lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[rustic garnet]

what setup do you open your blueberries in?

card drops in doublers?

[signal osprey]

DK on high orb count map

[rustic garnet]

ahhhh ok

I need to do that instead

[glad crow]

nah i didnt change anything because skill issue

[signal osprey]

Yeah I just open them in my current setup because I'm DK farming anyway

But orb gives a huge boost to card drops

[gentle anchor]

whats skill prowess?

[rustic garnet]

right

I'll need to do that

I've been focusing on ES for 1bill stacks for vials

[little harbor]

I think i am doing ships all wrong. im keeping everyone sailing to the furthest island they can reach in the minimum travel time. so my last boats are basically useless. Should i be sending them out further even though the trip takes over the 2h minimum?

[rustic garnet]

my opinion here zmakqo

[vocal ibex]

Are these new bosses?

[rustic garnet]

send these ships to the islands that upgrade themselves

[signal osprey]

Prowess is kind of like multikill but for skilling. If you get enough efficiency past 100% chance to collect a resource you get bonus resources

[signal osprey]

Those are the mobs from the event. You open the oysters and it spawns them

[rustic garnet]

and then leave them there for as long as you bothered to do so

I'd get a few levels in them instead of doing 2 hours all the time

[vocal ibex]

Where I get oysters

[rustic garnet]

honestly, I'd try to keep most at under 4 or 6 hours

[signal osprey]

The daily quest in W1 town gives some and you have a chance to drop some from opening coolers

[rustic garnet]

but you can't always do that

[vocal ibex]

Mm I gotta go look at these Oysters

[little harbor]

so dont worry about idleonefficiency telling me the trip is too long? just go 4-6?

[rustic garnet]

yes

it's just giving you a a 'perfection recommendation'

having your ships on zero upgrades is absolutely stupid, no matter what the '2 hour guide' is here

it's an aim, not a hard and fast

[dense cargo]

This divinity grind is killing me. Is it still the best thing to do now? https://abberline.idleonefficiency.com/

[little harbor]

great, thanks for the explanation

[rustic garnet]

you want ships on 2 hour trips because it's efficient over longer trips, but if you have 0 upgrade boats, that's incredibly worse

[little harbor]

i just had them doing closer islands hoping for ancient artifacts

[rustic garnet]

there is a lot left out in between '2 hour trips best'

yeah that's fine too

[elfin idol]

You could finish your key quests at least, and minibosses and books

[rustic garnet]

but send SOMETHING to the further islands to upgrade them

you probably have a speedy boat that can go further than the rest

[vocal ibex]

Thanks for info

I'm using this okay for event ? I want some cards. My first event of these.

Not sure if drop rate only is better

Ya the experts here.

Another question should I do the daily quest from the umbrella guy in world 1 with a specific character ? Or try to do it with a few characters for better drops.

[signal osprey]

Quest can be done on anyone and yeah I would run crystal chance when using oysters

The cards are affected by DK orb so you want to stack the orb as high as possible and crystals will help with that

[vocal ibex]

Okay ao I've never really understood orb stuff

U have a link or video ?

ZD

[viral snow]

Orb make DR go vroom

[obsidian nacelle]

finally can play the gme within the game within the game

[vocal ibex]

Just saw a video on it. So I'm assuming you get a good orb kill count and then maybe halfway or 3 quarts of the way before it ends you pull out all the oysters ?

[elfin idol]

Feel like im miles from seeing a green square

[signal osprey]

Orb is a little unintuitive. Basically the way it works is every 1 orb kill gives a 1% chance for a mob kill to count as an additional kill so if you have hundreds of kills it would be like killing a mob multiple times for the purpose of drops

So simply put yes pick q good orb map like wurms or OJ and the stack the orb up until your time is almost up and then use oysters

[vocal ibex]

Fuck yeah okay I understand

Thank you helping me

[eager wraith]

Is worth throwing out my gold obols for frags so I can try to get more silver pop obols or save them for the achievement I need 2 more for achievement

[vocal ibex]

Next time I'm orange them I already opened on my bubble 🫧

[rustic garnet]

For the 90% cost reducers, what do people spend them on once basically everything is atom zoned?

[tacit tulip]

I basically just don't use them anymore

[signal osprey]

I still used them for awhile on bubbles I could cheaply make to force nblb to push carpenter

Things like anvil mats and souls that were ignored but are easier now after pushing hammer and getting species epoch from vman

After getting carpenter to atom though I don't think I've used anymore

[dense python]

kattlekruk hat or the w5 one just for damage

[signal osprey]

Magma gear is always better for damage alone

You use kruk when you want the respawn or drop rate

[dense python]

if i were to crystal farm rn

would i be using the kruk hat more then

[jolly quest]

so im almost done with w5 armors. should i use upgrade stones on them with my bubonic?

[signal osprey]

I run kruk helmet and boots with magma chest and legs for crystals

[dense python]

im in the right track then

[jolly quest]

or should i not upgrade them and wait for boss armors

[signal osprey]

You can use them now and buy more for when you upgrade.

[dense python]

damn i really should work on quick slab bubble to atomable upgrade soon

[grave pilot]

Hi, i just bought the Skelefish Stamp from the trash island but nothing drops and i dont get it in the MrPigibank, is this a bug ?? or i have to do something?

[pearl cedar]

Did you leave map right away?

Think it takes a couple seconds to drop

[grave pilot]

F, thanks anyway hahahah i just lose it then 😛

[devout warren]

Should i stop everything i'm doing and try to get voidwalker?

[fading dust]

Damn howd you get so many 5-stars so quickly

[tacit tulip]

lmao my partner was using the coolers, and she dropped a postoffice reset from the last one

[thin kernel]

the 5 star boost helps a bit ( from farming gems shop)

[tacit tulip]

she was holding down click and it auto used the reset

so now she has to place all her boxes

[dreamy spruce]

rip

[humble valve]

hey guys im trying to play on steam and its saying update the game though steam doesnt have a update?

[dreamy spruce]

did you restart steam?

[humble valve]

yes twice

[tacit tulip]

try using verify integrity of files

it forces a check against current version and updates if mismatch

[humble valve]

trying now

[humble valve]

worked tyvm

[vocal ibex]

@fading dust I'm daddyspendsalot why I have so many.

[gentle anchor]

does anyone wanne do king doot please

i just need to do him once

[vocal ibex]

U can do him solo with the megaphone thing

[gentle anchor]

i need to beat him first to get it

[vocal ibex]

Reallyyy

[feral hemlock]

Why not? He has some great bonuses

[gentle anchor]

ye its a 1/1 drop from him

[vocal ibex]

I'm in coin 8

[gentle anchor]

ok we need 1 more person than

[dreamy spruce]

try #party-finder-👪

[gentle anchor]

let me craft the spawn thing rq brb

[proud pumice]

is health snapshotting even worth it? i'm currently sampling and health snapshot gave me 2x health, but my samples only went from 1.32M without snap to 1.35M snapping

[gentle anchor]

@vocal ibex wya

[vocal ibex]

Nometokes

[gentle anchor]

ow ok

[vocal ibex]

Talk in game.we spamming people here

[pearl cedar]

It is usually maybe a 1-2% gain, I don't think it's worth it because it makes sampling painful, but can be nice when you're at like 99m and a 100m sample

[fading cape]

anyone know about how much damage on BB before they could auto W5 boss?

[fervent brook]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pepe-the-frog-sad-pepe-crying-tears-gif-7939264

[worn current]

whats the max level for shiny pets

[nimble yarrow]

you can't reroll trapping powers on obols can you?

[boreal cosmos]

what's the best way to farm monster rating for the cattleprod quest?

[empty berry]

what is better? farming the cape on normal w5 boss or on nightmare

[nimble yarrow]

you can only farm the cape on nightmare

[stiff prairie]

I think 6, not sure though

[nimble yarrow]

there isn't a max i believe

just at a certain point it takes so long to level

[acoustic solar]

Is this worth saving up for? will prolly take me about a couple days with doot

[pearl cedar]

Can confirm

[proud pumice]

fair enough. if the expected gain is 1-2%, i'm definitely not doing it lol i thought it was a lot more

[thin kernel]

well all of them is "good" somehow :=)

[fervent brook]

Now that I got Chemical what do I do now in gaming?

