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so 5k feels low yes
bubo degens
mine is 11k and I feel like I could push it a bit more
I'm pretty sure 100k GT is not legit
If it makes you feel better I also don't know what gt is
its grind time big bubble luck cauldron
wdym? ๐ซข
The whole shrine convo was just me looking at the screen like the harold meme
there used to be an exploit that let you massively increase your water rates/capacity - which can then be used to spam up your GT. It's currently not really possible legit
oh okay the one you upgrade when you want alchemy dopamine but only have water got it
they probably used the program that shall not be named
oh
didnt know
mb
love nblb ๐
only way to easily spot those players is if they have massive water/big GT but really low alchemy level
its been levelling yellow bargain for weeks now
oof 27
yea ๐ฆ
U know what's realistically possible for Bubo enjoyers? 30-35k?
wait... you've been leveling yellow bargain for weeks... but NBLB prioritizes your lowest level bubble...
ew bargain bubble
this is gonna take a while
i bet more is possible if one really goes all inn
i have not been levelling it
Have you spent like 3 weeks leveling yellow bargain only through NBLB?
i leave mine at 1
maybe its kinda ok in my eyes idk why i levelled it up in the first place but thats 1 year ago so i dont really remember
Yeah maybe. Didn't buddha push Cauldrons to like 700 with 5 weeks of Bubo. I guess people who actually only Bubo are much higher - Therefore more GT
700 decant?
I feel like the time it would take me to get my GT to 10k+ is about the same as it would take me to lvl the classes themselves XD
You're saying I should become bubo main
lowers prowessary and dr bubble thingies so i like it
yea?
I just reached world 5, what should i do? I am currently at the divinity quest
my min bubbles now 27 you didnt notice that :p
i doubt he pushed 700 decant in 5 weeks, as it took me quite some time to get 350 decants. however if he had some insane starting point with both the sigil buff maybe
I did but other people were commenting on how that was sad and I didn't wanna pile on cause I know you're improving bit by bit
๐ฆ life of a neglector is harsh
I believe it was nerfus and they already had 400/500s or maybe even higher before really grinding
what sort of neglector has two accounts for idleon discord
yeah then it probably is possible
when i did my push i didnt have any of the sigil buffs also
the kind who thought he lost his actual account and created an alt
so with those they can easily reach over well over 100 water /h
@tacit tulip so if i have dia chef at a level where it gives me 2 times meal speed and i have 4 dia meals will it give me an 8 times speed boost to my kitchen supposedly 10k itll become 80k?
oh what the hell ๐ฆ
dia chef is not multiplicative
its exponential
uhh so how'll that work 10k becomes what
and I dont really think the 2x is possible
.... I need to work on dia chef
isnt 1.3 max? pretty sure
should be
im just saying it for the calculations
10k of what
.... I don't need to work on dia chef assuming I'm already maxed or close to max
10k cook speed
level 1612 is 90% of max
if i have 10k kitchen speed with 4 diamond plates and a 2 times buff per meal from dia cheff what'll that 10k become
.... okay yeah I need to work on dia chef
18k or something?
10 000 * (dia chef bonus)^(amount of diamond plates)
again 2x buff per meal is impossible
i literally said its to make the calculations easier :/
lava math is a bit uh...
and you'd get a very wrong result
real math
It's something alright that's for sure
yeah i got it
see how wildly different the results are
they're obviously going to be wildly different, even .005 difference when taken to the 53rd power gonna do something
I just got used to people talking about "lava math" as like, part of lava's descriptions not always accurately communicating their meaning
ah ok
bout what i expect from a 1.08 multiplier i just wanted to round to the nearest number so i was choosing to use 2
but that was a bit too much
The next rounding would be 1.1 
1.08 vs 2 as a base in an exponent is just wildly different things
thats like rounding 500 up to 1 million because it was the closest whole million
I think power of 10 skills are the best example, like if you're more into math you probably recognize them as logarithmic but if you're not used to thinking in terms of logs it's a bit more.... Arcane, for lack of a better word
"Lava math" even if entirely accurate math
well if you think about it dividing the end result of the 10k2 meals by 2 will give the approximate meal speed
and have 10k cooking speed?
supposedly
itll result in 54k and 100k
no rounding needed
huh
if you do the 2 instead of 1.08
idk maybe it'll make sense if i say i was trying to do the whole thing in my head and not a calculator and its easier for me ๐ฆ
if you do 2 instead of 1.08 it would give you 320 000 cooking speed
not 54k or 100k
where are you getting these numbers from?
wait what
Can you quote the dia chef so I can check the math
I'm having a cig rn
is the divinity quest in the world 5 town just waiting to get the divinity?
its dia chef level to the power of dia plates?
and not dia chef multiplied by dia plates?
