lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[heavy moth]

wonder how long will it be before rotation

[signal osprey]

Never

[heavy moth]

you think lava wont implemented new companion / trading systeme 😮

[opaque sun]

probably just before christmas so lava can buy a house

[heavy moth]

😂

[signal osprey]

I feel like he doesnt wanna deal with all the shit again. Just take the money he got and call it a day

Stick to the more subtle p2w cash grabs like the expedition DR bundle

[opaque sun]

He really didnt do anything with the situation tho

So its still free money

[signal osprey]

Plus when companions dropped and he was streaming he said something like 8-10 weeks he was thinking for more companions

[dapper prism]

I need my dose of next companions now

[signal osprey]

That was nearly 3 months ago now and not only is there no news on companions but it didnt even make his road map

[old coyote]

is there a way to see progress towards obtain items like the slab in game? (Like for ruble cube)

[signal osprey]

Man is quitting while hes ahead

[dapper prism]

I need my Additive Nugget companion...

My All lab perks are doubled companion

[heavy moth]

could those funny little guys be the next companion

[dapper prism]

Best of all, Unlock W6 a month before everyone else companion!

[signal osprey]

Those are W6 mobs/npcs

[heavy moth]

ohh nice

[signal osprey]

One of them even had W6 in the name of the file

Honestly I'm just looking forward to the update to lab jewels and chips.

New lab chip: Companion Doubler

[heavy moth]

ohh yea you right

[dapper prism]

More like new companion: "Have all Lab chips active at all times"

[heavy moth]

that would be insane ahah

[signal osprey]

Even works for chips you dont have

[heavy moth]

or that could be a new rift bonus same as starsign

cause always changing those is a pain

same goes for obols

[crisp silo]

All owned obols active at all times?

[signal osprey]

Lab chips will never change because thats the biggest gem sink in the game for a lot of players and some of those players will spend money to fund it

[heavy moth]

yea, ahha would save my doris ass while resampling

[crisp silo]

Nah as in even if obol just sitting in inv, it gives bonuses

Imagine 10 kattle obols

[heavy moth]

id spam those obol space in gemshop ahaha

[crisp silo]

New gem sink idea

Lava gotta be writing this shit down rn

[signal osprey]

No thanks on that one

I would get way too sweaty with it

[little harbor]

what happens when these guys going to the far away island get back and the chests are full? they just waste theirs? or does the higher treasure type override?

[signal osprey]

Get a full inventory of kruk before using a bunch of candy and then scrap them to go farm a full inventory of dice obols to do like colo and stuff

[little harbor]

wondering if i can use another bottled wind or not

[crisp silo]

They stay at docks

They dont go out no more

[dapper prism]

thats only without sb talent 11

[heavy moth]

damn that would be some work ahah

[dapper prism]

and if with sb talent 11, then they would go out and in non stop anyways overriding previous chests

[signal osprey]

I already know I would do it too

[little harbor]

So if i turn off the SB talent then I wont lose those chests?

[signal osprey]

Its way too much potential DR and afk% to not do it

[heavy moth]

true and dice isnt that hard to farm but kattle obols XD trashing a whole page

[dapper prism]

You don't "lose" chests either way really. But main thing to note is
If you only check sailing once a day, use SB talent 11.
If you check sailing more than once a day, DONT use sb talent 11.

[signal osprey]

I trashed pages worth of them just farming my first cape

[heavy moth]

for vman all kattle set would be good right mob respawn for run and well Dr for dr

[signal osprey]

Mine is full kattle

[little harbor]

what if i am burning a stack of 30 Bottled Wind?

[heavy moth]

first cape :/ damnn im half way done

[signal osprey]

Took me 27k keys to get one

And then I quit farming him because no thanks

[heavy moth]

stopped farming the keys cause DK at beans aahha but with bubo farming there sometime i get near 2k per week

did the runs this morning got my 5th cape and 5th necklace

[signal osprey]

I got 6 necks before the 1st cape

And then recently I used like 5k keys or so that I got while doing bubo and got another 2 necks and 2nd cape

[heavy moth]

nice yea they pop when less expected

ahha

[signal osprey]

Yeah but now that I have a second I dont need to swap between bubo and DK so I feel even less inclined to bother farming more trophies lol

Maybe I'll do it in W6

[heavy moth]

ahaha at one point i guess beans farming will become less rewarding

[pulsar cliff]

Is the bean farming thing for statues?

[sick sentinel]

Pretty much, good for hotdogs and gold sammies too

Leaves

[heavy siren]

How does this guy work

[signal osprey]

You afk your characters there doing nothing and you unlock bonuses

[neat robin]

Cumulative or at one go? Can I use the candy for this purpose?

[signal osprey]

Cumulative and yeah candy works

[grizzled elk]

previous afk time in town count for that? or does it only start tracking when you unlock the island?

[chrome tiger]

Retroactive would be sweet. Unfortunately no

[opaque sun]

but if retroactive worked, you had different issues of what were you doing idle in town

Its not just plain afk in town as in cooking and lab. Needs to be complete “doing nothing” afk

[chrome tiger]

i had many instances of just forgetting someone in town

[fervent path]

How worthwhile is kitsune toggle?

[clear quartz]

same, or desync and would cloud save or otherwise reconnect after having done some smithing or whatever

[opaque sun]

If you can manage to harvest frequently, kitsune is outright net gain

If you cant, then dont bother

[granite grove]

at minimum +33% gains because x4 speed but 1/3 speed, only gets better with each extra kitsune level

but yes, only good if you harvest and be active enough as ^

[chrome tiger]

That reminds me, I should turn mine off

[dapper prism]

Either way try and keep it on when around early on to get Chemical easier

[sour oasis]

Should i do chizoar helm/chest and troll pants/boots on VMan until kattle gear?

[opaque sun]

or magma. Kattle is a side grade of magma so also consider magma options

[elfin flicker]

is ES the best way to farm for obols(portal) or DK?

[opaque sun]

DK

As most obols comes from crystals

[paper sail]

ES for POPs. DK for any other obol

[opaque sun]

And ES wormhole dont affect crystals

[elfin flicker]

POPS is from frogs or shellbies?

[opaque sun]

If specifically for pop, yeah ES on frogs

there is no reason to do snelbies. Its tysons with DK if for pure obols

[elfin flicker]

for the dice(drop rate)?

is pop for the circles obol only? and dices for the squares?

[paper sail]

As always noted: Consider Sandy Pots instead of Tysons, as they drop Glass Shards for the Mason Jar stamp too

[elfin flicker]

makes sense man, thanks!

[opaque sun]

you only need to farm pops to fill silver circles. But may want to make one higher pop for slab registration

[elfin flicker]

is this good enough for active farming pops?

less than 5 drop rarity tho

[paper sail]

Not super ideal, but you've gotta start somewhere.

[opaque sun]

gotta work on that dr, might as well start from obol farming

[untold lintel]

im early gaming (2 hour cycles), and wondering should I be collecting all every 4-6 hours or should I wait till theyre more evolved?

[sick sentinel]

Collect often to get more chances to roll for new plants

[placid mural]

Finally!

[modern plaza]

do build speed obols even work?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

And theyre very strong too

[modern plaza]

oh shit yeah, must of been UI glitch. yeah it's strong

[bright vine]

Why Tyson’s?

[grizzled elk]

steak

[bright vine]

Steak for?

[frail owl]

midas or no for ES statue farming? or are there a bunch of factors to consider

[grizzled elk]

disregard, I can't read lol

[frail owl]

also did i fuck up by maxxing that lol

[signal osprey]

Tysons is just the best W2 crystal map. You get more drops per hour than anywhere else

Snelbies was never good. People just assumed it would be because DK likes flat maps

But when actual testing was done at various W2 maps it had tysons coming out on top with sand pots just behind it

Snelbies wasnt even close

[bright vine]

Ok thanks

[frail owl]

lose about 2x DR

but i'll give er a try, ty

[signal osprey]

Yeah but ES gains most of his effective DR from his portal count

And midas makes the mobs tankier so you cant get as high of a portal

[bright vine]

What’s a good Crystal spawn chance on dk?

