lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[stray snow]

fair its taken me maybe 6 hrs to get from green feather to 8 fractal lol

[nocturne patrol]

fish is painful to up

[proper solstice]

this took ~20 mins at most

vault makes this speedy compared to waht it used to be

[fluid nest]

is there a build guide for db?

[stray snow]

yeah im already back here

[proper solstice]

I assume the 2hrs were u doing something else and not too focused bc I went from ~1 fractal to like 10 in 2 hrs w/ vault 11+ take forever tho

[stray snow]

got to fractal 6 and then went to bed lol basically

[proper solstice]

at ~26 I stop and do it daily

[bleak gazelle]

trickz updated his w1 pin just fyi

[stray snow]

e26?

[proper solstice]

starts taking too long

[proper solstice]

e30

[stray snow]

ah u stop at e30 ok

[proper solstice]

lvl 26 on normal reset

its when it starts taking LOONG

[stray snow]

im at lvl 21 on freather restart rn

make that 22

[faint wigeon]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1330702925294735360

[proper solstice]

yea I dony even comment on 1-26 at this point bc they are relatively fast

[stray snow]

yeah i noticed that

how much shiny are u at?

[proper solstice]

shiny feather?

562

[stray snow]

ah right so it does take a bit to get

[proper solstice]

I stop about here

w/ active and go daily

you can tell I do this a bit bc of the e38 w/ the cost reduct on those 2(previous megafeather was 1.4e38 ish for me)

[faint wigeon]

oh damn didn't realize we could reset it

[proper solstice]

reason for this
drop rate!!!

[stray snow]

fr ive incrased my dr but a lot

[proper solstice]

divinity xp rate is so much less painful after lvl 5 for a while huh

this is taking a bit at 470 rn

[stray snow]

yeah all my guys are in lab/div jail rn

[proper solstice]

6/8 of mine are in div jail

1 is being silly

[stray snow]

ive got nothing else to do rn

[proper solstice]

for deathnote

and the other is my mman questing(hes about to join div jail)

[stray snow]

yeah i got vman in 2 days or 3

[glad isle]

gamble with 5%

[proper solstice]

nah im taking this 100%

[glad isle]

trust me on this one

gambling is fun go

gamble

[near lichen]

But if you get the 1 in 20 odds you spend a twentieth of the points!

[glad isle]

sleep then

[stray snow]

trust do the low % ive gotten all my guys from the 1-5%

[proper solstice]

(1-1/20)^20 is only 35% tho so 1 - (1-1/20)^20 ~= a mere 65%

[stray snow]

wdym sleep?\

[glad isle]

aren't they in jail

maybe not all of em

[stray snow]

yeah

all are in jail to get 75/50

[near lichen]

What is that math

[proper solstice]

odds of failure for 20 rolls at 5%

[near lichen]

But I said if you get the 1 in 20

[stray snow]

ive gotten some gods first try at 5%

[glad isle]

just gamble

[proper solstice]

Its statistics stuff

[glad isle]

whats the worst

[proper solstice]

tho on the simpler side

[near lichen]

Nah that's probability not statistics

-A pedant

[proper solstice]

ty for englishing this better

[glad isle]

be w

[proper solstice]

still

[glad isle]

non math people when math

[proper solstice]

Id rather get the garunteed 100% than fight a 35% fail rate for the same cost

[nocturne patrol]

a good artifact finally, time to retake print

[glad isle]

be lucky

[stray snow]

u do know it changes when u do the low %

[proper solstice]

im not though

[stray snow]

or am i just wrong

[near lichen]

I think 50%s are where I'd consider it

[glad isle]

do it

nah instead of 50 better go 100

[near lichen]

75% to take approximately the same or less

[glad isle]

trust

[glad isle]

which is this
what island

[raven wren]

Suggesitons on enhancements, er that whole section really.

[faint wigeon]

frost island

[near lichen]

Ofc I hit the like 1 in 16 chance for four failures the first time I tried doing that

[glad isle]

ty

[proper solstice]

ive failed better odds than rolling 5% 20 times and failing all 20 b4 many times

[nocturne patrol]

y frost island

[proper solstice]

just did a normal roo reset

I got a long way b4 I do mega resets again

yes my normal resets are that far behind

140+ points per reset now tho

increasing each time

[nocturne patrol]

how much megafish do u have with 12 reset ?

[proper solstice]

fractal 7

[nocturne patrol]

i'm at 6 with 6 reset, i should do more reset i guess

[proper solstice]

about same I should say I take FOREVER for each reset

but beeg point gain and the bonuses for each mega arnt that big(compared to bonuses from poppy) at this point

[nocturne patrol]

idk wat is a good number of point for do a reset

[proper solstice]

I do atleast 120 per at this point but I tend to do 130-135+

if u want faster prog lower # = better

slowest part for my points per reset at this point is this

my standards for resets are probably a bit absurd

[glad isle]

i forgot half my peeps are in jail 😭

[glad isle]

i should not ignore earlier idlands thats why

i just get 1 and next island

[proper solstice]

atleast tell me you went for the speed and arti chance for sailing artifacts b4 moving on

[hollow nest]

Just unlocked sovereign artifacts but every chest has like 0.02% chance lmao

[proper solstice]

Now for the worst part of this

its just daily checks from here w/ tar pit and shinies being the major setback

[faint wigeon]

yep classic art chance when you unlock sov
if you unlocked justice get art chance from that

[proper solstice]

my arti chance lowest ive seen so far is 1%

and I got 0 in like 40 tries(w/ many at the 5% mark(the ones not being the ancient ones))

I want this

[glad isle]

don't question my captains

they are captains for a reason

[proper solstice]

holding off on it bc arti chance is nice

[neat siren]

new gold nugget multi!!

lucky 7 11

[faint wigeon]

not that great of a dmg boost compared to other artifact

[hollow nest]

is 210% the base or the quadrupled?

[neat siren]

quadrupled

[proper solstice]

I got 2 dudes on this rn going for arti chance

[faint wigeon]

already quadrupled

[proper solstice]

3x dmg is 3x dmg

[neat siren]

get that tusk bro good luck

[faint wigeon]

the bonus shown are already multiplied

[hollow nest]

yikes

[proper solstice]

cloud 3 has 10ad right?

[neat siren]

yes

[proper solstice]

then thats my stopping point for now, all my dudes will be on that once I get ancient tusk

then ill spread them out for a bit getting all the artifacts base while making em loot better and faster

[glad isle]

spread them out

[bleak lotus]

i just unlocked world 5, do i have to put my characters in divinity jail now

[proper solstice]

no I want arti chance and my speed to be reasonable and not 15 hrs

[glad isle]

u mean just sailing right

[hollow nest]

This is how my sailing looks

[proper solstice]

yea ill spread them out as I get more

only got 3 boats rn

[glad isle]

boat so many boats

[hollow nest]

We do be exploring

Still not enough speed to reasonably unlock further islands

[glad isle]

better than nothing

[neat siren]

FINALLY

crazy how i got ancient ad tablet before this

[nocturne patrol]

2 week i try to get ancient form of this xd

[faint wigeon]

"reasonable speed" when on the screenshot you sent before I see a boat on a 12h trip

[bleak gazelle]

dude early sailing s u c k s

[faint wigeon]

mister acercow whats your max chest pile on your alt?

[nocturne patrol]

all char have invidual statue lvl ?

