lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[solar seal]

EMPTY

[strong shale]

[bleak gazelle]

Talents are mostly fine, gear is mostly fine, too, could use better rings. You just need damage from all the stuff from w1-5

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/zY5iV5m.png

[stuck river]

It's not loading for me can you describe

[proud pumice]

show us your damage without this skill that reduces damage

[gilded sedge]

Gear is fine is a criminal statement

[strong shale]

the classic no book user

[bright meteor]

not enough advices...

[strong shale]

so everything is maxed at like 129

[stuck river]

Not loading aaaaa

[proud pumice]

i heard earlier someone recommending 35M dmg on DK for kattlekruk

[bleak gazelle]

he's at kruk with 2.6m daamge. full void armor, lustre weapon, that moon pendant that I forgot the stats for, neutron ring and frisbee ring

[stuck river]

Yes

[bright meteor]

I literally said I'm lazy to craft items and I still get reviews on that...

[stuck river]

Ok finally uh yea

[strong shale]

ES doesnt efficient in worship right? 😮 https://i.imgur.com/Y6AeuSu.png

[stuck river]

How did you even get there lmfao

[strong shale]

oh i didnt even use the slot it has 🤣

[bleak gazelle]

oh that's what you meant by crafting overall

[bright meteor]

yes

[solar seal]

just because you have a skill, does not mean you should use it. stop using the +acc/def, -dmg skill. you should be finding acc from other sources

[pastel kayak]

What rings to make?

[bright meteor]

dw there is going to be that big time to overhaul all chars pouches and equipments tools and other stuff

[stuck river]

Are the talents normal guys

[strong shale]

no they arent booked

[bleak gazelle]

"normal" as in everything is maxed out with low or no book levels

[strong shale]

guy needs his roast fix

https://tenor.com/cq773i9hywP.gif

[stuck river]

Es is just better for kattle in every department

[bleak gazelle]

You can book more talents than the first one on each page, just click the arrows under the skill icon to change it

[stuck river]

He's gonna book the +acc/def -damage skill trust

[bleak gazelle]

Actually, you've got more of your tab 1 talents booked, too

[bright meteor]

I guess I'm the only one who can help myself to progress the most

or should I move w6 chat

[strong shale]

you have a really good idea what to do

w6 chat might help you more though

[bright meteor]

w6 might be more harsh

[gilded sedge]

The forbidden land

[solar seal]

you can try in w6, usually they'll just tell you to autoreview cause its w6

[bright meteor]

they gave me some tips with farming pretty useful

[hard grove]

what is the best talent setup for killing kattle on ES?

[bleak gazelle]

guh, farming, my hatred

[hard grove]

also I have 30m damage!!

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/YpXqhL4.png

[hard grove]

thanks to dr. d card

[solar seal]

just book and max tab 4 damage skills

its not really anything complex

[hard grove]

oh ok

[solar seal]

max tab 2 skill 5 to make boss die faster

otherwise its pretty straight forward

[hard grove]

also I got my hands on a dootophone due to the treasure hunt 4 gold egg capsules

[bleak gazelle]

I'd book the red ones and drop points in purple to fund them

[bright meteor]

Ok but are you done with some stones in summoning ?

[hard grove]

I have 535 points in tab 4

[bleak gazelle]

i've only completed white and green battles so far

but summoning is more fun than farming

[bright meteor]

Farming is just slow early game

[solar seal]

farming = how much gems you farmed for more plots :3

[bright meteor]

I bet it's get better

[hard grove]

what tab 4 talents do I book? (126 lightning and 126 meteor shower booked alr)

[bright meteor]

Ignoring keys and colo tickets

Can't turn them though

[solar seal]

yeah i'm just stockpiling mine too until i get more bjp

do it all at once in shorter time

[bright meteor]

Btw does miniboss eclipse skull exist lol

[bleak gazelle]

chain bolt? and wisdom book

[hard grove]

i have 124 wis book

127 is max

[strong shale]

think once i get all the nullo salts im gonna do 10 sets of kruk armor in 1 day

[hard grove]

is speedy book good for kruk?

[strong shale]

start with troll, then magma

[strong shale]

i just level it anyways

might be good for nm kruk if udont have high att speed

or dmg

[hard grove]

my first row is maxed along with papers, and wis what next i have 114 leftover after that

tab 3 btw

[bleak gazelle]

flasks talent to help with tab 1 overclocked energy

so whatever your bubble is at for that

[hard grove]

and after maxing all the important stuff in tab 1 i have 191 left over

[bright meteor]

My Idleon addiction took me over couldn't play Minecraft today 😞

[strong shale]

im close to an extra 100% skill exp from skill mastery, sailing summoning, lab all need like 100 and alchemy (200)

[pastel kayak]

Is that better?

[hard grove]

and my overclocked is at max from the talent previouslt

[strong shale]

huge gains

[hard grove]

ig obols or statues for tab 3?

[pastel kayak]

With the first tab I had over 1500 pints cause of one of the pets I have

[pastel kayak]

I used all the books I could

[bleak gazelle]

probably statues unless you actually have a decent amount of wisdom on obols

[hard grove]

Tab 3 btw

aight

[strong shale]

get your levels higher fr

[hard grove]

on what?

[strong shale]

stamp, nado, passive

[solar seal]

11M is better but still too low for kruk - you'll need to pump some more dmg
Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, and talents are all sources of damage

[bleak gazelle]

why is yours broken into two lines like that

[hard grove]

stamp is maxed i belive whats passive?

[solar seal]

cause i typed 1st part, 2nd part is just a copy-pasta

taht i stole from you

[strong shale]

2nd from the right

[pastel kayak]

Them I have

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/5wu406S.png

[hard grove]

oh

[strong shale]

🤣 https://i.imgur.com/4OiP3Sy.png

my skilling ES

[bleak gazelle]

i like your trapping obol

[hard grove]

alr lets see if i can kill it

[strong shale]

level mage is best in alchemy and level that talent bubble @hard grove

[bleak gazelle]

smh, worship charge not maxed

[hard grove]

32m

[strong shale]

u got that easy

[hard grove]

damage

[bleak gazelle]

err, wait, that's worship xp isn't it

[strong shale]

easy 5 min kill go on

[bleak gazelle]

actually, worship charge is 8 levels lower than stamps, so not maxed

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/tEspef7.png @_@ do these give colo tickets

[hard grove]

i fucked up

[strong shale]

???

