#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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Storage
Out of curiosity...since these expeditions are a daily thing. Does any of you forget to collect them? :P
I personally missed a day already xD
They accumulate
You dont miss out if you dont collect one day
so the pink pet that stole you precious high roll stays top left of storage
Like a normal pet with good roll you just use him for his intended purpose
it does? haven't seen any info on that. Do we maybe know the limit?
He posted it on the future content blog
And the first claim was for 3? Days i believe
only thing to watch out is if you visit island, collect every thing before changing map/gem shop
Or else it seems to disappear
My guess is it will stack for a week and then decrease
But I havent tested or know for sure
More garbage/bottles or first stamp?
what do you mean "first claim"...so any claim past 1st doesn't accumulate?
why the red pickaxe give less eff ???
did you use stones in it?
When expeditions were released there were multiple bottles ready to be claimed
Thats what I ment
A fully upgraded tool will usually do better than a not stoned tool
so, after first claim is it a daily thing, or does it accumulate like keys?
seems to be no cap on accumulation
Should be like keys
But I dont know the limit
Not sure if game will crash on a return from 200 days hiatus
My guess , based on lavas posts, was 1 week at least
But thats just a guess
Imagine game crashes due to too many garbage objects at once, and when you return its all gone due to “changing map before claiming”
tasty garbage gains
More upgrades than I get trash per day 
nice
I was kinda testing the card game in gaming and it looks like clicking on non-skull cards yields better results than clicking on where skull was shown.
In latter scenario, i often got skull on first draw where only 1 or 2 skulls are seen, while in former i usually get quite far (never got skull on first so far I think)
but you're fine crafting daily stuff for post office?
Think it's lava apologising for taking all my bottles day 1 :p
having the pet that gives chest access from anywhere, Lava could make quick craft possible :P (requiring pet I suppose)
oso don't buy the bottle in gem shop when standing in omar place
i bought them all but nothing appear

Log game shuffle i think was coded specifically to be just cosmetic and where it actually lands is a separate process
They get auto added
wait so it's a flat 10 bottles and not 10 floating bottles ?
for 40 total if you buy all 4 yeah
Yeh lol

right 2 days and it'll be time to make fishing level explode 😄
No shimmer island?
nah going fish first
Why? Except xp the fish wont be used for quite a while
yeah, quest is the goal. Get a bigger bottle multi, sooner
as well as recover my hard resources 10%
Fair
also new fishing card too
Seasalt offers a slight more bonus to bottle speed due to the lv90 fishing quest
I'm also a sucker for getting the 1k mastery bonuses
25% exp is nothing sure, but it feels nice to finish
So its like comparing 10-14 more bottles for getting fish island first, or like 2 weeks worth of shimmer upgrades
also i guess fishisland allows you to start getting their cards
shimmer island, seasalt island. Both are comparable choices as 2nd island.
Buy crystal 
Trust me its totally worth it 
be the champ to unlock islands from left to right
If I’m grinding lampars at level 216 and get 1.5 billion exp per hour is it good
Not really that much for lampara I believe
Bur that depends on what cards etc youre rocking
My active build with ass afk gain gets 120 billion /hr there on afk info
Keep in mind I’m about to change my preset and I’m level 216
Exp is a poor metric for progress at any rate
1.5b xp/hr must be pretty low kph
A full afk guy getting 400 billion/hr at lampars
Base kills, afk%, respawn sped, and grind time are probably the main factors
I’m mostly pushing to kruk how much health he have?
baby kruk has 100 bil
HUH
is there a cap for respawn speed ?
So id say 1.5 billion/hr at lampar is kind of bad
1.5b/hr is around 1600-1700 kph
Not factoring any multipliers
chaos kruk is 2500bil and nightmare is 1000 tril
So you must be killing less than that most likely
So 2m kills will take you like 700hrs + ?
No multipliers included ofc
To clarify on what I said earlier - exp is a poor indicator of account progression
The two really big factors of getting an idea where you are is sheet damage and your print sizes. If you can increase these two things, your progression will accelerate
If you're pushing w5 without multikill you're likely approaching this wrong, consider focusing on w1-5 skills (alchemy in particular) before pushing deeper
early game speaks in class levels, mid game speaks in damage, late game speaks in samples (efficiency), end game speaks in some arbitrary stat that no one else cares
how to get this achievement when this thing is on
You respec your vman and take it off
any tips for higher build rate and exp on my DK
alchmy big bubble
thats going rlly slow got low prints
Get higher prints then 
Follow me for more daily tips and tricks
you could play some cog clicker
nah you're approaching this right, exp is king
Always use call me bob bubble on DK
If you can make red cogs fast (use your DK for this) consider sitting there and spamming cogs to get some better exp cogs, particularly the ones that point directly at the DK
i have sheepie
the flat exp% and the ones that point at a character are separate exp pools, and multiply each other
Theres also a page that optimizes the build for you
Cogtimizer i believe ?
