midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[rain scroll]

u use all but the triple double ones only the last one count for them

[magic haven]

oh so it doesnt stack?

only many fractal feather stacks?

[rain scroll]

fractal feather increase boosts slowly

[faint willow]

x2 bonus megafeather gets replaced by x3 one, and that one gets replaced by the x4 megafeather

[rain scroll]

u will see once u do but its worth it all along

[magic haven]

ok i met the kangaroo for idk a few minutes what to do...

[uneven obsidian]

its free stats for not much work really

[faint willow]

last feather is x6 times bonus, and then after each mega reset, last feather gets upgraded by 0.5, so it goes x6/x6.5/x7... etc

[magic haven]

MF11?

[faint willow]

check #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ pinned, and try to not accidently reset

[deep wigeon]

Mega Fish 11

[magic haven]

what is norm reset what is mega reset?

[magic haven]

mega fish? what that

[faint willow]

same as megafeather but for that one

[deep wigeon]

mega reset give mega fish, permanent boost to it, normal reset just bad when it comes to fishing

[magic haven]

is the norm reset the

also the guide was 1 norm reset and then just do mega resets

and what are points?

they said reseting needs like 25 points thresholded

tar pit whats that too 😭

[faint willow]

🔴Soft Reset
🟢Hard Reset
🟡 Investment
Most important of all, you want investment as high as possible, since that will give you points between resets for upgrades.
The guide says to soft reset once i think, but then you never really need to soft reset again since its easy to get to the hard resets

[magic haven]

yea the guide says get 25 point then norm reset (soft)

[faint willow]

Soft resets never resets its level, so its gets more expénsive each time, so you are better off saving them for way later when you are struggling to get to Hard resets

[magic haven]

Shiny Fish: Breakpoints
These are the % you want to roll for shiny.
There's 6 tiers of shiny fish T1 = yellow, T6 = blue.
If you don't own all 6 tiers yet, you want to roll on low % (spam 100%'s)
If you own all 6 tiers, still better to do them actively on the low side like 100%, 400% or 900%.

Amount of shiny Fish = % Shiny Fish Button
2-3 = 100%
3-4 = 400%
4-5 = 900%
5-6 = 1600%
6-7 = 2500%
7 cap = 3100%
(what are amount of shiny fish help me)

i dont understand the guide at all...

[faint willow]

its for the amounbt of fish you pull here

[pine fiber]

is there a quest I missed since I cant place blobfish traps @ my trapper drone?

[faint willow]

youll notice you only get a few of these

[rain scroll]

few resets later with no upgrade thats when we need the fast upgrade thingy

[magic haven]

what do they mean shiny fish button (i catched like uhh 3 shiney fish i think)

what are bluefin fishes are they like the fish catched per 30 secs or the cd of the yellow bar

[faint willow]

the thing that says tap here is the shiny fish button

and next to it you shiny collection

bluefish is just the normal currency

[magic haven]

so the shiny fish buffs your fish per min?

[uneven obsidian]

yup

[faint willow]

exactly

its just multiplier for normal fish

[rain scroll]

get ready to see the change

[magic haven]

so the... shiny lure increases the cd of the yellow bar?

[rain scroll]

;-;

[uneven obsidian]

speed up the yellow bar fill rate

[faint willow]

i was about to say *pulls only yellow *

[rain scroll]

ok great

rate go brr

[faint willow]

anticlimatic but nice

[uneven obsidian]

decent pull i guess

[magic haven]

the guy with the name hdhhdhdhdh is my average naming system

this w3-4 question is now just poppy and orion's question

[faint willow]

w1-2 questions is usually filled with w3-w6 questions anyway

[uneven obsidian]

lava just made poppy more confusing thats all lol

[magic haven]

true poppy is like way more confusing than orion

they need an extra channel to talk about it

[faint willow]

lava wont let me spend money (efficiently)

[magic haven]

Bro even i bet the orion and poppy buffs can even be a standalone game

are there only minigames for w2 and w1?

[dusk roost]

yes

unfortunately

[rain scroll]

decent

[magic haven]

aw

[rain scroll]

fortunately

[dusk roost]

nah I like those

idk why people hate on them that much

[rain scroll]

u wont when u get a bit higher in worlds got alot of stuff to doo

[magic haven]

he needs one for every world

[dusk roost]

ik I'm world 6 xD

[magic haven]

yeah but just make it small minigames not whole brainstorm standalone games with difficult ratio...

[magic haven]

well but idk if someone is at the last world and done every single thing having more games like poppy or orion could be good

what is this passage tho?

[uneven obsidian]

they just get annoying since you gotta go back to the location every time to work on them and initially it make so you cant farm anything else

[rain scroll]

if they had quick access menu then maybe they were good passtime lol

[uneven obsidian]

they also both won the most hated feature when lava made a poll about stuff he had done recently in the #game-polls📊 channel

[magic haven]

true bc if u dont wanna waste tp it gonna take forever to go there

[magic haven]

well ppl hate them but i think it gives pretty decent buffs

[faint willow]

i got tired of carefully using tps/town tps

[slim mantle]

rich boi

[uneven obsidian]

the buffs are nice but the result of that poll is probably why we havent seen more of them pop up since

[rain scroll]

hmm

[magic haven]

i was also carefully using it but idk how i got only 30 tp left and then it suddenly go up to 90 so now im using it like mr beast

maybe every week or month or new character or idk

[faint willow]

you get more each daily reset

[magic haven]

i wonder if ppl like them more we could get way more buffs

[uneven obsidian]

probably might like them more if we dont have to pause our normal farming to deal with them until we can safely just deal with it once per day

[magic haven]

does poppy and orion run offline?

[faint willow]

yes

[uneven obsidian]

they do yeah

[faint willow]

owl at some point you only need to check every some days/weeks

[rain scroll]

gtg get a carrot launcher

[slim mantle]

[uneven obsidian]

im at that point for owl

[magic haven]

if Lava rule 1 (or 2) is active we're all dead (the rule is speak in corresponding channels)

[faint willow]

man i wish i could use a toolbox

[slim mantle]

they're questions being asked and answered, don't worry

[faint willow]

i need to manually check because im lazy to do the math and write down when will i be able

[faint willow]

like 75% of the server would probably be banned

[magic haven]

oh so i can ask what does kill 0/5 green mushroom means in a w6 server 💀 well i dont think the mods will use that rule anymore

[slim mantle]

more

[rain scroll]

ok got 3 carrot launchers

[magic haven]

like all of the question servers are now just... gen chat for w3-w4 etc.

[faint willow]

as long as question are being answered it should be fine

[rain scroll]

!

[magic haven]

wait u cant use auto clickers? Lava...

[magic haven]

how to get golden peanuts?

[rain scroll]

recipe

[magic haven]

i have all 3 but not the golden peanut

[rain scroll]

jman quest?

[magic haven]

oh bruh ;-;

[uneven obsidian]

picnic stoaway will give it to you when you do is quests for the first time

[magic haven]

wait how much should by secret char be? 10th? 7th? 9th?

[faint willow]

7th i think

[magic haven]

i think that was peanut

[slim mantle]

different opinions, mine is 10th

[uneven obsidian]

mine is 7th, but account is 3yrs old so

[faint willow]

at least never before 7th, i got him 7th but couldnt really do much with it yet

and i already have 8 chars

[magic haven]

im going mine with 10th bc idk someone said that

[slim mantle]

I meant my opinion is 10th :p my own vman ended up being 9th

[rain scroll]

mine is also 7th account almost 8 months old or so maybe

do i throw these or use?

