lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[loud cedar]

School is annoying tho lol

[chrome tiger]

still no stamps

[fluid tinsel]

If my BM has royal traps, everyone can use royal traps despite not having them themselves via drone right? only difference is they can't place as many traps as the BM who has the actual royal trap, am I correct on that?

[ember oyster]

Bruh my elite does less smg than my subcalsses

[pure ember]

Better than getting 3 of the same stamp

[shy flame]

gz 97 more to go for next vial

[sick sentinel]

Yeah the efficiency and exp come from the bm with the royal trap if they are placing the traps, but each chars trap amount is restricted to the one they have equipped

[fluid tinsel]

Thank you

[loud cedar]

Got another one LOL,
I got the vial @chrome tiger

@lament jasper need one lol

Had another lucky red dice run of 17 balls manifesting itself into 337

[opaque sun]

the number of trap slots are determined by the trap each guy is using

So still best to make royal for everyone to keep sanity from QoL

[crude drum]

Is there any time using a construction obol set makes sense over a DR set, since construction only works while active?

[rough wasp]

You can snapshot construction obols

[clear quartz]

oh?

[opaque sun]

Do note the active character takes a huge construction exp penalty, so you would want to keep the main construction guy in afk

[vagrant mountain]

personal construction obol set vs no obols

[sinful aurora]

Why is that btw? I always noticed it but what's the reason he gets less con exp?

[opaque sun]

its just that way

[rough wasp]

spaghetti code

[opaque sun]

its been a bug since release of construction and been reported many times but still havent been addressed

[clear quartz]

i did wonder why second dk was cruisin ahead of main dk even though he doesnt have nearly the book or other lvls as my main dk

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i only ever play on one DK

the other one gets fed cons EXP

[clear quartz]

so worth stuffing the first one full of cons and swap from taht one to the second to snapshot the construction? or am i thinking of it wrong still

[rough wasp]

He's catching up to my main DK

[vagrant mountain]

you just want to snapshot from a warrior

I juse keep my other DK on construction obols

and switch to him to snapshot

[rough wasp]

I should do that

[clear quartz]

hmmm gotcha

[crude drum]

Stupid question, but how do you snapshot it? And do you snapshot it onto that one you want to keep the max xp while ignoring the other DK?

I only really know of mining hp snapshotting

[clear quartz]

my gap isnt as severe i guess

[vagrant mountain]

you go on the character that has the obols and then you open your cog page then switch to your other char

[clear quartz]

ahhhh

[vagrant mountain]

you will keep the snapshot as long as you dont reopen cog page or move maps

[crude drum]

And the obols are applied to the 2nd one (that you swap to)?

[vagrant mountain]

yes

[clear quartz]

well i guess ill get a construction set again then

[crude drum]

Ahhh I see, ty

[vagrant mountain]

most people have family construction obols too

but i was too lazy

[rough wasp]

I made my set

[clear quartz]

sounds like a ton of work swapping that way, i suppose if i plan on not moving for an extended time its worth

probably just kit out second dk in it and go from there

[sinful aurora]

When youre going to bed or to work, yes

[vagrant mountain]

it is a lot of extra work but not really that much and it ends up being close to 2x speed increase

if you think about it from a time perspective, you are building the same amount in 24 hrs without obols as you are building for 12 hrs with the obols

also the obols are build spd which increases your exp too

[clear quartz]

thatll be a fun QOL update, if we get obol loadouts

[rough wasp]

ngl snail. Sometimes I look at my obols and think man, I don’t wanna move my obols

[vagrant mountain]

thats the only reason i havent farmed out my kruk keys

and the reason why im thinking about farming more pop obols

just get like 8 sets and call it a day

[clear quartz]

im still trying to get all the skilling ones set that i can just swap around but imagine space is gonna get tricky at some point if i have family tab also accounted for

[vagrant mountain]

i found that the skilling ones dont do jack shit

[clear quartz]

and i hates swapping gods and obols out, makes sampling that much more of a chore lol

oh?

[opaque sun]

mining chopping does some shit

Trapping and worship doesnt do much as the skill scales bad with efficiency

[vagrant mountain]

i tested with just personal obols and I got 863m oak vs 860m oak

[clear quartz]

oh yeah i havent tested out fishing or catching, and just kinda keep beefmaster on trapping since he sucks at everything anyway

second ES holds the worship setup but seems negligible

like hed be probably about as well off if not better with just the regular wis obols i wager

[vagrant mountain]

as long as you got slush obols and kruk obols for your sample, youre fine

[shy flame]

I'm trying to rush to unlocking converters for spice gains, are the tips for how to do this a bit more quickly or am I a fool to even try

[vagrant mountain]

use DNA and breeding

[shy flame]

that's what I've been doing, I unlocked penguin and snowball today but still like 5 more pets to go

[dapper prism]

Just remember that things in this game often work hand in hand.
Like the 4 meals that affect pet breeding odds (fries, pizza, donut, choco truffle) which is also easier to lvl with proper Vman talent and lab jewel etc.

Also the level unlocks, like lvl 50 and 60 are pretty insane to pet odds.

[shy flame]

oh yeah I know, I understand things take time and like, there's a lot of interconnected things within the game, just wanting to make sure I'm doing my best to set up today for where I want to be a few months from now

[opaque sun]

In general, its better to upgrade little bit of everything, than focusing on one single thing

[dapper prism]

You can also easily setup flashy (bunny) first

[shy flame]

The reason I want converter is for the emerald ulth... whatever, which will be in rotation in a month and in 2 months. Kinda gotta get them higher tier spices producing more if I'm gonna make it

[dapper prism]

Fun thing, i just started using converters this week, compeltely forgot about it and im done with all pet unlocks xD

The 5k starfield spice from emerald ulth will be very hard

It's also followed by the 10k same spice one the week after xD

[shy flame]

Yeah, seems like one of the jewels you mentioned earlier that feels almost impossible to get without a lot of planning or with crystal luck

[shy flame]

I already have that one thank the crystals

Emerald ulthingy is the only jewel in the next 4 months that will be a genuine challenge to unlock

[opaque sun]

visiting bosses for the gems usually cheaper for most jewels

[honest gate]

so is there anything to allow getting 'a true prirate' achievement faster? Or is the seige breaker just... really bad at getting that in any reasonable amount of time, compared to the divine knight and elemental wizard?

[opaque sun]

Been on my sb like 2 mo(?), and its at 650k

So its just plain slow

[honest gate]

jesus

[shy flame]

Well yeah, but as I mentioned earlier I really wanna get choc chip early if I can to start actively working on onyx statues. Best way to get that, for me, is to try to work up to unlocking emerald ulthingy from rotation, unlock two other easy jewels in the same time span, and then get the remaining four I'm missing from gems because they didn't seem to even show up in rotation for the next 4 months

[dapper prism]

Mhm, for that duration, you doing citringe or just beans for a 2 in 1?

[shy flame]

Being able to unlock emerald ulth from rotation means I can chip gamble for two months, then I can just buy the last four jewels before any single one of them shows up in rotation

[opaque sun]

The first 400k was done on various w5 mobs to ruby cards

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-maket-it-rain-money-rain-cash-counting-gif-5490558

[shy flame]

I'm f2p dw

[opaque sun]

And by around 500k plunder, all of w5 cards are now ruby so he is at oj now

[shy flame]

or worry more, whatever is appropriate

[vagrant mountain]

[honest gate]

only one more to go

[zinc torrent]

That's beautiful

[honest gate]

in the words of some well-known guy on the internet eat that horse

or was it bite the bullet?

either one

[merry pulsar]

wheres the best place to farm w3 statues?

[dapper prism]

Check pins

[vagrant mountain]

i cant get +1 because larry gives me +2 or +3

4000 is unachievable

[dapper prism]

I'm happy GT stopped in time 😄
https://i.imgur.com/vsmfOp0.png

[shy flame]

my roid ragin is like 160 and my grind time is like 83

[dapper prism]

Then you must never active Bubo..

[shy flame]

I barely active anything :x

I've been doing better lately, in the next half hour I think I'll hit 50k DK orb kills :x

[vagrant mountain]

active play probably progresses your account faster than anything

[dapper prism]

not just probably

[fast grail]

its been months since i last leveled GT

[shy flame]

idle play progresses me staying true to the heart of IdleOn faster than anything

[dapper prism]

Mine was also 5k, been focusing liquid rate a ton. then just did like a day of GT and bang, 7k xD

[dapper prism]

It's called IdleON(line) not IdleOFF(line)

[vagrant mountain]

if only i could AFK for 1 hr and get 20 hrs progress like idle skilling

[dapper prism]

Idle means you have something turned on, and it's on idle. not turned off fully.

