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[fervent yew]

click and hold

[solar seal]

if you were afk for a while (so long as your DK wasn't on godshard the whole time), it won't be too difficult to get your vman back to #1. later nodes always give better xp so long as you can hit 1x eff req, it shouldn't take too long to recover. now if your dk was on godshard the whole time, that might be a different story

[atomic slate]

Right good to hear, it wasnt a crazy high ore luckily, just struggling to catch up atm might just have to look into increasing my efficiency. Thanks

[solar drift]

you have to go crazy with ccd if dk was on godshard the whole time

[fervent yew]

there comes a point where your daily crystal cooldown - 80% skill xp to level will outpace any gains your DK might make, just takes awhile, make sure you're maxing out that each time you afk your VW for skill xp

[rotund lance]

What character does one need to pay respect in caverns 4 in the hole

Cuz I have disrespected him 4 times already and it's getting less funny

[solar drift]

maybe you sohuldnt leave the statue map

[ocean glen]

Is that how it works?

[rotund lance]

For real

[solar drift]

well yes, it say swap your character

[rotund lance]

-_-

[solar drift]

not go away and swap your character does it

[rotund lance]

Ay
Says come back in an hour 2

[solar drift]

swap to a different character -> return to this one after 1 hour

[rotund lance]

Omg

Ty

Cuz my last 2 brain cell ain't figuring that out anytime soon

[nova lynx]

Lol whoops

[solar drift]

well i hope you know how to reset amplfier at hounds

[rotund lance]

Just hold em

Got that down after 2 tries

[solar drift]

good, because people lost their reading ability and reading comprenhension ability with the hole update

[bleak echo]

people havent had it for a very very long time to be fair

[bleak gazelle]

You don't lose anything when dying in other parts of the game

[solar drift]

ye but it got worse with hole update

[rotund lance]

Ain't my native language and dyslectic I ain't even gone try

[solar drift]

i do, MY HONOR

https://tenor.com/view/zuko-haircut-zuko-haircut-honor-avatar-gif-20012304

@rotund lance look at w6 chat

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/941384512510754836/1178644424822104107/IMG_5799.gif?ex=6576e529&is=65647029&hm=6b6098fb134607c331fe4af9e354ddc05cf2e42ea4fc747c2dd4bbaca6bdf331&

[tired gorge]

Hay yo thanks to me grinding I got mistro to 150 and now I can have my maestro turn into a v man

It took forever

Days of grinding

Weeks even

I played idle on since the equinox update

[bitter pasture]

how does that 1st cavern work?

once i clear the material bar i move on to the other?

[bleak gazelle]

You gather material to purchase engineer upgrades, so depending on your engineer level (unlocked in cavern 2?), that will determine if you need to move up a level (by breaking the rock layer)

[bitter pasture]

i can go back to the first layer to farm more mats?

i thought it wouldnt give me anything since its empty

[bleak gazelle]

it's a bar that you fill, not deplete

[bitter pasture]

and what happens once the bar is filled? i get access to the next layer?

[terse verge]

There is “purple rocks” which tells you how many you have to gather to unlock that material and then get access to next “purple rock” barrier

Think of it like ore portals in mini form

[bitter pasture]

alright

i can still grind a layer once its filled right

[terse verge]

You can but unless you have engi upgrade to expand - they wont do anything

[bitter pasture]

alright thanks

[unborn trench]

is the kitsune rock in gaming only good if ur able to check every 4-6 hours? like if im gone for half the day is it even worth using still

[terse verge]

Unless you just got it and have little to no upgrades pumped into it, that is usually when most will keep it off. At decent levels of upgrade, you’ll easily counterbalance the negative and be very far net positive in gains

[vestal mauve]

are there any other increases to bell lvl 2 chance other than "double dinger ringer" from engineer?

[terse verge]

Too early to know as most folks are still leveling. A lot of info won’t be widely public until good chunk of players have reached it so likely in about a week or so we’d have a better answer but keep checking the hole 📌 as it is constantly getting updated

[pseudo olive]

which is the best bonuses to píck in Cavern 4?

[gilded sedge]

Kaito is effi bonus from engineer multiplicative or additive

[terse verge]

Dunno

[terse verge]

Most are leaning, opal, bucket fill, villager xp

[vernal relic]

what the better reward here?

[terse verge]

Opal

[vernal relic]

and what does this do? and is it good?

[gilded sedge]

Unlocks new ore

[tropic pecan]

Is this for all characters everytime?

[terse verge]

But the minor link bonuses are a bit fussy - so generally most are true linking to bear (1 purrmep) and then pocket with harriep/omni/goat/snake/nobi as needed

[hushed quiver]

with the statue that asks you to come back after an hour. i don't get it, so i switch to another character then after an hour i come back, i did that but not an exact hour and it didn't do anything, does it have to be an exact hour?

[signal osprey]

No, just at least an hour.

[hushed quiver]

so now that i switched to another character i just have to wait an hour switch back to the first character and then talk to it?

[wild kite]

Went from like 16 to 25 spamming and never went down (I think i go down to 15)

[hushed quiver]

can i close the game or does it need to stay open?

[terse verge]

you need a full hour in one go without interruption. Cant be cut short, can’t do it in segments.

[hushed quiver]

well i talked to him yesterday switched to another character and came back today, that's more than an hour (closed the game so maybe that's it) but it didn't do it? therefor my confusion

[echo crag]

you need to afk there on a different character than the one you talked to him originally

also the statue is basically fractal island 2.0

[meager wigeon]

do I need 80 x 1 h, 1x 80 h or are both valid for second upgrade?

[velvet thistle]

I think a total pf 80 hours

Not in one afk session

Be aware that only full hours count towards ur progress

U can see ur hours when you click the statue

[meager wigeon]

yeah but 4 afk h do they count 4 times?

[echo crag]

yes each character will count

[velvet thistle]

If you have 4 characters do 10 hours each you get 40h of progress towards the next one

[modern plaza]

nah just all bravery

[bleak gazelle]

Good job on unlocking Maestro, now work on getting him to rank 1 in your W1-3 gathering skills.

• Fishing - idle at the equinox node till ~30 then head over to Seasalt Island, that should easily get your past your BB
• The rest of your skills are going to be a bit rougher since levels required will be higher and you don't have the Multitool stamp yet
• Book the Right Hand of Action talent, it is perhaps the most important skilling talent Mman has
• Be careful when using Transfusion, if you drop below ~95% efficiency, it may not be worth using

Things to do now

• Get your Maestro to rank 2 in Chopping, then go ahead and resample mining and chopping.
• Once you get your fishing above your BB, resample fishing
• Equip 3 star signs on all characters
• Equip cards on your last two characters
• Purchase anvil points for mob mats, W1-3 should be fairly farmable with your ES. Move everyone onto Pinion Spurs (triple stack) to make sure you have enough for the next Choco Chip
• Work on unlocking the Cheese Meal, you only need 100 for Choco, but you don't have it unlocked yet, if you can get the Sand Shark and purple soul vials, those will help unlocking and cooking it
• Work on skill levels across the board - higher levels means more talent points and better tools for more base stats, these small upgrades are what increase damage
• Keep working on your stamps and bubbles - try to get the 18th bubble unlocked on all cauldrons, this gives access to Diamond Chef for cooking as well as afk gains for skilling. If you're still pushing with ES (recommend swapping to DK/Bubo), then you may need to bump your accuracy, so work on Agi bubble/Shaq

Things to consider

• I'd still hold off on building Atom Collider, at least until you sample and see what your new rates are. Currently you're very far away from producing any atoms
• Try getting the Frost Relic sailing artifact for another sample boost
• Try getting to Rift 16 to unlock skill mastery

[cursive elk]

does sword monument hours increase per character? example 2 characters level it twice as fast

[drowsy hinge]

is there any recommended opal allocation?

[storm timber]

I have a question .To reset the amplifier you just need to hold it down right?

[low bridge]

is this good?

[silk scaffold]

Hey guys, is there a place to check the cosmo bonuses? At least the first ones 🙂

[storm timber]

But why won't it let me reset the amplifier.

[terse verge]

10 into each of first two seems pretty safe - opinions start to vary from there on

[bleak gazelle]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700

[terse verge]

Click once to select and then hold

[drowsy hinge]

interesting, thanks!

