lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[somber sparrow]

why try and calculate that, just click however many times you can - it didnt take very long for anyone who has it, but im pretty sure that nobody tried to wait until they hit max%

[north juniper]

I finally understand why people say DK is amazing for farming statues

[somber sparrow]

its the same for breeding and sailing - chances get low so you try to get as many chances as possible instead of trying for very few higher % chances

[pallid torrent]

i mean it just gets to 3% really quick just a couple harvest can do 2-3% chance a handufl of times a day it seems statistically impossible to still ahave not ahve gotten it without lava having manually messed with my account. Is lava know to be above messing with individual accouints because those people were critical of him?

[somber sparrow]

do you want a tinfoil hat?

[pallid torrent]

its not just with this too ya,know i still cant get above level 2 in spiketrap suprise and just have to give up anytiome i get that gp task

[somber sparrow]

even if that was the case, nobody would every find out unless theyre able to dig deep into the code

my rng in this game is underwhelming aswell but thats just how life is sometimes

[pallid torrent]

does lava mess with individuals in the past like this? I know he did the embarassing f2p freeloadeder thing and messed up a lot of accounts when reversing his mistake with the gold bobulyte glitch.

[sick sentinel]

lmao

[placid mural]

i heard him talking about you on one of his private message boards

[deep lodge]

If you always click at 0.2%, you'll have these odds:

• 63% chance to need less than 500 tries
• 86% chance to need less than 1000 tries

[somber sparrow]

nothing i heard of at least

Hope this answer helps you to stop with these questions.

[placid mural]

apparently he has hacked into your webcam tunes in to watch you suffer at his hands

[pallid torrent]

i know, he kinda has a weird thing with going after anyone who has eben openly critical, i just wonder if it transcended to literally messing with their idleon accounts

[vital tusk]

24 portal run...i need more

[pallid torrent]

idk if youre meming but lava do be mad at me for some stuff

[deep lodge]

If you pick at 3%, you still have a 5% chance to need more than 100 tries to get it

[barren otter]

lol jarko

[sick sentinel]

brother nobody care enough to mess with your account

[placid mural]

Dude. . . yeah i was memeing, i doubt he even knows any one of us here

[sick sentinel]

its just unlucky

[barren otter]

youre a number on a list

he aint out here with a personal vendetta agaisnt you

[bleak gazelle]

just against your wallet

[ocean matrix]

Hey guys, I suppose is really worth doing the divinity grind till level 40 on all characters uh

[somber sparrow]

you have a typo in "100"

[ocean matrix]

Yeah but the 40 first for the passive xp

[barren otter]

i afkd div till 40

and it was the most boring shit ever

[vapid wraith]

it's an idle game

[barren otter]

some ppl stop after they unlock bear

[hollow wasp]

when going to sleep this is fine when i have auto arm 2 right

[somber sparrow]

even one of the foods should suffice

[ocean matrix]

Yeah I suppose, it is, is there a way to do it faster? Or just get the style of 2xp per hour and afk weeks?

[deep lodge]

AFK or Active? For AFK yes, active not sure

[hollow wasp]

afk

[pallid torrent]

he and i have argued in the past about his spamming rng roadblock and im the person he is referring to in this message when he is saying "you" not that im celebrity or anything lmao, but he difinitely does not appreciate my ciriticisms

#💖future-content-blog message

[heady scaffold]

if one stack of food gets consumed, they all do

[barren otter]

at the start the only real way to increase div xp/pts is the gem shop sparkie

[hollow wasp]

huh?

[heady scaffold]

[ocean matrix]

Wait, but the Goat God, the bonus is they count as meditating even when they're in lab, right? I can farm the two things at once?

[placid mural]

got the reddit post to go along with it?

[deep lodge]

Just some lava logic

[hollow wasp]

i dont understand this

so when all gets consumed while i afk

all my food gone?

when all of my inv gets consumed

[barren otter]

if you have goat unlocked yea

[placid mural]

as long as you have food in your bank you are fine

[hollow wasp]

ty. ppl trying to me

[deep lodge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKmLrY4-yX4

[placid mural]

the same type as in your inventory

[deep lodge]

If you can stomach a 30 minute video about food consumption (it's hard), you'll understand everything (and then promptly forget)

[hollow wasp]

bro linking me a 30min video

can u make a video in a short version of 2mins for me?

[bleak gazelle]

tl;dr somethingsomething afk calculations are weird and if your survivability is iffy then bye food??

[white badger]

Just play it on 2x speed for 15min

[deep lodge]

You said you didn't understand, i'm just referring your to Professor Jrohrer's lecture

[heady scaffold]

tldr is that 310 cap is not enough, and multiple stacks of food only increases survivability, not the time you can afk for

[hollow wasp]

thanks

[placid mural]

i will say from my experience, as long as the food is semi relevant to the amount of health i have, and i have lots in the bank, ive never had an issue (assuming you dont have the "survivability" warning when getting ready to afk)

[barren otter]

you joke but i do this lol

[hollow wasp]

i need 2x food to have 100% survivability

[heady scaffold]

then the 3rd food is useless

[placid mural]

assuming you have plenty in your bank

[deep lodge]

It will just be consumed alongside the others while giving you nothing

[hollow wasp]

2 hours of afk consumed like idk 200 food from me. i go to sleep for around 6-7h so i should be fine

[hollow wasp]

so i better just dont equip this food?

[heady scaffold]

310 food will last 3 hrs then, the other stacks wont add to that time

[placid mural]

sapphire, with 61k wis what kind of oak samples are you getting?

[heady scaffold]

like 1b i think

[hollow wasp]

the food from my bank won't fill the 310 food? so this automation arm is useless and i just grab a bigger bag?

[heady scaffold]

automation arm only refills after the afk

wont help you during the afk

[hollow wasp]

ohhh

so best i put 4 food stacks

[heady scaffold]

no

[hollow wasp]

so all will be consumed after each other

[placid mural]

ummmmm are you sure about that sapphire? i have never come back to "lost" afk gains from lack of food since i got the automation arm

[deep lodge]

That's the problem, they get consumed at the same time (30/s for most)

[heady scaffold]

[hollow wasp]

oh okay. i cant afford a bigger food bag rn^^

wait, i might can

[heady scaffold]

im quite sure yes

[placid mural]

im not saying i am 100% confident in my question, just not sure

[deep lodge]

Do you have that star talent? It's good for survivability (AFK and active)

[hollow wasp]

i could upgrade it, i have it to 15 i think

[heady scaffold]

[deep lodge]

The TLDR is: Food is weird, get 300k bags and don't think about it anymore. Also, never take more than 1 event food for your AFK session.

[hollow wasp]

aw, no i cant

[white badger]

15 is fine

[hollow wasp]

event food? like % fishing? the orbs or smth?

[deep lodge]

Any boost food basically

But more specifically if it's rare

[placid mural]

1 single food counts for the entire afk session gain

[hollow wasp]

ohhh okay

so for fishing i could use 1 % speed 1% eff and im fine for the entire afk session

[sick sentinel]

dont forget to turn off auto arm food refill (for the 1 rare food boost afk thing)

[placid mural]

and if you are going to be logging in/off the character in question take the rest of your boost food and put it in your inventory so it doesnt auto fill back to your food slot and you "accidentally" afk with a full stack in a food slot

[heady scaffold]

just go watch jro's vids

[deep lodge]

That's why my advice is get large food bags, disable auto arm and don't think about it anymore

[heady scaffold]

helps you learn about all the random bs the game has

[deep lodge]

How does he even find all this? I tried to read the code, but it's just way too horible

[placid mural]

also just wait until late"er" game when you almost never use food or boost food regardless of anything else lol

because you have such a high "non-use" chance

[hollow wasp]

i do it with the 1552 stack then, should be enough

[heady scaffold]

used to be somewhat common knowledge back in w3 endgame when this stuff mattered

[sick sentinel]

jro would collab with code diggers

[heady scaffold]

technically it would probably eat through your xp pots first, but yeah you wont die

[deep lodge]

Should last you 10 hours from my calc

[hollow wasp]

ye and im fine. i dont sleep as long ^^

6-7 hours usually. sometimes less

[bleak gazelle]

can just equip 1 of each xp pot and throw the rest in your bag, it should count for the afk session and not pull any extra in, i believe

[deep lodge]

They're crying "Use meeee"

[heady scaffold]

this only works for skill food specifically

[zinc torrent]

How long did it take you to push W5? I've been stuck on Lamps for such a long time now with the high kills required

[deep lodge]

If you don't have Multikill, really, really long

[heady scaffold]

only took a week for my bubo at the start of w5

[zinc torrent]

Yeah, i´ve reached like 150m dmg on my pusher but cant get Multikill

[deep lodge]

Yeah, then take a break from pushing and do some account progress. You won't get anything cool from the boss with that damage

[zinc torrent]

guess ill work on dmg more before trying to push it

[placid mural]

Sapphire, think kattle divinity will be added before or after w6?