[shy flame]

My characters are always IdleOn(line), they progress even if I have the game off

[dapper prism]

XP rates can be an easy 200x faster.
Alchemy water.. can't even compete because it would be 1000's times better, if not even 10k or 100k times better xD

[fast grail]

We really need like a 100x to liquid speed, swapping to bubo multiple times per day is

[dapper prism]

If u dont do GT, having the liquid amount is pretty easy though?

Also if you don't do store stuff ig*

[shy flame]

In all seriousness I do spend more time actively playing than I did pre W5, I try a bit harder, I feel like I'm in a weird spot between certified tryhards who are like "how do you have less than 700m oak log sample" and people who are like "just got to world 5 on my wizard, what next?"

[fast grail]

Not when every hour its like 3-4k liquid of clicks

[dapper prism]

What a pleb, sub 700m oak sample

/jk

[dapper prism]

dafq are you spending so much liquid on o.o

[shy flame]

Printer gives gains even when you're offline, it shares the true heart and spirit of idleon

[dapper prism]

Then again, i don't do hourly clicks really ever

[fast grail]

Just bubbles, for liquid one it’s, all 3 stat bubbles, orange bubble 3, orange tool power bubble, FMJ, name I guess, cooking roadkill, (and soon Larry)

And hammer hammer (also qs like 2-3 times a day)

Once catching samples are high enough for an easy fmj, will start stamp tramp as well

If they get even higher, then maybe even le brain tools as well, but that would require like x2 my current samples at minimum

might eventually stop stronk tools and start pushing shaquracy

98% effectiveness of that is only like 3.4k, so for sure something i might end up doing

[vagrant mountain]

sounds exciting

[dapper prism]

sounds rough

[sharp vine]

I only just started to active Bubo again the other day for some money farm since I quadrupled my gmush kills, my GT is only like 1500 I think

[vagrant mountain]

endgame is just bubble clicker

[sharp vine]

Should have Larry done in the next two days though

[fast grail]

It's One of the only things we can do for constant progress

Beans being the only other thing similar

[vagrant mountain]

yeah im hoping metagame will shift soon with w6

i swear if i finish w6 and i have to go back to beans, ima quit

[agile pagoda]

I just got the last red ball pit in the arcade!

[opaque sun]

hope it gets you a jackpot

[agile pagoda]

bruh, 3rd 6 roll

Ugh almost a jackpot!

[dapper prism]

Last week I hit 3k balls. Got a bit busy with other stuff and forgot about them, now it's 3.3k, tempted to wait for 5k now. But i also desperately need to get that forge cap up

[agile pagoda]

I really need the stamp...

[opaque sun]

Stamps harder to get than getting jackpot

[agile pagoda]

then gimme the jackpot

[errant star]

Update coming out this week so gold shop gonna change

[dapper prism]

yeh, pretty sure that'll happen too

[agile pagoda]

Oooh I just got the coldseeker bullet print

[dapper prism]

Gz, amazing anvil xp

And ty, reminded me to buy whetstone

[agile pagoda]

oh...... they do look easy to craft...

Uh.... what the heck is this??? It gives so much exp!

[snow light]

can someone with an S and a P name meet me in world 2 pizza 10 for the "1 star, game sucks!"

[dapper prism]

Use whetstone, max XP, level to 100+ then use whetstone to move back to speed.

[agile pagoda]

OH I FORGOT ABOUT THIS

[uneven violet]

Dysfunctional chat

[agile pagoda]

bruh

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/o0RrMrY.png

Lies, I dont see a release date on the Discord

[vagrant mountain]

is there a channel where you can see people who joined the server? xD

[dapper prism]

click their name

[barren otter]

was pet arena 200 dmg thing additive?

[shy flame]

the main bonus from pet arena 200 is no longer having to do pet arena

[opaque sun]

additive to an existing damage pool multiplier yes

[barren otter]

[dapper prism]

Everyone got bloodbones unlocked on all alts?

[granite grove]

yeah, just drop a candy or two for those portals, unless if you are referring to separate acc as "alts"

[vagrant mountain]

[agile pagoda]

Why this question?

[sick sentinel]

New stuff location past bloodbones

[agile pagoda]

O-Oh

[barren otter]

it's 1 candy you got this

oh technically 2

[agile pagoda]

well... time to use some of my....505 candies

[vagrant mountain]

realistically like 5 mins

[barren otter]

yea 5 mins to do all 9 alts

[dapper prism]

BB looking at you like 👀 "you sure about that"

[barren otter]

[vagrant mountain]

my bb is all grown up now 🥹

[dapper prism]

My BB needs to go back to crystal island sometime soon :/
https://i.imgur.com/i6Gb27K.png

How many days do crystal mobs stack? 7 or 14?

[agile pagoda]

wait... how did you unlock tremor worms?

[shy flame]

both of my BBs are getting ladles

[vagrant mountain]

by killing 10m crawlers

[pine pond]

llets goooooooooooo

[agile pagoda]

crawlers..?

so... there's something past the moles...?

[vagrant mountain]

the map before

[wind umbra]

u dont need to unlock bloodbones to get to w3 boss

[shy flame]

you get to crawlers by killing 6m big ole moles

[dapper prism]

New map is behind bloodbones

[shy flame]

get quest from sleepy mole before you start on big ole moles and crawlers, he asks you to kill the same amount you need for portal anyway

might as well get free stuff for portal

[agile pagoda]

nice

[opaque sun]

people should have done rams portal from older weekly fights checking ram kills

[vagrant mountain]

i just didnt get 5 skulls on that one

[shy flame]

my first pet was ram and that's because I took the time to get ram kills

may not be doot or rift slug but god damn is it handy as hell

[barren otter]

pretty sure it's 7

[agile pagoda]

Just got cascading scaled cape of krieg...

No idea if its good

[opaque sun]

Used maybe to snapshot hp/mp when sampling chopping/mining, but thats about it

[true flint]

Do the misc boosts, like 5% damage boost, apply permanently after doing the world 2 town fight?

[vagrant mountain]

until boss resets

[true flint]

Gotcha, ta

[vocal ibex]

Thanks

What's the update this weekend I don't see it on the notes

[dapper prism]

Equinox

New vials, resources, TD dmg removal (no lag) and other stuff from the looks.

#💖future-content-blog

[drifting breach]

Any fix been doing this for past 2 weeks

Have only been able to fight it once

[opaque sun]

Its not out yet. Just teasers on future content blog

[dapper prism]

Always #1084911530417606656

[dapper prism]

And cant be 2 weeks since the boss changes weekly o.o

[drifting breach]

No for the past two bosses dude

[opaque sun]

resets not happening can be due to if you switch devices alot

[drifting breach]

Only was able to fight rather of them once

It’s just rlly annoying because I haven’t been able to get any trophies

[dapper prism]

As said, #1084911530417606656 has a page with the proper combos usually, just need to make sure you actually double check each choice because some may be dependant on "how many Ram kills" and if its on an alt with 0 kills, it wont do much

[wind umbra]

i think he means his boss isnt refreshing

[ember oyster]

Imagine if stuff from the idleon ad actually was in idlon

[dapper prism]

Ohh, thought it was because of only 3 skull

[wooden whale]

can someone tell me why i keep getting boats 'trapped' in the harbor when i select a higher chest rarity?

[opaque sun]

Chests reaching capacity?

[wooden whale]

Yes, and with storage full and the boats coming back they're not sailing back out for a higher rarity like they should

When i click i'm just losing chests

[opaque sun]

Unless you claim the current chests, captains cant go out to sail again until they unload the chest they have

[azure spindle]

The game only checks chest rarity on delivery basically

[wooden whale]

That doesn't make sense. If a boat comes in with a lower rarity chest shouldn't it ignore it and head back out?

