lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[gilded sedge]

Engineer villager xp

[fickle lake]

no

[gilded sedge]

And explorer

[solar seal]

Is there a priority for Conjurer bonuses?
If you do not have Doot, the immediate priority (5 points) should be:
a) 1 point into Idleon Majik (right/ 🟢 ) to unlock Pocket Divinity
b) 3 points into Village Majik (middle/ 🟦 ) to unlock up to Cosmo, Enhance!
c) 1 point again into Pocket Divinity again to get 2nd pocket (3rd overall) god link

[fickle lake]

ok thx

[velvet thistle]

its not goin gup, is this the maximum for now?

[solar seal]

yes, you'll need the next engi bonus to increase it past 14x expansions

[warm holly]

Does the msa totalizer bonus from gaming work if you havent unlocked the msa yet

[velvet thistle]

ok

[solar seal]

likely not

[warm holly]

Figured as much ty

[fickle lake]

is it worth putting both my dk in the hole if im very behind in terms of everything? Im not sure how big of a buff the hole provides for all my characters

[cursive forge]

what should I use my worship charges on

[solar seal]

It is hard to tell right now how quickly a lower progressed account could utilize/gain access to the bonuses of hole - one part, since we are still finding out the full extent of the current bonuses, but another in the fact that those more progressed had to do without new released key resources (such as Pocket Divinity) which would change gameplay progression considerably. We can only provide conjecutres into what might be most efficient, but it is by no means a one shoe fits all since everyone will be at different stages.

[pliant ferry]

Idleon 101 - it's not about how far along you are. It's about what you have neglected the least

[fickle lake]

What if your not sure about what your missing? Ive recently went back to level up stamps and alchemy, got everybody back up to at least lvl 15 on most skills (mostly lab, cooking and w6 skills), dementia armour and plat collector on minimum.

[pliant ferry]

Heavily recommend auto review

[solar seal]

not to sound dense, but there's only one thing to spend worship charge on. if you need a particular soul for crafting/alchemy, obvious focus that worship. otherwise, make sure to keep you vman as high of worship level by possible, by checking IT or IE to see which of your current worship TD best waves provides you the most xp/charge invested. in most situations, it should be w4 TD, so long as all your TD are roughly progressed the same amounts

[cursive forge]

ok

[tender pine]

does having arctis linked count as being in the lab

[pliant ferry]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[sick sentinel]

Not for the div gains no, still need the actual lab connection

[fickle lake]

ok thx

[broken pilot]

Gaming slowed to a halt, how do I get it running again?

[fossil elbow]

hm lv3 -> 8% bravery opals

[tender pine]

are you sure? he posted this screenshot which makes me think that it does

[pliant ferry]

Pray to the nugget and snail gods

[teal phoenix]

Does arctis+goharut give divinity?

[broken pilot]

I don't have snail

[solar seal]

Just because the image has that, does not mean they suddenly interact differently

[tender pine]

then why would he send that

[solar seal]

why can't he?

[teal phoenix]

What’s generally best, arctis+omniphau?

[solar seal]

How should I be utilizing Pocket Divinity?
My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (2nd ES on Purrmep with Poly to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - baseline - Harriep / Omniphau
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat / Snake

[teal phoenix]

Btw how do minor links work

[peak verge]

If you're linked to that god, you get the bonus. Shrimple as.

[tender pine]

because it led me to believe that it did work that way
which is false apparently

[solar seal]

he could have used item showing link to Kattlekruk and Bagur. Doesn't mean the suddenly now have major link bonuses... :x not sure what your point is. the image is an image simply to show that we can now have 2nd and 3rd links - not that gods are different unless he actually changed them

[elder ermine]

Thanks for those divinity combo dude 👍

[broken pilot]

I don't have snail, but is there anything else that can help?

[solar seal]

This is simply the nature of the gaming skill. Whenever you get a new nugget, new snail level, new artifact tier unlocked, etc., you'll find yourself able to progress much quicker than normal and invest into new upgrades. But once your upgrade costs have caught up to your new bit multiplier, it will slow down to a crawl again. Gaming is very feast/famine in this regard - more famine than feast - and this is very typical and to be expected. Just keep chugging along.

[broken pilot]

I see

[tender pine]

im not saying that anything would interact differently, i was asking a question because i dont know every single tiny detail about the game

[solar seal]

I'm not saying you need to know all the interactions, thats waht these channels are for. I'm just saying you were reading way more into a simple image than what (no offense to him) Lava would ever act or intend. He's not hiding new hidden interactions in those images.

Not taht i would recommend it, but that pocket divinity setup could be used in a resample run
everyone main links to snake
then pocket on bear/goat

this would allow for the same setup that I would use when i do resamples

The situation exists where you could find yourself utilizing bear/goat --> doesn't mean it now allows you to gain divinity xp/points through goat using bear - they have other ways it can still be utilized but not directly for divinity purposes

[tender pine]

then if that doesnt work then what is the point of linking arctis and goharut

[solar seal]

like i just mentioned, baer/goat/snake = ideal resample setup

[valid ledge]

Just to clarify, If i remove 9k layer of rocks then i unlock the next ore i am digging out or does it mean smth else

[solar seal]

bear gives you +talent levels, goat gives account wide afk gain per char, snake gives personal afk gain rate

[pliant ferry]

I am not one who pushes to min max everything I just play to have fun. I don't enjoy gaming so I largely pretend it doesn't exist. I think equinox with the shovel upgrade was the best thing to happen to this game

[solar seal]

yes you are getting access to next well resource

[broken pilot]

Ok

[broken pilot]

I play for fun also, but it's nice to be strong

[obtuse dome]

Hey Guys! Does the 20% Sailing speed Star Sign stack if I put it on more than one toon?

[solar seal]

star signs are only active when a character is active. they aren't "constantly providing benefits"

[peak verge]

Sailing progress only happens when you open the map, so only the character opening the map needs to have it.

Kaitooooooooo with the jinx.

[obtuse dome]

Cool thanks!

[solar seal]

naw you answered a slightly different question 😛

[pliant ferry]

sailing also largely doesn't exist in m y world 🤣

[west crane]

from the hole, idleon majik, resource bursting is like useless if youre already at 300% multi resources?

[jade fossil]

I love the hole, makes my life 1000X easier

is there dmg% in the holr

hole*

[fading cape]

opposite. It increases your max above the 300 line.

but looks to be one of those things you respec for before doing a sample run. Unless you're late game may not notice much difference, and maybe not worth wasting a conjurer point on over something like xp or more harp strings

[west crane]

ooo thats pretty good thx

[knotty raptor]

Yes

[rose pecan]

Dumb question. Can ES second link to Purrmep? I don't have doot but unlock the bonus from the hole. Was trying to lv the talent to x6 but it said i can't link to god

[elfin pebble]

Does gohaurt effect also work when you are connected to lab by arctis?

[vernal relic]

i got 1k k

[terse verge]

Its weird. I would just main link purrmep and use poly for what you normally want to keep on main

My go to setup is as follows:
-real link - all to Bear (2nd ES on Purrmep with Polytheism to Bear)
-Pocket Divinity - baseline - Harriep / Omniphau
-Pocket Divinity - sampling - Goat / Snake

[stuck river]

yeah this pocket div is so helpful to non dooters

3 div links in total for free

maybe dks can link to flutterbis for free pearls via construction?

[unborn trench]

do yall wait until dna reaches 100% before you research in the gaming skill

[stuck river]

first 2-3 yes, after that quantity>odds

i.e mutate after each round of harvest

[unborn trench]

ahh i see

thanks friend

[stuck river]

lets go gambling
aw dang it

[smoky coyote]

what do "monument" mean? statues? or is that some other buff?

[mighty pier]

What do you do in cavern 4?

[smoky coyote]

literally just leave ur guys there afk

[terse verge]

Bravery bonuses

[smoky coyote]

after the first hour u will see

[smoky coyote]

ohh right that was called monument, i forgot, ty

[terse verge]

Why doesn’t the Bravery NPC want to talk to me? I did what he asked?
Bravery (acts like Fractal Island in W2) where afk time is ignored until you have accrued at least 1 full uninterrupted hour.
To get started on the quest, you must leave at least 1 character at the Bravery NPC, for the full hour uninterrupted in ONE afk claim.

Once you are progressing on Bravery, all subsequent time after the first hour is rounded down to nearest whole hour. So you ideally want to claim AFK time if you are just past an hour (2:03 rounds to 2 hrs) or alternatively wait a few minutes if you are just short an hour (wait 3 min if you are 4:57 to get full 5 hrs).

