lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[tight pilot]

probably i dont lvl it up that area nuch i go for more dmg

[crimson sorrel]

The bag upgrade

[tight pilot]

which ones

[crimson sorrel]

The amber bag

Which give a good multi

[crimson sorrel]

Look this

[dire cedar]

is there a guide for super talents yet?

[crimson sorrel]

U can reset them

[ivory moth]

how do i get more bones i just got a deathwalker

[crimson sorrel]

So use based on what u doing

[crimson sorrel]

Is the auto upgrade worth it because it gives 2x power or I can get pow without it

[simple wadi]

No. I made one a long time ago when super talents first came out, but it's so dated it's not worth sharing. I've been thinking of redoing it with actual graphics, but not gotten around to it yet.

[dire cedar]

please when you get a chance redo it big papa it will be truly amazing

[simple wadi]

The POW makes it worth it if you have the gems to spare. You can definitely kill Bizarro boss without it, but it'll speed things up.

[crimson sorrel]

I just buy it after event if i got gem to spare

I only have 3k gems

[dire cedar]

only 3k is definitely a statement

[crimson sorrel]

What was the daily boss thing I want to do that

[tribal burrow]

Go ahead say you have only 98.5k kruk keys when I'm still looking for cape

[crimson sorrel]

[lilac anvil]

i see the light

[dire cedar]

🙂 yeah ya do if you pull up IT itll show you here how many times you can do it, it resets with vendor times. only things that affect the keys and gems to drop from the world boss fights are these 2 merit shop things. dr affects the other things the boss drops but not keys and gems.

[crimson sorrel]

Ty

[dire cedar]

np, btw minibosses dont count towards that 150 daily boss kill thing

[crimson sorrel]

I should start doing this to get more gems

[crimson sorrel]

But they are weekly type

[dire cedar]

what did you spend the 3k gems on btw?

[simple wadi]

I'm proud of you for using "affect" correctly.

[crimson sorrel]

I just don't claim them yet

[dire cedar]

i paid attention in school lol

[dire cedar]

ayo? how do you have so many unclaimed gems?

[crimson sorrel]

I had 2500 before i lost them in gambling

[simple wadi]

inb4 he accidentally sells them

[crimson sorrel]

U get gems by leveling

[crimson sorrel]

[dire cedar]

i would definitely claim them just so that doesnt happen xD but hey you do you

[crimson sorrel]

I sold 10 gems while selling ww bows

[bleak gazelle]

Sell 69

[jagged silo]

last round be4 left my laptop

[dire cedar]

my vman got to 1m blue damage lol wasnt expecting that

[tiny atlas]

1b when

[dire cedar]

3 years maybe idk

[tiny atlas]

i give you 3 days

[crimson sorrel]

@jagged silo I don't think i can get 120

4.9t crops

[dusk knoll]

how

[jagged silo]

[lilac anvil]

what should i farm the study stamp on

[jagged silo]

got fat ass tree

[stone wing]

[dire cedar]

good question lol because now its at 814k

[lilac anvil]

is it sb? i feel like that respawn rate is quickest

[stone wing]

just afk it

[lilac anvil]

ok

[stone wing]

i got mine pretty easily afking

[timid terrace]

can someone help with dootophone need one

[dusk knoll]

i mean i guess the stats are much higher then mine my dk only does 44

[dire cedar]

it goes past 999 btw lol

[swift ridge]

guys is there anyway to lvl this up or is my only option is to wait for NBLB

[jagged silo]

I know

[quasi galleon]

Failure to report exploits can/will result in action being taken.

[crimson sorrel]

Fuck this game I misclick on first upgrade

[bleak gazelle]

dang, brother is salty about his boron find

[quasi galleon]

That 10 levels into Potent Hemlock though

[jagged silo]

tomorrow

[crimson sorrel]

I miss clicked wrong upgrade

[dusk knoll]

autoclickers cheart ?

[quasi galleon]

They're very much against the rules, yes.

[jagged silo]

but luck is not that bad

[crimson sorrel]

But 119 lv

[jagged silo]

sad thing is u not farm that

need 100B more crop

[crimson sorrel]

I hate this game

[quasi galleon]

Probably don't want to see this, then.

[red rapids]

nah, salty about being trolled over trying to bring what i saw as an exploit to a mod. but w/e, its done

[jagged silo]

is this show up be4?

[quasi galleon]

Yes

[jagged silo]

oh

[bleak gazelle]

there's a reason that ignore/block exist

[jagged silo]

I stark do exotic like last 2 round

[crimson sorrel]

I only had 1m of first upgrade crop not even 100m

[quasi galleon]

I believe it's the third time we've had it, although the 2nd time Freexotic was also available at the same time

[jagged silo]

u also put all 4 times in?

[jagged silo]

also how many crop u have invest

[thorn rapids]

For sneaking if I don’t check it for a long time will the ninja continue to try and find items or does it only refresh once I’ve checked it and removed the bag of nothing?

[quasi galleon]

I only did 2 times when it was split, but kind of wish I went all in on Freexotic instead

I can get ~150 levels per turn in now

[jagged silo]

with how many crop

[simple wadi]

An exploit requires that something not behave as intended. Boron is behaving as Lava intended, it's just unbalanced towards people who pay attention when leveling vs. people who mindlessly click buttons.

[jagged silo]

wow

[quasi galleon]

It's not a consistent number of crops, especially since I just leveled this bonus a bunch more ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Way more than 21T crops

[jagged silo]

how long u farm it

[trail pendant]

feels good that the the numbers are going up

[quasi galleon]

This is my current prep for tonight's changeover

[simple wadi]

Ninjas will continue to find items even if your inventory is full. This will consume your daily chance to find symbols and pristines without giving you either if your ninjas happen to find one.

[jagged silo]

wow

this is so good

[quasi galleon]

Mhm

[crimson sorrel]

I remember there was some achievement

[jagged silo]

1k cemical

[crimson sorrel]

Does 77.7m purple bit count

[jagged silo]

it's 360 be4

[quasi galleon]

Read it again

[jagged silo]

[crimson sorrel]

It just say bits

[jagged silo]

I get it at very first

[crimson sorrel]

I also have it before i was just looking like how many time I got this

[jagged silo]

u need 777M

[hard crest]

which would imply the color of the bit isnt an issue

[jagged silo]

77.7M doesn't count

[hard crest]

it should lol

[jagged silo]

bruh 1b more

[hard crest]

just needs to be 777

[quasi galleon]

It does

[jagged silo]

oh wait

[crimson sorrel]

So close but so far

[jagged silo]

still love this

[crimson sorrel]

Now I can go back to my bow farming

Hate this game one more time

[jagged silo]

farm this

[crimson sorrel]

Why

For next one

[ornate zephyr]

ok thats a big boomerang

[quasi galleon]

Because this is really nice to have

[jagged silo]

hmm

[quasi galleon]

Freexotic is the only correct choice for after the change

[jagged silo]

I know

but bean

[crimson sorrel]

👍

Fuk beans

[crimson sorrel]

The exalt bonus don't sound bad

[jagged silo]

capped at 2%

500lvl give 0.67%

[crimson sorrel]

Then it is bad

[molten oriole]

does this help with people afking at monument or afking at killing oglems?

[jagged silo]

nope

jar, ring,villager xp gain and study

[molten oriole]

thx!

[crimson sorrel]

Only help full if you can lv the villager in 2-3hr

And if you can you don't need to use it

[jagged silo]

should I reset?

I think I'm cooked this time

[crimson sorrel]

I am missing collectable

[jagged silo]

also

[jagged silo]

so reset?

[crimson sorrel]

What is ur base rupie value

[jagged silo]

wait

better than last time

when I'll see 20 above again..

[crimson sorrel]

I need more collectable

[ornate zephyr]

this is a bucket

[crimson sorrel]

These are buckets

[ornate zephyr]

dear god

[crimson sorrel]

U have more then me

Did you buy the engeneer ones

[ornate zephyr]

are there non engeneer ones?

excluding the 1 starter bucket ofc

[crimson sorrel]

No but the last ones that cost in trillion

How

[crimson sorrel]

Wut ur bfr

[ornate zephyr]

urs?

