lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[gaunt cave]

it increased my XP/hr

[neat siren]

that's like the worst prayer ever

[gaunt cave]

although much less kills

[naive swan]

that should only be activated for that royal worm quest

you can get extra class exp elsewhere

just not here

[neat siren]

harriep stacks with lab printer bonus, it just shows harriep

[naive swan]

shouldn't it be purple

[neat siren]

like rn i'm getting 6x prints

[gaunt cave]

AH FUCK i forgot unending energy is 10hour cap

ggs

[naive swan]

it only shows 3x for me

[neat siren]

oh that's the weekly ballot bonus

[naive swan]

so i'm still producing 6x items

[bleak gazelle]

if you've checked everything, visual bug

[naive swan]

ty

[stray snow]

welp ive done all my daily stuff time for elden ring. have fun chat

[neat siren]

just failed 3 times in a row

love this game

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, did that with 4 pairs of boots

[zinc peak]

quick q before I dive into guides: do you have to be afk for divinity? Like I shouldn't be online checking codex and things?

[bleak gazelle]

also got 3 boots with all rolls so...rng be rng

[bleak gazelle]

yes and early on don't check before the hour mark or you may lose xp or points

[zinc peak]

definitely killed two points then, but good to know 😂

[gaunt cave]

oh god im so cooked, i dont have any more sources of accuracy to hit 100% in w5z1 on my bubo

im only at 50%

nvm theres a prayer

[bleak gazelle]

if you're at 50% on first map you're kinda cooked

worse than my alt

Alch, stamps, Vault, cards, star signs, cards and card sets, levels/talents, W1 Owl, W2 Roo, orange potions, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, PO Box, and Hole are all sources of damage (and accuracy)

[atomic matrix]

is the only way to level up divinity is to afk on it ?

[nocturne patrol]

y, div = lab v2 xd

[atomic matrix]

Isee and if i dont mistake I need lv 2 for the doot to be working right ?

[nocturne patrol]

y

[bleak gazelle]

https://imgur.com/AKe8Jux

[light jay]

wish i was one of them!

[bleak gazelle]

Soon ™️

[light jay]

soon being probably months from now

[craggy obsidian]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml# over here it says if alchemic is unlocked, switch looter and refiller, what does switch mean here, do i replace looter and refiller with alchemic? but i can only replace on of them

[nocturne patrol]

why i dont have yellow print anymore ? uwu

[prime wasp]

You got lab bonus, maybe from Arctis or Doot

[atomic matrix]

lab bonus + god bonus so you have x6 now

[nocturne patrol]

i get this when i get harriep but now that not yellow anymore, idk if that change something

purrmep*

[light jay]

i want to question why you used uwu here (out of curiosity)

[atomic matrix]

cuz uwu

[oak compass]

is there anything worth buying in the gem shop for W5 for f2p players?

[light jay]

sprinkler and div buffs

[nocturne patrol]

oh i was link to arctis instead of nobisect on skill talent

[light jay]

there seems to be a lot of good stuff for w5

but since div is tied to the amount of time players on it you should probably go for that

[nocturne patrol]

sparkie divinity are pog

[oak compass]

how many should i get?

[nocturne patrol]

2 is good

[oak compass]

ok thanks

[nocturne patrol]

and one sprinkler

[zinc peak]

wait the sparkie sounds really strong compared to the rest of the gem purchases? For 250gems?

[nocturne patrol]

price go up when u buy one

[zinc peak]

Yeah for sure, but still

[nocturne patrol]

not a lot of thing to buy in w5 shop

[torn orchid]

How much exp are you people getting in divinity I get 17 per hour on my es and that feels low

[nocturne patrol]

try to get stamp and vial for xp

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Divinity u can see all sources that give xp

[buoyant lintel]

how can I get 1 million eff on my vman

[nocturne patrol]

stamp, alchemy, vial

[buoyant lintel]

oh right multitool frick I dont got that

[nocturne patrol]

and try to grap w6 for get unlimited lvl stamp

[buoyant lintel]

huh

[nocturne patrol]

Carry a lot maestro

vman*

[buoyant lintel]

oh yeah already got that

you mean no stamp lvl cap

[nocturne patrol]

y

[light jay]

hol up do balloons give exp?

[nocturne patrol]

no aha

like lab no candy or balloon

[buoyant lintel]

pearls

[prime wasp]

You can pearl Lab though

[neat siren]

how do i make this cycle quicker

[buoyant lintel]

no

[prime wasp]

Omniphau and DK talent

[neat siren]

i already used dk

[spiral path]

red salt vial

[buoyant lintel]

not worth after 10k

[spiral path]

I'm still going for the billion, you can't stop me!

[nocturne patrol]

this carry a lot

[neat siren]

i wanna claim it rn i need red salts for new recipes damn it!

[buoyant lintel]

thems recipes can wait

I can craft 2 tiers ahead worth of gear yet here I am

[neat siren]

real

[devout harbor]

The salts problems are everywhere

[neat siren]

damn wtf 100% shiny chance?

[buoyant lintel]

late game ppl legit laugh in the face of salt

[buoyant lintel]

go get shiny snitch

[devout harbor]

We dont talk about endgamers

[buoyant lintel]

75% of players:

[nocturne patrol]

Evergreen are so rare, i only get 2 today bruh

[spiral path]

only 819 more claims

[devout harbor]

They dont got problems they make them

[lapis mesa]

almost perfect

[trail ore]

are there ways to jump damage in W5 or is it just assumed that late W5 push damage will be well under mob HP?

[buoyant lintel]

no, they make up fake problems

oh no I dont have 300 green stacks

[devout harbor]

Fr

[buoyant lintel]

you only need 30m for ES or DK if ur pushing to W6, mainly what you want are kills

3rd god in div and lab very good

[buoyant lintel]

it's unrealistic to hit multi-kill in W5, but go ahead if you want to suspend your time to get to W6

[spiral path]

I turned my gaming garden into a winter wonderland for december

[buoyant lintel]

ur gunna need more acc later on

I think it's 65.5k or sum

[trail ore]

i have shaq going up slowly and should have mats for some extra wis bubbles, but noted

[buoyant lintel]

wait nvm mb 39k is enough

[nocturne patrol]

i only have t5 max xd

[trail ore]

k

[buoyant lintel]

wait nono 54k sorry

the 39k dudes dont drop keys you need 54k

[spare rune]

Any tips on gaming

[buoyant lintel]

uhhh i'd say just get prayer and 3rd div god

[spiral path]

depends on where you currently are in it

[devout harbor]

33 div of 40 to release bubo of his prision

[spare rune]

Just got to the tens of green bits, already have all mutations and log

[devout harbor]

Welp the last fix is blue after 2 or 1 red more

[spiral path]

how is your farming? most of your speed will now come from farming + squirrel + fertilizer upgrades

[bleak gazelle]

if you're true f2p I probably wouldn't buy too many div sparks. they're to speed things up but not necessary compared to some of the w6/hole purchases

[spare rune]

Farming is pretty bad, just started on earthy seeds

[buoyant lintel]

what W6 gemshop is a must

[spare rune]

And I'm ways away from the crop Evo bonus from scientist guy

[bleak gazelle]

at least one instagrow, all farming plots, and as many slimes as you can manage

[buoyant lintel]

ALL?

