lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[dim wind]

200 per 😦

im sticking with volumetric bags on most accounts, only 25 pearlers now, and big enough

no point maxing out when a new size will be released in months anyway

[clear quartz]

yeah 😦 i only bothered getting on ES so far, but probably wouldnt mind on dk and vman at the very least.... eventually everyone ig, depending how long it takes for w6 stuff to come out

[pallid raptor]

Where is pong in this game

[clear quartz]

gaming

[pallid raptor]

What level of gaming

[dim wind]

in my case, the lowest level 😦

can't get above 10k

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/wWyVsrf.png

this box

[clear quartz]

bottom right import box

[pallid raptor]

Oh

Ok

[solid epoch]

takes a while to unlock that one, its like the 2nd to last one i think

[dim wind]

it's 375.000.000.000.000.000.000.000 bits

(375k green, 1 green is 1e18 bits)

[clear quartz]

yeah, pong then the cursed slimy thing

[pallid raptor]

Wow

[heady lark]

pong is pain

sorry *poing

[pallid raptor]

how much bonus exp gain on anvil is a good amount

[dim wind]

probably shouldn't go over 500% yet

you dont have that many points, and many uses for the products

try to balance the rest that you need about 50 hours until it's full, then you just need to remember once eveyr 2 days to empty it

good balance between afk and resources

[pallid raptor]

Ok so 400-500

[solid epoch]

id just do evenly into exp and speed near the beginning, dont need much cap if u can get a big material bag going

then once ur high enough anvil lvl to craft anything id go all into speed and a little into cap maybe

[pallid raptor]

Is this ok or should I buy more

[solid epoch]

sure

can u get a bigger capacity bag?

[clear quartz]

there are reset stones in w3 so you can undo it later if need be

[solid epoch]

if u can, id produce thread instead

u get more exp/hr by producing thread

[pallid raptor]

I have 2 characters that produce thread

I think

[solid epoch]

u just have to make sure it doesnt cap out

the characters that produce thread will need a decently sized material pouch

[pallid raptor]

Im making higher tier stuff with this charcyrr

[solid epoch]

yeah thats fine, u wont cap on those mats so ur good

[pallid raptor]

Like purple screws and pinion spur

[clear quartz]

pinions will be especially helpful come december

[pallid raptor]

Why is that

[clear quartz]

choco chip is very important, eventually

[dim wind]

yep, need to have 1 of those

and in idleon, keep an eye on the dashboard on the right, that shows things like overflowing anvil or worship

[knotty urchin]

does mantra also add exp to charas not meditating?

thank you

[dim wind]

Goharut + Mantra is the way ti go if you've just entered for a while

nighty nighty 👋🏼

[willow dawn]

New to world 5 and afk feels way faster than active now, I have doot which probably makes it so

[rugged cipher]

why not for divinity?

[opaque sun]

divinity doesnt have efficiency

But if using goat from lab, it helps the lab side a bit

[wind umbra]

that prayer doesnt work for div anyways, so no use taking it off

[magic ingot]

should i use the exp + skill eff - pray if Im using goat for both lab and prayer?

focusing more on prayer tho

[opaque sun]

other way around

[magic ingot]

this one

or

[sacred monolith]

You want more effciency

[opaque sun]

lab uses efficiency, but its not an “all skill exp”

[magic ingot]

ah

alr

ty

[untold saffron]

up to 9 hourly clickable bubbles

real time footage of my liquid

[heavy moth]

so much time on bubo just to have enough to hourly click XD

[opaque sun]

sounds like your cooking roadkill bubble might be a bit low then

[heavy moth]

maybe only at 1819

[small lantern]

WOW I sure do love getting happy hour popup when I'm trying to move to the left moles at the end of a 20 minute nightmare kattlekruk.

[rugged cipher]

can someone explain what king doot does for w5? i just got to it yesterday and unlocked the second divinity. im being told on reddit that i should have all the bonus from the other divinities (no only the unlocked ones) but honestly i dont see it. nor do ik where i can check that i have them

[sick sentinel]

do all your chars have lvl 2 divinity? thats the gate to doot working properly

[rugged cipher]

theyre all lvl 4 rn

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/51e7abaa06d52181eca2fb6d9658589b.png

[heavy moth]

the real probleme is the first liquid per hours it can cost more than 4K sometimes

[sick sentinel]

is your lab lit up iwht everyone? are you getting random procs for skills?

[rugged cipher]

i am getting random procs for (1 hr of insert skill here) the thing im confused about is they were telling me i should be getting lab xp aswell. though im not.

[rugged cipher]

yes. its lit. thats from the second div though right?

[untold saffron]

you shouldn't be

unless they're in the lab

they're counted as active in the lab from arctis, but not present in the lab for xp

[rugged cipher]

theyre not in the lab, theyre on the altar

[untold saffron]

move them from the altar to the lab

[sick sentinel]

did you connect all your characters to bear god?

[untold saffron]

then you'll get divinity xp and lab xp

[rugged cipher]

all of them?

[sick sentinel]

all the ones on the altar

[untold saffron]

whoever you want lab and divinity xp on

keep 2-3 out

[sick sentinel]

with goat god they dont need to be on it, they can be in lab

[rugged cipher]

ahh, im so dumb alright thnx

[sick sentinel]

you're new to gods all good man

[untold saffron]

i'd keep your BB cooking, vman going for rank 1's and one active to play

[rugged cipher]

theyre linked to both snake and bear god

[untold saffron]

everyone else can be thrown in the lab until 40 divi 75 lab

[rugged cipher]

appreciate you

[rugged cipher]

thank you for the help, much appreciated!

[sick sentinel]

tho it doesnt really matter since you have doot, they can only link to one god at once. clicking on any god will show this but if you click unlink it takes you to the page to see what they are actually linked to

but yeah np, you dont need to worry about that last part haha

[untold saffron]

you'll want to link someone to purrmep once you unlock him as the minor link bonus doesn't work otherwise even with doot

[sick sentinel]

the only god you need to actually link to with 1 person will be tiger

[rugged cipher]

SS that, thank you. about how long does div take? seems like itll be forever

[untold saffron]

its slow to start off, levelling the gods as you unlock them helps

[rugged cipher]

should i put the shrines on w4 or w5 town world? since most will be in lab

[untold saffron]

how close are you to finishing lab on the majority?

[rugged cipher]

lab is very behind. its the thing i didnt want to touch 😂

[sick sentinel]

its a tough call, but probably where you think you will keep the majority of your characters in the long run

lab takes a bit to do and having a cook helps

[rugged cipher]

should i put both BB on to cook with everyone else in lab except a pusher and Mman?

[untold saffron]

ah you're a double BB'er

[rugged cipher]

just followed a guide 😂

[untold saffron]

theres an elite class swap token in the shop right now

i'd swap him to a squire if i were you

[rugged cipher]

i got 2 DK as well

im at 10 characters

[untold saffron]

oh?

[outer harbor]

Time for a big boost. i just need black salts to max the rest of the gear

[rugged cipher]

i laid off on pushing to w5 for too long

[untold saffron]

whats your character list

[rough wasp]

4 warrior meta

[rugged cipher]

1x bubo, 2x dk, 1x sb, 2x bb, 2x es, 1x bm, 1x mman

[untold saffron]

I can see the logic, as long as you have all your mages for logs thats what matters

[tall horizon]

Over 6 hours later .51 is completed. Back to the grind, likely with no discernable difference lol.

[rugged cipher]

only one not on logs is Bubo, hes on Gmush for my salts

should i change that?

[untold saffron]

vman should be sampling mats

https://i.gyazo.com/6a8244dda1e9ed9485a0b01c5c9bf818.png

[rugged cipher]

the mats he gets are awful

damn

[untold saffron]

you sample during a speed run

[rugged cipher]

mine is not like yours

[pure spindle]

This still works?

