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[dapper prism]

Meh, alchemy a bit time gated

[signal osprey]

Kinda but not nearly as much as the W5 rushes would make you think

[vagrant mountain]

literally just use all of your liquid every day

and you will be set 😆

i didnt even cranium cook until i hit w5

[prisma drift]

Hey trickz do you know what I would wanna use to active for bullseye statues?

I wasn’t sure if DK still better than es because crystals don’t drop

[dapper prism]

It would probably be between ES or vman for candy

[wind umbra]

Im not trickz, but id say es at sticks so u can farm wooden circles at the same time

[dapper prism]

Nullo was about 10-15% more statues/h than sticks, but yeh, loss off wood circles if u need

[prisma drift]

I don’t wanna use candy

Trying to save to do more eclipses

[dapper prism]

Havn't gotten to the ES vs vman, just tested some W3 stuff on vman like card set vs keychains, now need to compare it with vman

But have to head out for a bit, so more testin tonight 🤷

If not candy then pretty surely ES > Vman

[prisma drift]

Gotcha so es at shrooms

[shrewd gate]

highest orb count ive seen at oranges so far

[dapper prism]

Shrooms is a lot less statues

[prisma gate]

im dropping 20k beholder statues at the statue man but its not turning onyx

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/L2GgW9A.png

[prisma gate]

does it have to be upgraded in order?

[dapper prism]

AFK, bbl

[dapper prism]

You didnt drop chisel infront of him yet i assume?

see ya

[prisma gate]

wait what chisel

[wind umbra]

did u drop onyx scupting tool first

[prisma gate]

...

o im dumb i see it in my inventory now

[haughty cove]

how much cc is good for bubu?

[prisma gate]

thabk you guys

[haughty cove]

i mean what the highest cc time possible for bubu?

500k sec?

[wind umbra]

400kish

[signal osprey]

Highest is around 450k

[haughty cove]

is 100k is good?

106k to be clear

[vagrant mountain]

better than nothing

[haughty cove]

fair enough

cuz i whant to let my bubu active farm the rift for free cc over night

i just wanted to know if its worth doing that our not

[vagrant mountain]

lol

[haughty cove]

to be more clear i have no auto loot

[vagrant mountain]

damn

tough

[sacred breach]

You can filter the drops if you want

Then go to an actual good map

[haughty cove]

so the rift active farming my bubu for cc is best option

[haughty cove]

can't filter the coins tho

[sacred breach]

Ah I see

[haughty cove]

yup

the rift isn't bad too

my bubu have like almost 300mil dmg but still i geg around 100k+ secns

[signal osprey]

I mean yeah not having autoloot sucks but doing CC is important

So if rift is the only option then its probably worth doing

[haughty cove]

ty for info then

time for my first active farming

lets go

and gn to every one

[snow hamlet]

not sure what I'm doing wrong but onyx statues aren't unlocking

[vagrant mountain]

drop the statues not deposit

[snow hamlet]

That's what I'm doing

[vagrant mountain]

is your statue man blacked

[little pagoda]

Did you drop the onyx tools on him first

Slab it first though

[snow hamlet]

Nope!

Thanks

[little pagoda]

Btw pow statues be careful not to depoist them before you onyx everything

[abstract spear]

I just unlocked w5 days ago and now trying to push.

I saved up my candies for this, I can't use it.

[opaque sun]

Drop the onyx chisel you got from quest

[snow hamlet]

I was one of the players pushing for green stack statues before I realized it's not possible

[vagrant mountain]

it's not possible as in they dont turn green?

[little pagoda]

Probably as in it would take years

[snow hamlet]

They cap

[little pagoda]

Oh they do?

[vagrant mountain]

i can get like 250k a day on 16.5x

[snow hamlet]

I believe so, it's on reddit

[fathom lagoon]

Now you got hella candies atleast

[little pagoda]

What's the cap?

[opaque sun]

green stack statues are possible, but that locks out using the deposit all button

[vagrant mountain]

its also just not worth green stacking lol

unless your statue is like 1k

[snow hamlet]

I just remember seeing that they capped at like 9999999 or something

may have changed, may be misremembering

I don't think it's possible though

[signal osprey]

That was in inventory

They have no cap in storage

[zealous niche]

Latest world has a candy ban, no candies in w5 until w6 is released

[vagrant mountain]

3.5% dmg vs 100+ mining power tho

[signal osprey]

Yeah green stacking statues is bad for sure

But it is possible at least

[snow hamlet]

or until you unlock the corresponding pet :)

[vagrant mountain]

what pet

[jagged gate]

is there a list somewhere of all sources of multikill per tier

[vagrant mountain]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=multikill per tier

[barren otter]

@signal osprey i went up 1.5k player xp bonus cog clickering last night

[vagrant mountain]

wtf

[barren otter]

and from 1.4b xp/hr on main DK

to 2b xp/hr

[vagrant mountain]

how long were you clicking for

[barren otter]

it was kinda miserable clicking it...

like 4 hrs

lmfao

[snow hamlet]

ultracrit when

[vagrant mountain]

[jagged gate]

thx but its incomplete

its missing alchemy bubbles and im sure a lot of other stuff

[vagrant mountain]

yeah you might have better luck searching for multikill instead

because descriptions are not consistent

like lava was definitely inebriated when he wrote this

[livid raft]

I havent even gotten the 17 unique statues yet lol

[signal osprey]

Definitely worth it though. Its multiplicative with other sources so getting nearly a 50% exp increase will stay relevant forever

[sick sentinel]

Idk if this is missing anything

[barren otter]

yea 7k player xp was a bit rough to get to

do another round when my DKs get higher lvl

[signal osprey]

I've been saying that same thing for 250 con levels

I'll definitely do more at 300

[barren otter]

when DK hits 500 cons

nice little 4 hour click sess get to 9k

[signal osprey]

Thats probably about how high mine is

[livid raft]

what world statues am I missing.. I swear this is just W1/5 and maybe some from 4? lol

[signal osprey]

Youre missing statues from 1 2 and 3

[livid raft]

what 😮 I swore I afked for 30mins active there... that should have gotten them easy oh well back to W1 I go!

[vagrant mountain]

im missing a couple

[signal osprey]

That cant be all you got if you were active. Chopping statues drop in equal amounts as mining

[livid raft]

The chopping/ mining ones came from my guys skilling. Im doing W1 again right now on bored beans with bubo

[vagrant mountain]

should use DK

[livid raft]

I tried DK it felt slower.

[vagrant mountain]

you probably dont have very good crystal chance and/or your DK doesnt have talent levels

[signal osprey]

That means you forgot something. Or maybe a lot of somethings

[obsidian nacelle]

Hate that I put my guys in rift for 5 mil afk the DAY before this patch came out 😭

My DK is in there

[signal osprey]

Even a mediocre DK should farm a few times more statues per hour than bubo

[vagrant mountain]

not if your orb is 150

[signal osprey]

Forgetting to book any of your talents counts as forgetting something

[vagrant mountain]

heh

[livid raft]

yea I havent booked much on my DK thats probably why

[fathom lagoon]

Are onyx statues worth pushing for?