[opaque sun]

Chest rarity filter still does normal chest cap check

All it does is it immediately throws away chest not meeting the rarity

[wooden whale]

Yeah, but i want the boats themselves to have that rarity too. I'm just losing time otherwise

[azure spindle]

So since there isn't room for chests they just stop at dock until they can check what rarity they are

[wooden whale]

So it's wasted time basically

There's no reason to select a higher rarity chest

[opaque sun]

It sounds like you should be using unending sailing than trying to use chest filter for what you hope to achieve

[wooden whale]

I'm trying to get artifacts so the more chests there are the better, but one higher rarity gives a decent boost

[opaque sun]

multiple instances of cheap chests beats one high rare chest

[azure spindle]

Technically using a filter that isn't the bottom 2 chest rarities would probably work if you're gone for a day or less

[wooden whale]

I know. That's why i'm not using unending sailing

[wind umbra]

if ur ships are stuck on dock u can lower the threshold for chests and get all the chest

its not great but its an option

[opaque sun]

But with using filter, you are basically making it worse than using unending

[daring ravine]

the only time getting higher rarity chests are useful are for loot
you dont seem like you need loot
mathematically better to just use whatever youre given for artis instead of using unending loot or the filter

[wooden whale]

Yeah, which is why i'm here asking why the boats weren't sailing back out with low rarity chests. They should be dumping them and going back

[wind umbra]

the chests are only rolled if there is empty spots in loot pile

[opaque sun]

like when are you changing the filter

[wooden whale]

Only if i'm constantly checking. With 2 hour travel times a one higher rarity with one check per day at a one higher rarity is better for me

Well it's good to know that's why

[daring ravine]

use unending loot if you check once a day

large loss

[wooden whale]

unending loot is bad for artifacts. that skill barely seems to do anything

[opaque sun]

its not bad if you understand what it does

[wooden whale]

well it doesn't seem to offload the loot of the incoming chests

[vagrant mountain]

unending loot is good if you dont need artifacts

[daring ravine]

yes
the extra chests from the boats stopping means you get a higher arti chance
but if you dont use unending loot and check once a day youll have much less arti chance using filter and no unending loot
evenso using unending loot means boats move 24/7 = more exp = more arti % = more arti

what i mean is if you wanna get the most out of it you should check atleast every 2-6 hours

[opaque sun]

unending sailing is more of a sailing exp talent than rarity

[daring ravine]

^

its also slightly better for loot but you dont have the bubbles nor the need to upgrade the boats very much right now

[wooden whale]

does the loot of incoming boats get offloaded or is it strictly an occasional rarity boost?

[opaque sun]

Its like transfusion of sailing

[daring ravine]

they never stop
even if the dock is full

[opaque sun]

you dont get any loot that you dont manually claim

[daring ravine]

so if you have like 12 ships and 18 chest cap
you will get 30 chests when waking up
with unending loot youll get just like 18 (some may be a higher rarity)
but the main gimmick of unending loot is exp

[wooden whale]

i understand. i'm asking if the loot from an incoming boat with unending loot gets added to a stockpile or if it just vanishes

[opaque sun]

like chest filter, chest you missed to click just vanishes with the loot

[daring ravine]

the ships without unending loot when you hit the cap just stop at the dock

however the ones with unending loot keep going untill they find a chest of high rarity (as much as i understand?) and will always keep going

the chests they "bring" instantly evaporate and dont count to the stockpile

[opaque sun]

Unending indirectly offloads loots if it triggers a chest rarity upgrade in a way, but else its lost

[wooden whale]

so it's more like unending exp with a chance at a higher rarity

and a small boost in loot to whatever is clicked from the skill itself

[opaque sun]

The description of unending translates as “less overall chests for full sailing/captain exp. Also has a compensation mechanic to upgrade a chest for a very low chance”

[wooden whale]

cool

thanks for the help. i think i get it now

[eternal dove]

woo

[opaque sun]

hope it gave a good result in the main part of arcade with those balls

[eternal dove]

still 300 more arcade balls

[dapper prism]

Anyone know whats like an average Coin to balls for 1k balls? or what's a "good" amount of coins to get for 1k balls?

[eternal dove]

no stamps or anything special

[clear mango]

Where should i put shimmer points in

[eternal dove]

personally ive been gambling mine since day 1

[clear quartz]

all superchows outside of w5 done (and outside of the weird mobs that would be insane to superchow i guess)

[opaque sun]

mostly goes to efficiency

[clear quartz]

maybe can justify superchowing the dr dookie poops but the singular nutto and boops and invis shroom would be silly

[hollow wasp]

whats next?

[opaque sun]

Id say crystal, then rando, and fractal last

[hollow wasp]

ty

[eternal flax]

Is nightmare kattlekruk that difficult to kill, my dk is on auto mode and i think it will take like 30minutes zzz... 0.5b damage

[opaque sun]

0.5b damage will have issues yeah

like is it outpacing the healing?

[granite grove]

for reference on nkruk HP, 1Q is basically 1 million B, so that will take way too kuch time

[eternal flax]

no healing, the mobs are cleared by skills. just slow damage dealt

[opaque sun]

if unattended, auto bb will get few moles in there to heal at times

[junior delta]

Hi guys just unlocked this, what should i do? Also idk why i have 300+particels

[opaque sun]

Any overflown materials before atom collider are stored as particles

[junior delta]

When is it an overflow

[granite grove]

for every 10m resource over 1050m of any item in chest, you get an atom but lose 10m resource (that you could otherwise gain)

[opaque sun]

1050m

[junior delta]

Didnt turn it on yet

[junior delta]

Ohhh i see

[opaque sun]

Atom collider itself is not needed to generate particles

[granite grove]

it still procs even if collider is off

[opaque sun]

its just “particle shop”

[junior delta]

So what should i invest my atoms on

[opaque sun]

Best to leave at 1050m and dont turn on collider to avoid accidents

[granite grove]

but to be safe, have collider off at all time AND convert set to 1050m

[junior delta]

Thanks for the warnings

[granite grove]

note that the set rate is saved locally so if you changed device with a 10m while auto collider is on, it would be an big oopsie

[opaque sun]

“conversion threshold” is basically bad wording of “lower your storage cap for some weird kink”

[junior delta]

I see

[granite grove]

masochism basically

[opaque sun]

1050m cap was basically introduced as lava’s way to fix the “2.1b overflow going to negative on 32-bit mobile devices”, and atom collider was like a compensation for adding such cap

[eternal flax]

Oops my DK damage is 5000M-9000M, that is 5b not 0.5b. yet taking 30min to kill nkruk

[granite grove]

tho kinda wonder what lava did for gaming bits since number goes high very fast

or maybe lava just use first few significant digits and then count the total number of digit or sth?

[dapper prism]

Doesnt bits technically only go to 1000?

[uneven violet]

Can’t you change the overflow to smth lower?

[dapper prism]

Like, i could highly imagine him not using the full number but rather 1000 = 1 K and 1000 K = 1M etc.

[opaque sun]

with current knowledge, he can fix items to go over 2.1b

But now that he already implemented atoms, cant really revert back by taking away atom from players

[junior delta]

If i had to gusse, there is probably a counter for when you hit a certain milestone for example you hit 1B bits counter goes up in 1, i gusse the is a counter to the counter too

[opaque sun]

like lava fixed accuracy overflowing on mobile, but has not fixed the squire’s refinery damage talent still overflows when checking if accuracy is 1,5x more the requirement

[clear quartz]

iirc its a library of large numbers thing he might use, but i only base that off every other idle game ive touched that goes over larger problem numbers. cursed e308

[magic oyster]

My bar production seems to be lagging soooo far behind ore production - I think I have all the forge upgrades and a SB with max smelting running about, is there something I am missing ?

[clear quartz]

forge capacity

[opaque sun]

smelting is heavily limited by forge cap

[clear quartz]

sb eventually runs into the issue of he can use a candy or afk for any length of time, but only can convert as much as is in the forge at a time

[opaque sun]

thus people have to 2min claim or use 1 hr candies

[dapper prism]

Toss your 3 archers to gmush and do 2min claims for an hour or longer. ezpz

[opaque sun]

Each afk claim can only smelt 1 forge cap worth. And with current kills that archers make, it only takes 2 min to smelt one forge cap worth of ores

[dapper prism]

^ In other words, 2mins of afk and 1000 days of afk will net you the same amount of bars.

[shy flame]

that's not very Idle of you (but I may do something similar soon for splicing)

[magic oyster]

Forge capacity is 23k, there's no way to increase it other than the forge upgrades right ?

[dapper prism]

W5 achievement, 5mil citringe.
Current arcade rotation

[clear quartz]

would be poggers if we get a stamp or something for it

[magic oyster]

Oh wow, that citringe one is huge, and I have had that covered for months lol

Thanks 8)

[shy flame]

getting 5mil orange slices is kind of just useful in general for being able to make better gear

[opaque sun]

it helps, but those forge cap upgrades are still a drop in the ocean

And active farming on archers doesnt help as it overcomes the cap limitation, but then its limited by “active farming somehow only counts base kills”

[dark cipher]

what should I rely on in world 5
Now (38 lvl sailing, 25 lvl almost on all players on divinity and lvl 42 games

[dapper prism]

Level is kinda irrelevant...