[terse verge]

You only ever need so many div pearls. Easiest/fastest way is after unlocking new sneaking mastery and let your guys overnight on ghost floor to get levels - pocket to flutterbis - then next day reap harvest. Will have more than enough for all pearl needs

[ornate bobcat]

how can i talk to the statue guy

[fading cape]

two comments up from yours

[ornate bobcat]

ah

[worn idol]

If I put on AFK doubling cards/AFK boosting cards, would that potentially get me more monument hours?

[halcyon glade]

Definitely not AFK boosting (it's not affected by normal AFK Gains Rate) — would guess no on AFK doubling but not sure

[crimson yew]

trying to decide if i should stop pushing hole and focus on account now. im soft capped on motherlode due to mining eff/speed. so i need alchemy for sure and this is what my cooking looks like (yes im in w6 and not a master chef) lol

[terse verge]

Nope. Lava has said he has plans to introduce “monument afk” to help increase our time gain

[worn idol]

Side note, farming W2 mini-bosses sucks. Love spending 30mins to dump ~50 doot eyes or biggie eyes. Not hopefull that will ever change but a guy can wish eh

[crimson yew]

maybe a weekly QoL update could be x5 and x30 difficulty doots and biggies. #hopeful

[terse verge]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
definitely don’t get sucked into doing only hole cause its meant as more of something else to do when you have nothing else. Looks like you got lots to work on so make sure not to keep neglecting just cause hole is shiny and new. Utilize !review judiciously

[fading cape]

Biggie hours is easy on archer. I get three kills per endless arrow thing. Just keep dropping eyes with shift and click while arrows fire

[worn idol]

Never said it was hard, just tedious. I use DK for the additional DR from orb. I can get ~200-300 then spam eyes as fast as possible

[crimson yew]

yeah im going to remove all but one from bravery when i unlock the 300hr bonus. and maybe leave a miner there but could honestly use that dk on starting my onyx grind. i could dm my IE/IT if you know anyone who likes to look at them. i get a little side tracked on scolis tool. cooking and alch bubbles are both Early w6 rated though.

[terse verge]

If you arent already, can use xayayahs method to orb stack #endgame-chat-w7🐟 message

[worn idol]

Yeah, I do that now. Def the best way to take care of it, still is just tedious for me

[terse verge]

Unfortunately i’ve semi-retired from doing individual reviews since its mostly just a regurgitation of what autoreview can tell ya. Don’t let it overwhelm you. Just take one section at a time and work up slowly

[worn idol]

Additionally, best advice I can give is to always be focusing on alch and stamps in the background, then have one or two "main" focuses for a given period of time

[crimson yew]

Yeah kaito ive been stuck with prayer ranked low too cause my worsh is all to crap due to afking stuff like hole and lab for the past monthish. my skulls are garbo as well as traps. need to push for glauss skull and royal trap.

[worn idol]

Getting skulls and traps up to luciferian/dreadnaught and traps to royal/egalitarian is a good goal to have. I usually just let worship sit for the week and make it part of my weekly routine to use charge on sundays

[near escarp]

this is so OP oh my

cant even imagine doot

[autumn shell]

Its just all stats for doot

Also apparently I was supposed to have a cutscene for the hole and I never got it. I feel robbed

[slow kettle]

How can I get more damage on my ES? I'm at Kruk and I don't have the DPS. Someone recommended I push W5 for W6 bonuses ASAP.

[sly sentinel]

should i wait to let the story bonus get big or just do it right away because it will be quite further than the previous story

[sweet cipher]

It was verry small when you entert the area for first time

[candid quail]

are there any recommendations on opal distribution for vill out?

currently i am running 20/5/4

[terse verge]

Generally in groups of 10… most are currently sitting around 20/10/dependent/10
conjurer is dependent on whether you bought out gem shop

[candid quail]

ah okay thx 🙂

[terse verge]

As folks are getting more, most push either engi or measure to 20

[candid quail]

so i will go for 10 on eng first

[sweet cipher]

😮

That is about the same for me

Havent been constantly active with it tho

[radiant gazelle]

chat for my first one..

[neon fog]

So how important is the mining eff for the motherload? Im sitting on 200t eff with 62 speed and its already super slow past layer 12

[junior dune]

How slow is super slow? Layer 12 seems early for it to become that slow

[humble radish]

i did 12 pretty fast with 40t eff

16 is slow for me but will be done soon

[teal phoenix]

Does a max golden sprinkler never use up its charge?

[humble radish]

no you still loose charges

[teal phoenix]

It says you have a 30% chance to not lose it for lvl 1

And 1,5x for each further purchase up to 4

According to what I calculated the chance would be like 101% not to use the charge

Or is it additive

[neon fog]

Yeah im not sure how slow it actually is, but I just realised that I was not in proper build at all. I havent played in quite some time so I forgot all about cards etc and offline gains

[teal phoenix]

Yeah so additive

[humble radish]

yes

[teal phoenix]

Thanks

[teal phoenix]

What even is the calculation here

[terse verge]

No idea - just pulling info from wiki

[teal phoenix]

Thanks

[delicate magnet]

Insta gaming is at 1.3min?

[terse verge]

Thats a rough guideline but requires decent investment into squirrel sry brainfart requires 160 crops

[tidal cedar]

Shrine world tour is useless once I get the artifact, right?

[sage urchin]

how much speed from squirell do i need?

[terse verge]

Check 3rd 📌 for graphic

[terse verge]

Slight edit to my comment. But if you have full 160 crops and 1.3min, should have 5sec gaming or very close to it

[tidal cedar]

Thanks

[wispy trench]

how do u unl9ock the monument?

[sage urchin]

afk

[delicate magnet]

I have 160 crops

[wispy trench]

k

[sage urchin]

46 crop unlock so far , idk why my farming so slow

[terse verge]

Why doesn’t the Bravery NPC want to talk to me? I did what he asked?
Bravery (acts like Fractal Island in W2) where afk time is ignored until you have accrued at least 1 full uninterrupted hour.
To get started on the quest, you must leave at least 1 character at the Bravery NPC, for the full hour uninterrupted in ONE afk claim.

Once you are progressing on Bravery, all subsequent time after the first hour is rounded down to nearest whole hour. So you ideally want to claim AFK time if you are just past an hour (2:03 rounds to 2 hrs) or alternatively wait a few minutes if you are just short an hour (wait 3 min if you are 4:57 to get full 5 hrs).

[delicate magnet]

I have 5 sec gaming with 1.8

[terse verge]

Use https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YBZq9t_XTnhxN-Cz0P1VMTNsZs_gAM4jFyMB3n7lBi8/edit?gid=350248259#gid=350248259 to see your values to check

[fathom remnant]

I have 8 chars atm (2 DK, 2 SB, 1 BB, 1 BM, 1 ES, 1 Bubo), should i make my vman next or another ES first?

[severe widget]

who does best at a fairly end game account in the den? is it really dk?

[terse verge]

While proper advice would be to make your vman so you dont keep delaying the account buffs
Because mage master class might be soon(tm) you can wait to see how meta might shift before you commit one way or the other

[severe widget]

oh and does biggie work for bravery?

thanks x boss

[terse verge]

For points, i’ve had good success with SB since you can crank up acc multi due to their self buff

[severe widget]

these them facts i should give mine a spin

kinda makes me wanna put armor stones on my characters, havent yet since didnt have any goals that really needed it before

[woeful knot]

theres a new w5 card

[severe widget]

this also new no

[tranquil pewter]

It won't work like this right?

[terse verge]

With Pocket Divinity/Doot, why am I unable to gain Divinity XP/Points when I have Bear and Goat selected?
Bear and Goat do not have any beneficial overlap with respect to Lab/Divinity. Bear simply makes you active in the 'Lab mainframe' it does not make you actually 'connected to' Lab, which is what is required for Goat. Since you are not connected to Lab, the Goat Major Bonus does not trigger and you will not gain Divinity XP/Points from your current stance (excluding Tranqi which does not require active meditation).
Note: This isn't to say you would never utilize both Bear and Goat at same time. The trio of Bear/Goat/Snake is the ideal combo for when you are doing resamples.

[tranquil pewter]

So in order to earn divine points I must afk in lab (or altar) anyway?

[woeful knot]

whats this in the middle?

[humble radish]

probably hole monster

[tranquil pewter]

something new is coming 👀

[terse verge]

|| new mob in cavern 9 - card is passive village xp - drops dragon statue 1:100k rarity provides % statue bonus ||

[woeful knot]

thx

[pliant ferry]

cards come in pack and only need 99999999 to level up lol

[vagrant plover]

1 in 100k for a statue is crazy

[crimson thistle]

whats the general consensus for best den clearer?

