midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[zenith hare]

10k is at about 37

[near magnet]

(18, actually)

[zenith hare]

close enough

it's not an issue

[tranquil latch]

It is a literal issue ATM for them

They are to weak to proceed

[zenith hare]

you should be at ab 1k at ur stage. which bm talent will get you to, with a high roll

[floral crest]

You typically only active BM far later cuz of shinies or something else in it but just go use your skilling preset and level any breeding related talent at BM there

I'd just stick your BM at lab while you have BM's talents leveled for breeding

[near magnet]

i'm using my BM to push W4 tbh, they just pop back to the town whenever i want to go do breeding things. which is probably not fantastic, but i was previously pushing with my bubo, who is..... on lab duty now

[floral crest]

At what part do you have here rn?

[near magnet]

I've got four slots & have unlocked Wode and Crabcake, but that's my furthest pets in W1 and W2

[floral crest]

If you're gonna play Active (which you said you were looking for Active BM talent guide) then you probably should swap to DK/ES cuz Bm only shines mostly in afk

[near magnet]

Oh, no, you misunderstand -- I could only find an active BM talent guide

[floral crest]

Ah.

[near magnet]

https://puu.sh/KmzLm/7903806a7d.png my BM talents look like this, which I assume is Probably Not Very Good

[floral crest]

have you done splicing?

[near magnet]

a bit! haven't gotten the W2 splicer to drop yet but there's splicing happening in W1

[sleek stone]

Guys i need an advice, should i change my shaman with wiz and change the wiz to shaman since shaman have 118 lvl for wiz its 84?

With gems

[floral crest]

Oh alright well you'll probably need the nutto at some point and if you want to like slowly speed up your chances of getting new pets you should put the Breeding versions at fenceyard

[floral crest]

Do you have 2 shaman?

[sleek stone]

No

[floral crest]

do you have 2 wizard

[sleek stone]

I only have 2 barbarian

No

I have all class and 7th class barb

[maiden valley]

change ur barb to squire if anything

idk why you want to swap them just because of levels

[sleek stone]

Currently pushing w3

[floral crest]

oh ok well you can get 2 wizards, 2 squires, 1 barb, , 1 hunter and a maestro

[sleek stone]

To push?

Oh well i gotta change the barb later then

[near magnet]

they're sittin' in there cap'n
should I make it all wodes/cakes in the fenceyard since they're the ones I'm trying to get the next pet for?

[floral crest]

there's peple saying 2 siege breakers is bad now but you'd probably still be ok with it idk

[sleek stone]

Gotta go with meta

[floral crest]

yeah

[sleek stone]

Double es and dk

[maiden valley]

not really worth it just use wiz to push all the way

[sleek stone]

Ahh okay

[floral crest]

Ye that one's of the best choices I could probably never go wrong with

[sleek stone]

Do i need 3,6k acc to push?

W3

[floral crest]

yeah

[sleek stone]

Damn what should i focus on to increase it?

[floral crest]

actually no nvm that's the last mob next to chizoar

[sleek stone]

With dmg also

Ahh okay

[floral crest]

You should have 3.375 accuracy for chizoar though

[maiden valley]

owl/roo and dungeon gives good acc early on

[sleek stone]

How about dmg for wiz?

[floral crest]

Early on owl, roo and probably their substat with alchemy (roid ragin, swift stepping and stable jenius)

also some cards increase accuracy like sandcastles and the wood mushroom, neyeptune(last mob next to chizoar boss room) or substat cards still

[sleek stone]

Yeah i have maxed sand castle

[floral crest]

You could probably get this too gl tho

[sleek stone]

Damn how?

[floral crest]

wakawaka war wave 31

[sleek stone]

W2?

[lyric basalt]

Yep

[floral crest]

yeah

[sleek stone]

Ahh okay thank you guys

[river vine]

This seems like a dumb question but if my orb has enough duration to have two down at once, both of them are canceled out until the first one disappears, right? Or does the second one take over while the first one is rendered useless?

[main dirge]

which one between the 2 below red is safe to rank up ?

[sleek pollen]

orange maybe

[tacit dock]

for the green tube talent for bubo does it mean on the board?

so id want him on the very end

[zenith hare]

yes

[tacit dock]

ah i see

[hasty bay]

When I allign to Infinite star? Is the bonus double or standard?

[tranquil latch]

Aligned bonuses are only doubled if you got the chip on

[gusty goblet]

Where the hell is this update

I’m sick and tired of waiting now

it’s been too long

[sleek pollen]

never

[gusty goblet]

might as well tell me that instead of not saying shi

[zenith hare]

itll likely be master classes with hole expansion

so be patient

[latent lintel]

why did my ladels disappear when I clicked on them?

just got into W4 yesterday and this is confusing I cant lie

[forest portal]

they give 1h of progress on cooking each

[latent lintel]

so... youre saying even though nothing was going it still used them

oh goodie

[dense egret]

What would be the best place to farm small life potions?

[rare rapids]

from what i can tell on the wiki it'd be either the tree (stick/nutto/wood mush) or sewer of W1 (Rat/Poop). besides the blunder hills shop stock

[placid pasture]

I would farm them alongside Woodular circles

[dense egret]

So sticks?

[sleek pollen]

wood mushroom so you can farm frisbee as well maybe

[dense egret]

Currently doing that but just wanted to know what would be more efficient for just the life potions

[sleek pollen]

woodmushroom has the lowest rare drop bag of small life pot

[dense egret]

So sticks if it's just for the life potions?

[sleek pollen]

tbh just farm whatever you want

like you could also farm all the mob bluicoq said so you can get a good stock of each mats (like gstack or for vial or sum other)

[dense egret]

I need the potions badly for food cap im pushing elite classes and they keep running out of food

The auto arm upgrade still needs a lot of time so that isn't a option

[sleek pollen]

wait you equip the small pot?

[forest portal]

then prob stick wood mushroom might be to hard

[rare rapids]

I'd rather use the crabcake card + mount eaterest constellation (and buy better pots from w4 shop)

than grind for smalls*

[dense egret]

No lol

[sleek pollen]

what you use them for then

[dense egret]

Doing that still running out of food

[dense egret]

The food cap(250)

It need the boost food that needs the life pots

[sleek pollen]

ohhh right yeah I was bugging bc I saw it was for a quest and the log boost food

[dense egret]

How are pots gonna give me survivability

[sleek pollen]

surely you can craft the dem food pouch somewhat easily no?

[sleek pollen]

he meant using those thing for the non consuming bonus so you run out of food less

[dense egret]

Not rlly the crabcake rare drop is too hard to get

[sleek pollen]

that food pouch I meant (dem because purple) the one you're thinking of is plat

[dense egret]

Oh this one

[sleek pollen]

the two boost food are kinda easily do get done and mob drop

[dense egret]

Letme check rq

[sleek pollen]

7500 hermit and butterfly, 1500 kebab, 3000 average strenght pot

in total for boost food

[dense egret]

The hermit crabs are gonna cause me trouble

[sleek pollen]

maybe you have those mats like skilling ressource but it may take you a few hour of prints to get them and even then they are 'easy'

[sleek pollen]

ahhh

[dense egret]

Fishing is very inefficient for me

And I've run out of colo tickets

[sleek pollen]

first thing first, save your tickets for later world or when you're gonna farm golden food in these colo when you have high DR (mid/late game)

[sleek pollen]

welp letme search for my big text I like to drop for that

[dense egret]

I needed the bloaches pretty badly

[sleek pollen]

basically you print resource with x2 print bonus from lab to upgrade skilling bubbles to redo prints to have better print to upgrade skilling bubbles more so you can redo your prints so you can upgrade your skilling bubbles etc etc

it takes time eventually to get 'good' prints but you'll get there

[sleek pollen]

try to book your barb's fishing talent and get them as high as possible and have the fishing accessories for bloach color depth and all other bonus for prints I guess

[dense egret]

Bro I just need the elite classes which can easily be gotten with like 250 carry cap there's no need to overcomplicate it

Should be enough to get me a bit atleast

[rare rapids]

Big red pots = bigger healing foods = less frequent food use

[dense egret]

That makes sense probably should have thought of that

[sleek pollen]

yeah but he wants the small one to craft a boost food to craft the golden food pouch

but yeah always use the latest food available to you

its always better tho pricy

[dense egret]

I'm using the w3 food lol the w4 is expensive

[rare rapids]

I survived off bread for a longer than I should have

[sleek pollen]

same x)

[dense egret]

After I get elite classes all my characters can go in lab and ill have a lot less to worry about

[sleek pollen]

well usually you want them already in lab when you get them to w4 while one char is pushing to w5 or for his elite

[dense egret]

Already got 1 to elite and the others are 1 or 2 maps away

[sleek pollen]

which one is it?

