lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[lofty kindle]

lmao

[normal lagoon]

Oh wait hold up, +2% Tachyon gain on a ring too :O

still going through the inventory full of garbage

[lofty kindle]

Does anyone know how well these kinds of bubbles scale with prisma?

[spare dagger]

to get sushi station currency do I need to have a char on that map or something?

havent gotten any all afternoon and have no idea why, supposed to get 4m/h

[loud cloak]

Smarter spells has a max of 25, so can't hurt to prisma if you want it to be a theoretical 50

[undone oar]

But how....

[normal lagoon]

The fact they're not on the tier list makes me think not very

[normal lagoon]

Not in Lab???

[undone oar]

No?

[lofty kindle]

My prisma multi is >3x, so it'd be 75%, but I'm not sure if it would actually make a large difference in damage

[echo crag]

would need to check if shadow capped, else go poke in #endgame-gen-chat

[normal lagoon]

(Goharut for free gains)

[undone oar]

It also does not get any exp or points

[undone oar]

Oh right, that's what you meant....

I forgor

[normal lagoon]

could just be a weird visual glitch

Oh wait @undone oar, do you have Mindful on that SB?

Like instead of TranQi on accident

[undone oar]

All are mindful

[normal lagoon]

that's why, it's just showing you the div pts you would gain if all 10 were praying

[undone oar]

But I meant it shows points/h even though it's not in div

[normal lagoon]

[undone oar]

Oh really?

[normal lagoon]

I assume, idk, I usually have everyone on TranQi unless they're actively in lab

Since, y'know, TranQi's the only one that can be used outside of Lab/Div

[loud cloak]

What makes DK better at farming statues than ES?

[undone oar]

Orb makes drop tables of crystals roll multiple times meaning more rewards

ES would only boost DR for drops on the mobs you kill from portal and not crystals you kill

[loud cloak]

Ahhh

It's the crystals. gotcha

[undone oar]

Yeah, the crystals is what gives you your statues

[echo crag]

dk pratically print statue at this point

[undone oar]

EXCEPT in w3

[loud cloak]

Welp, if I get bored of my ES and AC, ill try to invest in my DK

[undone oar]

DK is important because construction

[loud cloak]

My construction is kinda nuts due to having it set up right for years

[fallow shell]

guys, where do you leave your 2nd DK and ES? OR where should I leave them lol

[undone oar]

xd you'll also have too little speed

[loud cloak]

I'm at 87.4 Million?

[undone oar]

I have Q and it's too little

[loud cloak]

Oh darn

Welp, it'll scale once I reach w7 (I hope)

[lofty kindle]

million speed after years?

[loud cloak]

Ehh, I neglect alchemy

And printing

[lofty kindle]

But that's construction

[loud cloak]

Years of not playing the game mind you

I had everything mining deep ores for years

Came back couple months ago

[lofty kindle]

Still, a couple of months is enough to boost construction more than just millions

[loud cloak]

What ways to boost it proper?

Cuz I dunno

[undone oar]

[lofty kindle]

Summoning has a ton of build speed

[loud cloak]

I unlocked construction mastery today in the rift

[undone oar]

Everything else is maxed

[knotty sphinx]

Is this essence bonus noted somewhere? Like the total I got from it

[loud cloak]

I do like summoning

[undone oar]

At w5 slab, yes

[echo crag]

[loud cloak]

I have all my available stones beaten

[echo crag]

the exp boost from button is nice

[lofty kindle]

It should give a huge construction spd multi

[loud cloak]

I got 8x

[lofty kindle]

[lofty kindle]

Oh, have you gotten to endless summoning yet?

[loud cloak]

am at 64 of endless

I don't have access to the w7 stone

[lofty kindle]

Definitely try to push that further, as well as get as many of the summoning winner bonuses as possible, from merit shop and gem shop if possible

[loud cloak]

Merit shop done

Gem shop is next

[prime compass]

i wonder if theres a lukewarm slot in there

[lofty kindle]

I think that's the last type of slot actually

[echo crag]

yeah for now its green, red, yellow and blue slots

[lofty kindle]

Blue slots allow my board to be even more cursed

[echo crag]

now to fill those blue slot with t54

[undone oar]

:(

[lofty kindle]

I should but I'm lazy

[undone oar]

Missing 2 blue slots

[echo crag]

should at least try to make a t51-t53 so that i nthe odd chance rng god smile on you and perfecto those XD

[undone oar]

That's not how blue slots work tho

[lofty kindle]

True, tho I doubt it

[lofty kindle]

Nah, I'm just missing 51-53 in general

[undone oar]

Missing? More like they're just not there, I don't really miss them ;)

[echo crag]

you know as well as i do that when rng is invovled in this game you just throw more attempt at it even if its 0.01% chance

[strong shuttle]

this levels up so fast compared to others

[lofty kindle]

True, there's a reason my T27 and T29 are perfecto'd

[echo crag]

rng doesnt seem to favor you

[lofty kindle]

No, it definitely does not

[lofty kindle]

That's why in my minehead run yesterday, I did 7.3m against the 10m boss and then got 5 instant mines immediately after

[undone oar]

I somehow got a perfecto on my t39

And it's pretty nice for the upgrade costs

[echo crag]

i also find it funny that you got more t54 made than me, yet my t54 is higher level XD

[lofty kindle]

I only unlocked the upgrade that gives more than 1 exp per craft yesterday

after I made all my T54

[undone oar]

Real

[echo crag]

was glad to be high level already for that one

[lofty kindle]

Hell, I got all my T54 before I had fuel capacity 4

[strong shuttle]

how long does it take to lv 50 sushi after getting east wind ? :D

[lofty kindle]

Depends on how hard you feel like going

[echo crag]

and how far you gotten before hand

[strong shuttle]

lv 27

[lofty kindle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I got from 29 to 50 in like 15 hours?

[echo crag]

probably a day of merging if you no life it

[strong shuttle]

jeebus

[echo crag]

but that is pretty painfull

[lofty kindle]

But I did take a few breaks during that

[granite owl]

Surely......

[lofty kindle]

I got T50 on day 1 tho, it wasn't too bad

[echo crag]

you also need to reset the game every so often when making sushi like that

[strong shuttle]

i still dont know how to work the wind properly, since people can just cascade for hours

i kinda run out of fuel quick

[granite owl]

same

[verbal acorn]

i need.. level 49 research..

but i'm so far away now

[lofty kindle]

That's why the sushi that you cook is the one you can afford, not the highest you can make?

[verbal acorn]

i've seen huge amounts of research xp but i've been stuck on research 30s

[strong shuttle]

so i would be merging lv 15 down ?

[echo crag]

you want one that you can basically fill your board and where by the time your done merging it you will be back to about same lvl of fuel

[lofty kindle]

^^^

[granite owl]

YAYAYAYYA I HATE THESE STATUES WITH A PASSION

[echo crag]

like atm to make my t54 i use t27-t28

[lofty kindle]

If you can fill your entire board with 15 without running out of fuel, then use that, if you run out of fuel, maybe drop to 14 or 13

[lofty kindle]

Same, tho I probably need to bump mine up to 29-30

[echo crag]

i can do it with t29 but i'll eventually run out of fuel

and i use all but 1 fire on red when mergin

[strong shuttle]

ok i can fill entire board with 13s lets say, and then i make 1 of each sushi above that lv ?

[near summit]

The sooner u get to c12 (was that the 5th villager again) the better (for bravery mostly)

[echo crag]

heres my current board to give an exemple

[lofty kindle]

Just cascade from T13s all the way up

[echo crag]

so to get the train going i would start to merge in 1 t29 and move from there

[strong shuttle]

aaa so you never actually make higher sushi, but get it by combining

[verbal acorn]

do these fireplaces boost the entire column or just the sushi above it?

