lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[viscid sandal]

oh derp.. there's where i was missing it lol... I put my omega chips on the wrong character O.o

thanks guys

[ashen marsh]

if I don't have any % multikill percentage for the map, can I still use this for unlocking portals?

[frozen knoll]

yes

still helps with kill rate

[ashen marsh]

there's a prayer that also helps with opening portals right

[frozen knoll]

yup

Blance of pain

err Balance of pain

not good if you get hit hard or cant hit them though

[vagrant mountain]

do you guys filter bronze obols

for obol frag farming

[frozen knoll]

I never do since I break them down

[lapis mesa]

im not to the stage they are a problem

[hexed crescent]

Sounds like a doot problem

[thorn oriole]

at what point should i actually try and start pushing the rift

[lapis mesa]

lmao

[red scarab]

Casual player here. Would like to know as well. But in my case, I won’t be doing rift till I get goat divinity so I can get exp from both lab and altar.

[thorn oriole]

smart.

[lost beacon]

Right as I got to W5 I pushed Rift 1, and then revisited every 2 weeks to push what I could til I unlocked Ruby Cards.

[thorn oriole]

not gonna lie, i havent even strarted divintiy

[red scarab]

Goat God, to me at least, sounds too hard to pass up, it’s also the longest thing. Been here for almost 2 weeks of doing nothing but check ins and daily with one of my char—BB finishing zow.

[modern plaza]

i really need my hit of dopamine plz lava plzzzzz

ya’ll think sailor hat thiccer than winter 🥶 hat?

like 11% afk gains vs +10% drop

[vagrant mountain]

afk gains better for afk and drop better for active

[keen berry]

Is the max book level from library level 245?

[burnt burrow]

so who u guy opting to link with for the minor link bonus?

an do the minor link bonuses stack?

[crisp silo]

some do

[burnt burrow]

and does king doot make minor link bonus active for only link bonus?

[crisp silo]

everything

except cat god

[burnt burrow]

fair enough

so doot makes them get bonuses and the minor ones

thaks for confirming

[sharp wind]

Cat need to be use even if i have doot?

[fallen jacinth]

do we have any PO guide ?

[sharp wind]

Get what you need

[fallen jacinth]

uhm so if i want to active on bubo

beside the alch box

[sharp wind]

Mana

The yellow one i forget the name

[fallen jacinth]

huh why mana

for more damage ?

do i need the %cash box

[sharp wind]

Damage + 10%cooldown reduction

[sharp wind]

If you need cash sure

[fallen jacinth]

oh i didn't know that mana box has cd in it

[crisp silo]

cause if lava made cat active on all, it would have a 10x div multi and stuff
sail speed would technically be 10x the minor link

[fallen jacinth]

also the what is the break point for drop rate to affect cash

[crisp silo]

so he turned it off

[fallen jacinth]

like 7 and then 9 ?

[crisp silo]

all odds

[sharp wind]

And get all damage box after all that

[fallen jacinth]

so should i use %money or %drop rate for cash

[sharp wind]

Civil war, death storage, sailing, gaming po for damage

[crisp silo]

you want crystal chance PO box for active bubo

[fallen jacinth]

oh okay

so it's alch > crystal box > mana ?

[sharp wind]

👍

[fallen jacinth]

okay then how about the droprate vs %money

which is better

[sharp wind]

Drop rate since that is the box that have crystal monster chance as well

[fallen jacinth]

no i meant like key chains, card, etc

[sharp wind]

ohh if you need cash then go cash

if you need portal go damage

up to what you need

[fallen jacinth]

i thought droprate also affect cash

so idk which to choose

[sharp wind]

It is but cash is more effective of course for cash

[fallen jacinth]

oh

anyway thanks for helping me

[sharp wind]

if you looking for money, go cash and if you dont have anymore cash equip or card put some drop rate there

[lavish grotto]

what liquid (first cauldron) per hour do you guys have? need to see how far I am from the pinnacle of alchemy

[weary hinge]

mines 19. lab node is always active, bubo will be your primary source of liquids anyway

[lavish grotto]

is that cranium in a colluseum?

to get everything you need

[weary hinge]

nope, i dont think it works

i do cranium at w5 wurms now

[lavish quiver]

I am not pinnacle but Im at 22

[lavish grotto]

alr thank you guys I have a good idea of my alchemy stuff now

[vagrant mountain]

how do you get 4th slot?

[ashen marsh]

if I lvl this up. Do I have to replace the shrines again?

[fresh plank]

Should I have a carry captain in sailing or evenly upgrade them? :0

[weary hinge]

i dont think you can, not sure

[weary hinge]

captains automatically upgrade per trips in sailing, just keep em sailing

[fresh plank]

Oh I mean boats

[weary hinge]

prioritize the boats 1-4, the gold ones, then those would be your island pushers, then upgrade the rest bit by bit

[fresh plank]

Oh, by trading for gold bars, right?

[gaunt shale]

you cant, as of currently

[weary hinge]

yep thats it

[fresh plank]

Oke tenk

[barren otter]

[vocal rose]

rift - Trap Box Vacuum. so it happens automatically.

likely at a time when your BM does not have the cards set. [until you unlock skill mastery.] and does it use the food? (even if you equip the food.)
so that's ~50% of your gains lost, right? what's up with this?

do you have the choice to turn it off?

[cyan magnet]

so im not tryna do all that crafting for this merit task on world 1, so...
if i craft 8 different items (enough for the second quest) but im on the first quest, will it say i completed the first and the second quest? or do i have to do one quest at a time

[modern plaza]

u need to have the food equiped, prayers on, and hunter talent maxed up (the eagle eye)

it's silly if you ask me lol

[weary hinge]

you cant. but the moment you have the reset, the active character will "get" your critters

[weary hinge]

one at a time

[cyan magnet]

ty

[vocal rose]

wait. the ACTIVE character?!?!?!?!??!?!

do they go to the inventory of the active character or do they go to storage?
& is the collection based on the cards and food equipped on the active character or the BM? (y'know, the only one who should ever be collecting. because they're the only one that'll bring the big gains.?)

.
i'm about to go to bed. a 5-day trap cycle will complete in 2 hours. reset is right after that.
i need those critters. and it looks like i'm about to lose 1/2 of a 5-day cycle?!

and what if you have your BM doing fighting, in fighting preset, when daily reset occurs. they wont even have EE leveled. so you'll lose a TON of critter gain.

[hexed crescent]

Do you have doot?

If you don't, you're loosing days of progress every day, so don't sweat it

[vocal rose]

no. and i only just unlocked rift 6 late tonight.

what?

[vocal rose]

what?

so players who are at this stage of progression, just suddenly lose a huge % of critter gains, and have no control over this supposed QoL feature?

the automation arm has something similar for anvil. but it isnt optimal to use. so you just turn it off.

[sharp jacinth]

Yeah the auto traps just aren't great

[vocal rose]

yeah, really.
have people brought this up?

[sharp jacinth]

Yep

[vocal rose]

like, this is awful.

[hexed crescent]

Welcome to Idleon. There will probably be a fix to this in a couple of months.. or years

[vocal rose]

yeah, i see a complaint in Player suggestions from back in May.

[lavish quiver]

Couldnt you just time it a bit away from the reset and grab them manually before it does it?

[vocal rose]

that is not okay. that's awful development. it's not as if he doesnt know how this works.

[lavish quiver]

Never said that its great, its a suggestion to the problem that isnt fixed

[vocal rose]

(that last statement was not a response to what you said. it was a general statement.)

what? no. certainly not tonight. and most of the time, .... i cant... that's even worse. i'd need to time my whole entire day just right to get the timing lined up. and daily reset changes every day by a few minutes.

[crisp silo]

or you just have BM be a lab slave, and the first log

at least that is what i do

[vocal rose]

and then i sacrifice my active DK gains for the entire night. great.

