lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[valid moon]

I concur.

[granite grove]

true that it means less resource for players to use, the owner is not obligated to give those guides, and theres a replacement within 48hr so ig not much is loss)

though i do notice some contributors are gone or booted, not a good look

[versed cypress]

who removed stuff from google docs??

[granite grove]

the guide owner

[versed cypress]

a lot of guide makers and resource ppl left after the companion debacle and a lot of them nuked their guides

[dapper prism]

Looks like the owner of the doc is still in the discord*

[granite grove]

not to mention many of those are likely aware of past god and cat guild stuff, which could sour their perception for the game

but then ig the rest of player still has enough resource to use and refer around by asking ppl

[pine pond]

[vagrant mountain]

[pine pond]

[vagrant mountain]

[dapper prism]

This on DK or bubo?

[pine pond]

bubo

[vagrant mountain]

says i am 12% survivability but i have been farming on my bubo for 4 hours

[pine pond]

is it higher on DK 😮

[dapper prism]

Either way Offline values are like 99% irrelevant

[pine pond]

yeah

offline values are just horrible

1 godshard per 2-3 seconds

is where its at

😛

[dapper prism]

What's your gmush at and DR?

[pine pond]

41b 13.13

[dapper prism]

Nice

[dapper prism]

That's some juicy dmg xD

That on SB ?

[pine pond]

no

ES

[dapper prism]

Ah

[pine pond]

[dapper prism]

Don't be shy, show me more of those stats 😉

[pine pond]

lmaooo i know yours

lmaoo 😛

its like 36k wis

mine

anyhow

2 months ago i didnt have bubo, nor did i have even 20b damage

so 🙂

[vagrant mountain]

why is there a T instead of M

[dapper prism]

Must be a bug

[pine pond]

cause thats trillion

[vagrant mountain]

[dapper prism]

Nawh, 100% bug

[pine pond]

100% bug

should say Q

[vagrant mountain]

yeah theres no way thats real

[pine pond]

100%

[dapper prism]

We're being sarcastic xD

[pine pond]

its so buggy

idk what i did to the game

lmfao

must be

😛

[vagrant mountain]

heh

[pine pond]

buggy af

[vagrant mountain]

lol

why is there an M instead of a K in your picture?

[gentle furnace]

nobi+bear/nobi+snek for es if farming for eclipse?

[dapper prism]

why are your double xp chances so low? im at 64% on non-archers, 75% on archers

[spring ingot]

Should I run vitalic on a mid 30% chance of double xp

[vagrant mountain]

i can get 10% more from the crate idk

[dapper prism]

What god are you on?

[dapper prism]

and Vitalic compared to what?

[vagrant mountain]

is 75% double exp cap?

[pine pond]

ii dont know bro

[pine pond]

idk

[gentle furnace]

anyone?

[vagrant mountain]

idk i use doot

[dapper prism]

idk im honestly confused what you mean with farming eclipse?

[gentle furnace]

eclipse skull

[eager zinc]

is farmimg obol shards fast in w2 when the loot table offers golden obols and w3 doesnt

[spring ingot]

Goat, compared to mantra, for xp pushing

[vagrant mountain]

yeah way faster if you need shards

[dapper prism]

Mantra doesn't benefit from double xp claim so vitalic would be better.

Could also stay on Focus until Tiger before doing an xp push 🤷

[tacit tulip]

finally

[vagrant mountain]

grats

[tacit tulip]

an of course

[vagrant mountain]

[limber prairie]

Show off

[spring ingot]

hmm yea makes sense get that extra divinity xp boost

[tacit tulip]

Hey I'm just happy, it's the first time since I started the game that every character has maxed weapons/armour

next up is the skilling tools

[limber prairie]

I needa do so much idek where to start

Cause I got mostly everyone in lab

[tacit tulip]

You'll progress quicker than the content releases, just keep chipping away at things and it'll get easier

[limber prairie]

Yessir lol

[vagrant mountain]

cant go wrong with alchemy

[tacit tulip]

even if you make a poor decision and level up an expensive bubble, that's still +1 bubble

[vagrant mountain]

bubbles are forever

[lost topaz]

So that infinite salt chart, assumes you aren't ranking up Red salts.... Just figured I would mention here for anyone else relying on it.

Need extra red ranks to keep pumping if you're tryinna rank up

[vagrant mountain]

always leave red and green on

[lost topaz]

Yea, but the chart assumes you are not doing that. So if you rely on the chart it will mess up your salt production.

[vagrant mountain]

chart seems to work for me even though my blue is overleveled

maybe you are spending too much salt?

[tacit tulip]

It's hard to overspend r d

Red

[dapper prism]

It should be fine? As long as you get to the Red/Green ranks first before ranking up the others.

[tacit tulip]

I did find a couple small instances where I'd run out of red

Like, a day out of 25 or so

[vagrant mountain]

idk my intrusive thoughts keep telling me to click this

[granite grove]

NBLB it, the better goal is to max red salt vial for mastery

[vagrant mountain]

red salt vial

[granite grove]

isnt the 1B vial for extra vial multiplier so tempting?

[tacit tulip]

Yeah, just need 1k+ red salt haha

As in, level

[lost topaz]

Rank 15 red to rank 16 gives 300,000 red salt.

It generates 36 power per rank towards the 400,000 cap; so 11,111.1111111 cycles to rank up.

Orange Rank 9 consumes 34 red per cycle. If you have 300,000 red salt from rank up 15, a total of 8823.52 orange cycles available from prior red salt claim

You will run out of red salt and need 3000 more cycles before you can rank red. The chart says Ranks 16red / 9orange should self sustain.

[tacit tulip]

Yeah there's a few levels where it's slightly off

After 20 it's smooth sailing due to how weird it gets

[vagrant mountain]

maybe you are supposed to rank 16 red then rank orange to 9 and blue to 5 nvm you right

[granite grove]

just round that 11,111.11... number to 11,112 cycles

also yeah, refinery power cap kinda caps out at 1M so after a point, it just accelerates ever so slightly

[lost topaz]

This would actually bring it pretty close. 10714 cycles if orange was at 8 so only about 400 cycles without orange running if you were to wait to rank to level 9 until red salt was ready for rank 17.

[vagrant mountain]

oh not bad

im sorta close to 19 maybe ill wait to rank up my yellow

im mostly gated by second page refineries anyway

[lost topaz]

Yea the chart is definately assuming you have all of them on auto refine, because ranks 16/9 are 2 excess red per cycle. Geez what a silly way to make the chart.

[vagrant mountain]

better than nothing

heh

i would still be in salt abyss

without that chart

[gentle furnace]

is this good enough?

[vagrant mountain]

probably?

active on ES?

[dapper prism]

For superchow?

[vagrant mountain]

for eclipse?

[gentle furnace]

es candy for 1b DN

[vagrant mountain]

😆 im confused now

oh idk

depends on how much candy you have

hehe

[vagrant mountain]

lol if that were me id start clicking

can probably eclipse an entire world with that much candy

[dapper prism]

just make sure u got that nice splicer on xD

[granite grove]

if lava allows crafting 1hr candies into x30 2min candies

[visual lava]

Who needs W1 splice material at this point?