[magic haven]

also i heard that some quest need the 7th chars to kill the cattecruk for w5 merit idk so its better to leave the secret later

[uneven obsidian]

well game meta changed a lot since i first started too, 7th was fine back then. now 10th as merit since you rush so much and jman need all the help it can get initially

[magic haven]

im the worst at this game bc it took me way to fk long to get through a world

[slim mantle]

also cuz he is just useless early on anyway and ppl waste a ton of time getting skilling levels by getting him early, time which could be spend doing lab/div instead and just speedrun the levels once in w6 with more bonusses

[uneven obsidian]

kruk task require you to kill him with all character on nightmare dificulty

[slim mantle]

that's a later merit task tho

[faint willow]

missing roo and owl was a big problem, but, its understandable, game has so much content, its easy to miss some things

[uneven obsidian]

oh yea... kinda forgot the earlier version since i was strong enough for those for it to not matter when he released :3

[magic haven]

wait also ppl say the secret class gain lvl hard so u cant unlock characters quickly

[faint willow]

i got tunnel vissioned on getting 6 food slots, caused me to sleep on printer merits

[uneven obsidian]

it does ok, but its not a primary fighting class so it can be a bit slower at first

[rain scroll]

some quests are troublesome

[slim mantle]

it's a terrible fighter indeed

[faint willow]

secret class has fewer attacks and fewers skills that scale damage, thats its main problem

[uneven obsidian]

like i got lucky and manage to get good lvl on my mman cuz i gamba and got choco chip early, making it get lots of exp fighting w4 crystals

[magic haven]

Well if the idleon game is all of the sand on the beach i only know like a grain of sand

wait what is the pyramid quest on the moon moon

is it important?

[rain scroll]

i want top left doubler

but when i gamba i got 2 top right 1 was fine but 2 ;-;

[magic haven]

is walupiggy quest important?

[rain scroll]

all piggy quest good to do once

[uneven obsidian]

it end up giving one of hte good fishing lure, but it hard to do early on

[slim mantle]

be happy to get them, they're good

[magic haven]

is wellington quest important?

[slim mantle]

just wiki those npc's to see their quest rewards

[rain scroll]

i got some other trash too tho xD

idk if i should gamba there r so many things for me to buy which can help me

[slim mantle]

depends on what u need most at the moment and how long it takes to return to rotation naturally

[rain scroll]

idk tbh what i need most

but many things in gem shop can prove quite useful

[slim mantle]

I only did chip gamba for choco chip when it was like half a year for it to appear in rotation

[rocky jacinth]

What does this mean

The star sign?

[rain scroll]

top left doubler will be very good for crystal farming if i get

[rocky jacinth]

Ik the blue one is 2x the purple 3x so is this 4x?

[wet ravine]

ure printing like 3x or something

u can check it in idleon eff

[rain scroll]

purple is 6x i think

[rocky jacinth]

Oh i see

[slim mantle]

it helps but it's a lot less important than getting choco was for me for example, u already got a doubler so genie doubled which is the best one, poop is only like a few mobs better rate

[rocky jacinth]

So it'll be purple if I have both blue and yellow?

Gotcha

[slim mantle]

well, usually, it can visually bug out

[rain scroll]

it will be 40-50% more its decent

making the chiz card 5 star will also be good

5% more shrine will be good on lv 14-15 ish shrines

but for that ill do rift and unlock ruby cards

[slim mantle]

it's 60% but remember that doesn't mean 1 in 30 changes into 1 in 12

[rain scroll]

mine is 1 in 40

rn or so

[slim mantle]

it was an example

[rain scroll]

ill reach 1 in 20s i think with that tho

[slim mantle]

no u won't

[rocky jacinth]

I have the lab and harriep multi active but it won't change to purple?

[rain scroll]

not even 1 in 28?

or so

[slim mantle]

not from just poop doubling

[faint willow]

i havent even unlocked divinity, so cant tell myself

[rain scroll]

i have all sources tho now

[slim mantle]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[feral rain]

!gear

[rocky jacinth]

Ah no worries thank you

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[rain scroll]

just poop is 4 star and left cardifier and chaotic chiz to 5 star is left

[rocky jacinth]

Ohh i see sorry didn't notice it
Thanks again

[rain scroll]

shrine is lv15

[slim mantle]

as you can see the major game changer is shrine

[rain scroll]

wow

[robust karma]

someone could help me with w3 dungeon?

[buoyant hinge]

Hey guys i have a question

[rain scroll]

this is what it shows what do u suggest is good? @slim mantle

[buoyant hinge]

Hey guys what should i focus on to get defense

[slim mantle]

starting w3 you don't rely on defense anymore, you just use food

[buoyant hinge]

Ok

Thanks

[rain scroll]

any suggestion?

[slim mantle]

the suggestions shown are fine

[rain scroll]

i dont think i need gold sprinkler tho

out of these what u think is best?

[slim mantle]

gold sprinkler should help u progress gaming a lot for a long time

[buoyant hinge]

But what about world 4 because i am trying to get elite calss for my characters

[slim mantle]

still food

[buoyant hinge]

Ok

[rain scroll]

ima get maybe instagrow

that seems better my farming sucks

[deep wigeon]

do bubo green tube talent only work when bubo is in lab getting xp? or is it a passive as long as requirement is met?

[slim mantle]

it's always active

[rain scroll]

idk why i dont boss farm i should ;-; i sometimes dont have keys/time sometimes get lazy

[slim mantle]

boss farming is key

[deep wigeon]

i havent even unlocked chizoar armor…

[slim mantle]

I haven't missed a day in many months

[rain scroll]

how do u get enough keys tho?

[slim mantle]

you do realise keys are not difficult to come by for someone at my stage right

[latent bramble]

Can also recraft your amarok set with w4 stones

[slim mantle]

just killing w3 miniboss weekly gives me more than enough keys for daily boss grind on chizoar for example xD

I mean, free 1200 or so keys weekly, every run of 300 gives like 120-130 or so back

[deep wigeon]

should i kill minibosses everytime its posible?

[slim mantle]

every time u can spawn 2 so every 7 days

[rain scroll]

oo and colosseum tickets too

[slim mantle]

that's like a last resort and do w1 if u do, colo tickets are too valuable

[rain scroll]

oh i wasted colo tickets i wont now ig

[faint willow]

if i have 2 foods that are consumed at 50%, do they both consume or just 1?

[slim mantle]

1

[rain scroll]

but i have a decent amount

well we only get 3 a day

[rain scroll]

not like before i was noob when we got ticket from po box

[slim mantle]

which is exactly why they are so damn valuable that u shouldn't waste them

[rain scroll]

do the instagrows from free stack if we dont use or disappear?

[latent bramble]

kind of wish i had touched po box, but realize i wouldn't have used them anyway

[rain scroll]

i do have a decent amount of keys too

[slim mantle]

"from free"?

[rain scroll]

finally new land

[rain scroll]

yea and old colosseums i did and the miniboss

[slim mantle]

wtf do those have to do with instagrows???

[rain scroll]

oh wait i thought u were saying keys

the instagrows from gemshop purchase

[latent bramble]

they stack forever

[slim mantle]

but what free ones? it's gemshop so not free

[rain scroll]

oo i see

[rain scroll]

its 2 free every day tho after 1 purchase

acecow u stack stuff lol

[latent bramble]

or who knows, maybe it'll cap at 999

[slim mantle]

that's not free, you purchased that 2/d

[rain scroll]

okok

[slim mantle]

gues I'll find out eventually

[rain scroll]

how do i get farming better

[slim mantle]

by farming more for starters, for how long you have been in w6 you have clearly been neglecting to actually farm

[rain scroll]

i didnt play 1 month

ik im bad

and sent u the day market before

should i reset crops and start doing only day market?

