#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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idk how much cooking can do xD but i just went through and for the last few days have been getting everything to like 40 ish from 20-30 o.o i gotta work on getting the last few spices tho
Nobisect?
With as many damage modifiers as we have these days, just a game of 20 questions where the host doesn't have the answer ๐
dumb thought, but maybe it was this
haha but from 500 mil dmg to 700 mil is not exactly a little
Same as the rest
Okay
Just gotta hope Looter rolls the Nuke basically
14 rolls of defstone it is
is there any order to family bonuses? Because it keeps showing me the bonus of my lvl 400 DK while I have one at 460 as well?
oh yeah ive been meaning on asking
how do you guys get different pets to roll other skills
looter
Oh thank you I didnโt realize that itโs just more rng heavy on the last one and needs more tries
DK and SB specifically count Family Guy as account-wide improvements, rather than character specific. But also note that any character you swapped classes on gets bugged family bonuses 
The the first 2w bucket sand is a looter right? Should be fairly easy to unlock if you donโt have it yet
i do so it can roll random skills on it?
No offense, but... https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Breeding
what are you good at? ๐
saaaame
I'm pretty decent at reading the Wiki 
they take like few mins o.o
4 person party dungeon and the Boo quest are both rather annoying
Lava trying to make my single-player game into a multiplayer game
Finding the 4 ppl ig, but you dont need to finish the dungeon afaik
Typically always easier to do even quests sooner than later
Yeah might be better to research a bit on wiki and any other helpful resources you can find at the moment seems you know nothing about pets so itโs better you look into it yourself when you have no knowledge
I do just dont understand some things
Why learn if others know the answer? 
Still a difference to not understanding some thigns vs Not knowing anything and not looking at the wiki at all
I help those who at least demonstrate effort first
The recent IE reviews have been:
"I got to W5 but im stuck, i have no kph, please check my IE!"
Opens IE:
- Maxed Bosses, 0 daily keys, 40-50 books with a 30/1k achievement, Ignored Stamps, Anvil, Alchemy, Worship + No skulls, No traps, basically ignored 99% of the content
Go to pets and look at genetics it will give you a detailed explanation of what that pet does in combat and what it does in spices, this is for all pets you have unlocked at the moment
LMAO
Seriously.. month after month it's been getting worse, especially this past month imo.
Itโs because all they know is to rush to world 5 and they forget every other game mechanic along the way
Typically in psychology it's called weaponized incompetence like "oh but i dont know how to do the dishes, take out the trash, clean the counter" kinda stuff.
i mean i rushed w5 and i was able to kill stuff xD
Ive seen someone with ~ 150-200 kph at last zones of w4 trying to push for w5 and candying (this was a bunch of months back) but still
tho i did sppend alot of time cleanign up w1-4 while afk fighting the begining of w5 untill i could active without issue
I feel like it would be better if Lava hadn't nerfed the W3 and W4 portals so they couldn't rush without being forced to at least look at the content
The "i rushed to w5" is a lame excuse for ignoring all game mechanics
hey you don't need to @ me like that 
my biggest pain point with this server is the bumping and asking dumb questions in tips n tricks without reading
Like few days ago, someone asks about IE, half their stamps are 5-40 material/resource cost. They have 100k-millions in the bank. (No gilded stamps btw)
-> Why dont you level your stamps
"Well I don't know which ones"
-> All of them
"yes but i dont know which ones"
like even now ive got like 5 sets of the end w5 boss gear and everyones over lvl 400 but im still going back to do random things like cooking and construction to clean up xD but i cannot for the life of me get the damn fist weapons to drop from sugmas
im bad about stamps >.> im missing a bunch of them xD
I love helping people, but recently i feel like people dont even want to be helped, but continue to ask the same question daily.
Sorry about my daily Rant xD
all good
it's why i don't post my IE, bc I know the first thing that anyone is going to tell me is to get my gmush kills up
A lot of people have become jaded to it and just shout random shit as memes
Might also be a larger mobile population where more handholding might be expected
they dont want to be helped is something but asking suggests otherwise
Here's 1000 Summons over the next month xD
just wait till poeple are rushing w6 with no clue on how w1-5 works im sure itll get worse
i mean i literally just take the general advice right now since i know that is the most applicable to my account until i start getting to lvl 100+ on all my alchemy bubbles and even then i need a lot more levels in everything even my stamps
There is stilo a bug with Maestro? Od should i as always tests something offline on mobile, and then clear cache?
Could you be more specific? What bug?
my stamps were good... pre-pet dilemma, somebody made a guide that would compare your numbers to others on the leaderboards and tell you what things to upgrade
"How do I get artifacts" incoming
My theory is that with many idle games (like antimatter dimensions and synergism) it's extremely hard to progress without looking at a guide. The noobs see "idle" in Idleon and their brain instantly goes to 'follow guide to the letter' mode, but this game isn't like that, so they ask dumb questions and never try to progress themselves
Incoming? we already get that question
I found that guide really helpful but then IE shut down their leaderboard and the guide was invalidated
its probably going to be the higher rarity bits not the sailing
Like someone who I've seen post their IE here every 2-3 days recently, and since october they are still missing 3x Worship skulls on their alts. You point it out, they dont fix it, they repost their IE again and again.
ive got like 6 eldritches left xD w5 was HUGE for my progress in everything else but im still like hard locked on gaming i cant fucking get chems and i cant get past like i think the highest ive gotten was 30b green bits xD
and being mad at people pointing how bad it is 
Doing a rerun of Measteoo the number od killed mobs by that character is zeroised
At this point it looks like they are proud, and cough cough they delete all the messages
That's a 'feature'
lava code
Just made it to world 5 ๐ so whatโs all this junk about alchemy yall talkin about
when should I use the SB sailing talent?
๐คญ
thats normal
What kurwa?
Dont say that, its a bad word
I know. But kurwa, i though that this bug is fixed already.
naw were not saints, were whats left after the saints left
I have a load of early eldritch ones but I'm still missing 3 basic ones in the later islands. No chems. Desperately trying to get eldritch Fury
i have fury, that was huge xD
"sorry i rushed w6, what is sailing?"