[crimson sorrel]

Huh

[jagged silo]

[crimson sorrel]

[jagged silo]

it's 24T be4

[ornate zephyr]

use this if need rn

[crimson sorrel]

I think I am lazy

[jagged silo]

bro just focus 1

[crimson sorrel]

I am doing that

[ornate zephyr]

"focus 1"

[jagged silo]

soon

[ornate zephyr]

how about no?

[crimson sorrel]

Sleeping on hole again'

[ornate zephyr]

i dont even have that one

and 2 more buckets

[crimson sorrel]

I am just too lazy

After upgrading that

[prime compass]

so whenever i do get around to unlocking zenith statues, do i want to deposit a bunch of statues first, or are cluster upgrades more important?

[ornate zephyr]

both

both is good

[prime compass]

[cloud glade]

the second upgrade of zenith gives more bubbles for kurk to upgrade everyday so thats super important

[crimson sorrel]

Oh its increase my base rupee also

[ornate zephyr]

the first 3 levels are POG, the 2 left are mostly ignorable

well, the second and third

[cloud glade]

i doubt anyone who just gets to zenith are going to be able to get past lv2

[ornate zephyr]

still, free pentaleveling bubbles from LARRY

[crimson sorrel]

My zen market is cooked

[cloud glade]

lamp boost will also boost your bucket gain

[crimson sorrel]

U need some prisma multi to get +,5

But I need to make dubble drop to 100 first

[ornate zephyr]

first 2 upgrades are cheap enough you can reach them easly with no double cluster

[dire cedar]

finished my daily boss kills

[cloud glade]

afaik you cannot get +5 from larry. the cap is 294 acording to Toolbox

[ornate zephyr]

but how many levels in this has?

[crimson sorrel]

As much u can

[gray thicket]

What is your motivation

[ornate zephyr]

how many YOU HAVE

[crimson sorrel]

This get too expensive

[cloud glade]

free gems is a great motivator

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/did-you-say-free-happy-excited-crazy-gif-18505027

[ornate zephyr]

lag factory in proggress

[gray thicket]

[crimson sorrel]

Blue dmg pro

[gray thicket]

I guess so

[crimson sorrel]

Also whale

[cloud glade]

it used to be more from bosses but it got nerfed a good bit ago

[frosty cipher]

OOOH-H--H MY P-C----C-CC

[cloud glade]

i wish you could toggle coin and card drops

[fading elbow]

Guys what is it even good for to renew the bell in the well on W5?

[cloud glade]

for when you unlock things that can give you more levels for each ring.

[fading elbow]

Goddamnit didnt unlock that yet

[cloud glade]

90% of the game is unlocking something

[crimson sorrel]

I am tired boss

Finally getting in t now

[stone wing]

free doot in trade discussion

[jagged silo]

now get Al

[jagged silo]

wut???

[stone wing]

gone now

maybe idk

[jagged silo]

only for new player...

[stone wing]

first come first serve

[north socket]

how do i make multiple stacks of 1050m in storage?

[stone wing]

js go

no one was claiming it for a good minute

[crimson sorrel]

[oblique heron]

pro

[swift ridge]

after 1.5 years of waiting I can get my first omega nanochip

[red rapids]

if it works

theres been some issues where even though its scheduled it still doesnt show up

[swift ridge]

wdum "if"

pls dont say it

[prime compass]

with the jade emporium upgrade, sometimes it doesnt show up

[red rapids]

ask polar about it

[swift ridge]

what upgrade?

[red rapids]

the jade emporium upgrade 'overwrites' its spot in the jewel spinner

[prime compass]

laboratory bling, it changes the rotation

[swift ridge]

well all I got to do is wait another week to see if it doesn't work

[stone wing]

if it dont work, im finding lava

[prime compass]

im not buying the upgrade, until i have the omega chip

[stone wing]

i dont think it works like that

[crimson sorrel]

U can gamble it like me from gemshop

[prime compass]

if having the upgrade changes the rotation, then not having it shouldnt

[stone wing]

it doesnt change the rotation

[prime compass]

then why could people with the upgrade not get it, but people without it could

[stone wing]

did that actually happen

https://tenor.com/view/yuna-yunayu-yunayuispink-dance-crab-gif-17539981110090013788

[swift ridge]

I am broke I cant buy gems
And the free gems are being put into more useful things other than gambling

[prime compass]

the common demoninator for everyone who couldnt get it the last time it was supposed to be in the shop, was having the upgrade

[neon charm]

What's the next upd?

[stone wing]

when was last time

[oblique heron]

Idk

[stone wing]

the most recent omega chip that i was informed of, i didnt have the upg that time and i still didnt have it

https://tenor.com/view/chen-break-dance-endfield-arknights-arknights-endfield-gif-12163275330078387139

[prime compass]

well the next one is in 8 days so i guess we'll see

[red rapids]

@normal lagoon come explain about the omega chip and why having the lab bling jade emp upgrade messes with it

[crimson sorrel]

Just kill boses bro

I am f2p too

[dire cedar]

next what?

[prime compass]

the next omega nanochip, and then the omega motherboard is after that

[crimson sorrel]

I just need star doublers

[oblique heron]

I just

[prime compass]

thats not until may

[dire cedar]

big dub i can finally get the aluminum atom

[crimson sorrel]

Gambling has no date

[crimson sorrel]

Show ur states.with item equipes

[dire cedar]

oh damn not to shabby

[toxic cloak]

Hoe do i get more gaming gains?

[crimson sorrel]

Can I get aluminium now

[oblique heron]

No u poor af

[light relic]

broke lowkey

[crimson sorrel]

[molten oriole]

is there a point in saving htese cogs? or can i tsafely trash them if they re too low XP bonus

[normal lagoon]

Honestly I'm not sure Lab Bling messes with it, just the jewel spinner. People who don't have Lab Bling say they also can't get the chip, so I think I accidentally connected two things that are in the same realm but aren't actually connected.

[red rapids]

ok, but the chip is still buggy right?

[normal lagoon]

Yes, another chip always replaces it 100% of the time.

[dire cedar]

if they arent better than your current cogs trash them lol

[oblique heron]

Why are trash chips never replaced

[red rapids]

yah heres to hoping it shows up lol

[normal lagoon]

It literally can't until Lava fixes the bug.

[red rapids]

oof 🙁

[normal lagoon]

It's not showing up for 50+ weeks; it's mostly definitely not showing up period

Meanwhile the other one only shows up twice in the next 50 weeks; it's quite rare, but not bugged.

(I would super make sure not to miss it next week)

[hard crest]

difference between bugged and him changing how it works

[red rapids]

yah i have 1, but im looking forward to getting another lol

[normal lagoon]

"Corporate wants you to find the difference"

[normal lagoon]

Oh for sure. It's one of the best chips and ideally you end up with 10 (12)

Stuff like Choco Chip is nice, but it's really unnecessary for most characters. Just DKs and switch them on when you're actively playing someone

But the omega chips are like, super importante

Also the inf star sign doubler, that one's pretty nuts

[red rapids]

yah itd be nice if some of the chips showed up more lol

[crimson sorrel]

Then gambling is the way

[light relic]

when update?

[normal lagoon]

If Lava ever wants to fix it
If you're referring to the W7p2 update, Soon™ (but I doubt it will fix the issue I'm referring to)

[swift ridge]

How many times and what boss did you kill and how much time have u spent and does DR change the gem drop chance?

[hard crest]

that chip thing hasnt been a thing since before w7

[normal lagoon]

Oh really? Fun

[hard crest]

[normal lagoon]

Picasso Gaming wasn't either, but lord know if he's fixing that too 🥴

I pray he does because some of these bugs are really irritating.

[light relic]

feel like he gonna skip valentine event unless he done events around 14th before

[normal lagoon]

I wouldn't know since I joined the game in October, but given he's doing a mid/late Feb update, it could just be a touch delayed past Valentine's

Because otherwise the next event would be Easter in April

[light relic]

hmm i just wanna spend my 30 event tickets

and hopefully stock up on some valentine food for wp

[normal lagoon]

and from what I can tell it seems like he likes having an event roughly every 2 months, though August/September doesn't really have anything

[light relic]

im just waitingf or a countdown for next update

last time made us rect to have update tmmrow

[normal lagoon]

I mean you're gonna be waiting about 2-3 weeks. He literally said mid/late Feb

[light relic]

and i spammed it in every chat lol

[crimson sorrel]

I don't kill Boss but that is one way I get that much by leveling skill and player

Dr don't affect the gem drop chances

[light relic]

oh shoot where he say that?

