#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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am dum
tryijng to make it an analogy that i can understand lol
Fills over the cup.
U have talent actual level/book level
Lets say default its 100 book level
U 100/100 it with talent points
Rift slug makes it 125/100
in that sense it just increases the end value and that's all
ah got it
ah nice
yeah i really want that now lmao
Life's gonna be easy when you get that
oh for sure
it will be absolutely amazing
im hoping it get it within W3
ill be pissed if i get doot before it
Its all rng
yeahv :(
Its kinda insane how good slug is early game, you put 1 point in talent and get extra 24
You mean 100?
I mean when you put 1 point in the talent, it jumps to 25, so free 24 points in skill ealry, when you max it, ofc it goes to 125
Thats pretty misleading with how you phrased it
So I’ve been in w3 for a while now, but just finished the main quest line for cowboy jones, and unlocked the final quest for the w2 trophy. However, I noticed that the recipes didnt show up in the anvil. I’ve forfeited the quest and taken it again with no luck. Any help?
The only thing I could think of was that I unlocked this quest on my second character, and not my first, but i don’t think it should matter.
tbh, idk why you even want the w2 trophy
not worth the grind rn
just focus on pushing worlds
no, unessesary bs
I think you need the recipe
But the recipe for its components should have shown up with the final cowboy jones quest. In blunderhills scripticus has his components for the w1 trophy that show up in anvil tier 1. I can see in anvil 2 that there are spaces dedicated to the w2 trophy components, and cowboy jones’ quest is asking for them, but he didn’t unlock them for me.
have you relogged?
still early w3 progression
What I do with this cookie?
farm crystals (might be a little early)
Never too early unless u get oneshot :)
what do crystals drop thats so good?
Gfood and statues
Statues gfood obols pens.
https://i.imgur.com/m6v7jAF.png Is this worth equipping on all chars? Or when do you use this
I have never used it.
never
👍
What's better overall, Bubo or ES?
both are needed in their jobs
BUT overall who's better for leveling, exp, portals etc
How'd u get the hat and ring?
Fishing for hat don't know about ring
i think its from chocie or something
depends on map, ur talents and many things but in general u will rather spend much more time on active bubo than es
bcause alchemy
Alr thx
im early w4 and i have 3m minimum dmg on es
Wait isn't Bubo only good if your over leveled for the map due to the one kill reduces cool down talent
Wait only early W4?
I meant w5... Right?
Bro I'm only just hitting 1m damage now
yea, also map needs more mobe so es is better for pushing esp early
Alr
for pushing earyl es/dk
i have played a LOT of roo and owl tho
active
Same here
And u have the timeless thing so that's prob why
hmmm
I've been playing since 2020
I'm only at 270k max DMG on wizard 😭
Like how the hell
I afk
well yeah the timeless gives 20 wp
I'm never getting out of here, am I? Wave 50 and the two bosses' combined hp doesn't seem to budge from 50k.
Alot
Do I just have to kill the run here 
but i still have 2,7 without it
what are u doing in w4 still 
idk the meta numbers but seems like u can kill boss with like 4 skills ig
yea i just did w4 colo and it was actually pretty easy
idk what happened but over the last couple of days my ES dmg has just spiked insanely high
but timeless wings and riftslug is definitely helping
Hunters eye ability uses hunters stats (trapping efficiency) for other characters traps or theirs at the moment they put the trap?
The character you're using so ye preferably the Vman or hunter
Okay thats gonna change the way I do it, thanks
np
Pretty rude to tease w4 kids like this
to be fair it has a little use: there's a star sign that requires to mega crit, if you don't have the chance necessary do to so this thing can help
other than that it's useless
star talent
well yes, but u also need more than 100% crit chance
is the 4th map the one with shaman?
same lol
it should be baby trolls, unless for some reason he starts counting from the end
He wouldn't be 'that' weird
hes placed all the other class upgrade npcs within the first few maps so i would assume from town
MASTER CLASSES
It would make sense to have it on THAT map..
I'm ready for the dopamine once the update drops
how come i havent gotten the TP pete and krunk tokens, but i have done all the quests
u have to complete all tp pete's quest then talk to him after reaching level 60 (the token drops on the ground)
oh ok i havent talked to him
same thing with krunk but u need mining level 20
alright thanks
How fast can I reach w6 by doing this if I recently got to w4? Highest level character is a beast master lv 115, everyone else is around level 85
i dont think bm is the best to push with tbh
Do you guys have any good resources on refinery leveling/ratios?
check pin
It's been pretty good so far for me, but who else would you recommend?
