#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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same lul
Same
i had too
Lol
but if you ever farm on your bb...do it on the second one
for some reason super chow only counts if you do it on your second if you have 2
My 7th to 9th characters are very neglected
Wait wtf
easiest fix...make one bb a dk^^
It works fine if you only have one BB right?
Focus bubo CC a bit, level up liquid rate, then GT, then XP is easy on alts. aim for something simple at first like level 225
Class swap tokens
I don't think I knew that either
Super chow is with the 1 bill kills tho right
i couldnt swap because i have 2 BB and 2 DK so i just farmed all the super chows on 2nd bb
Oh
Eclipse is 1b, which is for the whole account
Imma make my tenth character a sb then
i hope we get up to 13 slots so i can just do 2 of each class then 1 Vman
in my opinon sb benefits the most from onyx statues
is SB statue talent for crit damage?
what cards for max dr set?
tips and tricks has the spreadsheet with all cards
its the movement speed that sb benefits
No vman is crit damage. SB just scales with movespeed and speed has always been best scaled with statues
i thought i was bugging, i knew it was just 7 smh
more mv from feasty and running statue
oh that makes sense
We def need more because of the elite classes that havenโt been announced yet
saved up all my summer clams from the event to spawn it all in on nightmare kattlekruk, pray for me
still got two days till it ends
Pretty sure it won't work
already tested it
the dmg orb number goes up
What does that do
Oh
Nice
Yeah the orb will stack but it won't do anything to the boss loot
its done it for other bosses?
I thought it was found out that artificial orb boosting for boss rooms doesn't work
Yeah
it functions the same as vman's skill right? and the vman one doesnt work if i recall
shit then g mush finna get these hands
turns out my es with 6.8 dr at snakes is better for power statue then my 1/47 crystal chance dk by 4 times ๐
the 2x loot skill
ive gotten my dk highest for gmush with over 400 kills
Save em for minibosses lol
so this will go crazy
y would u use them on the gmush map lmao
New minibosses will come eventually
oh lol
actually you right
ive been using them on Dr defacus and boops since those cards are annoying af to get to 5*
i hold for now, statement retracted
I wouldn't wait on new bosses
the other minibosses are pretty easy due to collo
if a new miniboss comes in w5 or w6, its likely to spawn in the w5/w6 collo anyways
really? i just do the 500 gem farming every week, 75% of bosses 5 star rn
which makes the cards easy to farm
i have a feeling no w5 collo
for that we need a w5 or w6 colo first
How do u do 500 gem per week
look on the youtbe
you gotta be going hammer tyhough so heads up
u can farm way more than 500/week if u run normal kattlekruk keys
K also how do u use the dk talent for boops
food daily already gives a lot if you do it on every char
Not at Kruk yet
def, but im tryna get the last 3 red scarfs rn so for now, nah
u could do the same with chizoar or troll then
you dont lol
Huh
maestro
i use the dk orb on boops, i just spawn my daily stuff at the top platform
kill them all, then go down there
like crystals and the clams?
yeah the clam mobs
does this box stack on every character ? (the shrine charge rate)
it doesnt stack, just enables that effect for each indiviual character.
so like if you dont do it on one, youre losing gains
depends on how many clams you use
id say as long as u hit around 100+ on the orb it might be a bit better
Do I need to be in lab even tho I have doot
vman does get higher card odds so u gotta account for that
Oh
i left them all in there till they all turned lvl 80+on both
can you do monolith quest with all characters for max rewardsa?
oh niceee canโt wait
thank god
yea but not really
the 100k pickups are a lil tough for non crystal farmers
but mining copper is always an option
Not copper.. highest mining ore that's 100% effy gives way more statues
@regal cloak
ehhh
ok so monolith quest, last one, needs 100k statues pickups
To what free said.
For non statue farmers that are terrible like BB, BM etc. you do mining for woodcutting statues, you do it on the highest mining ore you can, that's 100% effy.
so for non crystal farmers, this is a pain in the ass
ye, if you want to lvl up divinty for the blessing buff(doot doesnt give that)
oh, thats nothing, i do that in less than 5 hrs
i just need a lot of power statues
yea on a DK it is ez
For some classes, the point is those 100k statues on some alts are hard..
You need the 100k statue quest on alts to get the extra 10k kachow/xp statues
pretty much the only relevant source of kachow statues
the 100k pickups is alt binded, so it needs to be that alt to pickup all, transfering inventory does not work
Yeh, 10x 3 a day . That's 30 a day if you do the quest chain on every alt daily xD
vs 10k per alt doing that "easy" 100k statue quest
thats fine i have tons of candy
Yeh, the point was just noting the best way to get those 100k statues..
i mean i have a decent stack of 24hrs and 12hrs, however if at any point i have to resort to the 2 or 1hrs i will cry real tears
the 1s and 2s are the most commonly dropped, so ppl normaly use them first
but u do u
1s and 2s only useful for when you still need breeding spirals/dna things. Or short time anvil stuff ig.
Decent?
hmmm is ES or Bubo better for farming keys on w4/w5.
I feel like it should be ES but bubo maybe just clears too much still
Please never use balance of precision 
Es w4, dk w5 for keys
Especially if you have 4x the required accuracy, you're just losing damage for free
Reall DK for w5? kind of surprising honestly.
