lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[winter trout]

I can't get past even rift one 😦

[orchid iris]

I mean if you're just talking about spending money to boost then yeah theres no fun in playing

[pliant ferry]

Rift is deceptive. Just because you are in W5 doesn't mean you are ready for Rift

Rift reward 1 isn't all that needed, 2 is kinda useless until you get super far in breeding. 3 you aren't high enough for, 4 hell no

[strong nexus]

comeptition whitout cash shop is the only fair competition because its base on your talent and push the other to work hard ,but there no point to competition in a cash shop game

[winter trout]

Ok thanks mate

[pliant ferry]

I have competition at work against people who had more family money than I did. Making it easier for them. Same concept no?

[strong nexus]

no because you can have money irl doesnt mean you have competence if you sithing on a chairman pposition but you dont know nothing about how you employer work you will crash the compagni

[pliant ferry]

A good breakpoint for rift is to hit the 2nd tier of rewards for the 3rd bonus. Skill mastery. You need 200 total of a skill. Once you have 200 total start pushing rift

[strong nexus]

heir of the chairman position often destroy there father legacy

[pliant ferry]

and I look forward to riding my throne down the firey slopes of hell!

[halcyon glade]

1. Try to boost your stamps; might require increasing an Archer's carry capacity as high as you can push it
2. Level the big-yellow Grind Time bubble as high as you can and put it on whoever you're training as your pusher. Way, way more important than the level up gift I see you have
3. What companions do you have?
4. It's generally worth it to try and level everyone a bit — family bonuses are nothing to sneeze at
5. You've unlocked Arctis & Nobisect. Stop pushing divinity on all your toons — put everyone on Arctis except your pusher, who you can link to Nobisect to help them push
6. Take red/green salts off of autorefine immediately. Ranking those up = more salts faster = everything is much better

[strong nexus]

you think the devil will let you keep it?

[pliant ferry]

He won't have a choice when I take over

[bleak gazelle]

For damage (I assume first DK), I would prio

• Talent respec, I recommend dropping points in red talents (down to 1 for Symbols) and leveling green talents, use your books on them (not sure what your max is). You can boost yellow talents next, as well. You can also check the Wiki to check your Knight talent level, there are some breakpoints where you'll get an extra attack.
• Boost orange bubble 1 and 17, recommend at least 100 for first bubble, whatever you can for 7. Can also bump orange 2 up to 75 when you can.

For account, I would prio

• Work on your MMan skills, you want rank 1 in W1-3 non-town skills
• Once that's done (or skill by skill), resample. Use your samples to boost your bubbles and power your refinery
• Stop building Atom Collider, pretty much anything else will give you more value. I would recommend either boulder tower to help with TD or talent library to get more books, you want to get that 1k achievement ASAP

I would also look at

• Forge - fill up your slots and buy all your upgrades, you need to be smelting as many bars as possible, this will help with buildings and some bubbles
• Anvil - you have a lot of capped production, make sure you've bought as many upgrade points as possible and upgrade carry capacity bags, too. Anvil items are another large timegate. Use the points tab to upgrade through W1-2 materials, which should be easy enough to farm at this point with ES.
• Trapping - I would swap your MMan traps to w/e the highest critter you have unlocked with the highest XP option you have available (recommend getting nature trap). Again, once he's rank 1, then you can reset traps again with BM to make use of MMan's RIght Hand efficiency talent. Also recommend getting scorpies for refinery

Future considerations

• DR obol farming with DKs at Snelbies to get dice and car DR card and ES at Gigafrogs for pops and horns
• Barb Zowing W1 for damage and mats to start greenstacks

Oh, statue talent should be red circle, oops

[bright meteor]

Reenstacks

[winter trout]

Thanks man

Appreciate it

[pliant ferry]

or just buy doot

[bleak gazelle]

true

[pliant ferry]

Start building that throne

[bleak gazelle]

is it a throne of lies?

[pliant ferry]

lieing cheating AND stealing

[junior dune]

God nightmare kruk has health...

I'm thankful I didn't try to do it on my vman

1000T

[echo crag]

you'll need to for the the merit to get the last recip from kruk gear

[junior dune]

Yeah, but not just yet

It shouldn't be a problem either I guess but very slow

[bleak gazelle]

that's like next year man

[echo crag]

i need to check my dmg again on vman, i probably able to breeze through that pain now

[junior dune]

Actually it shouldn't be that bad to get the scarf for me if I optimize it a bit

And 700 keys is like a day

[echo crag]

w6 buffs helps alot with dmg too

[junior dune]

You need lvl 425 for the scarf

That isn't an issue on dk and bubo but for the rest that's rough right now

[echo crag]

get your bubo to work on water and dump it in GT, will be lvl 500 by the time you get to the 9lock

[bleak gazelle]

?? should be 500 way before then

[bright meteor]

Soon...

[junior dune]

Actually I won't do the scarf now. I've spent 7 min and am at 50% health on my dk. I don't feel confident that my BB or vman will be able to kill 100% of moles for half an hour due to the bad skills

[bright meteor]

And big

[strong nexus]

why achivement alway take a eternity to show

[mint plinth]

~12 000 Keys down as of now at 14.8 dr. Starting to highly doubt that the kruk wings actually exist

[bright meteor]

I can now boost my main even more he has 3.5m stealth for now

[bright meteor]

How long did it take u to grind all the keys?

[strong nexus]

ok next achivement 1 green stack of octopus balls

[bright meteor]

Idh that lol

[strong nexus]

that should be way easier than the 500 dam black lense

[mint plinth]

I have no clue i just leave dk at worms every night

[bright meteor]

Afk?

Idle I meant

[strong nexus]

i have less and less achivement to do boring

[mint plinth]

Active, it started as just getting the onyx statues but now its just now golden noms and keys

[bright meteor]

I still have 3 w2 statues to onyx then Idk for w3

[junior dune]

Skip W3

Honestly just do W5 immedietly if you can do wurms

[mint plinth]

I havent bothered W3 either and W6 is as work in progress still too

[junior dune]

The nomwiches and hampters are great and come quickly and the statues are fine as well

[mint plinth]

I just want my fancy trophy now

[junior dune]

Pecunia was quite nice from W4 though

[bright meteor]

W3 crystal doesn't drop all statues so annoying

[mint plinth]

Luckier is only 20 away from being done* too

[bright meteor]

All I have already

[junior dune]

Oh yeah class xp one is horrible

Rip didn't get the card from nightmare kruk

and it took 19 min

[mint plinth]

i have 2 star nightmare kruk card after 12 000 keys lol

I'm so done with the boss i got a kill with 2 strung tooth drops but not the goddamn wings

[bright meteor]

@junior dune ngl I could be putting all my characters at Wurms to farm keys

[junior dune]

Ngl but putting at least dk or bubo there is probably a good idea

[bright meteor]

Idk I just want to get strung tooth then divine scarf for all of them

Nvm all of them aren't lvl425

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, honestly, might just stop w3 for now

just now barely hitting 9k

got some skilling obol sets and I needed pens, but probably better to just do w4/5 for now

[bright meteor]

I used 1k silver pens today from w2 crystals

[bleak gazelle]

oh, yes, PO box pens, too, but I needed penguin pens for vial leveling

[green ocean]

I’m sitting on like 600 pens right now just because I hate using them. I can’t wait to get those running with the atoms but even then it’s so slow

[bright meteor]

I don't think the boxes get multiplied with the artifacts that way though

I'll ask someone

[bleak gazelle]

for the lazy gamer, i'll give up the extra boxes

[green ocean]

They also don’t get the “streak” bonuses. But they also don’t cost resources on the 10m mark exactly that I don’t feel like having to go back to sampling. Or worse the resources I’m barely keeping up with for salts.