[faint wigeon]

statue is acc wide

god not individual statue pls

[bleak gazelle]

6

because i finally got one point from merit

[faint wigeon]

hmm alr

[deft charm]

This one dude just likes taking it slow

[bleak gazelle]

did you make it gold?

[nocturne patrol]

y

[faint wigeon]

gold

[bleak gazelle]

did you just make it gold?

[faint wigeon]

yeah before gold it is per char, once its golden its acc wide level (and take the highest statue level on all char)

[spark steppe]

I'm gaining one divinity per hour. Do I still get 1 divinity if I claim before 1 hour is up?

[nocturne patrol]

already gold

[faint wigeon]

[nocturne patrol]

i see it gold on all char

[bleak gazelle]

press upgrade

[nocturne patrol]

oh f

forgot that tab

[deft charm]

Dw, my stupid brain for example forgot that trapping exists

I started it after getting to w6

[faint wigeon]

[keen siren]

random q, how long is divinity hell aka when can i active play again? i just got w5 like 6 hours ago

[spark steppe]

Anyone knows the answer to my divinity question?

[nocturne patrol]

y u need to claim at 1h

[faint wigeon]

div jail is forever, or until goat god, 5th god, then its back to lab jail
but you can have one out when you get 2nd god (make your char remotely connected on lab but no lab exp gain)
3rd god is when you start to push back (x2 kill)

[nocturne patrol]

59 min = 0

[faint wigeon]

full hour yeah

until you get some other bonus that increase div gain then even 2m claim can give lots of point, but early on its full hour

[fast sage]

ive been in div jail for like over a week, close to 2 on at least minimum 8/10 characters. About to get 4th tomorrow... but then again, ive probably been inefficient with it

[spark steppe]

even tho it says 1 divinity on claim window right?

[nocturne patrol]

oh, if it say u get 1, u get 1

[spark steppe]

i claim like A minute or two early

claimed*

[bleak gazelle]

Sounds about right. I just went through W5 on alt account in ~11 days, took 2 days off to hop into hole and am currently sitting on a 100% roll for 4th god

[keen siren]

😭 my acc cooked, time to get a job ig

[faint wigeon]

maybe div is less strict for the claim then idk

[bleak gazelle]

If you have the ES talent for bonus XP, you will probably still gain the 1 exp at slightly before the hour. You will lose the Div point, however

[fast sage]

that or maybe it tracks total time in background

[bleak gazelle]

for instance, that was with maxed ES div xp talent

[glad isle]

sooooooo

[spark steppe]

in the window where you click claim, it said 1 div, 1 exp. I might have said one for Exp and 0 for definitely but I'm almost certain

[hollow nest]

I had nothing else to unlock so that was the only option besides farming loot (?)

[glad isle]

1 pts 🤏

[bleak gazelle]

and that was with some points into polytheism (i guess the point bonus is account-wide)

[spark steppe]

ok thank you

[bleak gazelle]

tl;dr - claim on the hour to be safest, for now

[glad isle]

real

[fast sage]

i've lost so much potential div points lmao, need to improve my patience

[glad isle]

just get better xp

u get more div points with better stance

[nocturne patrol]

u can gamba xp if u log every 15min for try to get a double proc

gamba is the way

[glad isle]

not worth

[fast sage]

im sacrificing xp for div points to unlock goat atm -> using the one that gives like 4x div per hour atm

[glad isle]

i gamble only 1+ day

u know when ur luck is maxed out

[bleak gazelle]

i still think it's worth to focus points to push omniphau. the other account-wide bonuses it gives (especially early on) should help all the other timesinks much more palatable

[glad isle]

u keep gambling

[nocturne patrol]

just get rng and 8 div in 1 month uwu

[glad isle]

lol

[glad isle]

what flutter biz gives

[bleak gazelle]

i wonder if i can pull up my old rates on main account

[faint wigeon]

surely you can stop lab/div jail and go on hole jail now
next 2 gods give practically nothing beside their blessing that you won't be leveling for a while bc atom

[nocturne patrol]

i dont have rng for gaming, but y for div

[glad isle]

so u say i get flutterbis and hole grind ?

[faint wigeon]

ehh even flutter is meh tbh

[nocturne patrol]

soon

[glad isle]

lemme just get lab up then

[nocturne patrol]

all char are 40 div but not 75 lab

[faint wigeon]

you barely use it compared to the other 7 gods before it

[glad isle]

well i unlock it eventually

but is it worth to farm for that now ?

[faint wigeon]

lab 75 is just for all lab chip slot, but even then you won't fill all of them right away because as you'll barely have any chip (unless you're a big ahh whale)

[glad isle]

or i just move on to other stuff

[faint wigeon]

surely you can skip it for now

[glad isle]

les gooooo

[nocturne patrol]

one question, do i wait to hit multi for this ?

[hollow nest]

Long lines are fun

[glad isle]

fun u say

[bleak gazelle]

man, it took me 5 weeks to get frost relic arti on main account still can't find any god posts for w/e reason though

[nocturne patrol]

rng is the way

[faint wigeon]

get more dmg
100k kph aint gonna cut it

[nocturne patrol]

oh i was having dr card xd

[hollow nest]

btw is 100K kph reasonable to push some W6?

[bleak gazelle]

well i had at laest harriep by 6 weeks

[spare rune]

Probably but maybe get morere

[hollow nest]

I wanna push to unlock the leek spirits lock to get the new territory

[faint wigeon]

once you get to w6, you throw all your char there to level up to 300+, then proceed to forget w6 for a few month to come back with Ts dmg

[hollow nest]

Did the first part, everybody is 420+

[bleak gazelle]

here are portal reqs, woodlins require 2 people to pass it

[spare rune]

Should probably do that except for my lvl 1 character

[nocturne patrol]

real

put him in lab

[bleak gazelle]

lul, wonder if i can beet my record of 7 weeks
what a time to play
took 2 days to get full (minus 2) rerolled silver pops

[nocturne patrol]

or div if u dont have goat

i lose 20 fragment for reroll a 3%, so fun

[faint wigeon]

whats the last map you got to?

[spare rune]

How do you obol farm

[bleak gazelle]

How to gain DR if you're just starting

-# aka cards and obols are in shambles and you have single digit DR

• Start with ES, grab c.Amarok pendant, and work on Card DR cards (gigafrog, snelbie, stache) probably to 4* (now passive through Vault!)
• Then farm DR and Crystal Spawn cards (ES), W1-3 can be 4*, W4-5 can be 2-3 star for now (alternatively, farm Crystal cards after Pops)
• Back to Gigafrogs to farm Pop Obols (ES), a full set of bronze for family and personal, then reroll all of them to 3%, then upgrade to silver (place rerolled obol in left side of combine area, add a base 2% on the right)

Remember - multikill doesn't matter, but damage is important to push ES portal numbers

• Next, if you have Choco Chip, you can start working on Dice Obols (full silvers, then reroll and slowly upgrade for every slot), generally from W2 Sandy Pots on DK, you also get Silver Pens to fill out your PO Box for DR/Crystal Chance

• Note: if you don't have Choco yet, work on your Shrine, c.Chiz card, and star talent

• Make sure you're keeping up with Owl for a bit more DR, yellow bubble, and max out Vault

Work towards Kruk and GS gear
Cavern, Equinox, and Endless Summoning all provide more stacking sources of DR, too
If you're beyond all this, Plunders are a great way to boost DR and Golden Cakes for Beanstalk + personal
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l3RFWq1Zypqkfby1YncOkuY_K4aSist14KUK5dJQ3as/edit?gid=1005058354#gid=1005058354

[hollow nest]

I had 1 character at leeks the rest trolls bur the kill per hour dropped significantly

Will probably take a week for them to reach and unlock leeks

[faint wigeon]

if you have mutikill push all char to leek

[hollow nest]

not sure is worth it

[faint wigeon]

at that point only push if you have mk

[hollow nest]

No T damage yet, wondering what big buffs I'm missing

[spare rune]

Skill (issue)

[bleak gazelle]

holy shit, it took me two months to unlock omni. old div guide sucked

[spare rune]

I got lucky with that guy

Still don't have atoms

[glad isle]

why not

didn't unlock the building
or lowerr prints

[nocturne patrol]

for 10 lvl upgrade kek

[spare rune]

Both

[glad isle]

meh

[glad isle]

how far in achievement

[spare rune]

Rubadubdub

[glad isle]

where ur gem

[nocturne patrol]

gem ?

