#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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how long do i have to keep it in there
idk the exact times, just make sure the fenceyard is full of your last pets with a heart at least until you unlock shiny pets
Any trick to get the last plant chemical? I just keep attempting at 0.5%. Is that more effective than waiting till 1%? It takes forever to get to 1% vs 0.5%.
can i have some help on some progression stuff? I pushed to w5 and now i dont know what to do, im so underleveled for everything. heres my ie https://qwazjex.idleonefficiency.com/
Just claim every 50-80 mutstion points. Turn the kitsune stone on.
Basically just research as often wuth as little plant claims as you can
Think it’s .1% and scales to .5%>1%
Yeah I might as well try. I’ve been trying this method for over 5+ weeks with zero luck.
Thanks!
more tries at lower % is just statistically better because of the scaling required for higher %
I forget where the cut off is. But past 98 not worth it. Have a rate of hopefully less then 20mins per cycle.
PO box just gives what 8% overall afk time to gaming. Like 80 minutes of free time a day.
Swap and use the Big bubble for gaming. Level to 10% or more.
idk how i feel about the #💖future-content-blog latest teaser. unless he releases more prayers AND another TD in w6 (which is likely for the release, still waiting on prayers for other TDs) i just have no motivation to play TD beyond getting 130 wave on all of them
whats the crystals about
currently farming w3 statues. is sheeps better than penguins, despite having higher drop rate for the box statue on penguins?
i wish we could delete a character 
theyre rift unlocks. youll gain something at that rift level
If I'm a returning player who quit shortly before w4 release and got lucky enough to get Doot, how long do I stay in lab for, I barely have any chips to use at the moment (I'm in w5 atm, but I didn't push past any stage yet)
If you've got doot, I think it's recommended to get all characters to lab lvl 40 so you can access all the different lab nodes. But first, probably just get to at least goat god(I'm not sure if this step is necessary totally, I don't know if doot links you to God's you don't have unlocked) from divinity
It does, you just need to get div lvl 2 from what i've heard
Anyone have a good card preset for placing traps on BM?
I'm blanking out and cant think of anything else atm..
https://i.imgur.com/SjNhIqi.png
May as well do c efaunt and nchiz
Dont remember anything else
missing this guy
I knew i was missing an all stat but forgot where xD
Worth using over a total damage card?
So i got this now: Fixed*
https://i.imgur.com/15szZe0.png
Haha wrong wurm
wut
U did wisdom one
Depends if u need the dmg or not for what you are doing
Crit doesnt affect multikill?
got it, might still be worth it to kill kruk with vman
Yeah good for challenges like that, dps dummy, or es rift challenge
Tho idk how it is now with kachow onyx
it still additively adds on more crit dmg %, any amount is helpful for more damage
crit damage only affects active farming, and doesnt do anything if you are one shotting them anyway. On ES farming it does a very marginal gain if it allows you to reach higher wormhole
ye, but it looks like he's trying to kill kruk on vman maybe?
so it is helpful there like circ said 🙂
it helps a bit, but issue is card slots are limited and there are other cards that are better
If it was a pure addition of not a mutual exclusive choice, its decent. but not worth for fighting a limited slot
@opaque sun Do you know if this is still the meta?
https://i.imgur.com/F1ut3Rh.png
Pretty much. Just that with current pet power the alchemic lines goes down to like coarse mountains
The more average pet power you have, you would extend the alchemic line.
Also, for that meta, what pet is the most important to have high power on?
Its like a rough measure but if the progress bar can be seen visually growing when you fresh claim all spices, that line is fine to be full alchemic + converter
focus pet power on borgers
then raise the averages of converters and alchemic
Leaves and miasma are there just to give the trait so is lowest priority to buff
Tyvm
Just realized i had never really touched any of this since forever
Was just replacing all my bunnies (on every row) because back then i didnt even have converter xD
Then realized i may not even be using meta. So time to spend 500 eggs to update it all
For the unfortunate roll of a pink pet rolling a good pet power, use that pink pet as top left side of storage for BM’s wp talent
Yup, got this little bunny
https://i.imgur.com/LcsYdJj.png
Luckily the panda can be used
feel like 9/10 times when i got a strong power pet it would be pink
Also, you always put your highest power pets on the furthest down spice? (alch already atomable)
thats pretty much a preference
Like if there is a certain kitchen you want to give more love, you put best pets there
anybody know the best spot to farm sixes obols?
And im assuming you are way past the line of using actual spices to click bubbles, it doesnt matter too much what spice to focus on
DK on tysons or sand pots in w2
Yup, just wondering based on speed vs diminishing returns if there is a clear winner like doing first kitchen vs last kitchen
any tips on farming lucky lads?
Not as efficient but alternative is to do Snelbie IF you need the cards, kinda 2 in 1. Then Pots for Shards (for stamp) although tyson is slightly better, still getting 2 things done at once is often nicer 🙂
Crystal chance cards, DR, Chips like choco chip and card doublers. (PO box etc.)
Active DK will work wonders once setup properly
Hmm ok, I got gold food to 116, keep doing beans or start on the plunders
Take it off filter
lmaooo
116?? Ayooo what
Sad part is there's people out there with 120, probably a few with 124
Though 124, is basically never leaving beans
Insane
Yeah i mean how many millions of sandwhiches
Im not even close to that stamp level so i have no idea what the number looks like even with both reductions
It's not that bad with full reduction, 116 to 120 is 227k sandwiches
But I only get like 1k/hr give or take so still like 10 days at beans
what does 20k power take you then
Not sure the skilling statues I get about 25k/hr, think power is 10k ish or something?
