lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[tacit tulip]

sure, 5* hard resources one day, but that feels years away

[dreamy spruce]

until new fish are released

[tacit tulip]

still don't see a world where goldfish overtake copper

[willow drum]

as it is once you greenstack fish and use them for stamps you have no need for them

[signal osprey]

It'll be done in no time

[lyric sequoia]

Not even shark ruby SMH

[echo crag]

why isnt buny ruby yet

[signal osprey]

Almost there

[tacit tulip]

my vman has been farming fish for exp so it's my only 5* hard card lol

[errant sluice]

new fishing spots maybe

[rustic garnet]

buny ruby via cardifier?

[signal osprey]

Nah I'm farming that shit

[errant sluice]

only 1 fish per spot

printer gains going

[rustic garnet]

why is BB good for cards specifically?

[pastel heath]

fishing is a pain as well as catching

[tacit tulip]

dunno, but he absolutely prints them out afk at fishies

[signal osprey]

Its his active skill

[tacit tulip]

ah that would do it

fish cards are based on the fish you catch, so it having that afk would be a large source of cards

[echo crag]

i really should finish getting kraken to plat, but not looking forwar to that

even less getting ruby

[signal osprey]

I cardified it to 4* and never looked back

[echo crag]

yeah im considering cradifying it from 3* > 5*

[signal osprey]

Maybe I'll do the same with 5* one day but don't really care about fishing enough to bother

[echo crag]

as much as i know its a waste

[tacit tulip]

it'd maybe be worth it once everything else was done for the 2% afk gains

[signal osprey]

Yeah if that was the last card between me and the set bonus I would do it

But I still have all the soul cards to 5*

[tacit tulip]

I'm looking forward to w6 coming out and losing my boss set

[signal osprey]

So its gonna be awhile

[tacit tulip]

hoping I can get enough ruby before then to skip that pain

I have 8, so assuming 3 boss cards I need 7 more

[signal osprey]

I should stop being lazy and finish my 5* boss set too

[proud olive]

what damage range you have when you unlock the rift for ruby cards

[grand karma]

i had about 150 - 200b

[willow drum]

I unlocked it recently with about 150b

[tacit tulip]

some people said 120-130 but I wasn't able to get close with that

[proud olive]

thx

[willow drum]

my dk had lower but ES definitely had 150+

[signal osprey]

130b requires 200+ talents and you need to stand on one of the small platforms on the left side of the map

[bold quiver]

100B-110B is enough with ES

i did with that

just make sure u level your skills and u will be fine

[tacit tulip]

yeah my issue was the talents

was just easier to stack damage

[bold quiver]

that dmg booster talent is very important also

[proud olive]

i really want to lvl up my cards. its been too long.

[fathom lagoon]

Just saw the update

[bold quiver]

do it like most of us, get that rift and dont level up cards at all lol

[willow drum]

ruby cards take soo long to get

[bold quiver]

new atom update?

[willow drum]

my vman is slowly pushing em

[fathom lagoon]

Nah the expeditions update in new content channel

[bold quiver]

oh i see. Probably released before the end of the month

[fathom lagoon]

I believe he said it should be out by eom

[bold quiver]

eom?

[dreamy spruce]

end of month mby?

[fathom lagoon]

Yea end of month

[dreamy spruce]

thats what he said at least

[fathom lagoon]

It was originally in that 7/20 message but I think he edited it lol

[echo crag]

better to not have a date in case it takes longer lol

[fathom lagoon]

Oh jk it was this message

#💖future-content-blog message

“Later this month” in the pic

[bold quiver]

yeah later

Does anyone know if sygils progression is bugged if u are farming bosses?

[sacred frigate]

Apologies in advance for the stupid question but is 4281.8M damage equal to 4B or 40B?

[bold quiver]

4b

[fathom lagoon]

4B

[bold quiver]

M equals 10³

[fathom lagoon]

4,281,000,000

[sacred frigate]

Thanks everyone. Damn I'm far away from Ruby card rift

[bold quiver]

yeah that cant make a 6 with the keyboard

When iget to 10T, will my dmg sheet be 10T? ot 10000000M bunch of zero

[void vector]

The zero's one.

[fathom lagoon]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[bold quiver]

lame

[dreamy spruce]

thats for 1t

[fathom lagoon]

Ah true

[dreamy spruce]

#idleon-gen-chat message

should be 10t then @bold quiver

[bold quiver]

unexciting, doesnt make u wanna get dmg

someone said sheet will show 10 with bunch of zero and M, sad

[dreamy spruce]

hotair said it shows 10t tho

and hotair seems like he would know

[quasi galleon]

I know things

[bold quiver]

i see, hadnt checked that. Thanks

[nimble yarrow]

I currently get at least 1million kills/hour on all W1 mobs on my BB. Should I go ahead and use candies to super chow all W1 mobs?

[signal osprey]

You dont get to keep your zeros but it does change colors if that counts for anything

[dreamy spruce]

that is a cool color

[stiff prairie]

Question about the elephant god: does it only proc on full hours, or would 2 half hours proc on the second?

[dreamy spruce]

procs on all times, display just rounds up

[signal osprey]

It gives you progress equal to the time you afk

[stiff prairie]

So how does that work for printing? do you actually get say, half an hours worth of print, or that the next print just happens half an hour earlier?

Or am i reading too much into it and don't need to worry

[dreamy spruce]

I've been assuming that it makes next print half an hour earlier, but I dont know

lemme try to test it out

[fathom lagoon]

Next print half hour earlier, you’re just always pushing the timer forward in that sense, like refinery

[dreamy spruce]

nvm then

[fathom lagoon]

If it procs for 40 mins and you play active for 20 mins you should hit that print then

[tight ridge]

i aint ever seen this spot before idk if it glitched or i can stand here again ill try now

[noble mesa]

I did my prints after a month and gat ×6 the amount , fill so good

[tight ridge]

u cant go back up there :c

[paper sail]

The map used to be way taller than it is now. Lava just made the old paths invisible and moved the portal down. Not a huge deal

[lapis mesa]

Vman does boss kills right?

[sick sentinel]

sure

[paper sail]

All except NM Kruk unless you're beefy

[stiff prairie]

Old location. the bored bean map used to be much larger

[lapis mesa]

im not even to Kruk, i just have a few keys to burn

[sick sentinel]

finally

[paper sail]

Nice! I just hit 9500 myself

[sick sentinel]

hell yeah

it gets tough

[paper sail]

Yup

[noble mesa]

Im at like6.5...

[paper sail]

I don't make enough money to support some of them, even over a 5 day period

But I'm cleaning up some of the neglected ones that I normally don't care too much about

[sick sentinel]

i feel like i went harder on money than other areas

[thin kernel]

that sad moment when you sail is lvl 9 and and hit the jackpot of not getting a lvl annnd reset it back to lvl 5.. thank god for the new atom

[sick sentinel]

Thats rough buddy

[lapis mesa]

alright, next newb question. i should go do normal chi, so i have 500 ish chances at blankies? since chaotic cost is 5x for only 3x chance

[paper sail]

Hell yeah jackpot 🥲

[sick sentinel]

Sad lottery noises

[sick sentinel]

If u want key efficiency yes

[thin kernel]

well time to farm some new mail for the snail :/

[sick sentinel]

Amd gems

[paper sail]

I'd generally vote basing it on the Boss Cards

[modern plaza]

nice 100% chance for discount

[gentle knot]

Could someone explain what Scaled skill efficiency is and if its important? Referring to Nobisect blessing

[signal osprey]

It gives efficiency based on how much you currently have in that skill

[little pagoda]

Uhhh how is my blood berserker linked to 2 gods?

