lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[tacit tulip]

just craft bullets to get to 100+ smithing in a few mins

[glacial venture]

from 71 onwards you can craft w5 bullets for exp

[cosmic tendon]

Still might as well hit mastery

[brazen hound]

Im crafting void mining bags. got millions of ores and they are like 20k each

[untold saffron]

finally plat starred dr def

[glacial venture]

up to 71 soulgums are good exp

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah void bags are pretty cheap for all chars as a base until you need bigger

[tacit tulip]

yeah soul gum til 71, bullets to 100, you don't really need exp in anvil at all anymore

[cosmic tendon]

Where do u unlock tab 5 bullets from?

[brazen hound]

bullets to 100? this recipe?

[sick sentinel]

W5 bullets

[cosmic tendon]

Who holds secret recipe?

[brazen hound]

w5 bullets? but.. but. there is no w5 smithing tab in the game yet

[tacit tulip]

fat moles drop it, pretty sure

[opaque sun]

you can go full exp, craft w5 bullets, and repec back to speed

[sick sentinel]

I think its fire spirits

[untold saffron]

I should really green stack this

[cosmic tendon]

There is tab 5

[brazen hound]

!

[somber sparrow]

start with fmj bullets first 😄

[tacit tulip]

checked wiki, def fat moles

[glacial venture]

1 of these bullets gives about 3 or 4m exp

[sick sentinel]

My memory has failed me

[opaque sun]

you can make soul gums and sort meanwhile

[brazen hound]

I was told there are only 4 smithing tabs when I asked like a week ago 😦

[somber sparrow]

depends heavily on your account progress

[tacit tulip]

ooh they did you dirty, w5 tabs been here since w5 so...december

[somber sparrow]

i get 7,7m without skilling preset/cards

[cosmic tendon]

5 has been out for a while

[opaque sun]

if you asked around in w4 chat, they only have 4 tabs

[somber sparrow]

for every world thats out, theres a smithing tab - pretty easy XD

[cosmic tendon]

W5 no unlocks tho

task board section

[tacit tulip]

yeah not sure what he's gonna do there. Usually the weapons are there, but they're kattle

[cosmic tendon]

Don’t spend to get it unless u can farm w5

[glacial venture]

speaking of w5 and smithing...seems like boss gear is tailored for chars without respawm mechanic

[tacit tulip]

more importantly, don't get w5 tab if you can't make the second w4 gear

[opaque sun]

its more of an afk gear

[cosmic tendon]

And there was some bb balance attempt in update

[opaque sun]

Respawn is basically a slightly less powerful but more wider application fight afk gain

[vocal ibex]

I'm trying to sample batteries, I need them for the splicer.

[somber sparrow]

good luck

[cosmic tendon]

Try es and filter the main drop

[opaque sun]

divine is slightly less powerful than magma, but the misc offers utility in the jobs that requires it

[brazen hound]

wait what. u can sample rare drops like batteries?

[somber sparrow]

if you succeed tell me how u did it

[glacial venture]

making bb clear mobs faster doesnt really help a lot

[tough tusk]

xd tell me when you succeed

[brazen hound]

so if I just spam sample a few hours eventually Ill get battery samples?

[opaque sun]

Cant sample rares, just a joke

[tough tusk]

sure

[tough tusk]

give it a try

[shrewd nexus]

it works on frisbees so it has to work on batteries (/s)

[sick sentinel]

Only top left item on card

[somber sparrow]

how many reacts do you want? XD

[tacit tulip]

When sampling you only get the top left item in the card

[cosmic tendon]

It needs 1 more hour than ur willing to spend

[opaque sun]

Frisbee is a normal mat with bad base rate, its basically same as blood bones

[shrewd nexus]

please note that /s means sarcasm

[vocal ibex]

Man this gona take a shile

[tough tusk]

guys stop it, give him some false hope

[cosmic tendon]

wood shrooms are the blood bone of w1

[normal moth]

is there an achievement that gives 50 gems and 1 24 hr candy? i check my bubos inventory when i just deposited all not too long ago at wurms and i get 50 gems and a 24 hr candy

[opaque sun]

Just wanted to clarify since it was brought into topic, and dont want noobs spreading misinformation like gen chat

[tacit tulip]

sounds about right

[vocal ibex]

Just take it and be happy

[normal moth]

and no its not giant monsters

[opaque sun]

candy could have been some lucky giant drop

[vocal ibex]

Unlike me I have to go farm batteries for days

[somber sparrow]

giants drop more than 1 candy tho

[shrewd nexus]

so is everyone still farming w5 boss keys?

[tacit tulip]

most of the achievements that give gems/candy are steam achievements, see if you unlocked one

[normal moth]

i dont have the giant monster bubble equipped and its still a 1.01m chance

[opaque sun]

nobody should be done with boss keys yet

[normal moth]

ah it could be that, thank you!

i remember seeing a steam achievement a while ago

[opaque sun]

At most, should be around 2-3 capes

[tacit tulip]

I don't see one for 50 gems and a 24 hour candy, but this looks to be the list

[normal moth]

i got the 20k guild GP achievement a bit ago

i dont see this anywhere in tasks though, could be a secret achievement? unless im blind

cant post pics yet lol

[tacit tulip]

chat a bit, doesn't take long 😄

[normal moth]

yea its copper bar i know

[shrewd nexus]

why does our hair keep growing? cant it work out that its jsut going to get cut

[opaque sun]

say that to a bald guy

[shrewd nexus]

mb

[wild python]

finally after I stopped trying

[somber sparrow]

how much approx dmg does a vman need for nkattle?

[shrewd nexus]

enough to kill a mole and a lot of time, anything beyond that is more a question of how fast

[tacit tulip]

Huh you're right, that achievement isn't listed in game. That's probably the source.

[untold saffron]

51 portals that vman run, 4 more than last time 📈

[pulsar cliff]

I did it with 70b

[shrewd nexus]

whats your main doing, fi your vman is on 70b?

[untold saffron]

1milli kills to go for ruby cards

[opaque sun]

10b for a tedious fight,
50b ish for a soso long fight, 200b if you want a brainless fight

[somber sparrow]

gonna be tedious then XD

[pulsar cliff]

When I'm kitted for all out dmg? 800b ish.