A new mechanic unique to the Voidwalker is their Talent #1: Void Trial Rerun aka Speedrun / Voidrun. When this talent is activated, it goes on a roughly 1 day cooldown, then wipes ALL kills you've ever done and ALL portals you've ever opened on your Vman ๐ When this timer ends, your enemy kills (up to 2m per) and opened maps are copied from your furthest progressed character to your Vman.
literally xD sailing was massive progress for me since i rushed but ffs its gonna be worse than that
sorry, what is anvil?
Sorry, I made 4 vmans 
ooooh. that's why I didn't have to push vman thru w5
pushing vman anywhere feels worse than pushign bb
Pushing Vman is the easiest, because it just copies your best character after a Voidrun lol
"How do I get my ES to have higher damage than my Vman?"
Now that's where I draw the line
โWhat are talent points?โ
why am I gaining levels on dishes that I'm not cooking?
you guys have problems lol
equinox random boss?
Must be lava 
Doesnโt that only make them cheap? Or does it auto upgrade them?
Donโt have it unlocked yet so idk
ohhhh so it's dropping the required amount low enough to be able to lvl I see. I should stop clicking them then haha
Only makes them cheaper. Doesn't auto-level.
Thought so, thanks
this is still going lmao
laziness honestly. no one would join party and i just put it off lmao
damn not using the 10 beast master strat
you guys use strats?
also really love when people use the wrong channels to ask quesitons... someone is in w1/2 talking about chips
lol
jokes on you i use the most recent world for all questions
yes
Yeah.. Going into previous worlds scares me
my home is qw5, before that it was qw4, and when w6 comes out it will be qw6
I figure if I have a question at this stage in the game, it isn't a basic thing and gotta only bug endgame with it
i've always just stuck to the "end" chats as the earlier worlds are for the most part not inclusive to my gamestate
I really wanna do the quests from other worlds but im also scared about missing out on some green stacks
Just dont do the greenstack ones
that's because you didn't rush w5 and know what cooking is 
what im doing is i think im only gonna complete on 1 character and just wait a bit for the others
Complete them all on Vman then for the extra luck tho
I finally decided to do the chaotic cattle on 7 chars and currently doing nightmare
i avoid even looking in Endgame-chat. It's too scary, i am not worthy
i remember i started using this discord more often right when w4 dropped and i had no need to be in the earlier world chats, as I didn't need to be imo
I was/am a rusher, landed in w4 chat pretty quickly
Are any of these easier to 100m than the others?
poopys should be easy just do it on ES while farming the subs quest
sorry, I meant on bb
super chow
ahh
rift,poop and acorn should all be pretty ez
rift might be easiest, depending on how far you are
poop and acorn could be candied
too far I think -_-
rift might be hard depending on if u can multi
thats what candy is for xD
are poop and acorn defecaus/under tree?
rift 47
yeah thats probably too far to be easy
Is increasing crit chance above 300% useful ?
but you should focus on the others for zow
Best place for cranium cooking?
Nothing after 200% currently
true, might as well zow them all and go from there
yyeah if u cant mk them then it might be a bit hard but its still doable compared to others
Thanks
wurms > citringe > flombeige i think
wurms as best or the floms?
wurms are best
game only starts telling you the next one after you hit 10 b or 10 T of that dmg right?
cant wait for ultra super duper crit
the dmg numbers you do
Anyone procrastinating on doing the the 48 double ulti cogs like me?
Or am I dumb and I should get on top of it
Okay good to know
yeah im also working on the cogs just might take a bit
Really depends on your progress. But clicking Cogs while someone active farms isn't too bad
I have 20 out of 48 right now and it feels like Iโve been getting more unlucky the closer I get lmao
I put it off for a day or two before doing it
I dont mind it taking some time collecting cogs since i dont wanna be stressed over a game
also that just kinda messes with you comparing your account to others
Iโm just looking for motivation, Iโm a very competitive person at heart
nothing wrong with that
Its about 20 mins if you move your DKs onto cog production
Iโm doing it right now, might be a little too soon tho, seems like itโs gonna take two hours I get a new cog every 30secs
hahaha you havent staggered them tho ๐
that is really slow, with both squires in cog production?
indeed
Rest in peace double ulti
im not too high up there
Yes sir
im only 170s production
should i do this before getting opal rings with flurbos?
Hmm maybe come back to it
flurbo upgrades...
Iโm committed itโs okay I need to work on my exp cogโs anyway
Could you imagine, thats like 30k gold balls to max 1
ok so at what point do you stop using your bits on garming garden and start sprinkling them for divinity?
I do mine every power of 10 or so
im not willing to spend to lanch balls into the arcade
Unless gaming is going extremely slow
my gaming is not great. pretty much everything is shit haha
progress feels pretty slow all around
Do you have the Chem plant unlocked ?
nope the 1% chances are pretty bad
ooo
Nice
well you could get lucky but its just normal until chemical plant
I fucked up my div progress, so thats going to take me a while to fix
Honestly I upgraded rock and while active pushing world five claiming plants until I got 0.2% chance on mutations then claimed for like 3-4 days before I got Chem
well I didnt know that the 1% could make the main offering 100%
so I failed at the 25% then the 50% then the 25% again
so now im refilling to the 100%
what is the best thing to get in w5 merit?
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
W6 shop just dropped #๐future-content-blog
oh and i totally forgot to start ranking up my refinery. so now i'm all backlogged on salt
oh no please don't get it faster than me in at 22 and getting 2 a day see if you can beat that speed
makes me think hes gonna drop w6 by the weekend
probably around thanksgiving (USA)
long holiday weekend
Waiting for salts was hell
How expensive you think the food is gonna be?
Imagine if W6 came out with no skills just the mobs
Easy greenstacks
Where do I get Hunk of Junk?
im more into knowing about the upgrade stones
Donโt jinx it
my entire construction page are upgrades without salts lol
when is that gringo day of giving thanks?
i think gunland celebrates its 27th nov
23rd
The last couple worlds have only seen food get 5-10x pricier than the previous world, so my guess is like 30-50 gold coins a piece.
If the previous world are an indicator, than 20-30 gold coins each, but there are 50M in stock
oh okay. I barely keep up with local holidays but if it for idleon I'll keep that in mind
well 23rd is normally given off unless you work for dickheads
t y'all
Thats Cope, cant be that soon ๐
hmm well they just added the korean language and its themed like korean stuff
!wiki
Here is the link to the Legends of Idleon wiki. It contains incredibly valuable info that will help you progress faster and more efficiently! https://idleon.wiki/
is there a korean holiday soon?
trivially inexpensive
I just got half double ulti cogs in 6 claims!!!
grasping at straws I see. that's my favourite sport
+3 ๐
If it isn't 1 godshard each, then ezpz 
https://i.imgur.com/LsGOYVu.png