the math is this:
Cooking speed * (dia chef bonus)^(amount of diamond plates)
Good morning to you too
i didnt see the to the power of i confused that for multipication thats why i was getting confused
i wasnt confused
oh yeah then it'll give vastly different results
On my end I'm not so interested in the math as the wording; maybe the wording is accurate but the average player could work on math skills
wording is not clear yeah
maybe i should get my eyes checked out
I wouldn't have gotten the exponent from the wording but at least speed x 1.29
...exponent comes from per meal
only a 40k increase from dia chef damn not as good as i thought
get more plates to dia
vman is multiplicative right
the bonus is massive but yeah
Okay yeah it could be more clearly worded but the math makes sense if you think about it in strictly mathematical terms for a bit
Vman is multiplicative to other bonuses. But the bonus itself is exponential
dia chef will still double my meal speed so its good early on
huh
... I think at least, I majored in behavioral economics, I'm better at looking at a graph and being all, "hrm this is why poor people shouldn't have iPhone"
if i have 10 meals at 10 and am getting 100 levels will this thing give 66% more meal speed?
1.66^100
isnt it 0.66?
You have a base value of 1
oh
try doing 0.66^100 and see how low the number goes
+X always assumes 1 as the base if you multiply it
I know it's confusing but I think the best advice I could possibly give someone is to listen when more experienced players are discussing the math behind the game, they've probably had discussions about it before either of us started and have had more time to figure this out
Base Value of 1 + talent value ^ total meal
otherwise you'll end up with less than you began with if you have a 0.X multiplier
youd end up with approximately 0 cooking speed
what the
a billionth of your original cooking speed....sounds great!
this would be mine
did my pc have a stroke or is this real
This is real
funni
Did you ever do math in school?
0.5 * 0.5 = 0.25
0.5 * 0.5 * 0.5 = 0.125
uhhh what ๐ so two times my meal speed?
think so ๐ฆ
do you understand what e22 means?
big numbah
exponent of 22?
basically it means 10^22
thats a big number
e22 would be more commonly used in scientific notation iirc, which I may not tbh
is there a gif of a dog doing calculus I can use to just showcase me trying to understand but also being a dog
i gotta rattle my brains 
no calculus but very accurate
me when my professor started scribbling triple integrals on the whiteboard
me when i put my head down for 1 min in math class
I failed algebra 1 and 2 and only started to get into math in college :x
so whats the end speed if the starting value is 60k
I would usually either get the max grade or the lowest grade possible in math, nothing inbetween
60k times 1025200490000000000000
isn't it not actually 1.66? and more like 1.066 or something?
I usually failed due to HW, except in Algebra 1, where I got bumped up a grade and no one thought maybe I needed to know what exponents are
thats what im getting like wtf
is that real
ah shit this might be it
yeah
1.066^100
mainly because I would almost always miss write a single sign, so my whole calculation would go to shit
because 1.66 x 3000 meal levels would give me MUCH more cooking speed tha merely 1^31
and I am slow at writing so I NEVER had time to double check shit
what the fuck is this
now its better
big number
I graduated because I went to my like linear algebra teacher and was like, " 'eyyyy so what can I do to pass" and he was like "I'm just... I'll just not count your HW... you know that was there to help you?"
to quote @shy flame Big Numbah
I got Bs on my tests like c'mon man why you making my grade depend on extra work
with alot of meal levels it's still kinda nuts
e+113 
Hrm big numbah
am i blind or is that 35 mil just from 100 plate levels?
once in Physics I got the right answer but the wrong sign in front of it ( so mine was +X while it should have been -X )
you're telling me ill get 35 mil speed from making 1 talent 100?
so I got deducted a whole grade for it XD
shouldn't that technically make it wrong? ๐
pretty sure there was some weird scaling when the kitchen didnt have alot of meal levels on that talent though
it should
didnt lava nerf it
Let's say I place an orb in mimic hole and then start biggie hour with 400+ orb count will that work ?
I never took physics but one time I saw my friends jump off a one story roof and land fine so I tried it and.... well, got a pretty good physics lesson after al
very, essentially a gun went the same direction as the bullet did by my calculations XD
pretty sure that talent has been unchanged since launch
at the same speed
i saw it ina griffy vid months ago but i forgot now
ill check what my bonus says ingame after this
imagine the eventual 500 plate levels
there is more than 500 plate levels
worst part was after I broke my leg in my cool jump attempt my best friend jumped off the roof to help me and landed fine ๐
500 plate levels takes it to the trillions or something
way more than 500
seems reasonable. i'm sure there's a movie out there where a gun that's not held properly when shot just the shot trajectory itself and just flies off into infinity
this thing seems busted
oops, next wave was a bit harder
I'd watch it
you people seem to like jumping off of roofs a little too much
considering like 120 or 140 would probably result in 10-100 digit billion
Very odd being on the ground with a broken leg like, "the risk I took was calculated, but boy am I bad at math" and then bestie is just fine and also an eagle scout so he also helps set a splint
we were 18 in in the midwest, it was either that or doing meth
i read this whole conversation in my head with a deep voice that i assigned for you but when i read bestie for some reason it got changed to a femboy/uwu girl voice
it will take decades more of cigarettes to make my voice deep
eat chalk
actually that makes your voice lighter pretty sure
damn
thats all assuming the base value of 60k kitchen speed
I am okay enough with my voice to not eat chalk for now, 18 year old made enough bad decisions
this is kinda my cooking speed fyi
pretty sure it should say E40 something
but whatever
it just says big numbah tbh
become a father or an emo dude automatically gain infinite strength for the former and deep voice for the latter
damn
thats a huge ass number
how many digits is that
jargon what's your cooking atom at?