[faint wigeon]

well surely for leek its a bit above 1T, but mobs before it are proly 500b around that

[glad isle]

ur name

[nocturne patrol]

oh xd

[glad isle]

i just got this lmao

5 levels 😦

[nocturne patrol]

gz

[alpine rune]

Help😭

[bleak gazelle]

get more dr

I have ___ kills on Suggmas. Why haven't I gotten the recipe yet?
Understand that DN count includes MK, KPK, and other multis which aren't accounted for when you go for loot. Loot is based on base kills so you have to factor all those out. Generally, a good comparison is to look at the number of Royal Urn drops you have. On average, most get it around 1K urns collected (or roughly 1B DN kills if you insist on using this count as a measure).

[faint wigeon]

no eclipse skull = not enough kill already

[alpine rune]

I can't my multi kill is 900k and my Dr is 10x I did candies and it didn't work I've been doing this for 3 weeks now

[alpine rune]

Stop I just got eclipse last week I'm trying to grind w1 now

[bleak gazelle]

multikill doesn't matter for non-base drops (like recipes or royal suggma urns)

honestly, i'd work on other things and just come back later

there are a lot of DR sources out there now (and damage for your vman)

[red orbit]

are there any particular reasons on why u upgrade defence?

[alpine rune]

Alright I'll work on those than

[alpine rune]

To not die

[bleak gazelle]

there's one starsign in w6 and also dog den in hole

also future proofing based on lava's comments in earlier #💖future-content-blog

[faint wigeon]

big numba

[quartz tide]

Do I need the laboratory blind upgrade to get omega nanochip in a few days or can I get it if I don't buy the Galvanic nanochip?

[faint wigeon]

yes

need lab bling to get omega chip

[quartz tide]

so cringe that I gotta wait a year then

Thanks foryour help Dadoums

[bleak gazelle]

whlie i love getting another nanochip, i need more motherboards

[faint wigeon]

I'm ready for that

[faint wigeon]

go hibernate for half a year then it'll be there

[raven wren]

Is there any secrets to doing the speed run thing for vman?

[faint wigeon]

void radius give big multikill

[quartz tide]

Any tips for round 125 of Pet arenas?

Just not too sure how to do it vs. normal battles. Do I full auto? I tried doing monolith manually but I find that my refiller isn't refilling since the mobs die before my autos go in. Currently using the "safe" build on the guide sheet

[faint wigeon]

killing nightmare boss = 3 portal cound

[nocturne patrol]

i need to remind keeping 2 gift guildbox for pyramite

[raven wren]

Good to know, didn't realize the difficulty level effected that

[faint wigeon]

also monster print

[hollow nest]

for real

[faint wigeon]

monolith makes it incredibly slow, at your own risk, just auto it and pray, if you lose either get pets with higher battle power or more luck

[quartz tide]

It is so cringe. I have been holding off on crystal grinds for choco and this omega chip

Quarterly rotation would be nice.

[hollow nest]

I just got sovereign arti, do you think I make it? lol

Dadoums help mee

[faint wigeon]

make what? get sov? yeah get them with luck

[hollow nest]

Help me get the lab bling jewel thing in time to get the omega chip

[faint wigeon]

oh yeah no forget about it
you proly won't be able to get it in time

[hollow nest]

A week to get my sneaking from 2Q to 3QQ

[proper solstice]

atleast go for the ones that make getting more sovereign easier/sailing strongerfirst would help but if ur unsure dont focus it

[raven wren]

While doing the speed run, are you allowed to teleport?

[bleak gazelle]

love when you get a +1 upgrade slot on craft and then fail 4 stones....

[raven wren]

Do multiple difficulties of the same boss count as "unique"?

[unreal vortex]

Do the highest only

[alpine rune]

If I afk in slimes will it kill glunko?

[nocturne patrol]

why u want to kill glunko when afk ?

[bleak gazelle]

kind of, each difficulty gives +1 count, but doing higher will give the lower ones, too

[raven wren]

Do portals I already opened in previous runs stay open or is the whole thing reset every time? (I've only done it once)

[unreal vortex]

Reset

[alpine rune]

Nah I want to farm slimes for death nor but ion wanna kill glunko😞

[raven wren]

Okay so staring in w1 would make the most sense

[faint wigeon]

!vman

[obtuse orbit]

Losing deathnote kills after running your Void Trial is not a bug.
You'll have maps unlocked afterwards based on the furthest any of your characters have made it. Grats, progression is now easier, but go catch up on deathnote with other classes.
W6 note: ||This can also assist with passing the W6 locks if another character has cleared the map already, giving you a free pass.||

[unreal vortex]

Lemme get a vid 🙂

https://youtu.be/MwFgbP9j56U?si=y71ZvxCQes2vrAKu

[unreal vortex]

Yes

See the vid, it will help. Pay attention to the "plan your route" section

[zinc torrent]

https://youtu.be/OJrFeUSmqHA?feature=shared

[proper solstice]

Im curious can you reduce sailing min travel time?

[zinc torrent]

SB Family Bonus

[faint wigeon]

w4 shiny pet

[hollow nest]

it opens 3 portals

[proper solstice]

thats it?

[faint wigeon]

.

[zinc torrent]

And Shiny Dog (Breeding)

[faint wigeon]

min sailing travel time

[nocturne patrol]

oh like under 2h

[proper solstice]

% sailing speed is different from min sailing time

[near lichen]

Nightmare opens the three so they should just do nightmare

[proper solstice]

I see thats it huh

[quartz tide]

Roughly what sneaking level are you? Just curious as a benchmark for sovereign arti

[marsh plinth]

best post office box for bb?

[near lichen]

Best for skilling is fish/cook

[nocturne patrol]

So broken to get a free ribbon everyday

[proper solstice]

I maxed fishing first next ill go cooking tbh skilling is harder to get up for these 2 than other skills or damage/acc

[marsh plinth]

kk

[proper solstice]

basically skills over damage is probably best

[near lichen]

Ribbons aren't meant to be gem shop only

[proper solstice]

3 more meals to reach lvl 11 till I cant do no moe for a while and just level what I want/get them for breeding upgrades.