[storm timber]

It does nothing, it just adding the amplifier not resetting

[terse verge]

Hold longer

[storm timber]

I don't know why but I need to hold it more than a minute for it to start working

[onyx gazelle]

So uh, do I afk here for an hour then swap? Or do I swap then afk somewhere else? or wot

[bleak gazelle]

are you on mobile or pc?

[terse verge]

Afk there

[onyx gazelle]

With just 1 char, right?

[bleak gazelle]

might as well throw most of your people there

[onyx gazelle]

[terse verge]

You need 1 full hour afk without interuption to start. But it is like fractal island where you’ll want to throw everyone there to get the early hours in to unlock easy bonuses

[onyx gazelle]

Well, haven't unlocked the goat yet so all my guys are still on div

[pseudo olive]

With the new "Resource bursting" we will be able to achieve 600% multi chance for every resource just with alch bubs? or they have a hard cap on the % they give

[sage urchin]

which one should i choose?

[wide niche]

oh god i was just about to ask that question. are the bonuses permanent? rerollable?

[sage urchin]

idk

[bleak gazelle]

permanent until you lose a run
I think general consensus atm is opal > bfr > w/e

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[hallow swallow]

Those rewards are technically infinite

[sage urchin]

oh ok so opal > bfr > other

[terse verge]

Village xp is good too, some will prio it more than bfr but generally those 3

[bleak gazelle]

i don't think i've come across it yet

did 5/6 levels on this run, got 1 opal and the rest bfr

[sage urchin]

do you guys use 3d printer for monster drop vials or use active es ??

[echo crag]

es generally

[sick sentinel]

vman speedrun prints for ones he can reach

[echo crag]

that too

[sage urchin]

this my vman monster print

its scks and my best portal is 40

[echo crag]

you kill as many chaotic bosses as you can doing the vman run then go to sample, preferably with the buff from void radius up ?

[sage urchin]

i cant reach chizoar

and efaunt takes 10 sec to kill

[rough monolith]

What is the motherlode ore used for? Or is it just to show how many are being reduced from the layer ore remaining?

[peak verge]

I feel like you unlocked vman way too early if that's the case.

[echo crag]

or at least got some more general bonus to work on

[sage urchin]

im bad at coin toss

[peak verge]

You don't need it.

[rapid locust]

can you get more than 2 buckets in the caverns?

nice ty ty

[junior dune]

@bleak gazelle I'm poorer than you now

[rough monolith]

Where is this at?

[rapid locust]

i had a second one show up but i have no idea where it came from

[bleak gazelle]

[peak verge]

Engineer

[rough monolith]

Ahh okay. Ty

[echo crag]

https://tenor.com/view/good-grief-im-down-snoopy-sleepy-gif-11834570498874541345

[junior dune]

I'm currently working on converting all my consumables to gems

[frank prairie]

vilagers take too long to level

[junior dune]

Eh, I think it's quite reasonable if the expection is for this to take some time

Lots of gems are required however

[frank prairie]

fair

[bleak gazelle]

i should probably do all my doots/biggies

[echo crag]

definetly gem farming time considering some of the new bonus

[stable temple]

Would you buy 2 of the skull necklaces from the limited shop this round?

[junior dune]

My second story is coming up soon

[stable temple]

It's better than caustic but worse than divine scarf right?

[high spear]

How can i pay my respect to cavern 4 guy ?

[echo crag]

require to afk for 1 full hour, this will be fractal island 2.0

[solar drift]

i feel like i have this text somewhere before

https://tenor.com/view/hilarious-laughing-hard-lol-haha-anime-gif-15883074

[lapis trench]

whens a good time to start using bottled wind?

[solar drift]

bottled wind was sailing right ?

[peak verge]

whenever you get tired of waiting for something

Arguably for fury relic if you need to get lvl 200 tentacleye on bubo

[fast spruce]

What do you do in the Harp room? Not sure how to interact with it

I have 1,524 harp power but not sure how to use it/play it

[terse verge]

Drag mouse/finger across strings like you are playing a harp

[fast spruce]

Thank you

[empty thorn]

my stupid ass thought it was supposed to be a warrior and just talk to the statue

[echo crag]

because it work like fractal you'll eventually want to have all afk there to get some of the early bonuses

[snow escarp]

catching guide?

[empty thorn]

20k hours in fractal is not a priority, right? 10k is enough for now?

[echo crag]

dunno until someone figure out what the later bonuses do

[terse verge]

10k is fine

[grim eagle]

just unlocked hole conjurer, what should I use my 2 free points on?

[terse verge]

20k is 100 star talent points which is not a lot

[terse verge]

If you don’t hve doot - def at least 1 in first green for pocket divinity

[grim eagle]

first green = snehebatu?

[stray hull]

hmm the guide says that increasing the bucket capacity happens when it reaches max fill and you are active. I was active all night and it is still max at 100?

[terse verge]

1. do you have the bonus unlcoked from engi
2. did you have it turned on
3. with long afk time, it’ll only do it 1x on claim if it was too long

[terse verge]

The first green conjrer gives pocket divinity. You can set the link as whatever you need for your account

[stray hull]

ah thanks, looks like I was missing the upgrade, still catching up on all the details

[grim eagle]

ahhh I understand now. Thank you!

[tired dirge]

Should I buy those or is it not worth in the long run?

[terse verge]

Just think of them as a short cut. 12 points means your conjurer starts at up to pseudo-level 12. Whether that is worth it to you to jump start access to those bonuses are up to you. You can see what those bonuses are in the hole guide in 📌

[main prawn]

chat bubble on IOS mobile is not usable in Caverns 😦

[minor knoll]

if i dont mind having an hour+ kattlekruk 1st time kill, whats the min dmg i should have for DK? id like to just auto and leave

[main prawn]

these toons were chatting to me, couldnt talk back.. mobile player problems

[minor knoll]

o ty

[terse verge]

Make sure to turn on the button in your options. I think mobile has it off as default

[main prawn]

its on, its covered by cavern navigation

normally in bottom left above ui

[terse verge]

kek

I would post a ss of that in suggestions to move the ui over - qa oversight

[boreal knot]

What class do I need to be to speak to the statue in cavern 4 of the hole?

[terse verge]

Not class specific. You need to afk for 1 hour, uninterupted, not rounded, not cumulative across chars

[boreal knot]

does it have to be exactly one hour like some of the timmed quests?

[serene coral]

is there a list of what gods to run on what characters after i have all maps?

[terse verge]

It acts like early divinity and fractal island. The time afk is rounded down to next whole number

[zealous cobalt]

What should I focus on first

[terse verge]

Context is quite important

[stray hull]

is the motherlode mining rate fixed or is it also dependant on eff like normal mining (multi-ore, etc)

[zealous cobalt]

I just got to world 5

[terse verge]

With pocket divinity from hole, this is far less of an issue now

[worn idol]

Is it worth it to just park all my alts on Bravery for the time being? I was mostly on maintenance mode before the update came out, but now I'm wondering if I should rotate some of them out to do other things (hello x243 forge cap)

[terse verge]

Welcome to w5 - throw everyone on divinity altar, then take time to read the divinity primer in 3rd 📌 . That pin also has good basic info for a lot of stuff for w5 so take the time to look it over

[serene coral]

ah gotcha, i was wondering because of having doot, does it matter what god i have equipped? sorry i shouldve included more information

[terse verge]

Outside of having 1 linked to purrmep, rest are cosmetic

[serene coral]

okay thank you very much

[terse verge]

Most folks are full afk on bravery with warriors on motherlode

[worn idol]

Yeah, figured as much. 3 warriors, don't push ML, keep the game running to get buckets to auto refil on max right?

[bleak gazelle]

Like 28m I think is bare minimum? Assuming right talent setup. Id watch for a few minutes first though to make sure its actually going down

[minor knoll]

ok cool ty

[stray hull]

I mean with a limit of 5 levels a day it should be worth pushing ML at least a bit before parking yea?

[bleak gazelle]

https://i.imgur.com/o9Kt2Xu.png

[terse verge]

Some folks are waiting to destroy because we know we cant get very deep rn on ML layers. So might as well get motherlode ore pow10 while it is easy

[bleak gazelle]

1b is good enough for me

[stray hull]

fair enough. guess ill stop at 5 since that is the days limit. need to move my other miner over

[wicked grove]

What is the class you need to be on the statue, level 4 of hole?