would you say its a... big numbah?
damn. I'm only at 7. need to get those atoms up
3.46000000000000000000000000000000000000000?
so putting this in a worded expression
I'm already an emo but to become an emo dude I'd need to get pretzel legs, skinny jeans, and a studded belt and that ain't happening lol
oh right... i'm lacking doot procs 
damn...
@open mountain so you have 3.46 duodecellion
sounds about right
that word is made up
after trillion I'm just like, "yeah that's a lot"
This is taking a while 
would thousand sextillion be better for you?
no sounds like horny jail numbers to me
webster dictionary says it's real
it is real
you add as many zeroes as there is a number behind the E, so you add 39 zeroes. Together with the base digit, that adds up to 40 digits total
Webster got an entry for yeet, fake dictionary
apparently the british claim it's a different number
Level 3 is 34k +_+
That escalated quickly
lava is american so we only need to see the american math
wait why do the british have different numbers
yup... it's expensive, at least for my broke ass
it's a fair expense for a exponential benefit
oi shut up ya posh stuff,dont question the queen's choice bruv now zip it
quiet slag
yes that's some easy cooking speed but the cost scales disgustingly quick
ill ram a flake up your ass
where's the blinky man emoji
not focusing on cooking atm anyway... producing ladles...
err gif
well idk my best impression of a british dude ends here
those are not mutually exclusive ^^
how many ladles per day are you getting?
cooking = early game trash, making 100k ladles = cool end gamer move
39 now...
they are in my case since I need some more meal lvls
around 1300 or so
not bad
so 3 more days and I should be done
I still use ladles whenever I want. It's just that I don't use thousands of them. Using a few hundred barely puts a dent when I get 2300 something a day
itll take me 300 days to get 100k ladles
I have a few
i take 100k for a snickers. deal, or no deal?
gib me 5k so I can be done with this shit
can I borrow 100k I can pay you with a third of my braincells (1)
no deal
I'll click GT for a day for u for 5k
btw british dude impression but no mention of cheeky nandos is mid
UserNameBrand trying to fight the urge to bring up bread whenever losing a slight altercation
lmao
wait how does bread enter into this convo
ofc not before touching the ever living shit out of it
nah dont need it, only have one more character left to level
you gotta touch the dough to shape the dough smh
u got 1 to 600 ?
and washing his hands every time his finger touches it
lmao
id rather do that with pearls than with GT lmao
fair XD
You gotta flour your hands before working the dough in case it's still a bit tacky and obviously you want to wash your hands when done to remove the flour smh
ill give you 5k ladles for 500 pearls 
I didn't even bring up bread I'm being attacked for no reason smh
that might take me a while
you're saying lmao in a discord text chat
yes
the yellow ones are a meme honestly
trash pearls yep
the bloodshed doesnt end
maybe would have had a niche use case if they were affected by the statue
but they are theoretically green stackable
if only...
but the difference between this and 58.36 is nothing
yup
if you keep messing with my bread your bloodshed will never end ๐คฒ
is that the muslim hand gesture of praying
I didn't have the best access to the proper "throw some hands" emoji
oh I actually didnt have any xp pots equipped until now while lvling SB... oh no... the 0.3 % xp that I was missing, however will I recover... anyway...
nah that's a hertz donut
im gonna write a fanfic or story
okay a fist is too direct when I'ma slap the curds out your whey
well we moved from touching shit to slapping it ig
omg guys world 6
also because it gives you dopamine
no need to share your kinks here
smh my head it's just bread
kill me why am I doing this
which td is that?
acorns
this is 170
oh mb
don't think i'm gonna push many more TD waves until i get close to 60 cannoli. Maybe i'll redo TD5 for 170 and maybe will do TD6 to get more souls, but nothing major
(seriously though when your dough has doubled in size you can either punch it down or just give it a quick slap and it's way more satisfying to slap and watch it deflate on its own)
QS alchemy?
Idk what QS means but probably not, I just like bread 
quick slap
OHHHH that's the bubble for attack speed, right?
okay nvm for base damage
progress?
