lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[icy stone]

why not get higher tier obol

[hasty harness]

why kruk?

i was going for dr on everyone

[zinc torrent]

kruk cuz +6% afk

[zinc torrent]

what do u mean higher?
hyper obols, im f2p

[icy stone]

a

[zinc torrent]

i do change kruk obols on fam and personal to dr when im doing active dk

[hard grove]

how many fractals should i go for?

should i do an extra DK or BB? ive heard both

[sacred bison]

DK is good for pushing maps

BB has the cooking talents that help the kitchen alot

[hard grove]

so generally BB?

or gennerally DK?

I alr have 1 of every elite (i have 2 SB)

[zinc torrent]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[hard grove]

ok so DK

[zinc torrent]

hoot mf? depends on u i stopped at 20 farming orions there

[hard grove]

yeah hoot mf

i have only 10 megas total (first fractal)

so 6x rn

[zinc torrent]

20 is 11x

[eternal wasp]

Wisp what level is your Orion at now?

[zinc torrent]

i think it was 27 rn

[hard grove]

in order to get a free guarenteed doot its 4 years from max treat...

but a decent chance to get it before then

[blazing owl]

Is that 4 years just from weekly free treats?

[low skiff]

1 whole week of 11x 24hr sailing claims all with .10% chance and still nothign is kinda bad Im satrign to think my sailing gltiched

[quiet terrace]

Nah thats pretty normal sadly lol, artifacts become a major pain on the final islands

[low skiff]

but i got the fury relic in 2 days with a 0.04 ;-; and now I can't even get a 0.10

[gentle furnace]

all rng

[quiet terrace]

Yep thats just how rng works

[idle oar]

so you got lucky and now you are getting the average luck xd

[short sparrow]

The mf grind continues

Also wow the HP on rift mobs jumped HARD after 41

[blazing owl]

btw, should i go half&half with w5 stones or just full accuracy or full damage?

[zinc torrent]

dont need accuracy go dmg

[ebon helm]

should I keep doing mantra on 8 characters until everyone is 40 div? and how long will that take?

everyone is between 16 and 18 right now

[zinc torrent]

ill go mantra all to 40 all, or u can 6/7 and 1 on vita if u wanna rush 1char to 40

or 50 for multitool stamp

[pearl wagon]

This is driving me nuts, where do I get that resource?

[solar seal]

look at loot req for boat on left. that is the rare treasure of the same island. should be island 3

starting from boat 5: loot req = common treasure of island _, the next boat's speed req = the rare treasure of the same island

you can also look at your loot pile. the common treasures are the first column - the rare treasure is the next column of the same row

[primal girder]

is the summoning level for characters a visual bug? all my characters have different levels / xp for summoning but it states that it is shared?

[echo gulch]

What stamp level is good for mid w5

Currently i am at lvl 3k

And most of them are from skilling

Like 55 percent

[primal girder]

are you f2p player?

[echo gulch]

Yeah

[primal girder]

then idk, im p2p, and my stamp lvl is only 2.3k

[echo gulch]

You ignored them crazy dude

[primal girder]

extremely lazy :D

[echo gulch]

How are your prints?

[primal girder]

not bad / not good

i've got doot and base logs is 9m

[echo gulch]

No doot for me

[primal girder]

i just started talking alch seriously in w6

ill get to stamps eventually

[echo gulch]

Get your stamps up before alchemy

You should be around 4k to 5k now

[primal girder]

yeah, probably. It's just going into inventory loading up, then buying stamps, then doing it again is a chore

[gilded sedge]

That's bad tbh for having doot and being In w6, I'm sure you can do way better

[primal girder]

i'm sure i can, but it's an idle game, so i'll go at my own pace

[gilded sedge]

Fair enough

Have u onyxed statues/gotten lanterns from jade emporium?

[primal girder]

yes to statues, no to jade

my coin production is bad

[gilded sedge]

Sneaking takes a bit of time, I'm guessing you haven't been in w6 for super long so it would make sense

[primal girder]

yeah ive actually been here for a bit, my afk fightings gains are rough so i stopped pushing and started working on pets

https://forcesx.idleonefficiency.com if you're interested

[gilded sedge]

Do ur minibosses

[primal girder]

on it

[gilded sedge]

Also ur missing a bunch of stamps and I think u can get most of em

Most important ones ur missing would be the all stat one and the golden food effect one

[primal girder]

yeah i tried following the autoreview and it wanted me to do one of the pig quests

[gilded sedge]

But also the other ones are good

[primal girder]

and the pig wants me to talk to people with letters and i have no interest

[gilded sedge]

Also try beanstalking golden hampters

They're huge for sailing

[primal girder]

im about 500 away from stalking it

5000*

[gilded sedge]

U can probably get the 100k beanstalk of em without too much effort rn

[primal girder]

if I throw everyone in w5?

[gilded sedge]

Considering u have choco chip and both card doublers

Nah, u just gotta crystal farm with dk

[primal girder]

oh

active is pretty rough

[gilded sedge]

Also 4 star poop card

[gilded sedge]

No autoloot?

[primal girder]

i have auto loot, i pay to play

[gilded sedge]

Oh so u just can't leave ur device on?

[primal girder]

I can leave my PC on, I just don't like to very often

Are mongos the best to farm for the foods?

worms, rather?

[gilded sedge]

Wurms yes I think

Oj Bay is also good, but I think wurms is better

[primal girder]

i still need the OJ bay achievement

so Ill post up there for a hot minute

[gilded sedge]

Also u want to get both family and personal obol tab full dr

[primal girder]

yea im currently only close on personal

oh I can't upload photos

[primal girder]

thanks for your help, im gonna leave my dk active and see what the gains are tomorrow. have a goodnight

[strong shale]

hell yeah https://i.imgur.com/OLNowb9.png

7/8 worked

afking overnight again for the rng drops

[peak verge]

I understand that Bear god makes characters be active in the Lab even if they're not in the lab at the cost of not gaining xp, but what if you actually put them in the lab? Do they still not get xp?

[sinful aurora]

Theyll gain xp as normal if theyre actually in the lab but if you plan on doing that theres no point leaving them on arctis anyway is there?

Switch to harriep or goharut.

[peak verge]

I'm still on snake, trying to work my way through so I'm attempting to pre-plan a bit in terms of pushing / playing catch-up with everyone.

[sinful aurora]

Ah i see. You just unlocked it.

[peak verge]

Yup. Trying to get the 4x kills special before starting zows and chows, while at the same time trying to figure out how to get more lab levels.

[sinful aurora]

If your bubo has both the upgraded lab rings and boots, you can pretty much max all his lab exp and eff talents and let him sort it out. Max book the tranference or whatever it's called that copies his xp to another character. Use the right card setup. Give him snake god. He can level up your entire team if you dont plan using him to fight yet.

Ofc it's a slow process, but if it means you only lose 1 char for an extended period of time instead of 6 for a shorter period, what's worse?

[peak verge]

Sounds good on paper but I'm missing all of those + not enough resources to unlock anvil tab 4.

[sinful aurora]

Time to go back to world 4 then.

[bleak gazelle]

W5 do be prime backtracking time. There's even a pin for it

[peak verge]

Yep, by all means I sorta speedran through W4 a bit too much.

I think I'm feeling the consequences of not being aware that you should build full xp rather than full build in construction the hardest.

[lethal aspen]

let me guess which char u chose

[peak verge]

Truly a conundrum.

[sinful aurora]

So many people arent optimising construction for a long time. It's never too late though.

[peak verge]

I was around lvl 30 when I was told about xp over build... so much time could've been saved.

[lethal aspen]

nah u didnt lose much time lol

just make sure ur dk has enough points to put into construction talents

[peak verge]

He's trying.

[sinful aurora]

30? Wait you mean 300 right?

[peak verge]

30 con level

[sinful aurora]

Thats early af though?

[lethal aspen]

30s about right for where speedrunners go

since they ignore most skills lol

whats your best worship level

[peak verge]

I don't speedrun. I'm just a dumbass.

[lethal aspen]

potato potato

[lethal aspen]

39 is higher then i was expecting

[peak verge]

I need to improve waves but that requires construction for towers...

[peak verge]

Well it's a lot easier of an incentive when you see that a bar is full and it's just being wasted if you don't do anything with it.