plz no I'll be very sad to lose
pls
whats your gmush?
one god shard im poor
Over 9000
9001
if it is more than like 3 of the plat coins, im out lol
I dont even know why I save my money honestly
Stamps are pricey
if w5 food is trivially inexpensive with w5 money why would that change on w6?
I wish the w5 stamps were straight money, that's my bottle neck for those upgrades
I got to 4000b gmush thinking i can finally buy all stamps, i was v wrong (4300M)**
pls stop it is less funny when the 4 is somewhat relevant

Nawh, it seems a bit try-hard
Is
the new ๐คญ ?
you noticed that now? ๐คญ
I finally got my vman this weekend, now i'm trying to figure out the best way to use him and get some big boy samples
I wish
I am not a clever man, it was 4300M
Yeh.. Just say 4.3b or 4b xD
so what does this VIP library membership % do? is that for better books levels?
Just unlocks other vip books, wiki has the info
you need a certain amount for some vip books but after that it's useless
yup
ah ok I have 3 so far
lava would rather create new systems for the new star talents than use the ones he left behind ๐คญ
The last one is the best one early on in my opinion
just imagine someday he adds new books for the VIP library. the madness
the task unlocks are turning in their grave
Yea the crit chance one?
Yes
technically 7 but 2 are unused at the moment
That & the overhealth one prob the 2 best
She should add two rows of vip books just call โfillerโ
But you can unlock the filler
That would make me happy
man I still need to go bac and fill out my star talents, I havent gotten cardiovascular yet ๐ฆ
i always forgot about the mini bosses in w2 because its fucking annoying to prep the items
Honestly, main importan ones are early on Overaccurate Crit, american tipper and coins for charon
Just have a designated alt for the bags to buyu
OaC isn't even needed anymore
Less maintenance
I burn those tickets on w4 right now to kind of help with cooking hah
filler: gain +(1 * talent lvl) all stats per bm in your account 
I havent done the piggy one where i drop stuff on the floor till i get the correct amount according to our name
Not for us, but still early on i feel like it may/can be way easier and more beneficial than grinding out statues
my whole account is in shambles lol I'd be ashamed to link the IE haha
but i recently found out you can just buy stuff from the shop and drop them one by one
so dont really have to kill mobs
Noo???
Do it after this cleanup
Lol im literally doing that quest right now xD
REALLY?!?!!?
OaC is really a good at early game specially since it makes you able to push harder active but yeah, It falls off the edge of the earth quick
12 char alt (144 = 1 stack of these)
https://i.imgur.com/2R07P4W.png
cool
say that again for us dumb people?
2 alts left, only issue is they are my storage alts xD
Codex -> EZ Acess -> Open shop for items
oh right
Just did this last week and I messed it up more times then I could count I spent 2 hours wasting my time
I'm missing out on so many keys because I dont have ez access for w3 yet
you want to see something?
Yup, got 13 char names = big sad
I had my 10th character named liid for this quest only
from now on just name them 1,2,3
then forgot to do it for a whole year
Gotta do all alts ๐
https://i.imgur.com/gQOLL4K.png
Just slap your keyboard for your names
but I'm sad my 10th isn't as satanic as the rest :/
I'd rather die
ty
there's even spaces in there somewhere haha
if I ever get ram someday maybe
fuck getting ruby card on mr brightside takes so damn long
bruh you were having a episode while making your characters huh
I'm having a stroke just looking at this thanks
dude I haaate doing any naming in games. As soon as I get the 'name is taken' error, SLAP
same honestly
poor. john
do they have that? I dont think ive gotten that at all on all my characters
W6 when?
give it a week or two