[crisp silo]

oh if u talkin about that

u gotta login for auto trap to take effect, like swap char

cause i have constant overdue traps

[lapis mesa]

alrighty then.. Vman is absurd

[vocal rose]

so if you're logged out, it counts the first character to log-in as the one collecting? ... so then i need to set a sub-optimal lab setup on BM before bed, so those gains are lost.
& i lose construction gains, because logging back to DK has a higher buuild rate listed.

[tranquil radish]

There's samples in the millions

[lapis mesa]

oh i know.. i saw one earlier.. but im a newb 😄

[crisp silo]

i think

[tranquil radish]

get level 120 Alchemy...

[crisp silo]

cause i run royal 40hr traps

[vocal rose]

and either way, it restricts player freedom to just...do what you need to do, now. this is nuts.

[tranquil radish]

that or... you got a huge boost with VMan and just no longer worry about it at all since it's automated.
More gains + QoL vs slightly off perfection.
Meh 😛

[crisp silo]

honetly this is why ppl just let nblb hit critters and other non printable items

[vocal rose]

and what about those players caught in that period of weeks when they have not yet unlocked Vman? that does happen. i only unlocked it today.

[vocal rose]

explain, please.

[lavish quiver]

Instead of collecting critters to level up bubbles that need them they let NBLB level them up instead

[steady token]

wait, you can have 4 slots in water?

[vocal rose]

(thought that's what you might have meant.)
yyyyyyyyeah, not really helpful. that might be somewhat helpful for some bubbles. (it doesnt affect bubbles over #15)
but i need critters for other things. like making traps. etc. and vials.

[lavish quiver]

Yea vials is the main thing to collect for at that point and a upgrade in the atoms allows it to go above #15 for nblb

[steady token]

how? can you put a pic or something

I mean water not cauldron

[tranquil radish]

you still keep on growing and getting more and more over time. WAY more than the slight perfection would add you.
Also it would invest a lot of time and energy whereas he implemented things like being able to place all traps from your hunter, with it's efficiency instead of your other characters, etc.
Overall there's just way more you gained than the small loss for yet another QoL

[vocal rose]

okay, that may be helpful eventually. but i'm still royally screwed, now. i dont even have atom online yet. and i have reasons why i need to slow down before a push into W5. so it could be months before i have that.

[tranquil radish]

a lot of active time on your BuBo

[steady token]

??wdym

[vocal rose]

slight perfection? it's anywhere from 50% to about 90%.

[fathom lagoon]

4th slot not available they’re trollin lol

[vocal rose]

"Also it would invest a lot of time and energy whereas he implemented things like being able to place all traps from your hunter"
^ what does this mean? the point is that with this auto-collect, you are not collecting on your hunter/BM, with their collection spec. you may have set it, but your shiny change is getting tanked.

[tranquil radish]

I'm only at 105 myself yet I've seen several screenshots of it in endgame-chat
No idea then m8

[tranquil radish]

base critters and xp is from placement.
A lot of your shiny chance comes from the passive cards and vials etc.
Yes, you lose "some" yet I don't think it's THAT much that you lose.
It's not perfect code by any means yet overall you gain much more than you lose.
Either way I'm done arguing about this.
Enjoy the game.

[vocal rose]

oh right. i forgot. you'd also need to make sure your Jman is set to gains spec, to boost the collection. (well, ...actually, that might get snapshotted when you set them. not certain.)

[crisp silo]

ok so, some bubbles cost critters/anvil items/souls/salts, you will not be able to keep up with the demand of like 30M of each, hell 1M critters is already pain.
Hence we let no bubble left behind take care of that, how you may ask.
Simple, if the current set of bubbles being hit by nblb cost mob mats/ores/logs/fish, we will upgrade it manually.
Repeat until nblb only hits the critter/anvil/soul/salts bubbles
We do this, because all the mom mats/ores/logs/fish can be printed in large quantities

[vocal rose]

"passive cards" which ones?

[tranquil radish]

I have the luxury of owning 2 VMen, so I have all talents active all the time.
If you only have 1, you have to make choices, indeed.

[crisp silo]

uhh if both skilling, dosent it bug out the rank 1 talent buffs

[vocal rose]

yes. yes you do. because most people have 1. (assuming it's not a player that didnt know about the "secret" class, which is absolutely essential.)

[crisp silo]

many others, its a rift thing to convert cards into passive

[tranquil radish]

once you reach Rift 21 and like 300 total level over all characters on trapping

[vocal rose]

that is extra management, but i get what you're saying.
it'll help with bubbles. still need lots of critters for other things.

[tranquil radish]

only the highest of the 2 in a certain skill counts. so you max a talent on one character and leave it at 0 for the other

[vocal rose]

right. i was aware of that rift perk. except i do not have it yet. many players can easily be in the same situation for a while.
even if it'll be ok in a year, it's not okay for the weeks or more that it disrupts your gains.

[hexed crescent]

For crying out loud.. The critters you're missing isn't stopping you from progressing. You just let it take a while and focus on other things.

[tranquil radish]

I get 20m frogs every 40hours. gains will always increase over time because there's just soooo many ways to increase all your gains in this game.
Whatever 'loss' you're experiencing right now, you'll more than soon enough catch up on it.

[vocal rose]

right. ... what if you dont have that? it is very possible for a player to simply not be at that point of progression.

[tranquil radish]

Then you shouldn't be focussing on that yet...
Means you're playing out of your league

[lavish quiver]

What is critters limiting you on? Cause i dont remember them stopping me and i hardly focused on them since i hate that skill

[opaque sun]

if you want to manual micro manage the shiny claiming of each individual traps, go ahead

[tranquil radish]

You can place all 20min traps or so xD

[crisp silo]

wait hold up if u need M of critters, your dmg should be decently high for passive cards

critters should not reallly be a prob until maybe you wanna build your first royal trap

[tranquil radish]

bottom line is he's being whiny 'cuz Lava doesn't code up to his perfectionist standards.
Which, to be fair, he is correct.
Yet there's ample compensation elsewhere and there's nothing he can do really so just s* it up, be thankful for all the other things that are amazing and keep carrying on.

[crisp silo]

lava and perfect never go together

[hexed crescent]

Still though, if we're gonna bitch about Lava, we should go back to focusing on Companions

[crisp silo]

we went through the purge for that i dont want again

[tranquil radish]

He should've just have made them have way smaller buffs. Like Doot allowing all your characters to link to 1 extra divinity

[buoyant valley]

does doot double up on god links or it doesnt matter what god you linked to because its only 1 instance of stats?

[gaunt shale]

does not matter, you are linked to all gods at all time, no double bonuses

[buoyant valley]

aight

[crisp silo]

we cant double link so its only 1 instance

[sweet mirage]

even the minor link bonuses?

damn that's p2w :I

[gaunt shale]

tell me man, 120€ in and no doot

[tranquil radish]

200 pulls is guaranteed doot iirc

[hot bison]

What would be better afk here or go to moltis again and active there

[tranquil radish]

5k/hr is really low and not worth it imo.
Check if there's other ways you can improve. Up your afk gains(only 69%?), pots for movement speed, alchemy bubbles with more KpK, prayer for extra portal kills, things like that

[hot bison]

I could do pots but it would make my dmg go down

[tranquil radish]

one for grilled cheese and one for kebabs. all the food-damage you need really

also if you're not multi-killing. You're probably not gaining too many afk gains from extra damage

[buoyant valley]

super p2w >.>

[tranquil radish]

lucky you 🙂 gz

[gaunt shale]

lucky and i hate you

[tranquil radish]

You just basically doubled all your gains

[buoyant valley]

i set my expectations at sheepie

that seemed more obtainable

[hot bison]

My speed is alr 174 with no pots

[tranquil radish]

same

[crisp silo]

sheepies is v good

[buoyant valley]

all big bubbles would honestly be so much better

[tranquil radish]

Basically I just hope not to get a duplicate pet each time...