[lethal aspen]

at least u check the bar

i dont even remember these days

some peepo equip a slush skull and thier bar will never fill up

[peak verge]

Can you have a look at the TD section here?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/htmlview#

[lethal aspen]

hmm?

[peak verge]

Are some of the tower levels required/recommended a bit overkill for what they're trying to achieve?

[lethal aspen]

idk which one are you looking at in particular?

[sinful aurora]

Doubtful

[lethal aspen]

its quite outdated now anyway

[peak verge]

Most of them.

[lethal aspen]

but u don't have equinox bonuses/void tower to make use of them i bet

[lethal aspen]

no harm in trying anyway with your towers but you probably won't have enough points during td to upgrade/purchase

[peak verge]

Nah, I'm getting poisonic tower in a day or two but then I think I run into the problem of not having salts unlocked.

[sinful aurora]

Hope you didnt autorefine red/green.

[peak verge]

Red on 0, rest on 90% until they needed to go up and I barely unlocked green then instantly turned it off.

I know about red but what's the deal with green?

[lethal aspen]

green and the following one are 4x as slow as red etc

[sinful aurora]

Green is the red of page 2.

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/cod-mw2-cod-mw2ghost-cod-ghost-ghost-stare-stare-gif-27067874

I don't like your tone very much.

[sinful aurora]

How?

[peak verge]

Wait, so keep green on 0 as well? Or let it follow the natural course of life?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/849473649832755231/1244288731704332351/image.png?ex=666cf56f&is=666ba3ef&hm=38f80d417a5351810d99363ec57c2560b800573c6559632cb03d1678c73e205a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1245&height=607

[sinful aurora]

Never autorefine green. Always keep running.

Same as red.

Except 4x slower. Dw you cant run out of blue. Green is too slow.

[peak verge]

How do you even set up the refinery mats? Do you just take a few hours of your day with ES to spam materials every week or so while printing the skilling mats?

[sinful aurora]

Thats an efficient way yes.

[lethal aspen]

just let them get printed normally no

[peak verge]

AFK/multikill/dmg not good enough for a decent sample on frogs, let alone anything further.

[sinful aurora]

Monster mats can be annoying early. ES does really speed it up until you unlock voidwalker.

Plus doing gigafrogs with es will get your your pop obols set

Which youll want at some point anyway.

[peak verge]

My ES is currently doing the gacha special for woodular circles and nugets and golden shits and all that stuff so that everyone can get a weapon up to par. Lord knows he'll soon have to do the same for black lenses but I feel like I should prolly go for an obol set before any of that.

The 1/20k drops are still very inconsistent even with ~110 kills per portal at like... 2x DR or maybe a bit more.

[sinful aurora]

Do you at least have your dice obols? (Farmed with dk)

[lethal aspen]

[sinful aurora]

Yeah prob not. No way he has a chocolate chip yet.

[peak verge]

I have 1 in family and I love it very much and clean it daily.

[sinful aurora]

Thats rough.
Crystal momster spawn rate is probably bad?

Ig it'll be easier to start with pop.

[peak verge]

Actually, I don't know. I sorta got DK and threw him in the lab while rotating for the others, didn't have much of a chance to take him out for a spin.

I know I made a crystal setup for maestro and the odds were sorta decent? Iirc around 1 in 200 or less? Probably better now that I also got the genie card, even if not upgraded.

[sinful aurora]

Yeah thats super bad.

[peak verge]

Listen... I'm not getting that 1/12 or 1/9 chance featured in YT videos any time soon. I gotta work with what I got.

[sinful aurora]

You should eventually use ES to farm gebie and poop cards.

No worry. But if you could at least get like 1/100 thatd be great.

It's not really that difficult. Just some card farming.

[peak verge]

I feel like I can easily make a whole ass list / board of stuff I'm lacking in or that needs catching up with but my main issue is priotizing.

[lethal aspen]

well what are you prioritisng first?

[peak verge]

Nothing.

[hushed crystal]

yolo rank up is better trust

[peak verge]

Some things are clear cut cases. Need more worship -> need more construction -> time gated so ignore for now.

Others... less so.

[lethal aspen]

well even worship, what do you need it for?

[hushed crystal]

Everything

[sinful aurora]

Anvil tab 4.

[spice spire]

weird question, but best map layout for SB active?

[lethal aspen]

more specifically for him though

[sinful aurora]

Not weird. Citringes. Get those plunderous kills.

[hushed crystal]

Any is fine but like anyone denser is better

[lethal aspen]

ifs it tab 4, its doable with time at 11 wave w3td

[spice spire]

any good W6 ones? just finished unlocking all maps

[lethal aspen]

maybe lanterns?

[spice spire]

ahh tahts a good shout actually, could farm the purple ones

[hushed crystal]

I’m stuck at leeks not the person to ask, I think the last one is the best but idk

[lethal aspen]

nah SB wants a flat 1 platform map so ur shot thingy hits everything

[peak verge]

Frost souls for tab 4 (eventually) and the lvl 90 mage weapon. Everything else / below it, to upgrade the sampling prayers.

[spice spire]

ill prob do minichiefs or lanterns

[sinful aurora]

If you want plunderous kills, you get far better returns at citringes. If you want to level him up lanterns is the way to go.

[lethal aspen]

minichiefs aren that good iirc

since the platforms are too high apart

[sinful aurora]

He's only good on single platform maps. Even minichief doesnt cut it for sb.

[spice spire]

[lethal aspen]

better yet don't play sb

[dull ember]

...___...

[sinful aurora]

Plunderous kills. Dr.

[spice spire]

i need drop rate so time to stop ignoring the 1m SB kills

[sinful aurora]

1m is an insane time investment. I dont recommend unless youre an endgamer with not much left to work on.

100k is enough for most people.

Or even just 33k if youre finding it annoyingly slow. It does the job.

However i hope you unlocked the vman enhancement for it, otherwise youre not getting anywhere.

At the stage of the game youre on when asking about it, 33k is enough.

[tepid sail]

Why especially 33k?

[sinful aurora]

It gives 4.5x the listed bonus. If you want 5x you need 100k. It's just a good number to be at.

[junior dune]

Get the citringe vial on active SB and you will be good until endgame

[earnest elbow]

Power of maths!

[sinful aurora]

The power of maths compels you.

[earnest elbow]

Question, how do you peeps' manage your pirates ship?

I'm just zergrushing islands that I don't have relics yet, but I feel like that's unoptimized

[sinful aurora]

It's not a bad idea to go back to prior islands sometimes to get mats to improve ships when the cost is low.

Otherwise youll eventually find that the time to go to the next island goes up and you want to stay as close to 2h as you can always.

[earnest elbow]

Aye

[sinful aurora]

Also note that once you get past snow island, the odds to get ancient artifacts on the first 2 islands is better than getting new relics.

[earnest elbow]

so no splitting boats whatsoever ?

[sinful aurora]

Rarely. Sometimes when you want to get mats to improve ships. But if searching for artifacts just rush the island.

[earnest elbow]

Thanks, I was doing it kinda right while thinking I was doing it very wrong

[sinful aurora]

Island 1 has an artifact that improves artifact odds. Improve it to ancient when you can, it makes a difference.

What island are you at now?

[earnest elbow]

Petulent Garage

[sinful aurora]

Oh. Yeah i hope youve been getting early artifacts to ancients by now.

[earnest elbow]

To eldritch most of em'

[sinful aurora]

Oh, perfect then!

[earnest elbow]

The thing is since it's taking me on average 10h to get to the Garage, I was thinkin about goin' back to other island and you know

Plunder some booty to upgrade ship speed

[sinful aurora]

Yup, thats what you should do.

[earnest elbow]

And I got a King Doot on a free pet roll so that accelerate a lot of things

[severe spire]

Does anyone know if this skill:
Gives All Exp? or only Class Exp. Wondering if this works on Divinity

[junior dune]

Almost certainly doesn't work for divinity. Can check if it works with other skills

With skill

Without skill

[earnest elbow]

so no impact on skill exp

[junior dune]

Looks like it's only class XP

[earnest elbow]

Wait 24x ?!

Have you been irresponsible with your liquidvestment again?