[near lichen]

And I think you need ~500,000 ribbons to max one

[proper solstice]

prob near 512k then

[near lichen]

Based on my progression you can probably get vman soon and suddenly upgrade them to like level 20 easy peasy

524,288

[proper solstice]

I could easily do 15-20 on alot of the earliest ones already

but yea workin on vman unlock

my last achieve to go for in autoreview for late w4

[near lichen]

Really? 20 takes like a billion

[proper solstice]

OH

[marsh plinth]

does afk gains rate affect deathnoe

[proper solstice]

then prob just 15 ish for now

[proper solstice]

it affects kills afk doesnt it

[glad isle]

veiny

[proper solstice]

YEAP

11k/hr so like

[near lichen]

Doing a round of 24 hour cooks with blood marrow cot me ranging from 25 to 20

[proper solstice]

2 days ish

[glad isle]

i should get this green stack 😭

[near lichen]

I thought gains rate was just drops

[glad isle]

forgot about it smh

[proper solstice]

?, maybe lemme double check

[glad isle]

how's ur omar quests

did u do em

[proper solstice]

Un touched

[near lichen]

Me: I won't be able to get large fish for 40 days
Also me: ignores omar

[glad isle]

why not

oh candy problems

[proper solstice]

Im not even worried about getting large fish atm

tho medium fish I need to get some sampled sometime soon

[glad isle]

well i should be worried

and thats not good

[near lichen]

I didn't get seasalt island as fourth, and my next fish rod/carry bag will probably take large fish

[proper solstice]

what is the main benefit of omar besides the items?

[near lichen]

Speeds up bottles

[proper solstice]

ah I aint worried bout that I got 3 islands

next island is gonna be saved up for will be the large fish one

I take this game slow enough that Ill just unlock em about the same time or probably be able to fish the large fish before I get the fishing eff

[near lichen]

I should take all my chars off div and put them onto nothing

[proper solstice]

div jail -> nothing/hole jail

why is there so many afk jails

[near lichen]

When I can't answer that the way I want to in english
-a monolingual english speaker

[proper solstice]

for nothing jail u can candy it later tho atleast

[trim wren]

I just unlocked World 5 today, what should I do first?

[oblique jasper]

Div

[near lichen]

Div to bear god

[oblique jasper]

Should be a guide in the pins

[hollow nest]

put some boats to move

[trim wren]

That's the white thing to the left right?

[trim wren]

ty

[proper solstice]

getting all chars anvil to t1 in autoreview takes quite a bit of slime that I somehow have 0 of

[marsh plinth]

how to I free my second ninja twin

[proper solstice]

its like 5mins worth of slime per char at most so not even that hard

this just got on my nerves for how easy it is

[near lichen]

On the floor with the first twin you can loot kunai, same as nunchaku but for untying

[stuck river]

chat i did it

[proper solstice]

got char 1 done on this now, now to do this on 2-8

I wonder what itll call it after this(its "late w4" rn, which I sorta agree w/ this isnt cheap till u got ok deathnote)

[proper solstice]

um how tf did I gain 15mil on this?

free damage from something(probably cooking I did upgrade something in cooking w/o reading what it did bc more meal lvl = good)

[orchid moss]

it takes like 20 min to farm the mats on es tho

[proper solstice]

meh Id rather not lag tf out rn

[orchid moss]

lol

[proper solstice]

I think its a price thats pretty worth it to pay to not break my pc or much more likely the game runtime instance

[orchid moss]

u got ram?

[proper solstice]

16gb

[orchid moss]

i meant the pet LOL mb

[proper solstice]

NOPE

[orchid moss]

o unlucky

[proper solstice]

I got the storage space to hold the items I need

its just the individual items on the ground

[near lichen]

I don't got enough ram

[proper solstice]

I hold plenty per slot

[near lichen]

I should download some more

[proper solstice]

pepega yknow this is on a div slave right?

[near lichen]

I remember when I thought 2k stacks were big

[proper solstice]

its just enough for what im doing rn so im fine

[orchid moss]

div slaves have rights too

[near lichen]

I have nine div slaves with w5 mining bags

[proper solstice]

no they bow down to their king and take what scraps they can get(except for skills that all chars benefit from doing)

[raven wren]

Anyone willing to try to explain to me the math behind Blood Marrow? I can't manage to figure it out, I'm trying to figure out the break points for it to try to squeeze a bit more speed out of my cooking easily

[hollow nest]

I will farm now to get better stacks on my characters but getting 1k hamsters seems like a pain

[near lichen]

% from talent ^ total meal level

[proper solstice]

all I know is more level = more good sorry

[orchid moss]

it is active es time

[proper solstice]

This lad is using w2 weapon and skill gear rn lmao its gonna be fun entering w5 proper w/ him later(yes I havnt pushed w5 mobs at all getting my other stuff up rn I got quite a bit to do b4 its time for that)

[near lichen]

So if you have 1% on the talent and ten meals at level ten it's 1.01^100 or ~2.7x

[raven wren]

.8% * 324 lvl (from the talent itself) = 2.592... which is no where near the 13% its giving so I'm doing the math wrong somewhere

[near lichen]

Not times

To the power

[raven wren]

😮

[glad isle]

negligence

[near lichen]

13x for you

[glad isle]

it hurts

[proper solstice]

lmao(ignore that junk data that ended up in this message)

[glad isle]

no u

[orchid moss]

oh i havent checked my blood marrow in a bit

maybe i should max book it

[near lichen]

If every meal was maxed at that talent level it'd give you 7E25x instead

[glad isle]

don't tell me math exists

[proper solstice]

it does and its powerful

[near lichen]

I'm allergic to math
-A professional mather

[glad isle]

why use math when u can use brain

[proper solstice]

Only things my other chars get is stuff that helps overall stuff like trapping and TD or their specific skill when I need to resample

[near lichen]

I don't do math, I tell a rock to do it for me

[glad isle]

hand me downs

[proper solstice]

no not for those just hand me downs for stuff like combat which they only touch in a blue moon and w/ 20m minimum for max dmg on all they easily lvl up

[glad isle]

no

craft em urself

[hollow nest]

Any paid ways to improve my sneaking? I just need to x20 it.

Besides buying 6h sneaking items which are worthless

[proper solstice]

explain? bc atm combat gear is just more of a hassle than a necessity for me

my favorite gear type rn

[near lichen]

I just use my skilling gear on all chars, it's not important

[glad isle]

when upgrade

[glad isle]

what world ur in

[near lichen]

Barely w6

[proper solstice]

wdym? its just the best fishing gear I can get for that slot

Id rather up my base stats or weapon

[glad isle]

i see upgrade slots

[proper solstice]

Those are pointless when I can just upgrade my base stats more

[glad isle]

nuh

[near lichen]

I could spend a month farming w4 armor for one char, or get a month of alch/stamp progress

[orchid moss]

w6 stones are kinda goated

[glad isle]

upgrade em

[orchid moss]

cant lie

[proper solstice]

the weapon ones are good but I have 1000x survibility

[glad isle]

use fmj

upgrade it

[orchid moss]

i mean u cant really farm salts

[near lichen]

Tbf empty upgrade slots is kinda silly

[glad isle]

more

[orchid moss]

u kinda just wait lol

[proper solstice]

ser3ser

[glad isle]

when level 50

[proper solstice]

do you not get it? I can survive all of w5 w/o armor w/ some dps

So I really dont feel the need

[glad isle]

well I'm just saying

[proper solstice]

I got it to 30 for achievement

[glad isle]

those 3 upgrades feel sad

[proper solstice]

ill upgrade it on an on need basis

[near lichen]

Gear is a like 5-10% upgrade from nothing to best

[proper solstice]

Id rather focus my energy into increasing something that helps production

[orchid moss]

not true with later gear

[glad isle]

why production

[near lichen]

