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[celest abyss]

How match damage should i do with dk to defeat katlekruk

[last sonnet]

Ayo if anybody wonders what Bravery 750h is - i just unlocked it it is +1 additional sword

[thorny silo]

If you see this, I dont have upgrade Lava speaks of in his post

[teal lynx]

No idea then, sorry

[thorny silo]

Opal vanished into the abyss I guess

[teal lynx]

Took another look at the post and your screenshot and the upgrade is not the problem here. The problem was having more than 5 opals -> So if you had gotten 6 opals he removed one from the bravery
Obviously no idea how many you had before the patch

[thorny silo]

So weird, I got no idea how many total I had in Monument before i just logged in, clicked Harp, got 1 Opal and then went to camp and zero in inventory lol

[stuck river]

How do I acquire a massive amount of breezy souls for equipment? I get 2.5m per full worship and it takes 20 days to fill up...

[sinful aurora]

Get better skulls. Level up your call me pope bubble. Get a better td score. Dont forget to use soul food.

[stuck river]

Guess I'll wait 20 days

[solar drift]

just focus on this bubble

and you will be good

[stuck pumice]

I've needed to get souls for like 4 months now because I'm too lazy to swap like 3 things on each character, which has resulted in me losing way more than if I just harvested and had no bonuses..

[stuck river]

crab

yippee i love redoing traps

[solar drift]

just get it to 100m for atom range

and level it up a bit, it give you more charge per day than you think

[stuck river]

fair ill redo my traps later

hopefully i can get full godshrd on dk in 2 weeks

[charred cosmos]

To unlock bravery, do i have to swap back in exactly 1 hour or more than 1 hour is fine?

[solar seal]

must be more than an hour. anything less is ignored. don't risk it, wait til 1:01 - don't claim at 1:00

but anything more than 1 hr at the bravery npc is fine

[charred cosmos]

oh so i have to afk at the bravery npc with another character?

[solar seal]

Why doesn’t the Bravery NPC want to talk to me? I did what he asked?
Bravery (acts like Fractal Island in W2) where afk time is ignored until you have accrued at least 1 full uninterrupted hour.
To get started on the quest, you must leave at least 1 character at the Bravery NPC, for the full hour uninterrupted in ONE afk claim.

Once you are progressing on Bravery, all subsequent time after the first hour is rounded down to nearest whole hour. So you ideally want to claim AFK time if you are just past an hour (2:03 rounds to 2 hrs) or alternatively wait a few minutes if you are just short an hour (wait 3 min if you are 4:57 to get full 5 hrs).

[stuck river]

LMAO

[charred cosmos]

alright champ thanks for your understanding

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/sheep-claymation-clay-animation-das-thumbs-up-gif-20534917

[light prawn]

whats a 'monument bonus'?

just unlocked this guy and idk where i should put the point into

[prisma grail]

Cave 4, the Bravery Bonuses

[light prawn]

is it worth afking on multiple cahrs for 1 hour?

just figured out how it works

[prisma grail]

Kinda, you have to balance between Divinity and Lab as well, unless you have Doot/are post lv 40 Div.

[minor cargo]

I heard some people talking about the Motherlode and progressing in the Hole suddenly making their efficiency there much worse, is there a trap I need to avoid?

[prisma grail]

It's related to the Bonus per mined stone ^10 on Cave 2...
But I would not worry too much about that, very small increment, and you scale better with Opals, specially because you want to unlock Cave 4~7 as fast as possible.

[minor cargo]

Okay thanks

[wraith mantle]

Where's the reset opal button for the new cave/hole

[nova crow]

Ik we can see divinity xp, but can we see divinity points gained?

[velvet wave]

hi. how to unlock the harp ?

[fast merlin]

placed shrines in hole and they disappeared after awhile

[peak verge]

explore

[velvet wave]

ok ty

[terse verge]

Because hole is w5, so long as you keep the lab note lit up - you can safely keep shrines in w5 town

[terse verge]

Not a “simple button” - c7 has ability to reset for its currency

[verbal nacelle]

Does anyone know if the harp has any special mechanic around chords? Or are the notes just totally independent?

[terse verge]

Lava isnt that clever - dont need to do any real music theory

[verbal nacelle]

What a waste.

That could have been really neat.

[terse verge]

It would be a bit unfair to those not musically inclined - but it would have been neat but also a nightmare to code

How does the harp work?
Once you have at least 100% Harp power, drag your mouse/finger across strings as if you are playing a harp to make 🎶

[verbal nacelle]

Yeah, it could have been its own mechanic, rather than a footnote in the hole. Oh well. Maybe someday.

[near escarp]

oh ok

[wraith mantle]

@terse verge c7?

[terse verge]

Cavern 7 - the lamp

[fast sedge]

I can't activate bravery, how do I activate it?

[prisma grail]

You afk in the C4

You need a minimum of 1 hour to start it

Also AFK rates in C4 is are static values of 1h, if you claim 59 minutes you will not gain any Respect., just be aware of this as well.

[fast sedge]

I'm leaving and entering after 1 hour on a different map

[terse verge]

Why doesn’t the Bravery NPC want to talk to me? I did what he asked?
Bravery (acts like Fractal Island in W2) where afk time is ignored until you have accrued at least 1 full uninterrupted hour.
To get started on the quest, you must leave at least 1 character at the Bravery NPC, for the full hour uninterrupted in ONE afk claim.

Once you are progressing on Bravery, all subsequent time after the first hour is rounded down to nearest whole hour. So you ideally want to claim AFK time if you are just past an hour (2:03 rounds to 2 hrs) or alternatively wait a few minutes if you are just short an hour (wait 3 min if you are 4:57 to get full 5 hrs).

[wraith mantle]

Thanks

[minor cargo]

At very early gaming levels (pre-sprinkler) should I be waiting for plants to evolve before picking them or pick everything ASAP?

[terse verge]

Just pick them asap. Early on your speed/evo chance is low that its not worth waiting - you are better off just getting the bits

[minor cargo]

Perfect, thank you

[jade fossil]

Monument might be one of the most broken and best mechanics ever

[nova crow]

No 400 gems for sprinkler?

Does the hole require characters to be AFK there or is there something I can do to "start" it and let it run? My chars need to sit in div

[craggy willow]

Each cave has its own mechanism. Like, you don't need any char around for The Well or The Bell, you need a char around for Motherlode or Bravery.

[simple bramble]

where can i find the hole guide..?

[sick sentinel]

#1084911530417606656

[clever tundra]

Do the bravery stories build up if you don't use them, or do you only get one per time period whether you use it or not

[craggy willow]

Bravery goes on a 20 hour cooldown when you use

[clever tundra]

dang ok, makes sense

[proven basin]

whats the difference between 1/2 and 2/2 pocket divinity?

[craggy willow]

An extra god link for your whole team

Or an extra +15% stats if you own Doot

[proven basin]

so its basically 3 links now?

are the links changable?

[craggy willow]

Yes, it looks like you can change the pocket divinity ones at any time

[haughty badger]

how do i unlock the 4th villager The measurer

[proven basin]

aight ty

[craggy willow]

Explore more, the measurer is in cave 7

[terse verge]

You wont gain more story attempts with time but you will build up a reward multi to not be punished for not running it every 20hr

[graceful fern]

Do harp have a power limit?

Or whatever it is called, its the percentage one

[proud citrus]

any tips to make these 6 million mole kills quicker?

[simple wadi]

If there is, it's pretty high. I had 2600% power when I woke up this morning

[craggy willow]

Link to the x2 kills god, activate the x2 kills lab node

[simple wadi]

Stick more people on it

[proud citrus]

only my main is that far, i do have the lab and divinty on for it

[formal folio]

the bucket fill rate is per bucket or overall fill rate for all buckets combined?