Is this better? My quests atm: (This is all alts checked)
Picnic cant be compelted as its a repeatable
Funguy not done on 1 DK for greenstack time thingies if i ever care
Whattso Fk Fishing minigame and the whale..
XxX Cattle waiting for Scoli to have time
Wellington 1 day away
Eliteus Impossible due to vman
Royal Worm hard gated by purple mush miniboss :/
some people are debating between end of november and early january
Honestly I dont remember? I made my account like years ago then forgot about it until this spring. I was afk for like 800 days, only got to level 50 lol
No way November xD
went afk on gmush
if they find my body know that it was trickz that killed me
it has to be this month or early next
from what I've heard that's what Lava said on last stream
He had a recent stream?
the equinox one iirc
Oh, idk first time i hear someone say/claim November
it's November alright
I still havent bothered doing the eufant quest on everyone... just 4 ppl
2024 
I stopped giving a shit about updates as soon as my brother pulled a doot his first free pet a few weeks ago when he started, dude just got to w2 this week hah
oof
time to get rid of your brother and take his account
๐
im gonna go ahead and say on the 11th
you've done that shitty wondergreen money quest on everyone?!?! The patience!! ๐
lmao ur brothers a G
imo more realistic goal is around christmass
they money one you can filter the drops now so its not so bad
Same dude. My little brother got doot for free and he has 0 capacity to appreciate how busted it is or how rare it is
So have I
u can cheese that one tho
What is a weekly Battle Boss?
speedrun to top
Gotta get the kids xmas money for the gemshop unlocks!
fuck that, I got everything except doot and slug hah, being able to open my bank anywhere is more valuable than doot IMO, well at least with my limited god selection
say more!
doot witht he sickness
my little brother does better than me actually because he is contracts level os maniac
It'll be before the Christmas event I imagine
exactly, gotta hit them BEFORE they spend their money on christmass gifts
Someone say Ram? ๐ฆ
https://i.imgur.com/juS9Sen.png
damn
If lava releases trading I'll give you one 
use birthday present gift cards to get the money
ram is arguably one of the most needed ones
Ram is actually GOAT
Doot may be the best objective bonus, but ram is best QoL by far
and those were the two i didnt get for a long time
I couldnt imagine trying to farm mats without the ram
Ram still hiding
Ram is crazy useful tbh
ban him
Ram is the goat for sampling
do birthday present cards have any other use aside from that?
Only need one set of skilling gear
greenstack
I mean honestly, Doot is so OP that I'm fine with not having him. Seems like it would kind of kill the experience of leveling up
Or.. use magma and have boith kattle+Magma on all alts?
that might just take longer than the gem one
honestly agreed... the last time I really needed that feature I was W2
im only missing doot but he doesnt exactly change anything for me except free lab up
Magma boots arenโt better and neither is helmet vs idle skilling
So have to swap two pieces around
I'm sure when Im done experiencing w5, doot would be great
Doot changes the way your account functions pretty significantly
Still gotta setup buff food on alts, so not hard to move IS trophy, Angel wings as you have to move location anyways?
dont tell him he's gonna need around 150k nullo for that tho
for bubo probably just the hat and boots are upgrade from magma
Well thatโs what Iโm saying is you gotta move stuff which makes ram nice
I got all my alts setup like this:
https://i.imgur.com/2D1zUwJ.png
Thing is.. you have to change map anyways??
Too much inv space 
So there's not much difference
lol lab gear
Donโt have to stop at town
Itโs not like Iโm saying you need it lol
If you have Doot what would be the optimal class spread. most guides say 2 ES for the divinity bonus but was curious if that has changed. I have (1 x BB, 1 x Bubo, 2 DK, 2 SB, 1 Void, 1 ES, 1 BM) just wondering what my 10th should be
Im just saying it is a nice convenience for lazy people
There's still not much use in having a second bubo at the moment
2 es is still better
but you have to?!
you have to change talent preset...
So there's literally near 0 difference
only difference is if you forgot something, which is a you-problem at that point xD
Hey stop calling me out
pff, just max all talents
Leave me and my ram alone 
getting there ๐ฆ
Finally managed to make it to wave 130 in W5, 120 was pretty brutal in comparison.
the trick I found usefull to get to that point earlier, is never booking anything
If you mange to go from 110 to 120 you should always manage to get 130
but then you end up fighting nightmare kattle with BM that has lvl 100 traps
I'm almost there on my DK for construction, i often forget to change back to skills for the refinery talent
I was having a difficult time, my towers are considerably lower than the guides posted, I was just trying to hit 121 everywhere for equinox.
almost able to scratch that equinox goal off my list, then i promised myself to go do fun stuff
once u can atom the talent bubble it becomes quite easy
what are your towers btw? Mine are decent but I need to know how much effort I have to put in ๐
I have yet to use the atomizer at all
I have zero clue what to use it for
I did just unlock vman so maybe farming material wont be so painful to my soul
You don't farm material for atoms you print it
Set it to 1050m, turn it off, then dont worry about it
Poisonic 52, Kraken 51, Party and Lightning 59, Frozone 61
hmm, bit below mine. Definitely should be possible then
just need to stop being a lazy shit ๐
might be this weekends shenanigans
but I have zero idea what it even does, like it's been so far out of sight that I have to go read up on it before I fuck something up and nuke my inventory or something hah
10m mats turn into 1 atom.
Atoms used for good unlocks. See wiki
as long as you set the collider to 1050m you can't fuck it up ๐
Just prepare yourself mentally for some heartbreak.
TD takes a long time and sometimes you'll lose a run because the game freezes or literally just makes enemies walk past your towers, completely out of your hands.
oh yeah I'm prepared to be annoyed
world 5 is the bane of my existence anyway
I finihed td4 vial this week tho so really need to run td5
I had W4 TD lose on 170 last night after like 4 hours because the mobs suddenly started ignoring my kraken towers 
I just did like w4 td where I was on wave 50, I couldnt do enough dmg to kill the boss but he was getting pushed back so he couldnt leave
just a fuck you stalemate for an hour
But my kids loved it so I guess it was a win
Thats because you timed out then,
TD has literally always been like that. Kill the rush, pin the boss, then wait an hour until he dies
No, no, it was a splitting thing. I was literally only 20 minutes into the wave and had most of the mobs down.
The mobs split on their own volition and wound up with all my krakens stuck in a corner on 2 mobs while the remaining 40 walked past.
I meant 4 hours in terms of the entire run up until that point
My only issue now are the random screen freezes for td w4-5
Getting far is easy, but annoying af when you're at 140-160s on a boss with 5-20% hp and the game just freezes
Yeah, I had acorn and frosty both freeze on me the day before.
TD is brutal in its jankiness.
Im at like 4/5 or 5/6 runs that ended up freezing to cause my lose instead of an actual lose
Still wondering if its caused by the disable hp stuff or not
This was my fate yesterday:
You can see the majority of my kraken eyes bunched up at the right-side 
he seemed to regen his health back to a level, then he'd take dmg then regen it back
was he green?
green ones do that, need a void
I find that turning off the HP is helpful for me, personally.
I forgot green mobs were a thing we had to deal with tbh
I dont remember honestly, I mostly play this game with my kids because they like the 'fart guy'
this tower is a saviour for tower defence - removes the mobs special effects (such as healing
)
Reasonable.
I think in some way, we all play this game for the fart guy.
I just unlocked that like yesterday
For the regular lag sure, but im wondering whats causing the actual full freeze, not lag.
Fair, fair. It's tough to know for sure.
Anecdotally I froze on acorn TD much earlier when I accidentally left numbers on than when I had them off, but it's really difficult to actually investigate.
what is the liquidvestment trick? i remember someone saying something along the lines of if you have your alchemy tab open you gain more liquid on the cauldrons, is that correct?
before lava fixed it game used to full freeze from bubo skull - the entity wasn't despawning properly
Time of play doesn't seem to be a factor in the crashes here - we'd have been crashing before the equinox update. I reckon the number of mobs being killed is a factor. If they aren't despawning quite right, that'd cause the same sorta crash
5th fail on 76% snail in a row ...
Could the undead mobs be related?
anyone have a setup for frosty td ?
Type this string into the search box for the discord and give praise to Pancake
from: pancakex. guide in: endgame-talk
all hail pancake, king of the construction
also kinda cute