[gaunt shale]

you have 6x print for every character, boosting atom production like crazy, which is a crazy boost to bubbles

[crisp silo]

dont forget doot gives 100%~ afk gain

[gaunt shale]

every day I have no doot, i feel like I am wasting my life away

[buoyant valley]

the 3d printer procs from afk claim has been massive

[gaunt shale]

[buoyant valley]

gotta redo my samples some time, now

[crisp silo]

not only bigger prints, but more often print

[tranquil radish]

you can already 6x print without doot. It's just always active on all characters on top of everything else. and the +30% afk gain and also all the %afk gains from goat which is basically another 30% and more damage and kills and skilling and ...
It's 'easily' double 🙂

[gaunt shale]

I can 6x print on my 2 ES, yeah, thats still 8 characters that dont

[tranquil radish]

Doesn't mean you can't make gains or progress without doot though.
Just enjoy the game

[crisp silo]

we enjoy the time without doot

and we grind

for when we get doot, we stronk

[buoyant valley]

i went from about 7.5b dmg to 11b just from doot helping

in 1-2 days

[crisp silo]

you could get that

[hexed crescent]

PETITION TO REMOVE DOOT FROM GAME AND RESET EVERYONE WHO HAS IT COMPLETELY

[crisp silo]

from a sailing arti

[buoyant valley]

hoping that others are able to get doot, honestly

[gaunt shale]

https://i.imgur.com/faZhOiu.png

its just sheeps, and beans, and moltis and even more god damn beans

[floral torrent]

One sheep

[west slate]

@gaunt shale make bean soup

[buoyant valley]

big reason i didnt spend for it, no matter how tempting it was. even if pity is 200

[floral torrent]

what are the chances to get one before pity 💀

[harsh star]

I got for 2 friends doot, i got it in end treat in 9 pulls sec. One with end treat on 91 pulls and the third in end treat with 21 pulls so i dont See a big issue to obtain him if u can spend a few Pennys but for F2P Players its hard i agree.

[buoyant valley]

rotation isnt set in stone, and we dont know if doot will be rotated out, or how rotations will work

[gaunt shale]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml# 78%

[floral torrent]

☠️☠️☠️☠️

I do not trust 78%

[gaunt shale]

well, my experince has been quite different, but thats gacha stuff for you

[buoyant valley]

1:120 at t5 doesnt sound too terrible, honestly

i understand the cost

[gaunt shale]

if you ignore that each pull costs over 2$, eh

sure

[dapper prism]

I never really double checked on this, but does this Family Talent make my family bonus affect everyone by more?
If my ES is level 457 (+10.5 Levels) and I have this at 308 based on wiki (+13.68) will everyone gain those extra 3 talents or just my ES?
https://i.imgur.com/IstRrwt.png

[lavish quiver]

I believe its just your ES, i just did a small test my BB stats didnt change but my ES all went up by 1

[dapper prism]

For me im just confused because sometimes i upgrade it, change UI and don't see a difference (going from like 0 pts to 300) which should be an easy 2-3 lvls

unless it's shared between both talent presets like tab 3 vial. Or shared between ES's ?

[lavish quiver]

Does the same for me but when i change map it then updates it seems

[dapper prism]

I did change map, and also changed between chars and back plus talent preset 🤷

[lavish quiver]

Guess you could do math of everything that gives levels and see if it adds up correctly

[dapper prism]

Been jumping between ES testing both presets, at least on one of the ES there's a level difference now

oh something went up now, so guess it just took a few mins to display, even after switching chars

finally went from 307 to 309

[lavish quiver]

Yea has a bit of a delay it seems

[dapper prism]

Pretty long delay xD

Just trying to max out the WIS talents + family+15th so i can max out tab 1 wis soon xD

If i grind out level 457 to 476 on my ES I'd get another talent point 👀

[lavish quiver]

Sitting at 430 for me atm, been on DK to much for them keys

[dapper prism]

same

ES was such nice xp when i got to w5, then bubo was like 10x better, and now DK overtook both in no time.

[lavish quiver]

Yea my DK at 490 and now im like well might as well try to hit 500

[dapper prism]

Yeh, mine got to 502 in no time, i do run crystal+active xp cards though

Wondering how long my ES will take from for those 19 levels

[lavish quiver]

I feel everyone will feel slow compare to bubo and dk

[mystic mountain]

TIL cranium cooking affects all cauldrons

i feel so stupid

[dapper prism]

yes, including water. But not sigils

[mystic mountain]

i thought it was only water haha

i just finished unlocking all my bubbles and just came to this realization

[lavish quiver]

Ooof

[mystic mountain]

it's okay, i just got fury relic the other day, so i just setup my bubo to farm oranges for a little while

still gotta get my boosts done

[lavish quiver]

I just finished a thing as well

[mystic mountain]

nice

[lavish quiver]

Not a fan of breeding tbh

[mystic mountain]

i haven't even finished any of the sections yet

what's your shiny count looking like

[lavish quiver]

64/64

shiny is a 100% for most of them cause of so many sources of boosts

[mystic mountain]

my breeding is slacking, but it's just enough to get my spices

sitting at 9036T cooking speed

[lavish quiver]

Got the arena bonuses yet?

[mystic mountain]

yeah

finished that up and beat wurm

took a couple hours, but it wasn't so bad

cooking gains were huge

[lavish quiver]

Nice yea its good boosts, Do you have Vman?

[mystic mountain]

yeah

just slacking on levels though haha

[dapper prism]

vman gets op with total meal lvls, boost everything slow

[lavish quiver]

Yea cooking speed goes brrr

[mystic mountain]

yeah i have bone marrow at 126/126 just need to book it again

working on purpling my plates atm

but i'm too lazy to setup my vman for another speedrun

when would it be worth to start going for superchow kills?

[lavish quiver]

Worth is a hard thing to determine being subjective. I waited until 2-3m kph at least

[mystic mountain]

i got some work to do then

[lavish quiver]

Unless you have a lot of candy you dont care for burning

[mystic mountain]

nah i'm just starting to stock up my candies right now

but i guess having my bb finish chowing w5 is a start

[opaque sun]

if you not getting like 3m-5m/hr kills on gmush, might be too fast to start doing them

[tacit tulip]

So I'm levelling up my classes for the sake of divine scarf, doing my second BB at the moment to speed up mega chows

Discovered that if I use 2x respawn chains he can't clear the wurm map before they start resoawning, so he never runs out if mobs to hit

That was a surprise, usually a vman issue

[opaque sun]

double scarf effect and double respawn keychain basically give uwu to any class

[tacit tulip]

Shame I have neither of those chips yet 😦

[sweet mirage]

respawn is better than afk gains?

[tacit tulip]

oh, nvm lmao

[lavish quiver]

Oh i need that one thanks

[opaque sun]

respawn rate is basically another pool of afk gain multiplier. And for active obviously afk gain does nothing while respawn may help on classes without a respawn mechanic

[sharp wind]

almost ruby still no drop

[tacit tulip]

Kills are hard to compare because MK/KPK don't count towards the drop

use royal urns instead, you can expect 1 recipe on average every 1k urns

[sharp wind]

[lavish quiver]

xD your making up for my luck, remember he said "on average" so for anyone that got it within 200 someone has to go to 1800

[crisp silo]

oh boy am i glad that magma glovges are a problem for future me

[tacit tulip]

3k more and you'll be in my position 🙂

[lavish quiver]

wait do you not have it after that many?

[barren otter]

i got mine at 1400 urns

[urban ridge]

we're all screwed

[lavish quiver]

WOW

[crisp silo]

see guys, this is a prob for future ver of yourself, enjoy now

[sharp wind]

wow, im still lucky compared to you

[lavish quiver]

Im so glad i didnt have to go through that

[barren otter]

[sharp wind]

lets hope we get it this day

[tacit tulip]

My gameplan currently is to equip guys with the divine scarf, then they go to suggma jail

[sharp wind]

tired of seeing this lava slug

[barren otter]

did you slap all 10 on suggmas?

