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[scarlet echo]

it boosts dmg for mr espio but nothing much

[velvet rapids]

idleoninsight.com

try to search how to get more divinity

[scarlet echo]

okay

[north apex]

but but its so low...

[scarlet echo]

thanks for the recommendation and help

[scarlet echo]

its a multiplier so i guess not that bad

[north apex]

oh, thats multi?

[velvet rapids]

or AFK for 3 years

[north apex]

didnt know that

[scarlet echo]

AFK for 4 years and deal

[scarlet echo]

i would guess so just cuz it says multiplication, but u can never be too sure

[old drift]

@teal lynx is there a "done/skip" button on autoreview? i mean i can update IT every 4 hours and i did something already i would like to make it gone so i know it's done 😂

[dry sparrow]

Hey guys, any tips on how to improve my bar farming on the forge? Im kinda stuck on starfire not even started farming dreadlo yet

[peak verge]

!review

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[old drift]

It wasn't completed when i refreshed my toolbox and it gets the info from there

For example increase P2W cauldron ... i did now and it's still there or turn on my green salt

[peak verge]

You need to improve your forge capacity.

[dry sparrow]

My forge is all maxed out and Im using magma barrel full time

[teal lynx]

You can use the raw data of IE (or IT? Not sure if Scoli takes that) to have an instantly updated profile

[old drift]

I thought thats getting updated on IT too when i update my profile

[north apex]

Do you have the godshard ore card?

also the new update "The Hole" can improve your forge capacity by many times

[peak verge]

@dry sparrow These until you can get the hole upgrades.

[teal lynx]

So you click "Raw Data" > "Copy Raw JSON" > And then copy paste that where you usually type in your name. This way you can kinda ' skip ' the 4 hour wait time between uploads
You can try with IT, but not sure if that also works. Data > IdleonToolbox JSOn > Copy that where your name usually is

[old drift]

IT worked thank you, i just dunno how often IT refreshes my data, i mean every second or 10 mins or hourly xd

[peak verge]

Probably takes a second to update. IE/IT have been slow every here and there over the past week or so and that makes it slower to update on the autoreview.

[teal lynx]

Public uploads can take up to 30 minutes 😅 (At least I never heard of anything above that)

[dry sparrow]

Not sure, let me check

[stable temple]

Is there any penalty if you take forever to kill the mushroom cavern boss?

[dry sparrow]

Can you send me that link so I can check how can I get those upgrades?

[peak verge]

It... it says right there.

[solar seal]

autoreview only pulls public IE not public IT. you can use JSON from either

[pastel kayak]

Never that quick for me takes a hour min

[dry sparrow]

I know, but like the cosmo one I have no idea what is it haha

[peak verge]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Forging

[paper sail]

Not for lack of trying though Morojo / Toolbox doesn't have a public JSON endpoint or I happily would look there too

[solar seal]

[dry sparrow]

Is there any guide or tips and tricks for the hole? Like who should I invest my opals first, etc..

[solar seal]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700

[pastel kayak]

@teal lynx working on fishing right now

[craggy obsidian]

guys my fren is doing 32 million per normal hit but he cant seem to kill the moles

the hp of the moles doesnt go down by much even tho his normal attacks do 32 mil

[solar seal]

considering the moles have 900M HP, that would make sense.
our recommendation in 📌 for an ES to ahve 30M dmg for kruk is the max damage shown on the character window - not white hits

[craggy obsidian]

his stat sheet max is 32m as max dmg

[snow kite]

upgrade active skills like lightning barrage and radiant chainbolt

[solar seal]

then its likely a problem that the spec is not optimized. https://i.imgur.com/XuiAidw.png

[craggy obsidian]

what about for dk

[solar seal]

https://i.imgur.com/o9Kt2Xu.png

[craggy obsidian]

his dk has precisely enuf dmg

he is using that

cant kill the moles

[solar seal]

if you can get a SS of their tab 4 talents - will need to see if they've properly utilized talent library

simply "maxing" a base lvl 100 talent is insufficient

[craggy obsidian]

is there anything about the boss fight we need to know about the moles

like some shield perhaps

[solar seal]

?

there's literally nothing else

kill moles or he heals

either that i need a SS that his character sheet is actually 30M+

[craggy obsidian]

lemme get him on

@vocal light

[vocal light]

A few improvements can definitely be made

[vocal light]

Is it minimum dmg 30m or maximum dmg 30m

[elfin cypress]

Maybe start using library checkouts and increase max skill levels

[solar seal]

its always max dmg. min dmg is a useless stat that is simply max * mastery

[vocal light]

Oh shi

[solar seal]

delgado

[vocal light]

Wha

[peak verge]

Was it not "as close to possible to 30M damage lower margin for kruk"?

[solar seal]

max character sheet* dmg

[peak verge]

since you can technically go in with 10M-30M but it's gonna take a minute

sheet dmg, ye

🤔

[solar seal]

your tab4 talents are lacking. statue (talent 1) and chance on auto (talent 5) should be maxed

[vocal light]

Alr

Somehow I don't think that'll be enough tho

[solar seal]

whenever people ask min or max, delgado - its always referencing char sheet. i would never say our recommendation is "min 30M" cause that creates confusion.

[vocal light]

Is using library on just a few skills rly gonna get me to the dmg threshold for the kruk

[solar seal]

yes and no

[junior dune]

Quite possibly yes

[solar seal]

the diff between a 100 skill vs. 140-150 talent maxed skill is easily 50-100% more dmg for taht skill

[vocal light]

Alr I'll try it out

[solar seal]

esp for something like statue- which will be one of your primary ways in killing moles

[graceful fern]

Is there any strat to doing like the specific td challenge in the achivement page?

[peak verge]

If there's something I learned recently, the amount of damage you can get out of this talent is borderline obscene, especially when your gear shapes up and you have W6 stones.

[vocal light]

Already maxed

[solar seal]

you'll need to specify which challenge. there are many of them

[celest carbon]

Are we getting update today?

[graceful fern]

The w5 one

[solar seal]

if lava keeps on sschedule, then likely yes

[solar seal]

that one is a bit touchy. make sure you don't even select kraken in the placement window as it can cause the achievement to fail.

[graceful fern]

So is it like doing regular td in like the sheet strat but just dont do kraken?

[solar seal]

have to brute force w/ strong towers only - or have enough hearts to cover leaks

[graceful fern]

At what tower lvl should I even be doing this?

[solar seal]

wave 50 is a few minutes at most. just try it, its easier than you might think

[vocal light]

Aha I think I figured it out, I had the Midas prayer equipped so I dealt no dmg to moles

[graceful fern]

So basically all of these td challenges are just doing enough dmg challenges?

[solar seal]

pretty much

[simple wadi]

... Is there a tower defense game that isn't?

[graceful fern]

Well all of td game is basically like that. But some td game have specific challenges that requires strategy, probably because its 3d td.

[solar seal]

i mean idleon TD aint that sophisticated

[simple wadi]

You're expecting a lot out of a free game's small internal minigame

[solar seal]

only one that might be is deepest TD1 wave w/ only 1 tower each - which does require some strategy if you want a higher tome score

otherwise, if your towers are strong enough, just brute force it and faceroll the achievement

[dry sparrow]

I just returned from a long time away from this game and Im kinda lost on what to do, anyone to guide me on what should I do? https://teteuzz.idleonefficiency.com/

Im early w6 but it feels Im waaaay behind it, should I focus more on earlier maps? Theres too much to do and Im really lost lol

I havent started forging w5 anvil yet

Long time without mining, probably gonna work on my mining cuz Im good need Dreadlo bars and I have 0 atm

[graceful fern]

Im not really expecting that much about the td itself. But the achivement challenges itself could be better, but i also like these type of achivement because its a nice bit gain.

[solar seal]

!review - will be your best way forward. just start at your lowest tier and work up

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[dry sparrow]

!review

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[simple wadi]

#player-suggestions Go make Idleon the standard for tower defenses across the internet.

I believe in you.

[dry sparrow]

Is there any link for the best gear/cards/etc for printing mining?