what fucking atoms should I focus on?
should I max stamp first?
helium is pretty good too but the cost is steep so I can't upgrade it often
probably boron if you want some alchemy stuff
i can't expend all of the upgrades I already have because of my bad prints 
working on fixing them but I probably should focus on boron anyway
ty
yall wtf is goat lab grind
where you unlock the goat from world 5 and it works by you putting all your guys in lab and you also get the benifits of divinity
oooo fuck
goat lab grind is what the young people do under the bridge after sunset
like every char?
yeah most of them except maybe 1-2
I say do all of em... take a week off and get those lvls boosted
that way you don't have to do it again
yeah for sure just get lab 100 and divinity 80+
alternatively: you can do neither and be fucked like some jackasses (me)
or that
lol
I literally had them in there for a week
went outside, found a girl, got married, had two kids
https://sataneide.idleonefficiency.com/
behold the future that awaits you if you don't
damn you touched grass my only weakness
be warned. it is not for the faint of heart
and the grass touched back my friends.... it touched back
from the looks of your IE, you touched alot of grass as well hachin
Is there any benefit of linking to divine if you have doot? 
have to for tiger.
World 5 Doot companion owners:
https://imgur.com/kXkZfj9
Thanks
I don't I'm just bad 
for instance I just left my vman leveling woodcutting for a whole day with mining gear 
another feat: my top trapper is, somehow, my es
HOW
HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?
my vman is running full exp traps
??????
Is there any way to know when your account will get door
i dont know just work on it lol
Or are the pet rolls actually chance
isn't there a guaranteed doot after like a gazillion tries?
When you get Tier 5 treat you will see a counter I think
200 i think
When you get to door candy you have to do 200 rolls right
I failed 120 frosty because rooted mobs just started moving for no reason ignoring both root and krakens ...
sometimes that happens and at the same time the ice stops working too and everything goes to shit 
or at least it happened to me too on a few tries
I am so god damn sad... imma do w5 instead
This may be nothing for you dirty hourly clickers, but this was a MASSIVE pain for me and it's finally over!
at least got my max from 70 to 110
Just to confirm - this upgrade does nothing if you have all ancient artifacts yeah? not going to gtive me eldrich haha. (ive been on eldrich Fury Relic for like 2 months now...)
What's a decent benchmark for grinding the keys needed for the last nebula quest? My ES is at 1800B damage in DR setup with 20 DR and I'm scoring roughly around 100 keys per active hour. Doesn't seem like a good use of my time yet when I also could be grinding beans or liquid for GT.
But that has nothing to do with hourly clicking o.o
i dont think u can even buy it
I thought it did
okay ๐ฆ maybe another 2 months ill get lucky
I don't get what the "hourly clicking" is all about o.O
is it just for the printer gains?
print 1bn rss and you can click "hourly" on linear scaling bubbles for long-term small gains
I think it's how you see some ppl with 10,000's of stat points
eh not really, just shows lack of spending candy on SB
or just anyone tbh
you're def right. I don't know how much candy is a reasonable amount. I have like 100-300 of 1hr or 2hr candy so Idk if that's a lot or too little compared to endgamers
plus, i think my multikill is lackluster so i'm not getting many kills in one one-hr candy
don't compare yourself to the endgamers... rumor says they only speak binary
or idk, maybe there's a way to boost mob respawn that's way more efficient than multikill and I just don't know what I don't know
Even late game itโs easy to get candy
share secrets plz :((
End game has like 3000 1H candies lol
just go to the candy shop wdym
I'll take YOu to the candy shop. ๐
hwhat?
If you have choco chip you can easily get a ton of candy a day
Ew not like that
OH IS THAT THE STRAT?
Easy 200 hours a day in candy
bags are worth several hours of candy each
oh nice
Just takes time to run all the Colo
it's colo 2 that's best technically right? but it's hard to afk because of annoying skilling time gates?
Best candy per ticket ratio from w2
2 runs per orb instead of 3
Also takes more real life time
huh? how? ๐ฎ
what's fastest IRL time?
They are used to craft biggie spawn item... the eyes xD
so W3 is the happy medium?
W4 costs way too many tickets to farm for candy
Colosseum Purpose:
- Colo 1 = Gems per ticket (But not much more than colo 2, at the loss of candy)
- Colo 2 = Candy, Golden Kebab (+% Total dmg)
- Colo 3 = Slush Obols+Skulls, Golden Bread (+% Coin drop)
- Colo 4 = Eggs, Laddles
- Colo 5 = To be released
Note:
- Gold bread seems to only give ~1% of the displayed value, not really worth it - TheContract
Useful for eggs mid game when still working on breeding
Questions -W5 never fail me. Thank you all
yeah the candy shop
you know about it too?!
my breeding is done done so i'm doing everything backwards it seems
W4 Colo doesnโt give enough ladles to make it worth
For me personally
So I just run w2
but gives keys for quest too ๐
Yeah it's not a good idea to do w4 just for ladles
and eggs to boost breeding to 40+ asap
I did it once I wonโt do it again unless lava makes the achievement for 2 trophies
Quick question I actively play most of the time and check gaming often. Should I turn kitsune on or leave off
Got chem?
Yes
off unless you're going for hardcore chem chainsi think
Think of the quest efficiency 
Ehh I have it on for nug farming
Many a times stuck on chem.loop
I'm level 49 of breeding for like 11 months
Youโre right that .01 gonna be so worth 6000 troll keys 
It's been off now for months, but had me thinking am I loosing it when level of it goes up?
maybe I should run w4 Colo 
I'm at like 183%
I'm looking forward to running W4 colo again tbh
Do you roughly remember what your damage and DR was when you did the key grind? I'm giving it a try right now and get roughly 100 keys per active hour on ES and it seems too low to be worth the time.
Still need another 200 or so W2 colos first though 
Donโt active what you donโt have to
I used Colo tickets and got them from w4 Colo
Wonโt catch me on active ES

