Wtf
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
north juniper
I didn't read that well enough
signal osprey
No you can level them in the entire world
fast grail
if shrines are in w5 town, being in any map in w5 levels them
vagrant mountain
No you can level them in the entire world
i think im thinking about the bonus that makes it apply to every map instead of just the world
north juniper
Back to W5 town they go
fast grail
What level is that for it to reach that far
Minimum is 150
tall horizon
Back to W5 town they go
if they're close to leveling, might want to wait
fast grail
idk why my lab does that, but even the very very far right char connects to the furthers left one . . .
north juniper
if they're close to leveling, might want to wait
The biggest ones just leveled so this is great timing
gray thicket
Minimum is 150
That's going to take a whole year, two with my lowest level characters
tight ridge
lvl 150 for what ?
vagrant mountain
w6 wen
fast grail
minimum 150 lab level
tight ridge
tf why lab minimum 150
vagrant mountain
north juniper
Thats tomorrow's update <:grumblo_steal:1098050666028597320>
W6 isn't the coming update is it? Thought that was just expeditions
fast grail
tf why lab minimum 150
It just happens naturally over time 
tight ridge
does 150 let you connect everything with one character or something
vagrant mountain
everything thecontract says is gospel
signal osprey
W6 is the friends we made along the way
vagrant mountain
fast grail
does 150 let you connect everything with one character or something
No, since connected range is different, but makes it so any char is able to connect to any char
Actually wonder what meme line width I can get now
vagrant mountain
my lab is disgusting to look at with all the the lines
tight ridge
everything easily connects for me now im just getting the last levels one some chars so they have all chip slots open
vagrant mountain
i hide my characters behind jewels
north juniper
I'm just glad I don't have to mess with choosing lab nodes anymore
tight ridge
the cooking meals make lab connection easy
fast grail
i hide my characters behind jewels
yeah its bad
north juniper
I will say I'm looking forward to more lab nodes and jewels
vagrant mountain
maybe i can complete this achievement then
north juniper
Finally get those 2 extra merit points
fast grail
just quick meme, need to get my meals furthers up
vagrant mountain
north juniper
That's disgusting and beautiful at the same time
vagrant mountain
to the window...
little harbor
Will someone with an "S" Named character please help me finish this?
vagrant mountain
not me :(
north juniper
Same
fast grail
Will someone with an "S" Named character please help me finish this?
I got you, where you at?
fast grail
np, I forget what I need to say
fast grail
heavy moth
wonder whats the record for afk time
vagrant mountain
little harbor
i did 290 days, whatever that is
vagrant mountain
what is that like 3 years?
heavy moth
its 636 days
heavy moth
damn XD
opaque sun
which is like 20 min worth of gains in the current environment
opaque sun
if you can, get ram companion so you can carry all those drops maybe
vagrant mountain
save it for w6 hehe
north juniper
Spam that deposit all button like your life depends on it
heavy moth
yea its really bad the claiming XD only 300K kill and like 2 level my SB and on main account would be like 91 572 000 000 kills
fast grail
Ram does not exist, i refuse to believe it
opaque sun
But again, its like 20min worth of drops so doesnt matter if you just trash it
heavy moth
sadly no ram and no bag all lost XD
north juniper
Ram was my first pet ever
north juniper
CC farming is grind times best friend
north juniper
after rolling 40 times and spending $45 **
Hey me too!
And you know who doesn't want to come home?
pulsar cliff
Just W5 to go.
north juniper
Still this same damn crystal custard
vagrant mountain
i have all but custard too 
north juniper
I'll trade a ram for a crystal custard if I have to 😦
fast grail
I have 5 custard, Id be down for a ram trade if that ever gets implemented . .
vagrant mountain
hard 'if'
fast grail
hence i used the word "if" instead of "when"
north juniper
I have 5 custard, Id be down for a ram trade if that ever gets implemented . .
When it comes just ping me
vagrant mountain
i feel like trading is something lava is going to forget about
signal osprey
I'll get my doot soon 
fast grail
Will be another thing added to the list
zealous niche
want to trade my slime for your doot
vagrant mountain
zealous niche
signal osprey
vagrant mountain
honestly the thing i want most is an event so i can get some event food
i lost my mining pearls one day and it hasnt been the same since
zealous niche
It's meant to be summer
vagrant mountain
its august 
boreal cosmos
With doot do I still have to unlock all the gods to get their abilities?
zealous niche
Finally can get my event cards that are silver and bronze to gold at least
fast grail
I used mine up leveling my vman to 100 skills
Btw, did you used to play a long time ago, quit and now are back?
zealous niche
You need to have all chars level 2 div
boreal cosmos
Or as soon as a character hits divinity 2 all suddenly become active?
zealous niche
I had a period of low interaction between W3/4
vagrant mountain
Or as soon as a character hits divinity 2 all suddenly become active?
yes just throw all your characters on div
zealous niche
Or as soon as a character hits divinity 2 all suddenly become active?
I think it's this
boreal cosmos
Oh wow
signal osprey
i lost my mining pearls one day and it hasnt been the same since
With enough feasty you can eliminate the need for event food
zealous niche
But, to level up their blessings you still need to unlock them
boreal cosmos
Is there somewhere to show which ones are active on a character?
vagrant mountain
With enough feasty you can eliminate the need for event food
rly? my spd is 32 rn without food
signal osprey
Well you can use crafted food
zealous niche
Is there somewhere to show which ones are active on a character?
Lab is a good measure, since second deity is for making lab nodes active
signal osprey
I think I'm at like 58 or something with just crafted food now.
boreal cosmos
Okay cool as soon as everyone is 2 I'll check
zealous niche
so if you can take all chars out of the tubes and there's a blue powerbutton symbol and they're still lighting up nodes you're good
vagrant mountain
damn looks like im gonna need to farm king of food 😆
zealous niche
I'm assuming you don't have bear unlocked, so that should be a good test
wanton obsidian
Is lvl 400 tentacle on bubo technically possible?
boreal cosmos
I don't I unlocked serpent
I feel like tomorrow my progress is going to skyrocket
With this
zealous niche
north juniper
I feel like tomorrow my progress is going to skyrocket
signal osprey
damn looks like im gonna need to farm king of food 😆
Thats what the feasty is for. Farm enough and you won't even need trophy
vagrant mountain
hitting w5 with doot is just like getting on a rocketship lol
boreal cosmos
I'm excited to see what I can do with it..just gonna let them divinity overnight
vagrant mountain
Thats what the feasty is for. Farm enough and you won't even need trophy
do you know around what level i need feasty to be at?
