#off-topic-chat

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wild herald
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Off topic

fringe halo
wild herald
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This

wild herald
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Off topic off topic

shadow summit
lost pike
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I wanted to make an emoji meme

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4 emojis...

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5x5 template.

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RRVRR
RVYVR
VYSYV
RVYVR
RRVRR

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Beautiful, gonna have to make one looks more like a firework later, time to crop this and send it to random people i like on discord.

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plz don't hate me i'm happy i got all the capes, wanted something to comemorate it.

earnest spire
lost pike
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Ok, but still this would've just boiled down to emoji spam.

prime lance
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Awe, they're so cute! I hope they grew up lively and healthy.

sharp quartz
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How do you find the Peanut root?

solemn bay
lofty patrol
solemn bay
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What is the thing

lofty patrol
solemn bay
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What

lofty patrol
spare sentinel
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help i cant login to my alt account

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when i log out and login again it just gets me to my main automatically

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i havent played this game for some time

golden ivy
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No no i accidentally accept invitation from my friend dm link

bronze otter
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i do not cheat

wild herald
compact raptor
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didn't lava make all his own art for Idleon? found the art for Serrated Swipe in another game

earnest spire
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bear is the same as well

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what game is that

brittle marten
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should i speedrun hollow knight?

compact raptor
earnest spire
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its new

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could be that they borrowed from lava

foggy iron
foggy iron
solemn bay
solemn bay
spare sentinel
lost pike
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We're pretty sure they did the stealing.

eager light
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didn't lava use a paid asset for those sprite ( talent sprite) ? maybe they bought it as well

mint coral
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fortnite

pulsar harness
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I hope im not the only one that has this.

golden ivy
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I have a detachable penis so I sometimes put one in a case like that

golden ivy
earnest spire
foggy iron
brazen basalt
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what is rep speed in idle skilling?

sharp ore
wild herald
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No

exotic fern
foggy iron
sturdy temple
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How do you make it so that when you log out of something that you have multiple tabs open in, it doesn't log you out of all of them and just logs you out of the one tab

neat lily
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Wow doordash be racist now. ||its a joke||

amber iris
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@cobalt kite sup fellow Idleoner . Wanted to ask how you fare so far^^

foggy iron
wild herald
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What

foggy iron
exotic fern
analog garden
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Hello

covert needle
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!decks

gloomy doveBOT
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🚫 Stressed by a Mountain of Books, that command is disabled in this channel.

vital sparrow
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!guilds

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@foggy iron insanely cool nyx man

analog garden
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OwO UWU OWO OWo

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nuzzle

placid escarp
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Don't be offensive to people please thankyou

golden ivy
woven otter
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thoughts on this thumbnail?

high idol
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Use the idleon font instead of (what I presume to be) arial

foggy iron
hardy trench
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this enough for IdleOn?

solemn bay
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Excessively enough

earnest spire
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Fuck

earnest spire
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Ur too late

golden ivy
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b

earnest spire
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U already posted this anyway

golden ivy
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i forgor

earnest spire
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Skill issue

golden ivy
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Fuck you.

late ferry
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Idk why Im still here

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Didnt play since 3yrs

amber iris
tepid turtle
sharp meadow
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what are yall's thoughts on people who somehow get annoyed by pings
like just standard conversation pings
not spam or ghost

steep coral
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Slur slinging

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Heathen

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Wdym

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Oh right

brittle marten
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i like making games what sort of game should i make?

foggy iron
wild herald
shy grove
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wait, you cant breathe water?

wild herald
golden ivy
patent berry
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!gear

gloomy doveBOT
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Gear Recommendations
solemn bay
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This good

mossy flume
solemn bay
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Booba

mossy flume
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Nsfw 😡😡😡

solemn bay
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Won't show it to my wife that's for sure

mossy flume
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Huh

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Is this reffering to the rule stating parents

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💀💀💀💀

summer zinc
hardy trench
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Can't post in fan art so

foggy iron
primal raven
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@blissful ocean @graceful bridge
see a very easy question I can propose is just
"well what is endgame"

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or even before that, what is the current goal in the game

graceful bridge
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gamification isn't the goal of THE game

primal raven
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and as you answer that you can see why gamification is kinda lacking in strategy

graceful bridge
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it's just a step

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vertical or linear, but just a step

primal raven
graceful bridge
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I don't really have answer, I'm like ~10 days old player in this game xd

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reach end world?

blissful ocean
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but gamification should give you an idea of what is the goal, shouldn't it?

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even if you just got started

primal raven
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I mean, it's still fine, cus as you answer it, the idea becomes that your step doesn't align with another's step

graceful bridge
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no, not really

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gamification can be "get a pet from w1" in w5

primal raven
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so applying it to an entity becomes well, lacking in strategy

blissful ocean
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but we're talking about people stuck in w1

graceful bridge
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oh

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well, we can't talk about "what's endgame" and "people stuck in w1" at the same time

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pick one for starters

blissful ocean
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seems kinda the same convo, ideally a game is developed so that you either "finish it" or "continue playing it" for the "content" it provides - which should ideally be entertaining

graceful bridge
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ah, I see your point

blissful ocean
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open world learning allows for deviation from "main questing" and "learning" in the path is what gamification seems to be to me

graceful bridge
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I do belive that has nothing to do with gamification, but with art

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some people are just not going to play game with pixel art

blissful ocean
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it shouldn't be a wall that you decide something that the rest didn't because in the end you'll both get to the same place