[normal lagoon]

#idleon-gen-chat message

[hard crest]

~hopefully~

[light relic]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-moves-gif-9472470858311093882

[normal lagoon]

(given what we've seen in #💖future-content-blog, I do agree it's seeming "insane" in size)

[normal lagoon]

I just pray if it is later, we still get Valenslime's event

[light relic]

im just wondering how this is gonan work

if cost no crops how much percentage we get per buy

or just for regular market

[normal lagoon]

If I had to guess, maybe you get the amount of levels you would get, it just doesn't cost any crops

[simple wadi]

Plot twist - Lava's boyfriend left him, so this year's Valenslime's event is themed after the Saint Valentine's Day Massacre of 1929.

[normal lagoon]

Ayo Lava gay?

[simple wadi]

🤷

[light relic]

yeah that makes sense forgot about leveling system

[normal lagoon]

insert <how it feels to spread misinfo> gif here

[hard crest]

past events would imply its not expected till 2027, but ya never know since events bring in good

[light relic]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-to-spread-information-online-how-it-feels-spread-information-flying-meme-gif-14974441145477428445

damn i be floating in my dreams like that

[light relic]

hopefully 30 tickets let me get all th eevent bonus this time

[stone wing]

(it wont)

[oblique heron]

Mpreg

[light relic]

40 dollars

[normal lagoon]

I just hope when we get the 5th anniversary, I can somehow get the 3rd/4th anniv stuff

[hard crest]

those extremely expensive event shops came with 20 more that we've never seen nor can, so expect some more 100+ costs

[light relic]

guess we buy more with gems

[simple wadi]

All the event bonuses, or ~all~ the event bonuses including the Black Market + Super Black Market

[normal lagoon]

Even if I gotta pay gems, that's fine. 144% EXP Multi is INSANE to not have access to

[red rapids]

valenslime event giving away free character reset stone?!? thatd be great lol

[light relic]

including

[normal lagoon]

I'd love the reset items just for the Slab 😆

[red rapids]

you can buy them and not use them lol

[normal lagoon]

Yeah I'm not doing that shit given how expensive they are, also you can't buy an Elite Class Swap

Only Subclass (Class 3) and Complete (any class)

[red rapids]

right, i just mean you can buy them, and not use them just get trhe slab from it. but yah it would be nice for a free one from an event so we dont have to waste 1k gems

[light relic]

question is whats next more arcade balls or cosmic balls

[hard crest]

for wheel? could be cosmic or prisma ig

[light relic]

or 1 hour skips

[hard crest]

i hope its not arcade

[light relic]

id love a prisma omg

[hard crest]

has happened, and was a while ago so could happen again... maybe

[light relic]

if prisma spending gems for tickets🤓

[normal lagoon]

I'd love Prisma and Cosmic Balls.

I can only Super one more thing

[hard crest]

hes talked about cycling old nametags before as well, not sure if that would be a thing thats on wheel or fomo tho

[normal lagoon]

Or Limited Specials or who knows; he should though

[hard crest]

only having 1 more arcades insane

[normal lagoon]

FFXIV does a thing where if you miss any past events, they add it to the cash shop, except here it's actual power.

[normal lagoon]

wait what?

[hard crest]

oh can only has in the amount you have, thought you meant all thats left in arcade

[light relic]

so could this be event game or new skill

[normal lagoon]

Oh lol, nah I only have enough cosmic balls for one more super is what I meant

[normal lagoon]

Minesweeper would be on brand for W7...

[light relic]

nvm an hour is skill likely

[normal lagoon]

In fact, we have THREE separate deep ocean mine thingies

(I legitimately have no idea what these things are actually called IRL, I just call em "ocean mine thingies")

[light relic]

Heres the thing

https://tenor.com/view/the-thing-ben-grimm-marvel-marvel-rivals-fantastic-gif-12886213036020997531

[oblique heron]

Which card set should i use if i push with fibers and can't get multikill

Or cards

[normal lagoon]

I've been using Fight AFK when AFKing in W7 personally since MK is dedge.

Also you'll be getting MK Soon™ given the upcoming Meritocracy

[red rapids]

they are called tethered mines

[normal lagoon]

Okay so mine thingies is accurate 👌

[oblique heron]

Dmg merit + kpk ballot

[normal lagoon]

(I legit had no clue if they were actually called mines or not, I just figured they looked like the ones from Minesweeper)

[light relic]

we getting more candles too🤔? maybe i can get a pet this time

[red rapids]

yah theyre boyant, and usually weighed down

[normal lagoon]

I wouldn't be surprised if KpK Ballot is nerfed in W7 too but yeah, it's THE time to push DN/Portals for anyone who still needs to

[light relic]

polar u got a pet from last wish?

[normal lagoon]

I figured that given you always see them floating up from their tethers whenever anything in pop culture uses them

[hard crest]

looks old, from last event

[normal lagoon]

I got the 0.1% nametag on Day 0 and 0 pets even after throwing some green gems at it to try and get a second riptide.

and now I'm just hoarding all my exclusive pets like a dragon on a pile of gold

[light relic]

ah we in the same boat then lol

got my panda hoarded thas it gave away my bunn and hedge

[vale crag]

is there some sort of guide for super talents yet?

[light relic]

yeah just guessing for future

[vale crag]

no sorry, super talents not legend talents

[normal lagoon]

God dammit Lava why did you name them so similar -_-

[vale crag]

yeah -.-

[normal lagoon]

Honestly I just do it based on vibes

Like Talent 7 and 8 for everyone's second tab are really good for damage (the former also good for skilling)

Talent 6 is usually good too, but not so much for Archer

[bleak gazelle]

you can reset supers by just reseting the talent, so just do w/e

[normal lagoon]

Can you imagine if he didn't add redoing Supers?

Cuz it wasn't like that originally, you had to use a potion

[toxic ocean]

https://youtu.be/fo2WwEKsty0

just go to the section where he talks about the class you play and done

or watch whole thing to understand better

@bleak gazelle i got 9 darter

🔨 ❓

[vale crag]

oh yeah i forgot about that video

[normal lagoon]

43:10
To explain the best supers, Griffy?

[toxic ocean]

it's ok

[bleak gazelle]

imagine reading your talents smh

[toxic ocean]

if even 5% inaccurate still works

the stuff that scales linear is the stuff i look at more in super talenting rather than the stuff that decays

griffy just says good ability = super even if decays

but it's fine

[normal lagoon]

I like how he started with SB which I was having a huge issue with adding supers to last night

[toxic ocean]

people shit talk him too much, he may not give the full 100% step by step do this kind of nonsense but he gives a generalized view of how to find the correct thing and make relevant and good choices

helped a lot of people so weird how much hate i see about him

and only from elitists

[bleak gazelle]

i dislike him because his intro is annoying af (common across a lot of YT)
some of his information is inaccurate enough to be a hindrance (and rarely just straight up wrong (maybe earlier on, not sure about now))
he (or his discord) taking resources and not crediting/removing credit from original authors
also people coming in here preaching like he's the messiah
-# which, i get, we all idolize some people, but like go do that in his discord

[dusk knoll]

is there are any benefits to go with seeker or bird over worm when choosing burger ?

[bleak gazelle]

just looks

[dusk knoll]

ok so worm is best then ?

[simple wadi]

I do take everything KaitoJD says as scripture (may He walk again in W5 chat )

[simple wadi]

But the bird has sunglasses.

[bleak gazelle]

i mean if you think worm looks best

[dusk knoll]

it cheapest to upgrade

with genes

[simple wadi]

For what? You already have the next pet. Pet power is mostly factored from breeding level, egg rarity, and a whole host of other random modifiers.

[twin idol]

Finally one third of the way there.

[dusk knoll]

these are the modifiers so genetics multi also have effect on power ?