[vagrant mountain]

me

[tacit tulip]

People missing world 1 pets I'd imagine

[dapper prism]

Ah right, 1b eclipse i did 5* cards

[granite grove]

eventually could take extra w4 splices down the road if going to eclipse that at some point

[visual lava]

No but going for eclipses, at that point, how are you not done with W1 pets

Sorry didn't mean it as a general question

[vagrant mountain]

what does the rat do

im not eclipsing but breeding probably my most neglected skill ngl

[dapper prism]

@gentle furnace just remember when doing eclipse, to do map in order of highest kph as each new eclipse is another 10% mk/tier

Like when i initially started it, i tracked my kph in each map:
https://i.imgur.com/rFo6LQ3.png

[gentle furnace]

my current DN

[dapper prism]

And best to have 100m on everything before doing 1b,

yup

[quiet pewter]

why the game hate billions

[zinc torrent]

Wood mush can go die in a pit somewhere. Mob density is beyond awful man.

[gentle furnace]

my barb only get 58m kills after 40hrs of afk there lol

[weary hinge]

does this use afk gain?

[oak tartan]

What is the best way to understand why my character died while active? Was going well for several hours, then died. Didn't run out of food.

Also no crystal monsters

[gentle furnace]

food cd was down when the mobs sticked to you

[zinc torrent]

Counter question since I never got an answer: does this work active? Does it count multikill

[prisma drift]

I would assume it’s like other skills that count actual deaths

[zinc torrent]

Ew

[oak tartan]

hmm, probably. I guess I can get another food slot to have more food

[vagrant mountain]

maybe crystal mob

[oak tartan]

nothing in the picture 🙂

[quiet pewter]

ran out of food

or a cyrstal did it and ran away

[gentle furnace]

easier to just get more hp and more dmg

did you max hemoglobin?

[oak tartan]

lvl 40. I don't have enough merits to max all the way

[lost topaz]

hmmmm. new meta?

[gentle furnace]

this then

stamps help a lot with hp

[oak tartan]

OK. time to work on stamps and alchemy. I'm not that good on those

[quiet pewter]

youve got two stacks if thats your question

[lost topaz]

That's a thing?

[zinc torrent]

Probably crystal killed him and statue killed it afterwards

[quiet pewter]

ive got 10 stacks full

[prisma drift]

Yeah might as well get another pow 10 if you have the space

[quiet pewter]

furthest left stack fills first

[lost topaz]

Wow I didn't know that was a thing

time to purge storage

[quiet pewter]

its a small gain so dont go crazy on it

[lilac jungle]

What is the drop rate of tear drops for rift 11?

[prisma drift]

Just use es they are common

I got all 3 in one portal last rift

[lost topaz]

Do you get greenstack credit for every stack?

[quiet pewter]

lol no

[lost topaz]

Awe shucks

[quiet pewter]

otherwise end game inventory would just be copper XD

[limber prairie]

What’s the point in pressing join others when it doesn’t even make join other

[lost topaz]

It's like you're reading my mind.

[quiet pewter]

its fucked

[limber prairie]

I think people are blind in dungeons like Npcs

[quiet pewter]

the system doesnt ping out correctly, and invites block each other, its implememtation

[limber prairie]

Interesting

So it’s random???

[quiet pewter]

ive had more luck not using that button

even better luck from hitting up the party-finder channel during happy hour

[limber prairie]

Ooooooomg

I forgot about that

Smart man

[tacit tulip]

My wife plays and I have a spare device with a level 10 noob we take in for happy hour 😄

It's like level 38 dungeon lol

[kindred coyote]

how much damage should i have on ES to do nightmare kattlecruk

[tacit tulip]

As long as you oneshot the moles ES can do it

More damage reduces the time

The chain lightning and meteors hit the moles before they get close

[kindred coyote]

yeah but i want to do it in a reasonable amount of time

1000T hp

[tacit tulip]

Most classes can do it without falling asleep around 50-100b

It'll still take a while but not an hour

[kindred coyote]

i only have 300M dmg lol i guess ill hold off for now

[tacit tulip]

Yeah probs for the best

Sailing will get you your next big damage boost

Via crystal steak and the last mage bubble

[lavish quiver]

Steak is huge

[lyric sequoia]

You say that like endgame storages don’t already have full pages of copper

[runic girder]

Do they though

[lyric sequoia]

For sampling, yes

[dreamy spruce]

loot value doesnt impact how fast I discover clouds right?

[lavish quiver]

Give me pages of leaves

[runic girder]

Only speed and cloud rate

[quiet pewter]

in practise it doesnt matter much, youll be able to clear clouds with one guy faster than the rest can farm the artifacts up to that point

[dreamy spruce]

Alright, thanks

[dreamy spruce]

not there yet :{

[quiet pewter]

if your not there thats good i guess? means you have all the artifacts?

[dreamy spruce]

it means discovering clouds still takes a while

[tacit tulip]

There's another notable factor with clouds

You amount you get pet lap increases with each cloud

[dreamy spruce]

also have all artifacts so far (though not ancient)

[dreamy spruce]

Does that mean it's the same amount of laps for each cloud?

[tacit tulip]

So the first cloud needs like 10k

The rest are much higher, but this doesn't really matter as you get more

Yeah it's about the same number I found

I think it's based on the distance to the island

[dreamy spruce]

I see

3h away from cloud means I started going there a little late?

[tacit tulip]

Clouds also don't have a min travel time

[dreamy spruce]

oh okay, thats nice

[tacit tulip]

If you had enough speed you could do a lap in 1 minute haha

[runic girder]

I discovered second to last cloud with like 6 hour average

[lyric sequoia]

If you use the spreadsheet you can do some prediction on when blob will want to buy the common loot of the furthest island you have unlocked, which you can then use to preemptively stock up on that by sending all your ships there. Good way to quickly increase the speed of ship 1 which will make clouds and later islands accessible quicker

[dreamy spruce]

where should I farm plunderous kills if I cant kill citringes very fast? moltis?

[tacit tulip]

Technically if you're in that situation you shouldn't really be farming those kills

But...yes

[dreamy spruce]

ah okay, i'll wait then

[fair coral]

Been trying to get eldritch steak for the last 2 months, I gave up 💀

[lyric sequoia]

Plunder kills overrated anyway

Mine is still on 300 and change that it has been at since SB came out

[tacit tulip]

They're much faster these days

But 1 mil is still effort

[lyric sequoia]

I know, I’d just rather not do it

[tacit tulip]

100k can be done in a few days for a pretty nice loot boost

[dreamy spruce]

im not even at 200 yet

[tacit tulip]

like I can't complain at this, it's contributing over 2 DR to my total

[ocean fox]

Can you choose not to use the gilded stamp?

[still apex]

Is cloud discovery rate just your loot stat?

[tacit tulip]

If you scroll up about 10-15 minutes ago we just had that discussion 🙂

[ashen marsh]

do you guys know why I don't see the 10 rng items?

[tacit tulip]

The 50 talents aren't implemented yet

[opaque sun]

discovery rate is just your discovery rate

you also dont get the 1 HP too fortunately

[spare sigil]

Does anyone else feels that the sailing UI sucks?

[tacit tulip]

It used to be worse

[opaque sun]

Something lava claimed to be “mostly idle”

[steady token]

can someone with this leveled tell me why slab have no further weapons?

[solid haven]

hm...how come Lava wants to release full expedition, instead of incrementally?

[opaque sun]

Slab? or you mean no further upgrade beyond that?

[little pagoda]

Does it matter which giant mobs I kill?