[zealous niche]

It's intended

[untold saffron]

imagine if it changed, people would have to keep legacy samples on their vman forever

[opaque sun]

you should have like a specialized gmush killer anyway so dont really need to sample gmush cap

[untold saffron]

you right, red frisbees are the way forward

do higher level eggs have better odds of good pet power

[sick sentinel]

It increases the min and max range

[opaque sun]

it adds a bonus after making a roll, so overall you get better pet powers (and possible much higher power), but you still have a chance to roll a bad one and add a bonus to that bad roll

[old coyote]

is there a good dungeon guide? I only see ones from over a year ago, or they only reccommend grumblo

[opaque sun]

mostly its just jump in as DK (easiest job to get it online working)

[old coyote]

yeah im playing dk instead of ES for the first time

this class is crazy

[opaque sun]

Gray grumblo for early on in your dungeon progress. Foal for later on. Like the dungeon mechanic hasnt really changed much over the year besides the elite classes

[unreal fox]

nice last recipe

[bleak iris]

Can I send both ships to cloud one to uncover it faster? I ask instead of just yoloing it because I'm 2hrs into a trip and I don't want to cancel it and not be able to lol

[opaque sun]

you can send in as many, and just return ship if you changed mind

[bleak iris]

Also should I treat sailing like everything else and just focus speed over everything else¿

[opaque sun]

Return ship is immediate no matter how far it has went sailed

[bleak iris]

Thank you!

[opaque sun]

You want both speed and loot

Loot translates to more ship upgrades, which indirectly means more speed

[bleak iris]

Right. I meant I had one on the cliud, one on the island. The one on the island has already invested a large to me amount of time so I didn't want to pull him back if he couldn't add value to uncovering the cloud.

Okay!

Thanks very much!

[zealous niche]

Just hit rank 50 in dungeon, just want to confirm I'm reading ability 4 right, there's no point in selecting ability 4 since the other ones also do the same thing?

[signal osprey]

Yeah 4 is the one you use if you want the extra points without using traits 1-3

[cerulean hemlock]

Pog!

[zealous niche]

Trait 2 has no downside to it, so might as well keep on that one if you're not doing a challenge run

[hybrid spindle]

How does rift 17 work? What does "skulls spread half the time mean"? Do I just kill until a lava skull shows up or is there some other strat?

[next laurel]

What’s this quest ?

[cerulean hemlock]

Also guys a nooby update from your boi AAAAAA: I'm increasing my damage by around 6% everyday!

[zealous niche]

Kill the mob with the highest skull, don't ever let the map be entirely clear of mobs

[opaque sun]

Use ES or SB active for the lava skull one

[cerulean hemlock]

Get to wave 55 on clash of cans, while dealing 5k "1" damage

[opaque sun]

just auto on them and dont have to bother the mechanics

[cerulean hemlock]

ES is recommended.

[next laurel]

Wtf is clash of clans

[cerulean hemlock]

*cans, sorry, W4 totem

[opaque sun]

Map name

[cerulean hemlock]

Stupid autocorrect...

[next laurel]

Thx u that’s helpful

[next laurel]

No worries

[zealous niche]

For the 1 damage, get your char to be set on auto attack

[cerulean hemlock]

And have ES, as I just mentioned above

[signal osprey]

If you mean the weekly battle thing unfortunately it doesn't work that way

[cerulean hemlock]

Tornado does around 50 per spell if I remember correctly

[cerulean hemlock]

Nope!

[signal osprey]

In that case awesome

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep! Max is now.. 350mil....

[opaque sun]

you cant really choose a class for those quest series sadly

[cerulean hemlock]

Meh better than the 300 two weeks ago

[cerulean hemlock]

Also, I said everyday 😉

[opaque sun]

it has some caps, probably resets when your reset the dailies

[formal minnow]

So right and left hand enhancement for maestro just doesn't show up when you're looking at afk tab on your maestro, right?

[opaque sun]

not sure what you mean but what shows in afk info is what you get, and the left right hands’ self buff is applied to the afk info

since you mentioned “maestro” if you mean the pre vman talent, left and right hand doesnt apply to himself

[formal minnow]

But it does with the voidwalker enhancement doesn't it?

[small lantern]

Is The Divine Scarf always better than the green scarf? Or is the 20% damage bonus better on some characters?

[opaque sun]

Are you saying you have multiple vman and maetro?

[knotty urchin]

what happens when you use white pearl on maestro

[formal minnow]

I kinda just assumed this was saying he gets doubled bonuses from them

[opaque sun]

The afk info already incorporates the exp/efficiency bonus

Like your exp multiplier in character sheet has risen and also the efficiency has risen

[vagrant mountain]

1130 hrs til honk vial

[opaque sun]

So whatever you see in afk info is result of the enhancement. Issue is you are on fishing which only shows afk info assuming you only fish the lowest fish

So the issue is not the enhancement, but more on fish afk info

[formal minnow]

I'm sorry, I was getting two separate things mixed up in my head, thinking he needed to be number #1 in the skill for it to apply, and I just got him to 101 so he is the highest level one now, but I realized the bonus I was thinking it would give him went to the character at lvl 100 already

[pine slate]

Yo is there a way to instantly set the amount to but of an item in a shop to the max?

I've searched and searched but I can't find anything on it

[opaque sun]

Vman himself always gets the bonus. And hand bonus applies to anyone below him yup. Doesnt necessarily need to be no1

[opaque sun]

Quick↑ mode at bottom left

Click that, and when you click on the + mark it maxes out

[pine slate]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, tysm

[opaque sun]

And then click portrait to buy

[pine slate]

YOooooo That too, my mind is blown

[coral pecan]

does anyone know if pets are actually tradeable yet

[opaque sun]

Its not yet

[fallow aurora]

is there a certain amount of time chemical skips? or is it random?

[iron ravine]

https://gyazo.com/4e90777208f66012824680bc8a44e09f
YO anyone still stuck on blossom

[sick sentinel]

The tier of chemical times itself so 1x1 and 2x2 and so on

[opaque sun]

square hours of its tier

[fallow aurora]

WTF THATS OP

[manic moat]

I'm noticing that the hammer hammer bubble isn't giving me a third production point in the anvil, anyone know why?

[sick sentinel]

It just gives you speed

Or do you mean the 3x production

Like clicking on a 3rd item

[manic moat]

yeah the 3rd click

[sick sentinel]

Try refreshing map if you just swapled it

[manic moat]

I've tried on all my characters at this point

[sick sentinel]

Otherwise just click production on another item

[manic moat]

yeah, it's only letting me do two

[sick sentinel]

Do you have sheepie?

[granite grove]

you have the golden anvil hammer upgrade, right? like surely the only source for extra productions are only from that and the bubble

[sick sentinel]

Or have to select the bubble

[manic moat]

no, but I have hammer hammer on

yeah I have infinity hammer

[sick sentinel]

Spam click where it says produce, sometimes the location is finicky

[manic moat]

haha wow, that did it

spam click...wtf, two was cake

ty

[sick sentinel]

🫡

[manic moat]

sheepie would be nice though afk gaming and sailing while having all the rest on

[sick sentinel]

Def nice qol to have

Hope you roll it soon

[manic moat]

lots to go lol

[ocean lily]

yay

[manic moat]

very nice

[dapper prism]

Gz gz!

[cerulean hemlock]

What's the worst artifact in your opinion? Besides eye

[cerulean hemlock]

Supersonic speed 😄

[granite grove]

opera mask

[cerulean hemlock]

ah yeah that one hurts

[fervent brook]

Lava really should buff opera mask. Its bonus is uniquely bad.

[cerulean hemlock]

Arcade is uniquely... unique.

[granite grove]

needs to be at least 5% per power of 10 gold par to be viable

i mean like compared to the atom one which is huge with 15%

[vagrant mountain]

just make it scale with stats instead ez

[cerulean hemlock]

I feel like best thing in W5 gaming importss is snail.

and worst thing is snail too. When it levels down.

Back when it went to 0

[vagrant mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/gary-the-snail-gary-gary-good-good-gary-gary-food-gif-25657499

[cerulean hemlock]

The times were just like...

Yondergreen

[fervent brook]

I dont know what he was thinking when he made opera mask. Its percentage bonus is not inline with other similar bonuses.

[cerulean hemlock]

Just like kruk armor

[granite grove]

but then lava doesnt really play his own game soooo

[cerulean hemlock]

He does. He is the game apprently

[granite grove]

kruk armor is kinda fair in a way, side grade for utility stats but losing dmg/allstat

[cerulean hemlock]

meh compared to amarok armor...

