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eh, it's not bad. I just leave most of them afk half the time and claim once or twice a week lol. as for kruk, fair point, though it seems like that should be fairly easy to upgrade afterwards, since it literally just requires kruk materials.
Your star signs are also slightly inconsistent. I don't think Rift mobs drop cards, so you can probably skip that?
I also don't see Balance of Pain prayer active, either, and I would hope you have MK at Rift <36 given your levels
less than, yes, not past currently. literally just hit the "you don't have multikill anymore unless you add damage cards" wall. which is probably due to alchemy, and yeah forgot about star signs lol.
interestingly, b/c I'm already hitting the 1050m in storage, I actually already have the mats to make most of the marble pieces provided I 2min SB. which is nice. I wasn't quite paying attention to that either lmfao
Getting your weapons upgrade to diablocial tier or higher should help increase kill count, too, due to the respawn on them
this is precisely why I asked somebody to check haha, thanks a ton for all of this
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So I don’t have to farm the statues…?
it's a pretty bad use of trophies
So no?
I wouldn't, just get more DR/dmg and the statue farm speeds way up
i'd save for trophy DR book if you don't have > 80 and gold watches
maybe hats for slab, too, if you want
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Mine is 92
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I splurged on those. My ES dr is like 13.5x and it takes forever to get anything done with W3 statues.
I afk'ed w3 statues
don't you get like max 100 statues per afk or something?
1k
22.16
almost double, checks out
if I get 1k per char thats 2 days per statue so not bad
I just did a test and I get around 40 statues per wormhole
It might be ok to just farm it
Lessgooo
sure, game, I'll get right on that...
Oh, yours is still cheap 
hey, I'm still in early game! I don't even know what those two coins even are!
might be time to get back to gmush farming
After I get all W5 cards to ruby I might get some more gmush kills. Getting 100B was boring
Same. AutoReview won't stop yelling at ms about getting 1T Gmush 🙄 fuck Scoli and his unrealistic unexpectations
who even is this scoli guy smh
Some asshole, probably
sounds like a try hard neckbeard, honestly
took the words out of my mouth
100B was so bad but think about how good 1T would be
you make a compelling point
I also just got all the w6 hats except royal egg so imma just do gmush
would like more utility bubbles to be recommended im sure these three arent the only things I could be atoming
Yo
15 Pristine Charms and still no Crystal Comb... 
is this worth atoming
is that the one from Samurai?
yeah
not as a priority
I wasnt trying to get it but forgot to take my es off samurais and just got it
+1 slab LFG
hype
that row of bubbles you can take to anywhere in the 200-300 range and then however much you need to keep it above your NBLB threshold and just manage it like that
im thinking of putting 20 atoms in this daily tbh Im doing 10 rn
whats your highest cons lvl
1067
what's your cog xp% at?
this or something else
guess i gotta click some more
only 8.1k
6.86k%

yea was fairly easy to get this tbh
Just hit w5 and I'm still not in a guild anyone got a high lvl one
wanna join? 
I sent a request
gatta stay locked in on my solo guild
kek, bjorn is all by himself in Elitist Jerks, i lulled
accepted 
only annoying part of the solo guild is no max gold charm
Those bonuses are crazy thanks a lot man
We've still got a few to max out, but have most of the important ones 
you gotta find me 
@bleak gazelle is that good?
it's a start 
need more xp%
@bleak gazelle
you can replace your non-DKs with more cogs 
hows ur xp lookin these days
For sailing, how do I get the non-gold bar treasure?
I can't upgrade my second ship's speed because I have gotten none of the Green thing
should be from the first island
weird... I get it on the first few chests
it's just rng as far as we know 
both arguably more boring than the other
and since you're just start out and have no other bonuses to sailing, it may take a while to get
just keep opening chests 
How tf did all 3 of my hourly clicks do +1. Larry is at 86%, which means the probability of that happening is 0.3%
its fairly common for folks still very early in sailing to not get a lot of the treasures. 20 chests is practically nothing in grand scheme of how long you'll be working on sailing
were you brand new to sailing? You only get gold bars until level.. 5? sailing. I think. Can't recall the exact level
yes, brand new
this is why i recommend hard pushing 501 larry before you do any sort of hourly clicking. while the % may seem small, when you get cucked, you get cucked hard
Yup, that's the culprit then. You'll get more of the non-gold treasures going forward now
Those first few levels are gold-only since you only use gold to level the first couple of ships
learn something new every day
we've had folks come through here w/ 0 common treasures and some w/ 0 rare treasures so we've had full range of early sailing woes
ahh, you know, we had theorized about that, but thought maybe it was just tied to making x amount of trips to an island
I’ll do my best. My atom generation is 25k per day and it takes around 50k to spend all clicks on larry
anyone got optimal cog setup sheet
divinity prison got hands man Im gonna be in here forever lol
ty
Most optimal method is to follow your heart❤️ (unless your heart tells you do anything besides what kaito sent)
Tough crowd
Anyone know what time hole is coming?
your so funny
Im honored
it literally says the exact time on future content
unless you're iOS, then who knows 
wasn't there like a new setup that focuses more on 1 dk than the other?
or that one week where google put us in jail for like 10 days
Coming to you by 2027
woldnt even be surprised
im just honest
@peak verge
He did it
possibly for when you are active on the 1st dk. that's a whole lot of effort that i cba with
tbh same
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other than directional cogs finally got my lowest cog at 100+
actually one of the worst experiences (in idleon)
one of the worst* so far 
really excited for achievement hunting and 100k dark lanterns
what if they are positive it wont happen, does that count?
