lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[north juniper]

I mean you could steal it from a landfill...kind of weird though...

jk

[simple coral]

gotcha - good to know it increase max at least. Still random odds 😅

tyty

[regal tapir]

tried that already... didn't work ☹️

[north juniper]

Oh I can help. The ones near me have a few entrances and you can get in there for sure.

Disclaimer: I do not condone illegal acts

[north pecan]

yes

[vagrant mountain]

where is the summer event?

[rustic garnet]

How did you have enough trash for the stamp? What was the trash cost?>

[north pecan]

it was like 20. you get some when you go there for the first timee

[versed cypress]

first stamp is like 20 trash so you can get lucky with the drop and get it

[fervent brook]

Guess I should save up for the legendary fish island

[rustic garnet]

ah you can get higher trash rolles?

[north pecan]

oh wait so it's chance to drop only?

[versed cypress]

seems to be random

no you buy the stamp andyou should get it

the random drop is the ammount of trash inthe island

[untold saffron]

what does the stamp do?

[north pecan]

then mine wwas really bugged

[rustic garnet]

have you checked with teh stamp guy?

[versed cypress]

the first stamp is the one with the image of the skele fish right

[rustic garnet]

also -- how many stacks of 'trash go brr' are ya'll doing before buying the other stuff?

[north juniper]

I'm going to do a few to ramp up the amount I get

[cold jackal]

can you only get trash once a day?

[versed cypress]

probably untill i get 2x or 3x so 5 or 10 total

[north juniper]

I can always get the other items later

[versed cypress]

trash is once a day yeah

[north juniper]

I'd rather be on a roll

[north pecan]

yup

[cold jackal]

ah then how did people afford to get stuff? i only got 16 trash

[versed cypress]

its random

[fervent brook]

RNG

[versed cypress]

the ammount of trash varies

some ppl got little some ppl got as much as 36 for what i have seen

[north juniper]

The new pack also helps

[cold jackal]

damn, my rng must have been bad then

[undone steeple]

from 30b to 201b and this still won't raise 0.1% what the actual fuck

[vale wadi]

Wich island(s) did you buy?

[undone steeple]

couldve gotten the fucking slug by now

[versed cypress]

it hard caps at 20% so the closer you are to 20% the harder it will be to see any increase

[undone steeple]

well fuck me wish i knew before spending 300b+ on this crappa

[sharp igloo]

Is the last island any good or does it actually give nothing?

[tacit tulip]

It's good but lower prio

[versed cypress]

fractal island apparently you need to spend afk time in the island

the island description literaly tells you that you will spend your time candy there

[sharp igloo]

Which islands should I get with 75 bottles?

[crisp silo]

New lab slave job?

[pulsar cliff]

Trash and Shimmer are apparently what people are recommeding

[versed cypress]

trash, shimmer, the new fish one, the rando/fractal (these aparently you can interchange up to you) and final the crystal one

thats what ppl have sumarized to be the best one

trough the crystal one seems to daily spawn giant crystal mobs that drop time candy etc

[crisp silo]

That seems not as useful

[versed cypress]

so its up to you what you are more interested in when it comes to what the islands give

i mean a daily supply of a few time candy??? its not bad at all

[sharp igloo]

Okay thanks, ill do trash and shimmer for now

[crisp silo]

Wait so how much candy does it drop

Cause like if its 1 1hr then meh

[fervent brook]

You need the fish island to finish quest and increase bottles per day though.

[crisp silo]

If its like a regular giant mob then thats fire

[zealous niche]

Do the crystal mobs still work with choc chip and vman’s skill exp bonus thing?

[crisp silo]

Does fish island give more exp?

For fishing

Damn prio 2 it is

[zealous niche]

10-30x has been the range posted

[lyric sequoia]

Fishing island is the w5 fish spot we've been waitinf for

[crisp silo]

10x 30x you say

Sign me up

[zealous niche]

It’s what I was most hyped for with this update

[crisp silo]

Timr tobbuy more bottles

My 1000 gems not happi

But i can farm amrock

[vagrant mountain]

wen summer event

[north juniper]

I wish I could buy more but they're only in the limited shop

[crisp silo]

Maybe its a daily reset item?

[north juniper]

I hope so

[crisp silo]

I think next update he said

[north juniper]

But being in the limited shop says otherwise

[versed cypress]

limited shop refils either once a week or when items rotate

[fervent brook]

I am saving for fish island so I can finish that quest lol.

[vagrant mountain]

he said that last patch

[nimble yarrow]

what seem to be the best islands to unlock first?

[north juniper]

#💖future-content-blog message

[crisp silo]

Ppl say trash and shimmer

[versed cypress]

he just mentioned it after posting the patch notes for islands, that next update will include the summer event

[crisp silo]

But new fish is needed to finish the questline

Wait so last quest is not acc wide, so i can get big boost right?

[sweet mountain]

Doot is so broken he even breaks the UI frame

[crisp silo]

Oh wait i need lvl 90 fishing. Oh

[north juniper]

Weird flex but OK

[versed cypress]

no idea about this, the description on the island says it spawns giant crystal mobs that drop time candy, so dunno if they are affected by anything like choco etc

[crisp silo]

Anyone wanna take 1 for the team and find out?

[dapper prism]

Gz!

[vocal ibex]

whats best island order to get ?

[tight saddle]

Whatever you do, DO NOT LEAVE THE CRYSTAL ISLAND before killing them all

[zealous niche]

Big oof

[vocal ibex]

xD

[tight saddle]

I had the wrong skill setup on :(

[crisp silo]

We have a willing test subject, thank you for service

[zealous niche]

That’s a common trend, don’t leave without finishing the tasks on the map otherwise it’s gone

[versed cypress]

did the crystals despawned after you left to change it??

[quiet pewter]

trash shimmer and the fishing ones are good

[tight saddle]

Yep

[versed cypress]

oof ><

[tight saddle]

Didn't even touch em

[dreamy vector]

Squire divine (respawn) thing broken?

It does not respawn mobs

[versed cypress]

so yeah be careful with your loadouts when going to the islands and make sure to finish whatever you are trying to do before leaving

what are you tryign to respawn???

[dreamy vector]

Clamies

[torpid tusk]

I feel like just getting Socrates artifact doubled my damage, is that normal? Seems like a lot to put on one artifact

[dreamy vector]

Test it, before update it worked

Now doesnt

[versed cypress]

there were probably a few dead before you entered the map

the skill still works for me

[tight ridge]

!fishingchart

!fishchart

[tight saddle]

Also DONT USE 72h TIME CANDY TO TEST WHAT HAPPENS on the islands

[obtuse orbit]

Created by TrazCS#7476

[tight saddle]

You'll get a bunch of fishes

[crisp silo]

The 10%all stat?

[versed cypress]

you mean on fractal island???

[tight saddle]

I tried it on crystal island xd

[versed cypress]

hahahahaha

so using time candy on the islands spawn fish??

[tight saddle]

Yeah all kinds of them

[crisp silo]

Like new fish or med fish?

[sharp igloo]

How much do you need to get more than 8? 8 a week seems super low.

[torpid tusk]

Yeah, I swear my dude was at 2.9b cap yesterday and I unlocked socrates and did some cooking upgrades and now he's at 6.4b cap

[tight saddle]

Medium I think

[crisp silo]

Dang

[versed cypress]

probably it depends on the island

[crisp silo]

Is your gear magma+?

