lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[misty spindle]

also do I harvest my lvl 3 plants in gaming or wait for them to level up?

[vagrant mountain]

all the w5 upgrades are all pretty mid but solid

[quiet pewter]

level 3 or 4 is fine, assuming you got th elog book entry

[misty spindle]

Im not precises to a second but I check every few hours

also is my chance for a new artifact, normal, supposed to be like 5-10%

[clear quartz]

same, i overshoot it sometimes, but i never leave home so fairly accurate if i dont zone out. or i fall asleep lol

[quiet pewter]

yes but itll get a lot worse

[zealous niche]

Wait? You guys still get more than a hundredth chance at an artifact?

[viral snow]

More like 1/1000

[fading cape]

why just this morning I had double that chance!

[quiet pewter]

this sounds like a terrible way to play

[clear quartz]

por que?

[signal osprey]

Yeah 3 hours is too long. Hourly clicks or bust

[quiet pewter]

i mean unless your severly disabled, leave your freakin house sometiems

[signal osprey]

Some people work from home

[fading cape]

hourly? Gotta get that 2 min rush

[viral snow]

its called dedication

[clear quartz]

i work at home, yeah. and all my rl friends moved away or died, same with family

[fading cape]

I work from home, and I definitely highly recommend leaving your house at least once a day to take a walk

(Assuming your physically or mentally able)

[viral snow]

gotta get on that grindset

[signal osprey]

Yeah you take a 30-45 minute walk in between your hourly clicks

[fading cape]

You got a camera in my office or something?

[signal osprey]

No I just hourly click

[misty spindle]

Can someone tell me the best map to farm xp for my maestro? lvl 112 currently

[fading cape]

you got choco chip? If not what's your crystal rate?

[misty spindle]

1 in 307

[fading cape]

oof.

[clear quartz]

i miss goin for walks, ngl

[fading cape]

Wherever you can one shot the mobs. Go there, check aFK info, compare to other maps.

Without choco chip or less than 1/50 crystal chance you're just trying to find the best XP per hour map

[red scarab]

When power leveling smithing, what’s the best item to craft? FMJ bullets?

[fading cape]

coldseeker bullets

[misty spindle]

21 mill in a W4 map, that good enough?

[fading cape]

I have no idea. That's more of a personal question.

Your account mileage may vary.

[misty spindle]

kinda wanna push for vman so I need some help

[fading cape]

Got candy?

[misty spindle]

not much

spent most

[fading cape]

craft beginner XP sets in smithing?

[misty spindle]

for?

[fading cape]

for... XP...

[devout warren]

I have 1m kills on w1-w3 all mobs but my Maestro is level 116

I'm doomed

[misty spindle]

but thats just smithing xp and not class, am I wrong?

[devout warren]

How do i get this??

Need it asap

[signal osprey]

Its in anvil tab 3

[misty spindle]

dude 2 gloves.... no way I can craft that

[fading cape]

Theres a hat and a hoodie. Anvil tab 3.

[devout warren]

🤔

[misty spindle]

I need a month of farming for that

[fading cape]

You have crecent moon and fly cards?

[devout warren]

I'm missing 65 snowflakes for electric weapon

[misty spindle]

yep

[devout warren]

Everything else i got

[misty spindle]

2 stars and 3 stars

[fading cape]

put those on. Go to highest area

[devout warren]

Is it worth putting all chars on snowflakes?

[misty spindle]

good question

[fading cape]

not without a high drop rate. The weapon probably won't be insanely impactful

Honestly the beginner gear isn't worth pushing for. Crescent moon and fly cards are stronger

or using a bubo to farm Grind Time bubble also faster

[devout warren]

So should i active farm on maestro? Doesn't make much sense

[willow drum]

crescent moon & fly cards + poop & genie = best xp

[devout warren]

Especially at level 116 w5 mobs

[fading cape]

The crescent moon card and fly cards make farming active worth it for XP if you're pushing for a specific level. They only work while active and they multiple differently than other XP cards

[willow drum]

always farm crystals for xp

[devout warren]

What do you mean by fly cards

[fading cape]

yeah, I asked their crystal rate higher up. They're still at 1/500

[misty spindle]

I mean at this rate im getting 1 level per 10 hours of active play

[fading cape]

so the cards will help a LOT. But they won't be specifically crystal farming

[devout warren]

I think you guys are insane for telling a low level maestro to farm crystals for XP

Can't even survive 1 hit

[fading cape]

I mean.. I specifically didn't. haha

[willow drum]

you asked for xp

not my fault you lack in w1-w4

[devout warren]

Can't get xp if you're dead

[lyric sequoia]

Or just go to world 5 where there is exp a plenty, not really hard

[fading cape]

Honestly if you're not to the point where you're able to be focusing on specific XP methods, it's just incremental gains, and you're not going to get much from having Vman as opposed to maestro

[devout warren]

Isn't Voidwalker overpowered?

That's what everyone says

[fading cape]

If you have enough damage and multikill to get 10+ maps in

[willow drum]

for combat no

[fading cape]

If you can't survive a crystal you ain't getting that far

[misty spindle]

So is it more worth to just let maestro skill instead for levels?

[lyric sequoia]

When you have the ability to get good speedruns vman's abillities are strong yes

[fading cape]

Until he is higher skill level than all others in all W1-3 skills, yes

[devout warren]

Are you talking about w5 multikill? Not even my best char has that

[lyric sequoia]

Unlocking vman isn't instant power, really even the actual strong parts of vman are only strong if your account is equally as strong

[fading cape]

Your vman is going to be your weakest damage character. To get 10 maps into W1 during speedrun he needs to be much stronk. If you can't, you're wasting your time hyping him up.

[misty spindle]

Wish lava didnt force me to kill enemies when I need to do this and Div

[devout warren]

I don't know what speedrun is

[fading cape]

Welcome to idle gaming.

[fading cape]

it's how vman becomes good. There are guides. Too much to explain

[devout warren]

So i have to put in work?

Goddamit he sucks

Back to divinity i go

[willow drum]

div until goat and then lab with goat until you can unlock the entire lab with 5 characters

[devout warren]

How long does that take?

[misty spindle]

afk in lab? thats wild

[fading cape]

basically. In the meantime focus your active ES/DK on xp/farming/etc

[vocal ibex]

What's a decent construction rate ?

[nimble yarrow]

do you guys set all of your characters to producing one item for smithing at a time, or do you spread it out to get and even amount of each item?

[fading cape]

for what stage?

[vocal ibex]

Mmm let me see

[devout warren]

Depends what u need

[signal osprey]

There is no end to the construction grind. You always want more

[vocal ibex]

I finished unlocking all cogs not too long ago few days and highest character construction is 218

Yeah I'm nowhere near 23 fucken mil an hour

[misty spindle]

Are gem shop cogs worth the buy?

[signal osprey]

Yeah the gem shop cogs are very good

[fading cape]

all your cogs should be XP cogs. levels are infinitely superior to +build rate cogs

[fading cape]

https://monoblos.github.io/cogtimizer/

[signal osprey]

Cogtimizer isn't good

[vocal ibex]

Yeah I used that

[willow drum]

thats build rate on a bubo

[fading cape]

is there something else?