[signal osprey]

A good crystal chance is whatever you're able to push yours too. Max the PO box and star talent then push your stamp as far as you can, Always have both crystal cards equipped and doubled if you have the chips for it

[lament jasper]

Also about what was said earlier effaunt is great for dice obols too

[placid mural]

anyone have a chart for max critter setup?

[bright vine]

I think it’s in pins in w3-4 chat

[bright vine]

Thanks. I don’t have the second doubler sadly

[opaque sun]

Its better layout than snelbies

[strong escarp]

Anyone can help with the sentence "1 star, game sucks!" that has to be said by someone whos name starts by P

[signal osprey]

Everyone starts somewhere. Even without both doublers as long as you push your other sources of crystal spawn you can still get a good spawn chance

[manic moat]

sure, where are you

[strong escarp]

Cookie Srvr 1, Town 1

[bright vine]

At 1/58 right now

[strong escarp]

Ah wait, i have to change the characte :S sry

[manic moat]

lol ok

[signal osprey]

Definitely some room for improvement but thats also good enough to farm crystals at a reasonable rate

[strong escarp]

Done haha

Thanksss

[bright vine]

Thanks. I can max the Crystal cards for sure

Maybe a few stamp levels

Got PO Box maxed

[modern plaza]

is 3days for each w3 statue standard rate?

[signal osprey]

Thats definitely a priority. Crystal spawn is one of the strongest stats in the game and the cards specifically are one of the easiest sources

I recommend anyone that doesnt have the cards maxed should do so asap

[signal osprey]

For most players thats probably fairly normal

[manic moat]

and don't forget about the crystal shrine too.

[bright vine]

For card farming, should I use sb instead

?

[signal osprey]

Active card farming is best on ES

[modern plaza]

i got a lot of con obols farming the con statue, has been a very beneficial grind

[signal osprey]

I have a full personal and family page of con obols. Theyre great

[sharp vine]

Does shimmer island only "see" your progress once per day?

[opaque sun]

as in what progress? Giants?

[sharp vine]

The trial is "get your wis stat as high as you can" when I checked in on my Vman, it saw his Wis stat. Going back to it on my ES, who has like 3x more wis, it's still calculating my Vman's. Yes, I've closed out the game/cloud saved

[cursive forge]

will my divinity progress wasted if I claim at like 2hr 45min

[opaque sun]

It should be instant

[signal osprey]

You sure you didnt already claim it? If you claimed it I dont think it will update

[opaque sun]

Also many people often misread some fine prints of the requirements

[signal osprey]

If you didnt then yeah it should just check your current stats. There is no update timer or anything

[sharp vine]

Ah so if I claim it doesn't give me any new amount to make up the difference?

[signal osprey]

For the shared mantra exp yes the 45 minutes will be wasted as it works in 1 hour intervals. Each players individual exp should still work normally though

[opaque sun]

Theoretically its always best to claim just before reset to maximize, assuming you dont forget

[bright vine]

12 pens in less than an hour. This will be interesting

[signal osprey]

Nope you get 1 chance to claim a week and once you do thats it

[sharp vine]

Ahhh. Yeah that's not intuitive at all. Also explains what happened to me last week as well.

[opaque sun]

It seems intuitive…

[sleek tree]

ezz

[cursive forge]

I just started w5 so Im not sure

[signal osprey]

For what its worth the wis trial is pretty bad anyway so even at triple stats you likely arent missing much anyway

[sharp vine]

I figured you would be allowed to claim each time you reach a new break point and be given higher amounts of the currency for each new tier

[opaque sun]

Thats more of wishful thinking than intuitiveness

[signal osprey]

Yeah if you're only at 1 exp per hour then tbh I'm not sure how the game handles the rounding on that

[sharp vine]

It would be if it scanned my entire account and not whoever I just wandered to the island with. The way it is now, I would figure going back as you work on the "challenge" and get better at it it would keep giving you reward amounts for your progress, assuming any could be made

[cursive forge]

ok

[sharp vine]

But yeah last week I claimed the mining eff one on whoever I was activing with I think and then went back with my DK and was wondering why it was only counting 8 digits and not the like, 12 or whatever 100b is worth

[opaque sun]

game just cuts off 0.99 div exp

[sharp vine]

But nobody had an answer when I asked why I wasn't able to claim it and why it was telling me I only had 8 digits of eff when very clearly I didn't. Shame, means I'm probably half as far with shimmer as I should be lol

[opaque sun]

only claim if the reset is soon, or you are certain you cant do any better

And for shimmer, you probably only lost maybe like 10% of what you could have gotten

[cursive forge]

so like if I was to get 1.99 I only get 1?

[opaque sun]

Yeah

[cursive forge]

dang ok

[opaque sun]

When your overall div exp multiplier gets better, that cutoff is negligible

[amber dagger]

Are there max ranks for refinery?

[opaque sun]

Just the very early stages of 1 exp zone

[opaque sun]

Probably around 2.1 b ranks on mobile

[amber dagger]

😭no way

Pc is diff?

[cursive forge]

ok

[opaque sun]

Probably up to an integer that 64 bit can handle

[amber dagger]

Ah kinda crazy rn I'm tryna get them all infinite which is slowly working

Only my first one is infinite

😭💀

[manic moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1127794245072330812/salt_rank.png

[opaque sun]

Btw that “infinite refinery” is a bygone relic of the old era

Shouldnt ever aim for infinite

[amber dagger]

What should I aim for with that?

[opaque sun]

just rank everything

[manic moat]

This chart works for me

[opaque sun]

You just hurting yourself to stop ranking

[manic moat]

just have them all from left to right, each row is a different level

as long as you have red and green at the levels, the others shouldn't run out as you keep ranking up

[amber dagger]

🤞ight imma keep working at it

[manic moat]

so I always have red and green at 0% but I only change the others to 0% once I've reached a new level

[opaque sun]

The whole concept of “infinite” is out dated

[manic moat]

ok, but you still don't want any salt to reach 0, so this guide helps you never hit 0

[opaque sun]

Thats the outdated idea. Salt hitting 0 is same as you manually turning it off

[manic moat]

obviously this does show an end, but since it is never ending the chart has to stop somewhere, this still gives early players a good place to start

[opaque sun]

whole concept of infinite was back when ranking after certain point was considered impossible, so you would just stick there. Current refinery speed sources are so fast, its just point less to aim for an infinite

[manic moat]

if you were like me, and didn't have this chart early on, you had red way too low. you can level up silver and blue way too fast causing a shortage while you get red and green to catch up

[manic moat]

and this is end game, this chart is meant for new players to get a concept of how to begin

[red agate]

Prioritize getting better boats(3 atm) or upgrading the second god for some div progress

[manic moat]

who don't have fast refinery speeds

[opaque sun]

That chart was made for mid-end game. Beginner just still using it

[manic moat]

sailing is passive, don't need a player for that to keep running

[red agate]

I mean to spend the gold stuff

Since i dont have the good artifacts yet idk what to do

[opaque sun]

spend on sailing stuff first, blessings can wait

[manic moat]

as long as your boats are pushing with the 2 hour cap, keep going on div

[red agate]

Got it

[versed quail]

does rock have turn on/turn off cooldown?

[manic moat]

no, as long as the garden is clear of plants

[sharp pebble]

might have a small delay where it cant be clicked again

[cursive forge]

quick question I just started sailing where should I spend my gold bars at

[sharp pebble]

speed lets you go to further islands faster

[zealous niche]

More boats/captains are also good

[cursive forge]

I was just afking for a few hours

[sharp pebble]

upgarde first boat so more loot

then get more boat

[cursive forge]

do I want speed or loot

I just upgraded loot once

[sharp pebble]

you at minimum travel time?