There's also this but supposedly it's a little wrong? but still clsoe enough
bm isn't good, but hunter compared to the other subclasses is the best for pushing
Cheers!
yea hunter was good for pushing w3 cause of respawn, but when u get elite classes i would recommend es or dk
So Hunter was good but BM is not?
Ohh I see
I prefer DK for pushng and I though that was most people's pref... ?
and before elite, other classes don't have any respawn mechanic
yea i know most people like that, i like ES
ehh I guess it depends on worlds. but I usually just used squire into dk into ES and then bubo
when is the update meant to drop? this thursday... or today?
ES starts with more damage, then (from what I see) their damage becomes almost the same
Brings me back to my earlier question tho, if I were to start pushing to w6 with es/dk now and with everyone else in lab, how much time would it take to get there?
eS is really nice if you can keep their surviveability up
probably Thursday since lava said with the next few days
Where are you now
OH i see you just got to w4. Not happening within 'a few days'
Early w4, BM is furthest at wurms map, everyone else around lv 85 and not currently pushing
I also am only new to w4 and it will take probably a week minimum to get to w5. then another week or two to w6
can u ss ur stats on bm
no, even if u reach W6 which is going to require you a lot of candies you won't be able to push W6
But I could still push to the first map of w6?
MAYBE in like 3 weeks
yea thats the thing, if u can keep ES alive its good, but DK has better survivability
one sec
u will only reach w5 with that and u need a bit more stats
not at the moment I'm using hp food and some golden food
use speed pots
They increase damage?
afk kills
siegebreaker gets damage from speed (SPEEDNA)
ohh
what golden food are u using
use kebabs only
sometimes they increase afk kills for any class, depends on speed and map
those r only good one till w4
both damage ones and switching on and off the drop rate ones depending on when I'm pushing or not
base damage not good?
nope
dmg potion is better if u want base dmg
it gives too low base dmg
understood
HOLY FUCK
.... bro comes in swearing about something we've already posted and been talking about
mb for language IM EXCITED
idk why i havent startet pushing w4 yet
Besides defense, should I focus more on accuracy or damage for pushing w4-5?
yes.
I see 😅
accuracy tho i guess, if u have to choose. No acc = no dmg.
That makes sense
yea i dont really know how much acc u need to 100% every mob
you actually havent started pushing w4 yet...?
no XD, im only at the soda cans things
U just afked the past 2 years of ur life in w3?
you can literally get to w4 in like 4 hrs.
basically, i stopped playing in late w2 and had like 300 days of xp to claim
no like im w4 but not started pushing to w5 yet
thank you all for all the help btw
This is the damage of someone NEW to w4..
Yours is the damage of someone who is w5
always push until w6 and then worry about things when you're there
I think the max accuracy you need in W4 is like 16k so you're way past that
oh.
what about lab jail
1 pusher can keep pushing doesn't need lab jail
lab jail while pushing
ok so @sturdy totem ur almost at 16k so just get dmg and dps
One of them rushes, not everyone
you can almost get through w5 with that dmg
understood!
woooo lab jail
damn, then maybe i should start pushing instead of getting w1 trophy XDD
and itll only go up once you get artifacts from sailing and bonuses from gods/hole
its always better to push worlds
This game is simultaneously fun and frustrating to learn to optimize lol
i beat kruk with 30m dmg and once i got to w6 it shot my dmg up to 200m
best part for me
in a day or os
Ya the normal person wants to understand and optimize everything and continue.. but the way this game works that just isn't possible lol.
wait so u recommend I still push with my beast master instead of catching up a squire for DK?
i would push with dk
bm simply is not good for pushing until you get things that you dont have access to yet
It constantly annoys me how much stuff is unoptimized on my aaccount lol
my DK is like 30 levels behind BM lol that's why I'm wondering
levels dont mean anything
i would still say its probably stronger
you can push those levels with a lil bit of active on your highest map
or if you have a lot of spare candy and decent dmg you can just spam bb through w4
i did that and did active play on es in w5
u have enough accuracy for last mob just push
u dont need to care about def just use food easier if u have the automation arm upgrade which replenishes food
what do you consider decent damagge for W4?
u need 1m to get to w5
good to know
1m more than enough
its been a while yea 1m
it only has 80m hp
troll was so annoying
kruk more annoying
i have bad lag and it just failed me for things that i didnt do
when we lack damage
kruk was fine i just had to afk it for some time and let it be
u had enough dmg
but troll kept healing his stupid hp
30.2m with es
ask me i barely made it through xD
barely enough
i pushed and then just barely did it like i had 15m dmg i pushed to 24m or 34m dmg i forgot
prolly 34m 💀
this.
before i tried with 24m dmg was unable to do
then i pushed to this damage and was able to
no amorak? 