[willow drum]

on my dk with cons obols it's 80m

[signal osprey]

No but you don't need anything else either

All directionals player con exp

[signal osprey]

Rest of the cogs just look for exp rolls

[vocal ibex]

Someone posted pic I did my best

[willow drum]

change to xp sprinkler

[signal osprey]

Cogtimizer doesn't factor in exp rolls on directionals though so it actually makes your board worse

[vocal ibex]

When I get home I'll reduce the build rate when setting a build

[signal osprey]

That program was made in early days of con when people didn't realize how important exp was

[fading cape]

Like contract says. Just all XP cogs

[willow drum]

you can set cogtimizer to weight xp heavily

[vocal ibex]

I think I did 70 for construction xp and 30 for build rate

[signal osprey]

It only looks at the board exp though. It ignores directional exp

[fading cape]

I did 500 XP and 0 build rate. (When I did it, not I just sort my cogs by XP percent)

[signal osprey]

Directional exp is the most important part

[willow drum]

it suggest directional xp for me

[signal osprey]

It doesn't weight it properly though

[vocal ibex]

I'll just do 1 for flaggy 1 for rate and 98 for xp

[willow drum]

maybe, but better than manually doing it for times sakes

[misty spindle]

Do you have to do something for construction to get xp or just wait

[glad crow]

Ignore my smooth brain here, but with log scales like plunderous bonus, is it something like 1 = 1, 10 =2 100 =3, and is it then something like 3 = 1.5 , 33 = 2.5 and 333= 3.5 or am I totally misremembering

[lyric sequoia]

You want directional player exp bonus cogs around your DKs and gem cogs, no one else of the board and regular player construct cogs in every single other slot

[signal osprey]

Except its not though because the order of your cogs doesn't even matter

Make arrows with exp point at players

[lyric sequoia]

And then just wait, or cog click either way

[signal osprey]

Rest just need exp

Cogtimizer will have you go through 20 different random steps to do something that doesn't even benefit you lol

[lyric sequoia]

Order of cogs absolutely matters to know whether you should slot a new cog onto the board. Only savages keep their regular cogs out of exp order from bottom right to top left

[signal osprey]

Well thats a preference thing

And also cogtimizer won't do that either

[vocal ibex]

Keep only 2 people on board or more players ?

[lyric sequoia]

Very true

[willow drum]

only put dks on board

[gray thicket]

[willow drum]

rest in making cogs

[glad crow]

2 squire

[gray thicket]

Is the next one worth it?

[vocal ibex]

Yeah that's what I have right now okay

[gray thicket]

Thank you

[signal osprey]

Every non DK on the board takes up a slot that could be an exp cog instead

[fading cape]

one hundo

[vocal ibex]

Why does my rate change player to player of my dk is the highest at 5m

On a ranger it shows 2m

[willow drum]

warriors rule

[lyric sequoia]

DK has abilities that boost build rate

[vocal ibex]

Does it fluctuate between speeds depending on character I open the menue with ?

[signal osprey]

Bubble 2 in the orange cauldron increases the carpenter bubble which gives build speed

But each cauldrons bubble 2 only applies to that class

[vocal ibex]

Ye I been leveling it as I get mustach drops

[signal osprey]

So you have increased build rate and con exp when active on a warrior

[elfin cape]

Chaotic is more key efficient than NM for obols, right?

[vocal ibex]

Ahh so I need to be active on him

Man I be on bubonic too much

[lyric sequoia]

Regular is the most key efficient

[vocal ibex]

It's too got to not be on bubonic right now

[jagged barn]

Yes
But u miss wings

[glad crow]

Chaotic is the worst iirc, normal is the way to go for pendants if you don't want capes

[lyric sequoia]

Odds for obols and amulets are worse the higher tier kruk you go

[elfin cape]

I just want a couple troll obols

[jagged barn]

I would do nightmare if you have lots of keys

Faster

[strong crag]

finally

[pearl cedar]

Would much rather do 50 nightmare runs than 3000 normal runs

[elfin cape]

I only have 2k ish Troll keys, guess I might as well try for cape as well I guess

[somber sparrow]

is the defence main dude still around? I remember someone having like 30k defence in mid of w4

[signal osprey]

Camp broke 1m defense a few weeks ago

[pearl cedar]

Troll obolsn also much easier to get than kruk

[somber sparrow]

siiiick do you know his fmj level? XD

[signal osprey]

Not sure how high he pushed it but I think it was close to 2k

I know he still prints fruitflies for it too

[jagged barn]

1

[somber sparrow]

thats kinda still reasonable tbh XD

[somber sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-joker-happy-scary-gif-20207118

[signal osprey]

It might have been higher tbh. I don't remember the exact numbers

[fading cape]

You can just open construction on your DK and leave it closed while active on bubo. Build rate speed is based on most recent character to open it

[signal osprey]

Thays only partially true

[vocal ibex]

Mmm

[vagrant mountain]

is it just me or my DK farms coins faster than my bubo

[signal osprey]

The speed you gain from obols is based on the last character to view the board

So you can open con on a character with con obols then swap to bubo and you keep the obol bonus

But you still lose the bubble 2 effect

[vocal ibex]

Okay I'm just gotta try be active on the DM

[signal osprey]

Theres no way to keep it either. Non warriors will always build slower than warriors

[vocal ibex]

I am focusing on shrines right now

Okay so question about sailing now 🤣

[signal osprey]

I think assuming both are minmaxed bubo is a little faster but DK is definitely competitive

[vocal ibex]

This skill right here I think is making me loose chests which I need for getting the relics I have not got one in many days

[stoic crow]

which is why no one uses it

[jagged barn]

If you claim more than once or twice a day you better of without it

[vocal ibex]

I try checking it every few hours because it gets full fast

[misty spindle]

Wait should I not use that talent????

[jagged barn]

Then respec

[signal osprey]

Yeah its not worth using then

[vocal ibex]

I'm re-spec then and take it off my sailors classes

Maybe that's why I have not got relics they leave in the chest I loose

[jagged barn]

I only use it cause I claim sailing once a day

[vocal ibex]

I told them to use the chests that don't have relics too. They did the soposite

Opposite

[vagrant mountain]

farming on my bubo with 50M cash multi, i got 100~ gs in a day and now on my DK with 36M cash multi I'm getting 10 gs an hr, only big difference is that my DK can use midas + jawbreaker

[fading cape]

I don't both with skill. If I'm going to be away a while I just set minimum chest to the second instead of the first

[vocal ibex]

Mmmm interesting that I could try as well.

[paper nova]

Random items like MCR shirt, adam's pants, jman begginer trophy, frog hat, etc etc... all are just trash actually, right?

[vocal ibex]

I'm give that a shot thanks u masters

[fading cape]

drop them and pick them up first

[signal osprey]

Something seems off there because I don't think that should be happening lol

[somber sparrow]

keep stop watch ring tho

[signal osprey]

But maybe I'm wrong. Wouldn't be the first time 🤷‍♂️

[paper nova]

If i got them from looting then it counts as pickup right? But if it was deposited straight into my inven then it needs dropped + picked up again?

[fading cape]

yeeessss?