[spare rune]

Pay to win fr fr

[buoyant lintel]

huh, my gem pile looking real small now

[fallow aurora]

I still don't have them all because they are so expensive

[sturdy shell]

That farming achievement being locked behind gem shop purchases is kinda stupid

[buoyant lintel]

should I go farm plots or slimes first

summoning seems cool

[devout harbor]

Get the ones you can

[buoyant lintel]

I have the luxury of choice atm

[spiral path]

I only got my last 3 plots this week, because I wanted more land rank for the Tome

I wonder how long it will take to get this hat...

[spare rune]

Are hats rare

[spiral path]

well, wiki has that one a 1 in 2000

I just finally got the funky hat at 1 in 1000 after months

[sturdy shell]

I'd get one slime and rest plots imo

[spiral path]

for context, pristine charms are 1 in 1000 ish

[spare rune]

Are the earlier hats more common or something

I have like 3 atm

[spiral path]

yeah, starts at like 1 in 10 with base drop chance

how cooked am I?

[stable kayak]

Is this a must buy?

[bleak gazelle]

m0

[bleak gazelle]

any ender is good if you need artifacts still

[spiral path]

yup, just went down to m0

[bleak gazelle]

in theory, it should be easier with high charm max, since lower ranks are rolled more

just dunno what the sweet spot would be for that

[spiral path]

well, m3 wasn't really panning out, so might as well go all in on m0, split my dudes between f11 for the hat and the yellow bet floor

[spiral path]

my enders are ass, but at least I have a full roster

[bleak gazelle]

nah, the extra 3-500 levels from m3 probably are too much

240 sounds good though

still missing like 6 here

[stable kayak]

Thank you, I am still missing some so Ill get it!

[spiral path]

oh, I just mean my dudes were not doing well, nowhere near the yellow belt Floor in m3...

so close I can taste it

not like it matters, it will be years before I go back to putting points into matching scims

still have 4 points to go on slow roast wiz and 14 on Faux Jewels

still regretting not getting the equinox boosters when they were on the gem shop

[bleak gazelle]

i have them...but also dumped 10 points into food lust

[spiral path]

I messed up and put 11, so I feel your pain +1

[neat siren]

when's a good mult to do bravery

[spiral path]

I think I asked the other day, but no one responded, so the answer might be unknown, is there a guide or list showing the required crop evo chance for each crop? I want to know how close I am to 195

[prime wasp]

this is #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

I can ask for you hold on

[spiral path]

I know, but Ace might know, or know if it is known

[bleak gazelle]

AR or wiki should have it

[bleak gazelle]

though idk how to read wiki's
i guess you can just take the evo required and find 1% of that value...or 0.1%

[stuck river]

heard its like e152 for final crop

[bleak gazelle]

early on, ideally every 20 hours
as long as you do it every 48 hours then you're not losing out on multi

[stuck river]

why is playing on main starting to get bored

[neat siren]

ok thanks

[stuck river]

@bleak gazelle possible to get autoloot on alts?

[prime wasp]

Yeah just pay more

[bleak gazelle]

possible sure, i haven't and probably won't though

[stuck river]

aside this

[stuck river]

so ur alt still no autoloot?

[bleak gazelle]

i don't play active on it much, mostly just during events

[prime wasp]

Don't worry it's just one of those times when the grind is long

[bleak gazelle]

i also play on web so i usually have it on top of other windows so it's easy to see when i'm lagging

[silent geode]

I just did a big reprint on my vman

[prime wasp]

same I love web

[stuck river]

im starting a solo vman account now

Also i play on web cuz less lag

[trail ore]

are sigils worth progressing in w5 or should i hold off for awhile?

[bleak gazelle]

i'd only do the first three for some more stats for accuracy (aka stop at the one that gives you accuracy, just first level)

[buoyant lintel]

from personal experience, they get too slow way too fast, just put them on caldrons

[trail ore]

k

[stuck river]

does spear aoe on jman?

Duh i can just test that myself

[neat siren]

fart bringer fornite player lmao

[silent geode]

Yes

[stuck river]

so the answer is no

[neat siren]

did you run out of names

[bleak gazelle]

bug biter isn't an archer smh

[silent geode]

I didn't come up with even half of the names 💀

[buoyant lintel]

I mean I ended up mis-naming all my characters other than my DK

bserker on wood is crazy

[neat siren]

oh god imagine doing wellington quest

[buoyant lintel]

😭

[gaunt cave]

does skilled dimwit ruin divinity? since theres no efficiency, and you get minus exp

[buoyant lintel]

did it once, and crazy enough first tried it

[neat siren]

skilled dimwit doesn't affect lab and divinity afaik

[nocturne patrol]

if u get a quick acces to a shop, wellington quest is easy

[bleak gazelle]

most things that affect "all skills" are only W1-3

[buoyant lintel]

divinity isnt affected by outside sources, xp % nor afk %, or eff %

[gaunt cave]

and what about the card sets, also no effecT?

[bleak gazelle]

biggie hours for double xp chance

[neat siren]

lab does get affected by afk and eff though

[buoyant lintel]

divinity just works on it's own

[neat siren]

do keep that in mind

[buoyant lintel]

ok nvm didnt know that

[neat siren]

wait does this mean amarok doesn't do anything

wtf

[gaunt cave]

so i guess leave skilled dimwit on for like almost everything, except maestro

[buoyant lintel]

div afk % isnt affected by outside sources

[neat siren]

so what's a recommended divinity card preset

[nocturne patrol]

it's good to keep this in lab for hit more multi ?

[neat siren]

wait... i have doot!

[buoyant lintel]

none, other than the biggie hours mentioned earlier

[neat siren]

the skill exp gain doesn't affect lab

[bleak gazelle]

was usually biggie hours + any worship cards that gave more max charge/charge rate if you don't have them passive yet

[buoyant lintel]

im not so sure about lab, all ik is that eff % works

and possibly afk %

ig in that sense then xp % should work

[trail ore]

i wish i had a doot so i could stop being so unlucky trying to get goat

[neat siren]

well my div "preset" is realistically just my lab preset

[buoyant lintel]

I need a doot

at least I have slime, i heard that is pretty rare among the tier 5 treat ppl

oh right trading . . .