[silver pumice]

hey guys, am I allowed to ask for questions about the hole or you dont want spoilers?

[pliant ferry]

I think SB is going to be king there because its all about individual dmg. not wide spread clearing.

[silver pumice]

anyways, how do you get the enhance from cosmo, the conjuror?

[hot thorn]

does anyone know the best way to optamise getting purple scruse i just got tear 4 anvil and im crashing out

[woeful knot]

village majik 3

[dapper wing]

Anyone randomly getting crashes when talking to npcs outside of town in w5? Only happens on my 10th character. Happening on Android, haven't tested steam I'm not home rn

[crimson thistle]

soon

[unkempt fable]

Hole question: does the conjuror's pocket divinity max out at 2 additional links or can it be expanded further?

[quick jay]

what am i supposed to do here

[humble radish]

leave the guy there for 1h

its afk thing

[quick jay]

oh i see thanks

[unkempt fable]

note that it has to be 1 full hour, any time less than that isn't counted

it's like fractal island

also when you afk there for further rewards, it follows the same rule. 2h 1 min = 2h, 1h 58 min = 1h

[sly cedar]

with the motherlode, should i just keep destroying layers whenever i deplete all the ore, or is there some other strategy to it? do the layers refill?

[unkempt fable]

they don't. every next layer has a higher efficiency requirement than the last but you can keep mining ore from a 'depleted' layer for the one bonus that scales off the amount of motherlode ore you've mined

you can destroy layers to get an opal 5 times a day

[peak verge]

You can farm some ore for the pow of 10 buff in early layers but otherwise it's up to you if you wanna go for more opals.

[unkempt fable]

note that the motherlode ore bonus doesn't scale super well so don't worry too much about it, it's only good early on

[velvet thistle]

During Storytelling in Cavern 4, if you lose, do you only lose the bonuses of the current run, or the bonuses of the previous runs as well?

[crimson thistle]

i should probably resample huh

[solar seal]

current only

[velvet thistle]

oh thank god i was scared

[old chasm]

Is there an order to invest opals on? Currently 20/10/20/10. conjuror feels best for unlocking more exp bonuses

[crimson thistle]

i think this is the most i can minmax

[viral granite]

[zealous pagoda]

Gamers whats in Bravery after 5 rerolls? the 750hours

[zealous pagoda]

do you have the max cap increase in multilog?

[crimson thistle]

yeah just missing BiS keychain and other p2w stuff

[zealous pagoda]

you dont :c

you got the one from alchemy but not the one from the hole

[crimson thistle]

where in the hole is that

i just got mine today

[zealous pagoda]

green the third one

not sure what it increases it too yet tho

was bout to get that in 18 hours

[neat nimbus]

+100 % per lvl

[zealous pagoda]

whats the max lvl after buying that?

[neat nimbus]

3

for total 300 %

[zealous pagoda]

damn thats crazy

[neat nimbus]

yea

[fierce cargo]

ty hole

[zealous pagoda]

why thank you? owo

[terse verge]

Made the godshard bar process 243x easier

[zealous pagoda]

with the increase in forge cap?

[warm trout]

whats the main reason to reset bell?

[dreamy merlin]

probably to get more opals or something? im not really sure what it means either

[warm trout]

maybe after more improvements it will be more straight forward for now like upgrades and no idea why I should reset:D

[terse verge]

Engi has bonuses that give extra levels per ring. So youd reset to try to get more levels after you have all those benefits

Or some folks got really bad rng and it shoved all their levels into one and not spread out - can reset to balance that back out

[vagrant plover]

how many bars were you getting per reset?

[dreamy merlin]

find them in deeper caverns

[fierce cargo]

per 2 min claim? 1709 per slot x 16slots. actually i don't know if that counts the oils.

[dreamy merlin]

27k every 2 minutes

[crimson thistle]

how

[fierce cargo]

i think it does include oils

[dreamy merlin]

why wouldnt it

[fierce cargo]

because they don't always proc?

[vagrant plover]

you can make a whole set of armor in like 30 min

[fierce cargo]

i don't know about that

i lied and it was like a 4 min claim

but i think i don't have the KPH to max my forge now

[dreamy merlin]

405k in 30 minutes, so close to it at least

[vagrant plover]

either way its possible to have full god shard with out selling your soul

[fierce cargo]

yea

all the bar vials as well

[vagrant plover]

your right the problem now is running out of ore lol

[fierce cargo]

if you're going to go for G gear, you're gonna have to plan the ores and turn off atoms

yea

it's a pain

[crimson thistle]

prep some gOre stakcks

[vagrant plover]

id rather sacrifice a few storage space than have to farm the old slow way

[crimson thistle]

pretty good increase i would say

now time to do the rest

[fierce cargo]

very nice

did you reprint last week

[silver pumice]

hey guys 🙂 i just linked Goharut as 2nd divinity god in pocket divinity but it doesnt have an effect. Also if i check on my ES, it does not say that this god is linked already.. anyone else has that problem?

[crimson thistle]

46 days ago

[fierce cargo]

nice

[dreamy merlin]

i really dont wanna resample

[gilded sedge]

Do it i wanna see ur copper sample

[dreamy merlin]

ll do it once i get more bonuses in the hole

[terse cosmos]

what benefits should i be focusing on?

[dreamy merlin]

all im confident of is opals first prio

[gilded sedge]

Bucket fill rate, opals and villager xp, with as order probably opal > villager xp > bfr but it's debatable, also opal chance you should get probably

[terse cosmos]

yea i grab opals every time

ok ok ty as long as im getting the right upgrades and going in the right direction

[dreamy merlin]

ngl bravery seems like it could get really op with time

[terse cosmos]

i have all my characters afking here LMAO

[gilded sedge]

Bc of the opal chance thingy it 100% is

[dreamy merlin]

gonna be getting 100 opals a day

even with just my 3rd run, already got like 4 opals in 1 run

[gilded sedge]

Also sword damage scaling seems to go very crazy

[dreamy merlin]

yea

Especially with all the unknow bonuses, could easily be the biggest bonus of the update (eventually)

[golden apex]

what path should i go first?

[terse cosmos]

do u have doot?

[gilded sedge]

Do u have doot?

[golden apex]

no

[terse cosmos]

1st green 1, then focus blue

[golden apex]

k

[golden apex]

i need opals man :(

[terse cosmos]

green lets u link to a extra god on everyone

and u can enchance it

to link to more

[golden apex]

whas dat

[terse cosmos]

god?

divinity

[golden apex]

no, enchanting

[dreamy merlin]

it lets you upgrade things more

[terse cosmos]

so instead of having +1 god , it will be +2

which is what im rushing

[golden apex]

what floor do you get to enchant

[dreamy merlin]

i love this update so much

3 gods total

[terse cosmos]

doot issue fixed

[gilded sedge]

It took me 5 years to find this message

[dreamy merlin]

exactly what i was gonna say but i didnt want to type allat

[golden apex]

Kaito is the best bro

I swear he can help with anything

[gilded sedge]

There's also a hole guide in tip and tricks u can follow that too

[hushed barn]

I've rang the clean bell 4 times, is something supposed to pop up for me to upgrade or am I just unlucky

[golden apex]

griffys?

[gilded sedge]

No

[dreamy merlin]

ive never wanted more gems more than i want right now

[gilded sedge]

#1303761365273415700 message

[dreamy merlin]

would it be better to buy 2x conjurer xp or just more orbs

[dreamy merlin]

unlucky

[gilded sedge]

Opals? You probably want to buy that only when u have conjurer points villager xp and resources maxed

[dreamy merlin]

i mean conjurer orb things

not sure if 2x xp from him would help me faster than just buying like 2 more orbs rn

[coarse nova]

if anyone's wondering, pocket divinity only works on unlocked gods

[golden apex]

what food are good for damage

since the wiki doesn't help at all

[nova lynx]

make sure to go do all your Biggie Hours / Doot / colo runs then

Just picked up like 700 gems from that and got another ~400 if I went and farmed ghosts for more doots, but am tired of doot

[dreamy merlin]

i just did all that yesterday

[nova lynx]

[dreamy merlin]

got like 1.2k gems just yesterday

[nova lynx]

I need more gems too lol but will do more Doot later this week. I prob need to go spam my colo tix for a ton of gems tbh

[silent birch]

just got the fury relic on a 0.3% chance haha

[torn orchid]

Are your minor divine bonus grown by leveling up divinity or leveling up the them

[golden apex]

whats the best collo to farm gems?