I mean that damage bonus is probably high enough to QS bread and just watch it deflate on its own
One moment!
after I am done with 85 % skilling bubbles I will most likely hit the utility ones and QS
I want to make bread now you people have ruined me ._.
banan bread right ?
wonder who started it
two baguettes, one just plain and the other with some ya know water or ice cubes to steam so I can see how it changes the crumb
You did by bringing up bread out of no where
you're first pinchy? congrats!
seems like we'll be making bread in w6 judging by the latest pic in #๐future-content-blog
whyd you say it
50th
going good got that tenacity ring i see
damn
All I need is that exp requirement
ENDGAME Armor aquired 
my es few days ago too
nah hes missing the efaunt boots for that sweet sweet ms
need atleast diabolical armour to talk here buddy ๐
2% movement speed 
the kattlekruk killer
๐
Retrapping was quite worth it. I finished mousey salt lick in a week. Now only Pingys left.
bosses are a pushover ngl
im embarrased to say this, but i used GMD for like 8 months....
this was my ES gear for like a year so I think you're fine
๐คฃ
mine was the same for even longer
its impossible that you have worse statues than me.... it factually impossible
tbh that was my bubo tho... here is SB at 12T damage
speaking of statues I got my 20k pecunia
b4 you laugh emoji show us your bubble page LMAO
this does not surprise me even a little
time to onyx pecunia then go back to w4 statue farming to finish the others :x
where are you at?
Sure! โค๏ธ
you madman dont ๐ฆ
:0
how
okay what the fuck
more bubbles than yesterday right?
1k QS more than me yet didnt finish onyx... smh my head
im like 90% sure
This is mine ๐
i only finished my last 5 onyxes like 3 days ago
is that like a cubicroot of your actual level
No thats my actual level
I'm tempted to pinchy that, but low QS is a sign of good endgamers 
haven't been activing DK in a while. I took a break to get 30k plunderous kills and to ES some mob vials
i have no reds left :c
hes a "midgamer" so you're safe
oops chat was scrolled up
QS is a nblb bubble and nobody can convince me otherwise
what is a pinchy other than what your grandma does to your cheeks
same.... except i have just been bouboing to try and catch up too scolis GT
humilliation
oh the lil bit emoji
a "point and laugh at this goober" reaction
glad i dont post anything bout my acc anymore
tbh its mostly just used as an escape route for us, so we dont have to give actual advice 
SO CLOSE TO SOLO DUNGEON FFS
Having people laugh at you for your weaknesses is how you build strength
real
you have a horrible pfp
my QS bigger, therefore i am bad
Am I endgame yet ?
It may be bad but I mean, come on... It's a classic
With squirrel in gaming, what to put points for? Speed or multiplier?
mine 30 am i endgame yet
Its beautiful ๐ฅน
the cost for bubbles when it gets to 1000mil it dosnt change after that?
correct
Actually?
miine too big, compensating for something else
liquid keeps increasing, but the material stays at 1B
AAAAAAA is still lower. Need to be the best to be considered endgame
My quick slap is 334 
It's weak! ๐
@cloud lynxA come out
I thought the other day we all decided endgame was a mentality
Woops
I have one slot printing coco and one for gmush on vman
@ AAAAAAA come out
you! level up your qs to 40 now
They don't exist
Doing 2.95 on bubble 2
quick slap only goes for archers?
Dang 334 minimum bubble is pretty nice 
It's worthless ๐ atm
QS at lvl 1
You just print gmush?
do it i need to be endgame ๐ฆ
take the crown ๐ฆ
QS is a great bubble because it encourages you to go fast on all your chars
qs encourages exercise
this, but green
Very similar to mine
quiet, fat
๐ mine is level 2

It's as good as it can get!
Its a little slow not having doot though with my vman farming stuff while on omni 
i need better mush prints apparently, sheesh
Dootless gang 
I just need doot and rift slug and honestly I got my first bean yesterday and that was enough for me to feel progress 
I think I might just shove vman in lab on harriep at some point just to actually push some bubbles
best gmush sample that exists
my first pet was ram so I've just been banking every map while stomping around like, "god I wish had 5% more afk gain"
my first pet was sludge :D
I think I havent done void run in like 3 months
ive had mostly beans, still no slug or doot
think its been since maybe october when i last did a void run
are you also hispanic or do you just not know about charro beans
Cant wait to get my free doot tomorrow 
pathetic..... try not doing it since release 
I'll most likely re do it after I am done with frigid souls
i really should do worship pushing sometime.... havent had the heart to go past the 130 needed for the equinox thing
imagine having a Vman, couldnt be me
imagine would speed up my frigid collecting
we found the true endgamer here
This is easy, correct?
yeah, you can just fart your way through it
10 days of GS portraits
you need to gstack them first 
or whatever number, i forget
mman priorities first
as long as you have one guy who hates goldric you can always gs later
ahh... that's everyone, then
do you get more divinity for doing it actively?
active divinity isnt a thing
how strong should i get my barb to for him to farm chow?
he has 1m max dmg and like 25k kph on gmush now
i should probably get him to zow w2 before that 
that's 40 candies for one chow
Fs in the chat for everyone who missed out on ketchup and mustard gstacks
your barbarian definitely needs more damage
slowly but surely
bones too 
i missed dog bones
making myself ready for new years while checking the pc every now and again
Fs in the chat for everyone who actually used active ES so they could get ketchup and mustard gstacks
oh right, bones
i still need to do rats and portraits, but may or may not do those depending on w6 stuff and how bored i get if i wanna take on the 200 gstack challenge now or later
oh yeah.... w6 will make 200 gstack so much easier 
also is there a pity system in divinity
i don't think so ?