[sharp wind]

if only i have enough damage for my vman to make div scarf

[sharp wind]

9 now

[tacit tulip]

You know what would help with that? Magma gloves. Get those first 😛

[barren otter]

you mean kattle gloves

😉

[sharp wind]

yeah the only thing that blocking me making that only this stupid magma

[lavish quiver]

Would you be mad that i got it by putting my ES on slugs for 1 night?

[sharp wind]

https://tenor.com/view/rajang-strong-boi-angry-monster-hunter-world-gif-17902277

[tacit tulip]

This is why you keep some pods in your slinger available, to escape 😄

[sharp wind]

that hunter is him @lavish quiver

[lost depot]

Is there an ideal % success chance you should aim for before gambling here?

[lavish quiver]

Most people say you dont need to encourage until lvl 9-10

[urban ridge]

that answer lies within

[lost depot]

Thats a big cojones mindset

[lavish quiver]

You have about a ~2% chance atm to fully reset

[lost depot]

thx

[teal lynx]

I never really got into Dungeons. But i finally need for those Passive Stats and Emperor Opals. Is there a Meta Class for Dungeons? Last time i played was Mman before Elite Classes existed

[lavish quiver]

I like DK

[azure spindle]

honestly any of them with a bunch of aoe work well if you have the dungeon stats to use the abilities

[teal lynx]

Thanks guys. Crit + Multihit or whatever still the way to go?

[lost depot]

As you start to max out your dungeon stats your class matters less, but until then DK should be the best

[azure spindle]

pretty much

[teal lynx]

[lost depot]

Drop rate is king

[azure spindle]

I swear there's a drop rate number in dungeons that gives you less drops with a higher number

[tiny forum]

Is volcano key base material type of drop?
Or rare material drop??

Im thinking if i should use ES or DK on farming those..

[pulsar cliff]

I believe DK has been metting out as better per hour. Those mobs at high ends of portals have absurd HP.

[lavish quiver]

Dk you can get his orb to 800-900

[tacit tulip]

yeah apart from endgamers you can't get wurms to high enougn portal count to beat DK currently

so DK wins out in keys/hour

in theory once we have world 6 and people get stronger ES would be best for keys again

[prisma drift]

Even my bubo does better than my ES

[tacit tulip]

but then we'll see the same issue with w6 mobs

[tranquil surge]

is there any point in buying dubloons after getting the 100k achievement?

besides an extra green stack

[tight ridge]

should i buy this

is it better than this one

[pulsar cliff]

Hands down

[opal flint]

Can anyone tell me how I can tell how many treasure chests I can store at my pier?

[pulsar cliff]

That number changes depending on Merit Shop, Gem Shop, and probably an artifact? I can't remember on that last one.

Short answer? Turn off the siege breaker ability and see when the number goes green lol.

[opal flint]

Where can I find this number

[pulsar cliff]

That's mine.

[opal flint]

Oh so I wont be able to tell unless I hit the cap....thats kinda lame 😮

TY for your response and info!

[pulsar cliff]

There may be another way but that's certainly the simplest.

No worries!

[opal flint]

[tight ridge]

this quest does work with kill per kill thats vile

[pulsar cliff]

So really, I recommend just doing that quest AFK.

It counts multikill, just NOT active multikill.

[pastel bramble]

finally completed all artifacts the last one took so long to get

[pulsar cliff]

Such an amazing feeling right? I don't have to check every 4 hours anymore

[pastel bramble]

u do u need resource for alchemy

and leveling ur boats 😄

[tight ridge]

i was pushin portal and just saw it didnt complete i thought i would get it done same time since they were the same count

[pastel bramble]

cause if he releases artifacts with w6 and u dont have boat speed needed ur gonna feel dumb

[pulsar cliff]

You underestimate the threshold it takes to make me feel dumb.

I just turned on the siege breaker ability now.

[pastel bramble]

siege breaker ability is fine for resources 😄

the math on wiki says its 17% better over same 24hrs

[prisma drift]

I also stopped at 25

It’s a nice number

[pulsar cliff]

Ye

[hollow trellis]

Hey, i finally made it to w5 and have all my chars on Divinity. What Class should i use to push through w5 afk?

[white sphinx]

does chemical have a 5th evo?

[tacit tulip]

One of the big three is wise: bubo, DK, ES

es is probably in it's skilling build to further your divinity and bubo only pops off once you're stronger than the content

Would pick DK, personally

[crisp silo]

afk DK

damn

[pulsar cliff]

Out of curiosity, you have all your characters on div, why would you AFK on DK? Or is active not really an option

[tacit tulip]

Possibly struggling to active cause no lab

[thin rose]

simple answer

DK goated

[pulsar cliff]

Didn't think about that, fair enough

[prisma furnace]

Is it best to just wait for max evo on plants in gaming?

[thin rose]

you should active gaming and just click everything that pops up like wack a mole

[prisma furnace]

Is that the best gain of bits?

[bold quiver]

DK is one with the divine

[thin rose]

I didnt take he'd take that seriously

[bold quiver]

not max evo cuz it takes too long, but the highest tier u can confortably get

[thin rose]

^

I just claim my plants once every 8 hours

also make sure you claim them on dk

[prisma furnace]

Fair enough, then my hunch was correct. I just unlocked the 5th evo, which takes quite a bit of time. But I'm guessing its still worth waiting to just have them unlocked

[bold quiver]

its good for the slight bonus exp, but for bits its the same on everyone haha

[bold quiver]

What u can do is divide your board, if u have a 20 slot u can do like 10 for evo 10 to keep trying to get chemicals/claiming

or 15/5

its ineficient to wait for an evo with your whole board, cuz no chemical chains hah

[prisma furnace]

I was more or less just leaving a few behind, in hopes that they get their last evo. And then gaining bits and XP from the rest, but the last evo is really making me wait 😂 So I started doubting

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkkk yeah if u are weak it will take too long to get T5 evo

[thin rose]

Also cause DK the goat

[bold quiver]

T6 is 10x worse

[prisma furnace]

Lovely

^^

[thin rose]

My advice is

get doot

[bold quiver]

What i did for T5 was. Getting 1 of each plant on left or right side crunched together, and then kept playing on the other side

[thin rose]

free progression

[bold quiver]

not free cuz u still need brains to do stuff kkkkkkkkk

[prisma furnace]

Yeah I guess, but I am not really going to go that route

[thin rose]

??

[bold quiver]

i played 9 omniphau +1 purme pfor a while, its very good

[prisma furnace]

If I get Doot from the free companions, then fair enough. Otherwise, meh

[thin rose]

Didn't know you need brains for free bonuses

makes sense

[bold quiver]

empty bonuses if u dont know how to setup/upgrade your areas

[zinc torrent]

Guys I got a question I just got to world 5 and I don't know how to get more divinity exp

[thin rose]

Well they're not empty

they're still bonuses

:')

I was reffering to omni for gaming afk time

[bold quiver]

cooking/alchemy/stamps

[thin rose]

gem shop

[bold quiver]

omni OP. PLay 9 omni 1 purmep if u dont have doot! its the best for a long time

[zinc torrent]

🙏👍

[thin rose]

also don't forget blessings

[kind epoch]

so I had a 21%/19% double arti captain turn up

which of these do I replace

still relatively early sailing

[bold quiver]

i wouldnt use double arti, but if u want to sub anyone it would be someone without sailing speed

[random saddle]

When will next update come?

[zealous niche]

#💖future-content-blog has most of the info people know about upcoming updates

Check in there

[thin rose]

when gta 6 releases

[ocean fox]

Is there a reason I have so many alternate aprticle upgrades?

[mystic mountain]

do you have purrmep unlocked?

[ocean fox]

Yes

[pulsar cliff]

I thought 10 was kinda default.