[strong shuttle]

now that makes more sense

[lofty kindle]

Yeah, pretty much

[echo crag]

and every time you discover a new sushi east wind allow you to lvl up 1 more sushi

[strong shuttle]

ye ye 6lvs bellow max

[echo crag]

and as you discover more sushi your buck/hour will also increase allowing you to upgrade more

like with my board i can make 2 train worth in 1 refill

[dire seal]

tf happened to DR? i lost about 20% today.

i had more than 500 and now its 434

[lofty kindle]

Were you on a map with AC crystal?

[polar sparrow]

Swap characters back and forth and do the gallery dance

[dire seal]

nono, its my DK

and i farmed on him yesterday

i definetly didnt change any DR bonuses

[lofty kindle]

Right, but if you were on Rams, and your AC crystal on Rams is 1.2x DR, then even on DK, it'll show higher

[dire seal]

oooh, i dont have AC crystals yet i guess, even on shrooms its 1x last time i checked

[quasi perch]

click codfrey and switch maps

[dire seal]

so i guess ididnt get its bonus yet

[granite owl]

I just saw a weird ring in the catching minigame that was like stone ish?

[simple wadi]

The entire column above it.

[lofty kindle]

Have you not touched AC at all?

[strong shuttle]

i also went from 530 to 490 and idk why

[simple wadi]

Check your sushi and then cloud save.

[vale wedge]

chat how do you the emperor ribbons fast

[bleak gazelle]

get more DR

[dark pike]

do you remember what was making all the shrines active for all the worlds from anywhere

[bleak gazelle]

you get global effects from sailing artifact

[dark pike]

ah

[bleak gazelle]

you get global level up from legend talent
you get world-wide level up (and effects) from lab node if they're in town

[lethal mural]

acecow you should've been ehre earlier when the weirdos were

[bleak gazelle]

what, shokeen and whatnot? i saw some of it posted around

[lethal mural]

YEAH BY ME

[strong shuttle]

where would i start like this ?

[dire seal]

in dreams

[bold merlin]

@normal lagoon i am getting scared now

[normal lagoon]

Also that's a LOT of stam, should have dumped a bit more on some pink before using red pots

[bold merlin]

i should get next rope
-# if i can get it

[bold merlin]

fuk i forgot

i can manually dump my stamina

[normal lagoon]

I usually do it around 240 cuz my end is 300ish

I was told ~75-80% of your stam dumped at around the 75~80% mark

[bold merlin]

i used amber pot at 245

i think i am cooked now

[normal lagoon]

Never cooked unless you run out of stam or no hole and Oops! All Pink

[sonic rivet]

hm showdowns for yall to get emperor wings? last piece i need in the emperor set

[bold merlin]

should i

[normal lagoon]

Need more DR

[sonic rivet]

sitting at 266x dr rn

[bold merlin]

polar should i go more

[dire cedar]

heres my board lol

[crude plinth]

Anyone interested in doing a quick happy hour right now?

[normal lagoon]

Up to you, you feeling lucky?

[round dirge]

does kruks bubbles apply the specified level to all bubbles listed?

[normal lagoon]

Get new bubbles? That's effectively a "total mult" to Kruk when you think about it

[round dirge]

oh wow, so the zenith unlocks for more bubbles is pretty OP

[deft pike]

This order hurts my brain. You should be ashamed

[normal lagoon]

The first 3 are very good. #4 and 5 is mid

[dire cedar]

lmao critical hit

[normal lagoon]

In order: LUK base stat bubble > Construction EXP > LAAARRRRYYYY (more bubble levels when you upg) > Trapping Efficiency > Anvil Production Speed

You eventually want all 5/5, but 3 is the main focus, 4 is okay, and 5 is kinda useless by the time you get it, though it's neat seeing your speed hit ridiculous levels

[forest chasm]

im very confused for WW masterclass becuase im in w4 and it says i need one more abomination kill to get into w5 but ive killed all abominations up to this point

[normal lagoon]

W2, the fishing dock?

[deft pike]

Post your compass and we can look

[dire cedar]

what're these supposed to be lol not sure if there's a guide up in pins yet showing all the things here

[crude plinth]

They're all on Toolbox

[forest chasm]

thanks i didnt know there was one there

[dire cedar]

thats so fkin true i dont know why i keep forgetting good lookin out

[normal lagoon]

I think most of us hit that point and then we either ask or realize there's a gap in the Abom upgrades in compass

[forest chasm]

cheers tho

[dire seal]

wait, where is shokeen? he is muted

didnt see him for a while

did he say something bad or?

[dire cedar]

lmao my next one is fuel speed damn now i wish i didnt know what was next. kinda sad i dont have it yet 🙁 would really make my merging a lot easier

[frigid shore]

Wich stamp is a priority for being exalted first?

[bold merlin]

@normal lagoon i got out with this

[normal lagoon]

Buuuuuuuuuuut... what if you went deeper

[dire cedar]

god damn thats a lot of amber

[normal lagoon]

That'll at least push you to QQ though and then double for BH

[bold merlin]

i wanted to go to 300

but was too scared

and the i saw first object at 178 first time cant get discovery

[bold merlin]

i will remeber to dump my stamina next time

[dire cedar]

dont i need to have qqq to kill the boss here? idk if i should go in with that one exiler for 10x damage or do runs for grand discoveries

[bold merlin]

12qqq

[quasi perch]

11

[lethal mural]

like 4qq or some shit

[bold merlin]

for boss

nah

that was for previous one i think

[lethal mural]

glitterend?

4qq sounds right

[dire cedar]

gross

[bold merlin]

🤔

[quasi perch]

vault made me a bubba gamer

[lethal mural]

like 20qqq or something

[bold merlin]

that what i said

[quasi perch]

undershot heavily but used some bubba slices

[lethal mural]

you said 12 we were both off horribly

[bold merlin]

12 for boss

[dire seal]

or you were?

[lethal mural]

um this says 20

[bold merlin]

20 or 30 for first amber run

[dire cedar]

lmao my grand discoveries are depressing

[fathom chasm]

What comes after this?

[bold merlin]

can do with 12qqq with heart potion

[lethal mural]

can do 1 pow with good rng that's a horrible argument

[bold merlin]

rng

[lethal mural]

the 20qqq is so you don't get fucked up the ass with rng

[bold merlin]

ok

[lethal mural]

the potion loadout that they reccomend 20qqq with still uses heart potion

I have no clue why you push 12 so hard

[bold merlin]

i did with 16 and my one friend did with 11 so that why i am saying

like scout is possible with 5e24 with rng

[fathom chasm]

Its up to rng you can have 30qqq and still dont get it

[bold merlin]

thats is ur bad luck

[lethal mural]

Like I said youc an do it with 1 pow that doesn't make it a good argument

[bold merlin]

the green one or red

[lethal mural]

I could tell your your alchemy being bad is your bad luck for not hitting kruk stamp 8 times like some people

that's just not true however

[bold merlin]

ok u are right i dont wanna argu

[dire cedar]

lmao i was wondering why yall were arguing anyways

[bold merlin]

i just want to sleep now

@echo crag got some p's

[round dirge]

is there a 'best map' for luckiest lad drop?

[bold merlin]

and this 31 did not hit anytime

[dire cedar]

is this good enough to start getting grand discoveries cuz this shit is ass

[bold merlin]

did u got sushi

i think yes

[lethal mural]

you can try but it'll be rare

[bold merlin]

then upgrade zen market more

[fathom chasm]

For 4-5 yea

[fathom chasm]

And minehead bonus

[bold merlin]

[lethal mural]

purrhead isn't to bad

[nocturne patrol]

wat are these 2 upgrade ?