did yall do the 1% offers or the 25% one?
also what do you guys have to make nblb lvl bubble 3 levels at once instead of 1 ?
what is strange rock? i dont even remember that one
Thanks for the tip, need to give my friend some advice before he heads to church
Yes. The right side can give you 25%, 50% and 100% offers
i do 1% for 50%
usually spam 1/5/10% ones until the right one changes to 100%
twinning 
i did what yami said after cat god or so, think i just spammed left side before that
some said if you have the bubble that give chance to not consume divinity when offer you can go gamba left side
Stamps โค๏ธ
You always hit the left side until the right side shows 100%
okay all right
Rip pigs, losing massive amounts of stamps
oh right, that thing
the 50 % now costs 49
standing leaves snake quest
such good value
it's low just go for 50% 
Ive done those quests before ES was a thing...
I've decided to ignore this swine 
Same 
but that was on my old account
alI got is this one.
Ngl when I was starting off doing w1 content not once did I ever think, "yeah, I need 4 strange rocks for the quest.... But what if I got 10,000,004 instead?"
ye... sadge
happy to help 
You dont really need the quest stacks though
But they are 2% damage
u kinda do for 200 GS equinox
If we get a bonus character they're gonna be a w1 main ngl
not all but u know...
You don't need any for 200
I locked myself out of every quest stack mentioned in this conversation and got 200
It's just easier
greenstack hampters
well ye, it's easier to farm that shit than a greenstack of ghosts or some shit
You dont even need ghosts lol
greenstack joe pickle ๐ข
why is everyone so literal... it's an example XD
The secret is to just farm statues
Which you should be doing anyway so its not even that bad
ew
i wonder what rare drop is easiest to gs, i guess woodulars maybe. or perhaps frisbee if that counts even if its in first slot
I was farming beans before equinox and then just kept farming them after
Only difference was I stopped turning statues in every day
My dream 
what if it require more gstack in w6 release when you deposit those statues after completing current dream ?
"i was born in the beans, molded by them. by the time i saw a greenstacked power statue i was already a man"
Stack them again
pain 
Youre acting as if stacking statues is some crazy concept
GS 
no autoloot life
Statue farming is literally the entire endgame
Best keychain in the game
no doubt
w6 gonna introduce some wonky statue types, or maybe even another duder that wants like 1mil kachows or something
I actually deposited all of them after 200 and have 3 of them stacked again just waiting for W6 incase we get more onyx statues for the % deposit bonus
Soo close now
tfw first world 6 quest is like, "alright, time for some new skills, get a ketchup greenstack first"
sneaking right back into eearly game content to redo it
Technically because it's now a quest item again you can greenstack it again
Even then you statue farm anyway
;P
And candy the ketchup
And you will greenstack it if you want those precious w6 skills
when W6 drops, contract is still going to be at beans
glad I skipped this
This stupid crystal is gonna mess up my coin count.
Its not my fault its the best map in the game 
tbh I don't understand why beans
spittin straight facts
BEANS
๐ ฑ๏ธeans
like fastest power statue whatever, but like, you get those from like every crystal mob on every world
Beans has a lot of mobs
why not frogs for the heart statue
straight lines
frogs would be such a cursed map for dk
wait frogs I mean giga
o
Lower mob count. 21 vs 14
finally some decent gains
I'll test each for an hour tomorrow
good soup
@open lava
here is my bonus from voidwalker talent
big numbah
Not bad, eh?
Why don't you just trust us?
Beans will give a 50% higher orb every time. Higher Orb -> More Statues
honestly the name is gold
no need to test lmao
@elfin cape he chose it
Beans have no statue in their drop table whereas gigas do, so I'm curious how they compare
They dont compare at all because the statue drops from mobs are irrelevant
All your statues are from crystals
It's not a lack of trust, I like getting hard numbers
gaming in a suit feels different
are you seducing numbers 
it feels like thecontract is trying to tell you the numbers have already been run
And even if gigas somehow did drop more of their statue it would only be that one statue
the results are in
Every other drop would be worse
wow i really need to work on cooking more
And plus its the health statue which is borderline useless anyway
I haven't seen the results run and if the only time I'm wasting on testing is mine and it's something that I enjoy and satisfies me isn't it all fine?
only use is GS
I'm not expecting to find wildly different results, I just want to understand more exact numbers for each
I was asked if I was seducing numbers but actually the numbers seduced me 
the results will most likely be wildly different
what bubbles should i pr
due to lower mob cap
I meant wildly different from what they should be based on you and other more experienced players's experiences
fastest way to get lucky lads is still dread mine? is it with any class?
Does mman deserve this?