[quiet pewter]

10% stats didnt do that

[torpid tusk]

not even a little bit. void armor, diabolical staff, upgraded chiz scarf, and the last two rings from dungeon.

[versed cypress]

i mean it was stated that the islands are meant to be extremely slow progressing

[crisp silo]

Actually yea u would nvr get that big from 10% only

Maybe the cooking

[quiet pewter]

probably the old dmg was without cards

[torpid tusk]

Maybe I just didn't check after yesterday's cooking upgrades cuz I did pretty much everything to void plates yesterday and working down the list to green plates today

[sharp igloo]

Oh. Still, 8 a week is basically nothing.

[fervent brook]

I am getting 7 bottles per day so I can reach the fish island (with 51 bottles on hand now) in two days

[rustic garnet]

how'd you get 51 bottles?

[gray thicket]

Why can't I use Black Pearl on Divinity?

[quiet pewter]

credit card

[rustic garnet]

no....

[crisp silo]

Yes

[rustic garnet]

you can't buy more than 40?

[sharp igloo]

I bought 40 and somehow ended up with 75

[quiet pewter]

you start with some... and its been a day for some ppl, do the math

[crisp silo]

40+tdy bottles

[rustic garnet]

oh right

40*1.3

I did that too i guess

[fervent brook]

I only bought Trash island.

[patent hatch]

typical i think i just lost all my bottles

logged into one character, not knowing what the things where

then another and now they are all gone

[untold saffron]

is the bubble chat ring on the slab

[crisp silo]

It prob is

All items have slab

[dreamy vector]

Dis respawn =broken

[fervent brook]

I might not seem like a huge upgrade but even one more bottle per day means 7 more a week. So I want to complete the quest line as soon as I can to have maximum bottles per day.

[patent hatch]

is there a quest after the level 70 one

[opaque sun]

slightly time gated by a pickle

[pulsar cliff]

That's weird

[pulsar cliff]

I think 2 more.

[patent hatch]

should of bought m ore pickles lmao

[crisp silo]

Lvl90

[sweet mountain]

I just got the island pack. Shouldn't there be a trophy in it? A 1.2 DR item was shown in the banner. Or is that a permanent buff?

[fervent brook]

I buy them everyday lol

[crisp silo]

Perm buff

[fervent brook]

Then there is one that requires the new fish island.

[opaque sun]

1.2x permanent account buff

That pack alone is super stong

[patent hatch]

what are the quest rewards for level 80 and 90?

[fervent brook]

There is a bottles per day buff too.

[crisp silo]

Next quest after 70 is lvl 90 i think

[patent hatch]

oh right

[vocal ibex]

Question about fishing

[patent hatch]

5 levels off anyway

[vocal ibex]

Who's better barbarian for fishing fastest xp or van? I think barbarian has a lot of stuff for fishing

I'm only at 52 fishing ... on both

[opaque sun]

You dont want to over level bb anyway

so there isnt really other option besides vman to lead on with the skill lvl

[pulsar cliff]

I'm trying to crash out 5 levels before roll over on my Vman zzz

[fervent brook]

Looks like we finally got the depth rings from the new quest line.

[pulsar cliff]

What is the reward for the level 90 fishing quest?

[patent hatch]

yh my v man is 85

getting that to 90.... will be a lot of candy

[opaque sun]

And having the same lv52 means your bb is losing out in the mman’s hand effect

[pulsar cliff]

It's not too bad, just make sure you do crystal countdown

[crisp silo]

Honeslty might ccd and candy vman for 90 im p close, gotta get more bottles per day

[dapper prism]

I was 35k and had 9 (not sure where the breakpoint is)
Pretty sure around 33k was 8ish?

[sharp igloo]

Okay thanks

[pulsar cliff]

That's what I'm in the middle of lol

[frosty pike]

gotta unlock the fishing island as well

[untold saffron]

I'm gonna be pretty happy once I have fishing/shimmer/trash, feel the others aren't nearly as big a priority

[full cobalt]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[crisp silo]

The wait begins

[full cobalt]

lmao

it appears 1110 stacks of bones is enough

[frosty silo]

What Island is best to start with? In general

[untold saffron]

trash

by miles

[full cobalt]

hopium

[crisp silo]

Prob trasg

[frosty silo]

Ok will take that then ty

[full cobalt]

i can't even do the mechanics yet because i only have 4 4-hour candies 😭

[untold saffron]

you don't need the quest to do the islands

[full cobalt]

oh

[patent hatch]

how do you get more trash, is it random?

[full cobalt]

ok i'll check em out in 5 yrs when im done with smokey lake

[untold saffron]

you can upgrade it on the island, spawns per day

[patent hatch]

i see

[fervent brook]

I guess we are going to have to test the new depth rings to see if they are better than one of the skill rings.

[vagrant mountain]

they definitely are

[ornate bolt]

anyone have a link to that infographic about BIS gear for each activity?

[vagrant mountain]

for sampling at least

[dapper prism]

Magma, IS hat, skilling boots.

Made by Smol
https://i.imgur.com/evyrW89.png

Better pendant/scarf out now with kruk

[ornate bolt]

🙏

[vocal ibex]

What to get I'm simmer island .. only have 4 currancy

[dapper prism]

For prayers i usually run this on all, +hp stuff you gotta watch out for
https://i.imgur.com/Y8kJDIY.png

[vocal ibex]

Shimmers

[dapper prism]

Lastly, remember to NOT overlevel the +Sample size stuff, you barely even need it level 3-4 to reach the 90% cap with all the other unlocks that affect it. else you're just getting extra negative skill xp

[patent hatch]

200 bill :D

[dapper prism]

Gz! 🙂

[pulsar cliff]

Grats!!

[dapper prism]

Time to wear fisticuffs again xD

[paper sail]

I don't see anything pinned yet. Any quick guide or summary for islands available? About to patch

[twilit goblet]

are refinery Speed/mk per tier worth more points in or just save them for the critter/DR bonus in new rotation?

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/wACmQ8e.jpeg

@paper sail

[orchid ferry]

dr is really good apparently

[narrow sable]

bro gotta chill with these popup ads this is like the 4th one ive gotten

[twilit goblet]

yea the DR one looks very solid

[dapper prism]

Forge capacity would be nice too

[untold saffron]

gambled on one chip and got my first pendant doubler today is my day

[twilit goblet]

orz maybe i could spend everything here first then slowly upgrade next set

[full cobalt]

holy moly

[prisma drift]

All DR is good but it’s .2 Dr max (for arcade bonus)

[twilit goblet]

whats that, 1.2x multi o.o

[dapper prism]

It OP

[twilit goblet]

is that 1.2 times whatever your DR is

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/1WoqT1H.png

[untold saffron]

yes

[twilit goblet]

wtf

[untold saffron]

10x to 12x

[dapper prism]

Not even on my proper DR char

[twilit goblet]

very much pog

gonna speed up a lot of stuff

[untold saffron]

including lavas space station

[dapper prism]

W6 drops about to be 1/1m and require 10k of them

[twilit goblet]

can anyone show me current arcade's rotation?

