lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[zealous helm]

Thanks guys, is the max 54?

[gentle anchor]

idk what hes good for

[runic girder]

Colloseum, mini bosses, rift, farming crystals (obols and statues)

[paper sail]

Rounding man strikes again

[runic girder]

Max what

[gentle anchor]

ow ok

[zealous helm]

@runic girder max portal clear for the speed run

[runic girder]

Noone reached maxed, but people have been gettinf 60+

[gentle anchor]

im getting 3OO kills in 5min not 5OO what can i do to improve?

[runic girder]

Max is every mob and nightmare boss

[runic girder]

Are you oneshotting?

[gentle anchor]

they have 5m hp my max dmg is 3m

[runic girder]

Theres your thing to do

[gentle anchor]

but is DK way better then ES for this

is it worth spending my candies on him

[runic girder]

Try ES but unequip portal

[gentle anchor]

i did

got 311

[runic girder]

Yeh, dk has a lot better aoe and a easier respawn mechanic

[fast grail]

Are there times where there are no mobs? or can you juyst not kill them all?

[gentle anchor]

nah not rlly

i can farm some cards rlly easy

which would make me get 5OOk extra dmg

around

[fast grail]

Level up attack talents, get more damage, rift is an late-game thing

[gentle anchor]

what does rift even give?

[runic girder]

#1084911530417606656

Go look around a bit, theres one for rift

Nvm already got it

[golden cipher]

Some of them are really high end

[gentle anchor]

if i kill the 5OO slimes do i gave unlock lvl 1?

[fast grail]

You need to get to rift 6 to unlock first bonus

[gentle anchor]

my zero key is broken so i do a O instead of zero

[fast grail]

but based upon your damage, you are not ready for rift

[dapper prism]

Rift doesnt even really help much unless you get to rift 16.

Think it was a few mil dmg for r16?

[gentle anchor]

ok

[gaunt shale]

decided to update nvida drivrs while game was open, now my poor sb has enterd the void

[dapper prism]

Your SB is fighting the darkness

[azure spindle]

the true voidwalker

[final relic]

what does god rank do besides used for ES damage talent?

[dapper prism]

+% div xp or gain, it tells you on the divinity altar what the gain is once u get a rank up

but the main thing is the ES dmg,

It's multi, so decent

[lyric sequoia]

(it's not decent)

[dapper prism]

Ohhhh Summer event awaiting approval 😮
I hope the gem shop bottles get reset xD

[gentle anchor]

i am alchemy 32 I NEED 35 how can i do this

[golden cipher]

How much damage should I need to kill nightmare kattlecruk with maestro?

[gentle anchor]

i will use everything i need to to get there

[lyric sequoia]

"Multi" often doesn't mean much because there's no "multi" number in the game that isn't in groups of additive amounts of the same type

[zealous helm]

@golden cipher I did it with about 50 bil, just took a while

[dapper prism]

Just do cc ?

[gentle anchor]

cc?

[golden cipher]

you tried to kill all moles or just focus boss?

[dapper prism]

As long as u 1 shot moles, u can do nm kruk, it just takes longer. 88b dmg took me 12mins, so 44b would take ~24 mins. etc.

I posted a vid on it, you'll definetely focus moles 95% of the time

[golden cipher]

uuff ok, nice to know

[dapper prism]

Video here: #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[zealous helm]

@golden cipher you have to alternate, save the aoe ability for when boss is about to get hit by moles, then target boss, once the moles start getting close again rotate back and forth with whip and coin until aoe is up again

It's super cancer but it works, just takes a while

[gentle anchor]

@dapper prism whats cc

[paper sail]

Are you asking about the Maestro questline...? If so, you're way in the wrong channel.

[gentle anchor]

no i want second alchemy shop

[dapper prism]

Cranium cooking, shaman skill

[gentle anchor]

ow ok

[golden cipher]

ty

[paper sail]

If you don't have a single person at 35 alchemy, you're still way in the wrong channel lol

[dapper prism]

Lol for real xD

[paper sail]

This channel is for questions surrounding W5. Alchemy is a W2 skill.

[gentle anchor]

im in w5

[golden cipher]

I have 2 maestro so it will be super duper fun

[gentle anchor]

bro wtf does it even matter if i ask questions in the wrong chat

[dapper prism]

and your alchemy is lvl 32? then you seriously neglected stuff

[zealous helm]

just because you're in w5 doesn't mean you should be in w5

[dapper prism]

Reminds me of the person that used candy to skip w4 and they had like 100 kph

[paper sail]

Because context is important.

[autumn pilot]

Just top be sure. For the companions the bonuses are not cumulative right? If I have 2 companion adding 5% to something it will remains only 5%?

[zealous niche]

What is IE showing me to zow? IT shows just boops, but IE has nepeyetunes and two mysterious ones too

[paper sail]

The 999 eyes are a bug. Ignore.

[dapper prism]

Companions are a single buff unlock

[zealous niche]

No extra bonuses from duplicates no

Duplicates are meant for trading which is coming

[dapper prism]

Also if u delete a companion you only own 1 of, you lose the buff

[zealous niche]

Other two?

[opaque sun]

there is absolutely no reason of having a dupe free rolled companion

[dapper prism]

Think the single zone stuff maybe, like the solo nutto, or mimic chest?

[deft stirrup]

kinda sucks that free companions give nothing whatsoever, even the higher grade ones

[autumn pilot]

I just wanted to make sure how OP this function was. I just came back to the game after a few months of not playing

[zealous niche]

Could be dupe poops and nuts? Haven’t done those yet

[paper sail]

The no-image 0 is also a bug. The broken image is because of the new island expeditions. Nothing to kill there, so still ignore it.

"Companion Park" and "YumYum Islands" are what you get if you hover them

[deft stirrup]

for scrapping I mean

[paper sail]

Which would be.. where we claim companions map, nothing to kill. And ISland Expeditions.

[zealous niche]

Kill the doot companion!

[paper sail]

#💖future-content-blog

[gentle anchor]

if i cramium cooking do (the shaman talent) whats else can i best lvl instead of cc

and in what area should i do it

[opaque sun]

do cc in wurms

for talent levels, raise dead, teneyecle, and aura are relatively important ones

[zealous niche]

Finally slabbed the alchemy liquid only obol

[opaque sun]

Also use a melee weapon instead of a staff as aura is the main killing force, but by using a long ranged staff, the frequency of using aura reduces a lot

[zealous niche]

Daily buying obols is done!

[versed cypress]

thats one hell of a massive commitement to the slab gratz on the acomplishment

[runic lichen]

The wiki says that for Chaotic and Sacrilegious Kattlecruk you need only 7.5 and 37.5 accuracy, while normal Kattlecruk needs 3750. Is this an error on the wiki, or in the game?

[fading cape]

yay. Resample day yields double samples in oak logs.

[gentle anchor]

why in worms and not in the green mushrooms for example

[fading cape]

not sure. Their cards say 900 to hit for all three

[zealous niche]

There are empty slots. They must be filled!

[fading cape]

length of time aura stays up vs clusters of mobs and where they spawn, as well as how any mobs spawn on the map as a whole.

[gentle anchor]

but i cant one shot those and the mushrooms i do

and wdym with lenght of time auro

[fading cape]

It's difficult to explain without you seeing it. But Aura takes up a certain amount of space, lasts a specific amount of time before needing to be recast in that spot, etc etc. All of this makes certain maps better because of the way mobs spawn in specific clusters where auto attack is going to walk and recast. You should always be doing CC where you can one shot crystals (if you have choco) or the specific mob for the place if no choxo

[gentle anchor]

ow ok u mean the wurms in w4 right

[fading cape]

I mean anywhere. Some maps are better than others for those reasons.

[slow olive]

Sad

[gentle anchor]

is there somewhere a cc guide?