[fathom chasm]

If you got good rng

[bold merlin]

mc resorce and dr

[lethal mural]

I wouldn't

[bold merlin]

when using auto in gd run when does heart potion get used in starting or do we have to manully click it

[lethal mural]

I dunno I haven't auto'd it might not get used at all

[bold merlin]

[fathom chasm]

Who autos?

[bold merlin]

i do gd run tommorow with my remaining 2.7 chrs

[bold merlin]

too much clicking on pc and it is slow i usually do manually when on mobile

[normal lagoon]

Good gem day today in Pet Mart!

[oblique heron]

nou

[bold merlin]

i got mf9 how should i spam smoker

[nocturne patrol]

DR uwu

[bold merlin]

additive

[oblique heron]

when you get gift effect up a bit

[bold merlin]

1% per lv

ok

[nocturne patrol]

even 0.000001% dr is poggers

[obtuse cave]

theere are 300 total crops in farming right now, correct?

[nocturne patrol]

more dr is always poggers

[bold merlin]

mc resorce is multi

now i did amber run i can upgrade them to 100q cost

[bold merlin]

i hate how i have to win so much time before i can go to pet mart

[acoustic geyser]

damn

[dire cedar]

welcome to w5 🙂

[fathom chasm]

Why lava I already have stalker

[bold merlin]

[dire cedar]

whats it do again?

[bold merlin]

another one dont hurt

[fathom chasm]

I want neon

[bold merlin]

trade that with this

[teal sable]

yo gamers, is the chest sluggo from W5 gemshop worth it or na?

[fathom chasm]

The pet?

[bold merlin]

cant whale more

[fathom chasm]

Very not fair trade

[lament trench]

[teal sable]

will i never go above the 7 extra chests i got from the merit shop?

[fathom chasm]

35$ for 20?

[bold merlin]

everything is fair if u desperate for it

[fathom chasm]

One day it has to show up

[teal sable]

i mean people traded doots and glunkos for manta sooooo

iam sure if you convert it in $$$ thats super unfair , especially if they were more on the unlucky side

luckly thats not how it works 😊

[bold merlin]

so it does have max

[bleak gazelle]

yes, it uhh, says it right there at the top

[dire cedar]

hes flexing leav'em alone

[bold merlin]

i cant read

[magic garden]

what should i max book here for max AC gains and easiest progress, and what is not important. Im feeling the top left one is really bad

[bold merlin]

this one is still far

[magic garden]

so max the red circles, unspec the rest (lower level, not unspec fully)

[fathom chasm]

I wonder if anyone on the lb got neon in their shop

[bold merlin]

maxed

[fathom chasm]

This why I quit spelunking to many sweats

[simple wadi]

Yes.

[lethal mural]

sorry I'm not sure what to level could you possibly make an audio recording guiding me thru

[bold merlin]

feeling good maxing some bonuses

[simple wadi]

What to level for what?

[fathom chasm]

Whats your amber multi?

[bold merlin]

i did amber run at 322qq with os 20

[fathom chasm]

And you got?

Also wich cave?

[fallow pumice]

my first exalted stamp

[bold merlin]

i did not properly used amber pot

[magic garden]

Circles are too red, plz use blue circles instead - vibe

[fathom chasm]

Might be time to redo a amber run

[acoustic geyser]

Do you guys think I could get BB masterclass at 6-5?

[fathom chasm]

Got 1e24 pow and my best still like 50b

[fallow pumice]

do i do crystallin

[simple wadi]

Not sure what your height has to do with anything, but sure.

[fallow pumice]

ya

[acoustic geyser]

Bruh map

[magic garden]

6-5

[acoustic geyser]

K

[fathom chasm]

Americans man...

[fallow pumice]

whats the salt

[simple wadi]

All the DB's quest requires is to ki 92 unique enemies. Doing the colosseum from W1-W6 gets you mosst of the way.

[fathom chasm]

Wheres kruk?

[raw horizon]

I usually buy morton’s it’s available in most grocery stores

[simple wadi]

Kruk sucks unless you get a NSLB hit or two on it.

[acoustic geyser]

I think I have 96 if I get everything

[fathom chasm]

But it you get it is S tier

[fallow pumice]

nice

i just buy the cheapest salt i can find

[finite gazelle]

does the MSA something duperbit do anything?

[simple wadi]

Yeah, but straight putting it in S-tier when the majority of people only have a level 3 or 4 Kruk stamp would just make them waste an exalt on something that won't benefit them as much as other stamps.

[fallow pumice]

ya

[strong shuttle]

yesss

[fathom chasm]

Fair

[acoustic geyser]

Bro thinks I have those kinds of tickets

[simple wadi]

[fallow pumice]

is NSLB in event shop?

[simple wadi]

Sucks to suck. Guess you gotta do things the hard way.

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/ahh-dance-gif-12728768147103441313

[acoustic geyser]

Could prolly do this and the next one on like 5 char

[lament trench]

[raw horizon]

Endless summoning, event shop, or if you have sacred methods pack purchased

[strong shuttle]

is SB good at farming anything ? i wana leave him overnight

[lethal mural]

sanctum

[strong shuttle]

lv 32 already :|

[fallow pumice]

catching

[simple wadi]

Stuff in the hole.

[strong shuttle]

shrooms ?

[teal sable]

what you guys recommend from the w6 gemshop ?

[pastel kayak]

Bad @simple wadi alert sent you a message

[acoustic geyser]

Umm just bugged this, got the quest a second time after completing

[raw horizon]

Is your king of all winners maxed?

[teal sable]

nothing is maxed i just got to w6

[simple wadi]

King of all Winners x5, Plots of Land x12, Instagrow x5

[teal sable]

thanks

[pastel kayak]

Bad @strong shuttle alert sent you a message

[fervent mulch]

oh-oh

[strong shuttle]

i am not deaf, most of the times...

[thorny wave]

any1 need some keys?

[fervent mulch]

i bet my main discord has hundreds of messages wondering why i havent been on for a few days

[teal sable]

gemme a few thousand i still need to clean up w5

[fervent mulch]

nop

[lethal mural]

That has to be the most self abosrbed shit I've seen in awhile

[simple wadi]

Your friends are too shy to ask.

[fervent mulch]

thats what it is

[pastel kayak]

Mega evil bad @simple wadi alert

[simple wadi]

[pastel kayak]

Mega evil bad crazy insane mad @strong shuttle alert

[strong shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/listen-one-job-gif-12942767

[fervent mulch]

https://klipy.com/gifs/denzel-washington-relief

[iron siren]

best class(es) to push w6 on?

[fervent mulch]

db or bb should at least be 1

[amber solstice]

what kind of dr can be achieved in a normal playthrough with buying packs pre-w7, like mid w6

[lethal mural]

DK AC DB

[iron siren]

i have 1 DB and 2 DK's so ill go on those

i haven't played in like ~8 months? or so im not sure so im just warming back up

[simple wadi]

Around 200x is achievable. Endgamers had 500x and above back in W6.

[acoustic geyser]

What was ur best resource stack to come back to

[iron siren]

as in? sorry im not used to terminology rn

[simple wadi]

You only need two chrs to push W6, so DB and AC is what I suggest.

[acoustic geyser]

Like way more money or salts than you would normally have

[iron siren]

oh yeah i have alot more money, i didn't setup my salts very good but i had all rank ups either way

i did my upgrade vault of course

[iron mesa]

I shitted my pants with that fullscreen new card announce

[amber solstice]

but that was when w7 wasnt out right? if u bumrush w7 u cant get much of any dr. im still stuck at sub 6x

[fervent mulch]

its time guys

[simple wadi]

You said a normal playthrough. "Bumrushing" I wouldn't declare as normal.