Like bck when w1 was new

The differences are huge now

[granite grove]

kinda expected, tho powercreep starts to become exponential from w4 beyond, then w5 made it easy to reach casual trillion dmg ranges

[paper nova]

Just unlocked Vman. Wateched a couple vids on it but still unsure how to spec myself to get ready to go do my first speedrun. IS there a specific way to do it or just follow the talent guide and kind of go for it?

I have 137 pts. I think i'm gonna put 50-70 into void trial, like 20 into void radius, a few into quad jab, a few into bossing vain..

[grizzled elk]

Make sure speed is capped, then stack damage and mk per tier by whatever means you need to

After your first run you'll have more points

Are you able to book and max the chess piece skill on mman skill tab?

[paper nova]

my speed is garbo but i'm doing what i Can to up it

i was gonna book it higher but i'm out of checkouts rn and i'm at 137/135 checkpiece pts

[grizzled elk]

At this point then just do a run and you'll get more points to buff up for next time 🤷‍♂️

[paper nova]

👍 Sounds good ty for the pointers

[eager wraith]

What do you guys think of degen chat

[granite grove]

a burden

or just annoyance and/or stupidity for the most part

[vocal rose]

Divinity - is there a cap on how many points you can earn? [the ones used for unlocking divinities.] i logged into several characters, and the # wasnt going up.

[opaque sun]

there is no cap

If you mean the prediction when checking the altar, it visually doesnt take into account those done from lab

If using mantra, obviously you dont get any offering points

[vocal rose]

i was away for a day or two. logged into several characters. the # was at 43,404......and did not increase when i logged to different characters.

[opaque sun]

you either using a style that gives no points, and/or setting up your characters wrong on altar/lab

[paper nova]

@grizzled elk we take those

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/nuYxo2q.png

[signal osprey]

10k

[dapper prism]

Lol

Still need to lvl up Forge Cap

[signal osprey]

True

[vocal rose]

all characters are using mantra. so...is it per hour, real time, or per hour of afk time claimed?

[signal osprey]

Don't be like me and remember you have a bunch of arcade balls about 2.2k candies into gmush

[sinful aurora]

time claimed

[vocal rose]

well, i was claiming time. and nothing increased.

[dapper prism]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[opaque sun]

Need irl afk hours as you cant candy divinity anyway

And as mantra description says, its only exp for that style so it wont give any offering points no matter how long you afk on it

[granite grove]

literally said right there that it gives 1 exp and 0 pts per hour to all character

[graceful bramble]

Does farming giants with DK give more candies?

[opaque sun]

A guiide says mantra is best, but in practice when around that level you also need god unlocks to work on blessing which gives lot of multipliers so in practice matra is kind of bad at that timing

[vocal rose]

forgot about that. was following guide. hadnt messed with it in weeks.

[opaque sun]

Its a good option later on tho

[hot dove]

How often does the autocollect deal appear?

[vocal rose]

so what should be used instead of mantra? let's say TranQi is unlocked. all at ~lvl.45. vitallic might not be best, as most are showing a double AFK claim % of 30-40%.

[dapper prism]

Idk but in my guide (pins) i'm pretty sure i write to not use Mantra. Coming from someone who did use Mantra. It's not worth it, as Topbird said, you care about gods, points, not XP, xp wont do much especially with low multipliers.

[opaque sun]

Like mantra is good in theory for min max exp, but bad early on in practice

Vitalic is actually a good balance of exp while getting some blessings

[dapper prism]

Vitalic is alright, although I'd still stay on Focus if i did it again until i had goat.

[opaque sun]

Also note that mantra’s shared exp doest get doubled, but self buffing exp like vitalic can get the 2x exp claims

[dapper prism]

Maybe even stay on Focus till Omni for the div gain minor. Not sure how long it would take to unlock though

[opaque sun]

Tranqi is simply for a “better than nothing” when taking them off altar

[dapper prism]

By the time you even get to lvl 60 or 80 div for those "good point/xp" stuff, you already have all the gods you need anyways.

Might be different if/when Kattle/Bagur gods get their buffs if they are great, then strategy may change

[sinful aurora]

Probably wont have one before w6

[zealous niche]

If God ranks became more valuable too it’d change the worth of those top styles

[vocal rose]

had been using the Idleon Guide Sheet for deciding which divinity style. i'll check your guide.

[mint remnant]

the pain is finally over

[hybrid spindle]

do you have to unlock star signs for infinity stars to work?

nvm, i just tested it. seems like you don't

[opaque sun]

Unless you want to apply double chip effect by assigning it, you dont need to unlock it

So those side branching ones you never going to bother double can be left as it is

[hybrid spindle]

not all. the critter one is useful

[opaque sun]

That falls into “side branching one you would double”

[dapper prism]

In Gaming, for Sprout cycle time, when it shows like 3min then 2.9min etc. it's not breakpoints, but every upgrade matters, right?
Like if it took 5 upgrade levels to go up that 0.1 it still just means each of those upgrade levels were equally effective?

[opaque sun]

In theory yes. We just dont know up to what decimals it actually affects the cycle times (frames)

[hybrid spindle]

3min cycle time 👀

[dapper prism]

👀
https://i.imgur.com/YXWNmS7.png

I just never really wondered until now xD

[opaque sun]

W6 will be like 5 sec cycles where it grows on the spot

[dapper prism]

True, so if it's only per second and not decimals, might be multiple upgrades for a time increase

[hybrid spindle]

what's the use if you only have 4 stages of plants?

[signal osprey]

Theres 7 stages later on

[dapper prism]

Superbits you go to t7

[opaque sun]

more frequent harvests

[hybrid spindle]

hmm...i unlocked them but i have not gotten a single one beyond 4 so far

is the chance that low?

[dapper prism]

T5 Chemicals = very nice/op as its a full log refresh

[opaque sun]

With enough cycles like say 5 sec, tier 5 will be much more common

[dapper prism]

Once you have chems, getting t5 (and even t6) becomes a lot easier. T6 still very low/slow

[signal osprey]

I'll get my first T7 soon

[hybrid spindle]

chems is what?

[dapper prism]

doubt i have enough multi to unlock t7 yet

[dapper prism]

Last plant that you unlock

[opaque sun]

is what what

[hybrid spindle]

i don't even have the 2nd to last yet

the 3% chance isn't helping

[dapper prism]

Keep your kitsune turned on

[hybrid spindle]

I don't even want to know what the odds for the last one are

[opaque sun]

Dont save dna

[hybrid spindle]

and instead?

[dapper prism]

Gaming: How to unlock Plant Mutations (Chemicals)
https://i.imgur.com/bPz7jCs.png

[opaque sun]

100 tries of 1% is much better odds than 5 tries of 3%

[hybrid spindle]

just spam with every single?

[opaque sun]

Spam per all harvest basically

[hybrid spindle]

smort

[opaque sun]

spam per plant is in theory best, but too much effort

[dapper prism]

I'm also curious if the Research % goes into deeper decimals and is just displayed as rounding or if it's actual breakpoints.

[zealous niche]

So spam as much as your sanity allows

[hybrid spindle]

most certainly rounding

[opaque sun]

visual rounding

[dapper prism]

And keep Kitsune turned on for more plants

[opaque sun]

Even for bits, kitsune turned on is a net gain in theory if you can harvest it

people turn it off when the frequency of harvest just gets out of hand to optimize

[dapper prism]

yeh im trying to get rid of all my chems to finally turn kitsune off for the first time since ever..

[signal osprey]

1.8 minute cycles

[hybrid spindle]

sounds like another perfect "idle" mechanic 🤦‍♂️

[opaque sun]

Spelunking from Idle Skilling says hi for the future plant cycles

[dapper prism]

When you had 15 chems, but have already gone through like 50 chems xD

[hybrid spindle]

spelunking? you mean autoclicker-central?

[opaque sun]

The 3 sec clicking game to jump in and out

[dapper prism]

Issue with spelunking was you still have to claim the bags too every 3rd-ish cycle

[hybrid spindle]

considering that both his games have idle in their name he sure likes to implement mechanics that force you to play 24/7

[opaque sun]

Imagine sailing being a 3 sec trip. Thats spelunking

[dapper prism]

More annoying part, is that the buffs in Learning, you can only get +9 max at a t ime, unless that's also just visual?

