#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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yea but it feels so boring to see +1% on it
486
That is also a lie of rounding
If I got a +1 proc at 500, you can get it at 486
LMAO
just let it happen
๐คฐ It's this meme, but grumblo innit
Is bubo better than ES for Flom gold twine?
1h at floms with ES, 13x DR, 500b dmg, No twine yet.
pregnant male grumblo
so
lava went off the deep end

Hey that's on you buddy for assuming that grumblo is male
Sailing: what's the deal with getting the Ancient version of artifacts?
just keep looting that island til it drops? are you better-off waiting until later, when you have some other bonuses to increase the chances?
am i need to go to jail for it?
Getting same artifact 2nd time = ancient.
not my fault
Well that's on lava too
Some ancients you want to get pretty soon/early, like island 1 tusk since its + artifact chance
lmao ok bud
Still may be better to push a bit more first to get more boats etc. like don't camp at w1, except for base tusk
People that unironically call other people woke are the most fun people
i feel offended
so put more of my boats back on island 1, for now? and just wait til it happens? [even though they have the speed to be on other islands.]
i demand to talk to the manager
Imagine thinking "buddy" is a gendered phrase
wat
Might wanna get with the times friendo
does it matter at all who you're linked with after unlocking doot?
oookay
wish i had the experience to know 
Unsubstantiated claims that you need at least 1 purrmep for the minor bonus to work, but equally had people saying it was still there for them without a real link to it
getting some artifacts the 1st time - didnt seem to take super-long.
getting ancient version - much harder.
you sure the chance is the same?
eldritch artifact chance goes down after every island
great thanks
like normal
Also ancients
and sailing level
Depends on a lot more then just chest
Initially even fury ancient is like 0.01%
There's no way that artifact find chance is based on the amount of that type of artifact you have
Well maybe not a lot but theres a few more factors
Like, there's no way he made it so that finding alll the artifacts on island 1 reduces your fury chance
i havent gotten any artifact since ky first day in w5 where i unlocked like 5 total and 2 ancients
Noone said it was
wat?
May be doing sailing like completely wrong then?
150 attempts for troll cape and still nothing...kattle cape is never gonna drop...๐
so I got these golden foods by doing picnic questline. Is this the best source for gold foods or you know a better
one?
After revision this comment was better to cephyric
Idk i log in like once anday
Waow 1 clog down, 40 to go
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Is Bubo better than ES for Flom Gold Twine grind?
Doubtful since Twine is a base drop
i just candy on SB
candies are the best for it haha
It'll be faster on es
do you have dr prayer on?
just have more twine
Why do you have 40
Others were saying like 12-15 twine a night on bubo with like 5-7x dr with less than a bil dmg.
I'm here with 13x DR and 500b dmg and still none after over an hour ๐ฆ
I never used them when I was farming w4 bubop
There was no way I was gonna wait for active farming twine, I candied what I needed for helmets months ago
same
so I just had a big pile of them
just toss on 1h candies or mathed out guarantee?
Clogs are not too bad, but pushing it at 1 in 160k. Absolutely no way I was waiting for 1 in 1m
oh shit shiny pets,
I think I burned through the 12h candies I had at the time
should I make full kattle for my vman or what parts or just keep magma?
Helm and boots, one would assume
well might aswell wait
Time for nightmare Kattle! I hate this already
Bet!
bet
why not go for w5 gloves?
23b ๐
Because fuck my luck
lmfao fair
hmm okay ty
Just get magma knuck recipe innit, not that hard
Fuck me really not the time for that drop...
you know nightmare kattle has 1000t hp right?
and every add that spawns
heals him right
i did 1 hr candies and just splyced what i didnt get
have 56m suggma kills and have te reciepe grinded with like 12.69x dr
How many of those are MK though
Or KPK
many of them are mk xD
Neither of which count towards the drop
sakori finished teh vial for suggmas and still didnt get the gloves lol
its a long ride
i was so lucky with the recipe
F to him
on sb for forge stuff?
