#lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ
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THE DISCORD LUCK
Equinox is gotta be then, I only have 2 dreams unlocked
hey so rerolling for bravery works how?
now upgrade to the second tier
But of course
slap world 5 upgrade stone and see how much dmg you missing
Hi Shiro! \o
family obol
o7
Throw one sword -> If you don't like the damage it did you click the re-throw button
Important is to not spam your swords
Run the numbers, see what you're still missing. You're way too early to start on onyx statues.

Oh, I didn't know about this sheet, I will check then
Doot gave me super human speed
also congrats
If it's too early to farm Onyx statues, idk what should I focus then x)
Getting ready to farm onyx statues by improving your DR. 
Your characters could use some levels since you have a lot of slots still locked.
do you have coco?
card
Are your obols rerolled?
Nope, I haven't rerolled any obol yet
https://trink94.idleonefficiency.com/ - for reference
rip
You reroll obols when they're on bronze (or silver if they don't have bronze), since it's a lot cheaper than rerolling at higher rarities.
doesnt matter if you have choco chip
the only thing that matters is how long do you want to sit infront of your pc and dismantle them before filter all of them
u r not ready for onyx
I see! I got an account review by Ace last week, and I kinda did the homework π , in what should I focus now? #lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ message
Can confirm high drop rate obols is awful
You're missing DR stamp, DR bubble needs love, you'll need W5 card and King Doot, you're missing the DR prayer which is at least 1x more dr on DK.
The prayer is your biggest boost right now.
Also with this extra god relink (I don't have doot) which should be the proper setup
real link - all arctis, 2nd es on purrmep (this es poly's to bear)
1st pocket - harriep
2nd pocket - as needed
1st es poly can be whatever you want
This is good. Combine it with whatever !review is telling you and you should be fine.
yup, I'm strictly following that, it's super helpful
Regarding the god links. I currently have them linked to Goat, to farm divinity points
There's some leeway but you skipped straight to onyx farming and clearly it's not working. 
and in pocket I have the Arctis, which is helping me a bit with the flexibility and not losing the lab buffs
I'm so sorry to tell you, but Goat and Bear don't work like that. You're not getting divinity unless you're actually in the lab.
Goat only works if your character is physically in the lab, bear just mimics your character in lab
Yeye, but while my main char isn't in the lab. Arctis is helping me a bit, I don't have enough lab lvls to be able to get my main char out of the lab and get all the buffs
so, I need the link to be active for him
I was just gonna ask that because I had arctis in pocket div and goharut pledged too. Rip. Have to repledge two people correctly again tomorrow and take a bunch of people back off bravery and pit them in the lab.
It's a temporary workaround while I get lab width
I currently have them linked to Goat, to farm divinity points
That's what they are referring to. Arctis is completely fine
Main Link Goat is also fine, but for the afk gains not for the divinity points π«‘
Edit: Or is Arctis pocket just for your main character and the others are in Lab 
my opinion right now is, if you need lab level, just connect the mages to goat(except second es that guy should connect to Purrmep) and jail them, the rest should be on arctics and chill 5 feet apart in bravery because they are not...
Speaking of this, your characters are like... lvl 160 on average, except your mains. Throw all of them in the first map of W6 and they'll go to like 250 in 10 minutes.
Arctis pocket is for everyone. You're just in that stage where unfortunately you still need to actually progress divinity and goat is still useful for you, so you can't just discard it for the sake of arctis.
My poor alts haven't moved from lab for a while π
I can tell. 
Don't worry, the lab prison returns in a future episode, featuring Sneaking upgrades.
I'm almost tempted to say that you're way too early even for Bravery afk in the hole.
i mean after 24000h in bravery they will be back to beign wet again
And the other one too
What should be my priorities @peak verge to focus on? π
From what I read;
Quick level up my alts in W6
Focus on the DR general stuff (alchemy, stamps, prayer and King doot)
Check the magic 8ball (!review)
On the side, I also want to get the 20 greenstacks
you will get that by upgrading your printing
And here I thought I speedran to W6. Some of y'all just skipped worlds entirely.
which require alchemy
Ain't nobody doing catch-up in W5 anymore smh.
Isn't that terrible!
the only thing they catch will be my hands soon
You sure you don't have other categories above?
how much more damage will i need t beat world 5 boss
you have it
Looks ok.
ok
For real, I've been strictly following this xD
but like i am running out of mp
tf
then use your skill manually
thats normal now, lava nerf it
Is it THAT bad?
ok thanks see you in world 6
yes, iirc my es even run out of mana
the fuck
use boomerang + knight + that wave skill
only use boomerang if you see the mole
else just let dk auto attack the boss
btw since you already have chizoar dont make the w4 gear
if anything only make 1 set for slabs
Ok damn nvm then. Maybe this is street knowledge and somehow not included in the review but you should have everyone in lab until lvl 75 (to unlock the last chip slot) and then divinity (lab with goat) until lvl 40 (lvl 50 for 1 character). All the stuff in review is primarily revolved around improving your skilling, samples and the such, so you need to make your own choices in order to improve your damage. (Stamps, first two bubbles, other damage bubbles etc.)
this is the gear you want to start w6 onwards (also in anvil 4 tho but at the bottom)
making troll armor is so painful π
It absolutely is. β€οΈ Boots, pants and chest get extremely easy with DR but the helmet sucks ass because of those golden twines.
you mean because helm cost almost twice as much right ?
golden twines you should just candy them
smart move would also be just ignoring the helm at the beginning and aim striaght to divine armor, because that one is also straight up free
nah, fuck that. Salts are fine after a point, 20k starfire and 50 troll is lightwork. The twines can suck my balls tho.