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that's why balancing is so difficult

graceful bridge
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but they'll open it/test it = be stuck in w1

blissful ocean
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and people just want things "now" nowadays

blissful ocean
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you just need a lead which is the "gamification"

blissful ocean
# graceful bridge but they'll open it/test it = be stuck in w1

I think the reading into the npc's text lines are quite clear on two things, they're there to be read and they tell you "just flow with it". But I also saw a comment in gen-chat recently that said, this game punishes you for your mistakes. Aka not being able to delete chars or respec easily

graceful bridge
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you're going way too deep into it

blissful ocean
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how's so

primal raven
blissful ocean
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this is one of the most complex games I've seen

primal raven
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I'll be honest, the design seems complex, but the actual goal is pretty simple

graceful bridge
blissful ocean
primal raven
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ehh, not exactly my point, I'm more referring to how you don't exactly have to get "x" to meet a certain goal

graceful bridge
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and, again, that has nothing to do with gamification in general

primal raven
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and some of these "screw ups" kinda go back into balancing

graceful bridge
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gamification is "get x to meet the goal"

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I can agree with that

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balancing is whole other topic

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but you can't just say that gamification "do X to meet END goal"

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it just doesn't work like that

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for example check WoW ulduar achievements

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they are progressive, one by one, you need to do one by one

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some even multiple times

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some even with a few other people

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and you'll get a mount that looks the same as the one you already have but diff colour

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even that made people run those achievements and get the mount, cuz GAMIFICATION

blissful ocean
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but in the end isn't that all to get to the next one, which is "engagement"

graceful bridge
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I'd really like to suggest if you're interested to check books by John E. Kennedy

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he has quite a few

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they are all about "customer's mind"

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for example: that's the guy who suggested to put a pepsi vendor machine next to coke vending machine and doubled both of their profits

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just cuz of customer mind works

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they had only 2 choices with coke vending machine: buy or not

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but when he introduced pepsi vending machine, they had 4 choices

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buy coke, buy pepsi, buy both, don't buy

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which got them sales up, for both drinks, it's very interesting study, and it's old almost 40 years now

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and the more options you introduce - customer is more willing to buy one, that's why we have so many options in modern games now

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imagine if you only had an option to buy a time candy or not to buy it

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but if you introduce 60 other options, people usully tend to buy SOME option

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it's giving them an option to WAGE what's good for them, or what they think it's good for them, and it goes from: "buy or no" to "buy what's better"

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it's simple as that, and, again, has nothing to do with gamification, but looks like we're going broad here 😄

primal raven
# graceful bridge they had only 2 choices with coke vending machine: buy or not

ahh that is actually a very interesting study, I actually have my own idea to this that is slightly different from the initially proposed conclusion. tldr to that is that it's actually more brand loyalty than additional choices that creates the additional demand.

Though the split between the options isn't exactly the engagement component per se; but it does feed into it, as being able to capture attention with 1 is already substantially increasing likelihood of retention; so similarly, it doesn't boil down to "what is better", and just "do I see one that is good"

blissful ocean
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in that way of thinking there's always the topic of "what I'm getting in exchange for my investment (aka money, time)"

primal raven
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but to both, that's basically what I mean in the idea that the concept of gamification is lacking in execution, cus you get devs introducing 60 tasks/options as a way to simulate this, with the end result being that it still just divides the user base into what they're loyal to

primal raven
blissful ocean
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when the choice becomes too complex, I believe, most people just get swept away by the humongous and move to simpler stuff

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we're not made for the massive amount of stimuli

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genetically wise I mean

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but if you clear a path and provide an objective gamification makes it simpler to achieve

primal raven
blissful ocean
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introducing variables in the "power of X" and simplifying it is a nice touch, but when you get to 50 dailies then somethings get dropped in the way and if you're punished with progress delay it seems that's demoralizing for people

primal raven
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yeah that's kinda the biggest challenge to gamification as well, with how everything is being introduced as a limited time thing, fomo often just turns attention to other options

blissful ocean
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following a simple initial standard path and then allowing for diverting is the way I'd go

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I made the mistake of looking into other chats or admiring end game screens, I too got overwhelmed and went looking for resources to find the "most efficient" way which seems to be quite the opposite to the "most direct"

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all in all, I think people get stuck in w1 because they can't handle the amount of variables

primal raven
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ahh, and here I am thinking this is a purely philosophical discussion

primal raven
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uhh I'll be honest

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this game is interesting

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cus while it's advertised as an idle game, it certainly does not play like one

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like it plays way more akin to an RPG, and the idle parts kinda just feed into this timer you have to manage for your next step

blissful ocean
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Everywhere, the niche is needed, expertise is also what we get from repetition. Seeing experts make complex look dumbdumb is engaging, is it not?

primal raven
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so I would think that a good part of people who get stuck in W1 also boils down to how they aren't expecting this RPG level of complexity when looking around for idle games

blissful ocean
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we all start at 1+1 or drawing circles and end up with either a profession or a hobby that makes us get up in the morning

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and what happens to you in that path is what leads you to the "end goal"

primal raven
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and I guess this kinda just go down to a point I saw being mentioned earlier, where the effort needed to learn about all these sources doesn't do well for retention when there are million other games out there that can provide a sense of achievement for less

blissful ocean
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I mean complex is fun when the pieces are manageable or you have ways of simplification, a way in which gamification works is that is tells you what to do next

primal raven
blissful ocean
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and then you get the nice shiny thingy you can wave around

primal raven
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tbh, if this is about the idea of players stuck in W1, I feel like the corporate idea to this is probably the way to go about it

that idea being, as much as you would want to see everyone make it to the end, you kinda have to just accept that it won't always be the case
and those who don't make it aren't necessarily failing to follow the game, but just are more suited to follow the pacing for another game

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and I would imagine this is kinda stems from how lava has been trying to get more people to try the game, as the play base introduced from active marketing is more likely to struggle than the play base introduced from passive marketing, and even those are more likely to struggle than the play base introduced from the loyal followers that's been following since day 1

blissful ocean
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yeah, i sense that you may be right on that, i still do think that there might be some way of providing a simpler path and a more challenging one to fill that gap (if it can be so called "gap")

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however if the by design nature is that then so be it

primal raven
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I think there can be, yes; if you do come up with this idea you should put up a bid for it

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cus that ideal is basically what every school is trying to chase