[bleak gazelle]

actually, probaby need to swap over to w5 statues cause i used all my money on stamps

[green ocean]

But think if you did w4 you get coin statues too

[cursive cosmos]

how do i survive worms 💀

[bright meteor]

Food

It they one shot u idk

[rapid shale]

Increase your health so that hemoglobin Star talent heals more

[bleak gazelle]

increase damage so everything dies as it spawns

[somber sundial]

pls

[bright meteor]

Resuming w2 statues farming

x14 dr on Dk soon I might grind more plunderous mobs one day

[olive drift]

Yes

[bold geyser]

mfw lv4 snelbie card and 0 dice obol

[bleak gazelle]

rip, should have dropped at least a few

well, you can go farm up some stache cards and then farm up other DR cards now too

[bold geyser]

Yea my stache already 4 from unlocking equinox thankfully

i came into this snelbie farming with 7.25 drop rate; capped on silver pop obols

[bright meteor]

Do people really use card chance for skilling cards farming?

[terse verge]

Why wouldn’t you? Cards are cards. Only dungeon ones aren’t covered.

[bright meteor]

Idk I forgot they existed

But I might use them if I wanna farm useful cards

[terse verge]

After you get passive cards from rift skill mastery, its alot easier to slot in the card drop cards

[bright meteor]

Yes

Dk for dr cards grinding?

[ruby barn]

ES

ES is for all cards

[light sapphire]

hello

i wonder if it the time to hard farm crit damage

and get the megacrit

i'm at the end of world 5

[bright meteor]

Mobs only but not crystals I think

Idk I do Dk 99% of the time

[ruby barn]

Yeah DK is for all crystals Im pretty sure

[bright meteor]

Dk main 🤓

I would use ES maybe one day for dmg bonus and mats farming cards too maybe

[bleak gazelle]

DK on snelibies is nice if you need to farm dice obols too still

great map for it

[ruby barn]

Real

[bright meteor]

Yes

[bright meteor]

I have full dice obols I'm just missing 5k sparkle silver pops and things to be rerolled

[bleak gazelle]

we gettin there with the level 30 plates

[olive drift]

Upgrade that neglected plate

Vman talent is op

[bleak gazelle]

it's in the works

[bright meteor]

I need to unlock more crops and the 2 last food but no spice

[bold geyser]

Alright, W2 mobs with DK for obols and by chance pick up some front page drops (Nuget cake, glass shards, etc)...? or just farm for those drops with ES so many decisions

[still apex]

You don't want to farm nuget cakes on dk

Glass shards are fine

[rustic mantle]

im kinda stuck on killing nightmare kattlekruk, i can kill him, it would just take forever. any suggestions on how to boost damage quickly and efficiently once you've hit the W6 wall?

[quiet pewter]

alchemy

[rustic mantle]

alchemy has been a focus

[still apex]

Getting other tools caught up and on w6 stones

[bold geyser]

Why are glass shards okay but the rest aren't? Just cuz of the need for a ton of pocketsand?

[still apex]

Map layout

[rustic mantle]

not a bad idea, my fishing rod and net are lacking

[bold geyser]

that makes a lot of sense

[quiet pewter]

sandpots are the best dk map either way

[rustic mantle]

is the best map for power statues still beans?

[bold geyser]

oh maybe i'll just do beans for power the onyx statue thing huh

[still apex]

I'm spending some time getting all my people leveled for the first w6 tools with candy. Idk if that's feasible for you, it could help.

[quiet pewter]

dk beans is best w1, even if you can get more power statues elsewhere it would be an overall loss

[crimson night]

when do you usually reach 1m build rate total

[warm trout]

whats best way to do this? dont see such trades in upcoming month

[somber sparrow]

that trade is completely dependant on how many of something u have

you could try to force it by trading, re-entering map , trading, re-entering map and so on

because it will always give you new numbers based on how much you have left

might just not work out though, you could pre calculate it but thats too much effort imho

[warm trout]

crazy thanks

[strong nexus]

does multikill bonus work in rift like if my w4 death note is higuer will have a easier time to do the kill 500 mob in 5 min?

[lethal aspen]

multikill doesnt work on that one anyway

[strong nexus]

ok not that i expect it work and not that im worry to progress my rift further for now

[frigid swift]

lets gooooo

[bleak gazelle]

dang yo, done passed me

[rustic mantle]

does anyone have a vman speedrun build?

[bright meteor]

@frigid swift how many plunderous kills do u have and the bonus

[still apex]

The gold twine grind sucks. I've been waiting on void salts thinking they would be the only problem. I was very wrong.

Are they worth spending candy on?

[bright meteor]

doing bubo?

[still apex]

I was doing ES, i didn't like it. I'm trying DK now. Is bubo the way to go?

[bright meteor]

bro idk I'll test

with bubo

almost x14 dr

[fallow aurora]

es is probably gonna be the best for gold twines

[still apex]

Got one

[sharp mauve]

Gold Twine is honestly nothing worse since it is not as time gated as Nullo Salt. Dunno why ppl keep whining when I consumed 83 Twine.

[fallow aurora]

why tf did u have so much

[sharp mauve]

AFK 440+ days

[fallow aurora]

[sharp mauve]

Farmed them back within hours of a day, not even using 10x DR.

[fallow aurora]

I remeber it taking me 3 days to get 3 gold twine

[marsh crescent]

I have a 1 in 942 cahnce for a crystal spawn... i got 4 on the screen within 2 minutes make it make sense XD

[steep kiln]

Daily reset maybe?

[icy stone]

daily crystals or rng

[dusky hedge]

where do i find the base time ti takes to convert atoms?

[marsh crescent]

well its hard to push w5 when crystals 1 shot me XD

also does the 10 million stack icon go away when i go under the 10 million?

[crimson night]

yes

[short sparrow]

Man troll armor takes so much damn nullo

[frigid swift]

right

[steep kiln]

Can you maybe explain what you mean? Atoms aren't time based they are material based

[dusky hedge]

Well I flicked on the atom thingy and nothing really happened so I didn’t know if there was a cool down to produce them like salt or if there’s a concert button

[frigid swift]

never turn it on 🙂

[steep kiln]

So you can set different thresholds but it's based on turning excess materials over the limit into atoms.

[short sparrow]

I turned it on once or twice to get the first couple upgrades

Then yeah turn it off and just get your oak and copper to max cap

Everything after 1050m will be converted regardless

[dusky hedge]

ok well I have a stack of 700m copper ore and my atom thing is flicked on but I have no atoms

[short sparrow]

What's your threshold set at?

[dusky hedge]

25m

[steep kiln]

Change maps

If you want it to delete that copper

[dusky hedge]

ok so you just have to refresh so to speak

[steep kiln]

Yeah. Most people will suggest setting it to the max threshold of 1050m so you can still stack materials freely for things like vials

[hexed valley]

Where should PO boxes be spent

[short sparrow]

That's such a vague question lol

[lethal aspen]

In the post office

[hexed valley]

Let me rephrase that

[frigid swift]

w2

[hexed valley]

Is there a guide to show what boxes I should upgrade for each character

[lethal aspen]

probably not anymore, do you have choc chip btw?

[upbeat stratus]

Ok now that’s a good question

[steep kiln]

I'd say a good general guideline is max out a skilling box for that character first

[lethal aspen]

I wouldnt say 400 points straight up is best, but focusing it definitely

[hexed valley]

Oh too late 😂

[lethal aspen]

like 200 points is 50% of the max value for all bonuses (1,2,3)

[short sparrow]

I put points into alch and mana box for bubo

[hexed valley]

I mean I can get like 200 silver pens a day so not too to worried

[short sparrow]

Dr and mana for ES and DK

[torn fractal]

i forgor what i was gonna say dang.

[warped crow]

Is there a good resource for min maxing sailing?

legit don't know where to send my little doods

[sharp mauve]

It depends on whether u need an artifact or hoarding specific Treasure to upgrade underleveled ship.
I sent my highest speed ships to The Edge and Musical Island, while others are hoarding Treasures for upgrades.

[warped crow]

fastest ship to the edge makes sense, does dumping every other ship in one resource to power level max speed a single ship make sense?

or spreading the wealth is the way to go?

[sharp mauve]

I don't like wide spread especially if one or 2 particular ships are under average stat.

[rustic mantle]

is there any way to get a card to r5 without gemshop items

[sharp mauve]

Rift only

[lethal aspen]

just get more

[sharp mauve]

A card can go to R5 with Gem Shop item without having to unlock 5 star cards from Rift.