[opaque sun]

not really, unless you want the increased mob drops of boops

[tacit tulip]

You might wanna save them for the w3 key quest if you've not done it

Boops are a good choice too

[steady token]

idk why slab dont count weapons beyond this

[solid haven]

folowup question, does multikill affect giant drops?

[steady token]

no

[opaque sun]

mk only affects the basic mob drops to begin with

as in the top left most item on card info

[little pagoda]

I've done it on like 4 characters, will eventually do on the others

[tacit tulip]

Right before I commit to battery farming I think I should get some pearlers

[little pagoda]

5 I think

[tacit tulip]

Get all tools to dradlo first at least

[steady token]

slab on IE dont count dungeon weapon V and beyond?

[little pagoda]

That's smart actually didn't know that works

[ashen marsh]

grumblo build won't work if I got coin right

[ocean fox]

Is there a place that's good to farm plunderous mobs for the archlord of the pirates talent?

[tacit tulip]

Citringes is the best place

[ocean fox]

kk

[opaque sun]

oj or wurms. Plunder kills doesnt really care of map that much honestly

[tacit tulip]

If you have everything armed to the teeth you can get about 10k a day

[steady token]

i prefer wurm

[dreamy spruce]

holy shit w5 logs are insane, went from 28 - 53 in 1.5 hours. Now im ahead of vman :{

[opaque sun]

kill rate at wurms is pretty much the same as oj

[tacit tulip]

I mostly use OJs to increase my kill rate using SB's ridiculous aoe skills

Hard to hit 12 wurms with that, but you often can with ojs

between that, the archer skill that fires 80 billion arrows, and the SB bomb explosions you can get a lot of kills stacked there

[ashen marsh]

is there a way to bring back a ship underneath H

[dreamy spruce]

try to delete its captain

[tacit tulip]

if you know which captain is in the ship you can delete it in the captain screen

it won't delete it, but it'll bring the ship back

[ashen marsh]

aahhh yes I thought so ty ty

[winter cape]

how much dmg do you need on a bb to beat w5 Sacrilegious Kattlecruk?

[tacit tulip]

100b is fairly quick but you'll be clicking moles too

Try to click 3-4 moles in to use cleave and hit the lot

[lavish quiver]

Depends how fast you want the fight to go thats pretty much it

[winter cape]

that's me rn. i can't get past 998000B on him before he gets healed :))

[lavish quiver]

You can beat it with that dmg, you just need to kill moles until you have the aoe attack use that then damage and repeat

[winter cape]

too much hussle tbh

[lavish quiver]

Have fun with Vman

Idk the dmg needed to out dps the heals tho

[winter cape]

that's the next thing i was gonna say. it doesn't matter if i can beat him on bb, vman is gonna be horrible

[lavish quiver]

Yea you do what i said with Vman as well

Sucks but only got to do it once at least

[night nymph]

whats the minimum speed needed to get 2 hours on the last island

[lavish quiver]

50m base without reductions

[night nymph]

thank you

[winter cape]

bold of you to assume I have only one vman

[lavish quiver]

Oh then really sucks

[opaque sun]

The distance of the island is round trip of going there and coming back, so having 1/2 speed of the distance will get it to the default minimum 2hrs

[night nymph]

so i need 25M ?

[winter cape]

yep. I'd give a lot of gems for something to change that

[lavish quiver]

No last one is 100million meters

so you need 50mil

[night nymph]

ok

[tacit tulip]

Technically a bit more cause of min distance time reductions

[night nymph]

i have all eldritchs so now i'm trying to get min time on all boats to perma farm last island

[tacit tulip]

for me my min time is 101 minutes, so I need to do 100m in 101 mins.

To get the hourly speed I do (100m/101) x 60 = 59.4m speed to hit absolute max

[eternal flax]

limit as at now

[noble nymph]

Vman is the only reason i haven't attempted, even if i can beat nightmare on mostly everyone vman is so far behind

[tacit tulip]

Yeah it's about 40-50b damage to do vman without pulling your hair out

[lavish quiver]

I beat him at 15b

[tacit tulip]

Rip your hair

[lavish quiver]

Nah it wasnt that bad tbh once i got the rotation down

all my punch skill i cant remember what they are that boost damage and another hit are all 245 so that probably helped

[honest spoke]

What’s the best alchemy bubble to increase vman damage? I’ve been working on luck…

[valid moon]

Does anyone know where the W5 constellation is at the main shop?

[tacit tulip]

It's on the red sheet that holds the artifacts

Right hand side

[valid moon]

Thank you!

Do you know where the stars are on this map also?

[valid moon]

I found it thank you so much!!

[bright current]

yea bro right there

[sharp wind]

How long it take you to beat him at 15b?

[zinc torrent]

Upper platform. Second from the left. On the left

[valid moon]

I see it thank you!

[bright current]

[lime kite]

Do siege breaker plunder kill DR boosts stack?

And is DK printer boost from orb kills count for everyone?

[viral star]

what'd be the optimal set up for uh cards for afk? mobs

[somber rover]

Where is the sprinkler mentioned on idleontoolbox?

[dreamy spruce]

Its a thing you can unlock in imports gaming

the top left one

[zinc torrent]

Those account wide talents never stack

[crisp silo]

Orb printer boost boosts all

Think it is a final multiplier

[viral star]

what is his cooldown

i seee probably 1 growth cycle

[zealous niche]

Depends on the upgrade level

[viral star]

i got it to level 3

just unlocked the level 20 stuffs

[zealous niche]

It makes new plants spawn based on the water level when you use it

[zealous niche]

It will be slow then

[bold quiver]

almost end of month and no update!!!! will we make it boys?

[bright current]

careful what u wish for

there might be another doot in the next major update

[bold quiver]

i wish

if it boost my acc im taking it

[bright current]

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/mio-mio-chan-nichijou-gif-18659803

[steady token]

how hard to get lv101 of these talents? I have like 70k spare flurbos

[bright current]

i think all 101's are a 1/1k chance

[steady token]

👀 thanks for your info

[bold quiver]

this is my first 100%, doe this mean that cost is cut in half?

[dreamy spruce]

I'd expect it to be free, but that wouldnt exactly make sense

[bold quiver]

kkkkkk yeah thats why i guessed half lol

same way as CC

[safe harness]

Its probably badly worded. Its upgrade cost so maybe it reducing scaling, so you get one upgrade free so it scales higher one upgrade slower if that makes sense

Thats just speculation

[bold quiver]

🫡

[safe harness]

Which would actually be pretty decent higher you go, but who knows

[manic flume]

I'd expect that to half your upgrade costs considering that the cranium bubble at +100% halves the cooldown

idk how hard it is to code but I'd expect even a single time free upgrade to be more difficult to code than a flat cost reduction

[sand summit]

Skipping a scaling step is easy to code

[safe harness]

Might be that way and lava confused %. 100% decrease free but 100% increase is double. So it could stand to reason he used double for both 100%

[worldly hollow]

fucking finally, a upgrade to this nugget lol

[rapid talon]

What are the best bait and fishing lines to level up vman?

[sharp wind]

WTS gold nugget

[worldly hollow]

ive been sitting on that 8k for a few months lmao

[sharp wind]

That 14k and 20k show up at the same day

[worldly hollow]

gg lol

[bold quiver]

i have faith that islands provide a way to increase our nugget!

[sharp wind]

Whats your nugget at now?