10k an hour 🥶 sheeeeesh
When you been too long on beans, you stop counting the per hr
i pushed my gains from 200 power an hour to 2000 and was like lets go
That's good though. We've playing awhile though so we have beefy shrines plus all the fomo items
So that's at 1 in 26 crystal and 21.x dr
I think I'm at like 1 in 50 crystal, and 12x dr, so I don't even think I wanna check how many power statues I get in an hour
Uh, is there a way to pull out any of the skilling tools in areas not associated with them?
common technique for scammers to make people like you to advertise their guild name which happens to be an url for scam websites
So they are editing the game to bait you to make a screenshot of them
This equinox system is looking pretty cool
Alright fellas, how many lads we saving up? Lemme see some speculation
The real question is what is the fastest method to gather them
Get high dr
Dk on oranges probably top 3 contender
I got like 10 of them sitting around
Idk if i shud hoard more
22dr
now i just need a location
I put them on the filter after making all 10 divine scarfs
My storage do be struggling too much to hoard them until this announcement
Give em to characters u don't use much
Good to know. Thank you for that information
how do you get these
Im just a lucky lad
How to get more captions?
captains? From the slave market at right side of town
Refreshes on your daily shop reset
Oh I didn’t see it Preciate it
Am I correct in assuming that divinity eff is not a thing and that xp from divinity does not scale very well and only increases with style xp? so xp gain will always be low?
can someone explain to me why my build rate drops when i remove the construction obols from a charaction not even in the cog area?
build obol only takes action when active
its not really applied to the character
The obol buffs the whole board when its used on your active character
My xp does not go up no matter what I do except for changing styles.
becuase it uses “div exp”. Other sources of “all skill exp” is not applied for div
So reaching lvl 50 for the multitool stamp is going to take me weeks then?
So find sources of div exp
Search every bonus in Idleon!
So since I use one dk for build rate and am active on another one, I am right that I only need one set of build rate obols but instead of having them on the not-active character, I need to use them on my active one?
Also mages’ “specialized skill exp” talent counts towards div exp
Yes, the DK doing the active farming needs to wear the obol
Build obol worn on afk guy does nothing sadly
great
not like I've been using it that way for the last....year or whenever it came out
no wonder my build rate sucked ass
And there is another issue of construction being bugged that it applies a construction exp penalty when doing active
So you want to afk the construction exp focus guy
i thought you didn't want to active the build rate guy though? because the active one isn't affected by a bubble
Ideal set up that your exp penalty fodder DK with lower construction level does the main active farming while wearing build obol. And the afk DK with higher construction just stay put for full exp
Can someone pls explain this glitch, im only w4 and this is my only character with divinity levels
you rather want it to treat as 0?
what about snapshotting obols? does it still work to snapshot build rate obols and then do whatever?
no but I wanna know why it's like that
It hear it can snapshot build obols, but since its hard to compare i dont trust those claims fully
well....build rate doesn't change as long as I don't visit the cog page....so if i snapshot it and stay clear of that, it might work
theoretically you would want to login with the build obol dk(war), check construct board, the switch to your farming guy
Like sure the visually it appears to have high numbers
or you switch the obols on the same guy
But kind of skeptical if its really progressing at that rate
then I'm screwed....i want dr on my dk :/
but I've fallen way too far behind on construction, so I actually need to get some decent build rate as well
Give your afk dk the build obols, then switch to your active DK with dr and hope its snapshotted and check board only with your afk DK
seems like the best choice
is there a list of obol bonuses you can't get +1% by rerolling them? At least I assume some can't be because I tried like 50 times and didn't get a single one
The top one can only be altered after certain tier
wut? srsly?
i thought you could never change them
let's take trapping for example. At what point can you change that bonus?
As seen at the top of the table, circle and squares are 0 chance for those “power”
Hex and sparkles got like 9% chance to hit those power stats
For hex people just use slush, so for trap and worship its pretty much just for sparkles
still, it's cheaper to reroll them as early as possible
so in a way trap and worship obol sets are very easy to make as just combine and done
so you'd still want to reroll them as hex and then turn them into sparkles
god damn it....I haven't rerolled a single obol since the first time
If just one, i would reroll at sparkle for +1 power and max roll in the respective stat
that will need so many fragments
else, just combine and save frags
Trap and worship arent that affected by efficiency anyway due to not using the typical prowess system
still, I want one set of pretty much everything
so go the easy route of just combine, or make the best possible sparkle
not like i compared but there is a possibility you dont even need sparkle trap/worship obol by instead using troll
funny thing i don't have troll or slush
so I'll probably end up farming fragments and upgrading those obols instead ^^
any case, dont spend too much on trap/worship obols. Just making the basic form without reroll is good enough
definitely. at least until I have a set done for every type
still wish i had more space. i need like 2/3 chars with skilling obols on them or I'll lack storage to maneuver
Slush is just a matter of dk farming colo 3 few times
what's its bonus?
and I guess that beats just using the skilling obols in hex?
also due to how all skill% are applied on a different pool than specified skill efficiency, it gives more bonus than specified obols
do you still have an xp obol setup or is it just not worth the space it takes for the little bit of xp?