Im gonna print again my mining since a long time and dont wanna miss anything

[north apex]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YkCE1KdcXPoF3hxFUjC0EtEUTkpuBmYcAtGodkuNOJ4/edit?gid=1826222324#gid=1826222324

i use this one

[dry sparrow]

Thanks!

[fickle lake]

oh cool lava

[teal lynx]

Why is only lava blured

[north apex]

its the weekly update, lava changed his character

[languid mist]

I found a moai head artifact. Am I understanding correctly that it works like the Shrine World Tour lab node?

[echo crag]

moai allow the effect in all word, but still need to be in same world/map to gain exp, so still need the lab node

so you still want to keep the shrine in the town where most of your characters are

[languid mist]

But as long as I have it in a given w5 area (let's say all my chars are in w5), every single char that's currently in w5 but not necessarily in the area will benefit from the bonus?

[echo crag]

they will get the benefit everywhere, but in order to give them exp it need to be in w5 town with lab node on, or in the same map if not in town

[languid mist]

Right, thank you. I don't much care for the exp right now but I do want the bonuses for the time being.

[echo crag]

exp is important considering how long it take for them to level

[languid mist]

That's true but I've got bigger fish to fry, so to speak. I'm currently doing a massive backtrack and that partially envolves having 2 characters in w5 grinding the cash I need and the rest catching up in w4. Shrine exp will be more of a priority once they can all be in w5

[echo crag]

in that case shrines should be in w4 town

[languid mist]

Lemme see if my DK doesn't miss out on too much by doing that 🧐

[echo crag]

you got moai, so benefit are in every map now

[languid mist]

My DK is in W5. The rest are in W4. If I put the shrines in w4 town then my DK wouldn't benefit from them, right?

[peak verge]

https://imgur.com/a/IHSZG37

[languid mist]

oh lol 🤦 it was that obvious and it still completely flew past me

thank you, my bad

[peak verge]

Check pinned messages. Plenty of useful stuff.

[languid mist]

ye mb, i should've checked there first

[humble finch]

Welp, wasted about a day trying to get sovereign dreamcatcher, only to find out it does not boost my max loot pile chests from 18 to 20. Checked the bug reports and yes, it has been reported sadly... Back in May... oof...

[peak verge]

Yeah, it is unfortunate.

I think you need all achievements to reach 20 slots.

[coarse basin]

can anyone tell me if i should be pushing to kill kattlekruk or just focus on my account

[peak verge]

What's your dmg sheet?

[coarse basin]

5M max

[peak verge]

You need 30 for the boss.

[coarse basin]

on fire spirits

on BB

[peak verge]

[coarse basin]

what happened

[peak verge]

BB is... to put it gently... gonna struggle quite a bit.

[coarse basin]

how can i kill boss with BB

[echo crag]

double if not triple your dmg

or just push with dk/es

[peak verge]

I think you're better off pushing with dk/es. The w5 boss is a dps check since it heals. Either you have enough damage and he doesn't get to heal, or you have enough AoE to prevent the healers from reaching him. BB has neither.

[coarse basin]

can u tell me best way to do method 1

[echo crag]

get to about 5b dmg so you can kill it before healing mob reach it

[coarse basin]

https://buff_warrior1.idleonefficiency.com

[dry sparrow]

Is there any point in mining these days apart from mining lvl? since I can print everything

[coarse basin]

but it is slow on my DK than on my BB

[echo crag]

getting to lvl120 is about it, maybe more lvl for hole measure buffs

[peak verge]

Do you have vman?

[coarse basin]

I am getting 14.9k kills/hr

[dry sparrow]

I do

[peak verge]

Well your goal is to have everyone able to equip GS tools and thus get higher prints.

[echo crag]

are you pushing dk offline ?

[coarse basin]

yes

[echo crag]

that why, dk will get a lot more kill active because of rez

[coarse basin]

no its my BB offline

on fire spirit

[dry sparrow]

I just returned playing from a long time away, so Im kinda lost, but my maestro is really early game, havent focused on him much

[peak verge]

You said you have Vman.

[dry sparrow]

Theres too much to do so I just left him sitting pushing maps and thats it lol

I dont remember how its called, its the last one lol

[peak verge]

This one, yes?

[echo crag]

if you dont have doot, start working on the hole in w5 to get the additional 2 god link, this will helps you a lot

[dry sparrow]

yes

[wheat berry]

For the bell in cavern, when is best time to do the reset thing? I got this, so does that mean I should/can reset it now?

[peak verge]

Is he lvl 100 in all printing skills?

[dry sparrow]

definetely not haha

[echo crag]

you good to reset, may RNG be on your side with the lvl spread

[peak verge]

Yes, if you got that upgrade and the one before it, it's safe to do your first renew.

[dry sparrow]

As I said I was a bit lazy to play on him so I just left him pushing maps, havent tried to level his skills yet

[peak verge]

Vman never has to push maps since he can just teleport. He should always be skilling.

[dry sparrow]

I mean, normally he was on the best map he can survive getting xp and drops thats about it, I will try to put him on skilling but theres too much to do, so Im doing bit by bit atm Im working on my mining DK printing some ores and thinking what should I do next lol

[peak verge]

Vman needs to be the first in skilling in order to be able to buff the other characters. Ignore skilling on everyone else for now.

[echo crag]

if your stamp and alchy arent too far behind, it might not be all that hard for vman to catch up

[dry sparrow]

https://teteuzz.idleonefficiency.com/

Thats how it is so far if you wanna have a look

[peak verge]

You want "ranked 1st" on all of these.

[dry sparrow]

Fair enough, not that bad then

Gonna craft some skilling gear for him then

[peak verge]

That should be main priority on Vman right now. Then level all of them to 100.

The other chars should just print whatever you need.

[echo crag]

have you started with The hole ?

[flint flint]

level 32 mining

[dry sparrow]

Started today on it

on cavern 3 atm

[echo crag]

okay that will help you a lot since you will be able to get 2 extra god link once you have the pts for it

[dry sparrow]

Should I keep investing opals on my explorer for now?

he is lvl 3

havent used any on engineer yet

[peak verge]

you should have at least 1 opal in everyone, otherwise they get 0 xp

[dry sparrow]

fair enough, gonna work on that vman then

is that mining cave on the hole good for xp?

[echo crag]

can check if you get more exp on that compared to highest node your vman got acces too

[mighty rover]

Finally got enough keys I just need to work on powers

[dry sparrow]

I have the keys but not the power lol

[teal lynx]

I have the keys and the power

[echo crag]

https://tenor.com/view/itty-bitty-living-s-pace-alladin-cartoons-genie-gif-8518424

[velvet thistle]

Any advice for worshipping

[peak verge]

Never use energy siphon.

[velvet thistle]

Not doing that anyways

Anything else?

Exp wise

To get my maestro ahead of the rest

[echo crag]

xp prayer and transfusion, make sure he worship for best exp and not souls

[velvet thistle]

Transfusion is a good idea, ok

I‘ll try it

Thx

[peak verge]

If maestro is behind you can force fix it with candy but otherwise for your next worships try to do most xp on Maestro and least xp on the others.

[echo crag]

worship is also annoying cuz it varies based on your waves. compared to other skill where exp gain is static per node

[dry sparrow]

Is there any way of quick using those silver pens?

[echo crag]

nope

a lot of us stop using them and let atom deal with them once we got a bunch of the good bonus we want

[dry sparrow]

its cuz my boxes are not maxed out yet

[echo crag]

yeah... suffering is the only way to use them fast

doing it on mobile might be less annoying tho

[dry sparrow]

The goal is to max every chest to 400?

[ancient oxide]

some upgrade boxes are 800 and 1 specific is 100000

[echo crag]

you'll eventually get them all yes, but should focus on some of bonnus that can be good on all, then later let the atom burn your pens for you to do the rest

[dry sparrow]

jeez

[silent birch]

You got a pretty face

[dry sparrow]

thanks lol

Jesus I need to focus, theres too much to do

Even tho im playing mostly in like 3-4 chars theres still loads to do

[simple wadi]

You got a pretty mouth.

[dry sparrow]

theres 2 barbarian cooking, few guys in the lab and still Im overwhelmed

[old drift]

Can i use candy during divinity?