[proud citrus]

per bucket

[formal folio]

ok good

[proud citrus]

it gets crazy ngl

[craggy willow]

Also put points into the kills for kills talent, you can reset it later on

[formal folio]

I'm already at crazy (low)

[proud citrus]

maxed that too, so its just gonna take a couple days

[craggy willow]

If you are in a hurry, throw some candy at it

[pallid cedar]

is there any way to lower the amplifers in the dawg den

[formal folio]

hold click it

[terse verge]

Click to select - long hold - release and it’ll revert to 0

[pallid cedar]

oh thanks

[golden apex]

YIPPPEEEEE

what class do i got tho I got 2 Dk's 2 Es' and every other class

its my 10th character

[nova lynx]

I was out the first few days and think I had like 5k% when I got on

[bleak gazelle]

general suggestion was 2nd SB, but I think that's lost some merit due to the forge cap you can get from hole, you may want to wait until master classes are out, though getting a third archer still probably isn't a bad idea.
Regardless of what you do, make sure you have that character go touch alchemy, construction, and all the other town skills at least once

[golden apex]

should i just do a wheel of the ones i dont have a double of and maestro

and whichever it picks i use

[bleak gazelle]

you don't have maestro? or you thinking of getting a 2nd?

[golden apex]

i do i mean

like da ones i have a double of and the maestro i wont add

[nova crow]

What would older players even do if the meta changes because of master classes

[golden apex]

the other sentences were so confusing even for me

[bleak gazelle]

only thing we could do is elite swap

[nova crow]

You can do that?

[golden apex]

[golden apex]

10/10 picture

[graceful fern]

Theres one in limited shop right now, but hopefully when master class arrive, lava atleast gave us 1 free swap

[golden apex]

i love the editing, added a HOLE ton of context

get it

[bleak gazelle]

anyway. SB was recommended as last slot because it would be your third archer (rounding out 3 of each base class) and it gets damage more easily which made maxing out your forge progress talent easier to help with bar smelting (godshard primarily)

due to a buff in the Hole which increases forge capacity dramatically, godshard isn't a problem anymore

[golden apex]

ty imma go SB

[graceful fern]

I hope lava made hunter path broken again with master class

[teal lynx]

Hopefully it's much clearer now

[bleak gazelle]

So you can

• go SB
• go archer and wait for archer master class to decided which subclass route to take
• go beginner and wait for all masters to be out

[golden apex]

i cant tell what it is i think its pointing to the obols though

[zinc torrent]

Instructions unclear, bought the lantern instead.

[golden apex]

Instructions unclear, i installed tf2 and got every item in one hour

[teal lynx]

The 1 gem lanterns are good. Good choice

[zinc torrent]

Even Bill's hat? Holy cow!

[golden apex]

oh god, please help

[zinc torrent]

I'd get a second SB like everybody.

[golden apex]

i cant think of anything

[zinc torrent]

Pick a super long one so that quest in W2 where you need to pick items according to your name's length is extra fun.

[golden apex]

lemme pull up my other characters names rq

probably wont help with the name but i need suggestions because this server goes crazy on the names

[bleak gazelle]

@gentle path i'd expand your bars. you get bucket fill rate from this engineer schematic

[zinc torrent]

Is there a character limit? Start inputting to see.

As in a name can be how long? 20 characters?

[golden apex]

14 cap

[gentle path]

Gotcha, ya oxi seems to be about 11hrs away, the other one 30ish

[proud citrus]

man i am so wise, i just killed minibosses and got keys that way. screw this 6 mil kills lol ill come back for that

[half helm]

anyone else have the problem that re trows just get skipped at the end ?

[dreamy merlin]

did you name the he_beluckytho that because it started with the luck star sign?

[golden apex]

he was gonna be a maestro but i got to lazy...

also name already chosen

[terse verge]

The quest doesnt prevent nor unlocks keys - its just to tell you you can kill them for keys. The miniboss is easiest way for keys quickly

[proud citrus]

oh lmao

ty

wow i dont think i do enough damage

[teal lynx]

You can only re-throw the sword you have last thrown. So don't spam click all swords, but do them 1 by 1

If you don't like the damage your sword did you re-throw

The re-throw will automatically be skipped if the sword has no chance of succeeding the battle

[dreamy merlin]

what is your class and dmg

[terse verge]

Check pins for our recommendations

[proud citrus]

dk

[half helm]

Pain. Pure Pain. 2,4x on 2k max DMG swords

[teal lynx]

It's better to be a coward than to lose everything

[terse verge]

Spec recommendation since you have roughly enough dmg https://i.imgur.com/o9Kt2Xu.png

[half helm]

You dont say...

i missed my enemie by 10hp

[proud citrus]

wow the accuracy one is big, i didnt realize his accuracy requirement is so low compared the w5 mobs

wish you could reset just one page of talents

[dreamy merlin]

i just missed mine by 28

[teal lynx]

Oh wow. Is the hp in tab 2 really better than the extra stats per equipment talent?

Damn that's interesting.

The stats from Equipment definitely get WAY better than the hp later on

[golden apex]

do you get 4x portal progress if you have 2 nobisects active

[teal lynx]

Nobi is only for the person that is connected to it. However Nobi + the lab bonus allow you to get 4x kills

[dreamy merlin]

anybody know a good guild i could join i got kicked out of previous one because i forgot to say anything when i took a break

[proven flame]

Best way to farm Hampters? I have 6x and my ES gets like maybe 5 an hour

[dreamy merlin]

i could ask to join back but that takes too long

[proud citrus]

i just dont do enough damage the moles make it to the boss a lot and overheal the damage i did

i need the next weapon i think

[dreamy merlin]

that could be enough with proper talents

[proud citrus]

well i did the talents in the pic and frankly my damage went down

[obsidian briar]

Sheesh

[dreamy merlin]

then you missed something

[proud citrus]

nope

[dreamy merlin]

or its just because you put more into skills which will mean more damage total

[wide rune]

how does the herp work

[dreamy merlin]

read the pins

[timber oasis]

Whats the best way to level well generation? My engineer leveling too quickly for me lol

[carmine frigate]

Probably that one hound upgrade

[timber oasis]

I think Im just about capped on that. Might can squeeze a lil more out

[peak verge]

Again with the daylight savings delay?

[rugged prawn]

Damn I really messed up that story / adventure thing the last few days, I assume I am screwed as so far behind now

[peak verge]

Not really.

[solar drift]

@teal lynx 1:45h sufferng

finally

[teal lynx]

I assume the bits from the hole made it pretty easy for you :P

[solar drift]

a bit ye

shorten it down more than i though with not a lots of level in it

nvm i actually have 24 lvl in gaming bit gain xd

well thx to finish it, i could click 450x bubble just now

dont have more atom for the last baron upgrade

[teal brook]

best diviniti comination for my 10 chars any ideas? i just got past the 9 char lock in W6 and not started with anything from the new update

[teal lynx]

Depends on what you need
Arctis, Snake, Goat when sampling is best
A good overall setup is Arctis, Harriep, Omniphau

[solar drift]

you might want goat harpier omni, because i doubt you have 2100 lab level

else xaya setup is the way to go

[teal lynx]

People on Nobi might be good if you are still pushing. One person on Purrmep if you are doing divinity

[teal brook]

i got 3200 lab level

[solar drift]

nvm

didnt know your roster commited crime

[teal brook]

crime syndicate was afk for 6weeks in lab when i got bored of no updates lol so just got back

[solar drift]

i feel sry for them

[teal brook]

some on harriep sitting in lab for sample gains 1 on nubi to push all w6 then rest on arctis or omni? +1 on purrmep?