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how can you minimize this gap for the maximum population without needing to put in excessive effort to chase down every case

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that's a million dollar idea right there if you ever can come up with it

blissful ocean
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thanks for the suggestion, I'll give it some thought 😛

west stream
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LAVA say something if u see this PogPig

lofty patrol
solemn bay
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Wimturd

foggy iron
honest axle
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Is this a good roast?

sullen path
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Yall are WhereMonke 🐒

hardy trench
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@tired harbor

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been a bit

tired harbor
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Werent you gonna ask arti

hardy trench
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?

tired harbor
hardy trench
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lol

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he's gonna cry trying to color this one

tired harbor
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I would, especially if i had to do that in mspaint hahaha

hardy trench
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it's my original design with inspiration from the M82A1

elder harbor
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yo dont forget ppl. happy 7th anniversary to stardew valley

solemn bay
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May your Burden's be many and your day's few

golden ivy
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Hey what is a costume set can somebody tell me

open halo
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It makes sense

tranquil bane
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I PIZZAED THE TOWER

foggy iron
foggy iron
hardy trench
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🙈

open halo
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Like it’s changed the way I look at chess

hardy trench
open halo
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Wait

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Not like that

foggy iron
iron mist
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huh havnt been here in a bit how's the game progressing folks

foggy iron
solemn bay
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I am being touched by pirates

lofty patrol
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Destiny 2 Lightfall is out

foggy iron
frozen oyster
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!rank

gloomy doveBOT
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🚫 Ya boy Bryan, that command is disabled in this channel.

foggy iron
grizzled kelp
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Hi

sharp ore
pulsar harness
oblique flame
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bo burnhams welcome to the internet slaps

solemn bay
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I have accidentally destroyed my only ancient fruit seed

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I miss cliked

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And destroyed a fruit seed

foggy iron
foggy iron
forest plank
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I love it and I need it

foggy iron
earnest spire
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Nah man, I prompt an ai to make something simple for me and make that into art

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Dall e 2 cost me all my renders tho just to get 1 right

worldly trout
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Anyone play wild rift?

solemn bay
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Ah
Free at last

simple dirge
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which outlay looks nicer (making a catalogue of online games)

stoic apex
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i like the first and third more than the second but got no clue about design so it might just be preferencehahaha

brittle marten
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Has anyone here played hollow knight

golden ivy
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Me

woven otter
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thoughts?

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also I'm not adding damn cowbell snowbro

prime lance
golden ivy
stray grotto
woven otter
woven otter
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good?

golden ivy
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yes

woven otter
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ok thx

amber iris
haughty herald
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what

earnest spire
woven otter
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@earnest spire wdym

earnest spire
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The weapons

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Remove them

woven otter
golden ivy
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i get that this might hard to do which is why i didn’t suggest it but

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maybe show ur character killing an early game enemy with the level up icon and then the other half being an upgraded version killing a lategame mob

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with the idleon guide still at the top

earnest spire
warm seal
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how do i get perm to type in gen chat. i feel like an idiot not being able to find it

hallow prism
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Poor mods in gen chat

lusty flume
pallid nimbus
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@golden ivy Are you a waffle galaxy fan?

golden ivy
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: )

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I'm surprised nobody asked about that considering the pfp

pallid nimbus
ocean shard
pallid nimbus
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I think niche is the word

golden ivy
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so sad

vestal torrent
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!help

gloomy doveBOT
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🚫 Stuu, that command is disabled in this channel.

foggy iron
woven otter
frigid harness
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what does the trailblazer raflle do?

wooden pike
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my birthdays in 4 days

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yippee

ocean shard
hallow prism
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Man ive been watching a bit of chatgpt chess and its funny as hell

earnest spire
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Chat gpt chess is broken

broken maple
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I think Kiterra#7638's brain is set to paste a message into someone's server to annoy him/her because she pasted my message about microwave cult, then copy pasted it multiple times into 1 message, and pasted into every possible channel

patent inlet
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Nope

lusty flume
# woven otter ?

and for the mob maybe some from w5 cuz bb is fire and w5 is fire

prime lance
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It's like a day before the submissions of the vid contest. I'm curious about what yu guys expect ppl will make in the vid.

olive meadow
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Anyone with P at start of name help me with a quest please? Need to say a phrase in game

sharp ore
foggy iron
rare zinc
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does lava still update idle skilling

golden ivy
rare zinc
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i do like both games and idleon is more fun

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but if he made an update that makes the game like idleon

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it would be great

golden ivy
rare zinc
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im playing idle skilling now

golden ivy
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U cant progress any further at a certain point in IS

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Bc of overflow

golden ivy
rare zinc
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oh

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well does he make anymore games

golden ivy
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Ye hes working on idleon rn

rare zinc
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ok

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one day this game is going to die

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so enjoy while u can

golden ivy
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Every game is going to die one day

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But idleon wont die as fast as IS

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Bc it doesnt rly have a limit

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IS had a limit bc numbers were increasing so fast

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And it was rly complex

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I wouldve quit idle skilling at the beginning if i wouldntve gotten rewarded for playing it lol i think idle skilling is fun when u understand it but at the beginning it was just confusing to me bc there were so many things

rare zinc
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well thanks and have a great day

foggy iron
idle valve
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!daily

gloomy doveBOT
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🚫 Wulfie, that command is disabled in this channel.

spice rover
pallid cipher
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Bong

Dong

woven otter
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YES or ❌

solemn bay
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Why do these weird ass statue's keep appearing

shy grove
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trains.

golden ivy
golden ivy
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blood berserker vs everyone else:

runic ridge
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Oh wow she is

foggy iron
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Is she?

pure shard
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hi does anyone remember that spreadsheet about deck cards for idle skilling?