i think im around 150 feasty
signal osprey
Well it will really depends on your cards too as you'll wanna push the speed cards to help out
toxic kraken
is there a plan to make farming efaunt faster?
vagrant mountain
true, i got all mining cards 3 star some 4
zealous niche
The right skill activation makes efaunt simple
vagrant mountain
wtb event
north juniper
I just needed 2 more and I was going to 4* it
signal osprey
Some solid bean farming will get those feasty levels in no time
As well as a bunch of other bonuses to your samples
vagrant mountain
true ive been putting off beans til ive finished lava skulling w1 so i can farm eclipse on dk
zealous niche
What is this feasty you're referring to? Can't find it, thought it was an orange bubble
signal osprey
Feasty statue
north juniper
Statue
signal osprey
Food effect %
zealous niche
ooooh
right
knew I'd seen it somewhere
what effect % are you getting from it to nearly max skilling speed?
zealous niche
I've got 271% from feasty, and just smithing log food is giving me 52/min
vagrant mountain
vagrant mountain
I've got 271% from feasty, and just smithing log food is giving me 52/min
cap is 62/min so almost
vagrant mountain
zealous niche
you can also level with the aligned class to get the discount until an unaligned has over 100M to use atoms without having to spend anywhere close to 100M resources
vagrant mountain
this one is fun too, i hope youve been keeping up with fishing hehe
zealous niche
The iron bars are killing me
vagrant mountain
yeah im using bargain tags on em
zealous niche
(not really, but also.. how..?)
signal osprey
what effect % are you getting from it to nearly max skilling speed?
Keep in mind this is what I have to nearly max it with jsut the crafted food. If you have event food it is significantly easier to max
vagrant mountain
god damn 460% 😱
zealous niche
My 270% was with vman buff too... 😦
fast grail
Keep in mind this is what I have to nearly max it with jsut the crafted food. If...
Where do you see this %?, looks like toolbox
fading dust
Are the new upgrade stones worth it?
vagrant mountain
contract playing a different game
signal osprey
It is toolbox. Click account and its on that first default page
It shows all your statues and you can hover them
fading dust
Deciding whether or not to use the new kattlekruk upgrade stones on my chaotic chizoar blankie
signal osprey
For what specifically? Every items break points are based on the default drop chance
vagrant mountain
oh maybe the breakpoint was for money multi
crisp silo
yall think we gonna get new chips?
vagrant mountain
i have a feeling we get new fish
twilit goblet
vagrant mountain
new vials maybe
fast grail
Only thing I am hoping for is that defense will be a shimmer trial
zealous niche
new vials maybe
I'm thinking new vials
twilit goblet
guys i just resampled everything ytd, then i switched islands and hit the skill eff eldritch fml
vagrant mountain
its so empty over here
zealous niche
If you notice the ropes, they're in pairs all the way along except for the end
So, two in the middle there, one to go with worm slice, and there's one a little earlier
crisp silo
guys i just resampled everything ytd, then i switched islands and hit the skill ...
do it agn
signal osprey
oh maybe the breakpoint was for money multi
Money multi is every 2x DR after 5x so 5x, 7x, 9x and so on
vagrant mountain
Money multi is every 2x DR after 5x so 5x, 7x, 9x and so on
oh ok ty
twilit goblet
i just watched a 47 minute video on mining sample 
crisp silo
every odd is money multi
signal osprey
I believe W1 statues are every xx.51 DR
vagrant mountain
ahh perf ty
twilit goblet
i feel u bro i kept doing it whenever i hit something new
signal osprey
I think it might finally be time for me to resample
I've been putting it off for awhile now
crisp silo
yr samples are prob high enough, you can wait till newupdate i guess
signal osprey
Yeah it'll be after the update for sure
We've already seen one efficiency stamp so there might be more and I'd like to get them before sampling if I can
crisp silo
cant wait to see yr new fish samples
signal osprey
Honestly my fish samples are probably gonna go up a lot ngl
My orange cauldron has always been a little neglected compared to purple but after my last sample I made sure to work on that
Warrior prints are gonna go up a hell of a lot more than my mages do on this sample
fast grail
I've been putting it off for awhile now <:GuyMontag:859584397539278859>
Same, last time i properly sampled logs was before vman
Getting all sampling bubbles to 95% before i do it tho
gives me more time to stall
signal osprey
I'm done with that part though which is why I should probably stop putting it off
Besides the W5 slab ones but those scale horribly so I dont plan to push them to 95%
fast grail
ok, was actually just about to ask about those
fast grail
not counting slab ones, only one I have left is servapurple
signal osprey
Mines almost 95% but I've just been printing it rather than using atoms
It should only be a few days before it gets to 95 though
fast grail
I should probably print for it
signal osprey
Last bubble I've been doing for samples was 720 shimmeron but I finish that tomorrow so I guess its back to bob now
Even did another 5% on dchef to try for another level on efficiency meals
fast grail
Oh nice, dont think my shimmeron is quite that high, not gonna bother tho since i recently did mining samples
signal osprey
It still gives wis from the all stat food too
fast grail
oh damn you right, i forgot about that
signal osprey
And defense from gold meat pies 🧠
fast grail
Oh trust me, that i know
When i was doing the final pushed I tried it out but it still gave less def than just more fmj
Normal chow? the 1m one?
signal osprey
100k-200k should be good enough for normal chows yeah
nova heath
how do i get another captain
signal osprey
I dont remember what I was at when I did it but I know I would be happy with those numbers
crisp silo
how do i get another captain
buy the slot, but the cap
nova heath
im at 10k kph on gmush :/
fast grail
Yeah, 200k would be plenty for normal chow, might be best to just do like w1-w2, maybe w3, but not if kph drops too much
nova heath
buy the slot, but the cap
does the capt justappear when i buy another boat slot or what
crisp silo
does the capt justappear when i buy another boat slot or what
nah u get a slot that allows u more space for a cap, otherwise need to sell one of the current caops
nova heath
i bought another slot for a cap but its empty dk if i just need to wait or something
crisp silo
i bought another slot for a cap but its empty dk if i just need to wait or somet...
move to the rght
look at the caps
choose one to hire
barren otter
look what you did
nova heath
is the sailing/gaming level shared across all characters?