[fervent mulch]

time to make sushi

[dire oracle]

the difference in exp doesn't feel worth it to me, are you guys using this? I already unlocked the final praying style

[amber solstice]

i just dont see any dr that is achievable for many months of grinding, doing hourly alchemy

[normal lagoon]

It's good early, but by the time you can craft it, you probably have Div EXP gains from elsewhere anyway

It's basically out of reach for when you'd really want it

[iron siren]

what level of gear should i aim for when rushing up to emperor?

[simple wadi]

I don't understand the question. Are you wanting to avoid W7 and act like it's still 2025?

[dire oracle]

is it the same for the lab and cooking shoes?

[amber solstice]

no, i just dont have w7 and my friend says i need giga dr to play windwalker to get enough of the upgrade stones

[normal lagoon]

No because they give Efficiency which can be pretty nice. The upgraded lab rings also being especially good on higher levels of lab due to giving %Efficiency instead of just flat

I'm not sure how the formulas work, but I've found differences with the Lab equipment, whereas Divvy Slippers (and also the W2 Alchemy ones) I've seen virtually no change, especially at my levels

[simple wadi]

Then just get to W7. Don't worry about DR for now, you'll get a ton of it in W7.

[dire oracle]

ah ok I won't trash those out of my inventory then, thanks

[normal lagoon]

But also my levels look like this

You can also super take advantage of Divination Ballot Bonus week (more for pts than EXP) or the W7 Statue Meritocracy for Div EXP

[loud cloak]

Okay main character did the leek portal, now 2 more

[normal lagoon]

1 more. VMan can use Void Run to cheat

[fervent mulch]

i wanta div week 🙁

[simple wadi]

Btw Polar, see where I'm standing? Turns out clicking the sushi station button carries the click through to the next window. Which, from where I'm standing, is the salt shaker. So now my east wind is all jacked up >>

[loud cloak]

Oof, my Vman is neglected...

[normal lagoon]

I've 100% had this convo before, I don't know with you specifically, but I've definitely brought this up

You ALWAYS want to click from the right side of the paper pile

[normal lagoon]

No need to do anything with em

If you press "Void Run" when you've cleared a portal requirement on at least one other character, VMan ALSO clears any portal requirements too, and this works for multilocks

e.g., Skydoggies is the last Multilock of W6 and it's a lock of 3.

• Clear the portal requirement on at least 1 character
• Use Void Run on VMan (you can leave Void Run early by going to the W1 Dungeon map as dungeon maps clear all buffs)
• Your lock will now be down to 1 and only needs 1 more to progress

Your VMan can be level 100 for all you care, it doesn't matter; they don't have to prog maps and can smuggle in for free.

[loud cloak]

Okay, then imma do that

[normal lagoon]

(PS: VMan should never be fighting AFK as a result, since they not only suck at it, but if you want EXP, active EXPing is significantly faster )

[idle tulip]

anyone have a mid w6 pushing card set

[buoyant schooner]

Depends on what cards you've got and the lvls

[raw horizon]

can try using the afk fighting set

[raw horizon]

unlock boops

[idle tulip]

which one is boops haha

and thank u for the cards ❤️

[raw horizon]

do you have sewers unlocked in w1?

go to dr defecus map and there should be a grate near the top right of the map, there is an invisible platform there leading to the boop map

[idle tulip]

bruhhhhh

[idle tulip]

ok give me a sec

[fickle hornet]

that looks abit expensive

[idle tulip]

uhmmm

[fickle hornet]

though very doable as I went from rank 2 to rank 9 in a day

[fickle hornet]

perhaps it leads to something

[simple wadi]

Drop this on that grate

[fickle hornet]

back when lava was creative

[idle tulip]

ohhh

yayayaya

u guys r the best ❤️

[fervent mulch]

what the frig

[strong shuttle]

looking good

[lethal mural]

why is gambit and wisdom so high bro what are we doing

[strong shuttle]

why not

[normal lagoon]

Well Wisdom is of course gonna be high when it's the middle one

[normal lagoon]

Unless you INTENTIONALLY pick the first or last, which is throwing, you're always going to study the middle cavern with Peripheral Studying.

[lethal mural]

I'm a dog den lover

[lethal mural]

Wdym it leaks over to the next page

[normal lagoon]

Wait it does?

[lethal mural]

I studied harp and got bell and wishes at the same time

[fickle hornet]

it does

[normal lagoon]

Oh what the fuck

I legit never noticed that, nvm

[strong shuttle]

yep

[normal lagoon]

Well shit I woulda done something like Bell/Harp/Lamp had I known instead of wasting so many levels on Bravery

[idle tulip]

what golden food should i get for pushing?

[loud cloak]

Oh it worked, had a great time, I'm making my Vman mostly skill afk

Even got a new speedrun high score

[strong shuttle]

optional

[idle tulip]

thank you!

[lethal mural]

that is literally the best one

[normal lagoon]

Just to remind, you don't have to do the run, but glad you got more VMan points

[strong shuttle]

arent you pushing active ?

[loud cloak]

Yeah, I put a lot of my built up passives into it, and used a visual guide

[idle tulip]

also, because now i have my elephant god linked, i get afk sailing time when i redeem afk time, do i get more than 10 treasures or is there a cap? like, if im gone for a week, is there a cap to how many times the ships will sail?

[lethal mural]

24/7? no

[loud cloak]

I'll probably get even way more points after max leveling the talent book for the speedrun

Is the multikill prayer working during a VMan speedrun?

[simple wadi]

The cap is your loot pile. Assuming you don't have the unending loot talent from SB, your ships will fill the loot pile and then each boat will hold one extra treasure at the dock until you check them.

[lethal mural]

yes of course

NOT fibers of absensce though

[idle tulip]

frick

ok

[loud cloak]

yeah, wasn't expecting the portal count/death note prayer to work

[lethal mural]

just make sure to have all for kill beefy for real and no hp prayers and you're gucci

[loud cloak]

I am still upgrading my towers to get beefy for real

I have neglected my towers and salts for a whiiiiile

[normal lagoon]

Gear and everything counts. It's not like MC Forms where it doesn't

[idle tulip]

where the heck did i get these big numbers from????

[normal lagoon]

3D Printer?

[loud cloak]

Probably a printer

[idle tulip]

but theyre not that big 😭

[primal sphinx]

wtf i spent 5 legend talents and my dr tripled from 50 to 150

[loud cloak]

it ticks up

[normal lagoon]

Welcome to W7

[primal sphinx]

legend talents op i guess

[normal lagoon]

W7 OP

[primal sphinx]

reminder to read what things do

[normal lagoon]

READING?! IN MY IDLEON?!

More likely than you think.

It's time to get lit...erate.

(I'll see myself out)

[primal sphinx]

thanks for pro tips

[normal lagoon]

I like my headcanon for this that because IdleOnners are so anti-reading that it's literally as much reading as the characters are capable of doing

Which is why leveling Spelunking for Skill Mastery gives you a few extra daily reads because you've read so much you're breaking that "anti-reading mentality".

[sullen parrot]

oh hey polar

so im about to login again, how do i ensure my gains arent fucked then?

go to one character, click codfrey, etc, tome? and then for rest of them?

[steady umbra]

Are there faster ways to craft than just clicking and holding? I need to make 2mil peanuts for the golden peanut beanstalk and that's...a lot of holding and clicking

[normal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[sullen parrot]

sick

[normal lagoon]

[lethal mural]

if you're doing it from inventory the speed never caps

[normal lagoon]

The best way to ensure it never happens is to never log out

[steady umbra]

Oh! so I can just drag a bunch of items to my inventory and do it that way, neat. Ty!