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vu4VXiqL9GkI9qOgsIBn_Znx-j_iLOCrVGUrgAJYMrQ/edit#gid=586530018 Ive got access to this one, but Idk if it was the most updated/ better, iirc there was a command for it in old idle skilling chat

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tried commands in botchat, but they have been disabled for idle skilling

lilac mesa
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bro i just got killed by f2p freeloader thing what was that

golden ivy
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a sick joke by lava

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😂

foggy iron
foggy iron
foggy iron
tepid turtle
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It does say in the link who they are by

spare vault
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What is considered an "Old-style RPG"?

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like Runescape?

drifting talon
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kinda

lime depot
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dead chat?

prime lance
chilly wind
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anyone playing other games which are grindy AF but more active?

amber iris
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Bababooey

toxic jetty
astral marten
shadow summit
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What did i learn from that

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2 things

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  1. some people are so talented they can draw hours of work in seconds
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And 2) most people are stupid, and cannot tell what a fricking radiator looks like

spare vault
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XD

rugged birch
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sakuna of rice and ruin, or rune factory 4(or 5)

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someone help

coarse loom
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GUIDE I DROPKICKD THAT ANGLER IN SELF DEFENSE

golden ivy
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well folks i just got scammed angryuganda

astral marten
foggy iron
wintry hill
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1+1= 2 amiright

glass cosmos
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Are you cheating here for your exam !?

amber iris
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No cheating, glitches is cheating

shadow summit
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it's acturally 11.5

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based off of the youtube user (don't remember name+can't find video) who wrote an entire fricking essay on why 1+1=11.5 which has truely convinced me

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that it's 11.5

shadow summit
smoky shoal
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Got I hate fucking time gated things in all games.

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So naturally I'm already mad at Baba Yaga, got in there with my archer, ready for my first noob kill, spent 11 minutes not getting stepped on and getting rid of 3/4 of their health.

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*god not got

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THEN I have to move to avoid being stepped on and when I try and click back on the boss to attack it, it turns out it is in FRONT of the portal, I cannot see the portal at all, but boy howdy, the game sure can!

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And man, obviously you WANT portals to have priority, right?!? So that was 11 minutes wasted on the boss.

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Then, the fact that I'm a fast typist fucks me trying to communicate in the game. :/

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It stores all the characters, but man it gets really confused as to the order they came in.

stuck edge
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Would you rather talk like Yoda or breathe like Darth Vader for the rest of your life

reef peak
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the issue I do not see?

foggy iron
faint sandal
smoky shoal
faint sandal
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dw one day youll be able to get ur revenge and itll be worth it

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what are your wpm if u dont mind me asking?

smoky shoal
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I mean I went back and killed it already. Patient plus ranged attacker equals victory.

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Hell, I'm not sure, I haven't timed myself in a minute.

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But probably well over 150

faint sandal
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Gotcha, you mentioned your fast typing messed you up so i was curious

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Holy moly. actually?!

smoky shoal
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But even holding myself back and not typing as fast as I can and the game chat just scrambles the letters.

faint sandal
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I hit 91 on a good day lol

smoky shoal
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Like the word 'literally' I had to retype 4 times.

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And the last 3 I actually sat there and did key by key, but not like, waiting too long between them.

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and it STILL put it in the chat as laly

faint sandal
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i see lol

smoky shoal
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Like, pushing my left pinky down first and not even TRYING to push L and it does it.

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You can clearly see here that I'm not scrambling my words, but if we were talking in game and I was typing like this ....

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It would be a game of 'unscramble the words'.

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I figured that out when I started ranting about Baba Yaga in clan chat.

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Hell, I might have slowed down now that I'm over 40. I should take another typing speed test.

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But I've been a touch typist for like 30+ years, and work in IT

faint sandal
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you should, im curious.

smoky shoal
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AND broke my teeth on MUDs which were 100% text based.

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I mean, I did cheat and use aliases and triggers sometimes. 😛

faint sandal
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thats how I feel with league lol

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sometimes you just need to get words out even if it might not make sense

smoky shoal
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Awww.

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Only 117 wpm with 99% accuracy.

faint sandal
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only

smoky shoal
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I should warm up and try again.

faint sandal
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Shoot ill be looking forward to that

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i average about 85 iirc but I dont wanna risk losing my ego if its lower !

smoky shoal
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Plus the structure of the website kinda threw me, if you got a letter wrong, it let you type it and just moved on.

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I had to kinda adjust to that and it slowed me down.

faint sandal
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yeah a lot of em do it like that its pretty weird

smoky shoal
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I'm definitely more used to the ones that count it against your accuracy but want you to put the correct one in place still.

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Meh, not getting any better.

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I take solace in the fact that it is throwing weird-ass words at me that I don't usually use and I'm still getting that speed.

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Plus they're fairly long ones, too. Not sure if it is adapting to my speed and throwing the bigger ones at me to test me or what.

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Ick, I might find another test site.

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That one isn't consistent. If you screw up on the space bar, it keeps you there until you hit space, unlike if you screw up mid-word it just puts the wrong letter and moves on to the next character.

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Or if you hit space mid-word because you got off and thought you finished, it doesn't put the space, it makes a noise and you have to hit a letter rather than space to move on.

native ocean
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code

foggy iron
acoustic shore
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Ah, so this is where we can drop our Rule 34 bait.

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But also, those fingers are a tad bit too long.

shadow summit
#

I'm acturally sick of seeing that here

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Post it somewhere else

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This aint an art channel

acoustic shore
#

We can talk about anything here so it is an art channel.

weary belfry
shadow summit
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Nah

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I have my reasons to block people

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This aint a valid one

amber iris
lost pike
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So i came up with an up to 6 step cypher.

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Am i allowed to be upset no one is able to decrypt it at step 2? Like the step that's a step from actual words?

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never even went to step 6, copy pasting into binary and/or morse is a pain.

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Well, one person solved it, once, almost in full, step 2.