[signal osprey]

And all math formulas aside yes its a good bonus

[gentle knot]

fair enough, thanks!

[paper sail]

I thought it was kinda bad. The bonus gets worse as you get better, yeah?

It is just a catchup mechanic

[signal osprey]

It has a minimum set at 5 base efficiency per blessing level

Which amounts to 500 total at max

[paper sail]

500 efficiency 🥲

[signal osprey]

500 base efficiency is equivalent to 25 levels of multitool

So its nothing to scoff at

[paper sail]

yeah I didn't know it had a minimum per level like that. Not so bad.

[tacit tulip]

wonder if with w6 we'll get a new coin type

given just how many godshard some people are getting already

that or it'll be green money

[signal osprey]

I just want him to fix the display for coins

[dreamy spruce]

probably just the new ores I'd assume

[tacit tulip]

currently the ores only go up to godshard

tho there's a bunch to pilfer from idle skilling too

[paper sail]

He'll ignore money until it hits a new overflow threshold 🙂

[dreamy spruce]

I'd imagine he adds new ores in w6

[signal osprey]

Yeah he'll add godshard in W6

Coins already go up to that

[tight ridge]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[signal osprey]

The problem is that currently the game doesnt support more than 2 digits per type of coin though and theres nothing after godshard coins so it just pushes everything over one digit

[little pagoda]

So why does it say unlink when I click the bear god in all my characters but also says unlink on snake god?

[signal osprey]

Thats 22,171 godshard

[tight ridge]

what is this wheres the excel sheet wtf

[tacit tulip]

you can unlink from any god (it brings up an unlink ui)

[little pagoda]

I thought I was only linked to 1?

[tacit tulip]

yeah, but you unlink the account as a whole

[lapis mesa]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/edit#gid=1286504271 this should work, the creators deleted the old one in protest

[tight ridge]

did this happen recently?

[lapis mesa]

yesterday

[tight ridge]

damn, ive had my pc open for almost a month and was like okay let me give it a break so i lost the old sheet

[dreamy spruce]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#
this the sheet if you're interested

[pure meadow]

droprate obol or the new boss obol for star shaped obolholes?

[tacit tulip]

drop for active, boss for afk

[paper sail]

Depends on your goal. Droprate for active, Kruk for most AFK activities

[lapis mesa]

yeah ive still got the guide open since im really bad about shutting down my comp

[pure meadow]

thank you two!

[dreamy spruce]

even if you shut it down you can just reopen tabs afterwards

[little pagoda]

Ok so just confusing UI, but no one is actually linked to bear except the 2 ES

How does minor link bonus scale?

[sick sentinel]

from that chars div lvl

[little pagoda]

Ah alright

[dapper prism]

Also an alch bubble in yellow will add a % multiplier on it to make it possible to reach the cap

[little pagoda]

I see, that's good. Probhably will need to go back to divinity soon ish

Unlocked bear god and now I will put everyone in lab and resample all I can

But after that no idea what I'm gonna do lol

[dapper prism]

I wrote some guide in the pins for divinity

Definetely aim for Goat asap so you can camp lab while also getting div progress

[little pagoda]

Goat is which one?

[dreamy spruce]

Does having doot change the priority in any way?

[dapper prism]

Probably, not sure how it is now but do you still get all gods even if not unlocked? (besides blessings and tiger)

[dreamy spruce]

yep

I've just tossed most in lab to get lab lvls + div

[calm knoll]

I was thinking of just doing bubo active till W6 comes out to see what happens after passing int value for Godshard

[dapper prism]

Yeh, then the only bonus you wont have afaik is boat speed and gaming growth speed from tiger, as that needs to be equipped to work, plus all the blessings and low level div = low minor links.

So you still want to unlock gods asap (get to lvl 10 then focus stance for pts/h) but instead of on altar, just be in lab.
As some gods like Goat+tiger give sail speed, or Snake+Bear+bunny+omni give div gain on their blessings. Minors obviously also help so having higher div levels would buff those minors.

[dreamy spruce]

Alright, thanks!

[signal osprey]

Yeah its not very fun. I have to use IE to know how much money I have. In game display just let's you guess

[obtuse patrol]

can you get Adept Recipe from Suggma more than once?

im on 350m kc right now and still done have it

[lapis mesa]

no, once it drops it gone from the table

[pulsar cliff]

I'm almost scared to ask - wtf is your cash modifier to be at that much god shard?

[lapis mesa]

!recipedrop

[obtuse orbit]

Recipe drops are a bit different from the other drops when you view them on your card. If the recipe is black, it means you have never picked up a recipe from that anvil tab. If your recipe is lit up it means you have found one from that anvil tab, lucky you! However, if you learn a recipe, that specific recipe will no longer be displayed at all on that monsters card.

[dapper prism]

Kills arnt actual kills though because a lot of that is most likely from MK and KPK kills.

[signal osprey]

This is my DK's multi which is who I farmed most of that on. If it was on bubo I could have gotten even more

[pulsar cliff]

Jesus.

[lapis mesa]

oh my good lord

[dreamy spruce]

are all the multipliers multiplicative? for cash

[obtuse patrol]

ture, that probs right just got to wait i got all 10 charecter on it now, thank you

[signal osprey]

The ones with an asterisk are separate multis the rest are added together

[lapis mesa]

hmm 100 chi got me 2 blankies and enough cards for 4*, neat. think ill go to chaotic for cards next

[pulsar cliff]

Oh that's idleon toolbox

I was looking at my 500k mod from Efficiency and was somad confused.

[signal osprey]

If I change some cards around and set up my bubo he gets up to that

[pulsar cliff]

Still bonkers.

[signal osprey]

And yeah IE doesnt have a lot of the W5 money multis accounted for so it always shows way less than IT

Thats the same bubo for comparison

[pulsar cliff]

I can figure out how I'm off my a factor of 10 or 50, but maybe not a factor of y'know. 1000.

[signal osprey]

Gmush and alch are gonna be your two biggest individual sources

[pulsar cliff]

Is the major diff between DK and Bubo just that the cash scaling from bubbles is a lot easier to level for WIS?

Yeeeeah, I've neglected GMush hard apparently lol.

[dreamy spruce]

bubo has more kph

[pulsar cliff]

KPH won't factor into the number being posted tho.

[signal osprey]

Biggest difference in those two is cards I would assume

I run a few money cards on bubo whereas my DK was full DR

[signal osprey]

Maybe some other small differences but cards are the only one that comes to mind

[pulsar cliff]

Your lab is like 10x mine lol.

But yeah lab and bubbles. Well time to banish a siege breaker to mush's.

[pulsar cliff]

That'ddo it.

[signal osprey]

I really need to be less lazy and push that higher

[pulsar cliff]

Lol me too clearly. Just got my Larry bubble to 1.1k, trying to figure out what to dump my atoms into daily now.

[signal osprey]

When in doubt do sampling bubbles

Or bob

[placid mural]

y'all i feel so much better seeing Lava post regular in the future content blog. . .