[slim mantle]

#endgame-chat-w7🐟 pins

[rain scroll]

its hard xD

i need a bit more detailed

[faint willow]

i want to get maestro but im stuck on the 15 hoops in a row quest until reset

[latent bramble]

if you have gems to spare, you can buy one minigame purchase for some more chances

[latent bramble]

Just make sure to throw points into value gmo too now since it works
#endgame-chat-w7🐟 message

[faint willow]

i dont and i have already bought 1 some time ago, ill just wait, i have around 3 hours untilk reset i think

i think by that time i should have 25 catching also

[rain scroll]

im too noob

@worn raptor i said myself bro im nub

[sonic rapids]

guys, everything here influences in pet dmg?

[slim mantle]

none of that does

[worn raptor]

ik, chill bro, farming sucks

[rain scroll]

tell me how to improve

[sonic rapids]

wut

[rain scroll]

do i go for carrot ?with my new plot

[worn raptor]

idk im noob too, ive 140/160

[slim mantle]

none of those increase ur pet power

[latent bramble]

thats all for next pet chance

[sonic rapids]

ik, im just surprised

years thinking the wrong thing xd

[slim mantle]

*140/180

[worn raptor]

180? lmao

[slim mantle]

lava added 20 more few weeks ago

[worn raptor]

ah lal

idk, i didnt play this thing

[slim mantle]

slacker

[rain scroll]

i want to reduce growth time

[slim mantle]

and a lot of that is done through, you guesed it, farming

[slim mantle]

outside source is this, upped by vial mastery

[sour cave]

Maybe stupid question, but ive hit lvl 70 recently and im wearing full gold armor/weapons, silver+dungeon trinkets, but I cant seem to reach high enough Accuracy to progress in the 2nd half of W3.
Also Plat pickaxe is not enough to mine Plat on 80%+ chance on farming optinizef warriors? What am I missing regarding the progression system?

[rain scroll]

mine is very low and very hard to upgrade this vial too

[slim mantle]

except for the helmet make amarok armor and do ur clickers, dungeons, starsigns

[rain scroll]

rn im working on maxing 3 vials

[slim mantle]

it's a suffer through active es vial

[faint willow]

how are your owl and kangaroo looking?

[sour cave]

Got 4 giant feather and 7 upgrades I think, but what is the kangaroo? 😂 maybe im missing that one

[faint willow]

its similar to owl but a bit more complex, form world 2

[slim mantle]

kangaroo is the w2 version

[rain scroll]

mine

[faint willow]

it gaves accuraccy as bonus, so it may help you

[sour cave]

Oh, ill have to look up on how to find that one one the wiki then. Thank you very much 🙂

[slim mantle]

buy map in w2

[faint willow]

may not be enough for a couple of days but its def something you want to start buidling up for later

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Poppy_the_Kangaroo_Mouse's_Fish_Pond

[pallid kernel]

For now just put 1 plot for each seed type pushing evo’s, while rest will focus on upgrading day market. Eventually you will get to 61 crops and unlock land ranks, as well as mushroom seeds around that time frame. You will start the prestige cycle and it will speed up a ton. As for day market, try to do what scolibot says

[rain scroll]

my crops are all even rn do i reset them?

leaving 1 of each?

[faint willow]

for kangaroo check the pinned guide on #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ , since you need to play a bit carefully, unlike owl thats has no punishment

[pallid kernel]

Wdym

[faint willow]

@sour cave other than that maybe invest a bit on stamps or more talent points on secondary stat

[pallid kernel]

Are you talking about bean trading? No need for that until mushroom seed unlocked

[rain scroll]

remove seeds and replant to get lower seeds again

[sour cave]

Yeah already deep into stamps and vials. I maxed out luck on almost all chars now, since I thought that might be the most cost effective in general, but maybe ill have to respec talents for now and consider a „progression build“ idk… Thanks for the infos, ill try the treasure map kangaroo first tho… feels like that should have been active prior to world 3 already 😄

[forest canyon]

If that’s what’s your need to upgrade day market, then yeah

Just make sure to keep 1 plot for each seed type pushing evos

[faint willow]

i think luck is probably the least useful stat on anyone other than secret class

[slim mantle]

luck only gives accuracy to the beginner classline

[rain scroll]

okay

[sour cave]

Well… 😐 mayyyybe thats where i fucked up. I feel like Ive read somewhere that luck boosts accuracy regardless the class, but I guess that was a mistake then

[uneven obsidian]

and it require to have high amount of it to make any significant increase in DR and exp

[faint willow]

No, every class has a main stat and a secondary one, main stat buffs his damage and specialized skills, and secondary buffs accuracy
...........primary/secondary
Warrior: STR/WIS
Mage: WIS/AGI
Archer: AGI/STR

@sour cave

luck is only for the secret class but you should probably worry about that for your 7th-10th character

[sour cave]

Yeah, Ive read that one, I think I just didnt know about the meastro journeyman class thingie when i first started and expected that all the base classes would count as beginner

thank god reset potions are plentyful in this game 😄

[slim mantle]

they're super rare, trust

[rain scroll]

im gonna try a bit as u said im very weak for it tho yet

using this set

[slim mantle]

tf are those rings

[rain scroll]

xD

random trash lying around taking space so on they go

[slim mantle]

.......

[daring falcon]

hi all, i have a question. I just finished the quest for my elite class, but never got to choose. Right now, i am stuck as a warrior. Anyone know how to fix this?

[latent bramble]

go pick your subclass first

[rain scroll]

i mean im a noob what can i even do 😦 @slim mantle

[slim mantle]

equip like any other ring than those?

[daring falcon]

wow....im dumb lmao. Thank you haha

[upbeat cargo]

@rain scroll TIL you can splice rift

[slim mantle]

W

[rancid furnace]

I'm gaining particles even though my collider is off, does anyone know what from?

[slim mantle]

collider

[latent bramble]

anything over 1050m will auto convert

[rancid furnace]

oh thats sweet thanks

[agile willow]

atom collider still works off, it even works if you haven't built it yet

[slim mantle]

turning it off is just a safety measure u don' taccidentally change it to like 15m and lose all ur resources

[agile willow]

to understand why you'd need to study quantic physics

[rancid furnace]

super positioned photons passing through collider logic gates?

[agile willow]

and it happens even if there is no collider, so collider logic gates exists without an atom collider, the atom collider only gathers the results

[rain scroll]

hmm?

[latent bramble]

yeah, since the 1050m was a workaround for mobile overflow

[rancid furnace]

collider = viewing port

[slim mantle]

collider = shop, atoms = currency

[agile willow]

and how is it working

mobile overflow

[rain scroll]

slowly getting up there ahh

[compact marlin]

Is this good for w4? (I'll also be getting void helm soon)
Already working on some stuff like shaq and using stones on archer for acc

[zenith hare]

very

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[zenith hare]

1mill damage is all you need for troll too

so all you need now is acc, and you basically have 100% on last map alr

so focus strength tbh

so you get more hp

so survivability goes up

[compact marlin]

Ok

Also what's the best way to speed up unlocking portals for w4?

[zenith hare]

be active, get the lab node to give 2x kph

[vocal path]

Is the move speed pot the best?

[zenith hare]

grind candies

[zenith hare]

most of the time yes

[vocal path]

Ah ok thanks!

[rain scroll]

ye later people only use if they do

[agile willow]

if you don't have 100% survivability then normal food are more important than speed pots

[upbeat cargo]

splicing as in: get w4 genes from rift afk fighting

[rain scroll]

food it is for survivability

[rain scroll]

oo i dont have w4 splicer

[gusty adder]

no way bro i got better armour but i m cooked

[rain scroll]

and i had like 2.5m or so kills those got wasted but idc it was 1-2d afk on 3-4 cchar

[faint willow]

is there a guide for skilling maestro?