But yeah otherwise you can go from troll to divine very easily.
for me, nullo salts are the worst, I have to wait weeks to fix my refinery because I completely neglected it for a very long time
kenway just need a beating dont worry
Well... that's an entirely different problem. 
everything other than nullo salt I can easily get
has anyone else had -1 opals?
and now tldr: opal in bravery rate was to high, he changed it to 5 if you have more than 6 and if you have 6, you would end up with -1 opal
Whatβs the best tree to go into for cosmo the conjured?
any one know what do to with the harp*?

finally world 6
gj gj
now before yo udo anything
follow the npc questline
else you will cry and i wont comfort you
Now, its time to backtrack progress alot
But i dont think your char the type to rush w5 so the backtrack gonna be a bit easier
damn I remember entering w6 with trillions
turtle gamer
π³
35m coins? Or what do u mean
dmg
Ah
thats rushed to w6 in my opinion
tahts why he should follow the npc for the skill to not messing anything up, then ignore world 6 to backtrack
omniphau on everyone via hole is insane I'm glad I didn't start this game sooner
Nvm im gonna finish divinity first
when you say 300m, this is your character sheet dmg? - common parlance is this is the dmg you state, not your highest hit
yes, it should be quick
Character sheet dmg
Real hits are much higher
you should rush w6 and start the time grinds, divinity will always be there but better to get jump start on w6
Alrigt
300m sheet dmg is very high for mid w5 no? think i only had aroun 35M at that point
W6 time it is
Rule of thumb always start new content, at least start it. Get the clock ticking
yeah, its really high
had someone come through yesterday with 1.3B saying they were p2w, unfortunately never shared ie/it. still confused how they got that high
#lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ message
Ive only been to w5 for a week when the hole came out
Whats your div levels then? Or lab levels. You can't be near 40/75 haha
Yeah its bad lmao
thats normal usually if you had a foundation
Divinity is below 20, lab around 25 avg
i had that without p2w xd
Im p2w too tho
that char level is suspicious. 381 coming straight out of w4? even if you candy to kruk w/ bad kph, its like ~300
onyl dmg buff was phoenix wing iirc
You cant p2w div hehe
yes, it's weird
Thats only possible if u afk for ages
Or already did crystal farming
no crystal farm needed
Level 381? Must have been afk for a year or something
i just remember that when i got to w6, i could 2 shot the second difficulty with es
Most of my chars still around 90 coming out of W4.
The divinity exp thing in the gem shop: 
Any of us that were grinding before W5 release easily had that. A new account to P2W and hit that without actually getting to W5 first is unlikely
True
agreed - I don't think thats a legit account
oh, just saw the accuracy, too. guess they boosted all their bubbles except for main stat 
yeah accurracy 801k out of w4... not a shot
That screams someone cheated and didn't know the game and just boosted accuracy because he couldn't clear maps
very susge
there's reason they didn't link an IE/IT 
on 11/9 he didn't know how to lab but he has those stats? lol not even a chance
i tried to get it out of them 
I got where i am in the last 25 days from late w3
He has Lustre in w4 aswell which is supuer weird
Thats where i came back from afking for 2 years
lustre is doable in w4 - hard, but not impossible - i wouldn't ding someone in w4 just cause they have lustre
anyone else has rigged cleaning bell? cant be 60%, i failed about 6 or 7 times now.
rng be rng
rng bb 
It is doable for sure... but you gotta REAALLY be taking your time to get it
Btw does the renewing bell increase in cost? Thats my greatest fear
I dont have anything void at end of w4
Mostly bc of salts
yeah, 2 months probably isn't enough for it 
i agree. its a, i spent a year in w4 just afk on and off - which is why i wouldn't ding 'em.
i don't know how long this guys been playing, but def can be more susge if its short
So real
How far are u rn?
This mf traveled back in time
I got to W5 2 days ago, so my div is level 3 π
Pro
if anything @frank prairie I SUMMON YOU
Im going back to divinity once i reach the 750h mark in the monument in the hole
0.000000% legit account lol
huh, apparetly he shared a partial IE
Looks like my stuff tbh
he's just a better player 
Why is it not legit?
yeah but he also said he's only played for 2 months
Oh I found a better one!!!!
either way edvin also start recently and that guy have been grinding idleon to maximum in those time while still need to go to school
Hm
theres no way you can get that much alch in 2m
dmgf sheet on 10/8/24
How do you reset the 3 villager upgrades?
my bubbles are half that
dmg sheet yesterday
Maybe if he rushed w4 and then instantly got the refinery tripler going
its not just the alchemy. its state of the alch versus stats that he's claiming vs. world he's in. guy's making claims that are wildly inconsistent
Gained virtually no dmg in a month lol
How long does it take to get to w3 nowadays?
his first discord message was 6 months ago thoug 
Or w4
poor fellow doesn't even realize he's being roasted to a crisp
Thats a dead giveaway
@ancient patrol
he brought it upon himself 
π
Dose the purple bel reset the upgrades of the 3 villager?
the conjurer bonus reset is in cavern 7, the lamp
bell reset is to undo the "ring bell" levels
Renewing bell only resets bells
Just use the Carlos method
Whats the div p2w in gem shop?