[rustic mantle]

i guess i meant r4 technically

like is there a treshold for 5 starring a card

[rain forge]

https://i.imgur.com/i3Ugnld.png

I was using this image for some card builds I had seen posted here before, changing a few things out if W6 cards are better, but I was wondering if there's a set for ES that people would recommend for drop rate? I'm farming hampter right now to start getting the weapons that need it

[sharp mauve]

I don't get it but you have to unlock it from Rift. U do can collect cards atm.

[icy pulsar]

is there a reason to keep hard focusing div (all characters on div) after getting goat god?

have had all of them there, except for one, for prob 2 weeks now to get 25 div lvl on all of them + goat god

[bold geyser]

DK farming feels very underwhelming right now compared to ES...

[sharp mauve]

Would see if it is possible to get Vman, do some easy Equinox challenges like total levels.

Otherwise when you are at Orange map, with artifacts that boosts Div, u can aim for Div 40. Plus a mage to Div 50 for Multitool stamp.

[rapid shale]

Pushing to Tranqi for Div exp at all times

Level 40

[icy pulsar]

vman is still a ways away but i’ll look at sailing. it’s been going on in the background during the div push and gotten pretty far

[icy pulsar]

that’s actually not that bad, only 15 more lvls

[sly cedar]

lol i know exactly what you mean

[zinc torrent]

Salutations idleoners
Is there any upgrade which will allow me to gain a bigger chance of getting new type of plant in gaming?

[sly cedar]

i was active farming DK to push to w5, now im only strictly using ES for active farming cause im trying to collect materials

when you get to a point where your goal is crystal mob farming, DK can become useful again

[sly cedar]

I don't think so

If there is, I'd like to know as well, I still have 3 plants to go and it's verrrry slow accumulating chance

Im rolling at like 2-3% at the moment

[simple wadi]

That's your problem. You need to roll every chance you get. Even if it's just at 0.1%, roll it.

[sharp mauve]

and can still stuck for months.

[bleak gazelle]

i just cleared the board and rolled after

[short sparrow]

YOOOO

[pale crag]

[short sparrow]

I did a double take, I closed the mutation screen like usual and was like WAIT

[main tulip]

I should get a card soon

[gentle furnace]

you should go back to previous worlds

[zinc torrent]

damn 2kills per hr

[rustic mantle]

in at least 2

that's double the chance

[main tulip]

Bet

[vocal stump]

maybe if you are lucky one of those two kills will spawn a giant if you are active

[main tulip]

Lmao

[main tulip]

Done

Also I just unlocked the shovel and I clicked it a bunch and got an 87.6 gold nugget

[still apex]

I'm finally making new armor, a while ago some kruk armor wasn't recommended does that really matter? Or should i make them all when i can?

[gentle furnace]

get marble set if you can afford it

[still apex]

I'd need time for the marble bars and especially the leafy droplets, should i print them on my BM?

[gentle furnace]

i doubt he can print much but if you dont wanna farm it with es act then its also a good choice

[still apex]

Getting everything set up to print i could get somewhere around 4k, with doot over 25k. Only 200 hours a piece..

[gentle furnace]

id say just farm it with es if you have enough dmg

[still apex]

I probably won't, ES is a lag machine. Printing is passive at least

[sharp mauve]

I only craft Kurk Boots and Helm for Drop Rate to be shared around.

[gentle furnace]

oof

[sharp mauve]

So my pants and chestplate are skipping kurk tier to marble.

[gentle furnace]

make 3

[sharp mauve]

Not enough Nullo yet, but production rate is good now

[sly cedar]

what is the progression for CC maps again?

[still apex]

So in the mean time should i stick to molten chest and legs?

[sharp mauve]

I personally prefer the All stat% bonus

[rustic mantle]

getting these 20k power statutes is like pulling teeth. do i just not have a high enough chance? 1 in 73

or is it just like that

[still apex]

Flom, citringe, tremor wurm is all i did maybe cans if you can't manage flom

[sly cedar]

hmm i thought there was something between cans and flom

guess i need to candy mmy bubo to floms

[frigid swift]

ew. new hat

[sharp mauve]

Like, might as well try to farm some Gold Twine. 🤔

[sly cedar]

suits ya quack

[sly cedar]

yeah ill ge3t there, im still working on my chiz set lol

just waiting on salts now

[short sparrow]

What's your crystal chance/dr?

[rustic mantle]

can anyone tell me how to find your config json for cogtimizer

[rapid shale]

IE/IT can give that to you

[sly cedar]

do you use Idleon Efficiency?

can get it there

[rustic mantle]

oh its on there? sweet

thanks

[short sparrow]

Or just ignore me too ,, that's fine

[rapid shale]

just follow this :p

[sly cedar]

yeah in top right corner, player upload or something and then you can copy the json

[sly cedar]

pretty sure theyve been trying to work out how to use cogtimiser, not reading discord much prob

[short sparrow]

Yeah it's fine lmao

[rustic mantle]

i saw what you said, the 'thank you' was to the crowd

[wanton obsidian]

I just did a vman speed run, went from 300mil dmg to 2b but got the exact same portal 😒

Probably skill issue tbh

[short sparrow]

Yeah I'm stuck on portals too

I think multikill is really important for speedrun

[wanton obsidian]

I could maybe get +1 or 2 portals if I was faster

[wanton obsidian]

Is there a reason why you should keep the yin cogs?

[rapid shale]

they scale

[wanton obsidian]

How well?

Does it give extra bonus if you do a complete circle

[rapid shale]

the boost everything is really nice to, as its player construct xp

so just more xp for DK

[wanton obsidian]

That's yin cogs?

[sly cedar]

yes

[rapid shale]

oh my B

these are best player constuct xp cogs in game

[wanton obsidian]

Yea I'm aware but I'm asking about the yin cogs

[sharp mauve]

Is this the combined Yin Cog?

[sly cedar]

yeah when you put 4 together it makes excogia

[sly cedar]

yes

[sharp mauve]

No wonder they are put below there....

[wanton obsidian]

Isn't that what I asked

[sharp mauve]

Yes XD

[rapid shale]

im dumb

my b

[sharp mauve]

Secret gem shop purchase combo

[rapid shale]

i honestly though it was just like that normally, i havent really looked at them

[wanton obsidian]

Alrightt tyy ima buy 2 more cogs to complete the circle

[rapid shale]

Yang cogs busted though, cause normal directionals can not go past 65% player construct xp

[wanton obsidian]

And the fact that it gives build SPD as well

[sharp mauve]

I hope no one dumped the Yin Cog bcs it looks rubbish

It is precent based bonus

[rapid shale]

I need to buy the last two gem cogs I guess

[sharp mauve]

I got roasted for not buying a full set XD

[wanton obsidian]

How much does it cost ?

[sharp mauve]

875 gems for 4th one

[wanton obsidian]

For the last

Jeez we gonna go broke tonight

[rapid shale]

fairly expensive

[sharp mauve]

I have not even complete the first one 💀

Guess it is too op that lava has to raise the cost?

[rustic mantle]

thanks guys

Total Build Rate
+51.77K/HR

Player XP Bonus
+86%

Flaggy Rate
+1.63K/HR

[wanton obsidian]

Ur in w5?

[sharp mauve]

Why the board XP rate looks so wrong?

[wanton obsidian]

Why is ur xp so low

[rustic mantle]

thats additive lol

[rapid shale]

build rate doesnt matter, just stack xp and build rate will come

[rustic mantle]

to what is already there

[sharp mauve]

Oh nvm XD

[rustic mantle]

that's just what cogtimizer optimized

[wanton obsidian]

Ahh I see

[rustic mantle]

<3

[rapid shale]

cogtimizer enforces bad habits imo

[sharp mauve]

I don't like it cause I am using 2 Squires XD

[sinful aurora]

Only exp matters in construction.

[wanton obsidian]

Why?

[sinful aurora]

Nothing else.

[rapid shale]

its bad at actually optimizing for xp

this is better to follow

[rustic mantle]

weighted it to prioritize xp

[wanton obsidian]

What does cogtimizer even mean?

[rapid shale]

I dont think cogtimizer checks for the directional XP bonuses though

[rustic mantle]

better than nothing until i learn the system better for myself

it may not be optimal, but for someone that's had 2 traumatic brain injuries, i need all the crutches i can get

[wanton obsidian]

What is it?