[junior dune]

Yeah my grind time bubble sucks

[severe spire]

Thanks ❤️

[earnest elbow]

Does Kill per Kill stat have an impact on Kill per Hour ?

I'd assume yes but just to be sure

[heavy jackal]

UFF! I was at 12

[worldly lagoon]

dude do you know about the atom collider upgrade?

[heavy jackal]

wich one ?

I also have to re-do my prints

[worldly lagoon]

the final atom collider atom gives you "checkpoints" for your snail, giving you a checkpoint for your snail upgrades, 1 atom upgrade = 5 levels, so if you had upgraded the atom to lvl 2 you would have only reset to lvl 10

notice it says "if it fails, 25.6% chance to reset back to lv.25" because my atom is lvl 5+ which prevents it from going below 25 if i reset

[heavy jackal]

I'm like this

[worldly lagoon]

yeah u have to get down to th last one, that bottom one there is the safety for ur snail

so once u get ur snail to lvl 5 again, do not level it past 5 until u unlock that atom, then once u get it to 10 don't level it more til u lvl that atom to 2, stop again at 15 til atom is 3 etc.

here u can read what the atom does specifically

[junior dune]

Only lvl 6 smh

[worldly lagoon]

waste of atoms to go past that, maybe ill upgrade it more down the line when i have no other use of atoms and my neon is 30

[junior dune]

Yeah I just thought it was funny that you got even one useless lvl

[worldly lagoon]

meh, i wanted to see what would happen

[worldly lagoon]

but yeah sorry about your snail reset, at least it wasn't too high, but 12 is a bit rough to restart to 0 from, remember to work on that atom

[junior dune]

Probably like a month

[heavy jackal]

Tks!
I just have to re-do my prints...

[bright meteor]

Time to do w2 tower defense (previous wave 140)

[lost moon]

If I have king doot then i don’t have to link any god, right?

[jade star]

Few days of farming the owl allowed to start W5 without gear preparations 🤔

[echo gulch]

Which stamp level is optimum for mid w5

[echo gulch]

So the farther we try to go the odds increase?

[dire finch]

Hey guys! I'm working on evolving my plants in gaming to lvl 5. Should I have kitsune roxie activated while doing this? Does the plant growth speed affect evolution?

[fervent yew]

no, it means the later artifacts are so rare that you're more likely to find the ancient version of the first ones~

[rigid mango]

can i win colosseum w5 ?

[fervent gate]

How so many damage do little gear

[solar seal]

w5 has up to stiltmoles - 130M HP. you don't want to use your tickets in there until a) you have 200 tenteyecle to auto reset aura after placing down on each of the 4 platforms or b) until you can 1 shot them with poison (the slower method)

i don't think at your sheet damage, your poison will be enough and very likely you don't have 200 tenteyecle so i'd wait - its better to save your colo tickets for now since po6 nerf

[solar seal]

for first t1-t5 evos, don't actively seek them out. you have to do gaming long enough that those should come easily whether you keep kitsune on or off. kitsune is better determined by your playstyle - i.e. how often you can check the game.

[wary nymph]

When connected to elephant god - even if I afk 5mins it still says I progress in X skill by 1h. Is it actually 1h or 5mins that I progressed?

[dense radish]

5 mins

[echo gulch]

.

[dire finch]

Sorry, I meant to say lvl 6. The only 5 I'm missing is the EverGreen tree. Is it still the same to have kitsune on or off? Plant growth speed doesn't affect it's evolutions?

[sly spoke]

could someone give me some advice on what i should do, i just made my 10th character, my 9 previous were 2dk, 2es, 1bm, 1bubo, 1sb, 1bb, 1 beginner, the new 10th character i just made i turned it into a mage by accident thinking i only had 1 es xD so now should i rock 3 es 1 bubo or go 2 es 2 bubo ?

[solar seal]

i'm not gaming expert so answer may have gaps. but if you don't even have full t5s, you are not in position you need to consider getting t6. t6+ should only be a concern when you are getting closer to finishing gaming and last superbits. and others can correct me if i'm wrong, but more cycles -> more chance at evos. so yes, speed doesn't affect odds but like every other low odds chance, more attempt -> better likelihood

[main kettle]

Worth buying?

[solar seal]

+1 slab only, there's enough %dmg in game

[solar seal]

i'd probably say anywhere 4-5k is likely a very good spot if you are in w5

[solar seal]

don't make it either. you pray to god when new elite classes drop (no eta) that the mage one is good and meta defining to want 4 mages. let it be lab slave forever until then

[sly spoke]

well

@solar seal rip to this guy

he lived for 25 minutes xD

[dire finch]

Thanks!

[dire finch]

Actually, I just checked the fertilizer tab, and the growth cycle does change when you have kitsune on. So it should be better keeping it on.

[viral granite]

doesnt look very w5 to me ngl

[sly spoke]

?

to make a 10th character u gotta have account lvl 1500, youre not gonna have that before w5 lol

[jolly talon]

i swear there was a snail upgrade sheet, for best chance to level up with spending the least possible mail... I don't see it in the pinned comments here...

[sinful aurora]

Must have disappeared when they fused w5-6 chats.

[bleak gazelle]

📌 https://imgur.com/rfx0Wvm

[nova lynx]

i know most peeps say w5/w6 colo is pretty clutch for golden foods rn. Thoughts on running it vs. earlier worlds? I think I've cleared w5 colo a few times but I don't have 200 tent and def not gonna 1 shot 130M hp with gas. Still just been piling up tickets for a bit

[solar seal]

i would just wait. both w5/w6 give much better rewards if you are at higher DR (notable ones at 20DR and 40DR from what i've seen anecdotally). personally, i only did w5/w6 once to get the trophy (for +1 slab) and am not touching it again until i get better DR. I'm just letting my tickets stack up until i get to at least 20DR to make it much more worth it per ticket since we are ticket starved now

[solar seal]

are you referring to this?

[nova lynx]

😮 what trophy? The colo quest line trophy? I don't think I'm anywhere close to do that. And my DR is like ~5x rn so I'm nowhere near that lol.

[wanton obsidian]

Tbh if your dr is that low, I don't think you're even far enough in the game to be able to kill the Monsters

[solar seal]

in your case, i wouldn't worry about colo for now. just make sure to collect your tickets and work on rest of account. gfood is easier and quicker to do once you are more progressed

[nova lynx]

I agree that I'm nowhere near anything. I can't really prog w6. But I'm pretty sure I clear w5 colo somewhat decently, and w4 colo isn't too shabby on egg/ladle drop. But I' mdef not gonna burn my ~200 colo tix on w4 lol

[solar seal]

pre-po6, i would say running w4 colo was fine - i no longer think it is. you are better off saving tickets. just means breeding/cooking will depends more on your weekly mmush kills and you'll need to devote a bit more time into farming gmush early to get your money% up, but in the long run, i think this is the new reality

[nova lynx]

Aah that's right. PO6 used to let you farm colo tix right? I'm still not at a silver pen farming place (I don't think, tbh don't know the general strat on that) so I haven't even considered it

[solar seal]

pen farming goes hand in hand with crystal/statue farming once you have choco chip. but you don't want to do that until your DR is minimum 8-10x+

[wanton obsidian]

Btw is it normal that my nblb doesn't trigger sometimes?

[solar seal]

there's big ramping cycle you gotta start - bullfrogs (pop obols + DR card) > other DR card farm > dice obol farm - sets up your base obols for DR

[solar seal]

lab connected? you aren't crazily desynced? just missed graphic (cause its only on screen for a split second)?

[jolly talon]

at what point can I do the active gaming strat? Kitsune is at 202% and everything else is above 100M red bits

[solar seal]

i would ask xayayah in w6 chat. she has much better knowledge re: gaming/timing on this

[nova lynx]

Hmm that's right. I guess I need to do pop obol farming at some point. No real "bad time" to start that, right? I'm finishing my lv250 across the board on all chars today, then was gonna start working on Skill Mastery (at least to total lv 500 or something to get all passives and what not).

[solar seal]

nope. gotta start somewhere.
card passives are at 300, so much earlier. remember to utilize equinox (even if you can't afk there) for fishing to push easily to 30 -> then you can seasalt island if you still want to push.