[shy flame]

tbh I'm a big fan of hitting 40 div on everyone so I can just tranqi and never do div again

[dapper prism]

Sailing is about artifacts.
Divinity is about gods.
Gaming is kinda meh until you get some superbits.

[opaque sun]

W5 stuff isnt really mutually exclusive so not sure what you want

[dapper prism]

Check pins for divinity stuff, biggest goal is to get to Goat ASAP

[opaque sun]

sailing and gaming can be progressed in parallel to other things, and divinity doesnt take too long to finish if you look at the big picture

[shy flame]

but aI'm pretty sure a lot of div stuff benefits from upgrading god blessings, somewhat from kitchen meals, bubbles, etc.

[dark cipher]

I have goat

[dapper prism]

then go for tiger next

[shy flame]

which god is tiger

[magic oyster]

purrmep

[shy flame]

you look at that big mane and think, "that's obviously a tiger, and not like, a lion"?

[dapper prism]

Huh, thats clearly a tiger

[mild merlin]

Wait how do you have so low gaming level

[dark cipher]

Just farming seeds

[mild merlin]

I have like 56+ gaming level with around the same sailing/div level

[gaunt shale]

its called purrmep, in my head its a cat cosplaying as a tiger

[dapper prism]

Good night 🙂

[dark cipher]

Idk i was most interested to farm artefacts

[shy flame]

on what planet do y'all live where tigers got all this beard

[dapper prism]

Its the fluffy cheecks, a lions mane is completely different

A mane of a tiger goes above the ears etc.

Also the facial stripes, scream tiger.

[shy flame]

Those aren't stripes, that's shading to help display the layers of fur

[dark cipher]

What is the best style for me (lvl 25 divinity)
I use focus

[shy flame]

But I will admit this is more of a goatee style which fits tigers

[eternal flax]

finally cleared nkruk, that was 45min.... next is to clear without it healing itself that will be another 45min

[shy flame]

iirc you get vitalic at level 20, which is just better unless you're hoping for a single char to get all the div levels for everyone

Even then, I kind of stick to "get everyone to 40" so they can just all be on tranqi and gain exp regardless of anyone doing divinity actively

I don't think that's the best strat if you're new to world 5 because there's a ton of bonuses to divinity and divinity exp you can get (especially when you get Purrmep, the Liger). But get bear and goat early and later come back to get liger

work up top, layers of fluff on the bottom, purrmep is a liger

[mild merlin]

Ayy I can reach unadulterated banking Fury now

Its 6% damage

[dark cipher]

What did kattlecruk?

[mild merlin]

Nothing except the blessing

[sacred verge]

uppdate this week? will it be weekend?

[teal lynx]

No specific date afaik

Might drop tomorrow, who knows

[opaque sun]

Next debate will be if Harriep is a hare or a rabbit

[sacred verge]

lol

[opaque sun]

and cant forget if arctis is a polar bear, or just normal bear just godly shiny

[magic oyster]

arctis is obviously just some dude in a polar bear costume

[shy flame]

Sounds like someone isn't willing to admit Purrmep is a liger

[sacred verge]

none of the gods are animals, they are gods...

[magic oyster]

On a totally different topic - I don't seem to be able to complete the royal wurm quest because there aren't enough world 4 quests available. Is that chain only finishable on whichever character did the world 4 intro quests ?

[opaque sun]

probably just overlooking

[shy flame]

I think it'd help if you specified what specific royal wurm quest you're on

[elfin idol]

the one to do 22 quests

[magic oyster]

That's the one - 17/22, can't find any others

Is there some secret quest giver I missed maybe ?

[opaque sun]

The cube gelatin pig and donut pig quests done?

[magic oyster]

Yep those two are done

[opaque sun]

Monolith done?

[magic oyster]

Yep

[clear quartz]

arctis is just walmart brand volibear

[elfin idol]

Whats toolbox showing?

[stoic silo]

does any1 have the list of all the things that boost card drop?

[autumn ledge]

Is there a good vman guide to speedrunning? Did my first one yesterday, got to w2 crabs, but would like to see what I should aim for etc

[stoic silo]

quests

[elfin idol]

i mean to the guy saying he is missing quests haha

[stoic silo]

oh

[autumn ledge]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=card

[stoic silo]

thanks

[autumn ledge]

Also: why do I sometimes get gaming progress through my divinity. I'm not complaining, but still :p

[opaque sun]

thats just your bubble effect if you have sheepie

[magic oyster]

Also that's a handy screen, I had never looked at that one before

[elfin idol]

Do you have this or elephant god/doot?

[drifting breach]

Precisely thank you danyun

[autumn ledge]

I do not

[autumn ledge]

Wait is this to me?

What bubble?

[magic oyster]

17 matches up with all the ones that you can do on every character - which is why i was wondering if it excludes quests that give shared credit, also i can't remember which char I did the w4 into on ;p

[autumn ledge]

Still 35 orders to go before I have extra crates...

[opaque sun]

The orange big bubble that gives game progress by a chance when claiming any afk including divinity

[autumn ledge]

Euh

I don't think so....

But can't find it in the wiki either

I'm at 'multiorange'

Or what cauldron are we taliing?

[opaque sun]

Orange means orange

[elfin idol]

like 4 more to go til this one

[autumn ledge]

Ah okay, thanks. So sadly still no

[opaque sun]

If you are still at multi orange, then its either you using omni (elephant) god, or you just got doot, or its the DK’s talent

Any case, its not coming from doing divinity altar

[autumn ledge]

It's DK!

Thanks

He's been my main active for so long, I didn't really look into this talent points when I put him on divinity yesterdag

[vestal edge]

any ways to increase dna in gaming ? cuz it seems to be stuck at 3% on 1500 dna

[tacit tulip]

the gains in gaming are decaying. Ideally you want to roll at a low % (0.1-0.2), often.

As you'll get hundreds of rolls at that level for a single 3% roll

[granite grove]

theres hard cap, best to just roll at every one or two all harvests

[vestal edge]

okey thanks guys

is it same for artifacts i get chest of below 1%

[granite grove]

say, x/(1+x) times 10

the X multiplier with 10, the X approaches but never exceeds 1 even if X is theoretically infinite, could apply the same to many bubbles, talents, and also gaming researchs

artifact also best to just spam low quality chests

[sacred verge]

the man knows his math

[iron mesa]

1 + 1?

[sacred verge]

its more complicated than 1+1 lol

[granite grove]

oh whoops, should be X/(X+1)

[iron mesa]

I mean, what's 1 + 1

[sacred verge]

2?

im not sure iget what ur asking, lol

[tight saddle]

https://i.imgur.com/ybRuAGV.png I thought that I could FINALLY pop the achievement, but it was for the gold bars...

[gray blaze]

Is atom conversion rate affected by rarity?
I know most posts says no, but my idleontoolbox seem to suggest otherwise (e.g. comparing oak vs birch, oak produces more item, but less atoms)

[opaque sun]

10m oak produces same particles as 10m dandelion logs

[tacit tulip]

Yeah no idea what IT is saying there

Ah, it'd assuming you hourly click bubbles?

[opaque sun]

birch one sounds right

Something wrong with your oak side

[tacit tulip]

Should be showing 447 yeah

[opaque sun]

4472 - 2400 = 2072
Issue is it costs 1000m, not 100m per bubble click so not sure what is trying to calculate

[gray blaze]

Hmm its due to my oak being lower than the 100m atom threshold. Will stock up and recheck it

[gray blaze]

Thanks for helping to check with your setup btw!

[opaque sun]

Ew, you have your threshold not at 1050m?

[gray blaze]

My collider is off, so it automatically converts at 1050m. But its 100m on idleontoolbox

[crisp silo]

Most likely hour clicking oak or smth

[gray blaze]

[100m -> essentially just for show]

[crisp silo]

Wait a minute, ewwww

[opaque sun]

Guess IT seems to assume you click 100m per bubble, which isnt incorporating anyone setting it anything but 1000m

[keen arch]

so for the slab is there a way to get all the old quest rewards besides making a new character?

[opaque sun]

Some are added to quest reclaim via the quest menu, but for most, nope. Only option is to wait for 11th char

[upbeat trout]

is there any chart with artifact chances ?

[raw tundra]

😮

what slab quest?

[pine pond]

hi hi 😄

[hybrid spindle]

any reason why my anvil produced items weren't automatically deposited in the storage despite this w3 thing being turned on?