[fading cape]

Not that I'm aware.

[livid schooner]

More mobs, less platforms is best

One shotting mobs is best too

[opaque sun]

wurms as in the last mob at w5, not the stationary biggile wurm

[gentle anchor]

does kill per kill and multikill work on CC?

[kind epoch]

what lab level do I need on average to get everything linked with 6 characters? and do I need to do something funky with bubo to do it, or can I have it out of lab?

[gentle anchor]

whats best cc map in world 1 & 2 or 3?

[paper sail]

About 250 line width per character

[tawdry steeple]

I think this is still valid

[azure spindle]

can you superchow rift?

[junior arrow]

yes

[zealous niche]

._.
What

[versed cypress]

rift counts as a completely unique monster so yeha you can zow chow and super chow rift

[runic girder]

All rift monsters are one right

[versed cypress]

and your best time to do it is when the rift is in its starting tiers

[runic girder]

Cause there like 5 different ones still

[versed cypress]

yeah you can think of all mobs in the rift as a sort of shapeshifter monster than just turns into familiar monsters to us

[runic girder]

Cant wait to get -8k movespeed for frogs

[opaque sun]

zow chow is technically per map, not by mob type

[bright current]

ide like to thank W6 fish for their contribution to fishing leveling speeds

[green eagle]

yeah, 1k family level is very easy now lmao

my vman is level 115, and then everyone else is between 90-110 now, feels good

[runic girder]

Isnt the acorn on accorn assault map zowable

[green eagle]

fishing went from literally the worst to upper tier for leveling speed

[runic girder]

Lol

Is it viable?

[green eagle]

absolutely not, unless you have too much candy and nothing else to do

[runic girder]

So yes

[dapper prism]

Nutto is easy to chow/zow

[green eagle]

i thought he was talking about super chow?

[dapper prism]

It's the dungeon mobs like mimic that are impossible due to dmg cap

[runic girder]

Kinda meant in general

[green eagle]

then go for it

[runic girder]

Oowh no im not planning on it

Was just curious lol

[gentle anchor]

u cant candy world 5?

[zealous niche]

I chowed the poop 2 and nutto 2 with a two hour candy each then

[zealous niche]

Can’t skip last world’s content

So when w6 is released, candy can be used in w5 and for w5 skills

Same thing happened for w4 when w5 came out

[gentle anchor]

the divinity that if youre connected to the lab ur also to divinity does ir work the other way around too?

[fading cape]

It is a god, and no

[zealous niche]

No, bear is for the other way round, but bear connects you to lab regardless of where you are

Divinity/deity/god are all interchangable

but pretty sure in game they're called divinities by kruk anyway

I personally like deity

[gentle anchor]

ow bruh ive been in divinity the whole time (with the god activated that if youre in lab it will also count as divinty

ive got king doot

[zealous niche]

So if you've got doot you've got all deities

are you trying to get lab and div exp simultaneously?

[gentle anchor]

ye bc one god gives that

[zealous niche]

Then everybody you want to do that needs to be in a tube

[gentle anchor]

there is no point of being in divinity bc u better be in lab bc than u get the same bonusses from div and u get lab xp

[fading cape]

The mysterious T. It does exist...

[pulsar condor]

It make sense to max out balance of precision prayer bc of over accurate crit, right?

[heavy moth]

first time i get 3 days

[gentle anchor]

Can someone help me I’m pretty stuck I just entered w5 and I’m too weak to kill the mobs and don’t know what I should do with my character if u want too see my idleon efficiency I will give it

[zealous niche]

Let's see

[gentle anchor]

Ok 1 sec logging in

[green eagle]

why would you use that prayer? lol

[zealous niche]

Looking into it since I wasn't sure of what you were referring to, no

Don't use that

[opaque sun]

the penalty is multiplicative so no reason to use it

[gentle anchor]

Here https://lilbin.idleonefficiency.com/

[zealous niche]

The curse of total damage loss is so much more impactful than the crit chance

[pulsar condor]

well that's why Im asking, if you max it to get the most acc but also have overaccurate crit and have 200% crit chance for the other skill

[opaque sun]

max damage affects afk but critical is basically just for active

[gentle anchor]

@zealous niche I can play every class btw

[opaque sun]

So you are trading a stat to a less useful stat

[pulsar condor]

Im asking, I havent like done the math. Im also stuck on a rift and its annoying

[gentle anchor]

If u answer make sure to @ me

[zealous niche]

-Lots of stamps you could get that would help, look for all the ones from lower worlds, especially quest drop ones
-Alchemy is quite low, work on getting all bubbles unlocked and to level 5 so NBLB can start boosting them

Those will get you the biggest gains to make your way into w5

You might also be able to make some progress into rift

[gentle anchor]

I can’t progress in rift yet I’m too weak

[zealous niche]

Alright, stamps and alchemy are your goals then

[gentle anchor]

Can you maybe say which stamps I should upgrade?

And which cauldron in alchemy?

[zealous niche]

Not upgrade, you have stamps available you haven't even gotten yet

Same with bubbles

I'm not saying upgrade, I'm saying obtain

[gentle anchor]

Ow ok and what should my char be doing?

[zealous niche]

Working on whatever brings you closer to those

So if you need materials, do that, if you need mob kills do that

So, Bubo and its CC will help with unlocking bubbles, that will be your best active char if you can active

[serene solstice]

4th one...

still no second necklace

[zealous niche]

RIP

[worldly bane]

is there an indicator when the shovel has a charge to dig? can't seem to see anything

[zealous niche]

No, it's time from last click, 1hr is when the first nugget forms and then they take longer to form from there

[worldly bane]

this game gunna have me running like several look timers at diff intervals to catch everything

[zealous niche]

or accept some inefficiencies

[tawdry steeple]

i.e and toolbox tell you when you can click

[placid mural]

How the hell have you gotten 4 capes but only 1 neck????

[zealous niche]

RNG

[serene solstice]

ask the game

[stiff sierra]

Shared cauldron xp is supposed to work with liquid cauldrons, right? I have my bubo and vman in the first liquid cauldron. I've done a bunch craniums and my vman still isn't getting alchemy xp, and neither is my other bubo that's in the same cauldron.

[zealous niche]

It's supposed to, but keep in mind that CC only advances the bubo you're on for exp

it advances liquids and bubble unlocks, but only gives exp to that bubo

[opaque sun]

same caldron exp buff works in sigils too

[summer grail]

Is there a “wrong” way to collect mantra on divinity? As far as order goes at least

[stiff sierra]

Hmm, looks like the shared xp is working again. Seems like I lose it if I change platforms (i.e. between PC and mobile).

[heavy moth]

pray for me guys

[opaque sun]

only wrong way to collect mantra is claiming the guys under 1hr

Like it needs a full hour to share the exp

[heavy moth]

if i get doot ill resample XD

no way

[zealous niche]

Resample time!

Don't break your promise

[heavy moth]

yea dont have choice i got it the roll i said it

[zealous niche]

Game will delete the doot if you don't resample

thems the rules

[pearl cedar]

Inb4 it was his 200th roll

[heavy moth]

ahahha 138th 😛

[patent hatch]

Poggers

[fast grail]

Join me in the re-sampling tonight

[crisp silo]

bruh i just got 4 trash

[heavy moth]

yea trying to get all my stuff dispatch over my account XD

[bold quiver]

Did lava said something about when he is gong to fix the drop rate on arcade? it doesnt work, i've been upgrading and not getting DR '.'

[versed cypress]

seems that trash base range was 3-8 with out any bonus

[crisp silo]

i got 2 trash upgrades

[zealous niche]

Remembered gear, cards, prayers, chips?