[mystic mountain]

achievement

+10

[ocean fox]

Ohhhh
I see, ty

Just unlocked him today makes sense

[atomic atlas]

how get a lot of xp in breeding ?

[mystic mountain]

there’s not much besides your bm talent, stamps, cooking iirc

cooking is probably your best bet if you can push it

there’s also the breeding xp gain upgrade if you don’t have any upgrades selected in the breeding ui

[twilit goblet]

if going for sampling size is this the box to max after skill box ? already have 90% sample

[white sphinx]

finally

[fluid pasture]

Hey should i be farming dice obols then pop obols? Or pop obols then dice obols

[pliant arch]

My nugget still stucks at 3k 😂

[frigid acorn]

you got chocochip ?

[tacit osprey]

dice are easier and worth more

[tacit tulip]

EZ trivialises pops, so if you don't have choco it's usually faster to do pops first now

If you have choco DK for dice should be fatser

[pulsar cliff]

My nugget went from 25,088 --> 25,190 today (:

[bold quiver]

hmmmmm i see

im getting this bubble to atom range in a few days!

cuz i got every other bubble above 15 higher than this, so NBLB is only gonna work on that hohoho

[pulsar cliff]

Veeeery nice.

[bold quiver]

i did the same with the multikill bubble on yellow side

[pulsar cliff]

I JUST got that one into atom range yesterday.

[brittle dagger]

How to tell if a boat of mine will make minimum travel time

[mystic mountain]

use IE

[brittle dagger]

I am

[mystic mountain]

oh

[brittle dagger]

Like for example if the distance is 100k, does my boat speed have to also be 100k?

[mystic mountain]

yeah

[brittle dagger]

okay thats what I thought, i just couldnt find it anywhere and didnt want to recall one of my boats to check lol

[pure spindle]

Wait what

[brittle dagger]

thanks lol

[mystic mountain]

all good

[pure spindle]

The distance is only one way not both?

Ig that does make sense idk how i havent noticed

[random lake]

if you bring a bosses health down to 1% with like 5 dr, but then kill him off with 13 dr, does it count for the 13?
im asking because it takes forever to kill off cattlekruk nightmare

[mystic mountain]

yeah

[mystic mountain]

i believe you can??? I'm not 100% sure because i know DR is one of those things that isn't snapshotted when you go in

[random lake]

thats important

[wary girder]

when you unlock no more praying from gaming is it best to literally just have 0 prayers on?

[thin rose]

No

It's pretty much useless

[pulsar cliff]

I mean this as gently as possible, but you may not be ready to be farming NM Kattle if you're trying to stance dance your drop rate.

[wary girder]

wow really ok, cheers

[mystic mountain]

it's only useful if you're lazy to look at curses and decide which ones to take

but if you're on this disc, that's usually not the case haha

[thin rose]

prayers are just too important, especially royal sampler

you lose out on alot of output

[wary girder]

ye well atm i pretty much have all chars on skilled dimwit/balance of precision except my maestro

[mystic mountain]

it should stay that way, makes vman skilling easier to balance

[wary girder]

ye really been neglecting all my chars atm while i sit on div until goat

failed my 50% chance yesty

pissed lol

[golden gust]

Yeah im omw to 1k div and its slow

[pulsar cliff]

I just spammed 1% unless a 100% popped.

[golden gust]

Im like 700 atm

[wary girder]

i heard this was the play too

[mystic mountain]

i've been doing that

[golden gust]

Just get luckier and hit it on a 1%

[mystic mountain]

it makes it less annoying tbh

i've had that happen to me while I was rolling for a 100% lol

[wary girder]

i hit 2nd/3rd god on first two 1%

[golden gust]

I got majority of mine on 10% chances tbh

[wary girder]

so i guess this is just rng catching back up to me

[toxic kraken]

How many hours to afk pincerman to get splice gun? Have 5.0 DR

[golden gust]

So while pushing to worms should i do nobisect or harriep on people that have decent samples?

[bold quiver]

do u need atoms for something?

[paper sail]

You were given an incorrect answer. The speed shown on your boat is for 1 hour of travel time. The distance of an island is round trip.

If your minimum travel distance is 2 hours, that would mean a 50k speed boat can reach a 100k island in that minimum 2 hours.

[golden gust]

Id like atoms yes as im pretty much just starting to farm them. I just finished logging and mining vials completely.

Starting on rank 12/13 fishing vials and halfway through rank 13 catching vials

[bold quiver]

nobisect then imo

But u have to ask yourself.
Why are u pushing to worms? What do u expect to get when u reach worms? Is it worth it right now?

[golden gust]

Well maybe its better to generalize im pushing w5 as a whole on everyone now.

Most dont even have moles yet cus i paused to do backtrack to div/lab

[bold quiver]

When i pushed everyone to lampars i had artic

[golden gust]

I could also push with everyone with bear but trying to finish 80 div on everyone in lab at least for now. Since most are mid 70s

[bold quiver]

Then i stopped and only finished pushing to wurms on everyone but bubo (had done before) after w5 boss release

[mystic mountain]

my bad I thought he was talking about the 2hrs dist value on IE

[bold quiver]

seems like a plan

[zinc torrent]

feels good I got bunny god with 1% chance , no more luck in future

[bold quiver]

not bunny! its a hare

[zinc torrent]

xD

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-angry-mad-evil-gif-14682313

[zinc torrent]

damn 21k for 50% chance for goat god rip

[bold quiver]

damn

[golden gust]

Also i want to lvl everyone quicker to 300/350 ish but i dont know whats best for my account other than swapping back go activing bubo shortly for money and alchemy.

Everything is longer grinds now

[bold quiver]

Yeah, i cant tell. Ive hardly played active bubo, i dont rly see the point besides doing it for something very specific

[golden gust]

Well im pretty money capped so i need more kitchens and more stamps.

[bold quiver]

Like, my liquid ended today so i filled it up again, gonna have a few days off bubo.
Also money, i always farm money as if in tiers, so until i get more greenmushroom kills there isnt any point to farm money since most of my stamps are "capped" by it

would take me hour of grinding just to get 1 upgrade

thats how ive been playing bubo haha

[golden gust]

Yeah maybe ill figure out gmush kills are my issues

But my alchemy is probably bad unless nblb has carried me to OKAY levels

[bold quiver]

for money its gmush kills all the time. If u dont get that up u wont progress heavily on money

as long as u have your siege breakers there farming eternaly u will be fine

[bold quiver]

hashaha gotta use bubo to carry all your bubble to your printing level

at least the skilling material ones. Monster mats require u to use daily discount stamps

[golden gust]

Gmush kills farming will really start soon sb pushing w5 for lvls currentlt

Then gmush farming until w6

[bold quiver]

need to get 3k family lvl

[golden gust]

Im close

2800 or so

[bold quiver]

niceee

Its easier to finish that if u lvl up 2 DK and bubo at OJ bay up to lvl 340-350

thats what i did

so i didnt have to get everyone else past 280ish

[golden gust]

Yeah i just want the damage boost at each 50 which is why im aiming all 300 or 350

[livid raft]

How long does it take to unlock all Sigils? then master..?

[golden gust]

Cus its rather large i think from vm

[bold quiver]

lifetime?

cuz the requirement is ridiculous

[livid raft]

That's what it feels like lol. Unlocking the faster sigil charge one now.. and still 11~ days to go

[bold quiver]

oh i didnt remember that it existed lol, thanks

[golden gust]

Yeah for my bb it was really large % total gains to damage

[bold quiver]

nice. Dont know what i did to get this but gg

[golden gust]

All red skulls somewhere

Those achieves only pop up once you read your deathnote page

Not when you complete

[bold quiver]

i dont have all skulls 100M tho , no idea why it got completed

[golden gust]

Hmm odd

Could you have had them with maestro at some point?

