#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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the first click of many
welcome to hell
hm ok. is there a sigil tierlist anywhere
I'm not quite 1h-ing gold ore atm
not really but most of them are kinda shit so not many to choose from 
yeah you can really eyeball sigils quite easily
Sewermonke how do I increase the amount of resources I get
this is what my sigils look like
Can I do it through getting the gods?
bet hope to get there one day
time to upgrade sigil rate stuff
it'll help a bit especially if you have doot, but it all comes down to improving your skills through alchemy/cooking/stamps to get better resamples
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those are catseyes. I'm convinced it's catburglary as a skill now haha
it's totally heisting
when you realize w6 is probably still at least 2 months away 
blue jewelthief cat npc for the heisting skill
was a hint all along
that's only like 2 hourly clicks at least no big deal
im running out of non-painful things to do
@vagrant mountain by any chance can you check my IE and tell me what I could fix in order to get more resources
this reminds me of the office paper clip assistant ๐
"I see you're trying to rob a palace, can I assist with that?"
sure, what do you need?
Clippy is in batch 2 companions 
i think i already have it https://reaper100.idleonefficiency.com/
finaly
and your account is in shambles
I'm gonna avoid specifics because it'll take too long but work on these for now:
- take samples on all of your characters
- unlock the rest of your stamps
- unlock arctis god in divinity and put all your characters on arctis in lab until lvl 75 lab
- check your sailling often and rush fury relic
- unlock the rest of your bubbles (fury relic will help)
thats definetly the end XD
while all your characters are in the lab, try to catch up on every skill you can; i forgot to mention cooking, you are missing a lot of meals there
stuff like unlocking starsigns
farming cards
pop obols etc
Ok ty
np
out of chems 
How do i get more slaves?
Go the right of the dock
20h
Just wanna make sure. You probably mean Goat God not Arctis 
I unlock it yestarday but nothing happen it did't gived me another slave
@vagrant mountain wait what should I have people like bubo, bm and mm printing
yeah that's probably what I meant, I had doot since i started w5 so i've never actually linked to any gods
Arctis gives you the Lab Link without being in Lab. So it doesn't make much sense
bubo prints logs and bm and mm can just print stuff for refinery
Goat is Divinity gains while in Lab
Alr
yeah i definitely meant goat god then 
Few more hours 
Kids these days have never linked to any deities and it shows 
Replace it now for Yondergreen quest 
try to keep up old man 
But 2% skill efficiency 
After W6 I will surely go and do my quests 

notice how the only green ones are account wide quests 
Even did the W3 Dungeon one 
My bubo is one yondergreen quest away from finishing every quest he can do 
it was for the equinox 
2.2k so far 
I have had "do quests" on the top of my todo list forever. Yet it somehow never gets done 
i did some questing on the BB a day or two ago for some more cooking eff 
Yeah the quest efficiency talent actually has a decent impact
think i had 3130/day with kruk obols in fam tab, it's like 2900~ without them
If you hit that 65m u technically never need to click Nuggets again. But it would require a high snail
No thats when you actually click more because the end is in sight
Couldn't do my chem chain today. Only had 2 chems and I wanna start with atleast 5
take some plz
the one area of the game ducky has put in the most work on his account and still isn't getting gains
he likes the pain
I could use a few
Hey gang
Trying to get alch go brrr stamp
Is there a preferred character to do it on? Should I just burn through candies?
It's dropped by W2 Crystals or Palm tree. Do you have good crystal cards?
Cards are okay but no choco chip
I probably wouldn't waste candys on a stamp that you will get while farming crystals for either statues + glass shards or dice obols
Choco chip is returning on 26/27 december
Yeah fair, thanks for that, will wait for choco after Christmas
slow time to farm for gems 

I categorically refuse to farm gems through amarok. This stupid f*ck can't even properly drop his items, so autoloot leaves like half of it on the ground.
i don't blame you tbh
I get a new key ~80% of the time, and more gems than keys. I imagine people with DR in the 20's get one almost every run
keys/gems are unaffected by DR
i knew gems were, didn't know keys were too
you can have a max chance of 40% for a key and 56% for a gem
although that stuff rolls more than once. why and how often I don't know though
It would be nice if Gems scaled with drop rate. Even 5 guaranteed gems per boss would be niiiiice
is there a divinity link guide? like if i unlocked w5 last zone all on characters what should i link and suchs
such
gems should just scale with boss difficulty
Yes :)
then we would literally swim in gems ^^ The much more reasonable version would be to have gems scale with boss difficulty
something that was promised in the first place but never delivered
No
That's what I'm running. I already finished sailing so I swapped my Vman from Purrmep to Goharut. My first ES is second linked to Arctis, second ES second link is Omni
That's what you could do
or just unlock all shop for free
We'd have too many gems, we'd develop gem inflation and boss keys are too easy to farm.