[next wigeon]

Is this any good? I'm lvl 15 gaming

[dreamy spruce]

its a good early purchase yeah

[next wigeon]

Bad later?

I only buy things that will be very useful forever

[dreamy spruce]

its best use is unlocking it early afaik (the sprinkler)

[fallow aurora]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#
does anyone have a copy of this google sheet before it was closed?

[calm knoll]

Buy doot and you wont need it

[fallow aurora]

i'm f2p

[coral goblet]

just got this, should i just let everything sit?

[calm knoll]

You can for the extra multi, dont forget to turn on kitsune

[coral goblet]

yeah i got it rollin and been a couple days sofar and dumping tree and shovels etc just makin sure there no extra thing

[south gull]

https://web.archive.org/web/20230403011952/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[fallow aurora]

ty!

[lost depot]

Yeah you can either focus farm evolutions with Kitsune rock or just hope you get lucky from a log / chemical proc in the long term

Higher evolutions can take months to farm even with Kitsune so it can be better to just wait laiter on

[vagrant mountain]

chemical gaming

[lost depot]

God I wish "Harvest All" was more useful

Doing high level gaming harvesting optimally can take hours per day

[fallow aurora]

you can harvest optimally?

[lost depot]

There is an ideal order to harvesting plants

[fallow aurora]

oh....

[lost depot]

Normal plants > venus flytraps > cactus > chemicals

[fallow aurora]

ty

[vocal rose]

Sailing: should you use the "minimum chest" selector?

[lost depot]

It depends on if you have the SB buff activated I think

Honestly I wish it was more intuitive to know what sailing stuff is good

There are way too many red-herring mechanics lol

[lost depot]

Basically you want to use your cactuses when you have a full board of plants so they get the most coverage

And you always want to save chemicals till last because they will fill most of your plant slots

[fallow aurora]

I havn't unlocked the chemical plant yet

[sharp garden]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[sharp garden]

Where can I find the different divinity set ups?

[lapis mesa]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/edit#gid=1286504271

[barren lance]

Does right hand of action count if they have the same skill level is the

as the zoidwalker

[sick sentinel]

Vman needs to be 1 higher

[barren lance]

thanks

[quiet pewter]

yw

i broke 1M dmg, anyone got more than that or am i the highest now?

[prisma drift]

I actually have 1.1m damage so ha

[quiet pewter]

i'll get you one day

[sharp garden]

Isn't this version empty?

[full cobalt]

hey guys any tips for speeding up Salt manufacture speed? I'm currently bottlenecked on it

[quiet pewter]

higher levels and elephants gods

[lapis mesa]

this is one someone copy and sorta pasted from the original that they had open. its not as clean but the info is there

[sick sentinel]

If u have omni god u can linked almost all to it for procs. Active dk also boosts refinery

[full cobalt]

oh sweet ty

[sharp garden]

Oh alright the pictures weren't loading the first time

[sick sentinel]

Its like a 1/8 proc or something but can help u a lot in niche areas that time gate stuff

[little pagoda]

Should I invest in magic box for ES to reduce portal cooldown?

[quiet pewter]

yes

[little pagoda]

Thought so, what is the priority, drop rate or magic box?

[full cobalt]

Perfect ty, most of my characters are on omniphau but i was about to switch away

[quiet pewter]

you should max all the PO its pretty cheap ( i mean apart from off- specialist talents)

[little pagoda]

Yeah that's a goal but I'm not able to farm pens quite yet

[quiet pewter]

the dmg one on the second tab is ok too

[signal osprey]

I'm not sure what in worse shape now my candy supplies or my wrist but either way I went and gmushed my heart out

[sick sentinel]

Whadya get to

[kind epoch]

With the PO Box are you eventually able to just get everything?

[quiet pewter]

yeah

[sick sentinel]

Yes

[quiet pewter]

i mean apart from the 1000,000 cap one

[sick sentinel]

When u start crystal farming, pens come ez

[signal osprey]

Before and after

[sick sentinel]

Using them sucks tho

[kind epoch]

Ok. So I'm just massively overthinking the post office then haha

[quiet pewter]

its not even that tough, dk on crystal farming can get several 100 a day

[little pagoda]

Which one do people generally reset? The easiest one or the ones with tickets or whatever rewards?

[quiet pewter]

you spam the first order

typically up to a multiple of 100

[full cobalt]

divine knight right? Which talent(s)?

[sick sentinel]

Spam first order, usually cheap enough for most people to not need to break streak

[sick sentinel]

Family bonus

[full cobalt]

oh sweet

[quiet pewter]

and probably obvious but his talent that straight up gives refinery cycles like once a day

[sick sentinel]

That with the family guy talent gives a tad more of a boost

[full cobalt]

indeed ty

[sick sentinel]

Cause the family bonus is just for everyone but i bleieve the family guy talent is only for the specific character that is active

[full cobalt]

copy that! i have to farm orb kills anyways

ezpz

ty circ

[quiet pewter]

i helped too

[sick sentinel]

Thanks walrus

[full cobalt]

and ty @quiet pewter

[quiet pewter]

thanks circ

[sick sentinel]

Thanks billy

[full cobalt]

thanks myself

[sick sentinel]

🤝

[full cobalt]

oof

[paper sail]

My understanding was that DK and SB Family Guy were modified to actually apply to the whole account, even when they aren't the active character

#patch-notes📝 message

[quiet pewter]

leveling this may help your refinery

[full cobalt]

thank u walrus

[quiet pewter]

thanks billy

[full cobalt]

much appreciated! i didnt have it leveled anyways LOL

[paper sail]

Lul

If you have a spare DK and SB in the lab, they can max it and be all set

[full cobalt]

what does the lab do for them?

sry for dumb questions, im so far behind on this game lul

[paper sail]

Harriep for 6x printing

Assuming no Doot anyway

[full cobalt]

harriep is only printer not refinery

[potent maple]

does everyone run royal sampler prayer or no?

[paper sail]

Yeah I went a bit of a side tangent, focusing om the family guy comment

[full cobalt]

ahh ok

[quiet pewter]

yeah, your unlikley to hit max print without it, the exp cut isnt that much

[signal osprey]

Its not possible to hit max without it

And the exp doesn't matter

[potent maple]

what is max print? i have a feeling since i'm asking this question, i'm nowhere near it

[paper sail]

Not just unlikely. It is flat out impossible to reach 90% print sample rate without Royal Sampler prayer on.

[signal osprey]

90%

[quiet pewter]

90%

[potent maple]

ah i see

[signal osprey]

You can view your sample size in the con tab on your skills page

[potent maple]

80.3% without trying previously

[muted sandal]

yo, I got doot and just reached purrmep -is it worth taking SBs out of lab to go sit on gmush for eclipse skull, or do you reckon I get everyone to lv 40 div for tranqi before I take them back out?

[quiet pewter]

doot will mess with your lab, probably best to trade it off

[bold quiver]

Do u know what would be nice? If u could change the prayer level after unlocking. Then u could max everything and change as u feel like it.