I was pretty lucky with them
thats how i did it, im sure vman is fine for the reroll too
People have done kattle on vman with 30b damage. Probably was an awful fight, but they did it
thats like
ok my ES has only 51.5m kills and I would say over half is 100% mk xD
23 feels like it's pushing it though
over 1h fight or soemthing
Nah they said it was like 30mins
since you rely on the vman skill to kill all the adds
and you ahve like 15 sec of boss dmg
I had a 15 minutes nightmare fight with my bb...
and hope you did more dmg tot eh boss then the adds will heal before next void
without the buff I think I would had a way longer fight
xD
You know you can punch the adds, right?
yeah you can focus mobs and not let them hit the boss
It's not just punch the boss and pray you out damage the healls (which wont happen)
then when aoe goes off hit the boss
meh
Ya, you get leeway with void, and whip has a much lower cooldown
sounds like a 1h fight
someone said tehy did it in 40 min with ~20B
thats impressive
of course thats out of someone else's mouth
but i woudlt xD
No one's pretending it's not a painful fight, but "just get an extra 150b damage" isn't the best advice 
Especially on vman
well
kinda is tho
maybe not 15b
150b
and if they are at that point of the game
the question is
The costing range damage is 200b
is there any special requirement to evolve? it just not evolving to 4th stage for 3 days in a row
if you wanna farm it

We're not farming nkattle on vman lol
It's for the merit to get the scarf recipe, only need to do it once
trophy
pls give t6 its already a month of just in game progress stuff D:
Nah, trophy on 10 characters is like "I have nothing ellse to do" sorta stretch goals
what else would you do?
Realistically you only need 3. 4 at a push if you happen to use SB a fair amount
if youre at that stage of the game
when its openeing 6th evolution?
They're not at that stage of the game, what gave you the idea they were
?
thats what i said
if they have 23b dmg on their vman
they have more important stuff to do
then nighrmare kattlrkruk
The people doing kattle on vman at 30b damage are not looking to get trophy on 10 characters lmao
i saw only 4 possible evolution for plants in guides, but i guess they are a bit outdated
They're looking to kill it once so they can unlock scarf
you can unlock 3 more evolutions with superbits
oh, ty
the ones that say plant evo
the top left one is t5, the bottom left one t6 and about t7 no one wants to talk.
yea we aint getting that annytime soon
ye
I think there are ppl close to lvl 25 snail
I saw at least one with 23 like a week ago
do Family Guy bonuses snapshot at the highest level?
Only affects that character, so doesn't mean a lot if it does snapshot or not
Stat chains, damage wings might help
hmm good point on the damage wings, I should prolly be using DR ones on my active ES
https://i.gyazo.com/02ac2821a44a231c40d223dd759f2572.png
Anyone have an estimate on how many hampsters an hour this should be?
aight gimme a min ๐
More than 1 is probably a safe bet
family is active only, and only applies to bonus of that guyโs class. So a BMโs family guy raises skill efficiency for BM only when he is active. When afk it doesnt do anything
despite the name, its a self buffing talent
Eyeballing my guestimate would be 14ish
all dmg cards?
ye, big ones doubled
dmg star signs?
yep, doubled
Just need more alchemy by the looks of it
chains doubled?
Don't have the doubler
You have stat chains tho?
Magma armour might be more damage tbh
does cookin roadkill bubble have a hard cap?
wow
xD
took me 4 weeks for steak
? xD
4 weeks for last one for me
pretty sure it does, it slows down as you level it
its lvl 343 rn with 100% as the stat atm
I have no idea where the fuck my luck is for sailing and gaming. Still sat waiting for chemical too, been waiting for that since like a month after w5 came out
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
Which one would be best to focus on?
where i should farm i reached mole in world 5 but i think attack lower mobs would be better any advise thx
You pushed to moles with 52m damage? ๐
What is that gear
Absolutely nothing in world 5 is going to be good for that low damage to farm, even floms is probably not great
Cans maybe
what do you recommend then
perfect
Do not worry about anything in world 5 except the 2 skills, go back to the other worlds and progress your account there
Put that weapon in the bin is the first step
Those stats all scream "I rushed world 5"
Mans rocking them rex rings on mobs
w5 give more exp rest of my account is afk so
I mean, that is the advice that 99% of people give
Thats fine though
The weapon is fine, probably the only thing of his gear except for the chiz stuff that is
Probably a better pendant as well
wow my account is that bad ๐ฆ
definitely needs scarf atleast tho
At that point (green) chiz blanket seems reachable
Yeah chiz is the armor before W5? So it's not that bad
Aint no one worth their salt telling people to rush to w5 and ignore everything else
Wait? Maybe I'm wrong
no luck to get it ๐ฆ
Chiz - troll - magma
troll
I never used troll, I didn't think it was better than chiz
its not that hard
???