[neat siren]

i think i traded my slimes already sorry man

i have some moltis and sheepies tho

[trail ore]

i have a bunch of the low tier ones

trading was both a blessing and a curse, i got everything but doot really easily, but that makes there like zero incentive to ever consider rolling for it other than f2p

[neat siren]

well there is a new companion set coming out soon so you can technically save for that

[spiral path]

I was an idiot and used all my green gems rolling for pets to trade to people, no second doot, but some people got rift slugs and rams at least

[nocturne patrol]

new print poggers

gonna have to buy burning bad books from w3 10 book for get a good lvl on smart efficiency

[deft solstice]

new to vman, does his buffs only limit to one on a talent? Like when i get the buff for my sb's pirate flag, thats it?

or can there be more i can wait for before grinding them kills out?

[bleak gazelle]

that's probably in the bottom 3 for most useless gemshop purchases

[bleak gazelle]

you get all of them that you have the levels for

[nocturne patrol]

really ?

gonna keep my gems so

[spiral path]

I completely missread it and maxed it out 💀

[barren harbor]

any warrior willing to help open doot?

[spiral path]

sure

[frail vigil]

I just dropped 2 capes from the same Kattlekruk.... that's lucky...

[bleak gazelle]

it raises the minimum book level you can roll, but when you can just spend 20 to max (or usually just click a few) then it's not worth it, even if you're whaling

[spiral path]

what server?

[barren harbor]

pizza 4 thank you

[spiral path]

I'm on GeFeFB

[nocturne patrol]

i'm very low on speed of library

[spiral path]

are we doing this?

[deft solstice]

ohh so sb is the only class whose talent that counts kills for an account wide buff gets an upgrade for vman

[neat siren]

oh dude i thought it was MAX level

no wonder it's so bad

if it was max i think it would be S

[barren harbor]

so sorry someone else showed up thank you though!

[spiral path]

no worries, might as well use this and summon him anyways, dootophone to the rescue

395 bonejoepickles was not enough

[calm knot]

is riftwalker package worth it? currently in w5

[neat siren]

does shop stock eventually go to 3 for single stock items with enough stmap upgrades+achievement?

[neat siren]

nope it is not

[bleak gazelle]

only if you were planning to buy gems anyway

i remember the days when it was OP

[round dust]

Can you not use divinity pearls for divinity..?

[calm knot]

honestly idk what to buy the gems with

[round dust]

So black pearls and divinity are useless.

[bleak gazelle]

They're pearls from divinity, not for it

great for cooking

[round dust]

I know that it's just the name of them

I used like 50k balloons for cooking lol

[bleak gazelle]

rip. but yeah, now they're just for greenstacking

[neat siren]

if you're not playing using steam login you can use autoreview to see which gemshop upgrades you should be getting

there is another tierlist but it isn't up to date

[bleak gazelle]

or if you mean you don't know what pack to buy, here's a tierlist. latest two are probably high A tier, ribbon one might be S?? for now at lesat

[calm knot]

already got sacred method, just too impatient to wait for this riftwalker to rotate

been trying to get the phoenix wings and timeless

and the island explorer too

[bleak gazelle]

just buy them all

[calm knot]

how do i update my idleon efficiency again

[barren harbor]

i have way too many of those. Auto-loot, Sacred, Island, timeless, starter, serenity, dreamer, riftwalker, summer, chill, and new year...

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle what skills need to level up more on my vman please https://deirdreamber.idleonefficiency.com/

[lofty field]

Is it good to buy artifact captain?

[bleak gazelle]

better than cloud, but worse than the rest

loot is king, speed is 2nd best until you don't need it anymore

[lofty field]

Damn

Ihave 54 loot and 2 boat speed but didn know if it is worth it

Ender captain

[bleak gazelle]

Any of chopping/fishing/catching
You may want to redo your traps on VMan too, too, when you set them, hit the arrows to move over to Nature traps so you can pick the XP ones

[pastel kayak]

Will tomorrow

[lofty field]

Im in needed for artifactchance also for fury ancient

[bleak gazelle]

Oh, if you're talking enders, then yes, if you still need artifacts, every ender is worth. If you don't, then up to you. I'm going for full enders then just working on better enders, some others only take good enders

[lofty field]

Ahh okay

Then gonna use enders now

[nocturne patrol]

help, if i forfeit in worship, best wave score is save or i will have the old ?

[trail ore]

does bubo just scale horribly?

[bleak gazelle]

not sure, never had to forfeit
I saw some people saying it wouldn't count anything new if you did but
just remember that best wave only saves if you've full cleared map. can always sell all your towers to die quickly

[bleak gazelle]

in terms of sheet damage compared to ES/SB, yes, since its damage talent requires level 4 vials

[trail ore]

ok

im doing the w4 troll kill achieves and its definitely pain so that makes sense

[bleak gazelle]

it also has no high damage coefficent skills since it's more poison/dot based

[trail ore]

specifically grinding out portals

[bleak gazelle]

it actually does become best for portal pushing once you've got the setup for it

but need talent levels for that

[trail ore]

yeah that seems like an insane amount of scaling from where im at

[snow light]

can you afk at gloomie mushes?

[bleak gazelle]

How do I farm the Mushroom Cave?
There are three things to farm in this cavern, Opals and Cards from active farming and Dragon Warrior Statues from afk.
#1303761365273415700 message

Active farm on a Siegebreaker with plunder setup for cards and kills to push layers for Opals.
AFK with everyone else to farm Statues utilizing the guaranteed rare drop method. Idleon Toolbox has a calculator in their tools section or check this thread
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1085023989769969746

TL;DR - More DR equals shorter times to claim, more MK means more statues per claim.

Expect afk claim times in the 6-8 hour range for 30x DR, 10-15 hours for 20x, 20+ for 12x

[snow light]

ty ty

[magic ingot]

is it worth grinding out the divine scarf for all characters? (just finished w6 maps)

[neat siren]

why is there a killcount for xylobones, are they supposed to be grindable outside of colo

[devout hatch]

Is it just me or is gaming garden generating less bits?

OMG, NONE OF MY DKS HAD GAMING BITS TALENTED ON

[oak compass]

When are some efficient times to use balloons/candies?

[devout hatch]

level up lab, worship, cooking

[lofty field]

at what hours do you guys stop at hole jail

currently im at average 500 hours dunno if its stop at 2k for a time to progress on other things

[bleak gazelle]

never stop 2k is a good spot to stop at bravery, but you can also stop at 750 for now

first stopping point for justice is probably 300, but i'd go for 24k there before bravery

[lofty field]

ahh okay

damn it will be hard for a while then if i cant retell story

i got only 1k dmg with max dmg upgrade only a few lvl

[golden folio]

prepare for another jail when c11-15 comes out

[lofty field]

will always prep for another jail

been doing jail for months now

[bleak gazelle]

Once you've gotten 750/300, I'd probably do like 2k > 10k > 24k for each, just alternate J and B

[lofty field]

ahh okay

but i still not unlocked justice yet

only at lamps

[bleak gazelle]

if you want to keep some people in bravery for 2k that's fine, probably plenty of other things to do

[lofty field]

ahh okay

btw

This 2 good to take?