[placid mural]

My first w5 clear was with bubo and no MK

[zinc torrent]

Thanks 😉

[deep lodge]

From start to finish?

[green eagle]

it's too

[placid mural]

Yeah

[zinc torrent]

heard that a lot

[heady scaffold]

no clue

[green eagle]

i think last two gods will have something to do with w6 skills

so probably will be released with them

[placid mural]

I actually figured the god ranks would be world's six seven and eight

[deep lodge]

Last time I was discussing divinity bonuses (and why there would never be a way to equip all gods at once), doot came out the very next day

[placid mural]

Since they have no purpose yet

[green eagle]

what do you mean?

you mean my dmg talent from having god rank 3 is worthless

[placid mural]

After you unlock all the gods you can increase your God rank, which has almost no use yet

[heady scaffold]

they give div xp and dmg, massive gains

[green eagle]

HUGE gains

average size eggplant, i know

[placid mural]

I figured the god ranks were his way to extend divinities to w6 and beyond since it is already built in

And has a similar scaling for unlocking

Not to dissimilar from the shiny pets in breeding

[deep lodge]

Reminder that this guy asked this question one day before doot came out

[placid mural]

Which were only recently given a purpose

[heady scaffold]

sigils and boons

[placid mural]

Gosh I have so much catching up to do on Sigils

WTB next level automation for book checkout that costs like 50 books but maxes all skills for one character lol

Could be a future companion boost

[shrewd nexus]

i heard DK on last map was good for key farming, but mines not rreally kicking off, wondering if im missing something. he gets around 550 orb stacks, so around 250 average boost, which is only 2.5 DR? seems kinda small boost, is it just cause he kills fast, or is it meant to be a bigger boost

[placid mural]

I'm getting around 800 orb kills with 13 base DR and I get about 50 keys an hour

[wild python]

AFKdleon

[shrewd nexus]

nice! any advice on it?im one hitting so not sure how your getting 300 more

[deep lodge]

Also 800 orb, 11.5 DR a bit less than 40 keys/h.

[deep lodge]

Do you use a crystal build?

[shrewd nexus]

yeah

[deep lodge]

With choco chip?

[shrewd nexus]

yep

[deep lodge]

Hmm

[placid mural]

One thing that helps a lot is not going. Past 267 on the orb skill.

[deep lodge]

Orb talent level?

[placid mural]

Two hundred and sixty seven is the sweet spot

[deep lodge]

Why?

[placid mural]

If you go past two hundred and sixty seven, the cool down overlaps with its duration, and it resets it

[shrewd nexus]

225

[shrewd nexus]

haha thats so broke

[deep lodge]

Damn, I was at exactly 267 (by pure luck and laziness to not book it to 245)

[placid mural]

Going past two hundred and sixty seven can literally lose you a hundred orb kills

[deep lodge]

Correction: I'm at 264

@shrewd nexus What's your crystal spawn chance?

[shrewd nexus]

maybe i just need better orb. I got eldritch head thing that gives talents this evening, so have a lot of stuff to book

[deep lodge]

Also, level of knight statue?

Yeah booking orb to 245 is definitely n°1 priority

[shrewd nexus]

probably mediocore, i dont have IE

[deep lodge]

Well, you should

[shrewd nexus]

i dont think i can

[deep lodge]

Why?

Apple login?

I think that's now fixed, iirc

[placid mural]

I personally sacrifice 2 card slots for crystal spawn chance. Because they increase total orb kills.

[shrewd nexus]

steam but no idea what my account log in is, used a temp email

i just never log out

[deep lodge]

Feels risky

[shrewd nexus]

yep

but stuck with it now

[heady scaffold]

log out, free yourself

[shrewd nexus]

im good for now thanks :p

[deep lodge]

red pill or blue pill?

[shrewd nexus]

but yeah, if i lose the account i lose the account, its not a massive deal

[deep lodge]

Say that again the day you roll a free doot

Or worse, a paid doot

[shrewd nexus]

i aint buying no doot

[deep lodge]

So you know neither the email nor the password?

[shrewd nexus]

nope

[deep lodge]

Geez

I guess lava might help you recover the email, but i'm not even sure you can do password recovery

[placid mural]

Also G dog getting 225 on the V. Man orb skill is pretty crucial.

[shrewd nexus]

lava wouldnt give a fuck

[deep lodge]

And since you don't have access to the email, you couldn't even then

[shrewd nexus]

i need to throw some books at my DK, thanks for advice

[opaque sun]

When you lack orb kills, reason is mostly duration (talent level) of the orb

[shrewd nexus]

yeah in hind sight i should have fixed it a week in or so, i normally just give fake details to any random thing i sign up to, didnt expect to play this long

[deep lodge]

I wonder if your login information is recorded somewhere in the game's logs, or maybe a token.

[shrewd nexus]

ah im not sure, passwords are typically never stored in plain text... but i guess it spossible

if i get logged out i will jsut take it as the worlds way of telling me to go do somethign else

[deep lodge]

Might not be that bad lol, the addiction will hurt for a few days and then you'll be free

[wild python]

20min later

[shrewd nexus]

im torn between having questions about the name, and not wanting to know the awnser

[wild python]

what?

[wispy sapphire]

quick question: what boxes should I level for my maestro-soon to be vman?

[shrewd nexus]

all of them

[lavish cloak]

all of them, in order, from cheapest to max to most expensive.

[wispy sapphire]

ok thanks

[lavish cloak]

the benefits of maxing out all boxes aside from myriad are massive.

[shrewd nexus]

fishing and catching will be hardest to level so maybe prioritise them, and cyrstal chance, but really you will get so many pens when you start farming them

[wispy sapphire]

will do, thanks for the tips

[lavish cloak]

are there linear infinite investments to make to gain stats besides the first alchemy bubbles?

[shrewd nexus]

no

[marble shuttle]

Unlocked the last island, is there a specific artifact I should focus on? Start on the lowest island that doesn't have ancient/eldritch? Put boats on their 2 hour travel island?

[shrewd nexus]

lowest to highest island will prob be most efficent given how steeply the odds change, i like to send a couple of boats to many places and it kinda works itself out

[lavish cloak]

rage, crystal steak, multikill are the big ones. don't be afraid to farm multiple islands at once though. get your boats leveled up

[marble shuttle]

thanks for the advice! 🙂

[shrewd nexus]

eyeball is useless you can skip it

[stuck pasture]

69 green stack, Nice

[shrewd nexus]

nice

[frail mauve]

Anyone got a guide on how to get more droprate, currently at 4.73, i think i should get more.

[opaque sun]

like base damage bubbles, hammer hammer, FMJ, call me ash, call me bob are some notable linear growing bubbles you can do hourly bubble clicks

[lavish cloak]

yeah, i'm doing a few. i'm just comparing myself to people who consistantly have 2x or 3x my numbers V

[cosmic tendon]

You know when ur doing pet arena and everything goes black but ur enemy and some numbers and it keeps going? Is that progress gonna be saveable?

[opaque sun]

For stats (str agi wis) some people use their daily atom on it making it grow faster, and also having doot allows more hourly clicks via omni 3d printer proc

Background going black should just be a visual glitch, not too common but happens once in a bluemoon. Should be fine on the saving part

[sick sentinel]

can check IE on your highest round to be sure

[heady scaffold]

background going black is a buff, less lag

[opaque sun]

Arena progress is saved per wave so dont have to wait defeat

[cosmic tendon]

I seem to get it a lot 💪

So should I try to find the exit arena in the top right or can I just close out of the game

[opaque sun]

The “you know when…” part is your local issue

You can close app or try to find the exit, doesnt matter

It saves periodically during the fight

[sick sentinel]

void popsicle

[cosmic tendon]

Kind of looks like a vibe

Thank you. I’ll give it a try as long as there’s hope

[sick sentinel]

all blacked out world might be cool

[untold saffron]

I'm late replying but I did Island 1 & 2 for artifact chance and they're easy then focused on useful artifacts ( dreamcatcher, steak, fury, NBLB to name a few)

[sick sentinel]

with all those nukes you'll be done instantly lmao

[marble shuttle]

all the way to eldritch?