[vocal ibex]

These ok on DK for crystal farming for his orb ?

[odd stream]

It's worth it, gives about x2.5 multiplier if you're good at pong

[torpid oasis]

So how do i fix this bug again?

[boreal cosmos]

If IE says a stamp is unobtainable does that mean its not obtainable for ANYONE or i have to do something to be able to get it?

im on a stamp hunt today i really neglected them

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/b24d1674c97f4d235e586874bc24c4c5.png

is it me or is doot becoming incredibly common to see

[untold saffron]

not obtainable for anyone

[pale tusk]

The summer upgrade stones are not useful, if I already have W5 stones, right?

[boreal cosmos]

ty

Is there any way to get monster rating quickly for the cattleprod quest?

They seem to drop really rarely

[signal osprey]

The 4 new stamps from trash island say unobtainable I think

But aside from those yes the rest are truly unobtainable

[boreal cosmos]

kk 🙂

[granite grove]

only useful summer stones are tool ones, maybe just for early game ppl who want to milk extra defense stat

[boreal cosmos]

i really wanna try to get every stamp

[pale tusk]

Okay yeah, that's kinda how I felt with them as well

Wasn't sure if they have some kind of hidden use and wanted to be safe before deleting them

[granite grove]

save tool ones just in case if w6 has ridiculous defense requirements or whatnot

but then food exists sooo

[fallow pawn]

do construct obols work offline now?

[granite grove]

still keep them around tho, summer tool stones are one of good stones to stockpile

[pale tusk]

Yeah, ever since mid w3 or so, defense stopped to matter because the solution was either more alchemy or more food. My chars are in w5 with amorak armor and w2 stones

[steady beacon]

Is it normal that the shimmer trials scale really poorly? I seem to get the same reward wether I have 40k accuracy or 150k accuracy.

What are the cutoffs for better rewards?

[vocal ibex]

Sweet thank you for that information I was going to ask Ina while

About the accuracy stuff shimmers island

[zinc torrent]

so. how mucht GT is a good amount of GT?

[vocal ibex]

What's GT

[quiet pewter]

gran torismo

[dapper prism]

XP bubble alch, yellow

[vocal ibex]

The man the legend trickz Is here

[quiet pewter]

goats here too, jus sayin

[neat sentinel]

whats the quickest way to get black lenses?

[quiet pewter]

ES

[zinc torrent]

i think i need more GT

[vocal ibex]

Wow what lvl your character, over 9000?

[dapper prism]

GT is very easy to level, you can get over 1k+ bubble levels in it a day with active bubo CC

[gentle anchor]

do time candies work on anvil production?

[devout warren]

How often should i get better samples?

[gentle anchor]

wait rlly

i didnt know

[devout warren]

I haven't upgraded them in like a month. Should i wait 1 more week for Voidwalker or just print now?

[dapper prism]

Technically every 2ish weeks. will be pretty noticable. If you got/unlocked something big thats a game changer then you could do it sooner.

[quiet pewter]

often as you can be bothered, i do it every 2 weeks or so

[devout warren]

I can maybe 3x it if not more...

[quiet pewter]

if your activly improving alchmy is very likley you will outpace the bonus from letting it sit

[hidden sphinx]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[devout warren]

I improved everything by a lot

I will get new samples then

[dapper prism]

Dont follow the last two parts

Like, 100% dont make lustre

[quiet pewter]

reminder you can also get huge mat samples on vman during speedrun, by using his ability first

[devout warren]

Is chizoar gear better than lustre?

[hidden sphinx]

It was to work out the ring and necklace

[dapper prism]

well yeh.. one has DMG throughout all the bonuses and one def.. def won't do much at al

[untold saffron]

surprised noone has made a new one of these yet

[devout warren]

What do you mean speedrun?

[quiet pewter]

ok step 1) get a vman

[still delta]

I just finally got the red hat

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah, lustre is only useful for the boots (skilling boots) and slab

[dapper prism]

2x Emp rings, respawn necklace is useless if you dont reach the kill cap

[zinc torrent]

I just got to world 5 today I do about 1mil damage on all my characters with shrines without then I do about 500k-700k and I have all characters on divinety what would you guys recommend I do to progress the fastest through world 5? And the other worlds general progress

[hidden sphinx]

Well imma go overboard and get it for everyone lol

[devout warren]

Sailing is huge

[hidden sphinx]

196k flurbos

[untold saffron]

its so much nicer having emp rings for everyone

[dapper prism]

The only part vman will help with sample is the base stats on all chars tab 1.

[untold saffron]

but i use midnight rings on my SB's

[quiet pewter]

get sailing and div going, have a look back at the stuff you probably neglected in the earlier worlds

[devout warren]

Get DK upgrades for gaming on skilling tab, SB upgrades for sailing on skilling tab

[dapper prism]

Do divinity first, check pins.
All chars on div, except 1 that you can active on, good to backtrack some old content*
While doing divinity, be sure to check in on sailing and gaming.
If you only checkin like once a day, use SB tab 4, talent 11. If you check a few times a day, DONT.

Shrine stuff will work in w5 even if placed in w4 after you unlock some artifacts.
Sailing, stay on island 1 until you get tusk. Try and buy more boats/captains early on.
PS: W5 is a huge RNG fest.

[devout warren]

I've done thousands of sailing trips and i still don't have some basic artifacts

[dapper prism]

Because some artifacts are like a 1/4k

[quiet pewter]

to clarify, thats the only sampling bit he will help with, but he will have a massive effect on other things like cooking and trapping too, so def worth getting. what trinkz said is 100% accurate, just making sure it doesnt read like vman is bad

[dapper prism]

That's why u dont use SB talent, you spread out your golden hampters between all chars, and lvl alch bubble for extra sail claim. Plus PO box for both sail/gaming is nice

[gilded vault]

Same here, kind of lost faith in sailing after a bit 😜

[devout warren]

I'm still very far from vman. I probably can't get him in 1 week but i'll do my best.

Maybe with candy from event i can make it happen

[dapper prism]

Well yeh, but the question wasnt if vman was worth it, it was "i will get vman next week, should i sample now or after i get vman" and since vman doesn't help as much with sampling itself, especially if someone lacks talent pts. Then sample now. They will still get vman same fast.

[feral whale]

guys and girls after 200 round of pet arena its end or there more round?

[dapper prism]

It continues but no reward.

[vocal ibex]

I like fat girls too

[dapper prism]

When you hit 200+ make sure IE shows that you unlocked 200 reward. best to get to 202+ or so

[dapper prism]

For the 1m kill quest, make sure to chow BB unless he is really super mega bad for some reason xD

[feral whale]

if i switch tabs with arena my progress would be save for all rewards? because i think my squid just overimmortal now

[devout warren]

My maestro is level 80...

[untold saffron]

do you just put all your DNA into breeding xp after unlocking all pets?

[dapper prism]

Rough, for now until you get vman, try and be sure to place all XP traps on him. and when you do worship check IE and get the best XP per charge souls.
You want to always maximize XP on both of those

[devout warren]

What should i aim for in terms of weapon for Maestro?

Also should i push w4 or throw him in w5?

[dapper prism]

So many situational questions that are hard to tell..

[elfin idol]

no point pushing with him, he catches up to your best once hes vman

[dapper prism]

Unless they meant for xp which i assume because they are lvl 80 and want 150 for vman.*

[devout warren]

Yes my goal is level 150

[elfin idol]

Just gotta compare exp there then

[viral snow]

if you wanna reach 150 quick put him in w5 as far as he can survive
that should give you the best xp

[dapper prism]

Maximize Crystal chance and active XP (ignore the dr/gold cards here, could use dmg)
https://i.imgur.com/uI7PJD9.png

[vocal ibex]

Don't level toilet paper on the character I'm active with on the fighting build right ? I just realized it says for stamps - skill efeciency not all stamp efficiency

[viral snow]

just make sure he got enough food and is able to kill atleast some mobs afk

[dapper prism]

Yes you don't level it, because you dont skill on combat preset.

[devout warren]

So i should active farm? I can't

[viral snow]

even better if you can active him
than do what trickz says
I dont know anyone else that got his account up that quick

[dapper prism]

If you cant active him yet then yes, afk farm, different cards.