[bleak gazelle]

loot value is great. artifact is good if it hits, useless otherwise. regular captain stats only affect their boats and the chests that they bring back themselves. loot or speed is usually preferred over arti (especially if that boat doesn't have speed to get anywhere with an artifact )

[lofty field]

yeah im in needed for artifacts chance tho

tryna hit the other for ancient and then eldritch

[stuck river]

apparently me need funky hat

[stable parrot]

time to see how good my first 24k justice runs gonna be

[bleak gazelle]

75/6

[stable parrot]

id cry

[bleak gazelle]

it's a shit mechanic

[stuck river]

alright final megafish acquired

[stable parrot]

Someone has an opinion

It’s okay, I like jistice

[lofty field]

whats your total dmg tho on clear megafish

[stuck river]

what

[lofty field]

or you jusr arrive at megafish

[stuck river]

i got mf12 just now

[lofty field]

oohhh how much total dmg tho

[stable parrot]

4HP and 8 dismissals so far, this is OP

[stuck river]

49

[lofty field]

whut

how

im at 4 but 70ish

[stuck river]

are we talking about the same thing

[lofty field]

yea

[stable parrot]

The hand can go fuck itself

[stuck river]

whats ur level on poppy bonus

[lofty field]

megafish in poppy right💀

its 59

[stuck river]

mine is 53

[lofty field]

yeah maybe you need to upgrade

[stuck river]

which megafish you at

[lofty field]

5 now

[stuck river]

Thats 17

[lofty field]

ohh damn

[stuck river]

by 12 i mean i just got the 1st final one

damn it cheese

[lofty field]

i though at 12 megafish lvl

keep workin on

[stuck river]

bjps needs to learn to buy themselves

[lofty field]

buy them feature from lava

[stable parrot]

130/19

[cyan hatch]

I would buy more but lava refuses to give me more packs

[bitter echo]

ive got no A string yet, what kinda string setup should i be goin for?

[cyan hatch]

Damn right

[neat siren]

I HIT THE 0.4% FIRST TRY

[hexed grotto]

How do i get the third God link in the hole?

Got it

[neat siren]

oh boy vman time

[frail tapir]

Does anyone have a list of what upgrades i should buy in the task board for world 5

[golden folio]

go to #bot-commands and use !merit(world's number) to know the merit order

[broken crypt]

I have a question regarding justice, I approved the scripticus that orders me to approve next case, but I got little timmy, who I can't approve due to money bag before, will rejection end my run or just eat 1 health and can I safe myself with dismissal or not?

[neat siren]

it is time

holy shit the card pack gave me 2* nchizoar

and a 3* mole wtf

so vman has like no points to start with

oh vman gains points for speedrunning

[brave holly]

and one step ahead

tallent in 3rd

[neat siren]

yeah that one

uhhhh what do i do now with my vman

[brave holly]

get a ton of multikill :p

[astral leaf]

I've harriep in the hole active but when I check my guy in the lab it isn't purple but yellow. How come?

[neat siren]

what the hell basically none of the vman skills get affected by rift slug

that would be too op i suppose

[wind dome]

get high agility gear for speedrunning

[neat siren]

261% movement speed is the best i can do for now

time for my first ever speedrun

[wind dome]

good luck

[neat siren]

hm wait does doing bosses during a speedrun use keys

[wind dome]

i think its same with the teleports

[neat siren]

just trying to get more portals from boss

30 portals first try, not bad i'd say

definitely not optimal

for first ever speedrun this is definitely very good

oh shit i have to do the speedrun separately on both presets?

[green rampart]

You want points in the cooking speed talent before anything else. Class exp doesn't matter

[neat siren]

oh wait i just don't have it leveled

[green rampart]

No, put 1 point into it

[neat siren]

that's my fighting preset, i'll put the points into the cooking speed one on my skilling

[green rampart]

You want the cooking speed always

It's the biggest multiplier to your cooking speed

[neat siren]

should i be skilling or fighting on my vman

looks like this rn (all the level 38 stuff is from rift slug)

this is on skilling preset

[warm path]

why

book the last 4 skills + enhancement

[neat siren]

i already booked enhancement, i don't have more books rn

[warm path]

what level is ur book?

[neat siren]

max 145

[golden folio]

bone marrow is huge

[warm path]

you wont really have points for all of that

[neat siren]

i know, they all only have 1 point in them

rn i have nothing else to level so i just threw them in there

yes i said that in the caption

so this is kinda the best i can do rn i guess

still very new to vman

average idleon player

idk i had extra points

there's kinda nothing else i can put my points into

multikill on skilling preset?

[warm path]

yes

[neat siren]

oh shit it is

i also can't read

ah ffs

[warm path]

I mean what youre doing rn is fine considering you can just reset talents easily now

[green rampart]

lol

[wanton mirage]

Question: When having Doot pet, do i still need to link to a god?

[green rampart]

you still need 1 person to link to purmeep iirc

[golden folio]

time to resort to talent reset pots

[neat siren]

thankfully i have still been buying the fragments daily

[wanton mirage]

Absolutely busted effect

That's why my 3d printer numbers are now purple

Instead of blue

[neat siren]

much better

[cyan hatch]

Freedooooom

[golden folio]

book bone marrow and statue one asap

[neat siren]

books will have to wait, but i assume priority is marrow > multikill > statue > epoch

i still haven't gotten onyx statues so idk how good the statue one is

in fact i haven't interacted with the statue dude in like a week

[green rampart]

the statue one is extremely good

[neat siren]

lemme go see how he's doing

[golden folio]

go farm those onyxes

[neat siren]

the stats are actually crazy good already

[neat siren]

no choccy chip

have to wait until april to start crystal farming

[karmic yarrow]

is there a limit to how long u can afk equinox

[neat siren]

if i'm being completely honest i think i'll get the 20k power statues before choccy comes on rotation

ok so what do i do with my vman now

skilling first?

or does it matter

[golden folio]

you cant

[green rampart]

You wait for the talent to be up again, then you book the skill and dump all the points in for a longer speed run=more portals=more points for everything else.