[zenith hare]

armour means very little

[rain scroll]

w6 buffs are great

[agile willow]

its the same as skilling other classes, but slower

[zenith hare]

I could wear nothing and deal like 1000x more then keith

[agile willow]

as he doesn't have talents for skil efficiency

[zenith hare]

even without talents

[slim mantle]

More than 1000x

[zenith hare]

oh absolutely

but thinking vman maybe close

if I take everything off

[rain scroll]

but i think jman actually skills faster than other chars for non specialised skills!

[faint willow]

is this worth at all?

[agile willow]

depends if you lose a tier of efficiency or not

[slim mantle]

Worth for trapping and worship

[agile willow]

if you want to minmax you need to check on each node you want to farm on what level you want it at

[rain scroll]

so im pro now as im in view of comparision yessir

[zenith hare]

on a level 1 talentless vman yes

no cards too~

[rain scroll]

lv1?

[agile willow]

for example, here i could push down to 414T and it would give me more exp, maybe if the tier below was 380T then maybe i could try to lower my efficiency to 380T and see what's best

[faint willow]

maybe i should wait until i get multitool to start skilling

[agile willow]

eh the earlier you start the earlier you finish

[rain scroll]

lol

multitool is w5 and lv 50 divinity or so

[agile willow]

jman sucks at fighting too, so if you take him away from fighting you won't lose much

[faint willow]

how hard is to get divinity 50?

[rain scroll]

jman sucks at everything vman good for family bonuses

[agile willow]

i started skilling with him when i reached lvl 50 fighting

[zenith hare]

not how skilling xp works

it'll be the same at 1x multi as it is at 50x

all that matters is successful actions per minute

and a higher tier resource

[rain scroll]

finally!

+4.4% speed noice

[ancient flame]

does the wormhole increase drop rate or drop amount

[fierce veldt]

what can I do with "useless" keychainsw

i thought maybe they could be recicled or something, but i haven't found how

[rain scroll]

can do nothing just throw them away and leave the map

[fierce veldt]

ugh

[shut lance]

How do I increase my MP max? Im having trouble keeping up with constant casting with my elite classes

[rain scroll]

Wis/talents

im farming for some vial mats now vials are OP

[upbeat cargo]

basically tab 1 talent...

[faint willow]

this star talent exists too

[astral hearth]

is mafioso forager pet better than squirrel forager pet? or does only power matter?

[astral lava]

Power only matter

[rain scroll]

only powr

[agile willow]

between two pets of the same type only pet power matters

[frank gull]

does black chips affect the passive card if i equip them

[rain scroll]

no

[kind trellis]

No

[rain scroll]

it says on the chip

[rain scroll]

whats the best way to max monster mat vials?

my vman is very bad 😦

[uneven obsidian]

vman print or es active farm

[rain scroll]

es active farm will take a very long time

[hexed patio]

https://i.imgur.com/M5vrtmh.png

how do i come up with this fight power

[rain scroll]

3m carry cap and no ram

[hexed patio]

(i might have gotten this far, but my setups for spices are trash lol)

[rain scroll]

if id have ram it wouldve been a bit easier

[uneven obsidian]

got the +carry cap prayer ?

[tepid copper]

what genetics do you have

[rain scroll]

i dont think so

rucked sack or smthn?

[hexed patio]

i have everything unlocked

[uneven obsidian]

yeah

[rain scroll]

too hard

my highest is 80 i did get poison to lv 10 now and have the equinox buff too but still i dont think ill be able to do that

[tepid copper]

this setup is what i use

although my blooming axe is at level 7/10

[hexed patio]

just put nukes on them?

[tepid copper]

^use the lullaby airways for your bamboo forest and the bamboo forest is your spirit fields

put nukes in spirit fields and hamburger team in bamboo

sorry i wasnt very clear

[hexed patio]

youre fine lol

[hexed patio]

ill wait to get a spice done for 'spirit fields' before i do that setup. I appreciate the tip

i just unlocked both of these

[zenith hare]

remove the duck

[tepid copper]

goodluck soldier

[zenith hare]

the duck is a 5x, borger is a 10x

unless the duck has 2x pet power its worse

[tepid copper]

lowkey i think duck is 3x...

but you're right thanks

[zenith hare]

either way: it be worse

[lusty stump]

I'm having a brain fart. How do I go backwards in the rift? I need to work on kilroy prime for the equinox dream.

[zenith hare]

you cant

and killroy prime doesnt need rift minus unlock

[lusty stump]

ok, my brain is mush right now from clicking on time candy the last two hours to void skull everything and get the 100b gmush.

[tepid copper]

is there a point where shiny pets dont get more from leveling up

[zenith hare]

nope

it just eventually takes too long to level up

most people aim for 13 nowadays, i think 14/15 is possible if you hard focus it but beyond that is really really hard

[tepid copper]

is there a guide anywhere that details what are the best passives

i have all 68 i just dont know what to focus on first

[zenith hare]

inf star signs till you have em all at level 6/7, faster shiny leveling, refinery cycle speed, and base critter per trap is best

[uneven obsidian]

all meals

[zenith hare]

ofc level all when its easy

[tepid copper]

yeah i remember from my idle skilling days that faster shiny leveling (or at least its equivalent) was really good

[zenith hare]

oh yeah and that! thats also really important

[tepid copper]

all meals?

[uneven obsidian]

+meal bonus

cooking get even more op

[latent bramble]

autoreview has a section for them

[tepid copper]

whats auto review

[latent bramble]

!review

[candid scarab]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[rain scroll]

tomorrow ill get the silkrode nanochip 🙂

[tepid copper]

huge!

thanks yall

[rain scroll]

slowly catching up

[tepid copper]

is there any way to use autoreview without having an idleon efficiency account, it never works for my account

[latent bramble]

!it

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[latent bramble]

Though neither will work if you signed up through steam

[rain scroll]

hope i had ram 😦

[lusty stump]

@tepid copper are you copying and pasting or trying the public profile option?

[slim mantle]

Trialpears with lvl 20 meal bonus pets

[uneven obsidian]

thats some crazy level, and crazy bonus

[slim mantle]

And crazy gameplay, going active bm

[uneven obsidian]

yeah... that too

at least he better be doing some 20min trap claim while doing that

[rain scroll]

how is doing gmush farm with bubo compared to with es?

or mats farm (normal ones)

[slim mantle]

I believe he did

Es wins on mats always

[rain scroll]

but he has full 2k sec cd on chets skill

whereas bubo will have almost no cd

on gmush how will the rates be like have u ever tried?

[tight raven]

I am afk farming pearler shells is drop rate more important or multi kill?

[slim mantle]

wtf are you talking about, 2000 sec cd on what????

[slim mantle]

ur litterally right next to town at gmush, just change map, deposit, change again

[uneven obsidian]

es as the skill t hat increase the multikill bonus, which give more loot iirc

[slim mantle]

portal in general is just a material printer

[rain scroll]

but i cant have attention on game while studying

[slim mantle]

that changes nothing

that deposit talent doesn't auto activate, you have to do it urself, so full inventory on es or full inventory on bubo (after more time) changes nothing in that regard

[rain flicker]

whats the refinery levels to optomise it?

[slim mantle]

see the pins

[rain scroll]

new strat 3 pusher else all focus day market

[slim mantle]

that bottom one is locked, he won't push shit :p

[rain scroll]

oh yea i had locked it to open new plot now got it thanks

this good strat now

bubo is extremely bad on w1 maps

[tight raven]

?