[vestal delta]

oh my god finally a nugget upgrade

[bold quiver]

Cuz some prayer as very unforgivin if u level too much

[potent maple]

yes i was just thinking that I should not have leveled it so hard

[full cobalt]

@vestal delta hype

[nimble yarrow]

If I have about 1mil kill/hour on all W1 mobs with my BB should I use candies to go ahead and get super chow on them all or wait til I'm even higher

[paper sail]

Do you have 1500hrs? Go for it

[opaque sun]

get 5m kills and you would save 5x more candies

[quiet pewter]

if you get 10m you could save like... a bit more too

[heavy moth]

@signal osprey bandage ripped off

[sharp warren]

Get 100m and keep most of your candies

[quiet pewter]

did it work out? last time i did it i broke even

[opaque sun]

realistically, you can only reach around 20m/hr currently

[wheat crown]

What's the secret to getting so much kph? ES at 17b Max damage and multi kill is 10K or something and still only 2mill kph

[heavy moth]

didnt resample yet XD just forced myself to do so

[opaque sun]

respawn, afk gain, mk per tier

[nimble yarrow]

I do have about 2k hours saved up rn

[opaque sun]

damage is just a sub stat for “mk per tier”

[sleek tree]

Someone have the google drive idleon sheet?

[quiet pewter]

as long as youve been atoming up, youll probably be fine, or ahead

[wheat crown]

So just gotta find respawn and afk gain bonuses mainly

[signal osprey]

Pretty much

[wheat crown]

Can't fix my alchemy much rn cause bad prints

[opaque sun]

need to fix alchemy to fix that bad prints

[paper sail]

Which came first: the alchemy or the print? 🤔

[wheat crown]

Working on it slowly

[heavy moth]

well lets hope i at least double my previous sample, no reason not too

[quiet pewter]

you got this

[heavy moth]

was more than time i sample my old one

[opaque sun]

you can check the afk info on oak to roughly check before pressing the print button

[heavy moth]

yea just gotta do my checklist to all required gear and stuff XD

[bold quiver]

nicee samples!

[heavy moth]

old one XD

[bold quiver]

need to give ore samples some love

[signal osprey]

1b oak incoming

[bold quiver]

[heavy moth]

that would be awesome but i dont think ill pass the 500mil

[paper sail]

I'd be impressed. I only jumped my oaks from ~330 to 607m

[quiet pewter]

if your sample goes over 1050M the game breaks (probably)

[signal osprey]

Well not with that attitude

[heavy moth]

facts

ill probably get that 1 bil oak

[bold quiver]

im picking up the pace! i wil have a hammer hammer as high as contract's

how many atoms are 1050M material?

[signal osprey]

My game still works

[quiet pewter]

i cant belive its not called hammer time

[heavy moth]

hehe ahead

[quiet pewter]

RIP, game broke

[signal osprey]

There are people close to double that sample too

Nobody has broken anything yet

[bold quiver]

howw!

[silver moon]

What have people been able to get up to on vman speed runs?

[paper sail]

hehe ahead (inb4 I get bonked)

[quiet pewter]

lava has

[bold quiver]

Portal speedrun score?

[heavy moth]

damn ahhaha was just a question of second to get bonked XD

[bold quiver]

Mine is 61 but i can squeeze 63 if i perfect the run

[signal osprey]

Highest I've seen is 66 portals

[silver moon]

Man, that is crazy.

[paper sail]

Oof, damn I am slacking. I got a 42 the other day.. Huge improvement over the 41 I got on literally day 2 of Vman existing

[signal osprey]

I have 52 but I got that when vman was released and havent ever bothered trying again

[bold quiver]

how can u live not maxing all his skills in 1 setup!

[signal osprey]

I basically already can

[bold quiver]

how? O.O

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-pain-harold-gif-10576512

[bold quiver]

we cant get extra points there with alchemy

[signal osprey]

Well the exp skill is useless and agi is really only good for SB damage or catching prints so who cares

I just skipped those two talents entirely

[bold quiver]

but but D: talents

Also i just realized that my last sample was without a single point on extra stats lol

f me

[signal osprey]

I'm missing some damage and thats really it

Nothing major

[bold quiver]

yeah

thats what i used to run also

is it worth trying to get the 3 stamps from arcade? like are they good for something? o.o or black pickle

[signal osprey]

Gold ball stamp is good

Other two are just +1 slab

[bold quiver]

what does it do

[signal osprey]

Discount on gold ball upgrades

[paper sail]

Pickle ain't so shabby

[bold quiver]

dammn thats also huge

[paper sail]

Although I'm pretty sure there is a 30 minute cap on ball generation

[signal osprey]

I think arcade ball rate has a cap

[paper sail]

Yeah, mine hasn't budged for a while

[signal osprey]

Yeah I'm at 30 minutes as well

[paper sail]

All the more reason to continue being antisocial

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkk i also havent done that

[signal osprey]

Yeah but now you get gaming bits for that too

[bleak gazelle]

oh, that's good to know, since i'm at like 32 minutes but can't get balljoe to give me his vial

[bold quiver]

magine if we actualy had somewhere to spend the bits!

[signal osprey]

Still gotta keep pushing them as hard as you can

[paper sail]

My bit multi do be pretty

[bold quiver]

yeaaah yesterday i did 1 gaming and managed to score 18k, beat my highescore of 14k

[signal osprey]

Right now 90Q isnt very doable but what if the next bonus to bit multi changes that

But it just barely makes it doable so you still need your other bonuses pushed far

[bold quiver]

even T doesnt seem very doable the way t is

[signal osprey]

We cant hit it yet be we need to get as close as we can if we want the best chance at getting the 90Q bit as early as we can

[bold quiver]

yeah

thats what ive been doing, just pushing this since all the other are meh for now

already at 100k range. Gona wait until this gets to almost 100M before i go back to those

[signal osprey]

After that gmush session I no longer drop dementia coins from beans

[bold quiver]

holy. did u candy gmush?

[lapis glacier]

What does the shovel do exactly? 😮

[signal osprey]

Yeah I went and burnt my candy

Like most of it

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkkkk how many bil did u get

[signal osprey]

Went from 9b to 30b

[paper sail]

[bold quiver]

holy thats fire

i was thinking about burning around 1k 1h just to get bars + anvil with my SB

[signal osprey]

Gonna need all the cash I can get if I want to cap the mining and chopping stamps before my next sample

[bold quiver]

it wil give me around 15B gmush, not bad

[signal osprey]

Especially if I'm farming beans because that means less time to actually farm money

[bold quiver]

Indeed. What do u do? farm beans day and money overnight?

[signal osprey]

I farm beans during the day and money beans overnight

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkkkk

fair enough

[signal osprey]

Current goal is 1m stack of gold peanuts and 100m leaves

[bold quiver]

why so shy? 100M both

[signal osprey]

Well I cant equip that many peanuts at once

[little pagoda]

Does anyone know why sometimes ice shards multihit and sometimes it doesn't?

[signal osprey]

Its probably just buggy

[little pagoda]

Sometimes it's an amazing skill, but most of the time it only hits 1 mob

[serene solstice]

send help pls

[bold quiver]

yeah, tats why its detrimental to farm with that on active bar on ES

takes too long to cast and doesnt hit very well

[paper sail]

It is really janky involving platforms, both yourself and the enemy platform

Tons of mentions of it down in #bug-reports-🐛

[sick sentinel]

i think i remember something about it working on the highest platform, but not below

[paper sail]

I just don't even level Ice Shards 😦 RIP

[ebon thunder]

Does being connected to artic and goharut through elemental mage makes me no longer have to be at the altar and lab to trigger divinity? Or do I still need to be at the lab to get the divinity gain?

[paper sail]

You still have to be in the Lab.