Maybe someone here has that link
on the note of cogs
I'm almost free from flaggy hell
Hmm my partner is travelling for work this week
might steal her pc and do some cog clicker
what is this buff
to speed up her construction 😄
nothing?
It's exactly what it says it is... 😄
so nothing?
yeah

knowing lava it probably boosts the new nothing island or something, but I suspect he's not that crazy
Also grab her cc and get yourself doot 
That would be a great idea
Just wait for trading and then trade it to you for a bean
Cooking might be the other thing, she hasn't optimised since vman
Huge gains to be had there
Ive been focussing on cooking more lately
Speed Really took off
But Vman talent is still not that great for me as my total levels are still pretty low unfortunately
nothing in cog used to be the bugged choice of “class exp” that never worked, and lava renamed it to “nothing” instead of removing that option
nah he will charge you for that if he was fucking
Top bird has had some heat these last couple days 
Idk if I just miss all your other messages or just on a hot streak
i still don't get how captain recruitment works
You buy a captain and then Put him on a boat to work for you without pay
ok how do i um
Captains are basically slaves, damn Lava.
like u know when it says resets in bla bla bla
how i put them in my boat
from how i understand it
i have to put them on the deck first
and then when it resets they reset
and i get to use them is that it
Reset Boat - Remove Captain - Delete/Move Captain - Place New Captain in Empty boat
ohhh
The reset is for your rotation
Everday you get up to 4 new choices of captains to purchase
ah i see
yea i get it now
so if i trash them right now
would i get a new captain on the deck
or do i have to wait for it to reset
I'd like it if the captain screen showed me the Island it was going to. As when they all set off after a Claim, I can't see who's who lol
this is basically wut everything in sailing looks like rn
@tacit tulip ayo how's going
So you need to buy a captain, who then walks around the decking, you then select the captain and then select the specific boat you want him in
ok how do i buy one
On the right, the 4 on the pillars, select one - shows stats and the Dollar sign to buy
oo alright
guys the trash amount each day i just random? first day i got 14, i buy twice the 20% and now i got 5 trash? wtf is that?
It will then show an empty pillar and the captain walking around
ohhh that's how
yea yea i see it now thanks a lot
oh and i can buy more captain slots
i see now
thanks a lot for the help bro
All good 😉
Agreed 
what cards are best for redeeming souls at msat?
Food/all eff
Then wis increases
ty
You can also snapshot Card Chance when you come into W3 town
equip card chance before entering w3 town
then swap to all eff?
didnt even know that was a mechanic lol
can u do that for farming mobs too?
nice :3
dayum
Sakori ignored my ping 
dmg stonk :3
oh naww
500m =>600m XD
Pfft I emoted to it!
Yep, I do it with ES when farming a mob

quick question wut type of treasure did u set ur boats on
unlocked wisdom ty
like u know where u can choose wut type of chests u want
wonder how far ahead you got of me in the time we last compared atleast i think we did once

Gimme a min and I'll refresh my ie
Ignore the slush I'm lazy 😄
chest type? i set minium chest
i have 700 more stamps lvls 
oh okey then
I am, after all, the world's laziest gamer
and i got 5x of your anvil speed 
I only actually did my anvil points last week 😄
idk how you got 4.9m anvil speed 
and 0.76%
i got almost 10m on archer 
keep in mind that public profiles don't show pets - so it doesn't think I have anvil bubble on
disappointed in w1 stuff 
it doesn't?
hm
well then sorry
Your better at anvil by 1m
i haven't done all anvil quests to this day only cash ones 
i have a question, guys focus on speed , exp or carry?
Depends safe is speed
speed mostly
ok good i thought i was doing something wrong for a sec
But if you don't check often you waste
If you have post-endgame level of anvil speed from bubbles, cap
i hate it when i put points in the wrong talents
But else speed is king, exp is ass
i have 500 points, then i divided 3 for all
I would use idleon effeciency to get storage to 24 hours until full rest speed.
Like in w6, 7, 8, cap is going to be more important i can see as the limit of production will be more of your cap size
You'll find legitimate reasons to be disappointed in me, don't worry
what you putting your alchemy particles in?
i can't find 😩
i gotta look at your partiles income 
whats your bob exp% at?
negative champ
sakori have 530%
lol thanks
i got 2.36k
nicce
i just started pushing it up to about 1k in a few days
speed
aint no way
pretty strong samples @tacit tulip
if not the fact that i have 3 choppers you definitely would have better gains
so close to 40mil
mine like 250m/h i think
my sb been catching up to my bubo's dmg so much
yours almost 400m
bro how is my sb catching up to almost everything on my bubo
they legit got like 100 lvs differencw
SB is a strong damage scaler
dayum
does atom production cap out in usefulness at some point? like if you have enough atoms to fully spam into alchemy each day
You'll never max out the collider bonuses so they'll always be useful
i guess so, but more "useful in a diminishing return" kinda way? im thinking at your sample rate you can afford to level whatever in alchemy? so even if you doubled samples it wouldnt massivly change progress?