It's a work in progress haha.

Got the cape. Now just need the stupid neckalce.

[shrewd nexus]

nice, im only just breaking 100b

[glacial venture]

killing nm w5 boss on 10 chars will be a "nightmare".....

[pulsar cliff]

So little needs that kind of fire power right now so it's not hugely useful except for this

@glacial venture es lol. Vman was awful. So was BB actuall.

[glacial venture]

so far i only killed it with dk

when statue can kill moles its basicly brainless....no matter the dmg

[pulsar cliff]

DK ES and Bubo were braindead

[glacial venture]

as long as statue lasts long enough

[pulsar cliff]

With the VMan ability you usually have a pretty significant overlapy

[glacial venture]

so....basicly dk is perfect for it

[pulsar cliff]

yup

It's who I run right now

[glacial venture]

so sad that orb cant be feed with summoned moles^^

[pulsar cliff]

Would be so busted lmao

[opaque sun]

i also tested on BB to kill those moles like for 30min, but can confirm they dont count for zow

[pulsar cliff]

Lowest I've eard anyone doing it is around 30b

[dreamy merlin]

why is there a red ! next to family bonus

[devout schooner]

is 245 the absolute maximum book value atm? at the w3 library I mean

[glacial venture]

from library yes

[dreamy merlin]

yep

[opaque sun]

if it can one shot the mole, it theoretically can be done at any damage. Assuming its a class with a good clearing talents

[devout schooner]

rip 250 skill enhance

[brazen hound]

does the capacity number mean.. that I can have 17382 cords in the white box? coz that would take me a week to fill

[pulsar cliff]

That's true, sorry. I think in my head whenever I hear min damage my brain inserted it as a Vman question

[devout schooner]

yea

[brazen hound]

thats generous space. put 0 points into that stat

[opaque sun]

Give them a better mat bag if you want cap

[devout schooner]

has anyone managed to beat nightmare kattlekrunk on a vman yet?

[glacial venture]

equip bubble, more agi, lvl speed , town skill speed help with that

[opaque sun]

The capacity is mostly determined by your material bag size

[brazen hound]

capacity number is related to your mat bag?!

[pulsar cliff]

I personally have but I know quite a few

[glacial venture]

yes

[devout schooner]

I assume you just gotta dps him down before all the moles get to him? I only have like 75b range on my vman so Im a LONG way off

[pulsar cliff]

Oh no friend, that's more dmg than I had.

[glacial venture]

whip and vman aoe help

[opaque sun]

you can manually control vman to kill the moles to buy time

[devout schooner]

so its just a longass fight of micromanaging?

[wild python]

Is Krunk better then magma?

[pulsar cliff]

I posted it on the reddit page what I did, but you're going to be DPS'ing after you use the AOE, and then alternating sides a LOT.

[devout schooner]

Im doing the nightmare on all 10 board mission atm

[opaque sun]

punch moles so that it doesnt touch kattle, use void radius and punch kattle, then repeat again punching moles

[glacial venture]

only did nm on dk so far

[pulsar cliff]

Whip, coin, and auto are to keep moles away until you can void, beat up kattle until moles come back, rinse repeat.

[glacial venture]

but the good point of dk is....just press auto^^

[opaque sun]

remember to do the mole quest first before doing any major nm farming

[devout schooner]

yea I don't like trying to aim coin on pc lol

[opaque sun]

Would be a pain to get a cape drop on a char that doesnt have the quest activated

[pulsar cliff]

Exactly lol

[devout schooner]

oh I'm already 10/10 get the cape drop

[glacial venture]

there is a quest to get cape drop?

[pulsar cliff]

Last quest from the mole.

[devout schooner]

not 10 dropped, I just mean all 10 have that quest

[pulsar cliff]

First it's moles, then crawlers, then get the cape and equip the scarf

[opaque sun]

the trophy quest requires to wear and enter mole zone with divine scarf, and also get a unique cape drop on that character

[modest warren]

is there like a good level of grind time to stop at or should i just keep using all of my liquid on it

[opaque sun]

The cape itself is like whatever stat, but the trophy is bis trophy

[pulsar cliff]

I'm at 3 obols and 1 cape, no neck so far

[glacial venture]

wiki doesnt have this npc yet?

[dense crater]

Do you have to get cape on every char or is one enough?

[opaque sun]

unique drop on each char

1 cape, 1 trophy

[sick sentinel]

Search tired

[glacial venture]

just did

[dreamy merlin]

wiki does

?wiki Tired_Mole

[glacial venture]

but what i saw.....for quest only real kills count for quest....

[verbal canyon]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Tired_Mole

[opaque sun]

For the scarf, you only need one scarf to complete that objective on everyone by just entering mole zone while its equipped

[sick sentinel]

Afk kills count multikill and such

Active only real kills

[glacial venture]

thats what i saw

so...basicly a pure afk quest

[sick sentinel]

Pretty much

[opaque sun]

mostly afk quest

other kill related quest like suggma also only counts base kills when active

[glacial venture]

really?

[sick sentinel]

Mmhmm

[tulip lark]

did mine yesterday with 23bil

[sick sentinel]

As long you you one shot mobs with autos and whip you can do it

[untold saffron]

worth keeping a set of MK obols for vman runs?

[opaque sun]

the flat mk, not really

[sick sentinel]

Prob not

[opaque sun]

Hyper obol from fomo shop, yes

[untold saffron]

ight, i have two of the hyper MK's

[swift hatch]

is the kattlekruk armor worse than the magma set? not sure if it's really a upgrade or more of a sidegrade

[sick sentinel]

Sidegrade

Good bonuses for afk fighting or some extra drop rate

[opaque sun]

its a utility sidegrade

just look at the misc and if the misc doesn’t apply to the job you intend to do, use magma

[swift hatch]

yeahh fair enough lol

[vocal ibex]

How to get more than 3 tickets for colosseum

[swift hatch]

you don't.

[sick sentinel]

Post office 6

[vocal ibex]

Post office 6?