[floral timber]

Is there no way to decrease amp level on the dawg den? I may have been curious what the max was…

[sick sentinel]

click to select the bonus then long click and release on it to reset

[terse verge]

Class does not matter

[floral timber]

Sweet thanks boss

[minor knoll]

is the required dmg stated for kruk for when u are in town or when u are at the mole map?

im 27m in town and 13m at the mole map

[terse verge]

Your acc is too low - make sure you have 1.5x acc

[wicked grove]

Thanks. Its speech got me confused. I will try to maybe use his cape

[minor knoll]

ya im not getting the buff, but if i fix accuracy will i be at 27m and close to the req dmg

[terse verge]

For the first hour of afk, make sure it is full 1 hr, uninterrupted, on 1 char. Like fractal, it rounds down to nearest whole hour

[shy basin]

I know the update is new but, i just unlocked the bell as well as cosmo, and i was wondering if there was an clear order for upgrades or if its just whatever you feel like first

[terse verge]

For cosmo, the only clear thing is if you don’t have doot:

1. one point into idleon majik to unlock pocket divinity
2. 3 points into blue majik to get bonus
3. 1 point to extend pocket divinity for 3rd link

[misty sandal]

Is it good enough for frosty firefight?

[bleak gazelle]

maybe? Cant see levels

[icy stone]

how to increase refinery speed

[simple wadi]

Can confirm that gold stop watches don't reset monument's story /sadface

[icy stone]

I think its time based so only lanterns do

[slow crescent]

do i have to unlock something to be able to reset opals?

[prisma vigil]

Cavern 7

[slow crescent]

gotcha, thanks

[prisma vigil]

I heard you need to stay online in order to keep increasing youtlr bucket size. Do I need to just be online, no matter the world/map, or do you need to be in the caverns?

[chrome cipher]

Deathblossom pendants even worth it?

[prisma vigil]

I do have the bucket increase thing bought

[pulsar ermine]

so i know arctis and harriep bonuses work in tandem with eachother.but i wanted to ask, does arctis and goharut also work with eachother?

[stable parrot]

Nope

That would be busted

[pulsar ermine]

o7

godspeed

[misty sandal]

The boulder is lvl 17

The kraken is lvl 1

[onyx tide]

is the new update worth grinding for bonuses? what bonuses does it even give?

[bleak gazelle]

Decent for pushing before divine scarf, okay for ES active, becomes +1 slab eventually

[bleak gazelle]

Pocket div for 2 extra god links if you're not dooted, more forge cap for easier bars, other buffs later on

[molten bramble]

anyone know what character need to be used on the "Bravery" part of the hole?

[sick sentinel]

any

go there and leave them for 1+ hour

[prisma vigil]

Everything! Except Vman. He gets to mine

[molten bramble]

i used my divine knight and it rejected the chracter, and theres a 1 hour cooldown

[heady plover]

Where do I find the Mushroom enemy to get the new card?

[chrome cipher]

Already got 10 scarves so I guess it's just for slab then

[molten bramble]

it says, "I do not speak to whose who show no respect...." and its ask to chance character

[echo crag]

yes its telling you to leave current character afk on that screen and come back to iut after an hour as passed

[heady plover]

It is an afk game, you leave it for an hour and you get buffs

[robust plaza]

you need to afk 1 hr on a character

[molten bramble]

aaaah gotcha

thanks fellas

[heady plover]

If you log in at 57 you get 0 minutes

[icy fern]

Can I change chars during the 1 hrs?

[heady plover]

yeah

[echo crag]

as long as you dont go back to the one waiting on bravery

[robust plaza]

yeah, ive noticed with braverything, it rounds down

[icy fern]

Oh so I can't go back

got it!

[echo crag]

bravery is like fractal island 2.0 and it round down the time

so 59min 59 sec will result in +0 hours

[chrome cipher]

God I can't believe I can fit 25m godshard ore in my forge now

[heady plover]

I wonder if there are gonna be people that AFK all 10 characters for 10 days for max upgrade

^ I suck at math, I believe it is 10 days worth for max

[echo crag]

[zealous cobalt]

Is there anything I should buy with gems in the world 5 shop

[heady plover]

obviously I thought it was 2400 hours. Definitely didn't forget to add another 0....

[bleak gazelle]

somewhere past cavern 7 i think? otherwise w5 card packs

[scenic kayak]

guys wat upgrade in the gemdhop for the hole is gppd?

[zinc trout]

is there a way to reset the hound multipliers in the hole?

[robust plaza]

hold click

[zinc trout]

Many thanks

[gentle path]

do i yolo or play safe

[junior delta]

this works like a doot, just for 2 gods right?
if i dont have doot should i put it like this and put everyone on herriep as well or is there a better setup

[bleak gazelle]

i would main link to bear, then use pocket links for harriep + w/e else

bear+goat don't work how you want it to

[daring carbon]

is this for all characters or just the one i unlocked them on

[bleak gazelle]

account-wide

[daring carbon]

thanks

[shadow junco]

what character is the one that pays respect?

[robust plaza]

any. 1 hr afk min

[shadow junco]

ah and then click?

[simple wadi]

I parked all of my chrs there. It's like the AFK island in W2

[uncut cedar]

@dapper prism Can you explain what this means?

[shadow junco]

that there are better bonusses afterwards, no?

[robust plaza]

10->100 mined is +5 fill rate so maybe 50 to 55 fill rate, significant early on
1b->10b mined is +5 so maybe 1000 to 1005 fill rate, very small, and less impact the more modifiers that exist elsewhere

[proven wigeon]

Help please, i can not the life of me figure out how to expand how much gravel i can hold?

[uncut cedar]

That's what I was thinking, but I found it confusing in the context of the question, which in full is:

[fierce cargo]

whats confusing

[echo crag]

once you bought the upgrade, just let it cap, you need to have the game on for it to work

[bleak gazelle]

there's an engineer schematic that you need to buy first

[fierce cargo]

each layer raises the mining eff. so you get less ores as you move up in layers

[proven wigeon]

which upgrade?

[robust plaza]

yeah, because the efficiency requirement increases, which means less ore mined an hour.
lava is basically saying dont mind it cause the bonus from mining power of 10 ore is outclassed in the long term

[zealous pagoda]

Can someone Quickexplain The harp? pls xD

[uncut cedar]

Right, but Jury seemed concerned about that and Lava is "no ur fine".

[uncut cedar]

OK, that makes sense.

[shrewd lodge]

Its cause of the engineer motherlode & bucket synergy, it s multiplicative bonus per motherlode layer

[bleak gazelle]

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[robust plaza]

its really nice early, but will be a drop in the bucket later (pun intended)

[dapper prism]

if your bucket fills at 10/h or 30/h or 50/h early on is a huge difference, but with other unlocks, being at 5000/h or 5010/h wont make much

[robust plaza]

the power of 10 doesnt say base +5 fill rate, so i assume its not multiplied by the 1.1x per layer thing, could be wrong tho

[dapper prism]

So either way, early hole, toss all on bravery except warris on motherloads, get that ore, easily 1b

[sacred flame]

Whats the deal with bravery room? How does that one start

[dapper prism]

Pinned guide

[robust plaza]

leave 1 char there for 1 hr afk. chekc back in later

[dapper prism]

You afk there 1h with an alt and dont check it

[sacred flame]

Oh okay, ty

[echo crag]

and make sure not to come back until it says 1h01min on afk timer

[robust plaza]

yeah, time rounds down in the hole

[uncut cedar]

Do we have a list of potential bonuses for "Ring Bell"? So far I've gotten 3 10% Harp Notes and 3 0.3% lamp wishes

[strong shale]

Villager exp

[sacred flame]

Also, is bucket supposed to collect offline? Was off for 12 hours it only expanded bar once to 150, and had 50 left.

[bleak gazelle]

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[bleak gazelle]

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[uncut cedar]

Oh sorry, I didn't see them there before.

[bleak gazelle]

Lot of info there, easy to miss

[sacred flame]

Right, but do we know if thats intended or not?

[robust plaza]

ah, so its like ore smelting, it wont to the capacity increase till log in

[bleak gazelle]

most likely intended

[sacred flame]

Ye, seems like since other things only trigger on log in it makes sense.. good thing I usually leave game open lol.