[slim mantle]

you can have 0 multikill or a million multikill, the drops will be the same

[fierce veldt]

what world is this with the farming?

ah

[slim mantle]

I swear, this is way too frequent

[uneven obsidian]

sure is annoying at the very least

[slim mantle]

almost half of my purples were +1

and some of the others were +2 and +5

don't mind the fact I can find over +400 nah lets stick to sub 10, thanks game

[uneven obsidian]

at this point they might as well delete them and you wouldn mind it that much

[slim mantle]

well I'm early in purples so I would mind, it's still gains but for how rare they are man do I hate how low level they all come out as

managed to get 2 decent ones, decent being still below 50% of what they could have been

[rain scroll]

my sneaking also is terrible

[harsh nebula]

Recently got my first elite class (es) but I don’t know generally what to do. Since I am in w4, what should my main focus be?

I’m also pushing my squire for dk

[slim mantle]

have everybody except 1 in lab, cycle them all to elite class then push with 1

[harsh nebula]

What’s so important about lab, may I ask?

[slim mantle]

all the bonusses you unlock inside, some of the early ones being x2 prints, x3 refinery speed, daily free alchemy bubble levels, 2x kills

also unlocking chip slots for ur characters

[torpid acorn]

It has some really good buffs if you can reach them. You need to put them all in for grinding lab lvl

[uneven obsidian]

and lab level increase the length of the line to connect from character to character

[harsh nebula]

Ok, thanks to all!

[torpid acorn]

More lab lvl = more longer reach

Boy im on a redundant streak

[slim mantle]

go on idleon toolbox and check the lab section for all the nodes and jewels

[uneven obsidian]

yeah w4-w5 got lots of jail time

[slim mantle]

I still think lava should have made the hole in w6, he went crazy on w5 jail with this

[torpid acorn]

Real, im not pushing W5 for at least a month or two

[slim mantle]

well u should push w5

[torpid acorn]

Im not gonna be able to beat kattlekruk

[slim mantle]

it's not that hard

[torpid acorn]

I was gonna check later though if there npcs after hole i need tho

[uneven obsidian]

should still try to push to him and check as you get more power from sailing

[slim mantle]

and it takes time to reach the boss, it's not like ur not gaining strength as ur pushing

[torpid acorn]

I need 35m with my DK i have 2

[torpid acorn]

Nah i have like 40 days of candies im gonna push it in 2 minutes

[slim mantle]

swap over to ES and u only need 30m 🙂 he also scales damage better at ur stage

[slim mantle]

that's just the wrong attitude

[torpid acorn]

Yeah i know but ES was my last new class so i dont wanna level him for the amount of effort itll be to get all the stuff

[slim mantle]

level comes easy and he doesn't need as high of a level as dk to work well

[torpid acorn]

If i need to backtrack while still on DK ill do it

[slim mantle]

w6 is the backtracking world

[harsh patrol]

Does drop chance effect souls gain?

[torpid acorn]

Ive heard tales of minor backtracking to get the damage req. but those were from old guides tbf

[slim mantle]

now u have the clickers providing a lot of early game damage so ur fine and if you just active push u more than likely have the damage by the time u reach it

[torpid acorn]

Its mainly just the gear, itll be a pain to upgrade him that much with what i have at least until i get comfortable print results

[slim mantle]

amarok even works these days, dementia already worked ages ago, anything else is just overgearing

[torpid acorn]

Are you talking about using them all? I dont have any other plans for using them and im still leaving 50 of each in storage

Well thats mostly defence im not worried about that at all

[slim mantle]

wrong attitude to rely on candy for pushing at all, just active push and spend candy on a better usage later cuz trust me... they exist

[torpid acorn]

Hmm, okay. I feel like i would benefit more from leaving my DK in W5 jail though instead of like a months worth of pushing

My kph have not been great only like 3.3k

[slim mantle]

I pushed my es to w6 in 2 weeks, no candy

[torpid acorn]

Well yeah but my refinery rn is broken as shit so itll be a pain to get the gear for my ES

[slim mantle]

did you just miss this??? you don't need any fucking refinery related shit to get going

[rigid patio]

quick question how did everyone get a lucky lad on vman

[slim mantle]

daily boss grind

[rigid patio]

i have like 10 in my storage but didnt get one on him

[torpid acorn]

No need to be aggressive. Im talking about weaponry.

[slim mantle]

wow an entire 150 salt, I'm sure you can squeeze that out of ur refinery

and honestly could push with the previous tier

[torpid acorn]

Again, no need to be aggressive. But i feel i would rather have a better weapon than one unlocked at W3

[slim mantle]

waste of time

gear does so little in this game

[torpid acorn]

I feel ive noticed some pretty good benefits especially when i switched from hammer to deuscythe

[slim mantle]

you just waste a lot of time getting gear that won't even make the push any faster

[uneven obsidian]

speed increase probably has bigger impact on dps than dmg

since hammer is medium speed, and scythe is quick

[torpid acorn]

im gonna leave my ES in div jail regardless until ive done my time then ill try pushing with him once ive done a decent amount. Maybe not the full div, i feel thats a good compromise

[slim mantle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ slowing down ur account, do what you like

[torpid acorn]

Even though right now my ES gets a solid third of experimental active gains than DK but if you say itll work better than ill try it

[uneven obsidian]

part of why es has it easier is becasue you dont need 1.5X the accuracy for his dmg buff compared to dk

also es scale with stamp and not refinery rank. stamps are easier to come by earliy on compared to refinery ranks

[slim mantle]

also just better damage scaling at that point in the game and less damage needed

[torpid acorn]

I have no doubt hes better than DK but my ES is so friggin new that it seems not worth it

[hoary pebble]

Does grinding plunderous mobs ever become more efficient than just getting +1 kill every time? Feels like grinding portal and orb kills is far easier.

[torpid acorn]

But i know ill need to lvl him regardless

[slim mantle]

I convinced ppl with lvl 180 dk's and lvl 90 es's in the past who all came back thanking me about their much better pushing but hey

[slim mantle]

vman enhancement makes it slightly better but it remains shitty, the achievement is nearly 50 full days of active sb for late gamers

[hoary pebble]

mind you im not even going for the achievement right now, i just need more droprate from wherever I can get it

and yet that still sounds depressing

[slim mantle]

it gives you a point of refference

[uneven obsidian]

i think most ppl go for like 10k-100k at first, then go back to it later for achi

[hoary pebble]

yea i can already see the amount of suffering I've got to look forward to

[slim mantle]

early on honestly would stop at 10k

[forest canyon]

I did w4 with dk and w5 with es. Es will quickly catch up

[hoary pebble]

Alright I'll go for 10k for now, thanks

[forest canyon]

I did 100k plunderous and stopped

[torpid acorn]

When do you take ES out of div jail?

[slim mantle]

if u have vman enhancement btw make sure u go full crystal chance

[forest canyon]

I dunno I had doot

[uneven obsidian]

if you have/when you unlock mushie cave in the hole in w5 you can use SB active to farm the card, since its the best class to farm it on

[slim mantle]

the card turns out to be additive btw, it's not worth farming xD

at like 9 mil ish xp/h upgrading the card gave me a whole 3k xp/h gain

and it has horrible rates for plunderous xD

[uneven obsidian]

if you want to complete the cards it still gonna need to be farmed and SB is the only class with a working respawn mech in there

[slim mantle]

I'm not even close to attempting to ruby it all and if I did that card would be cardified from this point on lol

[forest canyon]

That can wait until 50x dr and insane card dr

[torpid acorn]

Does slab actually do anything or is it just a neat thing that lava decided should exist

[forest canyon]

I really need to ruby easy resources

[slim mantle]

it does

[torpid acorn]

Damn it wrong world chat

[uneven obsidian]

will get buff based on amount of items found, plus it acts as a visual interface for hunter looty talent

[forest canyon]

There’s bonuses that scale off slab. I think first one is an artifact

[torpid acorn]

Oh ok 👍🏻

Artifacts seem really good btw do they stay good?