[solar drift]

ok so if you dont need lab / divinity right now, primary link is artics

[teal brook]

then what do i throw my guys to do?=

[solar drift]

most likely just bravery jail/motherlode and take out the char that you need to do autoreview task

[teal brook]

bravery jail? the new cavern stuff?

[solar drift]

also why did you filter grass leaf

[teal brook]

no idea when lol

[solar drift]

idk if you are lacking atom or not, but we get lots of buff here for efficiency so you can resample

[peak verge]

Adequate.

[teal brook]

not now since i was afk for so long but atoms deffo a place to improve but ima atleast use a week or 2 to get everything running again before resample

is there a cavern guide somewhere?

[solar drift]

pin

start hole now and read it while doing it,

from the buff so far that i remember is this + 600% max multi instead of 300%

[teal brook]

8 on arctis + my SB n nubi to push and +1 purrmep? is that fine

[solar drift]

es should take purrmep

with the hole everyone have up to 3 links and es up to 4

what you can do is also arctics the sb

[teal brook]

ok so all on arctis then except SB and ES on purrmep?

[solar drift]

and with the 2 extra link you use Harpier + Omni/Nobi/etc

[teal brook]

oh so dont push rn? that 2x kills is really nice if i want to

[solar drift]

so if you want to afk claim on other character you can use sb and swap the nobi to omni before claiming

[stiff river]

what next?

[peak verge]

real link - all arctis, 2nd es on purrmep (this es poly's to bear)
1st pocket - harriep
2nd pocket - as needed
1st es poly can be whatever you want

[solar drift]

is a meme choose from lava ignore this

[peak verge]

LOL

[solar drift]

example how it looks like xd

[stiff river]

is this for me?

[peak verge]

for shiro

[stiff river]

ok

[solar drift]

if you dont have doot max out this

then

i would recommend putting 1 point to 4 and 3 (my opinion) then max 1 2

[teal brook]

i could be stupid but i understood a whole 0 from the hole guide i just got overloaded lol any tips?

[solar drift]

start invest opal to the villager

the explorer guy will unlock new cavern for you, where you can get more opal to invest

more opal = more xp, but you want to do in a interval of 10 because of a upgrade

[peak verge]

read them one at a time in order

[tropic crystal]

The sword rethrows only counting for the last sword is wack, it's not said anywhere that's how that works

[proud citrus]

why did this happen?

[teal brook]

should i remove rock layer`?

[solar drift]

#💖future-content-blog

[solar drift]

you canrethrow for every sword, just wait until the animation end

so if you first sword throw a 90, wait a bit

then you can rethrow

[proud citrus]

boooo

[tropic crystal]

I had 5 sword respins and they only let me use 1 on the last sword and I lost a bunch of upgrades

[solar drift]

yes and i just told you how it actually works

[proud citrus]

bro didnt read

[peak verge]

it's on the last sword you use, not the last sword you have available

[rich stratus]

lets fricking go
finally

[proud citrus]

bravery requires patience

[tropic crystal]

I get it, that's dumb though, you should be able to spin them all then respin after

[proud citrus]

i should also be a billionaire

[peak verge]

gambling go brr

[proud citrus]

alas

[solar drift]

happens, now you know

[stiff river]

ok tysm

[solar drift]

is a marathon, you will get there

[teal brook]

is there a schematic prio if there is i cant find it

should i also use silver or gold stopwatches? i got 400silver and 5 gold

[terse verge]

You can pretty much buy out everything in time before you get your next engi level

So hard to “prio”

[teal brook]

so i should give explorer 10opals before any to engi?

[terse verge]

You should give all your villagers at least 1 so they can slowly gain xp. Generally getting explorer to 10 first is a pretty good idea but 10 in engi eventually is also useful

[worldly wigeon]

Anyone know if golden stopwatches have an effect on wishes?

[dreamy merlin]

im not even close to being able to do that yet

bfr too slow

[short sparrow]

Just lost a huge run because I wasn't allowed to rethrow any of my five swords

That's incredibly sick.

[dreamy merlin]

you can rethrow a sword after you threw another one

[obsidian briar]

Still lake + those who know sigma poppy kangaroo 💀 explanation in comments

[short sparrow]

clicked all 5 swords, didn't kill boss, "rethrow" flashed for half a second and then the run ended

[dreamy merlin]

because it knows that one sword rethrowing cant get enough damage to win

[obsidian briar]

Now you know what mistake not to make

Also there was this one time uh uh uhhh I forgot

Also how increase sword Damage PLEASEE PIT SO SUFFER = SIGMA

[dreamy merlin]

one of the schematics gives +1 min +10 max per 6 hours at bravery

[obsidian briar]

Oh wow that will actually me really useful

Be*

[short sparrow]

You'd think after six worlds I'd know that Idleon is terrible at explaining how its mechanics work but that's on me

[solar drift]

You have to throw, wait until it say rethrow

Then decide to rethrow or not

[obsidian briar]

Lava needs to make the guides in codex again

[solar drift]

if you click all 5 you can only reroll the last one, but that don’t work because after the 5th throw the fight end by either you win or lose

[obsidian briar]

People just don't know how to use common sense, especially when it comes to the 4th cavern

[solar drift]

[teal brook]

does score matter for the den if i got all 5 opals or can i get as many as possibel?

[solar drift]

den?

where the hounds are?

Or the motherlode

[teal brook]

hounds

[graceful fern]

Yeah, but do people actually read it tho? I certainly do

[obsidian briar]

I don't tbh

[peak verge]

You can get a lot more than 5 opals.

[teal brook]

ok then il optimize i just ran it as BB with 0 setup lol

[peak verge]

💀

[dreamy merlin]

what made you think 5 was the max

[teal brook]

since 5 a day max at overload

this hole shii makes 0m sense atm ngl

[graceful fern]

When im bored doing active or something I just open up codex and start to read it. Its only into w4 tho

[dreamy merlin]

if you learn to read its simple

[peak verge]

den has nothing to do with motherlode

[graceful fern]

I feel like this community doesnt lack people that can read and understand something. But instead they are just lazy and impatience to read properly

[teal brook]

correct

[solar drift]

do you know how many people read the bravery line and then leave the map, come back after an hour and complain it didn’t work?

Or afk for 30 min on 2 different character

[peak verge]

Hole since release.

[terse verge]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-jeong-community-too-small-to-read-read-reading-gif-6829192445099620272

[solar drift]

when it say „swap character“ „come back in 1 hour on the same character“

[peak verge]

preach tony

[solar drift]

You are not wrong btw, is just people legit can’t read sometime

[graceful fern]

Yeah thats actually a problem, i did the same mistake by just leaving the map and come back with diff char after 1 hour, but when it fail I read it again and understand it now

[solar drift]

Worst part is always you answered that 1 questions, 1 sec later another guy ask the same question below your answer

[graceful fern]

They just dont want to actually learn from their own mistake and instead rely on other experience

Also who is Tony?

[solar drift]

The guy who can read

[dreamy merlin]

some random guy ig, i mean their name is just tony

[graceful fern]

The myth the legend itself?

[severe perch]

what do you guys get here?

[graceful fern]

Bucket

[teal brook]

tips for defense cant seem to get over 37K on my DK with no prayers active

[solar drift]

did you remove prayer that reduce your defense

[severe perch]

still bucket lvl?

[teal brook]

yes i have no active

[graceful fern]

Uhh, he already says no prayer active

[solar drift]

ah wops

[teal brook]

should i sac some dmg cards for defense cards 1500T dmg

[graceful fern]

Truly a legend of idleon player

[solar drift]

then just bubble mostly

[solar drift]

it was a automatic reply

[teal brook]

300 K seems to be max unlesss i want to sac all my dmg ik i have gotten around 300k before when optimizng only for defense tho

[graceful fern]

I personally choose bucket but idk about other choice tho

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/kawaii-gif-22571722

[teal brook]

https://tenor.com/view/whale-gold-degenz-nft-degenznft-gif-22268095

new pack worth slurping up?