[bold quiver]

125k

[heavy jackal]

to what level should I put this?

[bold quiver]

whatever u want

[sharp wind]

Offer you my 100k 14k 20k for your 125k (profit in total)

[bold quiver]

haha i'd trade, my nugget cant help me get the superbits either way

[heavy jackal]

the last 2 mutations and 6 evolutions

[bold quiver]

its funny that this much total bit multi isnt even enough to get me to B red

[sharp wind]

I barely got mine to 1red

[bold quiver]

congrats, its 3 red for the atom upgrad eright?

[heavy jackal]

so ... any advice or level to aim?

[sharp wind]

2, just bought it

[bold quiver]

not rly, whatever u want is fine

[heavy jackal]

to achive this?

[bold quiver]

same

[fluid marlin]

I just switched around my best gear between characters and got everyone except maestro their 3rd class. Everyone is aroun 95 except my barbarian with 170. 10 Characters in total right now all farming divinity (all only lvl 5) with the ... icebear god? Should I just let them keep farming divinity until I can unlock the goat god, or take a few of them out? I know its preference, but no idea if its worth it to keep them in for a while 🤔

[dreamy spruce]

The pins has a good guide for divinity

[fluid marlin]

And which level do my characters need to be in lab, to only need 6 of them?

[bold quiver]

no point leaving 10 characters at divinity, u can play with 1 or 2 if u want, wont matter

The route usualy is: Divinity up to goat god > Lab up to lvl 40-50 > Bear god to level family 3k, some random setups to whatever > finish unlocking all gods up to purmep at least > 9 omniphau 1 purmep setup, gg > after done with sailing etc > 6 hariep + 4 omniphau (+2 from ES)

[fluid marlin]

Thanks 😊

[potent gust]

I need to keep that somewhere

[placid adder]

is the gem shop worth saving my gems or should i spend them somewhere else

[pulsar cliff]

You can only spend your gems in the gem shop.

Unless I'm not understanding the question lol

[placid adder]

i mean the w5 gem shop

[pulsar cliff]

!gemshop

[pulsar cliff]

That there is pretty much the recommended guide for gems

[placid adder]

ooo i see thanks

[pure spindle]

Save potentially for island update id say?

Thats what im doing at least if its not worth it then i can just spend elsewhere

We will know within a week

[pulsar cliff]

That's not a bad idea. Island update might have new gem shops, and fomo store.

[dreamy spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1126929507245367488/tonysgemshoptierlistv4.png
I think this is the cooler tier list for gems

[pulsar cliff]

That is certainly cooler, yup.

I'm just shy of 6k gems, so should be good to sink the shop when it updates lol.

[pure spindle]

The classic tier list

[pure spindle]

Could be a great play

Could be like sigils where you rly only get buffed faster through shop compared to other players

Or it could scale with our current progress i dont rly know what to expect from it

[pulsar cliff]

I only have 3 sigils left to unlock, but holy fuck is it slow.

[pure spindle]

Then you get to do the ancient versions lol

[pulsar cliff]

no lol.

[pure spindle]

Lol

At least we have the artifact that gets em to up 8x power

Or 6x cant remember

[pulsar cliff]

My current one is 23k hours. No matter what way I slice that, that's awful.

[pure spindle]

Thats a nice year and a half no? Lol

[pulsar cliff]

The previous gilded is 120k

[pure spindle]

Maybe near 2

[pulsar cliff]

23k hours is some 950 days lol

[pure spindle]

Sigils need a big speed buff in w6 or islands

Damn even worse 🤣🤣

[pulsar cliff]

I have to do a bubo grind once a day practically to upkeep my tier 1 liquids.

Does anyone know if I have to re-trap to get the critter bonus of Species Epoch?

I assume not but.

[brisk cloud]

So I have 4 monsters with 1b kills yet only +15% damage, anyone know why?

[tacit tulip]

void stuff is weird about activating it

reboot your game and it should work

[brisk cloud]

Yes that was the correct response that works I was just testing you, good job

[tacit tulip]

pretty sure critters calculate on trap set, so...

[dense crater]

No fkin way

[dreamy spruce]

multikill/kpk doesnt affect rare drops

[dense crater]

ik but dr does so im kinda unlucky

[tacit tulip]

Go check how many royal urns you have

the average is 1 recipe every 1000 urns

but, being on 1b deathnote

yes, you're unlucky

[dreamy spruce]

Damn you're good, 5 times better than the average

[tacit tulip]

yeah I got mine at 5k urns

[dense crater]

I have 200 but i spend them on stamp so dk how many i gotten already

[tacit tulip]

yeah that makes it a pain

I got mine at 700M kills, but that was purely ES grinding

portal mobs don't contribute to death note but do have increased drop rate

[sharp wind]

I got 2 at 500m kill 2k urns

[tacit tulip]

that is disgusting

[dense crater]

send one?👉 👈 🥺

[sharp wind]

[sharp wind]

i saved the other one so i can wipe my tears with it

[tacit tulip]

think I'll be starting my mega chows today

BB hit 425, so has a divine necklace

and I should have batteries/pearlers to max his tools by the time I'm done with work

after that it's candy time

[buoyant valley]

once you unlock chem plant in gaming, whats the strategy? i still need t6 plants as well

[sharp wind]

t6 thats a myth, got mine after a week or so with cat on

[tacit tulip]

you get into a position where you have a couple of chem plants, then:

1. Harvest the rest of your plants
2. Use shovel/squirrel
3. Use sprinkler until spent. Keep any new chems you get
4. Use log until spent, same note about chems. Use shovel/squirrel between logs
5. Use a days worth of chem (2x T4 or 1xT5). This resets your log timer. Use shovel/squirred between chems
6. repeat
7. get stuck in a chem loop for like 6 hours

[buoyant valley]

nice, ill try that, should have 2 t4 right now

[tacit tulip]

chems only spawn at like 1% rate so it's perfectly possible to do 1 cycle and be done

but sometimes the game just...keeps going

the 6 hour thing isn't a joke, it happened to me the other week

[vocal ibex]

I feel u there I been stuck where I didn't want to do It anymore because I had to sleep so I slept

[tacit tulip]

Yup, sometimes you just stop for your own sanity

the chems will still be there tomorrow

I have 2 right now and I just can't be arsed

[vocal ibex]

It's a lesson I have to learn every few days sometimes you get stuck in your own head. Tunnel vision. Don't spend too much either I've spent a lot

[sharp wind]

my advice dont do 20 chems, u get crazy pressing this thing

[tacit tulip]

<harvest all>

[sharp wind]

[signal osprey]

Push the button

Create the nugget ring

[next locust]

Gold sprinkler is required, right? What level should I aim for? I have only regular sprinkler and never get a good chain going

[restive aspen]

As high as you want it

I maxed mine just because the stacking is best at that. I think it's like 75% chain chance?

[signal osprey]

I put one point in it early and said I'd do the rest later and now that I know how awful chem chains are I've decided I'm never actually going to do the rest

[spare sigil]

any tips on how to get 10m kraken?

lol

[tacit tulip]

There isn't an easy answer here: More fishing gains

Fish cards, alchemy, and a better fishing rod are the primary gainers

[buoyant valley]

good thing i got like 40 fertilizers

[dreamy spruce]

I cant find starsign in maccie location and wiki doesnt show it either, does anyone know where it is?