[red rapids]

thats for affecting pet chance, not power

[faint wigeon]

Nope. Only breeding level, egg rarity and BM talent affect pet power

[dusk knoll]

got it tnx

[normal lagoon]

@vale crag So I'm actually watching this right now and BIG DISCLAIMER: He fucks up some things for sure. He just said WW Talent 14 only good if you're "in WW form" which is just flat out wrong.

[prime compass]

well i guess i wont watch that video then

[normal lagoon]

No it's good if you pay attention and understand he fumbled a few times

Like he gave the "situational yellow scribble" on a few things, but I don't get why he did to talent 14, and I don't get why he didn't to talent 4

Talent 4 does nothing supered if you're not in form IIRC

[prime compass]

yeah it wont do anything

[normal lagoon]

Yeah reindeer does nothing past the first point out of form

Yet he didn't say anything about that

[prime compass]

if 14 is Dustwalker, i dont know why it would be situational

[normal lagoon]

Talent 5 I don't think scales well enough to justify a super; Talent 14 you should absolutely super for more free money if you have it.

[normal lagoon]

POW 10 dust collected = more money mult

He said "only take it in form", which I feel like he should swap 4 and 14

[prime compass]

yeah

[normal lagoon]

I feel like he may have rushed the video a bit

"Firmly Grasp it is free Strength; Strength in Numbers is situational because it's not great for damage"
... Firmly Grasp It would be the equivalent of slapping it on the base Strength upgrade in Tab 1, what the fuck is he on about

[oblique heron]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[normal lagoon]

"Weapon power doesn't scale enough to justify it here" (even though he HAS it supered in the image)

[oblique heron]

damage is bad

[prime compass]

that seems like alot of stuff to have to "pay attention to" if you are trying to figure out what to super

[oblique heron]

https://tenor.com/view/anandoe-gif-13071176676403708606

[normal lagoon]

High Polymer Limbs Unsupered vs Supered, are you telling me THAT MUCH DAMAGE ISN'T WORTH A SUPER, BUT A MEASLY ~110 BASE STAT IS WORTH IT, GRIFFY????????

[simple wadi]

Best super is this.

[prime compass]

that is a very increase, i think 110 base stats is definetly 10/10

[normal lagoon]

Like.

[normal lagoon]

110 base ONE stat

I just took the super off of high polymer limbs (WP scaling) and put it on an AGI talent.

[pastel kayak]

Main last night @simple wadi

[oblique heron]

should i even equip 4 potion going for depth

[normal lagoon]

He's just flat out wrong

[normal lagoon]

Uh yes? You always equip max pots. Put on another Purple or Green

There is literally 0 downside to putting on a second purple there

[prime compass]

on a serious note, should "Weapon Power Effect On Damage" be the next talents that i upgrade with library? i still have them at the base 100

it seems like that might be some untapped damage

[simple wadi]

Less of a chance for the free 5th floor potions to land on the blue potions if he adds another purple =3 So there is ~some~ downside, albeit minor.

[normal lagoon]

Is there? I thought if you double-up on pots they don't have a higher chance of being picked

[bleak gazelle]

there's no reason to not throw at least 1 book on basically every talent

especially for tab 1-4 since you'll have so many spare points

[normal lagoon]

(well except some like Balanced Spirit or Mocking Shout)

[prime compass]

1 maxed out book on Unending Loot Search, here i come

[normal lagoon]

I threw a 364 book at literally everything though cuz I'm sitting on like 400+ books (and 364 is current cap)

[bleak gazelle]

unending loot is great when you can use it

i think i spent 1k last night

[normal lagoon]

[prime compass]

i really wish i would get more power statue drops 🥲 at least i can zenith the others, and then some by the time i unlock it

[simple wadi]

That main better level up faster. Seems like she needs a whoopin for motivation.

[normal lagoon]

So yeah TL;DW on the Griffy video: He goes into some things but don't BLINDLY put points into what he says. It's good, but not perfect.
Absolutely slap a super on the WP talent on Tab 2, Talent 8 for every class's fighting preset.

[pastel kayak]

Gold food farming and other stuff on main and might move to world 7 only got the recipe from world 6 mini boss last night

[normal lagoon]

Okay nvm never watch Griffy ever again

[prime compass]

you know, griffy has some really good points, i might have to learn a thing or 2

[normal lagoon]

I'm at DB so I didn't finish but so far giving the video is C+

[oblique heron]

this was a good run

[normal lagoon]

"Tenteyecle, yes super it cuz we're at 5s now", man doesn't even know it's shadowcapped at 4s

[prime compass]

you gotta get that up to 6s reduction

[oblique heron]

5 seconds 🙀

[red rapids]

i mean wasnt it released 2 months ago? did we have the info about 5s at that point?

[normal lagoon]

Dunno but he definitely needs to redo this

[bleak gazelle]

guess he should've waited, smh
i asked about the tenteyecle chance in autoreview discord on dec 10
so like, shame on me for waiting almost a month to look at it

[tight pollen]

what character should I use for skydoggies?

[sullen parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/ohio-confusion-ishowspeed-speed-ishowmeat-gif-16489795434757475848

[normal lagoon]

New character and he's using a replica nametag

[tight pollen]

luckiest lad?

[tight pollen]

yeah but the stats

[sullen parrot]

idk was still funny

[normal lagoon]

[ivory moth]

do 8 hour and like 60 min traps give multiple shiny critters

[red rapids]

luckiest lad and replica nametag means w7. how are his stats so low if hes in w7

[tight pollen]

all give same amount just higher chance for longer traps

[normal lagoon]

I mean if you have no talents and no gear

I guess they're not using Kruk either

[granite owl]

every single day I hate this

[red rapids]

no alch. no talents. no hole.. no ANYTHING.. and somehow still in w7?

[normal lagoon]

Stop doing it every day then?

[ivory moth]

is 1 the max?

[normal lagoon]

Let it scale the multi

[granite owl]

higher stakes make it WORSE.. Imagine doing gamba and failing with 2x or 3x rewards

[tight pollen]

you can use the prayer for it if you have high shiny chance

[normal lagoon]

Yeah but all the benefits you're getting right now will be instantly outclassed by one run of a high multi, other than Opals

[grave wren]

hi, I just got the luckiest lad
what order should i be putting these in?

[wind dew]

He’s secretly lava

[ivory moth]

i have basically no prayers unlocked, my dumahh didnt do most of the skills until w6

im still unlocking anvil tab 4

[surreal coyote]

What are the circles in the bottom right for

[sullen parrot]

w3 prayers

[tight pollen]

damn you rushed its a good thing if you know what your doing

[ivory moth]

yk it took me a WHILE

because

[surreal coyote]

pizza 1 town 1 has lava flame

if u need achievement

[ivory moth]

i had basically no bonuses

[tight pollen]

you know what is ie auto review?

[oblique heron]

who is this big guy

[ivory moth]

Auto review?

[tight pollen]

it tells you what to focus on

[ivory moth]

never heard of it

[tight pollen]

what about it?

[ivory moth]

i dont know where or what it is

[tight pollen]

if only the achievement was in mobile

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[ivory moth]

ohhh its it

[tight pollen]

yeah you put your it link in IE anto review than it tells you what to focus on

[ivory moth]

hmmm

somethings not quite right

[tight pollen]

??

[ivory moth]

i dont even have a lvl 100 bubble vro

and it says i have a 400m bubble

[sharp raven]

Thats stats page

Not your acc

Go and click on acc then you can check yours

[oblique heron]

okay

[ivory moth]

does anybody have a good build for DB? just overall progress

[ivory moth]

thx

[tight pollen]

talent points?

[alpine rune]

Maybe my critters weren’t doodoo bc now I can finish the last set

[ivory moth]

ye

[tight pollen]

how many talent points you got?

[ivory moth]

only 315 rn but im gonna afk for more xp soon

just so i can plan it out abit

[tight pollen]

if you want to farm bones It's best to get to level 500+ first db gets a lot of damge form talents

just unlock the afk bones and get and unlock ribbon for now

https://youtu.be/GPkbKndWvQw?si=gzRL4a76H4miiBuo

Than watch this its a good guide

[ivory moth]

thx

[alpine rune]

[tight pollen]

I'm still stuck at kruk lol

[alpine rune]

It'll take a while ngl if anything hard focus critters bc that's what's gonna take most of ur time

[tight pollen]

only missing wings

[tight pollen]

don't think I'm getting it any soon with 12 dr

[toxic ocean]

@tight pollen still no marbiglass?