maybe i will take a week to reset and focus on speed @@!
my new archer @@!
pretty sure we close in progress @tacit tulip
Seems that way
i guess i am as lazy as you
you only finish collider when you can farm like 1e30 ish worth of particles to finish the power of 10 atom
easy

yall think pushing with sb is good
no
In w8 when threads making 1e25 particles per second
aight
Where's them ruby cards at? 
i can't beat rift

so I heard the new gem pack gives an account wide drop rate buff what is that?
started the ruby grind on ES yesterday, wasnt as bad as i expected, was gettign about 1000 cards per 40 min
dr x 1.2 ish
It's 1.2
yeah nice, i bought it and didnt even notice that lol
probably small bonus
account wide its not bad at all
max book lvl is 245 right?
who u winning agaisnt
doesnt the companion put it higher?
ah thanks
so thats actually better than raising the level cap ? (i mean unless your a vman)
Means you don't need to book those maxed skills again haha
yep 🙂
@tacit tulip btw i wonder how your sample is so high
you sampled with ruby cards?
you have 3 vials more maxed than me doubt that's diffirence of 100m on sample
and i got better alchemy progress overall
kinda curious if that's ruby card thing or i did something wrong while resampling
why does my construction speed keep fluctating between like 150k-250k
i got both my squires afk in lab
and havent changed anything on either of them
remove every cog on ur board that isnt construct exp
remove all chars from board that arent squires
i did
lacking construct exp else where then idk
it's just squire in there
this is my board atm
yea he said levels are important
but my cogboard isn't all unlocked
so maybe das why
iduno
yea it looks about like thid
it's just that the build rate looks different than mine
and i don't have zen cogs too lel
they're all like close to lv 100
only other thing i can think is
call me bob bubble
and carpenter bubble
my carpenter is lvl 40
u mean the big one
bob is 36
go check em for me
also as high as i can
aight
i might as well just send u my whole ie
hope u don't be like
"wut is ur squire doing..."
do u have 2 squires?
i made my third warrior barb i think
do you guys use speed to flags?
i alr got 10
kinda addictive, I've swapped out a lot of exp ones for them
nah i dont bother lol
@wary girderhttps://leoissed.idleonefficiency.com/ here bro
it might be worth it though just to get more exp cogs on board
oh wait maybe it's the red salts that im lackin
but I could be losing a lot of exp
dang i don't know who u talkin to but ur welcome
you
i was asking why my build rate kept changing
but it was my red salts getting used up
ill check ie in a sec
aight
i swear one lil thing in idleon makes like the biggest changes
also don't mind my characters names
i was bad at naming back then
@hexed pine dude, bubo CC till you finish alchemy unlocks
i don't get this sentence
mind making it easier to understand bro
if ur talking about my cc
i just did
ye ur carpenter and bob are higher levels than mine
how many salts u got
i only got like 50k
i think
bro, active your bubo some place with lots of enemies and let the cranium cook thing make cualdrons go brrrr
i already did
did the ie not update that bruv
i got like 22k only
you unlocked all bubbles?
ur alch for the most part is more progressed then mine
cc your bubo, its not a once a day thing, it cools itself down in like 20 minutes
the green and yellow one aint yet
20 minutes????
dawg u sure
the ability that gives time per kill, also affects cc
dude... you dont have to wait 50k becuase bubo gives cooldown per kill
he dont have 200 tent
also, use the bubble, it shouldnt be starting at 50k
bubo cc existed before tent 200 was possible, its fine
u mean this one bro
yea
man ur way further into the game then me idk how ur construct speed is as slow as it is lol
oh so it has a chance for cc to cooldown if 100 percent?
it's just like that sometimes
it jsut takes 2 secs off each time you kill, but bubo kills A LOT
so does it have chance even for 60 percent
@quiet pewter what are the best maps for the bubo to CC on, i got like 20mil dmg on mine atm
whichever the highest of these you can one shot with posion: staches w3 cans w4 weird jelly fish thing w4, oranges w5 wurms w5
dang didn't realise i raised almost 10mil dmg in two days
most progress i did in a while
champion ty
yeah so every enemy you kill 60% chance to take 2 sec off every cooldown
book it higher if you can
used to thought that u can't cooldown cc cuz that would probably be a bit too op
day _ in asking for free autoloot in pets update
but ngl, 3 secs tenteyecle really is noticeable
50% faster so i would hope so
Why do bubos use stingers it’s weak asf
brev want me to transfer u the like $5 for autoloot LOL
Cause aura needs to spread
btw bro use this https://monoblos.github.io/cogtimizer/
was wondering, did you guys needed the last God's sailing bonus to reach the last few islands?