[gentle niche]

Any one have any tips for harp when you first unlock it

[fierce cargo]

300 bosses a day for gems

[gilded sedge]

Getting more strings is also important for the multiplier upgrade of engineer

[knotty raptor]

[golden apex]

for cooking atleast

[gilded sedge]

Omg is that the dude from brawl stars that said there is no coin shortage?

[knotty raptor]

i got 50k coins man

[gilded sedge]

Bro I always have so many more power points then coins

[knotty raptor]

so you want to know what cooking meals are good for dmg?

[knotty raptor]

me too

[golden apex]

yr

[knotty raptor]

oh you were talking about the emoji

[gilded sedge]

Also look at these goated stats in the trio showdown challenge that just finished

[knotty raptor]

then how is the wiki unhelpful?

[gilded sedge]

Yeah, that guy said it in a brawl talk podcast

[golden apex]

dont show da buffs

[knotty raptor]

got this today

[knotty raptor]

yes it does

[gilded sedge]

Damn u tryhard

[knotty raptor]

idleon players when they need to search something for more than 2 seconds: (impossible)

[knotty raptor]

nah people just suck

people really underestimate bull lol they always try to fight me and lose

[golden apex]

why the hell is it not with the recipes

[gilded sedge]

I get bored in solo showdown and randoms suck in all other ganemodes, so I don't push trophies, also it's goated cuz I have star shelly so I don't need to farm trophies to flex

[dreamy merlin]

why would it be, there isnt enough space for that

[golden apex]

just make it scroll more

[knotty raptor]

idleon players when they need to scroll down: (impossible)

[golden apex]

to da right

[gilded sedge]

Tbh bull players always just either suck or are insane at the game, there is no in between

[knotty raptor]

then its too cramped

[dreamy merlin]

or yk, just scroll down 2 more seconds. nobody likes when its too wide

[knotty raptor]

ye i get against a lot of bulls who have no idea how to play him

[gilded sedge]

And most of em suck

[gilded sedge]

Also bull against shelly with super stands basically no chance so that kinda sucks

[knotty raptor]

im on the insane at the game

[gilded sedge]

If the shelly isn't braindead that is

[knotty raptor]

ive defeated lots of shelly

super is all you need

hypercharge if its a strong one

see shelly-super-shelly cant attack for a small timeframe-1-2 tap her

[gilded sedge]

With equal power cubes, I feel like a good shelly with super against a good bull with super shelly wins 999/1000 times

[knotty raptor]

depends on the map

[gilded sedge]

Not really

[knotty raptor]

yes really

[gilded sedge]

I'd say let's test it but I feel like ur better then me at the game and ur gonna destroy me

[knotty raptor]

[dreamy merlin]

test it ( i have never even touched that game)

[crimson thistle]

[indigo hearth]

2 days at the hole, I consider this a win

[torpid badge]

How do you increase the monument multi? It doesn't say in game

[dreamy merlin]

the reward multi? Its just over time it increases

basically so your not punished for not checking every 20 hours exactly

[late copper]

are monument bonuses multi or additive? like cooking speed

[torpid badge]

so you get x1 every 20 hours?

[indigo hearth]

One annoying thing is that for Bravery, minute based rewards like sailing from doot dont work anymore - Is that a bug or intended?

[torpid badge]

is that per afk hour or real time hour

[dreamy merlin]

probably

real time

[dreamy merlin]

they work for me

[indigo hearth]

They dont show up when switching to that toon at least

[torpid badge]

ty

[late copper]

works and shows up for me

[indigo hearth]

Works for motherlode, not bravery monument

[steady spruce]

don't work /anymore/? they never worked for bravery

whole hours only

[dreamy merlin]

it has to be 1hr+ for any gains in bravery

[indigo hearth]

Ya thats what I mean

[golden apex]

wha dis

[indigo hearth]

You lose out on anything not rounded to the next whole hour

[indigo hearth]

PVC Pipe from Anvil

[dreamy merlin]

well yea, its the same for fractal island i belive, and they are same concept

[indigo hearth]

I get that the nothing hrs and bravery times should be whole hour, but the rest of the rewards should work as normal - I guess it's just difficult to implement

[dreamy merlin]

its just you can only claim afk gains if its 1hr+, and if you arent claiming afk gains you cant claim other stuff that is based on afk gains

[worldly lagoon]

u failed the 60% success roll 4 times lol

[steady spruce]

oh, your complaint is that omni afk gains aren't working at all when you're on bravery unless you're claiming whole hours of bravery

that's fair

[indigo hearth]

Yeah, I think that could be solved in a more elegant way, but maybe this is fixed in an upcoming update

[dreamy merlin]

doubt it

also i never thought i would see someone say the word elegant while talking abt idleon

[indigo hearth]

Just gonna be annoying parking toons to unlock bravery hour bonuses during that time

[indigo hearth]

I mean the game looks gorgeous

[late copper]

annoying how? if you want bravery, you have to wait for whole hours. who would claim with less than an hour?

[dreamy merlin]

well i mean you normally only claim those things every 2/4 hours anyways

[indigo hearth]

Yea but if I like, am 1h40min in you lose out on those 40 min no?

At least in Bravery

[dreamy merlin]

that i am not sure of

i just assumed it visually rounds down but you still get the time

[indigo hearth]

Perhaps, then I wouldn't mind it

Since we got "4 minute" omni claims now, I would actually like to have it show "1h 39m" too at some point

[molten granite]

CAn someone help me with choosing divinity gods? I’m thinking of linking all to snake(afk gain) and elefant(afk counts towards various skills) via the well upgrade and some towards bear(active in lab) so I get all bonuses. Should I link the rest with rabbit(3x sample) or what would you suggest
I’m not that far with gods, stuck at unlocking tiger

[quaint gazelle]

how hounds cave work?

[potent sky]

Anyone can tell me how do i do this bravery thing in the cavern? It tells me to come back after an hour and when i do it just says the same

[steady spruce]

did you swap character and afk at the monument for an hour?

like it told you to 🙂

[quaint gazelle]

let a toon parked there, multiple to reach more hours

[potent sky]

Wait what 💀

I need to afk there?

[potent sky]

Ahhh

I see what i was messing 😅😅

Yeah i would just afk somewhere else and then go back after an hour 😅

[mint wing]

is there anyway to calculate active kills? I mean the "AFK gains" menu are not that reliable as long as u don`t have 100% survivability, and when IM "active" I allmost never have 100% surv, cause I push dmg and are clearing things way faster then Im dying

[potent sky]

And i just need to do it for one character? Or do i need to do it on multiple ones?

Like is it account wide? Or individually for each character?

[steady spruce]

nope, you have to just measure it yourself

[mint wing]

aw >:

[crimson thistle]

finally done with all my samples 🫡

[agile pagoda]

So... how do you unlock the 3rd villager?

[teal lynx]

It's in a cave :P
I believe c5

[velvet thistle]

Yep

[agile pagoda]

oh, I just unlocked the 4th layer haha

[sinful fulcrum]

How do you lower the amplifers for the hounds?

[terse verge]

Click to select - long hold - release to set back to 0

[agile pagoda]

Can you mine afk the motherlode?

[terse verge]

Just remember to pick up the ore after claiming afk. Soooooo many folks have forgotten and lost hours and hours of progress

[agile pagoda]

ooh

[terse verge]

Hole came out and suddenly everyone forgot you have to pick up afk claims on ground. It was quite the show

[tidal cedar]

can my ES have a god that I haven't unlocked yet?

[worthy shoal]

For the harp, better to buy the first new note or the E in the engineer shop ?

[worthy shoal]

No

[tidal cedar]

Thhanks

[worthy shoal]

But Doot gives the effect of not yet unlocked gods.

[timber oasis]

Its probably best to give up on motherlode after while huh? Bravery would probably be worth those hours more

[muted scroll]

i throw in my mining characters in motherlode and the rest in bravery and have one do whatever

[timber oasis]

I can probably get layer 17, but 18 I feel like would take way too long

I only get 3-4m per hour

[muted scroll]

the resource bursting can help a bit from the bonuses but yea. effiecy is a pain to get up

[light whale]

Where can I see all bonuses from idleon majik from conjurer

[timber oasis]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700

[carmine frigate]

Death blossom or double xp explorer?

[dreamy merlin]

i would say explorer

[old jacinth]

I just bought double exp for explore

[pale whale]

Goddamnit.
Thanks, you saved me another wasted AFK, didn't occur to me the claims were tied to it.

[oblique jasper]

Does breedability increase shiny speed?