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not step 3 where letters are converted, or 4 where spaces are removed, 5 is optional - key for spacing...

golden ivy
#

I lost

earnest spire
#

Damn it

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Why u gotta do me like that

radiant hinge
#

I understand that this was like, a month ago, but this literally discribes how I act, and I'm old enough to be on discord

ebon willow
#

a

broken maple
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What are the level roles?

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like ik copper

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but what are the rest and what all of these do

high bolt
#

staying open for 10 mins

acoustic sparrow
#

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hybrid escarp
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The Normandy landings were the landing operations and associated airborne operations on Tuesday, 6 June 1944 of the Allied invasion of Normandy in Operation Overlord during World War II. Codenamed Operation Neptune and often referred to as D-Day, it was the largest seaborne invasion in history.

foggy iron
shut dune
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Money is happy

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Happy is money

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Money buys happiness

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You trade happiness at a job to make money

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Happiness and money are endless loop

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Life is an endless loop.

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The universe is an endless loop.

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There is no meaning to existence except to exist, no reason except to have a reason.

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This is my conclusion.

wanton veldt
#

sad stuff when you make a support ticket for something but they don't read it. idk whats worse, them not replying or them giving an irrelevant reply and never reading it again without followup

loud latch
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@deep briar

deep briar
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yep

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how do i do that exactly?

loud latch
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gotta dimension your sketch

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"d" key is the shortcut

deep briar
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but what if i dont really have any dimensions for the sides?

loud latch
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what do you mean by that

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do you not want it to be defined?

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or are you unsure of what dimensions you want it to be?

deep briar
#

i want it to be so that i can use this to make it go around in a circle

loud latch
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uh huh

deep briar
#

so the end product would be somewhat like this

loud latch
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yeah sure

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gotta make a construction circle for that iirc

deep briar
#

how do i do that exactly

loud latch
#

sketch -> circle -> mark for construction by either pressing the button in the top of the side menu, or pressing x

deep briar
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should i make the circle before the square?

loud latch
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doesnt matter

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but id try to fully define your sketches if i were you

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which you can really easily do on your square

deep briar
#

how

loud latch
#

just give it a dimension

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press D, press the black line, pull it out, press on empty space

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should be enouigh

deep briar
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oh okay ty

loud latch
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while inside the sketch

deep briar
#

what is this number for?

loud latch
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no idea

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you using an ellipse?

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doesnt look circular to me

deep briar
#

i just tapped this button

loud latch
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why would you wanna construct a new plane?

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or are you just unsure of what it does

deep briar
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last one ye

loud latch
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ah yeah that button is to construct new planes on which you can sketch

deep briar
#

oh

deep briar
loud latch
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normal sketch

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press circle

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and mark it as "for construction"

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which you can do by pressing the X key before placing your circle

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so sketch -> circle -> X key -> place circle

deep briar
#

oh okay... i was doing it in a wrong order

loud latch
#

the pop up window while sketching should have an icon that looks something like a straight line / dotted line

deep briar
#

yeah

loud latch
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[ --- / - - - ]

deep briar
#

i got this now

loud latch
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ah, still gotta ground your square sketch

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Press D, click the blue wall, and the click it down to origin

deep briar
#

is this right?

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the 4.00

loud latch
#

fully defined!

deep briar
loud latch
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when a sketch is all black it means its fully defined

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gotta both have dimensions for the geometric shape, and have it be grounded to the origin for it to become fully defined

deep briar
#

oh okay.... that actually makes sense

loud latch
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now it should be as easy as clicking the circular pattern, marking the box as the pattern and marking the construction circle as the reference

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and then choosing how many boxes you want

deep briar
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i dont know what im doing wrong, but it wont let me select the square

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is it because its set to bodies?

loud latch
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change object type from bodies to sketch

deep briar
#

so faces?

loud latch
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aah ok wait a sec

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might have to create the circle, make the hole, and the use the hole as your "feature" isntead

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or create your wheel or whatever it is

deep briar
#

so the middle hole?

loud latch
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you wanted it to be a wheel type thing with circular pattern holes right

deep briar
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like the big one in this?

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ye

loud latch
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yeah so make your wheel by sketching up a nonconstruction circle

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extrude it

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and use your square to cut it

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and then use circular pattern on your cut-feature, and select the construction circle as your axis

deep briar
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i dont know what i did wrong here, but now i cant select the square anymore

loud latch
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you did it right

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your sketch is just hidden

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sketches become hidden once you do something with it

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should be able to find it again if you want in the left menu under sketches

deep briar
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found him

loud latch
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but you dont need it

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go into circular pattern, select features, select the cutout feature from the bottom of the screen in your history, and then select the construction circle as your axis

deep briar
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i think i gooffed up somewhere because i only got these two on the history

loud latch
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ah im guessing you did the circle and the square in the same sketch?

deep briar
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probally

loud latch
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yeah you must have

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well just undo the extrusion

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and then redo it, while making sure to mark the square for extrusion as well

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and in the extrusion menu to the right make sure that they combine into a single body

deep briar
#

i undid the extrusion, do i need to make the circle and square 2 separate sketches first, before doing it?

loud latch
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nah just do as i said earlier

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make sure to have both selected when extruding

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and make sure they are combined into a single body

deep briar
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so like this

loud latch
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yep

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now you have a whole wheel right

deep briar
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and i dont need to change anything in the menu right?

loud latch
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looks good to me

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you can double check in the left drop down menu under "bodies" to make sure you only got one

deep briar
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now it looks like this

loud latch
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aight good

deep briar
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only one ye

loud latch
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now extrude the square through the wheel

deep briar
#

soooo.... im kinda having difficulties selecting the square.... lul

loud latch
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press escape a couple of times, might be in a weird menu of some sort

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then try to click the square, and then click E

deep briar
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when im trying to select the square, it just selects the whole circle

loud latch
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hide the body

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and try again

deep briar
loud latch
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nice!

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now you should have the cut feature in your history

deep briar
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omg its working 😄

loud latch
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yep

deep briar
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thank you so much ❤️

loud latch
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no problem!