But there is nothing that actually resets villager exp, you can only reset tje spent opals
I'm tempted
:0 dang I need to invest opal in that 1st guy I guess
since c10 is end of current hole content, its not a bad idea. then you can use lamp to readjust after getting that far
+150% points and exp
time is money my friend
Not yet, I havent fought anything in w5 yet
Get to the hole, ur gonna get lots of skill exp and efficiency multipliers
I want bear at least first
I think the skill exp ones should affct divinity as well no?
btw #costume-closet if y'all both don't want to be yellow
Im at leek spirits with ~230B max dmg on my DK and I feel like Im really behind :(
yeah, i wouldn't push without multikill, especially if you're getting to those larger locks
you got to the summoning npc, so time to go fix your alchemy 
This thing is so op
Here's some things you can work on, too
https://i.imgur.com/c1RhPXA.png
W6 opens up a whole new world of map pushing
Gotta work on multikill
and your 2nd wizard who has no gear at level 122 in the lab? π€£
what does daily lamp wishes do?
2100 hours 
Lab never ends until you get doot, but 2100 total to get the jewels
Damn
lamp uses its own currency which only increase with that daily gain
Im in for a treat then
so your saying my 3 first rings with the bell is usless
First lab prison is up to lvl 75 on everyone.
Can you skill exp boost with cards and maestro claw talents, or is it fixed to 100% afk rate like divinity
this is actually underestimating it, i think. 2100 hrs is just under 9 days w/ 10 in lab. definitely takes longer
2100 levels
possible 
Hi! Could anyone let me know what this "All measurement bonuses are 1x higher" is referring to? It's one of the upgrades from Cosmo, in the hole
Measurement villager from cavern 7 or sth
measurement bonuses are those given by 4th villager found in c7
Aah I see, thank you!
why are bm cooldowns so high 
Not useless. It still increased it, you just dont have lamp yet I am assuming
yeah justy got bell ringed 3 times all the daily lamp wwish stuff
I didn't break the leek spirits lock until I had 10T max damage on my SB for what it's worth
I would trade all my upgrades for lamp upgrades
Lamp is SO slow
Its like farming for sneak hats in W6 π
damn Im really far away from that 
I believe mine was somewhere there too. When I first got to the portal it was 6-8 days constant of active play to open it on DK
once you can one shot active bubo pushes 1 billion times better
i was getting like 4 mil kph pushing with bubo
megacrit helps with that
yeah but multi character portals are brutal
also the monolith star talent helps a lot with low levels of multikill
I did the leek spirit lock with ES Bubo BB and SB
how does mana is life work cause i dont see how my ES can almost become unkillabel with it lol
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I think they are easily one of the best changes.
Not really a spoiler anymore... but I'm old and don't know how to do cool stuff like that in discord anyway so sorry if I ruined it for you π
you use double || around text to make it spoiler
max out your tab 1/2 mana talents
||are you sure ||
Hey whipper snapper, I didn't ask for this
Idk anything about w6 except the skill names and that its super hard
|. .|
he is serious, yes
only at 215K mana
why do you need more than 215k mana
with both maxed? pump that int then 
Flexing
idk i still get 1 tapped
Damn
that shouldn't happen unless you have literally 0 defense
take off -def prayers, too
or 0 points in hemo talent
20K def
...
do you have the talent on your bars?
the only thing that should be able to kill you then is MAYBE the spiritlord
yes its activating
no the wolfs in the hole kill me
oh well obviously

π
yeah, that's kind of the point. you push until you can't
π
just pump your FMJ bubble
man these wolves with 100Q attack are killing me, that's unfair!!!!!!
^
actually only 160Million
oh well you should just push on DK then since you can get 160 million HP
hmm i dont think that is true
it's true with enough mainstat
π± no way
i'm relatively new to the game and my dk has 2? mil hp
HP is linearly scaled to str so i mean....
yeah i saw just booked and leveled my my health related stuff and ended with 8Mil
i just nerglected health since start
nerglected
Just be like Carlos
is this very low or not ?
Is there a saling guide? Do I do islands first or clouds?
Be warned that seeing 0.01% odds doesn't actually mean you are at 0.01% find chance. 0.01 is simply the lowest displayed odds whereas your actual odds might be much lower.
New artifact find sources in W6 are: turtle vial (52% before vial mastery), killroy prime (dependent on how many skulls you spend), sneaking pristine charm (1.4x), Ender Captains unlock through Jade Emporium (1.25x/captain), and Artifact Attraction lab node unlock through Jade Emporium (1.5x).
1 ship with fastest boat speed + cloud discvovery unlock island
so basicly i need to increase my odds to 0.02% to get sovereign?
that wasn't the point i was trying to make. you can still find sovereign at 0.01 or lower (just obviously much more difficult). i was meaning to not be lulled into sense that you are at 0.01% since it could be lower - i have no idea on your stats
my td is bugged, all monsters showing as alive, but theyre dead
\
well this kinda sucks
those "phantom" td mobs happen - no one knows exactly why, but they are very annoying and can cause you to lose your run -- since they distract kraken push back
the fire spirits had alot more health than i thought
yeah thankfully it was wave 1 and i was just chasing them lol
atleast compared to the last rift enemy
going from 3x multikill on all my characters to not even 1x is π
and idk how beefy the actual rift enemies are
Just unlocked w5 what should I do first
get into div jail lmaoooo welcome
Set up ur sailing, start gaming and then put every8ne in divinity
take all your boys and dump them in the divinity prison
check out the other skills first thou
i need to start working on my damage somehow it feels far too low
Get ur best pusher to get to the hole map tho
for this stage in the game
mm thats a good point too
almost forgot you had to unlock that shit
3rd map ye
2 unlocks thou
so you unlock the 1st and 2nd portal and you should have access
Porbs best to do with killer brightside tho
or you can enjoy the div xp either way, idk which is more "efficient"
I that the lab node for double kills?
