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whats the hard cap?
120%
โJust a 10%โ is more than you might think as it buffs 3 mechanics that affects alch progress
The alch exp part is whatever tho
yeah ill just wait for it to get better overtime
RIP hourly clicks for it
not enough
66m * 6x * printer bonus should get you to 1b
even then itโs good enough as most clicks comes from omni procs and printer brr
but i dont have omni procs on anyone rn i havent properly setup for one
artifact, and dk orb
Resample
i just did resampled so nah for now
ill resample ores this week for gold ore hourly clicks
After few days of artifactโs printer bonus stacking up, it should be fine
what artifacts effect print gains
can u unlock td4 131?
this the only 1?
Should I take 20k of Skill and Pow staues and make then onyx and save the rest for later, or not make them onyx at all until I get everything els onyx first?
okok
To onyx a statue, you drop a stack on the ground which gets eaten. Not deposit
It gave me an hour of away time each I gave away for every character
that normal? lol
Probably just regained the lost hours (desync) from ES lag and stuff
what printer bonus?
ah yeah, I did have my ES play during the night
This
ah this 2
i should consider leveling this talent on DK but idk id this is not too fast for it XD
Finally! An upgrade!
๐ thanks
Any1?^^
does purple tube stack if i have 2 bubos
ok the stopwatch ( the silver one) is they a best "Time" to use it ?
silver one is just to adjust your daily reset time
so there isnt really a good time unless you want to adjust it
ahh ok ๐
for gold watch, probably best to keep until season events and/or after resampling to catch up the artifact bonus
Theyโre both slab eligible too
silverwatch worked backwards for me, I think?
Is this bugged?
I wanted to get my reset time to like midnight my time, had them on the left side which said it would decrease, wound up just increasing my time
Yea its or 20 min back or 20 min forword
15, but the description made it seem like having it on the left side would lead to the daily reset getting closer to midnight local time, I wound up having to have them on the right side of my inventory to actually achieve that
Am I the only one that understood what Lava meant with the description of the Silver watch?
Noone thought of it like an actual watch?
Silver is for adjusting reset time, not for daily reset bonuses
Silver is just more expensive daily reset compared to gold
Yes, I wanted my reset time to be at midnight, which is why I got silver
is there a cap on the cap/rate upgrades for each type of water? like 150 or something ?
probably not, I'm really dumb
Nah I saw several people complaining about the describtion. And I am not blaming anyone of you, I totally see where you are coming from
Rewind back time means adds to timer, forward means subtract the timer
But I instantly thought of a normal watch. Arrow right = time moves forward, Arrow left = Time moves Backwards (Not sure what you call those Arrows in English)
anyone know if there is a cap on how high u can level these 2?
Lava could have made it more clear saying add/subtract to the timer
I don't think they have a Cap
ty
Atleast noone achieved them till now
Likely 2.1b levels on mobile
Okay that makes a lot of sense, I uh, didn't think about analog clocks, and again, very dumb
If you want to move your timer forwards a little you can always accumulate some desync with an Active ES. And instead of Cloudsaving you just go into the Companions Area
And considering es desync being a thing, silver stopwatch kind of pointless
The time is good now, the silver watches just really tripped me up when using them. I'm not advanced enough to really know much about desync/resync
Literally asked earlier if pet eggs somehow were giving gaming time because I hadn't played actively long enough to experience getting time from resyncing
Save a few trophies for eventual dr book rotation, then after you get a decent book, all trophies goes to gold watch
My time went from 8 am to 10 pm over the time I played. Not sure if it's 14 hours or 38 hours desync by now :P
theres a drop rate book in the rewards? ๐
yes, people are waiting for that
well shit i already spend like 90 on gold watches
๐ ๐ ๐
and we know that gold stopwatch comes into rotation frequent enough
i was stacking them for w6 update ๐
are golden stopwatches worthwhile? I'm honestly not sure what they do for me in terms of progression
w6 daily resets if there are any
also helps with snail upgrades ๐
yes they are the main content of weekly battles
Gilded Stamp and Hydrogen discount
Boron clicks
Island bottles, trash island and crystal island
Snail mail
Shop, post office and key/colo reset
NBLB
Dr Defacus and Boops
Spice claims
Sailing captains
Random Event
Daily guild tasks
Retry w2 boss battle
Picnic stowaway
+1 day to minibosses
+1 day to gold relic artifact
Spike trap minigame
Auto trap collect (if traps are ready)
Guaranteed crystal spawns
And possible another free day for season events 50/50 farming
does it affect spice claims as in spices accumulate or you just get a fresh start on hundred times a day
it triggers day reset, not add time
it resets the number of times you can click spice claims, but doesnt add hours
Okay, I think for where I'm at it isn't useful to me; I'm not making enough atoms to benefit from more boron, same applies to most things honestly, just for where I'm at
NBLB makes me want it but that'd be the main thing other than trying to get Defacus cards
Technically you can force a week reset by using 672 silverwatches. Which is something a 7 gold watches cant do
Not like its worth using 672 silver over the gold watches you could have gotten
yeah, silver watches mainly seemed like a convenience thing for me. I get to fix my daily reset to something more in line with my schedule/time zone
Not necessary at all, just convenience
not sure why anyone cares about timer its not like theres tasks you must do on reset
they can all wait till ur next online ๐
I tend to log in for an hour a day. I like knowing my timer resets at midnight. Like I said, there's nothing necessary at all about it, just something I kinda like just like the ui options other people may like
well having the reset timer near your daily routine has some benefit
Like else say you can only get 6 tries of weekly battles per week if reset happens on an inconvenient time
If I have a busy day then having a reset of like 4 a.m. may not be great. If I know it resets at like 10 p.m. every night I can do a quick log on before bed and take care of everything. It's not necessary at all for progression but it's a nice QoL thing
Not game breaking, but helps to get one extra thing per week
can I afk already when I'm not at a "kill X monsters while afk" and I just log in on that char when I reach another such stage? Or will all my afk gains not count towards it then?