4 august i reached w6 im such a noob
i got w6 in november i think
im still bad lol even after 5 months in w6
i dont think youve played much tho
i didnt play 1 month i just dont focus too much
hole has helped people alot nowadays
i also did a ton of stuff in 2-3d which i never did in month xD
i dont follow but yea hole is relaly good
ye
not now
if you can do the level characters one then go for it but you most likely cant do any other dreams
its good to get easy skill levels tho
Ya equinox dreams become tough eventually. Not all of them are meant to be done in a day, or a week, even a month
gn guys
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next week be the update likely~
is there a point of getting crit chance higher than 200 percent? Ive got 295 percent and just wanted to know if i will get any more damage if i get it higher
Moving through world 4 right now just realizing you can quick deposit with anvil let alone on quick ref lmao
Also why speed potions
It affects kph
If you go above 100?
Yes
over 200% dont affect kph i think
I just boosted my kph by 300 but still makes me worried about food shortage
movement speed? it depends on the respawn time, that's why it's especially important when u sample on vman to use speed pots
Over like 200 or 300% doesn’t chance how it is visually but for afk reasons it scales with mob respawn so there’s no cap
oh ok
Sorry, had to do seomthing, push with ES, for surcivability issues, use w4 health potion and some food. I managed to go from w4 to w6 in 2.5 weeks totally afk, w4 took about 3 days since I easily hit multikill with ES damage
There is something I dont understand. I thought with the laboratory than Shrines put on a town world means every map of this world count for the Shrine bonus/afk.
But when I look at Idle ToolBox, I see that all my characters are affected, even if they are not in the same world.
Did I miss a bonus where the Shrines becomes usefull everywhere or did I misunderstood something?
If you have the first w5 sailing artifact, it gives the bonus of shrines to all characters, regardless of where it's placed or where the characters are
Oh god insane
Still need to be on the shrine map for exp or a map of the world if the shrines are placed in a town
When you talk about exp, you mean to exp the shrines level with afk gains right?
Not the bonus
Great thanks a lot!
hey all, question for the MSA device, if I click quick all, does that do all the towers I have available if I have enough charge?
uses all your charge on the selected tower
oh, that makes sense lol thank you
and automatically deposits it into ur storage
holy shi my luck went crazy today
I see, thank you! And is ES best pushed AFK or active?
active
I gues u figured out the answer to the question u deleted earlier
someone finally stopped neglecting breeding
So i seem to be at a standstill in W3, is it really that slow going here?
w3 shouldn't be too hard, whats ur issue?
just super slow progression
but why? lack of accuracy? lack of survivability? lack of damage?
Is equinox worth working towards in w4? I haven't unlocked the portal for it in w3 yet
stamps and alchemy
if you need accuracy work on shaquracy bubble and secondary stat
if your need survival do food
no, high kill count requirements?
w3 kill requirements are not high
Active is faster, although I pushed totally afk
"Hope you are in the 4th map of World 6 in a few days"
im doing 998 k/ph and i still need 18.5k more kills
Should I push to map 4?
That seems like you aren't hitting the killcap at all
If you don't have elites yet in w4 absolutely do it
thats about 1 day thats not too bad if youre at the end of it
this is my active build
get accuracy and afk gain up
lul, that accuracy
Accuracy bro
see here we go, you DO have an accuracy issue
ACCURACY
not sure how to improve at this point
Cards
owl, roo, cards, star signs, talent points, alchemy 
shaquracy and secondary stat
theres so much, in my eyes it's an achievement to lack accuracy these days :p
Roo's accuracy can carry you to w6
Do cards that give Base accuracy percent, or cards that give the substat accuracy for just quick instant accuracy
lets add dungeon flurbo shop, currently in rotation arcade, card set and even prayer if desperate to this list
pumped alchemy acc
Look at that
or wis through alchemy
Throw some cards on
what 8 cards should i be running for progression
@slim mantle whats the setup to do the equinox dream thing with wave 115
Also Is equinox worth working towards in w4? I haven't unlocked the portal for it in w3 yet
peapod looter gap refiller gap borger
Focus on accuracy cards first
does pet power matter
if u have killer brightside then sure shouldn't take too long and u can start working on the first few tasks/upgrades
and is it guaranteed victory or do i need to do it on bm for more entries
I mean higher is better
how can i sort cards for stats
Is equinox global buffs or is it a skill?
you should succeed first try
You just gotta click through them, doesn't take long
global buffs with also some skilling nodes in the map
go to idleon toolbox and use the cards tool
is this good
Wood mushroom, neyeptune and sandcastle for accuracy
Citringe for damage%
C. Amarok and Boops for afk% (situational)
you mention cards he hasn't gotten to yet
auto abilities?