[echo crag]

divinity got its own time skip item

[ancient oxide]

has it?

sailing gaming and w6 for sure... but I cant recall a divinity item

[snow kite]

yeah there is no divinity skip

unless golden stopwatch counts

[echo crag]

might have been misremembering, but lava been disabling candy for town related skill after w4, since it usually end up breaking stuff

[ancient oxide]

I mean pearls were atleast a alternative till lvl 50 for w4, but w5 and 6 dont have that option either

[echo crag]

after the initial div jail time to unlock gods, you generally level it up during the lab jail time to unlock the 3 new jewel that require lab 2100

[ancient oxide]

urgh dont remind me that I need to spend another eternity in lab

[late mortar]

Guys. If I have Arctis and Goat but I don't have any char in lab,do I still get the div exp?

And points?

[echo crag]

goat require to be physically in lab to work

[late mortar]

Mhm...thanks.

[echo crag]

you want to reach div 40 to get div exp while doing other stuff

[tardy yew]

so i am not allowed to afk at the eqinox but i can 3d print the resources there

is that wrong?

[dry sparrow]

midas minded is a good prayer for pop obols?

[echo crag]

yeah

[spring yarrow]

Holy shit I just failed 4 gaming logs in a row on the first go

[junior dune]

Not if you are using ES to get them, otherwise yes

[dry sparrow]

Im using ES

[signal dome]

this grind is painfully slow bruh

[fierce cargo]

is there a power of 10 DR somewhere

[signal dome]

whats a power of 10 DR?

[tardy yew]

they are useless
i thought they are good why were you all praising them?

[teal lynx]

Your cooking speed was +1 level and the others +2?
And the blue chest made the +1 a +2

[potent socket]

can I make the monument go faster by putting more characters in front of them

😄

[late marsh]

i have like 800% power in the harp but nothing is happening? what's that about

[fierce cargo]

that's about the fact you didn't swipe the strings

[late marsh]

thanks i was clicking them and nothing happened

[old drift]

Can i boost this somehow? i bought gem shop running around fires and i upgrade bear and snake whenever i can but still

Okay for example 1 thing, i forgot to change style

[faint wigeon]

other mult that’s shown in the tab are other gods or a sailing artifact

[old drift]

but other than that ? xD

Yeah but what can i do to increase it more, i did gem shop, bits and gold and style

[simple wadi]

Divinity is a slow skill to start. It will speed up over time

[fierce cargo]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=divinity

[faint wigeon]

wait

?wiki Divinity

[verbal canyon]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Divinity

[faint wigeon]

there should be a list of all things that can give mult

[old drift]

i should get my wizard elite class

ES gives XP bonus lol

[pale ledge]

how much bonus does it give? im only on day 2 of w5 and im tired of divinity already i wanna play the game lmao

[fierce cargo]

you are playing the game

[pale ledge]

i wanna actively play the game 😢

[old drift]

Same lol
I just got the Bear and with that i can at least put my chars to lab too and have 1-2 characters out

[fierce cargo]

divinity bonuses are massive account wide buffs

[faint wigeon]

if your tired of div jail you won’t see the end of it

[pale ledge]

seeing that 1exp/hr is soul crushing rn tho lol

[faint wigeon]

not really account wide buff but they do provide huge buff for when you unlock them for other stuff

[ocean lily]

haven't really touched hounds in hole since I had 2 amplifiers. Now I've got through the increased mana cost, but did the damage on hounds change or something? I used to run ~40 on the attack increase amp and now ~28 one shots me lol

[faint wigeon]

but yeah kinda as well I guess x)

[ocean lily]

did something change overall?

[faint wigeon]

no idea

[echo crag]

prayers ?

[ocean lily]

omfg thank you. didnt realize i had multikill prayer on

[fierce cargo]

if you're going to argue semantics then go ahead. but gods are account wide once you unlock them.

[faint wigeon]

welp I hope you continue div jail because if yo my stop that’s massive loss of excellent bonus

[ocean lily]

i was losing my mind why i couldnt even hit half my previous score with higher amps

[fierce cargo]

go to lvl 40div, and then forget it till later

it's like 2 weeks

or you can rotate your chars if you really want to "active" something

[pale ledge]

are there catch up mechs for new chars at w5 or is div jail the reason you can catch up other chars?

[fierce cargo]

what are you trying to catch up on

[golden wing]

More like 4 weeks

[fierce cargo]

you only need 1 map pusher. cause when you get to w6m1 you'll gain like 100 levels that first day

then going through w5 with everybody else is fast

[pale ledge]

i wanted to make my es i kinda had everyone except dk in lab for the entire time i was in w4

[fierce cargo]

so do that

es my fav w5 pusher, and makes the boss kill easier

[echo crag]

div is still a jail, will go faster when you get more of the xp bonus for it, but still a jail non the less

[vivid roost]

should i first go for t8 chem plant or go for other t7 plants ?

and what is the startegie for going for t8/t7 plants, just wait long enough, or are there better ways?

[teal lynx]

If you want other T7 / T8 plants your best bet is to do this
Or you never touch them for months and pray

[silver remnant]

How does one defeat or romance Gloomie colonies in the Hole? Or is that not added yet

[teal lynx]

You click the thing in the middle and spawn a boss

You need increasingly more kills to spawn a boss

[silver remnant]

Oh wow, thanks! I didn't even see that was a thing

[bleak shore]

is there a method or like a ratio to what lvl's i should have my letters

[silver remnant]

Once you unlock String G you level up crazy fast

[vivid roost]

would say it doesn't really matter, later on it will be more close due to some of the new tones/letters

[fierce cargo]

xayayahs click accuracy is goated. cal-m headshotclicker

[teal lynx]

That's what too much league of legends does to someone

Every click needed to be precise or else you are dead

[bleak gazelle]

just play a tank in aram

[teal lynx]

I really wanted to open league yesterday, but I stayed strong and did not
Probably nearly 2 years clean now (or more?)

[bleak gazelle]

i bought the pass for the caitlyn skin even though I don't really play much anymore

so been playing some aram to grind that out

[north apex]

aram is the only healthy way to play league of legends

btw @teal lynx, unlocking t7 and t8 plants gives me any bonus?

[teal lynx]

More bits
You can check your log book to see how much you would gain

[north apex]

maybe one day

[vivid roost]

14 sprouds make 107->290 multiplier

[north apex]

i love to see how far i really am from the endgamers

[fierce cargo]

just inject it straight into the vein

shiro is challenger, gotta get him to carry us

cog4 ganggang flex

[teal lynx]

I only got to master

I would probably be able to get to Diamond again with bard

[bleak gazelle]

my korean genes were born for starcraft and not league

i think i got to gold once in league

[fierce cargo]

damn ace, thought you were the next faker

[bleak gazelle]

i'll just be the next slayers_boxer and create a new SKT

[worldly lagoon]

league is one of the most gatekept games in existance, if you aren't a platinum or higher player ur gonna have a bad time, most of the best players don't wanna wait for queue times so they smurf for content so you are playing against pros in your lvl 5 games

[ocean lily]

SBBM kinda disproves this but I get what you mean

even CoD ran the data and did AB testing and proved that player experience is extremely diminished when SBBM is removed. Sure ELO is out of date, but I used to recruit for PvP systems designers and a few other design verticals at ABK and its pretty clear what players think they want and what they actually appreciate are two very different things

[worldly lagoon]

idk man i tried playing it 2 years ago and ran into TFblade on a lvl 7 account playing for the first time in 12 years

[ocean lily]

yeah individual data points and outliers always exist with a big enough data set

its kinda like how "the US economy is booming" but ~most~ people dont see or feel that

[worldly lagoon]

economy seems fine to me <.<

[ocean lily]

yeah see

[fierce cargo]

how do you know it's a bad time if you aren't good enough to know

[ocean lily]

if everyone else you're playing with also isnt good enough to know

[fierce cargo]

i would say emerald>d2 are the worst elos to play in

because players are just good enough to know, but not good enough to know

[ocean lily]

that population is like... 1-2% of the entire playerbase though so the vast majority of folks will never even encounter that experience

might be wrong on populuation, it's been a while since i played comp LoL

[worldly lagoon]

the only people i know who play LoL are people who've been playing for like 5+ years, everyone i meet who "tries" lol has such a terrible time the first time trying to play they quit immediately.