% all stat
It is and you need it for magma
no luck for me so
So... it doesnt get paplied to all charatchers, just themselves? or their classes
my drop rate is trash
Yeah it tracks that you think troll isn't good armour since you were telling him to get rid of his weapon 
Hmmm yeah before W5 damage was still better than stat%? I think? For me anyway
That account isn't remotely ready for the wonderful world of spiked fists on bubo
Genuine bubo advice just not with that damage
The only reason you use fists/spear with bubo is so that it gets close enough to mobs to trigger aura after you switch builds with 3s tent. His account is definitely not close to doing that
If youre going afk stay in w5
Well if you want levels then yeah afk w5
I never said it wasn't good? I just said i didn't use it because I thought chiz was better when I was in W4?
my goal right now
No, absolutely do not afk in world 5. You'll get better exp from w4 zones
wut
not really
Cant tell if youre being serious, imma assume not
He has 50m max damage, I don't understand any of you people lmao
W5 mobs give a lot more xp
^^
The 4k mobs he kills per hour sure are gonna love the better exp huh
@forest hinge mind doing me a favor and take a ss at first w5 mob and last w4 mob
The afk gains screen
ceph are you being genuinely serious?
Ty
i had much less then 50 mill dmg in world 5 when i started and the afk exp was leaps and bounds better then w4
not even close yea
Maybe I didn't pay attention to afk exp ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Seems like it, its kinda crazy how much it skyrockets
for active you maybe right for me atleast
clown emoji is a bit much gibby
Lol
Aint no way you're clown emoji-ing over here mr "chiz is better than troll"
Mr "start by throwing your weapon in the trash" 
W4 mobs better than W5 for xp...
Cant it both be ๐คก?
what weapon is bad?
If he can't make a better weapon, what do you think the answer to that is?
Honestly forgot where on the progress bar that thing even is
Same tbh but I can't imagine it's that good for W5
Bro's over here using a rex ring for damage, seems like he doesn't have much crafting-wise
before diabolical
Not helping a lot here bud
D:
Just get 800 nullo, nps ezpz
Oh no oops
does this work? I dont see a increase in my cooking speed after getting the kills with or without skillpoints
am I missing something
Thats not terrible then
And 15k squishy sould, and 3k starfire
1st weapon when you unlock w4 anvil
i just got 2 ๐ฎ
finally
was worth the wait
the 140 bosses was the worth the wait for this too
I mean...
its not that hard
Id have more but i spend all on magma armor, or troll idk which one of the 2 took my salts
Aint no way you're about to sit here and say he should be able to get 800 nullo no probs
troll did
So im void salt broke rn
spammed all my stamps, seems I'm not too far off now
i have full magma on everyone.
whyyyy?
gaming
Calm down chad
Not everyone is that far lol (yes i see the irony)
magma is better on vman O.o
ah wait that's the old screenshot
It's only 70 keys, can't hurt to give it a try
Yeah...if I had any keys left ๐
Worst case you waste 15mins figuring out whether you can outpace the heals
Whack out the DK for a bit
thats not enough damage, cause your wearing kattle not magma
xD
was able to do it easily at 120b +
You have your yellow bubble 1 at like over 1k at least right Sakori?
people were able to do it in 10-20 minutes with 60b
Gotta get farming that thread yo
yeah just need a couple more days of 90% discount
Not gonna pretend I didn't also ignore it for too long, but so close
is that without lab or with lab?
Without lab puts it in the 90s, waiting for the reset for the reduction tag thingies
the yellow bubbles not exactly huge cause it's not effected by all stats
ah
but gains are gains
ive been working on mine too
+1k luck is +1k luck whether it is affected by multipliers or not
Have you booked your vman luck ability to 245 also?
The tab 4 one
yeah, all damage books on vman are 245
Some big base luck in that
245 cooking talent is gonna be so godsend
But yeah might wanna borrow magma from another character real quick and see if the % stats (minus the base luck from gear) boosts you up
With 11k luck magma should be way better than kattle
about how much damage to unlock ruby cards in rift?
might need to build another set bwaha
I've heard 80bill
just 80b wow nice
Going from 200 to 220 took me from 5bx to 25bx cooking speed, that damned angry boy doesn't want to unlock 
im closeish then, my best is around 50 bil, could probably get to 60 bill if i min maxed damage
Levelled the luk bubble with atoms and my damage went down, because I have less atoms for the artifact damage% ๐ฅฒ
80-100b for the ES rift required before the last 2 afk rifts for ruby cards
I did it with 100, but only shifted into damage cards because I was getting 1-2 portal kills off getting it with 80
And was too impatient to carry on trying it at 80
i just got my eldy today! but i still need the extra 5 from the acheivement... only 150books away lol
8 clogs down, 32 to go...