still? never used them
Like additive to the current 50x hardly does nothing
50 👀 That's reassuring when I'm still sitting at 10
it's not possible to switch entire sets of obols at the same time is it?
any tips on getting lava skulls lol
I got 1 on BM.
can't get another on other BM >:o
Use SB
I meant SB my bad
just gotta wait then, rng
are we talkin rift or death note?
sounds like rift
rift
Just auto on sb or es
was that the upgrading one?
then it's easiest if you just do it manually
kill the one with the higest skull tier and hope you get an even higher one. took me like 5 minutes
lol ive been at it for like 45 min now
you have to make sure that there's always some mobs alive
because if you kill the last mob on screen and it had a skull, then it can't jump to the next one/tier, so you automatically reset entirely
new update when
yeah that's true. I've been trying to kill the highest skull
Wtf this lava skull thing for
just bad rng ig
Oh rift
ye lol
I'm currently waitin for another 5m afk kills but my damage is kind of running out so 31 will probably be my last one for now
finally shit took me like 2 hours
What would be the best way to get the recipe from purgatory stalkers, active ES? I’ve got ~11 DR and it’s a 1 in 2.5m chance.
what happens if i use it on a v man?
deletes account
dam
god rank 2 off a 1%
ironically it probably cost me over 100% trying to just get the 100% option
I spent a whole week farming that recipe on ES and no drop and then I switched over to afk voidman and got it in 1 day.
Yeah, I’ve had my ES afk there for ages with no luck, I’ll give the vman a bash, thanks.
I wish you luck! ^^
im hoping i get it on my bb while doing superchows but i know its likely wishful thinking
errr the magma gloves, i have everything else
I got all the magma gear recipe pretty easy just unlocking portals except for the boots.
im thinking im gonna try to get all the t2 bubbles to 90% and then maybe hocus choppus and then.... i guess quick slap atoming, kinda wanna shoot for getting the nkruk chieve done soonish and getting my ruby cards probably on the way down that path
Do these stack?
no
Pretty tough to collect then
they start dropping a ton, i have too many of them if i dont filter
soon ill clear out my box of dumb stuff
I keep all my misc. rubbish on my lab-alt
I have a feeling we’ll need even more than this
bonus storage
He’s using Lads as a bonus/craftable item so it may be worth stacking even more with DK
kina surprise i ont have nomwich greenstacke yet
Nomwiches drop in small stacks
Easy with mining
i kinda hope i get lucky and get doot before i start doing the mining spam for statue quests on my other chars, would be nice to start getting a nice pile of red pearls
Red pearls for cooking?
135/200 and no doot. Goodluck
Crazy how hard cooking is to level even with all the meal exp bonuses
its so brutal
Get XP and skill effiency up then use balloons
Why efficiency
Will help laddle gain
You dont get ladles from balloons?
No, just levels. But higher efficiency means more laddles
Levels also help effiency
Very little but still help
im just mostly hoping for lvl 50 on all chars eventually but without red pearls i think thats a pipe dream, but maybe balloons could do it. imagine still thatll be brutal
It is brutal
I've been using a mix of pearls and balloons
Going from lv49-50 is 100+ balloons it's very rough
Stamps surely?
cooking stamp isnt level restricted
Ooh exciting
If it was then my eff would have gone up in photos 
Cooking stamp probably takes 5 gorillion coins to upgrade tho
My issue is storage space 
I just farmed w4 colo and got 20k ladles and boosted my meals up that way instead of waiting for afk ladle gains.
I'd say it worked out pretty well.
Tbh BB doesn’t have anything else to do tho 
True
High dr and DK
I only get like 1900 a day
ez
But I have doot so I have no excuse
Isn't BB still the best at farming death note AFK?
People without doot get more ladles 
Endgame I think that’s ES
Because of the mana is life multi kill bonus
It’s es any day
Kill per kill is pretty trash late game
I believe
Shame
Bb is only good mid game right? Never mained it
BB is literally only good for eating ladles💀
BB needs a mob respawn skill and it would be relevant
Ehhh idk
BB was king of dungeons before DK came out
What would we use him for anyways 
Even with the respawn he doesn’t have anything that farming kills on him does yet
Still prefer es cause I was doing w2 but I folded to convenience and now wait for party dungeon Carrie’s
BB with mob respawn could be good for active portal pushing?
Should get r38 this week
Bubo
No it’s bad active
Well hopefully w6 introduces a new skill that will make BB actually matter
Bubo will always destroy any class if the mob density stays the same
The insta raise the dead is just so Op
But w7 elite subclass will most likely change that
I can’t wait to get enough stats to active bubo for money
Wait do I even want to or need to?
Bubo on wurms is pretty dank tbf
Maybe in the far future when my lab upgrades
For money or keys
I was gonna ask about the latter but I assume es out gains it
Keys is DK
Nah, because bubo you mainly use for cc and money and keys are just a bonus.
For active?
DK gets like 60-70 kruk keys an hour
ES is like 25
Bubo is like 30-40
ES needs a lot of extra dmg to make portal work
Worms too tanky
For sure
True
Well, Back to farming lucky lads.
1.5b
42B with my bubo prayers on 
And considering you use a spear over staff as well.
😂
Wurms bout to catch these hands 💀
Bruh
Got the thorny fists
Is what unwearable?
I’m half way to purple dmg
5.4T so far without atoming quick slap
Emphasis on without quick slap

ooo
The knuckles
Isn’t it also no class I don’t remember fully
Barbed fist is the last fist weapon anyone can wear
Has the most stone spots when rolled with a +1
Nice archer is good
Why not
FUCKING FINALLY !
