#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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xp gain if you're trying to get the most trapping xp
i meant more for the other skills
like mining / lumber / catching
sorry about that
fishing can be cheesed pretty easy on the island so im not too worried about that one
low efficiency can effect the xp gain on catching, mostly through using the prayer or his ability
yeah. im not sure which to stack
you'd have to play around with it, I think if I'm catching in w5 I leave the prayer off but use the ability
my catching efficiency is pretty high though
What does "Scaled Skill Efficiency" from Nobisect actually do?
Am i missing something in reading weekly bosses guides? I tried to click the corresponding options from left to right but didnt even hit misc full reset and wasted a Day. 
you have to meet the requirements as well
I’m new to gaming, when should I be collecting the plants?
Nice pfp
Its not about requirements its about not hitting resets maybe i am blind for not doing it correctly 2 times in a row.
are you sure you're using the right pattern?
Well i managed to fail it somehow while clicking 2 7 times in a row. Maybe i still managed to do it incorrectly, but i do think i hit the first reset.
Anyway i guess i just managed to make a mistake somehow.
At this point though i'm tempted to do it on my own as on the first day i left the boss with 4k hp on last life just clicking personally.
probably the case since that's the right pattern, at least I'm using the same dated one just the trophy run one
I need two people for doot can someone help me ? Im warrior
honestly I've had a few times where I"ve lost track of where I am in those
Y'all think tab 6 will cost nullo salts?
Hope not
Same but I'm ready if it does (maybe)
not gonna lie, void bars being a real issue for me atm
Hm, my build rate in construction went from 4b to 2b, it says 4b on toolbox but even if i check on any of my warrior classes in game it says 2b, anyone know how to fix it?
I need to run some sb to get them up again
On mobile it is caused by overflow and you needed to lower your build rate ylto prevent it
Well, another case of overflow yet again, thanks for the info tho 
Finally its time to cook. I feel like its possible to hit 100k cranium here even before you will have enough damage for oranges.
Is scim equinox upgrade really just straight up +130% multiplicative damage with cranium?
yes
Damn, alright, that might really help me deal with 31 rift.
yea its a huge dmg boost
How do you get 150 on plunderous flag at molti's if its suppose to cause spawns at 100....
Too bad i'll be waiting for that bar to fill more than a week
Remove the vman talent
i guess you just gotta take the vman enhancement off
I am really starting to feel my lack of alch progress in W5 and I guess the main reason is my bubo still not being online. Is there any other way to reasonably reach Tenteyecle 200 other than the +25 talent level artifact from sailing? There is no way I am unlocking this in the next 2 weeks with my current sailing state :/
@graceful tinsel can I have some help really quickly
If you have high divinity level + connect with arctis, level your ES for higher family bonus, have rift slug, and get all the other max book level bonuses you can do it
There’s the salt lick, achievement, ES family bonus, Bear deity, Slug pet
what you need help with?
Biggie hours in spice battle ive tried the Google docs set up and he still didn't die
your using this comp?
Spice battle not Pet colo
yea it is the spice battle
For biggie hours down the bottom
oh this one, i honestly dont remember using this comp for biggie
Well the first one is gonna take a long time to get and I need to beat biggie before choco chip comes to roster
yea i dont remember doing biggie so i cant really help 😦
Alr
Do these high value captains have a higher chance of having only one stat? Every time one of these appear, it's either one stat or 2 but shit
Second one is 19+8 speed
31 is better than my current 10+8 loot value one, but I'd have liked a second stat
I just unlocked my tenth character (journey man ) i donet think he is getting the buffs for king doot , why?
Doot requires divinity level 2 on a char to start working
mmh, it was made to make people who got doot without w5, to not get softlocked
since doot is giving divinities but you don't have any without w5, so what is doot giving?
Equinox preparations. This is increasingly stupid.
I wish I had doot would make my 1billion kills per map farming twice as fast
a nice thing to wake up to 
wut u gonna do with 1.5k glass shards
And you are hitting the manual block successfully?
mason jar stamp
ah yes stamps
I still dont get how to make my refinery refine. 
I finally past 200k red salt on first cycle, but its still too slow, i'm pushing it with 4 characters with elephant divinity, but its STILL too slow.
Troll gear requires ridiculous ammounts of void salt and barely any of my salt even lives long enough to become void, as i still need a bunch of other salts.
I guess the salvation is construction mastery, but no way i'm getting there any time soon
Yes
Just the cool down is too long
Tbh i didnt see reason to use block pets in the early stages of breeding.
Just use another dps pet pretty much
Enemy damage is not that much of a deal and you better off using another dps or even a healer, you dont have to negate damage completely
there are many tihngs in game. i can't remember them all. what bonus allows my vman to have this many maps unlocked?
w5 rings maybe?
I personally used pig pet to break through him i think. Amplifier projectiles allow for burst damage when they hit that might break through healing.