And then we'd easily be able to do arcade which gives even more gems time candy etc and would just remove the point of the game really
I almost forgot to buy my pickle 
wait, what about lab?
Hopefully u haven't forgot your Colo Tickets
not sure how that works if buying arcade balls with gems is one of the worst things to do with gems
Char 3,7,8,9,10 is manually in lab
Omni 
Gimme more procs on omni for my refinery 
as for gem inflation. how is that different from now? we can theoretically get even more gems/key right now because we use one key after another and get it back 40% of the time. Assuming only gems would scale and not the keys, we would lose a lot of keys by doing one run that costs a few dozen keys instead of single key runs
Not everyone can run macros on their PC
Harriep is for the nice 6x prints on my mages. 3x print on my active dk, 3x print for skilling vman -> Vials, will swap him to omni soon
Omni is nice for everything that it gives -> Sailing, Gaming, 3D Printer, Refinery. Everything benefits you
It would take less time 
yeah it's not inflation at all, it's just so I don't spend 3 hours at normal amarok
And unfortunately the W2 merit says each boss has x chance to drop a gem. Lava would need to code it differently
that doesn't sound too difficult, just scale the number of rewards given by the number of keys spent
you would still get less gems than i get if i do normal amarok
Lava will not change stuff he already implemented
considering the spaghetti code, lava might have just realized that he doesn't know how to do it after promising us scaling nightmare bosses ^^
How is lava going to get his money man ๐คฃ he's already made them easy enough to get if he scales them what's the point
People already easily get thousands to tens of thousands of keys
how does lava get money if i can farm keys from colo, and farm colo from PO box, and farm pens from gameplay
GGNewbs is in the 1k oak club now 
Midgame acquired 
Because its more difficult for you to do so most people would just ๐ณ
can you still get instablab followers on the same character you complete the quest on?
BUT he's an absolute professional at abandoning established systems
However if it only takes 50 runs instead of 250 runs people might actually do it.
Imagine GGNewbs gets doot
#๐future-content-blog those look oddly like acolyte balls from IS. You think that's still skill 2 or already the last skill?
Nvm my question - reading is hard
Think of when games add in exp multipliers like in assassins creed valhala, yh made no difference but people bought it because they wanted to save time or didn't have the time. If you have constant double exp on people would reconsider.
Holy shit eyes got me chubbed up
Next week for sure
of all the MTX options you could've come up with, it was assassins' creed valhalla
1100 balls from the bonus game and wasn't even a jackpot 
Was a controversial one
So I actually remember it unlike every single other game that does it
When arguing about that, you should remember the order of things. Nightmare bosses came first when infinitely farming keys was not a thing at all. Even then, lava didn't do as he said despite there being no reason to do so. I'd rather have a limited amount of keys but can turn them into gems quickly than the option to do it infinitely but it's incredibly annoying and I need to do it for hours for a significant amount
Oh if the keys are limited yh I see no reason why not
But currently they're way too easy to get especially w5
But then you have to consider the fact you'd be time gated out of rare drops for a long time :/
That's the problem currently. Do you really think people with tens of thousands of keys are using them manually? I sure as hell don't ^^ I can watch a movie or two and do it absentmindedly but not for 12 something hours. So you have either people that are don't have the time to use even a thousand keys while others use 10k via macros.
That will only ever go up
w5 are not the easiest keys to get. not by a long shot
W2 w3 collo yh
W4 the tickets for collo become expensive and po box farming is a pain
exactly. no future world will ever compare to ever growing keys from w2/3 colo through DR increases
I have 1200 colo tickets right now that I could turn into 80k w3 keys but when would I ever use them?
max....is a difficult estimate but I'd save up 20k something gems
damn
or at least 10k for the most important upgrades
So what you really want is actually an auto renew for collo and World bosses
it looks like skill 2 is done
auto renew?
they want a way to save time
Automatically restarts it.
no you are going to sit there for 27 hours straight
You know lava ain't gonna make gems aint easier to get ๐ญ
cant wait for w6 pet rotation
I'd still prefer scaling boss difficulties but at least that would get rid of the difference between the 2 major groups. The ones that can't even get rid of their keys because they don't click 24 hours 7 days a week, and the other party that uses macros for it ^^
Yh of course it'd be nice
also we are finally gonna get kattlekruk and bagurs links
The 2 new w6 skills ^ I imagine
probably
finally? I dread the day when I have to juggle even more gods without doot 
doot havers eating good
ye I just realized
I regret saying that
One day your gonna give in and give lava your money ๐ญ๐คฃ
no. I might just quit the day we get doot 2.0 or not having doot becomes as problematic as not having auto-loot
Hopefully there is no doot 2.0 :/
that's something I'd rather not think about because it would make money and so it's highly likely to happen
cant really make much money with gem items due to how easy they are to grind
Or if they do change pet rotations at least give some pets which link you with certain gods perm
it is not a question of "if we get twoot" it is about "when"
That would make it more playable since you don't really need all God's
there will be another rotation and another pet is gonna have to sit at the top of it
now that's just an excuse. I'm certain lava loves that development because he now has an excuse for money-only items when he could have just limited the amount of keys we can get....that was an option all along and one I'm sure he disregarded on purpose
lava said it will and he doesn't go back, does he?