[opaque sun]

Its like sailing where you have to keep all 19 others at dock to buff the ship and claim the best ship every 3 sec

[hybrid spindle]

if you add up all the micromanaging garbage with gear/cards/food/signs/talents, then we already have to do something every 3 seconds

[dapper prism]

QoL what we need is Presets for stuff like starsigns and gear/food etc that we can change with 1 button. Like Runescape. Go to your storage, click preset 1 for combat stuff, click preset 2 for skilling (sample) gear stuff.

[hybrid spindle]

it's the reason i quit in the first place. I was quite happy when I saw the infinity sign thing....just to find out that you still need to micromanage when you use double star sign chips -.- That's just one huge tease

[opaque sun]

idle skilling had linked card sets, cant see why he cant do for idleon (though it had some bugs tho)

[dapper prism]

at least we got passive cards here, even better

[hybrid spindle]

is switching back and forth to another character to reduce respawn rate still a thing?

[dapper prism]

Although passive cards in IS are 2x if equipped.

[severe perch]

make all cards passive?

[hybrid spindle]

what's the use if like 5 cards are passive? We still need to manage the other 9995 cards that are left

[opaque sun]

theoretical it snap shots for like 2 sec, but not a thing to worry now

[hybrid spindle]

so it was fixed?

[dapper prism]

At least you have enough slots to equip what you need with the preset after the skilling stuff is all passive

[opaque sun]

card drop chance still snapshots tho

[opaque sun]

It was fixed as in respawn updates dynamically after map change

[hybrid spindle]

That does not change anything honestly. That's just like a bonus in stats and changes nothing managing-wise. We still need to switch cards, just that we now use different ones from before

[opaque sun]

Passive crystal cards will help alot, but will not want to sacrifice the double bonus

[dapper prism]

Most tedious, dg cards xD

[zealous niche]

Rift makes a tonne passive

[hybrid spindle]

what?

[dapper prism]

Think the bigger issue is, yes rift passive for all the skilling is great. It removes the purpose of "Do I need skill xp or skill effy vs skill speed" etc. but at the end of the day, you still have to switch your presets around, all the time.

[hybrid spindle]

the only thing i saw were traps. and you could just use traps that take 24h. that was not too bad when compared to most other things

[dapper prism]

Same as the above mentioned infinite starsigns. Great, but for doublers you still need to equip and change, adjust stuff whenever you do other stuff

[dapper prism]

It's for most skills*

[hybrid spindle]

wut? every skill is automated? how the hell would that even work?

[dapper prism]

We are talking about passive cards..

[hybrid spindle]

we are not

"Rift makes a tonne passive" was the statement

[dapper prism]

And the reply is literally to the last 5 minutes of CARD PASSIVE discussion..

[hybrid spindle]

yeah, my brain just jumped from passive to fully-automated for some reason...whoops

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/pipa-cat-pipa-cat-sazabio-pipa-cat-sazabio-gif-21107905

[hybrid spindle]

because my first thought was the trap thing and that's actually automatic now

[ashen marsh]

why is it that I get lower bits when collecting sometimes?

I don't have kitsune rock on

[dapper prism]

For the same plant? (excluding evergreen)

[ashen marsh]

yeah it's weird.

[opaque sun]

Maybe switching DK’s talent preset and forgot to put back

[clear quartz]

anything obvious i am missing? guessing maybe just my alch needs powerpushed?

[ashen marsh]

yeee I think that's it tbh

[ashen marsh]

currently have dk fighting

[opaque sun]

afk gain % seems can be worked a lot more

[dapper prism]

If thats the case, be sure to just have your 2nd dk/es/sb to have those maxed out on both presets. Never need to worry about then.

[ashen marsh]

yee true that.

[solid epoch]

got mob respawn keychains?

[clear quartz]

i coul swap for respawn i suppose

[solid epoch]

if u got the fomo ones its better for sure

do u have kattle gear equipped too? that gives a decent amount of mob respawn

but yeah ur afk gain is low, assuming u dont have the divine scarf either

[clear quartz]

only chest, i should go make pants here soon

yeah nowhere near unlocking scarf

[dapper prism]

Beefy prayer

[solid epoch]

getting full kattle + divine scarf + 4 kattle obols will make ur kills/hr much higher

[clear quartz]

ohhhh the obols

[dapper prism]

Also, you got all the other mobs to 5m+ DN in w1? (i'm assuming this is about gmush grind)

[solid epoch]

yeah 1 personal and 3 family ones, would give u 24% afk gain

• more dmg

[clear quartz]

gmush grind/thinking about eclipse

[solid epoch]

oh yeah true, max out ur skulls in w1 will help

[clear quartz]

way early for eclipse from what i gathered earlier

[solid epoch]

yeah but u could do lava skull instead maybe

[dapper prism]

With that kph, yeh, 2 early for eclipse

but slowly getting BB to Superchows will also help with the 100m DN

[clear quartz]

all lava'd on w1 at least

[dapper prism]

Yeh that's a clean DN list (except for sheepie )

[clear quartz]

maybe ill do w2, bb kph is way more than my sb still

get a nice boost to my superchows with all those, w3 probably still tricky at wher ei am

[solid epoch]

id wait to do w1 eclipse after you get the kattle gear/scarf/obols setup

grab all other sources of multikill that u can find also

like the monolithialism star talent with 25 onyx statues, frozen soul vial

[dapper prism]

bigger thing was also afk gain for you

My SB atm: https://i.imgur.com/eJy5je1.png (with 1 fomo mob respawn ring)

[pearl cedar]

I'm not gonna candy gmush until I get w1 rings

Which should be soon since @signal osprey just candied some

[dapper prism]

meh, world rings are a bit rare..

[solid epoch]

i doubt he would ever add a w1 ring lol

[signal osprey]

Yeah I did another 200b gmush so expect a ring next update lol

[dapper prism]

Played for 6.5 months. and I've seen W4 2x, and W3 1x. Nothing else, ever

[pearl cedar]

Well he's only released w2-4 rings.

[dapper prism]

W6 release will get us W5 rings xD

[solid epoch]

he prob skipped w1 rings because he thinks its too easy to push through w1 already, i mean the portals are like a couple hundred kills

didnt they appear like right as w5 got released?

[pearl cedar]

Oh I'm sure, but if you don't think he'll do a new tier of DN and drop some rings....

[solid epoch]

i figure his idea behind those rings was to get new players through to w5

[signal osprey]

The rings first dropped shortly before rift iirc

[dapper prism]

Think it was both the w4 then w3 after rift

[solid epoch]

hmm maybe lol, tho if he didnt make a w1 ring earlier i find it hard to believe he would add one later

[pearl cedar]

Yes but this gives me a good reason not to candy gmush

[signal osprey]

They first released like 2 patches prior to rift and then I don't think W2 has ever shown up again since

W3 did recently and W4 has made 4 appearances iirc

[solid epoch]

yeah just wait for when u either have w1 rings or ur already at like 100m/hr

[clear quartz]

ugh, yeah and nm kruk is painful to kill on bb, so gonna hold off on that

got about a quarter down and misclicked and got healed to full, so that sucked

[solid epoch]

were there multiple w2 rings? i only got 1 rn

[pearl cedar]

Just 1

[solid epoch]

[pearl cedar]

A lot of people didnt buy the rings because at the time there was no purpose

[solid epoch]

i bought it for the slab baby

10/10 purchase

[pearl cedar]

Then he did 1b dn

Lol

Ultimate troll

[opaque sun]

and now that blue gems are even more easier to farm, no reason not to buy at least a pair of each

[signal osprey]

I still need to recover from the current fomo shop

Lava went hard af on this one

[clear quartz]

maybe time to push quick slap? not quite within atom range for startue which was my next goal, but maybe tomorrow or day after perhaps. ig cranium cook also a solid choice, although most of my water just is getting dumped into increasing cap. so far only able to kill nkruk with my es and dk so getting the scarf unlock will be quite a slog but quick slap im guessing is the msot surefire way to get there

will probably farm the mats for the nblb as well today so it doesnt hit those godawful bubbles, but yeah

[solid epoch]

itll def get u there, depends on if ur willing to sacrifice leveling the other stuff right now tho

like larry 500

u could push that to 1100

up2u tho

[clear quartz]

i could, but that ust sounds like pain right now

[solid epoch]

if the only thing u want to increase is dmg then go for it

[clear quartz]

i probably should drop my atoms on hocus choppus and such so ill have reasonable print gains when the time comes, but i dont imagine ill be getting any huge gains from samples for a long time

[opaque sun]

should work more on getting bubbles to 90% effectivity before committing to slap

[clear quartz]

fair

i suppose im in for a grind regardless lol

[dapper prism]

With max artifacts and stuff, how much PO boxes does one get per 100 keys?