[bold quiver]

oh no way

before VMAN i hadnt even pushed w5 properly had everyone but bubo sitting at lampars as max map

[golden gust]

Okay just checking cus it hurt some people a lot

[bold quiver]

yeah i saw that D:

it was for a good cause fortunately, vman is very strong

[tacit tulip]

It probably calculates it on "total bonus"

100m = 10%

13 mobs in w5, 130% for the achievement

you have 132% on account of the eclipse skulls being worth so much, so it popped

#lavacode

[bold quiver]

OP

that explains it

[hollow trellis]

And whats the best for Active pushing through W5?

[tacit tulip]

for AFK most classes are equal, I only suggested those three as they'll be your most useful in the long run, might as well work on those now

If you absolutely care about gains tied to afk, SB is probably the best

[hollow trellis]

Okay 🙂 thank you very much

[tacit tulip]

as your kills will progress the forge, too

[pulsar heart]

why do u have that many maccie kills LOL

[bold quiver]

1B deeathnote

[pulsar heart]

but why start with maccies o.o

[bold quiver]

first mob kph sucked so i skipped

no real reason

[pulsar heart]

oh makes sense

[bold quiver]

not that much lower tho, but i was like meh

[fluid pasture]

Nope, will be a million years until i ever come across one

I mean just with about 1 day of farming giant frogs i have my full family obols with at least all 3% bronze pops

[bold quiver]

choco chip is hardcore, i've been claiming 7 chips everyweek for almost 2 months.... no choco

[hardy bloom]

why must you make me suffer

[hardy bloom]

im not sure abt this but there are some months that certain chips only appear at that time

[golden gust]

Nah just like 4 monthes left until one

[fluid pasture]

eh wha- fr?!?!

[hardy bloom]

choco chip is the crystal mob one right?

[sharp wind]

Do that rift with the left platform

Do every es wormhole rift at left platform

[hardy bloom]

which one, the smallest one?

[sharp wind]

here

[narrow torrent]

Isn't there a Google excel file with all the future chip shops?

[sharp wind]

w3-w4 pins

[hardy bloom]

thanks, ill try iut

[hardy bloom]

Thank you very much

[sharp wind]

[pure spindle]

Your weapon makes doot look so odd lol

Bro has a mini skull

[placid mural]

I wonder if the portal score drop off for es is worth having the class exp prayer on that increases mob health

[tall notch]

And so the 400 hour grind for 12m gmush kills on mman begins, meh

Kinda wanna spend some candy on it

[hardy bloom]

candies work on it right

why not use candies

[tall notch]

Yeah

[tall notch]

Im a hoarder, cant bring myself to use them lol

But i do have a few mega candies i might use

[hardy bloom]

IFY brother

hahahaha

[tall notch]

Last time i got 350 hours off one

[hardy bloom]

although i used a lot of blue candies for gmush and clogs for W5 boots

[hidden sphinx]

I hope we get a way to trade up candies

It’s way to easy to get blue candies, more than you can sanely use

[tall notch]

Lemme check my idle skilling then its spending time lol

[hardy bloom]

yeah, like use 2 blue to get 1 red, and so on

but if that happens i think i might run out of candies

[hidden sphinx]

How often does anyone really use candies anyway

They’re only really useful for skilling levels, gene splicing and gmush kills

[heavy moth]

trophy looking gooood

[hardy bloom]

my dr is low so i have problems getting rare items like clogs in a short time

and i dont wanna farm it with many charas, and then make them carry it/ put it in storage

since i also have low storage space

when i crafted my lava boots rn, it took me like 75-100+ blue candies

to get 8 clogs

[placid mural]

Currently I've been using the chonky ones as I get them to do eclipse death note kills

[long sun]

Which class is best to push in w5?

[tacit tulip]

Probably DK

Bubo needs to oneshot with poison to go fast, which you probably can't do

ES is strong but portal mobs do t progress maps

The rest suck at pushing

[tall notch]

Okeoke first mega candy lets ser

9d 7hr

Damn

13 bolt cutters oke

14 hrs and 8 hrs from the other 2

[hollow trellis]

What cards should i use if i push with my Bubo in w5 ? 1m-3m dmg, 23k Accuarcy, 1800Def

[tall notch]

Welp at least i gotbit done, with a bunch of gene spirals to my name

Now to do all 1m kills w1-3

Fun

[warm beacon]

before you do give him some speed pots

[bleak pelican]

Anyone know what could cause a sudden getting 10x+ less bits? Not kitsune.

[warm beacon]

Ehhh the dk skill maybe?

[bleak pelican]

Ah yep thats it, thanks

[tall notch]

I did put on all the speed pots, thanks

Do wormhole kills count for deaty note?

[fathom lagoon]

Damn no update on that beta yet huh

[delicate thistle]

how many tiers are there for each plant?

[fathom lagoon]

I think up to 6?

[safe harness]

wiki said 8

[delicate thistle]

8 damn...

[sick sentinel]

Realistically can get t6 rn

7 is one of the superbits

[teal lynx]

For now u can only get 4 of each plant! So do not try to get more

U need that 4th tab to get more evos (aka lvl 40)

[delicate thistle]

ohhh

[teal lynx]

That plant evo in the top left corner gives +1 evo as stated above

[delicate thistle]

hmm i see, i will go for 1 more fungus/bonsai evo and thats it then

[teal lynx]

How effective is this? Should i use some atoms on this to get to Snail faster? I 'only' need 600B Bits (I do not have a high enough Sample to click this every few hours)

[worldly hollow]

stonks

[tacit tulip]

it shows up in the logbook directly I think, seems to be pretty good

[teal lynx]

Hmm. I am 44.2, could you tell me your Bubble level?

[safe harness]

do silver money obals reroll higher than 6%?

[worldly hollow]

kind of diminishing returns lol

[teal lynx]

.7 for 12 levels. Would probably be better to get the Ancient Bit Sailing Artifact

Eldritch*

[tacit tulip]

been trying to eldritch the last one for over a month now

[teal lynx]

Need Eldritch on both. Got Ancient and Eldritch Fury in 100 Chests. And then got no Ancients for Weeks

[worldly hollow]

idk what it is about the skull lance but the animation looks a lot cleaner than previous weapons

[tacit tulip]

It has a higher attack speed so probs just looks a little smoother

[worldly hollow]

thats prolly what it is

[fathom lagoon]

Question if anyone knows, is mining faster afk or active?

[tacit tulip]

You basically never wanna skill actively

[fathom lagoon]

Ok bet thank you friend

[worldly hollow]

everything is "better" actively depending on your afk gains

[tacit tulip]

active skilling can't drop any of the extra stuff (statues, cards, stamps etc)

[fathom lagoon]

Ah good to know

[worldly hollow]

ive gotten cards from active iirc

[tacit tulip]

you generally wanna afk for levels, then print for the actual mats

[fathom lagoon]

Mining some void w my vman, trying to get him to lvl 50 so I can lvl up my squires to sample some void lol

Trying as hard as possible to always keep him above everyone else skill wise haha

[tacit tulip]

Another good reason to make use of printing, can't outlevel your vman

[fathom lagoon]

Yup that’s what I basically did up til now but now I’m starting to need higher quality materials so gotta lvl up my chars’ skills again

To get to them (atleast for mining)

[worldly hollow]

that tenteyecle tho

[fathom lagoon]

I need fury baaaad

[worldly hollow]

i got ancient a couple days ago and just got the library achieve a few mins ago as well

209 on raise dead is nice lol basically reviving an entire map after one aa

[spare sigil]

We should collect our pet egg in which rarity?

[tacit tulip]

I use grey eggs for DNA/setting up some breedable pets

[fading dust]

You trying to get exp only?

[tacit tulip]

then usually go gold/plat for actually trying to unlock

[spare sigil]

If im aiming for exp, should i go for rarer eggs?