[dense egret]

Dk

[sleek pollen]

and the one who's one their way to get elites?

[dense egret]

All of them

[sleek pollen]

ah you're pushing all at same time

[dense egret]

Yeah my patience is not that good

[rare rapids]

only 5 mil more mob kills before I get my maestro's elite class! 🙂

[sleek pollen]

you're not gonna like w5 and w6 then

[dense egret]

Probably gonna go afk for a few years

[sleek pollen]

gmush or deathnote requirement?

[rare rapids]

deathnote, gmush went faster than i expected now maestro is helping out

[sleek pollen]

okay

[sleek pollen]

candy the shit out of it

[rare rapids]

one more active night then tmrw ill throw some candy at it

[forest portal]

nice

[cold wraith]

@sleek pollen

we finally hit 22

[dense egret]

Another one down

Just 4 more to go....

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/eKFWyDetRCB.gif

[dense egret]

Could someone send me a blood berserker skilling build

[dusty apex]

depends how much talent points you got, but talent 8, 9, 12, 13, 14, 15 are the ones you want to focus on for tab 4

[waxen aurora]

Hmm. i dont see any cooking guides in the pin and tips channel. does anyone have kitchen upgrade advice/guide?

[sleek pollen]

buy one kitchen upgrade from gem shop, get diamond chef bubble (18th yellow), there's some meal that increase meal cooking speed you'll want them eventually
but early on cooking is really slow

have all your kitchen, when you have mutliple, cook the same meal so it goes faster

[waxen aurora]

https://i.imgur.com/bfslcyJ.png oh man it looks like im way behind on this spice

[sleek pollen]

its not yours is it?

[waxen aurora]

it is. i didnt know how to upgrade kitchen tables so i kind of... forgot the whole mechanic

[sleek pollen]

holy sht then x)

mine is 34 but my slow spice prod, one day imma focus on spice speed production

[waxen aurora]

im nearing full godshard gear and my kitchen is still like this

https://i.imgur.com/7Fl0PgE.png

[sleek pollen]

lmao so you mean you didn't get the bonus of kitchen upgrades AND from cabbage meal?

[waxen aurora]

i didnt understand the fire mechanic with the berserker

[sleek pollen]

oof gotta get them meals then, I'm early w6 with up to potato

whats your cooking speed?

[sleek pollen]

yeah understandable I didn't as well at first

[waxen aurora]

https://i.imgur.com/EXZeaA2.png

when cooking speed/xp was the weekly voting winner, i dropped all 10 of my guys into the cooking afk

[sleek pollen]

hmm surely you can get them new meals then

[waxen aurora]

they only went up by 20-30 levels 😦

[sleek pollen]

haven't bothered with leveling their cooking skill yet too lazy

[maiden valley]

use div pearls/balloons for cooking levels

[waxen aurora]

ah. i read that the div pearls got overnerfed for that. does that still make them worth it?

[dusty apex]

white pearls were nerfed

div pearls are still good to go

[waxen aurora]

slam them on vman i assume?

[dusty apex]

if you have doot, or use the bird god, you will have enough to level everyone to 50 and have plenty left over

[waxen aurora]

ah

[dusty apex]

but otherwise no, vman doesnt need to be no1 in cooking

since cooking levels boost money gain though, DK is the best if you had to pick 1

[waxen aurora]

!!! thats a good idea

[lusty yoke]

what other skills can be leveled with div pearls btw?

[raven mist]

do talent points from killroy become more rare the more you get?

[half copper]

For apocalypse super chow, bonus cooking speed on all chars meaning active cooking at the kitchen? or just passive kitchen cooking in general

[sleek pollen]

passive cooking speed like kitchen speed I reckon

[ancient flame]

what is the best place for cranium cooking in world 4?

[dusty apex]

you shouldnt worry about talent points from killroy, they are rare and not worth the points spent into them. since the bubbles in alchemy can give you all the points you need

[sleek pollen]

I reckon some people would do cc at flombeige or cans

[ancient flame]

ty

[marble silo]

is it too early for me? i have like 5 characters on lab right now but not many bonuses yet

[reef oak]

These are my characters when I started pushing for elite. No lab. All shrines on map. 2 food for health. 1 health pot. 3 exp pot. Had to go check on them every 2 hrs to replinish those or they wont survive. Had to leave them overnight in another map. Took me 3 days but theyre now all elite

Like put everyone on the same map for shrine until elite then do lab after. It seems like it would take longer if you do lab

[marble silo]

so it's fine i see, thank you, also how many maps do i have to push for elite?

[sleek pollen]

elite is on 4th map

[marble silo]

i see , so by tommorow i should be there

[glacial wadi]

Anyone got any tips for beating wave 50 in arena pet battles?

[white lintel]

Use the guide sheet

[carmine bloom]

does the worship tower defence save/load system save the total points earned in that run or just the value of towers you currently have? (as in if i do a run and i bought/sold a bunch of towers, lowering my net value compared to a run where i don't, does it matter for the save/load system at all?)

[magic haven]

should i ever invest in making and grinding for other bosses armour except for amarok armour with latest stone?

or if i just stick with amarok and stones untill w6 what is best food farming source? shop? mob?

[night whale]

I buy food from the shop and use xp/speed bottles as they drop in the map im pushing

[sleek pollen]

the save option save the current wave you're at (or like every 10 idk), and the current amount of point you have
also once you reload a save you won't have much time to place all towers and upgrade them as high as possible to fend off the wave, or at least for the highest wave

[sleek pollen]

w1 to w3 you use amarok, w4 you can upgrade to dementia armor, w5 chizoar helmet + body and void on rest (these 2 chiz piece give bonus dmg while leg and feet dont), and w6 you try to get troll its upgraded armor
or just ball it and stay with amarok till w6 as some insane peeps will tell you

[magic haven]

that is just a summary of the !gear command lol but ty ig

[sleek pollen]

yeah x)

[mild hinge]

how do ppl ever reach wave 200+ at tower defense in their lifetime? I'm at 140 and it's taking forever already lol

[sleek pollen]

towers as high as possible (and beyond lvl 50 for atom collider bonus) with equinox dream

[mild hinge]

mhm yea, maybe I should go deeper on that equinox bonus

[magic haven]

construction help

i have 3 slot what should i do? 1 slot for shrines? 1 slot for buildings (eg.library)? 1 slot for towers?

[tranquil latch]

!review

[candid scarab]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[tranquil latch]

build what scoli says is s tier

@sullen hill these 2 cogs are the same for me, both lead to 1642 xp on a non warrior. not sure how else to check

[sullen hill]

That’s actually a good thing to see, can kind of see how your ratio plays out

[tranquil latch]

1618 is my highest lvl 😛 hope this helps your theory

[sullen hill]

30% base roughly 9% player exp

Yeah it does tbh thanks

[tranquil latch]

intersting im close to 10:1 ratio thats a lot

[magic haven]

should i rush to w4 and try to get elite classes

[tranquil latch]

what else you gonna do

[magic haven]

uhh

grind rare drops for equipments and not progressing through w3

oh and also at the deteriorated ram map in w3 is it just like the poop map in w1 and serve no purpose in getting the keys for the boss?