For golden nuggets is the full number always spelled out while digging or would it ever be "910k"?
Cause i alwasy clicked my shouvel then just click claim all and its been over a year since i hit 27k nuggets and idk if what i am doign it just not updating the nugget
so you don't have metal detector
the nugget shows the full number
and if you don't have metal detector youb asically never get it
Ok thank you. I am only on the 5th equinox dream so i think i got awhile before i can get it
I give up on you haters
whatever floats your boat can count
@bleak gazelle only have 2 more clouds to unlock in sailing now
not bad 
is it generally recommended to put the stat that will increase ur accuracy onto your gear or your main stat? im pushing w/ DK so i do need the 1.5x acc
not sure what the check mark means here
main stat
i'd say accuracy, you'll most likely replace that gear pretty quickly or you can just recraft once you don't need the acc anymore
but work on your alch/stamps for more base stat (and shaq levels)
gotcha ty!
Accuracy "caps" but damage doesn't. Should get substat from bubbles instead actually?
i defintely have the mats for a couple bubble levels of shaq and wisdom so i should be good there
If you can bubble your accuracy then put main stat on gear
Don't forget about stat stamps too
Im doing things now
great, thanks! last question, do u put amor tokens on tenacity rings? i noticed the armor progression pictures dont show putting tokens on rings for w5
btw whats the best bubble to level up for Dk damage
are u guys prepared for Hole
do we know what map in w5 leads to the hole? im only about half way through it rn
You mean hit mechanic the hole that is coming out on the hit game idleon creater being Lavaflame2 with the update coming out on the 7th of november 2024 at 6pm?
yes
nope
Guys im okay i swear
6pm for you? Damn it comes out at noon for me
what is it tho
are u new to DK or know about the refinery rank dmg buff?
im doin the boss in w5
gotcha, wasnt sure if u need to focus acc bubbles
these are my stants and items rn
im on the oranges map but i have 1925 str, do u have some armor tokens to use?
have u unlocked the 17th orange bubble?
multorange is the name
that one further increases the str you get from the 1st bubble
i think u can get some good dmg from that bubble + bubble 1 and 2
you might need more damage
:O
upgrading the chiz scarf and getting chiz chest and helm could be good
bro i just got 8 printer go brrrs in a row
how'd you get upgraded chiz scarf
you get the recipe from merit
what
i dont have all of my characters at chizor and i need to get the merits too
whats ur roid ragin bubble at
warriors rule could also be good
is the multi orange bubble multiplying the warriors rule buff of roid or normal roid
because its either 321 or 263
from roid
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Do I really need to buy all farming plots to finish farming
Hello how can I create a new account??
Login with a different account...?
I'm missing the DMG needed for W5 boss right?
after switching card and Foods I'm still short a few mil DMG any other thing I might be missing ?
why did my dmg drop by half moving from town to W5 boss area ?
when not in town
Shrine maybe
Hmm I should have the world wide buff one tho
yea no poped up the shrines and it did nothing
could it be a card snapshot?
I dont know exactly what that is but switching card page did not fix it on either side
what counts as the plants evolved for the seashell in gaming? I'm doing insta and geting tier 2 plants but those doesnt seem to count. Even those evolved with cactus barely count
oh okey. well card snapshot is when you have one card set in one world and when you move to another you can switch to another one and you effectively have both active
Doubt that is what is happening. dont think my cards are at the point where they straight up dubble the damage
and twice the dmg does not help me in town
hmm yeah thats is wierd. mine does not change
My guess is precision power talent
Would switching from arctic bear to the Nobisect be a wild idea to get to the dmg threshold?
ahh that might be it
Also idk if im slow or something but my DK has 100 less levels and is 150M Damage
do i just gotta start rushing stuff
¯_(ツ)_/¯
where are you at now?
I dont even have VM ;-;
DAMN am i playing wrong
i mean i go by the rule that if i can get multi kill on the level im on. i then push
Okay so i really just gotta stop farming divinity
5
i was farming till i got the exp while not praying
oh yeah... i did that to to be fair. people told me to farm divinity when i got to world 5. i did that but it is not a must to do that straight away imo
Like i only now learned i was super behind all my spices
i did them all in like 5 minutes half hour ago
Same :-;
and a couple waves away from 200 arena
Let me rephrase that I was behind spice fights not the raw spice farming
i just got this divinity god. Is there a good way to use this? i was thinking of putting everyone in it but i would lose arctic for lab if i do. how do you guys use this?