[vagrant mountain]

if you have decent crystal chance and DR yea

a few of them you can just candy from skilling

[fathom lagoon]

Imma just buy 4 everyday from the shop, will only take 5000 days

[vagrant mountain]

good plan

at max bonus it is 2x effect and 7 pts per statue so

kinda good

[fathom lagoon]

Damn that is pretty good

[livid raft]

What should I book on DK for statue farming?

[vagrant mountain]

orb and knight

[signal osprey]

Orb is most important followed by shockwave slash

[last quiver]

Does the all personal tab not work in obols?
it says try dragging and drag but nothing moves

[vocal ibex]

Question as well about sailing

Posted a video my ships went twice all my ships I have all unlocked so it didn't stack the chests I don't have it filtered for any chest I have the lowest one. I also don't have the skill that uses chest to upgrade.

It was working fine couple days ago where it was stacking all the chests

[vagrant mountain]

you can drag obols around, you just cant take them out

[granite grove]

you dont have it leveled on other SB, right?

[vocal ibex]

Mmm I'm go check I don't think so

-_-

Yeah he does

Thanks 🤣

[last quiver]

@vagrant mountain even dragging around doesn't work for me

(between characters)

[vocal ibex]

Post a video

Maybe dragging it wrong

Takes like 20 seconds to post it too 🙂

[granite grove]

drag should work, like it can swap obols or move to blank obols

[vocal ibex]

Shoot let me post one Gove me a sec

[gritty sierra]

20k power statues... where farm

[livid raft]

Okay trying out DK.. bar setup?

[vocal ibex]

Not sure if you talking about these obols but you touch obol in your inventory onto the one you want to switch out the character already have one equipped

[livid raft]

This is what I have rn

[vagrant mountain]

well.. the feature does work although i've had it bug out before and not let me drag anything but all I did was reopen it

[last quiver]

Doesn't let me move to an empty slot or between characters but does let me swap from storage to full slot

TY for the recording sprinkler

[livid raft]

Hmm maybe its my crystal spawn chance on DK.. I can only get it to 1 in 42 😒

[vagrant mountain]

choco chip?

[livid raft]

yea I have it on

[vagrant mountain]

what is your DR?

[glacial venture]

star talent?

[livid raft]

10.82DR

[vagrant mountain]

not great but you should still get a decent amount

[livid raft]

yea I can get closer to 12 on my bubo.. not sure why lol

[glacial venture]

crystal4days lvl?

[vagrant mountain]

prayer?

obols?

cards?

[livid raft]

ah cards I have mostly dmg cards on.. let me swap those in

[vagrant mountain]

what level did you get your orb to?

267 is ideal if you have mana box

[livid raft]

Its at 209/215 atm out of pts to put. My max book lvl currently is 215 not sure what I am missing to keep pushing that up either

[vagrant mountain]

probably atom collider for 225

[north juniper]

Sailing artifact

[vagrant mountain]

oh yeah max is 245 idk why i thought it was 225

[livid raft]

I think I have collider I have at least 1 pt into everything on that

[vagrant mountain]

you are prob missing eldritch + 5 from achievement

[livid raft]

Yea thats prob it I dont have eldritch one for that in sailing yet

Did the card swaps and now I'm at 12.29

[vagrant mountain]

you can probably get around 260 with arctis + es family + symbols

[north juniper]

Beans

[livid raft]

symbols?

[gritty sierra]

Aye... I was just hoping for a different answer lol

[zealous niche]

Last skill in tab 4

[gritty sierra]

I know what i must do... but I don't have the patience to do it

[livid raft]

Oh gotcha

[vagrant mountain]

slug makes it easy

[livid raft]

Guess I need to lvl my DK more. I havent gotten slug yet 😦

[north juniper]

Just set it and forget it for the night

[zealous niche]

Come back when it’s easier perhaps?

[livid raft]

only lvl 376 on dk

[vagrant mountain]

spend a night at wurms you'll be 450 ez

[livid raft]

yea my bubo is creeping up on 500 lol

[north juniper]

Also active your bubo and get that grind time up

Makes life easier

[vagrant mountain]

500 bubo 376 dk

[livid raft]

ye I stopped GT at a even 1K its pretty 😒 lol

[north juniper]

I say that but most people are waaaay ahead on that bubble lol

[vagrant mountain]

i have a baby grind time

[north juniper]

Yeah mine is around 2500 but I switched to DK for farming statues

[vagrant mountain]

ive literally been farming statues for 2 weeks before this update

was about to be finished but now im farming another week of statues

[lost topaz]

So wait... how are people doing their 100k statue quest on non-DK's?

The power ones I was able to just farm on DK and give to family, but that doesn't seem to be working for the 100k turn in?

[vagrant mountain]

you can candy a lot of statues

on your BB and vman just candy dreadlo

[livid raft]

Snelbies are W2 statue farm with DK right?

[vagrant mountain]

and w1 logs on your wizards

[lost topaz]

Brilliant. Appreciate you ❤️

[north juniper]

That’s what I do but some swear by sandy pots

[vagrant mountain]

on your archers probably just choose logs or ores lol

you can get fishing statues from w2 bugs but slow

[lost topaz]

I just like to double up on shards for stamp, but I did snelbies for the onyx grind

Much more incentive for statues specifically now so I probably wont go back to pots unless im targetting the stamp specifically

[north juniper]

Yeah I tried it earlier. Wasn’t the worst.

[vagrant mountain]

mason jar stamp is pretty strong

gonna need thousands later

even with atom

[lost topaz]

Yea thats why I did pots over snelbies up until now. But now I will probably just target both seperately and do snelbies more often unless im directly pushing stamp

[vagrant mountain]

i would argue that snelbies isnt even much more statues

[signal osprey]

That would be a good argument because its not

Its quite a bit less statues than both tysons and sand pots

[north juniper]

I finally threw the last Marty pouch on my DK. So now he doesn’t stall with mats during the farm.

500k carry capacity from 49k is no joke

[signal osprey]

This was the average expected statue outcome from 1 hour at a few different W2 mobs. Don't believe the snelbie propaganda

[last quiver]

idk you need the stupid glass shards anyway sooo..

[signal osprey]

Yup

[vagrant mountain]

damn didnt realize sandy pots were actually the best heh

[signal osprey]

For pure statue gains tysons is a little bit better than sand pots but pots are still very close while also having glass shards

[livid raft]

Well I'm stuck at bored beans for awhile anyways gotta do the 20K power lol

[last quiver]

@livid raft yeah i'm at 12k power after a full day on them

[opaque sun]

For classes that sucks at active statue farming, they can always candy at copper node or something for 100k

[signal osprey]

But either way between pots and tysons just be sure to not do snelbies

[livid raft]

I'm at 3.2K power but Im not sure where they came from honestly lol

[opaque sun]

pots are actually slightly better than snelbies even if ignoring glass value and just looking at statues

[livid raft]

Welp gonna go watch some TV and let the game do its thing lol.