Oh yeah.. it's fine.. right?
if i have an extra card slot or two should i be doing multikill?
alr lets run this
you aren't multikilling to begin with so it's useless
I think he could if he hits accuracy threshold
Ah I thought it was 1m, misread that
As occido said, not hitting multikill so no point
You'll be through the portal tomorrow patience
Your choice
holy peapod makes the attacks scale so quickly
@slim mantle do the setups to beat the w6 territory battles use peapod or do i need some other pet
is there a way to see a timer for pet breedable multi timer for next level ?
I mean, now that u have peapod u can go with it for nice and quick fights, I only got it at the last battle sadly but it was like 2-3 min fight at 40k power
I always chose to die, feels safer to me
understandable
so anyway this is the team I used, it requires u to spam click enemy attacks
why click enemy attacks does the trash thing do that
ooh i have all of those i think i can beat the battle
trasher deletes the attack but it works kinda weirdly so u gotta spam click
i dont have the maps unlocked for the last two territory battles
ooh idk if i want to upgrade this or the golden nugget one tho
are you doing atleast 5 sec gaming, a decent bit? if the answer is no do dr first
ok
i got the pingus last rotation so it should be a lil quicker
i also somehow dont have the bobjoepickles for vial 2 yet
or well, atleast get 1 point into the nuggets so it can start counting, then all in dr :p
ive done 2 into nugget
can i use this mouse as the trasher instead of the steak thing
ofc
does pet power matter for any of them
more is always better but nah shouldn't matter too much
im only on second w6 battle so it shouldnt be too bad
what cards should I be using for cooking when using laddles?
doesn't matter
almost
MASTER CLASSES R COMING THIS UPDATE
whoever just disliked my message I’m talking about in game
yes
yea man, master classes are already in game
we already knew that beforehand anyway
I'm the master class😎
we just have confirmation of which map now
damn really?
I mean I just got home so…
well at least I’ve already passed the 4th map
that was a typo, it's 40th map 
can we keep the update theories in gen or endgame chat 
So I have a question regarding the DK's orb talent. Everyone says to not level it over 300 or to not put PO boxes into the magician box to lower the cooldown because you'll drop another orb, which resets the count, both when it drops and when the first orb disappears. I've noticed that the second orb doesn't drop until the first one is actually gone from the indicator on the top right of the screen, and the orb itself only lasts for a few more seconds before vanishing, making me lose about 40 total kills in exchange for the hundreds thanks to the extra 29 seconds of kills.
It seems like the issue is largely fixed. So should I just drop the rest of my post office boxes into the magician box to reduce my other cooldowns, like the statue?
iirc one of the patch notes changed how DK orb worked at over 315 orb talent lvl
since the fix i never noticed a orb getting replaced, got it on max lvl
long story short there is an optimal level for orb but the gains are very minor and you wont notice, once you can get the orb above lvl315 or 325 cant remember which, its actually a net gain to always max out the orb
And I'm at 372, so yeah, that's big gains then.
so you could do all this funky stuff to maximise it earlier, but dont bother the gains arent noticeable to anyone not hyper focused, and at some point the orb being maxed out is better
Time to drop some PO boxes then.
oh nvm 372 yea max that shit
Yeah, 292 max book level, plus symbols, equinox symbols, lots of loot! I was worried that the issue was still a thing, and that I would have to respec my talents every time I do minibosses and then farm stuff, but it seems like all is good.
wait ur max rn is at 379? thats quite advanced. i assume youre only missing like the pristine winner bonus then
Yeah...
That dumb charm is what stands between me and 299 talent library...
And it sucks because I am trying to max talents at this stage, because I don't know how long it will be until I get that charm.
If you have extra time you can use gwatches to speed it up more by doing more daily bosses, the weekly boss can give 11 trophies per run so it’s a good time to use gwatches
Yeah, I have a lot of gem shop purchases to make with those goodies...
However, I still end up spending over an hour just tapping the rematch button on bosses every single day... It's so slooooow....
it do be an hour long
And by the time I finish one cycle at the time I actually manage to have time to do it, the daily reset is too close to manage another round...
which adds up
I can't be on idleon 24/7, more like 6/7
Which, to be fair, is a decent span of time for anyone
lol
I just do boss farming while watching a sports game and just click every 20ish seconds
Yeah, I have a second device that I use when I have to handle this, but it still feels like a slog...
should i keep haveing my Vman do skilling while everyone trying to get lab lvl 75 or have him suffer with em untill they done?

