lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[grizzled elk]

Ghosts do good after a few of them get moving around

[split orbit]

just got arrowhead relic what should i have more minimum chest if i only check in daily

[grizzled elk]

It will be better in wurms too, but I agree the difference will be more noticeable on oranges if you're just going for CC time

[clear quartz]

oh yeah, ghost only seems beyond fine, i feel so dumb lol

[feral hemlock]

Guys what shinies do you focus later on?

[vagrant mountain]

star signs and base eff

[clear quartz]

i need to work on mine badly

[feral hemlock]

Maybe you know if 100 is enough to start depositing statues or should i raise this a little bit higher?

[vagrant mountain]

yeah 100 is good, you dont get 10% chance for +3 if you have 110%

[feral hemlock]

Oh cool, thanks!

[whole epoch]

I'm told I need multikill b4 I even continue pushing thru w5. My damage and stats are pretty crap though. Is it my gear? Skills? Alchemy, stamps, etc?

[fast grail]

Would say about 90-95% alchemy

[whole epoch]

Level wise or bubbles?

[vagrant mountain]

yes

[pearl cedar]

12k more w3 leaves and I get to move on

[vagrant mountain]

for green stack?

[pearl cedar]

Then got like 5m w4 leaves and I can go back to beans

[vagrant mountain]

nice

i need like 12k more glass shards

[pearl cedar]

Going for 210 multi?

[vagrant mountain]

yea

[pearl cedar]

Fun grind

[vagrant mountain]

i was doing ES for glass shards but then i realized theres no rush

after 210 multitool, im just kinda grinding beans for 300 statues and then idk

clicking bubbles til lil bro breaks free

[broken light]

What do I focus on alch and stamps?

[vagrant mountain]

all

[pearl cedar]

300 statue gonna take so long

[fast grail]

It might seem like a meme, but when we say all, we genuinly mean ALL, bonuses all eventually add up, just generally progress your account

[broken light]

Rn im going from top to bottom

[fast grail]

How long does it take? Saw someone mention 800 hours of beans but wasnt sure

[broken light]

and alch is just slow

[clear quartz]

just noticed my div statues are well behind the other two so i guess i likely wont be finishing up the w5 ones tonight, ah well

[pearl cedar]

Yeah contract said it was about 20m statues to go from 200 to 300 with onyx bonus. Get aboout 25k/hr so roughly 800 hours

[serene kiln]

Is it better to have all slots of the forge filled or only a few?

[fast grail]

No reason to not have all slots filled

[pearl cedar]

Guess I'll go for 300 statue grind then just do plunderous until my eyes bleed

[prime sierra]

How do you get 25k an hour =I, Im on like 400 an hour, do you just have huge multikill % or something?

[fast grail]

Good DK with DR is how those numbers happen

[pearl cedar]

20.x dr, DK and chocco chip all that is really needed

[feral hemlock]

Huge dr

[prime sierra]

Ah, my DR is 8.3 and i do have choco chip

Thanks, will see what i can do boost it up

[pearl cedar]

Oh and good crystal spawn rate

[feral hemlock]

Buddha only oceanman statues left to onyx. Should i go all out with vman with high dr for cards+ statues?

[prime sierra]

Mines 1/68 atm, I dont have the thing to increase the card power

[pearl cedar]

Uh I just put everyone on fruitflies

But if no doot, just candy it on vman

[feral hemlock]

True 😦 idk rly whats better a lot of chars/ or candies for quicker 5stars

I have doot

[pearl cedar]

If you're not doing anything important took me just a couple days I think

[feral hemlock]

Im still going for eclipse, didnt spent any candy on it lol, so only w1 done

[pearl cedar]

With doot id probably just candy eclipse skulls. i did pre-doot and it wasnt crazy expensive like 5-6k candies. With all the extra bonuses now I would guess even with a moderate late game account could do in like 3k

[feral hemlock]

Maybe my priorities should be to use uo my candies as you say also, leave chars eclipsing w5 cause cannot candy that.

[pearl cedar]

I'm of the current mindset, anything that can be candied should be candied

[feral hemlock]

Yeah should be enough candies

[pearl cedar]

For sure

[feral hemlock]

Also im doing it on my sb, because smelting gold bars for nuggets

Like i have 100m gold bars currently

[pearl cedar]

Yeah be sure to use worship charge though

[feral hemlock]

Oh right

[pure yarrow]

its dk sandy pots for dice obols, es for pop right?

[tiny laurel]

Is DK only on pots for multikill. Id assume theres better maps with more mobs

[pearl cedar]

Tysons is better but not by much and no glass shards

[sharp vine]

Flat space to best utilize statue shockwave, glass shards for stamp, and I think Orb DR ends up with a better top-end than ES wormhole

[pearl cedar]

If you're going for glass shards ES outfarms DK like 10 to 1

[tiny laurel]

I get why DK is better for the obols but it still takes so long

[naive shard]

Can you get chocolate chip from the gem shop purchase?

Damn guess I’m just unlucky

[pearl cedar]

Only takes so long until it doesn't

I.e. when you finish farming obols for dr it will be much quicker

[tiny laurel]

Ill get to active dk farming eventually

or would it be better to improve DR on ES rn for green stacks

[pearl cedar]

I mean dr is pretty much account wide, so you improve dr on any char you improve it on all chars

[valid moon]

If it takes make 15 days to fight snakes on 3 characters to get 5k power statues do you think it would hinder me to get the onyx stones? Or would it be good anything to get onyx?

[valid moon]

Does Plunderous SB help me get statues faster??

[valid moon]

Do you know of a way to speed up the smelting bars?

[vagrant mountain]

damn bro relax

[vagrant mountain]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[feral hemlock]

Yes claim afk time of 2mins on archers with maxed talent. Or 1 h candies.

[icy bone]

Set up your DK, up your crystal rate and drop rate before really thinking about try harding to unlock onyx statues

[valid moon]

Wow this is super helpful. Thank you very much for pointing me in this direction.

[valid moon]

Wow the SB has a talent that speeds up the smelting of bars. That's interesting. Thank you. I've been waiting weeks to get 50k starlite for my vman punching gloves. This will be helpful in crafting the red gear from W5 too now that I can finally focus on dreadlo bars. I just crafted my new gloves today.

[valid moon]

Thank you for the tips. I wasn't sure how to farm crystals but I heard about people doing that before. This is helpful information. I didn't realize the beans were best for power statues. That sounds odd because they don't drop them. But I guess the strategy really is to farm crystals instead.

[mystic stump]

anyone have the vman bloodmarrow chart?

[icy bone]

on the vman wiki page you can input the talent level to get the base value par meals and put the value to the exponent of your total meal level if you want more precision

[mystic stump]

ah i just wanted the picture to show the scaling for a friend

[valid moon]

You might find this Drop Rate calcuator helpful to increase your DR.

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1141880730411094106

[true obsidian]

i just notice that we still doesn't have w5 td prayers...

[worn frost]

Off topic, how long did it take you guys to candy 1b DN

[true obsidian]

DN?

[worn frost]

death note

[true obsidian]

depend on mobs?

[worn frost]

no i mean how many hours in real life

[true obsidian]

some mobs you can have 6~7m kill per hours, some doesn't even get to 1m kill

[worn frost]

i have around 5000-6000 hours of candy so i might do it but i'm busy for a bit today and tomorrow so was wondering

[true obsidian]

as i said, it still depend on mobs

[worn frost]

ahh ye i guess, i've been told it can take up to a day of candying. Minimum of aroung 16 hours

[true obsidian]

not that much

maybe you can done in 1-2 hours

[valid moon]

Is there a way to see all past Arcade upgrades?

[icy bone]

Couldn't find the infographic but made this hope it helps x)

[worn frost]

really? I am going from w2-4?