[vagrant mountain]

i like pots

[signal osprey]

Only for anvil statue. Tysons wins on the rest

[vagrant mountain]

especially when im on top platform and i use my boomerang and it hits literally everything

[signal osprey]

And thats because the pots also drop anvil too in addition to crystals

[opaque sun]

tyson wins for pure statue

Pots are like 480 orb, snelbies like 470 and tyson being 530

There is no reason to do snelbies

If you want statues and get 20k over quickly as possible, tysons. If you also want some glass, sand pots win for the total value that comes out of farming. Snelbies is if you only want the purple pendant for some reason

[vagrant mountain]

purple pendant is swag

[signal osprey]

Candy it

[vagrant mountain]

honestly ive had two of those pendants in my inventory for months because i keep telling myself that im gonna do desert completion

[signal osprey]

Now you have to

[glacial venture]

even then its fast to get again

[opaque sun]

Misinformation of snelbies being good is just some peeps concluding its good since its single platform. But in practicality single platform isnt the only factor to make a map good for DK

[signal osprey]

Gotta do quest completion for the efficiency talent

[vagrant mountain]

no im gonna do it later

damn i actually have to, i have mining eff shimmer island challenge that ends in 2 days

[glacial venture]

snelbies was ok when boomerang crashed game

[granite grove]

flat single platform is one factor, other is also mob density and drop value so yeah

if just going by flat map, w1 red mush would be the best map (which is not, plus respawn breaks over there)

[opaque sun]

Sand pots are actually really good dk map as:

• Its makes boomerang really effective
• the rope distance is short
• the rope is on the edge, unlike sand castles that has in the middle. Moving on the edge of platforms means a single direction swipe can kill entire platform

[glacial venture]

respawn only breaks if you dont kill yaga first

[vagrant mountain]

sand pots is also just a really small map because monsters only spawn on half of it

[opaque sun]

Sand castles would have been a great map if the rope was on one side of the platform, but since its not it always requires 2 swipes in both direction to clear a platform

[vagrant mountain]

rope is also too long

just too much travel time

[glacial venture]

with feasty and speed statue onyxed m.speed shouldnt be a prob anymore

[signal osprey]

Visual move speed is capped at 350%

[opaque sun]

350% visual moving speed should be easily capped

[junior arrow]

also glass shards are always a great bonus

[glacial venture]

ok...then 480 on dk isnt helping...

[opaque sun]

But seems if you go 1200%+, visual move speed goes wonky again

[signal osprey]

Any move speed above 350% is just for scaling bonuses like quick slap or to help you reach kill cap on large maps like the rift

So its not useless its just not as good as the first 350%

[opaque sun]

Someone reported although visually your character sprites walk in 350% move speed, an invisible ghost of you moves at 1200% to interact things

[vagrant mountain]

lol

[opaque sun]

Probably lava didnt anticipate move speed going over 1200

[signal osprey]

Dont even need 1200

I'm getting the portal bug at 1k

[vagrant mountain]

just interacting with objects/NPCs or attacks/abilities too?

[lavish grotto]

maybe if you get high enough movespeed you start teleporting

[glacial venture]

instant transmission...you are goku !!!!!!!!

[vagrant mountain]

needs to die 2 times

[opaque sun]

So its probably coded like if move speed is 350-1000, limit your ethereal interacting ghost to 350.

But havent coded the limit past 1000 (999? Maybe)

[glacial venture]

need help with that@vagrant mountain?^^

[vagrant mountain]

only if u call me kakarot

[lavish grotto]

how do people already have the monolith's birthweight and starsign

[junior arrow]

its made up

a little fun for the wiki

[vagrant mountain]

probably in the game code

[junior arrow]

nah the people running the wiki said its just something they added for a bit of fun

[vagrant mountain]

oh lol

[lament jasper]

2.77kg for a damn rock though...

[vagrant mountain]

i could totally see lava adding that info in the item code though

[lavish grotto]

I thought lava was inclined to give this information for every npc added to the game ever

[opaque sun]

Its something the wiki editing crew does

[vagrant mountain]

bless their unpaid souls

[junior arrow]

its randomise from their bot i believe

#wiki-discuss message

[lavish cloak]

So other than onyx statues, whats the reward for new quests? Im stuck on 5 mush minibosses

[glacial venture]

new star talent, trophy

[junior arrow]

2 new star talents

1 is skill efficiency and 1 is multikill

[lavish grotto]

the last one is crystal farming

[glacial venture]

but total multikill....weak sauce

[junior arrow]

its not bad, 450% is still nice, but yea overall its not the best

[glacial venture]

for 150 talentpoints its quite weak

[junior arrow]

will be great when we hit w6 fresh if you are only just hitting multikill i guess

[last quiver]

its great for weaker accounts, but, what weaker account is going to have full onyx?

[glacial venture]

even stat overload feels strong in comparison to me

[junior arrow]

yea thats true i sometimes forget full onyx is kinda a requirement haha

[vagrant mountain]

stat overload is strong lol

[junior arrow]

eh... kinda i guess, its total stats so it is a flat rate with no modifiers at all

[vagrant mountain]

300 stats is 300 stats

[glacial venture]

1200

not 300

[junior arrow]

stat overload is only 300

[glacial venture]

300 on 4 stats

aka 1200 stats

[junior arrow]

yea but your main stat is the main 1 really

[glacial venture]

tell that to the shimmering island weekly^^

[vagrant mountain]

that one is bs 😆

[junior arrow]

shimmering dont like me anyway

[vagrant mountain]

needs 60k all stats for 10 points

[junior arrow]

gives me shit ones haha

[glacial venture]

im not hitting 30k yet....

[last quiver]

I'm not hitting 3k yet

[glacial venture]

giant one is worse

[vagrant mountain]

nah

only 25 giants for 10 points

[glacial venture]

was stuck at 50 giants whole week

[junior arrow]

i got the GP one, even at max 680 GP in the week it was only i think 10-11 points

[vagrant mountain]

all stat was my first one and i got 6 pts with 30k

[vocal ibex]

Someone know what the statues we need to get for the quest ?

I have a lot in inventory shows only 3 so far

[glacial venture]

go back to map with 17 different

even if it shows less

[vocal ibex]

Ahhhh

Okay

Tyry

[glacial venture]

questbook wont refresh outside of map it seems

[vocal ibex]

I understand now approached

[last quiver]

what should I upgrade first in shimmer? total dmg?

[opaque sun]

Efficiency, and then maybe total damage

[candid ginkgo]

does anyone know how to use the fractal island??

[opaque sun]

supposedly you use candy on the fractal island, but people have been reporting lava made a booboo and coded it to count as fishing

[candid ginkgo]

yeah thats what happening with me

[native onyx]

Is the monolithism talent actually any good?

[opaque sun]

So as of now it seems you have to use irl afk hours to afk at towns

[junior arrow]

at max onyx statues and max talent points it offers 450% multikill

[opaque sun]

Issue is that people consider fractal island as 4th island, so not many have actually experienced the fractal buggyness

[junior arrow]

its a lot of points for a flat rate of multikill. not the worst but there is better

[vocal ibex]

Slime best for power statues ?

[junior arrow]

beans

[native onyx]

450% is better than nothing I guess lol, doesn't mean much if you already have like 20k+ though

[opaque sun]

And currently people are on 3rd island unless you got the giveaway

[vocal ibex]

May u shall go kill some beans

Okay *

[opaque sun]

Slime is a good map for afk, but terrible layout for active DK

[vocal ibex]

Thanks

Was rigged I didn't get any of the awards

[junior arrow]

which awards?