It's just the healers in the back I can't hit
Yes its just dps check, so using blocker is useless
After a vman speed run his unlocked portals defaukts to the furthest progressed character you have
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiintersting
Do i understand correctly that pretty much the only way to seriously improve Vman speedruns is just to straight up boost his damage to the moon so he will multikill anything million times?
so you're saying once i get my vman and speedrun on him, he'll be at moles?
If your main combat class it at moles, yes
Yes he will be, also all his kills will reset to 2m
well 
I dont want to think how you got to moles before doing vman
Once you have maximised your mob respawn and multikill bonuses yes.
I got to the tremor worms before bothering with Vman. 
It’s fun not knowing what is going on
Probably the most fun you can do not knowing what is going on is to make 10 characters without journeyman
This would be hilarious
i mean my account basically doesnt have a maestro
most of his skills are not the highest 💀
Great comparison
Well maestro sucks tbh. Voidwalker is pretty cool, i need to actually go back to him and respec his skills properly.
Speaking about moles, its pretty funny to put upgrades into the last bubble not having loot for the previous one.
I still not there.
someone got a guide on towerdefence with kraken meta?
u can find it in pinned section on this page @fading oracle scroll down till u see it
Is there a spreadsheet for where obols drop?
Trying to clear some easy slabs and was hoping I didn’t have to go card to card
ty
gimmie i have a decent amount of these
Oh, a majority you have to either p2w or alchemy obol
Best farm for instablab and cloudsound followers?
Sorry
Not cloudsound
The blue one
poops
Thanks, And instablab?
Time to equip bird divinity and go grinding those levels.
oh dont worry im dooted

Then just do it
ill work on mining and wood first fuck fishing worship catching and cooking
fml.-.
I did it recently its actually pretty easy for everything.
For chopping just straightforward, go to the tree that gives you the most
For catching everything is also straightforward its not too slow just stop at lower level
For mining you can go to equinox and mine a bit of ore there actively, reach high level and go to the mine level you want.
For fishing DONT even try to progress normally its extremely slow, just go to equinox, leave a character there actively for like 20 minuts and then go to the fish island instantly.
For worship - play 1st tower defence manually on everyone at least once.
And for cooking get to like lvl 15 and spam with divinity pearl to 50 on everyone.
equinox ill just ballon it
For fishing its like 10 minutes of active afk to reach lvl 30
Thats quite a lot of balloons.
Using the divinity pearl in cooking with the god bird is very good
equinox gives waaaaaaay more than reg fishing also i have like a lot
thats what i did my bb is now lvl 50
Only character I've bothered leveling cooking on is my bubo >.>
and i have black pearls to use too type shit
Oh I did it purely for money gain, you get talents for leveling cooking?
You get talent points for leveling any skill, it just varies depending on the page
every lvl of a skill gives u 1 tab 1 point and 1 star talent 2 lvls 1 tab 2 point tab 3 and 3 skill lvls for tab 4
Is there a catching sheet I can use anywhere
wasnt that only for w1-w3 skills?
i dont remember
Anyone?
You could just simply search it in the search bar and find literally everything
you can also go to tips and tricks and search sampling
Not the perfect answer for "questions world 5"
Here you go my dudes! Ultimate Catching Guide hope this helps!
#griffybit #idleon #legendsofidleon
!catchchart
Not the perfect question either 
Problem is, there are so many types of people whose brains work in so many wildly different ways, not to mention induviduals like ADHD who can get focused on one simple things and not think about another simple things like search bar
soon lol
Voidman is gonna help a lot
Fair and true point
I was too critical
as someone with ADHD i have always hated how people seem to just use it as an excuse
I suspect there might be different levels to adhd, I dont have it just an observation from experiences
there is different levels of ADHD, and even more after ADHD and ADD got merged together, but i have always been told to not see it as a dissability but just a part of my personality
it gots some downsides and upsides, and with medication, the downsides get decreased alot
Didnt say its a disability haha
oh i am
dont worry, im not accusing you of any wrong doings
it is a dissability, that is why we get medicated for it, but using it as a excuse is something i have always hated
that is just what i meant
Wasnt thinking that way, and I get your point no worries, but the person who asked for help as an example, if he had adhd he didnt use it as a excuse, I just made an observation to a scenario that can happen and used adhd as an example
ah okay, i misunderstood you then, thanks for clarifying 

cant wait to grind that in the future
With discounts its much cheaper
Just wanted to show you full price of mine atm
I am definitely not as high up there as a lot of other stamp gods
Isn’t there a part on discord that shows the quest rewards
the recommended goal is 124
On wiki for sure
but people have pushed it way beyond 130
I could do 124 "easily" just need to wait for the discounts
At full reduction. 104
The average divinity experience... i failed 50% 10x now
im currently doing dk at sandpots to get shards, small strenght pots and w2 leafes
so i finally can get to that 124 
1% gamba 
I am doing BM for shiny levels
The active sucks but the shiny progress is yummy
kanna would be proud
He told me about the mechanic, i jumped on shinies a little too late so I want them up before world 6
My shiny level up rate is higher than his tho, so I am ahead technically ;)
How many time does it take before item on the ground Disappear?