Well thank you very much for that help

[true obsidian]

if you have enough candy to use, i guess it will do

[worn frost]

also, is this the best chips for afk. Can't find the sheet for it

[true obsidian]

but please try to 100M kill them first

[worn frost]

ye i have, well. I have w2 done, imma do 100m on w3 with candy then go back and do 1b

[true obsidian]

don't just straight up use candy in every mob until it reach 1B ~~

[worn frost]

ye no, i am gonna candy them all to 100m then go back and 1b then

[true obsidian]

tbh, some mobs you can got 5m+ kill per hours, just afk them, don't waste your candy

[worn frost]

i can get 5m on most mobs i think but i need as much damage as i can get as i'm resampling everyone soon including Vman

and if i run out i will have more damage so it'll be easier to finish w4

and candy is easy af nowadays

[true obsidian]

with those high kill/h mobs, you can let them afk and onl at the end of the day if you so busy

[worn frost]

wait what sorry, i don't understand.

afk for 1b or 100m

[mystic stump]

Ur a god, appreciate it

[lyric sequoia]

Do that on BB for the superchows rather than anything else

[stoic silo]

what's worth buying? I got 1 void coin?

[worn frost]

Dn way better I’ve been told as it makes the 100m on BB a lot easier

[lyric sequoia]

Eh, just have enough kph to not worry about that, that’s what I did

I don’t bother candying either since all 10 of my characters are out doing stuff so can get BB meowing ahead of the others and the others doing eclipses. Eclipse is t that big a deal so no real point rushing it

[pure meadow]

what are the recommended obols for V-Man? Luck, droprate or Multikill?

[teal lynx]

Definitely not Multikill. It is flat multikill and not multikill per tier
I assume u use Drop Rate if you actively farm stuff like bosses for rare drops and Luk if you need more Dmg (for multikill tier in speedruns for example)

[fast grail]

Think at this point vman is just obol set storage for me

[frail basalt]

If my afk gains ratee are higher than 100%, do i get more from afk fighting than active fighting then?

[teal lynx]

Nah. Active on DK, ES and Bubo is just too good
Maybe on BM you would gain more than fighting Active, but lets be real if you active BM you are doomed from the start

DK Orb, ES Portal and Bubo Respawn/CC are insane boosts to active play you won't get while afk

[frail basalt]

Ok, tysm

[true saddle]

what does mantra do i put all my chars on it and im not getting 10 xp per hour

[feral hemlock]

Did you guys allowed your ES to be #1 in worship levels?

Or you kept Vman as #1?

[eager zinc]

Does infinite stars work if I havent unlocked them but they are still stared?

[teal lynx]

I let my ES be #1. Worship Efficiency doesn't affect Souls that much

[raven fog]

Is there a may lvl for shiny pets

So like lvl 10 or something

[tacit stag]

When you claim mantra style char all your characters gets 1 point but the afk gains are just for 1

[true saddle]

I don't understand?

Is it for active?

[teal lynx]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[sacred verge]

funny how my SB gets more KPH at wurms than woodmush

[true saddle]

That's odd but thanks!

[opaque sun]

woodmush is a bad mob layout map

[sacred verge]

yeye just a bit funny

DN is soo much better in w1 aswell (full eclipse) and w5 i got none

[neat barn]

thats great dude, well done

[zinc torrent]

How's there people with much worse bubbles than me, lacking cooking meals that give bonus attack damage, similar stamps to me, worse gear than me, but yet they deal almost triple my max damage?

[sacred verge]

impossible to say

but 100% you are lacking something

but if you send youre IE i can look quick to see if i can notice something "you are missing"

[hallow wing]

Where's the best place to grind W2 statues?

[sacred verge]

id do sandy pots as u need glass shards bad anyway

[hallow wing]

Oh ok

[sacred verge]

you will never have to much glass shards 😄

[jagged relic]

Is there a best spice setup? The last one I seen was this but its so slow and shit

[opaque sun]

for the first few lanes that is the best as speed diminishes hard anyway

Dont look at how slow the bar raises, look at the number of spices you see when claiming

[bold quiver]

@signal osprey duuude ..... i did it????? now i wil have to find out if that is enough for the reduction or not lol . Maybe its 417999

gotta wiat for the discount stuff to stack.

[mild merlin]

Everyone to elites soon ™️

I actually only had 3 chars who didn't get elites left

(well besides mman )

Ig I'll push everyone to chiz afterwards

[hallow wing]

Wheres the best place to grind cranium cooking in W5/4? Not sure if I can do all of the places in w5 yet

[tacit tulip]

Wurms -> Citringes -> Moltis -> W4 floms -> W4 cans

[uncut hull]

what does shifting time forward by 24 hours even do lmao

[tacit tulip]

basically triggers a new day

so stuff like no bubble left behind procs

[hallow wing]

Ah, Is there any changes I need to make to my build for that?

[tacit tulip]

you basically only want these 5 skills. If you're on a map you're clearing very fast, you don't want the last one

iirc aura/respawn can be swapped in certain circumstances but I can never remember what

[opaque sun]

it technically doesnt move the timer, but more like gives every single daily related bonuses

[hallow wing]

Oh ok, thanks!

[tacit tulip]

The skills not listed you generally want off the bar completely: the blue light strike, the shaman vials, teleport, the Bubo syringe skill

Each causes the build to mess up a bit, and stops you casting aura/respawn which slows you down

[misty spindle]

I just got tiger god, have no idea what to do now, do I put everyone on elephant god and forget about divinity for some time?

[hallow wing]

Had to stick to flombeiges, but I got like 56k seconds

[haughty sedge]

Try swapping aura/respawn to see how many seconds you get. As i was at Wurms and after i swapped them and put respawn first i was able to get 180k

[misty spindle]

Who do I put the tiger god on? Who is the best for him?

[haughty sedge]

I think it was either vman or sb

[tacit tulip]

I stuck mine on vman as he just lives in the skilling mines

[misty spindle]

I got no idea what I need to do next, Im so lost

[pulsar cliff]

I'm running low on balloons for my VMan summoning levelling 😦

[misty spindle]

the only thing that comes to mind is elephant god for gaming and sailing since Im lacking there

[haughty sedge]

Start maxing vials

[pulsar cliff]

Omni is one of the best. Procs for refinery and 3D printer are greeat.

[misty spindle]

I cant do that, I cant print that many materials, dont even have atoms yet

[tacit tulip]

in that case, "alchemy"

[misty spindle]

Should I maybe link my ES talent with tiger god?

does that work?

[tacit tulip]

look at your bubbles that are very easy to level up. This is typically: Logs, ore, bugs, fish, and sometimes mob mats.

Start taking printing samples (use royal sampler) for the skilling stuff. Use ES to farm mob mats if needed

your goal here is to level up these easy bubbles so that the lab bonus, "no bubble left behind" levels the HARD bubbles for you, without spending your resources: Salt, worship souls, trapping critters, cooking spices.

As you progress, your account will get stronger in all areas. This will make your samples bigger, which lets you level the bubbles further, and it's an almost endless cycle towards greatness.

As you get stronger it'll be easier to level other things: Stamps, craft better gear, and generally do anything you need.

3eventually you graduate from that to atoms

[misty spindle]

my baseline level for bubbles is 35

[next locust]

I'd rather keep him on printing gods instead. Work on that construction to get that atom production going

[misty spindle]

I havent even thought about rabbit god honestly

Ill switch some of my skilling characters to him when I get atom, in about a week for now Ill just elephant most of them

[pulsar cliff]

I haven't resampled in a month. I know what I'm doing this morning. Trying to remember everything I need to equip lol

[feral hemlock]

So is your wizard worship lv> vman?

[pulsar cliff]

Mine? Nah

[tacit tulip]

honestly unless you're gonna baloon it to keep it ahead, it's not worth the effort

[feral hemlock]

I want to use my wiz to vial13 the souls...

[tacit tulip]

You need to keep levelling vman to buff series epoch but the eff gains from hand isn't as big due to how worship/trapping scales with eff

[pulsar cliff]

My wiz is 129, my Vman is 131

[feral hemlock]

Thats what im thinking

[tacit tulip]

I rerolled my second bubo to an ES yeterday so once I have the books levelled I'm gonna start using that one to keep the bonus for a while

[sick orchid]

What is a good dmg to beat last ES rift?