If u can do wurms with dk, orb is nutts for keys. Es the portal mobs health scales too high to take advantage of the drop rwte
W5 portal mobs' hp scale extremely hard, so you can't get a lot of use from the portal
Bubo is fine as well if you want to do some alch
Dk if setup gets better keys and cons gains, so pick your fave
Is there a cog layout somewhere? Didn't see it in the pins
Tyvm
Hey guys, are there no green damage numbers for damage over 10 million? I have 170% crit chance, so 70% chance for mega crits, and yet the only green numbers that seem to pop up are ones that have damage lower than 10 million. The other numbers are all still purple with the crowned M 
Not on mobs except for on the event bosses (that are capped at 10 dmg)
There was some update where something changed it, and was never fixed after that ๐คท
Maaan, seems like such a simple thing to fix, and I'd really love if my numbers were proper green ๐ฆ Maybe will be fixed eventually?
A few things are sometimes an easy fix, but we shall see ๐ฆ
Only if your code is a mess to begin with
something as simple as colorcoding an integer can't be too complicated?
and in this case?
unfortunately lava code came to bite himself in the ass
Lava is hell-bent on being a solo-dev, its all his code
bro kinda lazy to solve that one thing considering that green numbers literally do not exist after a point in the game
Well they do not exist only right now, because it does not work as it should
Lava has interesting priorities to say the least
to be fair, green numbers were implemented in times of less than a mil of dmg
or at least before the M dmg
so lava didnt really future proof it
The only way I get green damage numbers (below 10 mil) is when I use my ES and his Radiant Chainbolt, and it's like the last chain damage
Who needs green when you can have pink-purple'ish >?
https://i.imgur.com/ZwZJxsk.png
Nah, they were just implemented before damage numbers showed up as big M damage numbers, we had over 10m damage at that point already
but green is supposed to be better than purple
there were times where the numbers were displayed as is, like all digits, so thats when green dmg was implemented and affected all dmg
I honestly never even realized the color of my dmg much until now xD
but as shown in pet arena, big numbers lag you out
Green was supposed to be the thing after purple I'm pretty sure, since you'll deal higher crit damage with the Megacrit talent
Eh, think that's due to the amount of instances from pet attacks and has nothing to do with a larger number
has anyone tried grinding out the w3 statues?
Yes, see pins
I'm using ES on Penguins atm. It just seems like its going to take literal ages to pull off
Candy 1h, check how many you get. And active ES should be like.. 8-12ish per hour of that depending on your stats i guess
Why break 170 portal?
mega crit was implemented before the purple M dmg modifiers
so green was always before purple i guess
fair
5 box statues w/ 1 hr candy
so 40 to 60 an hour? That seems off. I hit 22 after about 10 minutes
still way to slow in my opinion but idk. Don't think there's a faster way to do it sadly
So all we need now are green M dmg numbers, and I'll be happy 
If you are only getting 5 boxes in a single hour, then your stats must be pretty terrible for afk gain o.o

ah i pulled off all the afk gain rates to put on drop rate
i get 15 statues per hr candy...with dk
Can I get a couple people to help me with the 1 star, game sucks! Quest
Why DK?
wanted to test it^^
Also keep in mind, typically vman > archer > others
and i still need the construction
Huh, pretty sure candy doesnt work on construction ๐ค
might just put dk while going to sleep
says 226k penguin kills p/hr
Total Kills mean nothing, MK does nothing for drops
then were you referring to the afk gains rate in the afk info area? That's at 103% since I'm gonna have it active farm over night
If then it's about base kills, which can be influenced by stuff like mob respawn, afk gain, or on certain maps speed potions etc
Ah okay, I didn't think the afk gains cards affected active play
huh, they dont
AFK Info has nothing to do with active grinding
looks like im Getting 5-6 trap statues per wormhole + whatever comes off the reg mobs. Each hole is 2 min so that should be ~150-200 an hour
okay, I was confused by what you meant by base kills
either way I can see grinding out the w3 statues is gonna be a few days each ๐ญ
for your afk test, when you then mentioned your peng kills per hour
What's w5 like?
RNG
Besides locking like 9 of 10 of your characters as soon as you hit it for like 1+ week, and playing the RNG game on both skills. its nice xD
If I am pushing w4 to w5 and basically am just waiting for KC should i just candy to w5? bored of waiting
You can check the 2nd pin, and see how terrible divinity is, yet also how good it is xD
Wasn't that w4 and lab? >.<
Am i supposed to have 10 chars rn? wtf
div is w5 lab
Do note that w4 troll boss is a slight DPS check, would need minimum 1m damage for most classes, and even that will still be pain
and lab is w5 lab with the right god
ooh i've heard that. i should go wath vids on him
Kinda, w5 lab with gods that you link to your classes but first they need to be painfully unlocked through both rng and tons of afk.
But their benefits once unlocked, are great ๐
And if you don't like only having 1 god effect and want all, at all times, and basically skip divinity, you can unlock Doot Companion in w1 for like around 400 bucks guaranteed or hope RNG gives it to you sooner.