Yeah
I agree then
Damn i shold put the mantis god on the dk im pushing with
Im missing out on portal progress
"Bring Them Back" on lamp... does it change, or is it always bravery time that you get?
Bought 5 points in the shop, what should i get?
How to get to w5? what are the recommendations
4 here instantly
whats the recommended gear and stats for him
Look here @obsidian wave
I personally was around lvl 200with my blood berserker when i killed the w4 boss
Hows ur dmg @obsidian wave
Absolutely everyone?
Ideally yes
Even if they're not elite yet
Its like lab kinda
Alr
Get ur elite classes
What gods should I aim for until I start to do other stuff
U want at least a siege breaker, a divine knight and an elemental sorcerer
They have the w5 skills in their tab 4
at least bear (second god)
Got all that
Then ur good to go ig
Just BM and second DK I think
Alr
How should I be spending the points I get
But i really recommend getting evetyone their elite class, it doesnt take long
On the 25 or the 1
It does not matter really
Alr np
usual advice is rolling left side until you get a 100% on the right then saving for that, up to you though 
Alr
Abt how long should it take
comes down to rng
i've seen some people get first two gods on their first rolls, i've seen some people take a week or two to get it (i was in the week camp I think)
Alr that's good
Got exams rn so can't check on the game much anyway
how does harp work? does it stack over 100% or i have to hit the string every time its 100% for it to not stop gaining percentage?
How do I unlock the 3rd bucket ressource?
i got 1 point left what should i get?
Let me lead you down a dark path
sure..
Got doot?
nope
mine the purple layer for new ores
How does sword re-throw work in Bravery?
The re-throw option is only for a singular sword, not for whole encounters. You are allowed up to 5 per story telling attempt (once every 20 hours - which can be sped up using lanterns). Once you are facing a more difficult encounter, you will want to: only roll 1 sword, let the animation finish, and then you will see the option to re-throw that sword. Be aware that you don't keep the damage from the initial throw. The fight heals rewinds and you simply reattempt that one sword.
If you click a new sword, you will have locked in the previous sword's attempt and cannot re-throw it any longer.
TL:DR - don't faceroll all 5 swords
it happened to all of us 
Only just unlocked Eldritch artefacts ππ these a big power up?
yes
i'd work on getting eldritch tusk first for the arti% then get tablet if you need sailing speed so you can grab the futher ones
prio on the frosted mask for samples, then fury for talent levels
from there you can work on gaming/div artis or w/e else
for future runs, i'd probaly prioritize opal > bucket > villager xp. if you don't ahve any of those then w/e you want to work on. I don't think opal chance is worth it atm
wait im confused, you started with saying prioritize opal then said its not worth it or am i that zooted
there are two separate opal options. the first is an actual opal. the second is "chance for bravery opal" or however it's worded. the second one is a no-go
mostly because the base chance for opals becomes so small that any multiplier to them just isn't worth taking
this is what i got so far
did i finish gaming with this?
Chance for opal 0.005%. +8% = 0.0054% chance
did you get the last superbit yet? 
whoa is it that low
chance to gain opals grows smaller the more opals you claim from bravery
I don't know if its that low, but its low and thats how the math checks out with lower drop rates.
so a small multiplier to a small chance is still tiny
i got 5 rn
Like artifacts - same math. Getting 10000% increased artifact isn't as good as just opening a thousand boxes
its a big mulitplier if you actually level it i think cuz i already got 8% with just one upgrade
uhh no
i'm missing 4
thanks! 
If you could take the bonus alone, then it'd be fine, but the opportunity cost of not taking other, better bonuses makes it not worth taking
do you have chem and the equinox upgrade unlocked? 
Are there methods to lower minimum sailing time?
Rn mine are around 2h
Sailing cannot get below 2 hours
It can from shiny pets afaik
I have many of those and my baots still say 2h. Maybe a visual bug?
Or a rounding error, it still spams like a seizure regardless π€£
Awesome
Purple layer?
the UI only shows 2h as lowest time, IE/IT will show you actual times
Seems more likely
the same way you got gold ore
Is the "Dawg Den" multiplier on damage? does it apply outside of the hole?
the amplifiers? they only apply to the hounds
ahh ok
Am I using F correctly?
Is there a hole guide?

what next? need to double check
is it worth neglecting lab and do divinity on all chars untill u get GOAT?
if you have doot, then enhance the first two blues and move into red
if you don't, then pick and enhance first green
this one?
what the main strat to link to?
yes, you'll want to get goat so you can eventually progress in both
no i think the one before that
aight, ty :>
How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity?