[lusty bough]

hey guys, a quick question. what's your go-to character for the rifts (at least to be able to pass rift 1)?
my main character is beast master

[tacit tulip]

about 120b on the damage sheet, high talent levels are essential. Use the bottom left tiny platform to abuse aoe skills on the portal mobs

[sick orchid]

Thank you

[misty spindle]

probably bubo or DK

[tacit tulip]

your edit concerns me 😄 BM is one of the worst characters to play actively

[misty spindle]

I used my ES like a dumbass and needed a lot more time

[lusty bough]

i know, but i can't be bothered to change. everything is pretty much focused of it

[lusty bough]

well damn, that'll be a strugle

[tacit tulip]

eventually you won't have much choice - the other classes, minus BB, are just better

and BM is my fave class style-wise

[lusty bough]

maaaaan, ok. i guess i have to put everyone to w5 then

[tacit tulip]

sorry to bring the bad news 😄

[next locust]

BM doesn't.. umm.. generate much lag so he's got that going at least

[lusty bough]

lol

[pulsar cliff]

Are they mining for statues?

[tacit tulip]

yeah

[pulsar cliff]

kay was like hm.

[tacit tulip]

4 characters left to do

[pulsar cliff]

Haven't even started that particular quest chain really.

[next locust]

How many statues do you get per hour on dreadlo? I still need to finish the grind on my lab slaves :/

[dense prism]

is there a different between a 10k pet power mimic or a 1k ? except hp

[tacit tulip]

it'll technically do more damage too

but you're not taking mimic for the damage

so you can get away with a baby one yeah

[dense prism]

cool

ty

so pet power only matters for burger and the bone dude ?

[tacit tulip]

More or less

I think looter can matter for stuff like dropping nukes in spice battles

[pulsar cliff]

Woul like some feedback!

My currently hourly clicks:

Roid Ragin'
Hearty Diggy

Swift Stepping
Hammer Hammer
Call Me Ash

Stable Jenius
Name I Guess
Le Brain Tools
Cookin Roadkill
Nickle of Wisdom
Severapurple

I'm probably going to be dropping Hearty Diggy because I just got it to 49%, anything obvious o swap in / out?

[signal osprey]

Never stop

[rare grove]

I saw somewhere a table which showed for which character I should go for molten or divine. Anybody has it? 🙂

[signal osprey]

Also you could consider adding stronk tools and larry for plat/dementia if you have the slots but neither of those will compete with hearty diggy

[paper sail]

FMJ is good to mix in. Not really a ressom to stop hearty diggy until 99% bubble value though, unless this is just a temporary swap

[pulsar cliff]

Haha okay fair enough.

I think I can add one ... nope I can add two.

Yeah I hadn't even started takling the bug sections

[paper sail]

If you're looking for a log slot, I would drop Call Me Ash instead

[signal osprey]

Generally any active class will want divine boot/helmet with magma chest and legs and then afk farmers will want the opposite

Could also go full divine on afk farmers if you want the extra drop rate instead of a bit more damage

[paper sail]

The bubble scales linearly, but trapping itself doesn't scale well with efficiency so kinda meh returns after the first few hundred levels

[pulsar cliff]

Ah I was wondering why. Okay, makes enough sense.

[signal osprey]

I've already been replacing call me ash with maple/dandi logs when I claim long omnis and use printer go brr

Once I can single slot hourly maple logs I think I'll drop call me ash full time until I get maple to at least 95%

[paper sail]

I took the maple bubble to 90%, didn't realize how easy it was going to be

[signal osprey]

Still gonna be another 3 weeks I think before I can actually make the swap though. I need a nearly maxed gold skull to hit 1b

[paper sail]

Oh, for sure, 1b maples per hour is tough but not too terrible to get every 2 or 3 hours

Did you sleep even less than me btw, or are we in opposite time zones?

[signal osprey]

Probably the first because I never sleep enough

Could be both though

[paper sail]

Haha

[signal osprey]

Although I think I actually did get 8 hours last night which is kinda unusual

[elfin cape]

Anyone else didn't get a single daily W2 boss fight reset?

I tried everything already, different devices, browser, reinstalling, checking integrity

[feral hemlock]

Finally im in the T's while eclipsing w3

[paper sail]

Baby makes me waste more time trying to sleep. Went about 9pm, now not quite 7am, yet only slept truly about 6 of those 10 hours.

[signal osprey]

Different devices might be your problem. Some mechanics kinda get skipped if you regularly swap devices to prevent you from somehow getting it on both PC and mobile

I've gotten every reset this week except one and it was a day I did PO6 which I do on mobile

Play on steam aside from that

[elfin cape]

I usually play only on my PC, but because I never got a reset I tried on other devices

[paper sail]

I've only had a single reset each week, exclusively steam

[pastel bramble]

[feral hemlock]

Poggers

[pastel bramble]

now hopefully to trigger 3 mails day 😒

[tacit tulip]

that reminds me, today is 11->12 day on snail

[pastel bramble]

ill trade u, gimme nuts ill give u snail 😄

[elfin cape]

Damn, that's nutty

[pastel bramble]

never enough nuts

[pulsar cliff]

Awwwww yeah.

Old v New

[tacit tulip]

well it didn't reset at least

[boreal sonnet]

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[pastel bramble]

oh yh... i need to redo samples last time i did it was pre-pet update 😮

[boreal sonnet]

If you upgrade it to level 101, will you have 1% chance to get two mails in a day?

[pastel bramble]

3 mails

100% = 2 mails guranteed

also, bears beets battlestar Galactica

https://tenor.com/view/jim-dwight-identity-thief-geek-battlestargalactica-gif-4700649

[dry musk]

Can anybodey help me witch twine is best for witch Spot? For sampels?i cant finde the post

[dreamy rapids]

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT ANOTHER BLOQ

I fucking hate companions

[paper sail]

#bot-commands !fishchart

Although I think Platinum Twine is better for the right 2, that image looks out of date

[tacit tulip]

yeah the image is definitely out of date

I just kinda eyeball it these days

Pick the thing that raises the % of your desired fish highest

[paper sail]

This was the image previously in tips-n-tricks. It got removed after the author left the server

[surreal oxide]

In the gaming skill does long do anything? Any reason to play it at all???

[surreal oxide]

Oh there’s a multiplier

[paper sail]

Not sure if you're asking about Log or Pong lol

[surreal oxide]

Pong sorry auto correct

[tacit tulip]

there's also an achievement

which is hell on earth to get

[surreal oxide]

Dam

[paper sail]

Yeah, no way lmao. Think my highscore is 4k

[misty spindle]

Can someone look at my IE and tell what I should be going for next?? https://stefan5.idleonefficiency.com

[tacit tulip]

there's a hidden score multiplier that makes 25 quite possible if the game doesn't screw you

the faster the game runs, the more poinst you get

at like 15k points you get 2k for a goal

[paper sail]

ES doesn't mess with my game that bad, but Pong for some reason absolutely destroys it. Goes to 1fps after 4 or 5 goals

Absolutely unplayable

[cerulean hemlock]

My RNG is alot worse tbf

[paper sail]

I also just pulled a Bloque, though it is "only" my 3rd or 4th lol

[tacit tulip]

Idid eventually break the sheep streak

[dreamy rapids]

I still don't have Sheepie

I am so close to buy green gems

[safe harness]

just seeing if im missing something with w1-3 boss keys, used like 2 months on nightmare bosses, got rank 1 nightmare chizoar and rank 3 on amarok and effaunt...how do you even get to rank 5 eventually for card drops? do you just go to gold star and cardifier up for nightmare bosses or is there some hidden way to farm keys?

[dreamy rapids]

Just cause I am so tired of it

[paper sail]

I did buy green gems specifically for Sheepie and got it on the first try

My alt pulled 3 beans, then 6 moltis. It has been A Time ™️

[dreamy rapids]

On one side I don't have any financial problem to spend money

[tacit tulip]

If your DR/CDR is high enough boss will drop multiples of cards which helps a lot
Keys can be farmed in colo, particularly in w2/3
Cardify 5* lol it aint worth the grind

[cerulean hemlock]

Whoops.

[dreamy rapids]

On the other side pets are scummy as hell

[cerulean hemlock]

WHOOPS

[safe harness]

thanks, does DR also effect cards? i though card DR was separate?

[tacit tulip]

it does!

[cerulean hemlock]

Help

[tacit tulip]

It's why ES is so good at monster cards, the DR bonus from portal works on the cards

[safe harness]

o wow, thanks! ill hold off the grind....side question on gem farming...ive heard of people endlessly farming bosses...is there a DR threshold where you always get a key back on normal version of bosses?