[sick sentinel]

nope, still need to either be in lab or on div

[little pagoda]

That does seem to be the case

[bold quiver]

Bear = not physicaly at lab.
Goharut = needs to be physicaly at lab and claim exp there

[ebon thunder]

Ah, thanks for the info

[little pagoda]

is midas prayer worth on ES? I'm trying to figure out myself but I don't know how base drop rarity interacts with wormhole drop rarity

[signal osprey]

Its almost never worth it

[bold quiver]

Never tested for rare drops. But for monster materials its never good

[signal osprey]

You're correct in assuming that you want to stack drop rate

[little pagoda]

I mean it's good on DK when you can one shot the mobs but for wormhole the increased HP actually matters

[signal osprey]

But midas increases mob health which means you get less wormhole kills

And 99.9% of the time its a net loss

[little pagoda]

Unless you have a trillion damage on gmush or something? lmao

[signal osprey]

Nope its always a loss no matter what

More damage means more kills and therefore more drops

There is no damage threshold where it becomes good

[gray thicket]

Is this worth leveling up above level 6 if my Red Salt rank is 12?

[bold quiver]

but there is a time limit for portal score. I guess that if u equip midas and finish a portal without losing kills it will be good

[little pagoda]

yeah that's what I was thinking, but idk if it's even possible to one shot mobs for the whole duration of wormhole

[signal osprey]

The only way I can see it being good is if the mob health scaling has some sort of soft cap

[bold quiver]

and for that u'd need not only to be at w1 but also insanely strong

[signal osprey]

But I dont think it does

And if it does I dont think anyone has reached it

[bold quiver]

hmm need to test and see if monsters get too strong to kill at w1 or if portal duration ends first

IF by chance duration ends first, equipping midas will help as long as u have the same max score

[hardy bloom]

woa do you get all chemical if you unlock it? or you just harvested the non-chemical ones? whats the purpose of having all chem

[violet totem]

so ive just unlocked this at 0.4%
Whats the use? How i utilize it the best?

[signal osprey]

You would need absurd damage to do that though

Even if you can manage a portal with full one shots that is with base health

Now increase that by 1300%

[bold quiver]

yep could only imagine it being "possible at idk, gmush, frogs, something weak like that

[signal osprey]

Which is a multi

Its just not possible right now

[bold quiver]

==[

[bold quiver]

just a normal plant that can grow haha

[signal osprey]

And even if it was it would be on gmush

[signal osprey]

Aint nobody need to active Es some gmush

[bold quiver]

which is pointless lol

[serene solstice]

its not ending ffs

I am just getting non stop chemicals D:

[bold quiver]

my record was around 2h30min

not a fun day

[serene solstice]

mine only 2h

triggered

[hardy bloom]

is it a good thing or a bad thing? what is the benefit of keeping all chem and not harvesting it

[bold quiver]

Funny how we love chemical when we unlock, but after a while u start to dread it

[serene solstice]

the thing is I am harvesting them but I do get more after harvesting and overall its good because you get a time skip what makes shovel rdy for some nuggets and gives evolved plants

for bits

but it happens often that it not stops spawning new chemicals what is at the ende a massive time loss xD

[royal cliff]

It give no bits?

[bold quiver]

Chemical = Gaming time. Each evolution level gives a dif time. But we usualy wait for 4TH or 5th evolution which are 16 and 24h

[serene solstice]

chemicals itself give bits too

[signal osprey]

Haters will disagree but true endgame is clicking harvest all on a full chem board to get the biggest nugget circle you can get 🗿

[serene solstice]

but not much

[serene solstice]

good that it would never help me

because new nuggets do not exist for me

[bold quiver]

i did that. Harvestd all on 19 chemical i had saved when going to t6

Should have taken a screenshot kkkkkkkkkkk

[hardy bloom]

it gives gaming time if it evolves or if you harvest it?

[royal cliff]

Im only at voraci

[bold quiver]

harvest.
each evolution give a dif time

[hardy bloom]

mhmm okay, thank you

[royal cliff]

More time*

[hardy bloom]

how much percentage did you guys have when you unlocked chemical

[coral goblet]

1%

[signal osprey]

.1%

[bold quiver]

i used to save 100 dna, no idea what it was, prob 0,4 0,5%

[hardy bloom]

im still at the tree one

[royal cliff]

0 percent cuz i dont have it

[serene solstice]

idk I don't remember stuff from the past much

[hardy bloom]

oooh very lucky

[serene solstice]

I actually don't even know anymore what I ate yesterday...

[bold quiver]

haha its not luck, u just spam

[serene solstice]

or the day before...

[signal osprey]

For chem thats actually standard. The chance scales very poorly so you spam as often as you can usually at .1-.3%

It takes a lot of tries and it kind of sucks but theres really no better option

[haughty cove]

my build worked well hehe

i wish i get to 125 qith it

[serene solstice]

from 9 chemicals to 8 to 7 and back to 9

[haughty cove]

wow its working better then i thought

but the dmg is low af

[haughty cove]

is it possible to get to 200 with these????

[heavy moth]

already failed my linking for resample XD fml

[lost beacon]

What finally unlocked it for me was putting on Kitsu, finding the minimum plants I have to harvest to hit .1% and just brute forcing it. This was after months of trying at higher percentages with fewer attempts.

[bold quiver]

probably not

[haughty cove]

well they still going

[worldly hollow]

Damn. Good day for alchemy. Got pearler shell, hampter and dust mote vials rolled within the 18 dailies lol

[haughty cove]

but the dmg is soooo tiny

[heavy moth]

am i forgetting something in gear, kinda confused with the new stuff

[haughty cove]

taking them alot of time to kill them

[hardy bloom]

i think this will stop before 150, i forgot where mine stopped with a similar setup

[sick sentinel]

snoozy?

[bold quiver]

idle skillig trphy

[heavy moth]

facts thanks

[heavy moth]

😦 locked out my account with a bug and never was able to claim

[bold quiver]

bugabuser

[hardy bloom]

the alchemic skill ruined it for me because my shields turned into skulls in a crucial time

[bold quiver]

having alchemic for arena 200 is so bad D:

u sacrifice 100% consistency at the cost of finishing it faster

[haughty cove]

you sure?

its doing great job honestly

i mean the pets

wirdly my phone isn't laggy at all

well its a little laggy

[hardy bloom]

im not sure, thats why i said i think ,but yeah just prayge to the rngods

[haughty cove]

i think i gonna go to sleep XD its taking shit ton of time

[serene solstice]

I am finaly free

this were about 40 chemicals for achievement pog

[haughty cove]

what round do i get the last buff? 200?

[serene solstice]

yes

you need to beat it ofc

[haughty cove]

i know

175 give a buff too right?

[haughty cove]

ty man

[serene solstice]

yw

[haughty cove]

i think i could beat 200 with only the 30 pets remains

im on phone and wirdly no lag wow

[serene solstice]

I did arena with 1 fps

[haughty cove]

your on phone?

[serene solstice]

no was on pc

long time ago

[serene solstice]

before the high performance thing came

[haughty cove]

check these

im board

[heavy moth]

not close to 1 bil XD

[serene solstice]

gg xD

I will resample today but not now

[signal osprey]

Get that 500m

Find what you were missing

[serene solstice]

like probably in the evening or so

[heavy moth]

obols

[haughty cove]

wow noice

[signal osprey]

Did you mana snap?