[barren lance]

whats the best map for W4 DNA?

[dapper prism]

Was it moustache or cryo? (not sure)

Technically whatever your highest kph map is afaik, also use low candies, big diminishing returns on long afk times for splicing

[gentle anchor]

i got my character meastro lets go

[vocal ibex]

Man that's a game charger

Thank u

[viral snow]

probably flombies or cans
as those usually had the highest kph i believe

[dapper prism]

Oh gosh im asleep, sorry i read w3 for some reasons

[quartz turtle]

do yall keep any of the old upgrade tokens ? am i being a hoarder?

[dapper prism]

Keep because u just constantly get them again anyways

[viral snow]

gotta use those w1 stones on magma gear

[dapper prism]

Btw try and buy* the w5 blue ones daily from the shop, especially the armor ones if you have money trouble.

[quartz turtle]

just upgraded nearly all classes*2 to magma and used most upgrade stones, thats why its so low 🙂 but thx for the recc

[dapper prism]

Statues from 8 hours of Beans:
1/30 Crystal, 18.62x DR
||https://i.imgur.com/qMhG1tM.png||

[quartz turtle]

im just afraid that it will get used as a way to upgrade stamps one day and ill be super sad

[viral snow]

only ones for stamps are 2 of the mystery upgrade stones i believe

but all those low tier stones are pretty easy to get now

i always have them filtered as they otherwise would flood my inventory

[dapper prism]

Greenstack

Huh, but they only use 1 slot per?

unless you have tiny bags or somehow reach 500k+ in a night

[viral snow]

yeh but there are 123123 quadrillion variants of upgrade slots

[vocal ibex]

U need one of the white ones for a quest or item creation I think

[potent gust]

Not the best but it's a low level Vman and still higher than any other area

[tacit tulip]

suggma not found

[potent gust]

my damage either 😭

[vocal ibex]

Get it

[viral snow]

u sure w4 does not give you more xp ?
21m seems very low

[potent gust]

Not at all

[dapper prism]

Definetely feels like 3-5x lower than it should be for early w5, although yeh vman is a special case xD

[potent gust]

Yeah I usually have 60-80M but here, level 74

400k damage max

[dapper prism]

Usually last zones w4 would be 10-20m xp, and zone 1 w5 would be aorund 80-120m (when u get to w5 somewhat fresh)

[tranquil sinew]

How do you get Dr so high?

[potent gust]

I was pushing W3 with it, 2M / hour

[viral snow]

seems about right if you rush it

[tranquil sinew]

I'm at 9 Dr without midas prayer

[dapper prism]

Then come all the situational stuff like GT, which in this case was yeh, very low due to rushing

[potent gust]

Ohh forgot an important factor

[viral snow]

i think i had like 200m on suggma with vman
But I cant remember for sure

[viral snow]

if you wanna quick level him make sure to put on the prayer for class xp
and maybe also some cards

[potent gust]

yay let him sleep

[viral snow]

Gotta play around if dmg or xp card will benefit your more in terms of level gain

[dapper prism]

SB plunderous kills (once high enough) and gemshop bundle are both the only 2x DR multis, at 1.20x each, so ~40%

So if i was 10x DR im 14x Dr due to those two things. and then all the other small things like divine gear, trophy, chips, midas etc.

[potent gust]

Cards / Prayers were on (signs tho cough)

[tranquil sinew]

Wait you can buy the bundle multiple times???

[dapper prism]

No, once

[potent gust]

Just hit level 75, half way for Vman quest (i have a Mman not a Vman i'm tired)

[dapper prism]

As said, SB TALENT and Bundle, that's 2 different things

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/LK4soeQ.png

[tranquil sinew]

Ohhh SB talent

I only have him at 500 plunder kills

Need to active more

[dapper prism]

Once u have vman eclipse talent for sb, you can easily get like 5k+ plunderous kills in a single night

due to the forced spawn

[viral snow]

https://i.imgur.com/Q4kNNew.png

[tranquil sinew]

I don't afk at night my phone gets too hot

[dapper prism]

oh right, pc helps xD

[viral snow]

just put it in cold water

[potent gust]

wow was not excepting that

wow

[little harbor]

wait, what level talent is required to get this?

[valid wraith]

Hi in world 5 Muhmuguh first quest I did all he said but it didn't work. Any help is appreciated.

[viral snow]

u guys use these new event stones for anything ?
https://i.imgur.com/yhDYEZP.png

[little harbor]

trash them

[next laurel]

They are ahh

[pale jay]

Used to be good if you needed defense, but plenty of sources now

[viral snow]

Thats what I was doing

Just wanted to make sure im not a dumb dumb

[next laurel]

Just keep the 4 originals type of stones

[viral snow]

Yeh i only got the w5 ones

and some of the mystery for stamps

has that plunderous buff been changed ?
I could swear it was 100 before

[little harbor]

i think it is 100

[dapper prism]

Auto sort = ftw

[viral snow]

I was about to say how do you live without auto sort

I wish it would be availble for normal inventory aswell

[dapper prism]

I used to not, but honestly it's so much better/quicker

[viral snow]

when it was not available I was living with out it aswell
but i love it now

[dapper prism]

I just accidentally pressed it twice early on, and then realized the sorting is actually pretty good once u just remember where what comes "in order"

never have to worry about empty spots and replacing things in the perfect spot

[dapper prism]

Not sure 🤷

Easy to just quickly test though

[viral snow]

its 100

[hardy shale]

Does skilled dimwit affect the divination xp gain?

[dapper prism]

Removed image then if it's wrong

[dapper prism]

only stuff that says div xp, does div xp

[hardy shale]

thanks

[gentle anchor]

how can i get more dmg on my meastro

i am lvl 1O8

i need Voidwalker

[sick kindle]

fishing cards from W6 are obtainable on an island?

[valid wraith]

Hi why am I not getting this quest?

[next laurel]

Search on Google or yt

[valid wraith]

I did then followed the exact steps

[paper sail]

Is that your ship #1 you're sending out?

[signal osprey]

Try it with your first boat

You only have 1 when you first enter W5 so it might be coded to that one specifically for some reason

[paper sail]

Same braincell

[next laurel]

U can’t

[pulsar condor]

Is the a list of all the skills that vman enchances with that one skill? (Don't have the game open)

[gentle anchor]

how im i ever suposed to get lvl 15O

[signal osprey]

Its the only braincell left too

[valid wraith]

I will try with my first ship. Thanks

[paper sail]

Chill with the crap answers

[next laurel]

It is what it is in 1 month u can get lvl 150 I had same problem

[viral snow]

idleon.wiki

[viral snow]

put him on the map with the highest xp/hr gain and either afk him there
or find the furthest map that you can active
if youre in w5 150 should not really be a problem as xp/hr is fairly high

[gentle anchor]

my meastro gets more xp/hr in w4 bc he does so little dmg

[signal osprey]

Then do W4

[paper sail]

Working on Grind Time with Bubo will speed it up a lot. Damage wise, its gear, tools with LUK, stamps, alchemy, cooking, sailing.. All the usual suspects

[next laurel]

And u can use this

[viral snow]

yeh then do w4
or try play around with dmg cards etc and see if you can get more xp else where
But in general nothing wrong with having him in w4
atleast you could candy there if you wished to

[next laurel]

Lvl up prayers and gods make it stronger or lvl up alchemy bubbles

[gentle anchor]

ow ye there are a lot of things im missing

gonne get higher fiscuffs too

[paper sail]

In general though, you should expect your Beginner to have maybe 5-10% of the damage of anyone else

[unreal fox]

quick question, if hampter 1/50k and i have 6x dr so 50k / 6 = 8333 monsters to get hampter, right?

[modern plaza]

yes, but that’s raw kills now MK

so your afk kills/MK

[hardy shale]

multikill only counts for the first item in the drop pool so take that into account @unreal fox

[modern plaza]

you need more respawn, movement speed, etc help with normal kill rate

[unreal fox]

my stats

[dapper prism]

Also, best to use ES (active) for them, the grind is long and 6x dr seems still kinda low for the hampter grind

[unreal fox]

i have 131k so i get 2.5 hampters/hour right

[dapper prism]

No

They just said, MK does not work for 2ndery drops

[quiet pewter]

131k is a pretty good dr

[modern plaza]

right so you should get like 28k kills/hr

[dapper prism]

Wouldnt it be 35k?