[fierce cargo]

the rankings have changed, plat+ is top ~15%

[worldly lagoon]

people have just been playing so long that even the "bad" players expect u to play at a high level even if ur bad

there is no room to grow because there is no more noobs

[ocean lily]

ah that makes slightly more sense. When i played in the early seasons, even Gold was around top ~15%. that was literally a decade ago though lmfao

[fierce cargo]

yea

[bleak gazelle]

too much knowledge gap to learn especially if you're playing solo or with friends who expect you to be at their level after your first game

[fickle cave]

Where else to get drop chance expect obal, or mail or you pirate dude

[hardy owl]

"A Moderate Discount = 15% cost reduction for next schematic unlock" does this mean the cost of buying it, or it reduces the xp to unlock it? the wordings confusing me

[fierce cargo]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l3RFWq1Zypqkfby1YncOkuY_K4aSist14KUK5dJQ3as/edit?gid=1005058354#gid=1005058354

[bleak gazelle]

We assume cost of buying it, as xp is rarely (if never) referred to as a cost. Reducing XP would also affect 3-4 schematics at once

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle

[bleak gazelle]

yo did you give me your headache today?

[pastel kayak]

Nope I ave one too cause not been sleeping well been too warm at night here

Going to be 35c/95f here today @bleak gazelle

[bleak gazelle]

oof

i ordered this squishmallow today

[pastel kayak]

I have

[bleak gazelle]

it's a good one

[pastel kayak]

Order from the fivebelow site @bleak gazelle

[bleak gazelle]

ooh. i think i have a store close to me actually. maybe i should og check it out

[pastel kayak]

On the fivebelow site still I think @bleak gazelle

[pastel kayak]

None of that store is in Australia

My fave are Dragons and Bigfoots then cows

[hardy owl]

whens updates normally cme out, or its kind of random?

[bleak gazelle]

the past few weeks they've been about an hour ago

but lava posted it's still coming out today so might be doing some last minute tweaking

[hardy owl]

ah cool, thanks for info

[mighty shard]

hi dose everyone know what update is coming? is it the event or whole update??????????????????,,,,,,,,,

[bleak gazelle]

most likely christmas event. not sure when, past few weeks had already been out by this time

[mighty shard]

thanks

[fallow aurora]

still today

he said in #💖future-content-blog

[bleak gazelle]

yes, as i said above

though didn't clarifiy in that second one i guess

[mighty shard]

cant wait to spend some real money so Lava roll it out 🙂

[fallow aurora]

i'm illiterate

[flint flint]

that needs to be made into a sticker

[hardy owl]

hardly reading

[bleak gazelle]

i like mine

[hardy owl]

why do the final relics still suck to get after all the recent buffs?

[bleak gazelle]

collect more chests

i got most of my lanterns before getting some mid-tier ones

[hardy owl]

luccckkkky

[bleak gazelle]

do you have your turtle vial maxed out?

[spiral path]

I don't and got all my artifacts long ago

[cyan mantle]

Do you think I can do it?

[bleak gazelle]

i wouldn't

[cyan mantle]

So don't

[spiral path]

Nope, don't risk it

You probably only have 5 swords and no retelling

[pastel kayak]

Got o school,bad old man @cyan mantle

[cyan mantle]

So beautiful

[cyan mantle]

I ain't old

[fallow aurora]

go to school young man

[vagrant plover]

is there a best way to get 100k crops other than just leaving them one at a time? i saw someone say something about how many 16x overgrowth plots does it take idk.

[pastel kayak]

Evil @bleak gazelle sent you a message

[terse verge]

If you are still working on farming and are at a point where 100k arent easy to stack - its helpful to do it in steps. Aka stack maybe 2-3 seeds up to 1k to get speed gmo going - then 10k to get value - then can go for the 100k. After a bean turn in, it may not be the best for you to immediately try for 100k until much later

[vagrant plover]

I left it while I went to work and I got to 200k with like a 5min 30 sec grow speed I don’t know if that’s expected in mid farming or not

[weak carbon]

Just got to kattlekruk but not enough dmg; any ways to boost it semi fast? https://nyanprox.idleonefficiency.com

[vagrant plover]

Book talents

[weak carbon]

damage ones maxed

unless there are some awesome special?

[vagrant plover]

What class are you on

[weak carbon]

DK

[vagrant plover]

Book the stuff that gives main stat

[north apex]

i can help you, which server?

a archer or the another dude?

k, dont worry

just mention me whenever hes ready

[signal dome]

someone calculate the rate bruh

[hardy owl]

at least 6.67/min

[signal dome]

i just did its 6.67/min

by this logic it will take me 1.25 days to get 20k

1.25 days of active farming

what the actual fuck?

[bleak gazelle]

that's actually pretty fast

most people starting do 3-4 days i think

which...given how long you can be active, could be the same rate as you

[teal lynx]

Just improve your dr to lower that time
(I have no idea of your situation)

[hardy owl]

oh, the update just didnt come out!

[turbid plaza]

It’s been 5 more minutes, and it still just didn’t come out!

[faint wigeon]

my DK stacking them in his inv for 2 weeks because I haven't played him since, might continue ||(or not)||

[teal lynx]

And now? (This is regarding the update not your statue grind. Very unlucky timing )

[faint wigeon]

idleon player when reading or waiting

[faint wigeon]

yeah realized x)

[teal lynx]

-# this was a joke

[faint wigeon]

just another 5 min
if its not in the next 5 min, repeat

[turbid plaza]

My characters have 4 different jails😭 breaking skydoggies lock, have to afk at the 2 monuments, and 2100 lab

[hardy owl]

not sure if it helps, but i think you used to be able to get one count for free by doing a speedrun after someone had unlocked it

also monuments fall off pretty quick in terms of being worth idling, so i wouldnt worry too much , just get some of the low hour bonuses for now

[turbid plaza]

Huh so that’s why I suddenly skipped leeks and ceramic on vman

[turbid plaza]

Hmm alright, I’ll prob finish lock, get justice to 2.5k hours, get 1400 lab, then decide from there

[hardy owl]

yeah, lava couldnt be bothered making a list of portals you had unlocked, so it just copies whichever character is furthest after the run

fun fact you also lose the vman deathnote kills and get a set number instead

[turbid plaza]

Lava coding at its finest

[hardy owl]

to be fair to him, he does seem to be writting less buggy code these days, but i guess is still stuck with the legacy stuff he wrote

[north apex]

thank you chat gpt and github copilot

[hardy owl]

you ok dude?

[north apex]

just joking about lava code man

[hardy owl]

ah lol

[proven parrot]

isnt 4 warriors just better than 3 archers

[errant pond]

No

[faint wigeon]

if in your 4 warrior you intend to have 2 barbarian it’s way worse

[solar seal]

With W6 release, the meta shifted considerably away from 4 warriors due to:
a) NMLB becoming a thing making 2 BB much less useful
b) Godshard Bar requirement for crafting making 3 archers way more useful.

Subsequently, with Hole release - there is another slight shift where:
a) 3 archers lost a little of their strength due to massive increase in forge capacity for bar production
b) 2nd ES lost priority due to Pocket Divinity making the 3 mage setup shaky between 2 bubo and 2 ES.

This can all change at the drop of a dime with Master classes just around the corner.

[hardy owl]

balanced classes best classes

[teal lynx]

So what I'm reading is I should do 2 archers, 2 mages, 1 vman, 5 warriors

[crimson thistle]

4 dk meta

[hardy owl]

10 vman, think of the 3d printing

[drowsy acorn]

is there a way to make mutation plants more common, i recently just unlocked chem plants today (off a 0.4% thank you RNJesus), but ive only seen them like twice

[faint wigeon]

DK?! NO BB META RISE UP

[hardy owl]

if you wanted to brick your save as much as possible, what would the build be? 10 BB?