[vagrant mountain]

yeah idk, i think maybe because i maxed jawbreaker since i played on bubo. i think maybe if i log onto bubo now, ill have more cash multi than before which would affect things

[fading cape]

If you found the cookies on the ground you can eat them. But if the cookies were handed to you you'll need to drop them on the ground before eating them within 5 seconds

[paper nova]

5 secvond rule

[signal osprey]

Oh if you added points to jawbreaker thats probably it

Its a separate multi. Even just a few levels makes a decent difference

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i think bubo just farms faster than DK because of higher cash multi potential?

i think with even cash mutli DK is actually faster

[signal osprey]

They should have roughly the same potential its a quantity vs quality thing

Bubo kills significantly more mobs which means more money drops

But DK orb increases the value of each money drop

[vagrant mountain]

hmm maybe because my poison doesnt one shot crystals

yeah because i can get close to 800 each orb

which is basically average 4x money

from crystals as well

so bubo would have to kill 4x faster than DK

[misty spindle]

Can someone explain this to me please? how am I getting so damn much

[vagrant mountain]

2x lab node 3x divinity

[dreamy spruce]

if you use IT and hover over it it shows all the boosts

[willow drum]

2x lab 3x divinity multi from sailing artifact multi from dk

[dreamy spruce]

Main EXP is from crystals, do they also drop most of the money you get?

[vagrant mountain]

crystals drop 100x money

[misty spindle]

I dont have that div, that character is on bear

[dreamy spruce]

oh damn

[misty spindle]

damn I need to get my cristal chance up then

[willow drum]

if you use https://idleontoolbox.com/ it shows a breakdown of where all bonuses are coming from

[gentle anchor]

whats the best class to go for ur main

[dreamy spruce]

dk or bubo

[misty spindle]

Is this better then idleonefficiency?

[gentle anchor]

to grind deathnote kills too?

[dreamy spruce]

no for those its SB (assuming afk)

[willow drum]

they're both good for certain things I prefer IT for most things

[gentle anchor]

wait really why?

[dreamy spruce]

most kph

[gentle anchor]

what talents does he have that boost kph a lot?

[vagrant mountain]

youre gonna be playing every character anyways

if you just play one character, youre gonna hurt your progress

[dreamy spruce]

idk but he just has highest afk kph

[gentle anchor]

and active?

[willow drum]

highest damage multi with speed

[dreamy spruce]

grinding deathnote active isnt ideal, but ES

[gentle anchor]

i am doing is active i need half w2 and full w3 1mil kills for vman

[willow drum]

ES portal kills don't count for deathnote

[gentle anchor]

i am using lvl 18O ES

[gentle anchor]

wdym

[dreamy spruce]

He means that the wormhole mobs dont count towards deathnote

[gentle anchor]

ow ye

[dreamy spruce]

but ES is still better than DK or bubo (on most maps at least) esp with multikill talent

[gentle anchor]

ok

bc im using ES as main class

[dreamy spruce]

and you get most mob drops too which can be nice

but just straight up farming deathnote only isn't really worth active time, theres better ways to spend it

[gentle anchor]

ye i just need to grind it a bit for vman

[sleek tree]

what the best smith upgrade? Exp, speed or cap?

[dreamy spruce]

speed

[willow drum]

speeed

[dreamy spruce]

just only go speed

you get capacity from material bags

[vagrant mountain]

new star talents

[dreamy spruce]

I thought 104 was max

[vagrant mountain]

not anymore ig

maybe new book level cap too

10 auras????

[willow drum]

hmm yeah I thought tick tock capped

[dreamy spruce]

oh its in #💖future-content-blog didnt see him post

[vagrant mountain]

it was like 10 mins ago

[dreamy spruce]

the skeleton boi and purple book are unobtainable rn right?

[vagrant mountain]

yes

new star talents

i wonder how you level up tick tock

maybe new bonus

[misty spindle]

Islands?

[vagrant mountain]

probably not an island expansion already

[misty spindle]

true

[sleek tree]

material bags?

[willow drum]

purple book is quest exp

[misty spindle]

by the looks of it maybe somthing with rift?

[golden cipher]

they are quite useless if they have not changed them. quest exp and respawn timer

[dreamy spruce]

These things

[sleek tree]

This bags inreasy the capacity anvil?

[willow drum]

Yes

[dreamy spruce]

yeah

[sleek tree]

lol

thankss

[vagrant mountain]

how many points in capacity? lol

[willow drum]

reset item for smithing in w3 🙂

[gentle anchor]

why is ur meny so weird

menu

[vagrant mountain]

#💖future-content-blog

[elfin cape]

What's the best class to farm efaunt? ES?

[gentle anchor]

ow ok

[gentle anchor]

yes i do 3 second boss fights

just use the purple things that bounces

[paper nova]

Best time to use one of theCosmic Time Candies?

when i want to lvl fishing from 0 to 15? :p

[vagrant mountain]

no time like the presesnt

[dapper prism]

Idk why but i don't find the the new UI fitting that was posted here: #💖future-content-blog message

I think the issue is still having silver frame/background for the talents itself that makes it feel out of place

[elfin cape]

When you are ready to dump all candies on gmush, I guess

[dapper prism]

You use balloons and whale minigame quest to get to easy lvl 10-15+ balloons even higher.

[paper nova]

yee that 2nd part was a joke because fishing takes so long to lvl :/

[vagrant mountain]

yeah all the buttons are the same, he just slapped on a new interface background , might not be final version

[elfin cape]

New island makes fishing go zoom

[paper nova]

It does? which one?

[elfin cape]

Seasalt

[paper nova]

I got the stamp from trash island today and couldn't afford it if i wanted to 😂

is that the best one after shimmer is unlocked?
Trash > Shimmer > seasalt > fractal > giant?

[dapper prism]

Damn islands..

https://i.imgur.com/PTwbeUH.png

I got 6x bottles today

If i get 6 again tomorrow ill have to wait another day 😦

[vagrant mountain]

really?

[dapper prism]

At ~7 sometimes i get 6 sometimes 7, dont think i've seen an 8

[vagrant mountain]

ive been getting like 9 a day lol

i thought it was the 7 + 20%

[dapper prism]

Dont have +20% bottles yet

[vagrant mountain]

from shop?

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/B3Qzabf.png

[vagrant mountain]

gem shop i mean

[dapper prism]

Oh, i do have that bundle but nope, still usually get 6's and 7's

[vagrant mountain]

dang maybe game just hates you

[dapper prism]

isnt that 30% already calculated into the "average" display?

[vagrant mountain]

"this guy is progressing too fast we need to break his kneecaps"

no clue tbh

[sacred monolith]

I should have seasalt tomorrow

[dapper prism]

I was very lucky with artifacts, so he obviously had to nerf my bottles

115 days from unlocking w5 to having all eldritch. Meanwhile people are stuck 2+ months on a single eldritch

Yeh

[vagrant mountain]

thats why your nug is shit

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/mPGAT5K.png

Looks amazing

[dapper prism]

Wow wow wow...

https://tenor.com/view/owen-wilson-wow-marley-and-me-smooth-hd-hq-gif-25544466

[devout warren]

What are those?

[dapper prism]

Leave my nugget alone..

It's trying, okay? 😦

[vagrant mountain]

sorry that was a low blow

[devout warren]

What are those talents???