W4 colo is absolutely the way to farm keys
Or just afk. I've left my BM on seekers before
10/10
best class for running colo?
Hmm I'm gonna give it a try tomorrow. I borked my post office shields and have to wait another day for more tickets
you got keys for the 100 NM troll kills from colo??
Only DK
ouch
money gains have picked up enough that no longer am i gated by cash costs, but mats capacity again. guess before i go back to ๐ ฑ๏ธeans i may live at pots fora while again
I have 112k efaunt keys from colo 2 lol
Keys youโll never spend 
You recommend the w5 boss helmet with the rest of equipment magma, or what is the best actual?
Not single one 
if you ask "best class for..." 80% of the time the answer is dk
if you do 112k runs on normal efaunt you can get like 50k gems tho 
best class for CC? 
Just finished my 48 double ulti cog dream after about 2 hours of clicking ๐
Dk no doubt
will only take 1000 hours of killing efaunt
gotcha. cheers bud
Its be faster to just fsrm more colo tickets and run more colo
in terms of equipment, what you think i should change?
I almost never farm bosses for gems. Why farm gems when I can farm gems and candy at the same time
alchemy
fair
alchemy is a work in progress right now, XD im working on it
whatโs the meme about regarding beans?
Beans isn't a meme its the best farm in the game
forโฆ alchemy?
it is just the best place to farm with DK for useful stuff
Beans is a lifestyle
Mostly for samples really
But samples is how you push alch so I guess kinda for alchemy
If you mean the people with bean in their name itโs a #midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ thing
Tryin to get more people to join the bean cult 
Beantastic
I want LavaBean (245 bench)
Question, around what dmg on ES or avg portal kill is it worth farming up some hamsters for the larger material bag on all alts
you can hava MamaBean
You can be mama bean
Im PapaBean
โDaln (Mama Bean)โ
lol
welcome mamaBean
you dont even know how much i love beans
Bean cult 
i spent over 2 year straight farming beans
i had 5 million bean kills before killing amarok
Feelsgoodman
I personally just let him afk there. Can't waste my precious active time farming Hampters
wait, beans = bigger samples? is it chopping statues everyone is after?
When you can kill beans