[hard grove]

gotta quick assign attacks

[strong shale]

oh i did that too lol

[hard grove]

also these moles are NOT dying

[strong shale]

yeah cuz ur not using ur attacks xd

[hard grove]

99b health

[strong shale]

meteor and shit

[hard grove]

i am using the attacks

[strong shale]

wth

might be alchemy diff?

[bright meteor]

I can't use bb now so no schowing, and I'm working on w5 onyx statues with bubo to get alchemy progress at the same time

[hard grove]

i think i have to not just auto

[strong shale]

get closer to him

[hard grove]

and actually go for the moles

[solar seal]

show your attack bar

[strong shale]

^

should be like this (without portal) https://i.imgur.com/awsOtZS.png

[hard grove]

ok

[bright meteor]

#💖future-content-blog

[hard grove]

should i put ice?

[strong shale]

no

[hard grove]

ok

just those 5?

[strong shale]

yeah

and fireball if u want but not necessary

wish i had a boss i could prog lol

[solar seal]

you do, its called alchemy and it never dies

[strong shale]

rofll

[hard grove]

and then just stand inside of kruk

[bleak gazelle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/362693647138816003/750230712291950702/ezgif.com-add-text.gif

[hard grove]

and auto?

[strong shale]

yeah

[hard grove]

how close inside?

[strong shale]

meteors should like 1-2 hit moles

if not, book that talent

[hard grove]

THEY DONT 1-2 hit

Its at 133

[strong shale]

[bleak gazelle]

tbf, meteors have to actually land on the moles to damage them

[hard grove]

bro this was my last key

[strong shale]

no idea you can farm them tho

oh shit hit my 2nd kruk obol in a row

[hard grove]

ill send my IE and tell me if kruk is within any range

[strong shale]

alright

ill look and tell u what u can immediatly level

he's coming https://i.imgur.com/995IAyv.png

[hard grove]

https://ikeaiswizrd.idleonefficiency.com/

[strong shale]

gotta get what, 770 more keys??

[bleak gazelle]

dang, unlocked mega 8 and 9 today

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/IEi1bic.png

[hard grove]

what about my shitty stamps

[strong shale]

you need at least 1k levels in combat stamps, and 2k levels in skilling

[hard grove]

damn

[strong shale]

unlocking more stamps https://i.imgur.com/ZW7Kz9U.png

[hard grove]

what would the skilling do

[bright meteor]

Got mf17 today

[forest dust]

My phone cannot copy and paste raws to use auto review 🥲

[strong shale]

if u unlock more stamps, you get more dmg on ES

[forest dust]

every time I copy raws it says it's wrong for some reason

First user jus gives old data

[bleak gazelle]

have you tried using Toolbox's?

[forest dust]

I haven't tried that

[paper sail]

Update your public IE profile

[hard grove]

what else do i need

[forest dust]

Okay

[strong shale]

stamps should give u like 10m more dmg

[hard grove]

just unlocking?

[strong shale]

just do all the quests on 1 character in w1-3

big time yeah

[hard grove]

and all of them?

and then what do I level

[terse verge]

If your profile is public, you can just enter in first character name instead of raw data

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/XWSv3lA.png

[hard grove]

stamps wise

[strong shale]

another tenacity ring, maybe new weap if u can?

[hard grove]

nah thats old

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/N7qSeU2.png

[strong shale]

yea thats 3 days old

can u update

[hard grove]

just updated

[bleak gazelle]

i should do some quests on vman

maybe that's what i should work on

[hard grove]

https://ikeaiswizrd.idleonefficiency.com/

[bleak gazelle]

work on slab too

[hard grove]

NO NOT SLAB

[strong shale]

not updating

[hard grove]

I FUCKING HATE SLAB

[bleak gazelle]

not you, me

[hard grove]

it should have

[strong shale]

put your ES on nobisect

[hard grove]

oh

[forest dust]

Do i need to wait after updating?

[bleak gazelle]

sometimes

[hard grove]

does the second link ES talent give the minor?

[strong shale]

yeah prob

[hard grove]

i have second link to nobi

[forest dust]

I'm so tired I may just put my bubo to push instead of farm a material

[strong shale]

yea do it

put cranium cooking on your bar

and just leave it overnight

[hard grove]

so basically what next for the ability to kruk

[strong shale]

still not updating

[forest dust]

alright I will

[strong shale]

stamps, get them from vendors or quests

[forest dust]

goodnight

[hard grove]

ok after stamps

[strong shale]

do your due diligence

then get back to me so i know ur dedicated

[hard grove]

what does that mean

[strong shale]

it means go back and do your fair share

[hard grove]

oh

[strong shale]

we all had to get stamps and stuff

some of us still do

[hard grove]

dont even fucking mention the baby boa stamp

im working on getting the 1m kills from them

[bright meteor]

I'm missing w6 and arcade stamps I think

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/qiwvMUC.png

oh i can prob do the luk stamp

[forest dust]

Oh by the way do I need to click on cranium cooking before I go off idleon for it to work or?

[strong shale]

sussy gene can suck me

[hard grove]

can anyone help me with the ratings quest for cattleprod?

[strong shale]

itll auto turn it on @forest dust

[strong shale]

i can do S

[forest dust]

ah that's quite convient

Goodnight!

[hard grove]

what world

im in key 12

w2 town

[strong shale]

omw

[hard grove]

i dont see it

nvm autolooted

wheres mutton again?

[strong shale]

aint he the mining one?

yea

just at the iron ore

[hard grove]

FUCK ive trashed ALL of my mystery stone 1's

[strong shale]

yea thats a stamp req

[bleak gazelle]

it do be like that

second one is for a stamp, too

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/nzh7jQ7.png

[hard grove]

and my stuff for the beatboxing starterpack quest

its fine i can just baby boa my cares away

[strong shale]

been hoarding since acc level 250

[hard grove]

what acc level are you know

[strong shale]

hf with alch stamps from w2 crystals

3777

[hard grove]

GODDAMN

where does one get white headband?

[strong shale]

yea average level of like 350ish cuz my bb is under 300

you craft it i believe, or green frogs

[hard grove]

oh its just rare 1

[strong shale]

green frogs is green headband, maybe its from the store

oh nvm its just rare drop table

[hard grove]

ig gmush

[strong shale]

oh you want an annoying grind? all those spore tees and green headbands for the iven space

and the mimic/mammoth bag drops

[hard grove]

actually red mush

just ES them

[strong shale]

just

[hard grove]

ooh baba yaga

yeah

FUCK my wormhole talent is ero

[strong shale]

LOLOL

[hard grove]

how many points should i put in?