[sick sentinel]

Reroll til u get a ticket

Order 6

[vocal ibex]

Ah

[sick sentinel]

Cosmic whatever

[vocal ibex]

Okay thank you

[swift hatch]

not a way to increase daily tho

[opaque sun]

post office 6 gives colo tickets as reward

Around 1/10 ish chance for ticket to appear as a reward

Since po6 order’s cost scales quite steep, you use lot of pens and only do orders with ticket rewards. Then reset the streak (around 20 to 30)

[stone gazelle]

What’s the most annoying stamp to level up to use my 95% off on

[deft grail]

ones that ask for rare drops or other hard to farm stuff like Golden Food or Carry Cap

or once u really push the W5 ones to the point where u need the cost reduction to level it further, like when u need 100M Dandelion Flies for the Skill Eff stamp

[pliant depot]

Do I want 2 bubos or 2 es?

[sick sentinel]

If you dont have doot 2 es for god shenanigans. If you have doot its kind of up to you but imo 2 es is still slightly better.

And charge rate with 2 es is a bit better

[pliant depot]

I do have doot. I was thinking about the charge rate, thank you.

[opaque sun]

2 bubo has some uses but not mandatory

[dreamy merlin]

what benefits could even come from 2 bubo

[opaque sun]

faster alchemy level, the original 2 shamans in mman in the same pot trio

[bold quiver]

there isnt

[bold quiver]

but why would u want faster alchemy level tho

1 bubo already has infinite liquid

[opaque sun]

its more of “why not”

[bold quiver]

but more of what

[dreamy merlin]

why not is bc other classes are better lol

[bold quiver]

1 already give u infinite water, faster alchemy for what and what lol

[opaque sun]

shorter bubo active to switch to other faster

[bold quiver]

? how

u gotta stay active to spam CC

[opaque sun]

more regen means you spend less time ccing

[bold quiver]

i feel like you dont actualy cc on a bubo yet to be saying that

[opaque sun]

Meaning you get to spend more time on other non bubo active

[bold quiver]

O.O

[dreamy merlin]

no...

[opaque sun]

with shit regen say it takes 3 cc to fill cauldron, with better regen it becomes 2 cc

[bold quiver]

bubo can already cc every 15-20 minutes, and each cc provids 330/350k alchemy

i feel like u dont know what u are talking about dude haha

[dreamy merlin]

yea no reason for 2 if tent eye alr shortens cc fast anyway

I still wish i could get 200+ tent

[bold quiver]

every bubo player knows that 2nd bubo was only ever created for lab slave at w4

[opaque sun]

Im not advocating to do 2 bubo

[bold quiver]

u are talking about benefits of 2 bubo without knowing what u are talking about

[opaque sun]

But just saying there is some use to it if you look for

[bold quiver]

thats what im sayinglol

There isnt, if u played bubo CC u would know that what u are saying doesnt even make sense

[opaque sun]

what part am i wrong

[pliant depot]

does 2nd god linking on es matter if I have doot? Like is there any benefit?

[dreamy merlin]

no linking doesnt matter at all if you have doot

[pliant depot]

cool thank you

[opaque sun]

2 bubo gets slightly faster levels, which adds some regen, which makes each cc fill faster

[bold quiver]

poor ES bless his soul

[opaque sun]

Yes cc is fast enough already

for some people, making each cc session a bit shorter may or may not help them

[dreamy merlin]

why would you ever waste time on cc

[opaque sun]

you dont cc?

shorter cc session means you need to do less cc to get full liquid

Like say cut down 3 cc to 2 cc to fill liquid and go back doing active dk or something 10 min earlier

[brisk bane]

Does respawn time make a big differences in KpH when having 20+ MK?

[opaque sun]

If your liquid cap is shit and only takes 1 cc to fill, then thats that

Btw im not saying to put the 2 bubo in liquid. It just needs to be in sigil for the exp

[gusty steeple]

ES or Vman for using candies for rare mob drops?

[pliant depot]

im almost to the end of w5 on most of my characters and almost have enough to upgrade my anvil to IV lol

I think I did it wrong

[opaque sun]

if rare drops, vman

multi kill doesnt do anything for rare drops

[modern plaza]

but not advocating against it either lol

no matter what we’ll probably only have enough space for 1 of each elite class long term!? or maybe 2 of one specific one in each class

[opaque sun]

2 bubo and 2 ES has smaller decrepancy than say choosing 2 bm over 2 sb

[lavish cloak]

how do i kill kattlekruk nightmare on maestro? moles heal him faster than i can aoe them

[cosmic tendon]

I’ve been wondering how many classes well end up with

[modern plaza]

oh shit imagine 2 bm

[cosmic tendon]

Big dmg, so I’ve heard

[sick sentinel]

Only focus moles then when ur aoe goes off get some boss hits in

[opaque sun]

If the road map saying 3+ elites and 3+ elites mean a branching elite, then possibly 13

If lava just couldnt think of something like “master class” instead of elites, 7 classes i suppose

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah my read on it is that there was some thought on it being 10 each with 1 more progression

Unknown which elites would fork i only 1/2 of each main class do

[opaque sun]

Whichever 3 that gets elite+ in w7 is going to suck than those that gets in w8

[cosmic tendon]

I think they’d all get it in w6 or 7

[opaque sun]

road map

[cosmic tendon]

I don’t think that’s what that means

[torn thorn]

Hmm, Im at a point where im unsure what to do.. Anymore :/

[opaque sun]

#💖future-content-blog message

[cosmic tendon]

Pretty sure that’s the order he’s working on it

[opaque sun]

Maybe elite might be added for everyone in w7, but with empty talents for those for w8

[torn thorn]

Where the hell is the trophy drop?

[cosmic tendon]

Yeah or u can’t get it yet but it’ll be patched to the same w6/7 npc

[opaque sun]

Quest

[sick sentinel]

Which one? New one is from the boss door npc

[torn thorn]

ah the idle on outside the entrance?

[undone steeple]

does idleon insight No Bubble Left Behind indicator not take into account atom collider?
how does the 15% chance from the atom collider work?