[uneven obsidian]

slab related buff

[forest canyon]

(Slab is actually useless and we are maliciously misleading you since you are in wrong chat)

[forest canyon]

Yeah pretty much

[slim mantle]

• more

[torpid acorn]

Hell yeah

[uneven obsidian]

yeah theres 6 bubbles and 2 lab bonus affected by slab

[rain scroll]

today my slab went from 1087 smthn to 1131!

[torpid acorn]

W

[forest canyon]

Scolibot has been screaming at me I have a bunch of easy slab items but I’m too lazy to pick them up

[rain scroll]

same i did those today(the easiest ones i did)

[torpid acorn]

Lol, is slab something i should do when backtracking or it easy enough to get a bunch of them at once when i get a buff from it

[frank gull]

I stop rubyin cards on the first 2 w6 mobs. W6 card req are insanely huge 🤦‍♂️

[forest canyon]

How much dr should I have before gstacking quest items

[uneven obsidian]

depend on what you are missing, but take in the habit of droping on the floor and picking up anything you craft or receive as quest reward from now on

[slim mantle]

ur telling me, just getting this to 3* is gonna be another 2 maybe 3 days xD

[forest canyon]

I rubied that after i got it from a card pack prew6

[slim mantle]

I decided it was time for me to go ruby it

[frank gull]

Lucky you got that on pack

[forest canyon]

Reaching that 50x cap

[slim mantle]

50x isn't a cap and I'm not gonna reach it any time soon, I don't have dr wings or keychain doubler

[forest canyon]

Well soft cap

[forest canyon]

Keychain doubler comes in March right?

[slim mantle]

6th of februari actually

[rain scroll]

tomorrow ill get silkrode yee

[slim mantle]

I could farm for more golden cakes but after just having gone through a ton of active es for ghosts and candy for pearler shells I don't wanna do more cakes

[forest canyon]

Oh so exactly 1 month. That’s not bad

[rain scroll]

gn

[forest canyon]

Gn

[slim mantle]

long enough of a wait still :p

at some point I also have to finish the plunderous achievement

[rocky jacinth]

Anyone would lend me a hand with the cattle quest? Only need an S character

1 star, game sucks!

[uneven obsidian]

bleh finally done using 1200 eggs, felt more like 2000+

[slim mantle]

only 1200? 🙂

surely you were atleast clicking them 1 at a time for optimal 60% chance of +2 right

[uneven obsidian]

hell no

[slim mantle]

right there with ya but it would be the optimal gains strat :p

[uneven obsidian]

too much clicking as is, not making it worst for optimal strat

[slim mantle]

I know, need auto trash feature and auto use single egg from storage xD

[uneven obsidian]

i did get like a +225-250ish % boost on shiny rate from that

[slim mantle]

if only it was a multi :p

[uneven obsidian]

not like i have any other use for the dna, and at least lava finaly boosted it

[slim mantle]

I spend my dna on xp

[white path]

I suggested auto trash but it didn't get put in #best-suggestions-✅

[slim mantle]

[deep wigeon]

can i use time candy for star signs that need afk time?

[thorn mango]

Depends which ones

[slim mantle]

yes

[thorn mango]

Yes but it has to be higher than the afk sign in one go

[slim mantle]

I know, but the answer to the question is yes :p

[thorn mango]

Like if you had to afk for 8 hours you'd have to use a 12 hour or higher candy

Still gotta think about the other parts can't leave those out

[deep wigeon]

hmm ok, thats what i feared

[slim mantle]

candy is the same as afk time, you also have to afk the full 8 hours at once instead of 2x 4 hours

[forest canyon]

Is the extra 7k ish dna worth it to max that? Mine is at lvl 8 rn with 52%

[slim mantle]

might aswell, more eggs = more dna and xp

[uneven obsidian]

need a nerd to math it out, but overall it will probably end up a win

[forest canyon]

Alright I’ll max it then

[slim mantle]

it's guaranteed to end up a win, just a question of how long it takes :p

[thorn mango]

Occido is a nerd

[uneven obsidian]

less than going through a stack of 1200 eggs like i just did imo

[forest canyon]

New cavern Thursday prob

[thorn mango]

On god I just want new classes nothing else

[forest canyon]

I’ll take what I can get

[slim mantle]

need caverns 11-15

[forest canyon]

Have the new classes been confirmed to be in w6?

[slim mantle]

yes

[uneven obsidian]

couldnt that also be related to BB master class ?

[slim mantle]

well, 3 of them

[forest canyon]

Well I doubt he’s gonna put 3 in w6 and 3 in w5

[slim mantle]

3 in w7

[forest canyon]

Yeah I suppose that could happen

[slim mantle]

will

[forest canyon]

I guess hes planning on making those 3 buff w7 skills?

[slim mantle]

ye

[forest canyon]

Guess we won’t be seeing those classes in forever

[slim mantle]

it's already been forever to get the w6 classes :p

[high lake]

what is the pet review bot called

[forest canyon]

Forever forever

[forest canyon]

Auto review?

[high lake]

no it was something else

[thorn mango]

What about new classes or atleast the w6 boss, w6 has been out long enough

I did want to say this when you first messaged but my phone decided to update right then

[high lake]

the one that told me what pets i should use and where to place them

[forest canyon]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[forest canyon]

This?

[high lake]

yes thx

[slim mantle]

he doesn't really have a need for the w6 boss till w7 is around the corner so wouldn't expect it quite yet, caverns really need 11-15 release now and then some buffer time for 16-20 so thats when classes should come

[forest canyon]

I should put my opals on measure

[thorn mango]

But what If people want w6 boss armour now

[slim mantle]

that can wait

[frigid pebble]

Anyone know why the oinkin task W4 - Diner Deliverer - Upgrade various pet upgrades using Grey DNA and meals.

Doesn't work for the other characters like the pigs first task did? I did the requirements and got the reward on my 1st, but for every other one I take up there, he just reads the quest out again.

Thought it was gonna be a fairly easy source for a few eggs and ladles

[deep wigeon]

u just gotta get task then upgrade

[frigid pebble]

But the upgrading is already done. I've got the required upgrades at the lvl he wants.

[slim mantle]

and the quest won't update until you perform another upgrade

[frigid pebble]

Ah, so that needs to be triggered again. Great!

Appreciate the help

[slim mantle]

ye it only checks when something is being upgraded

[frigid pebble]

Wonder if just using grey DNA would trigger it?

[slim mantle]

it would

[frigid pebble]

I'll check after I've put the kiddo to bed!

[frigid pebble]

Result.

[slim mantle]

make sure u do it with the character that has the quest

[high lake]

any tips on the rift where i have to get 180 oor stat even tho that talent on my max only goes on for 74 sec?

[slim mantle]

increase max level, get statues on bottom floors, stand on top using boomering to clear the rest, move speed pots for when u have to run after mobs

[frigid pebble]

All my characters have the same quest, so I might need to trigger it on each one of them.

[slim mantle]

yeah I think u do, not entirely certain but fairly certain

[frigid pebble]

You're right, I spend some grey DNA to upgrade and the quest got a reward. Time to burn some low level pets. Again, really appreciate the help.

[high lake]

my rift afk kills also counts all other chars together right?

[slim mantle]

Yes

[velvet anchor]

How to get the enhance thing for pocket div?

[slim mantle]

Its another conjuror upgrade from the blue catagory

Like first or second or something.

[mint spruce]

Best armor for the whole w4?

[random zodiac]

What is the number of kills for the death note for bosses for each tier? Can you get eclipse skulls? It does not give that on the wiki.