[raw horizon]

Log into your siegebreaker and have them tank the debuffs

[normal lagoon]

So you'll always have a character who you know is good and can log out to update the game, log in, see it's a fucking mess, log out and back in

[normal lagoon]

Except it's their ACCOUNT gains they're worried about

They lost RXP and Equinox buildup

But that can't happen if you're not offline for 12h+

[raw horizon]

The spaghetti evolves every update

[normal lagoon]

TL;DR: Try to log on or already be on before a patch is coming, especially the day of

[sullen parrot]

ok my equinox and minehead seemed normal this time

[amber solstice]

is DR in tome add or mult

[normal lagoon]

I'm telling you it was the patch

[fickle hornet]

should I get the tome nonexistant reward or wait a couple more days for the gallery bonus?

[normal lagoon]

Multi if you're referring to the event shop purchase

[amber solstice]

the tome in w4, from w5 shop

[lofty kindle]

The newest patch got fixed within an hour of release, so unless you logged in for like 10 minutes and then immediately closed the game, it shouldn't have been bad

[normal lagoon]

I don't even remember what the shops give, but if one of them is DR that'd probably be additive cuz the one from event shop is multi

[amber solstice]

ah. can u get the one from event or is that a past event thats not returning

[simple wadi]

You know what would be nice? If the wiki could go for a day without breaking

[bleak gazelle]

w5 red pages do be additive
event shop (the red text) do be multi

[lofty kindle]

The ones from shop (image 1) are additive, the ones from event shop (image 2) are multi

[amber solstice]

ahh i see

well, ig im not hardfocusing the tome then for the dmg.

[sullen parrot]

how much dmg to aim for ironhead

[delicate wharf]

What do you 3d print sample on ES? monster mats?

[sullen parrot]

logs

[lofty kindle]

Depends how lucky you get

[buoyant schooner]

Logs mostly monster mats is either vman or maybe WW

[lofty kindle]

Extremely lucky is probably 8k, reasonably lucky is probably 10k, overkill is probably more? So I won't be able to get past it until 14k

[strong shuttle]

out to bed, GN guys

[normal lagoon]

PS: I'm pretty sure you've surpassed even me at this point

has invested very little into Minehead

[sullen parrot]

the singular mechanic im further than u at 😭

i JUST reached lvl 1000 on all characters

no good legend talents to spend on

[normal lagoon]

What's that? Yellow/Brown Max?

[sullen parrot]

i have no research points to increase brown, etc

[sullen parrot]

the important stuff in yellow is max yes

[normal lagoon]

Meanwhile me, WASTING points in dogwater shit

[lofty kindle]

I hate this game

[rough stirrup]

if i am having doot & am planning on getting god ranks, should i just put my chars into lab due to the one god making them active in divinity aswell? or are there reasons not to

[sullen parrot]

i wasted 6 points into sushi to finish it in a week

[normal lagoon]

Ah yes I'll take +1 to 2 gallery slots, wait what do you mean they won't make G2 slots into G3 so I just wasted 2 points in it?

[lofty kindle]

Literally 800k damage per square at this point, but it doesn't matter

Actually playing russian roulette here

[normal lagoon]

Just wait til you hit 60 and you get nine points to play with

[normal lagoon]

Just hit him!

[lofty kindle]

I know that every turn after will be instant bombs

[normal lagoon]

Okay and you might wiggle.

You will throw away the whole run if you don't stahp

[lofty kindle]

I don't actually wiggle

[rough stirrup]

(despite this being the wrong channel lol) you still got 4 golden tiles

[cursive edge]

guys i have alr 2 DK and 2 ES should i get 2 SB or who should i get?

[normal lagoon]

Oh I never do cuz I now always hit 2nd square

[lofty kindle]

Attacked, 3 instant bombs, no wiggle

[simple wadi]

It's twerk or nothing for Xyn.

[normal lagoon]

DB or AC IMO. Archers stinky atm

[lofty kindle]

I think lava should die

[normal lagoon]

omggggggggggggg

50% chance my ASS I'm so sorry

[bronze ibex]

i mightve used 200+ hrs of candy but :D w7 time!

we made it guys

[sullen parrot]

ill work on research exp gains now

[lofty kindle]

Maxed node btw, doesn't matter, never wiggles

[normal lagoon]

Congrats on making it to W7, here's your complimentary 20x DR and card almost-doublers.

[fickle hornet]

candies wont help where you're going

[sullen parrot]

congrats, dont fuck up your research points and legend talents ❗

[normal lagoon]

Idk why it's not just guaranteed

[bronze ibex]

hey man ill try my best

[lofty kindle]

Because lava should die, simple as

[normal lagoon]

Oh yeah, both Research and Legend points are NON REFUNDABLE

[normal lagoon]

Idk about "die", but how about inconvenience curse of "always having a pebble in your shoe you can't get out"?

Cuz with die, who will make game

[lofty kindle]

Nearly 11k damage, 30 grid squares, 1 cheat button, 4 wiggles total, 1 shield

[bleak gazelle]

dear god that's rough

https://klipy.com/gifs/free-at-last-saturday-night-live

[normal lagoon]

Very rough, I was squinting at it like the asian guy meme

[normal lagoon]

See this is why I just keep pumping up that Miney Farmey upgrade and mostly nothing else

[cursive edge]

alr just wanna ask does the green mushroom kills also count for the apo chow on the 2nd BB/DB? which i have alr done a couple?

[lofty kindle]

That's what I need to do more, but still, each level costs like 350k+ and only gives like 200 currency per hour

[simple wadi]

I recommend against a second DB.

[normal lagoon]

Okay so Apocalypse Wow and Super Chow are based on your latest DB's kills. As Mirai is alluding to recommending against a second DB, but it's not a big deal as long as you're aware of that.

AC is mostly for double Arcane Crystal tokens.

[lofty kindle]

Put 5 more levels into the minehead atom

[normal lagoon]

Either choice is fine over a third Archer, IMO

[fickle hornet]

lol

[sullen parrot]

@fickle hornet samurai in petmart if youre interested

[fickle hornet]

pog

[cursive edge]

such a hater of archer xd

[simple wadi]

Get a second AC. Or WW, despite what Polar says. We've had disagreements on this, but we both agree AC is an acceptable choice.

[normal lagoon]

This is why I just say "DK 8th, pick 2 non-Archers for 9th/10th" and wash my hands of it.

[cursive edge]

isnt ac the masterclass of ES? bc i alr got 2 of them so should i get 3 or wut

[normal lagoon]

ES AC is totally fine. ES DB is totally fine. AC DB is totally fine

[normal lagoon]

Bubo => AC
ES => MC not out yet

[loud cloak]

My 10th character is the Siege breaker, but that is just cuz I love pirates

[cursive edge]

oh alr

[normal lagoon]

I love pirates too, but SB stinky atm

[loud cloak]

shaman into bubo into arcane cultist

[normal lagoon]

You get the most immediate gain from doing non-Archer double-ups atm

[fickle hornet]

I love minehead

[loud cloak]

Can't wait for the SB Master Class (I will have to wait)

[fervent mulch]

got a juicy trade offer for music notes

[sullen parrot]

cavern 16 leak

[normal lagoon]

Oh I'm hyped for it too because SB is the worst of the 3 classes waiting for an MC, so it'll likely get something crazy like DB/WW gets.

[sullen parrot]

how did he even reach there

[fickle hornet]

❤️

[loud cloak]

I am a sucker for wizard/ES so most excited for that master class. but that has been years of anticipation by now

[sullen parrot]

[normal lagoon]

ES I just hate playing cuz portal; you run away from it or your character sits there for half the portal hitting mobs he can't kill, it sucks
So I hope its MC also fixes its issues.

DK => RG will basically be the Bubo => AC of the bunch, as in "it won't get much because it's already a really powerful class", so I predict it'll get "AC Crystal Map Buff" #2

[fickle hornet]

so many useless shiny objects

[loud cloak]

I like the portal as a DPS check, personal high score per mob type

[lofty kindle]

Hole expansion soon™

[fickle hornet]

oh yeah new villagers can take em

[nocturne patrol]

time to up a little explorer uwu

[lofty kindle]

Also hopefully lava adds more w7 stuff to this, whether it's research exp or minehead currency or sushi bucks

[fickle hornet]

actually best engi upgrade afforded

[normal lagoon]

IMO he just forgor to add something to it

[fickle hornet]

[loud cloak]

The third w7 skill isn't even teased yet, right?