[opaque sun]

order doesnt matter much honestly

[cursive forge]

what does it mean

[sharp pebble]

its about 2 hours one way

[opaque sun]

like just go from cheapest upgrades

[cursive forge]

ok reasonable

[opaque sun]

When your boat speed is 1/2 of the distance of the island distance, you reach minimal travel time with that ship (2hrs trip to come back with chest)

[cursive forge]

idk does it means

[opaque sun]

Any further speed upgrade does nothing if you reach minimal travel distance

[opaque sun]

Like click the island its going to

[sharp pebble]

if you look on idleonefficiency it has a sailing details tab as well

[opaque sun]

25m, so if a boat has 12.5 speed, its at minimal travel time

[cursive forge]

ohhhh ok

then I wasted 1 upgrade on speed

[sharp pebble]

not really haha

[opaque sun]

Well its useful on the next island

Just not immediately useful on the current island

[cursive forge]

yeye I heard that I want to get ancient artifact before moving on right

[sharp pebble]

eventually you mostly want speed until you can go 100mil

[opaque sun]

You will be getting way way way more gold anyway

[sharp pebble]

i'd say get basics before moving on

when you get boat 2 or 3 send the fastest boat to unlock next area

[cursive forge]

Im quite unlucky iirc its like 34% and I opened 4 without getting any

[opaque sun]

focus getting more captains/boats first than artifact farming

[cursive forge]

ok so I want gold bars instead for now

[opaque sun]

Captains are day gated so you want to hire each one everyday, and to do so you want to unlock the slots

[cursive forge]

so w5 is finally an idle game

[sharp pebble]

early ccaptains arent super good anyway, you get offered better ones later

[opaque sun]

Also work on w1-w4 stuff too meanwhile

[sharp pebble]

but still fill in captain slots asap

[cursive forge]

that means Ill still have to buy a new boat slot a new captain slot and a new captain to get another boat going

which is like mega expensive

I should probably just upgrade my lil boat

[sharp pebble]

idleon efficiency will also tell you the base stats of your captains when you wanna see which to replace

[opaque sun]

Its not that expensive than you think

you be getting golds in heaps real soon

[cursive forge]

maybe after I get my loot going

its at 9 atm

[sharp pebble]

some w5 quests have consumables which give sailing time

[cursive forge]

ye I have a few of the bottles

[sharp pebble]

using a few early is good to get up and running

[cursive forge]

Im down

wait before doing it

I should level my sailign skills right

[opaque sun]

its not like you can avoid raising sailing levels

Or intentionally raise it besides from doing more sailing

[cursive forge]

another quick question

most of these skills are passive right

like eagle eye

you dont have to do it on this character

[opaque sun]

They dont stack so yeah only need to raise on one guy

[cursive forge]

and I actually got a new artifact

[opaque sun]

If one SB has high talent level in those passives, other SB can stay at lv0

[cursive forge]

oh ye its real cheap I just got 150 gold bars in 1 chest xd

how can I get the green stuff

[fallen flax]

How does chemicl chaining on gaming work? Just save up a bunch of t5 chemicals and alternate between them and log?

[opaque sun]

use sprinkler to fish out any more chems, then use logs to fish more chems

Then when you expend ways to use sprinkeler and log, use a chem. Then harvest all non chems, then repeat from the first step of fishing out chems with sprinkler

Its not a sure way, but basically you use every methods to trigger a tier1 chem onto the board

[cursive forge]

I see so I probably shouldnt unlock new island yet

its way too slow

I should just farm island 1 first

[crisp silo]

Use chems to get more chems?

[opaque sun]

When lucky, you get multiple tier 1 chem to continue chain, when unlucky you run out of chems

[manic moat]

2 hours is what you are looking for on every boat trip. that is the mnimum time you can have

The green stuff is loot from the first island, sometimes it gold, sometimes its the loot of that island

[opaque sun]

using a chem when the board is clear can spawn another chem (basically same effect as sprinkler)

[cursive forge]

ye so I should just upgrade my boats on island 1 first cause island 2 need 125 and I only have 35

[manic moat]

each island will have regular loot and rare loot

[opaque sun]

Meanwhile you would click shovel after each use of log and chem so you get to dig a lot

You aim for minimal travel time yea, but dont be afraid to go to next island even if not

[cursive forge]

ok I see so basically I want at least 1 character to level the exp % for each skill in w5

ES SB DK

should've done that yesterday night

[fallen flax]

Okay, thank you for the explanation!

[fallen torrent]

Cryosnake statue done.. damn finally

[cursive forge]

I almsot used all my sailing bottles but that felt great haha

also I got all artifacts from island 1 already

Im basically just waiting to hit minimum sailing time before I go to island 2 right?

[opaque sun]

Or just go island 2

[cursive forge]

but its quite slow atm

[opaque sun]

As i mentioned above, its not an absolute must to get minimal travel time

[cursive forge]

ok then I get boat 1 to go to new island boat 2 farm island 1

[opaque sun]

You would aim to get ships to 2hr, but dont be afraid to go on 4-7hr voyage if needed

[cursive forge]

ok

its actually kinda messy when I try to see which one is my boat 1

on the map

they all looked the same

[opaque sun]

you can toggle the ui to show numbers and letters

[rapid shale]

ye "show identity" button

[opaque sun]

But when everyone is going to same island, it happens

[cursive forge]

o I missed that ok

[opaque sun]

You can also use the trash bin button to individually return certain captain to the dock

[cursive forge]

oo

that works thanks

I actually used quite a lot haha like 11

exactly 11

[gritty sierra]

I just unlocked all my warrior bubbles

And gained 1.2billion damage on my DK

[thorn marsh]

you gained 1.2b dmg from unlocking them?

[vagrant mountain]

1.2b without context doesn't really mean anything, it could be a 1000% increase or a 0.1% increase

[signal osprey]

1000% damage increase

[vagrant mountain]

sorry I meant grats!

[signal osprey]

I wouldn't mind a 1000% damage increase

[edgy tusk]

Which upgrade stone should I use on divine armor? V or sk from boss?

[opaque sun]

Unless you swimming with 50 divine armors in storage, just go shop stone

The expected gain from boss stone is slightly less of shop stone anyway

Only way to profit from boss stone is to do many trials to hope for some “variance” outside of the expected 68%

[signal osprey]

Just don't fail

[opaque sun]

That falls under “many trials”

[vagrant mountain]

if you got a 1000% dmg increase, you would probably get shadow banned for doing too much damage

[edgy tusk]

OK, thank you!

[signal osprey]

I don't think there's a shadow ban in place for damage currently

[opaque sun]

10x more damage isnt much if you put it that way

[signal osprey]

I think its just stats and class level

[vagrant mountain]

not much

[signal osprey]

And even if there is a damage one I'm not close enough to it

There are already people with well over 1000% damage on me

[opaque sun]

not much as in a threshold for shadowban

[signal osprey]

I'm not a quick slapper

[vagrant mountain]

true

[opaque sun]

very few reaching the realm of Q damage

And they arent shadow banned

[signal osprey]

I would just barely make it if I had 1000% damage. My SB is about 100T

[boreal dune]

how much dose guild affect

[vagrant mountain]

yes

[opaque sun]

enough to stay in one

[boreal dune]

I am in one and have beed for a long time but I dont think they play any more

dose leadership change if they go inactive to long like most games

[opaque sun]

not really

[boreal dune]

ok then would it be beneficial to switch to a better one or just chill

[opaque sun]

id say move since i dont think your current one is going to get any better, and they wont care

[boreal dune]

ok thanks

[opaque sun]

With you moving, it also helps to convince others to move on too

[amber dagger]

What should I focus in upgrading?

[opaque sun]

if not sure just upgrade from the cheapest thing

[vagrant mountain]

pong

[feral whale]

what the best item to sample by vman on speedrun?

[unkempt quest]

Monster drops

For vials

[feral whale]

ok i mean for max printer output

[eager sedge]

Just sample the things for refinery monster mats,and some vials if u have space after,or if u wanna upgrade any bubble specifically that costs monster mats u could sample that

[stoic silo]

is this dude worth getting?