even if it takes to w8 or whatever
Anything past level 200 pet arena or is that where I can stop
oh hey a captain that has an awesome and a absolutely shit roll combined
twoot ๐ ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
actually better than all my captain even with the cloud roll
goodbye captain o. hello captain o
ive been sailing against mushroom island with ~ 10 ships for a month. Still no artifact. Should I move on to unlocking islands and hopefully snagging some artifacts elsewhere? not sure what to do here. trying to improve boats as i can, but its slow going
are you using the sb talent that lets you upgrade chests?
yes, and i check every 10 hours, so it rarely kicks in
if you are that is bad because you just want more and more and more rolls
how long does your boats take to get to that island?
10 hours so it rarely kicks in?
that sounds like your ships take almost 10 hours for one tour
because if it is much longer than 2 hours as it seems you better just work on upgrading and unlocking extra boats
yeah, that is bad
2 hours is the lowest limit of trips and you should only farm artifacts when your ship(s) can make trips in that time
up through island 7, everything unlocked easy. didnt expect mushroom island to be so much worse
ok, ill drop back and work on upgrades
you want as much rolls as possible ever so you want to upgrade your boats to get to that point
if you are still checking every 10h you may wanna keep the sb11 talent on
if you can check more often than that it is jut better to have the boats waiting
if you want artifacts asap you should turn the SB talent off and check in every 4 hours
i check more often during the day, usually.
yeah, then take it off
that is IF you can maka trips in 2 hours
send the boats to islands they can get to and back at 2h and keep upgrading them
you'll progress much faster
ok, thanks guys
np. good luck on your rolls
Are directional cogs with xp to player % netter than Those with buildrate %?
you can click on your guy and check how much exp they're getting
on the board
but in the end exp is always the best
What card-set do you guys use for pushing gmush kc?
good idea to stack ladles until W6? seems reasonable to think there may be another cooking speed boost there
afk gain
Doubtfull unless a new way to get max plate llevells appears
finally
New Mobs are definitely new super chows
just got jump scared by nugget 
I personally am hoarding my ladles. Those super chows gonna be a nice increase
have 999k just rolled 989k
I still haven't even done supershow on the doot gmush or normal chow'd the equinox ram 
i want more SChows
I haven't Super chowed W5 Mobs 
Gonna candy them when W6 releases
Slacker!
@fast grail could you do like a top account or something? Based on average place across all leaderboards?
Why waste my precious laddle gains, when I can just use 200 candies? 
What's your cooking speed rn? 
wouldn't each system/leaderboard need to be valued differently
Uhh let me check. It's slow
so close
Nah just looking for overall highest across all LBs
IE says 4e33. But I remember having a 8e something when I did my meals yesterday
IT says 2e34
oh yeah, but like a high rank in bubbles means more than TD waves for account progression to get a "most progressed" account overall
Well yeah but I'm not thinking aboutmost progressed or anything like that because those are probably better to just look at most bubbles or whatever. Just who has the top account across the leaderboards we have. Weighting i think becomes too difficult to maintain and is largely subjective
you're probably right, but if some system for weighting could be put together that would be a great addition and measure for accounts
Things like most plants clicked will throw it off for example cause you will have some midgamer that just clicks their life away
plants clicked would have almost 0 value, throw it all into nugget size instead
Is there a list of what all gives xp bonuses to divinity? I've had all my characters there for two weeks now and they're just now approaching 15
Could have top account off the first page and not for tasks because they are things that actually show account progress. Best skill sample and frisbee(mob) sample will be a good indication of overall account progress
Search every bonus in Idleon!
Neat, thanks
Should be something I can do, will add it to the list
At least I got 1 thing over u 
whats the strategy to unlock new tiers? the chance of a t6 feel so slim
chem/log cycling with a handful of t5s on the board
pray
i keep 10 of what im trying to hit a new tier and only click the other 10
my gaming garden can only hold 15 plants
Sorry if this has been asked a ton, but I don't want to max these right?
unless something changed, u Definity want to max those to 170
there's a potential argument to not max cost (to get stuff into atom range sooner) but it doesn't make much difference long term
We are free @signal osprey 
Gonna be 30 in no time 
i dont see how that makes any significant change at all
depends a bit how it works / implemented
but would still make very little difference, correct me if im crazy
For most bubbles yeah it does almost nothing
The ones that are affected its usually a negative though now that atoms exist
Take something like dchef for example which is hard to farm a lot of resources for. No matter how much you try to push your spices you cant level it much on your own so you need nblb to carry it for you
but the way it reduces cost also matters, like does it increase the nubers of "uppgrades" from 50-100 mill?