[modern plaza]

131k/4.67

[unreal fox]

lul i hate math @@!

[dapper prism]

Why is the extra 1 added?

[unreal fox]

[weary scarab]

How important are constellations I've kinda been ignoring them till up to this point and thought I'd ask if there're any majors buffs I'm missing out on

[dapper prism]

They get very good, and should definetely be done

[unreal fox]

my stats (ES)

[hardy shale]

@dapper prism because 100% multikill means you divide by 2, ie +1

[modern plaza]

does kpk show up in mk?

[dapper prism]

Yeh idk why i thought 100 was base xd

[weary scarab]

Is there any specific order to do them in

[modern plaza]

so sometimes the kpk can also make the numbers even more tricky 😦

[dapper prism]

Just get everything fast out of the way 1 by 1.

[noble mesa]

Das kpk is just anather name for mk?

[weary scarab]

Ok thanks

[lost topaz]

You're a good dude trickz. You've been helping people out since I went to bed this morning. 💯

[noble mesa]

I knkw what kpk is , but like in the game

[unreal fox]

i need help guys @@! how many hampter i get in a hour? ty

[willow drum]

probably not many

[noble mesa]

At leest 1...

[paper sail]

There is a guaranteed drop calc down in #1084911530417606656

[dapper prism]

Thank you 🙂
Gotta give and take, people helped me out a lot when I started, now in idle skilling someone keeps helping me. Least one can do is return the fav.

[hardy shale]

@unreal fox might be wrong but like 3.5 an hour?

[dapper prism]

way more variables that come in

[noble mesa]

U know a way to conect from my phone to steam on idleskillin?

[dapper prism]

Active vs offline
ES or troll char

[unreal fox]

131000 kills /3.67 MK=35694 ~35700 kills/hr
i have 6x dr so 50k / 6 = 8333
35700/8333=4.28 ~ 4.3 hampter/hr

right @@!

[frail mauve]

Not possible

[hardy shale]

it.s /4.67 not 3.67

[dapper prism]

Not possible due to how the game is cloudsaved from some reddit posts or on their discord. I just restarted on steam

[noble mesa]

Nooooooo

I dont want tooooo

[dapper prism]

I just restarted early-ish on. Just restart on steam, focus on unlocking realm and then just do realm and ignore 99% of the game until you hit that breakpoint. Then you get all Idle Skilling rewards pretty much isntantly except for the last one(s) and the only thing you wait on is the stupid "cant claim this for another 3 days, or 7 days" kinda thing

[noble mesa]

No

[dapper prism]

Also, hope you're not on ios, cause then big rip for a lot of that. Then def. restart.
Sorry #off-topic-chat

[noble mesa]

I make it pretty far on the phone

I dont have the power to do it again

[unreal fox]

can s/o confirm help me

[gentle anchor]

is eclectic ordeal way better than the uninfladed glove?

bc its way harder to get

[noble mesa]

Tnx my man😘

[zinc torrent]

Who should I push world 5 with?

As my main pusher?

[modern plaza]

@unreal fox you also miss to account for kpk 😦

[dapper prism]

You active? Then probably DK or Bubo.

[modern plaza]

so takes that 131/4.67/(1+kpk)

[unreal fox]

i check it 3,4 items/hour ty :3

[sick kindle]

fishing cards from W6 are obtainable on an island?

[dapper prism]

Not fully, remember you need to get past the proper time for guaranteed drops

https://i.imgur.com/ayju3mV.png

So if you are afk 1h, it's 3, 1h and 2mins, its 4.

[modern plaza]

it also says divide by kpk right there

[noble mesa]

Yep

[zinc torrent]

I have heard es is the best my bubo is pretty bad and my dk is also pretty bad is it worth the time to set them up for portal pushing I just got to world 5 today

[unreal fox]

ah i see

[dapper prism]

W5 you kinda go by purpose, unlocking portals by itself won't do you much. But who you want to reach last zone with is important

[unreal fox]

what's kpk sr im new :<

[modern plaza]

killperkill

[dapper prism]

Explained it last night to someone here:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[zinc torrent]

Well I kinda want to reach it relatively fast so I'm ready for world 6 and ofc I need a lot of damage but got any Tips for thay

[haughty cove]

the new update made the chips reset daily??

btw hi

[dapper prism]

Still DK or Bubo.
With w6 release, portal values will most likely be nerfd, and you'd want either of those for what you get at the end, see above link. At the end, alchemy is core to the game as usual

[sick kindle]

thanks

[zinc torrent]

I read it I will try getting my dk more damage and general things wish me luck haha

[dapper prism]

Be sure to do your daily CC's on bubo

[modern plaza]

lol imagine

[dapper prism]

Gemshop chips?

[haughty cove]

i buyed the chips 2 days on a row

no the chip shop in w4

idk if it bug our what

[dapper prism]

what chips do you see?

[zinc torrent]

Yeah I understand that alchemy is the most usefull but I neglected it a bit early so I don't even have diamond chef that is my next goal for alchemy since cooking is very important also at what point should I stop staying in divinety with all my characte?

[dapper prism]

mine are still:
https://i.imgur.com/tZiJl8R.png

[haughty cove]

the chips was the same but its reseted

[haughty cove]

yah these

[zinc torrent]

Btw 2 more bubbles and I will have diamond ched

[dapper prism]

Get goat, that frees up 4-6 charachters,
4-5 will be on goat in lab until you get tiger.
1-2 will be on bear (good on BB if cooking, and/or Bubo cause of +talents to hit 200+ tente faster and longer CC.
Also depends if they are pushing or not etc. Else Nobi for faster portals and all that crap.

[zinc torrent]

Chef*

[zinc torrent]

So if I have 6 character on the goat god then 2 on the bear then what do I have the last 2?

[dapper prism]

You only need 6 or 7 linked/in lab for all the nodes. depending if you have one of the jewels that increases connection range

[zinc torrent]

But wouldn't it be more worth to get all characters on the goat god so in the lond run I have more levels or what?

Long*

Also so I can switch between them

So I can level everything?

[dapper prism]

1 is active like bubo or DK pushing.
2-3 could be anything, vman if it needs to be skilling for rank 1's. BB if it needs to chow. Or alternative just rotate them for afk w5 xp for more talent points/levels

[zinc torrent]

So I should do it like this my bubo archers and dk and es should be in the gods till the bear God then my second dk should be pushing and my bb should be chowing and my es should be farming anything either divinety or material farming or some?

[paper sail]

A Bubo with Goat, Essence Transfer talent, and Mantra style can give lab and div exp to everyone slowly

[zinc torrent]

What is mantra

Oh it's the kinesis thingis

[paper sail]

Divinity style that gives div exp to everyone

[gentle anchor]

whats a good score for W4 colosseum?

[ionic badge]

doesn't respawn help both those things?

[viral snow]

Score doesnt really matter as long as you hit the requirements for all chests

[gentle anchor]

whats the req?

[dapper prism]

wiki has the score listed

but by w5 you should easily manage that.

just spam the spawn button and your dk will kill it all ezpz

[viral snow]

Yep w4 colo is perfect for dk
If youre struggling hitting requirements for all chests youre lacking in quite some areas

[dapper prism]

any colo, use dk

[little harbor]

think it is worth it to do the 100%s?

[haughty sedge]

always

[dapper prism]

Always do the left one's until 100% pops up, then you do the 100%. Should kinda know that if you're already that far 🤔
Only once you're basically done and doing god ranks and/or have the alch bubble really high, then spamming left can be worth it

[little harbor]

im really bad at min maxing, i just click stuff

theres an alch bubble?

[viral snow]

Yes for chance to not use div points

[little harbor]

oh right, i remember that one

[grizzled hollow]

always do the 100%

[scarlet bay]

wasn't there a chart with which screens were best for CC, or am i crazy

[paper sail]

All the flat maps, basically. Tremor Wurms, Citringes, Moltis. Floms or Cans if still bad damage.

[potent maple]

for card drop %, do I want to put card drop cards in the doubler slots or straight drop rate cards in the doubler slots?