I believe i got 240 po boxes per 100 keys a while back, but think i was still missing something

Just checked, guess it is still 240 even with eldritch.

[ashen marsh]

what's your max wave lvl for w1?

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/05tW4AV.png

130

[ashen marsh]

wow nice

[dapper prism]

That frosty woulda been 130 if i didnt accidentally leave xD

Goblin, if you manage 120, you get 130 for free pretty much

[ashen marsh]

im at 99 rn but my towers aren't high lvl atm

[dapper prism]

around 114-117 gets hard for dmg

but rest is just time gate. wish bosses would just get a 90% hp nerf as their hp does nothing besides timegate you

[ashen marsh]

that's true, it's taking a couple min to kill wave 100 boss lol

[dapper prism]

Some worlds the 120s/130s can be like an hour or more, just afking..

It gets so long that map mobs start to spawn and you're able to do combat again xD

[ashen marsh]

no way lmao

the regular monsters on the map

?

[dapper prism]

thats how i accidentally left the 120 frosty.

Yeh

You go afk and watch stuff, you get back and see mobs and kinda assume you failed but then realize the UI is still up and you're still on waves

[ashen marsh]

damn I died at wave 108 for w1

need to lvl up more

[opaque sun]

It also starts to respawn on a whim when you quit and restart a new fight quickly in a certain way

[surreal glade]

Where can I see this exp oer charge

Looks very useful

[dapper prism]

IE, W3, worship, Totems

[surreal glade]

Thank you

[dapper prism]

https://www.idleonefficiency.com/world-3/worship

Always do max xp/charge on maestro

[upbeat trout]

the amount of hampters you need for w5 items is insane, should i use ES to farm them ?

[sinful aurora]

Yes

Max damage build, else dr. Dont use the prayer that buffs monsters hp for mor dr, its a trap.

[hybrid spindle]

is there a cheatsheet for worship?

[inland mist]

Why i havnet seen tier 5 plant yet?
Am i missing something or i just need to wait more?

Also growth cycle is only way to evolve the plants along with cactus plant?

[dreamy rapids]

🇷

🇳

🇬

[inland mist]

? It does says 16.9%.

[uneven violet]

T5 is 5% of that chance

So it’s just below .85%

[upbeat basin]

Anyone with a character name starting with a P here? 😄

[pure yarrow]

good upgrade here for dk?

dmg then cons?

[uneven violet]

Probably lab is best for dk trust

Honestly probably whatever you want either damage or cons both good

[past grove]

Dk? Construction all the way right?

Haven't unlocked those boxes yet but that seems the smartest since one of DK's focuses is on construction

[lilac patrol]

i have a question regarding gold pocketwatch. Is there a list somewhere were everything that it fasts forwards is stated?

[opaque sun]

Yeah. In the #endgame-gen-chat pinned comment

Its more of triggers the reset than ‘fast forward’

[lilac patrol]

Thankyouu

[upbeat basin]

How did you guys go about unlocking the last 2 mutations in gaming?

[teal lynx]

Research with 0.1% chance and get lucky
DNA has diminishing returns. You could either do 200 tries at 0.1% or 1 try at 1%. Not sure about the exact %, but quantity over quality

[opaque sun]

Researching per plant is theoretical optimum, but that eats away your sanity so people usually research per “harvest all”

[upbeat basin]

Makes sense I guess. saved up for a couple of days and had 3% chance which made me question my existence.

Per plant seems very tedious indeed 😂

[opaque sun]

With the time it takes to get 3%, you probably could have done like 20-30 tries of 1%, so quantity wins

[upbeat basin]

Guess I'll just activate the kitsune then and keep trying.

[formal minnow]

I think I just spent all my good rng luck too late today. Tried to roll doot, instead rolled rift slug three times, then played arcade and watched one ball get gold portal and fall back to iron and get gold portal 5 times in a row, then it finally hit the gold boxes and got purple and landed the arcade jackpot

[livid raft]

Ive had doot for a while now... still no rift slug lol

[vale wadi]

i cant get a higher nugget then 10.000:( my friend who has less upgraded got already 33.000 how??

[versed cypress]

rng

[livid raft]

I've had 27K for over 5 months on the nugget and nothing new. Its all RNG

[vale wadi]

yeah its annoying!

[shadow sundial]

i just hit world 5, wanted to ask if i just should start putting all of my characters except the pusher into divinity

[tropic kiln]

where was the worship sheets

[balmy cobalt]

as long as you can hit the max kill rate for the base spawn drop rate prayer is good

[muted slate]

tbh put all in for now, pushing w5 with no multikill is pointless

[violet iris]

I had 2 or 3 outside divinity at start just soi I wouldn't get too bored

[balmy cobalt]

With world 6 on the cards, ive moved all mine to do the laborious stuff like leveling divinity, lab, cooking ladles, farming up sets of gear or all characters. I agree pushing worlds on non-maxed characters / secondary characters might not be the best. especially if kill counters get lowered in 2 or 3 months like usual

[violet iris]

yeah true. WIth w6 release Lava typically also allows candy to be used in the previous world so W5 will be trivial

[versed cypress]

not necesarly trivial specialy with how ppl seem to just be constantly pushing wiht out getting previous worlds up and running so ppl are falling firther and further back from the min dmg needed to even be in the higher worlds

but portal requirements do get lowered a lot

do once w6 comes w5 portals become much easier to deal with

[shadow sundial]

till which point should i put them in there ?

[muted slate]

till you get goat

then back to lab jail

[shadow sundial]

Lmao

[muted slate]

[shadow sundial]

understandable

Alright, thank you

[balmy cobalt]

did lava already reduce craftable costs for w5 items? Want to craft material bags for all my characters but the 200 hampster cost is criminal 🥲

[cerulean hemlock]

There's no... Jail out of free pass? 🥺

(Ignore bear for 10 seconds)

[pulsar cliff]

nope lol

[autumn wasp]

anyone know if this buff is permanent?

[pulsar cliff]

Permanent in that run ? Yes.

But it doesn't affect your characters outside of the dungeon thing

[autumn wasp]

before

after

[pulsar cliff]

Huh, pardon my ignorance. Can't comment then!

[granite grove]

resets weekly

[tropic kiln]

guys where are the worship setups I cant seem to find them

[cerulean hemlock]

It's not actually 6% damage though,, jsyk

I think it's additive with other % bonuses...?

[granite grove]

odds are he has other dmg buffs within that week, because the 6% increase seems rather huge and almost certainly it is in with its separate dmg multiplier pool

[pulsar cliff]

^

[sinful aurora]

It is 6%. But its additive with itself. If it's your 8th stack this week, the difference between 42% and 48% isnt 6% of total.

[cerulean hemlock]

But hey, we now all know that the weekly boss raids are a very good way to get free damage from doing basically nothing

I also realize I got the %damage buff only on vman

which makes sense, since jman, hotdog

but Idk

it's just speculation at this point

[sinful aurora]

Weird. Might help speedrun though. And that sample.

[cerulean hemlock]

Raids is by far one of the most fuzziest things in-game (since it's new)

But hey, I'll take the free additive damage, I'm not stupid 🙂

[granite grove]

its less about just being additive, but more about the dmg from weekly boss fight is its in separate pool

say, a 1.06+10 multi is smaller than 10*1.06, the latter being separate dmg multiplier or sth, ig

but yeah, all in all, its additive

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah, additive is esentially the TL;DR of things

Gave me a heart attack

[bold quiver]

if i use 10 of this, will i get 10 exp per hour?

[autumn wasp]

yes

[bold quiver]

😮

[earnest rampart]

I've only had world 5 unlocked for a few days. It seems like every time I come back to check on my sailing, I only get 4 chests, regardless of how many boats I have or how long it's been. Is this the max amount I can hold?

[bold quiver]

and is that exp multiplied by ES bonus?

cuz if its only 1 it sucks

[granite grove]

yes, just that it doesnt benefit from double exp (for both initial claim and shared claim)

[cerulean hemlock]

Imagine 100% reroll chance

[granite grove]

even if double afk is set to 100%, still wont affect mantra

[zinc torrent]

Where is the best place to compete the 100k statues quest on my non DK?