Ty
!despawn
All items on the ground despawn after an hour, while coins despawn after 20 minutes.
😏
Just wait for the 100% chance
I take the 50% if it comes first
that sounds like a non autolooter 
And fail it
Im on God 9 rn just need 1 more
after lvl75 all char lab you guys suggest to like afk gmush or what
1 more for what?
To get all God and get the es buff i guess
Oh hmm. You won't get the ES buff just now
God Ranks come after unlocking the 10 Gods. Essentially unlocking God 11+
You don't benefit from the ES Buff at all, when unlocking the 10th god
Well play
What is your god rank?
- I'm 95% to God Rank 4
Theres so many things to do in the game, the suggestions definitely depend on your account
God Rank 4 took an eternity 
Do yellow clocks work on divinity?
Depens on how you want to play the game i guess
I will show the 100% price of God Rank 4, when my CC is done
I gess its 20,000m
What am i even trying 😭
I am guessing 20b
can i candy worship % to get another try?
yes
just anywhere?
It's only 10.4B 
Only
How do people get 40k of a stat and 70k on their main
My guess was closer
Yeah
🤯
It's shown as million. So actually lackerda was closer 
Yeyyyyyy
You said it in billions
I win.
But okay, he was closer
Someone know?
U lose.

Alchemy and stamps
Level that bubble. Later on and with the Ram Companion you can get 2/3 levels on that with every 1 hour candy
is it only 2/3 levels per candy?
i thought it was way more
1B resources per 1 hour candy
The ram companion can upgrade alchemy bubbles?? What?
It's more like 4-7 base stat each candy
yes
No, but it let's you store the resources on the map itself and stop you from wasting resources
btw xaya, i got bewboh to cooking 60 (actually 62, but that does sound as cool)
Money 

I hope theres gonna be cooking xp upgrades from second skill in world 6
I wanna hit cooking total 1000
+% xp for every meal level 
Maybe also new rifts?
Multiplicative?
Lava math. Who knows
New Rifts is actually a good call. I should finish that last 5m afk rift
i will do it when i gets released 
Do it now
i never did any of the following ones, after doing the one to unlock ruby
Do it
Do it
Do it
but im finally dk'ing now 
U have more char
but i dont have doot 
Ho...
My blood berserkers been cooking for over a year now
going for chizoar armor for all char is good?
you dont really need it
Depends on your stage in the game
go for magma instead
Kruk armor or riot
well.... you need both
Need is a strong word, its suggested to have both :)
Hmmm that 5m rift is gonna be done in no time
I didn't even need to connect that guy to Nobi 
Another Div link wasted
the life of a non dooter
Orrrrr
Go all in with all 10char and finish it in 1 hour

🤣
No doot? 
Soon I can start leveling real things
we need a megamind saying no doot? emoji
If he makes that it wouldnt sit well with the community haha
imma try to make it as an img
do you think the new rift will be out on w6 release?
I have no idea. But Dragon said Rift and I thought I finish the last one just in case
well... the guy has to make new rifts and rift rewards, new equinox challenges and bonuses, new pets and pet rewards... how much of it would he even remember?
There is atleast a good chance there is gonna be a new Rift
Me We might get a preview of Rift in the next 2 weeks
fair point
Probably some more Previews of W6 Content and maybe a week of old content
i speak of rift preview
I know as much as 99% of people in this Discord
Oh I see. I said "Me might", when I meant "We might"
Do you know me?
okay guess i will do that after 800m spitfire
Dooter. Quick, point at him 
800m spitfire isnt enough for 10m coldseekers
i already have 4.3b
ok...fair enough^^
my wallet still hurts 
Can you spare another 400$ 
i cant even spare 400€ for a new cpu so no 
Maybe next year 
cause a new cpu is in most cases not enough
need in many cases new mainboard too
At this point you can buy a new Case too 
basicly...a new pc^^
no i love my case 
explains why its white
its black
I have 250 euro ready for world 6, hopefully its not gonna take that much money to get everything tho
It's not mandatory to spend money, you know.
Sunk cost fallacy, I cant stop spending now
do i make devious sluppers for bubo or keep magma?
magma is the best for damage right now
Today... is a blessed day... Good job snail... good job.
is double artifact find good for captain or should I take speed + loot ?
speed plus artifact is what most go with to get artifacts
Is Frost Relic is a seperate 90% eff multi on top of your other multis?
do you guys think that getting troll -> magma -> kattlekruk for all my chars at this point is worth?
probably? it depends what previous armor w6 gear is going to take to craft. it might require kattlekruk gear
do we get anvil tab6 on w6 release?
probably
i saw an overview of stuff we got with mobs vials and stuff but i am not sure abt anvil tab 6
well yea i think thats because anvil tab 6 is a normal thing to expect
it would be quite odd if we dont get anvil tab 6 on release
You think the i.o.u.'s will work instead of a gem or am I gunna have to beat kruk again?
i have no idea what your talking about lol
You don't have to beat nightmare mode, so shouldn't be too much trouble, right?