[strong shale]

max

[hard grove]

57 is good bc i fucked up on chainbolt

nvm

[strong shale]

you kill me 🤣

[hard grove]

nuh uh

[bleak gazelle]

if you're back to farming low stuff then max is fine

[hard grove]

oh yeah im farming w1-3 rn

[strong shale]

ES or DK for kruk keys?

or just use bubo?

[hard grove]

for the vman quest

[strong shale]

vman gives damage

[hard grove]

yeah my only guy at miner moles is ES

i should prob get my DK out of the mines and to Miner moles

[strong shale]

i wish u got more keys back when doing chaotic/nightmare

[hard grove]

yeah its a scam

[strong shale]

like 2/5 or 3/10

esp with the colo ticket nerf

[hard grove]

dr d card is OP af

mine is only bronze bc despite grinding him for got ZERO FUCKING CARDSand only gotone due to egg capsules

while im at rmush i might aswell get orion done

i need 15x meteor damage for me to twoshot moles

[strong shale]

jesus

[hard grove]

thats what dealing 450m damage from a meteor with 30m sheet damage means

[bleak gazelle]

what's your crit%?

[hard grove]

wait true

like crit chance or damage?

[bleak gazelle]

chance

[hard grove]

23.5% chance 1.45x damage

24.1% now

i love how at a certain point you just dont need a skilling build bc you just have enough points to max it all out booked and all

[hard grove]

24.1

is that good or what

wait farsight exists

[strong shale]

yea

[hard grove]

free 12%

if i reset my skilltree again

why did you want to know ace?

[bleak gazelle]

because crits and easy way to increase damage

and kind of how ES is able to do kruk with lower sheet damage

[hard grove]

what should it be at for kruk

istg if mutton items are rare drops im going to lose my fucking mind

oh good they arent

[bleak gazelle]

idk, i'd at least 33 is a minimum, 50-60 is better, and any more than that is preferred

[hard grove]

i need 205,300 corp subs?

what gives crit chance?

[strong shale]

dw you need 1m at one point

[bleak gazelle]

just make sure to not turn in that last one on your ES, sinc eyou want to be able to farm them on him

[hard grove]

yeah no its only 205,300 total

[hard grove]

so how do i get the stamps from it?

[bleak gazelle]

turn it in on your vman

or anyone else

[hard grove]

so i have to grind it all out on anyone else?

ehh its fine

[strong shale]

you have 2 ES, its fine

[bleak gazelle]

no, grind it on ES but turn it in on vman. you can just grab the mats from your bank

[icy stone]

bruh getting the kruk wings r killing me

[strong shale]

how do u farm ur keys

[icy stone]

I got alot from cranium cooking wurms

[strong shale]

o

[hard grove]

im going to have 2 ES

[buoyant olive]

couple questions, Just made it to Kattle farming a key is this enough damage 39m - 76m DK? Also I can unlock my 9th character now im debating on making Mastro or SB/BB.

[icy stone]

u shud do 2 es 2 dk and 2 sb (the sb is kinda debatable people say diff things it rlly depends on the new classes)

[bleak gazelle]

If you don't have a maestro i would definitely make one

[hard grove]

yeah i have 2 sb and am going to have 2es and 2dk

[icy stone]

yeah fr get a maestro vman is so strong for support

[buoyant olive]

just kept reading of people saying they wish they would have waited to make so i was a bit nervous to make one

[bleak gazelle]

And yes, that should be plenty of damage on your DK assuming your talents are good (honestly might fine even with subpar talents)

[strong shale]

if ur gonna have 2 ES ur fine

[bleak gazelle]

idk, with how character slot level requirements got changed, I'd say it kind of cemented maestro into 7th slot

[hard grove]

ill just attempt kruk in a week

[buoyant olive]

Knightly Disciple is 171, shockwave 168

[hard grove]

if that fails ill do it in another week after that

[bleak gazelle]

there's really only like one w5 task which makes it "rough" and even then you need to do it regardless so

[icy stone]

yeah thats good

I beat it with 30m max on my es

[buoyant olive]

Ok ill get this key an make him

[bleak gazelle]

[hard grove]

i should get overaccurate crits right?

sorry megacrit

[nova lynx]

just in time.

[bleak gazelle]

eh, only if you're close to 100% crit

[bleak gazelle]

i'll give it 10 business days

[hard grove]

oh i was saying for the chance itself

do yall think thats enough kernals?

[bleak gazelle]

eh, it doesn't scale that well for %, 5 points is only 1%

[hard grove]

i have 200 unspent star talent points

got two mutton stamps

3 sorry

[bleak gazelle]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=crit chance
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=critical chance

Oh, i apparently unlocked this

oh bb, i can finally get some logs to roll for vial

[hard grove]

gn i have some shit to do tommorow in the meantime mor diamond skulls

[bleak gazelle]

this is actually quite impressive

[hard grove]

nice

SHIT ive been on the medium resources card set for this whole FUCKING time

[bleak gazelle]

rip, sounds like my bubo being in combat set while in lab

[hard grove]

fuck it we ball i still need skinny 0 cal so if my game crashes

so be it

[strong shale]

LMFAOOOO

[hard grove]

im overnighting with autoloot btw

[strong shale]

just filter

[hard grove]

to get diamond skull

[hard grove]

i need skinny 0 cal

[strong shale]

itll be quicker later

with prints

[hard grove]

u right

dont cloudsound followers just stack infinitly?

fuck i hope so

[bleak gazelle]

up to 999999 per stack

[hard grove]

they just drop from every mob

ok ty

[upper mulch]

are teh sailor bonuses only applied to them or shared?

[bleak gazelle]

captain bonuses are individual to their boat and their chests

except for the hidden bonus of ender captains

[upper mulch]

i see thanks

[hard grove]

whats an ender captain?