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep! I was talking about 100% reroll for lucky lads, etc. (Slightly off topic from div)

[cerulean hemlock]

Dreadlo candy axe

[granite grove]

be on topic then, or dont use reply as ppl will certainly assume you are continuing the convo/context, or there will be confusion

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah, that's 100% my fault

[hidden osprey]

is this thing working correctly xD? just got my vman

[cerulean hemlock]

resuming the actual thing though.... so all div exp multis affect mantra?

[cerulean hemlock]

Refresh map maybe or actually upgrade your meals.

[granite grove]

yes for div and blood marrow

[cerulean hemlock]

It's the latter

I presume

[zinc torrent]

Ah nice, so I'm looking at like 350 hours worth of candy, yikes 😬

[granite grove]

blood marrow isnt buggy (other than lava applying percentage 1/100 multi twice), its just that it sucks on early level

[teal lynx]

This is 1.0066^times of meals. It gets exponentially better per meal
Something along those lines. It scales insanely good with meals

[granite grove]

its exponents as in above, or x^n

[cerulean hemlock]

Ah

[cerulean hemlock]

Manageable

[hidden osprey]

guess we gotta do some cooking 😎

[granite grove]

for example, 1.0066^2000 would be 517k multi

no, not percent, actual multi, or equivalent to 51700k%

[teal lynx]

Drop Rate, Mining Speed, 100% eff all contribute to statue gain. There is a guide in Pins for best Card Sets for example. Might be able to boost it just a little more

[cerulean hemlock]

For some reason Lava really likes his POW (Power of Tens) and Exponents

[granite grove]

if lava uses sth like ln instead of log_10

[noble mesa]

As u can see....

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep!

[hidden osprey]

i got my w1-w3 chow stacks on my barb so i will probably throw him to do some cooking

[teal lynx]

[hidden osprey]

and start working on diamond chef/meals levels

[granite grove]

advising to not use reply-ping when the ppl is literally there, some ppl can get annoyed by that

[tall horizon]

🤷 they can disable pings

[bold quiver]

how would they know im talking t them

[teal lynx]

This is btw to show the difference between 130 total levels. Basically 4x speed (lets not count the few extra levels on the talent)

[noble mesa]

So litell total lvl defrecs and yet big cooking speed u gat

[tall horizon]

easier for the person being annoyed to disable, than for everyone else to manually remove the ping on every message

[granite grove]

that, but better avoid if possible tho not required, and it depends if you wanna notify them if offline (and need to let them know)

like, why ping if the ppl is literally talking in the convo at the moment

[bold quiver]

i see i see

[tall horizon]

removing ping is extra, uneeded effort. When the person potentially receiving the ping can just block all pings if they dont want to receive them.

[granite grove]

but then other notifications tho

fine i guess, guess i derailed it bit too much here

[bold quiver]

u sure did

[tall horizon]

off-topic is fine if its not interrupting idleon

Discord needs to enable an option to disable ping replies completely. I just think its absurd for any user to expect every single person that uses discord to click and disable the ping for every single message they ever type.

[granite grove]

that, or no-ping reply by default, at least to prevent @ for every reply, but then not that it would do much unless muted notifs or block, lol

[earnest rampart]

Sorry to repost but I'm finding sailing a bit confusing and I can't seem to find good info online:

It seems like every time I come back to check on my sailing, I only get 4 chests, regardless of how many boats I have or how long it's been. Is this the max amount I can hold? Is there a way to see the max amount?

[granite grove]

did you accidentally set the chest filter from arrowhead artifact?

[earnest rampart]

I don't have that yet. I've only had world 5 unocked for a few days

[granite grove]

like, if you set it above bronze, you will get nothing unless if its iron and above

[tall horizon]

You can increase capacity from a gem shop purchase, a w5 merit and an artifact.

the cap is 29/30 currently.

[earnest rampart]

Oh cool, thanks! Is there a way to view my current capacity?

[tall horizon]

I dont think there is any way to check other than letting your ships fill up your loot.

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

[tall horizon]

has an option that displays it though

[earnest rampart]

Awesome, thanks for the help. I guess I should focus on upgrading loot value instead of buying more boats until I can get that cap increased

[tall horizon]

You're going to want to do both, you can send some ships to unlock new islands as well.

[earnest rampart]

Oh right, I nearly forgot about the clouds. Good call

[tall horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/rashaken-idleon-sailing-cloud-reveal-gif-5794809769459609614

[sacred verge]

where can i find base kill cap for monsters

like the highest base kph

for the different worlds

[tall horizon]

This is an old chart, not sure how reliable it is. 🤷 dont have w5

[sacred verge]

ty

[tall horizon]

I believe there is an updated one around somewhere with w5

[sacred verge]

just trying to figure out what mobs to eclipse first in the different worlds

[clear quartz]

i believe

[bright idol]

does being in lab with goat god also give divinity exp

[glossy gate]

is getting a 400+ size nugget on your first shovel use ever in gaming rare?

[graceful bramble]

Why am i getting those extra levels only on some of the skills?

[steady beacon]

what's the current endgame gear recommendation for active ES? Partly divine, partly magma?

[green eagle]

because some skills are coded to not have extra levels applied to them

[tacit tulip]

Dang on my way home and an update wasn't released while I was gone

Foiled again

[sacred verge]

wdym lol

[tacit tulip]

Lava usually releases updates while I'm on holiday

So I went to Spain this weekend and was expecting an update 😄

[sick sentinel]

Dont worry, im going on vacay this weekend so expect it then

[untold saffron]

is there any reason to put nullo salt traps on everyone except for the flex?

I'm also away this weekend so it'll definitely be then

[upbeat basin]

Why Poing gotta do me dirty with lag spikes

[tacit tulip]

Flex and also 3agi

And also to prep for a potential w6 trap

[untold saffron]

shame the trap didn't get all stats or damage like the skull

[tacit tulip]

Even a slot would have been enough

In theory lava will add a new pattern to that trap (and w5 worship prayers) eventually

[frail mauve]

You failed us all 😭

[green eagle]

the stuff he's posting in #💖future-content-blog is interesting, i can't quite figure out what it will be

[frail mauve]

Hopefully something that comes soon tm

[green eagle]

[tacit tulip]

Upgrade/complete is reminiscent of idle Skilling's spelunking

The cloud motif means it's probably a w6 skill

[green eagle]

Spelunking shiver

[tacit tulip]

Sailing is already spelunking lite so it adds up

[frail mauve]

Oh no

[green eagle]

pretty much

[frail mauve]

The nightmares

[cunning junco]

Spelunking was awful cause optimal way was doing short 1-2min hops

[green eagle]

1-2 min hahaha

[frail mauve]

You mean a few sec

[green eagle]

no endgame splunking is clicking as soon as you can

so you can get the materials needed to machine convert them

[cunning junco]

Well I only played for the trophy so never optimized but you are correct

[green eagle]

it was cog clicker on steroids

[frail mauve]

🤢

[opaque sun]

Spelunking was basically sailing with minimum sailing time of 3 sec

[tacit tulip]

I feel like I've put a curse on the land with that suggestion

[frail mauve]

You really have....

[tacit tulip]

Will note it down for when w6 comes out 😄

[frail mauve]

Oh boi

[green eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-gif-20671953

[frail mauve]

Fyi i made a suggestion in the suggestion chat. Would love if you take a look at it and rate it 😄

[lost depot]

Maybe Crystal monsters in W6 could have a small chance to drop an item that gives you more alchemy upgrades, similar to the way post office pens work

[frail mauve]

That would be a nice addition. I just some suggestions my main hope is just more ways to upgrade that isn't time gated the same way atoms and NBLB is.

[hidden osprey]

which collosseum is the best to farm for gems/candies or are they the same? or maybe i should hoard the collosseum keys

[sick sentinel]

Colo2 should be best

Colo3 is more bearable tho since you can safely use midas prayer

[tacit tulip]

Really sums it up. 2 is better but a drain on your sanity

[sick sentinel]

1 run per orb is rough... but them cheeky kebabs

[signal osprey]

Colo 2

[vestal delta]

I think W3 should be better simply because of time and the loot multiplier?
i.e., biggie hours = 1/3 rare drop table for 2 keys
dilapidated slush = 1/2 rare drop table for 3 keys, plus you can do multiple runs per orb

[green eagle]

still going through all the suggestions i haven't read since the last time i was in that chat, but i found this one. i took off the name for some small amount of anonymity, but why on earth would you need a TL;DR for literally one sentence?