[opaque sun]

The 3rd quest of the mole

3rd quest requires you to wear the divine scarf once (basically a check to see all your characters can kill nm kattle), and also get a unique cape drop on each character

[torn thorn]

yeah, Been farming keys last day or two, Guess ill get through the quest. Im on the last task but just a few merits short.. xD

[opaque sun]

Dont do major NM grinding before taking on the 3rd quest as if the cape drops on a character without the quest, it doesnt count towards the quest progress

[torn thorn]

...

Well good thing it hasnt dropped. Ill just farm out chaotics for the obol then

[dreamy merlin]

i meant why would you not finish it mb,and just spend the liquid

also i dont cc bc my bubo is shit

[opaque sun]

well active farming on DK and ES got other benefits that active bubo cant offer, and you would use liquid to do hourly bubble clicks

Like you dont have to use all liquids instantly

Do bubo cc, fill liquid (buy liquid shop gems and refill again if you want) switch to DK and do hourly bubble clicks, change back to bubo when liquid starts to dry

[solemn yarrow]

Ay guys, i just came back from a break of.. since w4 launched, could someone tell me which star talents to level up, i cant rmb how this all works

[opaque sun]

Thats too vague as you use star talents for different purposes

[solemn yarrow]

Yeah, well where should i look into star talent builds

[amber rune]

is alch chances supposed to not give u a bubble after 30 tries

[opaque sun]

id say just leave it as it is until you start to remember what stats are good

[sick sentinel]

Rng be rng

[opaque sun]

Star talents are mostly supplementary and not something to center around

Only noticeable game changer is hemoglobin i guess for combat which you should already have

[amber rune]

i know rng is rng but how tf am i luck asf with mage cauldron and the yellow one than i am with warrior and archer i mean i got the last bubble on mage cauldron from 15 away while i was 4 away on warrior bubble

[sick sentinel]

Good luck and bad luck, everyone went through it

[amber rune]

and its gona takes a month to get to island 13 to get the material i need to even upgrade the last mage bubble

im unlocking island 11

75m out of 120m

[little harbor]

just came back to the game after ~280 day break. just walked into world 5. just put everyone in divinity?

[somber sparrow]

sheesh how? XD i just tried with 25m but running back and forth with the moles leaves me no time to attack boss

[runic girder]

Does kattlecruk armor use smoldering armor?

[glacial venture]

yes

[runic girder]

Alright

[solemn yarrow]

I have one char still not having cattleprod's quests done, how do i restart his quests

[royal cliff]

Click quick ref press quests and click on the quest and press end quest and click cattleprod again

[tropic kiln]

do I use kattle or magma while farming rare drops with es

[tulip lark]

treat it as "phases" - utilize void radius as your "damage phase" and when it's down it's the "add clear phase"

[sick sentinel]

Helm and boots would help with drops

[tropic kiln]

thanks

[tulip lark]

it takes about 20-30min at 23bil from my experience (I had 1 mistake and he got a heal off, so maybe could be faster)

[sick sentinel]

Kattle i mean

[tropic kiln]

ye I understood

and chestplate/leggings for sb afk kills right

[sick sentinel]

Pretty much

[tropic kiln]

👍

[outer slate]

So as someone whose new to World 5, I just got a couple artifacts. Are these active all the time, or is there something I'm missing and these are attained, just not active?

[dreamy merlin]

always active

[opaque sun]

its active all the time, but the X% bonus needs map change to update when newly obtained

[outer slate]

Okay, thanks.

[coral goblet]

does this only apply to my hunter for arena?

[silver moon]

Are boss keys for this world drops like w4 or whenever I get here, how are they obtained?

[tulip lark]

same as w4, but by 3 different mobs instead of only 1

[opaque sun]

The unlimited tries is for hunter with during the buff duration

its an active buff

The passive pet damage i think was family wide, but not entirely sure

[coral goblet]

yeah its that passive im unsure on

[opaque sun]

its not like you do arena on non-BM

[umbral tapir]

so I shouldn't bother attempting nightmare at this point?

[tulip lark]

if your whip can fists can 1 shot moles

anything beyond those one shotting just cuts the time it takes lol

[umbral tapir]

If my what can what?

[tawdry steeple]

2b on es can probably do it

[tulip lark]

oh that's ES

i'm sure ES can do it just fine

it'll just take a while

I thought you were asking about Vman

[sharp wind]

dont try it

[umbral tapir]

Oooh, ha...mine has barely crossed 120mil DMG at this point.

[sharp wind]

ill do nightmare with DK 7000M-9000M 30 minutes

[opaque sun]

non-vman can theoretically auto it to death if given enough time

[tulip lark]

yeah....it should just be able to auto and leave all the skills on the bar

but I don't see why you'd rush it if your damage is that low anyway.

[umbral tapir]

Maybe I'll hold off until I've got a bit more dmg

[opaque sun]

Bb might allow some straggler moles touch kattle, but for most part he too is auto able

[tulip lark]

BB I had to run back and forth

similar to Vman lol

[opaque sun]

vman needs manual control if attempting to do at below 100b damage

[sharp wind]

is divine scarf need the last merit? im at 7/9 merit now

[opaque sun]

scarf needs all merit

[tulip lark]

it is the last craft recipe

[opaque sun]

Which basically asks to kill nm on a vman

[sharp wind]

need cattlecruk 10 to have that right?

i already done 9

[tulip lark]

what ever the last one

the one that asks you to kill with all characters

[sharp wind]

yep its gonna be a long time

before i have that

yeah

[dapper prism]

Rip afk 😦
https://i.imgur.com/14xjXAr.png

[pulsar cliff]

I did the exact same thing after my NM runs. Butchered gear around and left a few idling in town 😦

[bleak gazelle]

coulda been 2 years 🙃

[dapper prism]

lol never

[pine pond]

Oh no

I finally got my vman done

So thankful

Then all I get are these stupid things

[pulsar cliff]

Grats!!

[dapper prism]

I need to farm me some of those xD

[pulsar cliff]

I have four of those, 1 cap, no necklace 😐

[pine pond]

50+ bosses down

[dapper prism]

50 nightmare?