I thought w5 boss was troll not kattle?
oh, im on drugs- yes that
I should google the right shit
I got scared when the archer was hitting 200m per shot
What w5 recipies do I start with
The weapon for whichever class youโre active afk on
Oh nvm I found it on the wiki
I meant which ones do I get by default btw
Not which ones to go for first
I see, itโs not by default tho, they drop on different w5 maps.
Just meant recipies in general
I wanted to make the tools for higher prints
Don't rlly care abt damage rn
Ok so rn I have Lustre pickaxe, chogg nogg, kof, mount eaterest, skill speed talent maxed, and chopping speed cards doubled but i only have 42 speed. Will dreadlo pick boost me to 62?
Axe not pick lol
using a second food or raising statues a bit would
Oh yeah I have Logs too
Oh I forgot abt statues
How much would dreadlo pick raise me?
Especially with the onyx, they alone will make you cap chopping speed with just 1 food
Hm ok
Also vmanโs statue talent important as well
most of the speed comes from statue (food effect) than from the tool itself
If I have around 10 Dr with dk no chocolate chip and 113 crystal chance how long do u think it would take to farm 20k power and feast stattues
Maybe like a week or so id say
i dont understand, i have 10-20 mobs over 100m kills and super chow for the berserker keeps showing me i have 0
Ik it's a stupid question lol
Hm dunno if that would be worth
There is a known bug of if you have multiple bb in family, it only counts for the latest made bb
Make him a DK?
when elite swap comes around again
i have elite swap tokens
I got one from the event
Well cooking slut doesnt need investment to become one
Oh didn't know u could get then free
Its not like cook level contributes to cooking
WHAT if i made my main BB a dk, then back to a BB
I used to have 2 BB but realistically only cooked on one, switching to a second DK boosted my construction quit a bit.
my other BB is my first char, hes my precious
It counts super chow for the remaining other bb, then it reverts the count to the first โjust swapped back to bbโ guy
Just make the cook bb a DK, and let your main do the major cooking with the chow he has.
You are reaching a point where โmain characterโ isnt a thing
id get like half as many ladels then eh
oh i know i dont have a main char lol,
any character over 480 is my main lol
thats how i see it lol
the rest are just sluts
one bb is enough ladles to get meals to lv60 honestly
Pimp vibes
i guess i just never left my other bb in cooking but yeah thats fair
my cooking is pretty far behind im just now into QQQ
ok good advice, thanks
Does IE/IT have accuracy stat listed per char anywhere?
IT should have it on character stats
๐ฎโ๐จ Gentleman and a scholar
here on toolbox
https://i.imgur.com/t7AN2qS.png
I must be blind since ive never seen the details in IE.
any sugestions on how to get more crit
I don't think IE has that
I don't think IE has it either. the stats page is more generalized stuff
got star talent overaccurate crit from vip books?
yeah lvl 100 something like that
Yeh, pretty early on i used toolbox for stats, so much more detail, and crystal chance isn't only rounded
Onyx statue? ๐
or getting more accuracy from stuff like meals would/should be easy
i only have meals up until the one that gives worship points
how does the critter talent of vman work? can it apply on bm trap placement?
farming statues will easily get it over 200% on everyone
the buff is account wide, just looks at vmanโs trap+worship levels to determine the %
How the f do some of my chars have massively better respawn time? I think my shammy is on skill preset and is like 178% ?
oh nice tyty
its just passive when u place stuff. Be sure to have it active when placing traps.
Also, always place XP traps on vman and check for best xp rate per charge in worship to boost that better.
Depends where you looking at but the world you are in may affect due to merit effect and possibly shrine
how tov kill krukn with vman i have 10 bil dmg
shammy is in the lab lol
what should i do
10b is low, will take you over an hour two or something
But here is a vid and strategy type thing:
#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
You can essentially do it with little damage, the only part is it becomes time consuming. E.g. my case 88b was 12min.
Like presets doesnt affect ones respawn as much
any good ?
So its more of what world you are in that applies shrine effect and such
But can still be better than currently owned stuff
The stat type isnt bad for a endgame arti finder, but the numbers are too small to be viable for endgame
Its very doable if you spend some time on grind time to get around 50x class exp
i wish i could auto delete all round and squre obols for points
@opaque sun We can sample more than 1050m right?
Never hurts to have extra particles ๐
Same, there's a suggestion here, be sure to
it
#player-suggestions message
or also here/better: #player-suggestions message
But there is a way to have more than 1050m temporarily in storage if you print more than 1050m+ at once when the storage doesnt have the said item
Wonder what sampling 2.147b does on mobile
Havn't phones been 64 bit for a while now?
sayus i have no access to it
some old android phones are still on 32 bit i suppose
Not in idleon
then you havnt done #๐read-me to unlock channels
hahaha, ive only been in this discord for like forever, but yeah thats probably true
uhm...is there any bubbles that boost huge dmg for vman? i'm trying to do this but my vman barely tickle the boss...
my vman cant do it either, its horrible
W5 bubbles, and/or slapstick, (green bubble)
Atom movespeed damage bubble in green, I've read.
vman hits like a truck, just overall dps is trash lol
this?
lol yes
Yeah you know slapstick
i def dont understand what pincy pic means lol, kids these days
Levelling skills and 1B death note is what I focussed on
Is Kitsune Roxie only useful when checked often?