Fastest for Vman is dreadlo - Most efficiency would be DK active farming Crystals
btw whats your damage? and what could it become if you left "true endgame"
you need too sacrifice 3 of the greatest weapons in the game....
Like I said, not a lack of trust, I just like to test things for myself sometimes, it helps me understand how exactly things work
You are still farming crystals on a DK. That's all that matters 
I will be farming gigas on ES
And an hour will not make or break your game
lol no that's awful now that I have choccy
doing the math lets you know how it works alot better than "let me test it". At least that's my experience from watching people argue on reddit
true gamers farms crystals on BM
Bubo would be sad
Dw I don't use reddit
True gamers farm crystals with 1 in 2k chance on BM
true gamers farm crystals on bubo because addicted to alchemy
yes...that reminds me, i still need to get that last wis on this guy
and no choco chip
a walter white gif of his whole "let's cook" thing edited to read "let's cranium cook" would be perfect here
that would make me true gamer, and that cant be right
someone who understands how pictures can move to form videos should make that gif
jesse we need to cranium cook
idk lvl 560 sounds pretty gamer to me, you can't even get that high in dark souls
mr. white we're all out of craniums man, maybe we should take a break
ofc
564 now actually lip smack
lmfao the name
greenstack gold kebabs
WisdomManMan?
or Balljoepickle
tbh I thought my names were kinda silly before I joined the idleon discord and boy was I wrong
these are my personal favorites.... the dk's name is litterally just "fishing rod" because he was meant to be a fishing bot
and then there is just "grethe" that my sister named
My DK is named East Virginia because he works in the mines 
Adorable 
bowseph bowstar is the only one im proud of
I wonder what this one does?
All of my men/women know their battle cries
really creative xD
I expected QSQS
chemichal warfare lol
I'm a history nerd ๐
how conventional
I feel normie in comparison
Fritz Haber would have been good
Mines worst ๐
Best joke I've heard all day โค๏ธ
whats the story behind deals danny?
Is it worth it to make new sets of serrated rex rings with additional upgrade slots from post office and kattlekruk upgrade stones?
I just realized that the genie in W2 gives eight one hour time candies upon completing their first quest
Probably Al Capone's son, twice removed
yeah they are really cheap
I didn't know how stats worked at the beginning so I maxed his luck first and maxed the luck PO Box first
Which is maybe not a bad thing for an ES
THE LUCK PO BOX? ๐คฃ
Well, you must have never read my #1183482341474172938 !
real gamers max miriad first
(Casual plug)
How will he benefit from his deals if he has no luck
*Real gamers must unlock myraid first
he will be financially ruined
this discord message is sponsored by....
Dude should try investing in index funds
also how does shovel nugget roll ?
Zoomie Zoom was named for the same reasons; I picked the star sign that gave 3% MS without realizing archers would actually be much faster than wizards
Wellington lover 
wellington?
how come
Archers move much faster than wizards?
That's a complete lie!
1000%MS compared to 300%Ms, nothing! ๐
East Virginia lives in the mines, Ballmer's Peak is named for... an xkcd comic technically? and lover's lane is named cause second archer and the first sounded like a scenic location
You think I'm going to love Wellington after this?
100%
I'll only do it on my mman, at most
i only love lab 
I love lamp
I love programming jokes ๐
I see you are sharp
I mean, there's this one joke that all programmers are Italian
You get it, right? ๐
well yeah, cause they only write spaghetti code
Lmao
+1 pipe bomb delivered to your mailbox
Oh wait a minute, those aren't good
-1 pipe bomb delivered to your mailbox ๐ฅณ
+1 pipe bomb to my mailbox means my credit card offer spam is in danger
you never asked how many pipe bombs you already have in your balance
He has no enemies
just a bad pfp XD
My highest damage SB is at 3Q
Why so midgame? 
In a normal farming setup. Not sure about a meme setup
No doot 
Fine I'll fix my pfp, google, get me an image of a rat with a knife
Good
so NBLB gives you like 30 t damage every time it hits QS?
we are the pfp police ๐
Indeed we are
That's a possum but I appreciate the effort and possums
Every click on quick slap is a click not on a sampling bubble (or bob)
Shhh
Literally first time changing from default pfp
But he looks cute and dangerous
Just print gold if you want damage 
look at my pfp
Does it look daangerous?