purple flags 
what other gloves can i use cuz i think the bandages are for beginner
stringers good
i didnt think id be as much of a whale as I am but this game is honestly worth a bit of investment
dont b disappointed
death enjoyer just makes fun of you @hardy bloom
i spend 400$ sth but flags aren't worth it
you would get maxed board in a year or so 
oww i thought there was something i missed. cuz before, i didnt knew that the calss assigned for the skilling boots was "ALL"
i honestly had a dumb amount of gems from one of the events
and just spent it on random shit
after all the prio stuff ofc
still not worth it
thanks for the generosity, but since lava said he'll add free autoloot for all then it will surely come... right? 
when he said 


i doubt he will add free autoloot when he can get 5$ for it 
A new prayer to ignore
how long
2 hours
kinda as much as it took me to reach 120 goblins
what's the username that you have to enter?

copy ur raw json data from ie
then just paste
The 120 boss took 45 minutes lol. I could have sold / readjusted towers but I was expecting to die before 130 so I didn't bother. Just went AFK and got breakfast.
any reason whyy i should 4star all these cards? (farming the 1m deathnote kills for vman rn)
i went sleep when pushing goblins so its same expirience
Your first character's name. It is the name displayed on your PUBLIC IE profile
wtf is cogtimizer
it doesn't match my acc
Cogtimizer sucks though. I highly recommend not using it lol
if u want something that does all the work for u then i dont see the problem
it got me to 250k construct speed and im new to w5
I mean, have you uploaded a public IE profile? Has it been updated recently?
Cogtimizer doesn't calculate any of the Directional cogs properly, which is like 95% of the setup you aim for
ive double checked most of my directional ones and they all seem pretty fine but maybe youre right
i think the whole point of construction cogs just get high your squire and then get cogs later on
yep. don't matter tho. the json works
the website is buggy with usernames thats why i suggested just using json
is there anyy reason why we would 4star all W1 cards?
set bonus
in #💖future-content-blog Lava mentioned "Double... something... (one of the currently 12 available upgrades throughout Island Expeditions)"; which upgrade he talked about? cant find the one on the wiki
w1 set bonus is ass isnt it
isn't its best skilling bonus?
Wouldnt prioritize it
But it looks ugly at some poiint for sure
Thats easy resource set bonus
oh i thought thats w1 set
W1 has XP below lvl 50 lol
problems is i hate IE, but i dont hate it.
i rly want this view for all my chars on 1 screen, and not need to tab between all chars seperatly. like list all chars below each other and the bags on the right side from it and gray out the bags i dont have on these chars
wow i got mega lucky
is the computer is bad, is there any way to lower anything to make it drains les RAM and stuff?
game is using 1.5GB of ram from my 6GB
im on my office laptop rn i bought 10 years ago
i play on windows 7 lol
ye it works but the laptop is hella slow
for a year or more
my RAM is 5GB/6GB and i can feel it xd
Download some more ram
im at work rn and i wanna do some active progress
kinda not playing daily after most of the guys i challanged left
@tacit tulip i beat you 
so i dont care about p2w stuff
i was talking here before and challanging 2 guys
one left cause the game taken too much time other because sailing rollback
It was actually good to keep progressing to not be left behind alot
idk challange me 
Login to game for alchemy progress
my alchemy is giga bad too
long journey foe you to go
Does anyone have a DK with less than 1 in 20 crystal spawn chance that could post me their IE spawn chance stats? want to see where it's all coming from
i would check but doubt that
cards- some stamp
idk if there's more than that
card doublers
Star talent?
Cards and star talent have a cap
So its stamp, shrine and something i forgot
Nvm, PO has a cap as well
So only variables are stamp and shrine
Thats not possible currently. 1 in 26 is the lowest crystal spawn available for non vman classes
Maybe 1 in 25 if you have a very high shrine level
ahh that makes sense, I saw some figures thrown around and I assumed it was for DK
Vman can get 1 in 9. Rest are stuck at 1 in 26
Don’t forget the chizoar card that increases shrine effects
I was scratching my head how it's possible to go down to like 12-15 on DK but that clears it up, thank you.
Thats passive
Oh forgot about that
I'm missing 1 card doubler and a loooot of shrine levels
eyo, silver pens where and how u farm it? i have chocolatey chip
i get them from afk 
How do you collect the message bottles?
well i get more than atom takes so its fine for my gameplay style
Dk on bloodbones
IdleonToolbox is a little better at showing full family comparisons
Looks like there is some RNG when it comes to bottles too. I got 12 bottles this morning when I am supposed to get 7 per day
Its ~7
Bloodbones are kinda ass for other rewards though. You may as well just farm W1 Bored Beans and get worthwhile statues, or W2 Sandy Pots for Glass Shards and Dice obols if you still need them. You'll get a steady stream of Pens regardless
Though ive gotten the exact amount twice now
But for pens im right?