[heavy moth]

i did not

[serene solstice]

btw how you snapshot again?

[signal osprey]

1. Equip hp/mp gear
2. Quick ref alchemy
3. Switch to skilling gear

[serene solstice]

why is this even a thing

[bold quiver]

some people like to min max

[serene solstice]

no that its possible I mean

[bold quiver]

its such small % of gains, not that worth imo

[signal osprey]

I would assume that works because the hp/mp scaling comes from an alch bubble

So when you view alchemy it updates your values based on your current hp/mp

And for whatever reason you retain that bonus even when you lose those stats for skilling gear

[haughty cove]

is there an skill that could break thro shield?

[heavy moth]

would of thought its was gonna be bigger with all those level in alchemy XD but well gains are gains

[haughty cove]

i mean a type of axe thingys

[signal osprey]

Well the bubble gives you quite a lot of efficiency

But you have to remember that you have mana even in your skilling gear so you're already getting most of the bonus

The snap just pushes it a little further

[heavy moth]

1rst at 2.5K 2 at 624 3rd at 900 7th at 630

[signal osprey]

Decent start for sure

[heavy moth]

maybe next sampling ill focus on severapurple with the news void sample

wasnt that the 90% ?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

95% will be 950/1900/1330 for 2/3/7

Same values for 2/3/8 in orange cauldron

[heavy moth]

next sample ill do it with that minimum

[signal osprey]

Well for the mining ones you can likely get higher on bubble 3

[undone steeple]

look what i just got 😄

[signal osprey]

That ones a click

So is 8 actually but its a much harder one

[heavy moth]

yea at 1300 atm but ill keep pushing it

[gloomy bobcat]

Does Mana PO box reduce time for wormhole cooldown?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[gloomy bobcat]

Seems like that'd be bad at high levels of wormhole

[signal osprey]

Currently I dont think its possible to have overlap on wormhole

[haughty cove]

150 done

they still standin still lol

[signal osprey]

But yeah it might be an issue one day if we get more talent levels

[gloomy bobcat]

Okay awesome

What are good boxes for active? I've got Fight, DMG, Utility, and Mana maxed

[signal osprey]

Drop rate box

[gloomy bobcat]

Oh yeah, didn't think about that one

[azure spindle]

gaming and sailing have damage as the third bonus for boxes as well if you have the boxes to spare

[lavish quiver]

Was trying to just beat wave 120 but got Wave 130 completed with only level 40 poison tower

[pulsar cliff]

With Eldritch Causticolumn, is the max level of meal level 60?

[heavy moth]

i need to find something ot push to 600 XD

[vestal delta]

does "smeltin' erryday" count multikill? or just true kills

[sick sentinel]

afk counts mk

[vestal delta]

ah ok but active doesn't?

[sick sentinel]

i dont think so

could be wrong

[bold quiver]

niceee, poison lvl for wave 130 is around 33-34

[sick sentinel]

i got boss obols on?

[lavish quiver]

Really cause i was doing the guide setup with 37 and it would not work so i went and found a new way to do it

[heavy moth]

yep

[sick sentinel]

hmm

[bold quiver]

yeah i beat at poison 34

[sick sentinel]

stamps?

[lavish quiver]

Nice, even most thing i see online for 130 says a higher poison than 33

[heavy moth]

yea good plan ill try to boost some of that

[lavish quiver]

Do you have towers above 50?

[bold quiver]

need good timing on root skill, its a pain. Also vman boost to canoli dish is very helpful

[bold quiver]

At the time i didnt have atom boost and all my other turrets but poison and party were lvl 3 kkkkkkk

mayb kraken was at lvl 5-6 he was slightly higher

Now i do have all turrets above 50, working on them again now

[lavish quiver]

Root skill would bug it out and keep "zombies" that would push my krakens so this way i didnt have to use root

[bold quiver]

yeah root is a pain to use. Most of the time it screw u more than i thelps

i would say that i was lucky on my root there when i beat it. Even i couldnt believe that i held

[heavy moth]

so close

[bold quiver]

this is a sample im proud of!

perfect 500

[lavish quiver]

@bold quiver #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

this is the guide i saw that says a high poison for 130

[heavy moth]

😦 so little

[little pagoda]

How do I make captains come back so I can send them somewhere different?

oh nvm found it

[bold quiver]

yeah but u have to consider 2 things. 1st he might not have attempted with a lower poison enough to check actual dmg. 2nd, by the time that thing was posted he probably didnt have W5 buffs to cooking, which would allow u to have a higher canolli

But many people beat 130 with lvl 30ish poison already now,

[sick sentinel]

also didnt have atom collider right?

[bold quiver]

probably not, i wasnt playing at that time

[lavish quiver]

weird most people i have seen rec 40+

[sick sentinel]

i think that was around the release of w5

[bold quiver]

i see

[bold quiver]

yahah yeah but most of those recommendations are not actualy min max tested

For example: People will recommend that u have to level frozone, kraken, stormcaller a lot for higher waves, etc

But u can actualy reach that high with those at lvl 1

[lavish quiver]

I think you can get lucky with low poison but usually you will die at the 115-116 wall of mobs

[barren otter]

if that captain is out you can click the trash button and a "return" option will pop up

[bold quiver]

reason being: Not many people went balls deep and tested with low level turrets on those, so it was impossible to know its possible

[bold quiver]

root timing is VERY important

[barren otter]

oh you said you found it

[little pagoda]

Yeah I found it, but came to the conclusion that it isn't worth sending captains to cloud yet

10hrs to get there, way too long

[lavish quiver]

and you have to hope it doesnt bug out the enemies after, cause i had black bar enemies that couldnt die after

[little pagoda]

probably should upgrade speed a bit

[bold quiver]

oh damn i never had that happen on any TD. Is that an IOS /web thing?

[lavish quiver]

No its on steam

[bold quiver]

holy that must be very sad kkkkk

i'd be pissed if it hapened

[haughty cove]

mega doot

[bold quiver]

dont hurt hm

[lavish quiver]

Yea so i root and then after they are "dead" but just push my krakens and then when the reach the end the game goes .. oh they are dead... so it doesnt count the hp loss but they screw up the krakens

[haughty cove]

XD

ok doot done

176

no problem prblems so far

[bold quiver]

@lavish quiver now imm back to leveling this

my shrines are costing almost the same thing as them now, so i'd rather lvl something useful

[haughty cove]

why some of them are golden?

[bold quiver]

lab jewel

[haughty cove]

what its doing?

[bold quiver]

3x build speed i think. Or 4x

then i have maybe 200% from atom collider or more, no idea how that scales

[haughty cove]

wow noice

[signal osprey]

It scales in a way that will make you sad if you know the math

[bold quiver]

i figured tho =/

cuz ever since leveling that i havent felt it actualy boosting my trimmed slots kkkkkkk

[lavish quiver]

Not to focused on that anymore, i just wanted that %afk prayer now ill just upgrade the lowest to get more mastery boosts

[bold quiver]

the feeling of how fast it should actualy be doesnt add

[signal osprey]

It's still decent overall but not nearly as good as you would think just by reading it

[worn trout]

Does this stack? Meaning if I put 10 characters on this style they will each get 10 exp?