[opaque sun]

250% statue exp is effectively like 250% more statue drops, so its good

[west quest]

i didnt get nameplate either after 500 coolers

[vocal ibex]

The rewards for winning the free bottles

[dapper prism]

Pin has some info 🙂

[vocal ibex]

I will go look at pin

[junior arrow]

cant wait to get all 25 onyx statues, paied with a max snakeskin vial, each statue is worth 7 statues forever after that, and only gets stronger with new statues released

[dapper prism]

With new statue stuff, new meta to level tab 3 statue talent right away? xD

[opaque sun]

Big brain guy is to keep that 80k kapow they got from quest and dont deposit until w8

[junior arrow]

in fairness how many people are getting onyx statues that dont already have a lot of talent points to spare into those talents haha, but i guess new players can be told to save as many statues as possible while they rush w4

[dapper prism]

Doubt it would be worth saving the statues early on

The buffs help and its not very expensive to get the first bunch of levels throughout

[native onyx]

Oh the mutated mush spawn has to be the one in the purple mushroom map

Well...

Damn

[kind epoch]

Tried farming a bit for statues last night but wasn't getting many per hour - guess I'm better off just saving them as I go for now?

Don't have some of the better crystal mob multipliers like choco chip, and my DR is only 7ish

[junior arrow]

yea 7 days to spawn 2, do that twice then wait 4 days for the last one, so in total 18 days per character

[last quiver]

@kind epoch I have choco 1 in 35 and 9.5 dr and its slow as f

[native onyx]

It's going to be a long grind without Choco-chip

[muted bramble]

what are best map to farm statue in each world ^

[native onyx]

Bored Beans are W1

With DK

[junior arrow]

you are making me reconsider turning them in once i get all my onyx statues now haha

[native onyx]

I think Clammies W4?

[fallen flax]

Beans, Sand pots, Bloody Bones, Clams, oranges?

[junior arrow]

the pins has a spredsheet

[junior arrow]

no one reads pins, thats too much effort

[fast verge]

cant get more cooking clog
i need troll armor
is it best for dk or es to farm

[sacred fog]

is this GOD for voidwalker speedrun?

[kind epoch]

Sweet, will carry on powering up other stuff now then haha and save my statues

[native onyx]

DK for drops

[fast verge]

so multi kill doesnt matter for it right

[junior arrow]

pretty sure cooking clogs would actually be better with ES

[abstract geyser]

DK stands for DEEZ KNUTS cough

[kind epoch]

Farm up the cards for Crystal mobs and get more DR instead lol

[fast verge]

how so tho?

[muted bramble]

i only see the one that talks about beans

[fallen flax]

Any non crystal drops are usually better with ES.

[north juniper]

Pretty sure we have this conversation every time we talk about non-rare vs rare tables.

[junior arrow]

wormhole kills give massive drop chance

[native onyx]

Further down there's a spreadsheet with more

[junior arrow]

if its not on the rare table use ES

[dapper prism]

100% ES for clogs...

[junior arrow]

if its on the rare table use DK

[fast verge]

okok

[tall horizon]

You didn't read for very well then

[junior arrow]

you need to read more then the first dot point

[muted bramble]

i got smooth brain

https://tenor.com/view/bloodcartier-gif-25860033

[dapper prism]

More info:
#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[zealous niche]

Start reading more, it roughs your brain up

[native onyx]

It's a shame Siege Breaker kind of got the short end of the stick between the three classes

[dapper prism]

You betraying me? 😦

[faint jacinth]

qq: isn't there something that if you don't use any prayers you have like all of them but bit weaker without the bad side of each?

[junior arrow]

yea from gaming, you get 1/5 the bonuses

not worth it though

you cant get giants with that as well, so even bigger downside

[faint jacinth]

Yeah, just found out that about the giant mobs, been weeks without them because of that, thanks for the intel!

Did the community already produced a guide to optimize Vman speedruns?

[dapper prism]

A bunch of stuff in #1084911530417606656

main thing is to not forget the hidden portals (like 2ndery portals) or extra ones from buff maps.

Also the route itself can be a bit situational based on dmg

[fast verge]

ok i got it

es only took around 20 hours of candy

for 8

[muted bramble]

asked openly

[full plover]

any tip for farming easy resource cards like wood?

[vocal ibex]

Can I get the link to the pin for statues

I can not find it been minutes

[paper nova]

Does mman transfusion work in lab??

[lapis mesa]

oh hey, thats lucky.. i only started going for crystal island today

[vocal ibex]

Congrats

That's a good one

[lapis mesa]

oh my word.. an extra 120 mil on my DK

[last quiver]

@full plover card drop rate and amount of ore farmed

[full plover]

why amount of ore farmed? you man waste time on it?

[lament jasper]

Doesnt in skills above w3 iirc

[vagrant mountain]

we eatin goodd tonight

[lament jasper]

Utterdisrespect any%

[last quiver]

@full plover if you farm 10mil/hour you should get more cards than 10/ore an hour

[vast nest]

how much damage do you need to start thinking about rift 46? just got 30b damage for rift 41 and its making 46 seem way out of reach

[last quiver]

I got stuck @ 31 with 300m

[lapis mesa]

im in that exact same boat lol

[faint jacinth]

QQ: the megacrit chance to happen is the % after 100%? Like, if I have 150%, mega crit chance is 50%

Ah, first one from fam to reach 400 🙂

also, thanks guys, think yesterday was like 1400mil, now is

[lapis mesa]

mine was my bubo.. by a lot lol

[faint jacinth]

@vagrant mountain figure that 1910mil won't change the fact that nightmare Kattlecruk will still take a long while to kill, right?

[vagrant mountain]

probably want to be 50b+ before thinking about farming nightmare kruk

even 50b is a longish fight like 10 mins

[opaque sun]

2b damage will maybe take like 10 hrs to kill it

[dapper prism]

vman, max afk rate and card rate, candy it

[faint jacinth]

nah, with 1,4b it was taking around 2 hours

[lament jasper]

Brave

[vagrant mountain]

yeah just stick to the grind, you''ll get there

[lapis mesa]

its so amazing to see how little levels can mean

[faint jacinth]

Man, alch resourses are way too spread out and too important, ffs

[lapis mesa]

shows that all the other work really pays off

[dapper prism]

88b dmg was 12mins for me* (vman specifically, slower)

[vagrant mountain]

that's why it's important to focus your skilling bubbles so you can get better prints

[vagrant mountain]

i guess it depends on the character, i farmed nmare kruk for a while on my DK with 77b damage and it was 5 mins per kill

[dapper prism]

Oh sorry i mean for vman

Vman gotta roam, dk disciple deals with all moles so u can camp*

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i still gotta kill nmare kruk on my vman

im at about 10b on my vman i think

he is still in welfare gear though, once i get magma i might try to grind out the long fight hehe

[dapper prism]

poor vman in welfare gear xD

[vagrant mountain]

spare some change sir

[unkempt arch]

what damage for vman to kill nightmare kattlekeunk? was it 100B?

[dapper prism]

Dmg = just longer, as just said few lines up, 88b took me 12mins, so 40b would just make it like 30ish mins

also didnt have multi fists maxed on each tab

[vagrant mountain]

meanwhile my DK

[dapper prism]

Posted a vid for VMAN NM Kattle here: @unkempt arch
So you'll see, less dmg would just make you repeat this more
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[vagrant mountain]

we miss the communist days

[zealous niche]

Tell us you have a favourite without telling us you have a favourite

[vagrant mountain]

[dapper prism]

Arnt you ashamed that the neck isnt upgraded?