[dapper prism]

It's an unreleased star talent 🤷

[devout warren]

I don't have any of them

[dapper prism]

any of those star talents?!

[devout warren]

Yes

[dapper prism]

Go back to W1

[devout warren]

Am i supposed to have them?

[misty spindle]

I wish I could use candy in w5 so much

[dapper prism]

Definetely should get 3rd and 4th

[willow drum]

top row is from library star talents in w3, spice is w4 merit, stats is w5 merit

[devout warren]

Do they boost damage?

[dapper prism]

Money

[willow drum]

oh and dungeon

[dapper prism]

4th is Crit chance

1-2 are meh
3-4 are money
5 is crit chance
lowest row is auto collect spice and All stats

[dapper prism]

feel like i can remove this by now
https://i.imgur.com/ERwU10P.png

https://i.imgur.com/OhhbelZ.png

[vagrant mountain]

this one is the best one

[dapper prism]

It's still 2 huge %'s though

With big pool you mean group 7 i assume?

[devout warren]

Interesting one

If i unlock on 1 char does it unlock for all?

Good

[dapper prism]

FK... when you turn on 10h prayer and forget to login in the morning
https://i.imgur.com/1nJ5zy3.png

[misty spindle]

bro how do you not know that

its like the second thing you learn xd

[dapper prism]

Star talents are account wide..

[barren otter]

i collected 34 hrs in the rift on my BB this morning only to realize it had unending on

[dapper prism]

That's... pain

[barren otter]

yea im dumb

[dapper prism]

Give me nugget now?

[barren otter]

19k nug check?

[vagrant mountain]

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/not-quite-yet-enough-well-exactly-raphael-chestang-gif-12711794

But soon...

Maybe

[devout warren]

I have 800 nugget ✅

[signal osprey]

I actually got a new nugget

[dapper prism]

my nugget went 13k to 15k to 17k (with several 10k rolls in between by now)...

[barren otter]

surely by the time i finish my t6 evos ill get a higher nug right???

[signal osprey]

I think it was sometime last night but I didn't actually see it so I don't know how long it was there

I just noticed the number was bigger today lol

[barren otter]

show nug?

[signal osprey]

38k to 58k

[barren otter]

damn that could be me

i have a 38k nug

[paper nova]

is anyone in the game close to accidentally unlocking 11th and 12th characters?

[signal osprey]

Sounds pretty

Have a nug upgrade for one day and its already gone to my head

[dapper prism]

Hey, is this a good nugget? 👀 ||Not mine lol||
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738868424813445172/1133422561401765949/image.png

[vagrant mountain]

close as in 20 years yes

[paper nova]

ya not too far

[vale wadi]

What i ceasiest way to get pet higher fighting power?

[zealous niche]

Some people are in the 5000 total level range, haven’t seen any in the 6000’s yet

[dapper prism]

fighting power?

[signal osprey]

20 years is pretty optimistic

[zealous niche]

Level breeding, BM talent

Better egg quality

[vagrant mountain]

doable if you grind bubo and only level up grindtime

[vale wadi]

Isnt dma working too or only breeding odds?

[signal osprey]

I honestly don't think it is

Level scaling gets out of hand very quickly

[vagrant mountain]

only one way to find out

see you in 20 years

[signal osprey]

Sounds like too much bubo

Gonna pass on that one

[barren otter]

yea my DK gets better money/hour

why play bubo

[torn lagoon]

Is there anything in particular I should be leveling in gaming after I unlocked Kitsune? Just anything until I get the next plant? (at voraci) Or dump it all in to shovel and pray to the nugget gods

[signal osprey]

I make no money per hour currently doing sand pots

[vagrant mountain]

imagine you level up grind time 100 times a day on average for 365 days, your grindtime would be 36500, thats like 100x more exp per year

[signal osprey]

Almost have enough glass for 124 Mason jar though

[dapper prism]

Probably better than my Active BM at wurms

[barren otter]

youll get to a point where even getting 50 lvls of grind time in a day is hard

and thatll happen way sooner than 10k family lvls

[dapper prism]

35% left for me 😄
https://i.imgur.com/ygawA0Q.png

[signal osprey]

I got to about 390 just pushing BM through W5

[vagrant mountain]

i like to fantasize

[signal osprey]

Then just a few days at wurms for 425

[vagrant mountain]

mostly about barold

[signal osprey]

I've been buying lots of pearls from kilroy

Gonna buy my way to 5k family

[barren otter]

one day itll be 450

[vagrant mountain]

dont they give like 5% exp at level 450

[dapper prism]

Is there a chart or anything on XP gained per white pearl at certain levels?

[signal osprey]

10% of a level at all levels

[dapper prism]

Oh i thought they scaled (down)

[vagrant mountain]

same

[dapper prism]

but yeh my bubo did get ~10% at 499

[signal osprey]

They did originally but they got buffed a little while ago

[vagrant mountain]

i swear i used em when i started at level 70 for like 20% each

interesting

[signal osprey]

Soon

[sacred monolith]

Is there any limit to the number of bubbles you can keep unlocking?

[signal osprey]

Not really soon though because I'm not actually trying to level him at all

[dapper prism]

doesnt seem worth it on BM to me

[signal osprey]

He got his neck already hes fine

[barren otter]

but how else are you going to put your divine trophy on it

[signal osprey]

Imagine having a spare divine trophy to put on a BM

[vagrant mountain]

my bm's endgame gear

[barren otter]

i have 5 now...

[vagrant mountain]

must be nice

[signal osprey]

[vagrant mountain]

i farmed 3k keys and i got the cape just to find out i didnt have the quest

[signal osprey]

I got my trophy and left

[barren otter]

think im closing in on 80k total keys

[vagrant mountain]

dang

[clear quartz]

i need to go back and do some troll key farming at some point still, before i start that whole funfest lol

[vagrant mountain]

just use candies on w4 keys

or colo

[foggy lark]

I sometimes notice that after checking my characters and still being active on 1. i go back to switch to another toon and find they are more then 1 hour ahead then they should be! anyone have this happen?

[clear quartz]

yeah was thinking colo, although sort of also wanted to do w2 colo for kebabs, but the resource drops i guess make that one tricky

[lapis mesa]

question for all you super gamers. is there a good goal number on statues? i just hit GT 2k and well im tired of buboin. i know statues are a good boost but other than just A LOT, not sure of a goal to set for myself

[signal osprey]

Statues are forever

[dapper prism]

10x W4 colo (60 tickets) + stats:
https://i.imgur.com/zYPqGnD.png

Very easy keys compared to farming

but if you need stilted cards, may as well camp ES there for a night or two

[haughty cove]

ok so i didn't expected to be wooden stick my first mob to reach 100m kills

[signal osprey]

Just make your goal to be 100m kills on DK orb and however many statues you get in that time is good enough... probably

[dapper prism]

Lol why? also get everything to 5m first please...

You're so close to most of those thigns to 5m, which will give you more MK/tier which helps hit those 100m's

[haughty cove]

5mil kill is important?

[vagrant mountain]

how close are you to 100m

[clear quartz]

oh right, stilted card still needs a bit more work

[signal osprey]

Not even close at all

I'm a filthy casual

[vagrant mountain]

heh

10m?