I would personally only have him skilling if he us at risk of others catching up with him or something like that
Because it ends up being more spices
Endless your focusing something specific for jewels or chips then yes. this is best overall
Should be the same except you don’t need the burger boost on last one
Doesn’t matter but ocd will kick in and they will have to be the same.
I think so I could be wrong. but the panda looks way better so it’s just better.
hm ok
i need to wait one more hour to finish golric's last quest for bag of peanuts

3d printing
i need it for the 1 golden tool

😭

problem with the golden tool is that I need to get lvls for it

GUYS!!! dID YOu kNo thaT yOU cAn cLIck tHe RIboNn #💖future-content-blog
i cant set this damn trap
done it before i click left , right , shift nothing happens
ah derp
go buy tier 1 skull and traps and equip on all your char
still cant place the damn thing eventhough ive it equipped on my char
now it finally did it
how can you set a trap if there is no trap ;-;
maybe the trap was falling in love
probably to void
tho I'd would equip it because the node make liquid go slower
I used it overnight lol
next update maybe 11-15 caverns?
proly master and hole update at same time?
I can't believe Remi is further progressed than me in hole 
afk so much time tbh, i forget play this game
making liquids with bubo
no
i would like to continue this convo, but we need to go too endgame chat or gen chat
unfort, i don't care that much, so ima go back to watching youtube, bye
Why is that a surprise? There a whale lmao
They get several days worth of progression a day 🤣 and prolly have everything in gem shop etc
I forgot Remi was a whale
bad whale, not even lvl 15
gonna take me 16 days to get explorer to level 14, should probably work on engineer/measurer
I think IT thinks justice multi is working (which it isn't), it credits me too much speed but still by the time the update drops mine will be 15 or super close
14m? wtf
like I said, IT credits me too much, I believe I'm at 13.2m
bruhj
u have been slacking on monuments a lot, haven't u?
its showing less on IT for me
it did that to me aswell for a while but now its more
IT doesn't seem to include the arcade bonus
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this + assuming justice multi to work it seems like
update tomorrow 
a sunday update, that does come as a surprise
hope he doesn't release the update late tho, I will have to go off way earlier than usual and be gone for most of monday so I wanna get as much as possible done before that :p
Does SB's Pirate Flag ever reach a point of being permanently active? Similar to DK's Divine Intervention
praying justice multi and wishes get fixed tomorrow
would be nice
When does this happen?
The wiki's talent point calculator doesn't seem to mention anything to this effect. It simply says it lasts for 6 minutes with a cooldown of 8m10s
when duration is longer than cooldown, don't forget u got a PO box reducing cooldowns and iirc a talent aswell
Completely forgot about that talent 🤦♂️ thanks.
sunday update nice
Is there a limit to how many checkouts you can have at once?
nope, it just takes longer the more you have
i think i have over 200 on me
Oh, like cogs, alright
who wanna do king doot? its my first time im warrior
I should sit my characters on this for a lil bit?
getting a 7th char slot is also another option
as you should be able to do so easily in w4
then doing that
so your extra char levels in lab with everyone else, plus gives extra range
also you should have far higher range then that
spread them out more, the souped lab tubes are op for early lab
i did that but that didn't really help much at all, best is to try to push ur shaman to genies to get elites (bubo) and get killer brightside
i mean it did help a little bit in terms of getting levels and lab range
bean would upgrading the +% more power for skilling power bubble be more beneficial
or the +%effiency per stack of 10 x
ok ty
hey
me and my good friend have mage and warrior we need an archer can a good fella help us kill king doot for first time
Not sure how you even find him haha
the king doot?
Yeah
Well depends on what it asks
wdym
If it needs me to have a specific item, or skill
Ah no, I didn't get the recipe for it
Np, sry can't help then heh
i have recipe never done it
i could help but i don't rlly have the time
i crafted it if you need help
is there a guide anywhere for the ideal level to finish world 3 with?
im about to get my 7th character and am kinda curious what level i should be at the end of world 3 on average
like 75
to finish world 3? most things i saw on a cursory google search say thats what i should be like halfway through, im average level 79 currently
i was assuming like 85-90
thats true and i mostly agree, but im worried about accuracy or actually being able to kill
How do i upgrade chat rings
Blooming axe only contributes to the territories pets are in, and not to actual fights to unlock territories right?
levels dont mean anythinkg
i know that but im not completely sure how else to raise accuracy or gains from skills at a reasonable pace other than dumping into skills
There are premium upgrade stones
You buy them?