[uncut cedar]

For the Bravery stories the guide says it can be completed every hour, but it doesn't call out that you get two attempts per day. (I failed both of mine yesterday. :'()

[robust plaza]

yeah, i failed my first and right after did my second, then it said come back in 20 hrs

oh it does You can try this every 20h #1303761365273415700 message

[solid sierra]

hey any1 whos ahead in the hole can we expect to see any storage space upgrades yet?

[red mauve]

Wait buckets only work wile the game is running?

[bleak gazelle]

bucket expander only works while active

well, no. if you want continuous expansion

you can get a single expand from afking

[red mauve]

Oh just the expander, thats fine.

[north condor]

Do I really need to wait 24 hours every time I ask for a story in the hole

[robust plaza]

ur in luck. its only 20hrs

[uncut cedar]

Yay!

[north condor]

😦

[uncut cedar]

So first run, maybe be a little risky. Second run, don't get cocky.

[humble flax]

you can only mine motherlode actively? that does not make any sense

[robust plaza]

huh? you can afk it

[sacred flame]

You gotta pick up the ore drops off the ground or it doesnt subtract them

[robust plaza]

oh, i guess you can only afk total ore mined then? im stuck at my layer atm, gotta wait to test

[humble flax]

aight bet

[bleak gazelle]

i was able to open 2 layers from afking, though i've heard a few people having issues with it. idk if they picked up ore or not though

[uncut cedar]

Any mobile gamers think those buttons (on the bottom) are just too small?

Ah crap, I only got one attempt at Story and I lost to 68 health with 5 swords!

[north condor]

So sad it takes so long 😦

[bleak gazelle]

you can use silver pocketwatches to move up your daily reset

[uncut cedar]

Yeah, and I lost an opal each time.

[spark fern]

to bad you have to be online for buckets to upgrade I was really confused this morning until I read the guide

[solar drift]

anyone need silver bar?

[old edge]

Anyone know why equipting the devine scarf does not finish the quest?

[solar drift]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD i made to much

[old edge]

I used soooo much time candy for 100k bars before RIP

[marble pagoda]

Can i afk on motherlode?

[bleak gazelle]

just make sure you pick up the ore when you claim afk

[marble pagoda]

Omg zzz no wonder it had no progress

I was wondering why it seemed to work before

Thanks!!

[solar drift]

cooked, i am

i should have used the calculator

is time

[echo crag]

check your stamps

[solar drift]

cant use it on stamp

im stacking for 90% right now

[bleak gazelle]

molto loggo bubble it is

[solar drift]

ye but after gstack the slush

nice it make 0 dent to the stack

[livid sonnet]

what do i do now just get rank ups or doesnt matter too much rn?

[bleak gazelle]

not like you can spend points on anything else
you get bonuses per god rank from the ES talent and last Jade Emporium update

[spark fern]

Does anyone know what the first hole majik upgrade " monumental vibes" does it says 1.25x monument bonuses, is that statues?

[ornate oxide]

So does the hole continue to gain and fill the bars and extend them even if I have my character doing something else active afk?

[bleak gazelle]

if you are active/idle (anywhere), then yes

[ornate oxide]

Ok thank you!

[bleak gazelle]

if you're afk/offline, then if the bar fills up, it will expand once and stop there

[ornate oxide]

Thank you for thr clarification! Now time ti let it run all day lol

What does the dragon statue do?

[bleak gazelle]

||statue boost multiplier||

[ornate oxide]

Does that make a big difference in the effects they give or is it not noticeable

[bleak gazelle]

unsure, only seen one potential screenshot of just the bonus

[ornate oxide]

Ooh ok! Because if it's a strong bonus then it seems worth it to get to level 200 or mabye even 300

And with that combined with the void walker effect that would make it even more potent

[pseudo sparrow]

Is there any reason to link to gods if i have doot?

[bleak gazelle]

just one person on purrmep, ideally your highest div level

anything else is for aesthetics on character menu

[ornate oxide]

I linked one to purrmep and the rest are just random ones lol

[pseudo sparrow]

I have waited 4 hours anyone know what i need to do with the bronze statue guy in caverns?

[bleak gazelle]

did you leave someone afk in his room for 1 hour in that 4 hours?

[pseudo sparrow]

oh you need to be in the room for the time to count?

rip i left them afk on the motherlode

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-falling-god-of-war-gif-27343846

[ornate oxide]

What level should I aim to get my statues too? I know the food one I should get to 300 from what I've heard, but I'm not sure on the rest

[bleak gazelle]

depends on the statue more is better though

[ornate oxide]

Ok, I thinking of just getting all statues to at least level 200, then after that slowly work my way to 300 then stop there

I still have yet to do the kapow statues on all characters but I do have it onyx, I'm just gonna wait to deposit all the kapow until I get an onyx dragon statue

[low nest]

do lanterns give out bravery cavern time as well?

[bleak gazelle]

yes, just 2 hours though

[low nest]

W

[uncut cedar]

We don't even know the DR of dragon statues. Onyxing it may not be possible.

[bleak gazelle]

||1 in 100k from the shroom card, unsure if it comes from anywhere else||

[ornate oxide]

It may be possible just take forever tho haha

[pseudo sparrow]

how to undo modifires on the hound area? I accidently brought the damage to 100 and am now getting 1 tapped

[uncut cedar]

Hold down modifier

[bleak gazelle]

select it first then hold

[pseudo sparrow]

thx

[uncut cedar]

Has anyone actually got to that mob?

[ornate oxide]

A few has from what I've seen

[bleak gazelle]

there's been one screenshot that i've seen. unsure if it's legit or not. very well could be with how many silver pocketwatches people may have saved up

[pseudo sparrow]

what is the best class to do the hounds on?

[uncut cedar]

All of them

[bleak gazelle]

dk, es, sb for their base classes should be best

but give it a try with the others too

also need to complete with mman/vman

[uncut cedar]

If the mob is like hounds, getting that statue would be awful.

[pseudo sparrow]

W used 400 div pearls to get all charecters to mining level 50 W

[stray hull]

lol mining and chopping are like the easiest to level. used pearls to get everyone to 50 cooking. now that was worth it ;P

[pseudo sparrow]

I mean i still have 380 left

i did it for the cavers mining thing caver 3

[raw ocean]

good news! I went to bed and forgot to put my buckets to expand when full :)

[terse verge]

Turning off bucket expansion is the new “i forgot i had 10hr prayer on and afked for 10 months”

[untold saffron]

2 hours or two hours per character there?

[bleak gazelle]

pretty sure it's just flat 2 hours

can't remember if axel or someone else tried it with multiple people in

[hardy kestrel]

hi guys how do i expand my gravel bar in the hole pls

nevermind

[latent gate]

What do opals do

[terse verge]

1. have the engi upgrade bought
2. turn on expand
3. collect to max

[terse verge]

Allows villagers to gain xp

[latent gate]

Ty

[hardy kestrel]

bar expand o rama right?

[silver crest]

do we have a rough order to spend points for majick?

[tight quartz]

do i have to be active in the bellroom for the bell to ring or is it some passive thing or can i leave the room?

[lime ember]

Is there a list of what schematics are unlocked at what level? The hole guide in pins doesn't have anything yet.

[bleak gazelle]

if you're dootless, 1 green, 3 blue, enhance first green, then enhance first two blues for xp

[bleak gazelle]

passive

[glossy rain]

are doot gods active once you get w5? or you need to unlock em?

[bleak gazelle]

https://imgur.com/a/xumJ8Ds

[silver crest]

and after enhancing first two blues ?

[bleak gazelle]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700

red i guess? or maybe some green for forge cap

[stoic star]

Doot .....

[main sorrel]

question about the event, the hole in w5... is it permanent? Or just a seasonal thing? I'm so confused

[fallow aurora]

permanent

lava would say if its a event

[terse verge]

Think of it like w6’s equinox/rift

[main sorrel]

okay, that's fair

[bleak gazelle]

w6

[narrow sable]

what magik magik 1

[lucid sentinel]

guess i got a whole new grind now

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle I got my first dark blue coin yesterday

[drowsy rivet]

what is the best world for lava hounds

char

[bleak gazelle]

you'll need to do them on all 4 base classes, but most likely dk/sb/es for those three

[drowsy rivet]

why all 4

[solar drift]

engineer guy have a schematics that buff something that i forgot depends on your kill count at hounds

[thin bear]

does monument of bravery need someone to afk there for the rest of the layers?