[scarlet bay]

well, back to floms, not quite enough damage to one-shot moltis

but i have 3s tent now

[tacit tulip]

3s tent alone is huge

[scarlet bay]

almost doubled my usual progress lol

[terse nexus]

what does sampling while in vman speedrun do?

[misty spindle]

Can someone tell me if I should buy first golden sprinkler upgrade or one of the couldren upgrades?

[fallen anvil]

hi, i'm wondering does anyone have those 2 eldrich unlocked? they really don't want to upgrade even tho all my boats are on them and i used all my consumables https://imgur.com/9SsLzOi

[gentle anchor]

does anyone have a guide how i can get a lot of Calcium cooking progress?

im lvl 136 on my bubonic

[visual lava]

vman can increase their mob respawn rate by quite a large amount while in a speedrun by killing bosses, making vman the best mob material sampler

[wind umbra]

just unlucky

[fallen anvil]

@Danyun Thank you! :p , so your skills go to 245?

[wind umbra]

yup

[fallen anvil]

was geting paranoïd, now i'm hopefull thanks ^^

[misty spindle]

Dude I got to W5 without realising that afking in kitchen gives ladles

[quartz urchin]

Are Super chows still broken if you have 2 BBs?

[high gulch]

are blessing bonus passive or allways active

[dapper prism]

being passive and always active is the same thing 👀
But yes, blessings are a permanent passive/active bonus

[high gulch]

ty

[valid plume]

anyone who knows Where I can check my sample size % ingame? I thought it was somewhere in player info but now it seems I cannot find it anymore

[swift pecan]

Anyone know where i can get the chart for what level i should be getting alchemy bubbles to?

@valid plume under the construction skill i belive

[dapper prism]

Combat level is kinda irrelevant. Especially once you 1shot stuff.
Main thigns are level anything up that helps CC, like roadkill bubble, PO Box alch/mana.
Crystal rate, chocho chip as they count for kills too.
For flat maps prioritize using aura

[dapper prism]

#1084911530417606656

[valid plume]

ty, found it

[gentle anchor]

can u recommend some maps i can do it in? not in w5 nor in high w4

[dapper prism]

Someone else just wrote some basics earlier

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[gentle anchor]

whats floms?

[wind umbra]

squid monster

w4

[dapper prism]

open the map and click the different zones, it's one of the mobs

[wind umbra]

not squit

[gentle anchor]

ow ok thanks

[gentle anchor]

i think imma get the cans bc i can one shot those

[dapper prism]

Here more info:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[quartz turtle]

worked so hard. 58wormhole kills in r44..... so close to getting my 5* cards

#💖future-content-blog message read this as status of the game and I was like, maybe he will listen to someone.

[dapper prism]

You doing wormhole on the bottom left, down the chain?

[quartz turtle]

yep, o/w cant do s.t 😄

[dapper prism]

I hate the statue grind 😦

Forced to grind them active, wish instead of statues there was something else

[signal osprey]

More statues

[gentle anchor]

ancient artifacts u can always get right? after u found the original one

ok

does w5 have its own music?

[scarlet bay]

i don't even think w4 has music does it?

[prisma drift]

W4 does have music

W5 doesn’t tho

Wow actually

W4 plays a different song based on what island you’re on

How it’s broken into 3 space rocks

3 different songs

[viral snow]

Thats new isnt it ?

[eternal mantle]

yes more statues please

[viral snow]

Dont remeber w4 having music

[prisma drift]

I don’t think it’s super new

I think it had music for a while now

I have music off on iOS so I only hear it on steam

So I can’t say for sure

[viral snow]

I always have it on mute on every platform
Just sometimes for background noise i activate ir

[dapper prism]

Always mute for me

[prisma drift]

I grind stuff on my phone and listen to podcasts with headphones

[tacit tulip]

I'd have gone insane if I didn't mute it

[prisma drift]

So that’s why I mute my phones audio

But steam is usually just doing small tasks I can’t do on iOS

[viral snow]

I find it much harder to actually get stuff done on ios
Atleast on an iphone

[stuck elbow]

9.4 rock off!

[dreamy spruce]

thats fast, nice

[dapper prism]

Rock on ftw 😄

[stuck elbow]

its too fast and annoying to do with on

[dapper prism]

Yeh by 10mins id probably also have rock off

[signal osprey]

After you have all T6 evo the rock goes off forever

[dapper prism]

Was trying to get 20 chems for the lolz..
https://i.imgur.com/V1Nnz7n.png

still stuck on 19 for days and days

Use my chems or no?

[dreamy spruce]

just click harvest all, for your sanity

[stuck elbow]

anybody get a t7 plant yet?

dont think ive seen it on the discord

[viral snow]

Harvest all

[dapper prism]

No xD

[viral snow]

Do it for the lolz

[dapper prism]

Need those logs for more nugget attempts, my nugget sucks

[signal osprey]

Doubt it. Theres probably only a handful of people who have T7 unlocked to begin with

And even then the time to get one is insane

[dreamy spruce]

how do you unlock t7?

[dapper prism]

superbits

same as t6

[viral snow]

Time

[dreamy spruce]

didnt know gaming takes that long damn

[stuck elbow]

im sure theres way more than a handful that have it unlocked

i can get it unlocked if i wanted to in 1-2 days, but i dont see the benefit to do so

rather upgrade my other stuff

[signal osprey]

I think you're underestimating how doable 300m red bits is for most players

I promise its a very small group that could reasonably save up for that

[stuck elbow]

hmm i always considered myself low or middle of the pack end game, but maybe for gaming im kinda up there lol

[signal osprey]

Gaming has nothing to do with your account

[dapper prism]

T7 is 100x longer than a T6 unlock, not too bad but also not too easy

[signal osprey]

If youre an early game player and you roll a fat nug congrats you have end game gaming

[fervent brook]

Is there a optimal level when you should click on chems? Finally unlocked it.

[signal osprey]

Thats just how that shitty skill works

[stuck elbow]

thats not true

i was stuck with a 37k nugget up until 1.5 months ago

[signal osprey]

37k is above average

Not amazing but better than most

[stuck elbow]

yeah, but when you say fat i was thinking 100k+

[viral snow]

37k is pretty huge
Some would say even too big

[prisma drift]

My 150k nugget didn’t save so I hate gaming

[signal osprey]

And then the other main part is snail but people cheat that so it also doesnt matter

Get a good nugget and cheat your snail and congrats youre end game

[stuck elbow]

funnily enough, 1.5 months ago i got a 104k or so nugget

then 2-3 weeks later i casually got a 140k nugget

i wasnt even expecting anything more lol

[signal osprey]

You're easily in the top 1% of nuggets

[fervent brook]

Snail helps alot. Anyone that is close to snail should save up and get it.

[stuck elbow]

its true. i think the snail is the #1 factor

[signal osprey]

So yes getting T7 unlocked should be pretty easy for you relative to most players

[viral snow]

140k must be something like 0.001% chance

[signal osprey]

Thats very optimistic

I promise its lower than that

[stuck elbow]

ive gotten lucky enough where i havent had my snail reset a single time even before the atom

but i was very patient with my encouragements and didnt yolo much

[signal osprey]

Thats also well above average

[stuck elbow]

there were times where i waited 2 weeks before leveling lol

[viral snow]

You got some of that insane luck to spare ?

[fervent brook]

The snail atom upgrade is nice. But he really should add one for the nugget.

[prisma drift]

Hey man I’m about to run a Nkattle can you rub some luck on me

I really want that trophy

[stuck elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/booty-rub-smiling-massage-gif-14703370

[viral snow]

Next companion

[stuck elbow]

bruhhh it took me like 6-7k keys worth of nightmare runs to get my first wing with 19x DR

[dapper prism]

Kinda normal tbh

Wings are 1/3k base

[signal osprey]

Yeah that amount is very normal

I took 27k keys for 1 cape

[dapper prism]

I got 4x pendants within 10 kills the other day though, so happy about that after a small dry streak

[dapper prism]

First cape at 8 kc, 2nd cape less than 10k?, 3rd cape proabably around 17k

[signal osprey]

First cape at 384 kc, second at fuck that I'm good for now

[willow drum]

i've gotten more capes than pendents :/

[dapper prism]

Im on 5k keys atm, tempted to go for 4th cape, but usually like to save up to 10k keys 🤷

[placid mural]

bois. . . . its about to happen lol

[dapper prism]

Nice 😄

[stuck elbow]

i hit 10k a few hours ago too

[dapper prism]

I should really do more bubo when im active

[placid mural]

dude its so easy to just pop on a show and just. . . . click

[dapper prism]

ruined your level there..