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happy to help

deep briar
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😄

polar zealot
#

!guide

gloomy doveBOT
polar zealot
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!fullguide

gloomy doveBOT
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🚫 Alatreon, that command is disabled in this channel.

hardy trench
#

is coming

smoky shoal
#

Jesus christ this game has so many 'fuck the players' capabilities.

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I just lost however many diamonds you get rewarded for reaching the top of the tree in zone 1 for the first time.

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They spawn in front of the portal, and I guess there's like a 50/50 chance to what the game things you're clicking when you click a ground drop in front of a portal?

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Because I clicked the damned diamond and BAM left the room

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Of course, you don't auto-pick up items when that happens soooooo

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I mean, the game's 'easy' achievements currently are only held by 19% of the people who tried the game for a reason.

foggy iron
desert prawn
golden ivy
surreal quest
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damn

zinc basin
#

Dunno where else to ask this so I will fire it in here. I am trying to get the Idleon idleskilling crossover item for reaching TeeHee in idle skilling and I know I have seen folk with the trophy already but I am stumped on how to get there. Feel like I been trying to get this for AGES and the furthest I am in Incarnate 19. Seemed ok till I looked on the wiki then seen I still got nearly 80 to go.

Anyone got any tips for getting through?

jovial thistle
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Here is a picture for my Roblox game.
What do you guys/girls think?

golden ivy
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I like lolis

foggy iron
hybrid escarp
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The reason my pfp is like this is because I lost a bet and meny outhers and I'm not proud of myself

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I originally was a FNAF 4 plush bear hints the name littleshizbear

radiant hinge
#

So pokemon and lions am I right

wooden steppe
#

All phones have planned obsolesces because phone contracts are either 1 or 2 years not longer. What starts dying around that age? you guessed it the battery.

somber fable
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Not every industry is just phones

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Apple is probably doing it out of greed but a lot of general appliances arn't

strange harness
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Any planned obsolescence is to break it early so you buy more

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Literally what it does

somber fable
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Yes but a lot of claims of planned obsolescence is just companies prioritizing efficiency over lifespan

strange harness
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Again, you are blindly listening to the seller

somber fable
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apple is not one of them because they literally never talk about efficency or anything related to that

wooden steppe
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lol

somber fable
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from decades ago

strange harness
#

From the company

somber fable
#

companies are not literally changing the past

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these companies are long dead

strange harness
#

No you just keep believing them

wooden steppe
#

apple is not a company that dabbles in planned obsolescence?

somber fable
#

do you not understand these are literally 40-50 year old companies

wooden steppe
#

is that what you are saying?

somber fable
#

apple is probably doing it but most appliances arn't

nova spindle
#

It is though. Theyve been fined for that here in the Eu for that

somber fable
#

apple doesn't even advertise efficiency so why bring it up

wooden steppe
# somber fable these companies are long dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7mSXMruEo This is a good one about how car company's from quite a while ago shaped the world and that what they changed is deemed as common and normal right now.

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strange harness
#

Any planned obsolescence is to kill the product early. None of that had to go with efficiency

nova spindle
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Not just bikes, les goo

somber fable
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and ofc trucks are unefficent

nova spindle
#

This is a great example on companies making cars less durable and efficient over time

somber fable
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What is the point here???

strange harness
#

This isn’t a tech discussion 🤡🤡

wooden steppe
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Mostly for things that don't need it

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like a toaster

somber fable
nova spindle
#

All printers that require proprietary cartridges is also planned obsolescence, because if you cant repair or refill with other ink, your printer is tied to the company not going into bankrupcy

strange harness
#

You’re in clown territory now boy

wooden steppe
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No doesn't mean when the company dies. But they can be like oh isn't making as much money anymore not worth it drop it. planned

somber fable
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Planned Obsolesce is defined as deliberately selling a product to a consumer who thinks it will last longer than it does

strange harness
#

No

somber fable
#

ITS LITERALLY THE DEFINITION

wooden steppe
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a policy of producing consumer goods that rapidly become obsolete and so require replacing, achieved by frequent changes in design, termination of the supply of spare parts, and the use of non-durable materials.

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and what does apple do?

somber fable
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im confused do you not know what planned obsolescence is

strange harness
#

Actually even that definition literally breaks your argument

wooden steppe
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it's literally defined here..

somber fable
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It literally requires you to still have the company left to sell new models, and parts

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It's part of the DEFINITION of the word

strange harness
somber fable
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No one planned obsolescence's products for AFTER THEY GO OUT OF BUISNESS

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that makes no sense they make no money????

wooden steppe
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Are you serious?

somber fable
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if you mean purposely creating shell companies or creating products and running away with the money without the service that's scamming

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read your definition again

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IT requires the company to be around to actually sell another product

strange harness
#

@somber fable do you have an iPhone?

somber fable
#

No

strange harness
#

Samsung?

somber fable
#

You are confusing 2 different things

strange harness
#

What kinda phone you got aura

somber fable
#

Pixel

strange harness
#

How long do you expect it to last for the amount of money you paid for it?

somber fable
#

phones are like the only industry you know that is doing this

strange harness
#

No

somber fable
#

you have no space to argue other than one industry

strange harness
#

You’re literally just blind to it

wooden steppe
#

Phones don't fundamentally change over time they chose to drop the support they had planned from the start. Like we will support it for 5 years and no longer before the phone existed. That is planned obsolesces. There is no reason to do this other then profits. Let's talk about windows It has so many configuration that are constantly requiring updates, but a phone doesn't need to do that. And so many windows version were free to update.