No one uses this god
Only dooted people
i was thinking of leveling my cooking almost everyone is below 50
Is there a reason to level up cooking?
Like i only did it cause i thought it counted for my skilling damage talent
Skill mastery
i only level up the bb and vman
Same
i even skipped lab when i was in w4 before
i only did it when i came across divinity
are all the equinox challenges going to be this tough 
that's the easiest if u really want to know.

Just reminded me Equinox exists
I got mirror really fast
Like while I was active on it
I was hard pushing all of it
didnt get far tho
I have 122 green stacks
Whats the best spot to do cranium cooking? doing the EQ quest?
is it arena or is there a better spot?
I will kill you with a rock
Wurms in W5 or samurais in w6 depending how far you are. There's some other spots earlier on.
Oranges is fine too
The green artifacts are flooding my collection, finally 😄
Now to wait and get sneaking mastery
what time is the update releasing? its 7th nov for me
this a really good one I want to try to get?
or are the Atom thing I dont have unlocked yet a game changer?
loot pile capacity is pretty good, atleast for me
!merit5
1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
I increased the minimum chest requirement to solve it was that a bad move?
as for Respawn I'm not killing them fast enough to clear out the map yet
Leave it on the normal wooden chest unless you're gonna afk for over a week or something.
You hit artifacts with accuracy by volume.
Soo ship storage then
Guys, Alchemy Slab bonuses are increased by Slab Sovereignty Node?
Nope. Only the actual buffs your slab gives are increased
Oh hey, goofy hit the Ts.
@golden apex better gear and sword and get lucky with damage things from sailing for a quick big jump
probably like half-way done with sailing
cant believe you never started with the eyeball, its the best artifact you can get 
how can i boost my artifact find chance, im almost done with summoning and have every infinite star sign except the final 2 in hydron and some at the very top of seraph active, but i just barely get past 0.01% with eldritch winz lantern and the furthest island my sailors are on being the fury relic island
is the only way to get better sailors
0.01% is normal, its all about quantity not quality at this point
hard? sure but still farmable
there are things such as gold stopwatches that have no other source that are better used for trophies
I will probably still buy it though, i really doesnt have time for farming statue. No autoloot
hate to break it to you - but the current sovereigns you have right now are all the very easy ones. the difficulty ramps up 10-1k times from where you are at. you are maybe 1-5% done w/ sovereign.
New artifact find sources in W6 are: turtle vial (52% before vial mastery), killroy prime (dependent on how many skulls you spend), sneaking pristine charm (1.4x), Ender Captains unlock through Jade Emporium (1.25x/captain), and Artifact Attraction lab node unlock through Jade Emporium (1.5x).
Also why w3 statue hard to do? Is there like any specific reason.
You need more DR
They are regular drops so only ES can farm them efficiently. You are otherwise forced to claim afk gains.
w3 statues drop from page 1 of mob drops, not as a primary crystal farm. so ES is better than DK so you don't get benefit from DK being able to roll for loot multiple times at lower DR threshold versus the higher DR threshold required to get the w3 statues
How much dr do I even need to do w3 statue farm?
10-15 is a decent place to start. I would consider other grinds if you are not there yet.
For the two soul one I will probably just do royal worm quest
You will also likely farm clammies with DK and chocolate chip
i understand from your perspective w/o autoloot... but the quest only gives 2500 per character and to even reach that quest in the qusetline, you have to wait ~2.5 weeks per character
Ooops W3 not W4 nevermind
Im at 14.5 dr, for the statue I should farm on the later mob that have the 3.334 drop chance right?
generally yes. because of how slow it is, i recommend farming at the 'worse mob' until you have enough cards to ruby it, then spend the rest of the time at the 'better mob' - that way by the time you finish the 3 w3 statues, you'll have 6 mobs rubied
I recommend chowing your BB on statue mobs so you feel less fomo candying your chows later
It's not very significant but a chow can probably get you a few hundred statues
Same for greenstacks. Post greenstack chows is regret
Super chow*
I only need schows on w6 and w5 mob, but i will probably still afk there for extra statue
How about kachow statue? Repeat the onxy man quest or something?
What should vman do after he's reached the level required to equip the last tool in all skills?
cards
Hello, now that I'm in world 5 (only 4 nodes in) should I level this talent? or is there something else that's more important.
so when is the new update supposed to drop today?
If your ES is going to be on that skilling preset, yeah, that's fine
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Your 8th, 9th and 10th characters should be an extra SB, DK and ES. All of them are generally stuck in the lab/divinity 90% of the time on the skilling presets so they should have all the skill related talents maxxed out. (div exp, family talents, symbols etc.)
Im only on my 8th char right now. This is my only ES at the omemnt
Save the points if you're not putting him in divinity right away.
but going that way i assume i still level it since i have 7/8 chars in divinity and then respec out of it when i get a second ES dedicated to divinity EXP?