[upper mulch]

i thinks its the genie one

[bleak gazelle]

nah, it's the fancy one with the cape unlocked in W6

[icy stone]

look at the portal lmao

[upper mulch]

oh

[bleak gazelle]

dang yo, rolled both vials, too, and have 7 attempts left

[upper mulch]

when can we find the one piece in sailing

[bleak gazelle]

maybe when the series ends

[hard grove]

what did the old"too hot" message in w5 look like when trying to use candy? i never got to see it

[bleak gazelle]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[hard grove]

oh ty

the too disrespectful message in w6 is bs

how tf does the wiki know what the mothers maiden names of npcs are

[bleak gazelle]

wow, i'm dumb, didn't even think of checking about other meals i'm missing after unlocking two spices

[icy stone]

there is literally no way alch is making me do worship rn

[hard grove]

do you stop getting stamps and recipes once youve gotten them?

and do they disappear from the card screen once you get them

[bleak gazelle]

once you turn them in/use them, if they're from mob drops

if you only collect them, they'll still drop

[hard grove]

bc if so then i got mr. brightside recipe

also why would i want levels in skill stamps for kruk? is there something that gives damage for stamp levels? (other than stamp mastery from rift)

[icy stone]

yes

[hard grove]

wdym yes

[icy stone]

theres alot of base dmg, dmg %, base stat, stat % ect... stamps

almost every combat stamp is ganna boost you in some way that will lead to more dmg

[hard grove]

yeah but skilling stamps dont affect those

and someone else said i should go for 2k skilling stamp lvld

for kruk

[icy stone]

alot of skilling stamps help with the respective skills and each skill gives damage

[bleak gazelle]

nothing directly damage related, but skilling affects sampling, skill mastery, alchemy, etc, which all affect damage

[icy stone]

its kinda like sometjing to prep you for w6 so you dont get stuck

[hard grove]

oh

alr igtg

[icy stone]

@bleak gazelle have u gotten past dog map

[bleak gazelle]

lawl no, literally just that one character got to it

[icy stone]

o

[bleak gazelle]

just unlocked 5 new meals

[icy stone]

I dont understand how people reached final w6 map in like 2 weeks

[bleak gazelle]

because they were already in the T damage range and got super boosted to Q/QQ with w6 buffs?

[icy stone]

true

at the rate this is going ill hopefully be done with this map by the end of july

[bleak gazelle]

bless

[strong shale]

omg

good comms

[hard grove]

dw about my w6 im going to just grindout skills and all the other stuff from w1-5 that i missed once i get there and only progress once i get a better setup on all my chars

[icy stone]

ww

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, that's a nice boost

[hard grove]

does bonejoe affect cards?

[bleak gazelle]

bonejoe is only miniboss hp and deathnote kills

[hard grove]

oh yeah deathnote i forgor

[strong shale]

3 new meals

pancakes are so expensive in ladles

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, they were. think I spent like 50 to get the recipe

my precious ladles

[strong shale]

i have like a 7 day wait

and thats like 60 ladles

https://i.imgur.com/s6ZDQI4.png

60 ladles was actually 4 days

[icy stone]

I love ladles

[strong shale]

never lucky

[bleak gazelle]

i just want to be done with this damned equinox cloud

[strong shale]

whats your cooking speed on kitchen 1? @bleak gazelle

[strong shale]

difference https://i.imgur.com/plnmZAO.png

[bleak gazelle]

you got alch/converters on your first spices?

[strong shale]

nah not yet

[solar seal]

i can make a scarf!

[bleak gazelle]

definitely picks up once you get those unlocked

well, looks like it's time to eclipse w1

except those damned wood mush

aww yiss

wait, i think i'm off by a power of ten

[solar seal]

just throw all 10 at it :3

[bleak gazelle]

that requires me swapping to arctis, i'll pass

oh, that was also without chips

man, why is DK so much worse

think that's only 3 damage tier diff

but with chips

alright, that's a bit better on SB

ok, well, between the two of them that's 30 hours, not bad

probably just park them there for tomorrow since i won't be on much

[echo gulch]

Guys any tip on how to try to quickly gain skulls in the rift mission where we need to gain skulls

[bleak gazelle]

SB auto is the easiest

bubo/es are possible too, but best to keep them to either just top or bottom levels

otherwise, just kill mobs, get skull, kill skull mob and pray for rng

make sure you don't kill the last skull if there are no other mobs for it to jump to

[bleak gazelle]

oh, duh, SB has Nobi, that's partially why kills are so much higher

[echo gulch]

Whhy this tjo

[bleak gazelle]

Skull needs to jump in order to upgrade

If theres nothing to jump to then you lose it

[echo gulch]

Ah

[dire merlin]

Guys should I go full diabolical gear or troll?

[strong shale]

troll

builds into better gear

[wanton obsidian]

That's such a waste of black salts ngl

[dire merlin]

Ok so troll Armour and diabolical weapons?

[dire merlin]

Why?

Troll is good

[wanton obsidian]

Think about it

I mean diabolical armour is a waste

[dire merlin]

Oh ok

[wanton obsidian]

Why craft it when that's the last stage to that armour

You'll eventually need to craft troll either way

[dire merlin]

Ye for kattlekruk Armour

[wanton obsidian]

Not just kattlekruk, it's the recipe to more armour afterwards

[dire merlin]

Oh

Nice

Damn i have so much gear to get:(

For all my chars I need at least lustre

[wanton obsidian]

Take it slow you'll be alright

[dire merlin]

And then I need starfish tools too:(

Starfire*

[dire merlin]

Ye ima do that

[wanton obsidian]

No point just get them to troll

[dire merlin]

Oh so all troll?

No Lustre?

[wanton obsidian]

Did you not get anything from what I said just now?

[dire merlin]

Eh I thought Lustre was better for now till I get troll

[wanton obsidian]

If you craft an armour you're going to eventually throw out, why craft it in the first place?

Unless it's cheap to make then sure

[dire merlin]

Hmmm oh u got a Point ok

[wanton obsidian]

But green salts are needed to get more black salts

[dire merlin]

All chars grinding tr9ll now:)

[wanton obsidian]

Oh no I'm wrong U don't need green salts for lustre

But the lustre pants are still annoying to get

[wanton obsidian]

Do U have enough black salts?

Maybe get everyone to omni divinity

[dire merlin]

Nah not near enough

[wanton obsidian]

I suggest making 4 sets of troll armour

1 for each stat

[dire merlin]

Ok

[wanton obsidian]

Wis, Agi, Str, Luck

Just so U can swap it around

[dire merlin]

Ye

[wanton obsidian]

I doubt you'll get 10 troll sets anytime soon anyways

What lvl is ur refinery?

[dire merlin]

Wait a sec

So red salts-9
Orange salts-6
Blue salts-5
Green salts-4
Purple salts-2
Back salts-1

[wanton obsidian]

Oh yikes

[dire merlin]

I know I suck here

That's why my dk is trash af

[wanton obsidian]

Have you unlocked the omni divinity?

[dire merlin]

Tf is that?

Some type of title or sum?