[tacit tulip]

Nah key is independent

but as mentioned earlier, people farm w2/3 colo for keys/candy

so it's very easy to get a lot of keys

you can also repeat PO box 6 to generate colo tickets

[cerulean hemlock]

Mhmm

[safe harness]

gotcha, thanks

[cerulean hemlock]

W2 colo only gets candy

Right?

[tacit tulip]

Ah does slush not drop candy? Shows how myuch attention I pay

[cerulean hemlock]

Or is it that W2 has higher drops

[tacit tulip]

So farm pens -> do PO 6 -> do colo -> Do bosses = infinite gems

not fast gems, but gems nonetheless

[misty spindle]

where do you farm pens?

and why PO 6?

[signal osprey]

The average expected candy per run is the same in each colo because all minibosses have the same rare drop table

But W2 cost the least tickets so its more per ticket

[runic girder]

Crystal mobs and po6 for the colo tickets

[pearl cedar]

W4 colo is the only way to realistically have a modicum of a chance of finishing meals. But you lose out on 2-3x candy

[signal osprey]

Finishing meals

[tacit tulip]

PO6 ios the only post office order that can give colo tickets

[misty spindle]

is DK best for farming pens?

[celest scroll]

whats the strat in early gaming, I have the spinkler but saving up 3mill seems like its gonna be hard

[pulsar cliff]

Don't you get way more if you stick your BB into the kitchen?

[pearl cedar]

Harvest a lot

[vale wadi]

how many days did it take for you to get the last mutation at gaming?

[pearl cedar]

BB at max gives 4k ladles a day. You can pretty reliably do 50-100 tickets a day. Which basically doubles your ladle game

[iron citrus]

any advice on Regen rate for liquid on alc?

im getting 12 per caldren atm - camping bubo so spending all on regen

[safe harness]

im not there yet, but my understanding is that game changes when you get 200 talent tentacle on bubo and can active CC endlessly, until then you just do what you can

[iron citrus]

just been to Lab and turned off 5x capacity - now 17 each

[pearl cedar]

Looking back through my chats. I got evergreen on 12/28 and chem on 1/6

[vale wadi]

how so quick:P

[pearl cedar]

I think back then I was basically doing like 1-3 plant clicks and try to evolve

And make sure you're using kitsune

[safe harness]

the advice i found for the last mutation is to turn on cat rock if you can check every 3 hours or so, and just smash that research every .5%

im currently also on that last mutation grind

[pearl cedar]

.5% is too high

[safe harness]

ah k, what is ideal?

[pearl cedar]

. 1 lol

[somber sparrow]

with 200 tent you get to activate cc every 10-15 minutes - pretty far from endless still 😄

[surreal oxide]

trying to get all onyhx statues and max as many alchemy vials as possible b4 I start depsotiing statues.

Any tips on how to get max vial for the fishing kraken? Would candy be a waste there?

[pearl cedar]

The drop off for gene to evo% is ridiculous

[somber sparrow]

print them

[surreal oxide]

my print on it is slow lool

[vale wadi]

yeah my highest is now 0,7 if lucky:P

[tacit tulip]

more alchemy to get better samples then 😄

[surreal oxide]

ah ok

[vale wadi]

so I guess just try more:P

[tacit tulip]

krakens are slow though

[surreal oxide]

which alchemyh bubbles are key for sampliung

[pearl cedar]

Basically, yes. Like doing 200 plants for .5% or doing 5 plants for .1% chance. If you do the .1% you're getting 8 times the amount of chances.

[tacit tulip]

for fishing specifically, these

[somber sparrow]

str cauldron
1, 2, 7, 8, 17, 18, 19, 22, 24

[surreal oxide]

ah ty

[vale wadi]

i guess chanches are better then a little more chanche at this point

[surreal oxide]

ive not been focusing enough on the alchemy

[pearl cedar]

There's also a fishing guide that tells you which bait, line, and fishing spot to use for best samples

[pearl cedar]

Nobody has

[misty spindle]

wasnt .3 best tho?

[tacit tulip]

as little % as you can bring yourself to click at is best

0.3% is common as it stops you going entirely mad 😄

honestly surprised at how much beans has increased my overall damage. Gained 20% in the last week which seems to be almost purely from the movement speed gains

[pulsar cliff]

jesus

[placid timber]

High numbers 😱

[tacit tulip]

don't be fooled, a lot of my high numbers come from a mix of laziness and playing a long time

NBLB has put in a lot of work for me

[stoic cypress]

I'm ~mid W5. Should I be focusing on getting onyx statue (farming power statue takes me forever it feels like) or am I better off using my statues for now?

[surreal oxide]

do you have all onyx statues already gogd dam

[stoic cypress]

This is my current stacks plus maybe another 1k of a few of them https://i.imgur.com/MNuzMmJ.png

[tacit tulip]

It's hard to say I think

I'd personally probably save

but it might also be better to focus on "stuff that increases statue gains" instead, like crystal chance or drop rate, or DK skill levels

[surreal oxide]

So I want to get snake vial to 100%? Based on w4 rift I have 12 vials at maxd which means my w4 rift bonus is 1.24.
SO do i take 80%*1.24 = 99%?
At 100% do all statues always count as 2x?

[loud cedar]

U could block him .. just saying

[burnt moss]

guys is any one of those two worth buying

[tacit tulip]

it's 27 vials for 100%, but yes they'll always be 2x

[surreal oxide]

is the math in my calc screenshto wrong then?

[stoic cypress]

hmm okay, my statue levels are anywhere between level 6-23 which isn't super high

[tacit tulip]

the value shown on the vial is post mastery bonus

[surreal oxide]

ooooh

dam

[loud cedar]

[twin token]

Gz

[tacit tulip]

I've had that a couple weeks, was just showing cloudi

[twin token]

Oh ok

[tacit tulip]

as he was trying to add vial bonus to what was shown on the vial haha

[burnt moss]

any one?!

[twin token]

Depends on what captains u alr have

[tacit tulip]

discovery rate isn't worth grabbing, speed and loot % is. So compare to what you already have and upgrade where appropriate

[twin token]

Yeah u wanna get speed and loot to upgrade ur boats more

[tacit tulip]

this means you can still grab the loot/cloud captain if it's better than an existing loot captain

[pearl cedar]

Eventually phasing out speed for loot/loot

[tacit tulip]

that's a long way away, however

Yeah, gains to a vial are dispalyed on the vial

so it's accounting for this

[surreal oxide]

i c i c ty

[pearl cedar]

Around lvl 145 speed

Depending on other bonuses

[tacit tulip]

it'll go above 100% if I get another vial but as I understand it, you can't triple bonus

[pearl cedar]

For me at least

[languid blaze]

I feel like I've kinda hit a progressional wall again, could someone point out where I should be putting my focus?
https://ampharell.idleonefficiency.com/

I presume it'd be on alchemy, but which bubbles should I focus on specifically then? Just farm gmush and level the multiplier?

[teal lynx]

2 BB and 2 Bubos

[tacit tulip]

The easiest way to level alchemy is to look at your bubbles that are very easy to level up. This is typically: Logs, ore, bugs, fish, and sometimes mob mats.

Start taking printing samples (use royal sampler) for the skilling stuff. Use ES to farm mob mats if needed

your goal here is to level up these easy bubbles so that the lab bonus, "no bubble left behind" levels the HARD bubbles for you, without spending your resources: Salt, worship souls, trapping critters, cooking spices.

As you progress, your account will get stronger in all areas. This will make your samples bigger, which lets you level the bubbles further, and it's an almost endless cycle towards greatness.

As you get stronger it'll be easier to level other things: Stamps, craft better gear, and generally do anything you need.

Glad I saved this in notepad I use it a lot

As an aside it's probably not the most efficient way to do alchemy

[untold lintel]

some tips, ill edit what i see

stamps could def use some juicing up
forge is empty
alchemy def needs some loving, like he said, focus the easy bubbles let NBLB do the work
stop auto refining your red salt and green salt so you can get red to 11 and green to 6
def resample, youve got atom collider and your barely printing 2m logs an hour, follow a sample guide in #1084911530417606656
youve got full worship charge, use that, it doesnt overflow so your wasting
spend some time on breeding, its very nice! , pet arenas got good bonus'
focus some on skill mastery, maybe all characters to like lvl 30 in each skill?