[terse verge]

10 vman. Unlock all portals on 1 vman. Then speedrun on that vman and lose all portal progress for your entire account for all worlds

[hardy owl]

lol! that is brilliantly terrible

[stuck river]

Did the update drop

[faint wigeon]

Soon™️

[solar seal]

[faint wigeon]

lmao ping from lava just came what a timing

[pastel kayak]

I have 3 dk

[stuck river]

Meh

Oh shit stream

I'm downloading twitch hol up

Lmao

[silent prawn]

does buying this only affect unlocked islands

or all islands?

[prime bough]

Has anyones Justice Monument multi just bug and lower

[teal lynx]

Lavas drops reset your justice monument cooldown. That means if you were above 1.3x you lost some mult

[crimson thistle]

the new special talent drop is broken

[zealous willow]

I like how Timo Lotad has become the new example for Lava to use in gem contests

[crimson thistle]

too many books

[solar seal]

I generally don't comment re: gem shop purchases, but do not purchase this. it will only be for unlocked islands but you are essentially throwing your gems away

[pastel kayak]

Is new update out on stream yet?

[echo crag]

did lava simply reset the limited shop ?

[peak verge]

yes

[echo crag]

damn, jsut saw the event shop

[hardy owl]

are the giftmas bonuses permanent? they seem big

[echo crag]

they are

[hardy owl]

niiicee

[marble lotus]

what stats are needed to do this efficiently? just 100% on godshard?

[clear linden]

There is someone fishing in the Camp on the Hole. Any ideas how they're doing that?

[graceful current]

does anyone know the keyboard shortcut to drop items from inventory to floor

[clear linden]

Shift

[graceful current]

ive tried that, is there a setting i need to enable?

[clear linden]

Nope, you just hold it down and you'll get a notification above your inventory that says quick drop is enabled

[solar seal]

unless their stats are wildly off, game can have visual desyncs

[solar seal]

you may need to double tab and hold shift, whati have to do

[humble finch]

Ditto. Once the red text shows up above the inventory screen, you know you're in it.

[reef shadow]

I had a 3.7 justice multi and i swaped to other characters to get the justice afk time and when i went to play it had reset to 1.3x multi anyone know what that's about?

[solar seal]

I think you are misunderstand what it is saying. The quest to loot 100k statues only counts those statues you gather after starting the quest - nothing before that. If you want to power through and finish the quest immediately, it is saying you can use godshard ore as a way to do that. Or you can just gather statues normally. You don't need to use godshare ore

[humble finch]

Also, just want to point out, pretty sure sailing is set to unending loot search for everyone who happens to have not F'ed up their account by having a siege breaker. His talent is (highly likely) applied to the new adjustment for the minimum LV bonus mentioned in the patch notes. (Again, not confirmed, but the bug seems to be caused by that. It seems only logical for that to be the reason.)

[humble finch]

Lava gem drops do that unfortunately. It's stated in one of the announcements by him...

[reef shadow]

Ah shoot x_x yeah i did go to stream

[solar seal]

Yeah he tied gem drops to justice run attempts - he seems to have forgotten that and it is still linked together

[humble finch]

#💖future-content-blog message

Yeah, it says 'this stream only'... Probably just a one-man-developer mishap ...

[reef shadow]

That's what i get for logging in and falling for the in game DEV IS STREAMING button without looking at the discord first

[marble lotus]

I get that, I just want to know which stats matter for getting as many statues from mining as possible

[humble finch]

I think it's when he just drops gems, not the attendance of the stream.

[reef shadow]

I guess ill accept the 400 or so gems i snagged as payment for the missed justice time

[humble finch]

Sounds like amazing compensation!

[marble lotus]

I didn't get gems

I was waiting in a server that already got them

[solar seal]

all you need is 100% efficiency and has high speed as possible. for mining/chopping, this is capped at 62/min

[heady plover]

When does it make sense to start encouraging the little guy? Besides when I feel like there is too much risk. Because I am very unlucky.

[turbid plaza]

Is anyone else encountering a problem where unending loot is activated in sailing. None of the 4 presets have points in it, and sailing was working fine before the update

[sick sentinel]

Refresh map/cloudsave?

[turbid plaza]

I’ll give it a shot the next time I claim

[hot solar]

rizz

[kindred moss]

Did you ever figure it out? They're only missing on my BM. It's just bizzare.

[solar seal]

its just a graphic error. if you click on the boxes, you'll see they still exist

[rocky mountain]

[craggy obsidian]

Christmas event:0?

[spring jasper]

since the update, do ships no longer wait in the harbour? i don't have the thing skilled but it ain't doing it

[upper flax]

how much dmg I need to kill w5 boss?

[turbid plaza]

Yeah didn’t work

[turbid plaza]

Happening to me too

[spring jasper]

damn lets hope it's a bug

[turbid plaza]

It’s definitely not Intentional

[solar seal]

twice is now not a coincidence

[bitter echo]

Another brutal bug it seems. None of my characters are connected in lab, even though all 8 of them are linked to arctis

[spring jasper]

damn now that is truly bad

[solar seal]

can you provide SS of your unlink UI screen and your lab mainframe?

[vernal relic]

i got that too i was asking if anyone has experience it

[bitter echo]

Is the third on the unlink ui you mean?

To make my day worse i just got the card dude achievement and accidentally walked through portal right as i signed in, -24 gems feelsbad

[vernal relic]

on 2nd thought the bug was pirnter not the connection

[vernal relic]

have you tried moving the first chars closer to the left?

[solar seal]

can you move the first char closer to the prism

[bitter echo]

oh im dumb lmao

whyd my range drop though, they were connected before

[vernal relic]

that might be the cause of bubo skill when you swtch

[bitter echo]

Ah, i moved my bubo to combat, situation solved XD

[solar seal]

check your bubo talents

k glad we solved it

if lab broke, there'd be much more outrage across discord. so i was a little sus

[bitter echo]

thanks for solving my stupidity XD

yeah same, i was searching if there was any bug reports, it was just my tired brain

[solar seal]

happens to best of us

[bitter echo]

i probably shouldnt but its too much value im gonna dump points into that linking talent in my combat preset

[solar seal]

as a note, for future use, usually bubo is best kept on far right to make use of skill xp+ w/ vman enhancement. i'm guessing you haven't unlocked that much yet so you aren't utilizing it

it'll help also prevent random disconnects like this

[proven parrot]

That was bouta be my exact response

[bitter echo]

Im not at vman yet sadly, got to deathnote all the w1-3s and do 12m greens on the maestro

[solar seal]

just something to keep in mind for future

[bitter echo]

given were now on xmas event, perfect time to be doin active killing, and yeah will do

not sure how long its gonna take to get the 12m kills though... bit of a nasty amount

[fickle lake]

who wanna bet the ios update will be delayed for 3 days again

[proven parrot]

1mil on every w1-w3 mob gonna take longer

[fallow aurora]

u can do that on all chars

[bitter echo]

ive been active ESing it at the moment and got nobi recently fortunately, thank god for pocket divinity so i can nobi + lab for 4x

[solar seal]

the 12M kills on maestro is a good candidate to try to gamble a few cosmic candies if you have any

[bitter echo]

im a filthy candy hoarder and a patient gamer XD (6 cosmics on next tab too)

[solar seal]

we've got the whole spectrum of candy addicts and candy hoarders who frequent w5 chat 🙂

[bitter echo]

my dumb gambling ass is like "surely i can get lucky on master of nothing when i get that island"

[spring jasper]

i'am a bad hoarder, i used a couple thousand candies lately

[bitter echo]

i took a 3 year break from the game so ive got a loooot of catching up to do on the candy hoarding

So many things to work on now im early w5 too... Card pack got me chaotic troll so suddenly got a 40% skill efficiency increase and i havent sampled in a while so i really should resample, but i hate resampling. On top of that i need tool upgrades, never have materials for bubbles, levels for characters to get 9th character... so much to do

[upper flax]

should I up lab before I'll open a bear to use it, or focus on gods to unlock goat and then focus on lab? I'm anyway stuck with dmg for the boss 5, so it's time to up other things

[solar seal]

the general recommendation is get to goat, then you can double up on lab/div until 75 lab (full chip slots) and 40 div (tranqi unlock) for all your characters. you shouldn't require this to beat kruk - but most end up getting goat unlocked just before kruk or shortly thereafter