Nah fuck candies, ES got this
Got 8 in less than an hour, not huge
whats your lowest dish lvl? im guessing like lvl 34-36 haha
spot on, lowest 3 are 35
dang that nice, cooking gives a lot of juicy buffs
atom collider cooking lvl?
that thing is such a nice multiplier
low actually, only 4
I need to resample but i'm so close to 245'ing all my log skills for every mage so I'm putting it off
don't want to lose that artifact printer muliplier yet
we also have a card doubler chip next rotation so I guess I'll wait for that
ive finally made it.. finally found them.. soon they will fear me
Which card doubler, top left or bottom right?
bottom right
So 10m fairies?
yeah its krakens, fairys is top left
theres another bottom right a week or two after so stack up 20mill krakens
Oh thank christ, because I don't have 2m fairies ๐
well in 2 weeks theres the keychain doubler so start farming those fairies
yeah, real good rotation of chips coming
and then a load of trash for a month or two
not me having to wait for nov-dec rotations 
waiting for that christmas choco chip?
waiting for basically everything 
im waiting for that poker chip
that make much difference to damage?
figured weapon power was proper weak end game
idk i dont have it LOL
it'd give me like 30 weapon power with a kattle weapon which seems meh at best
gave me like 10% more dmg
Does the +100 max lvl for talent library from construct mastery work?
Ahh might just need to restart
6 team
DK is the best kattle key farmer right?
yes
I should free him from the lab and use him then i guess
that'd mean putting my vman in the lab though
Anyone got the drop rate sheet on hand? I remember hearing about one.
what version of kattle should I be farming? I assume normal of chaotic are a lot more key to drop rate friendly
Depends what you're looking for
still need a necklace
key conservative normal, if you have the quest do nmare to get capes/trophies too
if thats an option for you
If you're going for most efficient then normal is best for necklace
Nightmare for obol (I think)
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if more than an hour has passed
I thank you
Should you wait for plants to grow? I wait for bonsai, but not any of the other evolutions currently
should you be careful with this?` heardd about some bug that locks you out of all rewards
Howd you get that?
Dont think its a bug, its to prevent cheaters from getting everything at once?
Like higher unlocks have a longer time gate. think one of them is like 7 or even 14 days
What is this for? ๐ค
alright thanks
idle skilling
Whoa you still get rewards for that?
yah, the np is gone but you can just enter the code in w1 town
The trophy has a month delay on it, HF
Worth it
there is most definitely a bug with claiming, I lost out on my trophy cause of it. Had to email lava to get it
I had the same forced delay but I got all the rewards after waiting the prescribed time
I had to wait the first time, then wait for the 2nd time and I guess that's where it bugged, cause it wouldn't let me claim anymore after that
I am about to give up with my last 2 t6 plants I need >.>
Do I have to level up Divinity to complete the quest for the Pig in W5?(I need to be level 25 divinity and im level 38)
Think you just need to return to town if memory serves
I did. I also restarted my game.
I'll just leave it for now and see what happens lol
Could have sworn I just had to go back to town. I guess it being locked to a level up could be the case.
It usually works for me if i stay on the same map and just go to gem shop then exit
yeah refreshing map between his quests did it for me
It worked for me after awhile. โค๏ธ Thanks
What happens if you claim 30 minutes worth of AFK gains but at 30 minutes on the divinity elephant? It shows 1 hour of refinery but does it actually give an hour, since I didn't do the whole hour?
no, its just a rounding display
So does it give me 30 minutes of afk gains then?
im not 100% surebut if its anything like nugget claim for example, its wasted time
Oof. I've been wasting hourssssssss of afk stuff then. (Faming Genes lol)
it may not, like i said im not 100% sure but its a good habbit to try to fix regardless
What happens if your game crashes during lava ballpit of fire? Do you just lose your balls? ๐ค
It doesn't give the whole hour (just the displayed time is rounded), but it does give the proper afk time. This is pretty easy to test with sailing, since in 1h your boats would do half the journey to 2h islands (and they don't).
Ohhhh, okay. I feel so much better with that knowledge. Thank you. ๐ฎโ๐จ
Bro at first I thought you could cheese it and afk for 5 mins but get 1 hour progress
Then I realized it was giving the actual afk time ๐
Also, for farming genes 2min afk is the optimal time (in terms of AFK/h), but it's such a pain to do it's not really worth it
hello could someone explain me how the style mantra works in divinity ?
!mantra
Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.
In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.
(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)
what exactly do I need to start working with stats for dmg?
steak and last alchemy bubble?
ahh ty that helps
Good damage sources yeah
Should I make the krattlecruk armor?
I mean is there anything else other than these 2?