[rapid shale]

https://monoblos.github.io/cogtimizer/

[rustic mantle]

Optimizes cog placement automatically and gives you steps to arrange them as such

[wanton obsidian]

Wow ty

[rapid shale]

pls dont get used to cogtimizer

[junior arrow]

honestly just pretend all cogtimizer's dont exist, they are all bad and dont really help at all

[wanton obsidian]

So slight problem

I searched up my first idleon username and it gave me another account

[rustic mantle]

its helpful for midgame players

[rapid shale]

I have used the image I provided since i entered w3 (maybe a couple weeks in), its really not that helpful

[rustic mantle]

like i said, as a disabled person, yes it is.

[wanton obsidian]

Why did it give me another account when I loaded my username in?

[gentle furnace]

did you follow the caps

[rapid shale]

for you okay, but you said its helpful to midgamers which i disagree with

[sharp mauve]

Wrong name or just try email

[wanton obsidian]

Caps?

[gentle furnace]

capital

Cc

[rustic mantle]

ill edit my statement to say, it's helpful to midgamers who are confused by the cog system

[wanton obsidian]

vinnnyy right?

[sharp mauve]

Errrr

[rustic mantle]

use your json instead

[rapid shale]

I mean again, that still only enforces them to get into a bad cog board habits

[wanton obsidian]

What is json

[wanton obsidian]

I don't get it, wym by bad board habits

[sharp mauve]

Don't care about it, they will wake up or sleep forever, it's their problem.

[rustic mantle]

i don't think that those habits are unresolvable

[junior arrow]

just use the image showing the optimal cog layout, cogtimizers dont understand it and teaches you to play poorly

its just not worth wasting your time on

[bleak gazelle]

all you need to know is boost construction xp

that's it. that's construction

[rapid shale]

The earlier someone starts working towards player xp and directional player xp, the faster their construction will get better

[junior arrow]

cogs is literally xp cogs... does it give xp yes put it on, no xp forget it, dont need a website to tell you that

[sharp mauve]

Go to player selection. U can see whether u caps or not on menu.

[rustic mantle]

why are you so rude and on edge all the time?

[sharp mauve]

They are saying the truth

It may sounds harsh but it is what it is.

[junior arrow]

im not, but why do you always have a problem with me, is it because i asked you to grow up and leave me alone the other day

[rustic mantle]

i don't disagree with what they're saying i disagree with the way they said it

[sharp mauve]

Nah don't take it too much about it. I sometimes got ppl saying the same thing to me as well.

[junior arrow]

i say it simple and direct, use xp cogs, dont waste time with anything else, nice and easy so there is no mistaking what i said

[rustic mantle]

you chose to interact with me in this situation, chieftan

[wanton obsidian]

Doesn't work 🥹 same with caps or not

I'm getting the same damn account

[bleak gazelle]

guess you're a fake idler

[sharp mauve]

This one?

[wanton obsidian]

No way is my account not legitimate 🥲

[rustic mantle]

What about Vinny? do they deserve direct rudeness or patience and compassion?

[wanton obsidian]

I use Gmail

[rustic mantle]

Didn't mean to assume your gender. my bad.

[junior arrow]

ban time

[sharp mauve]

Can ppl be civil at least?

[junior arrow]

basil just stop trying to make a mountain out of an ant hill

[rustic mantle]

i just blocked them as to avoid future conflict. im an adult, i dont have time to argue on discord

[bleak gazelle]

I don't think they were trying to argue, but you do you

Vinny, what are you trying to login to?

[wanton obsidian]

The cogtimizer I just wanted to test it out

[rustic mantle]

time spent contemplating others intentions is time wasted

[wanton obsidian]

But it won't let me

[rapid shale]

dont worry about it, the best cogtimizer is the image I gave

[wanton obsidian]

When I put my first idleon acc it gave me another account

[junior arrow]

100% they unblock me to check the weekly boss rotation and block again

[wanton obsidian]

Yes but idc about it I'm just panicking why it's not showing my account

[sharp mauve]

Correct email?

[wanton obsidian]

Nah the cogtimizer only asked for first idleon username

Didn't ask for email

[bleak gazelle]

when was the last time you updated your public profile for IE/IT?

[wanton obsidian]

Good question

[rapid shale]

if you can log into IE/IT you can always paste your json it provides

[wanton obsidian]

Oh so that's the json thing they kept asking

Json as in the ie link??

[rapid shale]

when you hit raw data while logged into IE it will show a bunch of weird data, and say copy raw JSON

click copy, then you can paste that

[wanton obsidian]

Ahh ok got it

[rapid shale]

Does your IE auto review bot work for your name?

[wanton obsidian]

Yeah cogtomizer is sht

[gentle furnace]

done for now

[wanton obsidian]

Can I borrow your poisonic elder for 1 day? 🥰

[gentle furnace]

tell lava

[sly cedar]

im so jealous

mine is like lvl 19, not even strong enough to use yet

i want to get trimmed slots 😦

[wanton obsidian]

Mine is at lvl 32 rn

My construction currently

[gentle furnace]

soon

[sharp mauve]

Not enough pointers for con lv 300, but looks better than the most I ever saw.

[wanton obsidian]

I'm not there yet, I haven't invested time with getting better cogs

[rapid shale]

shouldnt your BR be a bit higher with those con levels?

[gentle furnace]

my summoning is bad

[wanton obsidian]

But-

Oh summoning not worship

Woopss

[gentle furnace]

missing a few cons speed

[rapid shale]

yea thatll do it, I almost have the same BR with DKs at level 930

But im done summoning

[gentle furnace]

yeah last purple give a lot

[rapid shale]

Plus the multis from charm and artifact 🤤

[gentle furnace]

i have sov lantern but no charm

[wanton obsidian]

I'm stuck in summoning how are U guys so far

[gentle furnace]

rng

[rapid shale]

been in w6 since the day it started, and pushed mana heavy, plus a lot of rng yes

plus a little 💳 for the familiars

[gentle furnace]

"A LOT OF RNG"

[wanton obsidian]

Anyways.. should I research?

[gentle furnace]

genie has got me stuck for over a month lol

[gentle furnace]

should did it earlier

[rapid shale]

always hit reasearch as much as possible

dont wait

[wanton obsidian]

Oh-

Noted

[gentle furnace]

should i spend my atoms on mage is best or hocus chopus or severapurple

[rapid shale]

I dunno, Ive been getting them all to 95% with my gold stopwatches this last week

[gentle furnace]

im using gold stopwatches rn

[rapid shale]

I would probably do mage is best and severapurple before going back to hocus

[gentle furnace]

they're all at 95% already

[rapid shale]

oh

[gentle furnace]

severapurple at 97%

[rapid shale]

yea, im not sure i just finished 95% purple and am doing other cauldrons now

[gentle furnace]

or should i do orange bubble next

[rapid shale]

im doing orange rn, just got shimmeron to 95%, now gonna do Warriors rule -> Multorange (sorry i messed up bubble names)

[gentle furnace]

ig ill do something similiar

[round surge]

Anyone has an idea when is the next update?

[junior arrow]

do you see any info from lava about it? cause if you dont neither do we

[wanton obsidian]

Anyone knows what this meme is about?

Give me some history lesson plz

[lethal aspen]

🇪 🇸 🇨

[wanton obsidian]

Heh?

[junior arrow]

its about previous exploits that people abused

dont worry about it

[barren shore]

w6 question?

best way to farm kruk tooth? normal chaotic or sacrilegious? have like 0 keys atm

[dusky hedge]

around what level should I swap from using boulders (leverl 37) to poisions (level 14)

[red scarab]

Is there a general rule as to when we ought to 100m death note mobs?

[rapid shale]

level 30 posionic Ibelive is a good time to switch to those set ups

[dusky hedge]

dam so i got like another month with my measly building speed

[rapid shale]

when you can use your BB to schow them in a reasonable amount of time

you can use your other chars too, so Ig you can start earlier if tyou want

[red scarab]

Thank you for the tip. Do people use BM active to push kill count on nobi to complete death note?