[tacit tulip]

its on the fire waterfall near the bottom

[sick sentinel]

its in the lava fall near the bottom

[dreamy spruce]

alright, thanks. Found it!

[granite grove]

1/ 3d print
2/ wait
3/ ???
4/ profit

[tacit tulip]

Assuming he's gone "oh shit, this weeks chip" there's not much he can do quickly to increase gains

[granite grove]

of course, better fishing gains and samples would just make it faster tho, if already did sampling build, not sure what else can be done

[tacit tulip]

My suggestion would be to link to hare and pray

the other big gain would be to dump resources into multitool stamp if you have it

[sick sentinel]

can always candy as a last resort

[crisp silo]

Lmao candy fishing

[granite grove]

if you are really desperate, its possible to link to hare, set all print to krakens regardless of sample size, then do questionable saving methods with mman printer skill

but then with best sampling, theres nothing you can do anymore

[sick sentinel]

if they are close its better to get the chip than not

[urban gorge]

is it common to be stuck due to salts?

[tacit tulip]

yeah

you get over the wall eventually

[urban gorge]

=/ is there a solution other than lvling up that bubble?

[sick sentinel]

us a lot of omni if you want better salts

[urban gorge]

What's omni

[crisp silo]

Gotta get them ref speed up

[spare sigil]

yea i cant get in time

[sick sentinel]

div god

[crisp silo]

Then do the rank ups

[tacit tulip]

omniphau, a god, regularly gives afk rates to one of 6 things - refinery being one of them

[crisp silo]

Then profit after 2 momths of waiting for rankup

[urban gorge]

oh yae, I think i have 2 guys on him

[spare sigil]

maybe link to harriep and stay on lab

[urban gorge]

i'm fine on mats. i just need greent salts to make all that lvl gear/weps

[tacit tulip]

yeah green is slow for a while

[spare sigil]

and hope the other 9 charactor omniphau keep on procs on 3d printer

[crisp silo]

It is time to rank the green up

[tacit tulip]

you basically never wanna auto refine green

[urban gorge]

good to know i'm going it right

[urban gorge]

oh?

I thought you wanted to wait till 100% on all the salts to rank up?

[tacit tulip]

just the colour you want

[crisp silo]

There is a combo of lvls for the colours

[tacit tulip]

what I mean is don't ever use 10% etc on green

[crisp silo]

To endlessly produce

[tacit tulip]

you always want it increasing

[sick sentinel]

there's the always rank up strat, or the "infinite" strat

[urban gorge]

so..i should wait till rank up or I shoudlnt

[crisp silo]

It seems it is time for me to leave green unrefined

[solemn spire]

please elaborate

[sick sentinel]

check out the pin in w3 chat

[granite grove]

green salt is the bottleneck of 2nd tier salt, like with red being the bottleneck for 1st tier salt

so always refine it at 100% only

[urban gorge]

so I want to make sure all my salts are on the same horizontal level as the picture?

[sick sentinel]

always rank up is self explanatory, infinite follows the guide in w3 chat pins to always have salts flow. you want to upgrade red and green tho

[urban gorge]

so my blue is alerady rank 8. So there is no point in waiting for a rank up, ever on Blue?

[zinc torrent]

Always rank up red and green.

[sick sentinel]

if you want ot try and get your levels to infinite then leave blue

until later when your other salts get up

[crisp silo]

Blud has blue on 8, bro now has to wait weeks for the catchup

[pure spindle]

Yeah thatll be a nice grind

[swift pecan]

Anyone know why my larry bubble isnt working correctly, its at 100% chance, but im getting +1 when in upgrading bubble like constantly.

[sick sentinel]

If its at 500 level it a couple more times

Leveling it once may do the trick too

[opaque sun]

when at exact 500, it results to 0 due to lava equation using like a “if x - 500 use this formula” and overlooked for those at 500

[swift pecan]

Thank you

[granite grove]

lava uses (lv/(lv+100))×max for most decay formula, the max value for larry bubble is 120%

so at lv500, it becomes (500/600)*1.2 so 100%

[autumn wasp]

When farming eldritch fury, all my boats are 2h but i can only check once a day, is it better to set minimum chest up or use sb talent?

[granite grove]

one notable exception for decay formula is divinity minor link bonus, which uses lv/(lv+60) instead, need lv60 to get 50% of the theoretical max value

though still dunno why larry bubble doesnt proc 100%, still an odd issue there

[opaque sun]

the formula changes from pre 500 and 500, but lava didnt account for those at exact 500

[swift pecan]

Ill just throw a few more levels into it then, appreciate the answers.

[opaque sun]

So at 500, it does like a (X - 500) * whatever log, so it treats as 0

At 501 it returns back to the actual % displayed

[granite grove]

guess he prob used <500 and >500, but totallt forgot the ≥500 or sth

or there is a separate formula other than one used in the larry bubble decay formula?

or there really is some separate formula working behind the scene

[fading cape]

Is there a trick to getting deals and bundles to show up on the buy gems screen? Or if I see no bundles there just aren't any available?

[crisp silo]

Its kinda random

[brisk laurel]

what is good sites to check some stuff for improving? like idleon efficiency and toolbox?

[dreamy spruce]

you usually get new bundle when new update comes out

[placid mural]

dang i gained 1400 levels of GT since yesterday morning 🙂

[noble mesa]

How?

[placid mural]

i just parked my bubo on worms and am checking in once an hour and leveling it

[opaque sun]

Little brother clicked gt overnight i suppose

[noble mesa]

U dont have a job??

[placid mural]

it was at 71% class exp yesterday morning

[bold quiver]

niceee goodjob

[placid mural]

i can remote into my desktop from my phone

[noble mesa]

Lol

U just went full power on it

[green eagle]

meanwhile there's me who stopped my infinite salt production to rank everything up a few tiers and my green salt went from overflowing to nonexistant because the ranks i'm going for are making pink salt eat it up before i can rank up the next set lol

[noble mesa]

Very noice job u did

[placid mural]

yeah i heard braverelease and some other bloke talking about GT for a while and figured i need to give it some attention

[bold quiver]

i said its pointless to lvl that

[placid mural]

i know

[bold quiver]

but sme people still keep preaching thats important to lvl, figures

no idea whre they based that from but its fine

[noble mesa]

Way?

[placid mural]

but i was sick of farming keys on my DK for 4 weeks straight so wanted to shake it up a bit

[bold quiver]

because of the exp curve even with a lvl 15k GT bubble it will take probably a month or more to get family lvl 5000

and without a leveled GT bubble u can lvl 450 (for trophy) on everyone pretty fast

[noble mesa]

But like u want to get it 1 day

[placid mural]

still, doesnt actually hurt progression though

[bold quiver]

yeah, as soon as W6 release everyone will get 5000 kkkkkkk

cuz exp curve spike

[tender lance]

Any1 know good W5 recipe farm setup? Looking for fist weapon from Sluggmas atm, using ES with drop gear

[tacit tulip]

That's really the main thing

[bold quiver]

the problem is the trade off u know? u are wasting more than 1 month of progression to get 1 extra obol

[tacit tulip]

Don't use Midas, it's negative gains on ES

[noble mesa]

I just gat i yesterdy

200m kills

[tacit tulip]

Despite having it right you're at the whims of rng still. Took me 700m kills on ES to get

[noble mesa]

+16% dr

[green eagle]

i'm slightly disappointed that Omar's island excursions are going to be something new and not related at all to some better fishing spots for exp. i'm probably in the minority though

[bold quiver]

yeah its not worth

[tender lance]

got it, thanks guys

[bold quiver]

1 month of progression lost or more for that

[green eagle]

but the man has got the HARPOON lemme skewer some fish for some gains

[tacit tulip]

One of the islands might have better fish on it tbf

[bold quiver]

its better to keep progressing overal and just wait for W6, then u just lvl to 5k easily

[tacit tulip]

I doubt it, but maybe

[noble mesa]

I think we will have 1 more fish tipe

[green eagle]

can only pray

[noble mesa]

I gess so...