Lile purely for pens
Why anyone would ever farm PURELY for pens is beyond me
You'll get more than you ever want to humanly use while farming for other things that actually help your account
just farm and pens will come on their own
as scoli already said....you will soon get so many pens that you would need an ac to use them all
Do you have 100k in myriad?
I would easily have over 100k in Myriad if I spent those pens, yes
So no you don't for now lol
Farming more pens doesn't speed up me not using them 😂
Myriad is worth maxing out
I disagree lol
Half the box value is around 13k out of 100k
I can almost guarantee I get more value out of anything else than the time it takes to redeem pens for 87k more boxes
shrug
wich plates are the best to focus on top 5?
myraid box is just crate dump bin after maxing everything
Probably the 5 cooking speed meals, though it is beneficial to level all meals
Egg, Corndog, Cabbage, Soda, Cherries
Honorable mention to Turkey, if you have the sailing artifact
best way is checking ie for which meal takes the least amount of time/laddles and switch meals around
unless you dont have a vman
in which case.....go to other chat^^
bloodbones where do i find these, w3 right
ye thats what i was looking for. ty
above rams, who is above mustache
I'd vote don't bother. W1 Bored Beans or W2 Sandy Pots are better overall active farm targets and will still provide nearly the same amount of pens
Bored Beans for mining, chopping, feasty, and crit statues, plus w1 leaves for Choppin efficiency, plus Golden Nommiches for Golden Apple stamp, plus Hotdogs for making Peanuts and Golden Peanuts for mining efficiency.
Sandy Pots if you need any Dice Obols / Glass Shards for the Mason Jar stamp.
you can't unlock them by few 1h candies??
how's your cooking speed?
i think i can
Quick question, if somebody unlocks all islands, what happens with the excess bottles?
nuget cake been birthday crabs right
probably nothing you keep getting them
its like you ask what happens with ladles if you max out all meals

nope
Yes
Its was just an example
Oh fair enough
And why wouldn't you keep getting them if you maxed content
Idk
if i have infinity star signs and equip one again, do i get double the bonus from that one?
Questions us humans were never meant to ask
Decent, not maxed
What happens when you double infinity?
and how exactly does the chip work that doubles star sign boni? does it double ALL infinity star signs?
or only the equiped ones
The chip only doubles equipped signs
dies from needing to know
aww, guessed that, would have been way to strong, thank you!
If a sign is infinite, the only thing equipping it does is let it be doubled by the chip
all right, thanks a lot
so is there a way to increase bottle count besides the island upgrades?
how does it work, i have 5.6x droprate, when theres something with a dropchance of 20k, is it 1/3571 ?
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They serve different purposes. Kruk Helm and Boots provide Drop Rate, but worse damage and less total stats than Magma.
Kruk Shirt and Pants provide Monster Respawn, but again worse damage and less total stats than Magma.
But isn’t the dmg different so minor
Fo all u mentioned
Depends on your stage of the game. It gets more drastic the stronger you are.
Hmm maybe the eldrich crystal stake i just got will make different
But when will dmg be better than spwan rate
And dr
DK, Bubo, and Skill samplers don't care about respawn
AFK Gmush or Deathnote farmers don't care about Drop Rate, same with skill samplers
Bubo just wants pure stats for money gains
what's site?
its a google doc, you have to put the levels in yourself, its in the "tips and tricks" channel
get skilling bubbles to 90%
what are all the sigil effect boosting sources again? the artifact is for up to x6 at eldritch rank, but i think there was another x2 not related to artifact was there not?
Woops, misread that.
no worries
i dont mean charging speed / rate
im talking about the effect multiplier, like you get from the sailing artifact
nah only from artifacts afaik
i could swear ive recently seen a new source that gives x2 but mabye im tripping balls
Besides the gold on peapod sigil, I don't think so
hmm
thats also charge rate
I went to check Idleon insight and just saw that. I'll check before I post from now on =p
finally started the ruby card grind, isnt as bad as i thought, i can get around 1000 cards every 40 minutes on ES
Start with getting the wisdom bubbles 2 and 3 to 90%, then the wisdom tool bubble to 90%, log samples are generally higher than mine so can make more atoms
1 hour 8 nuget cakes, good or bad?
when you guys get the 6 roll in the ball arcade, which tilt do you choose
thanks for advice
bad. you can get one in a couple minutes on ES
is that your active ES rate?
yep. 5.6x droprate
that kind of dr make sense
but 8 in 1 hour is a few minutes for one
ah ok, at that dr its more reasonable. im at 13 dr. are your cards built fully for DR? you want as much dr as possible on ES< not dmg
6 in 1 hour would make 1 every 10mins
yeah its fine for your DR, but you could do with bringing your dr up
well i still dont have my total drop rate cards maxed, i only have my card drop rates maxed
card drop snap shots on map entery, dont run card rate all the time :/
ouch
dude
that zero star mimic
how many cards to level it XD
ES portal buff is a multiplied bonus, so your base DR matters a lot
Which class are best for dps shimmer island? DK or ES or the ther classes?
do you get multiple tries at it?