[tepid wing]

Hey I need a mage and archer to fight king doot I'm on my dk and I'm on demon server 3 so please anyone one help me kill that toilet paper wrapped mummy

[dreamy merlin]

if you stilll need it i can come

[rotund nova]

Does arctis and goharut stack?

[dreamy merlin]

you wont get div gains anywhere if thats what you mean

no lab gains=no div gains

[rotund nova]

Ahh

Sad

[exotic musk]

oh god i thought i lost all my data for a second but it actually just logged me out

cause the game white screened cause i accidently ran out of ram

somethings broken cause i have less stats now

fun

ok nvm it got fixed that was strange

[tepid wing]

yo any archers can go to server 3 for demon i need one to spawn king doot

[leaden grove]

what does the hole majik "monumental vibes" increase? what is a monument bonus?

[bleak gazelle]

bonuses from bravery runs

[leaden grove]

ah. thanks

while we're at it. what is a measurement bonus? ^^

[bleak gazelle]

i think it's 4th villager stuff?

[leaden grove]

oh ok. I dont have that guy yet

[dreamy merlin]

7 cavern is where you find him iirc

[fickle lake]

what do i get for my 10th slot? I alr have 2 bb and 2 dk

[bleak gazelle]

last 3 are normally 2nd dk/es/sb. 2nd ES can be dropped if you have doot. And 2nd SB isn't as necessary due to insane forge cap increases from Hole

so...kind of up to you

[fickle lake]

should i hold off until master class then?

[solid zodiac]

dose divinity matter what character im using, or anything has the same rate. cuz right now i have a divinty bum on that podium

[small crypt]

do I have to tear away rock layer to unlock rooms after room 5

[bleak gazelle]

given that they seem much closer than previously, maybe. can always make it and throw it into lab/div/bravery

[bleak gazelle]

caverns are found by leveling your explorer

[bleak gazelle]

div levels (and style) are character specific, div points (to roll for gods) are account-wide

If you haven't already, check out the 3rd 📌 for a link to a Divinity guide

[solid zodiac]

so i made a new character, and i have him sitting there

thats fine

[bleak gazelle]

make sure you interact with alchemy and construction too

[solid zodiac]

why?

oooh yea

[bleak gazelle]

some skills won't start accumulating xp unless you interact with them

[fair spire]

https://i.imgur.com/26FW8xS.png Why does this give me 1496 skill eff at level 31 and my friend gets +3000 at level 27 talent? What changes it?

[solar drift]

his divinity level is probably higher than yours

and his bubble big P

[bleak gazelle]

It scales in reverse, too. Higher bonus at lower skill level (think w1-3 gathering skills)

[fair spire]

im higher divinity

[solar drift]

oh right

[bleak gazelle]

It's a catchup mechanic, the actual bonus will depend on what skill you're using. I think in town it might just be mining though?

[fair spire]

oh so because im higher mining i get less skill eff

[neon abyss]

does the Monument of bravery stack with each char or does it only count 1 char ?

[strong socket]

Is having multiple cords actually worth anything. Like can you strum them all at 100% or is it still one cord

[bleak gazelle]

essentially, yes. again, i'm not 100% sure what skill the in-town display is based off of, but if you have higher w1-3 skills then you'll get less bonus

[slow cloak]

can you reset majik points from conjuror

[bleak gazelle]

AFK time for Monument bonuses are account wide, as are the bonuses from the Bravery runs

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, you can strum all

[fair spire]

yeah i am higher in most skills that must be it. thanks

[neon abyss]

@bleak gazelle that doesnt answer my question 😄

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, from Cavern 7, though it takes a bit of that caverns currency, may not be worth it right away

[neon abyss]

like 4 chars = 4 hours or 4 chars = 1 hour cause it just count the time

[bleak gazelle]

afk time is account wide, every character adds to it

so if character 1 has 4 hours and character 2 has 5 hours, that's 9 hours you get

[bleak gazelle]

does that explanation make more sense?

[neon abyss]

yeah we were just wondering if this also aplies to the bravery dude , cause he espacially called for ANOTHER CHAR to come

[bleak gazelle]

Initially, all you need to do is have one person afk on the bravery cavern for 1 hour. Then once the timer has passed 1 hour, log back into that character and talk to him again

[neon abyss]

yeah did that and now was my question if it counts towards all hours or just the time passed as it was for activating him

[bleak gazelle]

It'll only be for full hours that are spent on bravery. So character has to be in that cavern. This would give me 20 hours towards the monument bonus

[fickle lake]

when the master classes come will the 11th and 12th slot level requirement be lowered?

[nova lynx]

why not 11 12 and 13 slots?

[bleak gazelle]

no clue

[fickle lake]

i assume its only 3 classes atm because farming, summoning and sneaking.

unless its completely different and the master classes unlocks in w5 and the hole is connected to some eldrich horror that buffs our characters

[nova lynx]

yes and we have an extra warr, arch, and mage already. if you want a 'new' slot for each new class dropped... why not add 3 slots?

but we can assume new classes are a tier higher (tab 5 talents) so we don't even need new char slots for them 🤷

[fickle lake]

wonder what would be vman master class

[nova lynx]

pretty sure the datamined name from a long time ago was Infinitnyte or something

He will only buff the hole

[fickle lake]

I have a gut feeling that archer master class will be released first

[silk scaffold]

Hey guys, is there any site that shows which items we can craft with another item?
For example: copper bar
List of items that can be crafted with it:
Wooden spear
Orange tee
Etc...

[peak verge]

!wiki

[obtuse orbit]

Here is the link to the Legends of Idleon wiki. It contains incredibly valuable info that will help you progress faster and more efficiently! https://idleon.wiki/

[red mauve]

(base class upgrades are on the update list)

[silk scaffold]

Yes, but in this site we need to find the items. I mean a complete list with all possible crafts or something like that

[peak verge]

You see everything the item is involved in, on that item's page.

All that can be crafted can be found in the Anvil/Craft page.

[silk scaffold]

Can you send me this link?

[low trail]

One silly question.
Does this give me divinity points while having arctis on?

[peak verge]

It is quite literally, the wiki for the item you want.

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Copper_Bar

[solar drift]

"tutorial how to use Wiki"

type the thing you want to search

[fickle lake]

Yes

[solar drift]

is not that hard

[fickle lake]

Man my stamp progression is so bad

[low trail]

Let's go free divinity point gaming

[fickle lake]

why would you do that though….

[peak verge]

If you're manually connected to the lab, yes. You will not get divinity from anywhere just from having it on.

[red mauve]

I have bad news.

[rapid locust]

so how do you use this harp? im at like 700% but i dont really see anything to click on lol

[low trail]

oh

[fickle lake]

the strings itself.

[peak verge]

Doesn't work like that.

[silk scaffold]

Got it, thank you guys

[low trail]

then gotta stick to other gods then

[rapid locust]

oh i must not have seen something, ty i'll go check!

[fickle lake]

remember, C string is for more notes.

[low trail]

thx for info btw

[peak verge]

Nah, stay on goat until everyone is divinity lvl 40 (and one lvl 50), then you can swap out.

[low trail]

I'm already over 80. I was just farming for god ranks

[peak verge]

Ah, that's a different matter.

[rotund nova]

How is bucket fill rate calculated

I feel there is a mistake somewhere

Or not all the details are listed on the upgrades

[bleak gazelle]

best bet would be asking in #endgame-gen-chat or check out #1303761365273415700 or ping trickz about it if you're already looked through that

[peak verge]

If number go up, is good. That's all I need.

[tidal cedar]

balloons and candy don't seem to work for divinity, does anything?

[red mauve]

Biggie hours and luck.

[tidal cedar]

Thanks

[jade fossil]

why is it only one God?

[red mauve]

Unlock the enhance upgrade and enhance it.

[jade fossil]

where?

[red mauve]

Village tree.

[bleak gazelle]

3rd blue

[stuck river]

Morning chat

[harsh basin]

anyone know why sometimes I have instant plants in gaming and other times it's not?

was trying to grind out some chem plants and now it's slow to get plants growing

[bleak gazelle]

Shenanigans with how farming bonus for gaming is calculated
#endgame-chat-w7🐟 message
Can use the calculator to figure out when you're affected by the issue, but in general, the answer is just get more speed
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YBZq9t_XTnhxN-Cz0P1VMTNsZs_gAM4jFyMB3n7lBi8/edit?gid=350248259#gid=350248259

[tough bear]

if i getr 200% afk gains rate, does that mean that i only mine half of this per hour active?