[alpine rune]

Fair

[toxic ocean]

oh u still missing kruk wings?

[tight pollen]

islands are a problem

unlock the worst 3 First

[toxic ocean]

you unlocked the islands in the wrong order?

[tight pollen]

yeah

crystal and random First

[tribal burrow]

I did and now I'm soft locked since I have no access to fishes

[toxic ocean]

pain

[tight pollen]

you can use golden watch

[toxic ocean]

yeah it's been so long and i still don't have all islands

[tight pollen]

I just don't have any

[toxic ocean]

the last island takes so long

[tribal burrow]

It'll generate me more bottles? It's last island I'm missing

[tight pollen]

I think so yeah I read somewhere it does

[toxic ocean]

@tribal burrow will take a lot of watches tho

reaching 500 when you generate 8 a day

[tribal burrow]

I'll have to get some when they appear then

[toxic ocean]

pain

[tribal burrow]

I'll push garbage island to produce more maybe as well

[toxic ocean]

lava needs to add some kind of boost to it, just takes too long if you do the wrong order

[tribal burrow]

Yeah

[tight pollen]

there is a bundle for it

[tribal burrow]

If I didn't take 7 months break I'd have it sorted by now so yeah

[toxic ocean]

@tight pollen how does that help you though lowkey

even with the bundle it takes so long and im f2p

but i didn't go wrong order so im fine with my 5/6

[tight pollen]

true

[toxic ocean]

it's more for you guys

[tight pollen]

Me too I'm a f2p

[pastel kayak]

Bad bad bad bad @toxic ocean alert

[oblique heron]

@toxic ocean

[toxic ocean]

oh im trying to get that lantern one also

[oblique heron]

just missing winner bonuses pristine for max book

[toxic ocean]

yah~

[oblique heron]

slabbing

[pastel kayak]

Bad @oblique heron is number 2 on trouble maker in server and game list now

[oblique heron]

Not number 1 anymore? 🥲

[pastel kayak]

Nope not today so far

[ruby heron]

any tips how to beat pincermin arcane cultist 🤔?

[red rapids]

check the arcane cultist guide

[safe ferry]

hey i just unlocked arcane cultist and wanted to ask if prisma bubble can drop infinitly

[split meteor]

you need to manually play.. drop 2 or 3 skulls per platform and move to the next one, if you cant get it level up arcane charging, also if you put your arcane crystal on the top left platform - when you attack arcane mobs you'll summon multiple skulls at once

[red rapids]

yes, but with scaling. starts off 1 in 300ish mobs, scales up to like 1 in a million

[ruby heron]

im almost at the same tesseract upgrades as my friend which is already in w4 although i dont have w3..

[oblique heron]

you need 400 lvl talents to pass w2 w3 comfortably on ac

[ruby heron]

do u mean the one next to the portal or the top left where it has npcs???

[red rapids]

Pincer Plateau - The Pincermin Wall

The size and amount of platforms on this map can require some strategy to move through

• You should remove Cranium Cooking from your ability bar like with any tough map
• Having your auto attack on but manually clicking the Raise Dead talent can provide more consistent uses of that skill to spawn more mobs
• At lower talent levels you should farm enough tachyon's to max you tenteyecle back to 75%+ before attempting this map

There are two methods to increase mob spawns and help clear the map:

• form a party with friends on the map to spawn extra mobs
• equipping the giant and glitterbug prayers with a choco chip can provide many more spawns

SUB 350 TALENTS
Damage: 27k
Accuracy: 100%
Crit chance: 15%
Arcane charging: 177

There are reports of the above stats clearing the map with auto on and no manual movement while clicking raise dead on cooldown & using crystal placement/ability bar shown below

**NOTE: The following strategy is experimental based on two reports of low talent clears

If you have info that could help optimize the strategy please contact me**

IT IS INTENDED TO HAVE AUTO ON WHILE DOING THE METHOD

https://imgur.com/EoOl6DJ

[ruby heron]

i unironically have like way higher stats with sub 350 talents than i needed

[faint wigeon]

Get 600+ talent points helps a lot

[split meteor]

the one with portal on it will allow every auto attack to summon multiple skulls but the guide says put it on the top right so

[red rapids]

then follow the method it shows

[ruby heron]

i definetly will

[red rapids]

i can say i sortve followed this method, mine was a little more precise. had to lower the max level of the skull duration in AC tab, and i cast skull on top right and bottom left, and auto attacked the top left and bottom right

sounds complicated but i can say it worked. i cast raise dead inbetween the top two, and after i had killed bottom right

1 skull per platform, move onto the next

[oblique heron]

almost

[faint wigeon]

Ah right 700 mb

[warped pelican]

Is the glitterbug needed?

[faint wigeon]

Context?
More details?
Needed for?

Mb I was rude

[oblique heron]

i guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

[warped pelican]

Glitterbug for chance at crystal spawns during the pincerman map for more kills

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-gif-17107198320750065280

[warped pelican]

Okay good, cause I can not get it yet

[ruby heron]

do i just run crystal build for this?

[split meteor]

imaginging doing arcane cultits with super talents seems too easy xD

[ruby heron]

little do you know..

[faint wigeon]

The fuck crystal gonna do? They don’t spawn anyway

[ruby heron]

ah shi mb

[faint wigeon]

[split meteor]

ya xD imagingnig a lvl 400 tenteyecle for all those maps that we had to struggle through with lvl 300 almost seems unfair xD

[faint wigeon]

Correction, the emperor*

[tender peak]

lmao gg

[acoustic ether]

Hi, someone here that would be so nice and send me friend bonuses? I am in World 1 Town Server Peanut 2

[dawn atlas]

For gaming, is it better to select and grow certain plants or just hit harvest all

[hard crest]

depends on what you're doing

if its just bits, then cycle claiming all

[faint wigeon]

I’d click 🤷‍♂️

https://tenor.com/view/click-gif-24475537

[dawn atlas]

Oki, thank ya!

[red rapids]

crystal build?

[faint wigeon]

Forget it. No crystal in arcanist anyway

[red rapids]

what?

[faint wigeon]

What?

[red rapids]

what do you mean arcanist doesnt have a crystal?

[faint wigeon]

Crystal mob

[red rapids]

ohhhhh

[hard crest]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[faint wigeon]

Uh there be that. I recall seeing another version of that but idk where it is

[sullen parrot]

does the drop rate thing give 20x then?

[oblique heron]

this is still the best quest in the game

[sullen parrot]

this weapon so tuff

[oblique heron]

kruk looks cooler

[red rapids]

kruk set looks 100% better

[faint wigeon]

Is additive and yeah 20x DR

[sullen parrot]

how is that S? unless im missing something, the lab and sailing upgrade does that

[faint wigeon]

Not really

https://imgur.com/a/llyQoh7

[sullen parrot]

ah one gives the effect itself and one the exp gain

[faint wigeon]

Uh if you say so

[sullen parrot]

i got it wrong? :(

[normal lagoon]

At best, you can give shrines EXP in the same world that they're in without the legend point. With the point, you GLOBALLY give EXP to shrines.

[faint wigeon]

shrine alone : bonus + exp to map only
lab node : if shrine in town of a world, bonus+exp on all map of that world
artifact : exp to map only and bonus on every map of every world
lab+art : do the math

thats it thats that🤷‍♂️

[normal lagoon]

Lab+Art is basically the effects are global, but EXP is only for the same world you have the shrines placed in
Lab + Art + Legend = All effects + exp global

(also there's one other bonus that isn't talked about: Shrines typically lose ALL EXP of the current level when you move them; I forget what, but something in the game removes this penalty)

[sullen parrot]

jade upgrade iirc...?

[normal lagoon]

That's what I was thinking too

Yep

[prime compass]

yeah jade emporium

[sullen parrot]

but thank you i got it now

ill probably get to w7 in a few days

1 zillion drop rate 🤑

[red rapids]

that emporium purchase was game changing lol no more being forced to sit in a world because it took 30000 hours to level it and you didnt want to lose 25000 hours you already put it lol

[prime compass]

i never actually ended up using it

[normal lagoon]

Also I'm sure someone out there lurking thinking "so what? Shrines are whatever anyway", think again. They're one of the most important factors for Crystal mobs, almost equivalent to a max ranked, Omega chipped & legend-point bolstered Genie card.