You can level it on your skilling preset on your current ES.
But you're bound to have on ES/DK active while everyone else does divinity, so they're not gonna benefit from it if they're on the combat preset.
What are the benefits of having a second ES over a second Bubo?
I think I will let my game get some rest before the new content. It's getting a workout in that hole 
Only 3 more hours till Hole
all my devices are ready to update. I'll just need to fight a boss real quick before jumping on
Not much need for a second bubo. A second ES can link to two gods, permanently provide the family talent buff to everyone else, worship buffs stay relevant longer than alchemy buffs down the line (at least for now) etc.
Okay, ES it is then. I'm pretty close to having my 10th character so I wasn't sure which to choose.
1 bubo, 1 BB, 1 BM, 1 Vman and then 2x ES, DK and SB is the current go-to until new classes are released
Hyped for the class update when the weeklies start to come out.

Probably won't be one of the first few but he has been teasing it as a weekly.
It's been on the roadmap for a very long time now and extra stuff that wasn't there initially kept getting added down the line. I wouldn't hold my breath for new classes anytime soon.
I wish the VMan class upgrade would be a Grand Administrator that would let you manage all other classes from him... would probably be a ton of work to program, though
Manage what exactly?
Yeah, just good to know it's being worked towards
Update soon but I'm going to eep
It's 3PM bruh, what eep
It's 10pm here
gear, inventory, skills. Basically you would be able to move stuff around without logging into the character. It would make minmaxers joyful and cry at the same time
Update at 1am I ain't staying up
Smh imagine being in the wrong timezone.
Real
Remember to help me say hi to lava in stream
Ima dip now
Gn chat
attending the stream will be somewhat harder in the middle of the workday 
Gn gamer
My soul can attend the stream you cant🫠
how long till the update drops?
What's best endgame captain traits?
Probably double loot once your speed is sorted out
those dang stars / skulls in the log game.. ai swear at times it is a star and some reason it is a skull…
it is random. the skulls that are shown just tell you how many they are. it's just % based rng
makes sense 😭 always try and cheese it recording it on separate device and play back.. Lava out smarting me 😅
What card should i use for mining now that i have unlocked rift (all mining cards are now passive" ?
skill eff, afk gains, food boost, hp
there are skill eff cards?
guys how to know the release of upd again?
ooh, niceeee thank youuu
Dayummm big boost
oh right, dont have that one 😄
that was still Gold on me (levl 4)
Can't wait to throw money at the new hole items
is there an ideal god guide/setup?
!guide has a few setups, but this will probably all change with Hole being released
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
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Last chance to get whatever you want from arcade shop b4 it's gone
wow wtf, why did i get a notification about a reaction
do i like that 
can i even disable that?
dude wtf
discord 
discoooooooooord 
This is too fun
imagine if discord had patch notes for the 2394723948 updates they push out a day sometimes
the boys are back 
rookie numbers
wookie im still waiting for the cookies
PFfff
59b gmush LMAO
custom probably ate them, that why you still dont have em
just 1 lucky lad
you dont
😠 i want m
The bean awakes from its eternal slumber in preparation for the advent of the hole
have fun picking up 48 B of them then lol
48 bubble 2 clicks
do not enter wookies slumber area
has he cooked?
will that even be worth +1 cooking lvl XD
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ima figure out in a bit
8 more mins
intresting, sneaking inv not even full
arti!
this is nice...
wait I have a lot of gold
pumpkin patch 🙂
hole gang
Is the update in android alrdy out?
who's ready to mess up some arbitrary bit of the update and end up having to play catch up
ok where is the hole
not in yet, else #patch-notes📝 says where to go
yeah but where in mister brightside map
please show way to hole 🙂
uh oh @echo crag
2x damage... 60% dr...
holy...
thats a tad bit good
and all that for only 19.99, did lava forget to mark that up at 29.99 ??
i'll take it as a win
yup
How to enter
Take the plunge, you won't die.
buy the lanterns from the gem shop for 1 gem lmao it should get us started
How do I get into the cavern? I have the campfire menu open but it will not let me in
click the hole
Is the hole an active play feature, or should I have my guys in there AFK?
from what it seems its a bit of both
i see people mining and the thing says i have the motherlode unlocked bu i dont see how it ya know
bottom left ,u can change levels
oh my god i was blind
holy moly this is huge
where did you see that ?
what should i buy from gem shop?
What platform are you all playing on? It’s not out on steam nor IOS for me 😭
ngl i just click whatever lol
time to spend some green gems
steam is out for me
when wookie sees me in chat
is removing the rock layer worth it?
weird i got to lvl 2 but i dont have anything special
look in campfire
this guy got to level 2 and it now shows for me
i am lol
lookie here
nope all i got is the explorer
oh, gotta click on the guy on the ground in that cavern
he's on the ground to the right of it
didn't see him before due to people
strange it got auto pickedup for me
how do I get this?????
new gemshop bundle
Whats the play here?
bundle go brr
Literally just wait?
yes?
ah didn see the cavern bar o nthe left side, that why
how do you get past the rock?