[granite grove]

bubo

the only reason for BM active is for pushing shiny pet level and to level BM itself

[crimson night]

should i make anvil tab 6 or should i wait

[gentle furnace]

If normal tooth then normal kruk is better imi

[barren shore]

Ye i was wonder that most key effe

[unreal yacht]

Bro i fucking screamed... like... bro... fi..fi..finally...

[sharp mauve]

Same as u just now, but none spawned for me rn.

[unreal yacht]

lmao mannn i bet

im just glad i dont have to collect dna forever

[tribal urchin]

should i hold onto guild giftboxes for jewels/chips?

[chilly parcel]

You need like 2 of them or something, check wiki for recipes and save only as much as you need, be sure to check other recipes so you can prepare for other recipes. When i got first choco chip i was like 1 day off to get it, cuz I didnt push my spices before.

[hollow gazelle]

Chem is like a distant dream to me

[sharp mauve]

Around May this year. ||Lol why the rotation looks so busted, we got like 20 Potato Chips later this year.||

[graceful fern]

Sad

[sharp mauve]

"world 3 haters"

[tribal urchin]

bro should really add more chips and jewels to the rotation at this point

as in 5 and 2 per week

[sharp mauve]

It is as busted as Stardew Valley RNG system.

[tribal urchin]

yeah outrageous tbh

[sharp mauve]

Equip 1 per player 💀

I dunno, Google probably don't approve an update to the rotation.

[graceful fern]

Also should i get shaman or wizard for that guy? (my lab slave aka 9 character)

[sharp mauve]

No 2nd Shaman

[graceful fern]

Why not?

[sharp mauve]

Not that helpful once u unlocked all bubbles, and u don't need double CC

[tribal urchin]

plus lab gets easier in w6

[sharp mauve]

If you never draw a Doot, the 2nd ES is very helpful

Even if u draw one it is still useful

[graceful fern]

Is it useful for the souls gains and divinity god?

[sharp mauve]

After everyone got Worship Lv 100, they could take turns to Siphone to balance out the worship levels. So Vman always have a chance to catch up.

[zinc torrent]

so charge syphon or individual worship, which is more souls w/ food?

[sharp mauve]

Individual first, let ES worship souls that gain less XP per soul.

When ur ES Worship is overleveled u can't get more souls anyway.

[tribal urchin]

just made a slight upgrade 🙂

[sinful aurora]

As long as you remember to crystal countdown every worship level, it should be impossible to catch up to vman.

[sharp mauve]

I am being too paranoid about Worship lv.

[zinc torrent]

158 lab lv tho

[sinful aurora]

Thats a large difference. Dont forget each level costs more exp too.

But a little paranoia abour worship isnt bad.

[lethal aspen]

vman dont do anything for lab anyway

[sinful aurora]

Grinding for 2100 mastery.

[zinc torrent]

im just at the point where all skilling cards are passive

[sinful aurora]

And by grinding i mean only bubo.

[nimble trench]

I just got my last eldritch artifact!!!!!!! What do I do now with sailing? My plan it to just focus my slowest ships and increase there speed for a while.

[lethal aspen]

get sov

[nimble trench]

I'm getting about 10T a day jade so I'm a bit off that yet.

[tribal urchin]

ive never gotten a rare drop from events, am i doing something wrong

[lethal aspen]

need to pray to lava

[tribal urchin]

every day for a couple months now 8x dr no drop 😦

[lethal aspen]

your dr doesnt matter, only the one from rando island + party size

[zinc torrent]

bad rng, ive only got frog obol so far

[lethal aspen]

the only 2 good ones are the axe and pick anyway

until u get the star talent

[whole slate]

look at this shit 0.3 from 35k dna

hardest part of getting jewels imo is spices

[tribal urchin]

hrm whats your best way of using candies at w6 range? I think i could use them to get maestro up to 150 and get him training for voidboy quest, or i could use them for W5 boss keys to get sailing speed cards

[whole slate]

need to work on my vman some more tbh

[zinc torrent]

hmm worth 2nd linking with ES?

[whole slate]

yes

[zinc torrent]

getting skilling done and cards

[lethal aspen]

turn this on it'll save your life

[lethal aspen]

you have like no candies

[zinc torrent]

when claiming so it always boost one of the following?

[whole slate]

yep

[tribal urchin]

these are todays haul

[whole slate]

except for candy omni is th reason why ppl have 1k refinery rank

[lethal aspen]

what you losing for it tho

[lethal aspen]

and doot

[zinc torrent]

isee hvnt touch elephant

[whole slate]

im dooted

[zinc torrent]

ill link 1es, other is on harri

[sharp mauve]

Ghost ping?

[sharp mauve]

Ah I see, rip lol

[whole slate]

havent worked on him until recently

[lethal aspen]

rip my free companion, another week

[zinc torrent]

just noticed breeding goddamn ive been missing out by not linking to this guy for a while

[lethal aspen]

i dont think your losing much with breeding lol

[zinc torrent]

lv34 60% almost shinnies

[lethal aspen]

just egg it all

thats the only way u get exp anyway

[zinc torrent]

yea all my tix gone to w4 colo

[lethal aspen]

breeding too annoying to level, why cant it be less painful

[zinc torrent]

yea too high exp and hard to get more breeding exp

[lethal aspen]

i cant be bothered to use these lol

Should probably do it for the skill mastery but so annoying

[lethal aspen]

you been upgrading the 'nothing' upgrade right

[zinc torrent]

yea

[thin lark]

Elephant good Two Goats were Omni until a little while ago, so 7/10. All 7 in lab (dootless)

[zinc torrent]

that looks juicy

ive been sleeping on elephant

[karmic nacelle]

It look so complicated to me since I had doot day 1, gods look painful to manage

[lethal aspen]

nah

[zinc torrent]

not that diff but annoying

[lethal aspen]

just turn brain off and bear + nobi on pushers

just pretend gods don't exist

[thin lark]

It's nice for my playstyle. Which is 1-2 afk pushers, 1 active, the rest in lab with an extra to make doing daily stuff like Refinery more simple if I want to keep nodes up.

[lethal aspen]

or go back into lab jail and forget gods exist either

[karmic nacelle]

Doot does it but with benefit

[zinc torrent]

es pusher?

[lethal aspen]

i hope you people arent neglecting gmush tho

[karmic nacelle]

My 3 archer doing some rampage for a week there now

[zinc torrent]

rn yea still lab-cryosleep

[thin lark]

Everyone is pusher, I try to rotate the afk, start with the good ones like BB and BM. Active on the Bubo/ES/DK as needed.

[karmic nacelle]

Active BM IS future

[lethal aspen]

active bb you mean

[zinc torrent]

im still lvling to div 50, 9 mantra 1vita

[lethal aspen]

bring pre-w4 back

or even pre w3, when barb was best

[karmic nacelle]

Active BB is for people that hate life

[lethal aspen]

imagine getting more than 1 kill per mob

[thin lark]

Get 5x KPK, spawn 100x less enemies

[karmic nacelle]

Even with full mob respawn bb IS a afk killer

[lethal aspen]

hey i've been playing this game for 3 years now, pretty clear i hate life 😦

[zinc torrent]

nxt upgrade of BB - Death Scythe gonna 1kill = 1m kill

[karmic nacelle]

Damn only 4 month there

[lethal aspen]

deathbringer will summon ghosts

[thin lark]

That'd be cool

[lethal aspen]

i swear that was one of the ideas for dk

lemme find the lava post

[thin lark]

But summons is kinda BM's thing

[karmic nacelle]

But my account is overboosted so I already ahead from most f2p longterm

[whole slate]

tell me your dooted without telling me your dooted

[lethal aspen]

where bagur

[karmic nacelle]

Why would you link

[whole slate]

he doesnt look as cool as kruk

[whole slate]

cuz im dooted

[karmic nacelle]

Well when u have doot

[thin lark]

Hat game weak

[lethal aspen]

#💖future-content-blog message
Lol i found this

[karmic nacelle]

You dont need to link

[whole slate]

laziness

[sharp mauve]

For flexing purpose lol

[whole slate]

i have a crows perch in my storage cuz it doesnt look as cool as the classic

[karmic nacelle]

Well I never linked to a god once

My char believe in selfship

[lethal aspen]

#💖future-content-blog message
good ol respawn mechs

Give any of those to bb and we'll be happy

[main thicket]

For gaming I just collect whenever I log in right

13% chance to upgrade every 8 hrs and not much of a boost

[thin lark]

Are you just starting with Gaming? Then yeah, daily is fine.