[sullen parrot]

how to get alot of rupies?
just get alot of gilded jars, and then the rupie i want?
does it matter on how huge the gilded jars are or nah?

[normal lagoon]

That or he's waiting cuz a big RXP Multi would... probably break the balance he wants atm

[fickle hornet]

this probably

[sullen parrot]

slime cube related

[fickle hornet]

also this

[lofty kindle]

Sure, but he could add minehead/sushi stuff, cuz it has amber gain, not spelunking exp or eff

[nocturne patrol]

need more dr uwu

[loud cloak]

And am I understanding that the w7 skills have no attribute associated with them, so we are expecting w8 to have the skills for the missing master classes? or is that too far up my own butt?

[fickle hornet]

why is slime cube before sneaking

[lofty kindle]

More important

[fervent mulch]

get tons of gold for these music notes but dont get tons of notes per trip soo....

[fickle hornet]

then arcade would be first

cause gambling good

[lofty kindle]

Why is gaming before 3d printer?

[sullen parrot]

ur the dude with the tuff penguin pfp?

[fervent mulch]

ahah yes that pengo is beast

[fickle hornet]

because Lava forgot

[normal lagoon]

Yeah but Amber is a core part of the Spelunking skill and as such it's still a major stat (it's also, long-term, the best thing to multi since at some point, you will overPOW)
Minehead/Sushi is explicitly for minehead/sushi and is a side-part of the skill. It'd be like making "Forge Capacity Increased" for a W1 Wish over "Mining Efficiency" or "AFK Gains for Mining". The only "global" thing for Research would be RXP I believe.

RXP would also indirectly make Minehead/Sushi better by the fact that you gain levels quicker to get deeper upgrades, and also more research pts to potentially invest in them.

[lofty kindle]

Okay, I was gonna say there's other global research things, like observation attempts or max/min rolls, but it made me realize what the research part of the wish is gonna be

It's 100% gonna be insight exp

[fervent mulch]

https://klipy.com/gifs/confused-wtf-12

[normal lagoon]

I could see IXP too, but RXP just makes the most sense.
Obs also "caps" and you want the wishes to be endless

[lofty kindle]

It's not a direct research exp buff, but still a global research thing that can scale with a %, unlike max/min rolls

[normal lagoon]

Yeah, as long as it's an endlessly-useful thing.

Breeding is the closest to a "potentially dead" wish once you get all Shinies to 20 and Breedability high. Breedability also just really needs... more to it cuz it's a very weak thing

[sullen parrot]

we need boss mobs like idle skilling

[lofty kindle]

Cooking speed is technically limited, just not in actuality cuz the meal caps are high enough

Crop evo chance too

[fickle hornet]

why cant the 55 tick over faster

[normal lagoon]

Crop Evo is weird cuz it's good planning for the future, lets you get back to 300 crops quicker without waiting for other crops, and lets you invest other points out of Evo (like Land Ranks or less Exotic/Beans invested in it), but I do agree it does cap in usefulness at some point

Cooking Speed you'll just never hit your meal caps unless you messed something up

[lofty kindle]

Ye, but thinking about it, I definitely think it'll be insight rate

[fervent mulch]

I'd love it if shinies had the chart that shushi has for bonuses

[normal lagoon]

I mean, I could see Insight being it instead.

It indirectly is RXP though

[normal lagoon]

You'd probably get more EXP doing a zigzag of your magnifiers and kaleidoscopes

[fickle hornet]

you rite

[lofty kindle]

Yeah, but it adds a level of separation from just adding research exp, plus seeing as we have game design 101 and game design 102 as nodes, there's no way we don't get more, probably buffing other research or non-research mechanics

[normal lagoon]

My point was it would still be something more "global" to Research than something that buffs the side games like Minehead/Sushi. IXP/I-rate would 100% count and works for that for sure.

The only question is "why hasn't he added it yet"

[lofty kindle]

Forgor

[normal lagoon]

Either Forgor or worried about balance

[lofty kindle]

Or saving it for next hole update, which he said would be a type of update that would be in a weekly update

[normal lagoon]

Tru

[raw horizon]

if he was worried about balance he could always nerf it the following patch like with sushi

[lofty kindle]

Cuz people had such a positive reaction to that

[normal lagoon]

Best case scenario IMO:

• Next update is Hole
• Update after that is Anniv, potentially with Char Slot 11?

Could also flip/flop those

Idk I have a weird feeling Anniv update will come with something more than just event, and a celebration for 5y of the game? Perfect time to do more of the game with a new character slot.

[shadow lynx]

oh i guess i get a little more xp than last time i labbed

[lofty kindle]

inb4 no 11th character slot, instead we get a research node like: "Reduces amount of characters required to complete spirit locks by 1. Level 0/3"

[normal lagoon]

Reminder: Goharut

[shadow lynx]

yeaa

[normal lagoon]

Legit please, don't put that idea out there.

[shadow lynx]

i was gonna wait for ballot but i need some for button

[normal lagoon]

That would shit all over the potential of 11th char anytime soon

Cuz then he'll just be a shit and be like "13 kekw"

[lofty kindle]

If it's far enough into research, people wouldn't be getting it until later, and it's not like you could cheese through w6 with it because you'd have to be in w7 to even get it

[normal lagoon]

Locking map prog behind research pts would be really shitty.

[fickle hornet]

[normal lagoon]

Go get a snack and it'll be done

Speaking of done, me with these fucking frogs.

[fickle hornet]

I'm fasting pls no snack talk

or I'm about to go on a snack streak

[normal lagoon]

Oh shit sorry. Keto?

[lofty kindle]

I'll make sure not to mention what I'm about to grab for dinner

[normal lagoon]

I will explicitly not mention what is in my oven atm

[fickle hornet]

I'm about to drink water for dinner

[normal lagoon]

Oh going beyond OMAD?

[fickle hornet]

water with a bit of lemon flavour

[normal lagoon]

I usually do Keto + OMAD but as of late, uh, let's just say I haven't been dieting 😅

[fickle hornet]

Lava is trolling me aint no way

[lofty kindle]

I lied, I am explicitly going to mention the prime rib steakburger that I'm about to grab. 2 smashed patties with cheese, grilled onions, and a quarter pound of prime rib between 2 slices of texas toast, with onion rings

[simple wadi]

Are you pregnant? 🤔

[fervent mulch]

yay food talk, mcdonalds coke just hits different

[fickle hornet]

sans undertale?????

[lofty kindle]

I'd be very surprised if I was, why?

[normal lagoon]

That's fucked up, I would never mention the bacon chicken ranch frozen pizza that's almost done in the oven.

[simple wadi]

That's just a very big sandwich for one person, haha

[fickle hornet]

why is the pizza still frozen if its almost done

[normal lagoon]

Some people do OMAD I usually have a big meal and that's it for the day

[lofty kindle]

I've got the double edged sword blessing/curse of an extremely high metabolism, so I gotta eat a lot, but won't gain any weight

[simple wadi]

You guys are so mean to poor Poviux. You won't see me talking about the leftover piquant glazed spiral ham with scalloped corn and julienned potatoes I'm having.

[fickle hornet]

I don't even care

[normal lagoon]

This is just the Poviux Torture Channel now

[fickle hornet]

am about to bite my pillow clean off

[lofty kindle]

Yo, maybe I get a vanilla milkshake too

[normal lagoon]

Marshmallow

[lofty kindle]

[simple wadi]

Ever try putting malt powder in your milkshake?