[dapper prism]

#💖future-content-blog message

[twilit goblet]

just to see the numbers, i think im putting some more into forge rotation for faster bars, MK per tier and refinery speed ill give up

[twilit goblet]

ty

Dr looks real solid

but im going critter first i guess

[dapper prism]

Id def get that forge cap to like lvl 20 or 25 first

Forge cap the only thing to properly speed up bars

[vagrant mountain]

damn

[twilit goblet]

yea im still in iron bar hell

[sharp igloo]

Is this bubble worth atomming more? I just leveled it like 80 times and it barely raised my damage at all.

[twilit goblet]

oaky ill pump it up first , ty!

isnt that a linear bubble ^

[untold saffron]

theres better targets

[opaque sun]

name i guess is more for hourly bubble than atom

[twilit goblet]

scale infinitely

[vagrant mountain]

its all about quick slap, i wouldnt atom that bubble but click it if you can print enough gold ore to hourly click it

[sharp igloo]

Like what?

[opaque sun]

if gonna atom base damage, better off doing the green one

[twilit goblet]

only can reach 21.3 spending all my balls

[sharp igloo]

If i print gold i end up with a lot less atoms because im not printing copper

[dapper prism]

oh said lvl, but yeh that's already fine

where in ie can i see arcade stuff?

[twilit goblet]

world 2 - arcade

[vagrant mountain]

just use your atoms on quick slap then you'll get more dmg from it even on your mages

[twilit goblet]

tempting to rush the fishing island so i can level up vman fishing faster

[vagrant mountain]

shimmer overrated

wish i grabbed fishing island

[twilit goblet]

oh 5* Cardifier in new rotation too, guess they might be permanently there then

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/128683fc35a249ee1c2ee4b532a1c95d.png

before and after doot + divine scarf

[ember kite]

anyone pick crystal island?

[wanton stag]

505M ....

[heavy moth]

i pray for the day ill get doot XD my whole life is gonna change

[wanton stag]

i feel like everyone in world 5/6 is done grinding crystal mobs

[vagrant mountain]

the grass is always greener on the other side

[dapper prism]

+1 slab yay 😄
https://i.imgur.com/LWsV8Jj.png
https://i.imgur.com/2BNhJQr.png

[vagrant mountain]

[untold saffron]

card obol is such a bitch

[full cobalt]

nvm the oranges just healed to full again

END MY SUFFERING

[untold saffron]

is it worth buying the last 4 set of cogs and/or last 4 lava sprouts

[dapper prism]

Kinda funny that once you reach a certain point in IS you basically unlock most other free rewards at once but just have to wait a while to claim them :/

[pulsar cliff]

Arcade stamps are a myth stg

[edgy pine]

How much drop rate comes from books

Obols

[untold saffron]

a lot

[dapper prism]

like 3x+

[edgy pine]

Oof

[ember kite]

Void skill levels + massive obol drop rate, statue farm and ez pens

[edgy pine]

I don’t have many

Don’t gold pens get mentioned somewhere in the game?

[untold saffron]

are sparkle skilling obols dead now in favour of divines?

[vagrant mountain]

i think hard to beat 5% afk

[little pagoda]

Yes, especially when you complete realm

[wanton stag]

true, but you just stack crystal spawns over time. i feel like it would be faster to just active farm the regualr map for crystals

[little pagoda]

But getting the final reward is a bit of a grind still

[dapper prism]

Yup, not even complete realm but just unlock 1 goose and you're basically done

[crisp silo]

New slab item: gold pens

[little pagoda]

I mean maybe, at some point in realm it speeds up a lot

[dapper prism]

(not maxed dr obols here as i have some red ones on afaik)
https://i.imgur.com/V9vASdd.png

[edgy pine]

:v

[dapper prism]

yeh, 1x goose = much money => more geese => everything else is ezpz. Game basically doesnt even start until you get to that realm breakpoint.

[little pagoda]

Yeah pretty much. The problem I'm having now is that I am able to get everything in the game except for max pets and max spelunking

so no way to reach teehee 16, but also I'm waiting for reward claims anyway so it's fine

Gonna use those days finishing the ice cream deliveries and tunnels so hopefully when I can claim idle skilling trophy I can actually reach it lol

[twilit goblet]

omg after putting all Ship on fury since mushroom is the current trade

[dapper prism]

Wooot wooot! GZ!!!

[twilit goblet]

now i can do another round of gambling for books!

thanks!!

[dapper prism]

got the achievement and atom? 245 max?

[untold saffron]

I almost never get a book thats not a 20x exchange now

[twilit goblet]

not achievement yet

[stable kayak]

Anyone has the command for the gemshop tier list ?

[twilit goblet]

ah im really close

[prisma lance]

So best order for islands?

[vagrant mountain]

its !gemshop

[untold saffron]

its mad outdated anyway init?

[dapper prism]

Trash > Shimmer from what i know

[stable kayak]

can I use it here or is it spam ?

[vagrant mountain]

fk shimmer go Trash > Fishing island

[stable kayak]

!gemshop

[dapper prism]

That's terrible

[stable kayak]

Ohhhh but W5 is not there yet ...

[dapper prism]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[vagrant mountain]

shimmer feels bad because you get like 4-6 points a week

[dapper prism]

or
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1135409727237541938/tonysgemshoptierlistv2-2.png

[stable kayak]

Thank you!!

[pulsar cliff]

The talent book is worth ❤️

[dapper prism]

But new stamp is timegated and an easy 2-3%+ All stats?

[vagrant mountain]

ok thats a good point

[ionic acorn]

Can we reset a subclasS to another ?

[prisma drift]

I got 9 shimmer this week

[fervent brook]

That is what I am doing. You need fish island to complete quest line and get more bottles a day.

[prisma drift]

I did not get the talent book

[untold saffron]

same, and then burned them all not getting a book

[dapper prism]

same, at 35k stats, how many states were u at?

[prisma drift]

Same man same

[dapper prism]

Oh really?

[prisma drift]

Like 35k I wanna say

[vagrant mountain]

i need lvl 90 fishing for next quest, how many more are there?

[dapper prism]

Didnt know quest gave more daily bottles?

[prisma drift]

Last one

[vagrant mountain]

nice

[ember kite]

I'm in the fishing island, I'm working on the fishing island quest 1k shellfish

[prisma drift]

Last quest needs the fish from new island

So you won’t be doing it anyways

[signal osprey]

Shimmer is all about the incremental gains really. In the short term you could argue a different island is better but longterm when you're done with most/all major expedition content the earlier you unlocked shimmer the more you benefit from the update overall

[prisma drift]

Unless you picked fishing island

[vagrant mountain]

my heart broke when omar took all my candy

[dapper prism]

wait for reset, buy bottles xD

[vagrant mountain]

are the bottles daily purchases?

[ember kite]

I did 😎

[prisma drift]

You think bottles will refresh?

[dapper prism]

oh nvm

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i didnt think so

[opaque sun]

shimmer island has some time gated stuff, but all those bonuses are existing stats

[vagrant mountain]

dammit lava take my money

[dapper prism]

Hey LAVA, make bottles reset daily and you get more monies!

[prisma drift]

Real gamers pick crystal island

[vagrant mountain]

💀

are you a daily crystal spawn maxi?

[prisma drift]

Im not a real gamer

I chose trash and shimmer

[dapper prism]

Better pick Fractal, toss all 10/10 chars there and see you in a year

[vagrant mountain]

😆

the nothing bonus goes crazy

[signal osprey]

Just candy it

[heavy moth]

let me add that to my will if i ever get in a coma

[prisma drift]

Imagine having 60k hours of candy

[dapper prism]

Are there any screenies for fractal?