[fallen torrent]

no

[fresh plank]

How to get to lv250 skill for Voidman?

[viral snow]

Book it to 250

[fresh plank]

Yeah, but max book from eldritch only gets me to 245

[solid epoch]

u cant get 250

[fresh plank]

So, none of us can unlock this then

[dapper prism]

Correct, because the max book is 245

[fresh plank]

Oof

[dapper prism]

The information on Lucky charms was obtained through Rule 3C i believe

[fresh plank]

Maybe on the 4th artifact tier update

[fallen torrent]

dang tought i had kattle neackle. nope... got obol xD

[hot sage]

Is this skill broken?

I've had it since lvl 1 on all characters but

[opaque sun]

still? Never was broken

[hot sage]

It's only appling to my wizard..

[opaque sun]

Your wiz has more exp probably from the specialized skill exp talent (purple guy face)

[hot sage]

good call

TY and I'll see myself out

lol

This doesnt work on divinty then?

[opaque sun]

Bubo will also get extra div exp if he raises that skill

Sadly happy dude doesnt work as div skill is not part of “all skills”

[fallen torrent]

Top bird has spoken

[opaque sun]

Its a “mage’s specialized skill”, but not an “all skills”

[hot sage]

good to know -TY

[fallen torrent]

so Elemental sorcerer Duo link is useless once we get doot?

[opaque sun]

The talent’s passive is useful, but yeah no need to worry what god to set on if using doot

[cursive forge]

imagine actually got doot

[fallen torrent]

i didnt get it tho

was just asking

[feral whale]

by vman to farm cards better to do it active or afk?

on resourse i mean

[eager sedge]

Afk

No one active skilling💀

[feral whale]

got it

[mild merlin]

I'm pretty sure skill cards don't even drop active

Just like the rare items

[opaque sun]

does better for exp, but yeah active doesnt drop any rares including cards

[flint belfry]

Do you have any tips to increase damage ? I'm stuck around 25-35m

[sick orchid]

When turning in statues is it better to turn them in batches of 20k? I have 4m

[opaque sun]

go back working on w1-w4 stuff including alchemy

[opaque sun]

Its more of turning in in small batches to level statues one by one. When a statue levels multiple levels at once, it skips applying Startue Exp bubble bonus for the in between levels

[lavish grotto]

Does the book shrine’s “all exp” not work either

[zealous niche]

Just did a vman sampling speedrun, and on suggmas, got the pop up “Error: You dropped the sample” a few times before it sampled the ashes

What caused that?

Can’t see anywhere in the wiki about sample errors either

[opaque sun]

wut

[viral snow]

That usually happens outside of speedrun

[unreal lake]

I didn't realize that the snail resets if you fail

[viral snow]

When you activate his AOE ability and try to sample outside of speedrun

[zinc torrent]

Finally got lvl 3 snail protecc. Could spam my saved mail in peace now.

[fast verge]

This is actually rigged

[zinc torrent]

Lvl 17 snail feels good

[zealous niche]

But why?

[zealous niche]

There’s a success or fail, then if fail it rolls again to see if it resets

[flint belfry]

what does (P) mean ?? Is that new .?

[zealous niche]

It is now passive due to your skill mastery from rift

[flint belfry]

wow

its like super OP

[zealous niche]

No need to equip any chopping cards again

[flint belfry]

❤️

So what should I equip ?

[zealous niche]

And if you get all skills to 300, you just need a single skilling preset with all skill bonuses

[flint belfry]

300 on each character ?!

[opaque sun]

there is a slight downside of passive cards cant be doubled by chips tho

[zealous niche]

300 across the account

[opaque sun]

Total levels. So 30 on average

[zealous niche]

Go back to the rift and have a look at the skill mastery bonus

If you click on a skill in there it shows what you get

[flint belfry]

Oh ok !

[zealous niche]

Nobody knows this?

[weary hinge]

do you have full sampling spaces

[viral snow]

Its just a bug
Game didn’t realize you were in speedrun probably
Because that error is what you get when you try to sample outside of speedrun

[zealous niche]

It had two slots occupied, rest empty

[zealous niche]

You can sample outside of speedrun? What do you mean you can’t

[viral snow]

Yes but without the bonus you’re using inside the speedrun
Thats why youre getting the error you described when you try to sample like in speedrun

[zealous niche]

Also this gives a different error, says something like no slots empty

[weary hinge]

i see

[viral snow]

Just take you vman
Activate his aoe and try to sample
You will get the same error

[zealous niche]

Ahh, alright

I did not

[opaque sun]

When mk value changes during speed run, you sometimes “drop samples” when the game detects sudden changes with the samples

[zealous niche]

That could fit since I activated aoe and sample quickly

[opaque sun]

It needs few seconds for the numbers to settle in

[torn thorn]

Statue farmin stats atm.. Not the best but workin on it

[solid epoch]

y u farmin on bubo?

[torn thorn]

i like him

and i ddont feel like setting up DK.

[opaque sun]

obviously not the best

[torn thorn]

all the other characters are off doing 1b kills on all the mobs in prep for W6 sadly. Only active one im using

DK orb is nice 😛 gotta get around to doing my DKs quests for statues

[bright current]

I just want my neck piece

[zinc torrent]

anyone knows if pots or beans are better for pen farming?

[old portal]

after getting all chars to all skills to level 75 its pretty much done with skill mastery right since last skill mastery bonus isnt that much needed

[zealous niche]

Pots are nice for glass shards at the same time

[zinc torrent]

i got enough shards, I just want my pens and keep farming ES statues^^

[zealous niche]

suspicion 😒

I’m not sure enough shards exists

[unreal fox]

hi guys, how to uncheck autoskill on shield pet?

[sharp timber]

Press on the shield

Should turn to a red x

[unreal fox]

ah ty

[bright current]

im gonna fuckin scream

[ocean fox]

Is the bonus speed from the anvil bubble multiplicative or additive with the anvil points upgrade

[opaque sun]

feels additive, or else my 5000% hammer hammer should be doing something more noticeable

But to be honest im not 100% sure on that

A non-doot holder can check it out more easily i suppose

[ocean fox]

Aight, I was just curious since I know I need to invest some points into capacity for now since my cap is only 600k with the biggest bag rn

[zealous niche]

Just delete the sheep

||please don’t||

[full plover]

yo guys, question, what are you all doing with ur characters on w5?
I mean I dont know if im allocating mine correctly
basically Ive 4 char on Divinity and the rest at the lab. is that right?

[rotund smelt]

i dont leave accounts running actively so i just have 1 dude farming money at last w5 map, have like 6 characters in lab since i unlocked all divinities, then vman just skilling, and 2 guys farming other mobs for drops and stuff

[jolly talon]

once I've fully upgraded the forge, is there any way to increase forging speed? 11 minutes for one lustre bar is too long...

the smeltin' erryday skill can be activated using candy?

[rotund smelt]

but ye for what youre doing now it souds fine, then when you get bear you can move lab guys out of lab and into divinity

[rotund smelt]

ye cause afk gains can trigger it, and candy is just afk gains

[jolly talon]

thx

[tacit tulip]

time to start the hell that is alien logs

[full plover]

but for me since Im still unlocking gods what should I do?
cause at the first days I feel right left chars on divinity for extra point but now it seems Im doing something wrong

[rotund smelt]

ye as i was saying after, what youre doing sounds fine, maybe have a guy start pushing or going back to do other things, and then when you get bear god unlocked you can move some guys out of lab into divinity

ah yeah this pin exists, maybe i will help #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[clear quartz]

all my homies hate alien logga

[opaque sun]

but someone gotta do it

My DK took the bullet to make that aline log ruby. Not by skilling, but “heck, ill just farm 395 gems and cardify”

[glossy dawn]

how to destroy my account

[zealous niche]

I started then stopped..
10 cards an hour..

[crimson thistle]

what should i be using for my foraging pet teams?