is this for rift?
For rift? Yeah you can
You can leave character A afk in rift like 2 mo. ago, then claim when you get the afk task
would vman be best to farm Mini bosses and bosses for gems? bc the double loot skill or ES or DK.
gems comes from effect of merit so doesnt matter
But for other drops, DK is kind of good for the orb kill bonus on mini bosses
For world boss, vman is marginally better for double dr talent but overall not much difference
Thanks! Was just gonna start farming these for gems
Back when drop rate was like 3x-4x, mmanโs dr talent had more weight. But now its just marginal difference
Use your boss keys, theres like around 2k gems worth of keys and other juicy stuff
I mean only for the w1-3, theres so many more
what does this mean? "Retry w2 boss battle"
weekly battles
ah makes sense thanks
If there is a miracle rotation where one can manage to make 30 misc trophy pick-ups, its potential infinite gold watches
sounds like a sailing bug reset all over again to me..
The actions and item rotation is probably predermined by some rng seed that lava implemented (like with other rotations) its a possibility
Unless he has that item shop โsecure server sideโ there really isnโt any easy way for him to check
Sailing reset was done because it was raw coded โif you have 3Q+ gold, you got resetโ
30 trophies might be difficult, but like say even a 15 trophies is a possibility of a semi-infinite trade
Maybe if you had like 5000 day progress lava might reset you 
But how would he check that
What's the weekly boss fight combination of this week?
Total day progress or the equivalent might be counted
Iโm not aware of any variable/tracker that counts number of resets(actually one)
Only thing would be rift stamp discount
Like nblb bubble progress maybe
Madlad doing discord on light mode
I was just typing the same thing
Even then, would be hard to separate the normal people from endgamers. Only thing I can see is if someone is at all 999+ bubbles
madlad is an understatement
500 levels in the bit bubble or something, who knows what lava might use
Hi
And resets all bubbles to lv1 just to be sure
How are people able to put so much time into construction
It's such a pain to manage.
Just got my first ancient artifact
when lava resets ban gold watches, the reset is going to be so hard not even gold incident will be comparable
Sailing getting reset is meh, alch getting reset is game ending
Hope my account looks better https://sergi0.idleonefficiency.com
Impossible to recover
Why is my base damage for my active DK about 1/3d less at W5 compared to town W1?
Accuracy is full
You have bad accuracy
Resets gems to 0, bubbles to 1, snails to lv1, removes all candies, stamps to lv1 etcโฆ
Accuracy needs to be 1.5x to get the bonus damage
Might as well delete the account
Welp... Why is that exactly?
Imagine lava invents alchemy bubble rebirth and ascention
If it offers boosts thats worth it, its not a bad idea. Especially if it can get big game hunter effect to 100%
Thatโs gonna happen anyways for the next doot level pet, all bubbles gonna give 2x listed effect
(Including multi-skill chance, will now be 600%) 
infinite candies and start of ActiveOn gameplay of little brothers using candies 24/7
please no rebirth/ascensions
Whats yalls ES attack bars look like
unless bubo, doesnt matter too much
Thats a relief
The order matter big for bubo because of his tenteyecle that can insta cooldown talents before going through all to make a cycle
Other classes coolsdown naturally so it doesnt matter much unless you insert mage teleportation in high priority
Shiny lvl up can speed up with multiple slime?
ooh and my first ever 110 cog too
Is there a formula for avg cog level
Are cogs based on con level
yeah
If so all levels or highest ?
highest character
Aight thanks
This post just gave me cancer
Also whats the best strat to farn lucky lads
And tremors i guess
if you can aye
Ye
you'll get several a day, depending on your DR
I'm not actually stocking up despitelava advising it, won't be hard for me to get more
Same I think itll be a stamp or somethign and we could gilded it
yeah and if it's a stamp, max 80 at a time, so it'll be relying heavily on the 90/95% reductions at top end anyway
id like to candy my 125 maestro up to 150. should i just be looking to do this at the highest w4 stage? anything else to consider?