Breh I now have to MULTI manage the stupid well
this is too much brain can not handle
lul
How do I even go to the motherload?
He's already at den
yeah its a bit of odd placement ngl
lava should have made a arrow point to it for the first time it appear
if he wants it to last, he gotta gate it else the whale will just speed through it
Shhh the whale is not speedy enough
i uhh
idk what this does... but ima findout the hard way
Does anyone else's game keep crashing?
OKAY never mind. I got insta bonked
I see the necessity. It does also make the mechanic "last" about 20 seconds today before we wait 24hrs. Feels rough, lol
Which one should I upgrade the explorer or engineer?
both
we'll probably get more to manage as we progess
Is there a way to reset the hounds bonus damage?
Hold the stone down
Ah ok thanks
fyi this means that the hound does 3153M damage... learned the hard way
I put it nice and high for my main, but then my mage got insta killed
i was not strong enough to tank this 
thats cavern 3 ?
One of the engineer bonuses give extra bucket fill rate depending on how many hound you kill, on each class
yea i saw
so worth doing them with 4 classes with no extra damage bonus at least once
chonky
my bucket... is filling every HOUR now
what does gravel removal do in bucket?
how and why are u at layer 8 i cant pass 6
silver stop watches let you reset the daily limit
does gold do the same i wonder 🙂
lame
not really surprised lava made so gold doesnt work
same
if you're on steam, verify game files
bb freed from kitchen jail, now a resident of motherlode jail
Do we need to do this across all our characters or is the Hole more of an account wide can do it on a single character?
Does anyone know if the dogs in cave 3 are chowable?
For the motherload? Seems like you can only do 5 total breaks a day on it from what it looked like on my end. Guessing all characters help progress the breaking of the motherlode node?
thats cave 2
ahh youre right, my bad
Does having more than 1 character AFK in the hole help?
dk goes ham on cavern 3 oml
motherlode progress is helped by afks
I tested the golden pocketwatch doesnt reset the day
So motherload needs actual days
why does this kill u bruh
Do you mean getting to the next cavern? I have already broken all the layers for today
silver watches work
How do you upgrade the bucket size in cavern 1?
Opal requires 1.05k but cant hold that much
Anyone know how to show respect in bravery? (4th cave?
engineer upgrade
enigneer resolves most
the 100 gravel one increases max bucket size every time it fills up
well him or gems
Nono Enigneer or whale 🙂
egineer or doot 😔
you have to afk there for one hour if I'm doing it correctly
Am I high, engineer where? xD
i mean we did get 4k gems with the rest of the bundle....
the 2nd villager, you get him when you got to cave 2
already gone LOL
engineer 3 unlocks the bucket expander
which needs you to lvl up the 1st villager
Forgot to collect him lol
scuse me?!
Lantern fixes it
he's on to you
"fixes" 

all classes are denied wym
as for lvling up engineer to 3 for bucket expander, nah, lvl 2 has it.
unless bucket expander is a seperate upgrade
Should I give opal to engineer or no
from the fill up to increase max bucket size one
more xp so yes
I give more to explorer for now, to unlock caves sooner
What's the play when first starting? Should you start filling up your gravel bucket, or immediately begin removing the rock layer?
Enigneer is better imo
dont break rock. havent found a use for it
Is there a recommended spot for golden hampter farming?
unlocks next rock type to collect for later engineer levels
dont bother with rock breaking until you actually are ready to grind for those upgrades
wurms > ojs
Cool!
Ill go load up at wurms then for my 100k!
i just saw this in patchnotes, i wonder how big it is
cuz we porbably all forgot about it
oh nice! shame im nowhere near that upgrade yet. only just got to lvl 70 yesterday
not touching them shinies
How did ppl get past layer 6 on motherload? says I reached daily cap (come back tmw)
silver watches
silver watches to move daily reset time
tbh the shiny upgrades are eventuallyy worth it, especially if you have that shinytown to speed things up
oh... so golden one doesnt work but silver yes? meh
he says he wants it to work eventually, so upcoming bugfix I guess
I'm a touch confused on how to quickly advance at the beginning, I've just deposited my opals and got to level 2, but now it looks like it'll take 5 hours before the next opal or levelup. Are y'all buying lanterns to get so far?
for what? the well?
theres only 2 lanterns you can buy atm? so doubt so, might be the silver watchs
no, we are upgrading engineer upgrades
can buy 6 in the oddities tab
you get engineer from cave 2, his upgrades megaboost gravel gain rate
2 free lanterns, you can buy more in the new "oddities" tab
so I recommend lvling up explorer with your initial opals
the next cave will give even more opals you can then use on explorer or engineer once you get him. I recommend getting gravel for the upgrades that scale for gravel gain rate first
Oh lol, I just noticed the cavern toggle on the bottom left
That just might be what I was missing
yeah that toggle should have been above the opals/camp lol
Bravery does not require everybody afk there?