[sleek pollen]

you'll be able to grind rare and normal drops easier with elites

[tranquil latch]

only w4 and w5 can you grind keys

[sleek pollen]

ram, and mostly the zone after is motly there to get access to the equinox, secret zone where you must complete some challenge but not worth your time right now

if you're still w3 not worth, early to mid w4 maybe

[magic haven]

what are star signs

[woeful karma]

Is it wishful thinking of me to assume that as the efficiency of refinery goes down as rank goes up, the salt needed for refining isn't calculated as a material that efficiency takes into account?

[sleek pollen]

unless your name is zui and you can start equinox asap

[woeful karma]

Ello Yes that is i

[sleek pollen]

hello it is him!

[woeful karma]

And EQ is currently kicking my ass

I'm fighting the good fight tho

[sleek pollen]

eq?

[sleek pollen]

bonus (sometime little sometime big) you can buy from points that you get by completing constellation spread around the map

[woeful karma]

Equinox

[sleek pollen]

ohh right

well yeah equinox mob are a big jump for w3 peeps x)

[carmine bloom]

i get that, but isnt what i was asking. I'm asking how the game determines how many points you start with when you load. Is it the amount I earned (including bonus for activating next wave faster)? Is it the amount someone who reached that wave would have earned (minus the bonus)? Is it the value of towers pluis any points I have left over when I saved (regardless of how much money I wasted by selling/buying, which reduces total value)?

[woeful karma]

More simple question is
As rank increases material cost increases even more so
However you start to loose efficiency of material to new salt gain

For everything after red
Does the salts consumed for the refinery increase as the other materials
In terms of more for less

[woeful karma]

Blood bone?

[sleek pollen]

ram is mid w4 mob hp and dmg, bloodbone is end w4 mob hp with mid w4 dmg

[woeful karma]

Wait they are?

[woeful karma]

No wonder why my new player was struggling there and my skilling build players were struggling there

[magic haven]

wdym constellation spread around the map

is that w1,2,or 3?

[sleek pollen]

thats the 7th mob out of 13 for w4

[sleek pollen]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Constellation_Locations

in each map of each world there's usually one constellation

[magic haven]

also which is the best way to get the uhh emperor boss card? is it only the card packs when it lands on bosses and nightmares?

[sleek pollen]

like you said card pack, get lucky and hope the boss card lands on emperor

then to upgrade it to 4* even more luck (or 4* cardifier) and 5* is only cardifier for emperor (and cardifier is 💳)

[woeful karma]

The other month when the packs for W6 were on sale

For like 40% off

Or wait until it's out and grind it

[wind hamlet]

aaaAAAAAAAAAAA

[woeful karma]

Honestly imo the cardifier is the easy part
Especially when they are on sale for 20%-40% off
Or when they are even 99.9% off

[magic haven]

does this mean afk under the branch or afk fighting

[woeful karma]

The hard part is the rng of packs

[woeful karma]

Afk afk

[wind hamlet]

just the area

[woeful karma]

Fighting skilling ect

Like don't be on that player for at least 1 hour

[magic haven]

to see the constellations just stand there?

[woeful karma]

Be on a different player or don't have the game up

[sleek pollen]

I don't know extensively how it works but from what I know and seen it save the point you currently have (no bonus based on tower or other I reckon), tho you might wanna try and test with early TDs as I've hadn't tried it yet

[magic haven]

huh all my players are 50+ i have 6 players

[woeful karma]

Just don't oppen that player before it reaches whatever afk time requirement it needs

[sleek pollen]

yeah I guess, haven't seen one on sale that I can remember

[sleek pollen]

you need to click on it

[woeful karma]

Click on that one on each player

[woeful karma]

It was 1 sale
Up to 10 packs

Like 40 or 60% off

I bought like 4 or 6 with my stockpile

[sleek pollen]

also you can use time candy to complete these type of constellation task, tho its in one go, like if its says you need 10+ hours afk you cant do x2 4 hours + one 2 hours, you need 12+ time candy

[woeful karma]

I was either in W1 or early W2 then idr

[sleek pollen]

damn

[magic haven]

i clicked on it for 4 characters with lv60+ and it didnt light up

do i have to stand under it or something?

[sleek pollen]

if you click on it, it shows if your char has done the constellation and how many in total did it

[magic haven]

how?

is it a w4 thing to see it or something?

[magic haven]

oh a w5...

[sleek pollen]

ah maybe you need the star sign unlocked first?

[magic haven]

what is that?

[sleek pollen]

no its just this one I have is in w5

[cerulean vale]

is there better setup for this? because it might take a while xdd

[magic haven]

a w3 construction building?

[sleek pollen]

go finish the quest on top of the tree

[woeful karma]

One(5) of them is straight up impossible for me atm
2 is not possible until I boost seconds on killroy for a few weeks

4 I just need to get better mining eff and printer % (already at third of a mil/h copper prints)

Idk how 3 works but it seems to be increasing on its own somehow at a decent ish rate

1 is just going to take a bit of time
Under a week or so I'd assume
Sooner then the refinery one at least

[magic haven]

top of the tree of w1?

[sleek pollen]

this npc gives a quest

[woeful karma]

Oh right you need to unlock it first don't you

[sleek pollen]

and will ask you to finish the constellation then you unlock the star sign tab in quick ref and in general

[magic haven]

oh damn am i good for w3 boss?

!merit2

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into obols makes it possible for them to drop at all. Obols are rare items giving stat boosts when equipped.
2️⃣ Buy for all unlocked characters. Afk gains are very important and 2% per character is quite a lot when you start out with just 20%. Purchase more every time you get a new character.
3️⃣ Mob respawn increases your kills per hour making opening portals faster. If you are done with world 2 for now you can skip this in favor of purchases that help in all worlds.
4️⃣ When maxed you are likely to get a bit over 7 gems for every 10 kills on average regardless of boss or difficulty.
5️⃣ Obols are rare and more drop rate will help you fill out your obol pages faster.
6️⃣ More balls = More gems, arcade bonuses and other items.
7️⃣ Not much better than Amarok gear for a significantly higher price.
8️⃣ EXP Converter is not worth using.
⚔️ The two star talents boost card drops and mana regen. Put a point here as soon as you start farming the W2 minibosses. The other points increasing the drop rate are less important. Buy the Silver Antique and Capitalist Case from the forest shop daily for more chances instead until after arcade balls are maxed.

[woeful karma]

Perhaps?

[white lintel]

Get the 40 more cards

[magic haven]

hmm maybe ig

i think with my wizard i can take the chizoar down in a few min

[woeful karma]

Lol

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[woeful karma]

Wait
You only need 80 for ruby/dreadlo?

[white lintel]

No lol

[sleek pollen]

no its my amount of cards

[mild hinge]

no

[woeful karma]

Oh

[sleek pollen]

if you didn't unlock it from rift you can't see how much it ask first

[woeful karma]

Makes sense

God
Can't wait to unlock W4

it's going to be so fun

[white lintel]

How long are you staying in w3?

[woeful karma]

At least a year or so

[white lintel]

Okay

[woeful karma]

Probably longer then W2

At least my account is going to be stacked

[white lintel]

It’s got a lot more content than w2 so that makes sense

W4 not gonna be fun

[woeful karma]

Yeah
W2 had alch

[magic haven]

if i stand here and say nice view 1 star i get the secret achvment?

[woeful karma]

But w3 makes alchemy possible

[sleek pollen]

nope its in baba yaga map

[woeful karma]

Nope

Different tree different map

[magic haven]

ok

[woeful karma]

^

[sleek pollen]

do the telescope quest

[magic haven]

nice yes

[sleek pollen]

now you always go on a straight line, dont bother with star sign on the side

[magic haven]

where ma achevement help

[sleek pollen]

beside catching and finish

[white lintel]

Double check bc it’s case sensitive

[magic haven]

so dont align with the star signs on the side?

ok

[magic haven]

catching and fishing?

[sleek pollen]

tbh w1 side's star sign doesn't seem great to unlock when you first only have the first map, unless you buy the cheapest to unlock hydron asap

[magic haven]

can you align with many star signs?