[dreamy merlin]

very

but i refuse to buy anything other than autoloot

[graceful fern]

That thing is cracked and cheaper too

[teal brook]

should i throw in some of the other 4k gem packs to buy up the new oddities gem upgrades?

[dreamy merlin]

they are very useful upgrade so if you wish to do so

[teal brook]

yeah dont have any other packs so buy already have em all

[old edge]

Anyone got the snail chart?

[onyx gazelle]

Should I only focus on captains with speed, or how many loot value captains should I get?

[surreal cloak]

are the Oddities high in priority compared to the rest of the gem shop?

[dreamy merlin]

i would say so, not highest but pretty good

[onyx gazelle]

I'm def looking at getting some conjure points when I can farm up the gems

[dreamy merlin]

been spending every gem i can on those

[surreal cloak]

not yet sure where to invest the conjuring points best

[junior dune]

I would wait for the snail hole bonus

[dreamy merlin]

from what ive seen for non dooters its get the first green, then first 3 blue, then max first green, then max first blue and 2nd blue apparently

[old edge]

O.o

Well RIP too late for that

next time

[surreal cloak]

yea omniphau+harriep is pretty big

[dreamy merlin]

exactly what ive been using since im lazy and just doing bravery, and arctis for 3rd god

[surreal cloak]

3rd god, as in, their own link?

[dreamy merlin]

yea

[north condor]

Can someone explain how I am in opal debt

[teal lynx]

#💖future-content-blog -> For your negative opals

[dreamy merlin]

do you just have that copied becuase of how many people are asking

[devout reef]

How do i increase the amount?

[steady spruce]

buy the upgrade

[north condor]

😦

[teal lynx]

Nope. But I can just right click the channel and copy link or quickly write #f and click it

[dreamy merlin]

oh yea

[teal lynx]

Negative opals are actually good for you. So don't sweat it

[dreamy merlin]

what do you mean by that

[north condor]

Maybe I’m not the smartest but how

[pliant ferry]

It's an interest free loan

[teal lynx]

You invested more opals than you should have -> More xp

[north condor]

I don’t like debt

To much like irl

[pliant ferry]

Get debt, invest and get more than you need to return. Just like IRL

[junior dune]

*Assuming the debt is free

[pliant ferry]

^ and in Lava Land. Debt is free lol

[junior dune]

Xaya, what is your bit multi at? I'm pushing gaming a bit again with the hole bonus and got curious

[teal lynx]

2.23e32

[teal lynx]

24 snail, 890m nug, 72 plants, 285 gaming level and lvl 31 (nearly 32) shell

[junior dune]

Oh that is a big nugget

[teal lynx]

My latest upgrade after... 60k nugs?

[junior dune]

Will try to get my log book complete one day but want like 0.3 min cycles or something for that to be relatively quick

[junior dune]

Got an upgrade from 151m -> 171m after 14k nuggets

[nova crow]

Do you have to wait for whole hours for divinity?

[teal lynx]

In the beginning, yes
Later, no

[nova crow]

Got it, thanks

[teal lynx]

1 xp / points per hour -> 60 minutes minimum
2 xp / points per hour -> 30 minutes minimum
3 xp / points per hour -> 20 minutes minimum
And so on

[nova crow]

Makes sense, appreciate it

[daring prism]

I just bought snail, do you know if I get 1 mail per day or do I need to upgrade it again first?

[teal lynx]

You get 1 mail per day

Every upgrade then gives you a chance for 2 mail (or 3 mail if you are above 100% chance)

[stiff river]

no way i am still top 50% only 💀

[surreal cloak]

So the pocket div is basically Harriep+omni, right?

[stiff river]

at what points is 25%?

[crimson thistle]

tome points

[stiff river]

ty

[strong shale]

@teal lynx at what point will you go for 25 snail?

[teal lynx]

Probably not for another few months. I want way a way higher bonus from the hole buff

[strong shale]

What does the hole buff give ?

Im assuming better success chance but

[teal lynx]

Yeah better success chance. Saw 1.20x higher chance at best for now, but that should change with some new hole caverns and time

[simple wadi]

I just hit 22 snail yesterday =3

[buoyant valley]

750hrs for 1 sword >.>

[dreamy merlin]

watch the 24k be +1 rethrow

[buoyant valley]

only 1 way to find out

[strong shale]

Around the same damageish as me and i have the 6 swords

Im hella pushing bucket bc im dumb and fixate on 1 thing but the others (mining eff/cooking) arent really a ton to me rn

[pliant ferry]

Those last few points get so hard to get

[empty wharf]

Ey I've unlock arctis. Just wondering what's the strat? Will they return all to lab or 50/50 lab and divinity?

[dreamy merlin]

arctis gives a reason to not be in lab wdym

just put everyone on arctis and leave them on div

[empty wharf]

Oh right XD.

[lusty thunder]

hit 1k

[onyx sphinx]

Do i do bravery at the 20hr mark or wait for reward multiplier?

[empty wharf]

Btw how does ES double linking work?

[dreamy merlin]

look in the pins

[sinful bear]

Ok... how do I refill the well in the cavern? Gravel is at 1/100 and won't give anymore and won't reset? I assume I'm dumb... but i don't get it lol

[bleak gazelle]

did you set your buckets to gravel?

[dreamy merlin]

at the start its slow and you just get 10/hr

assuming you set the bucket to gravel

[teal lynx]

The bar goes up and not down. 1/100 means you have 1 gravel and can get 99 more

[sinful bear]

So do I have to afk their or what? Cause it's set to gravel and after I got the "expand full bars" upgrade i am always at 1/100

[bleak gazelle]

shouldn't have to. cloud save if you haven't already after buying the upgrade

[teal lynx]

I haven't heard anyone report that yet, but are you afking on the player select screen? -> See screenshot
Or is your game actively running?

[zinc palm]

just made it to world 5 (finally 🎉)
anything new or important i should focus on or do i just go back to trying to push again?

[dreamy merlin]

everyone but pusher on div

and do the volcano guys questline to get started on w5 skills

[hollow palm]

How am I supposed to progress on the harp, it is still at 0 notes after a few hours.

[zinc palm]

from labratory to divinity,,, this game got some fire gameplay

[teal lynx]

Swipe your finger / mouse across the strings

[dreamy merlin]

yep

[hollow palm]

Does that work on a mac?

[teal lynx]

I won't be answering that question

[dreamy merlin]

i would hope so?

[hollow palm]

It seems to not be working for me

on a mac or web, so I assume I am doing something wrong

[dreamy merlin]

are you holding click while swiping

[hollow palm]

nevermind, I was doing it across the harp stirngs, not the upper strings

[dreamy merlin]

[teal lynx]

That was an actual question
I fully thought you meant that as a joke

[slender spire]

In what i should put the point now?

[dreamy merlin]

im not really sure but i think the first blue one

or get 1 in the first 2 red things

probably wait for a better opinion

[slender spire]

Ok 🙂

[rugged oyster]

@dapper prism for your guide, 750h in bravery gives +1 sword :)

[fallen flax]

Just finally hit 22 snail. Got 57 more mail. How should I approach 23? Or should I just grind it out for the final superbit upgrade?

[dapper prism]

idk what happened with the guide, but it seems a few various things randomly changed back.

[dreamy merlin]

obviously just gamble it without upgrading the chance

[dapper prism]

you dont approach it.. progress in hole, wait for schematic.

[noble willow]

Anyone know what the "Highest Damage" refers to on the Measurements guy lv 6? Like, how you might increase that value?