Nawh, also if you need chem. Try and get chemical mutation asap
my vman now only 1B+ dmg
Sounds like you don't skill enough on vman
Looks like you focused the base damage bubbles a bit too much
yep
@elfin cape even after googling it, im still confused lol
Exactly, a clear case of skill issue
1k base wisdom damage bubble, bubble 3 is less than 200 x_x
It means small
As in, his bubble is low level
Make sure u use xp traps on vman, and max your xp per charge on worship
Classic case of doing something cause endgame said it is good
i got it, thanks love you
My skills ๐
https://i.imgur.com/rkgtFO5.png
Base damage aint gonna be great when the rest of your damage bonuses are 
my ES got everything
Yeh that's terrible
Can't get everything to show up on mobile, but this is the basic gist of my guys
Honestly not sure how you can stand to have your skills so low
Takes forever crafting bullets from chest. Not worth tbh
All mine were like 40-65ish , only had main dreadlo and the rest around 40ish. Candied most of it few days before the update. sadly deposited all the statues along the way xD
jfc is that what you did just spam bullets?
Well dont craft from chest xD
Much better xp
wait what?
xp per hour is what hes talking about
At least use your daily guaranteed crystals for your crystal countdown, it's really quick, and gives a huge skilling level boost
You get less exp when mass-crafting from inventory
but cant go over like what, 100/s?
when doing from storage
Like much much better. And doesnt cost as much resources to push high
Idk id still prefer this: #lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
Than sitting there and waiting to do 100 a tick xD
Only limit at the time was capacity
You'd go even faster from chest lol
Crafting from chest gives more exp at 100/s then crafting from bags no matter how much you are crafting
Craft from chest for exp from inventory for gstacks
why does the 3d printer not showing purple fonts when im connected to both hariep and the lab node? or is it just a visual bug?
onyx statues are pretty awesome ngl
Visual
i see. thank you!
is there a fast way of doing pens in po and is it worth maxing
How to get it asap. Always try at 1% or 0.5?
Click harvest all and spam research
Phone and meh
1% is already to high..
Like really, spam that button any time pretty much
phone
Ok
i have like 10000 pes is phone the best
the dna stuff has diminishing returns, so like 1% may be 500+ dna, yet 0.3% would only be like 40 dna. and one is way better than the other xD
When DK makes a kill, printer effect updates via the orb. Sometime the visual stucks on yellow if you stop farming on DK at certain moments
going farming on DK should fix it
but is it just visual? i closed my game alr
just visual of game failing to switch from yellow and purple when farming DK
Next time you active on DK, look at the printer and you will see it flickers
What's the usefulness cap on the warrior's rule style bubbles? 367 is 2.7x, is it worth getting it to 3.0x?
Sometimes it keeps switching from yellow to purple repeatedly
But yeah itโs just visual afaik
You wont get it to 3x
Use #1084911530417606656 doc for alchemy bubble efficiency
even 99% efficiency which is 2.98x would be lvl 5k in those bubbles
2.99x is like 10k or something
2.9x is like a good point to maybe stop
Active ES?
Donโt deposit your construction statues like I did 

cry in W4 statues ...
Yeah, gonna be candying those myself, currently in bubo jail for the foreseeable future
W4 are pretty easy
like 8-10k in 24h
The issue is on w3 since they are not from crystals
only mob drops, and they are crap
it would take me like 600-700 candies to candy each w3 statue
600 one hour candies?
600-700 each*
Seems like a waste to me
600-700 sounds like an account issue, wouldnt even try it past 350 per statue
yeah i only get 15.6x DR ony my ES
i need to beat nmare kruk on my vman so i can get divine scarf and trophy
Dont think im gonna be using vman to candy those since I dont have w3 to 1b yet and so many kills would be wasted
yeah if i candy, its gonna be on sb
Yeh i eclipsed full W3 with ES the other day, still missing statues, 1/3 done, the others are slowly getting there.
I'm sampling 50m oak logs right now. I get about 4-5k atoms a day. Should I continue atoming Mage is best (306), or work on Le Brain Tools (172). I get enough bugs to level it once or twice a day atm.
Also, excess atoms from doing Mage is Best is going towards atom upgrades, if that matters.
what level is bubble 3?
121, not high enough to atom. I lagged pretty hard on anvil.
Should be starting to get close. That will be your biggest gains. Make to be using 90% discounts on that every chance you get, and go hard into nails in anvil if you are not already
Make sure to be on a mage when leveling it, and initial atomming will be on non-mages, can unlink vial doubler if very close
M'kay. Gonna swap everyone to nails and go collect mats to max anvils (like 70% there). any non mage bubbles you would suggest for atoms?
What does golden sprinkler do? Isit just a % chance of instant growth?
chance you can use sprinkler again
you can unlock normal sprinkler that doesnt have instant reuse chance, for free
Eventually Larry, once you can afford it, getting that to 501 is a top priority
finally
sprinkler in general just adds tier 1 plant on an empty plant space
I could manage 3 lvls a day. At 182 so far.
532...