Yea but it took me like 13 mins last time
Because world 6 isn't here yet you get an i.o.u. instead of a world gem
ohh right, i imagine this will work?
unless lava forgets it i guess
i dont even remember what those said lol
There is a use for Baba Yaga Eggs 
yeah those should convert to the w6 gem, the troll iou's did
That they could be used for pet eggs
nice
(they're used in a lab jewel unlock)
Yea but I got that jewel from a random gem purchase at the gem shop
then you dont need baba yaga eggs 😛
+1 slab
I found em
doot is at hand 
Good luck
Make sure to sacrifice a luckier lad to the Gods 
i mean it does say or maybe you never will
I only read the parts I wanna see
All i see is a bean
Give me hatchable eggs
You also need to record it and do a double backflip and shout lava lava lava as loud as you can 
just unlocked zerg rushogen is that a prayer that should always stay on?
When you are afk, yes
If active you switch it for Rucksack
dont have rucksuck yet but yeah makes sense ty
thank you, but i'm sure i will get them next week those 
I'll get dedotated ram next week I just know it. 
end-game bleach log players 
whats this
decided to do the silly thing and max out my tab 4 talents
Go look at the worship totem in w3 town 🙂
it gives bonuses based on your waves
do u mean the one in town
where u can do every soul stuff
Love it when you claim a 250 hour AFK from Fractal Island and it gives you fish instead 🙂
No 300 
Anyone think Purplestack (1050B or 1050T) should be a thing?
1050T?!!!!
it's not commonly asked for as the act of using your resources would lose you the stack
My wallet cannot afford slug (or doot)
Not really, it's not the same kind of challenge. Any recourse you can 3d print would be easily done, but stuff from shops would be even more impossible than they already are
Ah slug 
With slug you would have a nice 310 
well f2p 
I need auto loot too 
Hmm especially the statues and golden stuff will be impossible to collect for...
i'm only missing 83% cooking afk gains from doot those 
Well technically doot is free but at what cost 
soon
Would be nice if you could just buy the Doot instead of potentially gamble 100 or whatever the failsafe value is
Doot is only free if you get it as a random roll. The 200 free doot still requires money to get
200 weeks only
Ohh yeah, the pitty roll only activates if you spent cash, forgot about that tbh
It does require money it requires some time and by some time, 200 weeks 
i rolled f2p doot
skill 
yeah, just always worth noting that you can't do roll 200 with a free roll, the game won't let you
It's a gambling game based on rng :/
but you gonna save like 200 bucks for 5 years later 
or 6?
Only 200 bucks ?
wcyd
its 4
anyone worked out the total amount of items you need to get a bubble to 100m resoures with the 90% discount?
All i can think of is Mr Crabs talking about money whenever doot is brought up
4 years and 1 month 
imagine how many premium packs you could buy instead of doot 
No easy way to calculate it unfortunately:
Every bubble scales differently
every player has different investment into bubble cost reduction
I need only auto loot, and dr pack 
that DR cape is something else 
still trying to figure out how this is more than 4 years.
200/52 = 3 years, 44 weeks
easier to round up?
Math hard
+30% dr
If they had said 4y 2m, that would have made sense, if they'd used 4 weeks / month and 12 months / year. 4y 1m doesn't make a lot of sense
oh, im thinking about that 20% multi DR cape
If you would do the month 4 weeks it is 4 years but you did the average weeks which is more accurate
1 month lost for timed free roll wrong 
Isnt that just the island pack that gives the multi dr
that will solve the problem
yea theres no other cape than molten that gives dr from memory
hopefully w6 we get it 
I wonder if we will ever combine the boss capes or world trophies at a later stage
same xD
Every time I look at my DR I wanna start tracking IT for glacial event
Then I get lazy and pretend it doesn’t exist
My last vial is blob before w6 so I’m doing 20 minute traps 
I don’t think I’ll finish it in 13 days doing 2 day traps
or just farm 1m plunder kills for more dr 🙂
Ehhh it’s okay DR
I have gained .02 DR from plunder in the last 2 days haha
this is mine at 1m, whats yours at 20k?