vagrant mountain
polar iron
yall buy the bobjoepickle from the shop?
heavy moth
rip just upgraded the pickle vial XD
nova heath
cool
polar iron
I have a feeling a stamp might require bobjoepickle to upgrade
vagrant mountain
i have a feeling my bobjoepickle vial is gonna be level 1 forever
chow doesnt increase meal speed
chow increases your ladles
fast grail
Only consider doing superchow when you are getting millions of kph
gritty sierra
what are yalls poing scores like?
barren otter
i stopped at 26k
gritty sierra
i cant get above 8k X_X
vagrant mountain
barren otter
nova heath
when do you unlock poing
barren otter
honestly dont remember
zealous niche
Gaming is really about the nug roll
placid mural
big sad
zealous niche
12k nug to get snail
potent gust
time to sleep, can't wait to get all the nice xp
gritty sierra
X_X
nova heath
time to sleep, can't wait to get all the nice xp
that seems really low
gritty sierra
that is really low
potent gust
that seems really low
I'm curious in why then
Not like i was more used to 1M exp / hour rofl
nova heath
whats yo damage at
potent gust
3.4M iirc
granite grove
probably didnt hit damage cap yet, use damage cards to boost kph and exp
potent gust
I use them already
granite grove
min dmg not needed for afk gains
gritty sierra
accuracy? porque
granite grove
also why dont you have amarok card 4 starred? you have just 5% afk
4 star amarok for easy fight afk stats
gritty sierra
and that white poop lookin one
granite grove
yeah my bad, i mean why not 4 star cAmarok
zealous niche
and that white poop lookin one
boops
fast grail
Do not think minimum damage helps with reaching kill cap
nova heath
i havent really looked at amarok for a while
gritty sierra
aye
potent gust
Also for the first map
nova heath
do you have custard pet
potent gust
no
potent gust
Yeah i was not finding anything weird with my setup tbh
nova heath
100% DR and exp
zealous niche
It's not, just +1 to whatever your DR and class exp values are
nova heath
but even if you had custard you would be 30m exp behind
zealous niche
It's the Afk gains rate that's messing you up
nova heath
It's the Afk gains rate that's messing you up
im at same afk gains with triple exp
potent gust
1.84
zealous niche
hm, survivabilities both 100%?
dreamy igloo
anyone else buy a pickle or just me 👀
potent gust
Yep
nova heath
mine is
fast grail
Might not be hitting kill cap, make sure to equip attacks
zealous niche
I always buy a pickle (when I remember)
nova heath
they have 50% more kph than me
signal osprey
Speed pots
nova heath
nope
zealous niche
It's their class exp multiplier, get that GT bubble up
nova heath
vladcik whats your class exp multi
zealous niche
They said 1.8 which is just over half yours
potent gust
And my GT is level 10 (but active) yeah
nova heath
mines level 2 lmfao
potent gust
I've been focusing on other stuff on my alchemy that woops
zealous niche
You're also getting a +1 due to custard, which is a doubling at your values pretty much
nova heath
does custard show here?
potent gust
(Like i'm focusing on damages / fmj)
nova heath
or is it actually 4.35
potent gust
zealous niche
Yeah, so without custard you'd have 2.92 and 2.35
nova heath
im just confused where the rest of the exp is but its not that big of a deal
zealous niche
Luck gives class exp
dreamy igloo
Grind time boost class exp
fast grail
Also just thought of another reason there might be a descripency, base multi-kill as its hard to see how much you actually have without multikilling
livid raft
Grind time was one thing I actually did get to 1K pretty fast.. bubo makes it super easy though lol
potent gust
Also just thought of another reason there might be a descripency, base multi-kil...
I don't have any mk here
potent gust
Hm where can I find that one ?
fast grail
from thinggs like the deathnote building level, think some stamps
prisma drift
Those still need a tier no?
prisma drift
When I don’t have multi it shows nothing is it just a background thing then?
fast grail
Correct
prisma drift
Interesting revelations
vagrant mountain
multikill only applies when your afk info is purple
potent gust
that one ?
vagrant mountain
there is a 1x multikill tier
fast grail
Thats for multi-kill per tier, there is still multi kill without tiers
potent gust
the whole afk screen
vagrant mountain
no i dont think you get multikill without purple afk info bar
potent gust
stats
zealous niche
Thats for multi-kill per tier, there is still multi kill without tiers
Do you mean kill per kill?
fast grail
no i dont think you get multikill without purple afk info bar
If that was the case, kills like this would not be possible
zealous niche
Things like kills per kill and nobi and lab bonus? do you mean those
vagrant mountain
If that was the case, kills like this would not be possible
zealous niche
you don't get multikill without having 2x their health in damage
vagrant mountain
yes and that is when you get first 1x multikill
prisma drift
Dang 700k without multi tiers is pretty crazy tho
vagrant mountain
and base multikill applies on that
prisma drift
I get like 150k without multi tiers
potent gust
even with that I only hit 70M
prisma drift
Right but that’s 3 times my base kph is what I was getting at 
molten scarab
is updayte out ?
fast grail
Do you mean kill per kill?
Pontentially yeah, could have sworn multi-kill worked without damage tiers, guess not, just tested with obols
muted bramble
I need a giga brain gamer to help me understand a prayer
zealous niche
is updayte out ?
zealous niche
I need a giga brain gamer to help me understand a prayer
Are you livin' on a prayer? cause I don't know if my voice is up for that
muted bramble
Are you livin' on a prayer? cause I don't know if my voice is up for that
its about this
so does it only need to be on the person that puts down the trap, or does it need to be on the character that you are putting the trap down for ?
like does it only need to be on my BS to work for my other character ?
zealous niche
neither, it needs to be on the one who collects the trap
prisma drift
Your BS
fast grail
Hmm, any other sources of equipable raw multi aside from obols?
granite grove
keychains and the dungeon pendant
zealous niche
Eff and exp is needed on the one placing the trap, doesn't matter who they're placing it for, the trap will get the benefit of the eff and exp
shiny chances is for the one collecting the trap
vagrant mountain
Hmm, any other sources of equipable raw multi aside from obols?
hallowed pendant?