[pine pond]

Yep

Most likely more

[pulsar cliff]

jesus

[pine pond]

Think I may hoard keys for a few days and try again ngl

Love looking back on previous gains

To see how much you exploded

[tiny dome]

Is godshard ore just not a thing yet? Wiki says unknown

[zealous niche]

Not a thing yet, quite a few portals in the mining area lead nowhere yet

[silver moon]

Is vman capable of being a main character or is it just kind of meh?

[sick sentinel]

mainly support

[silver moon]

Such a fun class though

What do people typically main?

[sick sentinel]

not too many mains rly since all classes are needed to play and boost different areas

this is how people divide the rolls up

[silver moon]

Thanks for the info.

[pine pond]

support

[silver moon]

I saw in the last patch notes there is going to be more elite classes in w7 and 8.
Has there been any optics on these or have they been data mined?

[glacial venture]

can you datamine lavas head?

[sick sentinel]

you can at least see the possible names and logos on the wiki under classes or something like that

[simple palm]

Dont even think lava knows yet about the skills tbh

[glacial venture]

w7 or w8 are sooooooooooo far away

[simple palm]

Yea, im guessing around summer next year

[zealous niche]

I’m expecting later tbh

[glacial venture]

we dnt even have full w5.....

[pine pond]

wym we dont?

[modest pawn]

The helmet from w5 boss is a downgrade, right?

[vagrant mountain]

colosseum

[glacial venture]

do you see an arena?^^

[pine pond]

i dont think he'll add one but maybe

[sick sentinel]

are we gonna get one? we donno

[opaque sun]

The silhouette of the family tree suggests he might be using wind walker and other data-mined assets, but lava can change his mind anytime

[simple palm]

I think there will only be one more utdate to w5 then, w6

[vagrant mountain]

would be the first world without colosseum

[sick sentinel]

sidegrade, good for scenerios you want drop rate

[opaque sun]

Like void walker wasnt any part of the data mined stuff, but got added out of the blue

[dapper prism]

wasnt it just a name change mainly?

[simple palm]

I honestly liked the name virtuoso better.. matches more with maestro

[loud isle]

Is there any specific skill I should focus on for Divine Knight? Leveling is very slow compared to Elemental Sorcerer

[sick sentinel]

orb

[loud isle]

just max points in orb in the furthest map I can do in W5?

[modest pawn]

is this enough to star doing eclipse skulls or to early yet to make it worth it?

[loud isle]

Depends how long you want to spend doing it

[sick sentinel]

yup, and have any crystal chacne stuff on you since those give you the bulk of your exp

[bold quiver]

ez farming, 6 boss kills gg guys see u at w6

[sick sentinel]

just in case you have it dont go over 267 points in orb

[loud isle]

Didn't have any crystal stuff set up, am a fool. Thanks 🙂

[frigid sundial]

Why's that?

[loud isle]

I am only like 155 max, need to up that. But why not 267? just pointless?

[sick sentinel]

thats the sweet spot so orb doesnt overlap

if it does it resets your orb when the new one gets placed and the other disappears

[frigid sundial]

Gotcha

[loud isle]

ah so too quick of a cooldown then

[opaque sun]

A 5m/hr gmush took me few thousand candies to eclipse w1-w4, 2.2m on frogs will probably take like 3x more candies

[sick sentinel]

yeah weird interaction that we guess hasnt been looked at yet

[loud isle]

thanks a mil

[opaque sun]

the current auto AI like recasts orb when current duration is around 5 secs left. So in total overlap orb wastes like 10 secs

later on as more book levels are added to off set the 10 sec loss, it would be good again to max the orb talent

[modest pawn]

noted, I might wait a bit then since I have saved like 3k hours on candies, ty

[opaque sun]

You can send the guy on each map and check the /hr kills to get a rough estimate on how many hours (candies) it will take

[modern plaza]

thank god you had the 3rd part of the quest chain right?

[noble mesa]

U can start even on some mobs , its more kph and more dmg , do like 6 mobs and its 30% more dmg

So the more u do u will gain more and make it ezyer do to more

[opaque sun]

2.2m/hr still sounds rough to spending candies tho

[modern plaza]

is it multiplicative?

[noble mesa]

Yes

[modern plaza]

like additive and then multiple

[opaque sun]

The damage is additive withits self, but the final bonus is an independent damage pool

[modern plaza]

wow 🤩

[noble mesa]

I started on 3.6 on gmash , i did 6 mobs for now

[opaque sun]

2.2m on frogs mean much less on gmush

[noble mesa]

So noce 30% dmg boost

[modern plaza]

dang that’s so nice. 1b kills through to world five is like 3x multiplier forever…

what was the multikill for 1b? or is it only up to 100m

[opaque sun]

Later on eclipsing w6+ will feel like a smaller boost in relative to your damage at the time, but still nice

[noble mesa]

100m 10 points 1b 20 points

[modern plaza]

yeah true it will always be smaller… unlike the vials boost 🙂

[modern plaza]

wow huge difference

so that also helps a lot too

[noble mesa]

Yep

Thete y i seed to do even on some mobs will give nice bonus

[gaunt island]

if ure into cooking min-maxing, accustom urself with Lavas first game the amount of dmg u need going from Incarnates to TH is about what I expect from W6-W7 and current W5

[opaque sun]

lava can always add an active spelunking experience to idleon

[vocal ibex]

I need help

I need 1 spice for the last one

[little dawn]

Use tsar

[opaque sun]

tsar offers more fight power on his own lane than a merc

[dim burrow]

should i use kattlekruk upgrade stones or world 5 stones for armor

[vocal ibex]

Ty

[opaque sun]

generally store stones offers better than the expected average of boss stones

Boss stones only if you can effectively spam many many trials

[dim burrow]

okay thank you ill probably just use the store stones lol

[vocal ibex]

@little dawn ty got some good power on it too. Just gotta save up for eggs

The last spice I need

[opaque sun]

yeah kind of a mess still. Get forager (leaf) above the burger

[livid raft]

Best toons to use to get lava skulls?

[bright current]

Toon link

[opaque sun]

ES and SB generally a no brainer lava skull

ES may struggle if his wormhole levels are too low (short duration)

[livid raft]

Alright I'll try on my ES/SB

[gaunt island]

with live skype learning sessions ay

[wraith granite]

can you mega crit bosses?