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The reason i talk about phones is because it's the easiest and most documented one.

somber fable
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I said Iphones are likely commiting planned obsolence

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at THE VERY BEGINNNING

wooden steppe
#

what specifically for electronic.

somber fable
#

microwaves

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dishwashers

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air conditioners

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laundry machines

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fridges

strange harness
somber fable
#

I'm so confused where your position is. You keep pushing iPhone as planned obsolescence which I said they probably were at the very start. But this claim was made originally about electronics in general

nova spindle
strange harness
#

Books are as well

wooden steppe
#

planned obsolences also goes hand in hand with new technology. Need that new shiny thing even thought it's only slightly beter and you won't notice most of the time. Most of the planned obsolences things are hidden beneat conveniences, why would i need a microwave with wifi so i can see the timer count down from further away. This makes it more complicated.

nova spindle
strange harness
#

Low quality clothes material

somber fable
strange harness
#

Cars and electronics being made unrepairable

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The list goes on and on

nova spindle
somber fable
#

There's literally a difference between incandescent and LED lightbulbs

strange harness
#

Crazy

wooden steppe
#

Have you noticed things don't last as long anymore and you say that efficiency related and i say it's planned obsolescence

somber fable
nova spindle
#

Also, it was one way to decrease the lifespan. Make the lightbulb get more voltage with the same filament. They shine brighter and they last not as much

somber fable
#

it's just how the physics works

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I don't understand how this is hard to understand

wooden steppe
#

But why do you think companys go that route?

somber fable
#

we changed because it used a ton of energy

strange harness
#

You don’t understand the LEDs is the NEW technology that lasts LESS time

somber fable
#

you can literally go measure the difference in consumption

somber fable
strange harness
#

It’s not physics is a money grabber

somber fable
#

this is the thing your saying

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your arguing against physics

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literally thats it

wooden steppe
strange harness
#

You can but the companies won’t because they want your money

somber fable
#

why not make it last longer

nova spindle
wooden steppe
#

IF ones last 10 years and the other 1 year but the other is only 10% of the energy consumption is the same

somber fable
#

ask the light bulb

strange harness
nova spindle
strange harness
#

That’s how it works?

somber fable
#

It's literally 2 different kinds of material

strange harness
#

You don’t know what you’re talking about, aura

somber fable
#

they use different technology that prioritize different things

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you can't literally just make it last longer

strange harness
#

Can you fix your typo?

wooden steppe
#

led vs led?

somber fable
#

gimme a break I'm trying to type against 3 people

strange harness
#

You don’t win arguments by rushing and not thinking

somber fable
#

That's not even an argument anymore

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your just attacking a spelling mistake

strange harness
#

LEDs probably could last longer if they were engineered to do so

somber fable
#

I don't know what else I need to prove

strange harness
#

If you believe companies cared about efficiency they would just perfect incandescent bulbs

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They already last about 100 years when they were made

somber fable
#

Go ask why they made electric stoves instead of the rugged gas stove

wooden steppe
#

I think they just scale poorly to higher voltage

somber fable
#

that lasted forever

nova spindle
# somber fable YOU CAN'T

You can. The problem lighbulb companies had was that their product was too long lasting and efficient, so people werent buying as many. If you make the the filament thinner, lightbulbs last a lot less, which creats an artificial demand for lightbulbs, since they're always not lasting

somber fable
#

I wonder why did they stop making the stoves that last forever instead of the one that breaks down

#

is it because electric stoves are somehow a ploy to sell worse stoves to you

strange harness
somber fable
strange harness
#

Holy shit that’s what we’ve been saying

nova spindle
somber fable
#

maybe go back to campfires

somber fable
#

do you not understand thats why cars run on gas

strange harness
#

That’s just wrong

somber fable
#

and not electricity

#

??????

wooden steppe
#

What car gas and gas for stoves are not the same

somber fable
#

why do you think a gas car has more millage and electricty

strange harness
#

Cars run on gas because battery technology isn’t as good as an internal combustion chamber motor

nova spindle
#

Becaude its a liquid

wooden steppe
#

because it burns more efficiently for the size it occupies?

nova spindle
#

Its far denser than methane

somber fable
#

yes because its easier to transfer

#

so how would electricity be easier to transfer than gas

strange harness
#

No

#

Because electricity literally takes 2 wires lmfao

nova spindle
wooden steppe
#

let's run my house on gas has said no one ever.

somber fable
#

?????????

wooden steppe
#

electricity is the easiest thing to transport though

somber fable
#

and doesn't need decades of infrastructure

#

and why third world countries love using electricty rather than gas

#

are you guys sheltered?

strange harness
#

To use gas you need to have trucks bring gas to the station and fill it, and then use a pump to put it in your gas tank, which takes a pump to put it through to your fuel rails, which takes an injector to place it on the chamber. With electric you only need 3 wires

nova spindle
wooden steppe
somber fable
nova spindle
#

Batteries take too much space and weight, even with our current technologies, but electric cables and generators are easy to setup

wooden steppe
somber fable
#

i mean come on right?

#

just plug it in

nova spindle
strange harness
#

Well they certainly don’t use gas instead

somber fable
#

our system of electricity is perfect

wooden steppe
#

the up front cost is higher then gas cars. Also try driving a gas car on the moon but a electric car can manage.

somber fable
nova spindle
somber fable
strange harness
somber fable
#

go find solar pannels in sudan

nova spindle
#

What do the generators generate, lmao

somber fable
#

so that you HAVE A GPS

strange harness
#

Wrong

nova spindle
#

No they dont

strange harness
#

Completely wrong again

somber fable
#

you have electronics in your gas car

strange harness
#

They generate heat and thrust

somber fable
#

you seriously are going off the deep end

#

you think your gps runs on thrust???

strange harness
#

Yes

nova spindle
somber fable
strange harness
#

The alternator is an accessory that converts the trust from the crank into electricity, 14.4 volts to be exact

somber fable
#

if you are going for electricty anyways

#

why keep the gas

wooden steppe
#

What was the argument again i have lost it.

nova spindle
#

Because for storage its better. Not transfer

somber fable
strange harness
#

Well first of all you have to generate electricity, and then you have to be able to store enough for it to be useful

somber fable
#

are you trying to run a cable with electricity from one continent to the next

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to power countries?