[lavish quiver]

What con level are you

[bold quiver]

yep. If i can guess correctly it should be giving me extra normal speed, so its not boosting my 3x actual. like harieph does

[bold quiver]

524

[lavish quiver]

Nice i need to work on level

[tulip kayak]

hey brave, can you give me some advice on what I should be doing right now?

[signal osprey]

Well for starters the lab jewel is actually lying about how much it gives

[tulip kayak]

or anyone else

[gentle furnace]

i need to get last 3 slots lol

[signal osprey]

The 3x speed is actually 200% speed

[bold quiver]

lol

[bold quiver]

wtf kkkkkkkkkkkk

[signal osprey]

Which is fine but the problem is that theres the lab node that increases jewels by 50%

[bold quiver]

dou hate construction??????

[tulip kayak]

whats the gold border

[signal osprey]

And 50% of 200% goes up to 300% which is only 4x speed

[tulip kayak]

is my constructing good?

[signal osprey]

Not the 4.5x it says it gives

[gentle furnace]

trimmed slot, 2 from jewel, 1 from collider

[tulip kayak]

oh ok

[granite grove]

so the jewel is +200-300% instead of x3.0-4.5?

[bold quiver]

looks good

[bold quiver]

sad math

[tulip kayak]

I erm am a bit off

[granite grove]

oh shit

[signal osprey]

Thing is it used to actually be 4.5x

Lava changed it to a % on the atom collider patch

[bold quiver]

opsie

[signal osprey]

And he did so in order to add the % bonus from the atom collider to it

[bold quiver]

boosting speed giving less speed

[signal osprey]

So that why the atom feels bad

[granite grove]

lava needs to fix that, need that cons speed back up

[signal osprey]

Its getting added onto an existing 300% bonus

[haughty cove]

i have some 500mil stacks if i unlock atom does they all decepear?

[tulip kayak]

I dont think so

I think it only does 1bil+ which is the cap anyways

I could be wrong

[bold quiver]

thats why istarted building that early!

[tulip kayak]

yeah I started as soon as I unlocked it

[signal osprey]

And at max the atom gives 300% which gives 600% total

[bold quiver]

Dude one of the things i hate the most is loot not being picked up from boss kills cuz too much loot dropping ffs

[signal osprey]

So trimmed slot get up to 7x speed total at max

[bold quiver]

and i do know that this is just lava being lazy cuz event drops are codded to drop instantly on kill

[gentle furnace]

is this with cons obol cuz my cons level is just 535

[lavish quiver]

@bold quiver Do you just always have %exp directionals or do you have a set of build rate as well you switch to?

[tulip kayak]

can someone give me a good forest soul strat with these

[bold quiver]

oh no, thats a vman speed

If i use obols on squire i can reach now 230M

[granite grove]

just if the jewel is multiplicative with atom bonus

[bold quiver]

idk, there is a limit to how far u can get without voidinator unfortunately

[tulip kayak]

ah I see

[bold quiver]

u would have to power up VERY high to breach that without void

[tulip kayak]

currently a bit stuck xd

[tulip kayak]

I mean my current best is like wave 52

[bold quiver]

slacking! u should have 8 of that

[tulip kayak]

I dont have it unlocked yet xd

[bold quiver]

oh u can get to 80 with boulder alone, thats slacking '.'

[tulip kayak]

oh thanks

[bold quiver]

slacking, should have that unlocked by w4, no reason not to

[tulip kayak]

my boulder is level like 21

[tulip kayak]

bro you remember me

[vagrant mountain]

how did you get to w5

[tulip kayak]

I have an ... interesting profile

idk what you expected from someone like me

[signal osprey]

By killing the troll boss in W4

[bold quiver]

yea but its been a while so it could have been unlocked haha

only need a few blue doesnt it?

[bold quiver]

D= not worth leveling it anymore i guess, since u already have poison

an optimal progression u'd have your boulder by lvl 25 before u got poison

[lavish quiver]

Is there a way to know how high of a %exp cog you can get based off your highest level

[bold quiver]

so when u get poison swap leveling to it instead of bouldr

[vagrant mountain]

when the elephant procs hit a little too hard

[gentle furnace]

you using br directionals?

[signal osprey]

Never use br directionals

[bold quiver]

ofc not kkkkkkkk

[tulip kayak]

im leveling as much as I can xd

[bold quiver]

did uget a better score at w3 TD?

[barren otter]

@bold quiver am i slacking?

[tulip kayak]

w3 I got to 41

[bold quiver]

nicee thats a good one

u could probably get a higher forest i think. Maybe 70

[bold quiver]

juiced turrets!

[tulip kayak]

im trying rn

I need forest souls for armor so

[bold quiver]

true win win

[tulip kayak]

but also I need the w3 souls for w4 tab

[signal osprey]

You should be pretty close to being able to clear 120 glublin for the prayer

[bold quiver]

he can 100% clear gobling with that setup

[gentle furnace]

Wow your lowest is already 3 digit

[bold quiver]

hehehe i did a cog session one afternoon when my squires were lvl 390-400

around that

imma wait until idk, 700? or more before i do another session

[bold quiver]

u can spam click every second with the squires thre, its madness

[gentle furnace]

Ik

[signal osprey]

I need to do more cogs too but it bugs my wrist clicking all that

I havent done cogs in like 200 con levels or something

Maybe more

[bold quiver]

wow what is your player exp then? 4k?

[worn trout]

Do the blessings from the Divinities work even when no one is linked to them?

[barren otter]

my game crashed last week on stage 101

and then i never bothered to go back

[bold quiver]

go baack! that prayer is insane

[barren otter]

i know... i really should

[bold quiver]

dear lord, HOW

[bold quiver]

hmm very good average lvl. Do u remember at what const lvl u did that?

[signal osprey]

500-600

[bold quiver]

when i get to 600 i'll redo a cog spam session then

[pulsar cliff]

Anyone have a 30 second recommendation for W3 dungeon? Haven't cleared the final boss on it, want to get that knocked out of the way.

Like. Do you do tasks until X and then spam bosses?

[bold quiver]

@gentle furnace carried me when we did the achiev, ask him!

[little pagoda]

Are cog stats based on levels or just cog tier?

[signal osprey]

I can kill boss probably 90% of the time and I usually do about 7-8 minutes of tasks and then boss

But you kinda have to feel it out each run and adjust based on how your damage is feeling

[bold quiver]

both

[pulsar cliff]

Thanks Contract.

[signal osprey]

Took me a few runs of trial and error before I started winning

[little pagoda]

Probably should go back to building some cogs soon then

[bold quiver]

higher tier = higher roles (plus diff types of directional cogs) + higher construction lvl = higher stats

[little pagoda]

I did it like a week ago but my levels are quite a bit higher now

[signal osprey]

Now its time to snap some con obols to show all the boys and girls how important they are

That build rate pic up there was naked

[bold quiver]

[twilit goblet]

would this be enough to 120 forest souls?

[bold quiver]

probably 100-110 top

cuz power to 120 beat is the same for 130

[twilit goblet]

i think it died before 110 ytd, just need more poison level then?