If you lower its cost it will take longer for nblb to get it to 100m
im probably overthinking it (also in my opinion i wouldnt go out of my way to avoid cot reduction) but i would think the way its implemented would also matter
did any1 do the math for how much it "matters"?
or rather test it
It doesnt make a huge difference but it is objectively worse now
Outside of very early game I guess where you just need as much investment into whatever bubbles you can get just to actually progress your account and cost reduction speeds that up
yeah
also is somewhat usefull on new worlds etc
new bubbles
i guess
tho thats usually very minimal
i think the thing is that we got 90% tag discount and that makes any other discount almost laughable
sure, it is limited to your liquid income but whenever you need to push a bubble with resources you can get that
My DK divinity so bad Contract 
so getting those little discounts won't matter when you wanna push and will get in the way when you want to atom bubbles sooner
i think you didnt quite get the point
Maybe i turn on the bubop for 2 weeks
Gotta get everyone to at least +16 arctis
The exact level depends on big p bubble but its around 130 div with 540 big p
I have some not even 80 
i expected more actually
I was thinking of getting my big p to 95% soon
big P 511 atm and lowest divchar is 107, highest is 141

my div xp/hr isnt the greatest
but even at 1800/hr and my bubo at 138
it was like 2.5-3 months to do 155
DId you forget to have the right stance on? Even in the 150's my ES levels up like every other day
1700 per hour is 40k per day
And then you have a 90% chance for 2x
You're leveling up every day right now 
i was basing it off of a chart that trickz had
maybe that charts xp requirement was off?
Yeah not sure but I do know that my current public IE has my ES at 135 and that same ES is now 157
And my IE upload is from 21 days ago
And he finished a few days ago too and has been back in lab for harriep/omni
So between 2-3 weeks for 135-157 means 3 months for 155 doesnt add up
Unless it means 3 months from level 1 
do you remember how much your ES was getting per hour?
oh a bit higher than my bubo
hmm this was sad
oh my ES is closer cause of the whole specialize thing
Yeah div leveling for 17 arctis honestly wasnt as bad as I expected. If I didnt want my omni back I would go for 18 
Why not just do div now and then 500 in W6
cause i wont hit 155 div by the time W6 is out im guessing? and ill hit all 500s sooner than that
500 also doesnt do anything though
Yeah 5k family is a good goal but I dont get why people want 500 all so much
It doesnt do anything
im a checklist gamer
17 arctis is great for a checklist
If you put everyone on div now you get 17 done before W6
We've still got a solid month to go and I feel like thats optimistic
prayers and such dont make a diff right?
No its just purrmep, stamp, big bubble, and ES talent
hmm
And the sigil but not much you can do there
maybe i atom the big bubble a bit... LOL
Its probably not ideal but also probably not quite as big of a meme as you think
i dont think its a meme at all
That bubble has a pretty slow scaling curve so I would guess you're only like 60% effect
Decent room for improvement
my bubbles at 195
66.1%
a day or 2 worth of atoms on it could get me some decent xp gain
and cut down a few days
is it really worth atoming the bubble ?
Honestly probably not but its also not a terrible choice either
I'd be lying if I said I've never considered it too
for me it might be
if it means hitting +17 arctis before W6
so im not wasting time on it when W6 is out
might aswell give it a few lvls myself
Div levels are pretty big even if you dont have doot 
alright, you guys have convinced me, sending my team to pray
i mean
You can always do more big p as well if you have to
i wouldnt rec doing +17
Mine is 1940
like daln at 1k xp/hr i would say is not worth doing +17
Also keep in mind that arctis always rounds up
So when I say 17 I mean 16.1 in game
rip sending everyone but dk to div kek
i got mine to 1440 yesterday
my dk struggling to get green stacks tho
got it up to just under 1700. still need to max out the ES talent tho, never booked it
ur meant to greenstack with active ES?
Depends on the item. DK is a lot better for any gstacks that come from crystals
if i put everyone on div i cant chem click all day...
Sorry for noob question, but what is +14, +17 arctis...etc
Why?
you get xp active if youre on the altar?