[normal lagoon]

Man now I want a milkshake :c

[lofty kindle]

I have not, what is that?

[raw horizon]

go the extra mile and add maltesers 😋

[lament trench]

malt powder in milkshake yummy

[normal lagoon]

Next add a whole Maltese dog

[raw horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/kleng-dogs-pupper-ice-cream-ice-cream-dog-gif-12954559

[simple wadi]

Tbh I'm not sure what it is. But you put a tablespoon in milkshake and it makes it soooo much more flavorful and rich.

[lofty kindle]

I'll do you one better and add the entire country of malta to my milkshake

[lofty kindle]

Ooh, that does sound good

[simple wadi]

https://www.amazon.com/King-Arthur-Flour-Malted-Powder/dp/B07S44ZSHW

[trail ore]

is mantas any good for xp/money?

[normal lagoon]

Pretty sure #1 at both atm

[trail ore]

interesting

[normal lagoon]

I think higher HP = higher EXP/money

[lament trench]

wait really?

[raw horizon]

why is lava MLK posting

[trail ore]

im definitely getting lower $

[normal lagoon]

TF Lava

[simple wadi]

I wonder if this is a hint that W7 achievements are coming

[normal lagoon]

Merit board??? :o

[lofty kindle]

He's like... 3 months late on that

[simple wadi]

Nah he always introduces them late.

[lofty kindle]

I meant MLK day

[trail ore]

whats a good amount of coin multi at this point?

[lament trench]

more res. exp, more minehead currency in merit shop

[simple wadi]

This is mine. Don't know if it's good or not.

[trail ore]

aaaaaaaaaaa

what the hell am i missing

[normal lagoon]

Does he add merit/tasks with it too or just achs? Just ach would be kinda... Who cares

[lethal mural]

gmush kills and mainstat

[normal lagoon]

Does left arrow mean the former @simple wadi

[fervent mulch]

pretty sure there we re a few bundles for vualt or maybe not i dont remeber

[normal lagoon]

Awesome

[trail ore]

how many gmush kills do i need to get

[simple wadi]

I have 100T gmush kills.

[trail ore]

[fickle hornet]

this is a lie

[trail ore]

how

[fickle hornet]

it only used 999

[simple wadi]

Lots of 24 hour candy.

[trail ore]

100T seems crazy

[lament trench]

and high afk gains of ac crystal in gmush

[trail ore]

I think my other stats are decent

[normal lagoon]

W7 Merit Shop, hmmmmmmm 🤔

[trail ore]

wtf

[normal lagoon]

inb4 "Get Rank 9 on Clamworks" for a task

[raw horizon]

you can definetly push high mushroom kills with those stats

[normal lagoon]

Did you... prisma that?

[lethal mural]

yeah?

[normal lagoon]

Wild

[lament trench]

[normal lagoon]

Not judging, just, interesting to see

[fervent mulch]

i feel like my kills a hour on db is less than i thought it woul bbe

[trail ore]

only 60B per 1hr candy

T_T

[fickle hornet]

I lied, thats 900 not even 999

what a scam

[simple wadi]

So a single 24 hour candy would be 1.6 trillion?

[trail ore]

yeah probably

[fervent mulch]

why even lie over something no reaso n to lie over

[trail ore]

but i only have like a few thousand candy you dont understand

im practically bankrupt

[lethal mural]

I could minmax some more

[normal lagoon]

I have under 2k hours cuz I just threw a lot at Fractal

[trail ore]

fractals are so rough

[normal lagoon]

Btw is #💖future-content-blog a hint to specifically save Topaz or just save Jewel cog?

[trail ore]

wtf

[normal lagoon]

Cuz if it's only Topaz that would suck

[trail ore]

what even are good cards for afk

[simple wadi]

Lava released this several months after the cog board was added where people were already almost entirely on the pink ulti cogs. So people had to delete their cogs to do this achievement.

[kind peak]

any tips for this annihilation? i cant seem to get it done

[nocturne patrol]

credit card very good for afk gain

[normal lagoon]

cringe af

[fickle hornet]

I got W6 one before I got the W5 one

what the hell

[barren turtle]

could just put the purple ones in the inventory and after the achievement swap them back

[trail ore]

im sitting like here with everything

[simple wadi]

Cog space was severely limited. People didn't have 7 pages like they do now.

[lethal mural]

Yeah I'll dump some candy

[primal sphinx]

hey could someone please show me their ES active bar?

[barren turtle]

ohhh, nvm then ._.""

[simple wadi]

Is that on your DB?

[trail ore]

DK

[normal lagoon]

I assume this is why

[trail ore]

should probably swap to DB

but then i have to move my damn equips T_T

[normal lagoon]

"God I wish we had Wing Rack/Attire Armoire already. "

[trail ore]

TRUE

[simple wadi]

[trail ore]

even make me toggle them from a menu or something

idfk, just make it so i dont have to look up where they are

[normal lagoon]

I mean, I'd really love to not have to see these stupid fucking chains on every character I play

[lethal mural]

not bad I guess

[trail ore]

i mean same, would prefer to have aesthetic for every character

[normal lagoon]

I actually really like the Amarok wings but they're worthless so can't use em

[kind peak]

any tips for annihilation? i literally cant get past the slimes

[normal lagoon]

I understand why he may not wanna do Attire Armoire, given it's entirely P2W atm (and way bigger bonuses over wings), but Wing Rack, there's enough wings f2p that it'd be nice to have implemented.

[lethal mural]

I gained 12q gmush and 6e30 coin mult

[lofty kindle]

You don't really need annihilations to progress DB, just come back later

[kind peak]

what will help later? just curious

[normal lagoon]

I'm stuck at Mashed Potato for Annihilation and I have W6 cleared on Wraith Form, so you don't have to do it

[trail ore]

hmmm

[lofty kindle]

More damage, movement speed, or attack speed

[lethal mural]

your afk gianrate is low that's the main issue

[normal lagoon]

Oh, Crit Chance helps MCs A LOT

[lethal mural]

how many golden dumplings do you have equipped and what's your gold food affect

[normal lagoon]

Because you can Megacrit in MC Form

[lethal mural]

well it's also the fact crit's just useful in general

[normal lagoon]

^ makes Lab Levels (for AC) and Fishing Eff (for DB) pretty important since it's a pretty massive damage multi to megacrit Hell boosting my lab levels on AC and doing nothing else once I heard you can megacrit in form, I got 60% more crit and progged 3 more maps out of thin air.
(also Breedability for WW, but my god that scales slow as shit compared to the other two)

[lethal mural]

the gold food affect itself is low vman set the pet and higher summoning meal levels and ribbon on yumi will solve that

I guess the only other issue is your strength stat being low for charred skulls in which case do alchemy

[turbid tundra]

Does being linked to Arctis trigger the printing bonus node in lab?

[normal lagoon]

• Turn off Zerg Rushogen
• Turn on Ruck Sack
• Get beeg stack in your inventory
• Swap prayers back
• GFood Stacks stay

[trail ore]

ew

[lethal mural]

for the character linked yes

[normal lagoon]

It's a Lab Node, it would affect your entire account

[turbid tundra]

Thanks, wanted to know before I relinked most of my characters

[normal lagoon]

Anyone you put with Arctis counts as connected to the lab for the sake of connecting those account-wide bonuses. If you have the node activated, even those without Arctis benefit too

[lethal mural]

well the lab node only affects those in lab

Or I'm wrong and thinking of the wrong buff

[trail ore]

I have vman set and T15 119 yumi

[deep star]

did something happen? I lost 100k acc at all players and i dont know whyyy :/

[normal lagoon]

Cloudsave, try again.
Still bugged? Restart completely

[lethal mural]

t20 is just a huge bonus you're pretty time gated

[deep star]

oke (Y)

[hazy tapir]

do you get minor link bonuses outside the main link? like pocket divinity and coral kid

[fervent mulch]

gonna farm some dumplings might as well have mac stack

[trail ore]

im getting close to t20

[lethal mural]

you also want golden grilled nomwiches golden cheese aswell

[normal lagoon]

Yes with ONE exception: Purrmep must be physically linked to someone (ideally an ES) to get his minor bonus.