[dapper prism]

Yeh but would still take me about 3-4 days i guess? for 5k to 10k

[placid mural]

yeah a few days for sure

here is the other benefit though

[stuck elbow]

probably closer to a week unless youre planning to play 16 hours a day

[dapper prism]

Idk, i just recall 3k to 4.6k was a day and that was without even checking hourly at all

[stuck elbow]

the water cost goes up tho

[placid mural]

im going to go to 10100 just for your Lambyyy

[dapper prism]

yeh ik

What are your larry's at and your average CC dura?

[placid mural]

if you take the water node off in lab it goes A LOT FASTER

[signal osprey]

I stopped at like 8k and see no point in doing more until I can do CC while farming on DK

[stuck elbow]

its way too micromanage-y with it off

[placid mural]

but 50% faster 🙂

[dapper prism]

With it on it's checking in like once an hour.

actually barely even* 45mins

[placid mural]

true but if i am sitting here watching a show its no biggie to just click while i watch a show lol

[stuck elbow]

ahh shittt i took mine off to check my capacity with it off and gimped my water lmao

[placid mural]

and with the water node off i am almost at 50 water/nitro an hour

[dapper prism]

I was thinking of leveling cauldron water rate to lvl 150 before pushing GT

Wondering how beneficial that would be

[stuck elbow]

1100 larry and 101% cookin roadkill for me

[prisma drift]

5th pendant

You were holding back on the luck

I said I wanted cape

[stuck elbow]

if you drop it on top of the tired mole as a sacrifice, you will get the cape within 10 runs

[gentle anchor]

is enfaunt helmet so good that u still use it?

@prisma drift

[prisma drift]

No lmfao

[gentle anchor]

why u use it?

[prisma drift]

I’m just incredibly lazy

Wanna see his tools 💀

[gentle anchor]

haha

[viral snow]

Hoggin is gatekeeping

Efaunt helmet best in class confirmed

[zealous niche]

Any way to lock the atom conversion threshold to 1050? I just wiped out a month of progress to some max vials by accidentally swapping it to 15M

[lavish forge]

any idea if there could be party maps added to the game later?

[signal osprey]

Turn off the atom collider

[zealous niche]

Will it still convert if it’s off?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[zealous niche]

Nice, not intuitive, but glad we won’t have a repeat decimation

[sharp igloo]

Are you guys pushing this stamp much past 60? The cost seems to be a bit ridiculous at that point, but idk if Im just not getting good money per hour.

[signal osprey]

You dont actually even need the collider to be built to start getting particles. 1050m is a hard cap and anything over it turns to atoms no matter what

[zealous niche]

Thanks

sighs in thread

[signal osprey]

65 is fairly easy and 70 is doable if you're committed but probably not worth it unless you're Zelb with over 300b gmush

[dapper prism]

@signal osprey whats your gmush DN at?

[signal osprey]

30b

[sharp igloo]

I have 10bil, and it takes like 2 days of active bubo to get from 56 to 57 lol

[signal osprey]

Yeah you're definitely missing some other multis somewhere

[sharp igloo]

Would you mind taking a look at my idle efficiency and letting me know whats missing?

[signal osprey]

Sure

[sharp igloo]

https://idlejade.idleonefficiency.com/

[signal osprey]

That link isnt working

[sharp igloo]

I just copied this link, is there a different place to get the link from?

[dapper prism]

click upload..

Last updated more than a year ago

[signal osprey]

Yeah the update fixed it

[sharp igloo]

Oh okay thanks

[fallen jacinth]

what is the minimum damage for vman to kill chaotic kattlecruk ?

[sharp igloo]

I think people were sayin around 50bilish

[dapper prism]

Thats nightmare

But chaotic shouldnt be that hard

[sharp igloo]

Oh nvm i was thinkin nightmare

[signal osprey]

Do you have doot?

[sharp igloo]

Yeah

[signal osprey]

Aside from gmush the biggest difference by far is alchemy

The bubble for % money from stats is a huge bonus and then also pushing bubble 1 to get more of the stats

Some quick easy things you can do are W1 colo with DK to finish the boss card and your money prayer is a couple levels short of max

[gentle anchor]

what is the next update gonne be?

[fading dust]

Are poopy pickaxes more worth to use than void-dementia pickaxes as stat sticks?

[paper sail]

Poopy Tools have 6 upgrade slots

So long as the stone you're using is stronk

[dapper prism]

At 2.2t dmg, i was getting 40b dmg from using poop pick over void.

[fading dust]

not so shitty after all huh

[signal osprey]

Also if you're able to push cooking more the meals are a separate multi so they make a large difference too

[sharp igloo]

Okay thanks, I just started focusing more on hourly bubble 1 clicks, so Ill start using my atoms on the % money ones.

[dapper prism]

Vid of difference for me here:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[signal osprey]

Also worth mentioning that you have almost none of your characters on tranqi for div so you're giving up free div levels

[fading dust]

Damn Trickz, its 1 AM go to sleep

[sharp igloo]

Oh didn't know that, Ill use my ladles on the money one then, thanks

[signal osprey]

Which is important because the harriep minor link is also a separate multi to money so its pretty impactful especially with doot as they stack so you have the bonus 10 times

[dapper prism]

Its 4pm 🤔

[fading dust]

O we're in different time zones hahaha

[sharp igloo]

Wait really? I thought they were all on tranqui. Thats the one that gives 3xp while not at the alter right?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

You have only one on tanqi

Div levels + Big P is up to 1000% more money multi so definitely worth doing

Not to mention all the other strong bonuses it provides with doot

[sharp igloo]

Weird...Ill go put them back on, I could have sworn they were. Maybe I took them off when I got to 80 and forgot to put them back when I took them off the altar.

[signal osprey]

Also hitting DR breakpoints makes a pretty big difference too so if you have the damage to run midas that could help

Plus you get more keys with more DR too

And your 2* event money card could probably get replaced for a DR card as well as the money keychains for DR chains if you have some as money chains do almost nothing

Your bubo also doesnt have any points in the crystal spawn star talent so thats a huge loss

Most of your money comes from crystals

[little pagoda]

I only got 10 shells from the coolers today did I do something wrong?

Or just unlucky?

[paper sail]

6% chance or so

[dapper prism]

1/16.7 but doesnt it give 15 at a time? (based on wiki)

[opaque sun]

Its not something to be consistently cleared every day

[little pagoda]

actually I got zero shells, the 10 I got was from the quest

Damn 10 is definitely not enough to do the second quest

[opaque sun]

Its just like there is a chance you get something extra if you are lucky

[dapper prism]

So then you just didnt hit the roll.

[paper sail]

Yeah, I failed the quest day 1 lol

[dapper prism]

Is the quest a daily!?

[paper sail]

Just save extra shells as a buffer until the end of the event

[little pagoda]

I mean 1 in 16 but I opened 50 coolers so that was just bad luck

[dapper prism]

oh god

[tacit tulip]

yeah I forgot to do it today too lol

[empty berry]

where is the besst place to farm with cranium cooking?

[paper sail]

-1 day

[dapper prism]

lol first 7 chest already rolled shells twice 😄

[sharp igloo]

Thanks, thats really helpful. Ill swap out the keychains and card. I have enough damage for midas or jawbreaker, but Im not sure if I have enough for both at once. Which one is better?

[signal osprey]

Jawbreaker by a lot

[paper sail]

RNG be like that. My alt got Popcat hat on first day. I'm betting my main never gets it now

[sharp igloo]

Okay. I guess my damage is a bit higher than last time I tried both. Would 200bil be enough to do both at wurms?

[signal osprey]

That should be more than enough

[sacred verge]

whats ur guys food carry cap?

[signal osprey]

You might not 1 shot crystals with poison but thats not really a huge deal

[hazy atlas]

how does teh divinity advice change if I have King Doot?