[dapper prism]

Only need 20k

40/60k is for w6/7

[prisma drift]

Oh I thought it was 60 for max

[signal osprey]

60k hours is for W6 and W7 bonuses

[prisma drift]

Ah I missed that part

[vagrant mountain]

who wants to sac their account progress for fractal screenies?

[signal osprey]

I'll do it

[vagrant mountain]

😆

🫡

[prisma drift]

Legend

[signal osprey]

I don't have it unlocked yet but I'll go fractal 3rd

And candy that shit up

[dapper prism]

Tag me in pics plz? 😄

[signal osprey]

[burnt veldt]

Can someone screenshot the new bundle

[dapper prism]

Btw, finally hit my 10k+ mark the other day, im ready for w6!
https://i.imgur.com/aX9Jk6l.png

[dapper dome]

greenstack it

[dapper prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1137822180332273775/image.png

1.20x dr very op

[burnt veldt]

Thanks

[vagrant mountain]

honestly this might be the best gem pack

[dapper dome]

is unending loot search damaging ? sometimes when i claim lab characters i get 24+ hours of sailing gains so it feels like without it im just burning stuff but idk

[vagrant mountain]

unending loot is only good when you can only check sailing once a day

[dapper prism]

or once u have all artis done and only need captain xp 😄

[vagrant mountain]

ye

[signal osprey]

I use it to spam island one for big p clicks

[dapper prism]

although i still dont use it cause 50 chests > 29 while upgrading ships

[dapper dome]

so if im missing artis dont use then ?

[pulsar cliff]

Wish I had thought of that.

[dapper prism]

unless you only check sailing like once a day

[signal osprey]

Always click everything you can

[dapper dome]

sailing is just such a hassle cause of the bad UI

[signal osprey]

Bubble level = self worth

Thank you for coming to my ted talk

[dapper prism]

1B seems pricey 😦

Still need to upgrade boats a bunch more (for me at least)

[signal osprey]

It is pricy but the alternative is to actually do sailing

[dapper prism]

rofl

[signal osprey]

I'll just take take my extra +2 every so often and pretend sailing doesn't exist aside from that

Until we get T4 artis

[dapper prism]

I ignored my bb the other day and had 2x 42h sailing skips. without the sb talent = rip xD

[full cobalt]

hopium

[signal osprey]

You can claim afk gains get the 42 hour proc then swap to SB and put a point in the talent before actually opening the sailing UI

[stable kayak]

With the Bear Divinity, is it supposed to be like this ?
OR they need to on the lab?

[full cobalt]

only took literally 3 hours

[steel dagger]

Does anyone know why my Portals Reset after a Void Speedrun? is this normal? This kinda fucks my progress over

[signal osprey]

With bear you count as being in the lab from anywhere so your characters can farm anything you want

[dapper prism]

Not sure what you fully mean, but bear doesnt affect your div, it just allows you to have lab bonuses on.

[stable kayak]

Ohhh so If I want still divinity, I just keep everyone meditating still?

[dapper prism]

After unlocking bear its a great time to active on 1 character again for proper content/unlocks

[stable kayak]

Im getting my Zows , currently at penguins

[vagrant mountain]

I find after vman speedrun, the highest map ive unlocked on my other characters is unlocked for vman. try pushing maps with your other chars

[ember kite]

I mean the talent litteraly says you start over from the begining

just void shenanigans ig

[steel dagger]

Ahh, okay, so then it's fine i guess. I was wondering before why the portals were unlocked for him, then it's fine i guess 😄

tysm

[vagrant mountain]

np, not sure if it's an intended mechanic but that's how i find it works

[serene forum]

You must have the wrong setup or didnt unlock nuke pet

[dapper prism]

You dont push portals on vman

Sorry chat was scrolled up

[steel dagger]

Yeah, i know, but he was just there chilling and i was wondering why it happens 😄

There is so much stuff not explained and it's just nice to get to know why certain things work the way they do

[pulsar cliff]

Watching crystal countdown hit all the skills that's already capped.

[ember kite]

what's your crystal chance lmao

[pulsar cliff]

1/9

[ember kite]

eyyy same

[lavish cloak]

any method to shimmer expenditure?

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure book first is the way to go

[paper sail]

1/9? Jeez

[dapper prism]

thats on vman

[lavish cloak]

and garbage is straight up save 135 for new bribes first?

[dapper prism]

Doubt it

I would just stack more trash for a while, unless a bribe helps with it

[signal osprey]

I believe the efficient math route for max garbage time is 5-6 garbage% upgrade then bribes

[lavish cloak]

a bribe is supposed to

[serene forum]

All pet battles take 5-10mins max. With mono-refiller-looter-rattler-shield-refiller

Literally just block the first 2 enemy hit times manually with shield. The key is to hold down the shield pet icon before battle until you see a small “x” next to it. This disables the shield move so you can then make all your other moves automatic except for shield. So manually block the attack (with the last spice you have to block at the absolute last moment), then after mono gets started just hold down the block active key, which should be the number 5 on keyboard.

This requires tsar bomb pet unlocked. Eventually looter will turn all of your attacks to cursery for a second and boost your damage so high so that when looter procs a tsar bomb it will either 1 or 2 shot any boss.

[full cobalt]

i have nuke, what does it do? the description isn't very helpful lol

[wind umbra]

anyone know if trash stacks up like bottles or u gotta go pick em up daily?

[full cobalt]

ohh i didnt have a looter

[dapper prism]

wait bottles stack up if u dont claim em?

[untold saffron]

resampled all my mages from 320m to 500m logs per slot

[ember kite]

yea

[untold saffron]

atoms go brrrr

[wind umbra]

yea at least tahts what it says in patch notes

[full cobalt]

and i used a borger instead of looter

[dapper prism]

Gz

[ember kite]

but the thing is if you need 25 and you're waiting for 1 day for 25, but wait 2 days instead, you're behind in progress compared to daily checkers

[modest pawn]

where order to unlock islands?

[serene forum]

Borger for pet battles is useless because you get 1 shot. Borger is only good for pet arena where your trying to push for level 200.

Use the setup. You absolutely need looter. He will proc tsar bomb and cursery which will literally 1 or 2 shot boss within 10 minutes. My instruction is meta btw

[dapper prism]

True, just good to know if i miss it a day i dont actually fully lose out on it

[full cobalt]

yep i'm using that setup on the last few fights! thanks

what does tsar bomb do?

[dapper prism]

much dmg

[ember kite]

Trash > Fishing > Shimmer > Crystal > Fractal

This is just what I'm assuming so far, unless you have level 90 fishing on one of your characters then prolly want to do fishing second

Idk if anyone has picked rando yet

[serene forum]

It hits the most dmg.

Tsar bomb from looter plus the buffs like cursery from looter means 1-2hit kill. All within 10 mins

[dapper prism]

Rando sounds pretty bad initially

[full cobalt]

ooh so it hits the healers

i was thinking of using a sniper

but they dont do any dmg

[hybrid mirage]

Is anyone else game just crashing?

[full cobalt]

this set will help me thx

[dapper prism]

Did you update the game and restart it?

[hybrid mirage]

I had to remove it and reinstall and it is still doing it

[past thistle]

does Mole trophy quest consume the cape and necklace?