[bitter echo]

would yall suggest getting 10th character before unlocking goat? cus 1100 to 1500 means ill need to get em all to 160+ and of course, lab/div jail doesnt get you any class levels

[faint wigeon]

if you can get to kruk and beat him before both and get to w6, go farm xp there, you’ll see that a few days of afk and your char should be lvl 300 ish

[bitter echo]

looking at kattlekruk having 100b health i dont think im going to be at that anytime soon

For reference, my ES being my strongest character at the moment, the damage only just hit this threshold today

(though thats without the tenacity rings ive got them on someone else at the moment)

[faint wigeon]

recommended dmg for es is 30M, tho some did with less

[bitter echo]

huh so given im only at map 2 of w5 i may not be as far behind as i thought for kruk

[faint wigeon]

if you don’t have chiz helmet and body as well it’ll boost your dmg greatly

[bitter echo]

i do not, i wanted to maximise my droprate through w5 before going for those

now ive got nobi i should push all my characters to w3 last map for keys

[faint wigeon]

damn

[faint wigeon]

chiz helmet and body is kinda ez, scarf on the other hand you gotta get lucky

[bitter echo]

yeah the scarf rate is brutal, i can definitely make the helmet now, didnt realise i was at that. I should really reprint to start working on equinox greenstacks too

ive got 3 greenstacks and had a major efficiency jump so can probably start greenstacking more of the lower resources

[faint wigeon]

early log/ore and maybe the first few fish/bug are ez gstack

[bitter echo]

yeah it was the first 3 logs that are my first greenstacks, and with hole buffing mining and getting lucky getting chaotic troll from the 1 gem card pack, on top of steadily upping bubbles, and possible tool upgrades (idk how long itll take to get 20 pearler shells) i can jump my effiency quite a lot right now

i just really really hate resampling

ive only got one particularly good afk keychain so i have to swap it between everyone for the resampling

oh wow looking at droprate, for farming scarf its better to just grind normal difficulty chizoar

[faint wigeon]

who doesn’t

[faint wigeon]

you farming for them starfire tools already?

[bitter echo]

yeah ive had printer going for the materials so only thing im lacking is the rare drop items

[faint wigeon]

stop at lustre maybe for a first

so you can keep your pearler for troll armor

[bitter echo]

isnt troll armour crazy high amount of nullo salts?

i guess its not as bad as it sounds given nullo salts arent used for any other salts

[faint wigeon]

yeah 9k5 void salts

[bitter echo]

ive only recently started with them, my salt production isnt ideal

im only just neutral on most and a long way off rank ups

negative on blue but ranking that up would make me negative on orange, and im already negative on red

Speaking of resampling, What skills does royal sampler debuff? given some skillsdont get affected by other debuffs, does it affect lab/div/sailing/gaming/breeding etc?

[faint wigeon]

royal sampler is -xp gain

[toxic fox]

I reached kruk and my damage is absolutely nowhere.. time to grind lads

[faint wigeon]

whats your dmg on who?

[toxic fox]

76662039 on dk
I can’t post a screenshot for some reason

[faint wigeon]

damn its fine, I kinda ranked up my void salt a bit too much so now I just need to fix it back

[faint wigeon]

!image

[obtuse orbit]

Why can't I send images?

For moderation purposes, images are not able to be sent until you reach the Copper Bar - Lv.1 (Lv.3 for #1073780959087964210 ). To level up in the discord, just hang out and talk for a bit. Every minute, you will get xp as long as you sent a message. Spamming will not level you up faster, so please don't do it. Try !rank in #bot-commands to see what level you are.

[faint wigeon]

76M dmg? thats like more than double the recommended dmg on DK

you just need to kill the mole with your AOE, statue, bommerang and slash

[toxic fox]

Moles take me ages to kill

On the stage before

I’ve just been leveling alchemy, stamps and put the rest of characters in divinity

[faint wigeon]

they do have 900M hp

good

[toxic fox]

I’ll see if Deuscythe helps me out more, trapping the shinies is real slow for me

[solar seal]

when you say 76M dmg, this is the dmg shown on your character sheet right? not dmg from a skill

[toxic fox]

Yes it’s the maximum damage

[solar seal]

if you have that much dmg then its an issue wrt your talents

[faint wigeon]

normally you shouldn't have a dmg problem like I said

[solar seal]

https://i.imgur.com/o9Kt2Xu.png

if your talents are still all base 100 - this would be the likely reason why you aren't able to progress on the boss

[faint wigeon]

damn thx was gonna search for it after but I guess you got there faster than me searching for it

[solar seal]

these are my images so i have quick acess to them

[faint wigeon]

what isn't from you, like half the things I've been spreading and sharing is from you I think

[solar seal]

[toxic fox]

Is there a way I can show you my account without screen shot?

[solar seal]

you'd need to link your account to either !IT or !IE - make your profile public and then share the link

!IT

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[solar seal]

!IE

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger

[solar seal]

either that or just keep chatting every few minutes til you level up

you could also just upload your SS to a site like imgur and share the link that way

[toxic fox]

https://redbackkk.idleonefficiency.com/players

I’m probably way behind in things

[faint wigeon]

why is your BB cooking? div jail or let him chow

[solar seal]

are you unable to hit 81k Accuracy w/o balanced spirit (talent which reduces your dmg?)

[proven parrot]

siege captain hat best hat for dk?

[solar seal]

for active farming, yes

your talents aren't the worst. i'd recommend a respec to shift somethings, but if your char sheet really say 76M, you should be able to kill it

but i have to say, i'm suspect that you actually ahve 76M

since you typed out all the numbers

at 10M+, your dmg number should truncate itself

i'm guessing you actually have 7.6M and not 76M

[faint wigeon]

upgrade them bubbles!

and do vials

stamps as well ig

[toxic fox]

I felt like I ignored it

[faint wigeon]

redo your prints with royal sampler on all, BB fish, DK ore, Bubo/ES logs, SB bugs, BM anything (mob mats maybe) with mman

max your 3d printer in the construction

[solar seal]

verify this number again. and make sure its not 7,662,039 without an extra 6

[faint wigeon]

holy meal level 30

[solar seal]

if you are only 7.6M, you will not kill kruk

[faint wigeon]

get these meal + cheese at diamond plates (level 11)

[toxic fox]

The 9 was a mistype

I don’t know why I typed 9 , sorry

[solar seal]

bingo

[spiral path]

so if I'm understanding the blue arcade ball thing, it increases the maximum level you can upgrade it? None of my arcade upgrades are anywhere near close to being max level... not having slime is a bummer

[solar seal]

nothing to apologize for. you just have some backtracking to do to pick up some dmg and you have it

[faint wigeon]

try to get void armor + weapon, tenacity rings and caustic chiz scarf, get at least gold tools and put 1 heal food and all speed pot on your DK

[solar seal]

close. if you have a max arcade bonus - it simply doubles it by spending 5 of the points. nothing else

[faint wigeon]

gamba time

[spiral path]

ok, I also thought about that being what it did. So still no use to me, but sounds like it is pretty good for those who are

[toxic fox]

Will do. Is it worth progressing on the trapping quest or keep it on penguins while I try for shiny to build next wep

Because I’m trying to upgrade trapping via alchemy and such

[spiral path]

trapping will suck until you get the drone

[faint wigeon]

yeah always try to progress on it, like at least have 1 trap solely on getting the newest critter you have, and rest is farming whatever you need for crafts or bubbles or salts

[solar seal]

https://i.imgur.com/6ozzOEj.png this image prob explains it the best

[spiral path]

I'm missing slime and all the arcade stamps... so going to take a while before I max any arcade bonus.

[granite charm]

this card takes so long to level up

[spiral path]

2 stars was pretty quick, but 3 stars will take me a while

mostly because I'm accruing AFK time at justice monument

[granite charm]

I have one guy on it for onyx and opals

one guy on hive as well

[spiral path]

oh, I put everyone on it to onyx it asap

[granite charm]

I don't feel any rush honestly

might be the wrong move but I don't think it will be that helpful

[stable parrot]

I basically just got another doot, I got an opal at .1% chance

[spiral path]

got it to 118 and moved everyone back to first monument and now justice since I unlocked it late

[granite charm]

I unlocked justice yesterday too

[faint wigeon]

@toxic fox also bit later for that bc I just remembered but don't forget to do your miniboss (slush and mush) weekly, (when you can spawn two at least) wiht DK and farm your orb count before summoning them for more loot

[granite charm]

I'm still tryna get my first doot

[spiral path]

I have to be due for an upgrade, right?