[lament jasper]

Who sells items anyways

[green eagle]

i sell some to get them out of my inventory. might as well pay me my pennies 😤

[frail mauve]

...

[signal osprey]

Nobody argues that its less time effective but paying 50% more keys means less loot despite the average run being slightly more valuable due to midas

[lament jasper]

Im in the drop on the ground and leave map type of person

[vestal delta]

I was thinking strictly of this for candy drops

[green eagle]

i do that for keychains now. THANKS LAVA

[signal osprey]

That doesnt matter for candy drops though

The only time rare bags are relevant with DK orb is for breakpoints to guarantee additional drops but candy is hard capped at 1

[vestal delta]

ah I see

[glad crow]

what quick slap level should i aim for

[sick sentinel]

Bob

[frail mauve]

About Infinity

[frail mauve]

I approve this message

[signal osprey]

How can you approve of Bob and encourage infinite quick slap at the same time? The two bubbles are at odds

[sick sentinel]

[frail mauve]

Because bob is life, bob is love.
Quick slap is kinky

[signal osprey]

Quick slap is a crutch

Somebody had to say it

[frail mauve]

Bob likes it that way alright

[signal osprey]

True gamers level quick slap by pushing their minimum bubble levels so nblb hits quick slap more often

[frail mauve]

You my man are completely insane. I like it

[tacit tulip]

You technically do that while getting the rougher bubbles into atom range

I considered doing it but opted for 110 Larry first

[signal osprey]

I still do it even after having everything in atom range for months now

Currently my SB is printing every bug until all bubbles that use them are at 300

[heavy moth]

rip with QS at 4k no way ill ever get it to nblb level XD

[signal osprey]

My nblb is doing work. Got my slap to 253 now

[fast grail]

Quitter talk (actually not since nblb stops after 999)

[uneven violet]

Can’t you atom quick slap to like 4K after getting it to atom range

Wait nice timing for me to say that

[heavy moth]

except if we get a w7 upgrade for nblb so it hit farther 😮

[uneven violet]

And levels by 5

Cause by then atoms will be too easy and op and there will be too big of a gap between boosted and nblb bubbles

[signal osprey]

We're already at that point

[uneven violet]

Imagine 62Q efficiency on logs

[heavy moth]

at 4k i stopped atoming it and started to click it every now and then with prtintds

[uneven violet]

You can legit probably atom 300 times a day

With only like 2 chars sampling

Atoms 👄

[gaunt forge]

whenever it comes to farming 1bil deathnote kills on each mob, do u guys recc to put all ur guys on 1 mob and them afk it or just use candys ?

[sick sentinel]

if you have candies use em

[uneven violet]

Especially probably on w4

Which takes so long

[bronze laurel]

does the talent to link to a 2nd god work ?(ES polytheism)

[sick sentinel]

snake link starts at 10 tho not 0

[vestal delta]

also arctis + goharut doesn't give you div exp outside of lab
arctis + harriep does work though

[lavish cloak]

i have the top row of stamps and the bribes. what's next on the buy order?

[dense prism]

what is the highest possible book lv ?

[lavish cloak]

245 currently

[dense prism]

ty

[sick sentinel]

im going garbage and bottles to juice rando island stuff

[lavish cloak]

so no flawless logic post we are all copying yet like sampling?

[sick sentinel]

i dunno havent seen anything like that

i cant imagine the book is very good but i am curios about it

all stats stamp seems pretty decenet but get expensive

[lavish cloak]

drop chance stamp for 80 is hyper important. gets fat and good

[sick sentinel]

ye i like that one

[tall horizon]

I'm saving for next stamp(300), because stamp.

[lavish cloak]

happy with 5-6 garbage income buff?

[tall horizon]

Yup

After 300 stamp, trash becomes meh

[lavish cloak]

sounds good. a base allstat stamp does indeed seem like a great thing to go for

[signal osprey]

This is my approach too. Gotta play the long game to get full glacial obols

[tall horizon]

After ill dump into bottles/trash and probably slowly work towards nametag.

[signal osprey]

I've only done DR stamp and bribes. Rest has been trash/bottle upgrades

[lavish cloak]

trash to bottle income seems important for the other upgrades to the other island

[sick sentinel]

havent gotten any drops since events started yet so it's bound to hit soon right

[signal osprey]

10 glacials for the full set is the true W6 prep goal

[lavish cloak]

glacials are the event boss square?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

We also better get more hyper obols packs too so I can get full dice as well

I want the complete minmax DR set for W6 statue farming

[tall horizon]

Hyper dice hate me

[lavish cloak]

did you get all hyper damage?

[signal osprey]

I've had decent luck with my hypers but unfortunately I missed a set or two of them because I have a smooth brain

[lavish cloak]

hourly clicks do be like that

[signal osprey]

I could potentially have had a full family page of dice by now if the packs I missed had the same luck as the packs I've bought

[tall horizon]

No, gotten a handful though. Im 1 shy of a full set of mk, but only 1 dice.

[signal osprey]

I'm missing 5 dice for fam page

[lavish cloak]

i didn't think the allstat was too much of a sacrifice to see all hyper

[signal osprey]

Only 2 mk though which I wouldnt mind getting more of

[lavish cloak]

gmush farmer did appreciate all the multikill

[signal osprey]

I do have 5 all stat I could use just to make the shiny red page

But DR

Honestly I'm just glad that out of the 3 sets I've bought I have 1 total sword obol. Got my +1 slab and then havent wasted a single obol since

[dapper prism]

Main stat might net you a tiny bit more than those swords btw

[lavish cloak]

yeah, the sword is the most disappointing of all options

[sick sentinel]

[signal osprey]

Oof

[sick sentinel]

got 2 dr tho

[signal osprey]

Now that I've said something though I probably roll swords only next rotation lol

[hybrid spindle]

do any of the new classes beat bc in terms of kills/h?

[lavish cloak]

the rngesus giveth what it giveth and thou must accept thine rolls and contemplate other problems that thou canst control

[lavish cloak]

i'm trying my best to imagine what class BC is

[signal osprey]

bubo

[hybrid spindle]

bubonic conjuror

[lavish cloak]

contruror is slightly inferior

[hybrid spindle]

to?

[lavish cloak]

just making fun of the spelling

[hybrid spindle]

so, anyone faster?

[lavish cloak]

bubo is alchemy bossman. ES and SB both can get afk kills higher than bubo afk kills. for active, it's probably ES.

[signal osprey]

Technically no as far as pure active kph goes but it really just depends on what your goal is

[dapper prism]

But you wouldnt active gmush if thats the purpose of the question.

[hybrid spindle]

just getting 5000 skull kills done the fastest in rift

[dapper prism]

Yay 🥳
https://i.imgur.com/Sxq8mhr.png

[sick sentinel]

dont tell me what to do

[signal osprey]

Yeah that rift trial is probably best on bubo

[hybrid spindle]

550 ^^ how i've falled behind 👀

[sick sentinel]

grind time

[signal osprey]

Nobody can stop me from doing DK on gmush

[dapper prism]

My GT is "only" 5.9k

Should have definetely active bubo a bit more first xD

[twin token]

I thought u needed 20k gt for level 500

[sick sentinel]

just got mine to 8k, leveling it is slow now

[hybrid spindle]

that depends... i came back in hopes that micromanagement has been fixed but so far I've seen nothing of the sorts

[twin token]

Never trusting griffy again

Maybe he meant vman?