[opaque sun]

quest items counting for slab. Not slab quest

[opaque sun]

Its deposited on day reset

[hybrid spindle]

that just happened an hour ago, yet I have numbers in my anvil of about 10 hours

[opaque sun]

So you basically need material cap (anvil cap) that can hold at least a day’s worth

[tacit tulip]

It also doesn't work very well, blame lava

[opaque sun]

And its lava coded to only happen on the first guy you login

[hybrid spindle]

what does my cap have to do with it?

[sacred verge]

how should my trap setup look like?

any tips

[hybrid spindle]

wait what? it only happens on one guy 👀

how useless is that

[sacred verge]

assuming i got w5 trap

[opaque sun]

Cap matters as like if your cap is too small, it gets filled in like an hour

[hybrid spindle]

i know that

[opaque sun]

and we dont know your cap situation

[hybrid spindle]

so i planned to produce shit that can accumulate for at least 24 hours....but if it doesn't collect everyone every day then this strat is obsolete

[opaque sun]

Unless more info is provided, im giving out various possibilities of what might be happening

[tacit tulip]

1x nature trap on every character, set by your Vman, so they get EXP
All nature traps on Vman to level it up for the vman talent that increases critters/souls
Rest use royal traps (I use the 40h ones) on a critter you want (vials, stamps etc)

[hybrid spindle]

it only resets one guy, that seems to be sufficient information

[sacred verge]

tyty

[opaque sun]

trust me, there are many people who asks questions with obvious oversights

[hybrid spindle]

I'm sure there are

and I'm probably one of them

[tacit tulip]

I doubt it's 100% optimal but it works well

[hybrid spindle]

works well? If I have to manually collect anvils tuff on 9/10 chars then I wouldn't call that "well" ^^

[tacit tulip]

Two conversations happening at once

[hybrid spindle]

mb

[opaque sun]

Sakori talking about the trap thing

For anvil, its kind of known arm is like “slightly better than nothing”, but still should keep the old habit of depositing anvil items when afk claiming people

[elfin idol]

So this happened... would you spend or wait for patch

[tacit tulip]

forge cap is one of the most useful imo

[opaque sun]

you can wait for patch and ask someone else what the new rotation is before patching yours

[lost depot]

Forge cap, Refinery speed, Shinies and afk gains are good

Get them to lv30+

[elfin idol]

the biggest of brains

[tacit tulip]

On the note of trapping, I'm probably at the point of knocking out the critter vials

Would goose be worth doing first due to the +base critters?

obviously it'll take the longest still

[elfin idol]

Done and ill save the 4k left for next patch

[elfin idol]

iguess compare the jump from 11 to 13, to 2% gain from finishing other vials sooner*

[prisma lance]

it's better to focus on Quick slap or Name I Guess?

[opaque sun]

If you mean of spending limited amounts of atom clicks, slap offers more damage per level

but since name i guess can be easily printed, people hourly click name i guess while atom clicking slap (while slowly printing combs for few slap clicks)

[tacit tulip]

Print name, atom bob 😄

[opaque sun]

The orange base bubble gets no attention as it uses similar mob mat as slap, but damage scales a bit worse than slap

There are two major factions of atom bob and atom slap

Me being a turncoat, atom 20 slaps and 20 bobs a day

[tacit tulip]

I can't judge, only been atoming bob a couple days

[sacred verge]

expected you to have alot higher lvl bob

[tacit tulip]

You'll learn soon enough that my olaystyle is "lazy lategamer"

[sacred verge]

lol

[tacit tulip]

I'm here through game time not optimisation

[sacred verge]

why not

im not much of a optimizer myself

[tacit tulip]

I just do whatever I find interestijg basically

[sacred verge]

more or less the same

[tacit tulip]

Never hourly clicked a bubble, use bear too much etc

Sampling is for nerds

[sacred verge]

agree

[zealous niche]

Me too..

[tacit tulip]

despite my laziness my construction mastery is actually pretty decent

I last did OJ bay like 8 months ago. Can probably beat this now

[sacred verge]

100%

i got to wave 100 with about 50 in every tower

and i stopped bcus it was slow

[tacit tulip]

but it'd require me to do it

which is a lot of effort

I did finally make con obols this week!

a large portion of my missing slab are just quest items

not because I forgot to drop them - because I never did it in the first place 😄

[elfin idol]

those npc tokens you can get haha

click them here they go back to bag

[tacit tulip]

someone told me there's a quest in w3 that needs me to move my shrines and I was just like "nope"

[elfin idol]

oh ye for the tree guy

[tacit tulip]

no you don't understand. I haven't done the quest

[elfin idol]

lol theres 6 other quest line tokens in that s/s whats your excuse for them 👀

[tacit tulip]

realising I cba to do them all meant I couldn't be bothered to do any 😄

I'm like, the alpha-lazy

[elfin idol]

gotta get that luck for quests completed

im not doing the tree one either, after that shrine moving you need to afk a specific amount of time 3 times

[tacit tulip]

Should probably do dungeon sometime too

[elfin idol]

that is so many hahaha

[tacit tulip]

oooh apparently I hit 1.2k in slab though

[lost glen]

has there always been a red tree at the killler roundabout map? o.o

[zealous niche]

Yeah

[lost glen]

literally never saw it

[weary sonnet]

Boys! Where can you get the most genes? Or what formula do you need to pay attention to?

[muted slate]

most genes is from 2 minute claims on your highest kph map

[weary sonnet]

That is, the most profitable option for gene mining is to log in every 2 minutes after afk farming? 🤔

[muted slate]

yup because theres diminshing returns on the kills

and 2 mins is minimum claim time

[weary sonnet]

Does the same formula work on rarity drops?

[muted slate]

no those work differently

that just depends on your dr

[weary sonnet]

But there also seems to be a formula for decreasing production every hour. 🤔

[muted slate]

dont you mean rare drops like glass shards etc

[weary sonnet]

This definitely applies to statues.

[muted slate]

not that i know of but maybe im unaware of something

[iron mesa]

frogs, sand giants, mustache, cans (ig)

[weary sonnet]

But why, according to what formula?

[iron mesa]

higher mob count

[muted slate]

those tend to be the highest kph maps

[opaque sun]

afk tends to ignore the bad platform layout and basically just counts the mob counts

[weary sonnet]

Guys, thanks for the explanation

[jolly talon]

I put one of my characters with goat god (divinity when in lab) in lab, with the mantra style (1exp/h for all charaters), but when I claim afk gains on other characters, I see no divinity exp... what am i doing wrong?

[teal lynx]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[opaque sun]

Shared exp doesnt show on afk claim menu, but its added

[jolly talon]

ok, thanks

does this mean, if i have two of them on mantra, since i need to claim one before the other, I need to claim both, then go back to the first character to get the shared mantra exp from the second?

[opaque sun]

If you really need that shared exp from second to do something on the first, yea (like in a hurry to the next style or something?)

[patent hatch]

i think im one away too lol

[lament jasper]

ur luck is crazy

[buoyant mural]

Just upgraded my Nuggy from 2k to 10k after like 3 months of nothing ❤️

[loud cedar]

Yesterday was a good day lol

[lament jasper]

also i missed my 50% divinity again 👍

[loud cedar]

I'm taking all your luck huh lol

Also I thought there was an achievement for meeting game dev? I never got it

[lament jasper]

at least i unlocked 5 vials in 3 days 🥲

there is on steam yeah

W1 achiev

[loud cedar]

Steam

I was on my phone

[lament jasper]

lol

[loud cedar]

Dumb

[tacit tulip]

iirc that achievement has a failsafe, if you get all other w1 achievements it should also unlock

for if lava dies or just decides he doesn't like us anymore

[muted slate]

failsafe is for all other steam achievemnts

[hybrid spindle]

is there a certain class i should complete the onyx statue questline on first?

[thin kernel]

well start saving up status for it XD and dont use them ( unless is for quest) and wait dumping them.. til you have it unlock XD

and you need to do it on all char anyways so pick one 😄

[teal lynx]

Probably easiest on a DK. Since you need to farm statues anyway

[muted slate]

does orb level stay over colloseum runs since the buff stays?