[neat siren]

speaking of which this is my fighting preset, how is this one looking

is enhancement priority on fighting preset?

or can i ignore it

[golden folio]

no not really

[neat siren]

i guess i can just skill with my vman for now

get that exp up

gave him the upgrade not too long ago, time to give him a run

oh also when do i start doing mob prints on vman, now?

oh that's when i use printer

[warm path]

Get 2 setups 1 for damage and the other for sampling

[neat siren]

ok so how does speedrun work exactly, every time i use the talent i reset all my portal progress (not from the skill, for the current speedrun)?

each speedrun is a new attempt i assume and i don't keep my portals from my highest run

[warm path]

yea you dont keep them

[neat siren]

so rn i should just be trying to get as many portals as possible instead of focusing on sampling then

[warm path]

for sampling the only important part is bosses

you can do 2 speedruns 1 for portals and the other for sampling

where you only kill as many bosses as you can then go sample

[neat siren]

you still have to get to the bosses, but since you can skip the higher portal reqs i assume you'll just get there faster

[warm path]

yea but at some point you will kill all the bosses and want to start progressing w6 mobs for portals but for sampling thats useless

[neat siren]

wait why are bosses the most important? is it the boss talent for respawn?

[green rampart]

because of the talent that gives you mob respawn rate for each boss kill

[warm path]

yea respawn is a huge buff

[green rampart]

its the 3rd talent, spider face looking one

[neat siren]

so optimally i would want to save my keys for each boss so that i can do nightmare on all of them

[green rampart]

yes

[warm path]

nightmare unlocks the other difficulties you only need to do that

[neat siren]

so essentially
push to boss, defeat boss on nightmare, go to next world, repeat, go as far as i can and then go sample

and sample with void radius on

[green rampart]

sorta, optimizing speedruns is about using void radius well

[warm path]

yeah basically

[neat siren]

ok then i think for now i can ignore the sampling part

[green rampart]

you will be moving around the worlds as you have void radius on cooldown or ready etc

[warm path]

and respawn is capped by your movement speed so on vman speedruns you will need speed pots to utilize all the extra respawn when you sample

[green rampart]

is it not capped by the visual cap? never did figure that out

[neat siren]

so i should try to max my agi on fighting preset

[neat siren]

according to the vman speedrun guide in #1084911530417606656 it's capped at 350%

[warm path]

no its not

[green rampart]

visual movement speed is whats capped at 350%, but respawn still takes from higher movement speeds?

[warm path]

yeah

[neat siren]

oh

[warm path]

i think the visual cap was nerfed even further but its irrelevant anyway

[neat siren]

does the eternal luk talent not apply to vman himself

cus the other 3 do

wait the other also don't apply to vman

[warm path]

I guess not but you do get the luk indirectly

[neat siren]

the game bugged and increased the max level for the other 3 when i swapped presets

now i can't replicate it again after i cloud saved

[green rampart]

XD

vman talents are weird

[warm path]

ok nvm you do it get but it doesnt update instantly for some reason

[grave ferry]

finally

[green rampart]

nice

[neat siren]

thinking if it's worth getting all w1-w3 skills to at least level 30 on all my characters for the passive cards

that seems like way too much effort

[warm path]

If you dont think its worth the effort then you probably didnt spend enough time grinding out those cards yet cuz its op

[glass escarp]

Hi Gents,
I see that the recommended stuff for w5 to be Chizoar, but those here are not better ?
They will give less %deff just...

Any advice ?
Thank you!

[neat siren]

i will in fact go and get those cards now

[warm path]

They got buffed recently so they are decent now but honestly it wont do much of a difference

[peak verge]

Immaculate map for 2k killroy equinox cloud

[sudden jackal]

hi all, can anybody explain holy pearl to me? I have the feeling it doesn't do anything, my main is class level 240.. so it will give 240 xp?? This is nothing right? When saying this out loud I am sure I misunderstand something but I don't know what

[warm path]

idk how it scales but at 701 I am getting 4.5% exp per pearl

[neat siren]

i swear to god this god damn troll does not drop a card

[sudden jackal]

"Hold down to gain Class EXP. The amount you gain is based on your Class LV."

I thought I get 240 XP when I am level 240

lul, I know, that's why I am saying I misunderstand something. Hmm ok..
And about black pearls.. why don't they work on lab or divinity.. ain't these "skills"? (so this efaunt card which gives skill XP %, would not work as well ?)

if the AFK info button is reliable, I can easily check this myself, but I just wonder if there is eerything included in there or if there is some background math going on which is not displayed

[cyan hatch]

My life feels so empty now, what do I active farm now that I don't need to CC

[warm path]

Lab exp is based on efficiency and theres a card that gives lab exp specifically

[neat siren]

15 chaotic troll no card

this card actually does not exist

[cyan hatch]

no but my prints are too slow for that for now

no point in ccing

[neat siren]

I GOT IT

[hasty raven]

how long should I keep peeps in divinity when arriving in W5?

[cyan hatch]

yeeahe but idk what to active now

I need choco chip for statue stuff

[sudden jackal]

srsly, super annoying, I have still to unlock the first god, I am having such a bad luck, it feels like I should place them all inside to get something, but having all of them there feels like a waste

[hasty raven]

I have two gods unlocked, so I can technically have lab active too

but 🤷‍♂️

[cyan hatch]

A month is quite a while

I would active on my DB for bones b/c why not, but at the same time I wanna afk for ladles

[hasty raven]

don't forget to change their style if you reach lvl 5 etc ;p

[warm path]

I would say either keep ccing or active db untill you can get choco

[sudden jackal]

i did.. but still

[cyan hatch]

Only reason to cc is to increase liquid cap, literally no other reason rn

which is fine but eh?

[warm path]

thats a good reason tho

[cyan hatch]

I wish I could candy ladles

that would have been awesome

I'm near the end

But I also need way more incubation speed to get eggs to speed up spices

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Popped Corn

[warm path]

did you onyx all of your statues?

[cyan hatch]

No choco chip, haven't started that

[warm path]

ES ones at least cuz u dont have choco

[cyan hatch]

I still need to do the initial quest

20k power statues or w/e

[warm path]

farm statues on wood mush then

on ur es

[cyan hatch]

wood mush doesn't give power statues though

🤨

[warm path]

you can get those later on DK you dont need to do it in order

[cyan hatch]

I need it for the quest wdym

also why es? it's not main page

[warm path]

crystal doesnt drop bullseye

[cyan hatch]

I thought dk is better for anything not main page

[whole cove]

how to get crafted obols to count for slab?
do I have to equip them

[peak verge]

Correct.

But bullseye statues are main page.

[warm path]

Because usually crystals drop everything in rare bags and dk is just better at that but bullseye statue is an exception

[peak verge]

Also the w3 statues.

[warm path]

well bullseye isnt on the main page so maybe people get confused

[cyan hatch]

I hate pushing arena

So damn slow or super laggy

I just want my 6th pet slot to keep pushing spices

[neat siren]

dude istg cloudsave between mobile and pc is so ass

the fucking 200m gmush kills i got from a candy didn't get cloud saved

i hit cloud save TWICE

and i lost those 200m permanently it seems

fuck my life

[cyan hatch]

F

Pain

it's very prominent on the big idleon guide doc

I'd love to hear alternatives for next time

It's very slow but very reliable

[limber hornet]

Should I rush to unlock Anvil Tab 5? I waited until I got to world 6 for tab 4, but I don't know how worth it the stuff in tab 5 is for me right now

[cyan hatch]

dw about it

[peak verge]

You should get all tabs to keep up with the weapon upgrades.