Im starting to get a lot of armor/cards for stats but don't have any of these yet so dmg seems to not be increasing as much
swapping from efaunt tusk (helm) to lava helm only gave me 20m dmg
You're definitely missing a lot of damage for your equipment / stats i'd say
Are your talents up to date?
oh im running rarity gear/cards/etc
im just saying that stat increasing is not increasing my dmg by much yet
i dont have either steak or the last alch bubble
im just wondering if theres any more stuff that increases dmg via stat
check the mage talent page
you miss either the steak artifact or real dmg bubble from alchemy t
theres 2 talents in there that make a big diff
I'm missing both of them actually ๐
which is what i was asking about, is there no real point in investing on stats before them?
there is but its only the talent in the 2nd page otherwise i dont think there is that much of dmg boost from stats
These are the main ones, as for the rest it's not as strong. For example wisdom increases mana, and your ES has a talent to increase damage with mana. There's also this bubble that scales on mana.
well you can get your crit to 200% for that sweet guaranteed mega crit
im missing the last talent from dungeon shop still
if youre looking at dmg gained specifically from gaining more main stat you need a combination of untwisted robes power trithree steak and mage is best @undone steeple
im probably missing something
then work on it it gives a big boost for active dmg
but those are the big ones
There's always a point in investing in stats. On top of damage, they increase your efficiency -> bigger samples -> more atoms -> better alchemy -> repeat
thing is i dont know how dmg is calculated in this game
of course but he asked about pure dmg
like, Ancient Steak is 4% dmg per 100 main
assuming I get to 7k its 280% dmg
is that on top of every other source of increase dmg I have or is it separate
On top of other %total damage
Steak is additive with very few things, which is why its bonus is so good
Really? Didn't know that
i am not sure exactly how it works but i get more dmg from normal steak then from the lvl 100 bubble of the other one
yea i know there are some weird calculations with different sources of increasing stuff
which is why it didnt make sense to me as to why stats were better than % dmg overall
Yes, because the bubble is additive with a bunch of other things, making its individual contribution to your overall damage lower
but if its multiplicative on steak than i guess its what makes it worth it
i only have 3 boats that reach the island on 2hrs unfortunately so itll take a while
also chips and and star signs
wait no i wanted to direct it to other comment of yours
i meant to say that chips and star signs give a good bonus for dmg
Stats provide base damage on top of anything that provides more, so even without things like steak base stats is always good
i know its always good, my point was if it was better than % dmg without these sources
for example, chizoar helm still gives me more damage against lava helmet
because i dont have steak or bubble
That is always completely subjective to both character and progress
which is the whole discussion we were having?
Typically by the time you can make troll armour reliably all the parts will increase your max damage (while decreasing your min because you lose the mastery)
Just wear what gives you the best damage until you get steak and bubbles - then assess again (magma >>> chizoar)
Yo everyone
Certainlly by the time you can afford to make magma you will always get more damage from it than chiz
Yeah i know matt, my main question here was only if there was any other source of dmg per stat or if it was just bubble and artifact
i dont
There are - just not as strong
there isnt
Is it worth to switch from lab to divinity by all characters or make it split 50/50 and one guy fighting mobs ?
actually i fixed my cards and lava is giving exactly 2m dmg more than chizoar atm
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how far into div are you? if you have no div progress, hard stop everything and plant everyone in div until you get bear god
park everyone on div
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or farm level if you dont have all 10 characters yet
not sure if you care about it but you can a get very good bonus of dmg with star signs plus double chip for star signs
double chip hasn't showed up for me since i started playing
i'll get my first one in a week or two i think, have to check the schedule
as for star signs ive been kind of neglecting them ever since i got the third active one
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Just make them all infinite, ezpz
star signs can def be big. try to get them done sooner than later
What's idle about this game?
yea i havent even touched rift yet either hahahha
Not much anymore
Doot
ok then i also only have the star signs and cards didnt gain the pendant and keycahin yet
Just what I thought
I can't keep up lol
Thanks
well most CAN be idle. but youre not gonna progress much lol
Doubling infinite starsigns is also far better because their negative no longer applies while they are infinite
star signs and infinty signs are very helpfull so dont forget them
@sick sage
Was it you who I made that bet with?
im not sure i can progress that further into rift to get infinity stars
dont worry about "keeping up" play at your own pace and whats fun to you
Does Sail Captain Rare chest chance bonus also work for siege breakers undending loot pile skill??
Without being infinite, the 3 hydron starsigns net you -15% MS and -6% afk gains. With infinite you just stop caring about those lines
as for star signs, i just need to stop and do them, but im lazy
Stat sheet? ๐ค
Oh the games fantastic not a complaint
Admittedly 1b more
just dont want you to think its a competition or to degrade your own progress by comparing to others. youll always feel subpar if you do that. just play as you like!