the 30% multikill one
fast grail
oh good call, lemme check
vagrant mountain
also nuget hat
zealous niche
Gem obols are the only per tier one, that necklace is base
granite grove
plz test the difference, just so to know if the base MK finally has a use or sth
vagrant mountain
im curious too, i never actually tested it i just deduced it
also rift mobs have a ridiculous mob count so that is also a factor
fast grail
hmm, actually might have a better way to test, vman doesnt quite have enough damage to be kill capping 51T hp mobs
oh, actually had the dr prayer on . . .any ways this other way should be better
vagrant mountain
it would be better if you tested it on someone who is kill capped right? that way number only moves if multikill affects it
zealous niche
I wanna science it up, not having 10,000 changes
hardy bloom
i bought using ez access, but nothing happened
dreamy igloo
same
zealous niche
is something meant to happen?
vagrant mountain
i bought using ez access, but nothing happened
zealous niche
wait, that stamp is in game?
hardy bloom
did it drop that?
zealous niche
I thought that was coming in update
granite grove
not yet but later
hardy bloom
or
fast grail
please no, dont make that shit use pickles
vagrant mountain
no use bjp to upgrade it
zealous niche
damn.
nova heath
does anyone know where the copy of the guide or just the gemshop tierlist is?
zealous niche
How am I meant to get a level 13 pickle vial now
nova heath
thank you
fast grail
ok, so actually guess i was wrong about multi-kill, only actually applies when damage tiers occurs, but kpk still works without multikill
granite grove
ty for testing
vagrant mountain
ok, so actually guess i was wrong about multi-kill, only actually applies when d...
thanks for testing
granite grove
so yeah base MK trash stat as it always was
vagrant mountain
yup kekeke
granite grove
just if lava changes all base MK to MK tier, like even do some nerfs to accodomate for the change if necessary
fast grail
KPK is great tho
zealous niche
eehhh, in niche circumstances yes
fast grail
Basically when no multi-kill
vagrant mountain
only pushing portals / dn
hardy bloom
is active still better than 155% afk gain rate?
vagrant mountain
doesnt affect mob drops afaik
granite grove
like change that bronze MK obol from 1% base to 0.25% tier if needed or sth, base Mk needs love
vagrant mountain
base mk is noob trap
hardy bloom
so i should just afk? @vagrant mountain
vagrant mountain
cant make game too easy
hardy bloom
thank you sir
placid mural
so i should just afk? <@87010379640602624>
with skilling, afk is almost always better
zealous niche
is active still better than 155% afk gain rate?
Active means 100% gains rate
hardy bloom
i thought active was better for miner because of the big pick skill
zealous niche
so once you get over 100% then you'll get more gains being afk
signal osprey
Big pick increases afk gains too
zealous niche
(ignoring respawn mechanics, portal and orb)
hardy bloom
ill just active at TVs then, gotta get that w4 splicer
vagrant mountain
this makes big pick better too
nova heath
oh fr?
glad crow
so did we find out what the whole pickle thing was
nova heath
big
vagrant mountain
its to upgrade fishing stamp
zealous niche
Nah, we're still in the pickle of
signal osprey
Its probably part of a quest line for expeditions
signal osprey
its to upgrade fishing stamp
The stamp uses balljoe not bobjoe
zealous niche
Its probably part of a quest line for expeditions
Watch people scream if the unlock requirement is 20 pickles
granite grove
i heard there is a nothing island, so BJP might be used in that
or to level BJP vial for that island, dunno
vagrant mountain
The stamp uses balljoe not bobjoe <:grumblo_thumbsup:1101692875248521366>
ive been looking for an excuse to buy pachinko balls
livid raft
Wonder if I should use W5 stones on my Magma armor (making it now.. gotta find boots blueprint still though) or wait for W6?
zealous niche
definitely w5
vagrant mountain
use em on one set and if its good, keep, if its bad, upgrade
zealous niche
w6 isn't scheduled into a proper timeline
granite grove
also dont upgrade to kattle gear, except for helm boots if you want DR
kattlekruk gear is for utility, not damage unlike magma
zealous niche
They're talking w5 v 6 not w5 v kruk
vagrant mountain
chest legs good for afk
granite grove
ik just to add
also yeah just use w5 stones for it
livid raft
Alright. I'm making magma to try and help push rift.. but I'm only making 1 set rn because Im poor lol
granite grove
w6 prob still long way to go
vagrant mountain
fast grail
It was about 4.5 months from the first w5 spoiler to w5 release, and with the other stuff he wants to release, its safe to say we are at minimum 5 months or so out from w6
versed cypress
he did confirmed completition updates for both w4 and w5 so yeah id say around 6 months is a good estimate for w6
placid mural
im so excited for when we get characters 11&12 can you imagine having a fresh character with all of the bonus's you have build up over the months?
granite grove
cant wait for 1Q dmg lv1 beginner
fast grail
Dont think we really need extra chars rn
placid mural
there will at least be 12 though
fast grail
We used to desperately need a 10th char because of lab
placid mural
at some point
vagrant mountain
i just hope island expeditions is a lot of content to hold us back til w6 or theres something in between
versed cypress
we will get anpough chars to get 1 of each of the final classes
fast grail
9 chars having so many in lab was absolutely brutal
placid mural
lol lvl 1 beginner with 10k GT geting 43 levels from killing 1 Gmush
versed cypress
and yet now that we have the option to have them out ppl just dont know how to manage 10 chars out of the lab
fast grail
simple, slam on all gmush and get money
vagrant mountain
ez
zealous niche
freshly spawned beginner having more damage than what people are entering w5 with
fast grail
skill if they cant use dreadlo
otherwise farm kruk keys
or gmush
or dn
plenty to do
versed cypress
most ppl that dont know what to do with their chars arent even in a possition to do any of that xDD
fast grail
better to see not as single chars, but the swarm
vagrant mountain
fast grail
was sending the swarm through w1 for 1b dn
placid mural
i have 8/10 working on Eclipse, Vman fishing, and my current active ES getting hampters
fast grail
Honestly only reason i am doing gmush is that I have neglected for way too long, has been sitting at 4b kills for like a year now
placid mural
how many kills per hour do you get?