[prime compass]

i've just had my shrines in w4 since i unlocked it

[sullen parrot]

man how ur shrine levels that big

[normal lagoon]

28 isn't even that big

[sullen parrot]

im trying to get 140 for equinox at least

[normal lagoon]

also all the ones I have leveled further via W7 dancing coral are close to 29 👌

[prime compass]

do you need shrine architect on your bar to get the faster charging, or is just putting points in enough?

[normal lagoon]

I would assume just points. The active part of the skill is just to move them

[sullen parrot]

[prime compass]

wht section is shrines under?

[sullen parrot]

account

[prime compass]

i was so happy to finally hit the 140

[sullen parrot]

ggs teach me how

theres a ballot shrine exp multiplier pretty much guaranteed next week as well

[lapis crane]

Im confused, why was the first blue summoning boss significantly harder than the first purple boss? I assumed it was increasingly more difficult from white to cyan but that seems to be incorrect

[red rapids]

did you face them back to back?

[lapis crane]

yes blue then purple

[red rapids]

yes, but i mean back to back, no upgrading etc in betwen?

[lapis crane]

oh, yea i didnt upgrade anything between them

[red rapids]

its been a while since ive done those fights, but yah some of the difficulties do swing randomly

[lapis crane]

like iirc the blue was 70k dmg 20m hp and the purple was 16k dmg 8m hp

im sure about 3 of the 4 I just cant remember for sure what the blues dmg was

[bleak gazelle]

lul, yeah

idk, blame lava

[sullen parrot]

this it the first time ive got this in bravery 🤔

[small estuary]

Do I need to have the lab connected for shrines. For the the sailing artifact to work everywhere?

[sullen parrot]

read a few messages ago about it, i asked a few minutes ago as well lol

[small estuary]

Oh okay I see it. I have one guy pushing w5 and the rest are in lab with shrines in w4. Once you get the artifact. You dont need to have that lab part connected. My stats are the same either way

[patent nexus]

what does elimination mean in the grimoire of the db?

[prime compass]

if i rememember correctly, its the one where you have to kill 200 mobs in like 60 seconds or something?

[hard crest]

[prime compass]

wait no, i think thats the one where you have to kill all the mobs before they respawn

[hard crest]

make sure to remove graveyard from hotbar

[acoustic ridge]

yo so i got doot but like now does it matter what god i have on my chars and then witch one wshould i use?

[patent nexus]

yes i did this now

tahnks <3

[patent nexus]

that doesnt count

[bleak gazelle]

https://imgur.com/a/7pSVg76

[prime compass]

were all of the mobs alive when you started?

[patent nexus]

no

[prime compass]

they need to all be alive when you start, and then you need to kill all of them before they respawn

[potent panther]

do kunais become useless after unlocking every character in sneaking?

[patent nexus]

does it have to be in wraith form ?

[prime compass]

...yes

[normal lagoon]

Y'know what I'd love to see out of SB's MC? A focus on Crystal mobs and Looting. I think it would fit a Pirate-themed class very well, especially given Archers already have a base +DR talent just for being an Archer. Every one of the jobs should have some identity that they're best at IMO.

• AC: Alchemy (Cranium Cooking), fastest map-clearer, IMO the current best respawn mechanic in the game.
• DB: Highest KpK, so best at pushing Portal/DN
• WW: Breeding and Forge Progression (this one's kinda weak TBH, I'd give WW something slightly more if possible)

The 3 other base job MCs, I'm not entirely sure what their focuses should be, but I'd like to take a crack at it:

• SB: Focus on DR and Crystal mobs.
• ES: Focus on highest damage (best at MK [farming base, non-rare resources] and killing bosses); also should be something else for Worship (Worship/TD may need to change as a result).
• DK: This is where I'm kinda stumped since it currently has the DR+Crystal focus, but that really fits SB more, so I'm kinda at a loss on what DK's MC could push to focus on, other than even further Construction, and maybe just being an all-rounder that doesn't have any particular focus.
  • It currently is the best Crystal farmer
  • It currently has one of the highest DRs
  • Its map-clearing and respawning is only second to AC

[prime compass]

yes they do, but upgarding the kunai thing still helps with the cost reduction from windwalker

[spare talon]

Thanks for asking about this! I have unused legend points because I suck when it comes to spending points on things in this game. Off to W7. :)

[oblique heron]

Big p

Now that i think about it sb mc eill likely give 6th artifact tier

[hard crest]

?..

[oblique heron]

Cuz

Sb lame

[prime trellis]

do you get jade from sneaking on the first floor? not sure if i soft locked myself or just need to wait more hours. i need to buy something from the shop, but i spent all my jade on sneaking upgrades 😭

[hard crest]

why does dr n crystals fit sb more? dk has a personal dr buff while sb has an account wide buff

[oblique heron]

Cuz he's a pirate

[spare talon]

Thematically, I think he means?

[prime trellis]

if no, do i just need to keep dying on 2nd floor until door is opened before i can get more jade?

[hard crest]

what id assume is the reasoning as talents wouldnt make sense, but even so that wouldnt make much sense either

[patent nexus]

it still didnt counted

[stark harbor]

I stopped getting charred bones while AFKing and have no idea why :/

[spare talon]

You can get more jade while dying on the second floor. They'll "wake up" while you're AFK and try again. It gets easier fairly quickly!

[prime compass]

are you afking against mobs? he has to be fighting, just like the other mcs

[prime trellis]

ah ok, the ghost told me i couldnt get xp/jade while breaking the door so i thought i might be stuck

[stark harbor]

Ahhh I didn't realize. Last time I played before ~2 weeks ago was before any of the mcs had come out, so I'm still on the learning curve lol. Really appreciate it!!

[prime compass]

you can just unequip the nunchucks to make it so they arent breaking the door if you want to level on a floor

[spare talon]

I just picked a couple of people to break the door, and let the other ones sit there.

[prime trellis]

oo yea i should do that

i just want to open the portal so i can kill stuff lol

[prime trellis]

i only have one 😭

[spare talon]

Ohh, don't try to open the next door quite yet then? Just leave him there to level up, and get a little jade. :)

[prime trellis]

im just trying to follow the tutorial quest lol

being an over achiever and upgrading stuff too soon when that jade was needed to buy the thing in shop

[normal lagoon]

• Pirate-themed
• Plunderous is a DR mechanic, same as Orb/Portal.
• I could see Plunderous Crystals being a thing.
• SB has no other real identity, and it's a PIRATE. It should be DR-focused since "Booty" and "Loot" is what Pirates are ALL ABOUT.

[spare talon]

This isn't a "killing stuff" kinda game mechanic, like there are no monsters to kill in Sneaking. It's untying, breaking down doors, and looting jade/charms/gear, basically.

[prime trellis]

you have to do the quest before you can leave w6 town

[hard crest]

so remove DKs thing so SB can have a thing

ig if we change DR to plunderous than say that plundering is a pirate thing and SBs a pirate then we could say DRs an SB thing

[spare talon]

Just do some W4 stuff or something for a bit? Your actual character doesn't need to be in W5 to do the sneaking stuff.

[prime compass]

i dont think the plunderous thing is as good as the dk thing for drops, since the drops are only increased on the plunderous mob that spawns, but idk

[prime trellis]

yeah im doing other stuff but i want to see the new world lol

also i thought i could get master classes

[hard crest]

archers dont get a buff to gfood % like warrors do, so it wouldnt be of much use to make SB a DR main

[spare talon]

I hate the locks in new towns, so I get it. Won't take too long, though.

[spare talon]

Masterclasses are W6. :/

[keen bough]

whats a sprinkler?

[prime trellis]

yeah sneaking is w6 lol

[spare talon]

Jesus. I need more sleep. lol.

[prime compass]

its one of the things you unlock in gaming that spawns plants

[prime compass]

masterclasses are in map 4

[sullen parrot]

np and yeah same especially when its stuff that you probably cant refund lol

[prime trellis]

ugh, so annoying but its my own fault 😭

[keen bough]

ty

[spare talon]

That is partly why I waited, because I'd read they couldn't be reset. Kai was helping me and pointed out some good ones to add points to, but I hadn't gotten around to reading yet.