[nova lynx]

Yeah equinox is OP for fishing 😄

and seasalt island too. I hated fishing early on but it seems like the easiest to level at this point? Maybe behind woodcut

[wanton obsidian]

Maybe desynced? I play on 2 device

[solar seal]

you didn't swap right near your reset did you? if your reset popped on 1 device, then you swapped the 2nd - you may not have seen the graphic when it updated on 1st

i've never seen NBLB not trigger so ...

[nova lynx]

I don't see the NBLB trigger very often cause it's behind AFK popup but I'm like 99% sure it's leveling my stuff lol

[solar seal]

hoops won't go away for the life of me... but reset notifications only last for 0.000001 seconds

[echo crag]

hit cloudsave and check if you got afk time to claim on your currently active character

[wanton obsidian]

I noticed it didn't trigger cuz I remembered the bubble lvls

[wanton obsidian]

Maybe that's it? I logged on a char that wasn't doing anything

[solar seal]

and you checked your lab, didn't break anythign there?

[wanton obsidian]

Not broken

[solar seal]

do you have the sacred methods pack?

if a stamp got pushed or NMLB procced, then 100% nblb also procced

[wanton obsidian]

I got my stamp

Not bubbles tho

Maybe it's possible that the right side was hit instead maybe that's it

[solar seal]

what bubble(s) level are you claiming for sure didn't go up?

unless you can say for sure not a single bubble went up, i'm gonna think the ones you recalled just weren't hit and replaced w/ an atom nblb

[wanton obsidian]

Yeah that's it probably

Anyways is this a good captain?

[gilded sedge]

Yes

[bleak gazelle]

wtf sovereign first half and normal on some of the last ones

[solar seal]

seems they are both lucky and unlucky

[bleak turret]

I dooted early and just got to w5, I should stick all my characters on the altar until level 2 right?

[bleak gazelle]

2nd 📌 has a doot div guide

[bleak turret]

Thanks muchly

[bleak gazelle]

div levels will still be useful and you'll still want to unlock purrmep to speed up all your w5 skills, but you get the benefit of being able to grind lab and div right away

[nova lynx]

I didn't even think about that benefit before actually unlocking goat... man that's pretty sweet like 3-7 days (depending how lucky) of free lab exp

[bleak turret]

My other characters can finally escape the lab..

[nova lynx]

Doesn't mean they should

[bleak turret]

They need some skill levels eventually, don't even have void ore yet

[crude anvil]

Im right with you on that one, how was progressing to. W5?

I feel like I slowed down so much and kinda lack damage

[peak summit]

does arctis not work or something?

says all my characters are offline :/

[bleak gazelle]

W5 is typically when you'll need to start back tracking there's a small guide of some stuff that you can do in the 2nd 📌

[bleak gazelle]

Did you link them to Arctis just now? Try cloud saving and check again

If they were linked to Snake before, then you'll need to Unlink and re-link to Arctis

[peak summit]

i just unlocked it

unlink from snake?

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, each character can only be linked to one god at a time (unless it's an ES or you have doot)
That UNLINK button will show on all gods if you're linked to ANY god and will take you to a second screen to choose which characters you want to unlink

If you hit that UNLINK button it should show you a screen like this.
IMPORTANT: As the text at the bottom says, select all the characters you wish to unlink at the same time. When you then press the unlink button in the bottom right, that counts as one of your two weekly unlinks (+ free ones when you unlock a new god)

[peak summit]

damn...is it worth linking to the 2nd god instead of the first?

[fast wolf]

ye it is

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, the afk gains on snake don't apply to divinity and linking to arctis will get you your lab bonuses

[peak summit]

hm okay, does the 30% afk gains count towards fighting too tho?

[bleak gazelle]

this means you're more or less fine to take one person out to do stuff now

[peak summit]

well i never had anyone in the lab, but damn isn't 30% afk fighting better than a few lab upgrades? or do they get really good at the end?

[fast wolf]

lab is rly powerful

[zinc torrent]

bro lab, u running with 1 leg

[bleak gazelle]

I highly suggest taking a look at this divinity guide #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
And maybe take a look at the Lab bonuses on the wiki to see what you're missing out on https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Laboratory

While Arctis won't let you gain exp, you'll at least be able to get whatever bonuses you were able to reach before

[peak summit]

😄 alright i guess i just keep them in lab to lvl up a few times they're all lvl 1 lab

[bleak gazelle]

Did you not touch lab at all in W4?

[zinc torrent]

bro.. how long did u take w4-5

[peak summit]

uh, none of my other heroes touched w4 but i just pushed with siege breaker, maybe 3 weeks to get through w4 or smth, i'm close to w6 and got there a few days ago

[zinc torrent]

so u main 1 char.and didnt put others in lab

[peak summit]

just pushed with this guy

[bleak gazelle]

3 weeks of no lab progress, no elites

[zinc torrent]

1 man isnt how u play the game

[bleak gazelle]

i know at least one person was trying that out

[peak summit]

haha didn't no it was that bad, i just farmed cards in the meantime

[bleak gazelle]

that's... something

[peak summit]

the def and acc card set looked really good, maybe it isn't late game

[bleak gazelle]

Oh, the reason arctis isn't working is probably because you haven't touched lab with your other characters so the skill "isn't active" on them, similar to alchemy when you first unock it

[echo crag]

its a early-midgame set until your hp get high enough for hemo to keep you alive with mob kills

[peak summit]

ah okay, well what level should i level my characters to in lab?

[zinc torrent]

75 then 210

u timegated urself

[peak summit]

75??? that's gonna take years 😭

[rotund relic]

Just let them hop in and it should work

[zinc torrent]

cuz u didnt touch it xd

[bleak gazelle]

Honestly at this point, I'm not even sure what would be more efficient, either bee-lining for Goat so you can get both Lab/Div levels or splitting people in Lab/Div to get some people some levels or just full sending Lab for a bit

[echo crag]

theres a few meals that give buff to lab exp, it also become lot easier later on

[bleak gazelle]

Either way, your map pushing progress is going to be slow for a bit

Have you started the other W4/5 skills?

[peak summit]

yeah plundering and gaming, im doing okay for map pushing atm, still getting through it fairly easily

[bleak gazelle]

How about cooking/breeding in W4?

Mostly breeding, since cooking relies on spices you gain from breeding

[peak summit]

haven't done much breeding and cooking i keep failing recipes so i just left turkeys to farm for more dmg

[bleak gazelle]

ok, you've at least got turkey

Do you use Idleon Efficiency or Toolbox?

[peak summit]

yeah i just registered recently

[bleak gazelle]

Cool, so IE should have a best recipe to use for cooking new meals, so you can follow that and pray for RNG to be good. You can try cooking on multiple kitchens to give yourself more chances

The 9th one is the first Lab EXP meal, so try and unlock that as a goal

For Lab, your initial goal is to hit these three circled nodes in red (yellow is a bonus, depends on your prints).

• The one on the left doubles the prints of any characters that's in the Lab or has Arctis
• The middle one gives you free +1 level to certain bubbles (and you can add more bubbles and more levels with other bonuses)
• The right one gives you 2x kills to speed up your portal progress
• The far left (barn) also gives you damage, but it's based on how many pets you've unlocked in Breeding so it scales pretty slowly

With your lab levels right now, you can probably get to the first one for double prints, at least. I really don't know what the most efficient thing to do for your account is. I'm thinking keeping most people on Div and rotating 1-2 into Lab to gain levels might be a decent option though?

[bleak gazelle]

Lab levels increases Line Width which is distance between characters, so that'll help you light up more nodes

[peak summit]

ah okay but im only getting like 20 lab xp an hour, aside from the cooking one is there anything else i can do

aside from quitting the game for 3 months lol

[zinc torrent]

farm lab gear from mobs

skilled diwmit prayer

[bleak gazelle]

Here are all the bonuses, there's a few of them but they're kinda all over the place
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=lab exp

Actually, more importantly, did you get elite classes on all your characters?

[peak summit]

no, i also haven't done much worshipping so i've been locked at w3 crafts for a while

should i just push to elite classes quickly?