[haughty cove]

i can get all mobs 5mil kill easily but im just to lazy

[haughty cove]

wooden circles

[dapper prism]

You can see on the right side of your screenshot, instead of 5 mk/tier you get 7mk/tier, stacking all that from all those mobs would help a ton

[haughty cove]

mhm

i well work on it when time comes

[dapper prism]

Also doing it in order of highest kph to lowest would also help. Like doing frogs and beans early on and something likke wood mushrooms last.

[haughty cove]

i get like 700k kph for frogs and so on

[vagrant mountain]

me and my homies hate wood mushrooms

[haughty cove]

getting 5mil isn't hard honestly

but im to lazy

[signal osprey]

I'm disappointed that your beans arent 1b

[vagrant mountain]

dont look >_<

[haughty cove]

and i have so much time candy saved

[signal osprey]

The wood shrooms are excusable

[haughty cove]

almost 1k hour

[signal osprey]

But the poor neglected beans

[dapper prism]

that gmush is lower than expected o.o

[vagrant mountain]

i only farm them on DK

[signal osprey]

Same I did my whole eclipse on DK

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i need more kph

[signal osprey]

And I'm currently at 700m on my sand pot eclipse with just DK too

[dapper prism]

Dooter just camp like 8/10 chars for about 10h in each spot and you'll hit a bil 😄

[gray sail]

where is the constellation for maccies

[haughty cove]

fair enough

[vagrant mountain]

i get like 20-30m/hr on 8 chars

[haughty cove]

but even with doot i need to unlock all the gods first

[vagrant mountain]

i think i need more afk gains

need divine scarf on everyone

[dapper prism]

I'm wondering if i should eclipse my other stuff...
https://i.imgur.com/sMVrc8B.png

[misty spindle]

Dude I have 424 boosted dungeon runs no way im ever using them all

[haughty cove]

divine scarf?

whats that?

[dapper prism]

Kruk boss stuff

[haughty cove]

ah w5

kk

[dapper prism]

Best AFK gain necklace

[haughty cove]

yah true

[haughty cove]

but haed to get

impossible for me to get

[dapper prism]

Chip doubler op for divine scarf

[vagrant mountain]

i need more dmg on my vman

[dapper prism]

Bubbbless

[vagrant mountain]

kinda just waiting for daily atoms

[dapper prism]

I've been so lazy on vman prints.. should really do more for vials :/

[dapper prism]

lowest skill on vman?

[vagrant mountain]

i think 82 catching

[zealous helm]

Is there a list of importance for stamps to level with cost reductions?

[vagrant mountain]

hes working on scarab cards rn i think

[dapper prism]

Multitool is important.
Other stuff without stacked reduction is probably things from Misc, Gold food, crystalline, mason jar, Potion stamp a bit?

Damn thats a high gmush..

[vagrant mountain]

https://gwuam.idleonefficiency.com/

here is my IE if you would like to have a look
any tips for improving vman damage is appreciated

[dapper prism]

Excuse me,.. what is this madness? Explain yourself right now!
https://i.imgur.com/phdT0A3.png

[signal osprey]

There shouldn't be a cap on respawn as far as I'm aware

[vagrant mountain]

uhhh stacking them for bigger orb??

[dapper prism]

bigger orb?, for a single extra miniboss?

[vagrant mountain]

im lazy

is the truth

[signal osprey]

Every map has a kill cap which is based on the map size, number of mobs, and their health

[dapper prism]

At this point wait for tomorrows slush xD

[signal osprey]

You reach that cap with damage, move speed, attack speed, and having talents on your bar

Once you reach the cap mob respawn is able to increase it

[dapper prism]

Found the issue... you havn't leveled your Vial to level 13 yet... pfff
https://i.imgur.com/1TqZvfr.png

[vagrant mountain]

[signal osprey]

So technically I guess there's a soft cap where you have so much respawn that your character isn't fast enough or doesn't do enough damage to utilize it anymore

But I don't think there's a hard cap to respawn

[zealous helm]

@dapper prism Do blue coins overflow once you get over 100?

[signal osprey]

Yeah thats possible too although I'm pretty sure if you got the 20% chains from the shop they're still better than afk

Just because respawn is so strong

[dapper prism]

Yes, if you have 101 blue you would see 1 blue in your bag. IE/IT will show how much yhou actually own

[zealous helm]

But it won't just reset it to 1 right?

[signal osprey]

Thats what I do

[zealous helm]

it'll keep climbing

[vagrant mountain]

yeah theres no money cap

[opaque sun]

there is no cap with respawn, but the more total respawn you have, each % respawn will feel less effective in relative to your current

[zealous helm]

Oh okay.

[vagrant mountain]

when you get 101 blue, it will show as 10 blue 1 red

[dapper prism]

Most your bubbles are way higher than mine.. your bubble 1 is 2x mine xD
But most my w5 bubbles are +50-100% of yours.
Your larry is a disappointment to our families. (yes my family is involved too now!) Get that to 501+ asap. Or even 1.1k

[vagrant mountain]

i was just recently able to atom it larry heh

[signal osprey]

1100 is the only answer

[vagrant mountain]

hmm so focus w5 bubbles?

[dapper prism]

I went for 1100 right away

[signal osprey]

500 and 700 are what you go to if you're a quitter

[fast grail]

1100, then forget about it unitl you can hourly click it

[dapper prism]

but doing 115% now (2300 soon)

[signal osprey]

Yeah after 1100 you can just print Larry

[dapper prism]

Ew hourly clicks

[fast grail]

95%

[signal osprey]

1200 levels worth of atoms will take months to pay itself off

[dapper prism]

Idk, i get more atoms than i can spend a day

[fast grail]

Actually, FMJ

[dapper prism]

Rather get the extra larry now to benefit on all future bubble upgrades

[vagrant mountain]

i get JUST enough

[signal osprey]

What i mean is it will take you months to get back the 1200 levels that you could have spent elsewhere from the extra 5%

[brazen cliff]

So my 139 Larry is wildly underleveled?

[signal osprey]

Correct

[dapper prism]

True, and still benefit from it

More atoms won't do very much for me right now.
More dmg neither really..

So i may as well spend 10 days for that extra 5% right now

[signal osprey]

Sounds like you know what you need to do

[dapper prism]

Waiting for carpenter to get into atom-range

[signal osprey]

2300 for 115%

[dapper prism]

There are no "breakpoints" itself, just nice numbers

[signal osprey]

Once you hit 1100 I say just do other stuff and print for Larry

1900*

[vagrant mountain]

trickz, could you share your IE? i'd like to have a look at it if you dont mind

[signal osprey]

Oh wait thats purple 3

[dapper prism]

Yeh i did 1.1k first, then got wood bubbles up nicely. now i get more than enough atoms so i kinda focus on a bit more larry for ~ a week

[signal osprey]

I always mix these up. Yeah purple 2 is 950 for 95%

Purple 3 is 1900

[zealous helm]

what can I do to increase carry cap? I can only hold 1 mil bugs in a stack on my vman

Maxed bug bag

[signal osprey]

Rucksack prayer and all 3 carry cap starsigns

After that its carry cap stamps

[zealous helm]

ah prayers, right

[dapper prism]

mman talent level and star level

[signal osprey]

The talent only affects materials though not bugs

[zealous helm]

Yea I saw the vman talent and thought that. so prayers, star talent and stamps?