fast grail
kinda low, they dont have the best chains, 4-10m depending on char
vagrant mountain
i got 436m , im the guy that has to lava skull everything before farming more gmush
fast grail
Thats what happened to me, and then eclipse skulls came out like 2 days before i finished 100m dn
vagrant mountain
"almost do- ah shit"
placid mural
my best is my top ES with about 14m
raven fog
Why y’all buying pickles
zealous niche
Why y’all buying pickles
fast grail
Best guess right now is they are upgrade mat for stamp
or multiple are needed for expeiditions in some way
vagrant mountain
no
crisp silo
never
raven fog
Ig working on vman lvlvs is even more worth it now
raven fog
We're playing simon says
Ok
crisp silo
fishibbg prob will never catch up to log samples unless something can do what that log talent does, but for fish
raven fog
Wait for me ligs and ores are about the same
vagrant mountain
also the chopping and mining bubbles that scale with hp/mp
raven fog
Maybe there will be a stamp for all skills
zealous niche
Maybe there will be a stamp for all skills
Already is
zealous niche
Wait for me ligs and ores are about the same
hm.. something ain't right
opaque sun
maybe the game will require like 1000 of them to access expedition
zealous niche
maybe the game will require like 1000 of them to access expedition
There'll be a riot if it needs 10
raven fog
maybe the game will require like 1000 of them to access expedition
Oh no
raven fog
There'll be a riot if it needs 10
😂
opaque sun
Imagine an update that takes 3 years to actually start
stiff kayak
anything special about this?
vagrant mountain
zealous niche
Simon says buy a pickle
fast grail
Can finally get blueberry
vagrant mountain
blueberry?
zealous niche
Only my summer cards and one valentine are under gold
fast grail
DR card
zealous niche
Mr Blueberry is a summer event card
vagrant mountain
fast grail
fast grail
Better DR than mimic
fast grail
slightly worse than bop box
vagrant mountain
it better or im pitchforking gen chat
raven fog
That’s equal to the speaker monster
fast grail
That’s equal to the speaker monster
Nah, speaker has 17 at 4 star, blueberry is 15 at 4 star
zealous niche
What's a good source of the basic health and mana pots?
Need 60M health pots to greenstack them and the log food too
zealous niche
basic
fast grail
Sticks iirc
zealous niche
The cylinder shaped ones
zealous niche
Alright, I'm trying to greenstack instablabs and the quest only item, I'll move to sticks after that
north juniper
Trying to debate on sleeping or waiting for this update
fast grail
its on the mob's card tho, so ES works
red cloak
Trying to debate on sleeping or waiting for this update
I have just woken up so don't worry ill stay up for you, sleep sweet prince
little pagoda
Is there any benefit to going to super high streaks on post office? Or should I reset every so often?
fast grail
For po1, just keep going up, its fairly easy, but for like po6, reset since it has very very high costs
little pagoda
The problem is some of my prints like fishing probably can't keep up,
fast grail
might have other issues aside from pushing po1 then
resources might be better spent in alch
dapper prism
The problem is some of my prints like fishing probably can't keep up,
Also for PO6, you usually dont complete all the orders, and just skip/reset everything except for colo ticket orders.
For PO1 the worst orders usually that are hard to keep up will be anvil produced stuff and bars. Since the rest is easily grinded/printed
little pagoda
might have other issues aside from pushing po1 then
Love how passive agressive some of the answers are sometimes lol
dapper prism
It's honestly true though, if fish is your issue for PO1 order in W5, that's kinda bad
little pagoda
I can do both alch an PO boxes no problem, bottleneck is still pens but PO box helps with crystal chance so there's that
Yes I have other things to work on I'm aware
Alch bottleneck is stil liquid due to no CC
crisp silo
dang its been awhile since someone here mentioned pen bottleneck
little pagoda
Still trying to push max talent
Pen farming is just something I'm doing on the side while getting gman reqs and stuff
dapper prism
after getting crystal cards and choco chip, early on you get an easy 30+ pens/h with low DR.
fast grail
Love how passive agressive some of the answers are sometimes lol
Just trying to give advice that would help, not directly trying to be
dapper prism
Later on you get an easy 100-150 pens/h
little pagoda
after getting crystal cards and choco chip, early on you get an easy 30+ pens/h ...
Choco chip isn't until december
Crystal cards I have maxed
PO box gives me a bit more crystal chance
Also levelling shrine
It's ramping up slowly
I'm just doing it on dedotated rams that Ineed for vman
And bloodbone
dapper prism
you dont grind pens on vman, u use dk
little pagoda
Yeah on dk, I mean the 1m kills req
dapper prism
What 1m kills?
little pagoda
Yes yes I know, I'm doing it on DK don't worry
Well BB would take ages
I will chow him when it's easier tbh
dapper prism
Works too, sorry meant you were doing it with vman
little pagoda
I'll still do a few with candies on him but not too much
Probably when i'm dona with dedoated ram I'll see what I can get with bb
But like, even on gmush he only get 50k ish kills lol
I'll redo prints when I unlock skill mastery probably tomorrow-ish, and by then more fishing from expedition so that will line up nicely
paper mist
what kinda stats do i need to do nightmare troll?
dapper prism
Will treat progress be reset when new companions come around?
Was any of that confirmed or mentioned?
Like it shouldn't reset right, since it's not indicated anywhere and that would be misleading when it mentions it's guaranteed.
hardy bloom
is there any chance lava's gonna include free auto loot on the update? iirc, we were told that free auto loot will come with pets
dapper prism
Thats true
haughty cove
is there any chance lava's gonna include free auto loot on the update? iirc, we ...
free auto loot is great for ppl who can't spend money honestly
i would love to get it
hardy bloom
i literally had to filter tv main drop so that it will not contribute to more fps drop
granite grove
if its gem purchase instead of pack purchase for autoloot
hardy bloom
if there was a way to filter coins i wouldve done it too
tall dirge
bro... one day on xp cogs and ive doubled my build rate.
haughty cove
if there was a way to filter coins i wouldve done it too
same
north juniper
Finally tackling this 200
haughty cove
i dont feel you could reach 200 tho
north juniper
One can dream 😦
haughty cove
granite grove
is the refiller buff 4.48k or 448 seconds?
dapper prism
A friend is at this point, they already have a doot and they are wondering if they should go for it or wait basically:
https://i.imgur.com/l2601wU.png
north juniper
The skull is in the way so I can't really tell
dapper prism
The skull is in the way so I can't really tell
Just tell by the 3rd number.. does it go down every second or every 10 seconds..
haughty cove
A friend is at this point, they already have a doot and they are wondering if th...
just wait
granite grove
need to ask lava about pity rolling to next batch ig
north juniper
10 seconds
dapper prism
How to go about "asking lava" can we message a mod basically to get info forwarded?
granite grove
or that
dapper prism
True
haughty cove
well im wondring what well the next highest pet would do
stronger then doot? i don't think so
north juniper
I mean i'm sure there are mechanics beyond w5 which it may affect
granite grove
get 1 large balloon for each 1hr of afk
north juniper
So it's really a toss up
fast grail
Not too many more things for pets to currently affect, only thing I can think of off the top of my head is prayers, can see a pet giving bonuses of all prayers w/o downsides
haughty cove
Not too many more things for pets to currently affect, only thing I can think of...