[kindred tide]

How does doot work again? Is it just having the divinity unlocked for it to work or do I need to level them to a certain amount?

[spiral path]

lvl 2 divinity, do not need the god unlocked

[kindred tide]

Like the skill to level 2?

[spiral path]

yes

[kindred tide]

Alr ty

[faint wigeon]

but you do want to unlock gods to level their blessings at one point

[kindred tide]

I was hoping to get rift slug but getting doot is nice too..

[faint wigeon]

it is nice tho less value since hole

[kindred tide]

What does hole do?

I haven't progressed that much into it quite yet

[faint wigeon]

plenty of new things but it introduced us 'pocket divinity' where you can link 1 (2 if enhanced) god on all char

tho with doot pocket div bonus becomes a 15% stat boost

[kindred tide]

Oh so having doot is good because it equips all but its value has lessened due to hole essentially?

[faint wigeon]

yeah before hole if you didn't have doot you basically had to actually think what you want to prioritize as god link
now with pocket divinity you get 2 free link on all

[kindred tide]

Okay

[analog raven]

i did krattlekruk on less than half of ur maximum dmg and still beat it easily

just don't auto and instead focus on killing the moles if they come too close

[faint wigeon]

he has 7.6M dmg

not 76M, typo of him I reckon

[analog raven]

oooo

that makes way more sense

[faint wigeon]

yeah x)

[short sparrow]

These gifts are taking forever sigh

[pastel kayak]

Took me about 4 hours

[short sparrow]

Guhhh

[faint wigeon]

surely i get my last 19 before my reset right

[grim talon]

just use bubo

[faint wigeon]

i dont have 200 in tenteyecle, do i still try on bubo?

[pastel kayak]

Hot water coming out of the cold water tap here

[grim talon]

it'll be slower, but you're not using it for cc so

still better than es though, as drop rate has no effect on those

[faint wigeon]

alr

[blazing juniper]

l still have 28 more😢

yay l got the new name tag

[raven fog]

Does afk gain effect hour amount in moument

[halcyon knot]

Why i dont spend any talent point in SB unending loot search but my sailing do unending loot

[late copper]

do you have 2 SB?

[short sparrow]

Great news it only takes about 2 hrs to get 50 gifts with my ES at suggma

[halcyon knot]

Just 1 SB

[terse verge]

Known bug atm

[halcyon knot]

Oh, ok ty

[terse verge]

Only specifically “monument afk” can help boost

[raven fog]

Okk

Thx

[turbid plaza]

Is the only place to get it endless summoning?

[terse verge]

Both monuments have them as rewards if you get deep enough in their events

[turbid plaza]

How deep?

Like roughly what max damage

[visual grail]

What comes after the den in the caverns

I have some opals and I don't know if I should invest in explorer again

[terse verge]

Bravery - 32+
Justice - 50+

[terse verge]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700 or wiki “the caverns” - its all there

[ocean lily]

does total hound kill still just increase total bucket speed by like ~15/hr per character type? is that intentional?

[terse verge]

Its a bonus from an early engineering schematic - so yes its intentional. But most folks are way past that bonus mattering since we get millions/billions per hour now

[turbid plaza]

I haven’t done den a single time since hole released

[weary acorn]

Im trying to make a dk drop build, what's the maximum drop rate for silver obol of double sixes?

[turbid plaza]

Like 50

[grave latch]

Den is only good if you can hit opal thresholds

[weary acorn]

I mean like per obol

it starts at 5% but I don't know what it can go up to

[turbid plaza]

6%

[mighty parcel]

I've been having this issue where my buckets are not upgrading I'm at a little over 13 mil a bucket but my rocks capacity are not upgrading is it a bug

[autumn spear]

just unlocked world 5, do i toss everyone onto divination?

[empty wharf]

Yes. Same to lab

Get goat for lab jail again.

[autumn spear]

yeah thas what i was thinkn

also just unlocked my 8th character, any specific recommendations?

[empty wharf]

Depends on what u have. Get vman, DK for construction, ES for dootless and divinity passive less hassle, SB for catch prints.

[autumn spear]

i pushed to w5 specifically to get outa lab jail xD

hence lvl 90s and 80 still xD

[lost plank]

You'll never truly leave lab jail.

This is but a temporary exit.

Heck, it's even more efficient to have goharut so you can get two gains at once

[analog raven]

oh hay u made it

well good news, u're out of lab jail for now

bad news, it's a new jail 😄

[autumn spear]

Nononono

[analog raven]

yesyesyes

[autumn spear]

What do you mean for now

[analog raven]

sure i guess.

[autumn spear]

The WHOLE reason i forsaken my plans was to just leave the lab 😂

Divinity surely doesnt take too long wrong?

Right*** tf did i write wrong for

[analog raven]

soo

I actually got a guild mini blog where i track my days in jail

sec letme check.

@autumn spear okie so, i got to w5 on 28th nov, jail all the way until today where i got bunny god

[rustic hull]

I went from lab jail to altar jail back to lab jail and now I'm in the hole

Never really get out of jail, just get relocated

[autumn spear]

Ah you see

I just need the one that does lab stuff

And then im going back to w4

[analog raven]

the bear

or the goat?

[rustic hull]

Lab jail is W4

[autumn spear]

Makes everyone active in lab?

I think goat

[analog raven]

makes everyone active but no exp earn?

[autumn spear]

Yeah

[analog raven]

bear

[rustic hull]

Goat is the one that makes you count as also at the divinity altar

[autumn spear]

Oh man, is the bear very far?

[rustic hull]

Arctis, the bear, is like having an ankle monitor

[analog raven]

nope, 2nd god

[autumn spear]

Splendid

[rustic hull]

No, but you really want to go farther than that

[analog raven]

i took 17 hours for goat first time round

[autumn spear]

A quick trip to world 5

[analog raven]

then bear was 5mins lol

i won the 1% roll

[autumn spear]

No i dont, i just want lab bonus' so i can keep working on other stuff 😂 i got lots of quests and achievements to do since pushed

[rustic hull]

You will, sooner or later

[autumn spear]

Later, i play this game at an ungodly slow speed

[rustic hull]

W6 will add more bonuses, so you'll need longer lab connections and 2100 lab levels to unlock w6 jewels

[analog raven]

like me :3

i think a couple of us here rush to w6 to bing chill

[rustic hull]

I would think having characters sitting in lab is the chill move

[analog raven]

w6 is actually pretty chill

[autumn spear]

I am def slower. I have like 3 meals with any levels on it

[analog raven]

u just come back now and then to complete stuff

[autumn spear]

(albeit theyre like lvl 10 each cause i have no meal left behind from one of the packs)

[analog raven]

well anyway u can update ur name to super early w5 now haha

[rustic hull]

I mean, managing 10 characters (or however many you've unlocked) sounds like a lot more work and effort than having 1 "active" and everyone else floating in tubes

[autumn spear]

The deed is done

[analog raven]

See u tmr in w6 😬

[stable parrot]

PICKLE

[autumn spear]

Lol nope. I just got the trap drone and rankd up my refinery to a good spot, so i got a Bunch of alchemy and stuff to do now

Also needa skill up half my guys

[analog raven]

Yes god

[autumn spear]

And resample alot

[cyan mantle]

Pickle

[silver loom]

Is island 13 opera island? I'm pushing it right now since power of tri 2 isn't upgraded so it gets affected by nblb

[proud arch]

anyone got a gauge on how much higher there points go. this gold bread amount seems low i think i was to slow at the start

[fickle lake]

once agains ios isnt updating

[pastel kayak]

@cyan mantle I have $35 iTunes credit would that be enough for a pack in game?