[harsh basin]

okay I mean my speed for gaming is pretty high but I'll check that out

[hollow pond]

How come my minerlode mining/hr changes sometimes. For example, before I logged off it says 27m/hr

Logged back on after an hour. It was 15m/hr

My mining efficiency stayed the same o.o

[bleak gazelle]

did you have mining food equipped the first time?

[hollow pond]

Nope

[small lantern]

I figured the 3rd would be for ping, guess not?

[hollow pond]

Only golden peanuts

Weird as hell. I didn't change any cards, equips, or vman

[high mesa]

Ok, so how to you play the harp? I have 12,000 harp power …

[bleak gazelle]

if you fully exited the game, it may be differences in how some buffs are calculated, normally if you swap characters and go back to that miner it'll recalculated everything to get you back to what you were at

slide your mouse/finger over it

[small lantern]

click + drag across the wires

[hollow pond]

I see. Hm

So how would I get it back higher :/. Idk if this is glitched

Im wondering if it's cuz I'm on mobile

[bleak gazelle]

cloud save, try logging into a few characters and check again? like i said

[hollow pond]

Got it

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, that's also a possibility. mobile is uhh...not friendly to this game

[hollow pond]

I'll try that. Thanks!

LOL yah.

[bleak gazelle]

and then check all the other normal things, lab links, vman talent preset, cards/sets/obols/starsigns/chips

[hollow pond]

Cuz when I go to copper ore. It says -1.6b/hr

Probably stupid mobile

[small lantern]

oh nice this was after mithril

[noble ridge]

how do i get to be able to give him over 1k rocks?

[bleak gazelle]

oh, yeah, that definitely sounds like you're hitting overflow if it went negative

[bleak gazelle]

buy the expander schematic from the engineer

[noble ridge]

how do u even get to this lol

[bleak gazelle]

level your explorer so he unlocks new caverns, then find the engineer on the ground of one of them

[noble ridge]

i just now seen this,

[hollow pond]

I think another theory is that, every layer you break lowers the AMT/hr

[small lantern]

pretty sure that's just less prowess tiers since you need higher eff

[bleak gazelle]

yes, the efficiency required goes up so your prowess bonus goes down

[hollow pond]

Ah yes. Maybe that's why I'm tripping haha

[primal pumice]

Don't think IT or IE are ready for Artics from the hole. It shows I have everything offline when I don't

[young chasm]

what are monuments?

[red mauve]

The bravery statue is a monument.

[turbid plaza]

Just used weeks of nugget luck build up just to go from 220k to 270k

[red mauve]

I have like 1200 failed rolls atm. I gave up on gameing and am not happy I have a reason to do it again.

[turbid plaza]

You can check failed rolls?

[torn orchid]

Do candy work in the hole

[turbid plaza]

Nope

[stuck river]

Ladies and gentlemen, we got em

[turbid plaza]

Too dark

[turbid plaza]

Gimme

[red mauve]

IT has the stat.

[bleak gazelle]

@pastel kayak

[noble ridge]

use or keep stacking?

[lost plank]

How do I go about grinding plant spirals

I need chemical plants, which I haven't unlocked yet

[pastel kayak]

Stalker alert

[bleak field]

what do I do with harp? only thing i can click seems locked

[sick sentinel]

Wait for 100%+ on the top left then drag and strum the strings

[urban pelican]

Does ther bear god work with the goat one ?

with the new hole magick

[bleak gazelle]

Clear board, roll; use sprinkler, clear, roll; use log, clear, roll, use sprinkler, clear, roll
Quantity > quality, rolling at lower % is best

[sick sentinel]

Pick plants, then research. Most efficient is to roll low odds since it falls off pretty hard

[lost plank]

With or without rock

[bleak gazelle]

i mean, rock makes plants spawn faster...so yes?

bit gain doesn't affect chem chance

[orchid wraith]

4 bell clean claims and still no new method 😞

[still delta]

Does anyone know how to beat the rifts where it says kill a lava skull mob. I have no clue how they work and just randomly kill till it works but it takes hours that way

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle had 123 green stacks but upgraded some stamps and bubbles and got a new stamp in world 6 last night

[sick sentinel]

Each time you kill a skull mob it has a 50% chance to spread and upgrade to a new mob. Do that until you kill a lava tier. Can do it manually or take off some aoe talents so you don't kill the whole map too quick

[terse verge]

If you can wait until you get engi bonus to increase odds on failure, i would wait before you invest too much time into cleaning

[fair spire]

Is Deathbloom Flower Pendant any good? The one in shop right now

compared to the dungeon one with 30% multikill

[velvet thistle]

Get greenstack

Then u can use the surplus

[burnt panther]

Ah what i couldnt use my rethrows? just made me lose with 100 damage off 😦 monument is weird

[red mauve]

You can only RR one at at time. Also the last one only if it has a chance of wining.

[burnt panther]

Oh man i wish i knew that before spam clicking them

[red mauve]

Now you know.

[burnt panther]

had such a good haul :()

[red mauve]

They are 5 total not 5 per fight.

[bleak gazelle]

miles better than dungeon one, but for most uses the divine scarf will be better. still good to help you push to w6 (and some edge cases with ES portal and now Den runs in the Hole), but it mostly becomes +1 slab

[fair spire]

thanks

[burnt panther]

I spam clicked the swords to fight. What you're saying is that if i left the last one I could have rolled the rest, but since i clicked them all and the last one wasnt able to win me the fight it just said i lost instead of being able to roll the other 4 as well..

[bleak gazelle]

How does sword re-throw work in Bravery?
The re-throw option is only for a singular sword, not for whole encounters. You are allowed up to 5 per story telling attempt (once every 20 hours - which can be sped up using lanterns). Once you are facing a more difficult encounter, you will want to: only roll 1 sword, let the animation finish, and then you will see the option to re-throw that sword.
If you click a new sword, you will have locked in the previous sword's attempt and cannot re-throw it any longer.
TL:DR - don't faceroll all 5 swords

[red mauve]

Active BM best in slot!

[bleak gazelle]

gonna push shinies to 100 now

[burnt panther]

Yeah, exactly what I did. 😦

[bleak gazelle]

i lost a 1.7x multi run with some nice bonuses, set me back

[red mauve]

Its ok everyone seems to full send it at first. Even if everyone had that info they would still be reckless until getting burned.

[stable temple]

Yay. What happens if I try to brew more bubbles after this?

[bleak gazelle]

you can unlock w7/8 bubbles

well, "pre-unlock"

[stable temple]

Did w6 raise the level of these boosts?

If w6 raised, then we would assume w7/8 raises too right?

[vast canopy]

wat damage is this reffering to?

[stable temple]

Hmm, should I try to preunlock w7 then? Or just stop CCing and do other things and put my charas on sigils instead

[terse verge]

No one knows right now. We are all stuck with x1.09

[next sphinx]

Just unlocked world 5, can you not use candy or baloons on divinity?

[terse verge]

Pre-unlocking is something that shouldn’t have priority. I would go ahead and finish the speed boost, at the very least least - then work on everything else you might have to do. W7 and w8 preunlocks should be at bottom of list

[terse verge]

No time skips work on divinity - no balloon, no candy, no pearl

[next sphinx]

Dam

and the chars have to be actively meditating to get exp/divinity right?

[terse verge]

Meditating or in lab with goat linked

[stable temple]

Yeah if w7 preunlock isn't worth I'm just going to max out my upgrades then switch to sigils after finishing all cauldrons. I only maxed purple so far still have the other 3 to go

[empty wharf]

Just entered w5.

[umbral idol]

When I strum the harp while tuned to a natural note, im not getting any notes?

[empty wharf]

Divinity or hole?

[stuck river]

Hole is more like a late game thing, it helps but not much, Divinity first always

[stable temple]

Hole is an early game thing, unlock it asap before going to divinity

It's just a few maps from the starting anyway

[red mauve]

Unlock hole first but you only need one char to do that.

You still need to unlock gods.

[empty wharf]

So 1 hole and all divinity.

[stable temple]

Unlock the hole with 1 character, to start gathering rocks and unlocking the other caverns, then go back to divinity

[weary hinge]

does the expand-o-rama bonus work even in afk?

[stuck river]

Iirc yes, but it only expands once when you enter the game, so no matter you afk for 20 minutes or 2 months, it'll only expand once if it can

(By afk I mean like cloudsaving and exiting the game)

[weary hinge]

aight thanks

[median flare]

wait guys I have a question

if I link everyone to arctis

and then put pocket watch on goharut

will I get perm lab and divinity?

[vagrant plover]

when you kill doots do you want to be on dk or vman

[still delta]

Does anyone know if there’s a specific class that’s better at getting boss drops?