[dapper prism]

Oh i thought those were all

[signal osprey]

Yeah. After that it would be more catching levels

[zealous helm]

f

[signal osprey]

Skill levels increase the effect provided from stamps for that skill

I'm working on that now too going for 210 multitool

Its kind of pain

[zealous helm]

210 max?

[signal osprey]

For most players 200

210 requires a fairly significant investment

[fast grail]

200 was pretty easy, dreading eventually trying for 210

[signal osprey]

I'm at 116 Mason jar and 176 bugsack with 127 catching level

Still not done yet

[brazen cliff]

Whoa whoa whoa, I need 1.4m atoms for 1100 Larry? I'm just now barely getting 200m samples

[signal osprey]

Work on it over time

[zealous helm]

1.4 mil is a lot?

it's been like 4 days and I have 800k

[signal osprey]

I alternated between using atoms on Larry and using them on my stat bubbles when I was getting started

[zealous helm]

my highest sample is 313 mil

[signal osprey]

As long as you're using all your atom upgrades each day on something and slowly progressing Larry over time thats all that matters

[dapper prism]

Also remember if you upgrade your Extra atom attempts in atom collider, it resets your daily amount. So be sure to spend attempts, then upgrade atom collider, then spend again

[vagrant mountain]

is there such a thing as hourly clicking too much? feel like im gimping my atom production

[dapper prism]

Yes, if it burns you out or ruins the fun, dont hourly click.

I love min max, but i don't hourly click

[brazen cliff]

I really need to follow along Nocturne's sample guides

[tacit tulip]

right, I'm officially on holiday for two weeks

which means I need to open idleon on my laptop for the first time

Rip my card sets

[dapper prism]

Rip

Have fun though!

[signal osprey]

If atoms are your main concern I wouldn't worry about it. Atoms have an end point anyway and once you're there they do nothing

If you're willing to click then click

[vagrant mountain]

excellent lol

[signal osprey]

Only reason to not do hourly is if you can't or just don't enjoy it

[vagrant mountain]

im just thinking, i could be unlocking more daily atoms if i just straight printed oak and copper

[signal osprey]

I have max clicked every bubble i can for awhile now and I'm still close to done with all relevant collider bonuses

Sure I could have gotten there quicker

But then what

[vagrant mountain]

good point

[signal osprey]

Atoms do nothing at that point

[dapper prism]

Still easier than hourly clicks 😄

[signal osprey]

The only difference in the end point is how many bubbles you get along the way

[dapper prism]

Especially if you dont plan on doing them

[signal osprey]

And hourly clicks win in that regard

Atoms are cool but alch is still king

[tacit tulip]

interesting note, if you log in on a new device it resets the daily quest so you can't do it

[dapper prism]

Depends, we call it hourly clicks but if hourly clicks become daily clicks, may not be as worth it 😄

[signal osprey]

True. Its up to the individual what you can or are able to do

If you don't want to click then dont

Its a game after all

[vagrant mountain]

just employ little brother

[signal osprey]

I just mean there's no in game advantage to not clicking instead of clicking assuming you're willing and able to click

[vagrant mountain]

haha yeah thank you that was the initial question

im gonna get 1k stat bubble and then i can finally talk in #endgame-gen-chat

[signal osprey]

Its an incremental game. That slow steady grind is what its all about

[tacit tulip]

my goals for linear bubbles are 1k, and 90% for the log progression bubbles

[opaque sun]

Its always been like that as a lava’s countermeasure for cheesing daily things

[signal osprey]

The current end game gate keep is actually 1000 con level now

[tacit tulip]

yeah makes sense

it's only 2 boxes I aint gonna die

[opaque sun]

You can lose up to two full days by switching devices

[vagrant mountain]

damn i was so close

[signal osprey]

Me too

[vagrant mountain]

soon

[dapper prism]

speaking of con.. before going further than 1.1k larry i did atom Con Call me bob to 1k. How high would you overall suggest it's worth getting this up to?
https://i.imgur.com/YjEd3cC.png

[signal osprey]

There is no reason to ever stop

[tacit tulip]

bob bubble is the crazy endgamer bubble

you can never have too much

[signal osprey]

As it stands now my current plan is to atom bob until W6

No point in anything else

[dapper prism]

I mean for an early time atom

[vagrant mountain]

atom quick slap

[opaque sun]

get the other hardcap bubbles done to 90% before sinking all in bob (or slap)

[dapper prism]

which was slap again?

[signal osprey]

I did 2k bob early on before going for full 95% on everything

[opaque sun]

Slap is green base damage

[dapper prism]

Ah right

[tacit tulip]

you can hourly click the mana version of that bubble if that's your thing

(or just atom slap)

[dapper prism]

So something like this:
90% sample bubbles mainly wood+mine (whatever on bugs)
2k Bob
1k+ Slap?
95% sample?
More bob+slap

[vagrant mountain]

lvl 200 quick slap > lvl 1000 purple base dmg bubble

[tacit tulip]

it's not about the comparison, it's about not using atoms on bob

[vagrant mountain]

might be a little exaggeratd

and thats true

can hourly click

[dapper prism]

How high for cooking?
https://i.imgur.com/HIOeYdI.png

(early on)

[vagrant mountain]

"early on"

[tacit tulip]

I did atom slap a bit to give vman the damage to kill kattle

[dapper prism]

well once in atom range, that's not even half a day of atom attempts..

[vagrant mountain]

fair enough

probably go for 75% / 90%?

hardcap is 1.3x

[dapper prism]

oh 95% is only 247 (for chef)

Like barely 1 day of atoms again

[signal osprey]

760 for 80% 1150 for 85%

Dchef works a little different than other bubbles

[vagrant mountain]

dang

[signal osprey]

Each increase to the bubble is actually applied 57 times so its a lot more impactful

[dapper prism]

oh what, sounds pricey

So to what do you recommend i get dchef if im not really worried about my samples right now nor dmg?

[signal osprey]

The left is the % of the bubbles value and the right is the % of the max possible effect you can get when you factor in the ^57 part

[zealous helm]

used two months of candy to get shards for jar stamp

Can't complain

[dapper prism]

Wtf, such a waste o.o

[vagrant mountain]

lol

[zealous helm]

idc

[vagrant mountain]

fair enough

you are probably going to be farming sandy pots for statues anyways

is why he said it was a waste

[zealous helm]

It's more common to find something I CAN'T use these candys on nowadays

[rotund smelt]

Anyone have a screenshot on hand for what obols should look like for maximizing dr?

[dapper prism]

Pop from giga for all circles in silver.
Rest is dice (from pots if u need glass for stamp, else better snelbie if u need cards)

Pop grind with ES, Dice with DK

[signal osprey]

Personally I didnt even bother with dchef at all until I was ready to do a big cooking push with a ton of ladles.

[rotund smelt]

Ah k ty

[tacit tulip]

Hyper DR can replace pops, and the event drop rate obol can replace the square dice too

if you get any

[vagrant mountain]

got dreadlo tools for everyone? pearler shells are good to candy

[tacit tulip]

w4 splicers for all

[dapper prism]

Mhm, wondering how worth it will be. My first few meals are 59. Last few are 48ish. Times are getting pretty rough

[signal osprey]

Who needs candy when orb go brrr

[zealous helm]

@vagrant mountain I don't but I have 2000 pearlers on hand atm

[dapper prism]

All base skills level 100? 😄 (working on catching atm but might stop at 90 on all)
https://i.imgur.com/VmLpY9M.png

[vagrant mountain]

is that your vman?