Which is a big individual upgrade but not important

[proper solstice]

yea I know eventually I need to upgrade my gear

[orchid moss]

the misc stats in w5 w6 gear are so goated

[glad isle]

when w7 stones

[proper solstice]

but its a drop in the bucket Id need to do 10 times for minor gains on each char rn when I can do one upgrade once and get it for all chars for the same if not more gain

[glad isle]

+40 stats

• misc bonuses

[orchid moss]

10% success rate

[near lichen]

I am estimating higher base stats making later gear similar at similar progression levels to earlier gear but I don't have it so idk

[orchid moss]

later gear has stuff like mob respawn, dr, afk gains so it's a lot more impactful

[glad isle]

just craft 1 set

u switch them when skilling

[near lichen]

Oh I was thinking of just all stat gear

[glad isle]

or print

[glad isle]

magma goes brrr

[orchid moss]

i feel like by the time you can make magma you can probably make kruk

lowkey

[near lichen]

I have like 100 nullo salts sooooo

[glad isle]

the tooth are a pain

[proper solstice]

Still not feeling like its worth the resources that could give me like 2x the bonuses an armor set would(I do need to upgrade my weapon to ice tier tho, ill do that soon)

[orchid moss]

im still working on saving 90k nullo salts

[glad isle]

otherwise all good

[orchid moss]

for troll gear on everyone

[glad isle]

troll gear huh 💀

[orchid moss]

you need troll gear to make magma

[glad isle]

i didn't even craft 1 maximum set

[glad isle]

i know

[near lichen]

I'm working on green salt weapons, specialized skills, traps, and skulls

[glad isle]

just get everything up

[near lichen]

Then why the skull?

[orchid moss]

i need to fix my skulls but im lazy

[proper solstice]

ser im curious what your highest damage and skills was when u first entered w5 for u to act like gear is worth the insane time investment for me yet

[glad isle]

more worship charge

[near lichen]

???

[glad isle]

i don't remember

[orchid moss]

wait why is gear a high time investment tho

[near lichen]

You had this skull for worship charge?

[glad isle]

i got like 5x dmg in last week

[orchid moss]

void gear is literally like free on everyone if you have prints

[glad isle]

no thats armour pieces

[hollow nest]

Yeah, void gear is free

[hollow nest]

Mid W4

[glad isle]

chat i should leave

[orchid moss]

you can make 3 other pieces which dont require salts

[proper solstice]

um you sure bout that, I could use these on other things atm

[glad isle]

im noobie

[hollow nest]

Seems like someone ignored refinery for a long time

[proper solstice]

I need to get those flies

[glad isle]

don't get started

[proper solstice]

I havnt red salts are just slow to rank up(constantly checking to rank up)

[hollow nest]

what are you using the blue salts for anyways?

[glad isle]

i should correct mine smh

[proper solstice]

mkt

max lvl books and some construction buildings

500 is also quite a lot still for that for me and its gonna stay that way for a bit till I get even more refinery speed

3x aint cutting it

[orchid moss]

did u lvl up the stamp

[hollow nest]

I remember being able to build as much void as I wanted when I was early W4

[proper solstice]

I did but not too far yet

[near lichen]

It's easy to make mistakes in the refinery without ignoring it, and progression is so fast you don't have time to rank it up enough to do your crafts

[orchid moss]

tbf most people in early w4 are in amarok gear nowadays

i mean ace literally just beat kruk in copper gear on his alt

[proper solstice]

I could beat kruk w/o gear at this point

[hollow nest]

Yeah because everyone always spams to get Amarok and ignore all other gear lol

[glad isle]

we got vault now lmao

it changed a lot of early game

[near lichen]

Saying people ignored mechanics just because they're not done perfectly is pretty unfriendly

[hollow nest]

I apologize

[orchid moss]

idk i feel like 500 blue salt shouldnt be that bad when ur in w5 already but maybe the world speedrun is too fast

[hollow nest]

I'm salt locked trying to craft troll gear anyways so i know the feeling

[proper solstice]

tbh in general the gear system annoys me

[proper solstice]

I spent quite a while in w4 compared to most

[orchid moss]

90k for 10 sets 😭

[proper solstice]

I just hate salt deficits w/ a passion

[orchid moss]

yea thats why im a little confused

[glad isle]

i miss ur will

[near lichen]

That blue salt could be 1250 void salt instead between all characters

[hollow nest]

Yeah I build 3 and then gotta wait

[proper solstice]

I have more than 1k blue its just

I have other things that are better than a helmet for a SINGLE character

[raven wren]

After looking the thing up on the wiki I figured out where my math mistake was

[proper solstice]

mkt gives more samples, more dmg and skilling w/ book max lvls, and construction existing

[glad isle]

wait till u get egoterarisn traps ( can't spell )

10k nullo per traps

[near lichen]

Egalitarian

[orchid moss]

its okay surely my nullo will be like rank 5 by then

[proper solstice]

yall be tryna speedrun burnout

[hollow nest]

mkt isn't even that worth it

[glad isle]

i suppose

[orchid moss]

ill just be happily stuck on royal for a while

[near lichen]

You can't burn out if you're already burnt out

[hollow nest]

I'd you are running out of salt

[proper solstice]

I have plenty of green, red, and orange, and blue its just 500 is still a big chunk

[orchid moss]

oo thanks for reminding me to do some bargain tags

[near lichen]

I've had green running for rank ups since w4 and I only have enough salt for lustre tier traps and specialized tools at the start of w6

[orchid moss]

probably need more speed ngl

[bleak gazelle]

considering you can push to w5 in like 2 weeks now, even without really knowing what you're doing. you just don't have enough physical time to get the salts

[near lichen]

I guess I could level up salt lick some?

[proper solstice]

oh cool I can rank up orange!

[orchid moss]

yea true but i was thinking he spent more time on horizontal progression than others so maybe his refinery was a bit more leveled up

[near lichen]

But I am pumping all my salt into green salts and not having terrible towers

[proper solstice]

its still only at t2

[orchid moss]

9 to infinity LMAO

[proper solstice]

bottle neck is red

[stray snow]

Lmao

[proper solstice]

the goal for red is just always enabled after all

same w/ green

[stray snow]

Yeah even tho my salts are good im just leveling red up a huge amount

What r u using?

[proper solstice]

this is ieautoreview

[stray snow]

Ah right

[glad isle]

if u see mine u laugh

[proper solstice]

refinery needs updating on this page tho for tiering its helpful for excesss/deficit

[stray snow]

Yeah I just have a graph I use that shows what everything should be at to run

[orchid moss]

just follow the golden rule

[proper solstice]

The graph is ok but its annoying to track that image down

and downloading it id just lose the png keeping track of 1 txt file is enough

[stray snow]

I have it saved lol

[orchid moss]

i swear refinery is not that deep

[proper solstice]

I just keep it not a deficit

[stray snow]

(Mine was just fucked and barely workin)

[orchid moss]

yea

[orchid moss]

bro did not read the w3 pins

[proper solstice]

they need to change this

this is not True max its like late w4 in prog at best

[stray snow]

Nope I don’t think I joined till I was somewhat in w4-5

[orchid moss]

icic

[stray snow]

Yuh

[proper solstice]

ok I sleep

tmrow ill have all my chars w/ smithing actually decent points wise

[neat hinge]

rip my best run yet 😦

damn that's crazy tho

[hardy cradle]

I have a question...
Around how much damage does a Vman need to beat Nightmare Kruk without losing too much sanity due to the mob/heal spam?