highest mob that mman can kill yeah. Or just spend few hours active on him
crystal farming nets much more exp which should get you to 150 easily
only getting 195m an hour on him, thats like 1 lvl every 3 hours on mister brightsides
can someone help me on what to use that for, kinda clueless on what to work on
https://electroberti.idleonefficiency.com
i finished crystal island today :\
like are you killing the crystals in one hit?
not in w5, lol. hes a noodle
Breeding
better do a lower mob
ye i know breeding
only have 672k damage. my ES is doing like 7mil damage
Wanna aim for highest mob you can still 1 shot crystals
i can try crystals in w4
trying to 50 punch a crystal is much less exp than a mob you can one hit kill
I typically didn't unlock pets except with gold+ eggs so what I'd do with my eggs from colo is spam them for either an ok fighting/gathering pet and importantly, thje DNA to buy more upgrades
so spam shiny pet?
yup, probably the best one for your damage
๐
oine day these 4 slots will be directional exp...one day
2123 maybe
Get more meals
well I finally got one - couldn't have rolled much worse though...
hippo totem not giving stats for me?
leave the map to refresh it
thx
is there a point in leveling multi chance bubbles when you already hit 300%?
only to get it off the daily nblb proc
And its only worth it if you can raise it with materials. Not worth using atoms just to get it off nblb
Molto loggo that uses iron bars also not worth using materials to get it off nblb
am i trippin or is the w5 lava skull achievement bugged
it is but in a good way
Its been like that for playersโs benefit
oh ok
it was made before eclipse skulls - the check is 130% rather than all lava
It seems like oversight of counting all kills in w5 than each skulls
Basically what sakori said with looking at the deathnote bonus total
the same probably happens with the earlier skull achievmeents too, but because the point jumps on the lower skulls are so low, most people never trigger the conditions
any rules of thumb on when to go back to chowing? fully chowed w1-3, 230 ladles per day, but meals now about 1 day to level, is it time to start w4?
when you got enough candies to do it
Like shouldnt have to sacrifice irl afk hours from ladles to chow
Only exception is w5 where you cant use candies. If you can get at least 5m/hr kills on gmush, and can get multikill on the mobs in w5, i guess you can chow w5 too
what are the blank 0s btw?
also i know i chowed the eye, is that a specific eye location for the one with 999?

999 eye is just placeholder of chizโs spike balls that you cant chow, but appears due to how the data is made
ah gotcha, are the 0s just placeholders too?
some are i think like the solo acorn at acorn td and such. But else yeah placeholder data
gotcha, thanks
Acorn at acorn td, brown poops at Dr Def, invisible gmush at doots counts as chow
And also rift
Chows are counted by map, not by the race of the mob technically
is gmush at doot only able to be done over long time span or do you candy doot map?
How do I suddenly have access to this area in W5?, I have never taken this character into W5 yet
if voidwalker they are linked to furthest characvter prog due to how they reset with each run
Can only be done active
thanks
Ah ty
But my ES is in the next area?
When doing a new run, all portals resets for vman
Then at the end of the run, reapplies 2m kills on vman
So if you quit a speed run midway by like visiting a dungeon and removing buff, it used to bug out and leave with a vman with no portals open after the speed run
But do i need to report it as bug or no?
nah it's intended
It says in the patch notes of how the vman portal works
ah ok ty
But honestly lava needs to add that in the in-game hints as we cant keep directing new guys to an old patch note
And new w6 rushers complain how they cant kill the w6 mobs with their vman even though โhe has portal open so he should he able to right?โ
Ikr
hoping kattle actually having some health might slow them down to w6
it won't
but I can hope
Kattle's health is stupid imo
It's a damage check; that's all
If my characters can do final mob in W5 i should be able to do the first one in W6 right
first couple typically
w5 does it in little difficulty spikes, the mobs don't get harder until the cheese nubs
Unless lava sees this world rush an issue and makes a big jump with w6 mob hp to remind players to work on previous upgrades
Main problem for new-world rusher tends to be accuracy, if you've been inw5 for a few months you won't have that problem
I really hope W6 is an absolute struggle to push for the majority
An Idea would be to only have access to W7 if you do all merit tasks for the boss in W6. Therefore people would be forced to look at mechanics of earlier Worlds
It'd be beneficial to everyone overall
Having like 10x HP/acc requirement of wurms will probably be enough of a reminder for new players
what maps are the most people in currently? I need to finish the Carpetiem questline
most people? Surely wurms
that's unfortunate because I'm not yet there ^^
is that the "that boomer is alright" quest?
pizza 1 just exploring would get it pretty quickly
I know I can just accumulate but writing on steam is the worst shit ever
i have to write so damn slow to not mess up the inputs
The shift key do be hard to find
?
Serve server with most crowded and just go to any town honestly
Or wait for happy hour
why the low rolls lava. whyyyy
Thats worse than a plain 0% cog as it made you waste time checking its stats 
thing is I don't have my left/right directionals placed yet
so I have to take it
but it hurts
got my first three left/right directional exp rolls today
and all of them are garbage ๐ฆ
then I roll this. I don't need this. Why do you do this lava
Why aren't exp% cogs good?
they are, but you only need a handful of right facing cogs
I already have better - but still have trash left/right line cogs
so it hurts that I get them
All my dudes are level 60+ in construction. Does that mean I start transitioning out of exp cogs?