alchemy, roo/owl, stamps
Lots of things scale off class levels, not to mention family bonuses
star signs, cards
but they dont mean anything when determining game progression
im all in on all 3 of those but im maxxing out at 4.46k on my main
Yeah you can in gem shop
i doubt
i guess i could go for the star signs that boost acc but idk how ill hit the 6.6k to get 100% acc on the elite class guy map
oh nvm i thought i upgraded the accuracy bubble way more but it was a different one, ill dump bloaches into it for a bit and see if it helps my problem, ty for advice
yep gl
This worship is very good for pushing
oh man i completely forgot about this one, thanks for the reminder
i didnt think he had it
i had it written down to focus on it but my notes got reset for a dumb reason
man i just got scammed by the game, did the doot fight, got the cardiovascular talent book then i got the white screen and now i dont have the talent book 😭
i have just arrived on world 4, are there any gem things that are recommended to purchase?
also one last question, how important are quests? im doing as many as i can at the time but im curious how important they really are
uh not rly until youre going for slab and/or getting vman up
I did those who gave storage or inventory space as much as possible
thats what i thought, most seem to be useless entirely other than the occasional storage or exp balloons to hoard for my 7th char
oh also ive got amarok on all my characters, but is it worth remaking it on everyone to get the w3 upgrade stones?
if u cant get to w4 with the char ur pushing with then prob
once u get to w4 just upgrade to dementia
thats what i was intending, just saw a moderately downvoted reddit comment saying to do that and wanted to confirm, thank you
if u lack defense while pushing the plat helmet is pretty easy to make
i'm just under 500 levels away from 2100 lab, any tips to get more xp?
I cant seem to get anywhere close to the def I need to tank the world 4 mobs rn is there any major things I might be missing?
or amorak
food
just normal right?
oh that makes sense lol (im not I just like 100% percent survivalbility)
btw where do u get black lenses?
yea equip food and itll be 100%
enemy that drops regular lenses in world 3
should be one of the last ones
so the boss?
dont
not worth?
i think? idk maybe its just summoning
im not rly sure where i got my sigil speed from before
whats sailing?
w5 mechanic dw bout it
oh mk
yep
what will the new update be? any guesses? maybe it will do something with new companions
man I was so uncreative with my char names/:
our characters name was once something like "abcebdyags"
I got BuffStronkMan wanna take a guess on the class?
archer
if only nah its a warrior (I should have changed that around wasnt that creative)
Blood beserk
not yet btw where do u class change after w2?
bro those names are top tier compared to mine 💀
W4
thought so
why were ur first 2 chars wizards-
btw why does this agent lv150 keep yapping to me whenever I enter w4 as my mastero? is it the elite for mastero?
ttty
I pressed t once bro
idk dont ask why my character selection is worse than my name
I want too tho
whats wrong abt that tho
u gotta balance it
nothing wrong w that as long as you have 2 of each class for your first 6
i have 6 diff sub classes, does the character slot differ them?
i have wiz, sha, squi, bow, barb, and hunter is it alright?
yes
honestly i would wait a bit if you can
how tf u even supposed to get thoese aint it like lvl 9999
cus lavas releasing master classes and we can let the end gamers figure out the best comp
yeah bc maybe master classes will be out
the 11th class onwards is lv 9999
ooh
well i can use the subclass swap in teh gem shop
isnt too late for me
nah the gem upgraders from shop are top tier bc nobody grinding cards for nightmare bosses (or the 3rd difficulty whatever)
some people do
is the food correct?
why should i have 2 STR potion for my mage or archer or is this just for warriors
yeah its fine to use those but if you struggle you can use more hp pot and heal food
the one heal food and full speed pot is just to reach speed cap to increase your kph usually
green pot are speed pot
and its any class
oh im dumb yellow are str
is this fine and should i go full food? the average speed potion only increased 1k/h
equip speed potions if you dont need food for suviv
well use speed pot unless you're survivability fall under 100%
how to increase my survivability (uhh defense) alot
my amarok set with w3 stones only provide around 400 def
is dk better at pushing portals when active rather than afk?
yes DK and ES are active pusher, WAY better than afk
if you want to afk push use BB
hemo?
hemogoblin
ive never actually had my game run for active without me playing at it so ill give it a shot thanks.