Bean statue's
beans are nutritional
Hell yeah Beans!

The cult of bean grows 

you guys making me wanto drop bubo and head to beans..
You should
One of us one of us
bubo at beans
is this done yet?
Too meta
Salt 16 bean party 
be the mama bean the world needs
Iโm at salt 3 ๐ฆ
Think you need a bit more
worst part of it is that all of em is farmed by bubo in w5
I need to farm on SB for more DR 
Beans on SB 
20.88x @prisma drift in my Crystal page 
Beans for everyone
๐ฎ
Need to break to 21x 
my DR is low ๐ฆ
i need to afk overnight on sb too, yeah
why can i never get the trophy doubler
21x is a money breakpoint 
@rich epoch Too intimidating
no one at salt 16 
oh, thanks
Saving my golden stopwatches for w6 
then all is right
I'll be back in a sec. I messed up my spec when I swapped gods around
Hoping they affect w6 I see 
Just realized my bean gains were suffering
I'll be active chopping whit it there for your entertainment
Yooo we got a new bean member 
You wanted a Mama Bean? :)
Bean
Contract can be Hardstuck Beans
Artifact question, is worth to set all ships to the +25 max talent level artifact to try to get it in ancient?
gotta go back to demon 9 or I'll combust
I did but Iโm also lazy
If they have decent speed yes
rip
W6 Angry Bean soon
half of those are so easy you have to try not get it
you can do it 
not really
my boulder is 28 and party 6 is that enough? 
28 boulder can prob beat most but not w5 pretty sure
yeah i'm on it
Do you know of the Construction Meta?
2 DKs on Board, Cogs only XP Matters?
oh yeah w5 might be extra hard just because of hp
yeah i heard that yesterday
few days too late unfortunately tho
Better late than never 
started like 1,5 weeks ago switching to build rate cogs because i thought exp would be irrelevant after a time
yeah that's true
better now than when you're deep into W5 and playing for more than a year like some jackasses (me)
should i remove the other ones except DK from board?
If you get enough XP Cogs yes
For now they are probably okay to stay there
the endgame board has only DKs on board. Personally, cogtimizer never said for me to take out my BB/vman, so they're still there
cogtimizer is outdated
Alright I finally reset my PO box to try this no mana box nonsense on DK. Back to salt 16 bean party 
I guess those Directionals are pointing to one of your DKs?
(cogtimizer will never tell you to add or remove a toon or fill empty spaces)
Only had to redo 85k myriad
cogtimizer is not outdated... it's just ahead of all of you
Atleast you could spent 400 more on Myriad 

Oh no wonder you're hardstuck midgame. Don't even have 100k myriad
Once you get that you'll be lategame at least
One of my many faults
Iโll get 100k myriad one day too 
it told me to fill empty spaces and it said for me to take out the other chars once, idk if it changed between when i used it and when you used it
I'll have it for my next sample
I dont know when I'll do it but I will force myself to sit down and get it done

oh, really? I made a test so maybe the one I use is extra outdated 
its just too much of a task
My man runs 1000 colo 2runs with 1 minute equinox claims in between and cant even click a few po boxes lol
maybe its only when you unlock cog spots that it tells you? idk
when pens can be turned dirrectly into boxes il do it
noob moment
hell id give 2 pens for 1 box even
I am kinda tempted rn to log into IdleOn on my Phone and do some PO Boxes. All second presets/card sets are getting reset then? Even on chars I am not logging into?
they're only reset locally
Just don't log into anyone else or switch presets and you're fine
in my experience nothing will change if you dont swap preset or anything
alrighttt
just do as little as possible talentwise etc
they are aren't actually stored besides locally, that is the thing. so only the preset you logged out on gets saved
it easier on phone? ๐ฎ
dont switch talent preset, thats when you fuck it up
I need to atleast log into 2 chars. One needs to take all my Bars
Finger click ez, mouse click hard
just finger it
Checking that out immediately! 
oh shit, and here I was looking to buy a touch monitor for the job
Super easy to use. Its an app that connects to your steam account and you can stream your pc to mobile with it
34" curved touch monitor
Steam link also helps me keep up with my hourly clicks when I'm not home 
I dont even have enough 
Iโm 0/0/0/0/0/0/0
if u dont mind me asking how much data does it use?
My candy goals are way too ambitious for my colo farming