[dapper prism]

Whats you get a scarf, you can move it onto each character quickly and talk to the npc so they all look like this:
https://i.imgur.com/DPNh8yh.png

Then just be sure to only do boss on alts that need the cape (on quest)

[past thistle]

oh so you have to OBTAIN the cape on each character

[dapper prism]

Yes for more trophies

[past thistle]

(sorry typo)

Well...time to grind everyone to 450

[dapper prism]

Dont need the level for the cape drop or anything

Although to equip the trophy, yes, 450. The scarf 425

[ember kite]

the worst part is, it's kinda worth getting 10 scarfs and 10 krunk necklaces, for any AFK you need fighting vs skilling

[dapper prism]

Yeh the necklaces are great

[past thistle]

Thankfully Chizoar scarf is very cheap and easy

[signal osprey]

425 is the important level so you have scarf for samples. 450 is nice but realistically half your characters don't need the trophy anyway

[untold saffron]

krunk necklace?

[dapper prism]

You use chizoar scarf + kruk necklace to make divine necklace, which is the great afk one

[untold saffron]

oh is that what its called

[ember kite]

no it's just what I remebered it as

😂 .

[dapper prism]

That strung one turns to the above scarf

afk gain = nice

the dg skilling necklace only has 15% "SKILL" afk gain, but the divine scarf is ALL + more %, even nicer with lab chip to double

[serene forum]

Yup. Dont forget to turn all moves to auto except for shield. Hold down the shield icon until it turns to an x. Last pet battle the boss attacks quick and its 3 axes so you pretty much have to always manually block the first hit for all endgame fights. After that just hold down the shield hotkey. After that is rng, but generally when you reach the point where mono is pausing time infinately with your shield still alive, you pretty much won within 10 mins because eventually looter will proc every skill at an extreme rate including cursery and tsar

[opaque sun]

scarf tend to net more stats due to having high base stats that gets multiplied by other % buffs

[serene forum]

Lab chip doubles accessories? When does that chip come out

[full cobalt]

thx again!

[opaque sun]

unless you mystery stone strung on all stats% 5 times

[ornate bolt]

is there a link to this btw

[dapper prism]

All guide Spreadsheets that help with one another for Sampling:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[serene forum]

Mystery stone should be buffed or used for crafting equipment tbh. Nobody is using that shit rofl.

[ember kite]

it's used in stamps

[ornate bolt]

legend, ty

[opaque sun]

sadly, mystery I is better than mystery III

[coral falcon]

if you unlock a god on 1 char, does it unlock on all?

ive failed the snake unlock too many times already and i really dont want to repeat it on 10 chars

[ember kite]

yes, but you can only link to one god

[opaque sun]

Like you dont care stats when using mystery, and myster III just makes it more obnoxious to fail (need to click more)

[coral falcon]

tg

[dapper prism]

If im going for 1B DN, is it worth doing it on BB with worse rates "just incase" it gets another mega chow thing? xD

[pulsar cliff]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz don't say that I just finished my 1b kills lol

[ember kite]

Death kight is 100% gonna have something like that

I'd bet money on it

mfer litteraly the grim reaper

[wanton stag]

is it possible to 3d print souls?

[ember kite]

no

[opaque sun]

By the time that is required, what BB farms now would be like nothing in comparison to the kills made in the future

[dapper prism]

Mhm true point

[opaque sun]

like in w6 there will be multipliers to kill 100m/hr or something

[ember kite]

the best you can do is

grind waves for more souls
grind skull for faster charge
grind w4 rift for level 300 total worship to make cards passive

[signal osprey]

Plus I wouldn't want to give up forge progress on the off chance you might benefit from it later

[opaque sun]

It was only few months ago that people were happy doing 1m/hr kills on gmush

Now its 20m/hr

[signal osprey]

[ember kite]

[tight ridge]

is tremor worms really better than oranges for cc?

it doesnt feel that way so far

[untold saffron]

i dunno, I've never tested it properly tbh

[prisma drift]

Mine is

You might need more movespeed/ a different skill bar

[sick sentinel]

its slightly better cc time, and just better exp/keys

[tawny jacinth]

How do you do fellow end gamers

[grizzled elk]

not sure if it matters to anyone but the arcade balls in the limited shop say 100, but it gives you 200

[prisma drift]

Mine didn’t

[tawny jacinth]

Might be a bug, I had the same but not everyone

[tight ridge]

this my bar should i change something?

[prisma drift]

Mine gave me 100 lol

[ember kite]

new content = no endgamers 😭

[prisma drift]

Raise the dead first

[hybrid halo]

I also got 200

[prisma drift]

Aura second

[opaque sun]

aura first has some use on certain maps, but i just run raise dead first

[vagrant mountain]

this is justice

[rustic garnet]

I only got 100 😦

[prisma drift]

Not on tremor

[somber sparrow]

is there already a list of the new bribes?

[rustic garnet]

baited

[prisma drift]

Tremor raise the dead superior

[grizzled elk]

ahh sorry dude

[edgy pine]

What about poison canisters for poison cloud

[ember kite]

you need trash islad to buy new bribes

[prisma drift]

Ghost gives you clouds

[edgy pine]

Ahhhh ok

[prisma drift]

The canisters just makes you use less respawn skill

[edgy pine]

Didn’t know

Also I can’t afk or active tremors so I’m sad

[stable kayak]

I am seeing that Bubbo is best money farm, does anyone have the building guide for characters guide ?

[somber sparrow]

i know, thats not what i asked tho XD

[prisma drift]

There is

I seen it in w3 chat

Sure it was posted here too

[somber sparrow]

thanks, found it!

[pulsar cliff]

I can't find it, mind linking>

[light pawn]

how do i start w5

what is the best thing to do first

[pulsar cliff]

Stick everyone on divinity for awhile usually

[light pawn]

should i respec

[pulsar cliff]

Tyvm!

[crisp silo]

no portal?

[prisma drift]

It looks like a skilling preset almost

[light pawn]

y

[crisp silo]

why attk talents

[light pawn]

extra dmg on worship

😄

[crisp silo]

bruh

ok sikilling build

[heavy moth]

they are so cheap XD

[crisp silo]

might want to top up on the extra talent points

actual dirt cheap

[prisma drift]

Big ol 2% dmg 🔥

[glass dirge]

hey guys, I need some help. I dont know if this is a bug or I'm understanding vman's blood marrow talent wrong, but I have 133 total meal levels with the skill at lvl 100, but it says i only have a 2% meal cooking speed? If its exponential (1.0066^133 = 2.4), wouldn't that be 240%?

[prisma drift]

That’s normal

[crisp silo]

dont think we have the actual formula

but like that shld be normal

[prisma drift]

It starts getting fast at like 6-700

[crisp silo]

like its shit at low levels and its a bomb at higher lvls

[prisma drift]

Then really fast at 2000+

[glass dirge]

hm ok thanks I couldnt figure out the math behind it but it seemed low. seems like i just need to grind more

[light pawn]

oh all w5 skills are shared?

[crisp silo]

wait no that alr correct u misinterpret yyr math

[prisma drift]

Not div level

[crisp silo]

like its just 2.4% boost

[light pawn]

1 exp per hour .. i dont get it

[prisma drift]

Welcome to div month

[crisp silo]

1xp per hr is starting line

[modern plaza]

2.4% is HUGE!

((1+x)^y)/100

[lime imp]

anyone knows how does the trash island work?

[strong nova]

exactly like what you think ?