[versed cypress]

thats just 40% more so you still can get 4 trash if you roll 3 as your base roll

[heavy moth]

oups did it with snapshot gear my bad XD

[lament jasper]

it doesnt??

[crisp silo]

bryuh

[bold quiver]

nop

ive upgraded it to 94 and didnt get a singl drop rate lol

[lament jasper]

damn i've spent 6K balls on this i feel scammed

[bold quiver]

at least from 70 to 94 i didnt get 0,01

wasnt checking before

[crisp silo]

refreshed map?

[lament jasper]

coudln't check before cause i was locked at 6 cause of chip

[crisp silo]

man im just tryna help

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah no increase for me lol

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkk such a bummer

[lament jasper]

maxed damn

[crisp silo]

uhhhhhhhhh mine incresed

[bold quiver]

i will just finish cuz.... whatever but it was sucha waste of gems

[crisp silo]

i pumed in 2 lvls and it gave me 2% mor dr

was at 9.98x to 10x from lvl 18 to lvl 20

[zealous niche]

Don't have other things to gem?

[bold quiver]

no, maxed all gem store

[versed cypress]

ok well then i dont feel bad to not having any arcade balls to dump on getting gold balls for this upgrade then xDDD

[crisp silo]

10.01x at lvl 26 from 10x at lvl20

[pearl cedar]

14.6% dr to 15% would only be .004 increase. Probably wouldnt register

[bold quiver]

there is definerly something wrong with that upgrade kkkkkkk

[crisp silo]

maybe its additive to other stuff so its small as hell

[bold quiver]

yeah its a possibility

[paper sail]

I miss the moments from Idle Skilling where things were labeled as "Damage Group 1" so you could tell

[bold quiver]

i reported in bugs, if its a bug hopefuly one day its fixed, if its working as it is supossed to, well GG horrible bonus after a few levels

[gloomy bobcat]

sigh Maybe one day

[dapper prism]

Not good enough, 1b or go home

[heavy moth]

facts

so clsoe

[fast grail]

What is that AFK/Eff? about to re-sample my chopping as well

[heavy moth]

if only i had IS trohpy XD

[dapper prism]

Obols, everything setup properly?

[heavy moth]

you were right was missing some obols

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[signal osprey]

Did you mana snap shot?

[heavy moth]

i did not, true

snapshot is with gem shop window or alchemy

[zinc torrent]

Does anyone has tips on how to get frigid souls?

[heavy moth]

w3 TD

at snowman map

[zinc torrent]

I know about this

[heavy moth]

my bad read wrong ahah

[signal osprey]

Mana snap is alchemy

[fast grail]

Why did i want to re-sample, just realized that to be efficient, now i gotta level up meals since ive been superchowing for a while

[heavy moth]

damn thats true

[rough crest]

just got this lil dude, wondering which one to invest in first

[opaque sun]

Just do equally both

[wheat kiln]

How to increase afk gain rate ?

What to do exactly?

[opaque sun]

You are asking a very broad question with expecting a precise answer

[rough crest]

do you have the green snek god?

[wheat kiln]

Yes

[rough crest]

what type of afk gain do you even want then

[wheat kiln]

But this guy get 425 afk gain

It is alot

[rough crest]

is it for skilling, kills, or divinity or something else

[wheat kiln]

I want to gmash much more on H

[rough crest]

no clue what those mean

[opaque sun]

there are many many sources of afk gain

[wheat kiln]

I onli get 1 800 000 gmush

[opaque sun]

So without any more narrowing down context, you are asking for a 5000 word essay to list everything

[thin rose]

Doot is your no.1 source of afk gain :^}

[wheat kiln]

Yes i work to get dot

[opaque sun]

current high end gmush is like 20m/hr

[dapper prism]

nawh not at all

[hexed pine]

one must imagine sisyphus trying to kill kattlecruk

[thin rose]

I know, realistically prob 60-70% from doot

[opaque sun]

and in your question of “afk gain” i think you are also asking other stats that also contributes to afk related gains

[thin rose]

Also the type of afk gain

[hexed pine]

FINALLYYYY

[opaque sun]

Gmush isnt just “afk gain %” as multikill stat and respawn also plays a big role

[hexed pine]

now i can just catch up to my progress

ohh spiral statue

finally got it

[thin rose]

Now you just need to kill him on nightmare on all 10 characters

[hexed pine]

😭

honestly i think it won't be a problem for the first 4 and dk

the rest

well

[thin rose]

DK is easy enough yeah, that 1Q HP tho

[hexed pine]

their not even near 10mil dmg yet

[thin rose]

Goodluck doing it on vman

[hexed pine]

[hexed pine]

ong

[thin rose]

Wait what

[versed cypress]

as long as your active dmg on vman is enough to deal wiht the moles in one shot its just a battle of patience

[hexed pine]

they're lab slaves

except for my not yet vman maestro

[iron nymph]

It's worth pushing them still

[thin rose]

That's a lot of patience

[hexed pine]

[thin rose]

You'd prob need 200b on vman to do it without wanting to off yourself

If only vman had more aoe

[versed cypress]

not really if you can archieve around 10b on your stat window your bonus dmg should have more than enough acitve dmg since vman active dmg is way way more than what you seeint he stat window

[green eagle]

vman is doable much lower than that

[thin rose]

[green eagle]

it was incredibly easy when i did it at 110b

[thin rose]

So I can do it? I doubt it

[green eagle]

you save his void attack for when the moles get close

and then spend time fighting moles if you need to

[thin rose]

Cooldown is pretty heavy tho

[green eagle]

but it was super easy

20 seconds is meh

[worldly bluff]

can someone send me the link for cogtimiser? I can't seem to find it on google

[thin rose]

Even with 110b visual stat you're probably still doing 1tril+ a hit right?

Crystal said 10b on stat window idk if that's possible tbh

Well in a reasonable amount of time

[versed cypress]

the 4 punches, plus crit and mega crit, you would be doing way way more than 1t per hit

[thin rose]

I'm assuming that's with the 110b on stat window and not 10b

[heavy moth]

i did with 23 bil stat window

[opaque sun]

when people talk damage, its the max damage on charsheet

[thin rose]

Yeah that's why I'm saying stat window

[heavy moth]

10bill would be doable but long

[versed cypress]

10b you are ding more than enough dmg to deal with the moles with out even caring for them tough you will take a while to kill him but its more than doable

as long as you can deal wiht the moles fast its doable, doesnt mean its fast

[opaque sun]

200b damage vman is for the “auto and it dies” requirement

[thin rose]

I see

[versed cypress]

would 200b literaly one shot Nkatle??

[opaque sun]

It wont one shot, but fast enough to kill before other moles reaches

[versed cypress]

ehh good enough xDDD

[sacred monolith]

Is that 200b in the player screen or 200b with crit damage?

[opaque sun]

player screen

[sacred monolith]

Still a little ways off then

[scarlet gust]

is anyone else having an issue where upgrading the talent STAR PLAYER isnt giving star points for the special talent tab?

[sacred monolith]

go away form the tab and then return

[scarlet gust]

i first noticed it last night and ive logged on and off since then

still not showing

[thin rose]

[sacred monolith]

err...wait, for star player its probably a case where you've spent them already

Did you respect lately?

[thin rose]

I was thinking of stonks at first

[sacred monolith]

*respec

[scarlet gust]

nope

looks like its on multiple characters

[thin rose]

Could it be a case of overused star points?

[scarlet gust]

i dont know how i would have done that

[sacred monolith]

If you didnt' reset your talent points, were you using any of the cards that boost star tab points?

[thin rose]

Aren't all star talent point cards passive?

Soda an efaunt are the only 2 I believe and they're passive

[sacred monolith]

Oh yeah you're right

How about chaning guilds?

[opaque sun]

some sources of star talent points needs a cloudsave (character select screen) to apply

[thin rose]

Even when you cloudsave and come back they're still not there?