My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (2nd ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - normal play - Harriep / Omniphau or Goat
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat / Snake
oh that one, artifact find chance
π
Pro gamer
who needs that late game
What is the best class to push hounds?
unless he added a new tier of artifacts
remember that hole can be accessed pretty early in w5
sure its pointless for many of us, but for other it will help
yea but a w5 begginer isnt going to progress so fast
so should i just ignore it for now if i have all of the important artifacts
its +1 for the villager exp per schematic completed from cosmo
what are the monuments the first red conjurer bonus is refering to? is it shrines, or a world six thing?
i think its the bravery buff you unlock with x amount of hours
pogchamp unlocked bear on 5%
It's the bonuses that you get from bravery runs, not the afk hour unlocks
and if you guys don't mind, another question I have is if you can get a second pocket divinity?
once you unlock the 3rd blue upgrade, you can enhance nodes
for the motherload in the Hole, do you have to be active on it to get progress towards removing the layer? I left my DK afk overnight there and while the away screen said I mined a ton of ore, I made ZERO progress to the next layer. Did I miss something?
i finally figured out how to get more from the buckets, i needed to press on the bucket to change them to breaking the layer π
you need to break the layer before the next layer gets anything
Sure, but the bar
need to pick up the ore if doing it afk for it to count
I did this, but still no progress.
it often drops off to the left when you claim afk. it 100% works afk, just have to manually pick it up. it's possible there's a bug, but basically everyone that's come through and asked about it eventually said they didn't pick up the ore on afk claim
i see, possible I missed it then. I'll look more closely next time.
Hi how could one lose opals in pit? i sudently have -2
it dropped on the far left border of the screen, but I was able to pick it up. Thanks for the help.
anything i could use to boost the chemical plant rates in gaming? 1%< is too awful
Clear board, roll; use sprinkler, clear, roll; use log, clear, roll, use sprinkler, clear, roll
lack of chem sucks for gaming, then chem trains becomes a pain to deal with XD
gravel bucket might be bugged? been like this for over an hour and ive been logged in
did you unlock the upgrade that allow it to expan more than 14times
you've hit max expansions for now
might not be availble for them yet
The upgrade, your engineer needs to discover it
if they got max gravel im guessing that they are probably that far in the game
not necessarily. if you haven't purchased any opals or haven't invested many into engi then it's possible to not have the levels for uber upgrade
Before I start investing points, do you get stepped majit upgrades or only when you completely fill all the upgrade holes
and the regular expand upgrade doesn't mention the 14 limit
each enhance point gives additional bonus
Ty, was hoping some kind of guide would be out by now lol to help the first steps π like the harp took me ages to figure haha (even though ince you know it's pretty obvious)
There is a hole guide
Oh it was empty last time I clicked π
rip
ive purchased all my schematics but my engineer is still lvl 6, unless i missed it somewhere else there is no way for me to tell its maxed upgraded. my gravel is outpacing my exp
you need lvl7
yeah, unfortunately he doesn't mention the 14 expansion limit on the first schematic, it says it on the 2nd one though 
idk
don't think they've discovered anything after uber-expansion
Hopefully lava adds still water update to poppy's lake
Is the Beam Note (β«) after Treble Clef (π) for harp?
looks like it's before based on schematic costs
Treble Clef is 4th and want to know if I get it after I get 110K π of em

Why is there a beam upgrade cost before treble then. Lava y
should i run bravery asap everyday?
yeah, no reason not to. the multi is there more to help you not miss out if you can't run it, but the longer you wait, the longer you go without the extra bonuses you could have gotten
if yo're close to unlocking a new upgrade though, might be worth to wait a bit
Should I spend gems on Conjuror bonus points or Resource Boost - Gem Shop
i went 2x resource then some conjuror points 
what class do u recommend for a first push through world 5? keep in mind i dont have 200 max lvl yet so i cant use the super op bubo thing
DK, easy acc and armor
ES and DK have the easiest time with boss damage requirements. DK is a bit tankier but slower typically
i read that es wormhole kills dont count for portals tho, is that true?
correct, which is why you limit your wormhole to a level that you can easily kill without wasting time trying to kill the mobs
so i should reset his talents and not put many into wormhole i guess?
i'd start with 20-30 and adjust from there
if you're still blasting them at the end of the timer then throw some more points in
okay, ty
and what lvl do u recommend before i start pushing it?
i already have full void equipment but im nowhere near one shotting most enemies in w5 so idk
priority should be on lightning and chainbolt for tab 3
level doesn't mean too much, just damage
if you haven't already, make sure you check out the π for W5 intro guide
i'd wager most people are around 150 when they start pushing though? and end up somewhere between 225-300 when they kill w5 boss
oh okay, ty
i will, ty
talents points are important, you can get them from leveling up skills, combat levels, dungeon flurbo shop, killroy, and alchemy, so make sure you check those out
When do you get max book level so you can actually use those points?
Thats alot of sailing
just logged in and my opals are showing -5. is this a known bug?
ah thank you
quick question bout the well if you have expand bar on and it expands it to max will it keep taking half away or will it stop once maxed out
best second linkl overall or can i change it allways and whats the best here first purchase
can change whenever. affects all characters
How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity?
My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (2nd ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - normal play - Harriep / Omniphau or Goat
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat / Snake
should i purchase it first?
it will stop whenever you hit the # expand cap
got it thanks
I did 
6x prints and then omni procs are pretty nice
True haha its nice since i dont have a doot
so when u have now 2 gods first alignment bear and the harriep for most?