[sick sentinel]

remember, griffy is just another guy in the end

[lavish cloak]

only 50 more levels till you max out sailing artifact gains

[hybrid spindle]

actually that's wrong. I've seen one thing. The automation of traps....but that hasn't been the biggest issue even in the past. nonetheless, I like it

[twin token]

His number is big on pixel tho so he's a god basically

[signal osprey]

Griffy content is catered to a more casual group of players. His info isnt very relevant to a lot of people in this discord

[lavish cloak]

his guide videos are great for mids like me

[tall horizon]

na, im 5k family with only 6k gt

his stuff is grain of salt

just assumes what he thinks is fact a lot

[lavish cloak]

but yeah, the theoretical stuff for near-endgame is best discussed here

[twin token]

Yh learned he's not always right

[dapper prism]

20k, that would be rough

[signal osprey]

I'm doing 20k now

Get me out

[sacred verge]

i got to 505 with syb 1k GT

sub*

[twin token]

20k gt was rhe first thing I saw when I first opened up endgame chat lol

[lavish cloak]

auto hourly alchemy clicks when

[sick sentinel]

ppl lived on bubo in w4 wasteland

[signal osprey]

I like hourly clicks more than I like GT

[dapper prism]

Now that would be the real QoL

[lavish cloak]

i liked it when idleon was an idle game i could check on every 4 hours

[dapper prism]

Dootinator 2.0 companion?

[lavish cloak]

season 2 companion release

[tall horizon]

still can be 🤷

[signal osprey]

Auto bubble is companion batch 3

[dapper prism]

Alchydoot

[twin token]

I kinda wish we could Undeveloped alch bubbles and prayers for like a fraction of the resources

[signal osprey]

Batch 2 is for split screen active play

[dapper prism]

Split screen all alts at once?

[tall horizon]

you're making the choice to have Idleon be more active, you can make the choice to make it more idle as well 😛

[twin token]

Unlevel*

[dapper prism]

Multi-active? 😮

[signal osprey]

You never have to choose between bubo and DK again

[sacred verge]

the loss from dropping active is massive tho

[twin token]

Imagine 2 dks and bubo all farming money

[lavish cloak]

yeah, i could just not check in. i'm just reaching for my dopamine like an addict right now. the difference between me and thecontract is about 4k hourly clicks and a few completionist chores

[signal osprey]

You can still active without checking the game every hour

[sacred verge]

true

[dapper prism]

But.,.. I gotta click my abilities non stop!

[lavish cloak]

and i want my numbers go up!

[twin token]

I wish I never found out abt minmaxing bc now it's like an addiction I can't stop

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

[dreamy rapids]

[signal osprey]

Embrace the clicks

[dreamy rapids]

Damn that's hourly?

[dapper prism]

Sooo any opinions on #💖future-content-blog
What it'll be?

[twin token]

I don't care what it is I just want it released so I can finally do td

[signal osprey]

Yeah and thats on a normal DR/money setup for bubo too not even a meme build lol

[dreamy rapids]

One of the updates of all time

[dapper prism]

wait why wait for td, is it related to td?

[lavish cloak]

A DISTRACTION FROM ACTIVE CRANIUM COOKING GRIND

https://tenor.com/view/feed-the-void-black-cat-snack-hungry-cat-hungry-gif-306965068353833327

[twin token]

Part of the update has high performance td

No numbers

[lavish cloak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1034167878775222333/1126990745040080938/BuboEndGame.gif

[frail mauve]

#💖future-content-blog message

[signal osprey]

I feel like its gonna be similar to the task system in IS

[dreamy rapids]

You mean the one in the ball machine

[dapper prism]

Oh nice, so 1 second ingame will no longer be 10-15 seconds

[signal osprey]

I just hope this "very hard to do list" is hard

[dapper prism]

or Mastery task list (without the tree)

[signal osprey]

Yeah I was thinking the mastery list

[dreamy rapids]

If I see another fucking get Jackpot I am gonna lose it

[twin token]

My phone can do wave 100+ of td without becoming a safety hazard

[dapper prism]

doing td on a phone, now that by itself is a safety hazard..

[dreamy rapids]

I can think of some hard to do list

Get sausage to level 30
Get Bagur
Breed Hedgehog

[dapper prism]

Get a boat's sailing speed to 500m

[twin token]

Yh I actually will get burned if I try to do high enough td

[dreamy rapids]

Unlock the entire Cog Table

[signal osprey]

If thats the lava definition of hard then I'm gonna finish the whole list on release

[dreamy rapids]

I mean

We are endgame

[twin token]

Idk I'm midgame and can get level 30 sausage easy

[signal osprey]

Thats not a reason he cant make challenges that are hard for endgame

[lavish cloak]

hard for the 0.1% is a pipedream for the playerbase at large. i wonder if it'll be a chore list or a pseudo time-gated progression chain

[signal osprey]

Having aspirational content is fine

[dapper prism]

well need some semi-easy or time gated stuff too

e.g. hedgehog is a decent idea. not "hard" by itself, just means you have to have done breeding and stuff for a while to have it

speaking of, tyvm i need to change my shinies.. forgot about that

[lavish cloak]

i was hoping he'd release some rift stuff that's just impossible like rift 73 bonuses

[signal osprey]

Plus it could have increasing difficulty too

[twin token]

Idleon is kinda hard to make content endgamers can't finish within a day without making an entirely new system for tho

[dreamy rapids]

I could also say get every skill mastery to level 1000

[signal osprey]

No reason there cant be one or two sets of tasks that are just insane compared to the rest

[vale wadi]

why cant I do 2 at once?

[twin token]

Probs why he's been doing so many new content updates like island expeditions and weekly bosses

[lavish cloak]

you mean like construction 2500?

[dapper prism]

probably have one on page 2?

[dreamy rapids]

Or cooking 1000

[dapper prism]

Sadly impossible

[signal osprey]

With that attitude sure

[lavish cloak]

there will be a pet for that

[twin token]

Maybe baloonable when w7 levels come out

[dreamy rapids]

Yeah I can see that

Considering I can easily Baloon Worship

[signal osprey]

For what its worth 2500 con is about as possible as 1k cooking lol

[dapper prism]

Got all my "World 6?" pets to lvl 5 while i was gone for the 2 weeks.
https://i.imgur.com/ap3ZXdR.png

Wondering if i should just keep them to lvl 6 xD

[lavish cloak]

new balloons, 28 more skill exp multipliers, new meals that encourage multiple characters ladle farming at once. it's just a matter of time

[dreamy rapids]

I am putting those on a hold

I wonder if he gonna make another set of pets

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/its-just-a-matter-of-time-my-friend-eric-cartman-stan-marsh-kyle-broflovski-kenny-mccormick-gif-22244995

[dreamy rapids]

New legendary pet: Baba Yaga

Cut all ability cooldown by 50%

[dapper prism]

"Remove global cooldown for abilities/animations"

Get those insta rezz's going

but cdr would be nice

[signal osprey]

That would be the biggest nerf possible

DK orb in shambles

[lavish cloak]

lava math says this is 16%

[dapper prism]

Depends if it gets reworked

like es mk

[dreamy rapids]

But Cranium go ups to 11

And Printing go brrrrrr

[signal osprey]

DK is better than bubo

So you're buffing the character you spend 10% of your time on to nerf the one you spend the other 90% on

Seems like a nerf to me

[dreamy rapids]

Ok how about that

All the items on first page are effected by multikill

[marsh terrace]

What's the best way to farm 100K statue drops on siege breaker? Currently just active AFK on W3 mobs for the base statue drops, but wondering if a skill might be better or something

[sick sentinel]

candy dreadlo

or whatever ore you have 100% eff on

[marsh terrace]

Okay, that's what I did on my BB

Good to know, thanks m8!

[dapper prism]

As a side note, those w3's you would do active ES.

[marsh terrace]

Yeah, I have been for the 20K of those statues

[dapper prism]

Way2slow to do it on another class, so even if you're trying to do 2 things at once. you're slowing yourself down so drastically that it wouldnt be worth it

[marsh terrace]

Only have construction left, but otherwise ES has been a saving grace for that long grind

[warm ocean]

what's the limit for spiketrap surprise?

[marsh terrace]

I am mainly trying to get more of those crit damage statues from the quest

[dapper prism]

Also remember to slow deposit them to get the most out of your yellow bubble (xp skip on lvl up)
More info on statues in pins.

[sick sentinel]

you dont need to do that anymore, you can drag and drop a whole stack to get the proprer benefit now

[marsh terrace]

Not super Discord savvy, how do I check said pins?

Thanks again for all of your help!

[dapper prism]

oh wow really?

[sick sentinel]

just dont do deposit all button with statues in char inventory

cause that doesnt count the onyx bonus

[dapper prism]

Must have missed it while i was gone, that's nice