[scarlet gust]

ah yes i have been changing guilds

that would be it, thank you

[fast grail]

Well, this is even before im about to start leveling meals. . .

Wanted to check beforehand to see before and after

[thorn oriole]

Any good ways to farm w3&4 keys?

[crisp silo]

colo

[thorn oriole]

Any good ways to farm colo tickets?

[sharp igloo]

Check in daily.

[crisp silo]

pobox

[thorn oriole]

Damn

[fast grail]

Yeah, can get a good amount from PO6

[dapper prism]

Colosseum Purpose:

• Colo 1 = Gems per ticket (But not much more than colo 2, at the loss of candy)
• Colo 2 = Candy, Golden Kebab (+% Total dmg)
• Colo 3 = Slush Obols+Skulls, Golden Bread (+% Coin drop)
• Colo 4 = Eggs, Laddles
• Colo 5 = To be released

[versed cypress]

i guess colo 3 and colo 4 should also have their respective boss key farming added as incentive

[fast grail]

Hmm, what are your keychains? Trying to figure out where i am missing afk% in comparison

[placid mural]

What is your chopping eff at for that?

[fast grail]

1.5T

Trying to push it further with meals right now

[placid mural]

Hmmm I had 1.05T last sample ang got 850m

I guess that tracks

[lapis mesa]

nvm found the chart

[lost topaz]

https://monoblos.github.io/cogtimizer/

[heavy moth]

i got key to purgatory 10% afk gain and a 8% one from dungeon

[jaunty crag]

how do i use the cogtimizer

what would be my username lol

or how do i get my json

[zealous niche]

first char name is your 'username' most likely

[jaunty crag]

yeah i put it in and it brought up someone else

[zealous niche]

Matched the case exactly?

[jaunty crag]

yes it brings up the same one no matter the case

[vernal wolf]

question for Divinity unlink, is it "twice per character" everyweek?

[zealous niche]

You can unlink as many chars as you want in one go, but whether you unlink one char or 10, that's 'one' unlink for the week

[vernal wolf]

ok cool, thanks, I;m planning to temporary connect to snake for printer sampling

then go back to bear

[green cape]

i finally did it chat -manly tear-

[fast grail]

Gains today

[versed cypress]

nice gains

[fast grail]

4 months of neglect

[wanton obsidian]

Does one shotting with bubo a must to start active on him?

I'm on 160 talent, will be higher when I get atom collider

I really want to start Cranium cooking on him

I find that since I rushed my skills quite more than my class xp I have more than enough mats to upgrade bubbles but I'm in deep need for liquid

I also have choco chip, if that changes anything

[lapis mesa]

One shotting is not a full requirement, but you lose out on how effective it could be, the idea being that things spawn, immediately die, and trigger the tentacleye ability and then get respawned by the raise dead ability and then the cycle repeats

you will still get time from the CC ability. youll just get less, and youll get it less often. its up to you to decide if its a worthwhile use of your time

[wanton obsidian]

Is there a recommended way to set the talent order?

[dry hare]

Is it hard for the tears for rift to drop

[lapis mesa]

it cna be hard for them to drop

Vinny yeah there is give me a sec

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

i think that links to the right one

[wanton obsidian]

Tyy

[lapis mesa]

just remember a lot of the OPness of bubos CC comes from the lvl 200 Tent ability

you still get good use, jsut not superhuman lol

[wanton obsidian]

Yes I'm aware that I need 200 for bubo to be rlly rlly good

But Im just desperate for liquid

With 160-170 talent how much seconds do you think I'll get per cranium cooking?

[lapis mesa]

I apologize i wasnt trying to scare you from it, i was trying to help with my original mistake. I held off on using Bubo active before lvl 200 because i was so upset with myself for not hitting the end gamer nubmers, even though it would have helped me anyway

youll have to run it to see, with non one shots and a lower CC skill time i couldnt tell you

[fast grail]

Pre-w5, with 160 talents, endgame was roughly 50k-70k seconds of cc at floms if thats anything to go by

[wanton obsidian]

I'm planning on active at cans

I don't think I have enough dmg on floms for it to be efficient

[fast grail]

You will probably roughly get 25k ish at cans, but depends on your bubble level

iirc the damage threshold for pre-w5 was like 70m damage to 1 poision tick floms,

[wanton obsidian]

No worries tysm for replying tho I really appreciate it

[wanton obsidian]

Yeah I think I'm at 10m so Im not ready for it

[versed cypress]

im scared for the future of ppl getting to w6 with 10m dmg

[wanton obsidian]

Is that even possible

[versed cypress]

considering the requirements drop massively once the next world comes for the previous world... yes it will be possible

[wanton obsidian]

Actually with BB that's very possible

Now that I think about it

[lapis mesa]

Man... I have grabbed 5 artifacts today, 3 ancients

[fast grail]

The mob requirement goes down, but the boss itself is still a dps check

[versed cypress]

i mean most ppl seem to barely have 1 char properly powered up which does everythign and all others are just fooder

[fast grail]

Yeah, most people who rush just have 1 "Main" character, which for rushing is the best way, but then lots of people never change from that

[wanton obsidian]

I see I see

[versed cypress]

and considering how overpowered DK shockwaves are even low dmg in the stat card means the shockwave still deals dmg in the billions

and a half assed DK with barely anything can deal with kattle just with the shockwaves

[fast grail]

Hmm maybe, moles have 900m hp and a dk might be able to do that with 10m and crits

[versed cypress]

most likely with the shockwaves a 10m dk should be able to one shot the moles

maybe not at 10m directly but a low dmg DK shouldnt have that much issue

[vagrant mountain]

people who have a 'main' in this game are playing it wrong, change my mind

[lapis mesa]

i mean, my issue is the MK for portal reqs really, so if those get dropped like previous worlds, yeah youd have some really under prepped people. that whole.. amarok armor to kruck ya know

[versed cypress]

gear is not really the issue

gear is basicaly the cherry on top of yout whole build

[wanton obsidian]

You are very much right lmao

[vagrant mountain]

yeah this setup beats nightmare kruk

[versed cypress]

theres a lot of things behind an account than just gear and normaly underpowered accounts have many many insane issues xDDD

[wanton obsidian]

I used barb to push w1 - w2 , swapped to bm push w3 then ES for w4

[vagrant mountain]

stamps and alchemy

[versed cypress]

those two are the main ones but with so many bonuses all over the place now its not just those now

but yeah stamps and alchemy are the main ones

[vagrant mountain]

average person asking for help with IE

1500 stamp level
only half the bubbles unlocked
lab nodes not active
cooking ignored
100k avg deathnote

[versed cypress]

dk construction level <100

[vagrant mountain]

[versed cypress]

salt lick unfinished

[vagrant mountain]

i dont even open IEs unless they are asking a specific question

[versed cypress]

no obols

[vagrant mountain]

or i feel like flaming

[wanton obsidian]

You should see nyx's ie

[vagrant mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-rider-flame-on-gif-15730743

[versed cypress]

barely using the anvil

[wanton obsidian]

It's so cursed

[placid mural]

Lol new companion idea that would make this discord implode: main stat bubbles are now base stats instead of "total stat"

[vagrant mountain]

😆

companions are just couriers for game changing buffs

"all cards are now active"

"all chips are now active"

[placid mural]

All prayers active at 100% with now downside

No*

[vagrant mountain]

that should be this fr

btw i was using this yesterday and it seems that it just straight up doesnt work

[wanton obsidian]

Can I reroll this to %5?

[vagrant mountain]

used candy at bored beans with 1m kph before and after the prayer so I thought maybe it only showed up in death note and not afk info but nope just doesnt work

[vagrant mountain]

no

[wanton obsidian]

4 is max?