[paper sail]

Last I heard, spamming basic eggs is better exp than waiting

[fathom lagoon]

Nah trying to get the ore lol

[paper sail]

AFK should win over the long run, thanks to Double EXP Chance

Especially on a Vman with no Big Pick like the warriors

[fathom lagoon]

Yeah imma just leave homie afking while I work

That’s what I figured

Since no active skill

[bold quiver]

huge

[worldly hollow]

if we could trade lol

[bold quiver]

0,2 all skill exp! op

[fathom lagoon]

Ooooof let me just hold 50k of them

Just need me a full set of void gear for everyone

And then chiz here I come

[worldly hollow]

i need to check the slab and see what i can easily make. ive been slacking

[glad crow]

whats the best chip layout for gmush?

[bold quiver]

this is the best

[paper sail]

Doubling a keychain instead of 2nd card, so you'd need a keychain with more AFK gains than your Boop card

[bold quiver]

mob respawn keychain

[paper sail]

Or that

[glad crow]

keychains is the new 20% mob respawn

[bold quiver]

buy while there is time, dont miss on this

[paper sail]

Not everyone bought those

[glad crow]

those is BiS

[bold quiver]

Indeed, i just showed the best chip layout. Considering u have all possible bonuses haha

[tacit tulip]

Man I wish I had the neck doubler

That must be insane with scarf

[bold quiver]

it is !

[tacit tulip]

Next one isn't until November

[bold quiver]

gotta start gambling on chips

im still hoping for a second choco chip

[glad crow]

i got too many choco chips

[bold quiver]

just want 2 so i can keep 1 permanently on bubo and 1 on DK

[paper sail]

I'm so close to a 2nd full set of doublers. I would love to not have to visit lab between every character swap

[bold quiver]

niceee. i just need 10 set of doublers lol

[opaque sun]

blue gems are basically farmable, so dont be shy to gem shop those chips

[fervent brook]

The new Vman skills really helped getting him to highest worhip level.

[tacit tulip]

The problem is keeping him there

Prior to rift you'd stack negative exp modifiers on ES and it was trivial to keep him behind

Now rift gives permanent exp modifiers you either don't ever suck juice from the other 8 or you accept he's gonna overtake

[bold quiver]

u farm some keys then u farm some chizoars than BAM

[tacit tulip]

I've just decided to live with it

[bold quiver]

I dont see how it would be good keeping vman as 1st on worship tho. After worship 75 there isnt any good reason to keep doing it on everyone, so u just soul siphon on wizard for brutal soul gain

[tacit tulip]

you mostly used to do it for the Eff% from hands. Eff has a small buff to souls gained but isn't major

[paper sail]

Why willingly give up all the Eff from Right Hand? That helps souls too, yknow

[bold quiver]

its not even small. its beyond neglegible

[tacit tulip]

mostly cause it's tiny gains, it's not like the gathering skills which give large boosts

[bold quiver]

without hand i have 1400M EFF, with hand i dont even get to 1401

[tacit tulip]

You lose more souls by not sucking the juice from the other 8, by a wide margin

[paper sail]

Just worship on Vman, then steal from the others 🤷

[tacit tulip]

Yeah, and ES overtakes them

[steady token]

I never use siphon after I have mman

[bold quiver]

why would u do that. Thats the point lol

[paper sail]

It is quite easy to keep Vman ahead

[bold quiver]

u worship on everyone until 75 and stop completely. Just worship on ES

there isnt any justifiable reason to keep worshiping on anyone, even vman

[paper sail]

I disagree but to each their own

[bold quiver]

so tell me, what do u get?

[paper sail]

Souls.

[bold quiver]

cuz u are not getting efficiency with right hand

[paper sail]

and critters too, technically

[tacit tulip]

that buff applies to ES too btw

[raven fog]

How did u fsrm keys

[fervent brook]

You need Enhancement Eclipse to keep Vmann ahead.

[raven fog]

Guys i am now in full time job and university so good bye free time

[tacit tulip]

as you get more and more of these it becomes harder and harder to keep ES ahead without intentionally wasting charge 😦

[bold quiver]

good bye

[raven fog]

How do u farm keys from PO?

[tacit tulip]

W4 Mats sometimes give colo tickets

Colo tickets with DK in w3 generate keys

Keys for chizoar gems

[fervent brook]

I do hope lava adds W1, W2, and W3 keys to those mobs eventauly.

[bold quiver]

thats called colloseum '.'

[bold quiver]

lol thanks i forgot that this existed

[sweet temple]

not me fighting kattlekruk for like an hour now lol

[mint remnant]

what's the best place to farm Instablab Followers specifically with a bubo?

[orchid rapids]

going to cry tears of joy

[buoyant valley]

do you do party dungeon?

[sweet temple]

every once in a while

[steady token]

👀 using lustre gears on es

[buoyant valley]

grab this, its a huge upgrade

and really easy to obtain

[sweet temple]

yeah i might even have 10k saved up atm

[buoyant valley]

worth on all chars, honestly

[sweet temple]

yeah i got 2 of them on other toons

[tacit tulip]

Man I thought getting vman to 425 was bad

BB is torture

[pulsar heart]

how do people get such high liquid regen rate

[sweet temple]

dunno mine are half that lol

11, 12, 13

[pulsar heart]

ive seen ppl with 70+

[versed cypress]

without the lab node its not hard to get the regens to those levels

[pulsar heart]

must have like lvl 200/300 regen on each cauldron

[versed cypress]

you basicaly farm with the lab node using bubo CC and thenjust dump it every time into the regen

untill the node regen is like 50 and when you take it off it just goes to massive

[pulsar heart]

i get like 240k secs per cc and it takes forever to level the regen

[versed cypress]

what level are your cauldrons at??

[pulsar heart]

not that high

[versed cypress]

you still use less than a full cauldron to get the level so you are still in the easy part of it

but yeah regen actualy levels up quite slowly

and with the node active its i think 75% less

so yeah

[fathom lagoon]

This cost flurbo points? How much?

[modern agate]

Any tips on how to do nightmare kattle on Vman?

[tacit tulip]

20b+ damage. Punch stuff

Particularly moles,

Punch them until aoe is up, aoe to kill screen

Then punch kattle

Repeat until done. 20b will take you 25-30 mins, the more damage you have the less time it takesb

[twin token]

So what should i do with div

I just got omni

[noble mesa]

Noice

[twin token]

I dunno if I should keep everyone on gohart or put some people on omni

[buoyant valley]

dont forget weekly happy hour with dungeon prayer active

[fading cape]

and dungeon cards

the extra flurbo ones can really add up

[gentle furnace]

That depends whether you want to push lab and div levels

[twin token]

Yeah I still wanna be able to hit the last node while having 2 or 3 chars out

Is that unreasonable for 7 charachter lab with all nodes except greenstack and liquid?

[tacit tulip]

There's a 6 man setup that misses two nodes you might like

[fathom lagoon]

[gentle furnace]

You only need 6 to light up almost everything

[tacit tulip]

Assuming you can reach it

[true obsidian]

good job lava...

[fathom lagoon]

I know a 0 man setup

[gentle furnace]

Tried closing afk info and reopening?

[tacit tulip]

No you don't

[true obsidian]

i tried

[gentle furnace]

Sus

[tacit tulip]

Usually means the last mob you hit is a crystal mob, messes with the multikill thing?

Could also just be lava math

[true obsidian]

nope, i just upgrade my gear and so back into that

[green eagle]

just got my snail to level 10 😮‍💨

[pure spindle]

I still need snail lol

Only get 100-200m green bit per collect how can i get that high?

Can share idleon eff if it helps

[pulsar heart]

just gotta get all the gaming boosts u can

[tacit tulip]

Stamp (for levels)
Bubble
Cooking
Artifacts
Slab

That's all gaming really is

[green eagle]

sakori took my words out of my mouth

[pulsar heart]

all bosses drop gems right

is the 1key/boss the best way to farm gems

[pure spindle]

True say

Maybe ill go work on slab

[true obsidian]

let's goooooooooooo!!!!