Pure skill
ye but it has to land on shit you're actually bombarding
Nice
or just send guys to the trade deal island and use bottled wind
do you need gelatinous chests for anything after the first one? I kept some so I think there was something but I can't remember what it was
what's the gaming strat once you've unlocked chemical?
Once you use the chest, it should never drop again anyway
Is the tusk still bugged?
https://i.gyazo.com/cac7a3672167404c289d5f2493f88d40.png
whats the best play from here do we think? keep encouraging until I hit some kind of cap or just pray and send it
Dont worry, I am right there with you. I've reset from 13 to 10 6 times in a row, i refuse to encourage
can someone explain me what boron clicks are?
The atom upgrade where you can use atoms to level up bubbles instead of resources.
ah thx
Get a certain amount per day, based upon level of boron atom upgrade,max 40 and 1 other source,max 10, cant remember. Max 50 clicks per day
id say save mails until lava adds another upgrade that makes the “per mail use” a bit more efficient
Also fun fact, if you use your atom spends for the day and then upgrade the boron atom, you get all your spends for the day back
logs in mobile, 30m eff. logs in steam 20m eff any reason?
Greenstacking the afk time 😳
my daily reset happened just now. should I reset the raid and get 3 free trophy or wait for the new boss?
its on the useful side of artifacts
aight
👀 If i reset the raid now, can I kill the new raid boss as soon as it spawn?
whats the optimal lab setup without king doot,
ty
wut raid
Weekly battle
the weekly boss in w2 town
thats the whole point of reset, to fight again
wtf
I waited for a month for THIS
is dk or es better for farming rare drops like woodular circle/ice ages
its not the rarity of item, but more on who drops them. DK best for drops from crystals, ES best for drops from mobs
dk proly
ye
So for those you listed, its ES
k thanks
10 vman procs in and my bubbles are bathing in the tears of my bubo 
VOID UI!
This happens if your GPU fails in some way. Typically it's if something in it blips and causes it to restart, but I've seen it when manually updating one too
Got 400mil max damage! 🎊
gaming tier up time calculator?
probably just discovered something they were missing
Nah I just leveled up onion
Damage is now 412
Onion?
I need to get chocolate chip for crystal monster respawn 😌
Ohh!
Boringggggg never ever got one of it.
It’s coming in December
Into the rotation
still not too late to gamble at gem shop for choco
Here a cookie
Well I don't even have the recipe for that
Fighting with Vman is gonna be hell
Mine does like only 10B damage
once you have the damage it's not too bad
But I don't...
time to get more then 😄
How much damage do you need with Vman anyway?
anything 30b+ is recommended
I did mine at 50
10 is doable but it'll take like an hour, not worth the time imo
200b ish for auto and forget fight
Oof by the time I'll get there
is the w/e?
Good
Honestly at this point I only pick artifact chance
yeah might be right
Loot also means important when lava adds few more loot multipliers and it becomes common to get 1Bs of treasure regularly for bubble clicks
After getting the Tablet and Tooth I went to Fury
if i have doot, does it matter what god i link to
I prefer go after the more important thing
Purrmep’s minor link for some reason needs an actual link
Besides that, you can go badgur/kattle if you want for visual/meme
Im really starting to feel, how far behind I am without a doot. I keep thinking of how much more I would have with it xD and how much easier some stuff would be
Yeah, so it gets Even better later
watch badgur be like “doubles big game hunter bubble effect”
"Double doot bonuses if owned, if not take an L"
this look like a good card set for a vman just sitting in wurms leveling active atm?
only thing i can think of to replace would be the DR card for maybe a money card?
At what level does void salt not be so damn trash
i never think about void salt as i don't use it much anymore, but mine is rank 7
i followed infinite salt production guide though
aside from red and green salts
those level endlessly
Crystal card not doubled?
they are currently doubling active exp cards
Spare salt 🤲🏾🤲🏾
If I'm farming gmush for 12 mill kills, which cards should I be using? Still crystal stuff, or something else?
crystal doesnt add gmush kills
Honestly just use fight afk gains and damage and use few candies
Get out of my chest
Mob respawn, fight afk, dmg
I sure do love mob respawn cards
would active exp not be the play to be power leveling vman from 422+? still crystal chance?
prob just need to test it out
a lot of times i do 1 and 1
so im half right either way lol
crystal chance effectively adds more exp
I think if its vman maybe we dont have to double crystal cards since he's all single target
yeah i know the crystals are the main source of exp, just should test i guess
if the increased crystals make up for less active exp %
Can someone show me the picture of tooth-necklace from 5w boss? I've spent over5k keys and still no pendant :<
can always look at wiki for those info
i was getting 7.5b exp/kill on crystals with the exp cards doubled, if i'm getting more with more crystals i'll have to watch
Best Hampter farmer is ES right?
somone have a cooking guide
get cooking speed boosts
use ladles
Primary sources are:
Artifact (turkey stack cooking speed)
Diamon chef (level 11 plates)
vman buff (total plate level)
atom collider (level 30 plates)
Is there an easy way in the sailing UI to identify which ship you want to allocate to which island. Sometimes my ships are all bunched up together
And it's hard even when returning ships to identify the expected travel time to figure out which island to allocate them to. Is there a good way to manage this or you just kinda struggle through it?