[sleek pollen]

the 2 I equipped are catching eff and fishing eff, they are right after chopping eff

[sleek pollen]

answer is yes

[magic haven]

how and what are those yummy looking infinty signs next to them

[white lintel]

W4 thing

[sleek pollen]

you wanna rush to those asap

[magic haven]

ok

how to unlock the otehr tabs in constellation?

oh unlock more star signs im blind

[sleek pollen]

w4 mechanic from rift but even then the thing is far in rift I'd consider it w5 or w6 (tho got it at w6 becaus me slow) where its gives you like 3 infinite star sign, then you increase that with breeding and shiny in w4 (again something I'd consider w5 or w6 because slow af to level)

[indigo stratus]

[sleek pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/860068302227505172.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[formal brook]

if i wanna increase this speed now is just getting higher pets the only option or?

[magic haven]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-omori-omori-sunny-breakdown-tenor-gif-23602993

[wind hamlet]

no one

[magic haven]

is alive

[sleek pollen]

you could put badum above and below to increase foraging speed but I guess you just wanna increase speed in general without dooming your other territories

also from pin

[magic haven]

what are stiltmore tho for the weekly bosses

[formal brook]

yh

[sleek pollen]

w5 mob dont mind it

[formal brook]

so this isn't the fastest setup?

[sleek pollen]

weekly boss is hard without 10 char and a bit of progression in all skill as some requirement ask for late things in worlds

[sleek pollen]

well I think that one is spice production oriented (and I think by yo uwanting speed increase you'd want more spice?) and these type of setup are for spice I reckon

[formal brook]

oke i'll try that ty

[magic haven]

running with my archer and my rift slugs runs behind looks so funny

@sleek pollen ?

help...

[sleek pollen]

wassup

[magic haven]

whre should i advance next on my star board?

[summer notch]

can i js unlock equinox if I kill the bloodbornes from the w3 colloseum

[formal brook]

don't think so

[fallen ridge]

there aren't bloodbones in W3 colo, they are xylobone

[summer notch]

damn

[formal brook]

bc the colloseum ones are xylbone not blood bones

[summer notch]

understood

[formal brook]

i would first get that weird symbol thingy so you can equipe 2 star signs

after that unlock just as many as you can bc when you get infinity signs you will unlock them all one by one

[vital bay]

i just bought a pack and got pet gems, should i save them for something? or should i just use em to get pets?

[sleek pollen]

foward still until you get to equip 2 star sign
its that thingy

[formal brook]

technicly how more times you try to get a pet how higher the treat

[vital bay]

yea but the gems arent used for anything else right?

[formal brook]

how higher the treat how higher the chances on something rarer like king doot

pet gems only for pets yh

[vital bay]

yea okay

[fallen ridge]

there is a spreadsheet somewhere that tells how many gems cost each treat, watch if you can use the gems without leaving some of them

[vital bay]

imagine if the pet bonuses stacked XD

[formal brook]

friend of my got 6 rift slugs and no bloque or frog XD

[vital bay]

ive just used 2000 gems and only got 1 rift slug, the rest was just trash

[formal brook]

rip

[wind hamlet]

I still dont have frog

[vital bay]

how does the rift slug bonus work? is it like ES family bonus?

[formal brook]

when you put 1 point atleast in a talent you get 25 more

you also go 25 over the cap

[vital bay]

yea okay so just like the elite class talent and ES family bonus

[formal brook]

yh i think

it also stacks with it so

[vital bay]

yea well thats pretty good

[nova compass]

any one can tell me how i am going to be able to unlock the bamboo forrest spice cause i cant reach the 400k required and dont have a transmuter pet unlokced yet

[rain scroll]

hi guys

@sleek pollen is it over?

[robust marsh]

I think your in the wrong chat

[nova compass]

how exactly am i in the wrong chat? cooking is a world 4 skill

[robust marsh]

Wait you said spice

[sleek pollen]

yeah seems like it, everyone has calmed down

[robust marsh]

Ye that Is right chat

[sleek pollen]

also hi keith

[sleek pollen]

what setup are you using and can you show the pets you unlocked?

nvm just use full borger with axe as high as possible with forager and tsar above

[true marlin]

I used purple mushroom to force it until my foraging pets and blooming axe caught up

[dusty apex]

if by over you mean do as you like, then no

[harsh patrol]

Do these work if I have 2 chars of this class or I shall only upgrade it on one?

[sleek pollen]

only one I think

[nova compass]

gues i am going to try that\

[dusty apex]

only the highest one works

the other does nothing

[harsh patrol]

Aight so the second char should not level this, okay.

Thanks!

[sleek pollen]

you basically do not book or level these talents (this one or the sailing ones) one your second if your first has all maxed already, tho maybe for tome total talent level

[nova compass]

well that works now i have to wait 50 hours to get it XD

tnx

[vital bay]

does lab count as town skill?

[rain scroll]

no i mean chat normally like before like discussing game things but not too strictly worldwise and little how r u and progress sharing only

[sleek pollen]

idk it seems weird because from w4 and onward all skills and in town, maybe? maybe not

[vital bay]

yea i was just wondering cause i dont know what star signs to use while in lab

[true marlin]

I always thought it was the skill that shows in the bottom left when running around the town, so cooking in this case

[true marlin]

how many star signs you got/

unlocked

[robust marsh]

Skill afk gain one

[west ingot]

If I want to get full dementia set for a pusher should I pause my pushing and lab jail to farm materials for said dementia and glacial weapons?

[true marlin]

skill AFK, trapping if you have the drone unlocked and probably the town speed one

[true marlin]

yeah

[west ingot]

Alright thanks

I mean I don't really know how I'm gonna do it, I'll probably throw like 2 or 3 people on killing sheep's and snowflakes

[sleek pollen]

once you're in w4 you stop farming ressources yourself, especially skilling ones, you print

[true marlin]

are you only farming one set off armour and weapons

[west ingot]

I mean yeah I get that but prints aren't very great unless I should get several people printing same thing

[west ingot]

Yes eventually getting everyone a set obviously

[true marlin]

it might be easier to just candy it if youve got any spare

[sleek pollen]

basically you print resource with x2 print bonus from lab to upgrade skilling bubbles to redo prints to have better print to upgrade skilling bubbles more so you can redo your prints so you can upgrade your skilling bubbles etc etc

[hearty maple]

uh ????

[west ingot]

So focus alchemy skilling to a certain point and then dementia?

[hearty maple]

just visual sigh, I was scared

[west ingot]

But the thing I'm talking about currently isn't skilling items, they are mob drops so the prints are significantly lower

[hearty maple]

Rofl not better 🤔

[mild hinge]

just use active ES :x

[west ingot]

I mean alright

[true marlin]

ES is better for any drops on the first page, DK is better for any drops in the bags

[west ingot]

Wdym by first page?

[west ingot]

Gotcha

[true marlin]

If you click the bag it shows more drops a 2nd page if you will

[west ingot]

Yeah I see what you mean

Well I guess I'll get that going then.

[eternal apex]

does the V man talent that enhance skills work even if you switch to a secondary talent tab for them? i ask because i was still showing the tooltip of enhanced skills even tho on the speedrun / damage talent tab i have it at lv 0

[balmy gulch]

unlock the 8th slot

should it be vman?

[eternal apex]

i did my vman as the 8th

[vital bay]

is this based on the shockwave slash?

and is the statue shockwaves also based on that?

[random sonnet]

pretty sure it is

[marble spoke]

Guys what does ES and DK mean?

Should I know?

[random sonnet]

Elemental Sorc and Divine Knight, they are the elite classes for mage (wizard) and warrior (squire)

[marble spoke]

O makes sense

Thx

[mint rivet]

hello everyone

what update? I played before 2023 and did not see such update

[west ingot]

He's probably talking content wise, like a lot of content

[sleek pollen]

he's saying something like biggest update since 2 years

[west ingot]

Dadoums I got a quick question

[random sonnet]

could it be, a whole new world?