All of my cogs are exp cogs though
that's fine
the max roll of exp cogs is based on your construction level, so you can make more
You want all exp in this format forever
Lava made cogstruction just exp
What if I don't have a yin/yang cog?
Those things cost an arm. And a leg.
then just more exp cogs in those slots
work towards it with free gems eventually i think but use any for now
Meh I always burn my gems on limited specials
what I'm fishing for are directional exp cogs, those that give an extra exp boost but in a specific direction - they're much much rarer than the normal exp cogs
Well most of them at least
The ones that influence 10+ cogs,essentially?
for a very big bonus too
you're basically pointing every directional at your central 1-2 guys
which hooks were the ones you should keep? Because I have like 10 different ones in my storage an I'm pretty sure not all of them are needed for stuff
How much exp ya'll getting on vman at dreadlo?
With or without the skill eff prayer
Max exp, going for 150
95m
๐
One million I think, lazy to equip miner gear
No boost food?
dont remember
slowly getting there. Need 4 more LR and 3 more X cogs
are those exp numbers
yeah
will you run those forever, or is there some point to switch over to build rate
your average not much higher than mine to say you have level 500 to my 317
lol
I go through large lazy sprees with construction
my highest cogs were 8x% until today, pulled some 11x% ones
with snapshotting i might get lazy too, cant be opening it on wrong characters to claim cogs
I'd say in total I've spent about 20 hours clicking cogs lol
and only have 4 left/right cogs to show for it
lava strikes again
anyone bored enough to say Hi in front of the snake jar?
500 trap box and its onyxed ๐
trap st atue*
there you go onyx statue officially done
Yes. It used to one shot me so a free teleport home
perfect, which server are you at?
Wait me need to come?
Ok one sec
Carrot 4 btw
You there?
Crystal or Fractal as the 5th island?
crystal, as more candies to fuel fractal
While early fractal doesnt offer anything daily/weekly
Gz. It's taking me ages on my ES.
does the 3 cans in a row quest reset the progress if i caught 3 but didn't turn it in? Or can i do this while not paying attention?
yes
it needs attention
if I recall correclty
same with odd damage
Actually, survey says: you can lazy this one
but odd damage no, there is a trick for it at least
need to raise the depth for cans, but will happen eventually
lets goooo, just got berri bush and evergreen basically back to back off 1%s
after being stuck on blossom forever
yay I won at cog clicker
do loomy's room keys not get affected by DR? Because I already got a dozen ghosts and not a single key
the keys are much rarer, 5x
a while back, it was put into place due to unlucky rolls for unlocking the ephauint fight
the recipes cost 5x more now, but 5x more drop
can you afk-farm the keys still?
when do i unlock the gaming minigame
beta tester chat leak ๐
Was gonna type in gen chat since there was a bit about that
Btw what bubbles do I focus apart from stat bubbles and quick slap
I dont get any of these ๐คฃ
Thats my focus moving bubble to % breakpoints
Larry to like 1100 for the +110% is pretty essential long term
then I did most important bubbles to 90% effectiveness
now I'm just starting on bob
I want my iron copper, bleach oak and jungle prints to supoprt hourly then ill go whole hog on laary
Can you send me the link to this spreadsheet?
Also is going past 150 carpenter worht it
Let NBLB do it imo
Wait I asked the questipn wrong
I mean for damage
Especially mages and vman
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pJziuURXUgAUDxfdwmZcGI9muRGhcJevnmW0f1L-oIQ/edit?usp=sharing
Bubbles 2.9
TARGET GAIN %,94
POWER,QUICC,HIGH-IQ,KAZAM
.,level req,bonus,.,level req,bonus,.,level req,bonus,.
W1,linear,+1/Level,linear,+1/Level,linear,+1/Level
784,2.88x,784,2.88x,784,2.88x
1567,+47.001%,linear,2%/Level,1567,+47.001%
linear,+1.5%/Level,1567,+18.8%,linear,+1.5%/Level
1254,+94....
Thank you. Been looking for this one for while
quick slap is kinda a brute force to ganing damage as it's a quadratic formula
the rest is just the usual % sources of damage
Yea but my base is so bad that
I got 940 quick slap and it barely affects
I get more dmg from bubble 1
My move speed is 640 is that low
It's not fast but it's not "new player" either
95% of your speed comes from 4-5 speed pots and the food effect statue anyway
There is a 5th speed pot ?
it's event so I don't tend to use it
Ah the cake ?