[bleak gazelle]

vman is usually best for bosses, DK for minibosses

[still delta]

What class is best for farming world 4,5 boss keys

[stuck river]

*minibosses that can stack up orb beforehand

[bleak gazelle]

W4 probably ES, W5 you can do DK or Bubo. ES might net higher raw keys but you miss out on all the other benefits

[sleek tree]

what is Lamp wish?

[livid raft]

how do I hold more then 100rocks?

[solar drift]

[bleak gazelle]

do i want to rest my farming again?

i probably should so I can start clicking bubbles

[solar drift]

Use your pocket

[bleak gazelle]

there's an engineer schematic that lets you expand, if you bought it, make sure you turn it on

[livid raft]

Tried that my pants fell off 😦

[bleak gazelle]

cavern 7 mechanic

[solar drift]

[sleek tree]

ty

[warm path]

always good to reset if you have the tickets and sanity

[livid raft]

Ahh I had purchased it but capped out again didn't realize I had to "turn" it on 😒 lol

[bleak gazelle]

but that's so much work

plenty of tickets

yee

[warm path]

i only need to reset once or twice a month so its not much of an issue for me

but if you hoard tickets you just keep pushing it away

[bleak gazelle]

230 tickets

lul, i apparently stoped collecting too soon

i had two 2m OGs that traded for more than that

[signal glade]

Am I doing something wrong, farming for the Fist weapon off Sugmas? I've been farming for like a week and it hasn't dropped.

[stable temple]

The droprate is super low so it's expected. What chara are you farming with?

[signal glade]

2.2m kills / hr, 162T dmg, Drop 16.23x, 8600 multikill, 22.5x multi

doing it on siege breaker atm, because im farming bars

but i've tried DK and ES as well

[stable temple]

Multikill doesn't matter at all, you should swap to ES

[bleak gazelle]

you can kind of guage how many kills you have by the amount of royal urns you've got. average for a recipe drop should be 1k urns, but plenty of people have farmed ~4k+

[modest tendon]

Anyone know what it means by 10 highest damage?

[heady plover]

Is it possible to 3d print hampster?

[bleak gazelle]

You can only sample the top left/main drop

active ES farming is the best way for hampter drops

[heady plover]

So it is gonna take awhile to level up the vial

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, the rare drop vials are basically the only ones you can't max atm

[heady plover]

Guess it would make sense to put it on the backburner and not focus on it. Should I go for level 4 for rare vials? Or focus on none rare first

[bleak gazelle]

i'd leave it, by the time you're thinking about doing it, you don't need the damage bonus from it

now, if you're done with all the crafting that you need hampters for, then feel free to

but plenty of other things to focus on

about 150m beans from that trade run

[hollow pond]

Is motherlode better for active or AFK

[orchid wraith]

so is it normal for the monument story to just randomly end despite still having rethrows ???

[red mauve]

You can only RR one at a time. You cant RR your last throw if you cant win.

As in clicking sword 2 LOCKS sword one.

[orchid wraith]

My max dmg is 800 something and it had 450 left and then just ended without even letting me roll lol

[weary citrus]

Do we know what the bonus for praying are_

?

[rose roost]

How does mantra divide style work?
I had 8 guys on the mantra and only got 37 exp in 11 hours.

[gilded sedge]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubo's lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[glass forum]

how do you increase the reward multiplier of the bravery statue?

[vale bluff]

Hello

[solar seal]

its simply time-based - its a way to not punish running bravery story telling on cd

[strong socket]

Just don't fail or you get punished

[glass forum]

was so greedy i got 2 opals and thought i can hit a total of 68 to get more rewards.. how good of me i got 67 instead and lost all of it

[strong socket]

The sins of greed is our downfall once more

[steep crystal]

Can anyone eli5 the harp

[empty wharf]

What's best to farm first? Card drop rate, DR obols? And who to use?

[red mauve]

Farm cards on ES, normal mob drop on ES and any crystal drop on DK.

[frosty tundra]

Should this be turned off when removing rock layer? Or does it not affect it?

[mint wing]

no clue, can u tell me what the purple removing rocks layer does though lol? have not figured it out yet

[graceful fern]

Unlock new well resources

Also expand full bars doesnt effect rock layer itself

[nova heath]

Is there rlly no way to boost the base 60% for cleaning the bell? I've already failed 4 times

[tidal cedar]

what is the base sailing loot pile capacity?

[slate vector]

There is later on

But yeah you are just unlucky

[nova heath]

Bruh this rng

[bleak gazelle]

blessed rng

[rich stratus]

woohoo
still no where near 75 but an upgrade from the 33 i had before

[granite charm]

Once the rock layer is removed it will start mining the new resource so you generally want it on

[rich stratus]

||can anyone tell me what the enhance button next to pocket div is?||

[bleak gazelle]

||buy blue 3, then you can spend points to enhance other unlocks. enhancing first green gives you another pocket div link||

[rich stratus]

ahhhhhh i see
so because it says 1/1 for me it means i did it already lol
oops

[dreamy merlin]

||was adding a spoiler really neccesary for the whole discussion||

[rich stratus]

i dont know what stage of progression people r at in the hole
i havent found the fourth dude yet even tho many have

[dreamy merlin]

that guys all the way down in cavern 7

[rich stratus]

dammit im 1 off
i just unlocked harp and have no idea how it works

[dreamy merlin]

basically same

its a very sad harp for me, only 1 string

[rich stratus]

same

[bleak gazelle]

my buckets are sad cause i messed up a double bravery run

[dreamy merlin]

im still curious about how strong bravery is gonna become

it seems like it has too much potential

[rich stratus]

especially with all the upgrades from afk hours

[solar seal]

|| hi ||

[dreamy merlin]

||hi kaito||

[solar seal]

[dreamy merlin]

|| ||

[rich stratus]

why must my vman suck so much compared to other dudes
still an alright increase

[dreamy merlin]

those are some sad vman samples

[rich stratus]

im working on it

to be fair my oak sample is like 130m for scale

[glass forum]

man i accidentally bought the 2x exp for the measurer dude instead of the explorer

guess hes very far

[dreamy merlin]

apparently its good to have for him at least

[glass forum]

[fluid gazelle]

What's the downside to using unending loot search talent?

[stable parrot]

I keep noticing people falling into the hole, how do I do that too?

[bleak gazelle]

think it's just visual when you teleport down

[stable parrot]

boats wont wait in the docks anymore, cutting your chest count down a lot, like if you have 10 loot pile slots and 15 boats without the talent you can open 25 chests but with the talent its only 10 chests, and with sailing you want quantity over quality

[fluid gazelle]

Oh I see, thanks

[empty wharf]

Getting these talent sucks then.

Aw man.

[oblique jasper]

What’s the spice meta? The guide sheet ends at w5 spices

[bleak gazelle]

check w6 guide or trialpears sheets

[oblique jasper]

Alright thanks

[haughty badger]

is motherlode only in active mode, i waited few h afk it said 2 mio ore but the ore remaining stayed the same

[tame wyvern]

Anyone else somehow wind up with negative opals and know how the hell to fix it?

[bleak gazelle]

#💖future-content-blog

[bleak gazelle]

gotta pick up the ore that drops when claiming afk

[strong nova]

motherlode cant afk ?

[ember ermine]

already got nerfed two days in

[junior arrow]

and so it begins

[zinc torrent]

hello guys if i bought some of this and use it then later if i plan to reset talent points does it also included to the total points?

[tame wyvern]

Thanks

[low skiff]

OH no. I didnt know how to use me rerolls so it jsut ended the run and i lost. lame (hole)

[hearty folio]

So I'm at like 50k rock bevause I thought remove layer was for the motherlode and never clicked it lolol

[onyx flax]

How long should it take you to get to lvl 40 divinity, I know it is dependent on a lot of factors but how long on average does it take. I feel like its taking forever but I'm also just a super impatient person.