[brisk bane]

How are you guys getting those Eclipse Skulls?
Even with 4M KpH, it takes like 100 2hs candies to get just one eclipse skull

[opaque sun]

yes you can mega crit bosses

Usually people have like 3000 candies over the years of giant farming and such

[placid mural]

Or if you have doot, you can have 7/10 farming afk kills for the eclipse

[brisk bane]

I have some (probs small quantities compared to others) but is it really worth using them for that?

[opaque sun]

Real life afk time is better spent on w5 eclipse

[placid mural]

True story

[opaque sun]

People who dont have 3000 candies or so are now doing colo to get candies

[placid mural]

Never found colo to be a premium source of candies, giants however for sure are

[opaque sun]

Do po 6 rerolls for tickets, then Dk at colo (colo2 for best ticket per candy)

[placid mural]

Top bird, I don't love missing out on the free eggs from w4 colo though

[opaque sun]

W4 colo is fine too, just slight more ticket costly

[brisk bane]

I currently have 8 characters in Gmush to get the first eclipse
between all characters im getting like 7M KpH lol

This is gonna be a looong journey

[placid mural]

I'm getting about 15-20 miles kills per hour on carrots right now

[opaque sun]

Alternative you can work on one guy to get him to do 7m/hr

Its usually better to have one super focused guy than have many half assed guys

[brisk bane]

I don't really know where the issue is

probs the damage, my ES (highest damage) has 24000M

[opaque sun]

damage is like the third or fourth priority in terms of dn

[brisk bane]

Would you mind doing a quick review of my IE?

[opaque sun]

Its more or getting afk gain (respawn), and multikill per tier bonuses

[brisk bane]

At least for the KpH thingy

[opaque sun]

Showing the afk info at gmush is more informative than ie honestly

[brisk bane]

Okay let me send

[opaque sun]

damage after a certain point scales bad for kills as it gets real hard to reach next damage tier

[brisk bane]

Main SB, not using Magma gear as they are on my ES and BB as well as my Kebabs/Grilled Nomwich.
Also only 1 card doubler and no star sign doubler

And not using the multikill chips, all 3 of them i have on the active ES

[simple palm]

Do you have premium afk hat/wings?

[brisk bane]

Nope

[opaque sun]

Main issue seems to be lacking afk gain% (and possibly respawn). Also dont use fibres prayer as that kill per kill is only applied to base kills

But the damage penalty is multiplicative which is big penalty

[brisk bane]

Oh wow didn't know that

[simple palm]

Its better with it on, unless u move up a damage tier tho

[lavish grotto]

Is king doot stronger than this restriction

[opaque sun]

even if it doesnt change damage tier, when doing like 29x mk, the kill per kill effect is real tiny

The kill per kill from lab and nobi is great since it applies to all kills

Kill per kill bubble and prayer sucks as it only applies to the base kill of 1

[simple palm]

better than 🚫 tho

But Yea, doesnt really matter

[opaque sun]

Doot makes it so it applies the main effect 1 times, and lava made it so doot doesnt apply any minor link of purrmep (probably to prevent getting 10x effects from it)

So a doot holder will still need to have someone use purrmep to get the minor link effect of sailing/gaming

[brisk bane]

Any recomendation on how to increase these things?

[opaque sun]

afk gain is mostly like premium gears, but right off the bat i can say you missing zergrush prayer that gives afk gain

For mk per tier, it mostly comes from deathnote itself, but also artifact from sailing (triliobite) boosts that (also some shiny pets)

[brisk bane]

Yeah that is my main priority rn

probably gonna go for it tomorrow

[opaque sun]

Many of the premium gears boosts well on gmush as they are often a target of double effect chips

[brisk bane]

currently working on Rat and snakes for shiny pet boost and i have ancient artifact, not trying to get the eldritch rn

[warped cedar]

Wtf man like 15 kills on this stupid chaotic boss and I cant get a card drop

[opaque sun]

related to that chips helps a lot with sb gmush capability

Not sure if you there yet to do boss, but the new kattlecruk gears helps immensely with gmush

[brisk bane]

except for gauntlet and scarf i got everything unlocked and i believe i can craft all of it

[opaque sun]

body and pants and weapon got respawn, which is effectively afk gain

[brisk bane]

Oh okay

Then tomorrow i'll focus on Zerg (if you have any link to a guide it would be really helpful)
and also focus on finishing 1 magma set for each attribute and 1 Kattle set

Now I'll just go to sleep, thanks for all the help man! 🙂 ❤️

[mortal flax]

Might just be my luck swinging but I don’t see “portal” very often anymore during arcade

[opaque sun]

yeah just luck swinging

[wraith granite]

been trying for the past 2 hours to boost my dmg enough to 30 sec the boss on chaotic but i kill him in around 40

finally broke a billion tho which is still cool

[long pilot]

anyone happen to have the 2 different skill bars for active bubo?

[ashen marsh]

when do you guys link to rabbit?

[bleak gazelle]

This one?

[opaque sun]

Bouncing skull probably causes more hitching and crashes than the kills it adds

Would recommend #2, and using a melee weapon (stingers gloves) to apply aura more often

[dapper prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1125251335164534804/bubosetup.png

although i always prefer rezz before dmg stuff

[twilit goblet]

trying to raise my bubo to get stronger, but I need 2 ticks to kill soda

[opaque sun]

Im too a rez first guy as i feel casting aura on top of aura sometimes is a waste, but raise dead in succession is always more kills

[bleak gazelle]

Where's that from?

[dapper prism]

yup same

[wooden stratus]

any tips? https://u_ifer.idleonefficiency.com

[dapper prism]

for xp, forget about cc itself and go to highest xp maps, run something with crystals and active xp, your levels will sky rocket:
https://i.imgur.com/SqYhNrm.png

[left patio]

Same I feel like theres something I'm doing something awfuly wrong... https://22950015039498.idleonefficiency.com

[dapper prism]

STOP HOARDING BOOKS

[dapper prism]

you got doot?