[zealous niche]

I love my children equally!

[vagrant mountain]

i wish

thats why getting my vman to kill nmare kruk is top of my list

hahaha

my body is ready

[dapper prism]

Had to filter my cloves again xD

[vagrant mountain]

XDD

[tame meteor]

LOL

[faint jacinth]

it's like a lot of information to cross-check
like, print stuff for refinery but for stamps and alch too, and which to set as priority is also a kick in the face at this point
Weird thing is that like, 'oh I can reach end game content', but also 'oh,my chars are still weak af somehow'

[vagrant mountain]

once you have big stacks of everything, you dont have to worry about refinery

a goal i set myself when i was at around your spot in progression was trying to hit 1b prints for hourly clicks

[dapper prism]

i keps silver, got several K frags today

great for rerolling kattle obols and stuff

[dapper prism]

Hourly clicks, image

[vagrant mountain]

true

[vagrant mountain]

yup

it paid off hehe

sort of

[dapper prism]

idk, i never do, mine are at 300-400ish and still hit that 980b oak sample 👀

Should easily be 1b+ now though

[vagrant mountain]

i have like 200m~ samples

but 200m prints 1b

[dapper prism]

11b prints here 😄
https://i.imgur.com/brg0Ped.png

[vagrant mountain]

im clicking 4 bubbles rn, i was doing 6 but i was getting no excess atoms lol

dang nice haha

[dapper prism]

21% (7 day) arti atm

[vagrant mountain]

rn i make enough atoms to click larry 40x and 30k+ to save/spend on boron collider

but upgrades are 100k now

so i need to resample

[dapper prism]

speaking of larry.. need to go do a CC

https://i.imgur.com/Ku9PFjL.png

About to be done 😄

[vagrant mountain]

sheesh

[dapper prism]

then few days into statue (yellow 3)

[vagrant mountain]

nice

im almost done with 1100 larry >_<

[twilit goblet]

bubble 1 levels?

[vagrant mountain]

i think im gonna wait until i can hourly click larry before i go past 1100

[twilit goblet]

mann if so i shud really change my hourly clicks to something other than bubble 1 if possible

[dapper prism]

Low, 350-400
https://i.imgur.com/vnIWAjp.png

[vagrant mountain]

lvl 1 petting the rift

damn it looks like purple bubbles are your fav

[dapper prism]

I did it to push oak early on

Need to go touch up orange

Especially orange 2. Should get that to 500+

[jovial crest]

Anvilnomics not being 1

[dapper prism]

But now i kinda want statue quickly

[dapper prism]

Just because i was a nub and lvld it early on above 5

[twilit goblet]

interesting, your 2 slab bubbles are pretty high in bubble

[vagrant mountain]

hammer hammer is underrated

[twilit goblet]

@vagrant mountain how many oaks sample currently?

[dapper prism]

Just hope my Carpenter gets into range for atom..

[twilit goblet]

i see you're a ore guyy

[twilit goblet]

that's before doot multiplies yea?

[dapper prism]

I seriously, never do hourly clicks. That would kill me

[vagrant mountain]

most of my clicks come from omni procs tbh

and vman

[lapis mesa]

Woot, first 500m

[vagrant mountain]

halfway to your first bil 😎

[twilit goblet]

about 250m oak samples

[lapis mesa]

just need to figure out how lmao

[vagrant mountain]

i think if i resampled now, can get 400m sample

especially with new statues

[twilit goblet]

i shud really resample

every hour is a lot more atoms when it gets multiply by 6

[vagrant mountain]

im trying to wait until i finish the onyx grind

[lapis mesa]

told myself id resample once a week or so, since i should be making some decent progress on diff bubbles, that was 2 weeks ago 😦

[twilit goblet]

yea same, but i figure only the skilling statue matters? unless u are waiting to deposit the statues

which i was, but i guessi shud resample now instead and rake in the gainss

[vagrant mountain]

after i finish all the onyx statues, ill have 7x statue multi

and i can push to 250 statue in a matter of days

[exotic juniper]

just got to tremurs and no damage require jumps up 100k. crystals 1 shot my poor bubo

[twilit goblet]

yeaa it's the authentic tremurs experience lull

[exotic juniper]

lol

[pearl cedar]

Do you have the prayer on

[jovial crest]

More def

[exotic juniper]

which prayer

[pearl cedar]

The one that decreases defence and or star sign

[exotic juniper]

oh i did lol but the crystal still wrecks me

my def is only 4.6k

[serene kiln]

Do you not one shot?

If you don’t one shot the mobs don’t active w5

[exotic juniper]

yea i do one shot

[serene kiln]

I went through w5 with my bb ago

Afk

[exotic juniper]

dont 1 shot the crystal on tremur lvl

[serene kiln]

Ah I see

[vagrant mountain]

pump fmj or upgrade your armor

[exotic juniper]

yea started pumping fmj

[vagrant mountain]

max hp helps

[barren otter]

does IE's anvil speed not account for onyx statues yet?

oh it doesnt seem like it does

[vagrant mountain]

i feel like toolbox isnt accurate either

[dapper prism]

Gotta give em some time to update it

[exotic juniper]

ok with some cards and things i can survive actually maybe

havent used def cards since like world 2 lol

[vagrant mountain]

i mean they dont count my hammer hammer bubble either

[twilit goblet]

250m to 288m oak samples after hourly clicking a few days of bubble 1 and onyx statue chopping

smaller gains than expected

[vagrant mountain]

what is your statue level

[twilit goblet]

but onyx now

[feral hemlock]

Thats only multikill not multipertier, so bad talent?

[vagrant mountain]

i have 180~ chopping / mining statues and onyxing them gave me like 30% more efficiency

[dapper prism]

ffs no matter what my Vman DR is worse than ES... cant find the difference for es..

[twilit goblet]

maybe i shud just change it to hourly clicking the mining bubbles, seek gains there instead

[dapper prism]

Gear, Prayer, Obols, Card, Cardset, Star signs, chips, all the same

[vagrant mountain]

and your vman's is less than your ES?

keychain?

[dapper prism]

Same gear

[vagrant mountain]

po box? lol

[dapper prism]

Maxed on all

[vagrant mountain]

seems like you got everything

[dapper prism]

I've gone through everything 3 times now, comparing it all. The only thing i found different on my first run was trophy (since vman isnt 450) so i removed it from ES

15.77x vs 15.99x
vman vs es

No bubble should be different for either

[vagrant mountain]

its like one card or a doubler maybe

[dapper prism]

Same exact cards and chips

[lament jasper]

Cant u see DR source on IE ?

[vagrant mountain]

kruk hat and shoes?

o

[modern plaza]

#💖future-content-blog message
is this deployed?

[dapper prism]

That was the main difference before i did my run, Divine vs magma but then i crafted divine for my vman before starting

[lament jasper]

What was it if it does work? Im curious lol

[dapper prism]

Where does IE even show dr? 🤔

[lament jasper]

Probably in players tab ? Cant double check rn im on phone ui is ass

[vagrant mountain]

toolbox has droprate

[serene solstice]

do I need to finish the monlith quest on every character to unlock them on all character? because I did it on second char but the tool gets not accepted a second time at the statue

[lament jasper]

Everyone switching to toolbox is it that better?