[fierce cargo]

like 3 weeks

[onyx flax]

dam yeah its taking about that

thanks

[fierce cargo]

the positive is that afterwords, you don't have to think about it anymore

[turbid plaza]

Except for getting one char lvl 50 div

[fierce cargo]

tranqi will get him there

[onyx flax]

hope so

[turbid plaza]

Slowly

[low skiff]

I jsut took like 3 months off the game and sat evryone in lab with goharut. for free

[fierce cargo]

there is a disconnect in lab/divinity/hole that sitting in an altar doesn't mean account progress in the traditional sense

it feels bad to watch numbers go up slowly

but regardless it is acc progress

[turbid plaza]

Yeah I bet it’s tough having to decide whether to prioritize hole or div/lab for the people who haven’t done it yet

[onyx flax]

i play idleon way to actively so its just a bit painful to sit and wait hahaha

[fierce cargo]

so dont

if you're online an active, just do what you want to do

[onyx flax]

yeah im leaving the hole for a bit just doing the daily story thing

[fierce cargo]

when you're gone/afk send the to div

if you don't have doot then just accept the pain

[solar drift]

i mean he dont have to with hole anymore

[fierce cargo]

it's the perfect time to work on other systems that take time too

[solar drift]

if you already unlock goat, you should get to the 3rd villager in the hole so you can get free links

[onyx flax]

no doot i cry

[low skiff]

man im still like 110 off of doot

[onyx flax]

ooo thankyou

[turbid plaza]

I got doot at like 80 rolls

[deft iris]

tbh with the new hole god linking you don't even need doot

[fierce cargo]

yea yea zero, go fus

[low skiff]

still for the extra damage on all characters is pretty good. and free afk gains. exta money

god knows i need coins

[turbid plaza]

It’s nothing much, some people got it <5 rolls

I’m at godshard coins and still desperate for more

[fierce cargo]

now with hole, you need even more

[turbid plaza]

Bell is greedy

The bell operator taking quintillions of coins just to ring it a little faster is downright evil

[rich stratus]

Lucky
I’m at 86 no doot
Which is still better than most so I can’t be too unhappy
I’ll be unhappy at like 150

[turbid plaza]

87 is your number

I can tell

[low skiff]

wait how many rolls to get guarenteed doot again

200 rolls?\

[fierce cargo]

like 700

[turbid plaza]

20200

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-penguins-penguin-love-penguin-hug-slapping-gif-24271495

[fierce cargo]

200 is only the last tier

[low skiff]

^

[solar drift]

no is 200 combine

[fierce cargo]

like over 9000 at least

[solar drift]

from every tier to guaranteed the first time

[low skiff]

no 200 is last tier only

[turbid plaza]

Give him another whack shiro

[solar drift]

yes but you dont start at 0 on tier 5

[low skiff]

ooh fuk rly?

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-penguins-penguin-love-penguin-hug-slapping-gif-24271495

[low skiff]

i stoopid

[fierce cargo]

that's my fav gift from shiro

[solar drift]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/584832556998983680/1045091026269896798/1033731986193403954.gif

[fierce cargo]

how you know what i like so well

[turbid plaza]

Me too but I’ve never been whacked by shiro plz whack me shiro🥺

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-umm-what-what-gif-14694719

[turbid plaza]

[fierce cargo]

fuk

it went perfect too

[thorny girder]

hello

has anyone done a renwewing bell

or know on what happens when you do so

[torn orchid]

Can you use candies on divinity

[zinc torrent]

how to unlock the engineer?

[solar drift]

Wait did you get extra upgrade + extra stats?

[bleak gazelle]

cavern 5

[bleak gazelle]

#1303761365273415700 message

[fierce cargo]

read?

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle main now

[undone wagon]

Is ur dmg cards on?

Afk/active Fighting preset

If yes then I'm amazed

[pastel kayak]

Yes and is more when not in world 6

[undone wagon]

Bruhhhh

How.

You have more class lv, more STR stat, better gear, better sword but my dmg is still higher than u

Even without death blossom pendent on

I'm not using emperor card

[bleak gazelle]

She can't play much, so she takes progression at her own pace

[undone wagon]

Does that mean I can finally come back to push w6?

Cuz I didn't visit last map for like 1 month with pusher

[fierce cargo]

i dunno, but it's perfect to me

[empty wharf]

Best strategy on unlocking divinity?

[undone wagon]

Go for the lowest sacrifice untill a 100% appear

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle yep some days not allowed in game at all cause of the pain

https://deirdreamber.idleonefficiency.com/ @bleak gazelle updated less then a hour

[south vault]

is it worth destroying motherlode later after mining about 50b worth on layer 5?

[muted violet]

does being linked to a god through the hole bonus give minor link bonuses? (not doot read that in pins)

[worldly lagoon]

apparently the buff u get from motherload long-term is pretty much irrelevant

[empty wharf]

I did it sucks. XD

[sage urchin]

why ur class exp so low

[pastel kayak]

Can not always play so I level up at my own pace

[nova crow]

Im so bored I cant play anything 🤣

[worldly lagoon]

yeah this whole not being able to do anything but hole thing is fine cuz the gains are good but now i like... am losing interest xD

[rose ravine]

can i afk in motherlode ??

[empty wharf]

Agree. Kinda sad

[nova crow]

Meh, good to take a break - it is idle after all

[nova crow]

I mean we can use someone active, its just not "optimal"

[worldly lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-gif-7763054

[empty wharf]

There's many things I wanna do but this divinity is worse than lab.

[grand path]

whats the new card for w5?

[tame copper]

who is the best god for the hole's pocket divinity?

[fair kiln]

Allo I'm new here:D

[grand path]

hellooo 🙂

[fair kiln]

:DD

[hot shell]

i have -2 opals

how can that be i just unlocked the harp

[tame copper]

read hiis most recent patch note, he did a hotfix because some people were getting more opals than they were supposed to be getting or something

i think from the bravery statue thing maybe?

[hot shell]

oh ithougt i did something

[tame copper]

nah hahaha if you reset your opal points it goes back to the correct number

[hot shell]

that would be along time but i guess it is what it is

[upbeat breach]

Am i missing something my Exploere unlocked glowshroom tunnels but i cant click onto cavern 6 i only see 1-5

[tame copper]

i think you gotta level again to get the next one

im in the same boat

[viral heron]

[neon fog]

if I lose the monument story, do I lose all the bonuses I have collected during that run?

[gilded sedge]

Yes

[dry crypt]

You do. The first time you get a pass and he let's you redo for 1/3 of the reward. But otherwise yes it is lost

[neon fog]

perfect, thanks!

[faint wigeon]

I went first harriep

[graceful tundra]

how do i increase divinity xp? some classes are getting more than others

[peak relic]

i logged in and i have - 4 opals , did anyone know something ?

[graceful tundra]

new patch

[solar drift]

#💖future-content-blog message

[faint wigeon]

Different mantra give different amount of xp and point

[peak verge]

ES naturally gets more from talent.

[upper stone]

Can anyone tell me why I can't level up my divinity god rank? I'm at level 3 and I have 282,151,548 divinity points and nothing happens when I press the 10% and 50% success buttons.

[peak verge]

show pic

[solar drift]

are you on mobile ?

you mioght have a overflow issues

[warm holly]

Do the 2x kill count from Nobisect and Killer's brightside only work for active kills or do afk gains also contribute double to portals/death note?

[peak verge]

They work on both.

[warm holly]

Thanks delgado

[peak verge]

You're welcome Ramrod.

[upper stone]

@solar drift I'm on mobile mostly but I've tried on my computer too.

[ornate zinc]

What should i prioritze in the bonusses tab (camp. The hole)

[solar drift]

then send screenshot if you can

[ornate zinc]

Theres already pins for it? Dang

[solar drift]

a guide*

[peak verge]

There's a whole hole guide.

[graceful tundra]

weirdly enough my bubo is getting the most

[peak verge]

Different styles?

[upper stone]

I cant add an attachment to chat. The + sign is greyed out so it won't let me add a pic

[peak verge]

!image

[obtuse orbit]

Why can't I send images?

For moderation purposes, images are not able to be sent until you reach the Copper Bar - Lv.1 (Lv.3 for #1073780959087964210 ). To level up in the discord, just hang out and talk for a bit. Every minute, you will get xp as long as you sent a message. Spamming will not level you up faster, so please don't do it. Try !rank in #bot-commands to see what level you are.

[upper stone]

O I C

I guess this is the first time joining the official discord and I've been playing it for years. I had completely forgot about the god ranks and hadn't checked it, in who knows how long.

[peak verge]

It do be like that sometimes. Plenty of useful guides and such around.

[cursive forge]

this is taking so long

[deft iris]

But based on the fact you can link 3 gods on any character using the hole and 4 on es, the usefullness of doot goes down a ton, it's like not even really a go to super op thing anymore, it's not only some nice smaller gains

[nova crow]

Not super OP I agree, but it is QoL + more

[thorny silo]

Anyone else run into the issue where it says D note gives 99% chance for Opal, I get one, its there in the Harp menu under opals found, but when going to Camp, there is zero in the Invest menu?

[teal lynx]

Did you have a negative amount of opals? -> #💖future-content-blog

[thorny silo]

Not that I have noticed, Every opal so far been invested