9 div 1 active farmer
1 beans farmer*
oh right yea
I did a couple weeks of bubo for a GT push and used that time to push my DK
Then after that It was back to DK while everyone else did div
Ah and this is only increased through Big P?
and divinity level
my 140 bubo will be putting some work in while everyone is on div i guess
Cooking Speed, Doot, Samples, Stamps, Bubbles, Some of your TDs, Eclipse Skulls
There is many things you are ahead of me, don't put yourself down so easily 
oh wait i need more than a day to finish my gs...
so slow ๐ฆ
I finished my useless sailing sigil a few days ago 
just wait for the w7 sigil later that will be like 200k hours
got better after equinox tho
Unfortunately I dont think I get the W6 sigil before W6 at this rate
it does, but il still take the vial
Although my vial isnt maxed yet so at least I can still get a little bit faster 
afaik that vial is additive with the gem shop stuff
i wonder if they were intended to be so slow
so at the end of the day it didnt make a big diff
as some of then really suck at the point you can have em
maybe it just didn't factor it in?
tbh i felt like it did make a difference
how dare you! i absolutely needed some extra speed for characters under 175% movement speed!
but i also didnt have all the gemshop ones when i got vial iirc
who dosent
how about that vip parchment
I'll do a before and after on the last few vial levels I have after I sample
See what kind of difference it makes
yeah, that will be fun when lava remembers that this exists and the next book is for something like 10000 vip something
the movement speed one is usefull, DR one not as much. who needs DR lategame when we have so much
i did very crude math comparing your screenshot to mine
do you guys hit 22 dr on DK with crystal cards?
and it looks like im at 23.3/hr and youre at 20.7/hr
absolutely not ^^
im assuming you have all the other stuff other than the vial
cause thats only a 12% diff
Any guesses? Old one was 1031k
1200k
im guessing 1032k
4
Thats actually kinda decent then because I checked my vial and it turns out I got that one to 12 so I'm only 1 level off lol
oh no
I am sad...
Before Equinox: 10k, 13k, 15k, 17k, 18k, 19k, 31k
After Equinox: 32k, 75k, 183k, 216k, 658k, 1031k, 1115k
ok then yea its a fairly noticeable diff in terms of rate/hr
@obtuse rover ^
but its still just slow in general lmfao
watch w6 double it
I really thought i'd at least get a 2mil or something.. but come on..
and give it to the next person
1900 nuggets and this sht...
Well at the very least it will speed up a bit with new W6 vials adding vial mastery to the sigil vial
And more importantly it improves the con vial too 
Gaming nuggets suck..
That is, indeed, a worse-than average increase.
My condolences 
Even if it's only like 1-10% of the CC
I dont think lava wants that considering it did work that way at one point
And then it was removed and the sigils were rolled back
youre right it does
2m was going to be <50% chance, but 1.5m would've been reasonable
I want to see a 1b nugget 
i only need to get to 27.7k to get there
I was getting my hopes up.. like high, because you said like new nugget would be around 910-930ish and i was already up at 1.9k, Way bigger range. ๐ฆ
That's a fair point, your max potential was higher after all that rolling, even though statistically the median will be about the same 

with how poorly weighted the nug range is
you kinda need a pretty large range to see a true 50% inc
Gaming is a scam cooked up by big repetitive strain injury to sell more repetitive strain injuries
nah gaming is fine
Yeah but imagine how much less straining it'd be if we just had a filter on the harvest all button so we could "harvest all (except chem)"
Believe me I've done plenty of imagining when it comes to ways to make gaming not the shittiest thing to ever exist
I'm thinking with that sht nugget if i should quit nugget grind
like.. i dont think ill be pushing gaming anymore tbh
I mean its honestly not that bad to get your bonus back up to a range to improve on a 1m nug
The question is what kind of impact will the next nug have
if youre not lucky enough to hit a good snail and put in effort/get lucky on a big nug
youre never going to be in range of the last superbit
well my snail was already lucky
that's why i've been doing the nugget grind here and there, but just feels so slow and dry
I'll say this
whats your snail rank
Anyone who doesnt already have a 10m nug should consider just waiting for W6
Not even because you cant get it by W6 because you can if you really want to
going from 1031k to 1115k and risking getting another sub 1.5-2m is just so damn boring after like hours of chems
23
The reason I say that is because if you dont have 10m by now then I dont think you have the drive to game hard enough to finish the bit even if you do get a good nug
Because realistically getting 10m isnt that hard if you really wanna sit down and game
id rather candy bleach logs for wisdom than click more nugs 
you also have to remember that even when you get the nug + the snail rank you still have to put in the work to build up your other multipliers/fertilizer to even start getting red Qs at a reasonable rate
So if you havent done it yet then it means you dont have what it takes at the current levels of bit multi available
and then even AFTER you build all that up
Just wait for it to get easier and your sanity will thank you
itll still take pure dedicated chem clicking to get 1Q
so...
lmfao
the whole thing is just a giant mess of a pipe dream
To be fair, already got nearly all gaming bit multipliers near max
Far enough to be nearly impossible but close enough that it can cause you pain because you feel like you could almost reach it if you really strained yourself.