[vagrant mountain]

information is more complete

but IE still has its uses

[lament jasper]

I'll try and compare out of curiosity

[vagrant mountain]

i just have both open

[dapper prism]

toolbox seems wrong AF with DR even after cloudsave

[dapper prism]

same, both have their different purposes

[vagrant mountain]

it doesnt count bundle bonus

but it should serve its purpose

[dapper prism]

time to move obols around 😦

[vagrant mountain]

it was obols? 😆

[dapper prism]

No, i mean to compare through toolbox

[vagrant mountain]

oh

[dapper prism]

Just annoying af to move obols over between pages

[gray pagoda]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438216759120756737/1143752828897218640/image.png
Is this supposed to be a W6 NPC or something?

[dapper prism]

Probably?

[vagrant mountain]

would make sense

theres no way lava pulls a fast one on us and releases w6 out of the blue

[gray pagoda]

I mean, with the bamboo it certainly looks like it. But according to the new roadmap, W6 should be months away.

[vagrant mountain]

probably the first of a long list of sneak peaks

[gray pagoda]

Seriously! There's no way he could've had enough time to work on it!

[vagrant mountain]

yeah lava dont do it

😉

[gray pagoda]

Fr, I would totally hate it if W6 came out

[austere garnet]

i have king doot, and two divination links unlocked, but not all of my characters can be assigned in the Lab?

the 3 I can assign have the bear "selected", but arent they all active cause of king doot?

[last quiver]

If you have doot, all gods are active for you

even locked ones

[austere garnet]

i dont think thats true, because i can't assign all of my people to the lab

[paper nova]

Does IE or anything tell me when my NBLB will proc?

[last quiver]

I don't have the god unlocked that gives bonus time for 1 in 6 skills but I'm collecting it

IE does, and it procs on your daily reset

[last quiver]

guild tab, daily quests when it reaches 0 your nblb procs

[austere garnet]

thats what should be active with king doot right?

[last quiver]

idk all my people are in the lab sentai

even though they are running around doing stuff

[paper nova]

oh on daily reset? ty

[vagrant mountain]

have you activated divinity on all your characters?

[austere garnet]

the only 3 I can assign to lab that arent in it, are the ones I clicked link to first

yea

[last quiver]

oh yeah you need like divinity XL 2 or smth

[vagrant mountain]

try sitting on the altar with all of your characters and restarting game

and choose a style

[last quiver]

yeah

[austere garnet]

i did technically do that

I have two gods, and they both say "unlink" on all characters, but only the ones that have god 2 above them can get in the lab currently

[vagrant mountain]

have you chosen a style in the divinity menu

[austere garnet]

im fully relogging and checking first though

relogging did nothing, and i thought choosing the style was automatic?

[vagrant mountain]

no

[austere garnet]

i sat my main, the first one on that image, on the altar, saved to character menu and relogged but they're still not available in the lab

[vagrant mountain]

sit all of them

on the altar

with a style

[austere garnet]

it already looked like this

do i need to earn at least some XP?

[vagrant mountain]

yes

bruh

[austere garnet]

you just said choose a style

[onyx escarp]

quick question but you cant use candy in world 5?

[austere garnet]

no

[onyx escarp]

damn

[vagrant mountain]

im trying to help you but youre not listening to me lol

sit all of your characters on the altar

[onyx escarp]

youre already in a style

[vagrant mountain]

with a style

and relog

[onyx escarp]

its default

[vagrant mountain]

you are doing everything i tell you backwards

or not even doing it

[onyx escarp]

when you hit high enough levels in divinity you can change style

[austere garnet]

i have doot

some of my characters wont appear for the lab

[onyx escarp]

even if you have doot unless you unlock the gods first you wont get it

[vagrant mountain]

gl lana

[onyx escarp]

shrug

[austere garnet]

i do in this case. knowing that the character needs to earn some xp helps though

i do believe none of them have earned any

[onyx escarp]

do you know why cant use candy in w5?

[dapper prism]

You never can in the highest world

[onyx escarp]

oooh

[dapper prism]

when w6 comes, u can

[onyx escarp]

ok, ill just die in w5 then ty 👍

[vagrant mountain]

nice

[solid epoch]

any happy hour gamers wanna do a dungeon run?

[vagrant mountain]

i would if i had anymore boosters

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/8q4X8eh.png

[vagrant mountain]

jesus

[solid epoch]

if only i could share some

[random gulch]

Is it just me or es feels better to farm w3 statues compared to dk?

Since those only drop from the normal mobs

[opaque sun]

The mob specific ones are obviously better with ES

[solid epoch]

itll be better for the mob specific statues

[opaque sun]

DK and ES effectivity is not determined by type of item, but more on who drops them

[solid epoch]

if it drops from a crystal mob, use DK to farm it. if its a regular mob use ES

[opaque sun]

Lot of misconception is that people think mob mats are ES and rares are DK

[vagrant mountain]

[dapper prism]

Figured out an issue, ES weapon has mob respawn* so more statues than vman atm

[vagrant mountain]

i cant read that fast

oh lol

[dapper prism]

ES:
15.61x No trophy = 338% AFK, 104 box, 43 Exp
16.81x with trophy = 338% AFK, 112 box, 46 Exp
Vman:
15.71x No trophy = 340% AFK 101 Box, 52 Exp
N/a Not 450 = N/a

No clue why my ES has 2% less afk though suddenly, earlier he was 340 xD 🤔

[opaque sun]

Lava needs new character sheet tab that shows respawn rate, crystal rate, and each damage/money pools

[dapper prism]

same card+card set still, only moving wings and mob respawn keychains and dr obols between vman/es (both have santa)

[vagrant mountain]

yeah theres too many invisible stats in this game

[timber summit]

How does the nothing island work?

[opaque sun]

Afk info also should have unmodified base kills

Fractal island bugged to count as fishing afk

[vagrant mountain]

thank god we have toolbox lol

[dapper prism]

You afk there, and unlock rewards. Check wiki for details on rewards

[opaque sun]

So as of now, only way to progress fractal hrs is using irl afk hours at town

[timber summit]

If i afk there it counts as fishing

[timber summit]

Cant use timecandies?

[opaque sun]

Lava oversight and allha tester missing to catch it

When in town (ZZZ mode) you cant use candies

So irl afk hours only, for now i think

[dapper prism]

Lol really? xD

[opaque sun]

Wait when people get 4th island, lava should fix fractal due to many complaints

[dapper prism]

Even though it says time candy works throughout multiple areas?

[vagrant mountain]

lava fix?

[opaque sun]

Issue right now is only very few got fractal as one of their first 3 islanda

[dapper prism]

Whoever these "testers" are.. they don't seem to test anything tbh

[opaque sun]

Sometimes lava adds last minute fix after its been tested

[vagrant mountain]

testers from wish.com

[dapper prism]

More like wisch.. the knockoff from wish

[opaque sun]

So right now all you can do is write a bug report that fractal island counts as fishing afk

[wind umbra]

correct me if im wrong but didnt they stop ppl from using candies in town because they didnt want ppl to boost divinity through goharut?