[wanton obsidian]

Omni god

[dire merlin]

Ohhhhhhh

No I'm unlocking bunny now

I ain't even close

[wanton obsidian]

Ahh alrightt

[dire merlin]

I'm not that far into w5

Just got to stiltmole

5th map

[wanton obsidian]

Idk how others did it but I was on chizoar/void/dementia gear before I got troll armour

[dire merlin]

Ye I'm on void now too

[wanton obsidian]

If you're lacking on dmg/accuracy/defence alchemy is the key

[dire merlin]

Nah I'm good for now maybe when I progress 2 more maps ima need some accuracy but now I'm good

[wanton obsidian]

Getting better armour helps for sure but it's only a fraction compared to alchemy

[dire merlin]

Yo is 9.97 mil mining eff good for starfire mining?

[wanton obsidian]

I'm not sure tbh

[dire merlin]

Bruh 99%mining chance:(

[wanton obsidian]

Can I see ur ie

[dire merlin]

I need that 100%

[wanton obsidian]

Idk if I asked before lol

[dire merlin]

Yes for sure

Wait a sec though

https://karma_rom7n.idleonefficiency.com/

Here

[wanton obsidian]

Were you the guy that I helped with their alchemy before?

[dire merlin]

Nah people tell me I'm ok on alchemy

I never even asked about alchemy ever

For me it's kinda simple tbh

I mean actually...

It could be

My memory is trash anyway

[wanton obsidian]

Have you resampled lately?

[dire merlin]

Just on bubo bb and sb

Other ones I'm too lazy

[wanton obsidian]

I remember individually screenshoting the important bubbles for skilling

[dire merlin]

Oh no don't think so

[winter trout]

Low stamps
Your worship needs a lot of love
Trapping too
Get everyone iron tools

[dire merlin]

Ok just got 15 scales for troll armour

[wanton obsidian]

I think you should remove the green caps from your 3D printer

[dire merlin]

Yup I know just too lazy for them

[winter trout]

You are making trol armour?

[wanton obsidian]

Keep the high print ones

[dire merlin]

Yup

If we don't count the first 3 chars I pretty trash in 3d samples

[wanton obsidian]

Idk if it shows in ie but what's your sample rate?

[dire merlin]

It's for anyone other than dk it's 76.9%

And for dk it's 82.2%

Trying to get 90%

On all chars

[wanton obsidian]

Do you have the prayer?

[dire merlin]

Yes

Actually I'm now 83.9%

[wanton obsidian]

Try lvling it up more

[winter trout]

Then the bubble the stamps and the salt lik
Can get you to 90

[wanton obsidian]

Anything for that 90%

[dire merlin]

And for dk it's 89.2%

[wanton obsidian]

That's close

[dire merlin]

I'm so close to 90% on dk

I know I could get some juiced out prints but I'm too lazy

[wanton obsidian]

This should be easy to get up right?

Maybe 2 lvls more

[dire merlin]

Ye

[wanton obsidian]

Or more if you can

[dire merlin]

I could candy it rn

[wanton obsidian]

Use ES

[dire merlin]

Ok

[wanton obsidian]

But that's up to you

These are pretty easy to lvl up too

[dire merlin]

Ye I got 1 void coin though

[winter trout]

There is a yellow bubble too

[wanton obsidian]

Ahh I see

[winter trout]

Do the stample stamp then

[dire merlin]

Kk

I got 84.9% sample rate

[wanton obsidian]

But a few lvls here and there and lvling up the prayer

[dire merlin]

And on dk 90:

[wanton obsidian]

You could definitely get 90% easily

Oh and lvling up your maestro combat lvl will also help with sample rate

Just giving you the easy sources you can work on

Get a little bit of each and you'll get 90%

Resample again then invest everything back into alchemy

[dire merlin]

Ok got 86.5%smaller rate

Sample*

On dk 90%

I'm getting close

[wanton obsidian]

Btw you should lvl this up until it reaches 1.8 or 1.75

[winter trout]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Main_Page
For every sample size buff

[dire merlin]

I got like 88.6% for now

[wanton obsidian]

That's literally equivalent to someone asking for help and you send them the link to play the game

[wanton obsidian]

That's close

[winter trout]

I just sended it if he wants to see every buff

[wanton obsidian]

So what is he supposed to search up? 'sample rate' ?

It's useless if you don't know which sources give what

[winter trout]

Wait why did it send the main page

F let me fix it

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/3D_Printer

[wanton obsidian]

Ok way better

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=Sample

This also works

[winter trout]

I always forget insight exists

[dire merlin]

89.6%

Just 0.4% more

[wanton obsidian]

You could lvl up your Maestro

That's pretty easy to get up

[dire merlin]

Ye

[wanton obsidian]

But hey congrats getting your sample rate up

[dire merlin]

Ye in a span of 15 minutes I got from 76% to 89%

Wow

This helped a lot

Thx guys

Now im trying to understand why all other chars got 89.6% but just my sb got 87.2%?

[wanton obsidian]

It's probably because you didn't max out the sample from your special talent

[dire merlin]

Ohhhhh

Righttttt

Btw how are u guys doing whit the owl

I think I mkinda lacking but I don't know what to do I'm only on my 2 megafeather

Close to my third

[junior dune]

It will get faster. The odd mega feathers improve feather gain. I'm at MF20

[dire merlin]

Dayummk

I mean I just got my third mega feather but still

[wanton obsidian]

Mine rn

[dire merlin]

DAYUMMM

[wanton obsidian]

Close to mf 21 just a few more hrs ig

[dire merlin]

Bruh just got my third Mf

[wanton obsidian]

It's really slow at first

But when I got the white feather I got like 6 mf in 2 hrs

Then it slows down again

[dire merlin]

Man this is soo slowww

[wanton obsidian]

1-2 days should get you to the last mf tho

[zinc torrent]

mf7 makes it fast till mf15

[dire merlin]

What does mf 7 do?

[zinc torrent]

x3 changed to x5 per reset

[dire merlin]

DAYUMM

Op asf

Did u guys gem till mf 7 though?

[zinc torrent]

no we f2p

[wanton obsidian]

Gem?