[bleak gazelle]

That's pretty normal. Not getting elite classes is an issue though

I would definitely go for that, they all have talents that give bonuses to W4/5 skills

Elemental Sorc will help with Div and Bubonic Conjurer will help with Lab

[zinc torrent]

he playing 1man no other chars and their bonuses, hell mode

[peak summit]

damn, whole lot of stuff to do 😄

[bleak gazelle]

If you can, I would go for Bubo first and then put him in Lab. He's got talents that will help give him more Lab exp and also give a portion to other characters

[zinc torrent]

u will get slapped hard if u get to w6 xd

[bleak gazelle]

Also make sure all your characters interact with Lab, too, so that Arctis does something

[peak summit]

what happens at w6?

[peak summit]

alright thanks i'll do that

[zinc torrent]

w6 cooties

[bleak gazelle]

Also, please remember, even with all this advice we're giving, play however you think is most fun

And ask as many questions as you want

[peak summit]

haha okay will do, also i never understood what sigils were

[bleak gazelle]

Sigils are more of an endgame thing since you have to enable them in Lab (it's that peapod node). They take a lot of bonuses to level in a timely manner, so no need to worry about them now

The first 4 are just flat stat bonuses that are pretty quick, so you may be able to grab those eventually

[zinc torrent]

sigil only when u got all bubbles

[peak summit]

the 3% bubbles are quite hard to get

[zinc torrent]

sham bubble breakthrough

[peak summit]

maxed out

[zinc torrent]

and luk boost from cauldrons

[peak summit]

luk boost?

[zinc torrent]

go to ur alchemy and tap color cauldron therr is a boost there

speed-luk-cost-extra

[peak summit]

ah yeah

[bleak gazelle]

Pay2Win tab too

[strong shale]

At which bonuses of orion is the next drop rate?

Cuz then i plan on mega feathering for 11 and not touching for a while

I really gotta do more lab just to get this dmg bonus? 😦

Unlocked the w6 bonuses so i cant reach

[bright meteor]

4k grind time soon

[bleak gazelle]

should be every 6, starting from 5.
So 5, 11, 17, 23, 29, 35

[strong nexus]

so much dr than rare item in w2 are comon drop now still unable to get the baseball cap on those moon....

[echo dove]

just want to know how do you get the last 2 gemstone in labs

[bright meteor]

jaded ones? If yes there are 3

[echo dove]

yea the jade ones, bought 1 from it and saw there was 2 more

[bright meteor]

every 700 lab lvl you can get 1 for free or buy from jewel spinner

[echo dove]

oh ok thx

[peak verge]

Is it better to active or afk for zow/chow stacking?

[lapis hill]

Anyone know if there has to be a % shown for the mutation tab in Gaming to get a chance at the next mutation? Have been clicking after every individual harvest, but not sure if I need to wait until it shows 0.1% for it to actually matter. Up to the last one now.

[languid vapor]

I've been wondering the same thing. I assume 0.0 means less than 0.1% tho
Can u ping me if someone answers 🙏

[short sparrow]

afk

[simple wadi]

As long as the button works, click it. Doesn't matter what the number shown is.

[lapis hill]

Thought that may be true, but wasn't sure if I was doing a bunch of work that meant an actual 0.0% chance. Thanks!

[bleak gazelle]

If you want a bit less clicking, just click after every "harvest all"

[oblique zinc]

https://marpad.idleonefficiency.com/
Dmg too low for w5 boss, is it the crit chance on my es?

[bleak gazelle]

Nah, your tab 4 talents are pretty bad

Max green, level yellow equally, keep orange around 30 for now, drop points in red to get points to spend. If you can book lightning, do that too. If you have spare points, throw them into book and bottom portal talent. You can also drop Symbols to 1 point if you want

Tab 1-3 look fine. If you have extra tab 1 points, then level the potion in tab 3 so you can level up tab 1 mana damage talent

You also need at least 1 point in Polytheism to make it work, check first 📌 for a guide

[primal sable]

I'm trying to get vman rn anything i should know about before i try doing the quests?

[bleak gazelle]

Don't do 1m deathnote kills on vman, just the gmush

[ebon mortar]

Feel like im stuck in the Q's with gaming, been here for a few weeks. Is that normal before you hit superbits?

[bleak gazelle]

A lot of gaming speed comes from artifacts and other sources like Equinox to force bigger nuggets, and W6 farming

So you basically get a boost, levvel up a bunch then wait around to the next boost

[ebon mortar]

thanks!

[junior dune]

Then you get snail and you start either getting consistent improvement or utter despair depending on luck

[peak verge]

Any objections for either of these?

Pretty please?

[bleak gazelle]

I'd probably just level Pirate Lord talent on second SB if you've got one, otherwise wil probably want to max damage before that and symbols

Not sure what the prio on leveling coins is, either

[peak verge]

It's my only SB, no duplicates.

[bleak gazelle]

If you have a decent amount of plunderous kills (1k-5k) then maybe like 10-20 points, but I'd still heavily prioritize your damage talenst over it

[peak verge]

As for sailing?

Since ngl, I have zero clue what SB's purpose is for combat. DK ES and Bubo all farm stuff one way or another, but SB?

[bleak gazelle]

SB active is to farm plunderous kills to raise DR. AFK purpose is to farm gmush to get the most use out of your Tab 2 Forge talent to speed up smelting, particularly for Godshard, but works for all bars, especially if you're trying to greenstack of get vials

[north palm]

Are divinity points only used to unlock gods? And therefore are useless after unlocking the last one?

[bleak gazelle]

SB is also pretty easy to push damage on thanks to dmg from movespeed talent, so easy portal/rift pusher

You can continue to unlock God Ranks with divinity points, they're somewhat useless (damage from ES talent and something else?) until you unlock the last W6 Jade Emporium purchase

[bleak gazelle]

For sailing, I'm not actually sure which is more important, so I guess following that guide on captain exp over sailing exp works. More important is the family bonus talent because it reduces the minimum travel time

[peak verge]

There's also people recommending this one if you can check sailing like every 4 hours or so but it's based on how your sailing speed is looking and how fast it fills up and such.

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, more based on how fast your loot pile fills up, but I wouldn't take it unless you can only check once a day or less or are going away for a while

Reason being, again, quantity > quality when it comes to rolling low % things like artifacts

Without unending loot, your boats will go to islands and deposit a chest until the loot pile is full, when it is full, they will go out one more time and stay at the dock with a chest. So you get loot pile + boats amount of chests.

With unending loot, you get loot pile amount of chests (and maybe 1 less?? because reasons??) that are slightly upgraded with more loot and a minor bump to artifact find chance

[hard grove]

Misc tasks led me to this much damage

Still need acc tho

[frigid swift]

WTS procrastination. Need to get rid of it so I can update my gears and tools

[hard grove]

Then kruk will be dead

[frigid swift]

thats not enough for kruk.

[hard grove]

I’m going to do some acorn assault to get my skull up (I have all the resources for luster weapon on ES except for the frost souls)

[hard grove]

30m sheet damage ES isn’t enough?

Oh sorry for the confusion I mean once I get more damage

[bleak gazelle]

idk, i've seen someone do it at 23m too so

[hard grove]

I should probably do some mining, or fishing would yall say (fishing for crystal island, mining for better tools for stats)

[hard grove]

I can try once my acc has been pumped to be enough to 100% hit moles

[silk yoke]

I did it on dk once I got to 29 million

It was very hard though

[frigid swift]

I've also seen people complain they cant do it at 35m. its not just sheet dmg that matters.

[hard grove]

I have a copper pickaxe rn sooooo

[silk yoke]

Idk what happened but I haven't really tried to increase my damage and since worl 6 I went from 29 million to 56 million

[frigid swift]

still better than some of my picks.

few of mine got that flint pick or w.e the starter one is

[hard grove]

That’s on my first character tho

Only 2 char have better pickaxe, maestro and DK

Should I apply agi on my pickaxe to help pump acc or wis for damage?

Tools for reference

[junior dune]

That's actually kinda impressive. I might never get to see one of those again

[hard grove]

I know I need better tools in general

[junior dune]

If you don't have enough accuracy to hit 100% then agi would help more right now. You will replace them in the future anyway

[frigid swift]

enjoy the view 😛 lol

[simple wadi]

If it makes you feel better, I was using the poop tools on a couple of my characters up until two weeks ago. And I'm in the top 10% in the tome

[hard grove]

Wait I could equip poopy pickaxe and not have to deal with mining for now

[junior dune]

I wanted to say it could be worse and that you have better armor than some of my characters but then I saw that shop skull and I can't be nice anymore

[solar seal]

poop tools aren't bad if you use them correctly

[frigid swift]

procrastination is hard

[junior dune]

The non serrated rex ring also hurts

[solar seal]

(saying that as an avid poop tool user myself)

[hard grove]

I know the one prayer that gives acc for damage is horrendous but I kinda need it for enough acc to get the 100% moles

[junior dune]

Have you tried cards and the card set?