[limber hornet]

I'm gonna get em all eventually, I just don't know if I should hyperfocus on crafting it immediately

[cyan hatch]

nope

[peak verge]

If the materials aren't hard to get, go for it.

[limber hornet]

Catching will be the annoying one, but yeah I think it's not too bad

[peak verge]

The flies of all things? That's... odd to struggle with ngl.

[cyan hatch]

They are slower compared to other things if u aren't cracked up with upgrades

[peak verge]

Usually most people struggle with the void salts there.

[grizzled sinew]

looking at atom collider bc im trying to see what the default setting of atom conversion stack size % because i dont want to lose my Gstacks when i eventully make it
doees hydrogen take NSLB upgrades into account?

[peak verge]

Wdym?

[cyan hatch]

Justice gives a lot of catching eff?

[grizzled sinew]

this reduction resets back to 0% when upgrading any stamp max lv

player upgraded
or upgrade max lv in genearl

general*

[peak verge]

NSLB doesn't trigger it. Only manually upgrading the max cap will reset it.

[grizzled sinew]

okay cool
nice to know

[peak verge]

As for the other question, keep your atom collider on 1050M and "OFF". Never switch from these.

[grizzled sinew]

is it off by default when built

[peak verge]

I don't remember.

[grizzled sinew]

ah

also nice spamton pfp

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-dance-spinning-twirl-rotate-gif-26801135

[grizzled sinew]

wait
you seem slightly familiar
think ive seen ya before around W1-2

[limber hornet]

I FORGOT THE SALTS

Oh god

[grizzled sinew]

[limber hornet]

I don't even have them unlocked yet

[peak verge]

Perhaps a very very long time ago, but now that you mention it your name also seems oddly familiar. Were you that one guy that wanted to finish W1 in its entirety before pushing?

[grizzled sinew]

void salts indeed are a pain

thankfully i only needed to rank it up once so i could get the final shrine

[grizzled sinew]

yea im mr very super stable foundations account :D

i am in W3 now
things are going decent

[peak verge]

Bruh, it's been lifetimes since I've seen you.

[grizzled sinew]

indeed lol

[peak verge]

Then again I haven't really looked into the lower world chats in a while.

[grizzled sinew]

far fair

im just glad my poor memory managed to remember your name./pfp

[grizzled sinew]

i have mostly graduated from chilling in W1-2 to now mostly chillin in W3-4

rarely do i go to higher world chats unless i have questions relating to them

atom colider is W3 but you need W5 mats to craft it depressingly

and the final 2 towers need W4 andW5 mats too

ive built everything else tho thankfully

glad to hear your doing well tho based on your name

[peak verge]

My only complaint is that I'm running out of stuff to do actively. Otherwise I'm just chilling.

[grizzled sinew]

fair
it does start to get like that

thats what the ending of my W2 was
just grinding sand giants for coins for maxing alch P2W tab

which now would have taken a fraction of the time with vault now existing

[devout harbor]

Me 24/7 on the jails till the first cap to do other things

[rose monolith]

Is this content not available?

[devout harbor]

I think so

[rose monolith]

Wll, I have unlocked "everything", and there is not 900 undiscovered recipes :p

Anvil 5 btw

[molten jolt]

imagine you're in mid world 5, and discover you can place shrine...

[cyan hatch]

We still here

[devout harbor]

Prob w7 placeholder

[rose monolith]

Fair enough, but i am lewking for the anvil 5 unlocks :p

[peak verge]

This is the max.

[peak verge]

Mob drops babyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

[waxen fern]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[rose monolith]

Fair enough, just nice to know that there no secret "do this to unlock the unlocks" :p

[peak verge]

Not yet.

[rose monolith]

Is it even possible to gather enough storage space to unlock Anvil 6?

[peak verge]

You'll need the w5 bags for carry capacity.

[devout harbor]

Idk im on 4 still

These salt keep me away of the next anvil

[cloud flame]

daily boss kills for gems have been reduced to 100 right?

thx

[livid wedge]

guys what to do with sailing after all sovereign?

[coral perch]

Do I keep pushing, or do I wait for nobi then push, or do I not push at all?

[weary gulch]

Upgrade boats, get all void captains and wait for more artifacts

[livid wedge]

thanks!

that's just for future proofing myself right no real reason for void captains right?

[weary gulch]

Yeah , you get some tome points for boats too

[livid wedge]

ok great thanks!

[novel mural]

I abused chips from laboratory, always put everything that could affect combat stats on the next character before claiming

[solar drift]

Tryhard, smh

[novel mural]

[solar drift]

I would never

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[novel mural]

if it works it works, same with pocket divinity

kept omni + changed harriep to nobi

you can change stuff whenever, its not abusing anything

this is how the system works

[solar drift]

🔨

[glad isle]

chat is real

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-family-guy-perhaps-maybe-gif-16249623

[novel mural]

Shiro does not want us to be efficient

[solar drift]

Ofc

Can’t let people catch up to me

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-gif-4169442390448293969

[novel mural]

Nanami on cloud nine

[solar drift]

Nah

Hell is where he belong

[novel mural]

wdym 😭

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/wut-shrug-gif-21587752

[gaunt cave]

does divinity get wasted if i check slightly off the hour? 1/hr

[solar drift]

Most likely

[glad isle]

kermit go brr

[cyan hatch]

Get me out of here, please

[thorn jetty]

why stone thing bro

[cyan hatch]

It works

It's slow as shit, but it works

[thorn jetty]

but at what cost

[cyan hatch]

I will alt f4 the second I finish wave 125

Assuming I won't randomly die before that

[thorn jetty]

do u not have burger

[cyan hatch]

I do

[solar drift]

good I was about to say to leave after getting the 5th slots

6*

[cyan hatch]

Yeah never again

I think I'm like 2 hours in this

[thorn jetty]

i think looter is better then stone guy

if he gives the heals in time

[cyan hatch]

if

[solar drift]

What was the pet that died

[cyan hatch]

branch

[solar drift]

Should have take looter

[cyan hatch]

I tried it last time, the lag was so bad

[solar drift]

Remove all pet from the yard

Switch to server/channel that are empty

[cyan hatch]

Will do next time, though idk when will be the next time I push arena after I get 6th slot

[solar drift]

Either way when you have the 6th slots

You can go to 200 instantly

What’s your pet level

because 6k-10k is enough

you should use the star sign + Bm talent

[cyan hatch]

What star sign?

[solar drift]

pet dmg increase

[cyan hatch]

they are all at least 8k.