[magic ingot]

for pops are we supposed to keep them at silver?

[vagrant mountain]

yes

[wanton obsidian]

Damn wth how can bronze opol be rerolled

But not silver

[magic ingot]

family tree?

[vagrant mountain]

both

[magic ingot]

:o

[magic ingot]

v nice

[magic ingot]

other than pops and the luk bubble what else scales drop chance?

[vagrant mountain]

theres a lot of sources

[magic ingot]

guess wiking it would be the best option

[vagrant mountain]

idleon insight might be better

[versed cypress]

card doubling chips now affect all your cards active and passive and stack with each other (only 1 of each type)

that would probably break ppl mindsxDDD

[crisp silo]

seems like a decent bonus

for $700

[lament glade]

Guys, i'm trying to get some gems, but when I click to buy the gems it says it's going to proceed to the purchase but nothiing happens? is this a bug in steam? or in game?

[vagrant mountain]

i buy gems on android because it's cheaper heh

never had problems on loading the payment page on steam tho

[lament glade]

I didn't know that hahaha

[sick orchid]

For some reason on android it doesn't work for me, just pc

[vagrant mountain]

i'm Canadian, I think google play just has better conversion rates than steam

saves me like $2 on a $20 pack

but its actualy like $26 for me lol

[lament glade]

i'm brazilian 😅 but maybe i should see if in the android works

but I wanted to use steam cuz it is easier to pay for me there, in google play i have to do some shananigans hahaha

[vagrant mountain]

oh haha i have fingerprint to pay, its dangerously easy

[placid mural]

Just to confirm you had 0 prayers active right? You can have any

Can't have any*

[vagrant mountain]

uhhhh no, i think you misunderstood me. i equipped the prayer and it didnt work

[placid mural]

The reason it didn't go up is because the damage reduction is a reduction multiplier, not additive to "total damage buffs" so you likely dropped 1 or 2 multikill tiers

[vagrant mountain]

so I dropped from like 26 damage tiers to 25 and i lost 100k kph

but i didnt receive the extra kills for deathnote

[placid mural]

And it's not a 100% increase over the total kills including muktikill, its 100% increase over the base kills so its a terrible prayer

[vagrant mountain]

oh really so its basically a base multikill buff?

[placid mural]

It's only usefull if you aren't hitting multikill tiers at all

[vagrant mountain]

sadge

trying to farm bored beans for statues / 1b death note

thought i was cheating the system

[humble flume]

Anyone gotten a good score at dps dummy for individual hits on shimmer island and got some good tips?

[vagrant mountain]

play ES and pray for good tornadoes

SB might be more consistent

[dapper prism]

Gz! this is some motivation for me to do mine again xD

[jovial spire]

i just got to w5 and also got a king doot pet from my free weekly pets, for the king doot to work do i have to unlock the divinity gods to have them inabled or how does doot work with the gods?

[zealous niche]

You need div level 2 on all characters to activate doot, then you get access to all deities, but you need to unlock the deities to level their blessings

[dapper prism]

Get divnity level 2 on everyone to get all gods major+minor buffs (except for the blessing and Tiger's Minor)

[zealous niche]

You also need higher divinity levels to make better use of the minor link bonuses

(As those scale with divinity level of the character)

[dapper prism]

So you still want to unlock some gods down the line, but you may be able to go backtrack other content first.
God 1+2+4+6 blessings are just "div gain",
God 3 is effy,
God 5+7 is sailing buffs

[jovial spire]

so with the other worlds once i unlocked the 5th world i could tele to that world with all the characters, im guessing thats not the same with world 5?

4th*

[zealous niche]

You can

[dapper prism]

Same as every previous world, once 1 char gets there, all chars can reach it

[zealous niche]

Just get everybody up there, whack them on the altar to get div level 2, then doot will activate

[jovial spire]

bet, thanks yall

[fast grail]

This was my afk screen, my keychains are very shitty so can easily get more afk%

[dapper prism]

Yeh i only have 1 afk gain keychain

Maybe fomo shop will have the afk keychains sometimes soon
cough cough hear that Lava? take my gems!

[dapper prism]

For a second i thought u had 448 T effy and was like "wtf" xD

[fast grail]

I just pray that they are guarenteed rolls, not like the BS he did with IS chains

[fast grail]

Lol yeah, logs on logs make it look like that, kinda annoying honestly

[dapper prism]

Might do my sample run over the weekend

[fast grail]

these were my chopping bubbles

[dapper prism]

Those some high af bubbles

Although my later bubbles are a lot higher

https://i.imgur.com/OWvehQU.png

Probably barely a difference xD

[fast grail]

Yeah, actually not sure how much of a diff its make, maybe next time ill save atom upgrades and see how much eff it gives

[dapper prism]

That's kinda what i want to do on this run

Compare some things, like divine vs magma, IS hat vs magma hat, etc.

[random saddle]

Is it worth to use candy on vman for skilling?

[dapper prism]

For some card grind, yeh

BB is better than vman for fishing cards btw

[random saddle]

I just wanna get vmam skill lvl to the highest

Currently my main skill char lvl mostly are higher than vman so they are not getting the buff?

[dapper prism]

Correct, vman needs to be #1 in w1-2 skills (+worship)

Always think it through if u use candy

Only purpose will be for the effy buff incase you resample soon. else you can grind it out normall if you're lazy 2 sample today kinda thing

[random saddle]

Im always lazy sample lul from 200k to 7m sample tdy

So what should i take note when spamming candy like smith and worship do they get bonus from it?

Or smelting?

[dapper prism]

Yep, all 3 do

[fast grail]

Could be printing a ton if i was only printing oak

[dapper prism]

7k keys used, 5k to go, gonna get a cape on this alt, yay or nay?

[untold hearth]

got to world 5 not long ago just unlocked 2nd god should i be going for the 25% or 50% or what when trying to unlock new gods

[zealous niche]

100%

[graceful bramble]

Is scarf farming better on normal chizoar or chaotic?

[zealous niche]

Use the left button to roll until you have 100% in the right most

[tranquil sail]

how much faster is even possible in a week

[zealous niche]

it's the most cost efficient way to unlock deities

[untold hearth]

so roll the 1 or 5% until the 100 pops up?

got it

[random saddle]

So what other thing to take note like which card should i use?

Any candy spamming guide?

[dapper prism]

typically just get passive cards unlocked pretty early into w5

[random saddle]

But for smelt do i need to check back or just spam?

Only worship and smith is axtive

[dapper prism]

anvil gotta make sure you dont reach cap, same with worship

[fallow pawn]

does the snail reset to 5 at 10 or to 10 at 10?

[dapper prism]

Bars is irrelevant as there's no cap

[random saddle]

Okok

[dapper prism]

10 to 10 BUT you have to cloudsave for Atom unlocks to work, so unluck atom, cloudsave, then check again

[fallow pawn]

ive got it some time ago, so it should be cloudsaved long ago, thats great to know, thanks

[random saddle]

Also can i see a skill build for lvl400 divine knight ?

Should i spam w4 collo?

I have like 900 ticks

[dapper prism]

depends if u need w4 colo drops?!

Colosseum Purpose:

• Colo 1 = Gems per ticket (But not much more than colo 2, at the loss of candy)
• Colo 2 = Candy, Golden Kebab (+% Total dmg)
• Colo 3 = Slush Obols+Skulls, Golden Bread (+% Coin drop)
• Colo 4 = Eggs, Laddles
• Colo 5 = To be released

[scarlet gust]

do tokens actually do anything?

[random saddle]

Im also not sure whicj collo i need

[dapper prism]

Tokens?

[random saddle]

3 seem good

Get collo 3 to make bis skull for all?

[scarlet gust]

NPC toeksn

[dapper prism]

If you have the 10k nullo salt for each one?