[glass dirge]

you right. dont mind me. I majored in business for a reason

[modern plaza]

nah, the wording is bad

[signal osprey]

Just cook more

[twilit goblet]

shud i do the omar quest on my highest fishing character? asking before i commit the time candy quest on my BM lmao

only lvl 50 fishing

[dapper prism]

account wide

[twilit goblet]

oh account wide

nice

[dapper prism]

afaik

not sure if anything changes on the last quest(s) but should remain account wide?

[twilit goblet]

account wide indeed i just brought my berserker there

[fathom lagoon]

Meaning the benefits are account wide or it’s account wide fishing level?

[dapper prism]

Complete the quest on one, and it completes it on the others

[fathom lagoon]

Ah ok

[vocal ibex]

Looking at how long it would take me to get 90 fishing

I cant find total xp needed for 90

[serene forum]

Not long at all

You need to unlock sea island

[dapper prism]

Current fish level, and xp rate?

Btw how much better is XP rate on new island ? anyone done a before/after comparison?

[serene forum]

Sea island gives you extreme amounts of fishing exp. Like multi millions to billions.

[heavy moth]

wonder if its gonna be a huge gain on next sampling

[dapper prism]

No because sample size is capped at 90% and is ezaf to cap

[vocal ibex]

2.65m an hour. Level 71

[vocal wraith]

Watch out. If you leave without tapping bottles you lose them

Just lost all mine 😦

[wind umbra]

i think someone said they were at 6m/hr and with new island they were at 110m/h

[heavy moth]

for r eal 😮 wow its so useless then

[tawdry steeple]

ya it's the biggest issue with new update

[vocal ibex]

I should of gotten that new fishing island first

[serene forum]

Need to unlock sea island. Fishing exp is gated by new zones and fish. Just like how beginner zone you get 10x less than advanced zone.

New zone with sea island gives you at least 10x

[vocal ibex]

Oh well I gotta wait now

[signal osprey]

Highest ive seen is 1260m

[dapper prism]

2.6 seems low, should easily get to like 5+ on vman?
116d 6h 3m 46s on the docks, but as contract mentioned a good xp rate above, means get that island in the next days first xD

[serene forum]

At least a 10x. I saw 70b exp an hour on gen chat.

[vocal ibex]

I need 95 bottles I'm at 22... fml 🤣

[serene forum]

Pretty much sea island is required to finish quest unless you already have lvl 90 fishing or plan to manually wait/candy

[signal osprey]

With ccd hitting 90 fishing on kraken isn't really that bad

I think its hard to justify delaying other islands just for more fishing exp

[dapper prism]

my vman just hit 90 fishing like 2 days ago xD

maybe even yesterday morning

fun coincidance

[serene forum]

Ccd?

[signal osprey]

Crystal countdown

[twilit goblet]

how long did that took

im 61 rn

[serene forum]

Sounds tedious tbh.

[dapper prism]

if you ccd its like 75%+ faster xp/h

[twilit goblet]

maybe i can Start ccd?

[dapper prism]

You do double levels

[signal osprey]

Using ccd is always good yeah

[serene forum]

Plus i started my quest on fishing main. I wont mind the extra wait. Only like 4 days im guessing.

[signal osprey]

Quest is accountwide

[serene forum]

Because dosent each bottle give like 5? So 5 a day cap means at least 20 bottles a day

[dapper prism]

Here a ccd tip/simple guide:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[twilit goblet]

that's pretty good, thanks!

for ccd, essentially i would want to go and level up every other skill that it hits as well?

every once in a while

[dapper prism]

If you care about it, could do it, could also candy some stuff maybe 🤷 g

[twilit goblet]

true, everything else seems okay, just fishing is slow

[dapper prism]

Since ccd can still hit the skills that already reached the %xp cap, can be worth hitting some other stuff if needed.

[dapper prism]

From above comments tho, new island for fishing sounds op

[opaque sun]

you can still get to fish lv90 on krakens, so not too op atm

But will be crucial when w6 comes out

[serene forum]

Yea new island fishing exp is meta. Nothing else comparable. But that island is only for fishing exp and maybe the mats. I guess its extra greenstacks.

[twilit goblet]

question is how much further away from 3rd and 4th island if i pick fishing island 2nd tho

[vocal ibex]

Im go do that crystal farm stuff

[twilit goblet]

but i might wnt to do shimmer 2nd since it seems to be quite time gated as well

[vocal ibex]

What monster best for crystals

[arctic lantern]

good old spaghetti

[opaque sun]

crystal countdown? Any mob honestly

[serene forum]

Fishing island should be 3rd island minimum. Shimmer and garbage are crucial islands.

[twilit goblet]

yea garbage and shimmer first i think

[dapper prism]

flat map, dense, like citringe so less walking

[twilit goblet]

omar quest improves bottles yea?

[opaque sun]

Vman doesnt clear map fast enough so map layout doesnt matter too much honestly

[twilit goblet]

so quite a priority to do

[serene forum]

Especially garbage island. Since its timegated and the buffs are crazy

[opaque sun]

Oj and worms are okay for crystal countdown

[dapper prism]

could also do stuff like snelbie if u still need cards 😄

[opaque sun]

Trash island is definitely a must to get first as lava recommended

[twilit goblet]

is it the strat to pump this to atom range on non mage then start atoming it

been doing all my bargain tags into this one

[dapper prism]

You can always use non main class + UNLINK Lab nodes for vials

[twilit goblet]

lmao good point, never thought about lab nodes

[pulsar cliff]

Also make sure No Bubble Left Behind is hitting it daily.

[twilit goblet]

i have other bubbles at lvl 100

[pulsar cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/lawrence-fishburne-get-back-to-work-boss-gif-15075204

[twilit goblet]

ho if i remove the lab nodes reduction this could be big

[dapper prism]

Nails is pretty cheap and quick if/when you powerlevel your smithing with some coldseekers

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[twilit goblet]

bro full of wisdom

i did just get the recipe ytd

maybe only spitfire gating me but i could definitely raise my speed

[signal osprey]

Hammer bubble will be your best bet for speed

[dapper prism]

reset points, max xp, mass craft, then reset back to speed.

[signal osprey]

Also pushing speed with hammer bubble will eventually get your exp rate up quite a bit too just from crafting so much per hour

[twilit goblet]

definitely adding it to my excel sheet of list of things to do

yea im currently just mass producing nails on everyone, trying to get it into atom

so many bubbles help with another aspect of the game to help getting more bubbles, sometimes it feels difficult to know which one i shud prioritise

now im thinking just focusing on logging samples so all the skilling bubbles

[vocal ibex]

for arcade to get red hat is it left tilt right tilt or no tilt

[signal osprey]

General rule of thumb I've followed when deciding what to do is asking what would benefit my samples the most

If something helps samples I did it. If not I skipped it

[dapper prism]

Just be sure to go for Larry first + ^ sample stuff especially oak/copper (fk bugs)

[signal osprey]

After my samples got big I could kind of just do whatever I want from there

[twilit goblet]

yea i go by that as well, im just putting some points into larry every day since im only producing 9k atoms

and larry costs like 2k per atom

[dapper prism]

I did Larry 1100 then a ton of purple sample bubbles and went from 300m to 800m sample within under a month-ish

[twilit goblet]

so larry+ chopping bubbles, and some mining bubbles when i can get enough mats

[serene forum]

Is shiny snitch And zerg worship bubbles essential?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[dapper prism]

which one is shiny snitch?