[opaque sun]

It basically runs down to fill as much alchemics and converters as much as possible

[crimson thistle]

dont think ive got those yet

[opaque sun]

without other context, cant really give any advice

[clear quartz]

halfway done with boxes, long way to go on twosoul and saw :c

[opaque sun]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[tacit tulip]

Think I should be done unlocking onyx statues today

[sinful mason]

anyone made it through w5 vman speedrun? i wana sample some spitfire but dont wana waste my speedrun if its not something really posible

my vmans damage is around 300b

[opaque sun]

Even if you ignored w1-w4 and went straight to w5, feels not feasible

[sinful mason]

yea didnt think so might just bite the bullet and test it anyway lol no idea why im hesatation so much

[opaque sun]

one possibility is you start at spitfire (normal world), use speed run, quickly use void and sample before you teleport to gmush

[sinful mason]

that works?

[untold saffron]

Ayee me too, if I candy bullseye

[glossy dawn]

how to remove my account

[opaque sun]

cant really

Beside just make a new one

[glossy dawn]

to cover that old

[opaque sun]

not sure why you want to. Made a 10 mages account by accident following some troll advice?

[untold saffron]

think of the oak samples though

[glossy dawn]

i want to quit

[untold saffron]

then log out

[opaque sun]

like just not play game?

[glossy dawn]

yes

[opaque sun]

Or are you like concerned of your personal information? Then ask lava to delete your data based on GDPR or whatever personal info protection law

If the question means how to stop your gameplay addiction, we cant help you with that

[glossy dawn]

so how to change i need that google account

[opaque sun]

what are you trying to do man.

[glossy dawn]

change games password

[opaque sun]

its pretty much tied to the account you linked with

so change the password of said service i suppose

if you are like an account seller trying to change linked account, welp idleon is not for your business

[sinful mason]

got to citringe

so bloody close lol

[safe harness]

for active... I reduced damage cards for some drop rate cards...my afk gains kill rate went down...but my active shouldnt as long as i stay in same multi kill tier? is that correct in my thinking?

everything is still one shot, gmush

thanks

started the 12 million gmush grind and should have it in a week, any best uses for starting out using voidwalker?

[tacit tulip]

The buffs vman provide are account wide and incredibly strong. You'll want to spend a few days speed running to set a high score then consider the skills that give these buffs.

Statue effect
Worship/trapping rewards
Multikill
Cooking speed
Damage
Attack skill enhancements

You can also do some shenanigans using the raw stat buffs but that's effort

[sullen nacelle]

wihch class s best for eclipse skull farm wcandy? ES?

[safe harness]

thanks for run down

[sullen nacelle]

w8 every 1b kill is *1.05 to the total damage? thats literally the biggest dmg increase in the game i guess

[flint belfry]

what is this class ?

[lost depot]

Seems like Seasalt fishing is bugged

[mild plume]

Not implemented yet

[lost depot]

Should be getting 65.1m exp

[flint belfry]

when new class will be implemente ?

[junior arrow]

its fine, but the xp an hour is shown if you have full efficiency

[flint belfry]

Do you guy have the roadmap of development ?

[junior arrow]

whenever lava feels like it, we have no idea

[flint belfry]

ok

[lost depot]

Oh is that a fishing thing? Because mining doesn't display like that afaik

[junior arrow]

not sure if the other fishing spots do it as well, but yea its how it works there for sure

[frosty silo]

how do ppl get 16-20 DR i cant get over 8DR and l think om kinda lategame

[flint belfry]

got this, not sure if its up to date

[lost depot]

Obols, prayers, alchemy bubbles, lab chips + cards

[frosty silo]

l got all that xD

[lost depot]

I'm barely hitting 9-10 DR with crappy alchemy

[opaque sun]

#💖future-content-blog message

[magic oyster]

Did you forget to shell out the $$$ for exclusive drop rate bonuses ?

[frosty silo]

what exclusive DR bonus

[lost depot]

?

[magic oyster]

On an unrelated note - is it me or is active BM even slower to level than AFK

[flint belfry]

Thanks ! ❤️

[opaque sun]

the island expedition bundle give multiplicative 1.2x dr

Applied directly onto the account

[lost depot]

Make sure you have the EXP bubble equipped and all your crystal bonuses set up

I think the Droppin Loads bubble caps at 30% no?

[junior arrow]

#1141880730411094106 message

[opaque sun]

Hardcap is 30%

Realistic value you can get is like 28% ish

[frosty silo]

thx for all answer willl look this up

[magic oyster]

Yeah, the bundle bonus is pretty big, you aren't getting 16+ without it I think

Lol, I ran SB for 2 days, looked at count and went 'nooope'.

[finite sparrow]

Is SB naturally better at catching than BM?

[opaque sun]

Due to talents yes obviously

[tacit tulip]

It's not naturally better but if you use talents yes

[finite sparrow]

They have exact same cards, gear, etc but hunter is much worse at samples

✅

[opaque sun]

thats what talents are for

[sharp wind]

Whats the best class to use for candying w3 statues? SB?

[opaque sun]

Also the reason why BB is better fisher than DK

SB is not used for any drop related thing

but for candy it doesnt matter too much as dr differences arent that different by class

theoretical best statue rate will be vman using looty curse

[sharp wind]

Alr i use SB then forge talent not bad

[opaque sun]

SB is just “since im afk candy, might as well get lot of values out of it”

[glossy rain]

Are there any tips for farming these crazy obol droprate pages? Like, did you grind them out all at once or over time?

[tacit tulip]

SB does also have a DR talent too

Most do them all at once. The more you do, the easier they get

[glossy rain]

True kinda

What class to do?

[tacit tulip]

Pop obols with es, dice obols with dk

[glossy rain]

I see

Thx

[tacit tulip]

Do pops first if you don't have the cookie lab chip for extra crystal mobs

[glossy rain]

Y sadly i just missed it 😅

[tacit tulip]

With DK you max crystal chance with DR and sit on sand pots

[glossy rain]

Thx man

[tacit tulip]

And remember: most of us did this before those classes were out, using mman 🥲

It's so much easier these days lol

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/6x7FYpv.png

[tacit tulip]

one final thing, reroll your pop obols when they're bronze so you get +1%. When upgrading an obol the left obols reroll stats are inherited in the final obol

you CAN do it later but the cost of rerolling is based on the rarity, so cheaper to do it asap

Same for dice once you start on them

[opaque sun]

Oops sorry. Misremembered it. 40% hardcap

[solid epoch]

ye

[mortal compass]

Just venting.... Goat took me 25%, 25%, 25%, 25%, 1%, 1% and finally 10%...

[prisma furnace]

Ive just been spamming the left sacrifice, Till I had a 100%

[mortal compass]

Yeah.... Someone said I should do that instead

I thought I looked it up that you spend more if you spam the lower, but I guess not

[prisma furnace]

I Mean you might as well get Lucky on a 1% as you might fail a 50%

[solid epoch]

this is the correct strat

[prisma furnace]

I got kattlekruk on a 1% lul

[mortal compass]

Well you're about 50x less likely to get lucky on the 1% than unlucky on the 50% lol

[signal osprey]

Not really because those are just the normal odds. If you're going off odds then luck has nothing to do with it

[prisma furnace]

Nah it is always 50% either you get it or not xD

[mortal compass]

You right! You either get lucky or you don't!

[frail cosmos]

Anyone has a list of what gives div gain?

[warped grail]

idleon insight

[whole lintel]

I'm at moltis in w5 and I like actually don't know how I'm going to keep going, I have nobisect and the lab bonus activated, maxed accuracy, 20% kpk from bubble, fibers activated (0 multikill) at 35%, the stacked skulls giving me 35%, and more and I'm still at just 5k per hour, it would take me 56 days to get to kattlekruk. Do I just suck it up and go commit to getting the void and luster weapons and gear?