[teal lynx]

Someone told me it does and it also feels like it. But can't 100% confirm it

But like 95% sure it does stay between runs

[muted slate]

yeah it looks like it judging from my drops too

ty

[opaque sun]

its basically recasting orb with less duration

So the orb count doesnt stay, but you dont have to wait around for orb cooldown

[muted slate]

ahh ok, makes more sense since youd cheese bosses with it otherwise i suppose

[opaque sun]

Else yeah people would rack up kills at wurm, then move to colo/minibosses

[hybrid spindle]

you can do that anyways can't you?

at least for the ones outside colo

[opaque sun]

Like whats the point. Orb kill count dont carry over map changes

You can rack up kills and summon the mini boss on the same map, yes. Not carry over kills from other map

[hybrid spindle]

that's what I meant

[opaque sun]

Wurms was brought up as example as its a map you can get like 900 orb kills

You cant get 900 kills on slush/mutated mush map

[vale wadi]

question, should I wait till my plants in gaming go in next evo or should I just click them? just bought next evo for 2b green

[unreal forum]

I use kitsune when I try to push plant evo’s

[vale wadi]

I got him on. maybe I should upgrade him further, does that help?

[hybrid spindle]

if you use it, then upgrading it is very useful

[covert rivet]

Can someone give some pointers on what i can go after? Feel like i am pretty advanced and could do a bunch of things for Minmaxing but idk what is worth chasing. https://r1kyu.idleonefficiency.com

[chrome tiger]

hellelujah!

[teal lynx]

Daily Keys and do your Minibosses on a DK

[elfin idol]

Boss quests, anvil points, vials, salt lick, oxygen on atom collider are free wins

Massive amounts of slab left

Obols are empty too on many

[teal lynx]

Is there a reason why everyone is on goat and you are still on the Div Altar?
Move them back to lab pls

[covert rivet]

i got doot so it dont matter or?

Wanted to get last god

[teal lynx]

For Lab XP while getting Div

With Doot you should never be on the Div Altar

[covert rivet]

Ah okay then i confused it lol

[teal lynx]

Goat makes it that when you are connected to Lab you are also getting Div gains

And well Doot automatically activates Goat

[sick sentinel]

First off you can do the ez stuff like get all your chars done with key quests. Theres lots of ez achievements you can go through, helps with gaming superbits. Missing some stamps, work towards getting 10k stamp lvl eventually. Alchemy is lacking, especially skilling bubbles like the big bubbles, the big ones cap out from all sources at 300% so try to get there. Claim worship. Try to get the new meals in cooking. Do you have doot pet?

Ah i see you have doot now

Sry mobile slowness

[covert rivet]

Okay thanks. Yeah i got doot with my first free roll lol

[teal lynx]

Oh and you need someone connected to Purrmep/Tiger. The only god you need to manually allign to with Doot

[covert rivet]

The others are irrelevant right?

[teal lynx]

With Doot, yes

Purrmep is coded weird, since only 1 Guy can connect to him

[opaque sun]

Purrmep’s minor link bonus specifically needs actual link

The main effect of purrmep works regardless tho

[covert rivet]

Ok thanks for the tips gys

[cerulean dragon]

does killers brightside stack with nobisect giving 4x per kill on opening gates?

[sick sentinel]

i believe so

[cerulean dragon]

awesome

[zenith ember]

How’s the misc bonuses from the weekly challenge work? Like the +% class exp bonus for example.

Does is stack each day I do it? Does it only last 1 day and I need to redo it? Etc

[sick sentinel]

i believe each time you restart the boss that misc buff resets

[opaque sun]

stacks for that week

[sick sentinel]

nvm then

[opaque sun]

Seems to have some cap tho

[untold saffron]

Now where do I move all the lads who have been key farming

[sick sentinel]

gmush, skilling

[teal lynx]

W4 Key Farming for the Quest?

[pearl cedar]

Div/lab

[true obsidian]

gamble?

[green eagle]

that would mean i'd have to get the mining minigame achievement 🙃 at least i already have every other w1 achievement anyways lmao

[sacred verge]

these worth investing in over fractal?

[signal osprey]

Thats what I'm doing

[green eagle]

i did the first two levels of each

[sacred verge]

which one tho?

[paper sail]

It is completed

[signal osprey]

Probably both as they are basically multiplicative with each other

[sacred verge]

i guess somewhat even. i assume the price increases with every buy

[signal osprey]

The first makes bosses drop more lot and the second gives more bosses which will also drop extra loot from the first upgrade

[slim tiger]

Hi, i just arrived in W5 and trying to do sailing it says to put a captain in the ship and drag the ship towards the island in the map i put the captain in the ship
but it wont let me drag the ship on the map

can anyone help maybe

[hybrid spindle]

is there a list of all sources for crystal chance?

[green eagle]

show a screenshot of your sailing map?

[true obsidian]

what is this? is it new update or something?

[green eagle]

rando island bonuses

[signal osprey]

They dont have the copper bar yet

[true obsidian]

oh, i didn't get it yet. thank for information

[sacred verge]

did any1 calculate the time to get last island? (fractal)

[slim tiger]

It wont let me send pictures

[green eagle]

truuuuue

[green eagle]

you gotta talk for a bit, my bad

you aren't a copper bar rank yet

[slim tiger]

Can i send you a dm instead?

[sacred verge]

nvm, its about 70 days for 5th to 6th island (fractal

[cerulean hemlock]

Dude looks so cute, did he finally get fixed?

[sacred verge]

not too bad tbh

[hybrid spindle]

so nothing to do unless I can improve a shrine or afford another stamp extension

anything else I have to watch out for aside from max DR when I'm statue farming?

[slim tiger]

I send it to you dm hope thats ok

[tropic kiln]

where do I active for seesaw statues

[violet iris]

for talents, 267 in orb, max out statue and all active skills so they clear the map asap

[sick sentinel]

i think it was quenchies or cryosnakes

[paper sail]

Cryosnakes, yeah

[sick sentinel]

snakes

[tropic kiln]

thanks

[green eagle]

what do you mean?

[opaque sun]

since the rando island double boss uses a calendar icon, im kind of skeptical with it. It may suggest that double boss only works on the weekly guaranteed bosses (basically just limited to rando island)

[hybrid spindle]

"max out statue"? what's that supposed to mean?

[opaque sun]

The loot bonus says “all bosses” but double boss doesnt say “all” is also what scares me

[muted slate]

the dk talent

[nimble yarrow]

What is best method to farm statues on vman for monolith quest?

[hybrid spindle]

why though?

[signal osprey]

Rando island wouldnt spawn its boss when the update originally dropped

[muted slate]

for faster clears and doubling up on them

having 2 up is nice

[cerulean hemlock]

The rando island used to only give one event

[paper sail]

Levels into the Knight Statue give bonus duration, which is just a net win

[hybrid spindle]

how does increasing power/mining/defense statues help clear a map quicker? 👀

[paper sail]

They're talking about the DK talent for the Knight that shoots shockwaves

[muted slate]

knightly disciple talent is the "statue"he was referring to

[hybrid spindle]

oh

lmao

yeah, that makes more sense

[rough plaza]

im dumb and need help, i have 2 captains and 2 boats but i cant get anyone in my second boat

[green eagle]

like one in total forever? because yeah the dude doesn't seem to have an event almost every week for me lol

[green eagle]

i just answered this

[hybrid spindle]

unfortunately my cap is still 195....and the fury artifact refuses to drop again

[cerulean hemlock]

yep, I meant when it was 1st released

[green eagle]

click the boat on the dock, click your 2nd captain who is walking on the dock, that will put someone in the ship

[cerulean hemlock]

buy dude from sailor shop, click on boat outside of that map

[queen raft]

Maby someone knows what AFK nothing u get at 10k hours?

[opaque sun]

Hire captain from slave market at right side of dock

[queen raft]

Is it worth going event past that?

[green eagle]

the bonuses are on the wiki already

[opaque sun]

25% gold nugget?

[lunar viper]

whats the best way to farm W1 - 3 nightmare boss cards?

[cerulean hemlock]

*Intern market

[queen raft]

Aa thanks, didnt saw!

[rough plaza]

ohhh got it, thanks

[opaque sun]

It now digs 5 nuggets instead of 4

[cerulean hemlock]

DK colo for keys

[true obsidian]

Before and After...not bad

[cerulean hemlock]

Meh for 2k it's below the below average

Aside from gems, I think that's slightly above average

[opaque sun]

Like what was the gold balls

[hybrid spindle]

that's considered good 👀 i hope you have never played idle skilling

[green eagle]

what a sad bonus, who even cares haha

[opaque sun]

Who cares of the non gold balls drops you get from arcade

[true obsidian]

well, with a guy got 1 click on 3d print for whole week(9 days exactly), i considered that not bad

maybe become 10 days in next few hours

[green eagle]

he's lying to us again can only assume it will be sometime at the end of the week.