[tacit tulip]

but it is the least thought

[teal lynx]

14 Empty Forge Slots. Fill them up with whatever you need for your next Armor Upgrades

You got some very easy Meals to level up. 1 Ladle each

[languid blaze]

Just to clarify, trying to understand - not challenge your suggestions

I've resampled a few days back, this is simply as high as it goes... am I missing something obvious here?
Worship is not actually full though is it? I'm keeping it on the individual toons to level their worship so they can equip the higher skulls
Breeding I'm doing as much as I can, but just seems very slow to get through, I've reached arena 65 reward today,
Skill masteries I can defo do, that's a good one

And so with alchemy just level whatever I can then?

[tacit tulip]

sampling is kinda a mix of eff (multi skill chance), afk%, speed, and sample rate. Most sources of gains will come from greatly increasing your eff to get more per hit

but yeah, alchemy is good to just mass level your bubbles. For example, NBLB is currently hitting your stronk tools bubble, which is platinum ore and not that much of it. If you level this, it'll have to go hit a different bubble, potentially one much more expensive to level

[languid blaze]

Fair nuff

Guess I needa print some plat

[tacit tulip]

in addition, stronk tools increases your fishing/mining gains long term, so if you level that a bunch, you'll likely resample higher

on that note, it made me check: Use the royal sampler prayer. Never not use it

The print gains are always worth the exp loss

one day we might hit max sample size without it, but we're not there yet

[teal lynx]

Since you don't have sheepie don't forget to put those Multi-Log, Multi-Ore Bubbles on when Sampling ^^
Also try to level them some more. Flys and Iron Bars are also not that hard to get

[tacit tulip]

he might have sheepie. IE doesn't show pets on public links

[teal lynx]

Oh

Interesting never knew this ^^

[tacit tulip]

was a protest from the site developer, and also why leaderboards are now gone

[languid blaze]

I do have sheepie

Not doot though >.>

[tacit tulip]

that's fine most of us don't

[teal lynx]

I farmed some Gems and finally went over the 5200 Threshold for all those FOMO Trophies. And I really don't wanna spend them, but 7 Goldwatches sound tempting

[tacit tulip]

on the note for sheepie, equip the worship big bubble on everyone. there's a mild bug in ie where it doesn't account for it if it's not equipped, even with sheepie.

doesn't change anything, but makes tracking it a bit easier

[languid blaze]

I'm so confused

I feel like I did everything exactly the same I did a few days back

But my oak logs went x6

to 4.3m

[tacit tulip]

congrats, that's known as "big gains"

[languid blaze]

But why

XD

[tacit tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

for gains that size, at that small a timeframe, it typically means you forgot something

[languid blaze]

Ah crap and I forgot food now

Oh wait

Onyx statues?

Dunno how big that impact would be tho

[tacit tulip]

onyxing the chopping one would have helped a fair bit tbh

[languid blaze]

Ye that'd be it then

[untold lintel]

what card set should I use for CC?

crystal cards doubled, and then a mix of dr/damage?

[tacit tulip]

If you're not killing fast damage will help, but the rest depends on what you're after

Typically DR/Money, but sometimes active exp too

[untold lintel]

doing my first CC in so long, now I can do it on flombeige now, i think I used to get like 7 hours of time per CC

not yet at 200 tent, at 191, either the fury relic or the atom upgrade for +10 max lvl, whichever comes first, will get me to 200 tent

[crude sedge]

Hi. What's the best class for farming deathnotes kills? Thx

[untold lintel]

dang, im down to 1:55 crystal chance now on bubo with choco chip, thats not too shabby

[tacit tulip]

ES for AFK is the best but typically you want ES doing something else. Falls to SB in their absence

[languid blaze]

With printing 20m/h on oak logs, does it becomes worth it to enable atom or should I use them for alch first?

[tacit tulip]

kinda up to you, 20m is still kinda on the low side (2 atoms an hour) but there's a lot of bonuses that are strong from the collider, particularly at their first level

[naive sleet]

help

they got literally same everything

why one does 10m damage more than the other

tf

[tacit tulip]

check your prayers

thinking: fibers of absence

[naive sleet]

nope

both got giant

and the shiny one

nothing more

[tacit tulip]

would probably need an ie link o take a closer guess

[naive sleet]

how do i get that?

[tacit tulip]

https://www.idleonefficiency.com/

[teal lynx]

Probably talents

[tacit tulip]

talents are the other like one yeah ^

weapon attack, scaling from agi, that sorta thing

[naive sleet]

https://www.idleonefficiency.com/players

just this works?

[tacit tulip]

you'll need to generate a public profile

it'll give you a unique link to share

[naive sleet]

https://nathanlop3s.idleonefficiency.com

[naive sleet]

i reseted the lower one

[naive sleet]

yeah some are a little lower

but get more at the 3rd tab

i think

[teal lynx]

"Little"

Those are huge for dmg

[naive sleet]

thats the 14m damage one tho

[tacit tulip]

how do neither of these have cards equipped 😛

[naive sleet]

the 14m is the one who got less

[naive sleet]

took all off to comapre

like, i reseted all of the lower damage dude

to make it similiar to the 14m one

[teal lynx]

U sure both of them are on the Damage Preset in that Picture?

[naive sleet]

yes

[raw tundra]

oh, there was an end gamer with billions of build rate if i remember correctly. anyways i have 70k why does it say 0

[tacit tulip]

^ change map and come back

should be enough to get it to work

[fathom lagoon]

Only 1 ancient left finally!! Gotta push to unlock eldritch in the rift

[teal lynx]

I literally don't see anything that would make a difference of 26m dmg
Unless one had a fighting Preset + Cards and the other a skilling preset

[tacit tulip]

mmhm agreed

there's differences, but not enough where I can go "this is clearly the problem"

[teal lynx]

Especially the one with the higher talent levels has the lower dmg

[tacit tulip]

it's kinda a mix too, the higher damage one has more on these - but it shouldn't be enough to make the diff

@naive sleet this is a long shot, but can you take a look at your lab as the lower damage character? very rarely I've seen issues where the lab comes disconnected when it's stretched to its limit. This shouldn't be the cause, but it's possible. Adjust each character a few pixels then cloudsave/come back again

[naive sleet]

hm

[shy blaze]

?mute @boreal sonnet 1h continued ghost pinging poor etiquette

[verbal canyon]

dwightkurtschrute3 was muted. | continued ghost pinging poor etiquette

[naive sleet]

nope, didnt work

[tacit tulip]

that's me outa ideas then 😄

[naive sleet]

skill preset he goes to 60k

[signal osprey]

What kind of damage are the rest of your characters sitting on?

[naive sleet]

3-5m

with 2 or 3 with 10m+

[orchid ferry]

Any suggestion for best talents to book to 245+?

[signal osprey]

Was the 30m SB by chance a BM at one point and you elite class swapped him?

[untold lintel]

!trapchart

[tacit tulip]

Vman cooking is the most important one

[obtuse orbit]

Created by ..someone

[naive sleet]

nope

and he has 12m

[tacit tulip]

Clever idea tho, pet power talent...

[naive sleet]

wym

[teal lynx]

We are always talking max damage

[tacit tulip]

when we discuss damage we do upper not lower btw

[signal osprey]

He has 30m max damage

[little harbor]

Is this bugged?

[naive sleet]

ah ok, sorry

[orchid ferry]

yeah i got most of my Vman talents to 245/255 but now idk if im missing anything major on other chars

[teal lynx]

ES Portal, Dk Orb?

CC/Tent

[orchid ferry]

tent?

[tacit tulip]

Only other thing I can think to try would be to touch each unique function using your weaker SB to see if it recalculates. Statues, stamps, alchemy, all of it

[teal lynx]

Tenteyecle

[orchid ferry]

ouuhhhh true i havnt played bubbo in a while

[teal lynx]

200 Tent gives you 3s reduction instead of 2

[orchid ferry]

i read cc as crystal countdown lol not cranium cooking

[teal lynx]

we use ccd for countdown

[orchid ferry]

it already 238 lol

[noble mesa]

And u can do all skilling on all charec for more sample

[orchid ferry]

hmmmm then would you focus on the weapon power talents like gided sword/sharpened axe and the middle talent of page 2?