[glad isle]

oh

[cyan hatch]

I probably don't have enough stars yet

[solar drift]

Ye 200 is free after unlocking the 6th slots then

[glad isle]

where can i get star signs info

[cyan hatch]

I don't wanna waste candy on those yet, maybe when I hoard more

the wiki

[glad isle]

i wana get em

[glad isle]

ty stranger

[solar drift]

the bottom right team

Should take you to lv200 in less than 2hours

[cyan hatch]

Was using the 2nd last bottom right team

[glad isle]

i cant find one in the trappers folly 😭

[dusty nova]

are the bravery afk hours permanent or do i have to afk for 24000 everytime i wanna do it

[glad isle]

can we candy for star signs

like the afk ones

[spark stone]

yes but you need to use a candy that provides the whole time at once (or more)

[glad isle]

oh

rip 72 hr candy

[void shell]

Takes 3x that if you have monolith unlocked

[cyan hatch]

wake me up

[void shell]

Are you a monolith enjoyer?

Dang..

It's painfully slow on rounds with a lot of pets

Gets worse

[bitter echo]

glad im done with 200 arena, though i need to try to get the damn barley lost achievement still

[hexed perch]

Is it normal for the 4th slot there to be empty?

[void shell]

Got it easily, just go to an area with high hp, normal 6 team monolith build and turn off auto when at 5

5%

[cyan hatch]

yup

[bitter echo]

did you buy it and forget about it?

[void shell]

See you in a few hours then

[hexed perch]

Nope, just logged in. Reached 35 yesterday

[void shell]

Hit a new refresh or nah?

[cyan hatch]

Wish I could just swap setup mid run

[bitter echo]

im guessin 35 is the unlock level for that one? its been a while so i dont remember

poor captain got marooned

[hexed perch]

Yes it is

Sad

[bitter echo]

its fine, the odds of it being a significantly good captain isnt huge anyways, itll likely be fixed tomorrow

[cloud flame]

if you unlocked it before the next reset, yes

[hexed perch]

What lol

That's weird

[void shell]

Not a new working day, receuitment hasn't called

[cyan hatch]

https://tenor.com/bnbt5.gif

[naive swan]

second ancient artifact wooo

[cyan hatch]

Almost there

[void shell]

What's your lineup?

Arena 200 is safe with or without monolith

It's more about damage scaling

[cyan hatch]

dead one is a branch

I'll go take a nap maybe i'll be at round 126 when I wake up

[void shell]

Double refiller..

Do you hate damage 😂

Even a slime would have saved you hours prob

[solar drift]

The reason why it take him so long is just no looter

[glad isle]

bone grinding 😭

takes time

[simple wadi]

Tell me about it. This next upgrade was 350 upgrades away four days ago >>

[molten jolt]

Hey, i'm trying to unlock Vman, any tips for the 1M deathnote kill per mobs ? I feel it's going to take forever,
For now i'm using SB but still

any tips for it ?

[simple wadi]

Imo, don't use just one chr for it. Brute force it with all your chrs.

[cyan hatch]

^

[nocturne patrol]

use all u char for this, lvl up ur deatnotes and bubble that boost multikill

Nobisect too

[molten jolt]

i'm around 60k/h with nobisect rn, roughly the same with all char

[nocturne patrol]

go upgrade u alchemy,vial,stamp so u get boost

[glad isle]

takes time what else can i say

other than accidentally going in portal with bones on floor

[nocturne patrol]

omni time uwu

[glad isle]

it happens with sticks 😭

[simple wadi]

My new endeavor: getting T8 bush. My full board of chem plants with one bush failed, so I shall use the method of... ignoring gaming for two weeks and hope for the best.

[glad isle]

oo new upgrade

femor hoarding

[faint wigeon]

not worth getting I guess?

[nocturne patrol]

it's a ender ?

[faint wigeon]

yep

[nocturne patrol]

take it for multi no ?

[cloud flame]

still not worth it unless you have a shitty captain

[faint wigeon]

rightyo boss

[nocturne patrol]

it's not good even for multi ?

[simple wadi]

Only if it's replacing something also bad.

[dire rose]

Anyone know why the vip book shelf isn't giving me a book but still using my points?

[echo crag]

are you filtering star talent book ?

[faint wigeon]

filter a book perchance?

[dire rose]

Not that I know of but I'll check

Yep thanks

[nocturne patrol]

Ty for tips

[simple wadi]

Every upgrade of mine is an hour of farming, haha

[silk nebula]

If i have two es, does the talent that increases divinity exp stacks?

[bleak gazelle]

None of the account-wide talents stacks, uses the highest level that's on an active/selected preset

[silk nebula]

Alrite thx

[novel mural]

I'm feeling a small amount of burnout

[bleak gazelle]

just throw crystal farming on in the background and ignore it for a few days

[novel mural]

wouldnt hurt to get the other 8 stacks of kachows

ace, tell me something, do I max out metal detector before moving on to faux jewels?

what do you recommend

[peak verge]

I feel like you should be long done with gaming before that becomes an issue.

[faint wigeon]

just a few level in metal detector is enough proly?

[novel mural]

[vast badge]

why do i still only get 1 ticket per day from colo, even though i bought the upgrade

[faint wigeon]

upon use, you get 2

[vast badge]

oh i see, thank you

[humble bolt]

noticing my acc is falling off a bit, just starting w5. is that normal?

[bleak gazelle]

what are current levels of both an what's your DR?

[bleak gazelle]

yesish? accuracry requirements go up, you need to keep up your skilling (and other things) to keep up 🙃

[novel mural]

dr is 29.52, detector is 5, faux is currently 0

[bleak gazelle]

yeah that should be fine to swap over for now

[novel mural]

aight, thanks

[bleak gazelle]

don't forget to max out talent levels again when you can

[novel mural]

yeah doing that when I see 1-2 full checkouts

[bleak gazelle]

no the equinox node

i kept pumping DR because I forgot about it for a bit

[novel mural]

oh that one, dont have the talent level one yet

[prime wasp]

is it even that good

[novel mural]

I gotta hop on my db when I feel less burnt out for dungeon clouds

[echo crag]

[waxen fern]

holy shit, yall werent kidding about altar jail!! 157 for the next 10% chance 😭

[novel mural]

jail times are good times

[echo crag]

remember that div jail make your skil llvl up which affect minor link bonuses

[waxen fern]

i think i have 7 character in there....guess theyre not moving for a couple days/weeks

[gilded sedge]

Ur lucky then cuz alchemy is perma jail

[novel mural]

damn right

[humble bolt]

is sigil jail worth it early on? i think i'd rather be leveling bubbles

[gilded sedge]

U think correctly

[novel mural]

do you have sov arti + summoning bonuses?

[cyan hatch]

I CAN SEE THE LIGHT

2 rounds to go

[lethal stump]

should i go for left or ri ght

[sturdy shell]

left

[waxen fern]

jfc thats a lot lol

i thought 150 was bad

[peak verge]

How lucky are you feeling?