i already have purple bits
I found alvins alt
Only things left would be some t7's, few meals that are just regularly time gated and ig some stupid achievements xd
Alvin, my king, I didn't notice you walked among us 
I do still have over 100+ fertilizers that could help ig
its me 
yea even before my snail reset
it was 90 mins of pure clicking per 1Q
it was pain
who tf is Alvin lmao
wait
i didnt read what he said 
Alvin is the greatest gamer of all time. He has 24 garden slots and multitudinous purple bits.
woahh he sounds so cool
what happened to my logs 
He is so cool he lives in the shadow realm
We worship those who are mighty enough to have purple bits. 
and a 50k nugget, don't forget that part
nerfus did his at 219 achievements
90mins?! that would mean like 150 hours of clicking for it ?
uh yea dude
Truly, he kept humble. He found the bonuses and had no need for an ostentatious nugget.
i somehow lost some prints
Thing is still that if something is "possible" it's still more motivational than not at all possible
Go do it, then. ๐
thats why im still going at it
even though with my snail reset it takes me a whole day to get 1Q

Interesting Lost 7b
from putting them in lab
My snail won't rise above lvl 10.....
Honestly i'd rather be active crystaling. It just doesn't seem worth it just for 1 meal
1 meal is worth a lot
Void + plat chef
Certainly worth the time taken off of being active killing things.
It's only like 5-20 minute fight depending on your setup.
- bone marrow or whatever it is called
oh nvm
Quicker if you have decent pet power
Iirc mine took around 4 mins in a luck set up and if I failed it was within the first minute
@dapper prism at this point though i do kinda wanna get to 1B max nug range
cause thatll be a good sad moment
Especially for a .001% increase so sad
does a new world get new achievements right away or do those come later?
It did?
Pretty sure it did?
idk why I thought the shop came later
a new world of achievements would actually net a pretty good inc in multi
would be nice
Hello Rex!
hi
Long time no see my friend
yeh thats why im curious
My guide 
I also lost my account
how
So, fresh account with a doot? ๐
Used a college email a while ago
Nope! Lava wouldn't approve of it ๐
I'm considering restarting
I'm pretty much through world 5, but I forget on how to optimize anything
Also, still can't get to 200 on pet arena even though it's basically free for me at this point because my device sucks
uhh I think I have a few
thanks
@barren otter whats your CON XP bottom left inside con (from cogs) ?
You need autoloot 
?
I may just end gaming for when im active doing beans and do a bunch of cog clicking ig xD
only on 7k%
you roughly know you minimum cog % ?
~130s ig
Is BM the best for running tds?
you dont have corner directionals ?
of the 50k cogs ive clicked i have not once seen an xp/player xp corner cog
Do you need a certain quest active to get bolt cutters to drop? I was dumb enough to just sell the ones I had before using them, and now I can't seem to get them to drop-
filter drops?
Triple checked it wasn't filtered, I guess I'm just unlucky-
If you're in w5 you should easily be getting them unless you havnt touched anything that gives you DR yet
I'm only at a 3.76 DR with gear and cards equipped, I only just started W5 within the last week or so
For BM also, im just using the vine skill + king fu kick yeah, there's nothing else is his skills that helps?
For td I mean
shouldnt need kick for most of em btw
No, just as a safety
The master list for td setups keeps hiding from me, can someone link it plz?
Then def. need to backtrack for it, some info here that can help fresh w5:
#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
fuck
too slow...
im keeping mine up too 
Sub 5 dr in w5
amazing
Hopefully enough to get me pushed to nan
oo i missed a lot of words in my sentence. what dmg are ppl going to have that just sneak into w6
Oh i would guess pretty low
50mil
Not very much is required to beat normal kruk, right?
only enough to kill moles rly
Add that with nerfed portal reqs and nerfed hp
oh yeah
Yeah, I figured that I'd be able to get this within a few minutes of active ES cuz wormhole, but I still needed to come to gmush for the caps, cuz alchemy
on this note, what dr is going to sneak into W6...
still sub 5
if u can rush to the next world, drop rate isnt a rushers prio cause that takes time lol
lowest dr W6 world record?
not saying rushing is a bad thing
im so excited to redo sampling tomorrow, ill post the results after ๐ช
Making my alt is really opening my eyes to just how easy it is to ignore everything
Someone asking for help earlier had lower stamp levels in W5 than GGNewbs has and I just reached W3 two days ago
And he had like 2 more vials unlocked as well
yeah i think most people sucked at early game unless they used guides
Making my peanuts 
also just being in the discord helps
its impossible to predict the importance of the stuff that gets introduced early on for late game until you get there
unless ofc someone tells you or you see a guide
Like starsigns, I got them unlocked, then ignored them until W5-
What a mistake that was-
yeah unlocking most of the star signs makes a huge difference
Rip serimoโฆ he will be missed ๐ซก
stuff like that i find is easier to get done if you do it in a full wave for each character
the chem trains have not been good today
What happened
after getting chem is there a point in spending dna or should i save it?