OUR he can add pet that give like 50% all stats
its well be game changing
maybe 100%
fast grail
Well, one thing that would be changing is all personal obols count for all characters
haughty cove
Well, one thing that would be changing is all personal obols count for all chara...
yah thats work to
north juniper
Drop rate goes brrrrrrrrr
fast grail
50% all stats isnt even too insane though
haughty cove
50% all stats isnt even too insane though
mhm
granite grove
x25 DR for sure with that obols
fast grail
I mean no doubt its insanely strong, but not doot level
but all obols would be pretty close to doot level
haughty cove
I mean no doubt its insanely strong, but not doot level
fair enough
fast grail
That is a more realistic sounding one, but who knows, pets threw all value of balence out of the window
north juniper
10 waves left!
haughty cove
10 waves left!
gl
haughty cove
That is a more realistic sounding one, but who knows, pets threw all value of ba...
maybe a pet that gives 20× drop rate
that would be insane
lavish fractal
if I click the shovel when the 1 hour isn't up yet, does the timer reset?
that's so annoying
feral hemlock
Does this increase anything if i have more than 150%afk?
north juniper
Don't think so from the wording. I basically left mine after I read it.
wanton obsidian
How do U do this achievement?
lofty grove
If i remember right stand behind shop keep on w5
wanton obsidian
I found it alr but Ty
uncut bear
So, two hours is Minimum traveltime for sailing?
zealous niche
Does this increase anything if i have more than 150%afk?
Make sure to read the bonuses properly.
The shrine gives no bonus over 150% afk gains rate, but the construction upgrade is giving bonus to the leveling speed of the shrine.
The shrine’s level determines the afk gains bonus, not what you’ve screenshotted
north juniper
Mission success!
north juniper
Make sure you see it updated on IE before you quit
Gotcha. Will do!
zealous niche
If you die it also updates, but have had people quit and it not register properly
north juniper
If you die it also updates, but have had people quit and it not register properl...
I should be good right?
zealous niche
I should be good right?
You good!
lost topaz
Is it normal that lab chips don't move my efficiency after a certian point? I'm trying x3 +20% Skill efficiency and it's not moving. Same with x3 +250 base skill efficiency.
rapid aurora
yep
lost topaz
yep
And the only way to see which is better is by going, sampling, changing, and sampling again im guessing? does any site provide the true efficiency number instead of the abbreviated number where I could like... cloud save and check instead of running around?
**Site not side
rapid aurora
nah only way to check is going back to w4 lab
lost topaz
nah only way to check is going back to w4 lab
Darn ok ttytyty
rapid aurora
you eventually will work out the best chips for what you have
or what you can use
or just use a generic set for skilling/afk/active
lost topaz
Yea for a while mining was better with the +250 base. I'm thinking it hasn't changed but haven't really compared in over a month. Was like 4b last time I sampled and now im 45+b
lost topaz
thats the chips i use for skilling atm
no pendant doubler?
tall horizon
lost topaz
my pendant not the w5 1 yet
Don't you have dungeon one though? wouldn't that still be better to double?
yea that one from rash
rapid aurora
dont have pesterphone need to do some more dungeons :kekw:
lost topaz
dont have pesterphone need to do some more dungeons :kekw:
Gotcha. Happy hour not for 5 hours damn was gonna offer to run with ya.
rapid aurora
5hrs 💤
pale tusk
Hey folks, got a question about Alchemy. Not sure if the question belongs here or in the w2 channel (I'm in w5). What do you spend the second (and third) liquid type on? I never seem to have materials to upgrade any of the bubbles. The ones with skilling resources are already quite high to the point that I only can upgrade them like once a day with printed resources. The other ones would require me to actively farm w3-4 areas with my ES which means I couldn't progress anywhere else. https://superwayne.idleonefficiency.com/
untold saffron
Hey folks, got a question about Alchemy. Not sure if the question belongs here o...
in the long run you will have enough resources, before then theres the second page alchemy shop
zealous niche
I currently use all my second and third on buying obols trying to get the last obol I need ticked off slab
untold saffron
theres also atom upgrades and liquidcauldron upgrades
zealous niche
Card drop obol is only obtainable through liquid shop
wind umbra
I used to use them to discount bubbles so it was easier to make them reach atomable range
pale tusk
in the long run you will have enough resources, before then theres the second pa...
I usually spend it on the discount on the second page but then run out of third and I'm left with ~200 of the second.
pale tusk
That's my go to place for dumping it but it feels so pointless to waste so much liquid just for 1% rate or 1 cap haha
zealous niche
Remember the viaduct of the gods lab node multiplies base capacity
pale tusk
Okay, so it's just a matter of dumping it for now and wait until I progress enough to make better use of it?
dapper prism
https://i.gyazo.com/09285ed77a36f1f3860c6351c5a11b0a.png
Should definetely prioritze rate more first
untold saffron
zealous niche
Rank up rank up rank up
eternal dove
Such a sadge day
vagrant mountain
Such a sadge day
me too
eternal dove
Feelsbadman
zealous niche
That almost there always feels worse than a way off one
buoyant valley
im at a loss for how to improve dmg drastically, its just small but steady increments
https://enragedkitty.idleonefficiency.com
zealous niche
Greenstacks and eclipse skulls would be the big but incremental sources
How's artifacts and kruk gear going?
Bubble levels?