It looks like Santa the red pandah
good to see that that does eventually become good 
I'd be astounded if you were on a character that's not DK
Yeah, it's trash
I need to change one
I do have to play bubo sometimes to keep the clicks going
Join us 
I play bubo about 2-3 hours a day and thats good enough for me
you seem like an avid QS denier
Yeah QS belongs on nblb
honestly I'm just reminded of the, I think, Isaac Asimov quote, "there are two possibilities: either we are alone in the universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying"
Agreed ๐
this is on my DK. almost as much damage as yours, less than half the level 
Yeah but damage also doesnt matter
Because either my friends will ask me why I suddenly have a discord profile pic and why it's a rat with a knife or they'll just go, "yeah that makes sense", and both are equally terrifying
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The price isnt in the amount its in the opportunity cost
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Atom clicks can go into any bubble you want
My warrior cant reasonably print for any bubble I want
My atom clicks are more valuable than 1 single printer slot
true, I wouldnt atom base stat bubbles
but then again I have a very hard time printing coconuts
Also damage is about to become hella useless in W6 for all the people who hard push QS
why lmao
The only real benefit is to hit multikill cap on gmush and that will be doable without QS
rip qs will no longer be enough to punch down dough
if lava makes mob's hp go to 1Q for the first mob I'll quit
unless lava adds a base damage bonus that outranks QS, any damage modifier will just add ontop of QS, letting me and you get more materials from mobs in w6
hooray my irl build is not ruined by investing in qs
Except were going to get so many materials so quickly even at our current damage numbers that it wont really matter much
watch lava accidentally make something cost 100m instead of 1m
and take 6 months to fix it
And thats not even accounting for the inevitable W6 power creep to inflate our damage further
I have a question regarding mega crit, whats the point of it if i theoratically can already 1hit every mob, cause crits dont count towards mob afk kill rate right?
At the level QS pushers are going for it will be
damage won't be useless but increasing damage to multiple Q levels will have very little overall benefit to the account
big number become bigger number 
I will have just as easy of a time doing anything I need to as the QS memers
true
number go up = dopamine go up
Mega crit was more important before we were really oneshotting everything consistently. Back when poison from bubo at w4 was meta.
It still benefits your damage in other ways: ES portal kills, killing hard bosses (See: NM kattle with vman)
It just doesnt add enough value to justify it
what are you pushing rn with atoms if I may ask?
The best case use for QS is ES portals
probably diamond chef
But ES is also dogshit so that doesnt do much
Excuse me ES is brilliant for causing game lag 
And currently I'm going through and pushing a lot of stuff to 96-97% as well as a healthy mix of bob
Genius
slow game in hard boss fight = more reaction time, pro move
would be funny if lava add an insane amount of HP to w6 making QS needed 
Contract doesnt need qs
If the QS memers take it too far lava will just nerf the quadratic bubbles to be linear
but normal people would have needed it if something like it were to happen
And if I need it then the average player is fucked
fucked is putting it very, very lightly
wait there's already logs, multiplicatives, exponentials, and also quadratics?
I should've paid attention in maths
there could be a mob contract could do with ease but normal people / most people would need alot of QS to do
easily
However if lava does that he'll be expecting the game to provide buffs in world 6 to account for that
we might be looking at some insane rift stuff who would requier people to do QS if they want it fast
Yeah I'm also trying to account for W6 power creep too
but isnt that the same as we all can easily do tremor wurms, but the w5 rushers struggle with it?
progressign an account to the stage of "not needing QS" might be very long
I dont currently multikill cap gmush but I definitely will after a few weeks of W6
kid in highschool maths: when am I ever going to use any of this in the REAL world
Teacher: Well, one day you may play an idle game
not the same
1000 hits to kill one mob
contract has an acout that takes very long to develop for most guys
QS is basically the easy way to get that kind of dmg
and im not suprised if stuff like QS will be a "quick fix" for high rift lvls etc in the future
We have to soak it in a solution?
I cant wait for the QS nerf 
my only problem with QS in any way is that it's a crutch for missing damage which also slows down your account progression (As you're not atoming the good stuff)
id rather see QS get a cap than a nerf
10k cap forexample
that would actually make sense for QS
atleast for the time beeing
I feel like base damage in general is probably going to get the weapon power treatment
i would like to have a general cap on alchemy, so you actually can finish it
there's an effective cap on most bubbles as they have diminishing returns
it can be high like 10k per bubble but atleast a theoraticla cap
it's only the handful of good linear bubbles that matter beyond that
10k isnt high at all
noooooooooo.... my GT
You cap bubbles at 10k and endgame dies
Bob, bubble 1, and grind time
and then qs that scales
10k cap for QS is fine
people were pissed when lava added the 170 cap onm the cauldron itself, I don't have enough popcorn to deal with a theoretical bubble cap
i agree we cant 10k cap all bubbles. but QS would die off in w6/7 if it had 10k cap
which would be great
watch lava cap it at 10k and then scale the difficulty of w7 and beyond on having 10k QS
maybe a mechanic from w2 shoulndt carry people too w7 
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Add a new type of stat like prowess. Mobs get more hp the more base damage you have, mitigated by prowess 2 
That suddenly makes a whole lot of sense
i wouldnt mind
we need hard stuff ๐
but tbf, W3 printer will carry through W8
watch lava then start selling damage bonuses in the gemshop 
Why is my w2 colosseum bugging between waves, it takes a long time to complete and cant skip kast wave
Took me almost all 5min to complete one
best way to get hard is to go to gym and work out those flabby arms
my bob would lose like 4 months of progress
skilling nodes count as mobs
I'd quit if that happens
hp prayers on
had a cap been implemented when he first added atoms I don't think we'd have had quite the same problem
you could even have increased the cap with each subsequent world
You have to finish tem? How do People stomach farming these then
but it's too late now
no, you have an hp prayer on making it last longer
The Midas minded?