[opaque sun]

You never could have used on complete idle

To prevent people wasting candies

[wind umbra]

oh ok makes sense

[fallen torrent]

45k statue through the workshift, nice

[opaque sun]

Candy in w5 town in cooking and lab was specifically blocked to prevent the divinity cheese tho

So either lava needs to make fractal island count as ZZZ idle, or allow people to use candies on nothing mode in towns

[timber summit]

I hope fractal island works

[wind umbra]

does afk nothing start counting even before fractal or do u have to have fractal before it starts counting?

if they make time candies work for nothing, at least track it for ppl that accidentally use it lol

[willow drum]

time to redo traps

[opaque sun]

You can spend irl hours ZZZ at town, but thats not really practical to meet the requirements its asking

[modern plaza]

time to grind out 100k statues, gotta get those thicc onyx 😄

this onyx statue update is pretty lit

[fallen torrent]

going to get my 100k statue on my second char overnight probably, maybe before

and get exphee and kapow onyx ^^

[opaque sun]

can also candy people on copper mining for classes that sucks at active combat to get 100k statues

[fallen torrent]

oh i could do that true

[placid mural]

yeah onyx update was a sleeper powerhouse upgrade

[opaque sun]

onyx statues roughly gives around 20% more samples in relative to pre-update

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i got 200 more mining power from my lvl 180 statue lol

and now its going to be easy to push to 250

[fallen torrent]

topbird, why copper, wouldnt it be better dreadlo? or is the droprate different?

or copper because the gain/hr is just insane

[sharp ruin]

Are oranges best place to statue hunt in w5?

[opaque sun]

well you can dreadlo if efficiency allows, but just an example for anyone in this room

[fallen torrent]

oh okay even if i get 1B/hr copper and 1m/dreadlo/hr the statue gain will be the same?

[vagrant mountain]

technically yes but tremor wurms are just as fast

[opaque sun]

dreadlo should give more statues due to the rare bags being like 1/70 while copper is 1/150

[fallen torrent]

oh okay yeah figured so i was confused a bit by wqhat yo usaid

[opaque sun]

If you can maintain 100% efficiency without sacrificing tool speed, dreadlo will get roughly twice more statues

[fallen torrent]

i tought i was failing at candying dreadlo

[sharp ruin]

Do you know what maps are best for w2/3/4?

[opaque sun]

When i said “copper” you can do w1 trees too

[fallen torrent]

doing so on my DK he need to lvl up a bit his mining (my sub-dk)

[vagrant mountain]

they're in the pins but sandy pots / bloodbones / clammies

[opaque sun]

I personally used this occasion to level my miners to lv100, just slightly below of vman’s mining

[sharp ruin]

Thank you 🥰🥰

[fallen torrent]

yeah thats what i was gonna do ^^

[opaque sun]

If your miners gets too close to vman’s level, move down a ore to slow the exp

Excess efficiency doesnt increase drops, but big pick seems to increase rare drops (probably its considered as tool speed bonus in afk)

[fallen torrent]

my second DK was lacking in term of talent page 2 skilling

and i just used 20 book to boost orb haha

[distant oxide]

Anyone have the snail unlocked with a lower gold nugget?

[grand karma]

i unlocked it at about 5k i think, been some time though

[fallen torrent]

onyx kapow done.

now time to get different other statue for stacking bonu

[grand karma]

who did you do the second set of statues on? im assuming dk and one more

[fallen torrent]

2 DK

[glad crow]

this is my current progress

[opaque sun]

did on vman to get extra number of quests done

[fallen torrent]

book anvil alchemy W2 right? tysons

[grand karma]

defense too

[delicate current]

Is there a reason I can't use candy on w5?

[fallen torrent]

because lava blocked it

[glad crow]

cant use candy on newest world

[fallen torrent]

because its too hot

[opaque sun]

always cant use in latest world

Lava gets grumpy when people finish new contents in 1 hr

[delicate current]

Ouch ok ty

[fallen torrent]

time tofarm W2 statue 🙂

[mystic stump]

W6 probably out by Halloween

[timber summit]

What is best place to get power statues?

[zealous niche]

Pins

[timber summit]

Pins?

[grand karma]

check w5 pins

[timber summit]

Nvrm

Lol was 1 brain cell away

[opaque sun]

lava sees this and add a w6 mob called Puzzling Pins or something

[zealous niche]

Pls no

That will be chaos for the discord

There will be discord in the discord D:

[opaque sun]

“Where is the best place to cc?”
Pins

[barren otter]

pin the pins...

[opaque sun]

“That map only has 1 mob, why is it the best map to cc?”

[granite grove]

wdym we cant bubo cc on exiled nutto map

[strong nova]

if only we can lock statue in storage to not deposited

it seem lava start work towward W6

[gritty viper]

Hi with Doot do I need to have people on divinity in order to gain divinity points and exp?

Or do Goharut and Arctis work together?

[granite grove]

no, Goharut need to be in actual lab

[night falcon]

i dont get how to get the lava skull in rift 17

[granite grove]

Goharut is free divinity while actually be in lab, Arctis is free player connection without actually be in lab

[hollow ledge]

is this essentially max value or does it go higher?

saw someone say 20% was max

[wind umbra]

max 25%

[opaque sun]

22% would be the typical “aim for 90% effectivity of a hardcap bubble”

[sacred dove]

is it better to leave many like this to reach next tier or just 1 and pray?

[opaque sun]

Unless you recouping from a snail reset, i wouldnt aim for logbook tiers

[solid epoch]

been farmin wurms since yesterday, almost 20k on the battleaxe

[sacred dove]

failed snail level up twice at measly 5 and 7, starting back from lvl 6 now. just have one more to complete log book

[dapper prism]

If you don't have chem.. dont go for tiers

Typical at 20 slots would be ~ 10x T5's and then gather up chems for time skips, 20/20 of 1 plant would be pretty terrible

[sacred dove]

i do have chems

[dapper prism]

10x T5's with a 3 minute cycle = roughly 150 days for a T6

[dapper prism]

Then even worse not utilizing chems..

[sacred dove]

alright so any idea on what ratio should i use?

[dapper prism]

20x t5's at 3min cycle would be 75ish days. Yet no time skips.

Just mentioned it above?

[sacred dove]

ah i see ok thanks

[dapper prism]

Not sure mathematically what the actual best setup would be, but having the 10x t5's with 10 open slots is still a bunch of chances at new chems

did you get all other T6's by just camping 20x T5 plants?!

[sacred dove]

previously was just one each and that was pretty quick

trying to see if which is roughly better

[opaque sun]

I would take the qol luxuary of “not checking gaming” on full plants that i want tiers and wait for the snail envelopes to recover

[sacred dove]

i thnk i will just try to sstick with one, and get more chances for chems

[dapper prism]

Just 1 single T5 would be pretty rough

[opaque sun]

Its like why make more work, when its the opportune time to go on a vacation

[dapper prism]

Depends if you still need gaming progress

But 1x t5 would be ~1500 days.

10x T5s at 150 days barely takes 2-5 days

(at 3 min cycles)

For me, the more so i'd get it done quickly with a low snail as you dont mind the loss of bits and spots. So removing t1's etc. doesnt feel like a waste 🤷

[sacred dove]

hmm, alright i will try it out, previously with 20 , waited a week and there was no progress.

rngesus prolly hates me

[dapper prism]

Because at 20x T5's (3min) it would take you 10 weeks..