I like bear as main link so that if you swap the pocket link you don't break the alchemy node and lose a bunch of liquid (if you're at that point in the game) and any other lab bonuses. But you do you 
okey thx mate
Can you check pocket whenever?
the guide recommends 30M damage to be able to do the boss, but just the 3rd area enemies have 80M hp so im guessing the last ones are gonna be in the 1B range, wouldnt that take me like over a month to push just one or 2 portals by then with the recommended damage?
when i have goharut main link and secon arctis will i get xp or not
Goat only works if you're physically in lab
ah true
do you have to do something with an item so it will show up in your slab?
I think average time to get through w5 is 3-4 weeks
drop on the ground and pickup
for obols, may need to equip
cloud save normally will force register if they haven't shown up
because I am missing tokens from W1 that I literally used in a craft.
most of those probably show up straight in your inventory so most likely you never dropped them which means you didn't pick them up, which is what causes most items to register
oof, guess I gotta redo a bunch of quests
If it makes you feel better you need 2 of those trophies anyway for the achievement +respawn bonus
not a bad thing, you want do most quests for the skill eff from this talent, too
How get third pocket div

Gotta enhance it using a blue square
The c is right next to the v
Xd
Wait for hole2 in world7
What
there is no third pocket link
How is 'The harp' supposed to work? I see harp power 2000%, and under that icon 'locked'
How would you play a harp IRL? 
I see, thanks
the song of my people 
Question on the hole - tips and tricks guide in w5 pins says to not shoot too far ahead for the motherlode for mining ore for some schematic, which is it?
| WARNING: Since higher levels make mining the ore harder, you may want to AFK some hours here to push your total ores gained for the Schematic as the effy requirement increases the higher the layer is."|
there is a schmatic that gives a boost of total power of 10 on the motherload ores mined
schematic #3
is it easier to get a good score on for the den on dk or es? i think i can get alot more dmg on es but more acc and survivability on dk?
it's literally one of the first i unlocked.. duh, thank you xD was trying to find out where i was going to unlock it
Does renew bell reset the ping bell too?
all classes (archer, warrior, beginner, mage)
my best try so far with ES dont know how to optimize him more
the answer is no lowgun π in case it wasn't made clear by shiro
Alright anyone else have an opinion?
there has to be 1 char that excels more to get point then others no?
dk probably
I was gonna say there was a schematic that gives bucket fill rate based on best runs for each class but it seems ur already past that point 
If resetting the bell reset the ping level, you'd have basically infinite opals, so assume you keep the gained opals and it does nothing to ping?
yepskies
ima test it out
How do i increase the multiplier on the measure bucket fill rate?
does this work for free divinity?
you need to restart your game. there was a hotfix yesterday
I think u mean artis+goat?
oh right mb
it doesn't work
With Pocket Divinity/Doot, why am I unable to gain Divinity XP/Points when I have Bear and Goat selected?
Bear and Goat do not have any beneficial overlap with respect to Lab/Divinity. Bear simply makes you active in the 'Lab mainframe' it does not make you actually 'connected to' Lab, which is what is required for Goat. Since you are not connected to Lab, the Goat Major Bonus does not trigger and you will not gain Divinity XP/Points from your current stance (excluding Tranqi which does not require active meditation).
Note: This isn't to say you would never utilize both Bear and Goat at same time. The trio of Bear/Goat/Snake is the ideal combo for when you are doing resamples.
dmg squad joined the chat 
Ive done so tons of times since yday, still doesnt work, im on android btw.
What is that multiplier based on?
w2 task for max dmg done
damn, thanks tho
the error is that it is taking the task # of the the completed one in w2 instead of the value of your damage
ah, not sure if mobile has had the hotfix pushed yet
but is it possible to stack gods like triple nobi?
So ittl be fixed at some point ssoon then iguess
lava stated he pushed the hotfix to pc so I doubt mobile has it yet
gods don't ever stack with themselves
whould be fun tho
imagine 9X printer output
another win for the ogs π
you also only really needed to worry about it first day. if you can get to 1b quickly then you're pretty set. the multiplier that it gives becomes very small compared to all the other bonuses you'll get
how do i buff bravery sword dmg it just goes up by itself
i'm still at layer 10 and mining 200m/hour, so i'll just sit on it for a few hours then resume smashing the layers~ ty
only at 213M and no chance i get 1Bil did i mess up?
i mean, you have to mine ore to get to higher layers, you'll get there eventually.
but again, the bonus from that schematic becomes very small when you add in all the other upgrades you can get to bucket rate
when it was the only upgrade you had available, it's quite large
at least it's base bucket rate~
good thang couldent make myself stagger half a day before i progress
is it fine to clean bell overnight and hope for the best or should oi just pling it for a while more?
Whats everyones bucket fillrate?
like you'll eventually just get here and be forced to mine ore 
This doesnt work in afk right?
what layer is that ?
if you have mythril unlocked and try to get the first Clean upgrade then sure 
19
what layer is that i need 15M to get the 15layer done
it does, just pick up the ore on the ground when you claim afk
diz?
Oh.... I never did that π«
theres a schematic upgrade that buff the cleaning bell, x1.25 for every failure
re-throw is not well explained.....
is this upgrade worth getting now?