[cosmic tendon]

Once time unfreezes for long enough

I’m down for no visuals but monsters and portal world

[untold saffron]

Thread is a good target as well

[sick sentinel]

flashlight tool or placeable torches

[tacit tulip]

still no recipe

[sick sentinel]

i want to go to the dark

[cosmic tendon]

So news update I died at round 160 or 70 but it only took like 5 mins

I somehow got the 125 u lock but not the 150 and it didn’t use up my arena entry

[tacit tulip]

fwiw the meta 200 team can't fail once it gets going

so if you have the guys, go for it

[cosmic tendon]

the talent is on cd

[opaque sun]

sounds like you might have some could saving issue, and black screen is just one of the side effect

[glossy rain]

you dont need the talent

[cosmic tendon]

Whatever I’ll do it anyways

[glossy rain]

damage is not the issue

you only need the comb

[cosmic tendon]

Wouldn’t it make it faster?

U mean eggshell/Stache

[glossy rain]

by the time you get into later stages

[opaque sun]

Very slightly

[glossy rain]

it ran out anyway

[opaque sun]

Like makes your total of 50min fight to 49.5min fight level of difference

[cosmic tendon]

Apparently u don’t want alchemic

Because u can do it without and less crash? Someone will be able to say better than me

[opaque sun]

you can tho, but makes fights slightly harder

[cosmic tendon]

Oh ok thanks. I heard ppl say it takes hours. I’ll see what happens because mine have been fast so far

[tacit tulip]

Alchemic is great for 200 arena if you use a specific build

[glossy rain]

the comb for free 200 is from front to back: burger, whale, refiller, looter, shield and bone

once you got eggshell unlocked

and its free

[cosmic tendon]

Wdym free?

[glossy rain]

you cant failk

[cosmic tendon]

Like easy guaranteed

[glossy rain]

fail*

y

[cosmic tendon]

Ah ok nice

Thanks

[glossy rain]

shield is keeping everyone alive

once it gets going

[opaque sun]

like as if there is a p2w method to win

[cosmic tendon]

U think that’s better than the bone, shield, looter, refiller, badumdum, burger

[glossy rain]

its the same

i said tho

[tacit tulip]

Swap sand pot/glublin positions if you have alchemical

Eventually, Sandpot will proc alchemical and kill the front 3 pets, but leave you with an invincible refiller

[cosmic tendon]

Oh so is that ideal?

I thought it’s more likely to crash

[glossy rain]

y

[tacit tulip]

It doesn't tend to crash cause the looter kills itself eventually

leaving you with a rapid fire shield/rattler

[opaque sun]

you want to order them in the priority of death, so looter can die first before refiller

[worn mesa]

Hey guys, can someone tell me what this pendant effects is?

[cosmic tendon]

Why is sand pot so big in the pic lol

Did it used to be like that?

[glossy rain]

noone died for me in that run, but i didnt have alchemic unlocked

[opaque sun]

As long looter puts up enough permanent buffs he can die

[bold quiver]

second baby

[worn mesa]

Woah, that is really good.

[tacit tulip]

but yeah using that setup I've seen people with sub 10k pets clear 200, it's great

[bold quiver]

next character now!

[opaque sun]

scarf usually gives more stats than tooth, but tooth will probably gives more damage

[worn mesa]

Oh yeah what about the wings? What the effects of those?

[cosmic tendon]

I’m sub 10k with an 11.2k max and I just hit start with the guide lineup, no alchemic

[bold quiver]

pretty decent i'd say

[tacit tulip]

Cool cool, it'll win, but just take a little longer than the alchemical setup

[opaque sun]

Capes are like 3% afk gain, its like a f2p way to get rift wings

Not amazing, but okay to put on your capeless guys

[bold quiver]

they are very beautiful tho

[cosmic tendon]

Oh ok thanks. I’ve got the splicer so I’ll try that way tm if I don’t want to wait on this/crash/lose

[tacit tulip]

Oh yeah, I didn't take a screenshot cause I was at work, but hit all ancient artifacts today

[undone steeple]

for the love of god drop me this recipe molti i cant take it anymore

[opaque sun]

capes are more important as a stub ticket to get the trophy

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah those are cool

[bold quiver]

then u need 450 lvl for the trophy, pain

[worn mesa]

Aw man, i was hoping it was like 20% stat increase, but yeah, its decent.

[sick sentinel]

what lvl are you rn

[bold quiver]

On bubo 452!!!, ES 425, everyone else 385ish

gonna grind 425 on DK now

[sick sentinel]

eeey got the bubo nice

[bold quiver]

yeah 1 out of the way

But i just remember that i have beachboy trophy..... so i cant use the drop rate one lol

[sick sentinel]

if you are impatient i just found out earlier the while pearls are decent for class exp. 10% per so it does take a bit of time but if you are impatient fro the last few lvls they are decent

[bold quiver]

hmm yeah no way, i only got 120 white pearls sitting around

BUT i might consider using some from 449 to 450 probably, thanks for the tip

[tacit tulip]

slowly getting my vman damage up, not quite kattle level yet

[bold quiver]

9M looking good man

imagine if u crafted magma gloves and only got 0,5% dmg increase... That wouldnt happen right?

[tacit tulip]

currently it won't, no >.>

[bold quiver]

it hates u

Also some tip for u guys, foud out today that increasing skilling lvl is a great way to boost efficiency!

[tacit tulip]

there's a base bit of eff per skilling level, but also the stamps that restrict you based on level give you a bit more as you catch the stamp level upo

[bold quiver]

yeah im imagining that the stamps are the biggest deal

dude i rly need to buy this

i've been struggling with presets for probably over a month, but i never thought about buying more '.'

[lapis mesa]

just forget to switch cards like the rest of us.. works out fine 😄

[bold quiver]

i also do that lol

realized today that i had been fighting afk on 2 characters with skilling preset

no wonder they KPH was lower lol

[north juniper]

Booya I'm finally getting my waves to 80

[bold quiver]

did u get voidinator??

[glad mountain]

thats good enough for nm kattle

[north juniper]

My PE needs levels but boulder is at 35 and stormcaller at 30

Party is at 19

[bold quiver]

😮

[tacit tulip]

I probably could do it right now I just don't want to 😄

[bold quiver]

dont know what strat u are following but u dont need to level stormcaller neither frozone above lvl 2 to get most of the early TD to 100

[opaque sun]

i never really used mored than 4 card presets

[north juniper]

I'm sloooooowly moving up.

[bold quiver]

just need to lvl poison guy

[north juniper]

It's that guide spreadsheet. But I did hit next wave a few too many times at the end.

[bold quiver]

i beat goblin 130 with lvl 3 frozone and 2 storm '.'

[north juniper]

I'll have to do it again and let it roll after 80 slowly

Wait what

[bold quiver]

TD is mostly a DPS check

[deep lodge]

Damn, didn't realise holy pearls were 10% of a level, that's pretty good. Gonna start buying them at killroy

[north juniper]

Did you have parties for speed?

[bright current]

its a fuckin patience check too when ur doin boss rounds

[bold quiver]

Frozone and Storm are only support characters, so their construction lvl doesnt matter

[north juniper]

Nooooooo

Buy books

[bold quiver]

oh yeah i used the comp on guide, justdidnt lvl frozone or storm

[deep lodge]

I do 0-20 in 12h, no need for books

[glossy rain]

anyone has advice for perfect trade deal achiev?