[near lichen]

If it's for speedrun you probably want to one hit it as a guess

[hollow nest]

it's probably for the task

[twin idol]

How much damage do you have?

[faint wigeon]

for sanity? at least in the hundred of billions

[eternal geyser]

i just got lucky lad on actively playing

[faint wigeon]

nice, the start and downfall of you getting twenty thousand lucky lad

[orchid trail]

it was kinda liberating to get luckier lad and to be able to filter it out

my vman couldn't do anything because it was holding on to all of them

[faint wigeon]

one day I'll get the space for it

[wintry grove]

is no more praying a useful superbit in gaming?

[faint wigeon]

not worth making use of it

[wintry grove]

Alright, so it's more just to unlock further upgrades?

[faint wigeon]

ye

[wintry grove]

Alright, I might try to wait for green bits

since the further upgrades will probably require it anyway

[near lichen]

Does it have a niche use when you're close to being able to remove royal sampler or still bad then?

[spark stone]

I guess still bad since you wouldn't be able to equip skilled dimwit and zerg rushogen when sampling

[near lichen]

Jokes on you I can't equip rushogen anyways

[near lichen]

I oopsed, I was thinking you could equip them for higher eff for sample then unequip for sample size

But that's not quite how the game works

[faint wigeon]

when sampling yeah you equip zerg rush and skilled dimwit, royal is always on anyway

[near lichen]

That was in the context of pray no more

So it wouldn't work

[faint wigeon]

ah

just use prayer and forget that thing exist

[near lichen]

And I leave dimwit on always, no downside I think when not skilling

I was trying to brainstorm a niche use where it helped

[olive river]

My Bubo is consistently crashing my game at tremor worms, have I finally beat Idleon?

[glad isle]

chat is vialduct of god's good early on

or should i use it

[faint wigeon]

is bad

[glad isle]

alright thx

[neat siren]

dude i went into nkruk not looking at my cc cooldown and now i have cc active in fucking nkruk cus i cannot be assed to manual for 15 minutes

well at least the moles keep spawning

[near lichen]

It is good if you cap liquid while ccing

[still apex]

Just spend it on grind time, or leveling cauldrons

[neat siren]

do the moles in kruk not count for cc?????????/

well TIL the hard way i guess

[near lichen]

Do you get the progress as you cook and not at the end?

[neat siren]

yes

[still apex]

I never thought of doing that. Good to know i guess

[neat siren]

that is how cc works and none of my liquids are going up at all

gonna take a screenshot at the end if it will show how much progress i made

[near lichen]

Whoops the progress pop up made me think it was an once

[neat siren]

+0 seconds of alchemy progress would be funny

well 5% there i guess

[potent lily]

Is it normal kruk?

[neat siren]

yep it said +0 seconds of alc progress

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/akiyama-yakuza-sleep-adachi-true-windows-movie-maker-gif-16025681944353976597

[neat siren]

nightmare

[still apex]

Nightmare

[neat siren]

akiyama my goat

[potent lily]

Hope you get the cape

[neat siren]

oh hey i can see his health while gaming

only have 12x dr i don't think i'm getting it

i cannot imagine doing this shit on vman

[potent lily]

Vman is my 6th player and it was painful hed no dmg on him

[neat siren]

ouch

also question how good is no more praying

[glad isle]

bad

use prayers

[junior arrow]

Right now you get:
100% of the prayers you want and 0% of the prayers you dont
Using the no more gaming you get:
20% of the prayers you want and dont want

Tldr lose 80% of the good to gain 20% of the bad

[neat siren]

does it ever get good? from your explanation and what i can understand from it it just makes the good prayers subpar while the bad prayers slightly better

so its only purpose is to unlock the 2 superbits next to it i guess

[junior arrow]

Oh i forgot 1 more thing, no more praying doesnt activate giants either so you lose those as well

And no it never gets better

[merry pendant]

hello. i am trying to get the resipe drop from slugmas. i have over 500 000 000 kills on them now and yet i dont have it. anyone know if im doing something wrong

[novel mural]

low dr? not farming it on ES?

[junior arrow]

Its called rng. Took me 2.4b kills roughly, although recipes dont care for Multikill so the real kills was much lower

[neat siren]

what's your dr

and yeah it doesn't get affected by multikill so you really just need to get lucky

[neat siren]

would dk be better cus orb?

[merry pendant]

im afk farming on 3 charecters who all have drop rate over 8

[neat siren]

ok that's a bit too low

[merry pendant]

fair but still

[neat siren]

what are your obols looking like and your cards

[novel mural]

yeah thats low

[junior arrow]

ES is better but needs the damage to make it work

[neat siren]

i assume es is better for the quantity of the enemies

[merry pendant]

im not running drop rate cards or drop rate obols

[neat siren]

well that's the issue lol

[novel mural]

why not

[junior arrow]

The drop rate for this works a lot better on ES. I forget the simple explanation for it, but ES wins out

[neat siren]

at the very least have your family tab have dr obols and equip dr cards on your characters

[merry pendant]

idk. didnt think it mattered that much

[neat siren]

is this the case for most (if not all) recipes?

[novel mural]

if it didnt matter, you'd not have asked this question in the first place

[junior arrow]

Long story short
Drop is from crystals use DK
Drop is not from crystals use ES

[neat siren]

without my dr obols my dr goes from 12.5x to 11x

even rare drops use es?

[novel mural]

no

[merry pendant]

and didnt think id be this hard to get the resipe sence i have over 1mil kills and hour

[novel mural]

card main page: ES
rare bags: DK

[neat siren]

ah ok that sounds about right

[neat siren]

multikill doesn't affect the recipe drop rate

[junior arrow]

No its simple, crystal is dk non crystal is es

[neat siren]

so it's more like your actual base kph

[junior arrow]

You are using week 1 logic we had, its proven to be this way for a long time

[merry pendant]

realy?

[neat siren]

yes it does not

[merry pendant]

wth

[neat siren]

multikill only affects the main mob drop

[merry pendant]

thats so weird

i guess i need to aticve farm on es

[neat siren]

lava code

yep, and get more drop rate

farm those pop obols

[novel mural]

I'm fairly sure that has nothing to do with the code, just the way it was implemented

[neat siren]

and if you're getting suggma recipe i'm sure you're at the point where you have choco chip and can crystal farm?

at least i'd hope so

[junior arrow]

Not always, its easy to rush to w5 and not see the chip in the shop for months

[novel mural]

500 hampters are not a huge deal anyway

[junior arrow]

And if they are f2p they wont buy it from gemshop either

[neat siren]

i'd say rushing to w5 and trying to farm suggma recipes are a bit fairly different, there's a time gap in between for sure but yeah i suppose they may not have choco

[merry pendant]

i have choco chip

but i havent been crytal farming that much

[neat siren]

ok good, then you can crystal farm with dk at sandy pots for dice obols

but start with es at gigafrogs for pop obols first

[merry pendant]

dont gigafrogs also give good cards for crystal farming too?

[neat siren]

not directly but they are the ones who give card drop rate cards

[merry pendant]

cool

but my crystal chance cards arnt that impressive rn

[neat siren]

well you can work on that after pop obols

[merry pendant]

my poop is 3 star and my geeniy is 2 star

[neat siren]

that's fine but you'll want to get them to 4* with es before you start crystal farming

oh and even if you have choco you should at least have a crystal spawn chance of 1/100 or better, you can check using IT

75% left to go

[merry pendant]

oh i one shot him

[potent lily]

F2p forever

[neat siren]

how are you at the point where you can oneshot nkruk but not have more than 8x dr

[merry pendant]

dude dont even think about it

[neat siren]

how long have you been neglecting dr for lmao

[merry pendant]

all the time

[potent lily]

My max dr is 15 how do I get more dr?