The xp gain from w4 to w5 is massive

[gentle furnace]

my charge filled up 4 times while candying for eclipse lol

[bold quiver]

probably cuz new fishing spots would require new bubbles/vials/stamps, etc. I believe W6 we will get 2 new nodes, 1 for mining + 1 for fishing

[green eagle]

gimme those LARGE fish fishing spots, gotta have some off a boat or something since the end of the dock is medium fish

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk did u finaly expend charge???

[gentle furnace]

yeah but only es since i was candying so much

[fading cape]

I find it weird that a kraken is a medium fish

[bold quiver]

thats something already nice

[gentle furnace]

w4 almost done

4 more mobs

[bold quiver]

and its done! niceee bro

[dreamy spruce]

nice

[bold quiver]

ill wait 1 more day so i can finish super chowing RIFT on BB, then i will do a cooking session and then wasste 1h-2h candies on gmush its gonna be tough (with sb for vials)

[noble mesa]

Im have 4 more to finish w1...

[noble mesa]

How mach dmg% u have

[bold quiver]

and i stil gotta farm 700M of this stupid thing

[gentle furnace]

started at 1.2T

[noble mesa]

Noice

[gentle furnace]

after finishing w3 im at 2.3T

[dreamy spruce]

damn just doubled it thats nice

[noble mesa]

But i mean how mach % its give u?

[dreamy spruce]

double clearly

[gentle furnace]

2% for each eclipse

[placid mural]

I wish there was a GT equivalent for skilling exp

[gentle furnace]

independent multi

[noble mesa]

Da

[coral goblet]

how much dmg think i need for nightmare kattlecruk

[placid mural]

5% per not 2

[bold quiver]

not much

[coral goblet]

enough you think?

[bold quiver]

if its ES u can just auto it

[coral goblet]

yeah it is ok let see

[bold quiver]

boss doesnt hit so its whatever

[placid mural]

Might take a week

[bold quiver]

no way, people beat that with 10B dmg on a vman

[gentle furnace]

depends how long you plan to fight it

[placid mural]

At 2.9b sheet damage

[bold quiver]

almost 3B on ES is enough

[coral goblet]

if im just autoing the boss wont the adds overflow and heal

[placid mural]

Not on es, bubo, or dk

[bold quiver]

even SB can keep autoing

[placid mural]

They all have enough passive AOE that he will die eventually

[coral goblet]

fuck it lets see how it goes

i want the wand recipe

[noble mesa]

Good luck

[bold quiver]

have fun

[coral goblet]

wow you really did mean a week

[bold quiver]

wait, your active skills are maxed right? '.' like a lvl 200 lightning, meteor etc?

[placid mural]

Go watch a movie and come back

[tacit tulip]

Yeah that'll take ages but you won't fail

[coral goblet]

nah im not ideal

[bold quiver]

oh jez christ

[noble mesa]

Lol

[dreamy spruce]

why is ur light so low :{

[bold quiver]

💀

[coral goblet]

[tacit tulip]

Honestly chain being levelled is good here, as it means you'll Def kill the moles

[bold quiver]

why would u invest 121 points into that divinity talent, its dogshit

[noble mesa]

Light is big big dmg

[gentle furnace]

lightning barrage is the main dmg output for single target

[coral goblet]

i gotta respec then its been a hot minute

[tacit tulip]

players get taught in w1-4 chats that sheet damage is king and attack talents tend to get neglected, this isn't a surprise at all

[noble mesa]

Hoo i know

[bold quiver]

true, the amount of players at w3+ that dont invest in active talents for active gameplay is huge

its like they play without reading anything lol

[noble mesa]

Tell him thet

[tacit tulip]

for most gameplay it's fine cause as long as you're one shotting a mob, who cares?

[coral goblet]

its mostly prio other chars on checkout books like vman bubo etc

[tacit tulip]

Just the extra circumstances (ES portal, high level bosses, bubo as a whole) where that's really a problem

[bold quiver]

or just blindly invest into talents without clicking that big PLAYER STATS icon while ua re at it lol

[coral goblet]

im almost at 1k books for the achive then can get a max book every 24 hours

[dreamy spruce]

omg im blind

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-couple-gif-21797661

[noble mesa]

Loll

[tacit tulip]

If you have ram pet unlocked grab some weapon power food out of storage and see if you can up your damage slightly

[coral goblet]

oh yeah tru good point

[tacit tulip]

The moles aren't proper enemies so shouldn't consume them

[coral goblet]

and the star sign

[noble mesa]

Go wach a movie

[coral goblet]

im workin from home so should be fine

def worth since i wont fail and ill get the wand recipe

[tacit tulip]

If you have all day you can clear the mission after too

Kill without it healing

That's just vman gloves tho, not important

[coral goblet]

oh nice yeah moles doesnt even get close

gotcha yeah keys take a minute for me still so probs farm chaos kills for awhile

i dont have the w5 gloves for vman yet

[tacit tulip]

Yeah no rush in that case

[coral goblet]

does cooking have a cap at 40 or is it unlimited

[tacit tulip]

Unlimited but I'd stop at 50

[coral goblet]

oh wait eldritch artifact maybe lets it go higher

gotcha

[tacit tulip]

Oh you mean the plates

60 cap

[coral goblet]

word ok

[tacit tulip]

30 base+10 for each artifact tier

[coral goblet]

is there a specific spot better to farm the 2nd ones so i can finish the stamp quest from w1

[lament jasper]

Does this adds if my two ES have this maxed ?

[dreamy spruce]

no

[lament jasper]

tyty

[tacit tulip]

Global talents don't stack 🙂

[lament jasper]

would've been funny

[green eagle]

these have been my last two untradeable ones, so when trading becomes a thing i can guarantee 1 sandy pot, 1 slime, 1 bean, 4 molti, 3 sheepies, 1 crystal, and 1 ram to trade to people who don't have one

[mild wadi]

does anyone know the scaling of mega chow? is it just 1.1x, 1.2x, 1.3x etc or scale 10% more each time?

[tacit tulip]

10% more

It's the good kind

[mild wadi]

alright i'll put some good gear on my BB and start

[tacit tulip]

Quick check, do you have two bbs?

[mild wadi]

nah just one

[tacit tulip]

Cool all good

There's a bug with 2 was all

[mild wadi]

good to know, thanks

[coral goblet]

100m kills on bb seems like itll take ages for me

even with candies

[tacit tulip]

It's gets easier the stronger you get

I'm doing mine today too

[mild wadi]

same, im at around 300k kph on gmush, even with ~5b dmg

[coral goblet]

im not really sure what else id wanna use my candy on though so probs the play

[gentle furnace]

need more mk and mob res

[tacit tulip]

yeah, damage isn't what gets you there

[gentle furnace]

i have more than 1m kph around 2b dmg

[noble mesa]

On bb?