you can't expend it
is the strat for mass crafting just to put a weight on your left mouse button? lol
alt tab is the tech
oh i forgot about that trick
I guess I'm resampling with @signal osprey 
clever
is there a known rate of crafting items per minute? so i can set a timer on my phone lol
We're gonna own the leaderboard 
I misclicked and reset my relic 
it is better to just do the math of how many stuff you want to craft or just listen
I made that mistake once
as the former 11th place I wish y'all luck
Now I remove the sample skill from my bar after I sample

been doing that too
It was a 50 day buff I reset and you dont make that mistake twice
im talking about crafting 100k peanuts
100k peanuts shouldnt take long at all
I just did mine 
If you set craft from storage it should be 2k seconds or so
If you do from inventory a minute or two
so its about 3k items per minute?
Green stack
100 items every 2 seconds from storage. In inventory it gets faster every 2 seconds
So Unless you're crafting bullets for exp it is better to just craft from inventory
Speaking of @signal osprey did you ever get 200 crafting?
finally got the 100k ladles for equinox. what should i do for them? split the kitchens with meals that arent at 40 yet or what would be recommended?
I think ill resample Sunday
I might be able to squeeze out 1b copper
when I get mine I'll just order by least time to cook next and just pick the first ones
Is the midas minded prayer worth using? I'm not immediately seeing a bad side, especially on earlier mobs, but I wanted to check before I go level/equip it
depends on who
and for what
ES usually doesn't want it ever
if you're not farming kills/mats it is good
I'm pacing myself on that one. I'll probably finish in W6 
At the moment I'm farming pop obels on my ES
then you don't want it because of the HP scalling it makes pushing the portal further harder and thats where you get the best drops
Fair enough, thank you
Only time it is ever not worth using is active ES
Or if you cant kill mobs
So get it for my main DK, but leave it off my ES basically?
Yeah. Though worth having on if you're afking mobs or skilling mats for cards.
So, why is it good for AFK, and not active?
I'm guessing the extra mob HP would also lower AFK gains, or am I wrong on that part?
afk doesn't care about mob health on the portals, just base mob health
the whole reason you active ES is for the portals since the higher numbers on them give more and more dr
Oh, sweet, I've been avoiding those prayers like the plague
but higher health % on those make them unkillable a lot faster
Was assuming the extra health would cut down multikill and kills in general pretty bad, but if AFK doesn't care then I've just been missing out
i mean it does but you can easily look at your multikill tiers on the afk screen, sometimes you still are within the same one with the prayer
especially once you get into the bigger damage the ranges for next MK tiers are pretty large
Not with prayer maxed
w5 ones yes
Dmg mk tiers are always 2x. Max midas is a 5x hp multiplier so you lose minimum 2x mk tiers sometimes 3. Only reason mk tiers really matter is for eclipse skulls which you should be candying anyways and for that you would want midas off
why on pc does attacks get selected from first one available but on mobile it goes in order(doesnt look for first one available) resulting in lowe gains?
huh, its always left to right, first one available
Sometimes an attack is 'locked in' while another one comes of cooldown, could be this?
Just found out Serimo went to the great construction board in the sky 
ascended to true endgame
no by mobile it wont go even if 1st attack reset it firsts finishes its "round"
his call me bob is at least 20k
Well, w3 td is not currently possible on mobile with the bug that makes it not hold at 120, unless you are SUPER far along in construction
little behind but chatching up
I wouldn't call myself super far.... definitely late but not endgame.... just need a ton of krakens....like 7
How do people have 20x+ dr? is a lot of it from luck?
Like going from 16x to 20x thereโs not a lot of things I can think of besides just luck stat
Let me spread misformation
Shows all drop rate sources
Thx

















Wth has been going on for the last hour?
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Thnx for the dungeon yesterday ๐
normal day in idleon chat
YW
Got like Trinity and 2 foal yesterday in a second run i love dungeon now was able to one shot zombie frogs
what's the best class to greenstack quest items with?
depends on the item?
Kinda should know that by now ๐
If its a crystal drop, it's DK, if it isnt a crystal Drop and active farmed ES, if you candy it then ES>SB but most do SB due to bars+anvil
ah, so it's same rules as normal
Like, some quest items are direct mob drops, some are way more from crystals.
No reason for the rules to suddenly change tbh
Random Note, those new #๐future-content-blog starting to remind me of:
https://i.imgur.com/LWFwI3Q.png
oh yeah, forgot that was a thing
no not that again 
I finished IS and it's still weird/confusing how the whole material upgrading stuff worked tbh..
Sweet, PC is back up and running, unfortunately i lost all my bookmarks.. and have to redo my presets
IS is very easy
its just that i have to play another game to get a bis in this game 
for like 20 -42 days i think?