[topaz lagoon]

I'm looking what to do for improving my damage for W7 like a to do list

[spare talon]

I got super annoyed at waiting for sneaking, though I think in the long run it took maybe a day to get through?

[sullen parrot]

theres no correlation

[prime compass]

you obviously havent ever heard of the chinese art of "cultivation"

[prime trellis]

itd be done instantly with no wait if i didnt spend my jade on upgrades not realizing it was the same currency lol

[oblique heron]

https://tenor.com/view/standing-on-top-enlightened-enlightenment-windy-wind-gif-18416422945658579589

[topaz lagoon]

I'm looking what to do for improving my damage for W7 like a to do list

[north perch]

panicking now

[toxic ocean]

you can do it~

[prime compass]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-memes-gif-12046621880058457271

[north perch]

@toxic ocean

[normal lagoon]

I'm not saying to remove anything from DK, I'm just saying "I think general DR/Crystals could be an SB mechanic moreso than other classes".
DK can still Orb +DR and Crystal Farm as it always has been, but I think SB's MC should get some kind of mechanic change to make DR even better on them and crystal mobs, because what the fuck else does SB have right now

[split meteor]

gg

[north perch]

@toxic ocean @toxic ocean @toxic ocean @toxic ocean @toxic ocean @toxic ocean @toxic ocean @toxic ocean

[toxic ocean]

LETS GO!

[tribal burrow]

Congrats!

[sullen parrot]

so pro

[north perch]

@toxic ocean honestly i wouldn't have even tried to do it if not for you getting it so im happy

[toxic ocean]

[normal lagoon]

DK has Construction, DK has loot farming (second best to ES at common mats/drops, literally #1 at Rare+ loot bags), it clears maps like crazy (second only to AC) with one of the best respawn mechanics (second again to AC).
Hell I wouldn't be surprised if RG has a "Kills prog Construction" talent similar to Archers having a Kills prog Forge/Hunters progging Breeding talent.

[toxic ocean]

now you switch to hearto too

[north perch]

deal

[normal lagoon]

@hard crest Look at all of this and tell me why SB can't have DR/Crystals better than DK can? DK would STILL BE GOOD at farming drops/crystals, but SB would be a bit better, that way SB has a purpose and DK still has plenty of other things it's very good at.

[north perch]

done

[oblique heron]

Imagine not being ram smh

[normal lagoon]

Because I'll tell you one thing SB can't do: Map Clear. It's only good at single-platform horizontal lines and that's it, and even then, DK beats it out because Statues and Shockwaves.

[split meteor]

does 9 darter need to be 9 bulllsseyyes in a row or?

[hard crest]

I dont think you should force a mechanic already mainde by another toon just so it has something, he'll just make it buff a few skills like every other MC

[split meteor]

well thats ridicilious haha ill never get it frik

[normal lagoon]

It's not "forcing" a mechanic, Archers have always had +DR since becoming an Archer, and if you ask me what the first thing I think of when I hear "Pirate", besides the obvious "guns, cutlass, and the cool hats/boats", it would be "Loot/Booty"

[prime trellis]

most ive gotten is 4 bullseyes in a row lol

[zinc torrent]

Wasnt around before BM got WW MC, eh?

[normal lagoon]

I've been here for almost 4 months, so no I wasn't lol

[hard crest]

idk where you keep getting this from - nothing about archers is +DR for specifically archers lmao

[red rapids]

it would be nice to see SB get some dr booster of some kind. like when flag hits 100 it spawns the mob without taking the 25 coins, and the higher flag number is the higher dr they have or something

[hard crest]

the only toons that have a DR advantage in idleon are warriors IE DB and DK

[normal lagoon]

Okay I guess I'm just IMAGINING this talent in my head then

[hard crest]

alright if we talk about an additive tiny buff from w4 then fair enough

[void shell]

idk but plunders already give a super high dr

[normal lagoon]

It's still an identity.

[void shell]

It's like 100x or something

[hard crest]

its not, you're just forcing a concept

[normal lagoon]

It's pretty crazy yeah, but it's ONLY for Plunderous mobs

[prime trellis]

people saying sb sucks at clearing but its definitely my best farmer 😭

[normal lagoon]

It's good at single platform horizontal lines, and DK still clears better.

[hard crest]

vman has one too and gets skill xp reduce from crystals, if anything he'd fit your build in question more then anyone else lol

[oblique heron]

Why are you thinkies of booties

[prime trellis]

see i feel like DK is only good on single horizontal platform, whereas sb can kill stuff above and below it

[normal lagoon]

Unless Lava wants to flip the script of VMan's concept, it was never intended to be a combat specialist outside of Void Run and Bosses.

[normal lagoon]

Mongorang says hi.

[hard crest]

SB has an additive buff and an account wide multi - I dont see how that over power DKs orb (multi) and additional gfood buff

[normal lagoon]

I'm saying "SB's MC should push the concept further" since SB is not #1 at literally anything, yet DK still has an MC to come and it's #1 or #2 in MANY things.

[red rapids]

wait. are you saying SB isnt a pirate? and that we're forcing that identidy?

[hard crest]

no ones said that? lmao

[red rapids]

up here

[prime trellis]

if your SB isnt wearing the premium pirate hat, is it really even a SB

[hard crest]

Im saying theres no point in making a useless toon the new main for DR and crystals just so "it has an identity" thats dumb

[normal lagoon]

I was so upset when the SB hat was the bugged one cuz it was the one I wanted immediately lol

Idk SB just makes me upset cuz I LOVE Pirate as a class theme, and yet SB sucks

Not quite BB levels of suckage, but it sucks

[split meteor]

i can definitely hit green 9 times in a row

[prime trellis]

BB is weird because it seems like it should suck, but its my far by best killer

2-3x the afk kills of others

[spare talon]

Some days I can throw over the entire board nine times in a row.

[empty bane]

had 709m build rate when Iwoke up, i have 550m now... why is this?

[split meteor]

bb has a really stronk talrnt

[normal lagoon]

It's #1 at AFK killing, but that's it. Active play it's one of the worst jobs in the game

[prime trellis]

am i forgetting one? the explodey one is nice but it still takes it ages to kill if active

[red rapids]

possible decline in your red salts

[normal lagoon]

But even BB has something it's #1 at, while SB doesn't 😭

[empty bane]

thats it 100% thanks.

[split meteor]

ya there a talent gives bonus kills

[empty bane]

cant keep track of everything my gosh

[hard crest]

BB (DB)s got goated ladle gains too

[prime trellis]

ahh, right the warrior tab has a multikill skill too

[normal lagoon]

I was mostly talking combat-based because comparing skill-based is, quite a thing, but yeah.

[normal lagoon]

No, Barbarian (Class 3) does. Not Warrior (Class 2)

[red rapids]

id like to see the SB class lean more into melee weapons. cutlass, bleeds, etc

[prime trellis]

er yeah barb

[patent nexus]

how do i get the eliminationstacks in the grimioar of db?

[prime trellis]

bubo worst class? lowest afk and active kills 😭

[normal lagoon]

Every class [sans VMan] has a Class 4 talent that is the EXACT same thing (just different stats), but BB/DB has a Class 3 talent too, which is what makes them #1.

[red rapids]

worst afk, best active

[hard crest]

na SBs definitely worst

[normal lagoon]

Bubo is not worst at active killing, ain't no way.