[coral goblet]

probs finish w5 armor before doing it i guess

[noble mesa]

Noice

[gentle furnace]

you have big brain time equipped?

[tacit tulip]

I've been levelling it to 425

good point

[mild wadi]

woah thats huge. what are the best sources of mob res? i've got decent death note (all 1m+, gmush 500m or so)

[tacit tulip]

I'd have noticed before candying lol

The two keychains in the fomo shop are best in slot for respawn

[gentle furnace]

your afk gain seems low

[tacit tulip]

yeah this is just me pulling BB from his afk grind to here

it's not setup with chips or anything proper

need to give him wings/sleepyhat/maybe midnight rings too

[obsidian nacelle]

These one of them trades that got people in trouble 😂

[tacit tulip]

Nah that's a legit trade

[manic flume]

wasn't there a gold for gold trade back then?

[tacit tulip]

The bad one was good bars for more gold bars

[gentle furnace]

i wished i had snoozy hat

[manic flume]

which was the one that caused a "rollback"

[tacit tulip]

Scaling up to infinite

[coral goblet]

[hollow wasp]

i have 3k gems and idk what i should spend them on, i bought like every S A and B stuff

[hollow wasp]

lol

[dreamy spruce]

more vault space / inv space / carry cap / teleports cant hurt if you feel like you want more

[hollow wasp]

teleports? 👀

[dreamy spruce]

guess you dont need those

[hollow wasp]

i have all carry stuff maxed besides the "More Storage Space" 😄

[haughty sedge]

Where does that multi kill come from?

Its seems kinda huge 😅

[tacit tulip]

Ancient artifact gives +50% a tier

[devout thicket]

About Sailing: I always see people recommend putting the faster boat on getting new island. What should the rest do? Is it better to farm 1 island or spread all boats on different islands?

[tacit tulip]

I have +110% from vman talent too

[gentle furnace]

eclipse boost is HUGE, tripled my dmg

[green eagle]

i've finally gotten back to 100 green stacks after breaking a bunch in alchemy

[haughty sedge]

So vman and sailing arti mainly?

[dreamy spruce]

I'd expect deathnote to still be the biggest

[haughty sedge]

Well ive got all of the w1 red skulled

And i barely get 2m, but i dont have 200% afk gains 😅

I have around 130%

[placid mural]

get on my level =p

[tacit tulip]

I was gonna wait for eldy artifact for 75% before going for it

But nothing in about 6 weeks

[placid mural]

yeah that helps a lot

[bold quiver]

do u know how high people can get that multikill?

[green eagle]

shouldn't you turn off jawbreaker if going for gmush? lol for more MK

[tacit tulip]

So now I have divine scarf just gonna go for it

Jawbreaker isn't on in that screen

[placid mural]

im sure people are well over 20m

[bold quiver]

not kph, multikill itself

[tacit tulip]

There's so many sources it's hard to keep track of

[placid mural]

well i am pretty much tapped for W1, i have all eclipse, and all MK pets to level 6, the only other way i could grow my MK for W1 would be the yellow bubble getting higher

[dreamy spruce]

How big is your vman gmush sample? assuming you have it sampled

[tacit tulip]

Deathnote, bubble, vial, pets, vman, artifacts

I think are the main

[true obsidian]

round 9

[placid mural]

i havent done a Gmush sample with Vman in a fat minute, i will be doing one the next time i redo all my samples so i dont waste the printer artifact

[green eagle]

ah my bad i confused zerg rush with jawbreaker

[dreamy spruce]

ah okay

[placid mural]

last time i did it it was like 2.9m

[green eagle]

you wanna know something even more embarrassing? i have never leveled zerg rush. i don't even use it, i must've unlocked it and never even looked at it

thinking of all the extra samples i could have right now, making me

[placid mural]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-tom-slap-bad-boy-gif-16838445

[green eagle]

i assume you max zerg for that juicy afk bonus

[placid mural]

sexy

[green eagle]

it's maxed now 😿

[placid mural]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-my-baby-proud-gif-10121557

[gritty viper]

Does anyone have any advice for getting points on the second talent tree of VMan? It feels like a pain to run through multiple times but it seems like that's what it wants

[placid mural]

what is your highest portal count?

[tawdry epoch]

Is that with doot ?

[gentle furnace]

no

[tawdry epoch]

Niceeee

[tawdry epoch]

Whats your div set up

[gentle furnace]

9 goat, es on nobi+snek

[tawdry epoch]

Mhmm is that ss with es then

[gentle furnace]

yes

[tawdry epoch]

Makes more sens 😋

[steep cipher]

just crafted kattlecruk helmet. should i use on my DK or ES/Bubo?

[tiny dome]

Is there a way to make it so you redeem more than 3 arena tickets per day?

[placid mural]

if you are wanting to farm more keys, DK

[gentle furnace]

roll PO6

[tiny dome]

Gotcha

[lament jasper]

Did i not understand something ? why no sescond tab

[coral goblet]

zone out and zone in

[lament jasper]

Nevermind it was bugged

[placid mural]

Guys. . . i did a thing, i finally used up all of my silver pens lol\

[crisp silo]

Imposible

Did manual?

[dreamy spruce]

damn thats a lot

[placid mural]

yes

[gentle furnace]

how long did it took

[dreamy spruce]

enough to max out every upgrade?

[crisp silo]

Or did lil bro help

Isnt myriad 10k

[placid mural]

i set a goal to use 1000 pens, each day until i used them all up

[gentle furnace]

im lazy to even let lil bro help lol

[placid mural]

myraid is 100k

[crisp silo]

100k

Bro did 1k pens a day

Bro has commitment

[placid mural]

yeah i did 1k a day and then reset the shield for daily reset then did it again

[crisp silo]

Dang im alr tired by 100 boxes

[autumn wasp]

which companies did you do?

[placid mural]

all PO1

[fading cape]

well it happened. It finally happened. Had 5 tier 4 chemicals on gaming board and accidentally hit harvest all instead of sprinkler

[placid mural]

for inquiring minds

[prisma drift]

I could use 600 efficiency

[dreamy spruce]

damn that all stat scaling seems awful

[prisma drift]

How many pens was that?

[placid mural]

its not great, but its better than nothing

[crisp silo]

base all stat goes hard

[gentle furnace]

from 3.45b to 7.9b with 300 1hr candies, that's all for today

[sharp wind]

I reach 140 wormhole at stiltmole at 10.7 DR without midas and 120 wormhole at 12.44 DR with midas, should i use midas or no at this point? Is 20 difference in wormhole affect the drop by large gap? (Midas maxed)

[gentle furnace]

never use midas on es

[placid mural]

considering each portal kill is like 11 or 12% DR yeah drop midas

[sharp wind]

Alright thanks

[vestal yew]

do we know when w6 drops? I forgot where I saw the roadmap and forgot the rough date

[placid mural]

probably still a few months from now

maybe by the end of the year if we are lucky

[graceful rivet]

Do crystals spawn from portal kills ?