Minus reductions of omni and other gaming skips (bubble, dk, log)

[sacred dove]

also another question about snail, what level do i need to start increasing chances?

[dapper prism]

With atom failsafe, i would mostly just yolo it to 20 🤷

[serene kiln]

What would you guys consider a good print rate to start collider

[strong nova]

maybe 10m

[opaque sun]

with atom snail check points, snail doesnt need encouragement until around lv20

[sacred dove]

wow haha

ok XD

[dapper prism]

Just make sure you actually have the atom failsafe unlock for the levels xD

Also REMEMBER: YOU MUST CLOUDSAVE! After unlocking atom stuff for it to work.

[sacred dove]

ah shit taht is good know

[dapper prism]

I'd say, few 10's of M throughout

[zealous niche]

Also a good lifesaver, don't actually turn the collider on, it automatically converts anything above 1050M into atoms, and I managed to ruin quite a few vial progresses by accidentally changing it to convert at 15M

[unkempt arch]

I see I never really thought to attack the moles before

[dapper prism]

100%, set collider to 1050 (just incase) and turn it off. double safety xD

[unkempt arch]

unfortunately I'm only on 10B

I'll give it a go when I have the time

[dapper prism]

Yeh, so depending, 10b could take you lake 1.5h or something if you really wanted to xD

Maybe 2h if unlucky 🤷

[unkempt arch]

I fought Biggie for 3 hours for mman

[serene kiln]

Oh ok I see

[unkempt arch]

[dapper prism]

Also remember to use DMG cards and anything that helps.
Enter the boss fight with card chance card (it snapshots) then switch to dmg preset for better kill, before he dies though change to drop chance.

[serene kiln]

I’m only printing about 30 mil copper

[dapper prism]

Per slot or total?

[unkempt arch]

oo snapshots still worked? I thought they got patched

[serene kiln]

Per slot

[dapper prism]

Card should?

[solemn spire]

this is some serious nerd min maxing ngl

i like it

[dapper prism]

That can be fine then, with a 30m copper you should be at 50m+ oak if you didnt neglect it

[serene kiln]

Yeah I think my chopping is a little behind

[unkempt arch]

I used to snapshot mob respawn but seeing lava patched it just assumed cards got patched too

[serene kiln]

I have to get the nails going throughout my characters for that bubble in alchemy

[dapper prism]

Mana/Hp/Stats for alchemy (for sampling work)
Vid and Info here: #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

And card chance is as simple as having cards on, enter a map, then change.

[sacred dove]

i wonder why fish statue is not available thtough crystal, but catching statue is

[unkempt arch]

sampling was already painful

but for the gains I would do that

thanks

[dapper prism]

Once you set stuff up, it barely takes 30m seconds. If you plan to not sample for a bit, can be worth it. Especially since people barely even do it every 2 weeks
Comes down to purpose, if you're trying to push for atoms, can be nice. Especially after you unlocked some big/new content, like these onyx statues. Just min/max the hell out of it, then dont worry for a bit.

[zealous niche]

Does the efficiency multiplier affect rare drops? E.g. flies dropping more fish statues due to higher amount of flies per swing

[unkempt arch]

I'll wait for the statues and my skilling obol set first then

[sacred dove]

would like to know as well

[ancient quail]

When will there be a new pet rotation? I thought they would rotate every 10 weeks

[dapper prism]

Shouldnt, some are no matter what spot, some like doing mining is best rate at highest ore with 100%+ effy

[unkempt arch]

@dapper prism could u help me look at my ie?

[dapper prism]

gotta afk for 30mins

[solid epoch]

i can help if u want

[unkempt arch]

https://buff_pp.idleonefficiency.com

tyty

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/7UjGMvf.png

use these

also do ur minibosses

https://i.imgur.com/k1hjM46.png

atom this for bigger log print

up to lvl 500 or so

[serene kiln]

Nvm wow logs are cake

[glad crow]

u even have one

[serene kiln]

I’m printing 75mil per slot

[solid epoch]

also get hoccus choppus, le brain tools, and severapurple up to higher levels, closer to their 90% values

[unkempt arch]

what do you mean

[solid epoch]

u have a -1% drop chance equipped

[glad crow]

how is it soo high?

[prisma drift]

Construction mastery rift?

[unkempt arch]

It didn't update?

[solid epoch]

also upgrade your multitool stamp to lvl 200

[glad crow]

you also def want too work on deathnote

[unkempt arch]

gotcha

I wanna get the magma gloves tho

[solid epoch]

yeah getting those eclipse skulls going will be big for you, may as well use a few candies on gmush btw

[glad crow]

upgrade some of these for big gains

[solid epoch]

ah wait nvm ur gmush is good

it just isnt eclipse skull because u dont have it unlocked yet

[glad crow]

alot of cooking gains to be done

[solid epoch]

go unlock that rift if u can

[unkempt arch]

wiat

what

I unlocked up till ruby cards tho

[covert sphinx]

do u have to claim trash daily or does it stack for a few days?

[unkempt arch]

is it worth tho?

[solid epoch]

oh mb i just checked mine, guess IE doesnt show eclipse skull

[unkempt arch]

increase was minimal

[solid epoch]

mines at lvl 150, any increase helps

+82.5% at that lvl

[unkempt arch]

alright

gotta put some more guys on bricks then

[solid epoch]

but increasing ur multitool is the most important so u can get big prints

[glad crow]

get dreadlo on all of these

[unkempt arch]

doesn't it get ridiculously expensive?

[unkempt arch]

sure

[solid epoch]

multitool? not as bad as the refinery stamp

[unkempt arch]

I think I have everything but didn't have the worship levels to equip so I stopped

[unkempt arch]

aight

[solid epoch]

like u definitely will be able to get to lvl 200 on multitool

cuz im at 200

[unkempt arch]

?

[solid epoch]

and u have more gmush kills/money than me

[unkempt arch]

oh

[opaque sun]

Crystal chance is one of the high priority stat in the game

[solid epoch]

yeah work on both of those

[unkempt arch]

I don't really check IE so half the time I just assume I have 7 godshard

[solid epoch]

with the money you have you could upgrade your refinery stamp by 15 levels btw

thats pretty important

https://i.imgur.com/UrYSiS7.png

u have 7k GS

[opaque sun]

Issue with in game UI is that it treats the highest two digits of your money as 10 god shards

Even if you actualky have 56700 god shards, game be like “oh you only have 56 godshards”

[unkempt arch]

scared the daylights outta me the first time I saw that bug tbh

thought I just lost all my money overnight

[paper nova]

Sheep makes large bubbles always active... Do IT / IE show that? IT shows my chars have 2 bubbles equipped

[serene kiln]

How many gmush kills do you need to get to getting god shards

[unkempt arch]

it does

[solid epoch]

you could also work on your slab, there are quite a few super easy crafts that you could do to get some extra slab items found

https://i.imgur.com/yRKVuEe.png

[unkempt arch]

on IE it does

[unkempt arch]

I forgot that existed tbh

[solid epoch]

yeah u could easily get 100 more slab if u wanted

tons of easy crafts

[unkempt arch]

once saw the cost for diablocal armour and just decided never to do it

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/bsobOG8.png