[fervent mulch]

got thosr yummy gold food

[lofty kindle]

For this one, the person has to be active in the lab, so either linked to arctis or in the lab

[lethal mural]

this is what I used

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1at-y9t5ohYky33nOLoSxHYeyRX-3T91paj-nTSHrB3c/edit this sheet has the proper setup

[normal lagoon]

Wait, what

[deep star]

yeah fixed. thx.

[trail ore]

maybe i spend a couple stopwatches

[lofty kindle]

Yeah, like, if the person is disconnected from the lab, they won't have doubled printer resources

[normal lagoon]

Okay nvm I'm wrong sorry @turbid tundra / @lethal mural

[turbid tundra]

One more question, are ancient artifacts just an RNG chance from the same island the normal one comes from? Or is there something else to it

[lethal mural]

I feel extremley validated

[lethal mural]

artifact chance makes them more common further islands are rarer

[normal lagoon]

I was legit unaware you had to be connected / forgor

[trail ore]

need to get 9darter ;_;

[lofty kindle]

Normally you're right that lab bonuses are account-wide, but that specific node explicitly says that you need to be connected, so it's an exception to the normal rule

[lethal mural]

Smh

[lofty kindle]

And with enough lab levels/arctis, everyone is always connected anyways, so it stops being relevant

[lethal mural]

I haven't been not connected to lab in over 2 years lmao

[normal lagoon]

and eventually, Arctis is perma-free via research anyway

[lethal mural]

pocket divinity also exists

[lofty kindle]

Ye, but research makes arctis specifically always active, while pocket div can be swapped off arctis

[lethal mural]

Fair enough

[normal lagoon]

Wait, your pocket div can be swapped off Omniphau/Harriep?

That's weird, mine must have been bugged pre-Doot.

[lethal mural]

Always was able

[normal lagoon]

Mmmm, idk about that

[lethal mural]

I was I didn't get doot till way after when pet trading was introduced

I always had mine on arctis and omni

[lofty kindle]

The meta strat is instead being linked normally to harriep, and use pocket divinity for arctis, so that you don't need to use limited swaps per week changing to goharut during lab/div jail

[normal lagoon]

That's fair

[umbral isle]

the meta strat is to have doot

[normal lagoon]

With the W7 Divinity additions, Doot's honestly less and less vital

He's more becoming a "All Stats, Gold Ball Gain, and Research Multi" pet

[umbral isle]

well i mean i got him for free from a giveaway so im still not complaining

[normal lagoon]

I wouldn't be surprised if W8 gives yet another pocket div (with Bagur's introduction) and a new 4th bonus

(he should also make the W5 Gem Shop purchase give something if you have Doot)

[umbral isle]

i dont think lava would want to devalue doot, be that would stop ppl gambling on the og pets

[lethal mural]

I wouldn't be surprised if he eventually rotated the original set out like he did with the spirit pets

[normal lagoon]

Doot will always be valuable, just less so because he's been WAY TOO GOOD for too long.

Lava has gone on record saying Doot was too powerful, which is why he has been devaluing him with things like Pocket Divs, Arctis Research, Snehebatu perma-link in the gem shop

[echo crag]

as someone who got doot for free on week 2 after release, yes he was way to strong back then

[normal lagoon]

Once you have everything for extra links, Doot doesn't feel nearly as "overpowered" as before.

[echo crag]

now is pretty much just a nice QoL

[normal lagoon]

Still powerful/QoL though, and you get some free all stats, gold ball gain, and a 1.05x Research Grid multi (this is pretty nice and gets nicer with every patch that adds research grid stuff)

[echo crag]

gold ball gains ?

[normal lagoon]

Pocket Div 3 (Coral Kid) gives Gold Ball Gain for Dooters

[echo crag]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[normal lagoon]

1. Go to Coral Kid
2. Read the first upgrade since you said you have Doot
3. 

With the exception of the Snehebatu Gem Shop purchase, Lava has given Dooters something whenever you get "free links" like Pocket Divs and Arctis Research.

[echo crag]

never knew that coral kid bonus was something extra

[normal lagoon]

This is so Doot's importance gets nerfed, but he still gets some new value that non-Dooters don't have.

[fickle hornet]

almost there

[normal lagoon]

and as someone w/ Doot, I'm not complaining about other players getting more out of their divinities AND me getting free new bonuses

[faint wigeon]

privilege of having doot

[normal lagoon]

(granted I also didn't spend hundreds of bucks for Doot and got him in a pretty nice trade for like, 2 not-super-expensive exclusives of mine)

[trail ore]

are silver stopwatches only one time per character?

[echo crag]

the quest reward, yes

[trail ore]

😭

brb dying

[normal lagoon]

Oh, quest rewards are once per character/account yeah. You can get more SWatches from W2 Weekly Boss Shop though (when they roll into the shop)

[echo crag]

he really should allow us to either craft them or reclaim them

[trail ore]

yeah

esp with two needed per ring

[normal lagoon]

Or just have the shop be non-rotating

Let the Statue/GFood rotate every week but leave everything the same

[echo crag]

Mr parrot, cass is talking about hte quest reward ones

[faint wigeon]

the item for zero stopwatch

[normal lagoon]

Oh.

[faint wigeon]

[normal lagoon]

I see "Silver Watch" and I think the Daily reset item(s)

[trail ore]

time to swap characters a hundred times 🙁

[normal lagoon]

This is why idc about ZP Stopwatch cuz you can only make five of them total currently.

[faint wigeon]

yeah problem is that we can call both of them silver watch, while one is a stopwatch and other pocketwatch, but nobody knows the difference

[normal lagoon]

Guess what? My phone is both a stopwatch and a pocketwatch so...

[faint wigeon]

[eternal ibex]

is the sushi cash bugged rn my number doesn't seem to be moving

[jagged warren]

does mantra still work even if im in the lab

[faint wigeon]

if you're on goat, any stances work

[faint wigeon]

[jagged warren]

so switch all my characters links to goat

does the bonus from cosmo in the hole still count

[faint wigeon]

pocket div is bonus links to all your char

[jagged warren]

so yes it still counts ?

[eternal ibex]

oh didn't know this is new

[jagged warren]

oh

bonus link

thank you

[faint wigeon]

shouldn't not count. it's additionnal links

[fickle hornet]

can I make it bigger

[faint wigeon]

@lethal mural another victim appeared in bug and reports

[lethal mural]

@inland island

[fickle hornet]

need this then

[normal lagoon]

and Ruck Sack prayer

[faint wigeon]

it's an increase yes

[normal lagoon]

You were warned last week via #patch-notes📝

• The SUSHI STATION is in business! You can access it from the STACK OF PAPERS in world 7 town! [Note: You will need to unlock it properly in a few weeks. For now, it is auto unlocked to avoid unnecessary frustration if you dont have any research pts]

He just lied about the "a few" week(s) part.

[inland island]

I know that, but I used to be able to access it in town up until yesterday

[normal lagoon]

@inland island

[faint wigeon]

yeah lava seemed to think a few weeks is barely one

lava time is something special

[normal lagoon]

It was Sunday to Sunday so actually 1 week

[eternal ibex]

dang gotta wait 3 days now for the upgrade😭

[normal lagoon]

if you can get the Maw island instead, do so. You'll get a pile of points there if you can reach it

First chest collection I literally got T5 of every relic; 5 points from that (4 profit, 1 return on investment)