Is motherlode full active except for the rock accumulation
WHen I afk on the motherlode mining it says i got "x,xxx ore" but it doesn't progress the layer im on so that ore is fake
not sure what bravery is, as for motherlode, probably active only. its wierd, but yea, idk.
that ore is used for other bonuses
is it tracked somewhere ace, like can u see it?
should show in engineer's tab
its tracked right where it says layer, to left of it
so is the bucket just "account wide" no character needs to be there?
oh wait you mean gained, not left
How do I get cobalt robe?
i'm not referring to gained or left.
When you collect afk gains if you gain '2000 ore' and you have 10,000/10,000 left, That 10,000 doesn't change
Mine doesn't show it. Are you referring to the rocks gained from the well?
Is there any way (other than gold stopwatches) to skip past the 5-per-day motherload breaking cap?
Gold stopwatch doesnt work. Silver stopwatch does somewhat work. Check guide in pins.
Been updating it and has that info.
Oh cool, thanks
@bleak gazelle I was talking about these from afk gains but i wasn't picking them up off the ground and i'm not sure if my auto-loot was not picking them up either. Might be skill issue or auto-loot is broken for these haha
How do I get my HP up on my characters? I've got a 554 ES with damn 165K health
why you need more
this update is zzzzz
Wait do we have to afk at the bravery statue?
what class i need?
Also the more HP you have the more bonus youd get from the damage buff from the warrior no?
I'd assume warrior for that
Maybe just swap to any other class?
autoloot isn't broken afaik, rocks keep dropping even when it says 0 ore remaining
I think its just 'wierdly coded' at the moment.
Yeah you can use them fore future layers
and the physical ore drops themselves are just for show instead of contributing to the counter at all, afaik
the 117k is motherload ore, not gravel
I think he means to buy the upgrade
just the 1st gem upgrgade that make so you get 2x from the well isnt that costy
When the "Hounds from Beyond" relevant? I am only on the 1st level so I am not sure if I should buy that now, or opals
Okay
anyone know what removing rock layer does compare to collecting gravel?
it unlocks gold dust, the next resource
useless if you aren't at that point in engineer upgrades
assumedly you will keep unlocking more resources as you progress
I think you need to pick them up for them to count. Like I said when I collected afk gains and got '3,000 ore' the counter didn't change until i picked up the drops
someone could test it easily if they wanted. I can't be bothered 😂
How do I collect gravel? When I go AFK when that is selected it says "NOTHING"
gravel is account wide
What is the bravery statue and do I have to return to it one hour I unlocked it??
you dojnt need to be there to get it
gravel default at the beggining is 10/hr so if you try for 2 min you will get zero
anyone know how to "show respect"
assumedly the statue needs you to be a warrior class
I was a warrior
until you took an arrow to the knee?
Active (and I guess afk) ore mined counts towards the Engineer bonus. I suppose layer ore is only active if you claimed afk and yours didn't change
oh, then idk. lets you fight things for rewards though. idk what kind. saw lava do so briefly.
but i was hotswapping at time so I missed most of what he did there.
I’m just gonna wait an hour and return from there
But just wanted to check if anyone else unlocked it before
stopwatch might help?
Do I want to remove gravel? Or remove rock layer?
since silver helps for reset for motherload at least
wake up
Does having more than one char AFK collect more gravel?
gravel until you need a new ressource
remove gravel until you need the resource after, yea
gravel is not affected by AFK
gravel is account wide passive, dont need to be there.
It's like cloud on w3 assuming every1 in w5 has that
So is there any reason to AFK there after you have taken out all of the layers?
maybe later cave? idk.
probably that ^
and you wont take out all the layers any time soon most likely.
need those 1337 h@x0r strats to get them right now.
they mioght have used silver watches
I fear the one who has enough silver to get to cave 10+
true, idk how much the later caves take
how do i put it back to zero
It’s not called Idleon for a reason
Hold on it
then let go to reset
Can we afk the mother lode ?
ok, got my access to bucket expansion, I no longer need to care for awhile.
I saw something about being able to link to 2 divinities at once, is that a thing? Do I have to unlock it somehow?
keep progressing
yes, make sure to pick up the ore when you collect afk gains
the motherlode mining, not the rest of the content
What are the priority items in the gem tier list for the hole?
how rich are u is the real question >.>
How does bravery work ? it tells me to come back on another character
When you click him he says to leave the character there and come back in an hour, so thats what I started doing. Pretty sure I'm on the right track based on the player menu.
Anyone knows why my Bug catching xp requirement is so high?
i dont get it how do i collect rocks
When you buy Parallel Villager from gem shop it doesn't ahve a visual representation that you have it?
click on the bucket
thanks\
oh he meant literally collect haha
People are mining. Am I missing something 
i mean earn rocks
Ah I see. That’s probably it. Thank you
is this good
Level up your first villager and then look here
mine.
Okies thank you
whatv the hell are they minning i dont have it
How do we unlock additional villagers?