Infinite starsigns are at rift 11, you can get there with like 100m damage or something easily
first one down
Damn, how long that take you and how much pain was managing the moles? Like, were you manually punching moles or just relying on void?
A lot of punching, running (thank God I remembered speed potions exist), sweating and hitting the boss every minute or so. All in all... 30 minutes?
this thing looks awesome
Did you just not bother trying to punch kattle untill you had void up?
Exactly that
all the base guaranteed stones because i'm a scaredy cat at gambling with the kattlekruk stones
But I made a bet. Had to win it
its ok i meant the scarf itself
it sure does look necromantic.
I wish there was a hotkey to "attack closest mob" that wasn't enabling auto
have some lava souls popping off your neck wearing it dr. who style
i still dont have one honestly doesnt bother myself with him yet till i finish all my hampters grinding
i'll upvote your player suggestion
Would make mole management easier since you can just wasd around and attack rather than having to click
Unfortunately that would still count the boss
And I was on mobile
I have bone gloves on my vman so attack is probably fast enough to push back the line a bit
Is this a drop from the new world 5 boss? Or is it crafted?
Both, sort of
It's crafted with a drop of the new boss
Craft that requires drops
crafted. this is the base item that drops from kattle
only took 2700 keys.
Alright, after this shit I only have to live with having to kill one more NKattle on a bb. The other chars are fine, just bb is annoying
But whatever. Vman is done. The rest is doable
dmg wise is it better then the scarf?
Well this was a very unexpected ratio to see if I can keep up during my quest for clogs
should be. but it's close in either direction. i'll need to get 2 so i can have 1 to compare to for each stat for sampling regardless.
Divine scarf is far and away better for AFK, the base amulet from kattle is better for active
But getting a scarf also means you're half way to the trophy, which also far and away blows the damage from the green chiz scarf
who cares about the green scarf thats the new amarok amulet
Perspective, since green scarf was the previous best you could equip
and so was the nah you have the drop itself and the crafting one so its the third place if you dont care about the one from the dungeon therefore the new amarok
eldritch dreamcatcher isnt working for me, anybody experciening the same?
the +2 chests in loot pile arti
also does not work for me
nice to know i spend so long to get it and now it doesnt work lol
I donโt think itโs that bad on mobile tbh
Is there world 6
If my trader skips a material I don't have can I not trade? I've got snowmen he wants but not the lightning, and can't trade
The trades are on a fixed schedule depending on your furthest island - you can see them on Idleon Toolbox for example
He won't let me deal atm even though I have what he wants
Ah I see what you mean. That's a rounding bug, just reload the map and you can trade again
Probably
I've tried cloudsaving
Send a screenshot of trade and materials
Oh - nevermind I figured it out
he's after the four-armed snowman which I don't have haha
lol yeah there's normale and rare treasures
I was getting so annoyed at him haha
1000t HP. Oh my God. I really hope I'
get something good. Not just 1 gem or whatever
how long did the fight take? xD
would you accept some decayiing teeth?
Half an hour or so
ok I expected somehow more
heck yes
was that the bb fight? he really sucks
Nah, if you think about how one punch hits 4 times...
Nope. That was Vman
vman also sucks
I am not there yet sadly need to get all characters to last quest first
Literally: why does every single beginner class suck so hard?
glory
gotta get that rift 36 going
maxed
now gotta start working on mice vial. dear lord
i like the buildings from construction
they like you too

as a friend

1000q
ouch, im only on 10Q green
im barely on 1 green
snail luck i guess
i saved 20 books for tenteyecle and then i found out you need lvl 5 automation arm 
you got an ok cog set up? your build rates a bit...
u dont need fury to get tentacle 200
cool, when you get time, consider ditching everyone but two squires to cogs, and really channel as much xp% and build% as you can
im getting +45 from riftslug, es family bonus, divinity, and symbols of beyond
just need a perfect book or close to perfect and extra levels '.'
u get to 200 without fury
i think im just gated by salts right now, cant level up construction build rate bubble
oh damn, 155 thats too low unfortunate
is it a good idea to start working on 1M req for all mobs even if Maestro aint 150 yet
Why not link to bear?
+45 is doable
i never used the bubble and have 10M build per hour. its about getting ridiculous squire level ( i mean you should use the bubble i jsut forgot about it)
like, forget about slug lol, people were getting 200 tentacle before pulling fury
Why need nobi over 200
fury just makes it easier
Hello
this one, no? also what level do my squires start popping off? theyre almost level 100
Y pick nobi over 200?