[sleek pollen]

tbh I'd beg to differ because hole was pretty big

[mint rivet]

since when has this update been cooking?

[sleek pollen]

new mechanics with master class, hole, sneaking upgrade maybe?

[sleek pollen]

wassup

[sleek pollen]

at least a few month

[west ingot]

So sometimes I alternate between mobile and pc and sometimes it doesn't sync up immediately and I'm worried one day I'm gonna get progress on one device then it rolls back

[hasty bay]

How does the Passive card work? Does that mean I dont need my mining card build anymore?

[random sonnet]

correct

[sleek pollen]

don't have to equip

[mint rivet]

what is it w7?

since we had w6 and hole

[hasty bay]

Isnt this OP?

[sleek pollen]

bit of everything maybe, like this roadmap was posted in november

[random sonnet]

@hearty kelp many things are OP, it's how you get big number

[sleek pollen]

very, it means you can equip other cards like skill afk gains, all stats, hp, str or mana depending on the skill you farming

[mint rivet]

prob all 3 master classes

[hasty bay]

Ohh, right, didnt think about it.

Cool, ty

[sleek pollen]

yeah happens alot when going from pc to mobile, even though you cloud save before closing the game on pc it can still cause some weird desync I reckon

[west ingot]

Well I definitely don't want that to happen especially after setting up prints lol

[random sonnet]

@hasty bay removing stamp level requirement in sneaking is also super handy, luckily it's one of the earlier upgrades you get from it

[sleek pollen]

thats basically why in late/end game cards setup there's only those type of cards

[sleek pollen]

oh right that was good also

[vital bay]

first time i bought auto-loot it happened

[hasty bay]

Wdym?

[sleek pollen]

yeah thats what I was thinking because like if he has been thinking/working on master class since before post we may have all master class and the other things he dropped on #💖future-content-blog

[random sonnet]

on the skills tab of stamps, if you have leveled them far enough they will say "stamp bonus restricted to x because of level", the sneaking upgrade removes that limitation. so your level 1 miner gets the full effect of the stamp for example

[mint rivet]

i think grimoire refers to a master class

[sleek pollen]

hmmm weird, well it happened for me once as well tho I don't remember what I did before to cause it if it was like you with auto loot or sum else

[vital bay]

yea i bought it on my phone and when i went to play on pc i just didnt have it, so that was like 5 bucks

[sleek pollen]

first could be bubo, second es proly, third is bb

[sleek pollen]

oh damn

[mint rivet]

bubo with 400 tent and master class will break the game fps wise

[random sonnet]

I lost damage on one of my characters that is doing rift (it was hitting multikill last night, now it isn't), i'd forgotten i'd taken the link to the lab first node out

[mint rivet]

prob ES too

[dusty apex]

can we keep the update theories in gen or endgame chat

[thorn mango]

Is there new skill charts the command ones are a little outdated?

[dusty apex]

herus sampling sheet seems to be what most use, and make it work from there

[thorn mango]

Okay

Where would that be?

[hearty kelp]

What?

[random sonnet]

Sorry, wrong person

[hearty kelp]

Haha

[dusty apex]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YkCE1KdcXPoF3hxFUjC0EtEUTkpuBmYcAtGodkuNOJ4/edit?usp=sharing
also in endgames pins

[thorn mango]

Ty zoro

[balmy gulch]

How long does it take yall to push through w4

[lyric forge]

ive been going about a week pushing with dk and i have 2 more portals to do, i did do almost all of that without having the bonus in the lab for double counting

[spice nest]

Hi i need to pass the lvl 115 in breeding arena but only with 4 pets, what is the best comp pls ? 🙂

[random sonnet]

i used some candy when i was doing w4, one of the cosmic ones hit 5 days

i just candied through the last 3 zones i think?

[indigo stratus]

Is this good damage for my level?

[random sonnet]

character level matters less than account progression, my DK is around 325 and has like 30m top number

[sleek pollen]

its alright I guess? my bubo have around the same dmg

[indigo stratus]

Without any p2w gear?

[shadow lark]

is there a way to see if nblb/the free bundle bubbles already dropped for the day

[random sonnet]

I have no p2w gear, only money buys for me are autoloot and beginner pack

[sleek pollen]

yeah

[zealous onyx]

its the same as your daily reset, so if your tasks reset, it has procced already

[shadow lark]

Alright, i just never see the bubbles above my characters head so i started doubting lmao

[sleek pollen]

yeah they pop right as reset happen

[zealous onyx]

just stop blinking

[shadow lark]

its probably always active afking when reset hits

[sleek pollen]

something like that (if you have sacred methods for stamps and meal)

[indigo stratus]

With idleonefficiency.com you can see which bubbles will be leveled on daily reset, along with meals and stamps.

[zealous onyx]

yeah, but it always proc at your daily reset. no need to worry

[shadow lark]

steam login user 😭

[sleek pollen]

rip

[shadow lark]

I need to use the spreadsheet like a neanderthal

[zealous onyx]

cant that sync?

[sleek pollen]

nope recent steam login cant

[shadow lark]

Nah lava hasnt implemented steam login for 3rd party tools

[zealous onyx]

oh dear

[candid scarab]

Login Methods

There are 4 different login methods that may be used for your IdleOn account.

- :envelope: - -

• If you started playing on Android, your account is likely created via a Google Account.
• Just because you play on Steam does not mean you have a Steam Sign-in, most people do not. Steam Sign-in was added <t:1731603600:D> and any accounts made before then are through a different login method.
  Note: At this time, you can use any login method on any platform except Steam Sign-in. That is exclusive to the Steam platform and will be added to others at an unknown later date.

[zealous onyx]

so browser users are safe. but damn thats hard

[indigo stratus]

🤔 can i log into steam with my google account and earn achievements still?

[sleek pollen]

yeah

[random sonnet]

you can use the steam client with any login method i believe

[sleek pollen]

I think?

[shadow lark]

yeah its just what your idleon account is bound to

[indigo stratus]

Sweet ^^

I took off the deathnote and portal prayer 😅 a little better i think

[sleek pollen]

ahh more fitting for a mid w6 then x)

[indigo stratus]

I'm working on chizor and starfire tools for everyone but dense water sucks 😕

[zealous onyx]

looks like you have to grind w3 for that

[random sonnet]

you can only get dense from the alchemy shop

[indigo stratus]

😔 gets stupidly expensive

[sleek pollen]

cc farm

[indigo stratus]

I'm putting off sampling as much as i can ngl..

[zealous onyx]

you need good alchemy for better sampling too

[shadow lark]

Whats a good point to stop w4 prog for a bit and unlock equinox, im currently at chocolates

[zealous onyx]

you shouldnt stop tho,

[random sonnet]

when you can multikill the rams, you probably won't be able to do many of the equinox challenges before w5 and the bar doesn't take that long to charge.

yeah, i would do it on a different character, keep the pusher progressing

[sleek pollen]

bloodbone is last mob to get to equinox, less dmg than choccie but 2.5x more hp so up to you, tho I'd unlock equinox in w5 while doing bit of backtracking

also to get to the equinox the first time you need to get an item dropped by bloodbones with 1/1000 chance

[shadow lark]

Alright ill keep pushing then

Lab chips are only active for the character theyre slotted into right?

Then ill need to put my pusher in the lab for a bit, i just pulled choc chip out of a gem purchase

[sleek pollen]

damn cant even wait till april for next one

[balmy gulch]

what styat does journey man use?

[random sonnet]

luck

[sleek pollen]

luck for dmg and luck for accuracy, so luck

[balmy gulch]

thx

[stiff vigil]

just reached world 4 and holy crap i am so underpowered

how do i even come close to the amount of defence and damage i need to proceed comfortably

[zealous onyx]

nice

go get better gear, dont forget alchemy

[stiff vigil]

what gear is recomended?