[velvet anchor]

Oh

[stray wharf]

Is there a specific worship build in terms of gear and cards and stuff? I'm not seeing a bot command for it, while trapping does have one.

[zenith junco]

Well you can get points at the start of a tower defence, besides that BM/Hunter is the best because of his kick/root

[rapid silo]

What's the best team for spices battles ?

[tall harness]

depends on pets u have unlocked

[zenith junco]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

up there you can click on the pets tab

and there you can see what teams are consideres the best at certain stages of breeding

[rapid silo]

But with team is for spice battles?

[zenith junco]

should be the left ones

[rapid silo]

Ok I'll try those

[mint spruce]

Best armor for w4?

[faint willow]

is this only for dk or accountwide

[west ingot]

should i put my first viking helm on my miner or my pusher?

[kind trellis]

Account wide.

[kind trellis]

Miner. Mostly wasted on your pusher and you can probably make something better soon.

[west ingot]

i could mass produce them if i had glass shards i have 2 people killing pots lol

[faint willow]

If i have 2 dks do both printer output from each skill add up or does it count the bigger one

[kind trellis]

Bigger. Same applies to SB and ES.

[kind trellis]

Up to you. You're really only getting the STR and defense from it for your pusher, which probably isn't a huge change in the pushing ability. But, it is an increase.

[west ingot]

also should i skip plat armor and go straight for dementia? dementia seems like the requirements are easier

nvm i do not have the mining efficiency for that

It would take 27 days to get every single dementia item with the hourly rate I have on my miner

[high lake]

where can i look up myy total skill lv i have from all chars for the rift thing?

[static compass]

IE/IT

[torpid acorn]

!it

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[high lake]

under which part ?

I only see the individual ones

[tall harness]

https://idleontoolbox.com/account/world-4/rift?t=Skill+Mastery

[torpid acorn]

Im not home rn. Idk where rift exactly is i just know its with all the features

[high lake]

got it thx

[mighty aspen]

what would be the next step after viking helm. for pushing with barb

[ashen nest]

Where can I find which 2 chars already succeeded with the current rift or not?

[static compass]

It tells you when you enter the rift if you did it or not with that character.

[mighty aspen]

because you said soon which is kinda vague

[ashen nest]

Where exactly?

[ashen nest]

viking is for mining, or do you mean push new maps?

[mighty aspen]

well viking is also a combat helmet

gives ok damage and accuracy

[ashen nest]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[mighty aspen]

ah so not until w4

ig ill get just viking then because im not pushing with bb in w4

[spare terrace]

how do i get to the third snake in snakentop, im trying to beat w2 and 3 dungeons for equinox

[hidden violet]

I think that dungeon is a bunch of mini puzzles. I got carried through it and I had no idea what was going on haha

Only done it once though. It was a few puzzles then the snake boss last

[spare terrace]

yea i just keep getting the first snake and then the dungeon ends after that

[hidden violet]

Yeahhh they must’ve not done the puzzle right

[ashen nest]

Do you kill the 5 stones from each puzzle?

[spare terrace]

yea i did im pretty sure, i missed maybe 1 but thats it

[ashen nest]

Make sure to miss none

[spare terrace]

got it*

[static compass]

Should be an extra line here iirc.

[ashen nest]

No such thing

I have now finished with another char, and see no extra line when I enter again

[static compass]

Just good ol' memory then.

[frigid crane]

Im trying to get the onyx statue crafting, is their a decent way to get to 20K power statues

[agile willow]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message all things about onyx statues here

also has how long it took Trickz to get them with 15DR

and on what map

[spare terrace]

why is the last snak einvisible?

for th ew2 dungeon

[agile willow]

you failed to get 100% progress on the last 5 missions

[true hamlet]

How will I know if I'm ready for card farming, onyx statues and things like that?

[agile willow]

you need to try again

[agile willow]

look at your drop rate. if you're in w6 you can start

[plucky drift]

Hey guys, i wanna ask about the auto collect of critters from drone in the rift. I want to turn it off but i dont know how. Sorry for my English

[spare terrace]

no way i can get 100% on each mission by myself

[true hamlet]

Ahh, it's going to take a while

[spare terrace]

i guess thats why he changed the equinox from solo to anyone

[true hamlet]

I managed to finally get a full run at rank 32 on my dk

[spare terrace]

im rank 40

[agile willow]

winning some missions progress, i think you need to win 4/5, maybe 3/5 if you got some shazams

you can definitely do it, w2 dungeon is just rng hell

[true hamlet]

Yeah, just got lucky that I got HotF on a run with decent task lineups

[spare terrace]

it takes too much time for all that, is the w3 dungeon worse?

[true hamlet]

I like w1 and w3 a lot more

[spare terrace]

are there any special requirments for 3 or is it just liek 1

[true hamlet]

Similar to 1

[agile willow]

why do you want to turn off? it's a good upgrade

[agile willow]

griffybit has a extensive guide on how to clear all dungeon, i suggest you watch it to know how

[true hamlet]

It's just running around a map and doing tasks, building up damage

[crimson vigil]

whats a good map for cranium cooking that isnt w4/5

[spare terrace]

i would think wood mushrooms

[true hamlet]

I think w3 dungeons are harder than 1 and 2 but it's much less rng dependent than w2

[agile willow]

if you can't even one shot w4 then its problably w1 coliseum, but at that point you won't get much from cranium cooking anywhere

[plucky drift]

I want my hunter to collect the traps because of its skill eagle eye and i can add more critters by using food that adds shiny critter chance

[spare terrace]

i watched his quied for 2 but he said that you need soecific tasks to even get a chance to see the 3rd snake so

[crimson vigil]

ic

[spare terrace]

i didnt even finish it, i guess ill check his w3 dungeon out

thank you for the help yall

[agile willow]

these things matter for when you set up the traps, look at #bot-commands message for mini trap guide, what you should have when place traps and when collecting

[plucky drift]

So even though i place a trap to gain exp and critter only, do i get to have a shiny critter chance by that alone? Or do I need to place traps that gives shiny critter?

[torpid acorn]

alright lads im finally home. who want to turn my 1540 hour adventure into an overcooked italian roast with a side of broken refinery salts? https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=SplatPixel9

ill tell you firsthand my equipment is garbage

[faint willow]

unless it says shiny x0, the shiny is x1

same with silkskin traps, it says shiny and qty, but also gives x1 exp

[plucky drift]

Ohhh so that means i can still gain shiny critters even though i set a trap for critters only

[faint willow]

yes

if you do 20 min traps always do silkskin

[open island]

If I've defeated Chaotic Amarok do you think I can beat Chizoar?

[plucky drift]

I'm using hunter to set 40 hr trap. From the 2nd trap. Then maestro to set 20 hr trap more on exp. The green trap one

I'm using silkskin one for 40 hr trap

[faint willow]

not sure how the maestro thing works, im not there yet, so, cant really tell how that goes

[plucky drift]

I found it in YouTube. Use maestro to set traps that focuses on exp for each player. That means 1 exp trap for each player and all exp trap for maestro to boost trapping level. Because their is a skill from maestro that boost skill efficiency and skill exp if the maestro has higher skilling lvl

I found it later in the game when i was almost at w4. I had a hard time leveling trap and i suddenly found a tutorial from YouTube

[agile willow]

if you don't have every critter you shouldn't worry about exp yet

maybe only on vman

exp traps gives no critters, nor shiny critters

[lyric basalt]

What's better, my main is a squire and I WAS thinking about full dementia helm but it takes a while for me to get dementia bars, so should I just keep pushing for all dementia gear or craft dementia helm and boots along with efaunt armor and pants

[agile willow]

are you getting dementia from your main squire skilling?