[coral goblet]

any tips on what i could focus / push for to get my DV enough dmg to 1 shot mobs so i can hit this next rift level? beating these will let me get eldritch artifacts so its huge and i wanna push for it

https://milkshanky.idleonefficiency.com

i know alchemy and stamps is huge, but more so which i should focus at my point to get the dmg to clear the rift

[stuck elbow]

i've lost track of how many days ive leveled this mfer

encourage*

[unreal forum]

My snail luck is crazy but my golden nugget luck sucks

[elfin idol]

you could finish buying anvil points with mats

[coral goblet]

im almost done green stacking w1-4 and then after that gonna finish off anvil points

[lavish cloak]

doot acquired. now what.

[stuck elbow]

damn you yolo pretty hard bro, what % do u attempt to level at

[unreal forum]

Been trying to get around 20 but really have just been rolling the dice. Now I’m super scared of reset

[stuck elbow]

jesus

[green eagle]

have these, should i use them all to see if i pop a t6? lol

[green eagle]

you coast, the game has ascended itself into a realm of imagination

[lavish cloak]

changing some divinity trances around so i can get god ranks up a touch, then resample. i forget what else matters

[green eagle]

i haven't even touched divinity since i got doot, am i supposed to? lmao i resampled immediately however

like do god links matter anymore after doot? should i have people linked to something? i figured with them all active it doesn't matter

[lavish cloak]

just trying to make sure i take care of everything i possibly could want to do inside a lab before leaving that fucking place FOH EBBAH

skill leveling. that's what

[modern agate]

@tacit tulip thanks for the tips...I have 32b damage right now so just gotta active the crap out of it

[sweet temple]

2 hours in and almost there lol

[lavish cloak]

may i recommend waiting on more attempts for damage?

[sweet temple]

haha yeah, that would probably be a good idea

[rustic garnet]

lots of save scumming?

Does anyone have a killroy guide for most skulls? Is it time or %?

[signal osprey]

Time

[rustic garnet]

the 1% boost is tiny?

[worldly hollow]

Does cranium cooking overflow on water? I've already procced it 3 times this morning since active (1 hr 15 mins ;D)

[rustic garnet]

overflow in what sense?

[worldly hollow]

Like does it keep stacking? Instead of the 300 or so water will it keep going up?

Or does it stop after a point?

[rustic garnet]

if your cap is 300, you will stop at 300

[bold quiver]

o.o

[worldly hollow]

Oooo ok cool. Cap is almost 2400 so I'm good lol

1300 on second cauldron lol

[civic wave]

What level should all my toons be before I forget them on the altar

[green eagle]

ayyyy bic boi t6 shroom finally

[rustic garnet]

You should sit everyone on the alter to at least a specific level, check the pin

[brisk bane]

What's the best class for W1 Dungeon ?

[thin rose]

DK

[bold quiver]

family lvl 3000

[rustic garnet]

Ercaron, DK or VMan

VMAN's got some fun interaction in the dungeon

[civic wave]

I know how long they should sit there but is there a specific level for them I should focus first e.g 100/120/150

[brisk bane]

And why not ES with all the abilities it has?

[civic wave]

Lordy

[bold quiver]

its a waste of time trying to grind all the way to tranqi stance if u dont have a ton of divinity exp

[thin rose]

DK just solos honestly

[rustic garnet]

char level or div level?

[bold quiver]

better stuff to do

[civic wave]

Character

[rustic garnet]

not related

[civic wave]

Sorry I'm not good at words lol

Oh okay

[rustic garnet]

if you're in W5 with a char, sit them on the alter according to the guide

[echo crag]

if only div could give breeding exp as well by sitting on the altar XD

[thin rose]

Just don't completely starve your characters

[brisk bane]

Solos third or fourth frog?

[bold quiver]

skip guide levels its not good

[civic wave]

Wdym by this?

[thin rose]

Meant more of its clearly abilities

[bold quiver]

have a big waste of time in there

unless u dont care about speed progression, then its fine

[thin rose]

Like just don't leave a character completely in the dust like when I got lab I got one of my characters to level 60 in lab and he was sitting at LVL 60 and everyone else was 150+

[rustic garnet]

I think pushing div max asap is 'efficient'

[bold quiver]

and thats why u are not a speedrunner

[rustic garnet]

(according to the guide)

[thin rose]

It's useful to get most of the gods first yeah

[bold quiver]

[brisk bane]

ohh okay, i'll go with dk then, thanks man!

[rustic garnet]

speedrunner lol ok w/e

you want bear so you can sit in lab and get div

[civic wave]

Ahh heard, thanks much for the help

[ancient mirage]

me waiting for the next patch so i can make some new progress be like:

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-gif-23395435

[thin rose]

You mean goat

[rustic garnet]

I don't know how you could perceive the idea that 'speedrunning' without a reason is the best

[rustic garnet]

sorry goat, yes

[bold quiver]

U get bear > Get Goat > Move everyone to lab (no matter their divinity lvl) get everyone to lab lvl 40-50, remove goat from everyone and use bear until u get family lvl 3000

get back to divinity once your characters can get more than 200-300exp per hour

[rustic garnet]

That's what the guide says, basically...

[signal osprey]

Nah thats outdated

[rustic garnet]

did you read the guide in the pin?

[signal osprey]

Just get doot

[rustic garnet]

lolllll

[signal osprey]

🤷‍♂️

[bold quiver]

its indendent of dvinity level

[rustic garnet]

yeah sorry my bad

doot doot win win

[bold quiver]

guide asks u to grind specific mantras, that doesnt exist

[next locust]

So get what 100x div exp multi before returning to altar...?

[rustic garnet]

sure they exist

[bold quiver]

its a waste of time grinding for mantras

[rustic garnet]

?

Grinding mantras is how you get div to level the gods

[bold quiver]

and advance in the game at a slowpoke pace

2 birds 1 ston

[rustic garnet]

you haven't suggested a real way that differs from the guide

The guide focuses on bear, then goat

read it, it's actually good

it's why it was pinned

[bold quiver]

when does the guide tell u to stop using goat?

[signal osprey]

You sit on the 4 div/1 exp stance until goat rather than doing manta/vitalic

[rustic garnet]

did you read it?

[signal osprey]

That way you get goat faster

[bold quiver]

yeah 4/1 exp is better

[rustic garnet]

That's exactly what it says!

the guide says 'stay on focus till you unlock the core gods'

[bold quiver]

48 is not bad nice

[stuck elbow]

pussied out and spent almost 2 weeks worth of mail before upgrading lol

slow and steady though i suppose

[rustic garnet]

Don't worry, you can hit level 23 like the guy above

easy 😉

[mystic mountain]

better than rushing it and having nothing lol

[stuck elbow]

yeah no rush in gaming anyways. nothing much to gain as far as bonuses

[bold quiver]

assuming he didnt cheat lol

[civic wave]

Okay my Bubo generates 3 worship exp an hour and my Es generates 2 and my blood berserker generates 1. Is there any rhyme or reason to this?

[rustic garnet]

The guy at level 23? I have made an assumption already

[mystic mountain]

wisdom?

[bold quiver]

yeah haha

[mystic mountain]

it's either that or they have different efficiencies

[civic wave]

Well they are all level one with level one efficiency so gotta be wisdom I guess. Weird that bubo exceeds the es. With how slow the progress is I wonder if it's worth an account wide respec for wisdom

[mystic mountain]

lab will progress at its own pace

it picks up once you invest into the later world mechanics

but everyone has to deal with that first couple of weeks of doing nothing

[stuck elbow]

goddamn dude whats your dps?

[bold quiver]

its the 2nd tab skill exp bonus

its not wisdom

[granite grove]

all w4 skill doesnt scale with str/agi/wis stat iirc, only base efficiency stats and %s