[random saddle]

Just consume them u can take them out and craft title

[dapper prism]

Yes, quest for trophy, some arnt out yet but on the roadmap

[random saddle]

Oh trophy

[random saddle]

No lul dem wth they cost 10k nullo each?

Holy f

[dapper prism]

Just use the wiki for some of these basics, or check the anvil recipe 🤔

[random saddle]

How alch does it progress with candy?

[dapper prism]

Don't believe so, but you use CC for alch anyways

[lapis mesa]

not sure what i changed but my bubos crystal luck is on point.. i almost always have one on screen now

[random saddle]

Ooo i see how about prayer

Do i take both + eff and + xp gain i mean how that 2 prayers work tgt

[dapper prism]

After you reach 100% effy (1x) in the skill afk info window, any effy above that does not give XP, so effy becomes "useless" however mman does have that buff for +xp -effy, so worth playing around with that

[random saddle]

I mean theres 1 prayer + eff - xp amd the other one is the other way does they just cancel it out and give nothing?

If both equiped

[dapper prism]

Simple math, dont overthink it

depends on your prayers levels.. and the displayed values.

[random saddle]

I see

[queen lava]

Yk, i was struggling with acc at first in w5 with like 30k, and then somehow jumped up to like 80k without points into acc stat

[dapper prism]

a lot will start adding into it and boom you're in the millions

First think would be snake minor link

[queen lava]

Yea i used that first and it helped a lot

When i started getting to the boss i swapped to nobisect

And i wasnt struggling with acc

[brazen cliff]

280k from CC seems...meh?

[fallen flax]

Just go for DR on the golden ball shop this time around? I'm up to lv 34 so far.

[dapper prism]

Yay cape* done 3rd char 🙂
https://i.imgur.com/STFQMG6.png

[twilit goblet]

are tooth farmed at normal kruk?

[dapper prism]

Not sure, i got all 4 b2b2b2b within like 10 kills when i was at around 70s kc earlier xD

I think people do but i feel like it's unnecessary since u want/need the capes anyways

so just go for capes (for trophy too) and get pendants on the side

[twilit goblet]

ah make sense

[dapper prism]

Also pendant is 1/2.5k cape is 1/3k so you're likely to get a pendant for everyone before the capes anyways

[twilit goblet]

hmm probably normal for me since my vman is really weak at the moment

but i could use the keys

obols*

[dapper prism]

I dont do nm grinds on vman yet

oh obols start getting crapped out like they are nothing
https://i.imgur.com/Q1dEC4j.png

[twilit goblet]

lmao im comparing rates between chiz and katt

chiz blankie is 1/1k while katt tooth is 1/100k

definitely feeling the differences there

[dapper prism]

Yeh i woiuldnt do norms

[slender spire]

Is normal to have x69k

[dapper prism]

that's high, and nice

[slender spire]

Oky

[stuck elbow]

zoom zoooomm

[dapper prism]

What's it at with kitty on?

[stuck elbow]

when it was at 9.8 it was 1.7 i think

so now maybe 1.6 or still 1.7

too many chemicals that im too lazy to chain

[dapper prism]

Yes, i know that feeling
https://i.imgur.com/QPCnlDh.png

[stuck elbow]

damn what level is your gaming?

[dapper prism]

188

[stuck elbow]

why is your nugget so bad still

oh

yeah need to do more chemical chains

[wanton obsidian]

Question about obols, should I go for all silver pop obols on family and personal (the one I'm active) or just try to farm up dice obols

[dapper prism]

Only been playing for 5 months (yesterday) but my nugget luck has been bad

[stuck elbow]

im sure you can get a much higher chain soon enough

i mean much higher nugget

[terse oracle]

Is snehebatu good?

[wanton obsidian]

Currently have all bronze re rolled pop obols

[dapper prism]

Was 13k, rolled 10k, then 15k, then 17k, now a few more 10-12k's.... still waiting for when ill actually get a proper 5 digit+ nugget xD

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/ZSl9LpN.png

https://i.imgur.com/qIBRmuK.png

Replace those red's with Pop's

[terse oracle]

Does snehebatu good?

[dapper prism]

Good to have personal DR on both ES + DK so you dont have to switch if you're lazy

[wanton obsidian]

I don't think you understood my question

[stuck elbow]

i found that upgrading my shovel helped substantially, and i guess dont be too lazy on gaming

ive done it enough to start lazing on it haha

[wanton obsidian]

I was asking if I should prio silver pop obols over dice

[dapper prism]

Shovel is on 300%+ atm, thing is i got like 15+ chems within like 3-4 days. Then used some up, down to 10ish, then suddenly ended back up on 17-18. Thought it would be fun to just do 20/20 chems now xD

[stuck elbow]

its not a big deal, you can get them within a few days. dont fuss over which one will save you a handful of hours

[dapper prism]

Different drop source, depends on your crystal rate, if u have choco chip etc.

[dapper prism]

There's better out there, check the pins for divinity guide/info

[dapper prism]

Dice are from w2 crystals, done with dk. if your crystal rate sucks like cards etc. then pop may be easier

[wanton obsidian]

I do have choco chip

[wanton obsidian]

My crystal rate is 100 ish I believe

[stuck elbow]

yeahh thats pretty decent. just gotta work them chemicals

[wanton obsidian]

And my DK has decent talents

Lvl 150 if that makes any difference

[dapper prism]

That with crystal cards?!

[wanton obsidian]

Yes that's right

[dapper prism]

and/or card doubling chip

[wanton obsidian]

No card doubling

[terse oracle]

Ok thanks

[gray schooner]

gaming question: is the snail encouragement permanent or for the next lvl up try only?

[dapper prism]

not permanent

with the new atom unlock, best to just yolo it. remember atom upgrades only work/count once you cloudsave. so unlock atom stuff, cloudsave, then do things

[stuck elbow]

im too scared to yolo it

this is already after 4-5 encouragements

[dapper prism]

Thats why i stay at a "good spot" like that for enough upgrades, then hoard my tickets for a while:
https://i.imgur.com/1Tb4UaX.png

So if i fail, at least i can try and get it close to that again

[stuck elbow]

i havent lost my snail even before the atom

[fast grail]

Happen to know if gold relic is directly time based or based upon daily resets? Never paid attention to it before

[stuck elbow]

so i am a believer of getting as high as reasonably possible

then yoloing it

[stuck elbow]

im guessing daily reset but idk

[zealous niche]

For easy maths, let's assume a 25% of success and 20% of reset, what that's actually saying is 25% you get it, 60% nothing happens, 15% you reset

It's chance of reset IF it fails

[stuck elbow]

yeah something like that. ive referenced the excel sheet before, but im just going by feel these days haha

[gritty sierra]

What's the suggested island unlock thing

[ancient quail]

What should I spend my shimmers on?

[thin kernel]

this nuts XD

[marble pagoda]

Hi could i ask whats a good prerequisite to start vman? I have him but from what i see online ppl need like 50B damage or smth when im nowhere near that so i just left him essentially as a maestro

[gritty sierra]

Start vman at any time

Hes useful

[dapper prism]

Expedition Island Guide Sheet stuff
https://i.imgur.com/wACmQ8e.jpeg

Trash first, and although this states shimmer second i'd say go with seasalt, i went shimmer and regret not doing seasalt.

[dapper prism]

You don't need 50b dmg for anything except NM Kruk kinda thing. which is also kinda irrelevant. He definetely helps a shit ton. Do your worships, traps and everything for max XP on him, and he will help

[deft grail]

any tips on nuking down the worm in rift 38

[zealous niche]

I also regret prioritising shimmer over seasalt

[deft grail]

on DK and Bubo?

[ancient quail]

what did you guys spend your shimmers on? I've got 3 lol

and is there like a limit to how many you can get?