[dapper prism]

play on pc, was bugged, read #💖future-content-blog

[noble willow]

hmmm... It wasn't related to that I thought.

Yeah, not related to that.

[dapper prism]

Ah guess he didnt write the 2nd bug fix, the dmg was the 2nd fix on that patch

[noble willow]

ah

So if look at it on mobile it should show correctly? Or is it just bugged for now?

[dapper prism]

Mobile is never right

Mobile never works properly.

[noble willow]

Ok, so browser?

[dapper prism]

Mobile is always slow since patches need permission from google/apple.

Either web or PC

[noble willow]

I'm using steam so... I'm just trying to figure out what the bonus is linked to when it says highest damage.

[dapper prism]

Just, highest damage, doing the most dmg you can anywhere.
If you're on steam and it still capped at 10dmg you just didnt update the game since yesterday night

[dreamy merlin]

the highest damage youve ever dealt in 1 hit

[noble willow]

ah, ok. ty

[fallen flax]

Okay. Thank you. I didn’t know there was a snail buff.

[dapper prism]

You unlock it at ||engineer 12||

||https://i.imgur.com/p42DNRg.png||

[fallen flax]

I’m at 5 right now, but the wait is probably still faster than trying to gamble it, lol

[dapper prism]

risk of resetting, wasting mail on fails, etc. all not worth it

[dreamy merlin]

wdym my advice is amazing

you could theoretically get it in just 9 mails

[fallen flax]

Not with my luck. I had over 100 mail to start with, lol

[peak verge]

You're fucking with me rn

[timber oasis]

What does buying that 150 note thing on harp give?

[dreamy merlin]

he teach note

[bleak gazelle]

[empty cobalt]

Random question: did NBLB lvl req’s get dropped? Or is it still needing to hit lvl 5

[timber oasis]

I mean 😅 Is it the notes after E?

[bleak gazelle]

2-1499 is the NBLB range. Was an undocumented change when the Sacred Methods gemshop bundle launched

[empty cobalt]

Oh shit really? So lvl 2 now is what affects

Thank you

[velvet wave]

hi, i unlocked CDE now in the Harp and i wonder what i should do. i got 3 strings. idk exactly what E do but it seems that i dont need notes anymore from C so it makes sense to go for E E E?

[strong socket]

Dang it. If you swap characters to quickly after loging in for motherload mine then it might not register how much they mined. Missed 100m ore mines

[peak verge]

It's not about swapping too quickly, it's about picking up the stuff you mined.

[velvet wave]

u need to collect them

[sharp mirage]

Are we able to reset conjurer bonuses in the hole?

[strong socket]

[sharp mirage]

@strong shale How are we able to reset conjurer bonuses, I put all my points in Idleon Majik

[strong shale]

Cavern 7

[bleak gazelle]

You do want to level E for the bonus, but notes from C depends on you unlocking new note types from the npc in the harp ui

[ancient patrol]

Hey i just reached world 5 and are mine stats ok for world 5?

[old edge]

does renew the bell increase in cost every time?

[bleak gazelle]

Out of curiosity, how long have you been playing and can you share your IE/IT?

[ancient patrol]

What a IE/IT

[bleak gazelle]

!ie

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger

[bleak gazelle]

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[strong shale]

Ive heard it does

[ancient patrol]

Ah ok i been playing for like 2 months am a pay to win person

[old edge]

thanks I figured

[ancient patrol]

Ye so what armor should i be wearing for world 5

[strong shale]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[rich stratus]

which class is best for rift tears
dk?

[velvet wave]

Ok so im gonna use E Till i Need C again for Upgrades ty

[strong shale]

I used dk, could use bubo for more spawns too

[solar seal]

technically ES is best due to their ability to pump DR as the tear is ~1:1k drop

[jolly talon]

[rich stratus]

okay thanks yall

[solar seal]

#💖future-content-blog message

[tame copper]

anyone got any poing tips?

[solar seal]

no concrete evidence any of this actually helps but helps w/ the mental breakdown if/when lag occurs:
a) low pop server
b) no/low spawn map (i like kanga/owl)
c)

[simple wadi]

Don't do it and find happiness in your life.

[dusk geyser]

i have -1 as well!

[pliant ferry]

Just got 2x cake recipe drops 😐

[brave fable]

when would i start grinding at citringe/wurms for ghampters

[bleak gazelle]

what's your crystal chance at?

[brave fable]

1/70 13x dr

ive done it for some hours so far but only have 200

[bleak gazelle]

well, if you've started onyx statues then you're fine for ghmapters, you'll get plenty of boss keys to use, too, so not a bad thing

could work on other DR first then

cards/obols

[brave fable]

my obols are maxed for dr so far

[brave fable]

i havent started onyx in w5

ive onyxed part of w1

[hearty shore]

Is it worth buying the conjure points in gem shop?

[dreamy merlin]

very

[hearty shore]

max it out?

[dreamy merlin]

yea

[formal folio]

max log book in gaming is 63 right?

[strong shale]

72

I believe

[formal folio]

i got 7 of each plant

there's not enough space for 9 more...

[bleak gazelle]

[midnight shadow]

Hello my highest dnmg buff is not working wht can I do to fix it

[junior dune]

You get another row?

[junior dune]

There's a patch for that on PC. Will come to mobile soon

[formal folio]

and the suffering continues...

[terse verge]

Make sure you are on most updated version. There was a hotfix today

[solar drift]

always these tryhard having idleon on 24/7 smh

cant be me fr fr

[slender lantern]

What’s the current strategy for the bell at the hole?

And the summoner upgrades? Is there a best way to do it?

[solar drift]

suffer with cleanse bell and pray you hit it first time

if you succeed the 60% you get 2nd improvement method which speed up cleanse bell

with that you can get the 3rd whcih will make your ring bell goes even faster

[slender lantern]

Haha okay, thank you!

That’s super helpful, thank you!

[solar drift]

and this upgrade also give you a huge boost

[solar drift]

thats how you can improve the speed and if you havent started it at all you should go the second bell first (the green one)

get 2 easy opal

[strong shale]

Oh shit okay i needa clean my bell then

[solar drift]

if you get the first 60% wait for the engineer upgrade that are next to the one i underlined

[strong shale]

I dun wanna

[solar drift]

the broom with bell

👍

[stuck river]

How much opals did you invest?

[solar drift]

right now mine is 30-10-7-10

[stuck river]

Oh right you can re invest

[solar drift]

i will get to 30-10-10-10 then 30-20-10-10

[stuck river]

I think mine is 19-10-10..?

[tribal vessel]

any guide how to set up my pet for more spice ?

[solar drift]

#1303887857324265514 message last sheet

[stuck river]

How much exp on 10 opal villagers tho

[copper night]

do you need to have lots of super chows to have a chance at maxing meals?

or is just farming/summoning (and now hole) enough to get enough speed?

[solar drift]

i literally dont know what opal villager mean

you mean explorer villager ?

[stuck river]

Just 10 opals invested

[solar drift]

you will never have enough speed

at some point you will let nmlb do the rest

[solar drift]

15.5k~

[stuck river]

I’m at 7k😭

Scratch that I’m at 10.4k

[lunar notch]

i have a question if you put the first difficulty multiplier on max with the hell hounds can you turn it down?

[bleak gazelle]

select the stone the long click on it

[lunar notch]

thx

[solar drift]

any reason why i insta die at den with sb ?

[errant pond]

Damage set too high so they just instakill you?

[solar drift]

right i guess so, my dk had twice the defense

ok that was it

[vocal flower]

How do I actually do anything with the harp in the hole? I have 400% charge but nothing does anything

Do I need to have that rock mined for it?

[solar drift]

click and drag either left or right

[ancient hound]

Do we know what the 4th wish is yet?