[zinc torrent]

gemshop feather

[wanton obsidian]

That's not even worth it

[dire merlin]

U can spend 242 gems for 1h proggres for owl

[wanton obsidian]

You have 24 hours in a day

[zinc torrent]

worst use of gem ever

[dire merlin]

Lol fr

[wanton obsidian]

That's like 5k gems for 1 day

If you think about it

[zinc torrent]

30 if ur high

[dire merlin]

No max can buy 7

[wanton obsidian]

💀

[dire merlin]

Per day

[wanton obsidian]

That's not my point

I'm just trying to put in perspective how bad it is

[dire merlin]

Oh ye

[wanton obsidian]

You have 24 hours, why spend 240 gems for extra 1 hr

[worldly lagoon]

do you know the trick for taking a print with vman during speedrun?

do a vman speedrun, kill as many bosses as possible (don't worry about portals), should be able to kill at least 2, maybe 3, then before the speedrun ends go to where u want to print the resource and do the big vman aoe ability and while the buff is active take a print, itll be like 100-1000x larger than normal mob drop prints, u can use that to max your mob vials

[rough hemlock]

Yeah.. same here! Android have so less Achievements without Steam, which really sucks and this one is bugged for ages!
Maybe it would be a nice idea, if Lava would fix some Bugs instead of developing new stuff...

[warm token]

should i now be linking all the characters to the bear instead on all characters

[magic tartan]

how does divinity work actually... im kinda confused. I bought an olive branch and have the green snake thing now but I can't see anywhere that tells me what it actually does or anything of the sorts.

and what do you mean by linking? I see no character interface for it

[rigid mango]

Click on the snake

[magic tartan]

it does nothing

[rigid mango]

While u are on the divinity things

[warm token]

try top half

[magic tartan]

ahh I see.

had to be on it

[rigid mango]

Yes

[magic tartan]

so does that link only apply to the current character? if yes can I just link them all?

[rigid mango]

For me yes, lab is better than a little bit of accurancy/ defence

[rigid mango]

Yes, you need to go with all your character one by one to link everybody

[magic tartan]

okay

[warm token]

what about the 30% afk gains does that apply to divinity? or is lab still better

[rigid mango]

Depends on what you want to do

For me lab (For printer) is better because I need a lot of different stuff For powder, greenstack, achievment, ...

But you can do 50/50

[hard grove]

i thought i just got the suggma recipe on maestro until i relized its maccies im grinding

chiz helm aquired

almost

[hardy sentinel]

should i make em gold or get more?

[junior dune]

The tusk should probably become gold has it helps significantly with finding more

[worldly lagoon]

the tusk should be #1 priority

[fallow aurora]

finally completed the achievement

[bright meteor]

Get dmg and money too actually

[hard grove]

can anyone help with the cattleprod quest?

I need a P name

[mighty hinge]

do golden hampters give afk gains when i claim candy

[worldly lagoon]

do not think so

[mighty hinge]

ty

[sharp glacier]

So I finally unlocked the atom collider

But my samples are nowhere good enough to support it

Like all my best samples for like copper or logs are stuck at just around 100-200k

How do people juice that out to millions? Cuz I can't think of any such big thing that would increase my samples by that much

[proud pumice]

a lot of everything

progress all your skills as possible and follow here for stamps and bubbles https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ (also follow for other stuff, but skill efficiency is mainly from stamps and bubbles)

[worldly lagoon]

just focus on bubbles and other skill buffs that up your wis/str and anything involving skill efficiency or specific buffs for chopping/mining, and make sure when u take chopping samples to use the active skill for chopping

[forest dust]

Auto reviewer freezes before I can even use it and I don't know how to fix it 🥲

[sharp glacier]

Hmmm okay thanks for the help!

[worldly lagoon]

close the page completely, restart ur browser, then re-open it on a new tab

[sharp glacier]

But the way what would be the first easiest resource to atom?

Logs or copper ore

Or something else

[proud pumice]

some common solutions are refresh page or clear cache or restart whole pc

[forest dust]

I've tried that and I'm on mobile

I'll try clear cache

[proud pumice]

logs are the easiest to get to higher samples because of the skill logs on logs

[sharp glacier]

Hmm okay

Also are the atom bonuses even useful early on?

[proud pumice]

some of them are good yes

but i'd do vials before focusing on atoms

[forest dust]

It froze again

Refreshing page doesn't refresh it at all just stops

[proud pumice]

hm maybe its not good on mobile, idk

[forest dust]

Damn it was working the first time I should've screenshotted

[proud pumice]

if you post here maybe scoli can help https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[zinc torrent]

hydrogen's -20% stamp discount daily

[worldly lagoon]

-30% if u max it :D

[forest dust]

Who has the pole arm stamp?

[worldly lagoon]

oh i can prolly level this again

[forest dust]

*how do you get it

[hard grove]

papua piggy in giga frogs

[forest dust]

Where can I get these stamps

[worldly lagoon]

gigafrogs quest

[forest dust]

Thank you

[hard grove]

vitality comes from theshop in wode boards map

scimitar comes from theminer pig at iron ores

[worldly lagoon]

stamp from the gold/iron area in mines quests

vitality stamp is from w1 vendor

[forest dust]

What's W1 vendor?

[worldly lagoon]

the tiki guy outside amaroks door

he sells the stamp

[forest dust]

Thank you

[bright meteor]

Best score

@hard grove I see you in chat 24/7

[hard grove]

yeah you do

bc i have a horrible sleep schedule

[forest dust]

Where do I get this item?

Red blob

[lethal aspen]

w5 worship

[forest dust]

Damn

Haven't even done w3 worship yet

I should probably do my worships

[bright meteor]

do you sleep 2h

[forest dust]

Is there any specific way to get high waves on w3

[hard grove]

Nah but I sleep around 6 hours

[wanton obsidian]

Depends how old U are

[bright meteor]

Not really

[zinc torrent]

w3-4chat pins

[paper sail]

You can find the material item's name and its source by looking up that Stamp on the wiki https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Intellectostampo

[forest dust]

Thank you!

[forest dust]

Thank you! I figured out my own strategy for it already since boulders are so good

[nova lynx]

Finally got multikill at citringes on my bubo but MK doesn't effect CC at all right?

[bright meteor]

Nop

[nova lynx]

rippers. oh well

might be time to slowly make bubo's way to wurms

[nova lynx]

Finally EverGreen is mine. Time to fight for a year for Chem plants

[shadow drift]

I am in the middle of World 5 and still dont have anvil tab 4, I gain almost no souls for the anvil upgrade, any advices?

[magic tartan]

im not there yet but my best guess would be to simply grind more 🙂

[shadow drift]

I even have 2 elemental sorcerers but it still takes a long time, maybe I am too bad at the tower defence, I can't reach a higher lv than 49, for the w3 totem

[echo gulch]

finally atleast i am progressing on breeding

about to complete w1 pets was hardstuck on wood planks for like literally half a month

[lofty hedge]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[mighty hinge]

does the purrmep link bonus affect TranQi style?