[undone nacelle]

What rings should one use for combat if can't afford opals yet?

[twilit goblet]

yea I've been trying to level bubo, he's in w5 map now and I'm just letting him afk push since it's about 1 level per hour there at 160. Maybe an active approach with these would be much faster

it's taking a lot of ticks to kill the stilts

[dapper prism]

why afk, active can be 100x faster xp rate

[twilit goblet]

crystals 1 shotting me

[dapper prism]

Oh 😮

[severe maple]

Any of the combat rings from the dungeon flurbo shop, or farm some from rams

[dapper prism]

crystals main xp though 😦 get that def up?

[twilit goblet]

orz how do I get around that, feels bad to pump fmj

yea I might need to pivot my alchemy priorities around and just pump some def and upgrade to some lustre armour

[dapper prism]

theres other sources to like dungeon, cooking, gold food, etc

[dapper prism]

Never make lustre

[severe maple]

How many levels in Haemogoblet do you have? Also how much have you invested in HP talents?

[twilit goblet]

lustre is thr green one right?

[severe maple]

Yes

[wooden stratus]

yeah

[dapper prism]

yeh, i mean if you really struggling with survival then i guess.
But usually go void then chizoar

[twilit goblet]

50 hemo, I've pump like 20 points to see if it helps , I'm around 3.5k hp and Crystal does 4k

[severe maple]

You should have maxed HP

[long pilot]

tyty and @bleak gazelle as well. cheers!

[dapper prism]

Whats your DEf atm?

[twilit goblet]

ah okay ill pump the hp up

1.4k iirc

[severe maple]

More hp = more hp per kill

[dapper prism]

Also what map are you in?

[twilit goblet]

1.4k def , 1 dementia head 3 void unupgraded, reset in 2 hours then I can pop some agility on them to help with crystal accuracy too

[severe maple]

My warriors are all over 100k hp now, so they are healing thousands of hp per kill, so the damage taken is meaningless

[dapper prism]

warris are always easy to survive on

[twilit goblet]

I'm on w5 map with the stiltmole

[severe maple]

My archers are above 30k and same thing

[noble mesa]

R u useing the corse the give mk but low armor??

[left patio]

upgrade ur fmj

[severe maple]

I have dementia on most characters, and they can live thru oranges

[twilit goblet]

nah, 13m damage only so I'm not using anything that lowers dmg at the moment

[gaunt island]

dementia on citringes 💀

[severe maple]

I’m lazy as hell 😉

[noble mesa]

Give love to your armor

[left patio]

armour cool

[gaunt island]

but first give it to ur wep and stamps xD

[twilit goblet]

so I'll

1. max hp talent tab 1
2. up some fmj
3. stone all armour pieces
4. maybe work on more hp stamps
5. pray

[dapper prism]

So, at 1.4k DEF vs suggma crystal spawns 10k atk x2.5 = 25k atk you should be receiving 797 hits from the crystal

If you got to:
1.5k DEF = 673 dmg
1.6k DEF = 574 dmg

[severe maple]

Weapons are all lustre, just waiting on grey salt for going up to next tier

[dapper prism]

Meh, ive never done the hp talent as i feel like its minimal in most cases 🤷

Honestly the def may actually help you more depending, fun thing to play around with i guess.

But getting gear like chizoar would help the most with w5 enchants (WIS stat)

[severe maple]

But you can just ignore armour and food if you have enough hp and damage, then armour doesn’t matter except what mainstat it gives

[twilit goblet]

feels like crystals outscale my accuracy hard as well, all my main bubbles are 100 only

the bubble 1 *

[dapper prism]

A bubo won't scale its hp that much

[dapper prism]

W5 your accuracy will sky rocket pretty quick tbh, wouldnt waste a chiz set with acc stat unless you're making more than 1 set so you can switch them around

[noble mesa]

Ita good , not only

[severe maple]

Yeh, but damage and hp removes the need for armour at all

[noble mesa]

And it more cose the 3 bobble

[noble mesa]

Better armor more total stat

[gaunt island]

smh lava making us eat either lemons or borgirs

[severe maple]

Yes, but the armour part barely matters at that point, that’s why we go chizor/troll/cattle armour instead of the ingot armour that has %def

[twilit goblet]

oh yea chizoar! I shud definitely get to that. I've only done it once and have been collecting keys till now haha. I think one set with main stat would hugely benefit

[noble mesa]

Hheee , i dont agree so mach
I like to have more of what i can get

[dapper prism]

Lustre+ is just all bad

[gaunt island]

ye its a bummer xD esp for those peeps that worked on diabolic whole w4

[dapper prism]

Like Dia uses a ton of nullo salt, and is useless xD

[noble mesa]

And it + for slab

[severe maple]

The %Def stat on Ingot armour is useless when Kattle armour just blows it out of the water

[modest warren]

guys whats the best active DK map in W2

[dapper prism]

lol wtf? no.. ingot armour was useless before divine(kattle) since we have chiz/troll/magma, chiz is easy to get and still better than either lustre/dia

[dapper prism]

For?
Snelbie/Pots

[modest warren]

for statues

[gaunt island]

go pincermins splicer wont get itself

[dapper prism]

Snelbie first to get the card, then i like pots for passive glass shards for stamps

[severe maple]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Skulled_Helmet_of_the_Divine

Look at this helmet and tell me going diabolical is worth it

[modest warren]

i got splicer before w5 lol

[dapper prism]

What are you on about, i never said diabolical is worth it

[severe maple]

Not you the other guy

[gaunt island]

all gd just grind... then grind some more xD

[ashen marsh]

i shouldnt bother trapping these right

[severe maple]

Doesn’t matter, you get more exp per hour from highest tier than going frogs
At least on anyone that’s not BM

[ashen marsh]

should I just set it up on everybody?

[gaunt island]

u go after exp on green boxes, otherwise ure not getting those levels xD

for normal critters and shinies on whatever highest u have rn

[ashen marsh]

do I get lower exp if I don't have enough trapping efficiency?