I don't know, i'm too afraid to try 
You can go hit the dummy whenever you want
then, the answer to your question, is both
Nice
wth why 2 of my eclipse gone? red mushrrom and bored bean is eclipse before?
Good to know, thanks
prolly vman
Speedrun maybe?
ah yea all my vman kill becomes 2M wth
Using the V-Man portal fucks with the deathnote, you should try to get eclipse with anything that isn't V-Man
yeah noted, im gonna let my vman rot in fishing till 500
probably takes only 40 years
Hey wanna ask this again, i was getting 4 bottles /day and now its up to 6bottles/day but I have no clue how it increased. I have shimmer and garbage islands and got 0 from shimmer due to bug and in garbage i upgraded the +garbage per day not the daily bottle increase
It could be the guys quest
The NPC at the docks increases the amount of bottles earned for how far into his quest you are
omarr quest reward , it's +10% bottles per quest done
the gem pack also increases your dailies
ah thanks a bunch. didnt realize it was a reward anywhere
by I tink 30%
need to get to lvl90 fish asap then 🙂
if you have the fish island it's quite easy
bottles do, not sure about trash
👌
hmm, my partners account can't hit purple hard fish on vman, sadge
need to figure out where she's missing her eff
Is using DK actively will net him more cons xp?
Golden food is really strong
Yeah gave her that, she's just lazier than me
yes but less than you'd think. There s abug where active character gets reduced cons exp
active dk
active BB
non active warrior
Does snapshot obol still work?
I'm far too lazy to know that
My DK only lv 256 at cons so low
I swear this feels slower than w5 was
I have an average DR of 6 and have 6 chars on suggmas, at 71 mil kills on death note with no recipe dropped
Is that just really bad RNG?
Or is that normal?
sakori can answer that
To not have to have lab 2.0 but it's suggmas instead?
Feels bad
I'm aware
Odds could just be slightly better
some ppl farmed enough to have like 4k iirc of the rare drop from suggmas b4 they got the pattern
Idk the equation for finding out how much your odds increase based on DR
I have 6.0 and it's 1/50,000,000
About to break 1000, have spent a bunch as well
Cool, thank you
@tacit tulip would be the best to discuss the odds of w5 gloves tho
I have 150 mil stiltmole kills, I'm not worried about that
But still crazy
6.0 DR changes the odds to 1/8,000,000 if I'm not stupid
Is there a specific level I should get my guys div before pulling them out? I know stick with div until goat so I can return to lab but for my bb I'm looking at pulling him out when I get nobi and just occurred to me there might be an xp milestone I'd want to hit first
Im going for 100
at 40 you unlock tranqi which gives you div exp even not in altar/lab
ultimetly you want them lvl 40, with 1 to have reached lvl 80(iirc) for the quest
I have all gods, only one char at div 80, still have 4 chars meditating
Hmm and at 12 xp/hr that is gonna be... a while
come back after working on some cooking and other div exp gain sources
at 15 you can put everyone on mantra
What style are your chars using?
FURY ELDRITCH FINALYYYY
Just guessing xp still low level as I'm at that first week in w5 point still, half still below 10
and snail lv 11 pretty good
I need atom upgrade lv2 to maintain snail at lv10 right?
atom upgrade ? 😮
oh i might have not unlocked it yet
Its the last one
oh yeah
why do i feel like gaming garden takes forever, im at 9.33B(green) bits, gonna take forever to get snail
I feel personally attaked
Gaming has so many bit multis locked behind RNG
When I was getting 4-5 bil a day I saved for snail, took a while but worth. Esp with bad nugget luck
im only at 12,533 nuggs but lv153 on luck
i have 26400
do the extra evolutions for plants from superbits work?
lv 210 shovel
yes but with really low odds
i just dont know what i should be leveling up at this point, save for snail i guess?
is there a strat to get there? been keeping kitsune on overnight and whatnot and left 1 of each lvl 4 plants there...didnt lvl up in the past 2 days
I'm farming w2 crystal mobs on DK for dice obols. trying to get sparkles now that I finally finished gold squares. but my limiting factor now seems to be obol fragments, any tips where I can get more of that?
rng being rng really
Yo bud
Kills are a poor way to check this. Drop rate reduces the number of kills you need, but multikill and kill per kill also don't contribute towards rare drops. ES portal kills aren't counted as kills on the death note, either.