On the map, click on Show Identity. Then from the crew menu, act like you're deleting a captain. This will return their boat to the dock.
Not great, but all we have
then IE helps with other sailing management
what are we hating on lava today? poor UI/HUD for sailing again?
True, but that isn't in the sailing UI
the toolbox even more!
Do you recommend collecting all artifacts first, or should you generally be going for the higher tier islands as soon as you unlock them, and assuming you can complete the trip in 2 hours
idk i prefer IE for sailing, but love toolbox for other things
Can I trust the xp/hour indicator on the fishing afk screen? Or does that only show the xp for the basic green fish?
focus on the AD tablet, and the other one that i forgot, try to balance farming gold with farming the relics
there are some must have artifacts later on, like fury from i think island 9. generally you can jsut make your way through what bonuses you want to get
for seasalt island?
thank you
For seasalt island.
seasalt afk screen info assumes you can catch all fish with 100% efficiency
fish afk info is always wonky as it only shows assuming you only fish the lowest fish
Ah, right
That's what I thought.
Trying to decide if I should run transfusion on my vman, but if I do I can only fish the basic fish, VS fish 1&2 without.
pretty much gotta test with 1 hr candies
(Also? Htf are you supposed to reach fish 3 and 4 on vman? Crazy high reqs!)
can always use 1hr candy to compare
Yeah, that was my next plan!
alchemy is your best friend, also the vman eff boost enhanced
dont forget doubling ctroll if you have it and dimwit
You run dimwit on vman?
I thought that was the only character who shouldn't run it?
with the extra efficiency if you are under 100% its usually a net positive
Or am I thinking of Royal sampler?
sampler is also -exp but not that important to use on vman
Ah, probably got thrown off by the wonky fish xp last time I tried adding dimwit.
Do higher fish give better xp? Should I set my fishing gear to focus on higher fish?
i think best is plat twine and elephant
also if you have the fishing rings from the expeditions quest guy they might be better
worth testing between those and rex
idk how it is below 100%
the rings might only be when you are over 100
Good morning and yay, finally a new nugget, from 10k, 13k, 15k, 17k, 18k, 19k to 31k (finally a bigger jump)
@barren otter You were wrong with the 100k+ guess 😦
https://i.imgur.com/nQ12TSv.png
https://i.imgur.com/LQCxfPB.png
PS: my very next nugget was a 23k 
https://i.imgur.com/fLBDRDG.png
Rip Acorns*
Ok, confirmed: transfusion drops my xp/hr from 14m to 6m, because I no longer qualify for 2nd level fish.
Also confirmed: dimwit gets me red fish, but only 13m xp/hr. So seems vman without dimwit or transfusion gives the most gains. (For me at least)
Just depends on your effy, sometimes decreasing the level of your transfusion could net you more xp/h too
@steady beacon if you have the treasure maps unlock seasalt island literally gives ridiculous amounts of fishing XP all my characters are almost level 100 fishing now. I'm stumped on if I want to get fractal or crystal island because those are my last two islands two islands I need.
@gentle furnace @thin rose soon
Yeah, I'm at fishing lvl 79, just trying to catch up to my fishing lvl 90 BB.
Needs billions of xp now, so everything I can do to boost fishing xp matters!
am too dumb for breeding, jfc
i even watched videos about it but couldnt compile shit
breeding is easy
just unlock new pets and thats it '.'
Place heart pets on fenceyard to iincrease new pet change or splice DNA... then bam open eggs
am on the gublin one, dunno seems offsettling slow
its slow, but u have the splicing mechanic to help speed up
the heart pets raises the breedability for erryone or just that species?
thatnpet
so basically part of the breeding grind is w1 grind
makes sense, havent done nayfin in w1 on that regard
yeah its very vrey slow if u dont do splicing
https://aidsmaster.idleonefficiency.com weekly humiliation session gaise
still grinding goat god on all my mfers
will go to lab for 2 months afterwards it
Sorry but you could easily go through each tab yourself once and clean it up before posting.
So many straight forward things you could/should see that are barely worth pointing out.
Ignoring all that, your stamps and alchemy are terrible, due to your bad 3D prints. Work on getting better 3D samples, and things that net your better 3D samples. Along with that as mentioned, do the basics, your maestro 3D print talent is ready, refinery talent ready, keys capped, Deathnote close to next skull tier but not on way too many mobs, No ore in forge, anvil unclaimed etc etc.
Pop is good, rest is dice
if time was unlimited for sure, currently at work preparing for when I have time to act upon it. Was more concerned with what should I prioritize rather than look how good everything is. Thanks for the suggestions tho, alchemy and sampling is something i can quickly work on. Just wanna make sure is the most urgent thing.
The starter bubbles should already be at least lv 100
Alchemy
someone here told me to focus on getting all to lvl 40 1st
If you're lacking, it's like 99% of the time either alchemy or stamps.
Which are both somewhat bottlenecked by 3D prints.
I understand time is a thing, although a bunch of that stuff like claiming keys, anvil, etc. would take a few seconds and isn't necessarily a daily thing.
It sort of should be already
yea 
(not like im saying to XYZ Quests, and other stuff that takes time)
Also missing a lot of vials
Yeh, that's because of their samples too though
noice, got shit to do today BOISEEEE
what u mean?
shouldnt i just focus on goat god to then go to lab and do better samplings?
Mages sample and print wood...