Strawberry hat guy still chillin' in lab?
Yeah the only way I could see a cap even being remotely reasonable for endgame is if its like 50k or something
yep
Don't use Midas, Jawbreaker or Big Brain Time and you finish a Colo in 1 minute and 15 seconds
then the race for capped bubbles would begin
50k cap, then town skills in w6/7/8 can raise it? Would work
Yeah they probably would need to go up at some point
you are not reading.
The prayers increase the time they are alive, and nothing you do will decrease that time, except for removing the prayer
If we get a hard cap I'll definitely start candying to cap everything
nodes time scales with hp so prayers that increase hp, increase the time the nodes last
nodes are just mobs that can't move or be damaged. When they spawn, they have an invisible hp that drains over time.
HP prayers increase that hp, making them take longer to despawn
Next wave of mbos won't spawn until they go
Honestly wouldnt even be a long race tbh
guess lava forgot to add a % sign in that part of the code
The hardest part would just be the crazy amount of liquid you need to farm in a short period of time
The biggest problem at capping alchemy is that currently, it's the only thing that really goes to infinite right?
You put a cap on and the endgamers get bored quicker
yeah.... all the other attempts at "endgame content" hasnt really gone as planned
#Rift
#Equinox
#BobJoePickleVial2?
most of it done in a day XD
You completed Rift in one day?
rift and equi were actually fairly cool ideas imo, lava just underestimated the endgamers
Yeah it'd probably only take me a very rough estimate of like 10k hours of candy to cap a stat bubble assuming 50k
I didnt, but others did
I've used more candy on pearler shells than that lol
"Underestimated"
Lava's damage was weaker than mine....
On my old 5B damage account
Those people are too ovp
I reached eldritch in about a day and I wasn't even a midgamer then tbh
I think I got stuck at around rift 17 or something on the first day
I reached rift 30 and I was early game
my wife's more casual than even I am and she has ruby cards unlocked by now ๐
Bubo 8 mil finally
Old pfp was better
๐ I'm swapping this one out within a month
She's better than me, at least!
fomo pfp
yeah she didn't lose access to her email ๐
๐ I'll defeat her soon enough
Oh wait a minute, that'll probably take a year or two
Since I'm f2p
But, I mean, rammy plush will never leave me!
the only progress she makes is when I bully her to do stuff ๐
currently she's doing NM kattle on all 10 characters but that was of her own free will
the only good part of leveling SB ig ...
How to get this stupid recipe drop from suggmas x_x
She's insane >;3
soon I will be free of this hell
You pray
Next up: Goldric Portraits?
nah, hampters
You count how many royal ashes you've dropped:
Royal ashes have 1000x the drop rate of the recipe so the average player gets it by 1k. If you're unlucky, it takes longer (took me 5.5k)
I think I got it in first 5 min of active ES
I finished the suggma vial before having it ๐
got like 10 ashes before I did recipe
I will slash you 
just dont miss any vitals
genuinely terrified w6 gloves might be even rarer
oh god
I'll miss all of em! >;3
I'm terrified Unlocks will never be used ever again
about 200 royal ash over drop rate then
I'm terrified Unlocks will never gives us a decent amount of gems again
I'm terrified W6 won't be a banger
there was at least some indication this would happen at some point, there's 8 worlds and only 7 unlock slots
I'm terrified that I'll never git gud again 
lava could always remove them 
I've killed 50m suggmas on my ES tho so it should have dropped 25m kills ago
not how it works I'm afraid
that implies you were gud in the first place 
Kill doublers (lab, nobisect), multikill, kill per kill all don't count towards the recipe
that's why we measure using the ashes instead
Unless we spent them 
yeah but there's only one thing to spend them on, and most people don't...do it that much
like this is a terrible stamp ๐
I mean both drops give you the same thing
the non-rare and rare one
pretty nice early on when u first get to w5
It's not a terrible stamp if it applied to vman
But it doesn't.
it's still terrible cause you can just level the bubble
"Oh hey I managed to get all the W5 recipes except for one pushing all the chars thru to mongos"
mhmm
ugh bunn vial gonna take a while 
Missing Suggma recipe 
Cute bun-bun
Sakori, would you like to do a Kahoot?
Is it true that even after you get all star signs infinite, that equipping signs still matters? If so, is it because of star sign doubler chips?
yep you got it
yes only if you have doublers
the three you equip can be doubled
Dang I was hoping I found forget about them forever
There's a 50q idleon kahoot I did once
Not even started to get any star signs infinite yet
I was hitting beans with my vman and noticed I leveled my fishing and worship. what talent is causing this and how to I get more? ๐
I can start one, if you guys want! XD
I think you also have to equip it to get a sanic ring if you need one