[dire marsh]

the statue man wants me to wait for how many hours? i was active for 2 hours didnt work came back today after 16 hours of afk still doesnt work?????

[mellow kraken]

literally how

nvm i just saw lava's post

[sick sentinel]

are you talking about monument? its like divinity where you have to set characters afk there for a minnimum of 1 hr (rn it only counts the whole hour not partial)

[solar drift]

ok funny question for you, did you afk at the statue :)))

[agile plover]

surely many may allready asked this question but what am i supposed to do with him T-T , i allready tried every charac

[sick sentinel]

leave 1 character there, play another for at least 1 hr then log back in that char

[errant pond]

Afk there 1 hour

[agile plover]

jesus

[spare lagoon]

Make sure the time left is like an hour and 5 minutes

[agile plover]

oh no

[spare lagoon]

If you show up early gotta repeat and it’ll round down on the time

[agile plover]

not again

i remember this tree, i still have nightmares about him 💀 still didn't finish his quest

but thanks you

[solar drift]

1h and 1 seconds atleast

[bleak gazelle]

did you try reading up two messages before you posted?

[solar drift]

Not 5 minute

[errant pond]

Just spend more than 1 hour there and you’re fine, doesnt have to be that specific as those horrible w3 quests

[agile plover]

my english is not perfect

[bleak gazelle]

fair enough

[agile plover]

for me i did understand "swap to a diff charac until you find the right class every hour"

so every hour i changed charac to see if it was the right one 💀

[agile plover]

https://tenor.com/view/azad-gif-8209328749288042945

[solar drift]

That’s a first

congratulations

[agile plover]

i guess thanks you 😂

i'm a man of science XD with limited english comprehension

[drowsy plover]

what do i start putting points into for hole progression?

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle have main and 2 alts farming monster mats in world5 today

[graceful fern]

I also do that. I just think theres one char who is worthy in all my char and just keep doing it before i actually read it again

[low skiff]

I put my points into every 10th opl for villagers but schematic scaling xp is also good. but also putting points into hole magic to max out strings in harp is super important'

[agile plover]

https://tenor.com/view/aoi-todo-yuji-itadori-jjk-cursed-clash-clap-broski-gif-13655402096057901181

[low skiff]

yea the wording was kinda weird so I had to read it a couple of times. thankfully i didnt keep chekcing diff characters every hour though

[cursive forge]

what

[fallow aurora]

#💖future-content-blog

[cursive forge]

ahh I see ok

[sinful bear]

Do you have to be online for the well to work?

[strong shale]

For it to expand yes

[sinful bear]

Ok, ty, cause it seems to only collect gravel while I'm on

[strong shale]

Your max will go up

But uses half of whatever you collected to expand

[solar seal]

if your cap is low and you afk for long time, it'll only expand 1x after you come back. to continuously expand while its low, you'll need to be active

[thin cipher]

Guys at what damage should I start pushing w5

Just got to world 5 what damage do I need to start pushing

[worldly lagoon]

a few mill is fine starting it but it scales quick

[boreal ocean]

how to get snail mail? is it just 1 per daily reset? does it not get affected by logs or chemical plants or omni trigger?

[junior dune]

You can get like 2 or 3 a day by upgrading the snail import with bits

Otherwise there's nothing else to do

[boreal ocean]

ah okay thankss

[timber oasis]

Is it worth to reset Opals when I unlock wishes? I dont think I messed up badly, but I was thinking about giving measurer 10 opals

[strong shale]

Save your wishes until someone tells you the meta

Dont use them, they are aids to get back

Read thru the hole guide before u do anything with wishes

Currently crashing out bc i wasted my wishes initially

[timber oasis]

So they stack up? Ok cool

[strong shale]

Yeah

[pastel kayak]

@strong shale the stalker alert

[brave fable]

do i use vitalic over mantra

[stable temple]

Use vitalic on 1 ES, use mantra on rest to boost that ES until you get multitool stamp, then leave everyone on mantra until you get tranqi on the ones you don't do div with

[brave fable]

i do div on everyone tho

[midnight shadow]

Anyone know how to fix this

[bleak gazelle]

have you updated the game since yesterday? there was a hotfix (at least for PC, unsure about mobile)

[novel arrow]

When I lose point in that talent at the corner of the meditation alter on that talent (2nd god link)....

Will I get back my points spent on it?

[midnight shadow]

It's on phone

[mighty parcel]

Anyone understand the fill rate because mine is at 2k an hour but is definitely not producing 2k an hr i have 3 buckets right now if im correct it should be at 6k with the buckets or is my understanding wrong

[solar seal]

yes it'll 6k (2k each) - assuming they all collecting same thing
are you asking cause your cap isn't increasing - in which case, have you bought both engi cap expanders?

[mighty parcel]

I'm not even getting the 2k with all buckets at the same even after 10 hrs

[boreal ocean]

for sampling (not worship and trapping), which obols are better ? stats or skilling power? in the long run

[solar seal]

ss your well

[solar seal]

the all stat hyper are best but outside of that are the skill ones

[boreal ocean]

ah okay thankss

[solar seal]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YkCE1KdcXPoF3hxFUjC0EtEUTkpuBmYcAtGodkuNOJ4/edit?gid=1826222324#gid=1826222324 if you want to see bis setups for sampling

[mighty parcel]

I'm at 4k after 10 hrs

[solar seal]

screenshot

[mighty parcel]

I tried for some reason it won't let me screenshot

[bleak gazelle]

they'll have to dm

[worldly lagoon]

his rank on server is too low

[solar seal]

oh you aren't rank yet

[boreal ocean]

what is this candy SB for? at first I thought it was for forging but BM can do this too right?

[solar seal]

upload to imgur or other site and just send link

[worldly lagoon]

you are probably filling ur buckets up and extending ur cap, there is a schemic where if u fill ur bucket u lose ALL ore u have in that type and extend bucket by 50%, that's likely what's happening

[solar seal]

SB is stronger than BM afk due to the way it scales, its why the focus is on SB

[worldly lagoon]

farming pearler shells and ghosts

[boreal ocean]

ah okay thankss u two

[worldly lagoon]

this is the gmush kph one

very similar but no worry about DR

and more multikill cards

[solar seal]

@mighty parcel read the replied message - axel's scenario is very likely

[mighty parcel]

Any way to stop that until later

[solar seal]

click well 1x and turn off slider

[mighty parcel]

Thanks

[worldly lagoon]

yes go to ur well thing and there is a slider bar that should be green, click it to be red

[mighty parcel]

I was going 🤪 over here lol thanks

[worldly lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-cute-fight-slap-gif-17572378

it's fine usually a simple explanation

u want to increase ur cap in the end but not if ur missing early upgrades

[mighty parcel]

Right

[worldly lagoon]

usually the simple explanation is lava broke it somehow but this time it wasn't the case (rare)

[rich vault]

I am completely unable to work this out somehow. Hole bonuses, which god do I want to get the link benefits from? I assume arctis, so I can swap all my lab rats over to paying respects?

[solar seal]

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity?
My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (2nd ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - baseline - Harriep / Omniphau or Goat
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat / Snake

[rich vault]

Wait, is that the new “idleon bonuses” thing from villagers, or the talent?

[solar seal]

oh sorry, i assumed that's what you were asking about but it seems i misunderstood

[rich vault]

Oh nah no worries, I can’t remember the name so…. It’s I’m assuming a secondary link to all characters, so arctis makes sense, I just doubt anything without an obvious respec

[boreal ocean]

oh right never thought purmeep can be linked to 2nd ES now instead of BM

[solar seal]

once you get conjurer unlocked, definitely work on getting pocket divinity in place - it'll make your decision making process 1000x easier

[rich vault]

Yeah, I forget what divinity is set to tbh. This one is all chars though I think

(I am lazy and not optimal)

[boreal ocean]

why goat? is it cos of the all%afk gain for all characters?