[orchid ferry]

true ive started doing that on my es for big oak sample

[noble mesa]

If u do its sooooo many books

[orchid ferry]

ik thats why im asking if i should think of something first

[noble mesa]

Its what u need at the moment

[teal lynx]

Skilling is good for Alchemy and Atoms. After that u can use them for dmg talents. Most important are Mages and Warrior Skilling Talents

[noble mesa]

If dmg so dmg if u need more prints so more skilling

[untold lintel]

dumb question I should know by know, do I need to have the trap on every character or just one

[orchid ferry]

every

but you can place them from the same char

(using the drone)

[untold lintel]

but you still need all the same trap on all characters to use it

[orchid ferry]

well you dont "need" to but your char wont be able to use "higher rarity traps"

any talents i should get for my dk since i feel like my ES >>> DK

[untold lintel]

yeah nw, i have enough resources anyway, just wanted to save time

made 10 of em

should I use natural boxes or keep using wooden?

[orchid ferry]

nature on vman for exp

[untold lintel]

natural boxes trash fs

[tacit tulip]

all of them (Yes I know my orb is too high, arctis screwed me)

[naive sleet]

@teal lynx @tacit tulip should i make a bug report abt the damage thing or nah?

[orchid ferry]

how is it too high?

[tacit tulip]

267 is where you stop orb to prevent overlap

causes it to recast it early resetting me to 0

[orchid ferry]

yeah but you have 100% uptime anyway

so does it matter much?

[tacit tulip]

given it's consistently staying the same there's probably a reason it's doing it, hard part is figuring out why

[tepid obsidian]

you lose out higher orb numbers

[naive sleet]

just askikng cz like, some ppl said something abt 2nd blood berserker chow thing not working

tought it would be the same for 2nd siege breaker

idk

[fathom lagoon]

Oh shit good to know lol

[tacit tulip]

apparently at 300+ orb the extra time on it prevents the auto re-cast so you don't lose any orb count

[balmy kiln]

Was just going to do prinint after getting doot, and for every class except mining I'm getting higher prints, and from mining I'm going from 9M copper to 6M, already checked griffys vid on print checks, does anyone have any clue why I'm getting minus 33 percent?

[tacit tulip]

printing is just a factor of your afk page, so give it another look and see if you can figure out why

[glacial venture]

do you mean sampling or printing?

[uneven violet]

Does worship lag more or less on mobile in late rounds?

[teal lynx]

In this Context they mean Sampling, but Sampling is basically printing

[uneven violet]

Prayer check too?

Were u running royal something prayer

[teal lynx]

Probably more. But wait a week or two for no dmg numbers in Worship

#💖future-content-blog

[uneven violet]

Oh that

I was confused a bit

Yeh I don’t even have voidinator unlocked yet, I won’t have to worry for a while

[fallow aurora]

why does the unlock cost here show 499 but in game its 390?

[icy bone]

May be W5 merit shop ?

[uneven violet]

Me no atom collider

[fallow aurora]

it says 20% reduction in atom upgrade cost, I would assume unlocking it is not part of "upgrading" it

[signal osprey]

You upgraded from level 0 to level 1

[icy bone]

and also the atom split bubbble maybe

when I think it's still upgrading something atom related and unlocking it might still an upgrade and not an absolute words x)

[fallow aurora]

oh, I didn't think about it that way ty

[uneven violet]

😂

[autumn wasp]

cant u just reset ur talents and level it to 267 manually?

[uneven violet]

Yes you can but will be annoying when es levels up too much

[spice widget]

do kattlekruk weapon upgrade stones exist?

[autumn wasp]

these?

[spice widget]

oh ye

[autumn wasp]

think its from nm

[spice widget]

ive 50 each but no weapon

oooh makes sense

[noble mesa]

Ita not thet good

To riscy

[fallow aurora]

yeah, plus its probably gonna be irrelevant once w6 stones come out

[icy bone]

or you reset you post office and remove the manabox crate that reduces cooldown and I think you can go up to 300 x)
and if your es levels up you just need to reset again or I don't think it will significantly go above 267 no ?

[native carbon]

How do you swap Google accounts

[daring rapids]

shamless plug, made a gaming suggestion to convert harvest all into harvest selected so we can speed up the tedium of harvesting cycles. Go check it out in #player-suggestions

[bleak gust]

when is time to card farm

[autumn wasp]

always

u need cards to farm cards

[bleak gust]

well like seriously like platinum all cards

[fallow aurora]

when u get es

[bleak gust]

that soon?

i feel like it should be done after you've gotten 5x droprate or more

[autumn wasp]

mob cards with es, boss cards with vman

[bleak gust]

skilling cards>

?

[autumn wasp]

i did it while skilling vman but idk how efficient that is

[bleak gust]

how good was your vman

what level was it

[autumn wasp]

364

but im still doing it

[fallow aurora]

u don't really have a choice but to grind skilling cards with vman

[autumn wasp]

like these i still need

[fallow aurora]

if u leave a dk at mining it will level up too fast

[bleak gust]

i did

its 51

right hand never coming

how would you level skilling faster then

[autumn wasp]

candy

[bleak gust]

i have like 0

only 200 1hr and for everything else i have less than 10

[autumn wasp]

u have colo keys?

[bleak gust]

33

[autumn wasp]

and turn on this prayer on ur active

[bleak gust]

i dont acctive

[autumn wasp]

w2 colo gives best candy i hear

[bleak gust]

i hear from where

[zinc torrent]

How much damage do I need to kill this guy in less than 30 seconds?

[bleak gust]

how much cnady would it take to get right habnd

[teal lynx]

We don't know. Depends on how far behind he is and how much xp you get an hour

[bleak gust]

alright

[raw tundra]

what will make it better? your answer will determine which work some characters will take on.

[pearl cedar]

Biggie hours card

Colo2 is just best candy/ticket ratio. But not necessarily the best colo to run

[uneven violet]

If your on mage classes upgrade specialised skill xp I learnt that it doesn’t matter if your bubo or not the xp u get increases

[fallow aurora]

pretty sure thats a es talent not bubo

[uneven violet]

U can level the tab 2 for both

[raw tundra]

some people get millions. what causes that? stamps? lab? meals? some other progression jsut perhaps i could do? the game became idle. please. this is not it. builds are done and it is not enough to give a good boost. and lava will unfotunately design the game with endgamers in mind. maaaaaaan

[uneven violet]

Do u want dignity points or xp

Divinity

[raw tundra]

points but really anything to make those numbers ten times more. jsut one more threshold in divinity, unlocking goat is what i need.

and then i can be in peace.

however long everything takes

[autumn wasp]

divinity is hella slow in the beginning

[raw tundra]

what makes it faster later to begin with

[autumn wasp]

progressing in everything else w5

stamps sailing gaming bubbles

[raw tundra]

maps?

[autumn wasp]

what do u mean maps

[uneven violet]

Leveling up sailing and blessings and leveling up xp

[autumn wasp]

oh cooking and breeding too

[uneven violet]

Yes but that’s later on

[raw tundra]

going towards boss?

[autumn wasp]

im not sure i understand your question

if you are asking for the fastest way for you to progress in divinity

[raw tundra]

unlocking new ares, unlocking portals

[autumn wasp]

the answer is to do divinity

[raw tundra]

does that help in any way

[fast verge]

its starting

[autumn wasp]

ok here, push to the map where you can chop these and level that vial up and lmk if that speeds up ur divinity in any way

[raw tundra]

thank you

[fallow aurora]

nobisect gods helps with pushing, it doubles ur kills

[paper sail]

My first snail reset, trying to go from 14 -> 15

[autumn wasp]

what % was it at?

the success

[paper sail]

50

[autumn wasp]

is it more efficient to just not encourage?

[paper sail]

idk

That was heavily encouraged though lol

base at that rank was ~30% success

[pearl cedar]

Strat before atom added was to encourage, now probably just full send

[orchid ferry]

i cant even get chemicals in gaming

[noble mesa]

Same

[fallow aurora]

same

[autumn wasp]

i been encouraging since lvl 1 😂 imma full ape it from now on

[mystic stump]

pastpres completely useless for w1 pets?