[novel mural]

imagine unlocking all gods and starting the god rank grind

[cyan hatch]

god rank?

[novel mural]

[peak verge]

He lacks critical information.

[novel mural]

that he does

[cyan hatch]

lmfao f that

[novel mural]

my 5% popped a few minutes ago for god rank 2

[echo crag]

did get a lucky 1-5% proc to reach rank 6 tho

[novel mural]

bless those offerings

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/chillin-dancing-gif-18981385

[wild onyx]

I finally got around to not ignoring hole and I want to go back to before

[bleak needle]

does polythesim of ES do anything with doot?

[bleak gazelle]

more div points

[humble bolt]

proof with persistance, dedication, commitment, planning, discipline, anything is possible

(i buy a pickle everyday for the past 17 days)

[vast badge]

-# you need 99

[humble bolt]

i understand that

[bleak gazelle]

when 2 pickles/day

[real ridge]

is it worth buying starflower cape as f2p? or are gems better spent for other upgrades

[humble bolt]

ill probably forget to buy a pickle and never think about it again

[glad isle]

pickle grind?

[humble bolt]

maybe i should set a pickle alarm, and a pickle google event

[bleak gazelle]

if you don't have any capes, it's one of the best non-bundle ones

[wild onyx]

Any thoughts now that I’ve hit w6 on where my prios should be? Focus on hole, equinox? go for mman, level people up?

for reference… I’m still two gods away from goat :/

[echo crag]

rng be like that sometimes

[bleak gazelle]

if you don't have maestro yet, I'd work on that first

[wild onyx]

I’m a little worried about the skull requirements, currently my kph is something like 90k at green mushrooms on my dk. Could candy ES levels but I don’t anticipate more than 1-200k

and that’s on the easiest

[analog patrol]

Star Signs can Reset ?

[wild onyx]

double tap them

[bleak gazelle]

oh, that's vman reqs, not maestro
still probably good to work on that
BB can be used for a lot since you want to at least get your zows/chows done
ES is useful to active (or afk) to help start some greenstacks too

at your level anything is probably good. leave most of your family in hole or div and take 1-2 out for other things probably

archers or jman should have better DR for bosses

[wild onyx]

Perhaps I can let DK rest a bit and do some farming with es and bb then… BB has been jailed post w3 so he has no chows or zows or wows or anything and I believe he’s good at afk farming?

[zinc peak]

Starting gaming question: is it more efficient to pick the plants asap, or let them go a few cycles to see if they mutate?

I don't know that I really understand how this works

[real ridge]

I think you just pick it up when you can
early on mutations take a very long time, and it is only a chance to mutate

you will want to "log" as many mutations as possible(they increase gaming bits), but you can get those when you go offline for a long time

[cyan hatch]

5 and a half hours later

I'm freeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[novel arrow]

I just entered w6....every other aspect of the game is a mess.

I think my BB should do his zow and chow.

Do I need to focus on super chow?

[neat siren]

game be so fr rn

[echo crag]

get zow and chow done first and see after that how fast you can get schow done

[novel arrow]

Ok

[echo crag]

doing that will boost your deathnote making it easier too

[keen trellis]

Iirc the old guideline was Zow in an hour chow in like 12 hours or something

[solar drift]

you can just check scoli for that

super chow should be 100m iirc

[severe cloak]

Bruh i finally got 75 lucky l ads but i dont have enough bags sigh rip

maybe scoli will tell me where to get bags

[cyan hatch]

What am I doing wrong with this? why isn't my score going up?

[near summit]

Collect coin

Coin = score

[solar drift]

and whats the mission even

[cyan hatch]

75 flag score

[near summit]

U lose coin because respawn = u lose score

[cyan hatch]

wdym respawn = lose score?

idk what I did, but I was more than strong enough this time around

[solar drift]

how got that small wif of w6 spike

[near summit]

Since the score is number of stored coins that arent being used because map is full (each coin respawns a monster 1 time)

[cyan hatch]

ahhhh

That is incredibly unclear ngl

[near summit]

Basicaly kill fast and alot and get lucky

[cyan hatch]

Yup. I did a lot of upgrading since last time I tried this so I'm happy it was smooth sailing this time around

I think I almost have the nullo salts for my first troll set

[glad isle]

salts are a pain

[cyan hatch]

Just need to cook some more starfire bars

[glad isle]

wait starfire

oh i see

[solar drift]

skip helm

[cyan hatch]

why?

[solar drift]

2800+1600+750= 5150 for 3 piece

[cyan hatch]

I can just candy the twine with my es

no biggy

[solar drift]

4000 for 1 piece

[cyan hatch]

So what do I use for the head slot?

[solar drift]

w.e. you have right now lul

[cyan hatch]

dementia

[solar drift]

ye good enough

[cyan hatch]

[keen trellis]

Get troll

[glad isle]

no salts 😭

[solar drift]

ye thats why skip helmet

[glad isle]

i see

[solar drift]

is only 10% drop chance

[glad isle]

i keep chiz for now then

[keen trellis]

I think I have enough salts to make the other 6 sets of troll I need 🤔

[solar drift]

since after getting troll gear you can most likely already craft divine

[cyan hatch]

back to pushing rift

[glad isle]

mats will take a while

[cyan hatch]

I wanna see how much I can do

[glad isle]

sigh

[cyan hatch]

I have the 1m before that

[keen trellis]

I left all my guys in rift for 300 days hoping more stages would come out and it was wasted

[cyan hatch]

Literally twice in 5 levels

That's fucking mean man

[keen trellis]

It gets worse

[solar drift]

i heard you were pretty strong

[cyan hatch]

that's a kps

[glad isle]

i see what u did there

[cyan hatch]

if i put some characters into it I can get it done in like 2-3 hours probably?

[solar drift]

nice i was farming dragon statue on wrong skill card zzz

[rose roost]

Imagine if this worked

[solar drift]

it would be still slower than just faarming with es xd

[craggy obsidian]

Using nutto, whale, glubin, looter shielder and rattler. Wanna kill off the first three to reduce lag, any tips on how to do it? I either stay alive too long that the shield stacks are so high and i never die or i die too early without enuf stacks

[bleak shore]

bravery the hole: do i just get village xp and bucket fill as much as possibe? (obv take opals if there)

i have all 10 found so idk what i need village xp for anymore

[craggy obsidian]

Upcoming caverns

[bleak shore]

is there a timeframe on when that will be bc i didnt know there would be more

[cyan hatch]

[craggy obsidian]

Pretty sure its next update

[solar drift]

#💖future-content-blog

[craggy obsidian]

Lava is giving so many hints on them

[cyan hatch]

11-15 hole 100%

Master classes never

[wild onyx]

I also was sad to see the w6 upgrade tokens are like maplestory scrolls

[solar drift]

w2 first map

he probably have no clue because only w1/2/3 crystal drop obols