[north juniper]

Shoot I'm definitely going to run it again then. At least get it to 100z

They were sitting at 20-40 each so hopefully this helps the soul gain

[sick sentinel]

They def werent at one point but i guess got updated

[tacit tulip]

soul gain for max wave is pretty significant

[bold quiver]

Te only important is Poisonic elder. U only need to level everything when u are going for sxtremely hard scores, the ones that require poisonic over 50 and a bunch of extra dmg + ton of cost reduction

[deep lodge]

Basically, a trade's amount of ressources sold (so a direct influence on gold price) is like 1/4 of that type of ressource you own. So if it's above 777, you buy the trade, and open gem shop to reset the map The price will go down. If it's below 777, you open a chest of that type of ressource (so you have to plan) until you get a little bit more of the ressource. Open gem shop to reset map and price will go up. Repeat until 777

[deep lodge]

Yeah they used to be useless

[bold quiver]

Qestion: Does anyone know why DK boomerang reduces 10 cooldown from 13 everytime?

so instead of waiting 13 seconds to reset i only wait 3-4

[sick sentinel]

If u catch it

[opaque sun]

having few fertilizers helps to get achievement

[tacit tulip]

catching the boomerang reduces the CD

[glossy rain]

damn thats nice

ty

[deep lodge]

That's 80% of any level for free each week with killroy

[bold quiver]

wow amazing, makes sense

[green eagle]

finally got it

[tacit tulip]

now go see which cards you had 5* haha

[bold quiver]

niceeeeeeeeeeeee, now try to actualy get those cards......

[tacit tulip]

I had more than expected

[bold quiver]

i still havent farmed a single card to 5* (normal ones not boss

[deep lodge]

Not even crystal monsters?

[bold quiver]

the other cards haha

i thik i have enough cards to get crystals to 10*

[sly plank]

I noticed there are some things that seem to snapshot based on what character I'm logged into, like alchemy brew speed and construction build speed, how does it impact afk gains?

[glad mountain]

yep.

[sly plank]

do the afk gains snapshot based on whoever I logged out of last?

or is it based on who I log into first?

[glad mountain]

for cons i think first iirc

might be completely wrong tho

[deep lodge]

Some guy told me it only matters who you open construction tab on, but I don't think that's correct

[cosmic tendon]

Time in general is loaded when u claim afk

[green eagle]

had almost all of w1, didn't have red or wood shrooms, then most of w2, only 3 in w3, 2 in w4 and 2 in w5 lol

[sly plank]

so if I want to prioritize construction I should log into my DK first? and if I want to prioritize alchemy then log into bubo first?

[cosmic tendon]

So I’d assume that. Easy enough to test though if u just jot down rates before logging off. Time and rate check and build gain when logging on

[sly plank]

what's affecting the snapshots? is it because of alchemy bubbles?

[glad mountain]

if you priotize alch you just play bubo x)

[cosmic tendon]

Talents

[deep lodge]

And talents

[sly plank]

thanks all

[deep lodge]

This bubble is being affected by this one when on warrior

[sharp timber]

Does doot give all gods or only ones unlocked?

[cosmic tendon]

All

[sly plank]

all gods, but only once you have level 2+ divinity on all characters

[sharp timber]

So how does the lab god work with that? How do I still get lab exp?

[sly plank]

well, that's not completely true. it will apply all gods on characters with 2+ divinity

you can get lab exp by putting them in lab

[cosmic tendon]

Lab becomes a div/lab exp chamber

[sharp timber]

Ahhh okay got ya

[cosmic tendon]

So lvl to 2 and off the altar, into the lab

[tacit tulip]

there's still sizeable benefits to upgrading divinity even with doot - the minor bonuses of each god scale with player divinity level, you need them unlocked for the blessing bonus, and skill mastery bonuses

[cosmic tendon]

Plus lab chip slots and lab mastery

[bold quiver]

wtf didnt know the orb could go so high, tremor wurms map OP

[sterile sundial]

Dang, 245 book on orb?

[north juniper]

What's your CD on it?

[bold quiver]

infinite cast

[north juniper]

I need your secrets !

[lyric sequoia]

You stop levelling orb at 267 ish

[bold quiver]

there isnt, u just lvl until 267

[lyric sequoia]

Avoids cast overlap

[north juniper]

I got mine to 400 earlier and that was copium enough

Aaah

My cap is at 201 right now but I'm working on getting it up there to 245 at least

[bold quiver]

but u also need some luck with crystals spawning to get some extra haha

cmon when will lava make the ressurect from hand instant like bubo? '.' thre is no point in having that delay

[tacit tulip]

bubo's is instant cause the skill instantly revives as you cast, hand periodically checks if all mobs are dead, and revives if they are

[north juniper]

True. I just got my DK up to par. Bubo is next.

[tacit tulip]

he could up the polling rate I guess

[bold quiver]

ofc he could lol

he is nerfing us!

[austere shore]

Just got to w5 should I throw all characters on divinity or just a few

[tacit tulip]

All but 1 if you're playing actively, aim for second god as your first step and you can take some time doing whatever after

[lyric sequoia]

It’s not quite instant actually, that’s actually 1 of the things that slow bubos raw kill count down

There’s a delay between auto casts

[austere shore]

My Es is my active is that going to be an issue?

[crisp hollow]

youll want to set your DK to active

[north juniper]

ES has been my active up until now and I'm at moles in W5

[crisp hollow]

or bubo

[sly plank]

I've been sitting on a level 4 beginner for over a week, I have 2 ES and 2 DK, it should be SB right? and I can split talent points between the sailing talents on my two SB?

[crisp hollow]

generally DK

[tacit tulip]

He'd probably help out more with the skilling buffs active as thjey're account wide

[tacit tulip]

Yes to both, don't use unending loot

[north juniper]

!guide or https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[sly plank]

awesome, thanks. I've been holding off because I want to make sure I'm finishing slab as I go lol

[north juniper]

Oh hey the bot is back

[tacit tulip]

If curious why you shouldn't use unending loot, I explained it earlier 🙂 #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[north juniper]

To be fair it has helped me with artifacts quite a few times on those upgrades

Also, those 20% respawn keychains are 😮‍💨

[sly plank]

are they good?

[tacit tulip]

been making the effort to craft w5 gear for all my charactersthis week and boy am I bored of farming cooking clogs for troll shoes 😄

best in slot for afk mob farming I believe

[sly plank]

what about active farming?

[tacit tulip]

Not useful for active, as you'll always be using a character with special respawn mechanics (ES, Bubo, DK) that don't rely on respawn speed

[sly plank]

thank you

[north juniper]

^Yup that.

This limited shop has some really good items

What's the consensus on the second to last plant in gaming. Just rack it up to 10-15 or spam the 2s?

[opaque sun]

Spam

[tacit tulip]

Always spam unlock for plants

[opaque sun]

More you save, less effective % per dna

[bold quiver]

HAs any influent player ever got an answer from lava as to why he doesnt fix siege breaker skills missing everything?

[opaque sun]

doesnt really misses on mine so not sure what you are talking about

[manic flume]

Is there anything to fix if the start point for the skill is not on the character?

[opaque sun]

If on mobile, accuracy seems to overflow

[fossil yacht]

hey guys i cant connect t the game is anyone having the same problem?

[tacit tulip]

the big and little cannonballs spawn ahead of the cahracter, yeah. On a map with platforms, you'll often cast the skill past the mob and miss

[north juniper]

Nope in it just fine

[manic flume]

but yeah I do agree they should spawn on/a tiny bit behind the SB

[limber fox]

where can I find a place with a build guide for blood berserker

[bold quiver]

for fighting?

[limber fox]

yes

[bold quiver]

just lvl the active skills, thtas it

[limber fox]

ok

[tacit tulip]

apart from killing kattle, you mostly won't use BB actively

so it doesn't matter too much what skills you pick

[bold quiver]

Did u see how lava changed BB skills specialy for that fight? so kind to us ;´)

[deep lodge]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml#

[north juniper]

Also this https://idleontoolbox.com/tools/builds?c=blood_berserker&b=0

[errant gyro]

Any recommendations on char to use to push w5?

[north juniper]

Wait there's nothing there 💀💀

[deep lodge]

Bubo

[errant gyro]

Aight cheers

[north juniper]

1M left on wave 90 of wakawakawakawaka

[mighty ledge]

mine doesn't do enough damage tho

only my es can

[north juniper]

Is your ES built well?

Yeah use your ES then

And don't neglect those bubbles!