501 is only 100% you should go for 101% which is 532
And I'd start with Larry since after that, every upgrade will be +2 lvls
Its also not bad just to 115% on larry as its worth it
Larry is important
But the scale slows down... so getting it to 532 is good enough point to start working on something else
Ah. So does spamming the sprinkler actually do anything or its just graphics
The higher the better
And then going back to Larry
If there is no empty space, sprinker just wastes charge
I would say realistically to atom larry to 110%, which is like 1100, then print dementia the rest of the way to 115%
It only does to make the initial sprout. Not a forced cycle
I'm printing dementia for it atm, getting like 1-3 lvls per day depending on voidman.
I only got it to 101% and now I'm working on all the bubbles that boost chopping
will reach a point 1b ores per hour is easy to print
Do you have to get all 100M kills in one AFK session in order to get +1 Superchow from the Rift?
Nope
Like why would it be like that
Issue is your first bb dont count if you have multiple bb
Weird.. I didn't get my Superchow even though I'm pretty sure I've gotten 100M kills xD
its a known issue
I have 1 BB
Then you didnt kill enough on him or misunderstanding something
I guess it could also be possible that I miscounted my Superchows that I've gotten.
Is the max you can get 69?
Or at least the feasible max
If you didnโt do doot gmush and boop, should be 68
But that's with the gmush in doot, boop and poops in Dr. Defacus
Rift would get you to 69
Hmm
Unless you missed something else
Rift 69
Gmush in doot 70
Poop in Dr. Def 71
Boop 72
What level is your Rift?
Rift lvl doesn't matter
Since you're chowing the map itself
And now the mob in it
Oh ;- ; I missed Stiltmoles xD
It'll just be more difficult the higher rift lvl you got
How can you keep track of if you chowed it? Just have to memorise the number before attempting and pay attention?
The unusual ones are the only ones you need to remember how many you had before to know if you're done
So i just arrived to world 5, any tips?
Unfortunately for you, div jail
doot
What doot?
oh if you don't know what doot is, then you are in for a show
Check pins, start sailing and gaming right away, then off to prison
So is prison the alter thing?
What's a pin
surely they canโt be new pet companions
The pinned messages in the channel
ik ik, but holy shit already!?!? ๐
Doubt, i would assume it would just be more W2-3 mobs, then 4-5ish mobs. Probably w6 NPCs
Especially since they dont really fit into W1-5 as a new quest giver imo
W5 has now been out longer than w4 was w5 came out
2 of the recent mobs fit into the vibe for w6 from here
#๐future-content-blog message
The two water+plant guys
Then the two red ones are most likely w5 NPCs
The image file name suggests w6
I think not, w6 probably has 2, maybe 3 different themes, and we've seen 2 of them
Don't think the china-ish looking NPC's, the red ones, would fit in w5
or japanese or whatever lol
As quest npc's I think they'd do fine
They're not fiery enough idk
Only the lantern one feels Chinese
I'd say green guys are from farming and japanese guys are from a different skill
nah the dragon hat guy looks pretty asian to me
It looks like a intense red shell from mario kart
I think the 4 dudes shown all look kinda asian somehow and I think that's the theme for w6
Maybe 2 different factions, possibly
being japanese, i can tell you its nothing japanese design. (Maybe like stereotype japanese how the westerners imagine)
Yeah lava is from california so I don't expect much authenticity
but the bamboo guy looks chinese themed and the red guys look japanese themed, stereotipically
Thing is, theme of w6 looks like jungle ruin stuff more like aztec or something mayan in my opinion. These npc's looked so out of place to me.
The lantern font resembles more like korean tho
well they gotta fit in somewhere, I do think blue guys fit more in w6 theme than the red ones though
Well I'm westerner so I wouldn't know the difference
Just overall didnt expect the npc's for a map like this to look like that ๐ค
https://i.imgur.com/VvAOIJ1.png
The blue ones can't look out of place
Blue one just looks like we will have farming/pottery and brewing xD
lava needs to fix the asian language part of the game. You cant progress quests on the asian languages since the game is not recognizing numbers using asian 2byte font
I agree, blue dudes fit in, red dudes maybe if there is more to w6
Farming would be a cool skill if implemented well, not like gaming though
Bubo specialty?
and the undigested kernels
Translating a game is easy.. just add this and done:
if (english){
english;
}
else{
Spanish;
}
Would just be a time gate, but I can see farming producing stuff for more cooking meals and other skills
For alchemy too
One of the classes in w6 will be ninja that is for sure
I got about 300 gems from doing my saved up w2 miniboss spawns
Would like to see BB become a ninja and be actually good
Even better!
While at it, also add
If (bug){
fixBug;
}
Hope you did the W4 5x mush kill with it
This game isn't even coded in text
Replied to the wrong message
How do you mean?
W2 spawns for w4 miniboss?
which set room does this log appear ?
sorry missed the w2 part
Yeah but apparently not
It's some kind of framework that has you dragging blocks, not typing code lol
Don't know what it's called, I really should as I'm a programmer but idk and idc
Yes of course, at some point it is text, but I just mean it's not programmed by typing code
I can understand why some bugs just aren't fixed
Yeah true
I've only used something like this once and tbh I don't een remember what it was, I think it was a mobile app
Rest of my life I've only programmed by typing code
Yall sound like youre describing Visual Basic of some kind lmao 
Don't ask me hard questions it's 4 AM and I just got home
hehe
Yeah but only when you've been trying to do work the whole day and it's 3AM and you finally get the idea you were missing the whole time
true
What affects statue drops ? I have over 100 percent efficiency.