[zealous onyx]

idk the command it like !gear

[true marlin]

my shift doesnt work but i believe thats the command

[zealous onyx]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[shadow lark]

You can do with amarok gear upgraded with w4 stones

[stiff vigil]

oh word

[shadow lark]

just wanna get to the genie map and unlock your elite class

[stiff vigil]

would plat legs be better than amarok/ king doot pants?

if i was to upgrade it, i got a pair from the colloseum

[shadow lark]

wont make a lot of difference really

[true marlin]

doot pants is mainly for defence

depends on what youre struggling with more

[stiff vigil]

yeah mainly defence

[shadow lark]

you wont reach the defence for w4 anyways

get good food, maybe red pot so you dont get one tapped at half life

[true marlin]

if its survivability then food is probably the best

[shadow lark]

Its a hassle until you unlock elite class

[zealous onyx]

just make sure you wont be forgetting to improve your alchemy. and get gold defence food

[true marlin]

buy from the W4 shop, it has a lot of food stock that you can split between characters

[stiff vigil]

this is where im at rn

[zealous onyx]

that your main class now?

[stiff vigil]

yeah ive been using this one to push

[shadow lark]

get that thing to elite and then drop it in the lab and swap to your wizard

[zealous onyx]

others say that catchers and loggers are better to get pushing, but up to you. used mainly shaman for alchemy

[stiff vigil]

when you say drop in the lab you mean literally just leave it there? like dont touch it for a while or just to level up lab xp

[true marlin]

both tbh

[zealous onyx]

yes. welcome to w4, where most of the toons sit on lab getting experimented on

[shadow lark]

[stiff vigil]

lol ok

[true marlin]

leave a few in the lab to activate the nodes, like this one will literally half the kills you need to get to the next map

[fallow sand]

DK is your best pusher

[stiff vigil]

ok i'll leave them overnight because ill still be on for a lil bit tonight

[fallow sand]

Rest in lab

Don’t worry about characters getting left behind in levels

They can catch up super fast later

[stiff vigil]

later in w4 or past w4

[fallow sand]

Past w4

Once you hit w5 all your lab chats will go and sit in divinity instead of lab

[sleek pollen]

your char will level up faster in first zone of w5 than any zone of w4, same logic for w6

[fallow sand]

Until you unlock goat god then they go back to lab (goat god allows gaining divinity exp while in lab)

All the meanwhile your still pushing with your DK

[stiff vigil]

ah ok

only issue im going to have is my squire is kinda low

hes only level 51

so i can move some gear over but i think it may still not be enough for a little while

Also 2 other questions, is the platinum pick better than the poopy pick, and does anyone else randomly get a white screen that needs a restart to fix?

[zealous onyx]

yes to both questions

poopick speed bad

til u can max speed

[stiff vigil]

ok cool ,was debating making it all day while i was doing other stuff

[zenith hare]

the white screen is due to ur ram maxing out

[true hamlet]

1 boulder roller level makes all the difference when trying to outdamage wave 20 boss heals early on

[rain scroll]

hi guys

[true hamlet]

Hey!

[robust marsh]

Hello

[stiff vigil]

i have 64gb of ram and only idleon being run

[sleek pollen]

hiyo

[sleek pollen]

you're using your hunter to do TDs?

[true hamlet]

I just reached W6, I was wondering if I should spend a week trying to get VMan by mobilising all my toons or just let them keep soaking div xp

[true hamlet]

Had to use my wizard for that, hunter used up charge pushing 1st 3 TDs today

[sleek stone]

If 46% is 700 then its about 1.800 for active farm?

[true hamlet]

you mean like afk%?

[sleek stone]

Yea

[sleek pollen]

yeah vman pretty good for account boosting, either get your BB do all the 1m deathnote kill so he can also farm chows, or put like 4 char on different maps and you should be done in less than a week proly

[true hamlet]

well, not really, some skills are active only so active is almost always better?

[true hamlet]

Yeah, I mobilised my 9 toons and clear w1 deathnote in 2 days

[sleek pollen]

ahh okay, but as long as you use hunter for most of TD its fine then

[sleek stone]

Ahh okay

[true hamlet]

I guess losing out on 1 week of div isn't the end of the world

[robust marsh]

Hunter makes difference

[cold wraith]

i finally used my charge

[true hamlet]

You know what's better than hunter? BM

[robust marsh]

Sorry but whats bm

[sleek stone]

Damn you should use hunter on TD?

[sleek pollen]

beast master, hunter elites

[true hamlet]

Beastmaster can lock enemies in place so yeah use it for TD

[robust marsh]

Ahh , I haven't gotten it

[sleek pollen]

yes hunter as a root talent and kick (as archer) to slow down enemies

[sleek stone]

Ahh okay

Next time gonna do it with him

[sleek pollen]

did I tell you that as I crafted lucifarian skull I lost like 1-2k on all my char?

[sleek stone]

Should i add skull to him or?

[true hamlet]

I'm pretty much going to miss choco chip, I should probably go and produce other mats instead

[cold wraith]

why

[sleek pollen]

yes always have better skull on your char

[true hamlet]

Skulls and traps on everybody if that's what you mean

[sleek stone]

Ahh okay

Thanks

Other than that 2 its based on focus skill right?

[sleek pollen]

well I forgot to use the charge as my char were close to cap, and because I removed the skull and switch to craft on another I lost my charges

[true hamlet]

Trapping gets a lot better once you have the trapper drone..

[cold wraith]

i was going to upgrade skulls to dreadnaught but i saw the 10k nullo req 💀

[cold wraith]

yikes thats embarrassing

[sleek pollen]

yeah

[cold wraith]

free +5 gstack so im not complaining

now all i need to do is resample

which i really really dont want to do

[wispy jolt]

for the pearl rare drop grind is it better to use DK or ELEsorc

[sleek pollen]

wait next week ballot bonus

[cold wraith]

what is it\

[sleek pollen]

ES

[wispy jolt]

thanks

[true hamlet]

Well, I think I can get Anvil Tab 4 in a reasonable amount of time now since I have w20 frosty.. Initially intended to just burn all my tickets on W5 colo for frigid souls..

[sleek pollen]

dont mind my vote

[zealous onyx]

preposterous.

[cold wraith]

oh dang

[true hamlet]

I did that too.. I'm part of that group of early game rats trying to cut corners for w3 skills

[cold wraith]

i could only get these up

[sleek pollen]

you use ES to farm whats on the basic drop table like normal mob drop and rare drop, you want to use DK if its in the 'rare drop' bag

[robust marsh]

...

[sleek pollen]

I just clicked whatever the fuck I though would make it bc I knew nobody would go for fish but forgot late game peeps are all for golden food

[sleek pollen]

yeah the lower world the bonus is the less chance it has to be voted sometimes

[robust marsh]

I need fishing to get my Maestro

[cold wraith]

ok ill resample at the last day of that so that i get the most out of alchemy

[true hamlet]

True.. I guess beanstalk is affected by it..

[true hamlet]

I seriously slacked on Maestro the moment I hit w4.. I plan to use Equinox to get fishing level on Mman higher than DK so I can use the bonus xp bubble in alchemy to push my mining.. Did that make sense?

[zealous onyx]

its very dependent if there are better choices, but yeah thats where it goes most of the time

are you farming fishing levels on the seasalt island?

[robust marsh]

Ye but I am too focused on getting to w5

I was going to get Equinox but thought getting to w5 would be better

[true hamlet]

I'm in w6... I rushed there so quickly I have so many things to catch up on..

[robust marsh]

Me too

I have like no alchemy bubble at lvl 20

[zealous onyx]

you have so much time to catch up. but some grind are so tedious to do

[robust marsh]

Except shacuracy

[true hamlet]

ah ok

[robust marsh]

I am only 3 potals away from troll

[true hamlet]

I made it to w6 in 6 weeks.. Started working on my stamps today, also did a lazy 3d print sample

My Construction and Alchemy levels are criminally low

[robust marsh]

I have like 29 construction lvl on my all charectors

But tons of space with cogs

[true hamlet]

Speeds up a lot once you unlock the construction bubbles

[robust marsh]

Ye

[true hamlet]

around 40 on all chars now

[robust marsh]

That seems good

[true hamlet]

Nice!