[tulip kayak]

im on wave 69 rn

[bold quiver]

yeah, none of the other turrets actualy matter

party kinda does cuz range

[twilit goblet]

ah ill just pump poison and party only then, and use the other slots for first row buildings

[bold quiver]

only later leveling everything becomes very important

[twilit goblet]

later as in for 130? or for other worlds TD

[bold quiver]

yeah keep leveling party + poison until u unlock construction mastery

[bold quiver]

other worlds TD

[twin token]

Does sapphire pyramids give free levels or do they cost salts

[twilit goblet]

ah f, what are the important ones? i was going to use all my charges and max out skilled dimwit, then start moving on to w2 tower

[bold quiver]

But u kinda need them leveled for 2 reason : Atom collider extra dmg buff and cost reduction from kraken+party+thunder

[twilit goblet]

oh right, cant avoid it in the end actually

[signal osprey]

So I got this on a bubo who had the con obols being snapped lol

[bold quiver]

3 most important: Poison + Party . If u have spare slot do kraken. Everything else is not important u can 100% skip until construction mastery+atom collider

[signal osprey]

And thats obols on a DK

[twilit goblet]

alright thanks!

[bold quiver]

damn almost 50% thats insane

[signal osprey]

[bold quiver]

not gonna lie, never thought about snapshoting cons lol

[signal osprey]

It gives more exp too

[bold quiver]

[signal osprey]

Yeah its never explained anywhere in game

But build rate and build speed are not the same thing

[bold quiver]

living and learning

[signal osprey]

Build rate is exactly what you would expect. Its the rate at which you build things

Build speed is a combination of build rate AND con exp boost

[tulip kayak]

wave 70

[signal osprey]

It basically speeds up the entire skill as a whole

And the con obols give build speed not build rate

[bold quiver]

mm i see, makes sense if u put it that way

[signal osprey]

And thats why active DK levels faster than a mage or archer

The carpenter bubble is also build speed

[bold quiver]

dear lord

so are u telling me that BB is worse than BM leveling even with that advantage???????

[barren otter]

so thats why the obols made such a massive diff when i finally finished my set

[bold quiver]

hearing all this is making me want to play DK

[heavy moth]

mhee

[signal osprey]

The thing with BB is he is technically the best character for con gains

[bold quiver]

ohyh so close to double

[hoary light]

so what's a good growth speed to start doing gaming without kitsune active?

[signal osprey]

Because the active character gets less exp for some reason due to sphagetti code

[bold quiver]

dont use kitsune if u have chemical unlocked and want bits

[signal osprey]

So active BB gives you the warrior con bonus while having your BB eat the reduced exp so both of your DK's get full exp

[bold quiver]

Kitsune is good mostly for new tier unlock

[bold quiver]

yeah gonna start doing that tomorrow. No wonder i never understood why my log in DK always were levels behind my second DK e_e Thought it was cog setup thing

[heavy moth]

forgot to change card set XD

[pulsar cliff]

BB is the best 'cause activing him makes DKs level con faster? Did I understand that right lol

[lavish quiver]

So put con obols on BB?

[barren otter]

active BB...

[bold quiver]

dude ! so on point

[hoary light]

yeah I've been thinking of activating kitsune and just letting it sit for weeks, because I have not gotten pretty much a single tier 5/6 plants and it's mad annoying

[twilit goblet]

wait so if i understand it right

[signal osprey]

If you do plan to active on him for some reason yes but keep in mind that BB is not a good active class

I dont recommend it

[twilit goblet]

construc obols on DK makes a huge difference in build speed

[signal osprey]

But its technically the best for con

[heavy moth]

ahaha gotta keep the pace next sample means over 700 mil XD

[bold quiver]

its not worth i guess. If u cant even get t5 confortably it will be a real struggle to t6

[twilit goblet]

and you need to be active on DK

[lavish quiver]

No but when you afk, shouldnt you log into BB first to get the full exp? So would having them on him increase the exp

[signal osprey]

Oh yeah definitely do that

[hoary light]

is there some way to get T5's easier? I didn't think there was any way to boost that. just evo chance?

[signal osprey]

Also if he has con obols you can snap shot them to another class while you active farm

So you dont need to give up DR obols

[barren otter]

i check my construction page way too often for that to work

[signal osprey]

You can check the building

Only the cog page removes the snap

[barren otter]

i check both

[lavish quiver]

So put on con obol go to map then switch back to DR on whoever im activing

[barren otter]

cause i have issues

and click ulti cogs at 10k

on cd

:)

[signal osprey]

Easier way is to have them on an afk character like your bb and then swap from that character to your active character

[lavish quiver]

Oh ok, and just dont look at cog page

[signal osprey]

Although that only works for personal obols. If you want to snap family con obols then yes you need to swap a full con set in and then go to the map and swap it out

The full routine I do is place my DK in a map

[bold quiver]

u made me realize i dont have a family construction obol!

[signal osprey]

Swap to my con obol snapper

Equip a family page of con obols so I snap both

Then swap back to DK

And swap family obols back to DR

Then you have a personal and family page of both con and DR

[pulsar cliff]

Dang

[bold quiver]

cant i just do that without changin characters? '.'

[barren otter]

oh nice even though im active on my bubo it was still a 35% inc snapping con obols

[lavish quiver]

Nice, i need to farm a family page now

[signal osprey]

You can but it requires you to physically replace each obol in your personal and family page rather than just family so its more clicking

Having your con page on an afk character is just for QoL really. You can manually snap personal page if you want

[bold quiver]

so i can snap personal obol construction on another character and switch?

[signal osprey]

Yeah if you have personal obols on someone and then swap from that person to your DK you will retain that bonus from the first characters con obols

So long as you dont change maps or look at the cog page as that will update your build speed to the non obol values

You can still check buildings though

[bold quiver]

true itested it right now. Cool feature

[lavish quiver]

"Feature"

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/mio-mio-chan-nichijou-gif-18659803

[barren otter]

damn its on map change too

[azure spindle]

is gaming snail only actually useful 3 days after getting it?

[bold quiver]

gotcha gonna place it on my BB then

[lavish quiver]

Bloodbone for obol correct?

[signal osprey]

Correct

[bold quiver]

chizoar! yeah call me crazy!

[barren otter]

yea think im just leaving con obols on my BB now

too lazy to do fishing obols anyways

[bold quiver]

its not like we actualy use fishing for anything after a while

[barren otter]

yea its been a while since ive needed any sort of fish

[bold quiver]

every BB future is retiring from fishing and becoming a miner!"

[signal osprey]

And a chef

[bold quiver]

most versatile class in the game.

[barren otter]

mines still super chowing

[bold quiver]

Best fisher, Best cook, Best miner, Best KPH

[signal osprey]

Not the best miner

[bold quiver]

mine has exactly the same sample! - first BB second DK

[signal osprey]

DK and BB have the same mining talents so there shouldnt be a difference like there is with bubo and ES

[opaque sun]

my bb sill prints fishes for the hourly (several hours) bubble clicks

[signal osprey]

Unless you want to get pedantic and argue that DK has a % health family bonus which then gets boosted by the family guy talents for a marginally higher health snap

[bold quiver]

so dk wins :[

[signal osprey]

Yup

[bold quiver]

still, only class that is amazing at 3 different areas!

[signal osprey]

Granted its by such a small margin you'll never notice it

[bold quiver]

2 exclusive areas and is a pro miner

[opaque sun]

Bb is a very good support class, but sucks at outright combat

[bold quiver]

his hands were not meant to kill! even thought he is not only a barbarian but also a blood berserker, which is ironic

[vagrant mountain]

bubo good at chopping lab alchemy

[opaque sun]

Should rename to like Blood Bard

[bold quiver]

lab alchemy doesnt count. dead areas