[prime trellis]

hmm my bubo is useless

[normal lagoon]

You're playing Bubo wrong then

[empty bane]

U need to put abilities on the bar in order

[hard crest]

its just about how much love you show each toon

[prime trellis]

it poisons the screen then i wait like 30 seconds for them to die

[red rapids]

it starts to shine once you get tent to 200

[normal lagoon]

Change the order of your skills, and REMOVE the Tampered Injection/Energy Bolt talents from your bars

[zinc torrent]

That is dmg issue

[normal lagoon]

Skill order should be (Arcane Crystal >) Cranium Cooking > Raise Dead > Sizzling Skull > Doesn't matter past that
(Crystal doesn't really matter, I just like it at #1)

[red rapids]

put ghost, skull, canister on your bar. in that order. you'll starting killing

[normal lagoon]

(pre-AC, you can put Skull further down; post-AC, it should be your first talent after raise dead)

[red rapids]

i put fart cloud first, then i dont need canister on my AC lol

[normal lagoon]

Canister is kinda trash

I think my order is AC > CC > RD > Skull > Fart > Aura

[oblique heron]

Bubo sucks

[normal lagoon]

Canister is on like Bar 2 or 3 somewhere

Bubo doesn't suck, it just has a much higher skill floor than other classes and requires talent levels
(well, more "knowledge floor")

[trim summit]

took every candy i had, but finally got to W7, woo

[red rapids]

cc - rd - fart - skull. it works for me lol

[oblique heron]

So he sucks until he doesn't

[zinc torrent]

Eh, it can still be useful. Put it on bar, use it, enter the map, then take it off.

[normal lagoon]

When pushing deeper in AC form, you will want Skull higher, trust

[red rapids]

get ready to feel incredibly inadequate as your prog into w7

[split meteor]

gggggg

[red rapids]

i find if i put ghost further down, it skips casting it, then i have no poison on the ground

[normal lagoon]

Arcanist form is limited by how much damage they can deal to beefy Arcane mobs in W6, so you need the extra skulls

[normal lagoon]

That's not completely a problem though if mobs are melting anyway

Plus, more poison = laggier game

[red rapids]

lollll

[normal lagoon]

Speaking of lag, I pray W7p2 comes with an option to turn off damage numbers like in Worship. I honestly think that would be a very good bandage fix to the current lag issue

[red rapids]

i just tap r over and over to add more skulls on the screen

[spare talon]

I got stuck at the snails, where I was only getting 4k AFK. I've gone back to sort of...shore up my foundations on a bunch of earlier stuff I skipped.

[red rapids]

sameeee.. after snails are balloonfish, and somehow theyre EASIER to kill and give almost DOUBLE the xp lmao

[normal lagoon]

The entirety of IdleOn:

• Pushing into a new world
• Wanting to explore new world
• New world too slow to prog. Go back to old world stuff
• Come back to new world days later and be astonished at how quick you prog it
• Clear new world, rinse-repeat for the new new world

[spare talon]

The flip side of that is I have almost 3x the damage (and slowly climbing) in the past 7-8 days, so I'll get there.

[normal lagoon]

I would argue 99% of players follow this pattern until they are caught up with the latest world

[red rapids]

you forgot to add, complain about new skill being garbage, before praising it after you prog it enough that it triples your dmg

[normal lagoon]

Bad time to claim that given Spelunking has no damage increase (IIRC)

[prime trellis]

i still hate cooking 🤣

[spare talon]

Here's hoping! lol.

[normal lagoon]

Okay wait that's not true, it indirectly does push damage through buffing OTHER skills.

[red rapids]

isnt there a new tier of relics you can get via spelunking?

[normal lagoon]

GET INB4'd

[red rapids]

yahhh

[normal lagoon]

(also meals)

((also sigils))

[red rapids]

spelunking definetly pushes the dmg and stuff

[normal lagoon]

Indirectly, but yes.

[empty bane]

Does this not affect gaming?

[normal lagoon]

My brain was only thinking about the upgrade shop, I completely forgot about the boss bonuses

[spare talon]

I hated cooking until about 10 days ago when I suddenly maxed out (to 60 at the time) everything I had spices for in about an hour one morning. That included getting a bunch of new recipes. It was wild.

[red rapids]

im saving up for the auto button in gem shop. i hate spelunking -.-

[normal lagoon]

No idea but it shouldn't be used. Use the other one instead (Skilled Dimwit)

[zinc torrent]

On the other side:

Progress new content as its released.

Wait for new update while doing daily tasks.

Wait for new content while logging in every few day.

Wait for new content...

[normal lagoon]

Lol yeah I'm now hitting that wall

[void shell]

Is that so

[normal lagoon]

It's why I'm currently pushing everyone from Lv 11XX to 1200

[void shell]

[normal lagoon]

Cuz like, wtf else am I gonna do

[void shell]

A lot probably

[zinc torrent]

Auto spelunk is trash ngl

[red rapids]

oh no why

[split meteor]

plunderer mobs 🙂

[normal lagoon]

While true, the Gem Shop bonus comes with POW increase

[void shell]

But it's so close to a new update (allegedly), so it doesn't feel worthwhile to do anything

[normal lagoon]

I mean I'm also getting that through leveling SB to 1200 currently...

[split meteor]

nice

[prime trellis]

im currently spending 2-3 weeks per recipe trying to unlock one, and keep getting the same recipe ive already discovered 😭

[normal lagoon]

True but having those legend points READY TO GO just in case he hits us with the bottom row of talents...

[zinc torrent]

1. It doesn't clear and
2. It doesn't clear every 5th for elixir

[jagged turret]

I have 376% monument afk bonus and all my monuments at 2k. Is it worth pushing them more right now and if so which first?

[red rapids]

wait what... what does it do then?

[normal lagoon]

Wait til you have Level 111 in every meal and you make 0 prog outside of No Meal Left Behind

[void shell]

Only use auto when like... you do mail farm

[normal lagoon]

Never Use Auto
FTFY

[void shell]

Manual is better but that's insanity

It's like 2-3h of spelunking

[hard crest]

manual - 1 hour juice run
auto - insta done and free till next week

[spare talon]

...Looking forward to it?

[normal lagoon]

It is kinda nice to be "done" with cooking though tbh

[simple wadi]

A) It uses potions that normally you'd save to a later point, such as red pots, white pots, and blue pots.
B) It doesn't clear the map of all objects, so you miss out on the boost to amber from that.
C) It doesn't clear the map, so you miss out on some of the free potions every 5 maps.

[normal lagoon]

D) It doesn't always kill the boss, so you miss out on 1-3 elixirs.

[red rapids]

am i supposed to be clearing the map of all objects? ive been finding the hole as soon as possible and trying to go as deep as possible to kill the boss?

[normal lagoon]

PS: I made a whole slew of suggestions to fix Auto/Spelunking in general:
#player-suggestions message
(the post is a bit too old to matter upvoting though)

[paper heron]

how much time has to pass for sprouts to reach tier 8? I've gotten all sprout mutations to tier 6

[void shell]

Depends on aim

[normal lagoon]

It is integral for Amber runs once you have this

[simple wadi]

So there's four types of delves: One to kill the boss, one to get a new biggest haul of amber, and one to go as deep as possible, one to get grand discoveries. You can ignore objects when going deep, but you want to clear everything when getting amber.

[normal lagoon]

You missed #4: GDisc (kind of a variant of a Depth run though)

[red rapids]

ughhh.. ok. so i should be clearing maps for now

[zinc torrent]

GD and depth are same run

[normal lagoon]

<Image Above> if doing an Amber run
<image linked below> You also have this that EVERY run type should be doing

[red rapids]

i despise spelunking lmao

[normal lagoon]

Okay yeah you're a little too early to be worrying about the things we're talking about

[dusk marten]

I just got to w7 should start doing spelunking

[normal lagoon]

At some point absolutely. Don't forget to level it via the "nodes" in W7 maps too

[dusk marten]

My account is so cooked. I have to backtrack so many stuff lol I rushed to w7

[jagged turret]

That’s the strat

[simple wadi]

Yeah I've been noticing I'm getting luckier just doing amber runs than I am using the white potions and strictly going for grand discoveries. I got my 4th grand discovery from the rustbelt couple days ago.

[normal lagoon]

You and the 99% rest of us.

[empty bane]

rushing is good dw, just backtrack and do everything 🙂

[normal lagoon]

@dusk marten My EVERYTHING was in shambles by the time I got to W7, but I went back and cleaned shit up. Trust, you can always recover.

[jagged turret]

Never forget to claim your equinox

[dusk marten]

Should I get 2100 lab for the 3 jewels you unlock from ninja ?

[jagged turret]

It’s easier to clean the further you push!

[normal lagoon]

If you already got Lab Bling, yes. (also I'm sorry for your loss)

[jagged turret]

Yeah 100%

[dusk marten]

Ok back to the lab grind

[jagged turret]

And div grind

Don’t forget your god ranks