Those are your big sources of damage
buoyant valley
linked ie, got about 55 greenstacks. just have 1 eclipse skull currently. can get more
zealous niche
Greenstacks would be easy for your game stage I recon
buoyant valley
yea, eclipse skull also pretty easy
zealous niche
I have 131 and only just finished doing all mob sources and main skilling materials
Greenstacks should be faster
Well, you could do both
buoyant valley
yea
zealous niche
Active ES to greenstack and rest to afk eclipse skull progress?
buoyant valley
currently sitting on 7 char at hampters
zealous niche
Printing skilling resources to greenstack
buoyant valley
trying to get 10 mat bags
zealous niche
Good idea
buoyant valley
might make 1 or 2 and active es
have 600 hampters, currently
as for kruk gear. can pretty much do all except scarf
just need mats, and vman dmg
zealous niche
But with the gear pictured above, you just need teeth to give full gear (except scarf)
unreal fox
hi guys, i want to link arctis and harrierp ( 2 es) ?
zealous niche
Just wating on teeth?
buoyant valley
pretty much, yea
zealous niche
hi guys, i want to link arctis and harrierp ( 2 es) ?
That's the most common link for ES double links yeah 🙂
unreal fox
That's the most common link for ES double links yeah 🙂
so we cant link 2 lab and 3x printer at same time?
unreal fox
It gives you 6x prints while not being in lab
I want to know how to connect them @@!
zealous niche
Ok, you didn't say so earlier
You link them the normal way with one of the deities you want, then use their skill to link to the other
unreal fox
i meant remove nobisect current link and link to arctis
zealous niche
Is nobisect linked through their skill or direct link?
If you go and look at one of their polytheism skills what does it say you're linked to
unreal fox
ah, link to arctis (labs) first then harriep right?
zealous niche
I can't remember the difference between the two options
feral hemlock
Make sure to read the bonuses properly.
The shrine gives no bonus over 150% afk...
So as the shrine levels up the afk gain tresshold is gonna rise? And eventually at like 300%afk gain will start working and giving bonus?
zealous niche
So as the shrine levels up the afk gain tresshold is gonna rise? And eventually ...
No, that's not what I was trying to say
Currently, my level 17 shrine is giving +2% to afk gains rate, and its leveling speed is being boosted by 280% from the construction bonus.
So, if a char would be put over 150% by the +2%, the shrine would do nothing
but it still levels 280% faster than normal because of the construction bonus
feral hemlock
but it still levels 280% faster than normal because of the construction bonus
Ok so its practically useless with 150+afk gain
zealous niche
I thought you were wondering if you were getting leveling bonus because your leveling bonus was over 150%
feral hemlock
Nah
zealous niche
My confusion then
feral hemlock
Thanks 🙂
gentle furnace
I want to know how to connect them @@!
i use first link to connect harriep then on fight preset i link to bear and while in lab(skilling preset) i link to omni
vagrant mountain
is this 200 or 225?
glad hamlet
225
vagrant mountain
so can you not get this?
edgy pendant
What, there’s a cap to afk gains??
glad crow
What, there’s a cap to afk gains??
i dont think so
zealous niche
No, just a cap to assistance from shrine for afk gains
haughty cove
What, there’s a cap to afk gains??
no
haughty cove
No, just a cap to assistance from shrine for afk gains
last shrine is just usless
need a rework
zealous niche
Don't you want to wait 3420954713019247890912 hours for 0.1% benefit?
haughty cove
not worth at all
zealous niche
How rude
edgy pendant
No, just a cap to assistance from shrine for afk gains
I see! Thanks 🙂
zealous niche
Kids these days are so impatient
haughty cove
tall dirge
help
tall dirge
damage is like 50m -78m
prisma drift
I am putting off doing task 10
zealous niche
You just have to run side to side to kill off moles before they get to kruk and then just hit kruk in between
prisma drift
My vman has the damage for n kattle but do I have the patience to manually do it for 45 minutes idk
zealous niche
Tedious but not hard
tall dirge
how long do you think it would take me with 78m damage on chaotic
like the bar meant that it were like 10 minutes, 1 mistake if that makes sense
i mean if it were like 1 mistake every 15 minutes id be making progress
zealous niche
I can kill c kruk a second before the first mole reaches it with 2.2b
So, not sure how it scales from there
tall dirge
im too tired to ask how you got that much damage ill ask tomorrow goodnight lol
ripe star
Are greenstacks multiplicative?
zealous niche
They’re additive with each other, not sure if they’re multiplicative with other damage sources though
ripe star
Makes sense. Thanks 
tacit tulip
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
I'm amazed I was wrong lmao
prisma drift
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1034167878775222333/113728170049...
Lava wanted to wait for you he told me
haughty cove
tacit tulip
I'm still not home for 6 hours so there's a chance
ancient vine
multikill bonus affect active kills too? i mean for more monster materials with ES
blood bones are hard to get with afk
dreamy spruce
multikill bonus affect active kills too? i mean for more monster materials with ...
Yes
faint yew
I just unlocked anvil tab 4 - what should I be focusing on now? Most chars in chizoar/ void gear
prisma drift
I just unlocked anvil tab 4 - what should I be focusing on now? Most chars in ch...
Skilling tools and equips are always nice imo
Better to get ‘em early then to not get them like me
faint yew
Okay cool, thanks!
sonic monolith
Can anyone tell me what snail upgrades are?
dreamy spruce
snail bit bonus is just 2^snail level afaik
dreamy spruce
its one of the gaming imports
rustic cloak
How much damage do you need to defeat kattlecruk?
spare otter
frigid acorn
mint topaz
Hi guys, I see that worshipping bear god makes you active in lab but blocks you getting lab exp.
Can anyone confirm if a bear god worshipper will still get the passive exp from having a shaman in lab?
tacit tulip
They do
The buff is worded kinda poorly
All sources of lab exp are unchanged with bear
You just dont get exp as though you were in lab, while out of lab
plush spear
Hi guys, I see that worshipping bear god makes you active in lab but blocks you ...
Did you have doot?
vagrant mountain
you said my name?
plush spear
vagrant mountain
granite grove
bear is simply not get lab exp while linked while out of lab, unless if that character is specifically in lab then it will get exp (but also effectively making the bear god obsolete)
vagrant mountain
Hi guys, I see that worshipping bear god makes you active in lab but blocks you ...
you will still get lab exp from shaman skill u
mint topaz
Excellent, thanks guys
Though I feel my shaman will be upset, he's been parked in lab for months, he was looking forward to getting something else to do
vagrant mountain
plush spear
Is this upgrade works the same like laaarrry or what 🤔
granite grove
yes but for cauldron levels only
untold saffron
normal kattles have the highest pendant/key rate right?
dreamy spruce
Though I feel my shaman will be upset, he's been parked in lab for months, he wa...
once you get to talent lvl 200 he'll have other stuff to do
plush spear
Hmmm weird, i never seen +3 proc even
vagrant mountain
quiet pewter
Is this upgrade works the same like laaarrry or what 🤔
sort of it doesnt affect bubbles, only caldron levels
vagrant mountain
yeah it only affects the other stats like speed luck cost
dreamy spruce
buffs itself too
plush spear
sort of it doesnt affect bubbles, only caldron levels
Oooh it's not for bubbles?
quiet pewter
no
vagrant mountain
tbh not sure if it was worth maxing all the cauldron upgrades
dreamy spruce
Oooh it's not for bubbles?