[sharp igloo]

Okay cool, thanks a lot

[dapper prism]

A lot. get all chars to lvl 2 div for bonuses, still need tiger some day for it's minor to work

[sharp igloo]

337k per slot

[paper sail]

200 - 800k depending on Zerg vs Rucksack prayer

[little pagoda]

1 shotting crystals is only helpful if you have chocolate chip cookie, if you don't it does not matter at all

[sacred verge]

do you guys rock like 200-300k golden grilled nomwiches?

[dapper prism]

wow 15x Oyster shells was enough to max The event cards to 4* 😮

[little pagoda]

and even then i think it barely matters

[paper sail]

"Max"

[sharp igloo]

If I had that many I would lol, but i only have like 45k

[dapper prism]

well, 5* will only be a few more cards

[sacred verge]

ive farmed like 250k grilled nomwiches atm but it must take ages to get that for something like 2-3 chars.. lol

so i was just wondering if ppl actually do that

[paper sail]

64 vs 1836 only a few more

[hazy atlas]

is there a sailing guide?

[fading dust]

Anyone got any tips to maximize my gains from this event? :]

[sharp igloo]

Where do you farm them?

[dapper prism]

when you get card drops like this... its close enough
https://i.imgur.com/tp8fKAS.png

[sacred verge]

like at what point is the falloff soo high its not worth it

[sacred verge]

tremor with DK

[fading dust]

Give me tips master

[dapper prism]

Summer Event Maximize Cards (Cooler)

• Use DK
• Enter the map while wearing Card chance cards, they will snapshot and you can change card set.
• Equip and maximize Crystal chance, to maximize orb stacks.
• Best not fully auto and make sure your DK statue knights are always on both floors.
• Before Orb runs out, Change to DR cards, and spawn your Event mobs.
• Kill Even mobs before orb runs out.

PS: You can Hold down on Seashells to use them over time slowish (I was worried it would use the full stack)

Easy 4-5* cards:
https://i.imgur.com/whdqvVJ.png

[signal osprey]

The point you stop with nomwiches is when you have enough to have a full stack on every character

[sharp igloo]

I guess you wouldnt even wanna stop there, cause when w6 food pouches come out youll need way more lol

[fading dust]

Damn that's actually so helpful. Do you also wait for high orb count to open coolers as well?

[paper sail]

What's this weak magma hammer about?

[dapper prism]

No apparently that shouldnt have any effect

[tacit tulip]

card drop rate cards snapshot on map entry, all you did there was lower your drop rate lol

[fading dust]

Why should you max crystal spawn rate?

[signal osprey]

In all seriousness though I think having at least enough for 1 full stack with max carry cap ( rucksack/starsigns) is a good goal so you can pass that stack around for samples

[dapper prism]

why would it lower the DR?

[dapper prism]

more mob kills = more orb stacks

[tacit tulip]

you swapped from drop rate set to CDR didn't you?

[dapper prism]

No

[tacit tulip]

ah, exp set

[dapper prism]

Crystal for orb, then to DR

[signal osprey]

And yes you can do full carry cap and equip the big gold food stack and then switch to a sampling setup which loses carry cap but you get to keep the big stack

[dapper prism]

Could i snapshot the card chance ones with these changes? like snapshot card chance, then do crystal for orb, then to DR ?

[little pagoda]

Maybe you know this and just didn't wanna spend them all but you can hold down on the shells to use them fast

[fading dust]

Oh so snapshot card chance, use crystals card set to stack orb, then swap to DR card set?

[vague garden]

I’m not getting coolers?

[vagrant mountain]

can't double snapshot but I didn't know you could snapshot crystals :O

[vague garden]

I can’t find any

[dapper prism]

Dont want to spend them all, not sure how quick they trigger and was worried it would use the whole stack (although could just bank the rest)

[signal osprey]

You cant

[dapper prism]

Not snapshooting crystals though?

[signal osprey]

He ran crystals to stack orb and then switched to double DR for killing the event mobs

[vagrant mountain]

oh I thought that's what you meant here

[signal osprey]

You lose the crystal spawn when you do that

[dapper prism]

But by that time you dont care about the crystal anymore

[vagrant mountain]

I see

[dapper prism]

Also best to not auto fully, and manually place DK knight statues on both floors

[vagrant mountain]

sounds sweaty

[dapper prism]

It's 2 minutes of effort to get the most out of event cards that may or may not show up 🤷

[fading dust]

Why double DR instead of card chance if you're farming cards from these mobs?

[sharp igloo]

I just checked and I dont have that star talent. Where do you get it?

[little pagoda]

picnic stowaway

[sharp igloo]

Thanks

[signal osprey]

Card chance is determined when you enter the map

So the optimal setup would be to enter the map will doubled card drop

[little pagoda]

It's +116% crystal spawn chance at 100 so very important

[signal osprey]

Then swap to double crystals to stack orb

Then to double DR for the event mobs

[fading dust]

Oh then double DR

smort

[signal osprey]

I just kept my normal DK setup though because I cba to do all that

And I finished 5* blueberry on day 2 anyway lol

Its a 2 week event so I would imagine most people should be able to get the card done without needing to do all that extra stuff. Just pick a good DK map, get the most DR you can, and then use the items

[little pagoda]

It's still worth doing them even if you don't need the cards, the shovel guys drop more coolers

[tawny jetty]

ok, can any one suggest a team to beat this guy....i cant figure out a comp that works

[signal osprey]

They definitely do not drop more coolers

[dapper prism]

There i updated the "guide" xD
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[zealous niche]

Rattler, mono, fleeter, shield, refiller refiller worked for me

[little pagoda]

it's literally in their drop table?

[tawny jetty]

thanks ill try it

[zealous niche]

I had to play around with shield position

[signal osprey]

I should also mention that even without jumping through those hoops my normal crystal build on DK has 20.35x DR and I havent gotten a single cooler at 800+ orbs

[little pagoda]

??

[zealous niche]

Only gotten 50 coolers a day, none dropped from event mobs this event

They have in the past though

[dapper prism]

Also the only reason i tossed on DR cards was because i thought they had more things in their drop table like gems, which they dont, but even then still good xD

[little pagoda]

Lol I refreshed the page and it was removed

[signal osprey]

This is the second time this event has happened and a lot of the drops have changed

They probably dropped coolers the first time

[little pagoda]

Sooo the shells are literally useless if you max the cards indeed

It might be useful for small stuff like getting extra orb for some reason

[signal osprey]

Use em on your weekly minibosses to get higher orb

[little pagoda]

Yeah

[zealous niche]

Can be used to get past orb rifts too

[tawny jetty]

thanks, seems to be working so far lol

[little pagoda]

I was thinking that but not sure if it would work there

[zealous niche]

Once you’re past the first chunk, it’s rare to fail

[tawny jetty]

Yeah thats what i assumed, i have ingored breeding for awhile, just went to wave 200 in a few min, decided to finish unlocking these guys

[fading dust]

PIN THIS

[tawny jetty]

can i take this combo to the end?

love you aj

[zealous niche]

Sometimes shield works better in second or first place rather than third but yes

[fading dust]

Does card drop rate snapshotting reset when you restart a boss fight?

[zealous niche]

If I was getting KO’d instantly I’d just move the shield and then try again

Got all the spices with that team comp

[tawny jetty]

ah yea, i just lost a refiller on the next guy, but its working now

this is a dirty combo lol

[zealous niche]

One refiller isn’t bad to lose

Both you’re definitely gone

[tawny jetty]

their all 40k+ so their hitting hard

[zealous niche]

Lose shield and you’re gone

[paper sail]

https://scoli.idleonefficiency.com/ Anything I've been ignoring too harshly?

[vagrant mountain]

me

[little pagoda]

It's looking like I'm gonna be able to get idle skiller trophy in a few days, idle skilling wasn't nearly as hard as I was expecting

[zealous niche]

Salts

[tawny jetty]

whens the last time he updated skiller?

[uncut bear]

What attack Talents does active bubo need?

I Heard should be four

[little pagoda]

I don't know when it was but the last update was the one that added realm I'm pretty sure

[dapper prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1125251335164534804/bubosetup.png

[uncut bear]

Ty

[paper sail]

I assume you're suggesting more Omni links?

But also like.. what am I going to do with salts at this point? Just an epeen flex and some mild DK damage

[hexed crescent]

You're gonna need lots of salts

There's salt vials aswell, soo..