[upbeat stratus]

why does the kraken keep pushing the enemy’s to my base

[short sparrow]

Finally got the 5x mf, that should make the next ones a little easier hopefully

[icy stone]

bruh ive gotten every chip except for choco

this game is actually against me

[wheat berry]

Someday we'll get choco chip

[vocal stump]

4 more months I believe until next choco chip

[hexed lark]

Why does my exp multiplier for divinity say 81x multi but I only get 100 xp per hour on vitality? Shouldn’t it be closer to 570/hr??? The quick maths don’t add up, I dont even know if the purr god double divinity exp bonus is applying

[hexed lark]

Cringe

[bleak gazelle]

the multiplier takes into account your worship style, for w/e reason

if you change back to the first one you'll get your "actual" multiplier

[hexed lark]

Oh shit thank you

[strong sand]

is the kitsune roxie active if its smiling or sleeping?

[bleak gazelle]

smiling

[strong sand]

THANKS

caps lock sorry

[fervent gate]

is there like any way i can like get more keys without killing the monsters?

[bleak gazelle]

w4 colo, w4 miniboss

[strong shale]

Colo, miniboss at purp mush

[bleak gazelle]

can you get keys directly from po box? can't remember

[strong shale]

Idts

[bright meteor]

only w1 w2 keys I think not sure

[bleak gazelle]

[icy stone]

guys I just realized theres a second page of forge upgrades

no wonder my godshard was taking so long

[bleak gazelle]

🎉

[icy pulsar]

wait till you realise there’s a 3rd page too

[solar seal]

surprised you didn't already have that maxed

[untold lintel]

cant let him figure out about the 4th page

[bleak gazelle]

but...there's not he said the upgrades, not slots

[icy stone]

I just found that actually, the fourth page is wild 10x multi forge speed is crazy

[bleak gazelle]

I haven't gone back and farmed for w1 g.food/hotdogs

[untold lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[icy stone]

yeah im actually so dumb

bless you auto review bless you

[icy stone]

gstack inc?

[bleak gazelle]

later, once i get gfood onto beanstalk

ooh, pretty close to 100

[solar seal]

then you can go finish w3 onyx grind

[bleak gazelle]

no thanks

[icy stone]

think abt the worship power

[solar seal]

i haven't even started one of them yet 💀

[bleak gazelle]

i already fucked up and did box traps without picking up yondergreen's quest

i have no desire to step foot into w3 again

[solar seal]

scoli said its not gs-able at current levels

[bleak gazelle]

though with the DR gains i've gotten recently, the next two shouldn't be that bad

yeah, but I still have to complete the quests regardless

[icy stone]

I actually should prolly work on my construction statue

[teal inlet]

first max vial

[strong nexus]

day 2 of waithing for a 5m afk time rift (this is boring event whit all my character in\

[simple wadi]

Get used to it because rifts 49 - 60 are all that challenge.

[strong nexus]

im at 35

whit 10 character it take me 8h but i need to do something else while waithing and that the boring part

the hard rift presently are dk orb and kill all mob before they respawn

49-60 is purely afk nothing else? then im not worry

[icy stone]

yea its just 5m kills

[strong nexus]

great sure its the most boring one but its the most easy one too

[icy stone]

killing the bosses is prolly the easiest and less time consuming

[strong nexus]

killing the boss force me to transfer my pheonix wing and cold prince title betwen my character

[icy stone]

do more alch

[strong nexus]

but i have so many no bubble left behind bonus

[icy stone]

have you been relying on nblb to lvl ur bubbles?

[strong nexus]

the owl systeme got me a gian boost now im waithing to see how much more i will get from the kangouroo

yes and no but i not focusing on alchemy intensly

if i can affort a bonus i get it otherwise nblb do the job

also my water gain is still kinda slow

[icy stone]

work on cranium cooking

[strong nexus]

idk hoiw to use that properly the cooldown is so big

[icy stone]

is ur thing lvl 200

[strong nexus]

my max library is 160 so nope

[icy stone]

whats ur overflow

[strong nexus]

overflow?

[icy stone]

like your max library is 160

but you can lvl it past that

[strong nexus]

how

[icy stone]

wait

hover over like ur sharpened axer and send me a screen shot

[icy stone]

yeah it goes 15 lvls over

also if your max lvl is 160 you should def try get that up

[strong nexus]

im not event sure what make library max up

[icy stone]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=Book

ignore checkout speed rn

wait does any1 have that screenshot of the breakdown

[strong nexus]

a no find it i find where to get more max level i need to unlock The Oxygen - Library Booker on the colider

[strong nexus]

299 max that great

i need atom and sailing(just unlocked eldritch artefact yesterday

ho and sumoning

[icy stone]

thx

[noble hound]

Snail is the most mind numbingly attrocious mechanic in the game....15% to chance to get reset has hit fuckin 6 times in a row now.

[strong nexus]

sound like a fun systeme ^_^

[noble hound]

If by fun you mean I'm borderline calling it quits on it all together....then yes it's exhilirating lmao

[strong nexus]

idk im not there yet i just unlock poing and im bad at it

[noble hound]

It's a huge boost to gaming. But it's a really annoying system. you'll see lol

[junior dune]

Well there's an achievement for being bad at it at least

[icy stone]

I thought you could use wasd and lost like a few times

pretty embarassing moment

[junior dune]

Why can't you use wasd though...

It makes no sense

[icy stone]

yeah idk

my score could be so much higher

[zinc torrent]

do u know why is it decreasing?

[strong nexus]

got that one first try

[junior dune]

Breedability I think

[strong nexus]

using awsd as arrow make no sens a keyboard was conceive so you use you right hand whit the arrow then you left hand to type any other key you need for the game

inverthing hand put you in a weird position of playing

[junior dune]

But you have the mouse in the other hand... And still want to reach other keys with your movement hand

[strong nexus]

idk for you my mouse in on the right hand meaning if i have to use the mouse and keyboard its still work fine but if you use only the keyboard to play awsd make 0 sens

also i dont know many game that make you use wasd+mouse

most of the time if the mouse is involve you use the mouse to move not the keyboard

[untold saffron]

Hey now, you be enjoying the time you have with 15% success rolls. It's all downhill from here

[fallen knoll]

How to cancel sailing???