No, I was saying if you have mythril ore unlocked in the well and are going for the first Clean ring (60% to unlock the first improvement), then you can. Or you can just keep going for regular rings 
yeah, welcome to the club 
yes, since it buff the base rate
dont think i am there yet started earlier today so been a waiting game
lost a good run..... have to wait now
First clean is money no? Or was that automatically unlocked
so its just a base 25% more then ig?
pretty sure that's auto unlocked
well its +5 base multiplied by all your buffs
Which archer class would get the most kills in the hound den, they're roughly the same level
probably sb
sb cause higher dmg
Ye sb is better also cuz no multiple platforms
i did better on bm iirc, not like its that long to do it on both and see which does better
its per 100 anyways doubt it matters aslong as you hit treshold
Thanks
its lava... could be still counting partial with a weird rounding
i assume everything counts partial
actually there's one that I know doesn't but can't remember what
some say he doesn't even understand how it works 
you reminded me of his understanding of MK XD

is the fill rate from buckets per bucket or all together?
per bucket since you could have them on different stuff
thank you
should i get notes at 100% or is it better to let it stack for hours? i couldnt figure out what is better to do
either should be fine. i suppose there's some merit to waiting if you want to roll for opals. but again, as with many things in this game, quantity of rolls > quality
it also depend on how far you are from unlocking multiple strings initially
nothing more rewarding then getting a nugget thats only 1-5% bigger 7 times in a row
You need 150 notes for the first string, and it's 1 note per 100% and % stacks to infinity
So just let it stack until 150
sure, but then you're missing out on leveling it which affects your gains
Wait really? Damn I need to claim my strings then 
so if possible always at 100% to get much exp as possible right
im currently at like 20min per 100%
Ah yes just wait 75 hours to get it, makes a lot of sense (or uh 50 hours if you get 100% evry 20 mins)
are conjurer points in gemshop better than couple of these things
i'd say so
is 2x resource boost fine or should i go to 3x
2x should be fine, remember that the value of more purchases goes down, especially since gem cost probably increases, too
ok ill get measurer 2x xp then buy out conjurer points
Can someone explain droprate thresholds to me?
higher dr = good
for the second god link in the hole, itβs enhance level 3 of pocket divinity right?
The easy (and small explanation):
- You get more money for every uneven dr -> 11x, 13x, 15x and so on
- You get more statues every y.51x dr starting roughly at 10x (depends a bit on what kind of statue) -> 10.51x = 2 statues, 11.51x = 3x statues, 12.51x = 4 statues (This would be power statues)
2nd link comes from 1 enhance in first green unlock.
Enhancing comes from 3rd blue unlock
depends on what statue? excuse me 
what is this convoluted mess
everyday we stray further and further from doot
Oh damn, i didnt know it started going crazy at that point
I wont farm statues for now then
yeah ok I got the enhance unlocked already was just wondering which level 2nd god was
Thx!
also, not the name change
was that before or after someone said that in endgame?
And just after we got mini doot
Power statues from W1 Crystals are 1 in 2 for the bag and 1 in 9 for the actual statue
Things like Speed statue is a 1 in 2 for bag and then a 1 in 15 for the actual statue
Speed Statue is rarer -> You need more dr to start scaling it. That's why different statues are harder to get

What's wrong?
It's just how my life is going 
ahh, the sense, it has been made
I just wasn't sure if it was in response to what was said in endgame
I don't even know what has been said in Endgame chat 
I think one of us is missing some critical information
Let me check the messages around that time
OHHHH
You mean Biggy?
yeah
i wasn't sure if you had changed in response to that or if they said that in response to your having changed it
You are lacking some serious information then
Today I got prescribed Estrogen 
Finally able to medically start my transition
Happy for you 
I've just also seen you change your name in response to various chat messages before so wasn't sure
That name change happened a few hours earlier 
Needed a change from the Ice Cream. Even tho I already miss it 
All hail ice cream queen 
i hate reset mechanics
Same
and trying to candy in that game, even if you cloud save everytime, fucks shit up
I almost never reset in idke skilling
i've lost so much progress on it.
Always use the tickets
too much effort 
Is there an accepted next step for opal investment after you hit 30 10 10 10?
20 engi or measurer is both fine
what in the world is an everlog
Tyvm I might lean enj then
@bleak gazelle what level in worlds 4 or 5 to have my es active in?
probably the log resource for hole when it launches
Follows the slots of other cavern resources
Gotcha
is there still a point in 2 sb
Less so
mostly depends on master classes now
Now itβs mostly to keep class equality
2 bm meta now
hopefully he doesnt shift anything cus i really dont wanna spend that many gems to change elite classes
But lava might make some free
always good to have at least one 

dxp for measurer is 780+800 for elite swap meaning i have 3000 left to buy conjurer points
thats 7 conjurer points
The change to mob spawns on thermistor map is peak
what
Thereβs no mobs on the middle platform now
so
Higher orb for domeo
domeo?
that's not thermister
are you talking about brighstide
Close enough
mfers out here with their level 700 boomerangs
371
erm thats technically impossible π€
I been using statues n stuff
Tbh even a 320 boomerang could prob hit them all
The hitbox is really big relative to the size
peak
damn
hello i'm trying grind out woodular circles on my es. Is it better to kill walking sticks or wood muchrooms?
Mood mushrooms
6th
And if you mean the multiplier measure it's highest damage
Can someone tell me why my vman is catching 51/min and my SB is only catching 39/min, same tools both have buttered food on
meant what lvl heard it was based highest damage
Ye it's level 6
sweet soon π
maybe their cards and talent presets?