[bleak gazelle]

ideally everyone once you get to ~1b (or more if your efficiency is good) ore mined for the one engineering node

[stuck girder]

is cavern 4 broken for anyone else?

[obsidian briar]

Ngl I think the guide isn't that good, but I think it'll get a lot better itf

[bleak gazelle]

you can take that up with trickz in #endgame-gen-chat

[solar drift]

but it literally explain what you have to do xd

[shy basin]

Are any of the hole gem shop upgrades worth buying/must haves?

[bleak gazelle]

#1303761365273415700 message

[fierce cargo]

i hope lava has a moment of clarity, and makes it so we don't have to wait a full hour of afk

[tender pine]

does this mean afk here for 1 hour

[fierce cargo]

read the last 10 msgs or so

[tender pine]

i dont want spoiled just tell me

[fierce cargo]

no spoilers then

[tender pine]

yes or no

[ember ermine]

yes

[tender pine]

thank you

[strong shale]

Idleon players try to read challenge (impossble)

[little raft]

got 3 majik points where should i start

[quick hull]

Hey, I know lava posted an image of him using arctis and goharut with the new hole feature, but from what I can tell that doesn't actually do anything? Am i misunderstanding how they interact?

[bleak gazelle]

if you're dootless, 1 green, 3 blue, then enhance first green

[humble flax]

get ur idleon majik

[little raft]

got it thanks

[bleak gazelle]

troll setup

[quick hull]

Ah. good to know.

[bleak gazelle]

you'll most likely want to have 8-9 on bear as main link, then do harriep + omni or w/e as pocket links

second ES can be main linked to purrmep and Poly linked to bear

[languid lantern]

Does the Dirty Shovel in gaming just scale with gaming level or what?

[flint nova]

How do you reset majik?

[dapper imp]

anyone has any idea why my motherlode didnt reset with the daily reset?

[undone wagon]

It resets?

[dapper imp]

i mean

im at layer 6 and it says come back tomrrow ...

it does that since the release

[undone wagon]

Welp @dapper prism

[strong socket]

I assume it resets with your shop timer

[undone wagon]

I Summon... TRICKZBUNNY!!1!

[dapper imp]

well my shop reset was 15 hrs ago....

[dapper prism]

Mhm

Step 1: Read the Guide basics.

Layers reset on daily reset.

#1303761365273415700 message

[dapper imp]

well i see but it didnt work for me then xD

so i guess its buged for me for soem reason

[acoustic birch]

hey is it somehow possible to reset points invested in bonuses?

[ember ermine]

eventually yes

[acoustic birch]

how?XD

[strong shale]

Youll see when u get there

[vagrant plover]

does anyone know what some of the later engineer upgrades do it doesnt show on the hole guide

[tall horizon]

Reading? Ew

[worldly wigeon]

Daft question about Bravery, During the battle phase, Can you only use one attack or all of them? (I've literally been one shoting then running when the odds aren't in my favour to kill with one attack)

[bleak gazelle]

all

[worldly wigeon]

F

Thank you

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle main now

[strong shale]

The bravery statue is asking me to afk for 1 hour, can i sit there or do i have to be on another character

[pastel kayak]

Stalker @strong shale alert

[vagrant plover]

1 hour afk

[strong shale]

Whats that mean

[vagrant plover]

another character

[strong shale]

Okay ty

[somber oriole]

what is priority of merit shop w5? I have 16 points what should I buy

[bleak gazelle]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[somber oriole]

woah thanks you!

[smoky cipher]

I would swap 1 and 2 if u want more chest space and to gather artis faster, but it seems fine either way

If u can afford kruk gear, make that rank 4. Your talents will become easier and easier at w5+

[coarse nova]

divinity first or bravery

[bleak gazelle]

you know, that's a good question
have you progressed into divinity at all yet? and have you gotten the conjuror unlocked?

[solar drift]

oh shit

[bleak gazelle]

I'm curious if pocket div works on locked gods

[solar drift]

and you beat me to it

https://tenor.com/view/tigger-sad-bye-leaving-gif-12259711

[silver loom]

i love this update got me up to the trillions for cooking

[coarse nova]

I'm gonna leave 1 char on bravery and others divinity

[bleak gazelle]

have you gotten the 80hr unlock yet?

[silver loom]

what does it give?

i have 2 charcters on bravery

[coarse nova]

nah

[ornate bobcat]

is the deathblossom pendant worth the gems

[bleak gazelle]

2 more swords. paired with other upgrades, should let you get to 5-7 fights

[silver loom]

i bought them

[solar drift]

is good for hounds and +1 slabs, thats about it

[bleak gazelle]

it's good for pushing up to w6 and has some edge case uses for active ES, but it eventually just becomes a Slab purchase

if you have spare gems, great, otherwise, there are other permanent bonuses that are better

[silver loom]

i have 4 of them

[solar drift]

you have what

https://tenor.com/view/cat-annoyed-eyeing-cat-meme-cat-funny-gif-14867130448325066479

[strong shale]

What does the 80 hour upgrade do for bravery?

[bleak gazelle]

lets you skip the 1hr afk

[solar drift]

how do i unlock bravery

[bleak gazelle]

dig a tunnel

[bleak gazelle]

if you happen to unlock the conjuror and get your pocket divinity going, can you be our guinea pig and see if linking to gods you haven't unlocked works?

[strong shale]

Push someone off the train tracks when the train is oncoming

You will be brave

[solar drift]

well then can i push you on the train tracks?

https://tenor.com/view/kawaii-gif-22571722

[coarse nova]

it might take a few weeks tho (yeah)

[solar drift]

if you can unlock hole, is not that much as you think

[solar drift]

also why the hate, i just wantd to know how to unlock it, smh my head

[coarse nova]

I already have hole, it's just the villager exp

[wild river]

Is the hole like equinox or rift where its better i do it very end game?

[solar drift]

Is better if you start early

the difficult one might be bravery, because you want to afk there but at the same time you want to afk at lab for lab lvl + divinity lvl

[bleak gazelle]

i think afking up to 2nd unlock is probably enough for people trying to push

that'll probably allow them to get 5-7 fights a day

[solar drift]

Basically start hole asap if you can, get some easy opal and you can go back to it from time to time and collect villagers exp

[floral swift]

How does bravery work, the statue keeps saying come back in an hour

[solar drift]

don’t you dare answer normally ace

[vale bluff]

Hello

[bleak gazelle]

no way it'll be two, eh?

[formal folio]

just afk 1 full hour to unlock

[vale bluff]

Yes?

[solar drift]

I want to test if he come back in 1 hour or not

[strong shale]

#1303761365273415700 message

[vale bluff]

What’s the 5th room in the hole?

[solar drift]

I need number to see how many people fail to read the message and understand it

[bleak gazelle]

Bell room
#1303761365273415700 message

[vale bluff]

Bell?

[solar drift]

🔔

[bleak gazelle]

bell

[alpine kiln]

My bell has managed to give lvl 3 in all 4 ring stats. perfectly balanced

[solar drift]

Time to clean if you haven’t and then reset

[strong shale]

What is after bravery unlock in the hole

[vale bluff]

Bell

[strong shale]

Oh ok

[solar drift]

https://tenor.com/view/dunk-gif-21755298

[jolly talon]

first try baby

[knotty schooner]

Divinity is already annoying me

[vale bluff]

You still have pure hell as well?

[fierce cargo]

i keep forgetting about the double click for teleport

[rich stratus]

What should I priotizd in the conjuring first

[bleak gazelle]

Read this section, prio at the bottom
#1303761365273415700 message

[pastel kayak]

@strong shale might stalk you soon

[strong shale]

Im not online right now ): i am working

[knotty schooner]

Can you not use time candy or petals to effect divinity

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle you in game?

[bleak gazelle]

[modern sorrel]

With which character should I go to the bravery cavern ?

[marble lotus]

isn't this cap kinda cracked for its tier?

[modern sorrel]

Anyone?

[bleak gazelle]

anyone

afk for an hour

[cursive forge]

does this unlocks anything

ok

then Ill save up 90Q instead

[thorn zealot]

what islands should i hard farm for gold bars?

[vale bluff]

All of them

[rich stratus]

Thanks
I didn’t see that part earlier while checking it

[vale bluff]

What is excogia?