Depends, what/where
What u said earlier
The red ores
I had vman was getting 600 ish
I'm on my ranger but I'm only getting like 200 or less
You also compared skilling speed on both?
I accidently ducken inserted the statues I collected for kachow not dropped in front
Trying to get another 100k statues on 2 side characters
Should I go collect bugs on him ?
Why I ask what affects the drop rate of statues other than drop rate
why bugs, unless you need fishing statues
using mining food boosts the statue rate a lot
And efficiency cuz its over 100 I'm getting multi
Just any statue that going to drop a lot I need 100k
As said, the skilling speed. It caps at 62 for mining/wood. You should definetely try and hit that
Oh boi. I just unlocked ruby cards. There is a lot of cards I need to collect
and the rest is matter of afk gain
Okay I'll ss and get some testing done. Thank you. I'm just try his skill anything that drops the 100k
What are some cards to bum rush to ruby? Crystal and DR cards?
Pretty much and for cardifier you want to do hard time gated/slow af stuff
I have to check back on boops how many cards I get on them per day
Does Skill Efficiency cards etc do anything for Gaming or Sailing?
69 pens xD
neither have efficiency, so no
should i try my luck or wait till i increased my chance?
Roll it!
if you have atom as check point, you dont need encouragement until like lv20
what are the big sources for gaming? iam only at green millions
Even without atom, you dont need encouragement till like lv12
alright
let see
i got the atom tho
still lucky
even tho no upgrade
Yo
Has anyone green stacked a bunch of rare quest items like ketchup stones and penguin contracts
anyone have an idea as to why food is so much more effective on vman than the others?
Statue buffs?
everyone should be at the same level
Oof
its not a small difference either
does all w5 armor give DR?
ty
are those 3 pcs quite easy to get?
Trophy, not as easy, but kattle gear is very easy once you have the pre-gear
Only hard one is Troll due to timegated salts
iam just in the process of making all 6 chars to wurms to get the tasks
Troll -> Magma -> Kattle
my salts are fine i think?
Thats 1.5 sets of troll* i think
actually, 2+
Don't you have troll set unlocked? you could just check Quick Ref Anvil.
4k, 2.8, 1.6 and 750 for the 4 pieces
you cant candy w5..
not till w6
Also, going full kattle isn't always the best either btw
cant say โim fine with saltsโ until you finish making all tools and bags for the family
id only craft 1 set for now thats why i said its fine
at least one set of dreadlo to move around short term
Is there any point putting top traps on more than the Archers for more agi
Other than to flex
For the rift skull spreading half the time which characters is best?
What is ideal unlocking island path
lava skull is usually done on auto with SB, ES and/or bubo
Just dont use DK for lava skulls
like keep people on altar and unlock with offerings?
yes
if you mean divinity pts multipliers, check sailing and gaming
awww i see just get other things up to get it up
Or check idleon insight and search divinity
thank you
how can you see the % of getting crystal mobs?
oh, i see, i normally look and then, but i thought you could ingame
uh, not bad Crystal Spawn Chance
1 in 74 in the DK
IE
there might be a problem if a new class in the future's abbreviations is IE
man, grinding box statues takes forver huh?
instantly if you dont mind using candies
is that rate that much better?
well its nothing you can directly compare active time for afk time speeded by candy
But using like say 200-300 candies to save 3 irl days is worth it imo
fair
damn this is gonna take me alot more than a few hundred candies
my afk rate is abysmal
Then dont do it
Most likely at that point ESโs farming speed gonna take a long time as well
i guess i expected things to go a lot faster sitting at 15x DR but ig not
should be able to get like 300-400% afk gain at that progress, unless youโve been kind of sleeping on those sources of afk %
What do you guys do to get over a thousand lvls for the bubbles?
click it a bunch
Loosing Liquid super fast and it takes forever to get more
Just the water droplets gives me 9/hr

Ah I see. Well 30% faster aint much, but something I guess
Its 30% slower
But more capacity
Well 30% shouldnt matter that much for your bubo
I have like 90 on my highest
Bubo and atoming at some point
play bubo active for a few weeks. atom when possible, and hit the hourly tap on whichever bubble youre focusing on
High CC on bubo
Tent 200+ makes your cc skyrocket
the 30% slower can be pretty much off-set by decanting into regen a bit
usually finding fury artifact gets people to surpass 200
Oh ok I see
https://i.gyazo.com/2b4e6597114902409e314b99e4471683.png
can't wait to be done unlocking slots
edging even
hp gives a lottt
Do I have to do the new statue quests on each char?
i kinda faded rn but i cant remember which one i did and it wasnt hard, but i got 40
to get the most kachow statues which is probably the hardest to upgrade in general aside forom onyx, yes you SHOULD. but you can leave it for late game tbh
No if u only looking for onyx benefit, but you want to do it at least on 2 char to get kachow onyx
is it good idea to spam 0.02% chance on efury?