I'm at 200 ish only

[robust marsh]

50

[sleek pollen]

finally... got it since one or two week already

[robust marsh]

I am like not fit for w5 right now

[cold wraith]

i had 86 books stacked

[sleek pollen]

[cold wraith]

or 68 i dont remember

[zealous onyx]

use the books, dont be like me

[cold wraith]

whatever i hope i can at least finish onyx statues before the golden food bonus is up next week

[true hamlet]

W5 isn't that bad, but if you're like me and your damage was just enough to hit kill cap, you'll probably have a problem trying to kill Kattlekruk

[robust marsh]

Hmmm I am struggling on those clams I do 2k kiils there and need 170k kills

[true hamlet]

Clamies?

[robust marsh]

Ye

[true hamlet]

What gear do you have?

[robust marsh]

This things

[robust marsh]

Demantia

Whatever it is called

[true hamlet]

weapon?

rings and pendant?

[robust marsh]

Wait a sec

I need accuracy so ye

Those rings are good for accuracy

[true hamlet]

Lol p2w.. well anyways.. you could probably try to drop the chizoar scarf and use that..

[robust marsh]

I ain't pay to win those were given free when I joined game

[true hamlet]

also, you're missing some tools, it's free stats so go get them, even if they are iron

[zealous onyx]

do fmj bubble

[true hamlet]

I see... well, are you close to void armor?

[smoky void]

what item does this unlock?

[sleek pollen]

accuracy sources : secondary stats, card, card set, food (butter), clicker (roo has acc%, owl has all stats), flurbo shop, star signs, prayer, may have missed some

[true hamlet]

genesis sphere

[sleek pollen]

dungeon item

[zealous onyx]

party dungeon item, but i forgot which

[smoky void]

oh

[true hamlet]

I think? I haven't done it

yeah it's genesis sphere

[sleek pollen]

this one

[robust marsh]

Ye kinda I sampled void ore and it's stacking but I am not even close to metrials

[sleek pollen]

if the big man said so its true then

[robust marsh]

They are equipped

[stiff vigil]

does the king doot pet give the bonuses if i haven't unlocked world 5?

[true hamlet]

Oh yeah, owl and roo are OP for early game progression..

[true hamlet]

You need Divinity Lvl 2

[sleek pollen]

shaqu level?

[true hamlet]

By early game, I meant the stage where you rush to w6

[robust marsh]

This is better

[stiff vigil]

damn at least i have him unlocked for when i do go through

[robust marsh]

Around 20

[sleek pollen]

get better tools then

[sleek pollen]

hm try leveling that bihh up a bit then

[robust marsh]

I am trying my best

[zealous onyx]

look at this proud doot haver. congrats. but yeah good stuf

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[stiff vigil]

lol its so weird i have everything unlocked except the slime pet

[true hamlet]

How are your prints... Late W4 should be pretty solid

[robust marsh]

I am low on meterials and it's printing

Those bloches are hard to get you know

[true hamlet]

just how low is low

[robust marsh]

100

Around that

[true hamlet]

did you use the right twine?

[robust marsh]

Twine?

[sleek pollen]

fishing accessories

[robust marsh]

Those on fishing rod?

[true hamlet]

yeah that..

[robust marsh]

I think I did

[zealous onyx]

stop that youll trigger alot of people

[sleek pollen]

yeah the line and bait

[true hamlet]

If you wanted to, fishing post office box, alch bubble, star signs, simple fishing gear and talents and go resample

[stiff vigil]

i mean if it makes anyone feel any better i just spent 2k of the pet coins and got like 10 beans

[robust marsh]

I am using this

[robust marsh]

Umm

[sleek pollen]

use whatever give bloach color depth (and fishing speed)

[true hamlet]

Doesn't hurt to resample every few days early on before you havea certain artifact

[robust marsh]

It's exactly what that is

[sleek pollen]

ha alright

[robust marsh]

I fish to left so I get even more

[cold wraith]

why do i feel like i just have horrendous luck during justice runs

[stiff vigil]

also im at world 4 and have not crafted a single trophy, should i do that

[robust marsh]

Like 8.7 % or something

[stiff vigil]

and if so which one

[robust marsh]

Me too

[zealous onyx]

i smell so much rushing

[sleek pollen]

dw same

[robust marsh]

I am just doing blunder hills

[sleek pollen]

got w1 trophy mid w5

[cold wraith]

i got 3 retirement chests from cases 11-13 while i had 0 coins and i lost to the reaper at 15

[sleek pollen]

lmao

[astral lava]

I got it while being in w3

[true hamlet]

I'm in w6 and I only have maestro and beginner trophy

[astral lava]

Farm kruk

[robust marsh]

I am almost w5 and still don't have trophy (am I rusher)

[fallen ridge]

farm palm or godshard

[true hamlet]

Wait, why am I salcking on blunder trophy.. the quests are probably easy now..

[robust marsh]

Ye

[true hamlet]

Just because I'm w6 doesn't mean I know how to play the game

[robust marsh]

They are but I ain't getting that stamp for pig token

[true hamlet]

Stamp?

[robust marsh]

Crystalline or something

[true hamlet]

ah that

1 more day...

[stiff vigil]

ngl i went afk for like 12 hours and got 3

[robust marsh]

?

[astral lava]

W6 with that dmg? Rip bud

[robust marsh]

You get that stamp afk?

[true hamlet]

I just entered, I've totally ignored pushing... I needed to dip my toes into those summoning gains

[stiff vigil]

ye

[robust marsh]

I thought it dropped form crystal mobs?

[fallen ridge]

just checked, they are easy; but at least 1-3 are timegated

[astral lava]

Wait nvm, that's alr if you are still new to w6

[true hamlet]

Yeah, that probably deterred me greatly before

[true hamlet]

I have a long checklist of everything to catch up on..

[stiff vigil]

they might have a higher drop rate but i just collected my akf gains and had them sitting there

[true hamlet]

Ahh, active afk

[fallen ridge]

depends on your picnic, stiltzcho and stamp guy

[robust marsh]

Hmmm I should get my bb to w1 for farming it

[true hamlet]

oh yeah, I forgot picnic exists.. he has a trophy too right?

[robust marsh]

[true hamlet]

let me just check which tokens I am missing

[fallen ridge]

yeah u need to complete its entire questline like 25 times

[sleek stone]

30 times

So 1 month

[true hamlet]

oh that was the reason I gave up on Blunder Hero..

[midnight stirrup]

How do I make my characters level up on construction?

I put them inside the cog grid but they don’t seem to be doing anything

[stiff vigil]

have them assigned in either of these and youll level them up

[true marlin]

they just gain passive exp while in the grid

[midnight stirrup]

Ah right I guess it takes a long time then as they’ve not gained a level in a day

[true marlin]

how much exp does it say your character is getting

[true hamlet]

[midnight stirrup]

111 per hour

[true hamlet]

111xp per hour?

[true marlin]

have you started constructing anything/

like the shrine or a tower

[midnight stirrup]

Yea ive filled the grid with cogs and built some shrines and towers

[true hamlet]

and your construction is still lvl 1?

[midnight stirrup]

My characters are all still level 10 contraction and 1 level 11

[true hamlet]

oh then what's the issue?

they'll just passively gain levels

[midnight stirrup]

I thought they all started at level 10 my bad

They just seem to have been level 10 forever

[true hamlet]

ah no worries, there's bubbles and vials to speed up construction if that's what you are looking for

[midnight stirrup]

Thanks I’ll go for that k think

[true hamlet]

Just unlocked them and I must say, I'm really zooming past the first few construction levels

[slim mantle]

ur xp % matters quite a bit in how fast it goes

[true marlin]

most if not all ways to gain construct exp, courtesy of the wiki

[midnight stirrup]

Thanks!

[slim mantle]

that bubble is quite an important one, when I started leveling that up my construction levels skyrocketed

[reef oak]

At what point is it recommended to start grinding this? At my progress this would take me about a month.