[mighty ledge]

i never really tried with my es, i just gave it weapons and it blew stufff up

[opaque sun]

for pushing world, recommended to do on catcher or chopper as might as well benefit for reaching a skill node

[mighty ledge]

alchemy is one of those neglected nit fun useful skills lol

[bleak gazelle]

it do be like that

[north juniper]

I didn't like it at first but now it's one of my primary focuses

[mighty ledge]

alright, sounds good

[somber sparrow]

i liked tonys version of this image

[bleak gazelle]

i forgot to save it

[somber sparrow]

i got u bro :3

[sacred verge]

Any1 else have problems with pet followers on ios? Cant recycle anything

[tacit tulip]

there's been a lot of bugs reported for ios pets so you can probably assume yes

[north juniper]

Try and take care of pet and dungeon stuff on Steam if you can

[cosmic tendon]

What’s the best way to exit out of arena at 201?

[versed cypress]

stop your auto use abilities and die or wait for IE to update sayign you got it and just close the pet UI window

[tacit tulip]

the meta build dies pretty much instantly when you turn off skills so should be fine

[cosmic tendon]

Thank you

Just over 1.5 hours to 186 so far with pets power between 3-11k

[manic flume]

best upgrade for killroy?

[true obsidian]

may i ask what is this? i can't find it in wiki

[opaque sun]

Scarf

[manic flume]

guessing it's just time

[opaque sun]

It might be in the unobtainable section of wiki

unobtainable = wiki crew hasnt bothered to put in the right category yet

[tacit tulip]

pretty sure that's the scarf right?

[austere shore]

I got the snake for divinity how do I link to it?

[tacit tulip]

sit on the alter, click the snek

[cosmic tendon]

Sit on altar and click it

[austere shore]

Nice! Ez game

[cosmic tendon]

Each char individually

Unlinks are all at the same time

[azure spindle]

do the bone weapons build out of the magma weapons?

[tacit tulip]

monster material varies on weapon

[dim burrow]

wow thats easier to craft than i thought lol

[tacit tulip]

the hardest is the gloves that need 20m sock slices

[signal osprey]

Yeah the new armor and weapons are all pretty easy to make. Only annoying one is scarf and thats because it requires a rare drop

[dim burrow]

yea im trying to farm up the necklace but i still havent got one yet

[true obsidian]

gambla?

[dim burrow]

while waiting for the rest of my chars to get to moles

[true obsidian]

Yay, i got 1/6 roll

go to trash now

[cosmic tendon]

Do u need 5/6 min for it to be better than w5 stone?

[true obsidian]

i got 1 upgrade out of 6 slot...mean i failed 5 time

ouch

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah that’s very bad luck lol

[true obsidian]

never use them again

[cosmic tendon]

I was just wondering how many success to be a win

I think it’s 4/5 for tools

[shrewd nexus]

just to check, is the gaming snail strat to spam levels into it until you end up back at ero and feel regret?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[shrewd nexus]

cool

[dim burrow]

best class for farming nightmare kattlekruk

[signal osprey]

If you have the damage then vman

[green eagle]

i didn't realize you'd be able to overlap orb lol

[pliant hemlock]

yo got an issue with an artefakt. got the silver ankh but wont get shown in post office

[cosmic tendon]

U have second page?

[pliant hemlock]

in orders?

ye

[cosmic tendon]

All 6 carriers

[opaque sun]

Up to like lv12, you dont need to use encouragement on snail

[cosmic tendon]

Is the artifact on the platform

[shrewd nexus]

is it binary all the way up? like is lvl 12, 2 to the power 12? becuase thats crazy

[somber sparrow]

restart game

[opaque sun]

Yes its 2^snail level

[tacit tulip]

That sometimes happens shortly after unlocking the box. Try relogging and, failing that, click where the box should be. it's probably there but invisible

[dim burrow]

is there a strat for speedrun

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah there’s a Reddit post that’s pretty good

[somber sparrow]

do you just live with all the resets then? 😮

[signal osprey]

Yeah pretty much

[vocal warren]

Can someone explain how construction obols work? I never paid enough attention, do I put them on dk1 which I'm active on or dk2 that's afk?

[cosmic tendon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/idleon/comments/13mhamu/spoiler_vman_guide_for_highscore/

[dim burrow]

is it this one

oh

[cosmic tendon]

Read the first comment

[dim burrow]

tyty

[somber sparrow]

put on any dk and then only ever check the cons table with THAT dk

[pliant hemlock]

logged out of google. logged back in and restartet but nothing changed

[shrewd nexus]

isnt exp fucked so you should check on your barb or something

[vocal warren]

Seems easy enough, thank you!

[cosmic tendon]

U checked for invisible box and artifact on the platform?

[pliant hemlock]

yeah

[somber sparrow]

Gerne 😛

[signal osprey]

Only matters if you close your game then yes you would ideally choose barb first when you open the game again

[vocal warren]

Oh, a german? Nice!

[signal osprey]

If you leave the game open all the time then you can check who you want whenever you want

Also keep in mind that's for con specifically. Other exp gains it shouldn't matter

[shrewd nexus]

although you get like half speed if you check non squire?

[signal osprey]

For some reason the active character gets a lot less con exp than afk ones

Checking on barb first makes him take the proverbial bullet of reduced exp while still getting the warrior bonus for the carpenter bubble

So then both DK's get full con exp

[cosmic tendon]

But u get speed of active chars rate

If ur active, even if u didn’t check con

[shrewd nexus]

ah i see, thanks

[somber sparrow]

afaik you only progress in cons table when u check it

[coral goblet]

i just hit wave 50 on arena

[cosmic tendon]

Then how is ie knowing they’re ready

[coral goblet]

and unlocked 6 more spices with 5 pets

crazy lol

[shrewd nexus]

it lies to you

[signal osprey]

IE just guesses based on your speed the last time it checked

[cosmic tendon]

I don’t think so

[signal osprey]

If it thinks you finish in 3 hours than in 3 hours it says you're done regardless of whether or not you actually are

Most of the time it will be correct because computers tend to be decent at math

You can see the difference in trimmed slots though

[cosmic tendon]

I’ve checked on dk and checked their rate, actives on es for a while, went back to dk and checked build and it was going at ES rate

I’ll do that again later because that was a while ago and only feel 94% confident

[tacit tulip]

go all the way, 5 pet supremacy!

[cosmic tendon]

I’ll do: check ES rate. Go on DK and start build of something that is 1 hr at DK rate. Set a timer for slightly more than DKs build time but much less than it would be for ES. Active on ES and when alarm goes off switch to dk and check if it’s done

[shrewd nexus]

add in making some tea for the wait and youve got yourself a plan

[solemn rampart]

Is Kruk's armor worth it to make? It doesn't have the +all stats% that the magma equipment has which I heard is pretty good to have.

[shrewd nexus]

apparently yes, the helmet gains damage and the other 3 dont lose much, or gain a little. and you get some nice respawn

[tacit tulip]

iirc depending on your stats your damage might drop, but at that stage you don't need high damage all that much

Bubo you want to stick with magma cause of money scaling from Wis
new Armour is just better for drop rate/afk fighting tho

[solemn rampart]

Also I hate the new upgrade stones. I'm definitely not alone in this.

[shrewd nexus]

oh yeah those are trash

[cosmic tendon]

I’m nowhere close to this but apparently they’re good for tools if ur willing to recraft

[solemn rampart]

They aren't trash. They're actually good
But that's the worst part.

[shrewd nexus]

yea nah they trash, unless you willing to make like 100 of something

[signal osprey]

Well getting a good tool with them honestly isn't bad

[solemn rampart]

Tools are annoying for me right now since I don't have pealer shells.

[cosmic tendon]

TrollerGod just did on new bow above and got 1/6

[signal osprey]

On average it would take i think 50 tools to get a perfect 6/6 tool and thats including +1 slot

[cosmic tendon]

I think at 4/5 on tool you beat w5 stoning it

[signal osprey]

If you just want a 5/5 or 5/6 its like 10 maybe

And yes getting just 5 upgrades is better than a 6/6 with W5 stones

[solemn rampart]

Also is emperor still the best ring?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[cosmic tendon]

So 10 tool crafts for a couple tool power with some luck u get a decent boost

[shrewd nexus]

ok so they good, but i cant be bothered doing that, so im going t keep assuming they are trash

[signal osprey]

I know the weapons are good to but I haven't bothered mathing out anything because who cares

Ifs juts more damage so meh

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah seems like an endgame thing to me

[signal osprey]

I will definitely be farming tools for those stones

But yeah its kinda minmax

[steep cipher]

i got volumetric food bag on vman with a max food capacity of 1.6m. how do i increase carry capacity enough to hold 2.5m cheese for colossal food bag? maxed storage talents, all capacity stamp is at lvl40 and im slowly working on it

[solemn rampart]

They're faster than the previous tier and got some +respawn.