[solar seal]

omni to try to fish for refinery/3d print procs... but you could miss, thereby making it pretty much useless

goat for consistent gains

[boreal ocean]

wdym by miss making it

[solar seal]

reworded, hopefully its a little clearer - but omni isn't guaranteed to hit the right skills. you oculd get pet breeding or sailing 10x

depends on progress level of your account tbh - maybe those are still useful, so its still good either way

once you are past a certain point, only 2 of the 6 omni procs are beneficial

but they are really beneficial when they hit so the gamba away

[empty wharf]

Best pusher for w5?

[fading cape]

bubo or dk

[bleak gazelle]

though ES will have an easier time with boss than bubo

[boreal ocean]

ah that makes sense thankss
for now i still benefit from most so ill jz stick to omni

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle think I fixed up my sailing today will post the link in about 30 minutes when can update it again

[rich stratus]

wheres best area for these
is it tysons?

[graceful fern]

Its Tyson or the sand castle, but i personally like sandcastle more

[sinful aurora]

I like sandpots more.

[rich stratus]

im currently at sand pots but it feels very slow

[rich stratus]

ok thank you

[bleak gazelle]

the marginal increase in statue rather is nothing compared to the extra glass shards you'll get from sandy pots

[rich stratus]

thats true
i got like 60 rn
but saving discounts for crystal stamp

[pastel kayak]

Have allot on main

@bleak gazelle main went up

[toxic lintel]

Do you need to leave a char on the well screen in orderto get gravel/gold?

[blazing creek]

So , what benefit does getting more strings do ? More procs for the selected bonuses ?

Because I can already stack charge with the 1 string , does each charge affect all strings ?

[dreamy merlin]

yes, the charge only reset when all strings are strummed

[sinful aurora]

5 strings means you get 5 times the full effect of your charge.

[simple wadi]

Think of each string like the buckets in the first room

[dreamy merlin]

and you can play better music

[bleak gazelle]

the real reason

[dreamy merlin]

i will be recording some kind of song once i get enough strings and notes

even if its hot cross buns

[bleak gazelle]

play me the song of your people

[dreamy merlin]

the national anthem?

[bleak gazelle]

nah this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G44xTr8D_bw

[dreamy merlin]

ill try to remember

[torn orchid]

I have 40 million on my elemental sorcerer but I still can't win

Against the boss

[bleak gazelle]

Try this build
https://i.imgur.com/XuiAidw.png

[dreamy merlin]

probably have too little points in attack like talents

[bleak gazelle]

use lightning and autos on boss, use other skills to kill moles. though at 40m you might be able to just auto it

[stuck river]

What does this e string do

[bleak gazelle]

the bonus

[stuck river]

So extra harp power per hour?

[bleak gazelle]

that do be what it says

[stuck river]

It didn’t really provide a obvious enough bonus so I asked

[warm path]

the purple rock

you unlock a new ore everytime you finish it

[high mesa]

Copy

[proud citrus]

do cards like this apply without equipping them?

[rugged prawn]

Yup

[proud citrus]

sick

[blazing creek]

Ah , ok thanks

[rich beacon]

so when strumming

if i have a 5% D cord and i set 3 of them

is that 3x 5% rolls?

[blazing creek]

That should be it I imagine

[teal brook]

any idea of what dmg and defense i should aim for for the den? i am only at 55K score now

[random steeple]

Do i do bravery at the 20hr mark or wait for reward multiplier?

[rich beacon]

tl;dr you lose 20% each extra day

just do it when its up if your trying to get as much stuff as you wanna push for

[upper nest]

how many days to get 1m plunder kills on sb?

[vapid geode]

I'm not out of my mind thinking i really want to do this Easy resources sets to rank 3 or 4 right?

[rich beacon]

you do

[worldly lagoon]

you eventually want it rank 5, none of those cards are that difficult to get in the long-term (aside from forge if ur lazy), it's one of the best sets for skilling (debatably the best)

[vapid geode]

and there is no way to get r5 without gems right?

[worldly lagoon]

you can once you beat rift 46

[teal sphinx]

Is there a spreadsheet for the hole?

[teal brook]

pins

what char is the best to go for a score run on the den?

[stable temple]

DK or ES

[teal brook]

my sb gets abt 200x their dmg but he gets over ran cuase too many monster or?

[solar drift]

dk most likely

Is just because of defense and hp

my sb had 40qq dmg and he couldn’t do anything because he was getting oneshotted

[teal brook]

okok do the mutpliers stack with eachother or is it just a base multi?

[solar drift]

i don’t really remember but it was something with additive

[pastel kayak]

@worldly lagoon is a stalker in game

[worldly lagoon]

wtf?

[terse nexus]

What are best things to buy in "oddies"

[worldly lagoon]

the best is the npc exp prolly but u want all of it

[terse nexus]

I have all the 2x XP for the npc's

[stable temple]

SB has eh aoe damage compared to DK stacking knights and ES stacking tornadoes

As a bonus ES has mana shield which is massive massive boost to defenses

Mana shield makes ES unkillable

[teal brook]

oh ok cause dk only got 90K defense and the multi was not so high

[stable temple]

SB does more damage per hit but DK hits more times than SB

[worldly lagoon]

the material gain bonus's are good

[rapid elbow]

Trying this now, it works well 🙂 Thanks!

[tranquil pewter]

D will lvl up only when it gives me opal?

[worldly lagoon]

it gains experience like normal but has a chance on level up to give an opal

it has a strong passive so worth leveling regardless of opals

[junior arrow]

level up has nothing to do with the opals

that is all on the harp power

[nova crow]

When is it expected to get Sheek Scrubs or Divvy Slippers?

[junior arrow]

and how many opals you already have from harp

[nova crow]

Or should I just ignore these and grind lab/div without?

[stable temple]

Div shoes just get 1 for slab, lab shoes try to get for all lab slaves

[teal brook]

divvy slips is like mid w6 if you want them easy if i am not wrong can also get end of w5 too but harder

scrubs you can get pretty fast so worth getting a pair for all lab slaves

[nova crow]

Trying to find any way possible to get out of div/lab jail faster but I guess its meant to be

[sullen egret]

Anyone understand how divinity xp multiplier works and why some characters have much higher multipliers than others

[worldly lagoon]

scales with wis as well

[sullen egret]

It doesnt,

I figured it out tho mages are specialised in div so they get extra xp but the style you’re doing also affects what the multiplier says for some reason

[vale bluff]

I’m on kruk but don’t have enough dps what should I upgrade?

[peak verge]

Your damage.

[vale bluff]

I working on weapons

[stable temple]

Go into the hole and dig for gold dust

Easy 2x damage boost

[nova crow]

Cant tell without seeing your account - dunno where you're lacking.

[nova crow]

You got ie/it?

With 2x robe aswell.

[vale bluff]

Yes

Ie

[nova crow]

Link it then? ;p

[dawn geyser]

Bruh does bravery story really just end even if you have rethrows left. Cmon

[empty wharf]

Sad thing is. Maestro skill exp boost doesn't work only mage ones.

[vale bluff]

https://killaboi3961.idleonefficiency.com/

[mossy gyro]

Okay, what is the deal with the guy in Cavern 4 I think I've missed something obvious

[vale bluff]

Bravery?

Are talking about the wait?

[mossy gyro]

Do I just return back after an hour on any other character?

[vale bluff]

No you leave your character there for an hour then come back

[steady spruce]

it doesn't say on any other character does it

[vale bluff]

In one go

[mossy gyro]

Thank you I knew I was misunderstanding something

[nova crow]

Stamps lacking
Loads of vials missing for current stage
Breeding needs work
Worship need skulls and levels, and totem wave
Orange bubbles are a bit low imo (i have roid raging at 81 at start of w5)
Sampling bubbles are super low.....