[leaden brook]

What type oof Char is needed for 4th floor of the new hole?

[desert glen]

have to afk there for over 1 hr

[junior dune]

The cog made out of 4 pieces from the gemshop

[vale bluff]

Ok

[leaden brook]

oh i misunderstood what it wanted lol i thought had to bring specific char type and cant try again for 1 hr lol

thanks

[green moss]

rushed into w5 super quickly, what lvl do i have to get divinity at for my doot pet to start working

[vale bluff]

HAPPY HOUR

[bleak gazelle]

https://imgur.com/a/xumJ8Ds

[paper spoke]

What are monument bonuses

[near escarp]

how does this work? like now im linked to 2 gods?

[marble lotus]

LETS GOOOOO

[worldly lagoon]

congrats now u can have all the liquid

[odd socket]

can you just switch gods in this ui whenever? or does it lock to a specific one when I unlock it

[near escarp]

u can change

[balmy condor]

i did a long breeak how does the new cavern update work

[odd socket]

nice

[bleak gazelle]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700

[balmy condor]

thx

[odd socket]

i believe its the afk rewards in bravery

[paper spoke]

ah, thank you

[odd socket]

or no probably the ones you get from stories

cause they have actual number values

[bleak gazelle]

it's the ones you get from stories

some (most/all?) of the afk bonuses are static

[terse cosmos]

has anyone been testing the +1 god from hole?

i've been thinking (i dont have it yet)
have the +1 be harriep on logout
and when u log back in u change to nake
but not sure if this would actually work?

[paper spoke]

Also, if you lose a story fight does it take the bonuses?

[near escarp]

why the option to run then?

[vapid geode]

was it wrong of me to put 2/3 lastest character on bear without leveling up anything in lab?

I only have up too the mantis already

[terse cosmos]

depends on which bonuses u already have and what u are working towards

[bleak gazelle]

meta will probably be bear on most people and then linked to harriep + omni/something else. swap to snake/goat when sampling or whatever you want as you afk claim

[bleak gazelle]

if you run, you keep your bonuses. when you have the option to fight again, you start from round 1 with any bonuses that you have

[terse cosmos]

wait that sounds very op in the long run

[vapid geode]

How it looks right now

[terse cosmos]

u dont have goat right?

[bleak gazelle]

you can skip sigils and the liquid nodes if it'll help you get further

[vapid geode]

noo...?

[bleak gazelle]

I am curious if anyone has Pocket Divinity unlocked and doesn't have all gods if it'll give you the bonus of them

[vapid geode]

Dont think soo only the first 3 gods as of rn

[odd socket]

i can only cycle through the ones I have unlocked

[bleak gazelle]

ahh, interesting. thanks!

[odd socket]

no elephant yet

but harriep probably good enough

[terse cosmos]

ignore lvling lab for the other characters for now, once u get goat god u can worry about that

[vapid geode]

Yeah I'm not getting alot of Lab Exp atm

[terse cosmos]

read what the goat god does

[golden wing]

hey what stats should i get before starting to push w5 like dmg acc and def numbers?

[terse cosmos]

ur gonna need 35-60m damage depending on ur class for the boss

[bleak gazelle]

enough accuracy to hit 100% (or 1.5x if you're a DK). Defense doesn't matter too much, use food and Hemoglobin star talent from W1 merits

[vapid geode]

10% chance for bunny

[terse cosmos]

GL

[near escarp]

may the rng be with u

[strong shale]

Cute dragon girl

I miss mine

[exotic folio]

Hey can someone explain the bravery monument? I’m so confused on it

[near escarp]

stay afk there to get more bonuses

[bleak gazelle]

I'm genuinely curious why people are finding it confusing

[gilded yarrow]

okay im gonna read up on the hole but for now should i just throw all my chars on paying respect? and farm motherlode ofc

[strong shale]

Yeah pretty much

Bravery is lab 3.0

[near escarp]

u do u. if u wanna unlock the hole faster then yes

[bleak gazelle]

blabbery

[strong shale]

[paper spoke]

Last question for now, what are harp notes gain

[worldly lagoon]

the notes on a harp

[exotic folio]

I finally got it when I realized it was just the island of nothing but you gotta be there for it

And at least you don’t have to stay there constantly for the bonuses

My first 7 characters are all in the 300s in levels so any bonuses are good ones in my mind

Also I’m straight up scared and world 6

[paper spoke]

I guess since that question wasn't asnwered, why does my bell speed% not work on anything but the first

[static peak]

I made an oopsie and let my dks pass my vman on mining the motherlode

[sage urchin]

something missing

[toxic saddle]

New card

It’s in cavern 9

[sage urchin]

h ok

[obsidian kayak]

what is the monument that gets bonuses from the cosmo villager?

[bleak gazelle]

the bonuses you get from stories at the bravery monument

[crimson yew]

New card is in card pack. Got lucky on first pack with a lv.4 good passives for new update

[vapid geode]

Any Wow's I'm missing ?

Feel like Arti find and AFK Gain are gold

[strong shale]

Drop rate is insane

Afk gain sucks

Mk per tier is good, arti chance is mid

Id prio drop rate > anything else

[crimson yew]

I'm pushing dr as well.

[hidden prism]

You can't AFK the motherlode, right? Want to make sure.

[brave fable]

you can

[hidden prism]

You sure? I did and it didn't look like it actually progressed it at all.

[brave fable]

you just need to pick up the ore on the ground when you come back

[hidden prism]

I'll try it again.

[brave fable]

do a 2 min one

[gray hill]

Does biggie hours card that doubles afk work for bravery?

[burnt panther]

What bonuses can be enhanced??

[halcyon glade]

Most, you'll see

[strong shale]

Probably the ones that have enhance as an option

[candid pier]

What's with the "bravery" guy? Doesn't want to talk to any of my toons

[bleak gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-spongebob-imagination-gif-14700113963574774892

[strong shale]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Ace is gonna crash out

[candid pier]

I swap to a different character, come back an hour later, still same message

[strong shale]

Was it an hour, or 58 minutes

[bleak gazelle]

did you leave the character on the bravery screen for 1 hour? (afk gains should say bravery and must be 1hr+, cannot be 59 minutes)

[candid pier]

Oh, you have to idle at the bravery guy.

[fallow aurora]

hes just teaching a life lesson

[candid pier]

AFKing at the bravery thing wasn't clear.

[bleak gazelle]

you gotta connect the dots

[candid pier]

No, you're just trolling.

[warm path]

nou

[bleak shore]

what do at the bravery hero statue in the hole caven 4?

[candid pier]

AFK there for 1 hour

[bleak gazelle]

they learn so fast

[strong shale]

It says afk for an hour and swap to another character

[red mauve]

Hes not trolling you are just the 257th person that is asking a question that literally has a cheat sheet.

[candid pier]

I normally go to a wiki for this stuff

Someone needs to update the wiki

[strong shale]

Yeah we've been linking the guide all day, its not your fault its just yea repetitiveness is getting to us

Lava doesnt let the wiki guys update until later

[terse verge]

Wiki is on 2 week embargo for new content

[strong shale]

To avoid spoilers

[red mauve]

It also says in game. Like right there.

[strong shale]

#1084911530417606656 is your go to

For anything idleon related

That isnt on the wiki

[bleak gazelle]

I'm just legitimately trying to figure out why so many people are having issues with it

[candid pier]

The dude says, "You insulted me, now shove off."

I wouldn't say that's very clear.

[bleak gazelle]

i guess he says, what. "swap to another character and return to me in an hour" or similar?

[fallow aurora]

if u click on the statue he tells u to afk there

[candid pier]

"return to me" doesn't imply you have to afk there

I thought I could go off and do something else for an hour

[wheat lynx]

how do you get more villagers

[terse verge]

Its fine. It can be interpreted both ways

[fallow aurora]

by recuing them

[bleak gazelle]

you'll find them on the ground in various caverns

idk, guess i'm just used to afking for everything

[wheat lynx]

do you know when you unlock the 3rd villager, I am up to the 4th cavern

[terse verge]

Cavern 1 3 5 7

[wheat lynx]

ok thank you

[slender spire]

I have one point in which of those should I put?