Warris do ore (BB does fish)
ahhh yea, got it
id say am 3-6 days away
Div isn't playing, div is "im offline and not around"
When you do have time and are able to active, you dont active on div, you do stuff that helps your account
I'm not saying to remove 10 alts from div at once, you active 1, you afk div on the other 9
Then move to the next alt.
Some ideas on things you could actively work on when backtracking
Not anymore
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am at rank 6 of red salts, should i raise one salt to max and then jump to the other, or try to min max it all
i have the green one unlocked
Always raise red salts
and green too tbh
need to check those for sure
Just raise all, and keep spare salts on an alt so you can always upgrade towers
Nawh, you'll hurt yourself with void bars and other mats, especially for someone with those terrible samples
It'll force them to get better samples
also, so you guys dont think am a total noob xD
When they get to 100k samples sure, but for starters it would just delay crafting armor and weapons
Getting dementia tools on everyone isn't as relevant tbh
tomorrow will finish the helmet
Main tools sure
Ehh maybe, salts are one of the most timegated resources in this game.
dementia armor, tools ill leave it at golden for not the synergy ones
Also, having dementia all but 0 sets of void/chiz is also a bit behind.
You should have at least 1 or 3 sets of void/chizoar early w5.
(This once again comes down to lack of samples -> lack of resources etc)
Would it be better for his BB to be on kitchen rather than div?
I'd get goat asap before kitchen
Remember to change your cards
cards won't do anything for div. so it depends what their next plan would be
hahaha i got to w4 with amarok armor 🤣
Same, that's normal
But if you worked on your samples while pushing W4, you should easily have Void+ imo
i also need his blankieee D:
177k next
Like this one
Dementia -> Void -> Chizoar then later on a separate set will be Troll -> Magma -> Kattle(aka Divine) which can also be situational pieces if you min/max
I wish 😄
you can kill kruk with amarok armor
It really doesnt matter much
with enough alchemy :P
bosses are a joke in this game xd
Nah
think amarok gave me more trouble than any other
Wait till you get to Nightmare kattle
(at least for a while)
Its more like, defense is useless as long as you have enough food
yea, cant wait to finish early game
Yea, but if even hemo isnt enough you can push forward with food
if hemo isn't enough then you need to look over your account and fix the holes
the only thing that should give you trouble currently is your first push to tremor wurms and popping a crystal who can one shot squishy characters. beyond that you shouldn't have any issues in game when it comes to surviving mobs lol
That’s like, sampled for the quest in w3 right when they got there and never sampled again 
why do this dumb sampling thing when i can just afk there and make more ? ? or even better just use candy 😇
Finally got giant slayer done lol.
Cystal Island is worth it just for easy Vman levels.
and then others like BB 😄
never dawned on me to use transfusion on vman when collecting souls for exp
i am dumb dumb dumb
(left is with, right is without)
lol, honestly, i forget to do it most of the time
collected frozen souls for reference
I did not realize that efficeincy does not matter for EXP for worship until recently too.
Another vial down.
https://i.imgur.com/RVWMZ7U.png
it's too much of a hassle to remember which skills are optimal to use it and not
do you guys use fibers of presence for doing deathnote to 1b ?
Not always, i maxed it so in most cases it was worse
yeah mine is maxxed as well and i dont really see the value
Congratulations it is unbelievably annoying to collect all the souls when the cap is soo low
And waiting for the nullo salts to improve it is cancer
Huh, you can mass deposit souls though
Sure still takes long time
Unless I am wrong
Constantly going from the Totem to the chest over and over again
Is there an easy way to do it
I will make a vid, sec
As its coming out be stood at chest sspamming deposit
things auto loot after a set amount of time on ground, so if youre at the chest you can have empty inventory each time a new wave of souls want to be autolooted
2 methods, nearly done
How to do Worship Storage/Deposit efficiently
Option 1: Rope method
As you climb up the ropes, click the bottom rope again do climb down. As the pathing changes to go down, click the Totem, that way you will be downstairs near the chest and have the Totem UI open. Less time wasted moving to the chest, therefore more deposited in one "run"
Option 2: Auto Loot Method (requires the auto-loot purchase)
⚠️ WARNING For the Auto Loot method, don't do too many at once, as you still only have X seconds time to deposit.
Both methods come down to how fast you can click to deposit.
Jesus I i am heavily unoptimised
Hello veterans
Question about the rift, can I let my folks afk in rift beforehand and only claim them once I got to kill -- enemies while afk?
Yes, and it's a great strategy too. Just keep in mind that the kph won't be based on the wave you started at but based on the wave/hp/stats they login too.
Great thank you
is this enough to start eclipsing?
you could but it's a long slow grind for no real value
get to 10m and it's a lot more feasible
you could also do it starting now if you have doot and have a lot of chars doing "nothing"
These are roughly the kph i had when i started doing it
For W1, i checked my kph for each area first, number on the left, number on the right is the kph i actually had when i did that area.
W1
https://i.imgur.com/GA9lIBi.png
w2-3
https://i.imgur.com/7rWyqvn.png
I think I value getting them to dreadlo tools skill levels with my doot atm
Oh this is my barb I thought youd do on this to double up on superchow
if you're still working on getting dreadlo tools then you are too far off to having to worry about eclipsing anyways brother
Everyone has their main tool at dreadlo just not other 3
You superchow and that's it for bb,
I'm definitely doing something wrong. I think my SB is at 100b and I'm getting like 300k. Lol
SB and/or ES for the rest of Eclipse
seeing as how you stop at 100m kills you'd be wasting countless hours going for eclipse on bb. you get superchow and move on
time spent out of the kitchen for him is wasted time
Doing it on BB you would not benefit from SB's Extra bars/anvil stuff or ES worship.