Overall seems like you're just trying to go too fast.

Get those bubbles up

[vale bluff]

Ok

[upper trout]

Would take you an hour to beat krucky

[vale bluff]

He heals too fast

[upper trout]

Make that three since you're dk

[upper trout]

He gets healed from moles
that's why you need to prevent moles from reaching the center
You usually push with bubo or es in world 5

[vale bluff]

I need more dps

[upper trout]

You need more stats
First upgrade your anvil
Tier 3 won't cut it

[solar drift]

no you push with es or dk

bubo need more investment than dk

[upper trout]

Dk takes ages to beat krucky

[solar drift]

xdd

here fyi

ES>DK->Rest->BB->Vman

[upper trout]

guess I wasn't ready with my dk back then

[solar drift]

probably

but bubo just need more investment thats why dk is better

[upper trout]

Bubo isn't even second best?

[solar drift]

es need the least but starting w6 es fell off

[upper trout]

I'm referring to reaching w6 early game

[solar drift]

no

[upper trout]

Bubo was good early game or my dk was still lacking

[solar drift]

doenst matter, when you are rushing to w6 which most people do because they barely reach w6

they shouldnt push w6 at all and just start the skilling : summoning, sneaking, farming

then proceed to backtrack older world

[upper trout]

I meant when you're trying to push for w6

Beating krucky

[solar drift]

es->dk

[upper trout]

w6 at least to reach few resources

[solar drift]

bubo is bad because your active is slow due to not having 200 tentacle + his afk is worse then dk iirc

[upper trout]

btw what's the meta for mines

the village mine stuff

[solar drift]

you can either waste multiple day to push 1 map or go backtrack for the same amount of time and upgrade your account and push that map in 1-3h on every character

[solar drift]

📌

theres already a hole guide

[vale bluff]

I have t4 unlocked and I’m working on it

[upper trout]

I know you're gear gave it away

Also pushing w6 is mainly for making money

[solar drift]

you need 12m dmg, let me see what i can do

@vale bluff

get this necklace, it should be easy for you

how many w3 keys do you have

[vale bluff]

I still haven’t got the drop I need I get 5 a day

[solar drift]

how many colo ticket do you have

with es farm materials for this bubble

[sage urchin]

what's the best way to farm hampter ???

[vale bluff]

Ok

[solar drift]

equip your dk with Movementspeed pots

[solar drift]

the gold food or the weapons crafting materials

[sage urchin]

weapon crafting

[solar drift]

either ES or Candy/AFK there

[sage urchin]

do i need to make this for all of my char ?

[solar drift]

nope

[peak verge]

Your last "mandatory" material bag is starfire more or less. The next 3 are just "pick your poison, they're all shit to farm".

[solar drift]

you can later on if you get more droprate and are stronger, then just candy it

in the end you only need 1 of each later on for slabs

and the biggest bag aka godshard bag on Vman so he can upgrade stamp

[vale bluff]

That’s my max

[peak verge]

shiro check sv

[sage urchin]

this is nightmare

[solar drift]

yes you should buy from different one from shop

[solar drift]

i will show you it should looks like because you dont have w5 anvil right now

[solar drift]

sv ?

@vale bluff

or this

[vale bluff]

Ok

[peak verge]

Go balls out

[solar drift]

he cant

he dont have anvil 5 as i said

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-penguins-penguin-love-penguin-hug-slapping-gif-24271495

[peak verge]

Darn

[solar drift]

hes also not buying pots from shop either

he only have the highest pots tier

[nova crow]

12m max dmg?

[solar drift]

he yes, trying to up his dmg to ~30 on his dk so he can get to w6 then start backtracking

[vale bluff]

Yes

But im currently active on es

[solar drift]

thats ok

depends on your mats per portal gain

stop when the bubble take to long to lvl

[vale bluff]

Ok

[solar drift]

then do w3 colo with DK and only start it when you have ORB talent ready

you should get plenty keys to try to get the base scarf

[vale bluff]

Ok

[solar drift]

just do normal difficulty, it might be long but dmg is dmg

you need it

[vale bluff]

Yes

[chilly salmon]

How do I expand my gravel bar in the new cavern? I need 130 gravel but my bucket can only hold 100

[solar drift]

buy engineer upgrade that let you increase the cap

[vale bluff]

I JUST GOT 40

[nova crow]

I wanna active on ES but all my chars are locked up its so sad

[chilly salmon]

But I bought everything that can be bought with 100 gravel and none of those expand the bucket size

[solar drift]

did you flip the switch ?

[chilly salmon]

ooooh

that one looks new, thanks

[pliant ferry]

A+ art skills

[chilly salmon]

if i could read, i probably would need less help

[solar drift]

dotn worry i made a meme for the bravery question

[vale bluff]

@solar drift ty

[solar drift]

you got the scarf ?

[teal brook]

can i push motherload layers afk? or does it need to be active and is there any way to make it faster except 62HITS/M?

[chilly salmon]

it worked afk for me so probably yes

[naive crest]

Definitely can afk

[peak verge]

Yes, just don't forget to actually collect the ore that drops when you claim the afk.

[solar drift]

just remember to pick the ore after claiming afk

EQUIP MINING FOOD

[vale bluff]

No not yet unfortunately I will keep trying tho

[peak verge]

This gon be fun

[chilly salmon]

why pick up the ore tho? is it used for something

[solar drift]

just keep doing 1 run of colo with dk with the highest droprate, then go to boss with the key and kill the boss

[peak verge]

Because it won't count otherwise to pushing the layer.

[solar drift]

for it to count to the motherlode

[naive crest]

That's what the layers count

[vale bluff]

I am

[teal brook]

ty for the tips will make life way easier

[peak verge]

It also scales a schematic.

[chilly salmon]

that feels weird, the motherlode should know how much i hit it

[teal brook]

dat why i am pushing it asap used 170 silver stopwatches already

[peak verge]

It knows, but it won't tell you. You gotta count the ore individually to make sure it ain't lying.

[peak verge]

The scaling is nowhere near that good to even remotely warrant timeskips.

It's +5 per pow of 10. Most people got like 100M / 1B and left it.

[teal brook]

well it gives me extra opels and i need them to push char levels

[peak verge]

If you need to skip that much, either you reached a very late layer where it's not worth it anymore, or your mining skills could use more improvement.

[teal brook]

i got 64T mining eff i get the 5 max daily too quickly so i timeskip so i can get new 5 faster

[solar drift]

my guy

people are stopping at 20th layer

they have 50QQQ

[teal brook]

good thing i am at 15 now cause i started yesterday with hole lol

or i am afking to 15 need a lil more ore first

[solar drift]

you needed 1.4b ore

so using silver stopwatch just for motherlode is straight up wasted

[teal brook]

good thang i aint going to 20 yet at all lol

[peak verge]

You sure you're not neglecting literally every single other cave? Since those also give opals and it's a lot easier.

[teal brook]

no i am waiting for bravery H and gotten the most out of the den for now just waiting on explorer levels and engi levels to unlock new stuff

[peak verge]

How many opals you got into them?

[teal brook]

i already have 6of the resource boosts and 2x xp for all the people in the hole so just wanted to boost my progression. 10 on explo and 10 on engi saving the ones i got for the new one now

[peak verge]

put 20 on explo

only 1 in conjurer especially if you bought out the shop

and 10 in measurehead in c6

[bitter pasture]

how does the harp cavern work

[teal brook]

good to know ty

[safe cobalt]

Hi! I'm trying to farm the Power Statues for Onyx quest. I can only manage to get 6.48 drop rate, any tip to increase it further?

[bitter pasture]

obols