Also Quack the rainbow food strat isn't great. The xp is additive and thus makes little difference and the health pot contributes very little damage. 1 green and 2 orange is probably the play for you except on bowman where all green is where it's at

[hard grove]

Slight oversight my poopy pickaxe got trashed…

[junior dune]

It's definitely worth putting golden grilled nomwhiches on everyone always even if it's just a small stack

[hard grove]

Still not enough acc with all my cards set but I have 22m damage with the prayer on so should I attempt?

I’m gonna do it even though my only keys come from the mini boss

Nah still not strong enough

Tome

how does one complete the "NOPE" task for world 5?

[frigid swift]

You dont. that is more like a placeholder

basically we dont have a daily task for w5 or 6

[hard grove]

oh

great

[junior dune]

Step 1. ???
Step 2. Repeat 69420 times
Step 3. Profit!

[strong shale]

hows your acc level so low

[frigid swift]

The nope task is dying on kruk 69420 times 😛

[strong shale]

and pump them stamp levels up

[frigid swift]

w6 is hard.

[bright meteor]

Which part of w6

[frigid swift]

the part of getting muiltikill so im doing more than 28k kp/h lol

[hard grove]

Just got auto loot

And the mega feather name tag

Autoloot is mad nice

after 5 long months I got autoloot

what should I card farm for first?

I have all maps up to moles

[frigid swift]

Card drop cards

Gigafrogs, Snelbies, Staches

[bright meteor]

Only went to ceramics map takes too long

Everyone is still taking a break in lab

[frigid swift]

ez game

1:200m randomly drop in less than 4m kills but i cant even get the ones from w5 lol.

[hard grove]

lol

why are ruby cards so insanely annoying to get like why do they have to cost thousands of cards AFTER getting platinum

[frigid swift]

longevity

[hard grove]

after im done with the card drop cards what cards should I go for? damage?

[worldly lagoon]

lava wants us to still have goals in this game, also he sells rubifiers for a reason

[frigid swift]

I went for crystal chance and DR because i was statue farming.

[worldly lagoon]

you should do card drop > drop chance > crystal spawn

[hard grove]

ok

oh yeah I still need to kill doot

[worldly lagoon]

card drop helps getting cards, drop chance also helps get cards i believe, and crystal are important for active farming

[hard grove]

anyone wanna doot (ES)

[frigid swift]

I pretend the doot card is not a thing

[hard grove]

no I just havent killed doot at all

[worldly lagoon]

only need like 1100 cards to rubify

[hard grove]

damn

still anyone down to doot?

I also need doot for cardiovascular

[short sparrow]

Well at least it seems like this next update isn't just going to be Feathers Part 2

Unless those are megafish

[frigid swift]

i just want the new classes

[short sparrow]

Same

I feel like it will be the last thing he does before he starts on w7 though

[strong shale]

msa big bits is huuuge for my gains

and i yolod snail 6 and hit it

[oblique zinc]

Thank you i tried this however i guess my dmg is still low

[hard grove]

the troll grind is real

[strong shale]

its always ram https://i.imgur.com/ObfCz64.png

https://i.imgur.com/68e3hjj.png

58 off guaranteed doot

[velvet ocean]

i got rift slug 3 times in a row the other day

wish one of them was doot

[fallow aurora]

how close r u to pity?

[peak verge]

at least it's not bean for like 3 weeks in a row... actual pain

[strong shale]

58

[hard grove]

im hitting 500m hits with my thunder talent!

[bright meteor]

3 more years to get doot or before

[severe spire]

Does someone know why my dmg gets halfed when I go to Minermoles?

[strong shale]

are u above 1.5x accuracy on dk?

[severe spire]

Ahh So i have the be 1,5x acc to get the dmg boots from

[hard grove]

I have my poopy pickaxe!

[strong shale]

i dont wanna talk about it https://i.imgur.com/oWeVoTn.png

[hard grove]

but im too low a level to equip it (5/15)

[lethal aspen]

pog so rich

[strong shale]

omg the omni procs..

[hard grove]

how much would 50k pet crystals cost?

bc thinking about it its guarenteed in 50k

[strong shale]

like $500

[hard grove]

damn

.85% isnt that bad actually

[strong shale]

or more i think

[hard grove]

imagine with my first tier 5 treat I get a doot

[strong shale]

cost of the game cost of the game

[zinc torrent]

i hv no words

[strong shale]

shhhhh its ok its ok its ok its ok

[bright meteor]

You're not one of us

Bro's gonna surpass me

[strong shale]

prints

[frigid swift]

doot weak.

[solar seal]

hypothetical question for ya, if you were forced back to start of w4 but got a free doot in the process - would you give up your current prog for it and redo w5/6?

[strong shale]

if i got all the gems back from what i spent in w5-6 yea

otherwise no

[frigid swift]

lol

[strong shale]

divinity wasnt that bad for me, and lab was just a grind in itself

but id do things a whole lot differently

200b dmg gained just from kruk shoes lolol

could 2 min claim the marble shoes actually

[hard grove]

is vman questline better to afk or active ES for?

[bleak gazelle]

ES portal doesn't work afk (same with DK, Bubo, SB, and BM revive mechanics)

[hard grove]

Ik

but would it be better to just afk all the time or active

i am only one character away from having the equinox lvl 100 on all characters done

[bright meteor]

Soon 10k

[hard grove]

Im going to attempt another full run of frosty firefight and hope I get past wave 16

[bleak gazelle]

what are your tower levels btw?

actually i've got your IE from 2 days ago

[hard grove]

the strat didnt work

still at 16

what do I do now?

[bleak gazelle]

are you using BM for the root/kick?

[hard grove]

nah

not yet

later I will

[bleak gazelle]

basically necessary for frosty td

[hard grove]

damn

ill get it later

mt friend said chizoar is ass bc of mastery and offered troll as a viable replacement (troll is too damn expensive rn bc of the nullo salts and starfire)

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, I told you to ignore that piece of advice because he's been playing too long

[hard grove]

yeah ik

[bleak gazelle]

Mastery definitely isn't the best, but Chiz is much easier to reach than Troll

[hard grove]

still trolls so expensive

[hard grove]

truth

new damage is 23.037M

[bleak gazelle]

chiz would probably give you more damage, too, since the stat boost of troll probably won't give you much

[hard grove]

oh def especially compared to half dimentia half void (top dementia bottom void)

[bleak gazelle]

honestly, could even keep the bottom half as void if you want

[hard grove]

chizoar 8 char task completed

[strong nexus]

does anyone have see a kangouroo or i misread the box that pop in

[hard grove]

unfortuntly I dont have the merit for it

[bleak gazelle]

#💖future-content-blog

[strong nexus]

no but there was a box in game saying to look for the noise around w2

[bleak gazelle]

yes, lava is just teasing that stuff in #💖future-content-blog

[strong nexus]

ah its not in

[fallow aurora]

u will know when there is a new update because he pings everyone

[strong nexus]

ho well back to my owl grinding

[bleak gazelle]

lul

[hard grove]

do I craft chaotic chiz blank

over deathbloom

[bleak gazelle]

nah, deathbloom is better

[hard grove]

1.3x damage is deathbloom (+20% mob respawn)

aight what do I do with my 2 blankies tho

[strong nexus]

where you get deathbloom that missing on my slab

[bleak gazelle]

give them to other people

[hard grove]

limited gemshop

FUCK I need purp salts

[bleak gazelle]

What do you need to unlock them?

[hard grove]

green salts

[strong nexus]

ah right i probably decide that my scarf was better and not waste my gem on it

[hard grove]

copius amounts of green salts

[bleak gazelle]

do you have to spend green salts to unlock it? it's been too long

[hard grove]

do I spend the 500 green salts to unlock? (I hae 590 but i need 500 for the wapon upgrade once the frost souls come in)

[strong nexus]

maxing out my slab is impossible i cannot spend more real money on this game

[hard grove]

acecow do I spend the 500 green salts?