Daily is fine after that too It will get faster though. Just keep clicking till you can't usually. Spend DNA for new mutations often. More rolls > Higher %

[obtuse brook]

Should i be using this guy?

[sharp mauve]

When u sleep overnight, u could turn it off.

Or keep it to pray for more evolution cycles.

[zinc torrent]

kitsune for ranking shell, when afk for long times better off imo

[soft crescent]

I've read that for divinity you're supposed to use the lower percentage option until the high percentage option changes to 100%. I've tried this a few times now and the higher option hasn't changed at all. Does this still work?

[zinc torrent]

it does and ur just getting unlucky

[soft crescent]

Ok, thank you

[whole slate]

perfectly balanced

[bleak shore]

what does krunk's tooth do

[hollow gazelle]

Very toothy

[pale crag]

[blissful rampart]

Is it me or is ES easier to up damage on than other elite classes? I switched from BB main to ES late w5

[zinc torrent]

stamps

more stamps than vials

[blissful rampart]

I've got my stamps as far as I can really get them atm. Got my first atom a few days back so I'm waiting for the 90% cost reduction. Cash wise I'm not getting more than blue coins per hour and want to get the bribes and cooking tables unlocked

[steady spruce]

SB tends to end up with the biggest numbers

BB is just bad

[zinc torrent]

more stamps unlock in piggy bank = es dmg
u dont use bubo/dk on w5 citrus/wurms? or even w6

[blissful rampart]

Yeah, I need to spend more time on my SB but I'm pushing 1mil wh kills. BB pushed to Tremur Worms but I pulled him back for w1 chows.

Bubo is kinda neglected ngl, their damage has always been kinda middling so I stuck them in divinity and cube wood farming for the mats since my vman can't push 5 yet

None of my stuff is optimised icl lol

[zinc torrent]

u dont push with vman, voidspeedrun unlocks ur furthest map

he always skilling

[blissful rampart]

True, Vman is currently on birch wood for alch

[zinc torrent]

what map do u active afk?

plat coins is waay low for active on w5

[blissful rampart]

Cheesy Nubs at the moment on my ES (22.5-57.5M damage) for the quest

[zinc torrent]

hvnt build coins % and im getting luster coins in citrus mobs

[blissful rampart]

Not sure what I'm doing wrong tbh. I feel miles behind where I should be

[zinc torrent]

dk is also good here

[sharp glacier]

You dont need to be linked for minor bonus right?

[zinc torrent]

ithink so

[blissful rampart]

True

[unkempt musk]

i lost 3k defense out of nowhere

i didnt do nothing

now i cant afk wurm

[lethal aspen]

nice hat

[unkempt quest]

Prayer?

[graceful fern]

Should i harvest, or wait to Unlock another evolution?

I want to get the bit buff from the log book

[pliant ferry]

please please please please..... it can happen right?

[pliant ferry]

The 5th evolution is relatively easy to get. 6+ are impossible odds

[bleak gazelle]

oops, forgot to check for a bit

[clever narwhal]

Have been waiting for over a week now, 20/20 sprouts, still no t6 xd might not be worth it

[pliant ferry]

I think gaming is a sham until you get the equinox shovel upgrade anyway 🤣

[clever narwhal]

Oh and I've been rolling nuggets for ages too, still on 21.4k haven't had an upgrade in over a month

[bleak gazelle]

aww yiss

[clever narwhal]

On top of that I'm mega stalled in gaming, snail is unobtainable still, and I've opened thousands of chests on cloud island for the weatherbook eldritch artifact, but no such luck

[simple wadi]

A month? Oh you sweet summer child. Veteran players can tell you the horror stories of waiting 6+ months between upgrades.

[clever narwhal]

F

[echo crag]

arent there players that still dont have chem after all this time still

[sharp mauve]

2 ppl got chem today lol

[pliant ferry]

Shovel upgrade is what makes gaming a real skill

[unreal yacht]

just keep reseraching you going get it in no time

legit stop caring about getting chem and just 0.01 whenever u can

[pliant ferry]

harvest all - research - rinse/lather/repeat

[unreal yacht]

fr i stopped caring and got it out of nowhere Lmao

[hollow gazelle]

its been like 6 months now 💀 I even have snail level 17 and mil red bits but still no chem

[gentle furnace]

equinox dream so easy

[bleak gazelle]

reroll

[lost tendon]

been doing that for a while 😦

[lost tendon]

damn impressive snail without chem

[supple tangle]

I got my nugget up to 46 today from 21, really hoping I can hit a hundred sometime this week.

[clever narwhal]

I pray for you

[echo crag]

best way to improve the nugget is to unlock equinox and get the nugget upgrade from there

[supple tangle]

Equinox going to be awhile they want me to take a 1 million sample and my absolute best is 21k… womp womp

[junior dune]

If you're in W5 and you can't get more than 21k sample something seems wrong

[nova lynx]

Why do you say that? My best sample is 18k logs but I haven't resampled in a bit. I know of a few ways to boost - guy is missing void hatchet and maestro isn't higher woodcut (yet) so I can't get those just yet.
That sample number sounds pretty reasonable for someone who didn't start before w5 and get to mass upgrade stuff before hitting w5

I'm also just barely into w5 (dumped most of my people at divinty altar like 2 days ago). I know I can up my rates with divinity worship resampling too

[round surge]

is this optimal for sampling?

[nova lynx]

Anyone got a clue on why Toolbox says gaming Spade Box is 750k but it really costs me 3M to buy it in game? (I'm sitting at ~1M bits rn and planned to save for it)

[junior dune]

I too started after W5 and was in that state of progression a bit before W6 came and think my logs were at about 100k then. I may be misremembering but I feel like it's likely something easy was missed when sampling. It could be not using food or cards or having a terrible axe, not using star sign, not having the big bubble and a bunch more.

[gritty hornet]

I didnt start until world 5 and i have a 6 mil oak print my guy

[junior dune]

It's very easy to miss something especially if you haven't tried maxing samples before or used a checklist

[nova lynx]

I'm not saying you can't have high prints if you started after w5. I'm saying on reddit and discord a ton of peeps claim sample rates or bubbles or anything should be through the roof for people entering worlds (w3, w4, w5, etc.) when in reality it's very skewed since the newbs didn't sit in w3 waiting for w4 to release and farmed bubbles 24/9.
I've been pretty good about following general advice/guides as f2p and most of the rando disc advice makes it seem like I somehow am light years behind where I should be.

@junior dune 100% easy to forget things. I rarely resample with food cause I'm dumb/lazy. And like I said, I know I haven't resampled with my divinity setup nor with maestro as highest rank woodcut. I think those alone would push me to 60k+ log samples.

[junior dune]

Yeah, there's definitely some bad advice here since most people here take the game way too seriously (me included) and a lot of people don't remember how it was.

[supple tangle]

I’m working on getting insect god up for increased efficiency then gonna do a round of resamples, got the artifact that makes them bigger when you don’t resample so I don’t resample often. Just wish fishing samples weren’t so awful all the time.

[nova lynx]

I just remember in w3 when my accuracy was falling behind near end of the world, disc told me my bubbles were complete ass even though I had been spamming FMJ and Shaquaracy as much as possible with my other noobs 24/7 grinding the bloats and fruitflies AND sampling them. When your top fisher can only sample 2 bloats/hr at the start of w3 it ain't worth much. 🤣

And the advice ain't too bad, but I do think it's hard for people to remember how limited their accounts were earlier on. Esp if they ever got to sit around end game before the next world released.

[nova lynx]

lmk how that goes. I'll probably end up resampling sometime this week so I'm curious how your #s change.

I think linking to snake gives 30% afk gain so that should help as well.

@junior dune is there a generic "sample" checklist somewhere to follow? just curious what all I might be missing that I have unlocked at this point.