[willow sorrel]

Ur focus shouldn’t be pushing w5 to get to kattle, but rather pushing w5 simply for more class exp

U need to just go back to other skills and focus on them for a while

And start consolidating

[opaque sun]

Go backtrack and work on w1-w4 stuff

[willow sorrel]

The gear isn’t gonna give u much benefits at all

[opaque sun]

The game isnt supposed to be a “i can kill the last world like how i rushed through w1-w4”

[willow sorrel]

Main reason to rush worlds is to get access to the new skills quicker

Not to get to the boss

[opaque sun]

“How do all those people got damage?” Those people been grinding previous world stuff for months or even years because it just takes that long

[whole lintel]

world 6 soon

[opaque sun]

4x dr and 1.8x exp, yeah real rushed

In a way its a feat that you reached there as lv 153

[whole lintel]

i got to w5 in like a month and a half it was lightning speed comparatively

[pearl cedar]

Recommended strat is usually get to newest world as quickly as possible, which you did, unlock the bonuses then go back and learn the mechanics and beef up the account from previous worlds

[opaque sun]

The town was the most important unlock

Combat zone not as much

[whole lintel]

the exp is really good

[pearl cedar]

No need to push newest world until you've fixed your account progression. And then pushing combat in new world will be about 100x faster

Levels don't really matter tbh

[whole lintel]

im getting everyone to level 120 or so for talent points, it's a lotta points

[opaque sun]

exp wise i think few maps back are better

[pearl cedar]

Probably just do the first map dudes quest on everyone and that will get you plenty of levels for now

[opaque sun]

do note his exp multiplier

[pearl cedar]

Yeah he's prob better off going back to w3/4 and buboing for a bit

[coarse harness]

Heeeey a real noob question; Can I unequip attacks? I don't want them to eat my MP in auto mode 😄 (oh shit this is w5 sry`)

[lament jasper]

Yes

[opaque sun]

amazed how people can get into w5

[tacit tulip]

typically you only want to push deep into a world if your sheet damage is high enough to multikill the mob you're on.

the volcano mobs have 200m health so you want your upper damage to be 400m, currenly it's 5.9, essentially you need to find ~80 times the damage

agree with the others, your efforts wouldbe much better spent elsewhere. You don't need to be at kattlekruk yet

[lament jasper]

Assign attack n drag em out

[opaque sun]

Just drag the talent out of the bar

[tacit tulip]

has to be done when in assign attack mode

[coarse harness]

Got it, thanks, enjoy W5 guys 😂

[tacit tulip]

See you again when you get here

No joke I'm terrified for w6's release. I thought w4 was gonna be enough of a wall to deter people completely rushing but they still managed it

portal reqs will likely be lowered again but I cannot imagine someone rushing w6 as things are

[signal osprey]

Thats a good thing

[tacit tulip]

It is but we'll also have to deal with the grumpy gits 😄

At least atm we can say "there's nothing past kattle go away"

[signal osprey]

Getting to the last world in 2 weeks is silly

[tacit tulip]

Think my true goal before w6 comes out is 1b deathnote on all maps

I'll be happy at that point

[chrome tiger]

i'm only getting 40 oceanmans an hour. rip

[signal osprey]

You're definitely missing something

Make sure you have 100% efficiency and are using catching food

[tacit tulip]

Speed, efficiency to 100%, afk gains, drop rate

Should be everything

[signal osprey]

After that run as much afk as you can and use drop rate cards

[tacit tulip]

Though I'd hope someone farming onyx would have 100% eff for w2 bugs lol

[signal osprey]

I would too but I've seen some wild stuff coming out since onyx dropped

[glacial venture]

dont assume anything good here^^

need keys for 27 more nm troll kills...stupid quest^^

hm

if we finish royal wurm quest now and lava adds w4 quests later on....will that undo our wurm quest?

[tacit tulip]

shouldn't do

he might make the new quests required to finish iot

but I can't imagine he'll revert quest

[signal osprey]

I cant imagine he'll even add new W4 quests. Pretty sure the point of this update was to "finish" the world

[tacit tulip]

Assume they're asking cause of the stilted seeker at the end of w4

[signal osprey]

The most I would expect is new meals or pet breeding as we get more worlds

[elfin cape]

Can't wait to instantly finish new meals on release

[glacial venture]

first you must fight

in a 2 hour fight^^

[elfin cape]

Fuck, I forgot that was a thing

[glacial venture]

with even more rng

[elfin cape]

Also the harvest time will take ages for a single spice

[elfin cape]

W5 pets will be OP, trust

[tacit tulip]

Might try rolling a 100k rattler while we wait

[glacial venture]

do you really think he can come up with more pet skills?

[opaque sun]

Already prepared 150k combat team pets

[elfin cape]

I should do that, instead of using lustre eggs on whatever shiny colors I want

[glacial venture]

hm....breeding....isnt that what i always forget to do? besides cooking?^^

[signal osprey]

I used to be the same but last night I forced myself to finally get 75 breeding for my skill mastery

[opaque sun]

my bb is basically my breeding manager as he also spends the eggs after using ladles

[glacial venture]

im at 59^^

[elfin cape]

4500 eggs enough for 67~75 breeding? Or do I need more?

[opaque sun]

4500 normal eggs, not sure

4500 incubated rare eggs, probably enough

[signal osprey]

Should be pretty close at least if its not enough

I did 71-75 with like 3500 eggs

Actually a bit less because I still have a couple hundred left over

[elfin cape]

How big is this for exp?

[opaque sun]

like better than nothing

[signal osprey]

Its not great but you also dont really have many other options

[opaque sun]

Maybe saves like 50 eggs to reach 75

[signal osprey]

Max the shattershell perk before you start leveling that. You get a ton of free eggs

[opaque sun]

and also make sure to do the breed pig quest on all when upgrading

[signal osprey]

Yeah thats very important now with the W4 worm quest line requiring each character to do all W4 quests

[opaque sun]

Or else might lock out getting w4 trophy (5000 gold food coupon) until a next major hoard of dead dna

[twilit goblet]

any tips for the rift to do 60 worm hole for ES at wurms? my ES doing 36 only at the ledge

[fast verge]

12 dr lets fucking goooO

[opaque sun]

max the wormhole talent for longer duration, else just stack damage i guess

[twilit goblet]

probably more dmg is the only way, dont think max wormhole duration can fit another 30 in haha

[elfin cape]

That's an interesting set of gear

[opaque sun]

Also which ledge? Like the very left side? As the screen doesnt suggests so

[elfin cape]

[twilit goblet]

oh i used the right side

[signal osprey]

100b damage is pretty low for the last rift. Lowest I've seen is about 120b and that was with pretty high level talents

[twilit goblet]

let me try the left side lmao

[glacial venture]

best advice for ES users...DONT use midas prayer

[elfin cape]

I used the one with the rope

[opaque sun]

The small platform near the rift npc

[fast verge]

i mean it works fine

[opaque sun]

Smaller the platform, narrows down the enemy and meteor spam

[twilit goblet]

rightt, ill try it again here

[signal osprey]

At least get some rings

[twilit goblet]

if it fails ill just wait till i get more dmg

[glacial venture]

i think my es had about 100b when he did the 60 kills

but was damn close....

[elfin cape]

Get some rings and Kattle helmet for more DR

[opaque sun]

If it gets to like say 55 kills or so, just try few more time

[fast verge]

you assume i have kattle helmet 😔

[fallow aurora]

bruh another big nugget

[glacial venture]

nope...he said to get it^^

[fast verge]

fair
im also really far from getting it

like far far

[elfin cape]

It's easy to craft, except Troll

[lavish forge]

is the recipe unlocks in taskboard world 5 out or is it not out yet?