Double citringe density flat map 
I average 0.01x dr every day with Plunder farming 
Im sitting at 45k plunder, just cant bring myself to finish it off
ah i see that 4% adds up 😛
All it takes is 2 months 
Finish you’ve barely started
I'm being horribly inefficient and doing w5 cards alongside plunders lol
Actually, isn't it closer to like 45 days nowadays? I forget if it's 1 1/2 or 2 1/2
months, that is
its 45 days with the symbol upgrade i think, i cant remember what rashaken said
about 45 days if you do it on citringes. I got about 22k a day
it took me 2 months at citiringes, but i fucked up and didnt have crystals cards or choco chip on for a few days
That's not bad
If I wasn't on the shiny train I'd consider, but I'm only 200k or something
the talent levels are super important for it. Firing off 12+ balls per volley makes a big difference on your kills per hour
same for stuff like the homing arrows, the more mobs you're hitting the better
yea and the coin talent i imagine would be nice
with full CD skills your flag talents cooldown is basically 0, so the moment it runs out you place a new flag
meaning you never have a dry spell anymore
Homing gets pretty comical how often the uptime is that high 
Even just 100 talent is 34 seconds, so you need to kill 1 plunder mob every 34 seconds to maintain the buff (you'll kill way more than this)
pew pew pew
I'm really looking forward to seeing homing in like world 8. 50 arrows pls
DK mongorang is another contender for most hilarious skill
At what point should I turn off the Kitsune rock in gaming? If ever
There's a brief period after unlocking chem but before your garden gets good that, imo, it's better to have off
but once you start getting faster it's just better to leave it on
Holy crap I need to get Equinox Wizard Tower Upgrade... I've been on wave 120 Frosty Boss for like... an hour now.. @_@
Could you define "gets good"?
what level to tackle kattlekurk?
level isn't really a factor. If you can oneshot moles before kruk, you're probaly fine (depends on class tho)
Bubo, ES, and DK can do kruk before the other classes
My strategy has been to Leave Kitsune on until I get to a "Tree Log Ready" and then turn it off, use the log and any chems until I run out, and then go back to kitsune on. What are your thoughts?
Or is it better to burn through Chems/Log even with the diminished gains?
Should i bother trying to gs these? feels like id waste my life away before i see any results
I'd probably say if you're at the point where chems can start hitting level 5 in a reasoanble time, keeping kit on is better
getting the full log reset per chem is really the big thing
20.4% chance to evolve each cycle atm ... I would think that seems reasonable
the later ones have reduced chances so kitsune helps with that by giving more chances
oooooh... I think I realize now, I forgot about the Kitsunes Bonus ONTOP of the 4x speed -3x bits...
im getting 2.2 minutes with it on.. and 12+ minutes with it off
that makes an even bigger difference
knowing w6 comes soon...i really hope we get an extra page for filtering too...
Yeah together it is 6x for me, and the real progress comes from shovel equinox build up which in turn comes from popping chems and you ideally want to pop them at 5. So I just leave it on permanently, did the turning on and off before I had chem
Uff, w6 town shop is going to be my death.. I joined maybe 6 months ago and still haven't progressed past the green coins
W6 mobs will provide the $
hows your bank looking
😢 I don't own an entire bank
Which po order is easiest to spam pens on
None
Po6 best for colo tickets though
Ohhh I thought he meant click-wise 🤣
Forgive me for not having the number memorized, but why "Chem lvl 5" ... how much time does that one give?
Mainly care about the boxes themselves
25 hours. It will completely reset your Log
No lol
enough for a full log, dunno the exact number
;3 I'm stupidity at its zenith when I'm drowsy
ahh ok. Sweet
The numbers for Chems is lvl^2
So 1, 4, 9, 16, 25, 36, 49 hours
Btw for gaming am I supposed to use shovel everytime I can or does it build up
Shovel everytime
I think it builds up, though
So the strat then is to Hold Chem's until you can pop log with it each time
I keep getting like under 100 when my nugget is 3.6k
makes sense
But it might slightly diminish rate-wise?
"Slightly"
What about for unlocking new plants? Do I roll small chances or save up
I remember trying to save up for 2 months but only got to 30% barely moved from there
I wish lava didn't make the scaling so bad so that you could pop multiple chem at once without it being pointless
Wish that information was on the Wiki.. It feels like alot of the stuff there is lacking on stuff like that data wise
Slightly
Wiki is so helpful honestly
Whenever a world dropped, everyone would read the wiki
oh I agree it is. It just seems to lack basic data like "How many hours Chem gives at each evolution"
True 😢
To be fair, no one aside from people in #idleon-gen-chat #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 and #endgame-gen-chat Chem click
But Chem info would be useful, yes
I don't even know what u guys are talking about so I guess it's not that big of a deal
Overkill much?
What should I do for unlocking more plants? Roll after each collect or save up?
Only the people who went through the excruciating pain of clicking several hundreds of time on the "new evolution : 0.2% chance" can understand this sacred language
Click click click, probabilities are on your side
After every click is best chance
Saw someone yesterday with over 200k overkill
Wow, that's just harsh
theoretically, research every single plant harvest has the best average rate
but for practicality, research for every all harvest is the choice to go
I tried doing the set hp to 30% expecting it to just crash the game but it did like 7k damage
Also for gaming I got the upgrade to unlock 5th tier, I guess it just leave the plants till they upgrade?