[plucky drift]

Ohhh yeah that's right. Now that i have the trapping tools i need, i should focus on trapping critters right now. Thanks for the suggestion

[lyric basalt]

Yep my squire is mining and my barb is fishing rn

[agile willow]

don't do that. try getting dementia from 3d printer, it'll be slower but its better overall

[lyric basalt]

Don't do what?

[agile willow]

keep your current gear and transition to dementia as you gain more ores through 3d printer

[lyric basalt]

Oh

[agile willow]

your main char should always be pushing

[lyric basalt]

Then who would be mining

[agile willow]

the 3d printer

[lyric basalt]

Cuz my barb is fishing

I have a small sample size tho

[agile willow]

what world are you in?

[lyric basalt]

3

[agile willow]

its fine

[lyric basalt]

I get 11 spore caps an hour 😭

[agile willow]

you don't need dementia for w3

[lyric basalt]

Rlly?

[agile willow]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[agile willow]

yeah. amarok gear with gold helmet should be enough

make sure to use w3 upgrade stones

[lyric basalt]

Should I still try getting frost hammer whatever it was called

[agile willow]

if you can do it on your secondary chareacters then yes

main character always push until you reach w6

[lyric basalt]

Have any tips to increase printer size tho?

[agile willow]

this game is different from most MMORPGs where gear matters a lot, gears are a minor upgrade

[agile willow]

basically push new worlds. new worlds unlocks new skills that boosts your account and allow you to get better samples

[lyric basalt]

Mkay I just sampled dementia ores and only got 46 an hour 😭😭

[agile willow]

stamps and alchemy are the main skills you should try to push right now

[lyric basalt]

Alr

[west ingot]

question, if i buy 2 brimstone to make the multibar chance 100% total from brimstone alone will that mean im gauranteed 2 bars per ore cycle?

[agile willow]

he's new to w3

[west ingot]

mines 21..

[velvet anchor]

Print bloches

[west ingot]

for what? im curious

[white lintel]

Shaquracy

[torpid acorn]

^ a bubble in green alch

[wind socket]

guys what are the optimal cards for trapping ?

[kind trellis]

It's really going to depend on what you have and how far you are in the game. The trapping cards themselves, anything that increases skill eff or xp, and increasing agility is what you should focus.

[echo radish]

@zenith hare what do u think the update is gonna be?

[zenith hare]

hole

[slim mantle]

As it should be

[zenith hare]

that or equin

but bets on hole

unless thats a very high detail talent for master classes

[slim mantle]

Looks hole themed to me

And cavern 11-15 is most logical choice from roadmap for this point of time

[novel crypt]

Hey does anyone know how to get lots of defense, VERY quickly, not FMJ tho i struggle to get bugs rn

im in w4 and am only at genies (Bubonic conjuror if info is needed)

[lusty sparrow]

1008 of books statuer per hour, is a good thing or a bad thing?

[slim mantle]

Easy. In w4 bubo belongs in the lab, not on the battlefield
And ur not gonna get immune to dmg defense while pushing anymore anyway, goblet of hemoglobin and food are what keep you alive

[velvet anchor]

Talent I guess 🤷‍♂️ or higher tier of armour

[slim mantle]

Not good, could be worse. 20 hours for onyx

[hidden violet]

The 2 defence stamps that use iron ore/mithril plates

[velvet anchor]

Just don’t use bubo main

[zenith junco]

Orion is good defence early no?

or was it poppy that provides defence?

[gilded galleon]

what main then? i've just switched from BM to BC... you tellin me i chose wrong?

[zenith junco]

Allways swas the bonuses lol

[slim mantle]

es or dk

[zenith junco]

Best class to push is either DK or ES

[upbeat hamlet]

how many oceanman statues/hr should I be getting at w2 bugs with vman

[slim mantle]

depends at ur stage of the game, but atleast make sure u use boost food to speed it up

[waxen copper]

I want to candy a lot of troll keys, who should I do it on

I've been active grinding for the past two and a half days

I don't need forge progress that badly, but idk

Actually shiii maybe I do

But I think I need more Dr if I want more keys

[slim mantle]

mob respawn is very important

and afk gain

[waxen copper]

Mob respawn gets more keys?

[slim mantle]

u need actual kills to be able to drop keys, so more mob respawn = more actual kills = more keys

so like mob respawn keychains, chips, that kinda stuff

also enough move speed to make use of all that mob respawn, idk if u have enough without pots or not

[waxen copper]

Im like, w6

Just trying to grind keys for royal wurm

I'm at like.... 5.3k rn

[slim mantle]

that doesn't mean much, I'm w6, someone who just got to w6 is w6... theres a world of difference between the 2

[waxen copper]

I'm at ceramic spirits

[slim mantle]

still doesn't mean much, that's why I'm telling u about it so you can check if you need pots or not

[waxen copper]

What's the speed cap?

[slim mantle]

afk has no speed cap, it's just u need enough speed to cap out ur respawn, so the more respawn u get the more speed u need

[rain flicker]

Im pushing through world 3 and was wondering if anyone could help with my kills/hr?

my accuracy is at 3.11k so im not struggling to hit the mobs its just im taking forever to kill them

[slim mantle]

do the clickers, they are massive damage gains for early game

[rain flicker]

just leave a character at them for a while?

[slim mantle]

you don't have to afk at them, just go to them frequently to work on them

[rain flicker]

any other recs?

[slim mantle]

make sure ur talents are distributed properly, talents such as these provide u with a lot of dmg

[rain flicker]

i've been using the builds off idlentoolbox would that be okay?

[slim mantle]

they're alright until you unlock elite classes, then u should use what u learned from it and think for urself

[echo radish]

also cuz it was supposed to be already out

[slim mantle]

for sure

[waxen copper]

I need 25k crystal custards. Where do I grind this?

[white path]

crystal custard cards?

[torpid acorn]

I think cans has the most dense map

[waxen copper]

No. Royal wurm mission

[slim mantle]

would depend on the class I'd say

[cold wraith]

good

[ebon kiln]

is there a breeding sheet for estimating max pet power or power i need to get the spice in territory?

[torpid acorn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/htmlview?pli=1#

pets are in there

[ebon kiln]

yeah I have that one, I'm just only at 288/400k on bamboo and wondering what my max pet power is to see if I can actually get to 400

[slim mantle]

in the pins

just put the right setup and you'll notice urself

[ebon kiln]

ah, that gets me to 1m lol

[slim mantle]

1m > 400k, ur good to go

[ebon kiln]

I guess you only need the 1 right - strange skill

[slim mantle]

?

[ebon kiln]

just need the 1 spice for meal unlocks for now, breeding just feels a bit weird to me haha

[slim mantle]

yeah just need 1 spice, theres no real use for the later spices besides that

doesn't stop us from preparing those spices for the future tho :p

[ebon kiln]

reckon he'll expand into w5&6 pets?

[slim mantle]

possibly, who knows

[zenith junco]

where do i farm w6 statues?

[ebon kiln]

I got started on shiny pets so late, forgot they were a thing

[white path]

minichiefs

[ebon kiln]

my hole isn't great either as been focusing on other stuff, but getting there

[twin bay]

wait wait wait i open discord and see this for half a second cuase i swapped servers

[wind hamlet]

[white path]

There's a reason why lava renamed it to "the caverns below" but no one calls it that

[twin bay]

he renamed it?

[white path]

#patch-notes📝 message he renamed it before the update came out

[stiff cobalt]

Question about the ES wormhole skill, does the HP of mobs from the wormhole scale the same no matter what mob you are farming, or is it dependant on the mobs orignal HP. AS in are the Gmush kills easier than say Moltis, or is the HP of all spawned mobs identical?