[elfin cape]

Troll is kinda hard early

[fast verge]

my charcters havent reached w5 boss expect one

and its gonna take a few days before that happens

for the quest

[opaque sun]

lava pretty much forgot about task pt shop recipes

[elfin cape]

Ah, ok

[lavish forge]

thanks for followup 😄

[glacial venture]

just spam the chaos one

[elfin cape]

Would be cool to eventually get a new boss dificulty, for insane amount of keys, but amazing drops

[glacial venture]

best and easiest class do it is dk i think

[signal osprey]

Thats what nightmare was supposed to be

[twilit goblet]

38 at 120b dmg

[elfin cape]

Yeah, that's the problem

[twilit goblet]

ill be back next week

[signal osprey]

It was said to be the most rewarding difficulty

"Rewarding"

[opaque sun]

i can see the community downvote they made like when nightmare was added

[signal osprey]

[elfin cape]

I mean, i'd like to see dungeon be like that

[signal osprey]

Sounds like your attack talents are underleveled. I cleared it at 130b damage

[elfin cape]

At least he could balance it

[glacial venture]

the cost outweight the gains by far...in my opinion

[opaque sun]

fun fact, nightmare was supposed to be a QoL way to spend multiple keys at once with multiplied rewards

[twilit goblet]

averaging around 245 attack talent, imma max more tho

[opaque sun]

until lava changed mind to say “you only get one gem, and its purely for cape farming”

[elfin cape]

On IS, it's better to kill NM mobs, but here you only get like, 1-2 gem/keys rolls

So you have to kill normal Chiz for the 319618612th time

[opaque sun]

Done with cape farming kattle, how am i going to spend my 20k keys on normal

[signal osprey]

Low key thats the best part of the kruk update

Pretty sure its a second or two faster than chiz

New normal farming strats

[opaque sun]

kattle the gem farm, until w6 arrive and we dont farm wurms anymore

[signal osprey]

True but we'll have many thousands of keys saved up by the time W6 gets here

It'll take awhile to use them all

[opaque sun]

w4 keys getting more love for the 5000 gold food coupon quest

[elfin cape]

Yeah, but it'll take, what, 30 weeks for that quest on all characters?

[signal osprey]

Can't wait to get 35k more sailing food out of all of those

[opaque sun]

Can always dream 5000 kebabs

[elfin cape]

True

Imagine lottery winner getting 50k

[tough wasp]

What's the best way to get in contact to get my account back I had to reformat my hard rive and when I used steam and the same login to get logged in nothing happened it kept me in the tutorial.

[gentle furnace]

most important talent is lightning and tornado

[opaque sun]

maybe your email, dunno

[steady beacon]

is kebab the best food to hope for?

[opaque sun]

Its hard to farm them, and quite impactful for getting 5000

[elfin cape]

Man, I'd kill (ingame) for 5k kebabs

[opaque sun]

Other foods are irrelevant stats to begin with, or can farm shit tons anyway

[signal osprey]

Kebabs you can farm a shit ton in W2 colo though

Realistically all the gold foods are either farmable or bad

[opaque sun]

5000 still kind of a feat

[elfin cape]

I hate W2 colo, takes ages, even without prayers

I just do W3, way faster

Being able to get the kebabs without doing W2 colo, is a dream come true

Or without doing 10 picnics everyday (fuck that too)

[fast verge]

the pain of crystal farming with out choco 😔

i suppose ill just active 3days

[opaque sun]

farm gems, buy chips

[ruby hamlet]

i feel completely gated at K level of green bits, i have no clue how to unlock higher things atm i have

• DK with maxed (but not library books) skills for gaming
• lv 210/207/11 fertilizer
• 6 mutations unlocked (keep trying at 2-3% for the 7th but no luck so far), lv 151 evolution
• X4369 gold nugget and shovel at lv 114
• Squirrel lv 97 with 2.97plant/54.1% speed multi
• Seashell lv 75
• Bog log and pong controllers unlocked (i couldn't find where pong score gives multiplier even though i read it somewhere?)

I'm still only getting ~50K to 150K green or so per full round (maxed time garden + using bog log for a second time), i have unlocked all the bits purchases up to the 200K one but the next one at 40M feels completely out of reach and after that it's just outlandish.

Am i missing a big gain mechanic somewhere?

[fast verge]

been chip gambaing for 4 weeks

no choco

[opaque sun]

waiting around for christmas choco rotation isnt really a good plan

[elfin cape]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-skill-issue-skill-gif-24485644

[fast verge]

sailing

prob

[elfin cape]

Just get a 200k nugget

[ruby hamlet]

while that would only be nice that would only be a 50X multiplier, i feel like i need a 50 000X....

[tacit tulip]

Getting gaming zooming again requires snail.

Until then you basically have to rely on artifact multipliers getting you high enough to get snail

Roll your mutations often at low % (0.1). There's diminishing returns on increasing DNA and you're gimping your progress hard

[elfin cape]

But seriously, go do achievements, one of the easiest ways to get lots of gaming multi

[tacit tulip]

eg: for the cost of a 1% roll you can probably do 20 0.1% rolls - this is higher total odds of hitting the mutation unlock

[paper sail]

@dapper prism Were you the one with the expected incoming damage calculator? Trying to see how much I need to atom FMJ to comfortably wear both Beefy and MK against Tremor Crystals on Bubo with 130k HP

[glacial venture]

just clear board and gamble

[ruby hamlet]

What's snail / how do i unlock it?
I'm not far on artifacts i need to check i am a bit over halfway in island unlocks but i only have the non upgraded version of most arts.
I'm rolling my mutations every round, are you suggesting i optimize by picking plants 1 by 1 to try to mutate between each? THat sounds grindy but if it's a big boost i'm willing 👀

[tacit tulip]

Nah, once per round is enough, I'm surprised evergreen is at 2-3% after one harvest all tho

[elfin cape]

Tbh, Beefy is pretty meh, I'd say just get more damage if you want more MK tiers

[tacit tulip]

snail is your next box unlock

[elfin cape]

And not invest in FMJ

[ruby hamlet]

there's a multi for total achievements or you mean just check out the ones that give multi?

[elfin cape]

There's a multi, first superbit unlock

[elfin cape]

1,03x per achievement

[ruby hamlet]

600 billions i couldn't even grind out 60 millions 😭

[tacit tulip]

tbh based on what you've said artifacts are probably your main limiting factor rn

[fast verge]

speaking of artifacts

[ruby hamlet]

Oh i had forgotten, i assume that stacks pretty well, i have a good chunk but as it is multiplicative i guess the more you get the better it is?

[elfin cape]

Yeah, getting to snail is sad

[fast verge]

i have this bs

liek

wha

[elfin cape]

It's 1,03^X achievements

[glacial venture]

yes its way better..he got "only" 24 more achievements than me...but basicly double my multi

[ruby hamlet]

most of the achievements i don't yet have seem out of reach (like all the mini game ones, i suck at anything fast paced /skill based 😅 )

[green eagle]

i've come down to this.. the last statues for me to onyx. idk which one i want to do first lol

[tacit tulip]

oh, and as you asked, pong multiplier shows on pong itself

[tacit tulip]

construction technically means you level up cons faster 👀

[ruby hamlet]

omg... how did i miss this 😆 seems like i should try to get a better score i only have 2.3K and that's 1.5multi 👀

[green eagle]

yes, but it is also so miniscule haha i wish it was better

[tacit tulip]

almost done myself

[zinc bison]

Is there a clean way to assign sailors to specific islands rather than just clicking the small boats and hoping my fat finger gets the right one?

[fast verge]

no

[opaque sun]

like use the trash can to return the specific captain

[fast verge]

[fast verge]

imean i guess that

[edgy tusk]

Have some gaming questions. Is the value loss from the rock worth the speed? Does leveling up the pong controller do anything? Weird that u can spend resources on it if it does nothing

[zinc bison]

Doesn't help when they're all grouped up.

[cerulean hemlock]

UI looks better like that imo

[fast verge]

yes, no

[cerulean hemlock]

return to home first.

[tacit tulip]

It has uses, I'm lazy with gaming though so don't use it

No, levelling it does nothing

[opaque sun]

trash can lets you select specific one to return to dock

If your finger is fat enough like half the screen, then i dont know

[cerulean hemlock]

That's only if you use IOS tbf

[zinc bison]

Alright, guess I'll just keep mass assigning.