Thats why it says for brew double level, whereas cost says bubble
quiet pewter
but youll still want it fir your caydron
noble mesa
U can get +5 u have 40% to get it
plush spear
Ohh gotit
vagrant mountain
could have had like 500 more GT levels
dreamy spruce
how? did you not have 3 in liquid 1 at all times?
dreamy spruce
ah
lyric sequoia
tfw you have more 1B DN skulls in w5 than in w1
dreamy spruce
should I max cauldron cost too? heard its not that good cuz it delays when you hit atom range on some bubbles
lyric sequoia
Not a whole lot more to do with 8 characters 95% of the time, may as well shove them all on zones for skulls
vagrant mountain
should I max cauldron cost too? heard its not that good cuz it delays when you h...
doesnt make a huge difference imo, maybe later on but it might help you level later bubbles quicker
dreamy spruce
doesnt make a huge difference imo, maybe later on but it might help you level la...
Alright, thanks
tacit tulip
Not a whole lot more to do with 8 characters 95% of the time, may as well shove ...
Think if I ever got doot that'd be my goal. Just 1b every mob for the skulls
That's the long term plan anyway, but it'd be easier haha
lyric sequoia
No reason to not put SB and ES on the task right now tbh
wary girder
when leveling up skilling should I always be using maestro transfusion?
from my testing it seems to be an exp loss
pulsar cliff
I use it when doing Summoning, or anything I'm going to be spamming baloons at.
plush spear
when leveling up skilling should I always be using maestro transfusion?
Did you used skilled dimwit prayer? 🤔
plush spear
That's why
wary girder
so im supposed to combine the two on my vman?
plush spear
Just try that, if it's giving more xp profit just equip it then
wary girder
oh yeah wow its about an extra 150% exp if i run both
and more effi overall
according to math
let me test
plush spear
wary girder
954k exp on void b4 using both
ok even using it without the transfusion its already bumped upto 1.4m lol
865k after using transfusion?
plush spear
Try it with transfusion
wary girder
im so confused
plush spear
Same
pulsar cliff
There is a tipping point where if you don't have enough eff, you end up not getting more exp.
lyric sequoia
I'm not losing my mind right, as long as you have the vman talent correct chows apply whether your BB has points in the skill or not? I swear my cooking speed keeps going up as I am chowing even though my damage build has no points in the skill
wary girder
alright whats the trick to remove transfusion lol
plush spear
alright whats the trick to remove transfusion lol
Go to any dungeon lobby
wary girder
thats the one ty sxc
gained an extra 500k exp p/h just with the prayer tho so ty lol
pulsar cliff
I'm not losing my mind right, as long as you have the vman talent correct chows ...
I can't see why it would apply, if you don't have any points into it. You only have the one barb?
pulsar cliff
That's weird.
pulsar cliff
Ya
But it is showing for me that there is a super chow even though I have no points on this build either so.
lyric sequoia
Would need to reset vman to check whether it just always applies or not
errant gyro
Anyone else have a weird bug where after getting vman, all deathnote kills jumped by 2-3mill?
lyric sequoia
Not a bug
granite grove
intended feature, vman kills are all set to 2m based on maps unlocked on other char
lyric sequoia
If you do a speedrun it resets all your portals at the start, then gives you the amount of kills needed to unlock all portals that your most progressed character has
errant gyro
I see
granite grove
doesnt apply to deadend mob/maps like gigafrogs, wood mush, bloodbones iirc
or at least my vman doesnt get 2m stilted seeker kills for some reason
vale wadi
why does a lot not get registered at the slab, even if you throw on ground multiple times?
zealous niche
I found taking the item from another map to slab registers it every time for me
Probably just the map transition, but feels nice to look at slab and verify it got picked up
Can’t be wearing it though, must be in your char’s inventory
tacit tulip
why does a lot not get registered at the slab, even if you throw on ground multi...
Flooring it should always work, as long as you pick it up after
vale wadi
Flooring it should always work, as long as you pick it up after
I do this multiple times and still not registred....
sick sentinel
Did u refresh map? Dont forget to pick it up b4 doing that
crisp silo
I put mine in chest, tp to w5 and check slab, usually is registered
nova heath
so wait just read the pins. does that mean i should ignore lab for now until i get the god that lets everyone use it?
radiant lodge
so wait just read the pins. does that mean i should ignore lab for now until i g...
yes
nova heath
ok
sour flare
Ay boys, what skills give talent points for tab 1-3?
sour flare
None of the w5 gives
sour flare
I take it that that is the answer then 😛
They don't give any at all for tab 4 skills then?
nova heath
im not sure exactly but somewhere in the guide it said that everyone class level gave points and every couple of skill level ups gave points
@sour flare
sour flare
Oh damn bro that is perfect, thank you so much! But then "every 5 skill levels give +1" for tab 4, it still means only w1-3 skills?
tacit tulip
World 4/5 skills don't give talent points however
sour flare
Thanks a ton boys ❤️
tacit tulip
Thanks a ton boys ❤️
As a final note, you'll eventually hit a point where you can regularly atom the talent alchemy bubbles
At this point, getting talent points becomes trivial
tacit tulip
Technically green can be limited by your blue salt but that'll never happen under normal gameplay
sour flare
As a final note, you'll eventually hit a point where you can regularly atom the ...
For sure but I am only making like 30k atoms a day atm, so it's a bit rough still
tacit tulip
Yeah, keep your green up even if it runs out right now
Long term green will be your limiter for purple/nullo
boreal cosmos
kk
compact river
New to world 5…
Secret to divinity?
tacit tulip
New to world 5…
Secret to divinity?
Try to unlock the first two gods - the second one has huge utility for your progress
Later gods are very strong too, goat lets you level lab and divinity simultaneously
ivory torrent
How can i decrease the minimum sailing time to islands?
granite grove
SB level and family bonus % talent
pulsar cliff
There's also a shiny that has it.