All valid points now I remember super chow isnt 1000M haha
300k kph at gmush with 100b dmg?!
Oh derp, 1.5m gmush I think, but still low
I think I have a bunch of little piddly misc things I need to go repair that I egregiously neglected.
You got a bunch of -afk stuff like prayer, starsign etc?
Maybe also lack of chips, cards
I'll have to double check when I get home. Haven't had luck getting the starsign chips yet but I have all inf signs.
is there a purpose to have more than 200% crit chances?
w6 when overaccurate loose some power due to new accuracy requirement
that about hte only reason
Yes, Island Expedition shimmer island challenge*
ty
There are respawn rings?
Mob Repsawn
These?
Nope, those do help with kph but only exist for w2, 3, 4. So W1 you'd use mob respawn rings
What rings?
Stuff like this from dungeon:
https://i.imgur.com/ssl2HE6.png
or better, 20% from FOMO gem shop few weeks back
https://i.imgur.com/wZPNC6I.png
Oh sorry, keychain*
So what's better respaen keychain or AFK gains keychain?
are onyx statues acountwide?
Test and compare
Whichever you have less of tends to be more impactful, so test and compare 
In a Vman speedrun, you get a massive boatload of respawn from killing bosses, so AFK tends to give better results. In non-speedruns, Respawn tends to help more.
Can divinity pearls level divinity
AFK Keychains also work on skills, while obviously mob respawn doesn't.
Not currently, no. You cannot use any candies, balloons, or pearls on the CURRENT highest world. When w6 drops, we might be able to though.
Yep!
Thanks for calling me veteran ❤️
I'm just a local happy red panda
That's a shame since it's in the name
Just like the Divine Knight not specializing in Divinity 😂 Yup.
@paper sail RED panda 😉
I don't have any red panda emotes 😛
Add red color and you pass XD (You alredy did so this is just a statement)
yeah i was sour about that one
what is max level for those ?
170
This is getting ridiculous. Are recipes a one time drop? Could I have missed it if that was the case?
recipe will drop until you use it, the w5 glove recip is a know one to be hard to get
i dont recall how badly it was but i know sakori had finished the vial and was maybe at something like 4-5k rare urn
rng just sucks
I do believe it is currently the rarest item in the game
I nearly got 1B on magma before I got that recipe
That's one less eclipse at least
Is there a point to continuing lvling those ?
Also I never understood what the cost one actually does lol
Reduces cost of bubbles
Oh wow I thought it was meant to reduce cost of lvling up those 4 attributes lol, either that or cost to attempting another bubble
Pretty worth maxing all out unless you already have all bubbles in atom range, then it’s meh
Damn cost reduction for bubbles is actually fire
And other things so that you can pre-unlock higher world bubbles
Gotcha thank you. I just got all bubbles unlocked finally lol, is it smart to work on sigils now? Or continue trying to get w6 bubbles?
I’m at the sigil w envelopes as the icon in the top row
Sup dudes, is there an optimal way to use the King Doot pet? Like does divinity linking matter at all after you have him?
Could do a mix, eventually want all cauldrons maxed
Bet appreciate it bro
Popular advice is get all to 170 then sigil, can do it quickly with active bubo
Only need to have someone linked to purrmap iirc, rest is irrelevant
Question on that, my bubo hitting about 220k secs of alchemy progress w 1 CC. How long does it take for you to get CC off cooldown on average?
Even for minor link bonuses? Dope, just need to unlock purrmep then
I did that a long time ago so might not even be useful to you but may 2 to 3 an hour CC rotations
Yep, only thing you don’t get is the divinity blessings, that’s only available if you unlock the god. The rest major/minor bonuses are auto applied for all chars whether you’ve unlocked them or not (as long as they’re div lvl 2)
Yeah minor link for purrmap specifically needs someone linked. Think you get it for all other gods
Preciate you bro
anyway to tell how long you've been sailing for, I tried in idleontoobox and efficiency but I don't think I'm looking at the right place?
Thanks guys !
Enjoy, doot is fire
oh yeah snail lv 16
any tips for farming statues?
I've been active on my DK for maybe 8 hours and got 50 power statues
Do you have choc chip?
click the sailing skill
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is mastery more important than defence?
this week boss is kinda ugh.
I have the void imperium leggings rn and dont know if I should make them into the chizoar leggings
Mastery is garbage
so many buff or misc so little atk
so should I just leave the leggings as void leggings?
Mastery is ultimately a useless stat, just raises your minimum damage
Yeah next aim for troll leggings and eventually magma
oh thank you
alright will do
yeah dont even have w4 crafting yet but soon hopefully
I’m right there w you, got void. Boots and pants & chizoar helmet and chest
I’ve unlocked all anvil tabs tho, now to get the required items lmao
ok but that means chest is worth it right?
Yep chest def worth it
Damn that never happened to me
oh but it looks like they still counted but not sure
i really dislike the jewels/ chips rotations
still nearly 3 months for a choco chip
or i can rng gamble in the gem shop.... 
That's exactly why Lava has gems + chips like this 😩
Guys there is strategy for w4 TD?
for sorcerer, does your stamp level above your skill level limit(doesnt give more than X effect depending on your lvl) still affect the dmg per Stamp lvl?
are you talking about for this?