!gear
also unless you have auto loot your game will lag af because or items on the ground if you active for a long time (like overnight while sleeping), or just put filter for main mob drop
I bought auto loot but have never actually active afked once lmao
but if you cant let your pc or whatever you're using on for a long time you can just afk push, no need to rush yourself
is auto loot needed for active afk? or you can just go on your computer every 59 minutes
welp auto loot starts to come real handy in w4 and later world as you active farm/push alot
but my dk doesnt have a lot of carry cap is there a way to just have the game void mats if i cant carry them?
well not really but like if you let your char active farm overnight item will despawn without auto loot (also lots of item on the ground can make game lag)
or like you said you could set a timer and some back once in a while to collect everything but that might fuck your sleeping schedule
filter tab
first level hundo
nice
can you increase the item drop filter
by the end of w4 your dk would be around lvl 150-180 proly
dang
nope there's only 3 page and late/end game player gotta suffer with it
dang maybe in the new update things might change
mine's at 112 lvls around halfway through w4 atm
W filter 😎
tho I might start removing the pots and food and get myself bigger bags because when I farmed those shit filled my bags so quick
thats a lot of shit lol
anyway im gonna let my pc run for a bit now, i appreciate the help your a good dude
item that doesn't stack like bags or equipment are pure grief, rest like upgrade stone and food could be solved with higher cap but too lazy to do it
question real quick do you guys have a way of keeping your monitor on?
is there a setting for it somewhere
nvm figured it out
my dk has an issue with mana any solutions besides alchemy lol
Is there anyway to lucky lad farm on vman for equinox to get the luckier recipe?
Or is it just complete rng cuz at this point every other character except my vman has gotten multiple
Guys should i buy printing double or change my 7th class barb to squire
well do you have 2 barbs?
Youll get more gems eventually imo i would say to get double print, but im no professional
Best map for bubo ?
More mana = mana regen
Thank you 
Godshard if you have 100% eff, or dreadlo, or ore before that if still not 100%, tho I heard the log from w2 has around same chance for lucky lad
is it possible to spam daily resets if you use silver pocketwatches to move it into the future?
Also talent order is cc revive aura and fart
yeah i only have a bout 400 mana right now its not regenning fast enough for me to drop the statue that launches shockwaves which is a really good talent but im not quite sure how to get more mana tbh
Erm probably?
Well you could always max wisdom as it also gives you accuracy because secondary stat of warrior
it is maxed lol
Also use upgrade stone of w4 with a mage to get wisdom on the gear to give it to your warrior
Literally my 2nd 2 hour candy
Else there’s clicker (too has acc% owl all stat) cards, card set, star sign, food, prayer and sum else
🫡
Bro stacked
What stat affects journeyman accuracy
that took me 72 hours
I think there is guide for jman talent
Skill issue tbh
yap
Got a lucky lad today on vman tho idk if it count if it counts retroactively
Damn active farm really thebest tho
Ight
I though afk farmin are fast
doing slab sucks
Active way better with ES for mob drop and DK for rare bags (like statues and the other sht)
Yeah currently pushing w3 with es
He is w4 or w5 but pushing to chiz?
im not sure either
Eh no wiz XD

Damn not yet to say es XD
Yeah you’re not allowed yet 

On my second ES or SB I didn’t push w3 but got my daily key on them 
Random event tp to cryo snake
Shortcut 
What u want him on
Tv
Cola
Wurm
Brev
I just got him out of lab
He’s low on lvls
I have all elites
I’m pushing on Dk rn
Yeah my dk might be better afk because he doesn't have enough mana for moves during active
I forgot abt my guys for 1/3rd of a year so one is lvl 114 and one is lvl 70
Hmmm
Rounding the number 
Come back later when your char are stronger, like when they kill enemies faster
hi guys
i still havent done that quest
ok update in 11h nice guys
around 10-11PM for me
Hiyo
sup
I'm not exactly sure what fuel times refers to
Is definitely not the time it takes for the power to fill up cause that'd take much longer
what atoms are worth upgrading early on?
fuel is how long ur refinery can run ffor
Aah, with the materials I have? Okay
The divide that by each cycle time and that's how many times it can cycle with that amount of fuel 
How long is cycle time? Does it ever change
I know it shows up on top but it shows time remaining, so I'm never there to see it start
starts at 15 and you can get buffs to lower it
15 minutes
Alright, is what I was thinking it might be
the lab has the best easy access buff for refinery cycles
specifically
Oh, not at W4 yet
You'll get there
Yeah
Go back finishing your guide instead of talking
Can't need a forum in the other server
Also now that you’re in w3 you should print most ressources, like each class printing ressources for their corresponding skill and hunter prints monster mob for refinery for example
i cant get this jewel again this time 😦
last time i missed it too when it came months ago
Yeah, I ended up turning the wheel on green caps so don't need a character farming them at the moment, printing a teeny bit of bull horns cause orange salts not very high level
But with blue salts coming might need some changes but I hardly can produce any since I don't produce red salts for a while again if I wanna upgrade them, or maybe it's a good idea to take some out for crafting and other salts instead of full focus on red upgrade
its recommended to have the power per cycle of the refinery above, the 72 in this case, always be a higher number than the 98, my mistake here
this makes it so all of your cycles will be working
Yeah, tho for red salts you don't really know where to stop
as you can see in my case if you dont then the refinery will stop on the ones below
you never stop
guys, what pets should i use for grassland spices?