[dapper prism]

You see the icon top left?

[prisma drift]

Do I go for 115% or nah

[vagrant mountain]

im an idiot

[dapper prism]

First stop is 1100, then catch up on other bubbles

[signal osprey]

Its a fairly significant boost. I'd say 760 is a good place to go as far as not eating up too many days of clicks while also giving a decent % of the effect but anything is better than nothing

[prisma drift]

What bubbles should I atom

[signal osprey]

Be a giga chad bob enjoyer

[dapper prism]

Here's vman. focusing on 121 Wood so i can get my mages to 120 wood.
https://i.imgur.com/PzU3BRi.png

[prisma drift]

Should I become a disciple of pancake

[vagrant mountain]

dang

[dapper prism]

okay, ill add that to my to-do 🙂

[vagrant mountain]

are you going for 1k totals for skill mastery?

[dapper prism]

Easy when wood gives 2b+ xp/h

[prisma drift]

Follow the path of construction

[signal osprey]

Con is the one true endgame

A sacred place where not even doot can interfere

[prisma drift]

I shall atom my bob to 10k

I must become like pancake

[vagrant mountain]

who is pancake

[signal osprey]

I'm on my way to 10k as well

[dapper prism]

Not fully, but it's a nice side goal i guess.

All my skills were like 65's 2 days ago.. All ym wood, mine 65/70 just to equip Dreadlo tools. Either contract or topbird told me skill levels affect samples a bunch. And after doing a direct comparison from like 65 to lvl 100, it was a decent jump in sample.

Next goal was dreadlo all. Now just extra levels for a day or two while BM was going for 450 active

[prisma drift]

God of construction

[signal osprey]

My current goal is to just atom bob until W6. Nothing else

I've already wasted enough time on sampling bubbles and stuff

[vagrant mountain]

my current goal is larry 500

[dapper prism]

501

[prisma drift]

Man that much xp is like 100 levels for me

[zealous helm]

Picked up all the sand finally

[dapper prism]

Next atom cyclke and its all gone xD

[signal osprey]

I am proud to say that my active DK would only level up 4 times from that exp

[vagrant mountain]

i need even numbers

[prisma drift]

In one hour

[signal osprey]

500 is bugged though for larry

[dapper prism]

Larry has to be 501. at 500 even though 100% +2 you can still roll on +1. has to be 501 to be 100% +2's

[vagrant mountain]

😱

looks like im going to 600

[dapper prism]

Then just go for 1100, for 110%

[prisma drift]

Join me at 1100

[dapper prism]

nice to have an extra 10% for +3

[prisma drift]

Big Larry gaming for the hourly clicks

[vagrant mountain]

i just cant have 501

[signal osprey]

If you do 600 might as well go for 700 for the even 5% chance

Although 1100 is the true correct choice

[vagrant mountain]

damn

only cuz contract says its the tru tru tho

i wil go for 1100

[signal osprey]

After that you print dementia like the filthy clicker you are

[vagrant mountain]

amen

[signal osprey]

Its okay I am too

[prisma drift]

Ain’t no way I’m hourly clicking dem

[signal osprey]

Mines every other hour right now

But thats good enough for me

[prisma drift]

Mine would be like twice a day

I still use a void pick

[vagrant mountain]

dreadlo worth it

[signal osprey]

Oof. Getting those tool upgrades is a pretty big boost

[vagrant mountain]

i think its 2 speeds faster

[barren otter]

damn

wish i was as cool as contract

[signal osprey]

Speaking of speed I finally got my vman to 62 chopping speed off of just crafted food

Feasty statues

[vagrant mountain]

lmao what did it take like 900% food effect

[tacit tulip]

the power of beans

[dapper prism]

Speaking of statues

Any ideas on onyx benefit?

[tacit tulip]

There's been plenty of joke suggestions

but nothing outright

I reckon % buff for every 100 total statue levels

and rift 51

[vagrant mountain]

i wanna say its either a multiplier or some sort of utility buff

[opaque sun]

“Counts total levels of all statues as the effective level of the onyx”

[signal osprey]

No it only took 873%

[vagrant mountain]

dang

[dapper prism]

The buff per 100 levels does sound like a Lava thing

[tacit tulip]

It fits what we've seen with the existing masteries too

[signal osprey]

I was gonna go for 250 feasty as a decent resting place

Dont make me do 300

Because I will

[vagrant mountain]

i think you would do 300 regardless

you dirty statue lover

[signal osprey]

How can you not love them

They give big gains

[vagrant mountain]

yeah hehe

tbh i would be at beans 24/7 pretty much if stamps didnt cost money

[signal osprey]

I'm over here counting the days until I'm done with this list of shit I want to do

Once theres nothing left its just beans until W6

Beans and bob

[vagrant mountain]

sounds romantic

[signal osprey]

After I finish sand pots eclipse I'll have enough glass for 124 mason jar so that will be two more things off the list

[zealous helm]

help?

[signal osprey]

That stamp is very expensive

[dapper prism]

Its probably 117 or 217 etc money

use IE/IT to check

[zealous helm]

jesus christ boys

[signal osprey]

It only gets better

[vagrant mountain]

that one is refinery stamp's little brother

[zealous helm]

sheeeeesh

[signal osprey]

True the refinery stamp is wild

Soon

[vagrant mountain]

the tier 2 chopping and mining ones are kinda gross too

[signal osprey]

I think I'm almost done with the chopping one

I know I had it pushed as far as I could with just gilds alone. Pretty sure I can get 2 more upgrades after that with hydrogen

[vagrant mountain]

i guess that one technically caps

[stuck elbow]

anybody get their ships to 100mil without speed on a captain yet? 😮

[vagrant mountain]

because its gated by bag size

def not me

[green eagle]

are the star talents in #💖future-content-blog the ones from the new books on islands?

[opaque sun]

My first ship is like 100m

[vagrant mountain]

my first ship is 90m with 700% speed captain

[dapper prism]

First boat should be easy
https://i.imgur.com/UM6kpMJ.png

[opaque sun]

Other ships are around 25m-50m

[signal osprey]

No those have been in the game files for awhile but never released

[green eagle]

i don't even care enough to get it to 100m, would be very easy however

[stuck elbow]

yeah, not including first boat. my first is already over 100m, what i meant is all boats

[signal osprey]

He's just showing us the UI in that pic

[green eagle]

ah was just curious, i know i had seen them before, just was curious if he finally released them

[stuck elbow]

just trying to get all mine to 100m for satisfaction's sake 😄

[opaque sun]

getting them to 50m is the first goal

So that i can start min maxing to fire speed captains

Like 10 guys of loot specialitsts, and 10 other guys with artifact chance to prepare for future eldritch+ artifacts

[odd cobalt]

gaming

[green eagle]

i've finally started to all in on finishing my obols to round out my available S L A B spots, feels good

[fading cape]

I'm sure I'm late to the game. But DK is insane for these events

[green eagle]

it's too bad their bonuses are meh

[tacit tulip]

don't forget to aim for about 60m speed - which is needed for 100m min time

[green eagle]

the summer spirit and coastiolyte ones are ones i want and can't get to drop for anything

[opaque sun]

aiming for min time after getting them to 50m first

[clear quartz]

is the glass shard stamp about it for increasing food capacity?