@signal osprey whats ur gmush kph?
I have 1.5k. 1h candies
I will use them
I'm saving for the last boss, see

no. last boss 
I need to Candy some more gmush 
just like the potions I never used on that rpg
ive decided to donate my candy to charity this year
Honestly never really checked but I'd imagine its a fair bit since its streaming. That being said for hourly clicks only thats maybe 30 seconds of use so it might not be too terrible
#endgame-gen-chat message he answered it in Endgame some minutes ago
So daily buy bags for biggie + spam p.o. box 6 for colo tickets + run w2 (w3 colo if impatient) for candies is the candy strat right?
OMG i feel like a absolute stupid, i have doubts how, how many people got the full map of cogs... and i have that i was using Cogs with Speed to flags, directed to the characters...
I feel like a absolute idiot
hmm ok i avoided using it since im scared of the data usage tbh
23m not that far off
welcome to the club
better later than never
yes, im ending the last flag XD
just 6 mill above 
XDDD
@signal osprey dude, you just made my day... never heard of steam link before
I mostly use it just to make PO easier and thats still at home on my wifi
PO box is soooooo much easier now
Its a very nice tool 
it shouldn't use too much data if you just use it to check a few mins here and there
oh ok yeah that sounds way easier especially for po6
i have max 20gb so idke if thats enough tbh
that's more than enough
oh aight ill download it and test it out
Yeah unless you plan on sitting there clicking chems for hours while you're not home 20gb should be good
probably 100mb would be enough for a month
lol seems like i was worried for nothing then
I have YouTube on my phone during work 5 days a week and some months I barely hit 30gb
Cus u do it too huh 
imagine not having a way to hourly click while you're away
Kinda half reading, didn't know about that lol
welcome to the fingering club
ok so I have like 3 captains with speed/cloud, is rushing cloud discovery a decent idea? at least for the first half?
I think it is better to yeet them into the sun
how the heck do I go away from keyboard mode tho? :p
a more informed person can confirm
top left, click keyoard to disable and click the mouse pointer to enable
or keypad rather
so maybe dif thing
really not worth the effort
just go for loot and speed
say: keyboard go to sleep please
to whom?
to me
@sick sentinel keyboard go to sleep please

I sometimes wonder why I listen to myself, let alone why others do it
he finished 200 w2 collos in a day
Rough day
I'm about to about to unlock cloud 7, then I was going to drop 2 captains to go start farming upgrades
I feel targeted by that message

pov contract when he finishes the last superbit
must be the anime avatar. it empower us
just put everyone on that island and spam elephant god, you'll unlock it in a day more or less
Harvest all
You know u want to
Monkey would press that button
The intrusive thoughts are loud today 
To whomever said sailing was hard.. idk man looks easy, just git gud:
https://i.imgur.com/YbXqRGC.png
Photoshop
Haters will say its fake
That isn't photoshop xD
it is
not 69.69M treasure, amateur
fakers will say it's hate
๐ก
just like contracts chat gpt 10000, soul stacks video
i'm not worthy of the elephant god yet lol
now buy 20 miracle chests for an even bigger flex
that little shit...
Reading that back it had a bit more sass than I intended

I'm so sad I'll never recover
I'll just go cry with my equinox vials
๐คญ
ngl I legit tought onyxing these would take like 4x less time than it is taking ...
I'm being attacked 
Just tell them to drop faster
just say keyboard go to sleep
wait, which ones are u missing
and those are not the worst ones
All of them
Well not missing as in I haven't unlocked them missing as in I haven't maxed them
those are really easy compared to the w2 ones. I have up on those
I haven't sampled the equinox resources
idk... it's worse than this one for sure ...
oh 69.6 % nice
banned for lewd
i feel like w2 took me 2 days. and I just candied the fishing one thanks to the halloween event
what should I cook with this?
:c
turkey
meth turkey
those are easy
1 meal in each kitchen
jk people said to cook 10 different meals for the efficiency since you'd get more levels with that
okk, ty
And pick whatever u want 
dont you need to use all 100k all at once for equinox?
you need, don't you?
yes but you out a different meal at each Kitchen
so you get lots of levels for lots of meals
How tf do you get 2k kill Roy kills??
because every level gets harder and harder, cooking a single one would fetch you less levels overall
ooooh... forgot that was... possible
bubo with respawn upgrade
upgrades. both time and some respawns
I'd say they'd need to be VERY high level?
so used to just clicking "cook all"
really just needs a good map
The real secret strat that endgamers don't want you to know about is to sell your ladles to the W1 shop before you use the 100k 
yeah me too. I've learned that today and I was really glad I haven't collected the 100k otherwise I'd just use it on a single meal
Ahh yeah that too I suppose
So I just unlocked the cat for gaming, when and how do you typically use this? Like do you pick all your plants for a clean board, turn on the cat, add water for full plants? Then you just take the 3x bit hit?
but my big numbers 
moar plant moar big numbers
๐
plus moar DNA for unlock
if you take really really long to check it may be better to turn it off but otherwise just leave it on
tho if you just unlocked it, your cycles probably take quite a bit
well I'm pretty lazy so I guess I'll just turn it on and pretend it never happened
speaking of cycles, what's the lowest we've seen so far ?
2 more hours til vial mastery

does it really worth it at high level?
0.6m cycle
very, since T6 and T7 have stupidly low chance
how much mush and mutant bosses were supposed to get at 7 days?
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