Cards are the same, both have the food star talent maxed. I can't see anything that would give vman 1.5x catching speed
Whatβs the fastest way to get world 5 boss keys?
when do you do this for the bell?
what do?
Afaik when u unlock new a new bell upgrade from engineer, the + chance of getting extra levels
Once you have unlocked all the chances for multiple levels bonuses
mk thx
maybe equipment as in like their armor?
Does mining in cavern 2 have to be done active to destroy the layer?
They are both in the same tier of equip, and I don't think there is any equipment that boosts catching speed
Vman buffs the "feasty" statue, which gives boost food a higher speed
I should book this talent, holy
LOL
Omg thank you, it was driving me crazy
I'm actually impressed Vman is doing more idk if my VMan is even that well built
also i should mentioned I was just thinking of efficiency
SB is still catching more, vman is just faster
do sword rethrows let you keep prev damage
oh that's for catcing speed I'm so used to seeing it in AFK info
even though that's /hr man I'm blind af.
Maestro skill gets extra Feasty effect
id like to know what im doing wrong. strum harp, get exp, even level up the octave. and yet, no notes drop..?
Which god should I choose for 2nd pocket?
how to get enhance point in the hole again? do I need to level up the 3rd blue upgrade to get enhance point or it is another way?
Alr
Just unlocked enhanced 
That's already my first pocket god
Which god for 2nd pocket?
oh x)
harriep it is then
harp just broken or something..?
Hey under the langage options I could not find rnglish
Thereβs American English, British English, French, German, Korean, Japanese, and Chinese all correlating with their flags
Actually some of these donβt look implemented yet
Nvm, just in the afk log in menu
are you strumming with the c string
yeah. i mean it hasnt seems to work with either string. i get the exp but the past 3 times ive strung ive recieved no notes
You need at least 100% harp power to get stuff from strumming
yeah. i get exp. but no notes
Best would be a video to show the issue 
gotta wait for 100 again... but ill see if i can snap it if it happens again
You also sent me a friend request earlier today. Best to just DM me 
Lamp UI might be peak
wawa that wasnt about the question i had to ask. auivnuodsvn

just send a picture of your levels and notes
i keep getting greedy and losing in bravery 
levels and notes.
well you have 124 notes so what are you talking abt
ive been trapped at 124 the past like 3 times ive strung the harp. i cant get enough for any upgrade 
like im just not getting notes anymore
did you change your string to play D instead of C?
its playing c
thats a d
???? but it says C
the string definitely looks like a d not c, so idk
maybe just re tune it or cloud save ig
huh, TIL the strings change color too
it's def a D lol
yea
yeah, i'd just retune and cloudsave
that is not normal
yeah i guess let me restart everything and see if that fixes it
that do be unfortunate
He has broken the system
E
Ok 
no wonder my harps been halted in progress for awhile it just borked... 

harp isnt that important.... right??? 
if you only have c/d strings unlocked then just enjoy the pace you're going at 
i mean. my pace is halted and cant progress. but aight.
did a cloudsave and re-dragging C string not fix it?
no... im trying other things aghh
did you try tuning it to D then back to C?
yeah.. i did.. i had a thought. this mightve occured when i loaded up the save on mobile and swapped between the two.
like you can either tap the letter above the string or you can drag C/D from the far right and drop it on the string
definitely a possibility, especially if you didn't cloud save between moving between platforms
are you having the issue on both platforms?
i usually do but if i changed it on mobile maybe something got snagged
loading up mobile rn.
loading up on mobile and properly switching the string to how it was synced on pc has allowed me to get notes again, but theres still a visual bug im sure will randomly fix itself probably in time... the harp is functional again and i can try make up the days ive lost to it. and pray it stays functional..
can always writeup a #bug-reports-π
i know platform swapping can cause issues, but might be something that he can fix
Literally just unlocked the hole and can active overnight.. anything specific I should do or just go div XD
Iβd guess that keeping most of the people on divinity till you unlock the bear god is best and then drop most people in the hole for bravery
Has anyone noticed that lava dropped the max opals you can buy to 12
if you just unlocked it, then probably just go back to div and close the game. If you've found the 2nd villager and can get him to level 2 or 3, then you can active overnight
mine still says x/20, but also 4 per day 
For me as well 
hey if you filter obols will they auto-destroy into fragments or just not drop
So does mine. The issue is that it's still stuck at 12. I bet this was a bug originally
Letβs go gambling
full tilt every single time
you can only buy 4 a day
I'm just thinking that it's like the negative opals thing for me. I bought them when the hole came out
can ask in #endgame-gen-chat someone there would probably know
Lamp is the dumbest reset mechanic in the game whose with me
buncha whales over there 
You have gems to buy the opals and you have not bought 4 opals today?
That issue should have nothing to do with the intended negative opals
Just had nothing to buy with gems for awhile.
Is it better to wait for 2x rewards in Bravery?
I think the lamp needs upgrades to make it worth wasting like 5 days of wishes
Nah, if you get 2x rewards it just means that you couldβve done 2 stories aka one more day with buffs active for that day
You could get lucky with great buffs being doubled but afaik right now its not advised to wait a day
does anyone know what comes after the lamp?
So I should do it instantly or 1.5x then?
I don't think the real timer is 24 hours on that. I could swear I've been doing it earlier and earlier each day