[zinc torrent]

return boat

[fallen knoll]

Nvm just found it ty

[paper sail]

Every action MMO and every Shooter game would like some words with you

[austere notch]

I actually can't think of a single game outside of flash games that uses arrow keys to move lmao. Maybe /some/ sim games where you move the camera that way but even that is uncommon

[paper sail]

Serena out here only playing text-based adventures

[austere notch]

Even old muds and ASCII RPGs let you use wasd usually 😭

[paper sail]

Though I guess those don't typically let you move with arrow keys either 🤔 Just trying to think of the last game I played that actually made me use arrow keys.. It's been decades

[austere notch]

Like. Fancy pants adventure maybe lmao

[haughty hull]

What are your artifact find chance trying to get the 4th tier but my odds are 0.01

[paper sail]

That's pretty standard. You just have to open thousands of chests 😦

[haughty hull]

I was hoping you weren't gonna say that

Also thank you for your service on the auto review 🙏

[paper sail]

Higher tier artifact chances are divided by 100, 10,000 and 1,000,000. Odds get pretty miserable

[strong shale]

We love scoli here

[strong nexus]

shooter was not created to play whit awsd it was the arrow key combined to the space tou8ch to shoot and open door and 1-9 to switch weapon but that was a time went real gamer exist not boring auto aim systeme that baby use now a day

[strong nexus]

moving whit the keyboard is a thing of the past now you move whit or the mouse or a controler its bad desing to make you move whit the keyboard

[paper sail]

That's a hot take 🍿

[strong nexus]

i play every style of game that came out since the early 90 stop assuming

[paper sail]

You must not, if you "don't know many" that used WASD and a mouse together

[austere notch]

Literally every first person game I've ever played in my life past original DOS doom uses wasd and mouse

[strong nexus]

its not because i haven play all the most recent iteration of the game i play as a child where they badly desing them using awsd actually those game arent desing for you to awsd they desing to be play whit a controler they only offer you the option to wasd but its still a bad positionement desing

[austere notch]

How tf do you move the camera if your mouse is what moves your character

Actually now that I think about it how do you even move your character in a three dimensional plane properly with a mouse

[paper sail]

World of Warcraft was not designed to be played with a controller.

[strong nexus]

there a gian diference betwen the original doom and the most recent one or rise of the trial

triad

[austere notch]

Yes, the most recent games use wasd and mouse

[strong nexus]

world oif warcraft was desing to be play whit a mouse

also world of warcraft is bad warcraft was good in is rts format but crash into a wall as a rpg

[austere notch]

Even the original deus ex used wasd and mouse

[paper sail]

Too hot of takes for me, I'm out lol

[strong nexus]

most recent game use awsd but its still a bad desing it will hurt your hand if there where a full keyboard experience

[austere notch]

90% of people get carpel tunnel from the mouse not the keyboard so that ones objectively incorrect

[strong nexus]

game offering wasd arent made to play whit the keyboard in the first place

[austere notch]

Name literally one

[strong nexus]

im not talking about carpel tunel that not where the tension on your hand is positioned went you have a bad hand position on your keyboard

[austere notch]

If you have bad hand position then literally anything will make it hurt

I play p much exclusively computer games that use wasd and have never had this issue

[strong nexus]

name what a game whit wasd that isnt made to play whit the keyboard i mostly play game that only require the mouse now a day

but the wasd systeme come from people who spend there life gaming on consol and coulnd understand using a keyboard since the cross on controler is on the left

[austere notch]

Yeah name a game that would be better if you /just/ used a mouse for it

[strong nexus]

that how wasd start but those game is made whit controler in mind not keyboard

idleon is better if you only use mouse on it

[austere notch]

No, they're not. Every first person and p much all third person shooters is made with keyboard and mouse in mind. That's why the hardest difficulties revolve around that setup in terms of balance

[strong nexus]

ho wait idleon dont use wasd it use arrow key

robin why you play idleon and not shooter

[austere notch]

You're dodging. You were claiming that games meant to be used wasd and mouse would be better if the controls were just mouse mapped. Which ones

Also, I play both? This is literally an idle game?

[noble hound]

Can’t enjoy it when It feels no different than 1% 😂 can’t make it up. Made it to 19 5 times only to get bumped down. Just got knocked from 18 back down. Honestly dont even care anymore

[strong nexus]

you still doing shooter wrong robin learn to use you mouse from the left hand

[austere notch]

But you're still using the keyboard with your right presumably? Which goes against what you were saying

[strong nexus]

if you using wasd how do you switch weapon will still moving

if you mouse in the left you arrow key whit the right

[austere notch]

Number keys, tab for the weapons ring, q or z for previous weapon to switch between two

[strong nexus]

or you can play a shoot arrow key whit 1-9 to switch weapon and whitout hurthing youyr hand stop defending bad desing choice

[austere notch]

If games are intended for controllers or just mouse why is it for shooters that every speedrunner, challenge runner, people who play the games on the hardest difficulties, and 100%s, all use wasd and mouse

[strong nexus]

or play your shooter whit a controler like it desinger to

[worldly lagoon]

play shooters using a guitar hero controller like god intended

[austere notch]

If you're using arrow keys you'd literally have to take your hand off the movement keys to hit half the buttons even if your keyboard has a numpad.

Which not all keyboards do

[strong nexus]

are you d...1-9 from you left hand over the letter key

[austere notch]

Okay then how do you move your camera

[strong nexus]

left hand switch weapon and shoot right and move

[austere notch]

If your left hand is switching weapons on the keyboard, your right hand is on the arrow keys to move, how are you moving the camera

Or shooting

[strong nexus]

whit letter key

z x cv

space to shoot

[austere notch]

So in this hypothetical there's no omnidirectional aiming, no camera acceleration, and apparently no jumping?

It's like you're trying to argue a rock is better to chop wood than a hatchet

[strong nexus]

all of that was already in old shooter they just have a good configuration of how the keyboard work and not a bad desing made for a controler

[austere notch]

Record yourself using those controls to play doom eternal on nightmare difficulty

Show the world how much better it is

[outer saffron]

at what damage shoudl i try to kill ckruk

[strong nexus]

im 40 year old kid i cant play doom anymore i dont have the reflex of doom nighmare on earth or rise of triad that why i play casu game whit a bunch of casu player

[austere notch]

People said they managed to swing it at 100m, I did it at 300m comfortably/afk

[outer saffron]

so basically when my crits can oneshot the moles

[austere notch]

More or less yea, they don't get more HP on chaotic or if they do its negligible

[strong nexus]

beat normal kurk on es whit 30m sure it took 1h but i beat it