[gritty sierra]

Damnit I did trash and shimmer too

I should have checked before

[ancient quail]

cause right now is max hp for me, I got 3 shimmers, does my max hp have to be higher next time to get shimmers from this trial

[gritty sierra]

Hindset being 20/20 and what not

[zealous niche]

From what I understand if the same type of test comes up a different week you should be able to get more shimmers from it even if you didn't get a higher best score

[ancient quail]

sweet

[dapper prism]

shimmer is a weekly and it's rng for what trial you have

[zealous niche]

From what I understand no

[dapper prism]

also be sure to use the proper classes for shimmers to maximize your shimmers

[zealous niche]

If it is yes, then that would make a max amount of shimmers available and RIP to buying without knowing what your'e doing

[ancient quail]

yeah that would be crazy, especially with the 1% star talent book

but doot was crazy, yet here we are

[thin kernel]

@dapper prism after like 10 hours.. 1500 keys... so around 3k / day -+ 😄 so soon a lots of keys.. to go down the nh drain XD

[dapper prism]

The challenges have breakpoints like (made up numbers) having 10k hp would be 1 shimmer, 25k would be 2, 100k would be 3, etc. so as long as you get further next time you'd get more shimmers.

[dapper prism]

150 keys between multiple chars?

[zealous niche]

The question is, if the trial comes up now, and I get 3 shimmers for it, do I get 3 the next time it comes up too, or 0 (if I don't improve)

[thin kernel]

all my stickyman is farming it atm

plus dk aktiv farming it to

[dapper prism]

But its just simply the same trial. it's not 3 or 0, it's whatever you manage to reach next time

If you didnt improve at all and stayed the same, then it'd be 3

[ancient quail]

Don't you get anything for your current best DPS?

[zealous niche]

The numbers were just for illustration purposes

[ancient quail]

The straw guy on shimmer island

[dapper prism]

It's a shimmer trial, when you have it

[ancient quail]

Aha

[zealous niche]

@ancient quail also used in the star book talent you buy from shimmer

[ancient quail]

Good to know, thanks 😄

[zealous niche]

The DPS is used for a "Every base 10 of DPS you get x"

can't remember what it gives, but it's that style of star talent

[wanton obsidian]

Is this worth it crafting?

[dapper prism]

gives +% all stat

[zealous niche]

At least slab it

[wanton obsidian]

Just 1 slab tho

Is it worth sacrificing my ring?

[dapper prism]

depends on ur rolls

[wanton obsidian]

Only 10 per account ain't it?

[zealous niche]

Completing the slab demands sacrifices

You end up trading out those rings anyway so it's not such a big thing to lose one

[dapper prism]

If bobjoe has good %all stat rolls, may be worth keeping it for now

[wanton obsidian]

Yes slab sure but is it worth +1 slab for a limited resource

Ahh okay

[dapper prism]

since it can roll 1, 2.5, 4% all stat

[zealous niche]

The dungeon +all stat% is better

[wanton obsidian]

Alr

[dapper prism]

It's a keychain, not a ring?

[zealous niche]

The silver stopwatch

[dapper prism]

oh right, thought u meant all stat part

[zealous niche]

The all stat ring from dungeon is superior to the silver stopwatch is what I was attempting to say

[fallow pawn]

i wonder how many tries my bubo needs for the kruk cape

[zealous niche]

At least one

[dapper prism]

Nice for a bubo 😄

just got mine on bubo barely an hour ago

[fallow pawn]

i still need 8 more capes, saved up 23k keys for now

[random saddle]

Man how to get my drop rate above 5.4

[crisp silo]

Is that20x dr

Wth

[dapper prism]

Anyone with 20ish DR has the current bundle

[dapper prism]

Yes, new bundle is 1.20x multi.
So 10x DR would be 12x DR, or 15x would become 18x

[random saddle]

Oh dem

[dapper prism]

Then do the 1.20x 'ish from SB multi

[random saddle]

But i cant even get pass 5.4 what am i doing wrong

[dapper prism]

everything comes together, 1-2% may sound like little but each area added up comes together nicely

[crisp silo]

Thought sb applied first

[fallow pawn]

i should really up my SB kills, ive only got like 70k

[dapper prism]

not sure which applies first or if additive, just mean overall, those the only 2 options for multi DR

[fast grail]

Both are multis, doesnt matter which order they are multiplied.

[random saddle]

With dr keychain and dr cards my dr from 5.41 become 5.41

[dapper prism]

Because you're using DR chips i assume?

[random saddle]

Oh

That chip will make it cap?

[dapper prism]

It only works until 5dr. so i believe everything else will start trying to fill in the rest of what that chip did earlier.

[little pagoda]

No, it will only help you increase up to base 5, so you need to add enough DR to go past that, and at that point you can unequip the chip

You still get higher than 5 because some multipliers apply after

Mine was capping at 6.15 I think

[dapper prism]

You also get around 2.5x DR from cards+card set (when setup properly)

[little pagoda]

Then I added a bunch more and was able to eventually get past that and up to 7

[dapper prism]

The fomo keychains .75x, the bundle cape .3x etc. (all values keeping in mind that you have the other necessary things like chips)

[random saddle]

Whats setup properly

How

But how do those guy get to 20x

Keychain, cape,trophy, cards, set, obols

The new bundle

[little pagoda]

Probably that and every single other bonus in the game too lol

arcade, alchemy bubble, siege breaker talent, etc

[dapper prism]

As said, essentially that is only 12x, not 20x. and the rest if ~20% from SB and 20% from bundle

[little pagoda]

trophy doubler, keychan doubler

[dapper prism]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=Drop chance

Check all the things that give DR

basically every mechanic has stuff that gives dr

There's more than that, not sure what the wording is in insight

Just don't ignore game mechanics and you'll get it all over time

[little pagoda]

Maybe some say drop rarity

And drop rate

Funny that archers and secret class both have drop rate talents but are useless for farming drops, maybe next class they will be good who knows

[dapper prism]

they are good for bosses though

everyone has a purpose in one way or another

[little pagoda]

Yeah true, forgot you can't take advantage of ES or DK on bosses

I'm so annoyed by breeding right now

[dapper prism]

Mhm?

[little pagoda]

I have exactly 1 pet gating me from progressing in arena -> new spices -> new cooking recipes

Because I have no burger to tank hits

And they made base rate of that 1 in 100000

[wanton obsidian]

#party-finder-👪 can anyone help me and another guy do w3 dungeon? We can go until boss 1-2 but boss 3

@little pagoda

Do you wanna come

[little pagoda]

Sure I can do a run I might be able to kill it, I'm not 100% sure though

[wanton obsidian]

Let's go

[little pagoda]

let me hop on my DK

[wanton obsidian]

Balloon 4

[fallow pawn]

5k kruk keys 2 capes, this is going well

4k keys actually

[dapper prism]

Nice 😮

[hexed pine]

yall think i should unlock all the clouds first

cuz im on cloud 9

(pun intended)

[zealous niche]

Your fastest boat goes to the next cloud, everybody else farms artifacts

You’ll unlock clouds faster than you can reasonably farm them and only lock one boat away

[wanton obsidian]

Do dungeons get harder the more people?

[opaque sun]

As a mechanic their HP scales per party size

[zealous niche]

It scales a little, but not enough to make it bad to party

It’s usually better to party than not

[opaque sun]

The party benefit out scales the HP scaling

[hexed pine]

alright thanks

[opaque sun]

Unless the other 9 guys are leechers at rank 5

[zealous niche]

#party-finder-👪 is good

[wanton obsidian]

Damn I tried party with 1 guy and we got half way to boss 3 in w3

When we invited another 2 guys we only got 10%

[zealous niche]

The RNG items you get make a huge difference

[fallow pawn]

problem with w1 dungeon is, if youre in a party and people cant kill the last enemies, you wont get enough drops in a group to summon boss, even if you kill him in seconds

[crisp silo]

Always sucks when u missing drops indungeon

[hexed pine]

sometimes i wonder if that rift 8 even works

[runic girder]

Yes

[thin kernel]

wich one is that ?