[fallow aurora]

theres nothing before w1 pets so yeah

[mystic stump]

sticks are the bane of my existence

[misty spindle]

same

just have to wait for golden eggs

[grand berry]

dont wait for egg upgrades (silver, gold). It´s better to use them when you get them

[paper sail]

Eh, different cases

Usually faster, low-chance shots win and yet everyone can't get over recommending 100% divinity chances 🤷

[misty spindle]

not always, you can just balls to the wall and use 100 eggs or wait for golden eggs, depends how youre playing the game really

[spark steppe]

which one should i upgrade 1st?

[misty spindle]

Id say right one

[rustic garnet]

Sigh, 4 molis in a row

[orchid ferry]

what stone can roll miscs again?

to improve like gold food value on royal turban etc

[sick sentinel]

the random ones, but only on dropped stuff

ye like turban

[orchid ferry]

the basic w1 one?

[sick sentinel]

ye

[orchid ferry]

or like the w4-w5 one

[sick sentinel]

idk if it matters which

[modern plaza]

yeah encouraging isn’t as strong as we’d like it to be

[pulsar talon]

hello what bonuses are meant with King doot pet? is it like "always active in lab" or something else? i am not sure since Link bonuses dont work for me

[teal lynx]

U get all of this without needing to link to a God. 1 Person has to Link to Purrmep manually

[pulsar talon]

oh so its bugged for me... i switched to other char and somehow it works

[paper sail]

If you aren't getting ANY bonuses, make sure you have at least level 2 divinity skill on ALL characters.

[pulsar talon]

yea it works now, thanks

[dreamy rapids]

What is the best map for Cranium?

[iron citrus]

Apart from spending liquid on the regeneration liquid speed anything else to speed up liquid regeneration?

I'm active bubonic alot more now

[dreamy rapids]

Heh?

So what is the best map?

[iron citrus]

That'd what I'm.asking too lol not a clue which best map, just trying to improve the regen speed aswell

[signal osprey]

Wurms

[paper sail]

Over 100k to max the gem shop from null

[signal osprey]

[paper sail]

Almost a whole Doot. $540 if you maxed it purely from the Mountain of Gems deal, 2k gems for $20

Granted, that's a dumb way to do it, but.. For simplicity

[signal osprey]

Forsake the bundles. Embrace the mountain of gems

[paper sail]

Most bundles are less gem/$

But obviously have other things besides gems

[feral hemlock]

Guys whats the main source of increase in liquid regeneration? Im confused as i've invested levels from 80 to 120 liquid and still it didnt increase, remained at 22 like lol...

[paper sail]

Stamp is big, as are them gem shop upgrades you already boughy

Just remember you are partially nuking your regen with the lab bonus

[feral hemlock]

Oh right with the capacity

Does anyone even turn that off? Btw whats your stamp/ regen?

[paper sail]

Not much better, tbh

[feral hemlock]

Oh yup thats terrible lol

[misty spindle]

How did you get the first one to look like that? there are only 3 upgrades in gem shop

[paper sail]

My Drippy stamp is 110, rate 170-187

[paper sail]

Draconic cauldron was in fomo shop twice in the past

[silver frigate]

Yo I’m trying to craft my world 5 anvil tan but am only smithing level 59, how can I level this up fast?

[paper sail]

Soulble Gum

[misty spindle]

Is it worth it if comes again? How much did it cost

[paper sail]

It gives max cap only. Not great early, but lategame it means less changing to Bubo. Just longer Alch sessions to fill the bigger cap

Not sure on cost. I didn't buy it because shortsighted

[signal osprey]

Its more QoL than actual power but its so much QoL that id rather have it than a lot of the limited shop items that give actual power

[silver frigate]

Thanks, I try to use that but I run out of water fast cause my cap is only like 150
Any tips on how to greatly increase my water production too?

[paper sail]

W3 mobs drop that water, don't forget

[misty spindle]

Is DNA you get from plants in gaming based on anything or just pure rng?

[sick sentinel]

Wdym? you get dna per plant.

[misty spindle]

yes

[sick sentinel]

I dont think tiers influence it

You just get dna per plant

[misty spindle]

I have been just spamming level 1s for chem plant

also is .1 best for chem plant?

[sick sentinel]

Pretty much

Gotta get hella lucky

[misty spindle]

Should I get my BM his own chizoar armor or just give him the one I already made for my vman, seems easier to just go for troll

[safe harness]

did luckylad get buffed? have had 2 this morning and 0 since i started 6 months ago

[sick sentinel]

Skip to troll if u can

[fading cape]

If you had to pick 2 fish NOT to sample on BB, which would they be?

[fading cape]

just RNG things

[fading cape]

It took me well over a month, possibly 6 weeks, to get chem plant. I was incredibly unlucky with that one

[misty spindle]

Im pretty sure im about to hit the month milestone

[paper sail]

Jellyfish and Mantas are the 2 I skipped

[signal osprey]

Assuming the new fish are a given to leave out I would skip mantas and jellyfish but realistically every fish has bubbles and stamps so gotta pick what you think you're going to level

[upbeat trout]

i just got tenteyecle to lv203, omg it s so broken

[orchid ferry]

ive been going for chems for months

[fading cape]

that was my original thought. Thanks

[fading cape]

yeah new fish are a given. I green stacked them but want to build up them in case there are new vials, or something like that.

[signal osprey]

I haven't even green stacked the last one yet. Vman will get it done one day

[orchid ferry]

lmao i can barely get the last one only on a warrior class

[fading cape]

don't worry, you'll get there. Probably next time you blink and think about it again. Keep working on alchemy and strength and it'll happen in no time.

[orchid ferry]

yo btw does atoms cost reset at some point? or is it only going up for every level of the bubble?

[fading cape]

onyl up and up. But caps when you hit 1,000M resources

[orchid ferry]

atom cost never caps, ressources do

[fading cape]

yes but the atom cost is tied to resource. So for instance, first bubble will cap out at 100 atoms per buy no matter what

[orchid ferry]

lol i missremembered

so you can atom from 100M upwards right?

i thought it was 1000M for some reason so i figured the atom cost wouldnt cap as I saw it increase

[fading cape]

yes, correct. And keep in mind that different classes have different cost reductions. So you can abuse that.

For instance, for a bubble that takes iron bars. You can use resource tags to reduce cost by 90% on an archer, making the cost something like 10M resources to buy it. But the true cost is much higher. So once you buy that cheap level, the next level is like 14M. Switch to say a mage, and the "true cost" on mage is like 89M. You can abuse this buy making the bubble very cheap on one class, and switching to a different class to use Atoms instead

[orchid ferry]

well anyway

basicly you want to atom bubbles that are <100M on "off" class and use atoms on >100M bubbles on the right class to reduce cost until you cap it at 1000M on the right clas

if that make sense lol

[valid rivet]

Unsure if directly W5 related, but does anyone know if there's card tier lists available for combat activities? Both pushing, crystal spawn chance, drop rate and the like. I've looked and I haven't found anything, and I'm looking to optimize my cards

[misty spindle]

did you search here on discord

ctrl+f and type what you need

[valid rivet]

There's literally 250000 results for cards, and I checked through the commands multiple times

[orchid ferry]

tbf the best is just to ctrl f on the wiki card list

depending on the stat you need

[valid rivet]

Fair. I've been using IE toolbox for identifying cards, probably the best if there's no definitive help chart

[south gull]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1090072110879219803

Maybe that helps idk

[wooden sentinel]

What's the best spot for cranium?

[valid rivet]

That's literally what I was looking for. Thank you so much 😄

[south gull]

Tremor wurms

[sick sentinel]

Depends on your stats, but best is wurms w5

[wooden sentinel]

K thanks

[little harbor]

Worth pulling everyone to farm keys for W4 boss instead of the W5 boss?

[orchid ferry]

well why do you want a candy and 5 pearls so bad

[little harbor]

its for the w4 trophy

[high owl]

I have way over guaranteed chance to land mega crit but I don't think I've ever seen a mega crit? Mega crit is green numbers, right?

[orchid ferry]

have you done all w4 quest?

[little harbor]

yes, all others are done

[signal osprey]

No they'll be purple

[orchid ferry]

then why not just es active to farm the keys

[high owl]

Ok. Well that makes sense

[orchid ferry]

its really not that long

[fallow aurora]

just got level 300 bubo, just starting to do active CC what map should I do it in with this damage?