[bleak gazelle]

if you're dootless, you go 1 into green, then 3 blue, then enhance green

if dooted, can just go three blue and enhance first two blues

[bleak gazelle]

And sorry, I'm not trying to be hostile or anything, just genuinely curious, because you're far from the only person who's asked about it. For general hole info you can read up on Trickz' guide here https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700
or check out endgame chat for the most up-to-date conversation #endgame-gen-chat

[fallow aurora]

seems like I'm somehow doing the correct thing

[candid pier]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fallow aurora]

#👀read-me react to the peanut

[snow obsidian]

Oh shit does the bonus do the same as door?

[bleak gazelle]

small doot

[dusky sapphire]

Now many opals should I put into my explorer?

[bleak gazelle]

at least 10

[dusky sapphire]

Really? Damn okay

[snow obsidian]

Explorer is the base of the hole don’t cheap out with him

[dusky sapphire]

Okay I won’t.

[terse verge]

The opals are best in groups of 10 due to a bonus you unlock later from villager 3

[tacit sparrow]

how to decrease level of this?

[terse verge]

Click to select, long hold, once you release it’ll go back to 0

[tacit sparrow]

oml thanks man

[gilded yarrow]

opal priority? i havent seen anything on that, maybe i missed it in the guide

[fallow aurora]

I somehow still haven't gotten the villager xp bonus

the two upgrades on the right are useless to me rn

[bleak gazelle]

kinda depends on how much you whale. you want at least 10 on explorer though

[gilded yarrow]

not whaling at all atm

[vernal grove]

This might be a dumb question but does the minor link bonus for harriep stack?

[bleak gazelle]

same with goat

one exception being if you are connected via ES poly then it only affects that ES

[vernal grove]

Got it, I understand now why you said your ESs main links weren't arctis

The stacking does still work with the new pocket divinity right?

[bleak gazelle]

first one can be arctis, i just like having 2nd one on purrmep since you can still link to arctis via poly

[vernal grove]

Gotcha, just trying to plan out what changes I need to make when I get on the game in the morning

[glass forum]

i tried doing this like alot of times, swapped to a character, waited an hour... NOTHING
what does this even do? or how do i even do it?

[junior arrow]

did you leave the charactrer afk in that particular cavern

your player menu should look like this, when its an hour come back

[rotund nest]

What armor and weapon should I use for world 5 boss? I'm a beast master btw

[glass forum]

yea i did that

im not sure but i think mine got bugged

[gilded yarrow]

you probably didnt wait an hour

it doesnt do anything unless you wait an entire hour

[floral timber]

Yo cavern 4 trash talking me, what do I do?

Nvm I read the other messages I gotta active afk there an hour?

[gilded sedge]

I think afk afk works too since lantern worked for it

[floral timber]

Good to know, ty!

[bleak gazelle]

dang, you a real one

[red mauve]

The real ones use the search feature.

[smoky jasper]

what does this do? i dont see any difference

[bleak gazelle]

it does exactly what it says it does

account-wide extra god links, both major and minor

[solar seal]

Real question is do you know what Goharut (Goat) does/provides - cause you'll know its not an 'blaringly' obvious bonus

[smoky jasper]

i thought if my characters are linking to the lab, then it will also gain divinity aswell

[solar seal]

you can only get lab xp, physically in lab - bear does not count
goat lets you piggyback divinity on lab, but still needs to be in lab
bear + goat have no interaction since goat requires you tobe in lab while bear does not put you there

[smoky jasper]

then what is this used for then

[solar seal]

🤦
let me give you a few scenarios. your characters are all linked to bear so you can maintain lab bonuses but can only provide you 2x prints
then let's use pocket divinity to now link everyone to harriep (like how only ES used to be able to with polytheism talent). now, instead of only 2x print, everyone has access to 6x prints

it acts as a mini-doot allowing you to maintain 2 (then 3) links on each character (4 on ES)

another possibility, you do a vman speedrun but utilize pocket divinity to 2nd and 3rd link to both nobisect and snehebatu so that you can easily reach bosses using 2x portal kills and can then have stronger mob material prints utilizing snake

there are lot of god combos that we can utilize (when you don't have doot) to make your account stronger

[smoky jasper]

hmm ok

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle got my best speed run today 30 portals unlocked

[bleak gazelle]

keep practicing 🎉

[lyric condor]

how does the harp work

[stiff geyser]

Where does one get enhancement for buffs?

[solar seal]

click drag mouse/finger across strings as if you are playing 🎶

[solar seal]

you will need to be much clearer. buffs cover many sources, enhancements the same

[golden wing]

hey to use the pocket divinity on goat do i have to have it unlocked first?

[solar seal]

pocket divinity will not display gods you have not yet unlocked

[golden wing]

okay I guess ill stick with divinity grind and then go into hole.

[solar seal]

you are in tough spot where you have lots of time grinds to do all at same time. sry can't provide better guidance as to which one might be a better priority due to how new hole is, so its hard to gauge how much progress someone new/early in w5 could do which would make it worthwhile

[tawdry rain]

Trying to figure this out aswell

currently just increasing Harp Power

[solar seal]

read my reply like 3 messages down

[tawdry rain]

ty

[wary cargo]

Should I drop the 20 for the pack

Is it actually that super helpful. Im on my 7th character right now. The gems would be a huge boost in both normal gems and the pet gems department

[snow dove]

The hole seems nice, i defo (not) understood how to do things

[bleak gazelle]

most of the packs are worth buying if money isn't too much of a concern

hi mel

[golden wing]

yeah thanks for the help it hard to figure out what do but i think getting two gods and 3 with es would be worth it especially if i just spend 5 minutes every 8 hours on it in between divinty. Plan is to get to goat and put all characters on lab and push with ES to w6 so i can start the other time grinds haha.

[wary cargo]

I just tried to buy it and it said it went through but it isn’t

[bleak gazelle]

if you've got the receipt emailed, try cloud saving and see if it pops up

i know some people have been having issues with it

worse comes to worst, go to #customer-support and follow the instructions there

[storm timber]

What would be the class for my last 2 character. I have 1 DK 2 BB 1 SB 1 BM 1 ES AND 1 BUBO

[warm holly]

usually the final 3 are a dk, ES, and a SB

[golden wing]

you need a v man

[storm timber]

I forgot to in include meastro

[haughty flower]

acecow out here doing the lords work

[golden wing]

i would do a SB next and last player be ES- for green stacking quest items. Eventually you might want to swap a bb to a dk using gems/token. or wait for 11 th.

[bleak gazelle]

there do be an elite swap in the fomo shop

[golden wing]

honestly 2 bb might be useful to get the 100k laddles and then swap.

[bleak gazelle]

maybe? gotta do a lot of prep work to get decent ladles/day though and then you're missing out on the extra construction speed while doing that

[haughty flower]

if you wait long enough ladles take like 2 weeks *on one bb

[storm timber]

I just gonna do 1 BB then . I can wait for 2 week

Does the limited gems rotation only change on major update?

[rugged geyser]

does pocket divinity count for every toon or just the one its on

[latent chasm]

how does the den work?

how do i finish it or whatever or is it just a infinite thing

[oblique jasper]

Infinite

[latent chasm]

how do i end it

[oblique jasper]

Just put as much multipliers as you can and get highest score possible

[latent chasm]

ah ok

[oblique jasper]

Hounds hp increases over time, and if they are alive for 3 seconds they will inflict fear

[latent chasm]

what multiplier are you on

[oblique jasper]

There’s a bonus that scales with # of kills on each class, so make sure to do a no multiplier run on 4 classes

[oblique jasper]

Like 28ish for the first stone I think. Just depends on your defense

[rugged geyser]

if I change the pocket gods does it change it for all of my guys

[bleak gazelle]

everyone

[rugged geyser]

thanks

[bleak gazelle]

whenever lava feels like it. normally on bigger patches though

[scenic kayak]

just unlocked this what shoul i do

[rugged geyser]

green goes hard

[bleak gazelle]

Is there a priority for Conjurer bonuses?
If you do not have Doot, the immediate priority (5 points) should be:
a) 1 point into Idleon Majik (right/ 🟢 ) to unlock Pocket Divinity
b) 3 points into Village Majik (middle/ 🟦 ) to unlock up to Cosmo, Enhance!
c) 1 point again into Pocket Divinity again to get 2nd pocket (3rd overall) god link

[latent chasm]

what if u do have doot

[oblique jasper]

You just get stats

So start from b

[bleak gazelle]

blue 3, enhance first 2 blues, then move into red or something

can check https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700

[oblique jasper]

Yo ace I put point in third blue, should I reset?