Went in it with another character, said hello then clicked and it worked
time to get some work done while i wait for exp/gravel
get to later caves to get more villagers]
Its on another layer, you see everyone but they can be in different cave
Maybe saying hello worked ? I mean, it talked about respect
no idea which cave gives which villager
Ah ok so cavern 3 isn’t enough then
do i stay online in the cave to earn rocks or is this good
you dont need to stay in cavern
can i log off and still earn
Yes, your Well Buckets earn rocks even while you're AFK
thanks
Not sure, someone else mentioned having that issue, too, and I just told them to check #bug-reports-🐛 to see if anyone else had similar issues 
Oh well! Thx ace, as always
https://i.imgur.com/FsEPj8P.png
That's not cool
do i invest more opals in engineer or explorer?
i cant afford any of the engineer upgrades tho
whats best upgrades from shop to buy?
I put 3 in engie, 4 in explorer.
The permanent ones.
how does the gain respect and wait 1h work? 1h is already over for me?
do it on someone else and be afk for the full hour
yeah thats what i did
then im not sure
do you have to stay there?
Not sure it works but here's what I did : went on another character, said hello in chat, then clicked on it
How do I unlock the conjurer ?
where can i find this stone that i keep minnning
How many rocks do you need to unlock new layer
In the engineer bucket buff
resource boost or viligers?
oh i didnt unlock it
i am so lost, between the people who are time skipping, those who arent and my own stupidty lol
does the bravery stack on multiple character anyone know?
what is bravery
You can idle there with multiple characters, it'll add up, but if you have say 4 chars there and use a lantern you only get 2 hr
idle where?
the hole
mine just says doing nothing
its the 4th floor
The hole. New content, there's a statue 4 chambers in, you gotta idle in that room specifically.
ok i am def not there yet
bruh
well i guess its lab again lol
were do you get that
like i dumped my opals into the explorer and I guess that's all I can do
biiiig update that you can only do 2 minutes the first day hah
check the gem shop, there are 2 lanterns for 1 gem apiece. That got me to chamber 4 at least. Might want to jump onto a less populated server so you can see what's happening in each chamber.. there's a villager in one of them
it takes 100 days of afk on every character to finish bravery jeez
probably there are boosts from villagers about it
I was jumping around servers but they are all swarmed lol
AHH i just got to work like 20mins after his announcement. Gotta wait like 7hrs.
log in once so it starts collecting gravel
Paying respect
its like fractal but u can't use candy
Nice the new update
how do you increase bucket size?
anyone know how to pay respect?
Don't know
I used the 2 free lanterns and this is my progress.. did something fuck up? I see people several caves ahead
u have few opals
and how do I get opals?
+opals >> +xp
The longer you wait to use time-skips the bigger the effect
mine the rock
Yes little bit
stuck at 100 rock but I need 1k lol
Motherlode drops some, the well you can trade for some, the third cavern has some, the fourth.. ehh, a little less
Bar-Expand-O-Rama engineer upgrade and then let the bar fill up
Where is. The cavern
Ahhh I see it. Expand full bars. TY!
AFK a character in that room for 1hr to "pay respect" and get the menu
you can use lanterns tho
If you wanna get opals, hounds are defo one of the ways. I did 100 amplifiers and easily got 3 opals with 600m dmg maximum
ok how do u get lanterns after u use the ones in the gem shop?
you get the magician villager once you reach the bell (last place in 1st cave) he gives nice bonuses 😄
like 243x forge cap XD
technically if you have enough silver stop watches you can just keep reseting the daily cap
but I highly doubt anyone has enough to reset it more than once
300% multi ore is cool too
How does the dog den work...I died lol
kill dogs, if dogs are alive too long they send skulls to charge fear bar. if bar full = you die
any prefered classes for this?
How do I get to the next cavern?
You need to do it on all of the classes for highscores at least once (gives a bonus with an upgrade). Looks like DK is really good atm
What specifically is unlocking the new characters? Is it villager 1 levelling up? Trying to anticipate when I might get the third guy
Is it better to AFK or Active on the DK?
I don't think you can afk hounds.
They're found in specific caves when you push through with explorer villager. So yeah Villager 1 levelling up 
So just dump pretty much all opals in villager 1?
Also it’s telling me to come back tomorrow for motherlode? Sadge
save some for the next few if you're not gonna be getting any for a good while, there's a daily cap by the looks of it for obtaining opals from certain activities
yeah personally, 3 in engineer I can't keep up with him.
I’ve only put 2 on explorer 1 in engineer
you can fast forward with silver stop watches, but the guide say to make sure you don't actually go over your daily reset time with them.
what do i need this for?
Next rock type. Don't need to do it until you need it
oh thanks
3rd villager 👀
@fast grail AYO this update is your time to shine defense boi
Is it worth buying?