[junior dune]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084953188647583819 is probably the best generic one. There are a bunch of more specific ones as well but those are mostly end game

Like what the bis gear is won't be that relevant for a while

[icy pulsar]

i had 4 mil godshard per minute sample in w1 3 days after i started playing idk why y’all got anything less

[nova lynx]

lol yeah bis gear isn't a question at all for me. But wow that checklist is longer than I thought... also am I reading that right - doing the daily quests gives you SKILL EFFICIENCY?

[junior dune]

Yeah it counts for the studious quester star talent. It is .5% or something though

[steady herald]

Hey guys, is there any way to push the chance of getting new plant types in gaming? i still missing the chemical one since months 😦

[icy pulsar]

evolution chance in gaming

[junior dune]

Try often and use the rock

[echo crag]

sacrifice first born to rng god and hope it appease it

[junior dune]

There's not much more you can do

[bleak gazelle]

another 50, another no hat

[icy pulsar]

did you at least get best hat?

[bleak gazelle]

800ish boxes and only these

[icy pulsar]

strawberry hat

[bleak gazelle]

i'll take the strawberry

[frigid swift]

you can have the pretty pink bow if you want lol

[bleak gazelle]

already had that one, but thanks

[strong nexus]

i want more card to turn passif bonus there so much card that are useless like the one giving +x agi or mana regen or movement speed

[strong nexus]

i want it

[distant mirage]

I've been wondering, is rushing to W6 as good as rushing W5? I've got goat god, just need to wait a couple days to unlink so i can put 9 toons in the lab (cause i accidentally wasted my 2 after getting him) I can get like 11k k/h and i'm on purgatory skulls rn

[echo crag]

yes, the w6 skill bonus are pretty op and its passive town stuff you can do while doing soemthing else

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, just make sure you have the 30-80m damage for w5 boss

[distant mirage]

yeah i'm good with that

[junior dune]

I felt rushing W6 was less impactful then W5 since you won't be able to progress much in farming and sneaking for a while, but don't snooze on it. It's always good to get to a new world quickly and there are definitely some early buffs that you will get quickly

[bleak gazelle]

But that's exactly why you should get it started early

Time gated plants

Time gated sneaks

[echo crag]

these are the first 8 bonus from sneaking

can see most of them are pretty big boost

[junior dune]

The issue is that you won't have any of the bubbles, stamps and vials making your crop evo chance trash and low stealth

[nova lynx]

How can I rush w5 -> w6 when suggmas destroy my face? 🙃

[distant mirage]

yeah, i kinda shot myself in the foot a little bit by not hard farming con exp from the start and not taking a ton of advantage from CC when i could

but i've been fixing it

got my samples updated so i can just let it ride and get those sweet sweet alchemy gains

[echo crag]

becasue of the time gating on those skill, earliest you start working on them, the better you'll get even w/o other skills to support them

[bleak gazelle]

alchemy/stamps > equinox/meals > cards/sets/starsigns/po box/rift

[unreal yacht]

rushing w6 worth

[nova lynx]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. But OK. But that means I gotta go unlock equinox and start greenstacking stuff

[frigid swift]

superbit OP. lol went from 16b cook speed to 80b

guess i should go redo some waves soon get a bigger jump

[bleak gazelle]

i should probably do that too

[bright meteor]

x14 DR on Dk wohoo

[distant mirage]

YOOO LETS GOOO got evergreen on a .1% chance

[frigid swift]

lol ace we do our waves like we do our samples. once a year

[bright meteor]

I never do waves

I could do the w6

[echo crag]

waves takes too much time to do, makes sampling look like a breeze

[distant mirage]

i want to wait to get the t5 evolve on these plants but i also want to get my evergreen going for a quicker bit mult

[junior dune]

I won't do waves until the golden stopwatch time is over even though I probably should do it soon

[sage zealot]

is there like

anything that can make unlocking vials easier?

[nova lynx]

max out RNG and spam drop the items so you get like 10 items that get 15 rolls each

[bleak gazelle]

makes life...easy

[sage zealot]

huh

[junior dune]

Hold shift to quick drop

[sage zealot]

because of

gamer moment right? cool

[nova lynx]

Max out attempst and RNG

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, just pull out stacks of 1 and shift click to spam drop them

[sage zealot]

yeah i have that

[nova lynx]

Yeah stacks of 1 and you spam drop them, you'll get more rolls than 1 at a time

[short sparrow]

150k cc seconds at wurms, my best so far I think

[sage zealot]

just spam clicked an entire inventory tab's worth and nothing...

LMAO im so unlucky

[short sparrow]

yeah rng sucks

[bleak gazelle]

it be like that

and some days you unlock 2-3

[junior dune]

In my experience it's about 50/50 if you get a vial with that method

Much better than otherwise

[distant mirage]

yeah, i got like 3 vials last night with that method it was beautiful ;-;

[bleak gazelle]

i'm unfortunately at the spot where i can't get any of my remaining w6 vials

well, i probably could get 2

[echo crag]

which one you missing still

[junior dune]

Same

[bronze lichen]

can anyone help me the cattleprod quest?

[junior dune]

Sure I have both P and S

What world?

[bronze lichen]

im w6 town dice 19

did you wrote in clan chat i didnt saw anythig?

[junior dune]

Crap I did

That explains why you didn't answer

[bleak gazelle]

same as trial, though I should probably roll godshard bar

[sand cobalt]

Hello I’m trying to decide if I should make my 10th char SB since I already have 2 DK 2 ES or should I just wait for the new classes meta

[junior dune]

I personally think it's pretty safe to do SB

I doubt we will get new classes that aren't compatible with current setups

Having 3 of each class also seems nice and if BM somehow becomes better I bet there will be a swap token available

[bleak gazelle]

[hollow gazelle]

Ye and 1.2 mil Nugget

[strong nexus]

so many mushroom to kill to grind vial

[frigid swift]

gross. get that vman or BM print going 😛

im so close to 13 on snake vial. then i can finally start turning in statues

[strong nexus]

i also need to kill 1b of evry mob now that i have the rift skull bonus

the time i finish that i will have so much statut

[pliant ferry]

Soon(tm)

[frigid swift]

i just got a nug upgrade yesterday took forever lol. i still need more!

[pliant ferry]

I'm gonna get a 6mil and all will be good for at least a week

[frigid swift]

lol i would die for a 6m

[strong nexus]

what upgrade i should prioritize so i can get green bit

[pliant ferry]

Nugget and snail are by far the biggest upgrades. The rest all just keep even and slowly keep ugprading all of them

[frigid swift]

started using my chems because 15th slot is purple bits and i need 15 for equinox when i get it

need 7 more shrine levels to get my next equinox unlock.

[pliant ferry]

🫢

9 years later

[thorn kindle]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53658862550_ac0ef88588_o.png

[frigid swift]

lol feel that

[thorn kindle]

it's been a loooong time

[pliant ferry]

incoming 19 ball right lean

[thorn kindle]

AGAIN

[pliant ferry]

incomoing 24 ball left lean

[thorn kindle]

I did 15 right this time lol

[pliant ferry]

Lava has a notification to his phone everytime someone gets that so he can laugh at few we get

[thorn kindle]

bruhhhhh

[frigid swift]

lava gets notifications every time a dice roll comes up then laughs as he slides us a 1 or 5

[thorn kindle]

3, 6 in a roll

[teal inlet]

i feel like i am getting 3s more than anything else lol

[thorn kindle]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53658869245_0b26bb7475_o.png last ball let me down 😦

[limber shuttle]

Yo i need help URGENTLY i have screenshots to prove i had the exact same stats. Basically earlier, i was resetting my stats and i was shocked to sée m'y dmg lower when i just had better stat layout After resetting over and over i went back to my original stats that i had screenshoted and instead of doing 54 mil dmg on Crit i do 48 mil dmg (i have sc of the stats before and After resetting (so exact same) and havent changed a single thing bec i was on same device

[thorn kindle]

lol, post screenshots

[limber shuttle]

Sure one sec

[pliant ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/aladdin-start-panicking-gif-14977325

[bleak gazelle]

i've never hit purple bits, but I've got 15 slots

[frigid swift]

-insert swipe emoji-

[pliant ferry]

lol 6k hp difference.... says nothing changed

[limber shuttle]

And the stats are the exact same down to thé exact nulber cos i was wondering if it was a bug

[limber shuttle]

No thats just alchemy and stamps i did along thé way

Oh m'y dmg should bé higher too cos i did stamps a Tiny bit

But same cards etc etc

[bleak gazelle]

don't think there's any cash shop stuff for gaming slots

[frigid swift]

Theres about 40 things that go into your crit dmg that could be affecting this.