[bleak gazelle]

can you even reset conjuror points atm?

[oblique jasper]

Does the bell thing not reset that?

[bleak gazelle]

bell is bell

[oblique jasper]

So it only resets bonus from ringing the bell?

Seems kinda lame

[scenic kayak]

if i don't have doot what god shoul i link ? the bear first for the lab ?

[trim summit]

How does cavern 4 work? Every character I try it on tells me to try a different character and return in an hour

[stiff oasis]

what should i go nxt?

done enhance the god link

[bleak gazelle]

Why doesn’t the Bravery NPC want to talk to me? I did what he asked?
Bravery (acts like Fractal Island in W2) where afk time is ignored until you have accrued at least 1 full uninterrupted hour.
To get started on the quest, you must leave at least 1 character at the Bravery NPC, for the full hour uninterrupted in ONE afk claim.

Once you are progressing on Bravery, all subsequent time after the first hour is rounded down to nearest whole hour. So you ideally want to claim AFK time if you are just past an hour (2:03 rounds to 2 hrs) or alternatively wait a few minutes if you are just short an hour (wait 3 min if you are 4:57 to get full 5 hrs).
https://i.imgur.com/PsmrHna.png

[bleak gazelle]

i'd probably enhance the first two blues, not sure of what the best split is. caveat: if you want to do some godshard bars, then throw 1 into next green and enhance that 2-4 times

[oblique jasper]

I feel like someone should just paste the hole guide link into every chat in 10 minute intervals. That would answer a lot of questions

[bleak gazelle]

I went with Arctis for main links, then Pocket Div Harriep + Omni (or w/e)
One ES is main linked to Purrmep and linked to Arctis via Poly

i was kind of doing that yesterday. doesn't really matter

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle mum took the laptop away today cause was bad day with the pain

[bleak gazelle]

Remember to follow your heart

-# or check ⁠https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700

[oblique jasper]

Lmao

[obsidian briar]

_ _

How do I get more bucket fill rate 😫

[pastel kayak]

She not takes my,iPad away

[oblique jasper]

Drink a bunch of water and piss in it

[bleak gazelle]

quite a few things, there's engineer upgrades, bravery story bonuses, and bell upgrades

[obsidian briar]

What

[oblique jasper]

It will fill it up👍

[jade fossil]

I need all sources for Artifact Find Chance, im craving it *does not have all ancient artifacts in start of w6

[obsidian briar]

Thank you

[oblique jasper]

Normal

Most of first artifacts are eldritch, but I don’t even have base level of last few artifacts

Haven’t even unlocked last island

[jade fossil]

I need it so badly, Like ik stuff like the artifact for each lvl of sailing and summoning but idk what else

(I got the shank to ancient alr)

[oblique jasper]

Just check idleon insight

[jade fossil]

whats that?

[astral sapphire]

What is the harp and harp strings mentioned in the cavern

[oblique jasper]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=Artifact find

[red mauve]

Also artefact odd drop off a cliff. You do the same this as gaming and just hard spam the low odds untill you get lucky.

[jade fossil]

true

im start spreading all my boats on all islands

because I need to lvl the speed/loot value of all boats

+some alchemy bubbles need some luv

[solar drift]

no you dont.

[jade fossil]

they are pretty low

some are in the 5k

[red mauve]

Ghampters and the bubble for sailing time help. Idk about going to all islands thu.

[solar drift]

you should focus more on later island so you can trade and upgrade your first boat

[jade fossil]

some are in the few hundred k

[jade fossil]

okay

the first boat is rlly important? i always focus it

should I put my artifact find chance captain on it?

[solar drift]

later on if you are farming for eldrich and sovereign artifact , the materials will come by itself

[earnest dawn]

how do i move betweenc averns?? my explorer has up to like bravery but i cant seem to find my way to anywhere other than campfire and well

[solar drift]

just speed and loot value if anything

[jade fossil]

oki

[solar drift]

at end end game you want loot value/loot value

[earnest dawn]

bruh im blind

[jade fossil]

Deathbloom gave me a good dps increase

[solar drift]

the artifacts find chance only give the chest from that captain higher chance and is like 0.01 -> 0.02

[earnest dawn]

is deathbloom best pendent?

[jade fossil]

1 + slab

[jade fossil]

ohhh

[solar drift]

this is best and will stay

[jade fossil]

true

[earnest dawn]

oh yah duh scarf evo

[jade fossil]

afk gain is rlly good

[solar drift]

deathbloom is better than scarf at hounds tho

[earnest dawn]

i have terrible luck with scarf drops on chizoar

[solar drift]

thats about it

thats just drop rate issues

[jade fossil]

Would you say its second best?

[earnest dawn]

indeed my dr needs some love

[solar drift]

not sure

[oblique jasper]

Afk gain SUCKS, I have 10 laptops so that I’m active on all chars at same time

[jade fossil]

I just got 4 of em in 40 runs with 5x dr lol,

[earnest dawn]

only at 5.58 after getting out of guild

[solar drift]

zero doenst have 10 char he have 10 account with only 1 char each

[oblique jasper]

I’m at 18x

[oblique jasper]

Same thing

[jade fossil]

Drop Rate is probably what im begging for

havent gotten a single pristine charm too ever since I got into w6 almost 2 months ago

[oblique jasper]

New arcade bonus and p2w item will help

[solar drift]

you buy them mostly

[oblique jasper]

I think you need m1 for pristine

[jade fossil]

gotta farm keys again😭😭

[solar drift]

miniboss/colo/and yes farm keys

[astral sapphire]

Anyone know what harp and harp strings are in the caverns

[jade fossil]

Chizoar and Troll are my friend cor gems

for*

I got a few hundred keys on Kattlekruk but I dont want to waste them cuz of 5x DR

[oblique jasper]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700

[oblique jasper]

Do obol farm

[jade fossil]

what does Pocket Divinity do?

I keep on hearing abt it

[solar drift]

small doot version

[oblique jasper]

Allow non dooters to link with other gods

[jade fossil]

how many specifically?

only 2

which is insanely good

Finally can out Omniphaw on my characters 😭😭😭

THANK YOU, MY LORD AND SAVIOR HAS GIVEN ME GIFTS

[oblique jasper]

Your welcome

[toxic lintel]

Any tips on how to do the world boss for maestro?

[jade fossil]

does it mean I can link to 3 gods?

[oblique jasper]

!maestro

[obtuse orbit]

To finish maestro advancement quests, you will need to beat Biggie with 1 hp, to do that, you have to make a decision:

1. You can kill Biggie with a bow dodging him every time he walks near you, using the rope (estimated time: 30 minutes)
2. You can kill biggie with 594 defence in 5 minutes by using auto
   You can get the required defence from: FMJ Bubble, thicc skin (Statue), Armor + accessories (amarok is enough), Shrines, Stamps, Star Signs, Defence Cards & Defence Talent (Another option is by adding poopy tools with summer stones, if you have them)

[jade fossil]

on es 4?

[junior arrow]

yes

so thats about half the gods with bonuses now all f2p

[jade fossil]

so im probably gonna run, arctis, omniphaw, and mantis on it

with my dk

[oblique jasper]

Wdym ace

[bleak gazelle]

they weren't asking how to get maestro

[jade fossil]

...

what is your excuse Zero

[bleak gazelle]

otherwise, check out like...4th pin? There's a video guide of how to do it as Vman on nightmare, it's more or less the same, you'll just have less aoe. I'd suggest 100-120m for normal

[oblique jasper]

I Forgot mman needed to kill cchiz for vman

[bleak gazelle]

i'd do harriep + omni/anything else. You can swap the second link to omni when claiming afk and back to nobi or w/e if you're active. Keep harriep so you have 6x prints though

[toxic lintel]

Thanks

[jade fossil]

probably when im not pushing put harriep

for the 6x ore prints

[bleak gazelle]

you don't need omni unless you're checking afk claims. prints are always running though

[oblique jasper]

Oh he was asking how to kill kruk. Why would you try to kill him before getting vman

[solar drift]

because you can rush to w6 without vman

[jade fossil]

Im not 24/7 on idleon, but im pretty active, if anything if im online ill farm crystal mobs

[solar drift]

if hes already at the boss