+1 for slab, very minor use-case for active ES
the lanterns are basically free
do you get infinite sprinklers if you buy all 4 gem shop upgrades, or am i misunderstanding the description? 30% chance x 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 = 101.25% 
if you bought all the oddities already why not
the damage multi is a separate multi, like the phoenix wing
what is the refill chance at 4/4 then
Oh I'm blind fr
if you'd get a dollar for each time you posted this...
idk, probably only like 10 dollars, haven't used it too much 
i like this one better 
what layers are you guys on
I tried 
for motherload
8 times my highest score btw
you can do 5 layers per day, so everyone would be at 6 at the most
Capped at 6 by the looks of it
use silver stop watches
ballers are gonna use stop watches to skip forward days
nice to see the w2 boss rewards come into play tbh
my daily is too far away to bother with silvers for the tiny bit of progress i'll get 
So on layer 4 the dude says not gonna speak swap character and come back in 1 hur.. what class should I use?
You're so right sexy forgot about those
once he fixes gold watches tho 👀
It has some hard coded values, can check what those were
he said he did that on purpose
he intentionally disable gold watches for those rn
orly I though he meant he was going to fix it >.< dang
he said for now at least so people dont finish the update in 1 day
a world 2 boss drops silver stop watches?
world 2 daily boss event, you can turn trophies into watches (using rotating rewards)
30%, 43%, 53% and 60%
Those are the same as listed there nice
Oh wait, where did you get that from? It's on the wiki now?
my screenshot is from the gemshop section of the wiki
it literally doesn't matter. you're just afking for time, similar to fractal
you want to afk on everyone like lab anyway
takes 100 days of afk on everyone to finish it
What do you have to do in the Bravery section (Cave 4 )
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wait 1 full hour afk
I guess motherlode mining is active only?
no
Doesn't seem to get progress when I have people mining afk haha
it does, but you have to pickup the ore off the ground for it to count
it's the amount of ore picked up that counts toward the bar progress
yes
So how do you get the rocks? Nothing happens
do I have a wrong discord version?
No bookmarks for me
So I just have to afk offline there? Cus there's no active stuff to do at the well.
oh, i forgot bookmarks were a thing, they disappeared for me again
What I am supposed to do in bravery?
whats a big boy score/mutiplier on the den? reaching 230k seems a bit too high right now for me...
so afk at the statue counts as paying respect times?
What do you do in the well
yoo all eldritch
you can check afk info screen 
these people really don’t read
nope 
My afk shows nothing
that wasn't directed at you
well is for gaining materials to buy engineer buffs
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i failed 50% for raccoon god
do I need the shrines in the hole?
considering we'll be afking there, I would throw them in w5 town
What's the time zone for this? is it same as mine?
think it's GMT/UTC
Alright thx
someone allready knows what measurment bonuses are? im feelin kinda lost with it
Just wanted to ask that is the new echoes of wisdom pack any worth it
what class is best for killing hounds?
yes? account wide DR and hole xp, a new item for damage/DR and a bunch of gems is pretty good 
Alert to all tht are still upgrading breeding, Lava just reset Breed ability pulse back to 91 DNA 🧍
anything with good aoe and ideally high defense, so DK will probably be easiest for most, but bubo/sb are other good options
Ok time to throw money at my in-game problems
What are decent scores here?
🤷♂️
There seems to be a balance between pushing the first bonus too high, and not high enough.
when does 1 use these
exact same for warrior
can you not use candies on divinity
div has no "time skip" - i.e. no candy, no pearl, no balloon
gotcha ty ty
So I didn't see the engineer on the ground since there were too many people in there and I used all my opals on the explorer first. All I can do is wait until explorer opens the next chamber, right?
fight the dogs
im killing them and the meter isnt going up
meter up = bad
am i the only one that finds this confusing?
Bar fills, eats half your rocks, now can fill up to 150
much more clear, thank you! 
more or less. can always buy some opals in gemshop if you want. you can get some more opals from the well after some time, too
who do we give the opals to
yes 
a few to engineer to unlock some upgrades, rest to first guy to unlock new caverns
Should i be able to teleport to the hole even i haven't ever left the W5 town?
We unlock the engineer when ?
uhh, 2nd cavern i think?
2nd cavern w/ motherlode, right side. gotta click him
oh I jump layer too quick then
nvm, he was under people
@strong shale the stalker I see you in world 5 home right now
it's good to buy the parallel villagers?
What?!
Im not on right now
You
ghostgun 
if I dont touch the well overnight, with Expand full bars, will I have any gravel in the morning or just a bigger maximum
Are we gonna win this?
Expand full bars only takes half the max to increase it so you'd have at worst half your current max
new card?
can I increase my maximum only once or does it keep going on its own before I check it?
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thank you
hey guys, do i need to stay offline within the monument area in the hole to unlock everything?
In the Hole Guide, it says "You need to push most kills on Each class type (Warri/Mage/Archer/Beginner) for a Schematic that increased bucket fill rate based on their highest. DO THIS WITHOUT AMPLIFIERS."
I ran all classes on the hounds with no amplifier and didn't get a schematic. I'm sure I'm missing something obvious - any clarification would be appreciated.
What are the lanterns for?
Um...