[sacred verge]

at what point do you guys stop atoming cooking roadkill? if at any point

[hybrid spindle]

it always is

I've never seen lava announce it like this just to release it on a tuesday

[green eagle]

nope, not always

[hybrid spindle]

Well, I've been away for a year, so it might have changed but I won't get my hopes up

[opaque sun]

If it reached like 100%-110%, just hourly click it id say

[hybrid spindle]

cooking roadkill is what?

[opaque sun]

Big bubble for cranium cooking

[sacred verge]

im at almost 113%, hourly clicking. but do i got infinity lvls?

do i go forever

[signal osprey]

Every click goes forever

[sacred verge]

fair enough, just seems to slow quite a bit down

[opaque sun]

Keep clicking until like 118-119%

[sacred verge]

damn, alright

[opaque sun]

Like using one log printer slot isnt that expensive

[sacred verge]

yeah thats what im doing

[green eagle]

his onyx statues update was released on august 21, a monday lol

[hybrid spindle]

can you explain to me what hourly clicking means?

[hybrid spindle]

but has he announced it as "some time this week"?

[sacred verge]

uppgrading bubbles every hour.

[opaque sun]

When you print 1b of stuff so you can click the alchemy button everytime the printer prints every hour

[hybrid spindle]

ahhhhh

i was confused because of the atoming cooking roadkill

[opaque sun]

Alchemy’s material cost caps at 1b no matter how high the bubble is

[hybrid spindle]

yes, I know that

[sacred verge]

also, if i may ask. what bubbles should i prioritize for hourly? doing str, agi, wis, hearty diggy, cooking roadkill, hammer hammer atm

any other i should be getting?

[hybrid spindle]

but I'm only at 50m stuff an hour, so far off from 1 upgrade every hour ^^

[sacred verge]

also doing larry (not every hour)

[green eagle]

literally same day

[opaque sun]

Rule of thumb is that bubbles that can be easily printed should not waste much daily atom tries (unless to quickly boost the first few levels to get the effect)

[signal osprey]

Name I guess, stronk tools, and severapurple are good

[dim pewter]

We can fish on this map ???

[opaque sun]

Hammer hammer

[signal osprey]

Gold, platinum, and void ores

[sacred verge]

serva i did untill 90% (dropped it for hammer and larry atm) name i guess also dropped in order to do others. getting Le brain tools as often as i can

[opaque sun]

Its a common scam technique done by haker to make you screenshot it and advertise their guild name that usually is an url to a scam site

So basically you fell for posting that image

[sacred verge]

never heard about that before

smart moves lol

[dim pewter]

smart but no url here :p

or am blind

[opaque sun]

Its the reason why we cant type in ha c ker in this discord

Because somehow mods thought by filtering that word, it prevents people to fall for it

[dim pewter]

[sacred verge]

what cards would be worth a 5* cardifier? besides crystal spawn and dr cards

[true obsidian]

anyway to fast lv in with those non-respawn class(vman, hunter, bloddberserker,...)?

[hybrid spindle]

I have an entirely different problem. I want to get Larry to 100% but each upgrade costs 1.5k atoms and that's like 50k atoms a day. Something I can absolutely not afford with mere 50m samples

[opaque sun]

Like for that instance its not an url, but basically he is affiliated with those cheating groups

[hybrid spindle]

can you farm 6* cards once you unlock them or is the only way to get them the cardifier?

[sacred verge]

can farm

just quite the job

[dim pewter]

mh okay

[muted slate]

harriep and elephant it up and see if you can then maybe

[molten flax]

some are pretty easy to 6* though

[autumn wasp]

is it better to print void ores or is it faster to get atoms from printing copper to level that bubble?

[tacit tulip]

Maybe someone got the update early and lava added fishing spots to w5 too 😄

[green eagle]

what level is 90% on it again?

[sacred verge]

to give you an example. this is a rather hard one tho

[sacred verge]

areound 290 iirc

[opaque sun]

If you cant regularly print 1000m oaks, you are too early to make use of atoms (and hourly clicks) honestly

[autumn wasp]

so even tho this says 100% i still need 501?

[signal osprey]

In theory the fastest would be to do both but you have to consider the opportunity cost of using atom clicks on it. The point of hourly clicks is to get bubble levels without using atoms so you can use atoms on other things that are harder to farm

[autumn wasp]

ty

[green eagle]

thanks, that was a forgotten bubble for me apparently, only at 170 atm

[opaque sun]

logs and ore using bubbles usually you dont need to atom unless its a very high priority buff like larry

[green eagle]

it's rounding up

[hybrid spindle]

two words I have no clue what they mean ^^

[muted slate]

div gods in w5

[manic prism]

so my roster is, BB Bubo SB DK ES BM void DK Beginner ES, what should i make the beginner into, im well into the 500 levels i just never wanted to risk turning him into something suboptimal

[sacred verge]

np, thats some great buffs for you 😄

[hybrid spindle]

yes, my highest samples are 50m with double/tripple that's only 100/150m

[daring ravine]

Youre in w5 chat
Don't spoiler

[opaque sun]

Id wait for the next update to decide class

The next update may or may not bump up to require 2 BB

[manic prism]

Next update as the one coming out this week, or W6?

[opaque sun]

The equinox update

[unkempt quest]

both

[sacred verge]

id be sad if we need two BB

[hybrid spindle]

why would you think so?

[green eagle]

yep, have been focusing on getting larry to 105 atm, but planning on 110 soon

[manic prism]

Its so funny tho cause i have been saying ill do something with him next update and i never do anything lol...

[sacred verge]

if two BB becomes meta, does that mean i need to superchow a new BB thne?

[manic prism]

the next update comes and im like well i guess next update

[opaque sun]

If like say equinox has like infinite skilling to progress a buff like gmush killing, and cant be sampled

[green eagle]

[hybrid spindle]

We could just get 13 total chars....then we could have 2 out of every class except void

[opaque sun]

then you will need 2 BBs. One to cook and other to infinite farm equinox fish

[green eagle]

yep, on pc at least

[manic prism]

Im currently super chowing my first one in case something with cooking comes up[

[opaque sun]

Its just speculation, but a possibility

[hybrid spindle]

can it proc 2 times?

👀

[green eagle]

i knew having two barbarians would be the gigabrain move eventually. too bad my first one is the one who superchowed everything maybe he will fix that bug

[sacred verge]

im gonna be sad if i need to restart superchow

[opaque sun]

If equinox fish is sample-able, then you wont need 2 BB

So that is why im saying maybe wait till this weekend to figure out if class meta changes

[sacred verge]

or maaybe

just maybe

[daring ravine]

The thing is that if lava adds new elites or makes sometthhing like 2 bb meta he would probably add 1 gem swap tokens
Or he would not and watch #idleon-gen-chat blow up

[sacred verge]

new meta is 3 BB

[signal osprey]

Realistically class meta isnt that big of a deal until new worlds anyway

[sacred verge]

!!!!

[opaque sun]

Also buy the elite swap for insurance

[sacred verge]

i bought 1 swap

should i be getting more

[signal osprey]

Like yeah some are better than others but theres nothing game changing/breaking by having 2 of a certain class or not having 2 of another

As long as you have at least 1 of everything youre fine

[opaque sun]

2 in total maybe to switch and switch back again

Like waiting another week isnt that much of a loss to take a peek of what might be coming

[sacred verge]

another week? wdym

[green eagle]

my 2nd barb is still a barb, so i can just wait and see honestly

[opaque sun]

The update is coming in a week or so

[sacred verge]

didnt future content say uppdate would be out this week?

[signal osprey]

I expect it in the next couple of days. He doesnt usually do in game messages until hes almost ready

[opaque sun]

In game lava announcement

[green eagle]

finallyyyyyy time to make some GOOD FOOD

[signal osprey]

Plus the beta got its second update a few hours ago which means he already had a chance to address some of the issues in the first beta

[green eagle]

was almost done getting all plates to 50, that's how long i was waiting for this to drop lmao

[opaque sun]

Out this week usually means like on the week end

[molten flax]

im sad going away for the weekend so only have ios version which never gets patched lol

[green eagle]

should i go for the dreamcatcher that does nothing now on the offchance it does something later? or go for the mask that is hardly any dmg increase? lol

[signal osprey]

Steam link

[opaque sun]

if you are net picky that 5 days isn’t a week, then im sorry for rounding it up saying ‘week’

[green eagle]

wonder what the problems were

[signal osprey]

Might not have even been a problem. Maybe just a last minute addition

[opaque sun]

It takes like 3-4 days after beta goes up for alpha testers

[sacred verge]

thats not what i ment. I was asking if he announced in future content that it was comming this week?