ye
I am running 4 pots %all stat and 1 str pot
I started the statue farm after onyx statues came out and hit 900% on my dk now
so you've got some easier gains to get there
Damn
I am still griding w3 statues
Is it worth to upgrade magma armor or no
it's worth putting the time in (+ snakeskin to 100%) so you can do the crit dmg statues
its at 94% atm, i dont have the candies to get everyone 100k drops
I have speedrun prints working on more 13 vials though so i think it might all line up
MOAR FUCKIN SHEEP PLEASE
Do i buy this i have low lab lvls
not worth imo
Its tempting at the start when you have no width but theres better, hold out
Like i use the goat div god when im in lab
doesnt change its worth or not, in a couple of weeks youll be able to reach more in lab and from there itll go really quick
just put them in lab overnight and for daily reset if youre impatient and have things you want to do with your chars
I only need the 2 lest links and then to get the gems
the last gem increases your reach a ton so youll be able to reach gems from there
debating on keeping this here just to keep my life a bit spicy
Only in few days ill get there but good to know
Keep it 99 until you dont get it then upgrade it to 100
lol
only 2 more upgrades until that sweet, sweet chance at 3 mail a day
gdi
i know
for the meme
I got another sheepie today hooray ๐ฅณ
same, we should start a club or something it's ridiculous
MOAR GRINDTIME!
mmm, cant wait to jump back on bubo when these onyx stats are done
Making Lava Proud, do I get anything for this? 
https://i.imgur.com/b3sByeu.png
Let's make a farm a sheep farm 
Nice
my first red eggy, what pet should I use it on 
burgor
Does mantra only give xp to other characters if you claim over 1h of afk time? I claimed 40 minutes and my other characters got nothing
!mantra
Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.
In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.
(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)
Also, Mantra kinda sucks unless you got your core gods*. Do you have goat god already?
Just use mindfull 
Yeah everyones in lab getting div xp too
Despite most guide says to use mantra, yes its 10x exp as a family, but in practice unlocking new gods at early stages is actually more important so full mantra isnt that good
i have gotten every single one of my characters above 100 divinity using just the passive div exp stance since i got it
matra is more for end game to adjust the div levels around
I say use Focus stance all the way to at least Goat, maybe even Omni/Tiger.
(coming from someone who used mantra and regreted it)
wait until there is a pet that gives divinity points for tranquility instead of just XP
What exactly is minimum travel time in sailing?
mindful outside of lab/altar will be nice, but that companion would be like sheepie tier at best
Initially 2h. but it gets shorter with some unlocks like shiny pets etc.
See IE to check your min
the minimum amounf of time it takes to travel
Default, sailing takes 2 hrs to comeback with treasure chest
is there a button on the keyboard to use an item in the inventory?
minimum sailing buff makes that 2hr shorter
Doesn't matter if I have faster boats then, it'd still take 2h minimum until I use SB or any other buff to reduce that

slowly getting there
If you dont have any minimum sailing time buffs, you only need 1/2 of speed of the distance to the island
So if an island distance says 100m, a ship with 50m speed can travel and come back from that island in 2hrs
if i click gaming snail before it has mail for me do i lose it / reset the timer?
But if you like say have some minimum sailing time buff, and ship like say have 80m speed, it can return back in like 1hr and 40 min for example
Actually, technically maybe yes now with the golden stopwatch
So if I don't have minimum sailing time buff, even if I have 80m speed, it'll still take 2h, right?
Use gold stopwatch
Theoretically yes. But its hard to not have any SB family bonus
Cheers mate!
you will have to specifically aim to avoid having any sources of min. sailing time
end game, ship alone can get to like 50-60m so speed captain becomes redundant
I just tested it myself, mantra doesn't give other characters any div xp for less than 1h claims, I claimed 20 minutes several times and nothing, it didnt get added to their xp bars at all, I claimed 1 hour on another char, and it gave everyone else the shown amount
Yes mantra shared exp part works on full hrs
Good to know
Which also adds on to โits not that useful then on paperโ
Also the shared exp doesnt get doubled from double exp procs, and โuse mantra!!!โ Guide neglects the blessing buffs from unlocking gods
just looking at the exp growth table, its best. But sadly divinity has more factors involved
Just remember:
Divinity is about unlocking gods, not xp. XP does nothing for you. By the time you would even get to Div lvl 60 focusing on xp (for the higher pts) you'd waste so much time in not having the core gods. compared to just sticking to Focus.
Crystal imo
I feel Fractal is pretty useless
got nice thropy, which you will prop never see cuz the odds are so stupid
so crystaรถ
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Yup, my total afk time is barely around 50k hours. actually doing stuff.
Going for a 1/100k doing nothing is just a joke imo
by the time you get trophy, its likely there will be other trophies to powercreep
for rift 36 what kind of damage are you guys at when you completed it?
don't tell me snail is the only answer for last plant mutation?