[runic girder]

Idk but they all work

[crisp silo]

Roft broken?

[thin kernel]

have them all to and they work for me... not the one for rift 51.. as is not done yet XD

[runic girder]

180 orb kills

[golden cipher]

I hated the evolving skulls rifts

[tight merlin]

Easiest part lol

[golden cipher]

that seemed broken to me just because it is really random

[crisp silo]

Leave es alone on auto for a bit

[golden cipher]

really?

[thin kernel]

well you need more dps then 😄

[golden cipher]

to me they were thehardest one

[runic girder]

Sb is also a good one for it

[runic girder]

The skull mechanics are a bit weird, you need mobs to transfer the skulls to. So killing all mobs ends your streak

[tight merlin]

Bubo es sb very easy on skulls rift

[golden cipher]

I used DK with them And I was killing all mobs before upgrading the skulls

[crisp silo]

Need something with respawns for skulls

[golden cipher]

that is the point

[frosty silo]

is garbage random? just got 4 garbage. and ive upgraded more grabage thing 3 times...

[crisp silo]

Like respawn when map not clear

[crisp silo]

Yea base is 3-8

[frosty silo]

okej damn xD

[crisp silo]

I too got 4 garbage this morning

[zealous niche]

DK just doesn’t work with lava skulls

[hollow wasp]

one good thing about doing deathnote to 1m on all mobs is you get stamps u miss and enough bags for all ur chars, also you get plenty of mob drops for alchemy 😄

[crisp silo]

Alch is draining me of some mats

[hollow wasp]

i did some W1 Deathnoting over the last 2 days, got me some resources to work with

btw if i want to do these, do i do it with DK? Maestro?

or does it just not matter?

do i need these for Vman on 1m kills? xd arent they coloseum exclusive?

[zealous niche]

Minibosses you do with DK if you want to min-max

Strategy is build up some orb charge then deck the miniboss before your orb disappears

[hollow wasp]

aight i see, thanks.

[stiff prairie]

No, only stuff with deathnote. They dont have a deathnote

[hollow wasp]

oh ok i didnt check, thanks

[flint shadow]

were cogs always giving the bonus to nothing? o.0

[hollow wasp]

sowwy

[deft grail]

is DK's Shockwave proc damage based on his Squire active talent lvl?

coo

[crisp silo]

the skill multi goes crazy

plus it hits more mobs when squire shockwave lvls up

[deft grail]

i'm 245ing my active skills to try and kill rift 38

[tacit tulip]

yay fish time

[random saddle]

Can anyone share the skill build for divine knight?

[tacit tulip]

it's so beautiful

[unkempt quest]

That'll be me soon

[solid epoch]

same, gonna wait till I unlock the island to level up my bad character's fishing

https://i.imgur.com/G2yi2Do.png

might need a little more efficiency but shouldnt be hard to get since its on a combat build rn

[sand summit]

U need lvl 35 to access the island tho

[solid epoch]

rip

guess ill have to level to 35 first

[sand summit]

Indeed

I'm looking forward to boosting my vman to fishing lvl 80 or smth
As high as I can go really

[solid epoch]

yeah that'll be nice. my vman is 71 fishing rn but i got a lot of candy to use so ill prob push it to 90+

doing that might get my dmg up enough to do NM kattle easier, currently its a drag

[tacit tulip]

ah it needs 35? Thought it'd be 30 like with med fish

[solid epoch]

seems like lvl 30

[fast verge]

Anyone got an talent guide

[tacit tulip]

first point in top left skill

[sand summit]

Pretty sure it's 35 but I can't say for certain
If it's 30 it'll be easier

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/8NkgmWQ.png

[sand summit]

I swear it used to be 35

[tacit tulip]

there that's all your talents :grumblo:

30 as long as I've played at least

which is...april last year?

[sand summit]

I mean I've had this thing open for a long time now

I might have just forgotten

[solid epoch]

im doin some active beastmaster gameplay overnight 😎

getting him to lvl 425 so he can equip the necklace

[tacit tulip]

yeah, I've just finished getting everyone to 425

which starts operation "1k skilling"

I've also decided I'm gonna sacrifice my first BB and let him overtake vman for the sake of fishing cards

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/Km8NzG5.png

these will help get everyone's cooking to 50 at least lol

past that nope

[tacit tulip]

the worm talent increases BBs afk gains including exp and cards. Don't wanna go through card hell with my vman so just gonna let BB do it

[solid epoch]

hmm didnt know that, ill be sure to max that

[tacit tulip]

the downside is the exp/card gains are considerable

if you use it, BB overtakes vman effortlessly

and you lose left/right hand buffs.

[solid epoch]

yeah i need to work on my skilling cards, havent ever really worked on them

[prisma drift]

What’s the best chip setup for eclipsing?

Sorry morning brain

I meant lab chips

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/mXGYmER.png

oh

i just did the standard stuff

[prisma drift]

I think respawn/wood chips better in some slots

I’m not endgame enough so I don’t have enough candy to spare

Trying to min max it

[tacit tulip]

2x card doubles
1x neck double (divine neck)
1x keychain double (respawn speed or afk%)
fighting afk%
2x respawn or woodchip, can't remember which is better

[solid epoch]

yeah i was considering woodchip but couldnt justify taking off one of the orange ones

[tacit tulip]

the trophy doubler isn't amazing though divine trophy with double damage is nice. new afk% trophy would work well with it too

[prisma drift]

Trophy doubler useless for me

Don’t have a good fighting trophy

I’ll swap the neck doubler for 15% afk

I can’t get a cape to drop so no divine scarf

[steady beacon]

Does nobisect affect rift kills?

[tacit tulip]

scarf doesn't need cape - trophy does

[prisma drift]

Oh?

Am I stupid

[tacit tulip]

scarf needs the last merit unlock+the tooth necklace

[solid epoch]

yeah I had doubler with divine trophy so i couldnt take that off, doubler on starsigns got extra afk gains so couldnt take that off, doubled keychain I had the 10% mob respawn ones so couldnt take that off. and definitely couldnt take off the pendant doubler since thats an extra 25% afk gains

[prisma drift]

Ohhh my goood

I have 4 pendants

[prisma drift]

I can make 4 scarves

I’m just dumb

[tacit tulip]

good time to find out tho

[prisma drift]

What does the trophy give?

[solid epoch]

if u have divine scarf and divine trophy and the two fomo 10% mob respawn chains id do the chip build i sent

[prisma drift]

I don’t think 70% dmg gonna get a new multi tier

So respawn better

[tacit tulip]

yeah most likely

[solid epoch]

more often than not for me It would get a new tier but idk

[tacit tulip]

the new afk trophy is 10% afk so would work well, but the odds of getting it are tiny

and most don't even have the island unlocked

[prisma drift]

I mean for me

[solid epoch]

it depends on how many maps u do, if u really min max u could check on each map but I opted to just keep it on the whole time

[tacit tulip]

don't forget to use 4x kattle obols when doing it too

[prisma drift]

Well I’ll go play with my chips

[tacit tulip]

24% afk% is no joke

[prisma drift]

Whoa I was definitely gonna forget

[solid epoch]

since i ran through like 20 maps to eclipse

[tacit tulip]

I forgot doing my samples this week so it's on my mind

[prisma drift]

I’m gonna probably do world 1

[fast verge]

So what should I spend these on

[prisma drift]

Just for now since I don’t wanna start w2 and not finish it