I prob should

fuck it we ball

MICE???

[bleak gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/dew-it-galactic-republic-palpatine-gif-21847982

[bleak gazelle]

Good, this gives you a reason to upgrade this if you haven't already in the last two days

[hard grove]

wtf does it need mice for??

i have them set to mice, dung beetle, scorpions is this good

[bleak gazelle]

sounds good for now

did you get them new traps and use up the extra slots, too?

[hard grove]

extra slots yes new traps no

I need 800 green salts or 1600 blue salts

or 12,800 orange

sorry no 3200??

[bleak gazelle]

did you get them up to nature/steel traps already?

Also make sure you're setting nature traps on your Maestro to keep him at the top of your trapping levels. You don't have to give him a nature trap, just make sure he's placing one (0 critters//all XP)

[strong nexus]

pink salt require them

[hard grove]

ik but WHY does purple salts need the mice

[hard grove]

oh smart

[strong nexus]

because they can salto need frigid soul

[hard grove]

ik nullos need frigid

[strong nexus]

concidering i was stuck beathing frigid td for a while it stop me from progressing

[hard grove]

should I just grind out exp on my maestro for lvl 150 to get vman

or grind gmush

[strong nexus]

but eventually evry bonus around me give me enought stat so i dont event have to care for my equip

[hard grove]

im at 106 btw

[strong nexus]

i can beat w6 map naked if i want on most of my character

ya no i get that i mean dont focus to much on equip they not the place where you get the high stat bonus

stamp alchimy staut and post office combine is way easier

[hard grove]

what are you even talking about rn?

[solar seal]

little known fact, mice innards are purple and not red. so when you crush them, it comes out purple. you dehyrdate and voila, purple salts.

[hard grove]

OH that makes snese

[bleak gazelle]

but what about the cereal

[hard grove]

shhhhh it helps dehydrate

[strong nexus]

mice->salt->equip->stat im tellinging you thast not the best way to get stat

[solar seal]

you gotta feed the mice until they get nice and plump and their innards become purple

[hard grove]

ughhh now active grinding is better than afk for me bc of autoloot

3rd FUCKING EQUINOX MIRROR

[solar seal]

not sure if that's a happy or angry caps message. you'll end up with lots of them

[bleak gazelle]

i was suppsed to do minibosses two days ago

this whole moving mydaily reset really fucked meup

[strong nexus]

well you can do it today ago still ^_^

[solar seal]

just tell yourself, you were re-sync'ing them all to be on same day

[hard grove]

not happy

[bleak gazelle]

i was tryingto sync my weekly to match with lab rotation

and also moveitto 8pm my time because "oh yeah, i'll be paying attentino then"

that was a lie

[hard grove]

what can I even do with them (I just keep them in my inv to tp to equinox from anywhere)

[bleak gazelle]

alsomy space bar is fuckin up

[hard grove]

just about 7m more damage and then i'll attempt kattlekruk again

[solar seal]

its ok. at least you didn't accidentally spawn w6 minis while just randomly on your bubo and not realize it... so i'm forcing my w6s to be out of sync

[bleak gazelle]

like at this point i should just wait one more day i think

[hard grove]

oh no sorry not third SIXTH MIRROR

[frigid swift]

yall do bosses?

[hard grove]

why cant my rng be good enough for the cards

[hard grove]

my w6 miniboss is maxed

[bleak gazelle]

do you have card drop cards?

[hard grove]

guess why?

[hard grove]

I snapshotted them in

[solar seal]

you aren't there yet, dw about it

[hard grove]

thats exactly why its maxed

[solar seal]

you won't be there for a while

[crimson marsh]

Is it easier to get the first or second boat to level 300 in sailing?

[solar seal]

1st cause its gold/gold

[hard grove]

is it more worth to have bottom half void top half chizoar or full chizoar?

[solar seal]

bottom half chizoar is just slab

[hard grove]

ahh

free slab tho

[solar seal]

mastery is a dead stat

[hard grove]

isnt mastery just like the sand giants card?

yeah just raises minimum damage

[solar seal]

never used the card

[hard grove]

it just raises minimum damage

chiz chest gives 7% mast 3% total damage is that why its worth the 3% total??

oh boy I have 2 more levels of fishing to get! (116k to lvl up alr)

and then crystal island will be murdered in cold blood

30k/1m wormhole kills!!

im 90% sure that neutron ice ring does NOTHING for me bc of tenacity rings

almost enough bloodbones for chizoar

[bleak gazelle]

oh, lul, i apparently got this and didn't realize

[frigid swift]

im so close to being done with w6 recipes and im not even past leeks lol

still need anvil 6 to appreciate them :C

[hard grove]

nice

[solar seal]

what you missing to make anvil6? its not a hard recipe

[frigid swift]

the will to bother going and making it

[solar seal]

fair

[frigid swift]

im not even on magma armor or weapons so why bother

[frail dune]

i can change divinity god two times a week?

[solar seal]

make sure to change everyone on your roster at once when you do an unlink

[frail dune]

wdym?

what's roster, sorry

[solar seal]

you can unlink 2x / week. each unlink, you can unlink up to all 10 of your characters (your roster) at once. a lot of people mistake it for only 1 person per unlink

[bleak gazelle]

like so

[hard grove]

how rare is a rift tear?

[frigid swift]

eh not the worst

[frail dune]

ohhhh thx i get it now

[hard grove]

oh already 1 in less than 10 minutes

and I have an hour to get 3

what rift level should I go for right now

[lethal aspen]

whatever u can do without spending >1 day

[hard grove]

ok

[bleak gazelle]

wdym i shouldn't leave my bb in there for 10 days to suffer

[hard grove]

shit the rift has a specific one for DK

idk if I can get past rift 2...

[bleak gazelle]

Oh, do you know what the cost to unlock nullo salts is?

[hard grove]

750 purple salts

[bleak gazelle]

ty ty

[hard grove]

why?

what should I make my ES do?

[bleak gazelle]

just adding it to the wiki

[hard grove]

oh

[bleak gazelle]

up to you, you could work on W1-3 deathnote with it and make use of portal to help greenstack monster mats

[hard grove]

dioxide I have zero fucking clue how much

[bleak gazelle]

would also be a good time to buy anvil points on all your characters

[hard grove]

true true

alright so I have diamond skull on gmush, sandy pots, and thats it

ig rmush next

[bleak gazelle]

nah, red and wood should be last

work on the easier ones first

that'll get your multikill bonus up to help with the last ones

[hard grove]

shit u right

ig frog??

[bleak gazelle]

for your maestro, i'd probably wait to start on gmsuh until w1 is done, so you can just get him levels for now

yeah, you can basically do them in order or maps

[hard grove]

aight

i wont stop until all are eclipse...

jk im only doing until 1m

72k an hour

frog

[bleak gazelle]

not bad

[hard grove]

afk without my afk cards

[bleak gazelle]

[hard grove]

i could active ES it

[solar seal]

so i perused reddit yesterday, and someone posted the kruk infographic - and lot of responses asking for c.kruk and n.kruk of the same style...