Why 2?
my bad 40, but i cant tell whats the max
How long should it take for W2 and W3 dungeon achievements?
w2 is kinda tricky, w3 i havent beat the final boss
keep in mind i have everything maxd in dungeons
is the crystal custard companion additive or multiplicative
I cant use this to change to ES?
whats the ability
whats the best equipments for afking death note rn on SB
nope because youre elite
wym
100% to dr and exp from mobs
add
i need better equipment for my sb so i start farming for eclipse skull
Whats better for Statue farm dk on beans or es on carrots
DK
dk
theres a pin with the best statue farms
In gen or here
For W2/3/4 switch to world kill rings if you have them
here
Alr
aight thanks that helps laot
11b vman enough for nk?
what that scarf
No, I'd say at least 50B
Need to kill NKruk on all 10 for the recipe
Does the drop rate prayer work on crystals?
how fast would the 50b kill it
aight nvm cant do that rn iam too lazy to fix my last 2 chars
Perfecto
Takes a bit, gotta be careful to not let him heal
so hypothetically my 11b is doable ๐ฟ
wtf
Can't you meme harder your build and squeeze 40B more? 
you cant imagine how hard i tried to squeeze in the first 11b and now im kindof at a loss for how tf i can increase it further with trapping exp being as it is
Trapping is your most gated maestro level? Or am I inserting myself halfway into a convo I know nothing about
Do crystal countdowns for more skill levels, get more LUK
^
pretty much
Also, if you don't have eld crystal steak, sell your soul for it
have it
Care to share your IE? I can take a poke.
Well, in short, improve alch, stamps and skill levels
Book talents if you haven't, double damage cards, damage star signs
You weren't using fibers when you got to 11B, right...?
If you wanna spend an hour you can do Nkruk at 15B
Depends on how bad you want the scarf
oh i was
There's literally no reason to ever use fibers, unless you're doing rift and don't have enough damage for MK
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Also, don't use both +eff -xp and +exp -eff prayers at the same time 
I'm just going to focus on your Maestro and leave the rest alone for now.
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You're rocking both Balance of Proficiency and Skilled Dimwit. I would take off skilled dimwit - You're after levels from your maestro.
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Anytime you go skilling on your maestro, go do a bit of crystal countdown first. 75% reduction in EXP required is massive. You have 2% for woodcutting and that's all, looks more accidental than anything.
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Make sure you're talent booking your damage talents
i upgraded sodium to lvl 3 and my snail lvl went down to 14???
i feel like u guys might be onto something
Sounds like a skill issue?
Clearly
but im getting most exp with both prayers active
You can upgrade a LOT of your stamps. I would go ahead and do that.
You have 9 recipes that take >10 ladles to level up. May as well hammer those out.
That's ... wild. You must be so close to an efficiency threshold to manage that.
we talkin just base luk and +dmg stamps?
You are leveling multitool every day, right?
going places
If you get more exp with both prayers, means that you don't have enough efficiency to get 100% on resources with balance of proficiency
Only skill that having more tiers of prowess gives more exp is fishing
Leaving your alchemy alone cause you know about that.
Shiny critters looks like they could use some lovin'. Whale feller has refinery speed up, they pretty much live in my fenceyard. I'd expand your shinies.
You have some real low hanging fruit for your slab, spend some time tidying that up.
why does my DK drop an insane amount of Crystallin stamps, but my BB doesn't?
Also, I can't seem to take the Crystallin of the drop table from w5 crystal mobs
finish the quest
It's a quest, once you turn in that stamp it goes away
Ahhhhh
I mostly mean in general for stamps, but yeah those specifically too. Levelling up skilling stamps helps you get more stats and it's all really a cycle.
How big is finishing PO
I've been lazy about completing quests on my later chars
Like is 333 stat huge or meh for the time
any big damage sources iam missing?https://zockie.idleonefficiency.com
i only have 20b damage on my bubo
Free stats and skill eff, totally worth
Also you'll get stuff from completing the deliveries, like keys and golden jam
Did u max it

But amraok keys are the worst
Jis nightmare card useless
Not what you asked but this will always get you roasted.
i dont mind too lazy to do em
vman still best to do that?
DK
I usually do DK
myriad box is nice to max, but not like a maxed guy is that noticeable
No reason not to get them, myriad is enough of reward
Mob the zone for a few minutes first then pop the mini boss
also you must be allergic to gems and candies if neglecting miniboss
@opaque sun do you know of any bugs with snail and sodium lvls?
sodium and snail bug? Havent heard any in the community
yea i got 15 snail yesterday upgraded sodium to lvl 3 today
@raven fog I'll actually test the damage difference on my SB that I forgot to level
Graet update me
i have enough pens to max myriad few times over. Issue is using the po box 1 that requires some vertical mouse movement to click
I am trying phone ig
@old portal do the royal wurm quest in w4 please
and DONT kill the giant mutants before you do
โFinish all W4 questโ is probably going to be the biggest hinderance on mine for that trophy as i kind of expended with breeding upgrades that i can afford
since you must kill 5 for the second quest
why?? whats the quest
Pretty noticeable increase
dang
Am already bored of pens
Respectable but not for my mental health
like i said...second quest of royal wurm needs you to kill 5 mutated mushs....and arena dont count
Yeah, not worth your mental health
RIP theyre all dead
dont feel obligated but anyone have any tips in general? most people know better than i do so i might as well ask https://ragekilling.idleonefficiency.com/
oh sh.t
I am
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You have literal thousands of easy stamps levels
Why do your bubbles have .5 levels? ๐ค
not sure on that one
lmao what
Damn
invest in your anvil poins for production
Buy your anvil points, level your bubbles, for the love of god, level your stamps, farm slab, cook your meals, a bunch of your meals will take a few seconds
And the easy stuff, do your W3 miniboss, use your worship charge and collect your traps
superchowing 46 honestly wasnt that bad
ah the lower meals i forgot they were real once i started capping everything at 40
Now do Dootmush and boops 
You can sort by least time to cook next on IE and IT
Best way to go, as you get the most out of your vman's talent
how many levels does nblb gives now?