[true hamlet]

Yeah, sharper saws is nice when your DK is just chilling in the lab

[slim mantle]

personally I'd do it in early w6 aka when ur done pushing but technically can start fairly early w5 at decent ish rates

[true hamlet]

I just hit w6, albeit I rushed there exclusively.. I'd say once you can do it in a reasonable amount of time, you can start.. maybe if it takes an estimated 3-5 days yeah

Great thing about pushing w4 and 5 on my ES is that the stats are really good to start pushing higher multikill tiers, speeding up the process

[true hamlet]

Here's my current gear for reference

[slim mantle]

gear is quite the non factor honestly

[true hamlet]

I guess damage is the one that matters

really just had it there as a guage for the stage that I am at

[slim mantle]

yeah damage is a referencing point cuz of mk tiers

[reef oak]

Oh cool. Saw a screenshot of someone doing 300k/hr afk on mushrooms and was wondering if i should wait it out until later worlds or just do it now for BB.

[true hamlet]

Of course, don't start until you have Killer Brightside from Lab and Nobisect from Divinity

[true hamlet]

That's much later on for sure, I'd probably only hit 200k per hour on mushrooms

[slim mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/collar-pull-luke-newton-bridgerton-feeling-nervous-getting-anxious-gif-17050955019826657807

[true hamlet]

I mean, if your BB has nothing better to do, I guess you can start increasing the damage using zows

[sturdy totem]

Hey so at what point in the game does one actually start leaving their characters at lab/kitchen?

[slim mantle]

tbh theres always something to do that's better than early kill farming :p too many afk jails to be done

[true hamlet]

If you are just entering world 4, probably going to throw all in lab as they rotate to get elite classes

[sturdy totem]

I'm at a point where it feels like I'm really hampering my progress by putting them all in lab

[slim mantle]

lab the moment you enter w4, kitchen not until some time into w6

[true hamlet]

Yeah for sure.. but my eyes kind of hurt when looking at my BB damage.. (It's lower than the mman I neglected)

[slim mantle]

I schowed every map, I'm still disgusted when I look at my bb's damage

[true hamlet]

It gets better over time, honestly it's hard to gear up all your toons for pushing worlds so I'd recommend just having one push while the rest chill in lab. While the beginning bonuses are somewhat small, the ones that you can reach after 1-2 days start getting really good (2x printing NBLB and 3x refinery speed)

[true hamlet]

I just don't want it to be lower than my mman

[true hamlet]

The goal early on is to try and squeeze 1 character to w6 since w5 and w6 bonuses are huge, the rest can catch up later on. On top of that, with the bonuses you have unlocked in w5 and 6, you probably won't even need to craft expensive sets of gear for all of them, saving even more time

[slim mantle]

ye u only gear up everybody once u start pushing w6 which isn't any time soon upon entering

[true hamlet]

Also I know I should be doing Div Jail.. but sidetracked because I want quad jab..

[slim mantle]

so euhm, why active on the bm of all choices?

[fallen ridge]

my only guess is farming for spices for jewel

[slim mantle]

which doesn't work without vman which hes currently working towards? :p

[fallen ridge]

then I am dumb because I didn't read the whole discussion;
and there is no point in doing BM active

[true hamlet]

Just did TD, haven't swapped chars since

[slim mantle]

fair enough, I would swap now tho if ur done with td :p

[true hamlet]

Oh, I logged off

[slim mantle]

suppose that works too

[true hamlet]

[slim mantle]

tho if u were able to play actively, going on es at this point in time would be many times faster towards ur vman :p but does ur mman have the 12m gmush kills?

[true hamlet]

8m to go, 145k per hour so not long, probably can help to push or go back to skilling after that

[slim mantle]

when I did it ES knocked out several maps per hour for this

so ur ES alone can probably finish it in a couple of hours (I had upped my dmg a bit more with w6)

[topaz moat]

How do you trigger the Too Cute To Live achievement? I tried killing the sheepies within 20s countless times without it triggering

[slim mantle]

you made sure all were spawned and you did the counting the moment u entered the map?

[topaz moat]

yep

I tried multiple times, manually counting to 20s, it never came close to 20s

[slim mantle]

hmm, try cloudsaving and then trying again

some achievements can be tricky to trigger but that one shouldn't be one of them

[topaz moat]

what is this black magic

it just triggered

[slim mantle]

after cloudsaving or just pure waiting?

[topaz moat]

cloudsaving

[slim mantle]

cloudsaving tends to help whenever the game forgets its place :p

[topaz moat]

thanks man that achievement was haunting my dreams, im gonna cloudsave before doing any achievements from now on

[slim mantle]

I would say an achievement not triggering like this is on the rarer side of things

others such as x of item y in storage can just take a hot minute to notice

[coarse scarab]

Yo guys...im finishing w3 today with BB, i wanna change for w4 to either DK or ES, which one is better for afk?

[slim mantle]

both are active classes so they shine in active play, es may be better killrate afk (or easier to reach ur kill cap anyway) but also consume more food comparatively

[coarse scarab]

should i continue with BB then?...it's kinda boring with it

I mean..im looking for an optimal way due to limited time

[slim mantle]

afk is the 1 thing bb is good at but for w5 u would want to swap anyway

tbh just compare them when u get them for w4, bb damage is so bad and going for zows at ur stage is a waste of time so he might not even be all that good at afk in w4 xD

[coarse scarab]

well i have no idea what zows are xD. Eeh ill change at w4...just for the difference...who do you think is better at w5? ES or DK?

[slim mantle]

this

[slim mantle]

es, better early game damage scaling and lower damage requirement for the boss, also better at clearing the map and respawning if u do spend some time active. early game dk just has his survivability going for him so less if any food needed

[coarse scarab]

hmmm okay

thanks

[slim mantle]

but overall if ur mostly afk I don't think it matters much anyway as u have a lot of time to gain extra dmg

[zealous onyx]

whats the optimal setup for vman trapping exp?

it ok now, thanks

[floral crest]

I am now hourly clicking the first 3 bubbles.. What have I become

[worthy sail]

How long before diminishing returns when claiming afk gains? Trying to get some genes not sure how long i should afk before claiming

[floral crest]

2min

[worthy sail]

diminishing returns start right away? i thought after like an hour or so

[floral crest]

after an hour too

[worthy sail]

🤔

[tall harness]

wdym?

[floral crest]

Like he's getting less after some time

[worthy sail]

u gain less the longer u afk, not sure how long i can afk before i start seeing big waste

[tall harness]

never seen the thing ngl

[floral crest]

it's usally recommended to keep claiming them every 2 mins if you're gonna do it for more genes

[lyric basalt]

Anyone know how to get more flurbos, I get like 800 a week using happy hour, defeating the 3rd boss 😭

[worthy sail]

i see

[tall harness]

ah for splicer yea

[floral crest]

it's quicker that way and isnt that bad

[tall harness]

reading hard

[floral crest]

kill the 4th one and you'll get more

[lyric basalt]

I never have a good party though

[analog inlet]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[floral crest]

yeah it's a flip until you max out your stat boosts

these ones

You'll be able to solo dungeons once you get rank 40 for royale traits to get this

[lyric basalt]

Alr

[floral crest]

but if you're not rank 40 just team up with others every happy hour

[sturdy scaffold]

Is there a point in having more than 1 choco chip

[floral crest]

ye give it to others

I have one for DK, Vman and anyone who I am using that I'll push with for some levels

[sturdy scaffold]

But it only works on the one active character, no?

[floral crest]

ye but at least u wont have to swap again in lab

[sturdy scaffold]

Ah so it’s minor convenience I guess

[floral crest]

yeah

plus it's cheap later on

[floral crest]

Could be late

The IE one

[woeful karma]

iuts been 11 for the las tday or two on IT

i keep forgetting
does slug work like library books? like increase the size of the cup
or does it also increase the liquid in the cup whilst increasing the size

[floral crest]

ye

The first one* it increases what book you can get out of library

[tall harness]

it works like es family bonus not book increase

[slim mantle]

Rift slug is just a +25 levels for free, not displayed by the book level

[woeful karma]

i dont have an ES