[opaque sun]

the ship menu, trash can as in fire a captain allows them to return to dock before firing

that ignores your “ship bunched up”

[zinc bison]

That's a perfect workaround! Thank you @opaque sun

[cerulean hemlock]

I love how we're having a discussion about unemploying a h~~ard-working ~~lazy worker

[zinc bison]

I'm not firing them just asking to speak with them in the back for a moment while providing no context.

[opaque sun]

you just speak awkward to your workers
“hey bob, you know we can always replace you”

Calls him to back office to give him a raise and a better position

[fossil urchin]

didn't realize not waiting until the nugget changed visually at the top was really important, closed out of my gaming tab in excitement and lost my 35k nugget upgrade from 7k

[tall horizon]

Doesn't claim until it finishes increasing and fades away

[cerulean hemlock]

Aka death 😉

[fossil urchin]

unfortunately not made clear anywhere ingame i don't think

[cerulean hemlock]

With one click 🙂

[fallow aurora]

I made the same mistake when I got to w5, but thankfully it was only a small nugget increase

[green eagle]

but why would you close gaming out of excitement lmao

gaming has the opposite effect

[fossil urchin]

wanted to finish up other stuff before going back and upgrading stuff or something, i don't know

[green eagle]

you close the game out of repeatedly banging your head against the same wall until you cross the magic barrier

[glacial venture]

dont bang your head on american walls

you will only land next door

[cerulean hemlock]

As a Taiwanese American, I approve this joke

[fossil urchin]

well, i know that now i lost the nugget

it slipped through my fingers into that barrier and i slammed my head on it

[flint belfry]

Does someone reach 1M ?

[signal osprey]

A few people have

[green eagle]

banging your head on walls outside of the US only cause concussion or loss of conscious

[flint belfry]

Wow this is really insane. Don't know how much active time they spent

[signal osprey]

I think at current speeds its roughly 40-45 days or so

[flint belfry]

Oh ok ! Its still insane 45days active playing XD
And ... Do you think bonus is summed if you get 2 Siege Breaker ?

[opaque sun]

40 days active playing isnt the hard part

40 days behind on DK bean farming is

[flint belfry]

I don't get the difference.. you spent 40 days in allcase

[opaque sun]

The kills are accountwide, but cant active 2 sb at once

[signal osprey]

If you farm on 2 different SB's it adds their total kills together

[glacial venture]

in my country there is a saying....der kluegere gibt nach...english translation...the smarter gives in....now bang your head on an american wall and know who is the smarter one^^

[cerulean hemlock]

We call them Dot

[opaque sun]

so getting 2nd SB doesnt make the plunder kill faster

[cerulean hemlock]

Which is sad

[signal osprey]

Dot played the game too efficiently to do that. 1m plunderous is objectively not worth it unfortunately

[cerulean hemlock]

Imagine activing two at the same time.

[opaque sun]

unless you mean to say you have a different version of idleon that you can active on multiple characters at once

[cerulean hemlock]

Dot is the OG in our hearts

[signal osprey]

Split screen active play is in companion batch 2

[gaunt forge]

is there a atom collider upgrade priority guide?

[cerulean hemlock]

THat's exactly what I was going to say lol

[cerulean hemlock]

Atoms ----> bubble levels good

Hmmm stamp costs

I can't think of anything off the top of my head

[signal osprey]

And then in W6 when lava adds the companion doubler lab chip you can get a 3rd active character slot

[opaque sun]

1 level of library atom is high priority

[cerulean hemlock]

!itpsandtricks also, anything I missed out in here?

!tipsandtricks

[obtuse orbit]

🚫 AAAAAA, that command is disabled in this channel.

[cerulean hemlock]

AWw cmon. 😦

Ah well

WarGod made it in genchat only I suppose

[true obsidian]

felt great and bad at the same time...

[finite sparrow]

Is it a great idea to throw nobisect on all chars and push w4 on all of them?

Until last map

[opaque sun]

its viable in a way, but usually a bad idea

[finite sparrow]

So what's a better idea

[cerulean hemlock]

I have another strat

[cerulean hemlock]

Get Doot.

[finite sparrow]

No ty

[true obsidian]

we can use candy in w4 now so its a bad idea

[glacial venture]

took a while...but dreadnaught skull done on all chars...

[cerulean hemlock]

Hmmm.. multi kill per tier keychains?

[opaque sun]

Since we got 2 resets, its viable if used correctly

Like nobi all, candy through, then reset back

[finite sparrow]

How smart is it to use candy to push w4 on all chars

Instead of using for something else

[opaque sun]

anything you can use candy to progress its good

1 hr used here is still 1 hr used later somewhere else

[paper sail]

Pretty meh. There isn't much reason for EVERY character to have EVERY map opened in w4.

[signal osprey]

Onyx quest is at flombs so there kinda is a reason

[true obsidian]

how much lv is a cap for this?

[opaque sun]

and rift and stuff

[signal osprey]

And the worm quest requires troll kills

[paper sail]

Yes, granted, but.. If they're asking, they're nowhere near ready for it.

[gentle furnace]

119% is 9900

[opaque sun]

I got it to 115% effect which is around 1500

[paper sail]

Candying 1 character through W4 to start W5 skills is great. Personally, after that, I wouldn't candy everyone unless you have a particular reason.

[cerulean hemlock]

Soft cap you mean?

I mean with atoms you can go anywhere

[true obsidian]

yeah

[cerulean hemlock]

I'd presume.... 750?

[true obsidian]

hmm...this said 210

for 90%

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm above the definition of stupid!

[opaque sun]

Thats 90% of alch effect, not 90% of bubble

[finite sparrow]

Would be good to reach clams on all chars to help get tools

[signal osprey]

90% of the bubbles max is 630

95% would be 1330

[true obsidian]

yes... 9 times in a row made this possible

[signal osprey]

And the correct level is 9900 because its a printable bubble so no reason to not go for 99%

[opaque sun]

will take time to hour click to 99%, but yeah toilet paper isnt bad to print anyway

[signal osprey]

Actually wait I was lied to its not even 9900

That one caps at 6930

[vagrant mountain]

day 5

[paper sail]

I'm up to 1551 without ever using Atoms on it

[glacial venture]

greenstack them

[true obsidian]

i want to improve my Vman dmg for the w5 boss quest (i'm at 1000m dmg now, can't even tickle it :<) what i should upgrade now?

[glacial venture]

alchemy

skills

dmg max lvls

[vagrant mountain]

only 1b dmg with 1500 quick slap?

[granite grove]

why did you use atoms on warrior 6th bubble?

[grizzled elk]

that surprised me too

the quick slap part

[true obsidian]

pretty much yes...can go to 2B if i max dmg as possible but still bad

[fast verge]

what is that cc

[vagrant mountain]

your movespeed is low af

[glacial venture]

its not low

350 is max

[vagrant mountain]

it is low for scaling purposes

[granite grove]

visual cap only iirc

[glacial venture]

everything above that only benefits archers

[signal osprey]

Quick slap gives damage to every class

[grizzled elk]

actual move speed is capped, if you raise the stat it still boosts quick slap

[opaque sun]

seems like investing into slap too early

[granite grove]

stat calc has no cap like for map kill capping or quick slap

[vagrant mountain]

or no statue levels

[true obsidian]

after boost

[fast verge]

my orb only gets to 300 😔

[granite grove]

altho do note that speed kinda bugs visual effects out again at really high move speed value despite supposed 350 visual cap

[fast verge]

also a solid of 2 days active dk can get me to 20k power 😔
if it works it works i suppose

[finite sparrow]

I just got ancient artifact that gives 1.3x gold from trades... It was between that one and hippo. Why am i this unlucky

[paper sail]

I'd take a look at LUK sources, such as the Conjocharmo stamp.

[vagrant mountain]

that's better, you got basically +50% dmg from movespeed

[cerulean hemlock]

Archer better for it though

[cerulean hemlock]

Good 'ol beans

[vagrant mountain]

quick slap is the best base damage bubbles for every single class