[twilit goblet]

ye fuck bugs the sample size is so small

[signal osprey]

More shinies per trap but lower shiny chance

[dapper prism]

ah prayer?

[signal osprey]

Its absolutely mandatory if you want shiny critters

[serene forum]

Yea the last 2 green prayers

[signal osprey]

Theres no other good way to farm them

And zerg is free afk%

Also a big buff

[serene forum]

Dont know how i missed them

Is green worship difficult to clear?

[dapper prism]

The Prayers I run 24/7 (+HP stuff like Midas is situational, DR/Money)
https://i.imgur.com/Y8kJDIY.png

[dapper prism]

Remember you can only get 1 shiny per trap. So the prayer is essential. Also if pushing through trap quest just do 20min traps for a while.

[fast grail]

There isnt any special things on shimmer right? Just upgrade whatever stats and whenever i am feeling lucky try for star talent?

[signal osprey]

Pretty much

[fast grail]

Seems pretty meh aside from star talent

[signal osprey]

Although I think focusing the book is probably better than getting stats early on

[fast grail]

but stats are stats i guess

[signal osprey]

Yeah its basically hourly clicks in island form

[dapper prism]

^ agreed, and if focusing stats i'll probably be hard focusing just 1 stat like WIS for ES dmg

[signal osprey]

Except its weekly instead of hourly

[pulsar cliff]

And base stats no?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

But even then its still similar to a click

[serene forum]

True. Definitely need to run wave 121. Strat seems simple too just lightning and void on the top edge. A ice at the middle front as well as 5 eye summoners. And at the bottom 3-4 poisons 4/5 partys and a lightning for extra dmg

[signal osprey]

The base stats benefit from all stat bonuses whereas your clicks benefit from bubble 17

[opaque sun]

free existing stat buffs

nothing new so kind of a lower priority island

[signal osprey]

You'll get 2 to 3 stat per level in both shimmer and bubble 1 despite one being base and the other being total

[serene forum]

Efficency percent is the strongest buff aside card chance right?

[opaque sun]

The skill efficiency is kind of nice

Unless shimmer cost scales, seems to be the plan to just dumping in skill efficiency

[pulsar cliff]

Well my week roll over is in 50 minutes lol. So I'll put some points in.

[opaque sun]

total damage% seems to be a new multiplier pool, so i guess its not bad to raise it a bit

[lavish cloak]

Thats important

[serene solstice]

another snail reset to lvl 10 >.>

[lavish cloak]

Dps best mechanic will eventually generate bonuses

[lavish cloak]

Not zero? No problem

[serene solstice]

its my third time reset to 10

had one to 0

[prisma drift]

Someone posted the amount of upgrades you get before it scales

But shimmer upgrades do scale in cost

[signal osprey]

[lavish cloak]

So theres a minimum threshold to hit across all bonuses asap

[prisma drift]

Yeah they scale after different upgrades

I think one of them scales every 2 upgrades

[sharp igloo]

If you have the last atom that makes it so your snail can only reset to 5 or higher, but your snail is under level 5, can it still reset to 0 until you reach 5?

[prisma drift]

But I have bad memory so it might be 3

[signal osprey]

I still feel like I'll level up efficiency more than the other stuff regardless of scaling 🤷‍♂️

[lavish cloak]

Why rely on memory in the digital age? Write down everything you know to keep access to it.

[prisma drift]

Im just gonna spam talent

[signal osprey]

Yeah after talent of course

[pulsar cliff]

Is there a level range to the talent or always level 200?

[signal osprey]

All shimmers go to that first

[prisma drift]

Oh well I don’t plan to get talent for a long time because 1% sounds like a bad time

[twilit goblet]

worth grinding out this and king of food? thinking it could be good for worship souls and more bonus to sampling

[lavish cloak]

Is it that the talent is gamba with a 3% chance to pay out? Or is it drop chance from something else?

[muted bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/i-got-a-quick-question-neil-de-grasse-tyson-star-talk-i-have-a-question-quick-question-gif-20163293

[prisma drift]

I managed to scrape 9 shimmers this week but next week is fishing eff

[muted bramble]

How do you understand this

[prisma drift]

I’ll prolly get like 2 shimmers next week

[lavish cloak]

I just talented my dk back and got 49k stats with reward of 10

Probably should have worn better cards to see if i could hit 11

Got excited at the new content

[prisma drift]

Good luck on your book rolls

[opaque sun]

cost 3 to gamba

[sharp igloo]

Im scared to even try the book rolls until the other stuff is super expensive. Dont wanna waste a years worth of shimmers getting nothing lol

[opaque sun]

its a all stat% talent which kind of scales bad i heard

[pulsar cliff]

It doesn't scale great lol.

[vagrant mountain]

just finished lava skulling w1 😎 time for the blacked skulls

[signal osprey]

It will largely depend on your alch

[pulsar cliff]

At level 200 it's about 4.2% (With 600T dmg on dummy)

[prisma drift]

Something’s not quite right here

[opaque sun]

best to invest in the stats for like few months before gamba book

[vagrant mountain]

looks fine to me

[signal osprey]

If you're a clicker then it won't amount to much as a huge portion of your stats are total and therefore not boosted

[prisma drift]

Yeah I guess so

[signal osprey]

But if you bubble 1's are low then a large portion of your stats will be counted so it should be a decent boost

[opaque sun]

When shimmer upgrades starts to cost like 10+ each, then maybe gamba for book

[prisma drift]

My bubble 1’s are like 200

I never click hourly

[signal osprey]

Then the star talent will benefit you more than it would an end gamer in terms of total % increase relative to your current stats

[zealous niche]

Not even atomed?

[prisma drift]

I use atoms on Larry and other bubbles

[signal osprey]

You're missing out on those 200 that don't count

[vocal ibex]

do i need shiny snitch to farm crystals on vman for leveliong skills?

[signal osprey]

I'm missing out on 4k stat bubbles that don't count lol

[prisma drift]

Got Larry to 102% so far

[vagrant mountain]

larry too expensive for me to level up

[zealous niche]

The critter shiny chance prayer?

How does that relate to crystals

[prisma drift]

I get like 40k atoms a day

So it’s not too bad for me

[zealous niche]

The 100 atom first bubbles are more affordable

[vocal ibex]

oh damn lol u right

[vagrant mountain]

i usually use on this one

[signal osprey]

As long as you throw atoms at something thats what matters most

[zealous niche]

Crystal chance comes from genie and poop cards, stamp, star talent and jman talent

[signal osprey]

Bubbles 1 2 and 3 in orange and purple are great starts

They're cheap and boost samples giving more atoms

[zealous niche]

I’m going for 1B oak prints first then tackling other skills

[vagrant mountain]

i feel like bubble 2 feels bad to level after a certain point its like 10 levels for 0.01x

[opaque sun]

if possible, do on those you would never print on your own

[signal osprey]

450/950 are the normal stopping points for bubble 2

[vagrant mountain]

guessing 450 is like 2.8?

[opaque sun]

Bubbles that uses log and ore are slightly lower atom priority as you can just hourly click those eventually

[signal osprey]

Yeah I prioritized purple 3 over orange 3 for that reason

[coral goblet]

What two cards do you double for printing?