Has anyone here beaten nightmare kattlekruk with their vman?
many
What DPS do most people have, I cam
can't out damage the odd mole that gets through
30-40b+ See Pins More dmg just speeds up the fight
you need to keep moving left and right to kill the moles if your vman has low dmg
here is one of many vids - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoN8HvgJYA0
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Pins has guide/vid

Wtf??
lmao, can you send your idleonefficiency
Won't really help you much xD
Its also old
Just the usual, higher alchemy, stamps, eclipse, higher book lvls
does drop rate effect sample rates on skills?
sample treats dr as 1x
ah
having trouble figuring out what obols to fill all my chars with
i have construction on my DK
DR on my ES
money on bubo
luk on vman
Probably should do dr on bubo, dr on vman
Skill obol mules
No
oh
Stat obols costs heck lot of fragments to max
You can only get from alch shop
close enough
oooh dammmm whatttt i been playing ofr years and didnt know
The Genos to my saitama 

Literal mind blown
Lucked out tbh, since you don't need to make sparkles anymore
Other than slab
whys this?
you also dont need to make hex
Kkruk obol is better
As boss obols does better
Slushies better
And trapping and worship that doesnt benefit from afk kattle obol, its easy to make anyway since enemy drops them
They also don't help much so ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Doent do much, but like might as well keep a set
theoretical best is bubo
But DK is comparable and gets also more kattle keys and decent gold foods and statues, so id say DK at wurms are best value
it it worth getting all the gemshop cogs?
Did lava stop golden watches from giving bubble levels?
eventually, but lower priority due to the high cost of getting those cogs
Having 4 is nice, and then ^
When blue gems become easily farmable, and bought most other more potent upgrades, then get the last 4
They're marginally better than high exp cogs, but not significantly
And you don't lose a lot of BR
i guess i got more or less every important uppgrade
Though honestly they may lose out later depending on scaling of their exp bonus
in gemshop
nag enough and lava will buff the scaling of those cogs, again
im trying to get get the lvl 13 vials for the snake, and its taking forever
so maybe i should try some bar smelting
?
like i been active ES at bullfrogs for almost a week now lol
any tips on easiest ways? need 27 max vials so the snake vial gives the 2x statues
holding onto millions of statues right now lol
sample with vman
kk let me gtive that a try because last time i tried that with the vman portal thing my samples were weak af lol
but that was a while ago too
ty
You gotta kill the first 2 bosses on nightmare atleast to get more respawn. And then make sure you use his ability before sampling
dont forget to sample while aoe vman attack is active that boosts mk like crazy
afk smelting counts mk, but limited by forge cap.
active smelting isnt really capped by forge cap, but much much slow as it only counts base kills
Pretty sure Nighmare is the same as Normal boss for Respawn rate
I heard that Nightmare counted more. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
respawn counts once for any difficulty
portal gives more for doing nightmare, but for respawn (sampling run) normal is good enough
Ty for confirming, i was suddenly like "have i been doing it wrong this whole time?!" xD
whats lvl GT do u guys have?
how manny % does that give ? o-o
oh relly XD
damn
still need to get it done :/
how do you get the water regen so high?
bubo aktiv for 10 years XD
Plus Stamp and stuff

mine is at 106 and i only get 22 pr hour, lol
3rd water now at 70 ๐
You drop your crown king
Its also worth mentioning that the lab node is off so that adds a lot of regen
1 CC gives me around 420k Sec, 116 hours
i think its a bit lower for me, maybe 350k
Still need a screenshot of the 420k, usually always catch it at 418k or 422-423k xD
Getting closer to my daily +2 gems 
That cap xD
Gotta get it to 15.2k
i dont get how u guys get this shit so high, lol
Months of bubo
Yeah if I never had to play bubo again I'd be okay with that
yeah i bet, lol
But the bubbles demand a sacrifice
true
good money too ๐
DK is good money aswell ๐
but i need water
think this will be it for now
yeah 4k was not bad tbh
Yeah even 15k isnt too bad. I was still getting over 1k levels a day
Closer to 20k though it starts getting kinda painful
im just wating for my bubo to be done in catching ( need to be lvl 100) and then i start farming the exp one.. but for now my sb is farming "kills" til bubo is ready XD
That's why I stoppes at 19700
I'm going until 100x exp multi
ez XD
True, but the sooner u get it the better tbh. long term benefits.
I already got lvl 550 DK, 524 bubo atm, so switched over to get bubo up a bit
yeah
After I'm done with GT it's gonna be 550 DK and SB
im not as endgame as u boys tho
Bubo is already 553 just leveling this damn bubble
halfway there
Hmm what is 100x bonus 30k?
Should only be like 25k or so
That's not bad
when i finish my next vial i will finally be at 100% statues 
I need new vials to farm
I just need to farm statues tbh
same
I've done almost nothing but bubo and SB for the past few weeks
Yeah plunder and levels for 5k family
ahh
Been at beans for like 2 or so weeks now
i really should be getting my 100k plunder
why stop at 100k if you can get 200k ๐
Once 120 gold food stamp I'll switch to plunders
I'm at like 240k plunder. Not sure how far I'm taking it
I'm mostly just leveling SB at this point and getting the kills in the process
To the moon
well 330k is 50% of the 1 mill bonus
to the achievement of course
Thats a long time 
25% there is still another like 30 days lol
Not really
Question:
What should I atom? ๐ค
numbers written are based on 90% effy that i have not reached on those specific ones. Dmg doesnt really do much for me, neither does Skilling tbh.
I was thinking maybe more con xp?
https://i.imgur.com/9VkAsXl.png
When compared to the scientific prediction for the heat death of the universe
You mean w6 release?