Stupid Q but whats atom refer to there
atom collider dmg bonus
@sick sentinel thanks a lot dude)
Nvm its per stamps collected haha
isnt there something that get boosted per lvl of stamps? im not sure
I thought this just buffs my bubo/ES smg whys that relevant
oh yeah rift!!
its the wizard towers
Always wondered why that atom is confusing to olayers
So is stamp level above what your skills can afford to get boosted still count toward it?
Yeah just not the full affect
okay thx
its benefit gets higher the more you lvl the skills tho
that i know
i just wanted to know if the lvl counting were voided or not ^^
cause im lvling my stamps in bulk right now even above 'stricted lvl)
stamp gud 
now that i know dk trumps bubo in money i dont wanna play bubo anymore 
stupid water
say what now
i was skeptical until i tried it
How can DK be better than Bubo for $
8x is a lot
even better if you have talents that can go to 300, im still as 267 orb
an easy 400 lvl stamps done
77% chance to gilded stamp i mean i can stop pushing skiling stamp for a long time
need 39 construction lvl for 1250
There's no shot dk competes with bubo in terms of money farm. Your kills per hour on bubo is insane
when you can get 800 orb score it counts as 8 kills per crystal mob, so even though dk gets fewer kills its more
yep
Have anyone tried doing it this way? With Krakens before the first frost at middle of the waves
tho its not always 800, usually varies between 750-850
running crystal spawn chance build?
i have 18.4 let me try taht orb score
but hm at what lvl is the orb resetting ?
i know one of my DK reset at one point an di gotta reroll him
17.11Dr* with crystal
my orb is at 267 if thats what you mean
theres a point with that skill where the cd is too short and it reset the orb count twice
(double orb reset count and when the old one disappear it reset again)
267 is no overlap, 300 without mana box if you can do that is better
hm wil lreset my skills
Removing po box was beautiful
how can you remove it
gem shop item
Correct
is that only if u can get orb to 300?
done
Correct afaik
damn, need slug
well i can only get 295 so far
306*
oh dang that will reset my count now right
Derp
Actually, think that the actual breakpoint to be the same was like 287ish or something in the 280s
yeah but it should be better with the longer duration
But not sure, someone else mentioned it a while ago
i just keep seeing 300 no mana box being thrown around
but cant test myself so oh well
is there a place on toolbox where it shows what divinity stance everyone is in all at once?
i think only if they are on div altar it shows as their activity on IT
how do you accept it? clicking not working
You don't own any
oh shit, thought it was the one i have 1.5k
Yes. W5 Div tab should show you
might be needing glasses 😮
ah ye on ie it does under alignment
should i keep the minimum chests to silver? i have 9 slots for treasures
i only see what god alignmnet there is, not the "style"
oh sorry, misread, yeh then no for toolbox i think
unless maybe in char page? Nope
time to check the orb count max
i think this is about the only thing i pull up on IE, was just wondering if I was missing something obvious on toolbox ;p;
Is there a calculator for spices? Im trying to get 10k for the next week jewel and dont know If Ill be able to
WTS Lazy Mode, Looks like this xD
https://i.imgur.com/5qoRBkx.png
idk how you manage to get your 750-800 orb count on tremor
whats ur crystal chance
No because its diminishing returns for unclaimed ones.. so depends how often you get them
let me verify
Get consistent 800s, even hit a 960 yesterday 😄
1:28
movespeed?
Do you need ancient forms for artifacts to work?
207
maxed attack talents?
might be speed yeh
and also how often your spice autocollect goes off helps
that will do it, get to visual speed cap at 350%
might be lacking into attack talent yeh
No, ancient is just a stronger version of an artifact
Oh okay
but yeah okay iu see all good now ^^
i am 1/25 crystal tho, so small dif there too
hm wondering how i can get it lower
Its Base version -> Ancient (getting the same artifact a second time) -> Eldritch (only obtainable once you unlocked it from Rift in W4, then getting the same artifact again).
Each version increases the buff/strength of it. And each version gets harder and harder to obtain
wtf 1/25 o.o
might have swapped my choco chip by mistake as well
1/26 my bad
Ohhh you got Vman talent eclipse 225 for +20s statues?
That helps a lot
need a couple more shrine lvls for 25
yeh
Any tips on getting 10k spice for next week jewel? What speed do I need to have with what comp?
lol
like trickz just said, can't really calc speed since it's diminishing buildup and depends how often you claim
also capped at 100 claims a day btw
plus autocollects
I understand yeah I was just hoping someone could remember their past experience with that spice or whatever and knows what I should do
But if you're worried about that now and it's only 1 week with one high tier spice, then you're most likely 2 late.
fkc
i get like 676
isn't there a guidesheet for planning ahead on chips and gems?
but attack aint maxed i gotta reset sometime
for now im satisfied, im a bit lazy rightnow
yeah but I have only 3 jewels so I cant gamble for it rn
attack? you don't 1 shot wurms?
i also gemmed the last few gems (haha gem gem gem gem)
And you also cant grind it... like look at the spice. What's your speed, whats the cost for 1 spice in terms of speed
i do
just wave attack not high % enough
i wasnt paying attentino when si remade em
4mill speed and the cost is 1,25mil, Im fucked
time for work now people. much love
Yeh, would take me 30mins to get my 8th one there, and 0 spice is still 1.25m cost. so either way, slow