[dapper prism]

5k and 10k nullo salts for all the skulls and traps

[paper sail]

I already crafted all skulls, have enough nullos in bank to make the other 9 traps

Just waiting in case something else comes around more beneficial than 15 agi

All 10 already in Magma/Kruk

[tawny jetty]

getting eatten alive by this guy

[hexed crescent]

You have been ignoring weapon upgrades in dungeon for slab

[paper sail]

Certainly not ignoring them. They're expensive

I only have 3 purchases left

Wait, 2? I bought one yesterday

[signal osprey]

Salt vials are a meme at this point. Going an omni setup is not worth it at all if vials are your main focus for salts lol

[zealous niche]

No just talking about ranking up your salts

[paper sail]

I mean I'm doing that..

[zealous niche]

You’re auto-refining

[paper sail]

They need to stay in balance, yes

I'm not leveling all of them nonstop

[tawny jetty]

why not thats silly

[paper sail]

🤷

[zealous niche]

Ah, different methods then

[gray pagoda]

What's a good map to get a lot of kills really quick on ES?

[zealous niche]

I’m ranking all up then stopping them at the highest balanced rank I know of

So about to finish my blue salt

[signal osprey]

Why stop though. Rank forever

[paper sail]

So you're just wildly unbalancing lol

[zealous niche]

Yeah and then letting them end in balance

[signal osprey]

The balance thing is just for a marginal boost to QoL though

From an efficiency perspective its pointless

[tawny jetty]

This

Like your pretty far ahead of me Scoli but i have higher salt levels, just let them turn and burn baby

[zealous niche]

Mhm, so going unbalanced the whole way is lower QoL but gets there faster

[opaque sun]

salt vials are very doable than you might think. Probably by end of 2023 some people will be getting 1b salts

[zealous niche]

I’m considering the last line in the salt balance picture ‘finished’

May come back to it later

[signal osprey]

Yeah I mostly meant its not worth going for more omnis than you normally would to try speeding it up

[little pagoda]

Is it ever worth putting eggshell pets in fence yard for eggs?

[opaque sun]

Not really

Much better to do shiny

[little pagoda]

Yeah, I'm not far from unlocking shinies

[opaque sun]

Its like +1 egg every month level of not worth

[little pagoda]

Why even make it a thing at this point if it's not even gonna be used ever, idk why Lava is scared to make niche stuff actually viable sometimes lol

[paper sail]

Any other notes besides dungeon weapons in slab and different salt strats?

[gentle anchor]

How can i go into the rift if i dont have any teleports left?

[paper sail]

walk

[gentle anchor]

where is the rift

[opaque sun]

Walk and enter the rift as you first did the quest

[gentle anchor]

i cant he says that i can enter the rift using the world map

[opaque sun]

then i guess all you can do is buy teleport upgrades or wait till tomorrow

[sharp igloo]

What are the DR breakpoints for active cash gain?

[signal osprey]

Every odd number

[paper sail]

Every odd number starting at 5

[sharp igloo]

Cool thanks. Are they linear or are certain breakpoints bigger boosts than others?

[paper sail]

I think it is 2x, 4x, then 5x, 7x, 9x, etc

[dapper prism]

Money Coins DR Breakpoint
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1095251490186207252/dr_money_breakpoints.png

[signal osprey]

Should be linear forever i would assume.

[dapper prism]

Also keep in mind you never want a flat 7.00x or 9.00x always have at least 0.01x higher due to rounding as you may be beneath the breakpoint

[sharp igloo]

Okay. Im at 10.77 on my bubo after switching to dr trinkets and turning midas on. Should I swap some cash obols for dice obols to hit 11?

[fading dust]

Do yall swap to a card drop rate set before resetting boss, then drop rate for max card farming?

[signal osprey]

Think of it as 1x multi would be dropping the mobs money 1 times and each breakpoint makes it drop the money an additional time thats more or less how it works

[signal osprey]

Ideally yes if you want to maximize card drops but I don't bother personally

[paper sail]

I don't, personally. I double Sir Stache and Snelbie, add in Gigafrog, then full DR and call it good 🤷 Can't be asked to swap constantly

[signal osprey]

I just run the 2 best card drop cards with the 6 DR cards

[fading dust]

Thinkjng about doing it for King Doot card farming

[signal osprey]

Well I guess its 7 DR cards now

[fading dust]

Dont get much of those per day

[paper sail]

When I did my Doot farm, I was getting 6 cards per run

[signal osprey]

Yeah I cardified that lol

[paper sail]

Takes like a month worth of Doot summons, not terrible

[dapper prism]

688 cards for king doot 5*

[paper sail]

We'll all still be here in a month

[signal osprey]

Its a lot more than a month at 6 per day

[dapper prism]

3.5 months

[paper sail]

Ah. Well, I already had some before I started lol

[fading dust]

Lava needs to scale some of the more difficult parts of the game down

[paper sail]

That's not difficult at all.. It just takes time 🤷

[fading dust]

Yea, less time-gating

[dapper prism]

bigger issue is 688 dr defecaus

[paper sail]

Considering we get the quick retry button for Doot, I was okay with it

I don't want to spend these

[edgy sorrel]

anyone know why my construction stats would suddenly drop? trying to figure out how i lost 40% total exp on my DK's but nothing comes to mind

wait con isnt a w5 skill, woops

[paper sail]

Active character gets less Cons EXP That's my guess

[edgy sorrel]

i went from 250mill/hour to 200mill on my DK, and i've changed nothing

so confused

[signal osprey]

His system for making 5* card requirements was very well thought out

To get any card to 4* it requires 16x the number of cards that it takes to get it to 1*

[opaque sun]

its a known issue of active char gets less construct exp

[edgy sorrel]

the two numbers were on the same active char though, just 1 day apart

[signal osprey]

He looked at that 16x and said I think I want my 5* to require 459x the number of cards to get it to 1*

[opaque sun]

maybe changed preset?

Also depends on who is wearing construct obol

[edgy sorrel]

obols and cards look the same

[paper sail]

Obols are speed only

Exp would be the star sign, big bubble

[edgy sorrel]

nah obols are all 3 con stats

[signal osprey]

Speed gives exp

[fading dust]

HAHA ngl idk how anyone would be able to get the amount of keys needed for 5* troll with it being a 1/333 chance to get a card

[signal osprey]

Thats a fun interaction never explained in game

[paper sail]

wat

[signal osprey]

Build rate and build speed are 2 different stats

Build rate is the rate wat which you build things as you would expect

[opaque sun]

And construct obol is an active obol

[edgy sorrel]

con obols give an insane incease in con exp

[quiet pewter]

yeah it kinda works for monster cards, but its no coincidence he brought out a gem shop cardifier at the same time as doing taht for the boss cards

[signal osprey]

Build speed is kind of like a total speed boost to the skill as a whole giving both build rate and con exp

[opaque sun]

const obol pretty much does nothing on an afk character

[signal osprey]

So obols make you build faster and level up faster

[edgy sorrel]

i wish idleonefficiency had snapshots so i could compare wtf i changed from a few days ago

actually tilt

[fading dust]

We get some carrots dangled out in front of us that we dont get unless we pay 🫨

[paper sail]

Huh. Never noticed the difference in rate/speed terms. Lava is known to be inconsistent with terminology

[signal osprey]

Thats the fun part. You dont. It takes less keys to farm the boss on normal until you have enough gems for a cardifier than it takes to farm the card

[brazen cliff]

Well that was a hard nametag to get.

[quiet pewter]

carrot card is actually pretty easy

[fading dust]

Yea gem farming is way more efficient

[opaque sun]

crystal cards are like auto ruby if you did any statue farming in the past

[quiet pewter]

how the fuck did you open 500 already

[fading dust]

Haha I meant figuratively

[signal osprey]

This is the second time we've had this event. He had coolers from last time

[fading dust]

Give us the stats!

[quiet pewter]

to anticipate further figaritive statemets, the stick is also easy to get

[opaque sun]

people who had hope and kept the disabled coolers

[quiet pewter]

not bad

[brazen cliff]

I had ~600 coolers from last time. Being a packrat pays off, sometimes.

[quiet pewter]

smartz

[dapper prism]

15% xp is an insult xD