1m plunder kills
I menat w6 is never coming
It will come
What iffff equinox is a w6 thing? ๐
then it aint coming lmao
(highly doubt it, but we can dream)
Please tell me I'm not holding off my samples for a bonus in 3 months
Whatโs equinox
Think we're all holding off on samples and TD atm xD
why samples tho?
Fixed it for you
Yeah but I haven't sampled since june 4th
So, its right to focus con xp?
Atom con to like 8k
Oh contract alr fixed
If you have other goals you wanna work on thats fine but bob is always a good atom sink
anyone have done the vail for pearler shell? like max it out? XD
I did 2-3 days into Roadkill just to boost it a bit.
I was planning on doing con next but was also not sure if i should do a bit into call me pope (worship charge)
Mainly wondering if i missed anything else that gives "long term benefits" kinda thing
If you have 15,000,000,000,000 kills then probably yes
Assuming dr ๐
(idk why i read that as 15b first)
Then itโs a bit less tbh
but also mk
Then bump to 15,000,000,000,000,000
With max player stats and consequently dr
Maybe halved or 16thโd if activing
Probably possible within 3 years
Just reached world 5, should I immediately begin working on divinity or is there something else I should be doing?
I remember reading about 100k statues for some reason - beyond just farming ahead for Onyxes, am I missing something?
100k kapow statues maybe?
task board
each character gets 10k for completing the questline, you save all those
theres the quest for a char to collect 100k statues
You do need the quest to be active for it to count though
Which means 20k power first
guys what do you prefer royal traps on 40h or 10h?
Lower the better
I like to have it at 20 hours and treat it like a daily
but there is no 20h option for royal ?
That's true.
I did 10h for a long time and just few days back switched to 40h
Longer = less gains.
8 hr natures 10 hr royals
actually you only have to colelct traps once a day even if you have set it to 10h becuase of the vacuum thingy from rift
Less gain if you dont manually claim it a 2nd time in a day
Oh, unlock the task board first?
Just move your daily so you claim it once and your daily claims second time
active to inactive with 100% afk gains is way different to 1:1 for combat, is it also different for skilling?
40h every 2nd day you get 70x automatically from vacumme
10h you get 21x Meaning you'd have to at least do 1x manually to get 63x (so essentially forced to do it 2x manually to get more out of it
Anyone got an ss of their 3d print gains from doing vman sample during speedruns?
Ok damn. Worth.
hahahaha
not much lost
thats ouch tho^^
Still was able to get a fishing lvl + 25% to the next left lvl
Which is all that matters
Almost there already with the chopping just 3 more lvls. dreading catching though.
I just finished catching (last night), love doing the slow hard stuff first so each time it gets faster and easier ๐
Nope luckily only have 95 max lvl on catching because of how painfully underleved my alchemy is.
I should finish fishing mining and catchin all around the same time
Fishing was not too bad considering I had a lot of fishing event foods
(my goals are 125 atm)
Yeah, only doing 1 lvl at a time for catching since cant candy. So doing 2 lvls per ccd for mining and fishing
They're both in 130s catching is at 141
Whats your trapping at?
122
I feel like candies are not even worth on chopping and catching at later levels because you gain way more just farming w5 afk.
Oh I haven't candied any catching or chopping
Idk why im afk in w4 and not just candying it.... :/
https://i.imgur.com/QtP3EaP.png
(cards)
Candying catching would be so painful. It is like 80b to lvl 142
Yeah I just did all the skilling cards. Working on trapping worship cards
Need w5 critters so I can get 150 trapping 
is there a nonvideo voidwalker speedrun guide
Keep in mind that pathing is a bit situational based on dmg
yup, this is my first run ever, i imagine ill struggle through it. ty
First run is basically "irrelevant"
You're just doing it to get more skill points
Your 2nd run is what will count and do a ton better
First run just go through the worlds map by map. You don't get very far
make sure you got the skill in tab 3 first
Was there not a bug at some point that did so that the speedrun talent didn't have a cooldown?
that gives void points
speaking of vman runs, i really ought to do a sampling run, but i hate resetting my printing relic :c
so you can do a longer speedrun
?
the chess one
Not a bug per se, low cool down when testing was being done
Just didnt get put back in prod
1 point or max it
Ahh right. makes sense
max u want the talent points
book it too if you can
Just realized nothing else is specced in that tree
be sure to get your dmg talents, like tlaent 2, super important
ya i just reset
Where is the 100k statue quest?
W4 towards the end, floms
re: mobsamples, once i max out the stamp cost vials, does anything else decrease that, and if not, do people push to get stamps up to ridiculous costs per upgrade? imagine once things are in the 100m range of cost pushing much more isnt a thing, at least without all the reducers from gold stamp/90% from collider yeah?