[tacit tulip]

Just be thankful lava hasn't taken maples 70% scrolls yet

[signal osprey]

I meant using new stones.

[tacit tulip]

the 70% scrolls give same stats as the 60% ones but have a 15% chance to destroy the item 😄

[signal osprey]

Yeah just upgrading to the new weapon is worth it

But I just used W5 stones on em

[bold quiver]

Results from 1h DK at tremor wurms:
From lvl 405 to 423 and 55 keys dropped 13,32DR

[cosmic tendon]

Oh yeah those were epic

[bold quiver]

pretty insane i'd say

[solemn rampart]

The new armor stone gives +1 weapon power.

[signal osprey]

Weapon power isn't a very good stat

Also late game damage as a whole isn't hard to come by

[solemn rampart]

Other than that it's just +3 defense +2 main stat over the w5 stone.

[steep cipher]

aka how do i increase food storage capacity to craft magma food bag?

[signal osprey]

Star signs with doubler and rucksack prayer

[solemn rampart]

There's probably better options but Mr. no sleep star sign could help (+30%)

[tacit tulip]

Starsign, stamp that increases carry cap, prayer that does carry cap, chip that doubles your starsign if you have it

[cosmic tendon]

Shrine pushed a lvl and bag slots

And the gem shop upgrades

For carry cap and bag slots

[steep cipher]

hmmm guess i gotta go do td for prayer and i can get it

[tacit tulip]

the glass stamp is huge for it too

[austere shore]

How do you level the minor bonuses for divinity

[cosmic tendon]

Lvl div

[austere shore]

Thank you!

[steep cipher]

yea mines at lvl40 for now. i need to farm more glass + waiting for daily discount to build up

[signal osprey]

Surely 5k keys will get me my wings for the stupid kruk trophy

[hollow ledge]

what are you looking at for dmg Contract

[solemn rampart]

How good is that Kruk obol btw? I got lucky and found one early. 5% afk gains seems really good.

[signal osprey]

Can only get like 150b on vman so it might be kind of annoying

[spice lion]

Does higher level materials (ex birch vs jungle) give more atoms on conversion?

[signal osprey]

No

[spice lion]

So the best way to get atoms is getting the highest print on the lowest resource

[signal osprey]

Correct

[spice lion]

Ok sick

[hollow ledge]

its why oak samples are so important

also copper but oak is easier to boost

[solemn rampart]

My oak/copper samples are comparable in size (78M oak vs 56M copper) I assume that's normal?

[hollow ledge]

seems accurate to me

[signal osprey]

Yeah assuming roughly equal investment oak will always be higher but copper is still very relevant

[solemn rampart]

I should maybe soon-ish look at how much better my samples have gotten. I haven't changed them since "the gold incident".

[signal osprey]

Assuming you've been upgrading sampling related bonuses it will likely go up quite a bit

[hollow ledge]

im gonna redo my samples after a good week of exlusively alch boosting w/ bubo

[wooden sentinel]

What stats should I have to beat rift 44?

[signal osprey]

Prior to 300m-400m samples you can realistically get a decent resample every 2 weeks if you spend those 2 weeks heavily focusing on sampling bonuses

[cosmic tendon]

Would it be smart for me to start printing only oak and copper if I’m unlocking atom collider in the next day or two?

[viscid sandal]

Once you start hitting the billions in damage, how do people catapult to the trillions? Seems like everything has diminishing gains

[hollow ledge]

atom collider starts very slow. dont expect to get much use out of it at the start. dont wreck your other important prints just for that. your prints will go up over time

[signal osprey]

If thats the boss stage roughly 50b-60b damage should be fine. If thats the Es portal stage then you need like 120b

[cosmic tendon]

Cool thanks I’ll wait for it to strategize any changes

[signal osprey]

Bubbles 1 and 6 are your main alch boosts. Aside from that eclipse skulls are probably the next best damage scaling

[wooden sentinel]

I currently have 43b, any major damage increases I should focus on?

[signal osprey]

You can start by reading the message posted directly above yours

[wooden sentinel]

Oh, thanks

[signal osprey]

Aside from that probably talents I guess. Specifically leveling up attack skills to 200+ helps quite a bit on the boss stages

[sly plank]

I haven't touched rift yet, how much damage / DR do I roughly need to reach rift 16?

[viscid sandal]

appreciate the advice. Just seems so marginal now, so figured there was somethign I was missing

[signal osprey]

Eclipse skulls are a separate multi and the base damage bubbles actually get better the more you level them rather than worse

[frozen prairie]

is there a trick to poing or do i just suck

[viscid sandal]

Interesting, didn't know that about the base dmg bubbles. And yeah the eclipse skulls makes sense if it's per mob

[unkempt arch]

sufficient damage to one shot mobs is all you need imo

[steep cipher]

not much, just try doing it

[sly plank]

what class do people usually push rift with?

[viscid sandal]

seems like a bit of luck too; I spent quite a bit of time getting to ~16k.. the opponent definitely doesn't react the same all the time

[unkempt arch]

DK OR ES bubo only if poison can one shot

[frozen prairie]

i just got to 8.5k 😦

[viscid sandal]

Once you get to 10k+ it seems the best strat is to just launch it sideways and hope for the best. Most times they can't get to it. Sometimes they speed up for no reason lol

[frozen prairie]

i think it's the fact that it just has random lag spikes >.>

im content with ~10k tho

[viscid sandal]

That might be it too

[north juniper]

Just a heads up but there are stages where you have to complete the task on several or even DK alone

But push as far as you can

[sly plank]

thanks for the heads up!

[north juniper]

It's time. To leave. My DK at oranges for those stupid pens 💀

Really the ones you need are civil war + crystal one at bottom right + specialization?

Alright cool deal

[lost depot]

After that you can get mana box and dmg box, good for active

[north juniper]

Gotcha. I haven't looked at the other stats on the mana one but does it matter if you never run out? Or is it for the bubble that increases based off of mana/hp?

[tiny mesa]

active talent cooldown

[north juniper]

Oooooooh

[lost depot]

It gives you cooldown reduction

Its very strong on most characters

But at the same time not a big priority because it's expensive

[north juniper]

Yeah I can definitely use that. Aiming for the first page to just be filled up. I need that second crystal cooldown one on the second page too

[lost depot]

wym?

[rustic garnet]

I'm a bit stuck with points in W5 merit shop

[north juniper]

Right now I have DK crystal farming oranges. But I'd like to get that crystal chance down some more

I have him down to 1/52 with the setup

[north juniper]

As far as priority or just needing more?

[rustic garnet]

I have all of the things unlocked but not the armor stuff

and I'm running out of available 'gets'

I can't kill nightmare on 10 chars yet

and I can't do poing, 777 trade, 75k plants is a while off....

[lyric sequoia]

You're not supposed to round like that game 🤔

[bright current]

i finally hit base 85 on my Vman, still cant push much past 3.5Bil damage

idk how people get him to like 30B to fight nightmare W5 boss

actually cooked

[tacit tulip]

I had to get 200 items from slab to catch up to my bad merit spending lol

[signal osprey]

Alch and eclipse skulls

[rustic garnet]

I have 1300 slab, 1400 nearly impossible

I can't get 1k boats fast, I can't get 32k plants fast... gold nugget is luck

[north juniper]

I mean you'll get there with time. What in particular do you feel like you're missing out on?

[lyric sequoia]

Peoplle have hit 1400 slab

[bright current]

lett me rephrase. i know how from a comceptual perspective, but fuck that a task it is to do

[lost depot]

You might have bricked yourself for a while then, the Stat Overload talent is supposed to be bottom priority

[rustic garnet]

Yeah, but it's very hard, right?