But then I won't get red salts for maybe a week 
And I need them for plenty crafts and upgrades in construction and stuff, and the salts after are halted too
i make 72 red per cycle, i need 98 per cycle to make brown, so im in a deficit, yuo want to avoid that
yeah just gotta let it build up cycles 😄 it only gets faster with time
check pins
Same I can farm the golden snowflake but these spices are annoying
yea only spices bottleneck at this point
all onyx soon
if i was oppositely making 98 and needing 72 i get a postive 26 every cycle which you aim for
just gotta let it build itself up
Bubo is farming while am at restaurant tho I think I’m gonna start farming onyx once again
So gotta give up on red salts until they upgrade again? Alright
always
Everyone exicted for the update..
I'm excited for arcade/gem refresh.
Never auto refine red and green when you get it, always let it to 100% for rank up
once you finally get here it gets quicker
just gotta get over those 3 month humps
I don't want golden ball upgrade in arcade to go away 
It's not maxxed
my refinery is better than most but not good
rank 22 i think caps out at 1 million needed to rank up so it always gets faster from there
Omniphau god helps alot with afk time counting to refinery sometimes
omniphau has been my best friend
my refinery is barely started xD
my arcade also is bad im unlucky 😦
i was just letting them all rank up whenever not thinking about deficits, so now im fixing it lol
Gold balls though :<
worth it once you do. eventually it can just perma run itself with constant uptime
I heard somewhere that lava said is probably a good idea to do 3 warriors, 3 archers, 3 mages & 1 Journeyman (Not sure if that's true they did say that)
So kinda wanna do that to make sure I'm never hardlocked out of anything the game might add
But the meta is pretty different from that I think?
Empty 
mine..
im excited to get to a point where i can semi ignore it
you get there about 2 weeks after keiths current stage
keiths gotta lvl up some refinery stuff a lot to get
i hard focused that stuff and ignored damage this whole time xD
best way is construction and shiny pets
shiny pets i didnt touch yet
get them to 6 asap
slacker 😛 this is 6 months of progress
Nuh uh
you been playing longer then me >.>
5 years 
a lot longer
no sigil is massive to miss out on
Get that number up
i cant wait to get my stamps and gold food done D: shinies need so much lvls looking at these numbers
I suspect some call me bob and carpenter would set you right
forgot about the sigil for cycle speed
call me bob does go hella far
this thing too expensive tho
Me when atom clicks
the first one you wanna use 90% dscounts and atom click when its there, make sure to work on your nslb for it
whens the last time you did a print ? vman can handle combs
i did print soon i did a vman speedrun got like 40 portals i think but forgot to sample gmush
you need like 190 woth a disabled lab node on a mage i think to atom it
i have 100k gmush spores rate atm
also my larry level low kinda
time for it to pop i was printing dementia
Why is this bubble not being clicked like rn
yeah you need a good printing run
Trueeee
do i use it on atom?
like do i atom larry bubble?
Use those clicks on good bubbles you need lots of lvls in
You seem to be able to Malle plenty of dementia so idk about Larry
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i have 4m smthn sample of dementia ore
4.5m
so its like 18m per h
Then buy cheaper bubbles
The first 2 are super cheap
So if you can’t afford better ones at least do those
ooh not enough gmush yet to atom and others i can i need some birch logs(print) to get that into atomable
how is this?
Larry better
mhmm
Focus on your atom production
roadkill is very good
does afk kills in rifts counts the other chars assigned?
Depends on the rift challenge
im at rift 15
What're the sampling setups with passive cards?
Base main stat, eff, afk gain
Chaotic troll, amarok, bunny, baby(maybe mama) troll, tremor worm, nightmare Chiz for all stat
There’s one other all stat too I think
skill afk gain, all stats and hp/mana and str/agi/wis depending on which skill you doing
Thankyou ^^
Going to redo all prints then leave my acc afk on rift a few days
Got the 5mill afk after 5mill after 5mill...
baby troll is sneaking exp 👀
also you could always look at Herus sampling setup https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YkCE1KdcXPoF3hxFUjC0EtEUTkpuBmYcAtGodkuNOJ4/edit?gid=1826222324#gid=1826222324
Huge!!
tho the card are mostly those we mentionned
Hello again can i ask for some advice? Just finished 750 hours on bravery and putting my characters in lab for a bit, how do i get lab efficiency apart from the ring and shoes? Im currently earning 200 xp an hour any way i can boost that?
Ive got 3 star jelly card and some from food
Cooking, bubo talents
this is lab specific
?insight
and proly all skill eff?
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