[limber shuttle]

Crit dmg IS exact same 2.13x

[pliant ferry]

There about 39 other things that go into crit dmg

[bleak gazelle]

oh, i misread that, lul, oops

[limber shuttle]

Still IS 2.13x ??

[fair coral]

Where "firmly grasp it"?

[pliant ferry]

What we are all trying to say, is without seeing your account there is nothing we can do. Still screenshots in this game do not come close to showing anything.

[limber shuttle]

The first screenshots was 20 minutes ago bro i havent changed 39 Crit dmg

[limber shuttle]

Yeah but liké has this happened to you cos nothing changed on my stats or Armor or cards etc

[pliant ferry]

As it was pointed out, you arne't even buffed in the 2nd picture

[bleak gazelle]

honestly don't remember the last time i paid attention to on-screen damage numbers

[limber shuttle]

Wait thé Crit dmg from divine intervention IS not permanent ?

OHHHHHHHHHHHH

I am SOOOO dumb

[pliant ferry]

😶

[limber shuttle]

💀

[pliant ferry]

step 1 - click auto
step 2 - profit

[granite grove]

its effectively permanent while active though, because uptime is higher than cooldown

[dull rain]

13.75x DR and 16 hrs of active on DK still cant get the 1/5M recipe. Is there any faster way i can get these recipes?

[granite grove]

wait harder

[bleak gazelle]

tbh, divine intervention should be one of the last talents to level up unless you're in megacrit range

[frigid swift]

kill faster

[granite grove]

or get DR, or come back and grind it later

at least for me, i passively farm recipe via afks while my active time goes to DK/bubo

[short sparrow]

harder better faster stronger

[pliant ferry]

Proven fastest way

get 20 dr 😄

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, i should probably 5 star my doot card

[frigid swift]

i should work on my doot card. its only 1 star lol

[bleak gazelle]

oof, only 6% more DR

maybe it wasn't worth

[short sparrow]

Every bit counts

[pliant ferry]

no no we are talking about DR not gaming. DR doesn't affect bits

hahah.... ha.... thank you thank you

[short sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/chomp-bite-arm-gif-7083692912057941766

[bleak gazelle]

what i really need is more storage space

[frigid swift]

facts

and lucky lads to be stackable at this point lol

[bleak gazelle]

having said that, i should probably just fix this

[pliant ferry]

🤢

[bleak gazelle]

i'm not quite sure why so many rings are in the chest and not on people

[dull rain]

Why

[bleak gazelle]

lazy

[dull rain]

i mean why keep trash

[bleak gazelle]

whoa now

there is no trash, not even this beautiful thing

[frigid swift]

imagine having the steam necklace :C

[granite grove]

need that +1 slab tho

[pliant ferry]

just trashed a 70k hamburger because I'm click happy 🫠

[frigid swift]

lol

[strong nexus]

6m green cap by inventory so i need 3,x inventory for my next vial

at leas its faster than trying to drop octopus balls

[pliant ferry]

Can always buy it from cash shop 🤣

[strong nexus]

its actually a pretty cute colorisation too bad you cant repair it and use it as a skin

[frigid swift]

weapon skins are the new prem hats lol

[bright meteor]

15k class exp statues...

[pliant ferry]

we finally did it

[clever maple]

any reason to keep this ?

[pliant ferry]

keep

everything

forever

[clever maple]

mostly asking for the star talent, if i sell it do i lose the bonus ?

[pliant ferry]

I am 99% it does go down.... only becuase mine says 1 and I know I have found more than 1

[clever maple]

yeah i was wondering, bc i found the meteor ring too, but still at 1 found

[pliant ferry]

I have both items from poop man, obols... I wonder what counts as a rando rare

oohhh RANDOM duh

Can confirm I've only found 1 of the things listed..... and I got rid of it

and I have 1 still. So you are safe

[clever maple]

still confused

[pliant ferry]

Not sure about your ring. But I only found the frog obol, and I trashed it a long time ago

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Random_Events according to this list

[clever maple]

so trash = loss in bonus ?

[pliant ferry]

no loss in bonus

[clever maple]

im gonna test if i have to have them in the inventory/storage and not equipped

nope still 1

[pliant ferry]

maybe you had the ring before that talent existed?

[clever maple]

pretty sure i got it after, mostly it didnt change to 2 after the helmet

[digital meadow]

I have 100M but can't get wurm wumbo achievement is it bugged

[clever maple]

exactly 100M

you probably have 100.00.001 or something like that

[pliant ferry]

Best way is to take your biggest carry, and take out increments to get exactly 100m and put them in another slot

[digital meadow]

Great design

[pliant ferry]

as long as ONE slot is exactly 100m it counts

[clever maple]

there is a easy way too

[pliant ferry]

I mean.... the design of having an M instead of showing me 1000 digits is pretty good IMO

[clever maple]

cloud save the game > go on IT > check and remove the extra slices

[digital meadow]

IE* ? You mean

[clever maple]

there is IE and IT

i use both

IE (Idleon Efficiency) IT (Idleon Toolbox)

is about to happen

[pliant ferry]

28/75? 🤣

[clever maple]

the other are in the archer inv

[pliant ferry]

end game achievement. fill entire storage with luckier lads

[clever maple]

🧠

[pliant ferry]

send it to the suggestions box

[clever maple]

i was gonna suggest a duplication glitch for easier gaming experience 🙂

[pliant ferry]

Whats the real difference between 10 luckier lads and 1000

[frigid swift]

2 0's

[clever maple]

2 0's but 0's are worth zero, so no real problem

1 of 10 luckier lad is about to be crafter 🎉

[strong nexus]

is luckier lad worthy?

[clever maple]

50% drop rate + 5% luk

[pliant ferry]

Depends on lucky lad drop rate you are able to achieve

[clever maple]

+50 luck

[pliant ferry]

don't hold on to 40 of them if you are only getting 1 a month

wait until you can get them reliably and then start saving

[clever maple]

aka when you have decent dr and can bubo in wurm

[pliant ferry]

55 DR or bust

[bleak gazelle]

i mean, you just throw them all onto your last alts so they don't take up stash space

[clever maple]

the only answer

[pliant ferry]

but then where do I keep all my other stuff

[bleak gazelle]

should i?

[pliant ferry]

that's what started my doot adventure

I accepted my fate and kept going until I got it 🤣

[frigid swift]

mine is kinda lame. but ill prob still get it

[clever maple]

you are technically 1 roll away from doot

[bleak gazelle]

rammy helm is nice

don't forget to drop and pickup your card packs for slab

[pliant ferry]

slab junkies are worse than DR junkies

[clever maple]

bruh i got extra agi 😠, my bubo wont get any extra wis

[short sparrow]

Every time I do that I get irrationally worried it's going to disappear

[pliant ferry]

drop card pack, panic click so fast that it causes your game to crash

[strong nexus]

does the extra agi rng?

[clever maple]

yes, from archer skill

[pliant ferry]

I wouldn't want to craft that until I had talent 900 for archer

[strong nexus]

no i mean went you craft that title does the stat you saying is extra change?

[clever maple]

the base stats are 50 luk, 50% dr, 5% luk, then if you craft with your archer there is a % that the crafting shows a yellow/orange particle that mean you got extra stats

but is only 12 extra stat at max

[strong nexus]

ah i see

the joy of trying to min max for stat that you wont event need

[clever maple]

so that luckier lad that i crafter not only activate the skill but it rolled the 1-12 extra stats (at max)

[strong nexus]

its kinda a lucky lad

[clever maple]

fr

now i have to work on bb and vman to kill nh kruk

[strong nexus]

at the sa me time agi is acurancy for mage so its not that much of a lost

and it boost crit chance for more chance to mega crit

[clever maple]

i think 12 of any stats isnt that good if not for dmg

the only good thing is for the extra money from alchemy of 250 of every stat

[strong nexus]

whit all the multiplier in this game 12 can give more than you expect

[somber sundial]

0%?

nvm