[lyric sequoia]

Endgamers have done it, so yes

[signal osprey]

Not sure where you're at with atoms but if you can afford to level quick slap every day then just do that

[lyric sequoia]

Maxed out the atom pen thing, now to wait 5000 days to max out myriad

[lost depot]

pog

crazy how weak the pen bonus is lol

Did lava add an "open all" for sailing chests yet

or are we still gaming with RSI

[bold quiver]

cant wait to bestrong enough so that i dont see M hits anymore, they are so long

[wild python]

mining sample guide with snapshotts etc?

help

[solemn rampart]

Ok so I think resampling is a good idea at this point. (left is new right is old)

[signal osprey]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084953188647583819

[dim burrow]

how much dmg do u need on vman to do nightmare kattlekruk

[bright current]

like 30B i think is what people are saying

[opaque sun]

200b ish if you want a brainless fight

[dim burrow]

rip

im no where close

i can only do it on my es and bubo

[signal osprey]

You really only need a lot of damage if you want to ignore the moles

[tawdry epoch]

How could i calculate how much dmg my vman would gain per level gains of his lowest, whats the math behind it

[sharp wind]

is it using our pc timezone or is there a specific timezone?

[signal osprey]

It uses your local time

[cosmic tendon]

Does anyone have a ballpark for bb dmg to do superchows?

[opaque sun]

Like id say around 5m/hr kills on gmush

[cosmic tendon]

Is there a ballpark on what dmg ppl were at when they got there or is it a massive range

[signal osprey]

It depends on a lot of factors

[opaque sun]

its more of mk per tier, respawn and afk gain than damage

Damage is just a sub stat of mk per tier

If your multikilling is good, you dont need much damage honestly as the damage tier requirement scales hard

[cosmic tendon]

Does 100m seem way too low for me to try linking, and setting up to see where I’m at

[signal osprey]

If you mean 100m damage then yeah I would assume you wont have a comfortable kph

[opaque sun]

It wont get multikill on later w5 mobs, but will work in older worlds if you have decent kill per hour on say gmush

[cosmic tendon]

Ok thanks, I’ll wait until I can do more at the same time

[opaque sun]

5m/hr on gmush is like a very rough bench mark

[signal osprey]

I think I was around 3m or so and the first 4 worlds still felt pretty easy to candy

[cosmic tendon]

Hmmm ok I’ll still having a hard time deciding if I should setup and try some

[opaque sun]

Like if you are around 3-5m ish, you are fine, but if you are like 100k/hr ish, then you missing something big before doing super chow

[cosmic tendon]

Definitely over 500k and down to use 1k hrs of candy but I don’t wanna setup and only be able to do w1

[sharp wind]

thanks

[cosmic tendon]

I’ll just use collo ladles and do it later, thanks for the feedback

Not in the mood to see it end up with sub-glorious results lol

[sharp wind]

why its different

the level

[crisp silo]

Is building lvls

[split pendant]

constructs are the buildings, not the construction level total

[crisp silo]

Xylo bones arnet in the death note

Its bloodbones

[solid python]

[next locust]

Gz

Big boi gainz for cooking 3.. 2.. 1..

[solid python]

I didnt understand the speedrun lol so I only got 8 portals and have to wait now

I got to planks and didnt know what to do

[sick sentinel]

there's a speedrun in #1084911530417606656 if you want a bit of a guide

or lp_n on youtube has some vids

[next locust]

Yeah most people fail at the planks for their first run

[solid python]

was the portal to gigafrogs what I was going for

cuz it needed 5k kills lol

[crisp silo]

Kill nightnare boss, ez 3 portals

And respawn rate

[solid python]

I couldn't do that cuz I didnt have a point for the skill

[next locust]

Yeah you should just go straight to boss, if you don't have big enough multikill to get giga portal fast

[outer plank]

is BB good with the new buffs? maybe replace second SB?

[sick sentinel]

bb hasnt changed rly

[twilit goblet]

if having 4 man on div/lab, is putting mantra better or just put them on focus to get more points for unlocking new gods?

[outer plank]

true, really only buffs damage

[outer plank]

points over exp almost always, check the pins for a quick guide

[twilit goblet]

got it thanks!

[kind epoch]

Do I want to use mantra if I've been having RNG unluck with God #4? Or stick with Chakra for more div points?

[twilit goblet]

i assume just keep pressing left till 100%?

so div points

[kind epoch]

Yeah that was the strat I was using

[opaque sun]

Only thing the new combust change helped with bb is for him to do super chow at solo mimic in bandit bob map

[tiny dome]

How do you use a subclass swap token? I bought it and it won't let me change.

[sick sentinel]

if you already have an elite class you cant use a subclass token

[tiny dome]

Damn

That's stupid

[opaque sun]

Cant. 250 effect is just known from datamining

[sick sentinel]

gotta hope that the elite class swap token comes back in rotation

[foggy briar]

worth the gamble or do I wait for 100%?

[opaque sun]

expectancywise it doesn’t matter

[sick sentinel]

active farm crystals in w5

but seriously candy exp is smol

not worth the candies

what char

[strong nova]

any your latest map on W5

[sick sentinel]

any map is fine, though ES isnt great for crystals

but ye latest map you can

[opaque sun]

ES is not picky with map layout, so just do any mob with highest base exp that you can kill comfortably

[hoary light]

anyone know why the mega chows aren't counting after I hit 100mil kills on enemies?

[opaque sun]

if its your first bb, its a known bug

[hoary light]

damn yeah you're right it is

bummer

[opaque sun]

the game is bugged to only count your second bb in family. If you use elite swap to change the 2nd bb to DK, it will retroactively count for the first bb

[hoary light]

yeah I don't have an elite swap

and not exactly sure it's worth buying for that

[opaque sun]

pretty much the same issue with having multiple mman as the hands only count for one specific mman

It can be worth to swap, or restart kills on second bb. It gives like 100x - 500x more multiplier to cook speed

[hoary light]

oh geez

[opaque sun]

1.1x^super chowed maps

[hoary light]

I'll look around on my characters and see if i have one

not really using my other BB so I wouldn't mind changing it that badly, thanks for the help!

where do you get the elite swaps? I'm only seeing the subclass swaps which say I can't change BB to DK

[lavish cloak]

Was a time sensitive gem shop item

[leaden karma]

does using arrowhead artifact increases my chances getting this last artifact? its been a few days and i still havent gotten it

[lavish cloak]

"Its been a few days and i havent gotten it" is standard sailing experience.

[opaque sun]

Using chest filter will probably lower the chance actually

As with most things in idleon, more quantity tries are better than few quality tries

[leaden karma]

i only login once a day sometimes twice is it still better not using it?

i pick this chest and my 13 lootpiles get filled up the next day

[opaque sun]

If you have a slow check cycle, and if it gets filled with iron regardless, i guess its okay

But not being able to find artifact kind of explained due to your relatively slow sail claiming intervals

[leaden karma]

ohhhhhh ok that explains it

[wet hatch]

Who should I make my first magma set for? I was thinking vman but it kind of seems like a waste since I would really only need it for a speed run

[sick sentinel]

bubo/es/dk are the usual go tos

[bright current]

do Vman first cuz punching shit is cool

[wise wharf]

oh wow

[wet hatch]

But you'll never get a jackpot lol

[wet hatch]

W why does everyone love bubonic so much?

[sick sentinel]

bubo is useful for money and alch gains

since alch is gated by water regeneration, bubo's cranium cooking skill boosts that by leaps and bounds

[fluid needle]

I have a Lvl 359 Bubonic Conjurer, Lvl 399 Divine Knight, Lvl 356 Beast Master, Lvl 350 and Lvl 365 Blood Berserker, Lvl 363 Elemental Sourcerer, Lvl 361 VoidWalker, Lvl 366 Siege Breaker, and Lvl 100 and Lvl 76 Beginner. What Branch of Archer and Mage should I turn the Beginners into? (edited)
Making one a ES

Should I make the other a Siege Breaker or Beast Master

[sick sentinel]

also applies to the colored cauldrons if chars are in there

2 sb

[fluid needle]

Forgot the command to show recomended class order

[sick sentinel]

2bm is the worst combo right now

[fluid needle]

Okay

Also is it worth trying to complete all W1 W2 W3 etc quests on each character

[sick sentinel]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml#
this has teh char creation list and some other useful stuff

not rly, if you want the rewards from it sure but its your time and up to you

[fluid needle]

Thanks was looking for that

[sick sentinel]

just make sure you do teh key quests on all chars

[fluid needle]

Okay

Whelp time to just do the classes on the characters and worry about quests tomorrow

[sick sentinel]

[fluid needle]

I have put off my 9th and tenth characters since the release of W3 boss..... I dont want to make any mistakes]

[fallow aurora]

I got the rare variant before the normal one

[wise wharf]

true

[fluid needle]

Nice

[wise wharf]

wasnt even close

[fluid needle]

Any Power amounts to do arcade on or tips or just all RNG

[opaque sun]

grind time is effectively bubo’s “power of 10 kills” type of family boost

[fallow aurora]

CC only gives liquid time not brewing time right?