300+
not sure, my highest is 260
Yeah idk about the acc wide plan but bubo doesnโt need nobi link unless itโs for a specific goal
200 and always in lab will be worth it
Makes this guy my 7th green capitan
If ur dmg is good enough for oj u can probably finish push at the same time as getting some alch
i wouldnt push without multkill, too bad
If thatโs a really slow grind youโll probably want to be ccโing on a lower hp map at the start anyways
Next update for sailing: gold capitans
When u get there experiment with and without
Speed pots
And kill the top two rows at the start before dropping orb and knight
So ur first knight clears the bottom platform one extra respawn
so knight the very bottom?
Yeah every time
And then plan ur movement around putting it back up as soon as cooldown is done and clearing map as efficiently as possible for it
Speed pots in 3 slots
got 147/180 that time
idk if i can squeeze in much more without more levels on my orb but ill try a bit more
ty for the tips 
is there a way to separate ships. my C ship is somewhere behind one of these, no idea which.
On the captain screen you can click delete and then return the specific captain
Id prefer not to lose the ship progress so I redirect them just as they return with their loot. but yea, I could do that I suppose
For that you can look at IE and see how long til they come back to port
Gotta get more gems 
https://i.imgur.com/THiBxCg.png
Wtf have many have u gotten ๐
Side note, just remember to superchow before you push super hard, annoying stuck at 500-600k kph at rift 41 when it could have been a lot more if i just camped at r31 or earlier for it first.
A few, not sure what the scaling was/is but it does jump quickly, the one before this was like 3k water.
finaly complete
Damn im sure itโs not worth investing in it
Gratz! ive been stuck on that one a while now ๐ฆ
I removed most my boats to go back to lower islands to upgrade their loot value for now though
ive never backtracked to upgrade anything kkkkkkkk
if the island doesnt have a good relic, im not going there
it was a good catch up for me, after the gold event when i lost all my eldrich, which i had a bunch completed already, good enough
Oh more because i saw i had some boats that still had a cost of like only 50k or so on some things
So you didnt get those free gems huh?
nop, fun fact is that i only got a few upgrade to get my boat to achievement level and stopped, got back to farming my daily stuff lol
The few people who played Sailing new game+
Probably not but i get a ton of water, and since im focusing on GT i have too much of water 3 as a leftover atm. so besides obols and stuff, its eh
even then lost everything but meh
didnt even unlock any island =/ bummer (wa smissing the last at the time)
And then there was people who unlocked all islands and kept all of that ๐
yeaah i regreted not having unlocked at least the last one, at least i would have got something out of it
rich problems
hey guys, do any of you have a gmush bowman setup, or a link to one?
Has some outdated stuff and certain things not maxed:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1102722002030182470/unknown.png
Also, it's in french 
pas de probleme ๐ merci
u go there, and go offline GG
equip chips and thats basicaly it '.'
For prayers, be sure to double check it, sometimes -dmg +mk is better, sometimes its worse
You smell like a rat, u cute like a cat
and that chip setup on link is bad
weird zerg isnt in the prayer
Multikill for gmush farming is very bad
mob respawn chips should be on that picture, not multikill
tbh i was thinking fibers as well for +30% kills.. surely that's better than +15% dmg?
everytime i see some old guides my eyes burn a little bit for the lack of accuracy on th einformation, dear lord
bunch of little things like this, just too lazy to keep testing everything haha
idk, not my pic. I just save those type of links for easy feedback to remember some things sometimes
would be good if they were accurate information!
don't upgrade fibers too much or it's useless
fibers is usualy very bad on low tier worlds
back when SB talent had fillers, zerg prayer was difficult to get i think
all as one
so don't wait too long as their hp scales very harsh over time
Rift 41, stuck at 600k kph or so. Nearly done ๐
https://i.imgur.com/K0pUkq1.png
chow is basically map based, not mob based
Some code digger said those dungeon lobby mobs dont count
why would it
mobโs locations are kind of predetermined
Probably also from the rng of tente
When a mob is killed, a ghost is left behind in the general area, so having a small radius just loses opportunity to raise dead
They respawn back in the area where they died so i dont really see a reason to keep raise dead levels intentional low except for talent pts allocation issues
Does this only apply for active kills or do afk kills work aswell?