Royal ashes are the best way to get an eyeball on the issue. They're 1000x more likely to drop than the recipe so, on average, a normal player will get it at about 1000 drops. Obviously you'll spend some on stamps, but its as close to an estimate you can get
The real problem is the rarity of the item itself. being 1/50mil drop rate, it's quite heavily subject to statistical variance. Some players might get it very quickly (like my wife)
Some of us cry because of how many ashes it took
kk just wanted to make sure that im not wasting time. found an old reddit thread from when the max log book entries were 36
odd to get to rank 5 is x20 harder than rank 4
yeah so i thought if plants rank to 4 in a few hours, surely id get some 5s in 48^^
W2 crystals are one of the best sources for fragments already. Trash all the circles and any overflow dice. W1 crystals can be slightly better, but drop mostly bronze tier so you have to trash quick or they fill up fast
but as you said, rng being rng there
gotcha thanks
2 more days and larry is done
For boss drops, does it roll multiple times for the drop or is each kill 1 roll for the each drop?
god, 200 rounds in pet arena without anything to act as a hp reducer on enemies is ridiculous. like trillions of health? unnecessary imo
this is why i love and hate about rng progresion. i was doing the strategy on divinity where u use the left option till u get 100% option and i used the gitf (10%) and i got the god but when i do 50% and 25% multiple times i cant get the god
Sorry for bad quality, I don't have discord on PC. I just decided to start to push a fully neglected character through W5. Its my 10th character and they have only ever done divination and lab, all I did was cards and talents.
I honestly didn't think that I was getting so many stats from things like alchemy and stamps. 26,000 kills an hour on suggmas while wearing efaunt is wild to me
My next lowest leveled char is 390, this is a fully neglected character
for active DK, after drop box and mana box anything I should prioritize next? construction box?
Drop box
Nvm i cant read
You got the 2 damage boxes?
only the first one, tbh forgot about the second one
Hp box for meatshank or the one giving multikill/tier might so be good
Though mk isnt as important on dk
awesome, thanks for the help
man ive been farming this for months lol
Did you try ES farming and leaving it over night? I know only 1 person who didn't get it within 3 nights who had decent drop rate
Just let the game play its self and go to sleep best cure for the recipe
i used DK and got on night 3 with 12x drop rate
DK is decent but for those who just want the recipe and dont care about the other misc stuff ES is for sure the way to go (not to mention that it will help with the suggma vile)
well now you know one person lol I left my es there for i think 8 days active before I got it
and that was at 13x dr
Same
Going for t5 or t6 plants?
I wrote some info on T6's here: #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
But allas I don't know who you are 
you got me
Whats your damage like? If you P2W for all DR you might be missing on the damage department leading to low portal kills
so youre focusing one upgrade after the other? might go about it like that from 4->5 aswell...
Doesnt fully matter, it's technically the same thing. But at some point you have to focus them specifically.
Either way that's with 10x t5's going for t6's
My ES on dr build was like 600B
There's a calculator somewhere that shows you how long it will take on average btw
wow, ima search for that one
no access :/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IugLhT0s9m6Sk7a3tcyoY_kfPONUK3GRFfgOK86g9cQ/edit?usp=sharing
Access Google Sheets with a personal Google account or Google Workspace account (for business use).
? It doesn't have any perms though?
Here is the ES calc make a copy and go wild
Credit to Gnakor cant find the og link for it
~banned ? 🙂
You need to select to enter end game chat
That's just the endgame chat, then you didnt select it in #👀read-me or wherever
thanks
Also either way, don't focus T6's to early. you got chems right?
nah, im only on my way to t5, not there for the t6 yet
no chems
today i've been working on finishing w5 constellations so i can get the achievement
I 100% forget to turn this in at the end of the week 
then thinking of doing a speed run
Ah, for t5's its a lot easier, just keep cat on, and really focus on unlocking chems, click that research button non stop any time u can pretty much
i usually go for something between 1.7 and 2%, would you suggest clicking even harder?
% is won't tell me anything without knowing the plant, but the main thing is "how many genes/dna" you are saving up for
How high do you let this go?
https://i.imgur.com/nuKWta7.png
usually click at this point as this is what i get from harvesting the garden 1-2 times
Ma fck my weekly reset 
100ish genes is still fine, but compare it at like 40-50 genes when you can for yourself. Since there's diminishing returns on stuff clicking research every time u claim plants can be better odds per gene
yeah i think thats around my sweetspot, thanks for the input!
Damn first time I pulled up the Guidesheet since the pet update,, didn't realize they shut it down I'll miss it for sure.
Ahh it was remade xD nice
can someone chear me up with new fishing exp screenshots, as i dumdum unlocked crystal island
Crystal, thats rough 😦
unlocked it then opened discord and saw was like "NOO!!!!!!!!"
So many people took crystal first
7 days now until new unlocked, wont be pulled on tonights contest
Kind of surprising
still dont know why i did, dont know what i was expecting there
Theres the guide sheet you could use
im too quick to pick, really need to slow down and wait for advise lol
you know give it a day or 2 to sick in then pick something
Hi Guys, can someone whose ingame Name Starts with the letter "p" Help me Out with a Quest and Go to w1 town, server: Cookie 1 and write into public chat "1 star, game sucks!" ? 🙏
Crystal 1st )im joking dont thats last)
Got my sprinkler finally
Didn’t even need to give it a day or 2, could have looked in discord like 30 mins after update drop and could have figured out what to get
Hey yall, I just got to world 5 yesterday, have everyone in divinity except bubo, and have gotten 3 gods so far, with everyone linked to bear. Should i keep people on divinity until i get more gods? Should I push? Should I farm?
farming Silver PEns with DK at Bloobones ye? and i want a as high crystal spawn chance as possible, right?