[bleak gazelle]

guh, i forgot what i said i was going to do after plunders

[toxic saddle]

Makes sense

[solar seal]

resample

[toxic saddle]

Nightmare vman could be something to make

[bleak gazelle]

[toxic saddle]

That would be needed a lot more then normal kruk

[hard grove]

the more I active ES the more I get damage leading to more multikill

basically activing it all the way is OP

[bleak gazelle]

oh, think i wanted to CC some more, but pretty sure there was something else, too

[hard grove]

yk whats funny

[toxic saddle]

Tell me

[hard grove]

the item "Lense" is spelt wrong

[toxic saddle]

[hard grove]

in every sense of the word in any english its always spelt "lens"

[peak apex]

I'm trying to get the w5 gloves for my voidwalker and it shows that I already got the adept recipe drop from suggma, I've put a lot of hours into farming the map to get the recipe with no drops

Do I just need to sink more hours or could it be bugged? lol

[hard grove]

oh its def bugged

[solar seal]

define "already got recipe"

[hard grove]

ive never gotten a w5 recipe and every one of them it says i have it

oh they mean in the card screen where it shows loot

[bleak gazelle]

if your card looks like this, it means that you have found any W5 recipe drop, not necessarily the Suggma one

[hard grove]

ive never found any recipe in w5 and it still says that for me

[bleak gazelle]

If you've never found one, then it would be blacked out

[hard grove]

its not blacked out tho

[peak apex]

Yea it's showing up so maybe I just found another drop then

[solar seal]

you def have found a w5 recipe

you just aren't recalling

[hard grove]

i wonder if you never have any w5 recipes what would opening the tab 5 even show

[hard grove]

nah i woulda seen the special color of recipes if i got one

[peak apex]

I've seen recipe drops in w5 but none for the gloves

[hard grove]

only ever seen white and gold

[peak apex]

and I've farmed suggma for days

[toxic saddle]

Someone needs your help with Letter P, can you help with that? Or has he already messaged you xD

[solar seal]

use your royal urn count as an indicator. on average, it takes ~1k urns for people to get recipe. so if you aren't at that number yet, keep going

[peak apex]

Only reason I'm wondering if it's bugged is cause I've been able to unlock all the other recipes pretty quickly this is the only one I can't seem to get

Gotcha I just didn't wanna blow a bunch of candies in case maybe I was doing something wrong

[solar seal]

haven't been pinged or msged

[toxic saddle]

K, I’ll reply to it 👍

[bleak gazelle]

I mean, your IE Slab says you've picked one up

[peak apex]

I'm at about 1k urns now, maybe my luck is just bad lol

[hard grove]

i have???

wait a minute i might have gotten one and just was not paying attention

only way to know is crafting the tab

and FUCK NO too many nullo salts and other resources

thats for a later date

[bleak gazelle]

that do be average. don't forget the knuckles recipe is also 10-50x smaller drop chance than the other w5 recipes

[peak apex]

That actually explains a lot thank you for that info

praying to the rng gods now

[hard grove]

I wonder which recipe i got

prob fire spirit or lantern

I HOPE IT WAS FIRE SPIRIT

srsly tho what the fuck was the recipe i got

is there any place on IE, or toolbox that i can check on?

[solar seal]

check your cards - literally every single w5 mob from suggma to moles drop a recipe

[hard grove]

yeah it has that weird counts every one as one

and mr. brightsides dont have a recipe

[bleak gazelle]

eh, i'll take it, i guess

[solar seal]

that's material bag recipe

MK is MK nodders

[hard grove]

wdym MK is MK nodders what is MK

[solar seal]

multikill

was responding to ace's post

[hard grove]

oh

also ingame the recipe is not listed

[bleak gazelle]

ok, found my other afk% hat, ez 5 hours to killroy unlock

[hard grove]

it just says sundried glass and rare drop table

[south agate]

how do the skull challenges work in the rift? is it just random and better to just leave it active for a while?

[solar seal]

specify which skull challenge. tehre are 2

[peak apex]

Ok i blew 8 24 hour candies I just need to be patient and throw some characters on there lol

[south agate]

lava skulls, not there yet but just looking ahead

[bleak gazelle]

kill mob, rng for skull to appear on other mob. kill skull mob to hope for 50/50 rng to upgrade into better skull on another mob.

[south agate]

So just leave a character active there for a while and pray lol

[solar seal]

typically SB is best for lava skulls since their respawn mechanic isn't a map wipe

[hard grove]

how does one make forge not painful?

[bleak gazelle]

SB afk

[solar seal]

active* afk

[hard grove]

2 min claims or???

hourly?

[peak apex]

yea lol gonna throw a few

[solar seal]

you are not at point where you should/need to be 2min claiming on archers for forge

[bleak gazelle]

thought forge talent doesn't count active multikill for progress?

[hard grove]

ahh

[solar seal]

just keep your forge stocked w/ ore and turn on the auto arm

should more than plenty keep/produce the bars you need

[hard grove]

fuck my next 100 void is a pain

and then I get acces to an old friend a chizoar helmet

[south agate]

im painly waiting for black salts for troll armor

[hard grove]

should i unlock peeper pouch or diabolical armor??

[solar seal]

very typical of late-mid game gear prog

[hard grove]

i have 1 unlock and none of the diabolical unlocked

[south agate]

I can instantly move from troll to magma, just waiting for salts lol

[solar seal]

if you haven't yet, i'd just farm everything up through divine

[hard grove]

peeper pouch costs 10k sand sharks 20k bees, 20k hive chunks and 5k souls?

[solar seal]

including the bars you need for all 10 sets

[hard grove]

copper skull on frogs

just need diamond

[south agate]

the diabolical armors basically just used for slab isnt it lol, chizors just better yeah?

[hard grove]

almost 1k stamp level!

I am so getting every eclipse skull later

im alr halfway to diamond skull on walking sticks

i just might have the 1m portal kills on my ES

and then I can shove my points in the damage talent

[bleak gazelle]

man, this thing

help, what do

[frigid swift]

trash

[bleak gazelle]

true, only need 9 more

[frigid swift]

for what lol

[frigid swift]

the crafting requirements sometimes bro...

[bleak gazelle]

oh. i think i fucked up, said i was going to wait one more day...

[frigid swift]

correct lol

[hard grove]

24m damage...

one day

[bleak gazelle]

well, guess i can use a golden stop watch

good time to for trophies anyway

forgot bonejoes for slush

[hard grove]

wtf frog legs are used in an unobtainable stamp

anyways i have too many frog legs

[hard grove]

I got 250k frog kills!!

2/40 diamonds

[bleak gazelle]

got this

[frigid swift]

hax

[solar seal]

weren't you going to wait to do minibosses tomorrow?

[bleak gazelle]

i forgot and did slush

so figured i'd just use a golden stopwatch

[solar seal]

KEKW

[bleak gazelle]

good trophy week so

[hard grove]

how exactly does nutrient neural network work in relation to active play?

[bleak gazelle]

same as afk i'm pretty sure?/

also 🎉

[hard grove]

nice

i got call me bob

first 10 purple salts!

now just 140 to go

[bleak gazelle]

FUCJK

STUPID PORTAL

lost 3 spiritlords

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[hard grove]

damn

happens to the best of us

25.258M

85/100 and then I get my hands on equinox... skilling

what is the best equinox vial i think it might be marble mocha

[solar seal]

if this is the auto-replenish food, it only works on AFK

[hard grove]

oh ok

[faint stag]

It is kinda feint, but thats about 234,000k seconds of alchemy XP. Anything that might help make this number higher? I.E, certian skills leveled or maybe a better map, gears? Just want something to work towards. ive ignored alchemy for too long

theres my bubo stats and equips

[solar seal]

make sure your skill bar is jsut these 4

[solar seal]

remove the rest - you are preventing respawn and aura from triggering more by having them on your bar

[faint stag]

Huh. The more you know

Thanks for the heads up

[solar seal]

other than that, its just making sure you got crystal chance maxed (cards, doublers, etc)

[faint stag]

No doubler, but running the best CC cards I got plus maxed out P.O Box

Will let this run over night and see how it goes

[bleak turret]

I decided to lab up every character except my pusher (sb) and BB for cooking. activated brightside when I reached clams so the second half felt just as fast as the first (it makes a huge difference)

[solar seal]

oh one thing i'll mention - hopefully you've done all of equinox and have liquidvestment at 99% to max your liquid gains overnight

[faint stag]

I stopped caring about equinox once it asked me to dungeon. Maybe ill stop be lazy and continue it lol but thats where im at

[solar seal]

the upgrade to liquidvestment is the cog one. you'll be missing out on 36% of liquid overflow overnight

[faint stag]

Ive been working on that over time. By working on it I mean checking my cogs for double cogs everyday. 20/48 atm

anything I should do to boost this?

[solar seal]

other than just straight cogging, not really

rng is rng

[faint stag]

Gotcha. Just gotta keep waiting/checking on that then

[hard grove]

500k frogs killed

[oblique zinc]

This enough for kattlekruk?

[solar seal]

it'll be long but should do it if your talents are right

no scarf?

[oblique zinc]

Chizoar?

[solar seal]

yup and then upgraded with merit unlock

[oblique zinc]

Nope haven’t been farming chizoar at all