Atleast gaming makes u feel like you're accomplishing something unlike breeding
is diamon chef worth atoming up to say 95 threshold at 247 or 98 at 637?
or just leave NBLB?
90% of diamond chef is like 1400
diamond chef is a bit fun in that the bubble effect % is different to the buff %
guess this spread sheet is off
because the bubble is self multiplying, it's actually much higher than you'd expect
the difference between my bubos hourly afk coin rate and what he gets active is kinda silly. I was curious and tested it for 5 min. Afk he gets 53 yellow per hour, active he gets 77 red in 5 min. That is a factor of 1776. People who never let it run active really are out of luck for many things^^
it shows down here if your using this one
thats it, lmao...had 8k set
so next question, should i atom to 90% threshold? or just leave...currently trying to get bob to 1k before going back to samples
At what point can I use bubo to farm coins? 200 tent?
haha, going afk on bubo, that's a funny thought. >...>
Yep!
You can already do it. It just won't be as effective as 200 Tent
it is not like he is useless before but it is a big difference
almost 2 hours... only 190m health left on wave 120 frosty firefight... finally gonna get my new prayer
What map do you suggest? I got only 30m damage on him
What level are your towers? I feel like I am still way away from getting to 120
Is now a good time to mention beefy is kinda disappointing?
why you tell me this :<
60ish range
Flombeige
citringes are also good
The what now 😂
Wait no, damage too smol
Guess I am not too far off. Most of my towers are in the 40-50 range
Why does everyone know the exact names of everything
Maybe because I've played the game for three years and wrote a guide >;3
Flombeige are the second to last mob in W4
to be fair though.. I'm still not even at a trillion damage yet... so honestly I'll take whatever boosts I can get xD
I don't think my poison will 1 shot them, that's fine?
🤷 Might want to level it further then, one shot is the best.
If that's too much, try Soda Cans
You can test it out
Haven't killed enough gmush
But when you go back to Soda Cans with Bubo you might aswell go to W5 with DK
When purely going for Money
flombeige's were also the main bubo grinding map before w5 came out so it's one a lot of players know
does snapshot reset when you go to a new map or only when you open alchemy tab?
I'll try for like 10 mins and see how much I'll get
I feel like my es on last w5 map would get more though
🥳
one shot is important, megacrit helps a lot with that btw
the cycle of bubo relies on killing fast to reset your revive cooldown
Is there a reason why you don't level up the xp gain? Or did I screw myself by leveling that up?
This is what I'd reccommend
Ah yes mega crit.. my crit isn't even at 100% lol
Pretty sure it doesn't work 😛
Or was that Puff Puff Go?
I think I need to throw my bubo in w5 for a bit, he's only lvl 110
..... of course it doesn't. Why would anything do what it says it does =/
This game sometimes
if he can survive active leveling him in w5 should be very fast, mine is my highest leveled one
Surviving is easy, I'm worried about the damage lol
I'm hoping I'll reach 'em lampars soon
I threw all of my characters from the lab into W5 with garbage armor and weapons. They all hit over 250 within about 2 weeks
Might just throw em there for a day, even my lvl 300 es is getting a few levels a day from pushing
K, it'll take me approximately five days 😮💨
I'm assuming you made a new account?
lost their old one
Ah rip
yep, day number sixty
Still probs has way better stats than me, that kph seems kinda low though
What's your damage looking like?
Yep, kph is low 🤣
Why efaunt chest piece lol
I need to get to W6 for my guide 
Better than dementia
Its also cheap
Why not void
🤣 Remember, 'rushing'
I cant wait for you to have 10x my damage in a month or 2
75k audio cords would be a pain and damaging to my candy stockpile
bit of a fun question for the w6 preppers. Once w6 is out, and we start pushing with bubo, gloves or wand?
Gloves would result in better spread (so faster kills) but the wand will very likely cause more MK tiers
is no more praying worth it?
Bubbles atm
It is what I would consider a "debuff"
I think people would do wand for the MK
But maybe fists, people might be used to it
Not getting giants makes it a non-starter
...... depends on how far.into w6 prepping you are
does dr effect gene splice
the last trap feels like such a pointless upgrade with it giving no extra slot but I guess there is no reason not to upgrade
You unlock W6 Bubbles pre W6, right? 
i mean if it is for afk ppl...
guys what do i do in tower defense when the boss keeps healing and they are stuck in same position
My staff adds no where near double damage
You still lose out on royal sampler and other good prayers
More Trapping efficiency but that is more for when you don't need to worry about it
Abondon the TD run and do it again when you unlock the Void Tower
I think gloves are just the meta active for bubo
Void
Gives higher trapping power base, I suppose
i dont have void
Then.. nothing can be done
^
;3 If I can 😢
The benefits of using a prayer you want always outweigh the negatives you get. You sacrifice your good stuff for less bad stuff, which is still less good stuff, which is bad.