[orchid ferry]

maybe do bb dn too if you want

[paper sail]

Mega crit is only green below 10M damage

[little harbor]

how long do you think? im 11.5dr and been farming stupding saw statues active for 2 days and just to 7k

[willow drum]

megcrits only show up as green when you're under a certain damage. so it'll show mega crits on events

it's been broken since release

[orchid ferry]

i was talking to zmakqo concerning troll key farming

[willow drum]

ah I clicked the wrong message

myb

[orchid ferry]

no worries

[eager sedge]

Citriges

[sullen tide]

Hi

[eager sedge]

with stingers

[glad crow]

it feels good to return too bubo

[sullen tide]

I on W2 level55

Any tips

[fallow aurora]

ty, what cards do I use?

[potent salmon]

w5 chat btw

[orchid ferry]

i dont understand my cc gave me like 40 waters lol

what am i forgetting x)

[eager sedge]

doubler poop and genie rest either damage or drop rate

[fallow aurora]

ty

[eager sedge]

np

[glad crow]

whats your water rate?

and also whats your bubos talent level/layout

[orchid ferry]

shit apparently

[glad crow]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[orchid ferry]

i recall it being higher i think

[glad crow]

this is mine for context

[orchid ferry]

i mean mine are empty rn but like with dudes its barely 3-4/hr more

[glad crow]

^

might be something to do with this

[vagrant mountain]

probably lacking levels in cranium cooking / cooking roadkill

[paper sail]

I finally get to start the liquid regen sigil tomorrow. Hope it actually helps

[orchid ferry]

236 tent, 220 cc

[orchid ferry]

OHHHHHH

i didnt have cooking roadkill active lol

[fallow aurora]

does cc count multikill/kpk?

[glad crow]

switch aura and raise dead

[fallow aurora]

ty

[orchid ferry]

its been so long since i bubbo'ed

[dreamy rapids]

Rip

[orchid ferry]

but even if

[glad crow]

okay why does it feel like my dmg drops everytime i upgrade quickslap??????????

[orchid ferry]

my water regen is so SMOL

[dreamy rapids]

Do you also have the mana box and the alchemy box maxed?

They help CC a lot

[orchid ferry]

yep both 400

[glad crow]

its started out at like 1,6 t, then it dropped down to 1,4 t and now im at 1,3 t

[paper sail]

Losing dmg from sailing artifact because spending atom particles

[clear quartz]

mmmmm me gusta, went from 9k nug to 21k

[glad crow]

but isnt that only log(10) based

[eager sedge]

I went from 41k to 104k

[dreamy rapids]

I went from 50k to still 50k

[eager sedge]

50k is not bad tbh

[clear quartz]

imagine if nug had snail type loss as a thing

[dreamy rapids]

I only just now unlocked my first tier 6 plant

[clear quartz]

faux stock market, price of gold plummets, ope no more gains 4u

[eager sedge]

but yeah the main guy is almost here

[dreamy rapids]

Definitely the biggest boost for to Gaming

[eager sedge]

[dreamy rapids]

Cause Nuggets are shit

[eager sedge]

ill get like 4 fertilizers soon

[dreamy rapids]

Like I thought Breeding sucks but Gaming sucks way harder

[orchid ferry]

do you have the capacity feature on?

[glad crow]

THE LAB THINGY?

sry caps....

[eager sedge]

Nah gaming is chill just gotta hit the jackpot one time

[dreamy rapids]

Considering I got Bloq 4 weeks in a row I don't trust my luck

[eager sedge]

haha

[dreamy rapids]

Which is why I like Divinty cause there is an actual way to guarantee a god

[eager sedge]

i still need molti,slug,doot,ram,c custard

[dreamy rapids]

Everyone need Doot

[glad crow]

i am missing crystal and doot

[dreamy rapids]

I still want Sheepie so I can finally be free from micro managing my Bubbles

[eager sedge]

I got lucky with sheepie first roll

[glad crow]

when trading gets introduced, i have some sheepies people can get

[signal osprey]

Unfortunately there is no jackpot big enough to fix gaming

[eager sedge]

Just need a high enough nugget to get snail fairly easy

50k ish should be enough

[signal osprey]

You can get a 500k nug and max your snail and you still won't finish gaming

[dreamy rapids]

I only have free pets

[glad crow]

i dont wanna do gaming for 4 hours

[eager sedge]

rosmos is close

[signal osprey]

Closest and close aren't the same

He still has months to go

[eager sedge]

I don t even think last upgrade is possible

[signal osprey]

In theory it is but in practice nobody will get it prior to W6

[eager sedge]

yeah but w6 is getting closer and closer

[dreamy rapids]

And will bring new op shit

[signal osprey]

Still gonna be a few months

[dreamy rapids]

I wonder if there will be a big difficulty spike for W6

[signal osprey]

A few months with gaming being pointless

[dreamy rapids]

Just like when W5 launched

[eager sedge]

Seeing how he did wurms probably

[dreamy rapids]

I am pretty sure he already made the NPC for W6

[signal osprey]

Yeah but thats always the first step

That means he was just getting started

[eager sedge]

Just make it hard enough that rushers won t be able to survive first map even with food and potions

[signal osprey]

First mob better have more health than nkruk

[dreamy rapids]

Depend on what OP shit we will get

[clear quartz]

that reminds me, i should do more of the quests, unlock more of the gear i cant get to yet

[eager sedge]

nah that way i won t be able to kill em haha

[dreamy rapids]

And what the new elite subclasses are gonna do

[clear quartz]

errr merits, whatever

[eager sedge]

but into 100B should be enough

[misty spindle]

isnt it coming in Dec?

[signal osprey]

No idea

[eager sedge]

last mob should be in T for sure

[signal osprey]

Any date thrown around now is just speculation

Lava has given no time frames

[dreamy rapids]

Passing the gates are probably gonna require minimum 1M kills

[sick sentinel]

Time frames are also subject to lava changes lol

[dreamy rapids]

I can totally see the last one being crazy high amount like 50M

[fallow aurora]

holy shit, active bubo is so laggy

[eager sedge]

tbh a diferent approach on unlocking portals would be nice

[viral snow]

Companions

[fallow aurora]

wish there was a high performance option to remove all this poison

[eager sedge]

no

[midnight pebble]

todays spoils, and suprisingly only 1 obol

[signal osprey]

Better be 100m for the last portal. Make em get an eclipse skull to unlock it on all 10

[viral snow]

Last portal is locked by rainbow gems

[paper sail]

I feel like I can finish before W6 is out

[eager sedge]

Don t make the game gay pls

[paper sail]

yike

[south gull]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/602291186992152595/892436470818803732/owie_my_eyes.gif

[viral snow]

[signal osprey]

The ram we never knew we needed

[viral snow]

Wheny gay ram ?

[south gull]

ram_ is amazing

[clear quartz]

rambow

[ivory warren]

highest plant evo is 7 if you have the last superbit right

[south gull]

Yep

[brave trench]

For the 'lack of modesty' quest to get 100k statues, do I have to manually loot them or can it be auto loot? Like AFK looting doesn't count?

Like do I need to come to my computer and actually move my mouse or am I missing something

Nevermind, candy at dreadlo gives me credit for the statues zzz lol

whew

[paper sail]

It just means collect them after the quest starts. No pulling from storage

[brave trench]

Thanks

[clear quartz]

i need to work on dmg stuff again at some point, nkruk is a bit painful still even on ES

[stiff kayak]

just got vman where do i put my points?

[lyric adder]

Can nm kattlekrunk heal without the moles

?

[tacit tulip]

if you lock them in place with archers yeah

the moles heal on time alive

rather than when they get close

[lyric adder]

What like from the vines?

[tacit tulip]

yeah

kick too

[lyric adder]

Got it ty

[dreamy rapids]

_jeb

[south gull]

jeb_

Glad someone noticed it

[signal osprey]

First you max the first 3 talents from left to right to greatly improve your speedrunning potential and then do a speedrun again tomorrow to get a lot more portals

[haughty sedge]

how high do people go on the exp bubble?

[tacit tulip]

yes

[haughty sedge]

What? I mean im at 3k, but it feels like its not enough 🤔