[merry pendant]

wait what obols am i looking fo?

[neat siren]

How to gain DR if you're just starting

-# aka cards and obols are in shambles and you have single digit DR

• Start with ES, grab c.Amarok pendant, and work on Card DR cards (gigafrog, snelbie, stache) probably to 4* (now passive through Vault!)

• Then farm DR and Crystal Spawn cards(ES), W1-3 can be 4*, W4-5 can be 2-3 star for now

• Back to Gigafrogs to farm Pop Obols (ES), a full set of bronze for family and personal, then reroll all of them to 3%, then upgrade to silver (place rerolled obol in left side of combine area, add a base 2% on the right)

• Next, if you have Choco Chip, you can start working on Dice Obols (full silvers, then reroll and slowly upgrade for every slot), generally from W2 Sandy Pots on DK, you also get Silver Pens to fill out your PO Box for DR/Crystal Chance

• Note: if you don't have Choco yet, work on your Shrine, c.Chiz card, and star talent

• Make sure you're keeping up with Owl for a bit more DR, yellow bubble, and max out Vault

Work towards Kruk and GS gear
Cavern, Equinox, and Endless Summoning all provide more stacking sources of DR, too
If you're beyond all this, Plunders are a great way to boost DR and Golden Cakes for Beanstalk + personal
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l3RFWq1Zypqkfby1YncOkuY_K4aSist14KUK5dJQ3as/edit?gid=1005058354#gid=1005058354

these, bronze ones from gigafrogs

[merry pendant]

im just getting started

so that works for me

[neat siren]

then start with the card dr cards first

do you have them all at at least 4* already

not sure if you unlocked ruby cards from rift yet

[merry pendant]

these are the cards i use for dv crystal farming rn

[neat siren]

which emperor card is that, the dr one?

also i don't think you need all stat for crystal farming, put on more dr cards

crystal carrot, mimic, mr brightside, giftmas blobulyte (if you have it)

[merry pendant]

dmg one

[neat siren]

ok that's c.emperor, you don't need that either since once again multikill doesn't affect drop rates so just use full dr cards

something like this is more appropriate, and if you have the card doubles put the crystal cards in the top left/bottom right

[remote merlin]

guys is this like impssible to close now since my plants grow almost instantly now

[neat siren]

you don't need to turn it off anymore

you just have infinite gains with it on, why do you want to turn it off

[remote merlin]

ah ok thought it was some bug where my plants were growing faster then they were supposed to or smthing

[neat siren]

nah you've just reached instant gaming at this point

[remote merlin]

never rly turned it on and now they are instant when i did

[remote merlin]

ah ok tyy

[novel mural]

dont worry, once you get to 5s gaming or between 5s and instant, it's nearly impossible to fully clear your board(if you are being efficient)

[merry pendant]

thanks

[neat siren]

this was a horrendous idea

[remote merlin]

yeah they are instant now

[neat siren]

my damn 20m traps are overdue

[remote merlin]

should have put 10 hrs

[neat siren]

i didn't really think about it

[merry pendant]

have you done the equenox cloud that gives you dmg??

[remote merlin]

how long has the fight been going on for?

[merry pendant]

that one helps with destoying him

[neat siren]

i can't do most equinox clouds rn cus i'm timegated lmao

[neat siren]

holy shit it's been almost 40 minutes

i scrolled up to when i first mentioned nkruk

he isn't even halfway yet oh my god

[remote merlin]

oh damn

[neat siren]

i swear if i don't get the wings

[remote merlin]

gl lol

[potent lily]

I was on w2 dungeon 3rd boss for 2hours and 35 min so it's ok you can do it

[neat siren]

jesus christ

does w2 dungeon not have a time limit?

[potent lily]

Nope

[novel mural]

I dont think any of them do

[potent lily]

Both w1 and w3 got 10 min

[neat siren]

;9FHGOIWEHRBWE I WAS CHECKING MY OBOL PAGE AND I ACCIDENTALLY CLICKED ON BUY SPACE

[potent lily]

Rip

[novel mural]

gg

[neat siren]

welp that's 40 minutes of my life gone

not doing that again

[potent lily]

Not worth it

[neat siren]

yeah maybe when i have a lot more damage

ntroll costs 70 keys right?

[potent lily]

60 I think

[glad isle]

yea its 70

[glad isle]

on v man ?

[potent lily]

You mean lava flame2

[glad isle]

fr

[novel mural]

goddamn

[neat siren]

that's my bubo..

[novel mural]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

why didnt you attempt nm kruk on either es or dk

[glad isle]

why bubo

[neat siren]

i was doing wurms lol

was like surely nkruk couldn't be that bad

wait I should've equipped the damn single target attack

[glad isle]

lmao

big brain time

[cedar wadi]

guys, which one should i prioritize between the hole and divinity?

Ive reached purmep on div

[glad isle]

link him to someone

[peak verge]

You're pretty much done with divinity since the other gods are sorta whatever and God Ranks are for turbo end game.

[faint wigeon]

can do lab jail with goat to get to div 40 for tranqi then hole jail

[cedar wadi]

some says to get to purmep first tho :'

[gilded sedge]

Damn the goat himself coming out of hibernation to give advice, 1 in a billion occurrence

[cedar wadi]

but I'm hooked on those hole buffs

[faint wigeon]

goharut mentionned my goat?

[glad isle]

it happens

[cedar wadi]

should i put them all? or just a few of em?

[faint wigeon]

where?

[gilded sedge]

The only reason why you're not universally considered a goat is because you're french btw

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[novel mural]

Daddyoums is french?

[faint wigeon]

all or few where? in hole or lab jail?

[faint wigeon]

[cedar wadi]

lab

[gilded sedge]

Wowowowowow where are your qualifications to be able to call him daddy?

[novel mural]

is a white flag attached to your body in case you need to surrender?

[cedar wadi]

most of em are lv 28

[faint wigeon]

either all until all have are div 40 or only those who aren't div 40

[novel mural]

I have all my papers, officer

[faint wigeon]

[gilded sedge]

Show the proof

[novel mural]

uhm, uuuuuhm,

[gilded sedge]

No he's from fake france, not enough aura to even surrender

[novel mural]

oh fake france no need to surrender anytime soon

[gilded sedge]

Why does alchemy make you enthusiastic

[novel mural]

alchemy is the greatest

[cedar wadi]

ugh,

dont know what should i do in the mean time

[gilded sedge]

I asked why

[novel mural]

because you click on a bubble and account gets better

why wouldnt you wanna do that

[gilded sedge]

Does it tho?

[peak verge]

Didn't you just say you got purrmep?

[gilded sedge]

I've heard accounts get sadder the more alchemy

[novel mural]

those ppl dont enjoy idleon to the fullest

[faint wigeon]

crystal farm, card farm, obol farm, farm greenstack for mob mats with es, get all anvil points from mobs idk plenty

[gilded sedge]

You're thinking about people, I'm thinking about the accounts, why would you intentionally make your account sadder? What if he starts crying?