There's exactly 1 use for no more prayers:
- You have 90% sample rate without royal sampler
- You want to use DK in colo 2 for the DR boost
Void is essential for TD runs
If you have the equinox tower damage boost, you'll "eventually" out damage the healing. But is it worth it? No
i dont have enogu damage
Btw what level is your boulder and poison?
Void removes the healing aspect
It washes the effects mobs have
Void turns any mob it hits, into a basic version of it. No teleporting, no healing, no whatever
why DK in colo 2 explain pls if u dont mind
DK for every Colo 
Hp prayers negative buff mess up colo 2 (resources take ages to despawn) so you can't use midas
so no more prayers gives you 20% midas without the negative, giving you more drops
i hate this frozen map TD ;ppppppp
But why do colo 2?
Don't worry, you'll hate the later ones even more
Instead of just colo 4
always worth noting that the staff doesn't have to double your damage to go up a tier in all instances
Colo 4 costs 3 times the tickets forthe same amount of Candy and gems. Essentially losing 3x candies and gems
That would be for a single tier though
thanks bro
that makes it better
Losing good aura placement for a single tier wouldn’t be worth I don’t think
Ah so u doing it for candy, I see
No troll keys though
Depends on the map layout and mob density though
Candy better than troll keys
It all depends, doesn't it?
if laval goes crazy with the later mobs it might also make the difference between MK and none, at which point I'd def take the wand
I doubt we see anything above what your damage is gonna be in w6
w6 wand might also be crazy 😄
I think w6 gonna be easy and we won’t have issue with MK
w6 gloves equipable by all classes 
I’m just gonna make a beginner level 400 for kruk gloves
When w5 came out was it a huge jump from w4 or were people at the end by day 1?
Then class swap around 
Slugs is 25m base hp and wurms is 1.5B base hp
Kinda both. It was a massive jump, but the strong players hit wurms right away
First mob to last mob hp increase is 60x......
I got to wave 122 of frosty firefight.. and the game froze.. I swear to Grandfather Frog if this didn't save...
Oh, thats rough
If the final mob of w6 only has 60x more hp than tremor I’ll be getting plenty of tiers day 1
I reckon the final jump will be higher than that tbh
NM toll and NM kattle hp difference is 500 times
Lava knew he'd messed up with damage a that point, so we can probably expect a bigger increase than previous worlds

For people in the trillions people won't notice a thing
i just unlocked this thing hope ill be able to do it now
That's huge for damage
Do you have equinox yet?
i also got this now
🤣 Even if I did, it wouldn't help
no double no reroll again today, ill never hit 100k in time 
Shouldve started earlier
Activing at equinox fish for a little while can level you up quite fast
where should i put the void tower like somewhat in front or?
honestly 2800 a day is solid at least
It has VERY short range, so in front or close to it is best, especially with a decent number of krakens. See the guides for good placement strategies
I'd have to unlock the resource first
And for my stage atm, 20 gstacks is brutal
u see where they are
they are stuck there
with help of kraken obviously
so ill replace the left party with void?
I should go try doing some TD and see if I can increase my max levels at some point
void A or B?
I GOT SEVEN PRINTER PROCS 🥳
B, the one that gives %damage
i got a rokc
just realized I have a decent amount of balloons for now
use em
I'll save 'em since weekly W2 boss
just level all skills to 100 
You can get 9 trophies + misc
2 3 1 - 1 3 2 - 2 2 3 - 2 (rewind)
1 3 1 (rewind)
3 1 1 - 3 (rewind)
1 3 1 - 2 2 2 (rewind)
1 2 1 (rewind)
2 1 2 - 3 (rewind)
1 1 (rewind)
2 2 1 (rewind)
1 3 1 - 2 3 3 - 2 1 3 - 3 3 3 - 3 3 3 - 3 3
^ Credits to Roronoa Zoro for that Rotation
Damage and exp iirc
True 
AAAAAA trying to steal the clout
I completely forgot about these effing balloons... :'D
Wait, which one? >;3
dont forget...you can refight the w2 boss daily
(I know it's the one with the green hair)
so 9 trophies per day till next rotation
bloons are a thing yeah
It's 63 trophies
Do they work on cooking by chance?
buuuuuuuuuut
@plucky edge? ballooons work the same as smithy....use balloons and tab out
i would advise leveling cooking to 50 with the red pearls
but I aint got no red pearls :<
Divine Pearls are hard to come by though
want some i have no use for them
gs them^^
omg how do you have so many
didnt work for me when smithing idk about that
you using steam?
doot
Minibosses 
start crafting and while still holding mousebutton tab out
:( everything leads back to Doot
didnt work for me
😢
alt+tab
we're going to need at least 5 wave
I suffer 
did that td yesterday too
😮💨 Ten more levels we go
There there.. look on the bright side, at least it's you and not me :)
after 140 i got too bored^^
yeah i know did it didnt work but i dont mind the 20 minutes
also i dont know what i would use my balloons on
so w/e
I did to 130 yesterday and fell asleep. Woke up with 160
only did it cause i needed it for equinox..so 140 was enough
@paper sail Also, leveled up the Level Up Box, got Sukka Foo, that'll help with Kruk as well
oooh, question, what's the best chance for 2000 killroy? Bubo?