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???

strange harness
#

How do you think you use the internet right now?

wooden steppe
#

Countries share power and buy from each other.

somber fable
#

thats not electricity

#

internet isn't power

wooden steppe
#

Through super thick super efficient cables.

somber fable
#

how is that hard to understand

nova spindle
#

My country literally imports more electricity than ot exports

somber fable
#

these are basic concepts

strange harness
#

You have no critical thinking

somber fable
strange harness
#

They run cables transatlantic for power and internet

somber fable
strange harness
#

No

#

They run power too

somber fable
#

they don't run a power cable from europe to america

wooden steppe
somber fable
#

theres a reason theres a shortage for gas in the eu

strange harness
#

Because gas is hard to transfer

wooden steppe
somber fable
nova spindle
wooden steppe
#

and all gas was already purchased for

somber fable
#

instead of buying gas from russia

#

why not just transfer all the electricty from the us

#

it's just easier

strange harness
#

Dude you’ve flip flopped on 3 separate points now

somber fable
#

the cables up

#

and why not

somber fable
strange harness
#

You’re delusional

somber fable
#

it's literally a basic point

#

that electricity is not easier to transfer than gas

strange harness
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Again, refer to my entire explanation from earlier

somber fable
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you mean the underwater cable

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that we use to power all of the eus electricity

wooden steppe
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A whole other country will not have so much exess power to sell energy energy to power another country. But with gas they can because storage of gas (what we already said) is way easier so it's doable.

somber fable
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instead of buying russian gas

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why are the germans even investing in green

strange harness
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I can talk to the EU on the internet in less than a 10th of a second, it takes days to cargo over gas to the EU

somber fable
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just build power cables

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it all makes sense

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just think about it

nova spindle
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I would say a huge problem of gas is also that its limited. No matter what you think, electricity is the future way to power stuff

somber fable
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the farther you go the more you separate from reality

wooden steppe
# somber fable just build power cables

But why would you want to sell power to another country permanently? The only reason we use gass is because not every country has the gas deposits for it. but with energy it's possible.

somber fable
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Yes

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Thats the problem

somber fable
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im done

wooden steppe
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the contracts are pretty long

somber fable
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they arn't doing it

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the pipe is broken

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you guys don't know any events

wooden steppe
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what is broken?

somber fable
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nord strom

wooden steppe
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they were forced to shut it down

strange harness
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Do you only get your information of the news companies? Lol

somber fable
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its history

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its things that have happened

wooden steppe
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and even then aren't there 2 or 3 piped in the fyord? near norway.

nova spindle
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Yeah, also uk makes a lot of gas

somber fable
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the deal is dead in the water with that pipe

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if it was enough they wouldn't have tried to build a second

strange harness
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Next thing you know aura is going to claim recycling works and solar panels are amazing

nova spindle
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Well, russia shouldnt have invaded ig

somber fable
strange harness
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Yeah they suck

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News flash

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Solar panels are extremely inefficient and kill the environment

nova spindle
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Coal is horrible. Its 10x more radioactive than a nuclear power plant. Really? Coal?

nova spindle
somber fable
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its fine this conversation is a mess

somber fable
strange harness
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I think you need to do more research on the matter

somber fable
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nuclear is fine btw but solar pannels are not bad

strange harness
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Nuclear is the best source of power we have

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Solar panels are horrible lol

somber fable
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they do cause waste when they break but we have been increasing are recycling of them forever

nova spindle
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Solar panels are pretty great. Nuclear is the best bandaid for climate change for now

somber fable
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how are solar pannels horrible?

strange harness
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Recycling causes more waste than it saves. It’s a scam.

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If you think recycling works you’ve never look into the process.

somber fable
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this is the weirdest take

wooden steppe
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well solar can beat coal efficiency given enough time.

somber fable
wooden steppe
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coal is about 40%

somber fable
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it's just way less cost effective

nova spindle
wooden steppe
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solar is about 15-20%

nova spindle
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About 99% of the aluminum you use is recycled

wooden steppe
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I don't count in lab tests because that is just rigged to be impossible to reach in the real world.

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It does show a rise in efficiency though

somber fable
strange harness
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2 good material output doesn’t make the entire system good

somber fable
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I'm still so confused how are you anti solar panel

wooden steppe
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I love solar but we need a clear recycling program.

nova spindle
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Yeah, are you against wind too?

strange harness
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wooden steppe
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in short term it's only amazing stuff free gains, but in the long term no.

strange harness
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Obviously not lmao

somber fable
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It's considerably lower than pumping gas into the atmosphere

nova spindle
strange harness
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No wind sucks too

nova spindle
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What. Are you american perhaps?

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Like, ive only seen americans say that

wooden steppe
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We have been using wind for thousands of years. or at least 1000 years.

somber fable
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I'm going to sleep good night

strange harness
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Research the affects of wind turbine farms on the environment

wooden steppe
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I feel the big problem with solar and wind is storage

nova spindle
somber fable
strange harness
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Birbs are PinchyPic important

nova spindle
strange harness
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Agreed

wooden steppe
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Yea but it's much more interment ed then the other power sources. it's a clear down side new battery's cannot come fast enough.

strange harness
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If efficiency + environmental was the most important nuclear is a no brainer to invest in to perfect until renewable catches up

wooden steppe
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Yea to bad politics suck..

strange harness
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Because I’m not saying it can’t be better but it just isn’t yet

wooden steppe
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they take to long to build so won't get enough support. the terms are shorter then build times so pushing it through multiple terms is hard.,

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and people hate nuclear to much for what it is worth

strange harness
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And then when wind turbines inevitably blow that’s a whole other can of worms

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What a messy convo lol

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strange harness
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@tulip ravine this lookin kinda sus

tulip ravine
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strange spruceBOT
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hazy heron
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Uhhhh. Any furries play this game pretty actively? uwu

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