[faint wigeon]

utter lie, I've just clicked at least 20 times on a bubble and all it did was open the little tab for its description, it did not make my account better

[gilded sedge]

What if we kissed

[novel mural]

[faint wigeon]

uhhh sir you're a minor I prefer to stay out of jail

[gilded sedge]

Smart

[cedar wadi]

uhm.. sorry, my english skill are still on lv7

[gilded sedge]

That's 7 more then 0

[cedar wadi]

guess I should do some skilling first

[cedar wadi]

its too low for the curent world standart they say

[gilded sedge]

Current world max is 6, I think being on 7 is very good

[cedar wadi]

its the little lv7 that I mean

wait, my brain hurt .. gtg I guess

[manic pivot]

I'm so nervous around making new chars. Please can someone give me a confidence boost - So far I've got the usual starting 6 (one of each), then a 2nd DK and a Maestro. Is a 2nd ES for the 9th logical?

[errant pond]

2nd ES or 2nd SB right now is the meta/recommended, it is a bit difficult to say if this remains correct with the other masterclasses that will come out relatively soon

[peak verge]

.

[manic pivot]

Thanks for this. And thanks Pieter

[crimson ledge]

should i stop div a bit to unlock vman?

[novel mural]

it isnt mandatory to lock all your characters into div jail, you can always use 1 active character

you might as well finish w1-3 deathnote on bb

[kind peak]

What's the point of gaming? I haven't got anything yet and I've claimed my sprouts for a week

[peak verge]

Reach lvl 40

[sudden jackal]

hi all, I have a question regarding the sprinkler. It creates new plants, but is this a "growth cycle"? I.e. when using sprinkler on a full garden, will it give the option to evolve some plants just as growth cycles do or is it 100% wasted?

[peak verge]

Just new plants. No growth cycles.

[sudden jackal]

oki thx

[red orbit]

which one should i use chakra or mantra? im putting all of my 9 chars except for 1 pusher

[glad isle]

just use whatever is the most xp

until u get vitatic

[frosty pilot]

my bravery sword had 8M max damage minutes ago and now it has 3.5M wtf did i do ? i have 27K hours and lvl 316 sword thing in measure

[novel mural]

did you mess up your last sword throw by any chance

[frosty pilot]

i am not in the game itself

i'm loonking at the statue

[paper sail]

Go visit the measurer and check your total skill levels multiplier

[frosty pilot]

38K

x6.2 or something

i'm pretty sure it was 7 or 8 million before

[paper sail]

Go to w4 town, cloudsave to the player menu, come back in, click on the tome and see if it is the same total skill level

If it is the same, I think you were simply mistaken on what your damage was 🤷

[frosty pilot]

i dont think so cause i have done multiple run at wave 47 for the bravery multi bonus

[paper sail]

There is a bug where the Tome sometimes has no values, but you'd be seeing usually 0 total skill levels in that case

[frosty pilot]

need to finish justice run then i check

[calm bison]

Chat is there a "correct way" to use the sprinkler?

Like, for evolutions or anything?

[paper sail]

If you're still below 5second gaming, generally just clear the board > sprinkler until out > log. Not a lot to it

[calm bison]

yeah, so just sprinkle without claiming

[paper sail]

I would claim before log if it was types I didn't really want, such as the base or Voraci types. Otherwise yes

If you're too lazy to pick individual crops, just send it 😛

[novel mural]

lab jail is done finally going back to justice

[frosty pilot]

@paper sail so it was a bug , when i look at the statue it says max 3.5M damage but when i started the fight it is 8.8M from the start thx for the help anyway

[novel mural]

huh, that's still weird tho

[frosty pilot]

ye and it happenned right after i leveled the thing in measure with the notes

[manic pivot]

"Nothing sowwy"?!? lol this game has some hilarious moments

[peak verge]

Wait till you find out about the W7 bonuses

[cloud flame]

i mean, getting w7 bonuses early sounds nice

[peak verge]

Could've just as well been "+% fuck all" currently.

I know it's for the future but I would truly appreciate if the W7 bonuses weren't behind some of the worst stages of endless summoning imaginable.

[daring zephyr]

Which of the tools allows you to see your crystal mob rate?

[peak verge]

Both

[torpid inlet]

do the arctis print buff and harriep stack or do i just use harriep?

[fluid nest]

what's the point of wraith form? After a bunch of upgrades will it become stronger than his base form? Is there upgrades that boost his base form or something?

[manic pivot]

Guys I've got the gang in div jail but want to push 1 to Hole - best to hit hole with ES or DK?

[echo crag]

the grimoire as a few upgrade that are for the whole account and not just to boost the wraith form

[fluid nest]

ah

[undone field]

Grimoire is love, grimoire is life

[clear topaz]

I am going to let all chracaters farm dragon statues, so what would be the best setup? Drop-rate cards/set or luck, or both?

[undone field]

dr

[prime wasp]

I hope you're referring to later because of the change

LUK provides DR but not lots of it

[clear topaz]

what do you mean?

[prime wasp]

check #💖future-content-blog

#💖future-content-blog message

this message here

[calm bison]

lemme guess, this is es farmable.

[prime wasp]

yep

[calm bison]

anyways i got a full pop family

Just need to make a full personal pop set for my es and i can get to the next step: upgrade them into silver

[peak verge]

You still missing 2 🤓 ☝️

[clear topaz]

oh. Well. I might just forget about that right now

[calm bison]

what does this mean? (if you cant tell i dont have basic reading comprehension)

[bleak gazelle]

tl;dr - you want it whenever you get a new salt color to level 3 (so green would be your next one)

[prime wasp]

idk I heard it was good but idk what it is myself

[calm bison]

i still dont understand

[prime wasp]

the previous salt required won't go too big

[calm bison]

oh ok

[trail ore]

lucked out and got the cheesy bread recipe with i think enough time to get the microchip

[bleak gazelle]

Longer explanation is it keeps the middle number at 2x the right number instead of ballooning. The middle number is your salt cost, the riht is your Power per Cycle. In my picture, 976 is 2x 488. If I level it up, 986 is 2x 493

[peak verge]

It prevents you from fucking up your salts (too much)

[calm bison]

i don't know how that's gonna do anything to improve my salt gains :/

[cloud flame]

use less salts=have more salts to spare

[peak verge]

It will not improve the gains in the traditional sense but it will prevent them from getting considerably worse.

[prime wasp]

just get it

[undone field]

Best meditation style for lab farming bonus?

[prime wasp]

Depends how many gods you got

You just want as much xp as you can get in general

[calm bison]

chat is there a limit to the obols you get a day???

[glad isle]

i believe only limited to obol storage

[prime wasp]

no?

what would make you think that

[bleak gazelle]

probably bad drop rates

[calm bison]

well.... that's a little dissapointing...

I thought i would get double the bronze one

[glad isle]

atleast u got a silver obol

i don't even have bronze ones

[bleak gazelle]

* Back to Gigafrogs to farm Pop Obols (ES), a full set of bronze for family and personal, then reroll all of them to 3%, then upgrade to silver (place rerolled obol in left side of combine area, add a base 2% on the right), the upgraded silver will then be 4%

[woeful perch]

How does bubo's Essence Transferral skill interact with the bear divinity saying characters don't earn Lab XP?

[bleak gazelle]

as in bubo is in lab but other characters aren't? it should be fine (make sure XP Converter isn't set to lab)

[rancid garden]

They don't earn lab xp, but are treated like they're connected. If bubo isn't making xp he doesn't have any to transfer

[frozen oyster]

are obols only farmed from lower level mobs or am i getting giga unlucky and barely getting any while active pushing

[glad isle]

unlucky