peoples min is getting high now mine still sucks lol
Anyone knows
What is the new
Bribes set
Because i have beed only upgrading tradh to get more tradh
Idk if i should rush stamps
I'm saving for the bribe, one sec.
You caught up to me so fast
I was 25M ahead 
archer talent
Archer talent
Like 1-4 garbage from random boss
You know as much about te new talents as I do now lol
Said to scale with party bonus
talents = bribe
I have 22 skulls, does the damage multiplier stop at 100%?
So รถuke 1-4 per day extra
if there even a point to leveling the non stat/damage stamps like pointed out the base health one, it didnt even make a difference leveling it
like if you can bother do to those events everyday
And ine is fishing
Go wiki and it will tell you most of the questions
I donโt thats the issue
You at least want your total stamp level to get to 10k
Sre the obals good
Is there another way to get Gold Nugget chance? I have the Dirty Shovel at lv 150, but I only have 24k as my highest Nugget
there is no way to raise the chance of nuggets
Big nugget luck is bad worded โbase nugget valueโ
Raises range of possible nuggets, but doesnt affect what you roll (1x - 1500x)
But technically if u have higher cap the chance of rolling it is more ?
when you roll a big multiplier, having high base makes the result better
But the first part of rolling between 1x to 1500x doesnt change
It's a long time since I got 24k, I guess my next big nugget will be awesome
So u get from 1tp1500x the base which increases by upgrading the shovel
Using shovel more diligently is like the only thing that affects chance in a way
So very important to upgrade so u donโt miss on a rolรถ
from when the gaming came out i was hitten 13.453x now i has being stuck on that sins then.. and now my range is 278-443K so
In not saying the upgrade is useless. Just saying there isnt much to improve the chance
Yah
Until you roll a good one, its sad that the upgrade doesnt take any effect
out of 7 "rolls" my biggest one was 741 ><
like the shovel upgrades i made during this 4 month hasnt made any contribution to me until it rolls a good one
may i ask why?
The fractal island โ25% more nuggetโ is underwhelming that it only adds more nugget piece when shoveling. As in previously if you shoveled 4 nuggets, its now 5
100% chance to get a gilded stamp everyday
ah
is it not cap to 95 as a max?
as i read it on the stamp mastery.. is can get to a max of 95% chance of getting one
Because you have 9500 levels
ahh ok
hey guys, was there a quest with the 20k statues thing? should I just return them 1 at a time with 1 char or?
nvm just checking the stickies.. ๐คช
its so hard to farm this :(((
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i need to start doing these, think the gear would be a decent time investment, maybe after im done with these w2 statues ill start doing that again
also, is midas worth? or the 4x hp will be too much for wormhole
Don't use Midas on ES
k
your thoughts were along the right lines. The DR gain doesn't offset the HP gain of the portal mobs, so it results in less overall gains
what circle obols good to use for bubo? are the wis ones about it, or pop just the default and do the money% squares as something more specific
errr i guess the hyper obols probably technically best, but yeah, not using those atm
oh so just the usual drop setup
Yeah
You use bubo for alchemy and money, DR increases money gain so there's no need to make a unique build
i havent actually tried setting up bubo to capitalize on drops, bet its decent, although not quite as good as dk/es, but still
oh!
did notknow dr affected money ,lol
What dr needed to get pops?
so the cash obols just useless then ig
Asap. Dice first if you have choco chip
I have a crystal farm with my dk and choc chip, killing crabs to get dice aswell as nuggets atm
Have tried pops for a day and they never drop :^
chow was 1m kills with BB especcially, right
eh, i definetly want chizoar gear over class gear, rigth?
thats nice
What's w5
it stands for a tier 5 Wumbo
oh you know first I wumbo, then you wumbo. then he, she me wumbo
after that you'll be tier 5
Are you using DK for PoP obols?
Because ES is better for them
Do they drop from the giga frogs?
ye
is it worth chowing with this score?
just to get to 1milli absolutely
a guide says cooking gets better when u chow w1 w2
its insane the difference some chow stacks can make
thats best what i can do
do you have the multikill prayer
this?
this boiiii any worth it?
if you have space
yyes
i do but is it worth him?
according to that tower defense guide im not rdy for wave 50
when sampling in vman speedrun, i want snake right?
i just want to get 3 bosses and then sample the mats right?
what mobs do people recommend that i sample on vman?
Your next few mob vials
im guessing once you have the pet that turns on all big bubbles, theres no way to turn that off without deleting that pet, huh