Do I need all onyx to get it? I have completed his other quests but still need 1 or 2 onyx stacks
i hate crafting those
Then you did his quest?
i keep hoping a craft xquantity gets added before i do something like that
Had to kill my mana pot gstack though
It's the quest right after your first onyx
It's a tree!
false
idk that looks like w3
he is working on companions batch 2
a tree as companion?^^
Yay, nuggets become additive when? xD
Hmm new tree in w3 seems weird though, unless it is the equinox npc or something
one never knows ๐ณ
We got Rift in W4
We got Island Expeditions in W2
Need something repetitive in W3
And it was mentioned to have some hard ongoing task system thing ๐คท
I know I'm just saying a new skilling node in a previous world would be weird
I won the reaction game
Background, snow etc all looks like this tbh
True forgot he said there would be new vials
Just curious as to what we need lucky lads for
upgrade skilling necklace 
New vial 
this is the new vials?
Man I want new skilling gear, we deserve it
looking forward to that ring vial
wtf in boost nation is that
oh lawdy
Thats nails without milk
lol who had the time to make that image, looks really good but also much effort o.o
Alpha leaks, get em boys
Lava made it lol
new prayer aswell
I used to be in the alpha group but then I had a break for a year 
I wish i could join the alpha ๐ฆ
When there were to many ppl in there he made it so ppl had to dm him a joke to be able to stay
where is the p2win tab gone?
its on the idleon steam page, lol
๐ง
oh wow, true
Maybe we can predict patch notes with ai
Isn't even worth it to active ES for monsters mats, when you can just do huge samples on Vman? :S
got chiz blankie today. whats the best stat to drop on it
Whatever your guy uses
if you arent making the caustic one with it, you can use mystery enhancers on your dude, maybe get some free respawn
no printer go brrr procs today ๐ญ
i have my shrines in the w5 town but characters aren't affected by it, no matter where in w5 despite having the laboratory thing. Do I need to place them again or can I fix it some other way without losing the progress to the next level?
AFTER 5 MONTHS
the redemption is crazy
is the saucy sausage the last cooking meal?
for sb archlord of the pirates... does the crystal count to it to or just "normal" mobs ?
Can mystery stats get you all stats?
Okay I'm sorry but... read.
fair
Is anyone else thinking about that meme from the boondocks now?
Whatโs the key to beating world 3 dungeon boss at tier 3?
wich box cant see in in PO
Reload or just tap there, sometimes it doesn't show
restarted ty
Every electricians first question: "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Works for the human heart sometimes too
Does anyone know if fibers of absence prayer is worth it on a vman speedrun?
which hunter class is better at candying? trying to candy some smelting bars
SB
I think in general fibers of absence isn't worth it. The damage trade off doesn't usually translate to additional multikill except for very specific circumstances
Seems to focus heavily on mk and foa doesn't do that much I think, so prolly not since it can take away mk levels
10m damage gang
gotcha, appreciate it @edgy osprey @sacred monolith
how much boost i get with x2 in lab for 3d printer and x3 in divinity? x5 or x6?
So?
6
I'm stuck at max stat level 245 how do I increase it past 245
Do you mean talent level? Then things like symbols from the beyond help increase that. If you mean talent max level...tough luck
do shrines not work in w5?
Why wouldn't they?
Where do u get those symbols from beyond
because i have mine in the w5 town with the laboratory thing active but no matter which map, I don't get the bonus
Vman doesn't have that
Or Arctis (second god in div), etc
Nope
Let me show u
Do you have that sailing artifact which makes them active everywhere?
I meant I know he doesn't have it. I know that, that part is intentional. Other than that you have the family bonus of ES and Arctis... maybe something else, but I can't remember if so
I didn't know there was such a thing but that would explain the lacking difference in damage between worlds
Yeah, I forget that too
what about leveling them? Can you level them from everywhere too?
That talent isn't affected by things I mentioned, I don't think there is a bonus for 250, that's just it
Nope, only same world (I think? Could also be same map, but I think it's same world)
Oh okay so 245 is max ?
I was looking at library and atoms but it doesn't increase the max level
@vocal ibex
now I only need one that doesn't reset my progress when I move them ^^
Alright thanks
vman first run, 17 portals ok?
Errrrr I don't think that exists? I think?
Make sure you sample with vman his multi skill is great
I know that, but I'd still like that
Oh, okay... thought I'd missed some again
At this point moving them makes me probably lose months of progress
41x60% = 24 avg weapon power is that worth it or should I just go for the guaranteed 5*41 stats
๐บ
It gets better with more building speed, thus shrine levels, thus quicker leveling
but the amount at some point is negligible
even the +100 levels will only double the speed
Yeah, true
so 2 months lost is still 1 month to get it again
Golden cheese exists, if that helps
I suggest make a regular set then the second set try those to be safe and get some good bonuses
they're rare for one and that's only like 20% as well
It's cheese, you can't have enough anyways
then i simply don't know where to get that stuff from ^^
Have you tried your local supermarket?
Yes but they don't have golden cheese
But maybe cheddar! One of the best kinds of cheese
what kind of bonus do you get from cheddar?
A full stomach, great ingredient for cheese sauce, super yummy on so many things... what doesn't cheddar give you? It could probably even prevent divorces!
cheese > couples therapy
gotcha
I fully agree with this message
ok so i switch to talent tab 2 on voidwalker, i have 1 point. i need to spend it on void trial rerun to get all the points i earned?
Yes
can we unlock the 3rd talent layout finally?
Not to my knowledge