[vagrant mountain]

yeah

that and ruck sack are the big ones

not a lot of food cap bonuses

oh yeah and star signs

[clear quartz]

oh right star sign

[twilit goblet]

how do you guys get your boats to 50m on avg? my first boat is still 40m after captain

the rest of the boats, wayy slower at like 5m max

[dapper prism]

There's a lot that add for sailing speed

Once i was done with artis, i backtracked, kept my 8x 100m boats on last island, and the other 12 boats went island to island to get everyones loot and speed up a bit

[twilit goblet]

backtrack and keep farming loot?

[dapper prism]

When stuff is that damn cheap, yes

[twilit goblet]

maybe my loot value is too low too since it takes a bit to upgrade, ill try bringing them back then

so no way around the loop of getting back to prev islads and farm their mats

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/JAYrBut.png

Those are my costs

but as said, i started that once i was done with my artis

[twilit goblet]

i need one more island unlock , with my 90m boat currently

were you done when u had all base or all eldritch?

[dapper prism]

All eld.

Always keep your fastest boat(s) on the last island(s)

[twilit goblet]

oh did u put multiple boats onto the last few islands?

[dapper prism]

Never send all boats from left to right or you bottleneck yourself..

[twilit goblet]

i can either just keep doing eldritch for the mid ranged islands, while 1 boat can go to last islands, or just go back and farm speed so more can get to where they need to be

[dapper prism]

Else you'll be stuck with having all lower elds and half your boats cant reach end islands

[twilit goblet]

lmao

yea im there now

only 1 boat can reach last 3 islands

then a few could do steak and the rest is too slow

[dapper prism]

Also might help removing every captain once

From every boat

then use IE to match speed with proper boats to hit a 90-100m speed on multiple

[twilit goblet]

yea im going to do that, and just focus on speed + speed i think

[dapper prism]

No point having a 300% captain on a 10m boat if you could have it on a 30m captain and hit the last island instead

[twilit goblet]

my fastest one that i just fixed did hit 90m so thats my peak speed

[dapper prism]

You only need like 5-10 speed captains if at all. think i have 7

My stuff atm:
https://i.imgur.com/FEWWfPJ.png

[fathom lagoon]

What is lava teasing in that latest pic, star talent lvls?

[dapper prism]

I did replace some after i was done with artis

[dapper prism]

UI

[twilit goblet]

niceee, i gotta pair them nowwith speed

[fathom lagoon]

Ah tru

[dapper prism]

Although star talent could be a thing too 👀

[kind epoch]

I'm much earlier in sailing that that, just hitting 1m with first boat; dyou recommend keeping loot leveled roughly in line with speed for boats, or do it later?

[twilit goblet]

how do you guys knowwhich capt is which lmao

i focused on reaching islands first then raise loot in order to get more per trip to further upgrade boats

[kind epoch]

I've been prioritizing the speed levels over loot so far, about one milestone difference between them

[dapper prism]

Click on the charter map again, and enable identity

https://i.imgur.com/adM7nRY.png

[twilit goblet]

nicee tq

[dapper prism]

Also if you open/close gemshop it reorganizes ships by number

Sadly cant show all boats at once on the dock

[pulsar cliff]

What's the least amount of time away to proc AFK gains?

[dapper prism]

2mins for any procs

[pulsar cliff]

That's what I reckoned, thanks

[dapper prism]

Keep in mind, thats 121 seconds, not 120s

Since for some reason display shows 1min 60s before it hits 2mins after that

[pulsar cliff]

Who knowssss.

Thanks man

[dapper prism]

2min claims are also great for your archers (sb gmush grind) for mass producing bars

[golden cipher]

where can I find the best spot for every fish about sampling?

[dapper prism]

Tons of sample help stuff here with all that info:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

else:
https://i.imgur.com/OOecnbE.png

[golden cipher]

My hero ❤️

[pulsar cliff]

That's what I was thinking - I want to go finish off at LEAST copper bars

Carpenter shooooould be atomable tomorrow.

[dapper prism]

Yeh then best toss all 3 archers to gmush or something. Make sure you maximize forge cap (w5 achievement 5m citringes for +50%) then login to each every 2mins

=============
YAYYYY 450 🥳
https://i.imgur.com/RRace50.png

Took longer than expected... 2ish days from mid 430's...

[modern plaza]

active?

[dapper prism]

yeh

Active was over 20x faster xp than afk info (when i did my calculations)

[modern plaza]

some good incubation procs too?

[dapper prism]

Meh, havnt been touching breeding much. Nothing for me to do there really

I should probably get some quick DNA for this last one xD
https://i.imgur.com/plMyOJJ.png

[fast grail]

Never realised until now, but is the money /hr shown in afk info just completely incorrect?

[modern plaza]

you got maxed out spice collectors basically? guessing that’s all to do now and shiny pet optimization

[dapper prism]

Nawh spices are behind in power. That's the next thing i'll do. Was mainly just rolling high rarity eggs on stilted seeker here (also using it for power for slot 1) but should definetely replace my 10k spice eggs sometime for kitchen upgrades

[devout warren]

What should be my breeding level at the end of w4?

[dapper prism]

Whatever really, You'll backtrack on it later on. Although having snelbie and all spices unlocked should be doable

[opaque sun]

its before applying drop rate if thats what you mean

[autumn wasp]

finally got chemical

[fast grail]

Ahhh, that makes sense then. Ty

[crisp silo]

Prob the quests done

Cause they give more bottle%

Also dont really see how to get 10% more bottle from single digit, so i guess it rolls between 2 numbers

Then it rounds based on that

4 trash is very annoying

[opaque sun]

yeah im 94 bottles. 1 short from 3rd island (seasalt)

[crisp silo]

Truly a lava rounding moment

Cant wait to get fishing mastery in a few days

[dapper prism]

Active skilling (although not very important) is still faster xp than inactive xp, right?

[crisp silo]

Idk about that chief

[flat wolf]

Any recommendations on Gaming? Been in W5 since release and buying MSA Mealing was rough

[crisp silo]

Get better rng

A few sacrifices would do the trick

[placid mural]

There is a range for daily bottles

I have gotten as low as six and as high as nine in one day with the same percentage boosts

[crisp silo]

Dang that ~7 isnt really about 7

[dapper prism]

For me it says ~7 i do have the bundle but always get 6 or 7, neve r8

[crisp silo]

Same

[dapper prism]

Yesterday i was 13 away from new island, i got 6 today, so if i dont get 7 tomorrow ill have to wait another day -,-

[flat wolf]

Noted

[pearl cedar]

Same happened to me had 89 and got a 5 proc

[hexed crescent]

Soo, on Shimmer Island, if I click the claim thing before I hit the dummy, I don't get anything for this rotation?

[crisp silo]

Prob

[hexed crescent]

That's a bummer

[pearl cedar]

Is your rotation dps on dummy?

[hexed crescent]

Yeah