[pastel kayak]

I can play on my laptop while I wait for the update on my iPad

[cyan mantle]

Stop whaling

[pastel kayak]

Mum brought home iTunes credit today

[cyan mantle]

Ask someone else

@worldly lagoon

[fickle lake]

most definitely, but if u want something like riftwalker pack maybe not

most packs are 20-30 range

[midnight bronze]

How do i make my exp gain faster?

[boreal ocean]

ES talents, meals, stamps, post office, sigils etc etc
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=divinity exp

[midnight bronze]

Tyy

[pastel kayak]

Have $35 Aussie iTunes credit to spend when update comes out on iPad

[faint wigeon]

wait till div lvl 5 or 10 to get better stance

[gilded yarrow]

does goharut's minor bonus stack?

[fleet kelp]

Does anybody know what the "portal opened" pop up at tremor wurms mean?

[fickle lake]

yes

[gilded yarrow]

Seems to be a new animation he added for all maps. I got the same thing in w1 but im in w6

It only went off for me on some characters tho

[fleet kelp]

Oh i see thank you @gilded yarrow

[magic crypt]

2nd bleach cauldron or first zen cog?

[fickle lake]

cauldron for short term, zen cog for long.

but cauldron is prolly the best option, cause alchemy solves everything.

[worldly lagoon]

Im the last person to ask about whaling i just buy everything

[cyan mantle]

Oh yeah

[worldly lagoon]

Zen cogs last. Too expensive to prioritize

[stuck river]

The wheel fucking drifted

[dense ridge]

how long do i need for level 25? :p

[stuck river]

Bro why are you level 23 at w5

[dense ridge]

its my journeyman not my main

[stuck river]

Thank god

Why are you purposely asking then

[dense ridge]

wdym

i actually dont know

[stuck river]

Your main should have passed 25 no?

[dense ridge]

yes

i need this for maestro

[stuck river]

Oh

Damn I forgot I have bad memories

Max out happy guy and pray

[dense ridge]

thats what im doing :p

ill check back in an hour ig

[stuck river]

Smithing was my last skill lol so I didn't really pay attention to that

[dense ridge]

smithing is easy to level up

i have 3 anvils and it works with time candy

[stuck river]

I
Wasted 12 1 hour candies back then for that💀

[dense ridge]

yea same

[stuck river]

How's your main btw

[dense ridge]

wdym

level 170 es

[stuck river]

Es nice

[dense ridge]

yep

[stuck river]

Like the big damage

Man I feel old I pushed w5 7 months ago

[dense ridge]

damn..

[languid mist]

Am I still expected to use food to sustain my ES when AFKing in w5?

[stuck river]

1 slot best

Atp you should have 4 slots, my preference is 2 for gfood(kebab, cheese nomwich), 1 speed pot, 1 health if needed

[languid mist]

Yea I have all 4. I'm running 2 gfood, 1 speed pot and 1 quotient exp pot on my DK. He does just fine, hasn't struggled with sustain since W4 (or maybe it was W3). My ES does fine actively but I get dumpstered with two food slots when doing a night-long afk on the second W5 map.

[zinc torrent]

Why is discord saying you're apart of an online terrorist organization...

[teal lynx]

They set that themselves for the "funny" memes

[ancient oxide]

he wrote that himself... what are you 5?

[zinc torrent]

I hardly use discord

[teal lynx]

Not surprised from someone that has a crying girl as his pfp

[stuck river]

[zinc torrent]

You guys seem weird

[stuck river]

[pastel kayak]

@teal lynx do you ever sleep?

[teal lynx]

Yes I slept 8 of the last 10 hours

[stuck river]

What

[pastel kayak]

Bad bad bad bad @teal lynx I think you did not sleep for that long

[teal lynx]

[fickle lake]

ios pls update

[stuck river]

Nah don't feel like it

[fickle lake]

ill slide you a gem

[old drift]

just got an extra slave for meditating 🆒

[stuck river]

1000 or bust

[stuck river]

How does bro have 0 all stat

[old drift]

i just created it

[fickle lake]

nah 1000 too much ill do 1.2

[old drift]

i got account lvl750

[languid mist]

Ok I think I see what my issue is. The foods I'm using while I'm afk are the only that would heal me up to full but not exceed my total hp when healing. According to the guide I just read, I should be AFKing with the most powerful healing food I have available for purchase then, right?

[fickle lake]

yes

[stuck river]

No but alchemy still gives you decent stats to start with there is no way you have 0

[stuck river]

How in the cinnamon toast are you supposed to give me 1.2 gems

[fickle lake]

how do roles work in this server i was journeyman a few weeks ago

[stuck river]

Talk more

[languid mist]

Damn, I had no idea that was how it's calculated. Thank you 🤦

[fickle lake]

1 gem and 0.8 time candy

[stuck river]

Bro

That's not how maths work

[stiff oyster]

whats best spot to farm gift boxes as a dk

[old drift]

ping me when it did 😂

[stuck river]

Farm with bubo

[stiff oyster]

i have bubo but no invested points

[stuck river]

Or are you just in the tutorial phase still

[stiff oyster]

can u send through a bubo point guide pls

[stuck river]

Do you have 200 talents levels

Achievable in a single talent

[stiff oyster]

no

i have max talent lvl 129

[stuck river]

Then div more

[stiff oyster]

? how does that help+

?*

[peak verge]

Higher divinity increases the lvl bonus you get from Arctis but if you're only at 129, you have more pressing matters.

[stuck river]

I meant to tell him to unlock more gods

[stiff oyster]

not player lvl 129

max talent lvl from library

[peak verge]

Yes, max talent. That is very low.

Start sailing.

[stiff oyster]

i have up to rabbit unlocked

harriep

[signal dome]

am i missing something? giant mobs in W1 are dropping a lot of talent books

ITS THE REGULAR MOBS THE FUCK

[stiff oyster]

update probs

[peak verge]

This one got added in the update, replacing a rather useless talent.

[signal dome]

all the mobs drop the same one?

ah nvm it goes away after you get it

[stiff oyster]

what did it replace

[junior arrow]

well it didnt replace it, the other talent is still there just moved to page 4 thats all

[stiff oyster]

quick question

how do i get the ball joe pickle vile to 14

vial*

one more question

how did my archer get faster after being left afk

its speed went up arounf 50%

[stable temple]

Buy 5billion arcade balls and pray

[stiff oyster]

XDXDXD

balljoepickle greenstack

[stable temple]

I dont think a single person even has it lvl3

[surreal cloak]

If i use the vacuum traps from rift, does my Bm need to be in his skilling spec when it automatically collects, for max gains?

[signal dome]

+1

[teal lynx]

Not needed
The traps give critters / xp based on the stats when you placed them

[pine viper]

Whats happens if I log out

[junior arrow]

you wouldnt be looking to cheat now would you

[magic crypt]

started fixing up my gear for characters

or rather currently a single character

do I get void tools on specialized classes only(+secret class) or on all classes?

[faint wigeon]

void on all

[hardy swan]

Hi! I was wondering what I should choose on the Statue monument? I usually pick mining efficiency. Is there something that should be prioritized? (Except opals ofc)

[simple wadi]

Specialized first, and then you'll want to get all of your characters the best tools for the stat bonuses

[empty wharf]

me with dementia tools cause of dense water.

[faint wigeon]

bucket fill rate and villager xp is what I go for

[simple wadi]

Opals should be prioritized, but after that it depends on what you're looking for. I tend to go for bucket fill rate, and later stages of the monument will also give bell ping rate that you'll want to grab. But there is no wrong answer

[magic crypt]

alright, thanks

[empty wharf]

Traps and skulls sucks. burns tons of dense water.

[hardy swan]

Oki, thank you guys!

[magic crypt]

so there's 3 things I can do after goat now
either: get vman
lab jail
monument jail

[peak verge]

Vman most likely. The jails are way longer time investments.

[empty wharf]

Lab jail with maestro on gmush and es/bb for 1m kills.

[magic crypt]

whuh
multiple steam achievements just popped up

[simple wadi]

Congratulations

[glass quest]

Check the patch note

[magic crypt]

nothing about steam achievements

[ancient oxide]

Lava added w1 achievements that trigger in w2 town

[kindred tide]

Do I get the minor link bonus with king doot pet?

[zealous willow]

Yes

[kindred tide]

Awesome