[modern plaza]

12hrs on bloods
it's not much compared to the pro's but it's gonna make a huge difference

[fluid needle]

Bloods?

[modern plaza]

its gives all time but sigils

[fluid needle]

I can see you have the cookie Chip or something along the lines

[fallow aurora]

ty

[modern plaza]

yes i had to gamba for it

[fluid needle]

Ouch and lucky, I haver to wait until december

Thats when the next rotatioin for it is

[fallow aurora]

same

[modern plaza]

seriously??? seems a bit slow tbh

[fluid needle]

I wish there was a way to see stats such as "How many arcade ball used" and such

I have used so many and havent gotten a stamp yet but then again the chances are very low

[tiny laurel]

Do ES portal mobs have DRs or are they just higher hp and xp with no DR

[fluid needle]

The "& Drop" Is the drop rate

Using it ES Rn to get 10mil Green stacks to increase total dmg from lab

[wise wharf]

first nightmare kattlec
ruk

huge

[sick sentinel]

damn niice

[hollow wagon]

My friend got the jackpot 2 days after he got to w2 I have been playing for around 2 years and I still haven't gotten it

[heavy moth]

gratz

[fading dust]

Just got vman and my BB working on W1 chows now. What should be my next big goal? 🤔

[dim burrow]

should i disable viaduct of the gods in lab if im low

[bleak gazelle]

Anyone know what distance the w4 connection range merit equates to per level?

[rose fulcrum]

What should I use between mantra and vitalic? I put 7 character on divinity now and only have 3 god.

[opaque sun]

why not use both

Vitalic on your rather div focused guys, and mantra on your other guys

Just my preference, but i made like 2 guys that solely focused on his own exp and others that helped those two to rush to a better style

[echo crag]

depend on if you want to rush god or div lvl really

[rose fulcrum]

Maybe i have to rush goat first? need to lvl my lab too

[echo crag]

focus would give more div pts then

[dim burrow]

anyone mind showing me their bubo skill hotbar

[oak hemlock]

Guys how much dmg i need on maestro for nightmare w5 boss?

[floral swift]

It ain’t letting me send a pic but I run raise dead, chemical warfare, flatulent spirit, auspicious aura, sizzling skull

[opaque sun]

Around like 30-50b to kill in a timely fashion, 200b to kill with vman brainlessly

[simple void]

4 skills is sufficient.
Raise dead. Aura. Chemical. Fart spirit.

[floral swift]

Does king doot activate locked divinity gods or do you still need to unlock all of them

[severe maple]

You get access to all of them, but the puma one requires only 1 person to link to it

[dreamy merlin]

without choco chip is there rlly any reason to crystal farm

especially with like 1/150crystal chance

[severe maple]

Have your maestro kill the crystals every day anyway

You get crystals of first kill per day from a few sources

Merit board and sigils

[dreamy merlin]

i always forget abt those and end up spawning them out of nowhere

[dreamy merlin]

i dont have either of those,just w5 achieve

[severe maple]

The w4 merit board has crystals per day

[dreamy merlin]

who would ever put points into that until the end

[severe maple]

Getting it once is nice early on, then max it later

[floral swift]

Thanks man

[dreamy merlin]

why would i waste my precious merits on 1 useless crystal

[severe maple]

…. You get more than you can spend anyway

Crystals = % less exp required per level for skills on maestro

[dreamy merlin]

im far earlier in the game than you must think

[opaque sun]

then dont spend in it yet

[dreamy merlin]

ik

[severe maple]

Doot is why so many of the endgame players have abandoned the game
It’s so OP

[sharp timber]

How do I get captains that are just not red bandana's? Level 25 and still have not seen a different captain

[dreamy merlin]

luck

[severe maple]

It happens over time, what they look like doesn’t matter as much as the stats and how high they roll

[dreamy merlin]

looks=better stats

bc logic

[severe maple]

Not really, I have the basic looking captains with better base than the purple ghost captains

[modern plaza]

after having doot for a few weeks, i can tell you it's not as OP as players think

it's really good for new players tho i must admit, but endgamers it not as OP as one may think

[opaque sun]

you just haven’t used him correctly

[dreamy merlin]

dif captains just increase max so that makes sense

[sharp timber]

I am probably consider early game but the AFK gains for sailing etc when claiming is insane for progress

[modern plaza]

absolutely! but yes there is PO Box and the Alchemy Bubbles and the Golden Food that gives Sailing Progress too

so a nice 25-30% chance for sailing gains, Doots is thicc when you don't have these tho 🙂

Doot made me realize what i was missing, so I've been grinding away at all the other sources

[sharp timber]

Hits good when you AFK in lab for 10 hours and get 10 hours sailing progress too

[modern plaza]

once you get the other ways to proc it, you'll get a few procs of sailing or gaming haha

like log in get a nice 2x proc haha

[north juniper]

ES or DK for Obol farming?

Particularly those pesky POP bubbles at gigachadfrogs

[modern plaza]

ES for Pops, DK for Dice

pops are super slow btw

compares to Dice, so just keep grinding

[north juniper]

Yeah so far I've only nabbed 4 in the last hour or so

[modern plaza]

oh wow 4? that's a lot for an hour

[north juniper]

That definitely makes me feel better lol. I threw in some crystal farming too for pens. Might as well knock out 2 birds with 1 stone.

[modern plaza]

absolutely, i went to snelbs on my dk and got so much dice and pretty good pen drop rate

[north juniper]

Right after I get these pop obols situated I'm going right back there too

It's sooooo good

[modern plaza]

not enough frags to reroll all the dice, have to trash them too lol

[north juniper]

So that's one thing I really haven't looked into. What's generally the reroll strategy?

[pearl cedar]

Mid-late game, re-roll for +1 misc.

[opaque sun]

for misc reroll in their cheapest form to save frags as misc can only roll a +1 regardless of obol tier

[pearl cedar]

Endgame re-roll for max stat and +1 misc

[modern plaza]

Reroll at the lowest tier (get the +1% DR)... put that one into the left slot and combine it with not optimal obols... now u dont need to reroll it at all until you wanna minmax for other stats

[north juniper]

Gotcha. But I could go back and reroll the final obols later? Like silver pop bubbles for example

[north juniper]

I see

[opaque sun]

If you want to min max the main stats yes, but costs more frags of course

[north juniper]

Right now I'm charging the full family pop board. My DR has been hovering around 5.5

[modern plaza]

yeah i was about 5.5, built that up and a bit on the personal one, gots nice 7x till some other miracle happens lol

[north juniper]

That sounds pretty nice. I see some peeps mentioned 13 which is mind blowing

[pearl cedar]

13 kinda low now

[modern plaza]

i really dont see where to get the other 6x... yeah easy 15x with the new boss items 😄

[north juniper]

Ah right the new equips

[pearl cedar]

18x on vman

[north juniper]

I'm just sad I couldn't pick the lucky lad up

[modern plaza]

i thought only Odd numbers actually count, is that a myth??

[north juniper]

I added the dang monster material to my filter list so it doesn't lag out this time

[modern plaza]

oh they start to roll in

[north juniper]

I'm sure someone is trying to green stack them LOL

[pearl cedar]

Odd numbers are for money breakpoints, some items have different break points, not all items will reach break points due to being 1 in 3k or whatever

[modern plaza]

would be cool if you could combine them to increase the DR on it by 1%, but would require just as strong of another Lucky Lad to combine it up to the next 1% and so on... would take 1000 just to get it to like 17% lol