[opaque sun]

If it has some contents, it may take like 5-6 days

[green eagle]

no, just ingame announcement that was a shill for the discord lol

[sacred verge]

cus i was pretty sure ive seen it. but couldnt fint it anymore

alright

[opaque sun]

This

[drifting swan]

Whats everyones current go to for obol sets? I'm in a position where I wanna start fill up my boards and not sure what to get.

[opaque sun]

one personal sets of skill obols, and then dr for the ones that doesnt get the skill obols

W1-W2 skill obols needs to be slowly made from alchemy shop tho

[drifting swan]

Oh that simple? for DK's is it worth getting 2 srts or just 1?

[drifting swan]

Yea I've been stock piling those and just filling up boards / storage just needed a focus

[versed cypress]

Lavaflame2 - 275 bench NEW PR :D — Yesterday at 10:32 AM
Image
New update will be this week

are you refering to that announcement in the future content blog lava made daln???

[opaque sun]

2 sets of what for DK

[drifting swan]

Con obols

[sacred verge]

yeas, so he did make a post

[drifting swan]

Oh wait nvm they're active so 1 set

[opaque sun]

Con obol is active obol so not much reason to have 2

[willow drum]

1 set and snap shot con obol onto 2nd dk

[opaque sun]

Can make a family set of con obols tho

[willow drum]

gross

[versed cypress]

yeah he made the post yesterday so im going to guess that update will be thursday friday based on when lava normaly tries to update but depending on the mobile updates it might come on the weekend

[drifting swan]

So is it 1 set for W1/W2 skills or all skills?

[sacred verge]

did he delete it? cant see it now

[versed cypress]

no its stil there

[opaque sun]

One set of each skills is fine as they are mainly just used for sampling

[sick sentinel]

#💖future-content-blog message

[drifting swan]

Oh so only W1 & 2 skills then

[opaque sun]

And one set of trap/worship too as they can be made easily

[sacred verge]

nvm i found it, im just blind... lol

[drifting swan]

Cool was just about to ask that

Main stat sets just not worth over DR?

[opaque sun]

Not like efficiency affects worship and trapping as much, but its easy to make anyway so what you got to lose

[drifting swan]

Yea and BM & 1 ES always in lab anyway

[opaque sun]

main stat obol issue is that since you reroll the stat, not misc, they cost heck a lot more frags to max

And like for all those trouble of using frags, you are just getting meme damage that allows you to one-shot mobs that you are already one-shotting

[drifting swan]

Makes sense. Is a Multikill set worth keeping for Vman runs?

[opaque sun]

Mk obol will help you get your vman kill 500k mobs per punch to now do 500k and 2 kills per punch

[drifting swan]

Okay so 7 skill sets, 1 MK, 4 DR

[opaque sun]

In surprised that convinced you to make mk

[drifting swan]

I'll just do it slowly and leave in storage, as a nice to have

Was just trying to rule out what to keep/break down

[opaque sun]

honestly a damage obol will be more influential in speed run

[drifting swan]

Blimey the 1 use they have haha

[opaque sun]

A damage/stat obol may get you a new damage tier to add like 20000% mk, while mk obol adds like 5% mk

[tacit tulip]

I'm currently farming sandpots for more frags lol 😄

[drifting swan]

Oh so may actually be better to have LUK/Damage set over MK

Theres enough room to store 3 spare sets right? I can just work on all 3

[opaque sun]

For speed run specifically, you get so much mk from void radius, a flat mk from obol doesnt even increase your kill count by 0.1% in relativr

[drifting swan]

Oh okay, really low priority then

[opaque sun]

Just be warned that stat obols needs to be rerolled in their highest form to get max stat rolls, and unlike misc that only has a range of 1, it costs heck a lot of frags to get good stats

[drifting swan]

Yea I'm gonna work on skilling and DR sets first then see where I'm at I think

[opaque sun]

So like having a full platinum luck circle obols costs maybe like 100k frags or so

[hybrid spindle]

what's the easiest way to bridge the gap between green million bits to billion, so I can unlock the slug?

[opaque sun]

And all that effort gets obsolete when you get a hyper stat obol from limited time shop

[drifting swan]

Lots of pain and suffering tbh.

[hybrid spindle]

that's reassuring

[opaque sun]

save like 50 puppies to raise karma for a good nugget roll

[hybrid spindle]

when you get...meaning they're worth buying?

[drifting swan]

Are they the 3% All stat ones?

[opaque sun]

hyper obols are usually worth it unless bad rng of pulling damage hyper ones

[drifting swan]

That's me, I have 4.

[opaque sun]

And even the damage hyper obol can be used for vman speed run specifically

[hybrid spindle]

is farming "infinite" gems via the w3 boss/colo actually a thing?

[drifting swan]

Ye, idk the DR req though

[opaque sun]

People just infinite farm normal kruks too

[hybrid spindle]

so i assume you do colo with DN, then the boss with voidwalker?

[opaque sun]

Like you get lot of kruk keys from wurms

[drifting swan]

Ty for the advice Top, gives me something to work on for a bit.

[hybrid spindle]

so gem farming it is...i have like 600 colo tickets and 3k keys

[opaque sun]

If lazy you can just do boss on DK

The gem from boss comes from the merit effect so its not a drop

[hybrid spindle]

ohhh, so it would only affect the rare drops

still, I don't have the obols, so I'd probably stick to void

[rapid locust]

Does the minor bonus you get from gods spends on your div level?

[opaque sun]

like if you need the cards or so you can do on vman

But else if just for gem id just do on DK which would have high enough dr for being set up for colo

[opaque sun]

Yes it scales on your div level

[hybrid spindle]

well...I'm only at 10 DR. I'm not sure that's sufficient. The problem is that lava has changed stuff like that in the past. I saved dottja eyes for example and then lava removed the DR effect on gem drops -.-

So waiting might just hurt me instead

[autumn wasp]

do you have a fully family page and personal for DR?

[hybrid spindle]

yes

[opaque sun]

Unless otherwise family should be mainly dr (swap sparkle to afk by preference)

And unless sampling, the active guy should be on dr personal

Other afk guys on dr is optional

[hybrid spindle]

okay, so assuming I'll start gem farming now. What's a priority to get in the limited time shop?

[drifting swan]

hyper>trophy>beanie i'd imagine

[crystal ginkgo]

Is there a way for these to drop if I've leveled up the weapon drop "talent" for dungeons?

[opaque sun]

I assume you already got the red balloons

beanie is just a slab item so very low in priority

[autumn wasp]

im yoloing cape but thats just me

[muted slate]

wings are great if you pull golden rose or something you dont have

[opaque sun]

The cape cough doesnt finalize unless you exit the gem shop cough would be a shame if your pc shutsdown somehow when you pull a non desired cape

[autumn wasp]

i guess its time

[knotty urchin]

should I stay on mantra w all my charas or swith to vitalic? I only have first 3 gods

[autumn wasp]

mantra gives highest exp

[opaque sun]

If divinity only was determined by exp, full mantra is ideal. But issue is that in practice divinity is more than just exp and having god unlocks new multipliers

[knotty urchin]

yeah so im not sure what to do

[opaque sun]

So what seems best on paper (mantra) isnt that great in practice compared to like using a style that generates offering pts

[knotty urchin]

okay thank you

[hybrid spindle]

I did not expect that answer at all 👀

[oak rose]

I think you get credit for all lower weapons when you play dungeon

[teal lynx]

You should have told me that last week
Got a second red rose

[opaque sun]

what you mean tell? i just have a bad cough to sounds like something meaningful

[hybrid spindle]

btw, what are the best wings rn?

[teal lynx]

You should have coughed earlier

[opaque sun]

Yellow rose

[molten flax]

is there a way to turn off the animation when applying crates lol its laggy af

[opaque sun]

dr magma is also good to have at least one

[tropic sedge]

chips as well?

[tacit tulip]

Fraid not

[hybrid spindle]

how abou the shipping things?

the eldritch ones

[teal lynx]

I exit the Post Office after hitting the apply button 5-10 times. So it doesn't lag that bad

[opaque sun]

Stuff that you can tell from bottom of the right hand screen of gem shop pretty much helps you to tell when its time to stop playing and turn off pc

Stuff like hyper obol you have to use from inventory sadly doesnt act as a queue when to go to bed

[dense eagle]

guys anyone knows if its posible to max the copper/iron bar vital?