If you just got to w5, you almost certainly need to go back to previous worlds and do the things you missed. Get all stamps, level stamps, work towards unlocking all bubbles, level bubbles, re-sample often. Stay in gods until you get goat, then send peeps back to lab for a while to be able to do 6 man lab setup
i would recommend using bubo on socks
thats how i got mine
Crusty socks 
here
What's it like having doot? I'll never know so I must live vicariously through others with doot.
Awesome, thank you!
i have no idea where these ar,e W5?
ye
last area of w5
they kinda to strong for me i think then
lol
my ES is my strongest char and has no multikill on citringes
and this is my furthest map
ahh yeah no lol not even close
so bloodbones would be a better thing for me
kinda a big jump between the last 2 zones
w1 beans is best map for dk crystals, do that instead then
you mainly want the crystals in general
w1 beans will get you a lot of various other materials
but why did someone said bloodbone then
if you don't have the inventory slots for that or want to micrcomanage, blood bones are fine
any active on dk will give a lot, beans if you need statue levels, I like snelbies if you need obols
yes, w1 crystals gives the best food (hotdogs for golden peanuts) and best statues, and the food you need for gold food stamp (sandwich) so they are
overall
i could work on inventory slots thats not it
but thats not looking to good atm xd
oops
they used to be the best before lava changed the beans map
let me upgrade material and food bag
if you can get a good food/material bag go beans, otherwise yeah blood bones/snelbies if you need obols still
then move them?
oh well pop obols are only gigafrog
get pop obols after dice
just move the pop obols to dk
you want to get it too this
remember too reroll
this is my ES obols rn
reroll at lower levels for the extra 1% DR
yeah go afk snelbies with your DK lol
do i move the pop obols to my DK and farm dice?
ye sure
im at work for 2 more hours
i can active afk here alot
and then i still want crystal spawn rate high
?
or drop chance only
I checked back about every hour to change my obols into fragments
crystal spawn rate high yeah
does drop rate affect card drops or just card drop rate
best i can do rn on DK
do you have choco chip?
yepy
make sure to 2x the demon genie and poop cards
Drop rate does affect cards IIRC and is better than card drop rate in general but you can use both if really shooting for cards.
do you have genie and poop cards equipped, and card doublers on them if you have them
I notice your post office is at 0, make sure to max that box as your DK gets pens
i managed to get my carry cap higher, do i go on beans like this now?
oh no it was snelbies for dice, im bad
i have 5.82x drop rarity, chocolatey chip and 1:144 crystal spawn chance, is fine?
maybe use ES to farm up poop to 4star for higher crystal chance?
Poop and genie
yeh id still like to see the odds lol
they are so horrendous. the encourage should be improved a lot more like 100x
Nah if you’re under your min atom level but close (13 and min is 15 for example) then it doesn’t hurt to play it safe and get the chance over 50% until you hit 15
do i let the mutations keep growing or is it best to just harvest everything as soon as it grows
yeah thats kind of what i was thinking
DK at blood will definetely give you more pens than bubo at wurms, but either has secondary benefits. bloodbones will give a lot of obol frags, whereas bubo = CC progress (and now also keys for kruk)
Although ever since vman change i active DK at wurms, feels more beneficial
well but worms im not even close to be there
still at citringes
with my ES
my BB is at stiltmoles, my DK never even seen w5 more than the town
BB doesn;t need to push much.
Main people you care about reaching the end is Bubo and DK
Bloodbone for the w3 crystals who have the best drop ratio for feasty too
What's the fastest way to increase your gaming bits?
HUZZAH! just got cape # 2
Depends where you are, what you have. But biggest thing will be unlocking chemical mutation (and later on Snail, and 5Q superbit multiplier)
Whats the star talent on shimmer? Worth puttin em into it?
Yay just got 5 free Cosmic candy 😄
lol how?
IS Reward
Getting to snail is my issue rm
Got 5Q superbit multi"
Level 1 grass is over 4M green. It'll take a few weeks at least, but save up for snail?
Get 500m green per big claim cant get to the bils fast
Achievement multiplier is pretty solid afaik
I'm pushing both bubo and DK to worms (afk, so the kills count for both the quest and portal), it sounds like once they're there both are viable active?
yes
bubo for cc but dk for keys?
You'll probably do Bubo active first for a bit, for CC and money is slightly better
DK is good once you get orb stacks to like at least 600-700+
Will be amazing af XP too
DK for more keys and construction progress, Bubo for less keys but CC alc progress
Lots of gold hampters, money, XP, the whole bang