Just tested it with 8h+ candy and timer didnt change. so seems only online. (unless candy doesnt work)
omg imagine afk... that would be so broken
wonder if it scales with kpk and mk
Beast master will be useful someday
Just realized it was all bm kills xD thought the talent was just kills from whale
i tested both irl afk kills and candy kills, no progress on egg timer
What's beast masters next super elite class
butt master
Is it wind walker or mayheim
Prob wind walker I imagine
I can't wait for death bringer
It sounds cool
yeah seige breakers next elite class is booty breaker
last mile to go
Nah it's mayheim
chair master, w6 introduces chairs to afk in where he lives forever
Chair pet inc
yeah most likely
gaming chair tool equip incoming
lets you sit in lab, divinity, and chair at the same time 

maybe you just had really bad rng 
what do ya'll think are the final tab in gaming?
Gaming chair
colors for mutations, different colors unlocked with bits, and are multipliers. ontop of the current bit value
Like a green plant = 2x value, a blue plant = 3x or something

I'm not even meming I want a gaming chair in idleon
yeah he could totally call it Game of Chairs and make shitty references to the show
chair of ice and fire
oh that would be interesting, so like investing into higher chances for different colors to spawn etc
Yup pretty much, base cost to unlock different colors, then more bits to increase odds of each one, with different weight values on rng
might get banned
right, and then when you go in there you pick all the white and low lvl colors, to let the juicy colors grow to super high ranks for example
puts another lvl of depth to it, nice
Monster drink colored lustre gaming chair would be nice
Nawh not linked to their evo
maybe one of the new items would be to reset all evo lvls with a chance to improve color of plants
Should be a seperate mechanic else it's just.. another evolution tier without anything special. It's like saying "after t6 evo it turns green, is the same as a t7 evo"
So like another snail
It's better to keep the mechanics seperate that way you know "oh this bush is red, a 10x multiplier, i for sure want this to hit t5+"
right right
like it's worth letting the red grow to t8 ๐
another bites the dust, but still no necklace or cape ๐
I curse you with eternal unluckiness
It will never drop
that may happen XD
thats why i cant have doot as well ๐ฎ
Exactly
was missing 1 scarf, that went quick xD
https://i.imgur.com/VbkidzK.png
spam normals, get tons of free keys back
id farm more bosses if you could auto replay the boss room 
rofflll just did a blighted, try and get that cape.. and urm:
https://i.imgur.com/eVhGjHR.png
2 scarfs?
yeh in a single drop, didnt know that was possible 

yeh, w6 plz give us this
So you could like
or just insta loot unlock so u dont need to wait for animation drops
thatd be nice
i agree this is an idle game we shouldnt need to play manually 
Add another green gem currency, so An insta-boss kill consumes 1x green gem 
good luck
Should get a response tomorrow hopefully
Did a aptitude test there on Wednesday for the job
i like to watch the interview in that movie Ted with mark wahlburg for inspiration
:')
Canada seems nice
Alot of people I know went over there for jobs
Pretty popular choice
Either Canada, Sweden or Australia
it is nice quality of life, just dont try to buy things from US with your CAD hehe
I think $1 USD is something like $1.30 CAD
Jesus
Got easier by the minute:
https://i.imgur.com/dkRYVDm.png
Does this mean if cape drops you get 3 at once guaranteed?!
https://i.imgur.com/Scn0fwF.png
imagine having the cape
i havnt gotten a single boss cape yet 
kinda shit
Easter cape is better
yeah and i hate that cape
I totally don't use it
i only wear it to not feel naked
Same
here a drop of 2 scarf btw:
https://i.imgur.com/pUMdEsL.png

whats your DR?
12.68
X2 drops
my doot doesnt do that
Jesus Christ 12.68
he just stands there and looks cute
I want doot
I'm missing something since ES is at 13x ๐ค
Doot enjoyer slide me green crystals 

grats
We need a gifting system like hypixel
Wiki is a lie, only got 1
wish we could swap the bonuses on other cosmetics, like we can with hats now
yeah boss capes look nice but unuseable
time to do some amarok 
definitely seems nice if you have the end-game artifacts
i got 5.5x DR is it time for me to farm pop obols? 
Yeah pop obol farming isnโt bad at all
u are also getting card chance cards
Couldnโt even get much hourly with 6x idfk anymore
i did it for an hour, didnt get a single pop obol and said it wasnt for me when I was at like 4x
pop obols are effort
ES active?
yeah
Pop obols r gonna take a while
why is ES good for DR
can someone show me their DR from obols for motivation? 
explain to me, i'm braindead
i believe because portal mobs have increased drop rate
I see
I was getting 2-3 per hour with that dr
thx papi
ES wormhole has the best DR scaling but only applies to normal mobs. DK has decent DR scaling mechanic, but is applied to all mobs on screen. SB has poor DR scaling mechanic that only applies to normal mobs