Where do you get chopping obols?
alchemy
I wanted higher souls/charge cause I'm going for the vial atm. Happy with 160, but getting 170 with damage setup would've probs beem possible so semi sad

i missed that and also 12345 
Heyyy Larry didn't mess that up
i feel u
:3 I feel nothing
Coincidentally, 12345 was the only good number I got a screenshot since like 1111
and i thought we were special
I feel nothing whenever I level bubbles 😢
good lord... atoming that would take over 120 days
Thats why they didn't atom
thats why you dont atom
imagine atom
what..then How O_o
but putting all that stuff in warehouse sux too^^
you candy the mats
Atom's for first warrior bubble, dah
/s
If monke has doot it could be leveled up around 3 times an hour - 9 lvls, + candy
do you even bargain tag it .. or?
omni procs
Out of curiosity, where do you atom? Bob?
1 base, and 1/2 omni procs
i atomed bob to 4200 and now im just degen atoming quick slap until it gets nerfed
oh omni yeah i thought about just candying
Just how much are you getting from candy'ing.. O_o that'sSOO much
I am atoming the last damge bubbles until around lvl 800
Haha gotta get that slap as high as possible before it gets capped to 1k xP
most of my levels are from hourly clicks
....I was lied to.
No chizoar scarf?
Scarf better
Yep, very unlucky
Rip......
I've killed about 150 Chizoars, got zilch
Wow, didn't expect to get this far:
I wish I could give you one, could get you one in less than a minute
I have thrown away so many blankies
I just can't get the tooth tjingies to upgrade the scarf. Have more trophies than orange scarfs
here i made an extra on accident
ill trade u
@cerulean hemlock my extra one is better

There's a problem there
I... I.... I'm not level 425 
lvl req on that is way too high lol
First kill
just level real quick
I got all boss capes which is neat
imagine having troll wings

I got it back ❤️
What exactly?
yellow damage
But how?
The yellow damage lol, there was a visual bug
Water shop
What does balance of proficiency affect? Constuction?
Ugly x5
dr cape is better and beatiful
lookin in the mirror?
Yea doot isn't the prettiest
They look happy
All I see is a pipe bomb....
more like mental illness
No way, you just spam click and hope it’s chopping? Is it random?
Yep
I buy 5 daily from each stack
Good luck and have fun 
yes
its pain
especially if you want to slab the purple one
Imagine failing it multiple times in a row and resorting to grinding Amarok Obols...
Heheh. Couldn't be me! .....
The worst one is the card one to purple
who in their right mind would grind obols for that
Not me or you! That's for sure!
|| We both need help, don't we?||
.... I got another pair of wings before another obol
yes
soooooooo i have a 3.151k nugget and just rolled a 3.158 nugget after 2400 trys 
A lucky person 
how in the world doesw my bubo have so much defense
I got two chizoar obols, no blankie
Gas
Gas stinks, gives him natural antibodies
only 2 more
Natural antibodies ward off W5 mobs ;3
Are you ok?
Will you equip them? Or still worse than the kruk obols
Got Amarok obol on 3rd kill
......
I only have 2-3 necklaces
Kruk is damage
Troll is %all stat, correct?
shrug
So troll > Skilling obol(s)?
Iirc my first lucky lad was when my 3rd character was going past beans
Troll for snapshot and kruk for the afk%
Then I didnt see another for a year and a half
My luck is....weird
Gotten 3 jackpots but no boaty for example
im so lucky my balljoepickle got consumed even though i didnt get the vial
How?
My luck is weird, two of the same arcade stamp
Only 2? ..... I think I gave 2 or 3 balljoe pickles
i really dont know i dropped it and it was gone
And 4 of the same arcade stamp
Nooooo the stamp 
In a row?
I've never gotten a jackpot or boaty 😦
only card remains then
After reading this bio my life has changed 
Not in the same pull..... but I have only gotten the normal ball and not the golden one
?
rawr 
Tbh I don't think I have looked at my bio in years
rawr 

no seroiusly how does my bubo have 7800 defense when the same gear on an ES has less than half that
Prayer?
Obols? other buffs?
Cards?
My bubo has around same def as my Dk with the defence reducing prayer
no obols for def on, card are same, set is same
prayer lemme check
some prayer changes... closer to 7800 but stil 1000 off.
Amarok cape?
Def increasing talent?
thats bucklered up
Damn it. Died on wave 120 at Moonmoon
Oof
Still an extra 10 max level from where I was, so every little bit helps
For ES monster mat farming, is it better to do 2nd link with Nobisect for dmg% or Snehebatu for afk%?
Dmg
afk% does nothing for active play 