The only goal is Realm, then you ignore 99% of the game for most of the time, once Realm hits breakpoint you essentially unlock it all
glad that job over
, thanks to the early version of Realm
early version of realm was so broken but honestly I had a bunch of fun with it
kinda sad how it got nerfed so hard became almost unplayable
I wasnt around then,
but even whatever realm is now is still broken af
oh yeah the buffs are still great, just progressing through realm kinda ground to a halt at a certain point at least from what I can recall
you need rainbow damage to beat round 90 and you basically need to finish the rest of the game to unlock rainbow damage lol
what food do you use for mp snapshotting?
Gold grilled cheese but it doesn't need to be swapped rly if u have the food slots
gotchu
and then you can realize how far behind on construction you really are ๐
that was my feeling lol
Thats a big one
do you know if the refinery bonus is multiplicative? Like did I actually just double my salt gain?
most importantly....salt to lvl up refinery is 1m max...output increases but salt to lvl up doesnt
so once you hit 1m salt it stays that way per lvl
does the pirate flag drop increase increase the chances of dropping a plunderous coin?
nope
struggling through the 75 pirate flag score rift challenge
My towers are all ~50, and that is no where near enough to hold 20 waves from 110-130
idk how to get a high pirate flag score
You've got the vman upgrade for flag right?
does afk gain affect divinity?
low pirate flag talent level and much dmg
Hi, im a bit confused on the wording of this artifact, does it give the bonuses of shrines in all worlds?
Yeah
Okay I will try that thanks
ah alr ty
they just don't level up unless you're on the same map/world (depending on if you have the lab thing active too)
ie shrines are in w4 then only characters in w4 will contribute to shrine level
woooooo just finished all my eldritches
Sheesh thatโs gotta feel good. Canโt wait, havenโt hit an arti in like 2-3 weeks since getting eldritch fury lol
it took me a longgggg time
what are the best characters to do rift 31 on? The 2 lava skulls. i have my ES on auto for liek 45 mins and still cant get one am i just really unlucky
unlucky or not enough damage
https://youtu.be/NNgg4VtcfXM?si=c0Txw8Vz82KvEamU If you want to go bubo
2b on my es
unlucky or not enough damage because you dont kill enough portal mobs
but leaving it on active should work normally?
does the deathnote kills prayer work for gmush
whatb do you mean
or is it technically just the kill itself that it's looking for
what do you mean
well i tried leaving my DK on auto but it kills everything too fast so i just lose the skulls. Leaving my ES on active should eventually build up to a lava skull right
portal kills are death note kills, multikill kills are deathnote kills, kill kills are deathnote kills
Yes and no, the skulls can go on portal mobs and when they disappear you lose the skulls
mmm I guess gmush does say it ccan be viewed at the deathnote, but I would've figured it wouldn't count that lol
I think youre confusing yourself or me
all and any kills work for green mushroom kills
that are counted to deathnote
its just that simple
yeah so the prayer that gives x% deathnote progress is just extra gmush kills
yes if youre killing green mushrooms
Yh I had the same issue
You could just unequip some of his skills
just do it active takes like 5 min
every time i get to the purple or blue skull it doesnt spread :((( lava hates me
Just unequip skills and leave it active for an hour or so
3k total plates and almost base 50 all meals
Is there any pattern to the log mini game? Seems purely random
i feel cheated from my E40
Is there a way for characters that aren't active in divinity to gain divinity exp?
1.008E40
so why wont it show it to me 
that kinda lika saying you would feel cheated from a million if it was in 100 bills ๐
the only two stances i know are mantra and tranQi
i would guess it dosent give it to you in E40 form as it would be less accurate. one does not use 3 decimals when writing numbers on standard form
Mantra gives exp to everyone, not just those on divinity?
mantra sucks big time
Why's that?
many multipliers dont work with mantra
just weird that it goes from one digit number to two decimal places to two digit number to two decimal places
if the tooltip for mantra is to be trusted yes it should give exp to every character i currently have all my characters on tranQi and didnt take them out of lab(with goat) till after they all hit lvl 75 in lab so that i can get deathnote+greenstack items+chow.zow
wdym?
it is inconsistent with its degree of accuracy lol
the E40 etc means 10^40
lol
one never knows
but still writing it as e39 would be more accurate in your scenario
im just saying it's inconsistent with displaying the value
Fair enough, I'm just wanting to get some levels on my main for the minor linking bonuses, but not wanting to leave em there for a week or two to do it
quick go click dchef
not gonna waste my watches on that kek
ill probably get it when i level up a meal or two tomorrow
youre an animal
oh wait your snail reset?
correct
working on thius shit
im trying to hit 50M
ill have 5k+ gems and that should hopefully be enough for w6 launch
assuming a new bundle comes out that gives me 4k gems
nah
Not enough chiz Keys 
lmao
took me like 2 days to do 15k