[vestal yew]

Trying to catch up before w6 drops

[dreamy spruce]

Its in #💖future-content-blog

[vestal yew]

just a little

[placid mural]

he didnt put dates on it though

[dreamy spruce]

true

[graceful rivet]

Jesus lol

[vestal yew]

feel like its impossible to catch up in this game lol

[placid mural]

dude i felt the same way for a long time until about 2 months ago

[dreamy spruce]

well yeah its an idle game so most things are time gated

[placid mural]

then i finally started to feel like i was playing the same game as a lot of the late gamers

[vestal yew]

yeah... I guess I just gatta work on one thing at a time

[placid mural]

i only started in march

[vestal yew]

I think I started around the same time

[echo crag]

it can take a bit of time and work for it to snowball, but when it does..

[placid mural]

yeah my snowball hit once i started atomizing bubbles

[graceful rivet]

It is possible due to power Creep

[placid mural]

and then a second time once my construction started picking up (once i completely redid board for higher xp cogs and my DKs started popping off)\

[echo crag]

doot+sheepie in my case is what cause the massive snowball

[placid mural]

that was the next big jump

[vestal yew]

I have only xp and what not for construction board... getting the construction xp boost cogs is such a pain though

[graceful rivet]

Island probably will give us some powercreep soon too

[vestal yew]

2 dk lvl 140 on board atm

[placid mural]

this took a lot of work and a lot of watching movies while playing cog clicker

[vestal yew]

is it just luck?

getting the good coge

[vestal yew]

cogs

[graceful rivet]

I’ll probably wait till I can instantly craft cogs b4 I do cog clicker xd

[placid mural]

just spamming lots and lots and lots of them

[vestal yew]

so just luck... lol

[placid mural]

and one by one replace your lowest xp cog with the next best one you get and keep going

like i said i just put a show on and just sat there clicking, deleting, clicking deleting

[vestal yew]

whats your construction rate for the people making the cogs?

[placid mural]

you put both your DKs to make cogs when playing cog clicker TD

[vestal yew]

mmkayy

[placid mural]

10 times faster cogs

you sacrifice temporary construction speed for masssssive gains in cog speed

[graceful rivet]

I guess cog clicker you start after unlocking construction mastery in rift

Correct ?

[placid mural]

not necessarily

the early construction mastery bonus' dont affect cogs

[sharp wind]

Damn… gotta start farming those mustache guy

[placid mural]

i only just got past the 1250 threshold yesterday (literally) and that is the first one that would impact cogs

[placid mural]

yes, get it to atom range and its HUGE

[sharp wind]

Rn, im getting my skilling bubble up first

[graceful rivet]

Hmmm

[sharp wind]

For those atoms

[placid mural]

If i am ever unsure where i want to use my daily atom bubblez i put it here without a doubt

[echo crag]

bob is to atom what GT is to water imo

[coral goblet]

almost made it

[fathom lagoon]

For the quest “diner deliverer” it’s asking me to upgrade the levels of some breeding upgrades. It doesn’t count if you’ve already leveled in the past? Has to be starting when quest is active?

[fervent brook]

Kind of lame that the guide sheet removed nearly all the info besides the companion sheet.

[fathom lagoon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/idleon/comments/1599tlh/new_idleon_spreadsheet/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

[dreamy spruce]

its a biggy, should work if you upgrade one, might work if you just look at it

[tall dirge]

im right in thinking i need full pop onols for both ES and DK do I need full pop on any other characters ?

[fervent brook]

Thanks

[fathom lagoon]

Might need to upgrade one, looking at it didn’t work. Thanks bro

[knotty estuary]

How do you increase dmg? I see you killing Nightmare w5 boss, while my dk takes 2 minutes to kill chaotic one

[rustic garnet]

There is no reason to keep

[placid mural]

he has spent over an hour working on his nightmare kill

[tall dirge]

hey nate, how many sets of silver pops and golden dice, plat dice and the other dice should I be getting? I mean i know ill need 1 set for ES 1 set for dk but does say SB need a set or whatever?

[wild python]

Did trapper drone get more level I swear it capped at 10

[placid mural]

@wild python

[dreamy spruce]

does SB flag score do anything or nah?

[tall dirge]

@rustic garnet

[dreamy spruce]

1 for family and 1 for a personal tree

[rustic garnet]

You should get one family and one personal set

[dreamy spruce]

2nd personal is QoL, you can swap around

[wild python]

But mine caps at 15 not 45?

[rustic garnet]

You COULD justify a couple extra sets as it's nice to not have to over swap

like... VMAN perma drop set may be cool

[placid mural]

just stockpiles respawns, if you have the Vman bonus talent it auto spawns a plunderous mob if you hit 100 on flag

[rustic garnet]

I'm tempted to make a perma VMAN set at this point

[tall dirge]

so when afk farming what obols should a guy be using ?

[dreamy spruce]

ahh alright, thanks

[rustic garnet]

it really depends

[tall dirge]

ait gotcha ty

going for 2 sets then massive cba with swapping

[rustic garnet]

yeah I'd say the other sets maybe worht getting

you want one for each skill

so mining, catching, fishing, and chopping should be huge gets

IMHO, you do not need cash, xp, or multikill

[tall dirge]

yeah ill look into how to get those obols then

[rustic garnet]

I think multikill is the worst

Trapping, Worship, Cons are good

[zinc torrent]

Skilling obols are sadly locked in alchemy

[dreamy spruce]

the skilling ones are just from alch right?

[rustic garnet]

cons is 'very' good

generally yeah

[sharp wind]

Anyone have td 3 build? !guide seems gone now

[bleak gazelle]

there's a pin in w3 if you're aiming for wave 40
otherwise here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[fathom lagoon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/idleon/comments/1599tlh/new_idleon_spreadsheet/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

[coral goblet]

[green eagle]

this is coming along nicely

[sharp wind]

Aiming for 110

[green eagle]

finished this today too

[sharp wind]

Thanks

[green eagle]

RIP search for it on youtube, guide is gone for the foreseeable future guess there has been a replacement, didn't realize

[sharp wind]

This one better 1 lightning or 2?

[fathom lagoon]

God bless Doot, have like 500 red pearls and just lvled all my vmans w1-3 skills to lvl 50+ lol

Thank god I didn’t have to do all that fishing and catching Jesus

[rustic garnet]

which stamp should I pump my 90+95% reduction into?

https://naterade.idleonefficiency.com/world-1/stamps

[sharp wind]

Alchemy speed probably?

[dreamy spruce]

is the cost reduction for cash or materials or both?

[sharp wind]

Dunno tho my stamp is sucks

[calm knoll]

Whats the meta W5 td setup nowadays?

[rustic garnet]

psicionic/poisoin for damage, lightning times 2 for the crit multiplier, void *1 to remove, 1 frost to slow, 3 kraken to push and party split 70% speed/30% damage

[dreamy spruce]

should I be saving my beach dock spices for bubble or use em to upgrade kitchens?

[rustic garnet]

bubble

[dreamy spruce]

alright

[fathom lagoon]

Bro is the gaming log complete rng? I swear there’s no skull during the flip time for the one I concentrate on and when I flip it it’s a fuckin skull lmao

[rustic garnet]

complete rng

apparently the previous screen is nothing

[fathom lagoon]

Ah wow lol

Jank

Haven’t unlocked pong yet but is that rng too?

[rustic garnet]

no, but zero value in pong

[fair nest]

I feel like im vottlenecked by my sailing. What am i missing? It takes forever to get an ancient

Like 2 or 3 days

[rustic garnet]

is what it is

[fair nest]

Which is like 200 chests

Or more

I have 21 chest slots

Real