[vagrant mountain]

yeah might as well pump bubble 2s i guess, been pumping hearty diggy but kinda feels bad because they use logs

[signal osprey]

I got big chopping prints and then started hourly clicking hearty doggy instead

[vagrant mountain]

hearty doggy heh

[opaque sun]

Amarok afk gain and troll efficiency is the common double cards

[signal osprey]

Not gonna fix that

[coral goblet]

The bunny?

[prisma drift]

Ctroll was bigger gains than bunny for my samples

[signal osprey]

You'll use bunny but you won't double it

[opaque sun]

efficiency is bigger impact

[signal osprey]

Chaotic troll efficiency is a huge boost and beats out bunny by quite a bit

[coral goblet]

Oh yeah bunny is passive now

I have both cars doubler chips

Card

[signal osprey]

No its not passive its just not as good as troll and Amarok

[coral goblet]

Oh those are the two I’d double ok

[ember kite]

10 characters on large fish 😎

[prisma drift]

I want fishing island

[vagrant mountain]

me too

do omar's quests to increase bottles

and buy gem pack heh

maybe he bought in gem shop

[opaque sun]

If given a choice of double ctroll or amarok, probably ctroll better now

[ember kite]

before or after the pack?

[vagrant mountain]

here is an F in chat

F

[ember kite]

the pack gives you 20% more bottles

it should

[vagrant mountain]

💀

[signal osprey]

I havent heard of it applying

[ember kite]

otherwise it's a scam

well it would be like

2?

2 extra bottles

yea something like that

[dapper prism]

Is trash amount rng based? I was only able to do 1 upgrade but a friend got 3 upgrades in the center skill

Any known range?

[prisma drift]

Daily reset for sure

[vagrant mountain]

idk i got 16 trash today

[dapper prism]

Nawh his daily reset was 15h+

[prisma drift]

3 upgrades seems impossible for one day

That’s like 30+ trash

[dapper prism]

he said he had like 47ish

[prisma drift]

Let me get his islands location

Im a pirate today

[strong nova]

what fractal do

[prisma drift]

Nothing

[strong nova]

hmm why suggested get fractal early

Trash>Shimmer>Seasalt>Fractal>Rando>Crystal

[prisma drift]

Lucky

[dapper prism]

Sesalt may be better than shimmer in some ways?

since you'll get more bottles a day sooner

[signal osprey]

I dont think it actually matters much if you have the bundle purchased

[strong nova]

where the surplus bottle spend into

[sleek tree]

where expend shimmer island money?

[prisma drift]

Talent book

[opaque sun]

Shimmer island talent book is a scam

Best to gamble for talent book much much later

[prisma drift]

I must gamba

It is the only option

[strong nova]

what all the new talent book

is there a list

trash also have it

[dapper prism]

Not all but this basic guide is around:
https://i.imgur.com/wACmQ8e.jpg

[dapper prism]

Someone posted the bribes earlier

[prisma drift]

How much afk gains does that give

For y’all endgamers with good slabs

[signal osprey]

At .007% probably nothing. Need to know what it looks like at 200

[prisma drift]

Maybe lava didn’t do diminishing returns and it gets better with more levels

[signal osprey]

[strong nova]

just wait till wiki update

[signal osprey]

But given how low the starting value is I would assume at most you'll get maybe 5% afk assuming you have most/all event drops

[dapper prism]

someone posted screenies earlier and they got an easy 2-3% afaik

[prisma drift]

Big 3%

[dapper prism]

and they only had a few bil dmg?

[signal osprey]

Did they say how many items they had slabbed?

[strong nova]

not even better than god rank lel

[opaque sun]

It becomes 3% afk gain assuming you got all of the random event items

[edgy pine]

Imagine the ones that do real damage and have atoms leveled up

[signal osprey]

Well god ranks give div exp and damage whereas the talent gives afk gains so not sure what comparison youre trying to make here

[strong nova]

200 star talent is many

[edgy pine]

Then it actually does stuff

[dapper prism]

oh i mean the dps all stat one btw, not afk gain

[signal osprey]

Yeah that makes more sense

I was a little surprised when you said someone had that book considering almost nobody started rando island lol

[gritty sierra]

I think I messed up... my messages in a bottle all dusappeared

[prisma drift]

Hope you didn’t buy the gem shop bottles

[gritty sierra]

I zoned in then I went to bank to get the quest stuff and when I came back... they disappeared

[prisma drift]

Ah when I seen giant floating bottles I clicked them

[gritty sierra]

Fuck

I didnt buy any gem bottles though

[prisma drift]

That’s good

You lost a lot tho

[strong nova]

just wait couple days

[prisma drift]

You got extra for first day I think

[strong nova]

not end of the world, just 3 day late

you can try swap device if not synced yet

[gritty sierra]

Well... now I gotta fish to fkin 90

[strong nova]

well, new fishing area is lot more exp

[prisma drift]

Uh I wouldn’t do that personally

[strong nova]

and new stamp have better multi

[astral vapor]

we waited a month without new updates ... for this?

[prisma drift]

The level 90 quest needs new fish anyways

[strong nova]

this is great update, wdym

[prisma drift]

No point hitting 90 without new island anyways

[dapper prism]

20x
https://i.imgur.com/arxEczA.png

[gritty sierra]

Synced

Fuck

[opaque sun]

not much to do physically, but its a nice update overall

[prisma drift]

Well you can start exploring islands in a couple days

Not missing too much

[dapper meadow]

What determines the amount of bottles you get /day?

[opaque sun]

maybe the worst update for those noob who cant get out of the island if they spent their teleports

[dapper meadow]

I ended up buying the gem bottles

[signal osprey]

I personally dont see the issue with having a passive mechanic in an idle game

Not sure what people expect

[pulsar cliff]

^

[prisma drift]

I like it

I don’t like fishing island

[dapper prism]

idk expected some active fps!

[signal osprey]

And then lava will give us a hands on active mechanic and people will complain about having to many daily things to do for an idle game

[prisma drift]

I have to stop neglecting fishing now

[signal osprey]

Not really

[green eagle]

How do you NOT like fishing island?!??!?

[signal osprey]

Yeah you can get more fishing exp now but do you really need to though

[prisma drift]

Because my BB still has a void rod

[granite grove]

no free gems, bad update

[gritty sierra]

Don't forget to buy the 5 Holy pearls for 5 gems

[green eagle]

200m/hr exp

[dapper prism]

tyvm, i didnt even click them because i thought it'd be a waste xD

[green eagle]

[granite grove]

with what fish tier unlocked? down to red or sth? wondering

[prisma drift]

Indeed

I am just too lazy to make tools

[prisma drift]

That means I have to go through my storage and pull stuff out

[ember kite]

how big is your screen omg

[opaque sun]

the depth ring kind of a tedious to carry around on bb

[pearl cedar]

It's google remote desktop lol I zoomed in

[green eagle]

My BB has just under my vman who now makes 120m/hr. With vman bonuses my BB makes 200m/hr

[granite grove]

oh, i was wondering like what fish you got, since that affects fishing exp per hour, like

[ember kite]

I was gonna say like damn, my screenshots are big cause big screen but yours are like 20x bigger

[granite grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/438216759120756737/1135366891859361882/image.png

[green eagle]

And that is just the AFK screen

[green eagle]

Real gains are more

[green eagle]

Nice

[vagrant mountain]

[pulsar cliff]

Who can I ab solutely break for accuracy lol