[gaunt island]

nah, eff is just for # of critters

[zealous niche]

You have the eff, you’re just not getting bonus

It tells you the outcome of the trap before you place it

Spend some time looking at the outcomes

[gaunt island]

but green box is like 3x the exp of any other, you only get shinies+cards alongside with it though

[ashen marsh]

gotcha gotcha

[severe maple]

You get better exp from highest tier critter per hour, only the BM gets decent exp from doing lower tier critters

[ashen marsh]

understood ty

should I always try and lvl this up?

[severe maple]

I decided to do math a month ago to find out

[severe maple]

Yes, higher levels faster

Invest 1 tier in everything else, then boost exp gain

[astral hull]

It's an exp modifier I believe

[severe maple]

Exp boosting is more important than effiency

More levels gives better effiency anyway

[kind geyser]

If I have 2 DK's extra bits talent does it stacks ?

[severe maple]

No

[kind geyser]

Bummer

[gaunt island]

ah also regarding critters - keep ur vman on 3-5 green boxes max. critter u got the rest is up to ur wants and needs

like at all times for those sweet levels

[placid mural]

So I wonder how w6 skills are going to work if there are no new elite classes

[obsidian nacelle]

am i missing something here? when did this give stats? this is on my SB

[placid mural]

Visual bug?

[severe maple]

Just put everyone on 1 silk, 1 cardboard and the rest nature boxes
You will gain levels, while still getting shiny and a box worth of normal critters each time

[severe maple]

Yes

[dapper prism]

I always prefer just grinding either/or

[severe maple]

Gaining levels now, will mean boosting collection later

[dapper prism]

Either all XP briefly to get them all to 40/50 etc. then all on resources (vman always pure xp)

[severe maple]

With the vman talent that boosts left hand, vman gains massive exp now

[dapper prism]

yeh, always place xp traps on vman, loot traps on bm

[north juniper]

Hey peeps has anyone updated on iOS and not had the pet issue?

[opaque sun]

iOS in general has bad compatibility with lava

[gaunt island]

I'm to this day very impressed how one person can make such intricate things, Lava is a second coming of Terry Davis

||with kinda similar downfalls ||

[simple void]

Lava mentioned it’s on the next update.

Quick word to iOS users, I am happy to say the current Kattlekruk Boss v1.86 is available to you without delay, and that companion purchases will come to iOS without a doubt in the next update!

[wooden stratus]

@dapper prism u asked me if i had doot. did u have any tips for me? https://u_ifer.idleonefficiency.com

[narrow wigeon]

what's the exact number??

[dapper prism]

was mainly because of the 10/10 doing combat

[gloomy crane]

what the, voidwalker only has 1 point to start?

[lapis mesa]

yup

think his top left? shows how it works

[zealous niche]

That point goes in top left

[lapis mesa]

that and doesnt maestros checkmate skill up it to

[gloomy crane]

ohhh you get more points from toplet

oh thats sick i didnt evne realize checkmate changed

[zealous niche]

One of two ways to get tab 4 points for vman

[gloomy crane]

plus interesting way to get more points

ty guys lol

[zealous niche]

Checkmate is other

[lapis mesa]

so i absolutely love that when i scroll through the hints tab, i still have things undiscovered

[zealous niche]

One other quirk, you always need one point in that skill

[dapper prism]

Just the usual that you could see yourself if you look at your IE pages step by step so honestly not really bothered giving proper comments on it as it doesnt seem you did the bare minimum yourself.

• You ignore your stamps, all anvils are full, refinery talents arnt on cd, 3d prints are meh, should be sampling with vman in void, cooking looks like you barely even touched it... You have barely any recipes yet you have recipes that take 0s to level up. Lots of dg boosted runs, very little flurbo upgrades. Lots of alts are level 1 in skills, should get those up, free talent pts and base stats from tools. etc etc

I'm sorry but idk what you want to hear, and sorry about the passive aggressiveness but it's also just slowly getting meh when someone wants an IE review that hasnt done a single thing or looked at their own IE for 5 mins before posting it.

[gloomy crane]

wait does that mean you can technically max out every skill on tab 4 with theportals?

[hollow wasp]

Hello

[dapper prism]

Not really

As it would still be like 100+ portals

[opaque sun]

You can max out most of the useful passive ones

But need to be bit selective

[open lava]

Cool a honest review

[dapper prism]

I mean, i don't mind spending some proper time to review an IE if someone actually put a few minutes of their own time as effort into it. I just dislike it when the first page you'll see like: 50 books and 10 minibosses. It's like.. urm okay xD

[dreamy merlin]

I just got my first ever nugget and it was 7.4

[lapis mesa]

very cool

[dreamy merlin]

Oh nvm it was 9.8

[lapis mesa]

welcome to feast or famine, youll hit it big then ride that wave till you feel like your stuck and then you hit the wave again

[opaque sun]

makes it looks like it was a purchased account or something

[open lava]

Wanna see mine?

[dapper prism]

Let's do it 😄

[open lava]

Alr one sec

[dreamy merlin]

for me im waiting for strong dk for mush bc its alr high

[open lava]

Wait i forgot how to send the yk link that sends you to my profile (haven't done this in a while)

[lapis mesa]

top right drop down menu, should say public profile, thatll generate a link

[open lava]

Nvm found it

[open lava]

Yea thnx

@dapper prism https://terra_blade.idleonefficiency.com/

[dapper prism]

People would usually use SB for gmush farming btw

[lapis mesa]

with a name like that i think i love you already 😄

[dapper prism]

Lol that's not yours 😉

Please tell me it isn't

[open lava]

You know where the names from ?

[ashen marsh]

there's no option to delete all traps right?

[dreamy merlin]

i mean mutated

[open lava]

It is lol

[dreamy merlin]

i have like 6 rn

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-hiding-embarrassed-bush-gif-17685536

[lapis mesa]

i mean.. i know the main source of where i know it from. i assume it could be from numerous things

[open lava]

It's a Terraria refference I made the acc 2 yrs ago cmon..i couldn't think of anything else

[dapper prism]

You have 6 mutated mush stacks?

[dreamy merlin]

yep

[dapper prism]

Should really get them done a week as thats 2x/week. At 6 it's like a full week for a single stack 👀

[lapis mesa]

yeah thats what i thought it was. ive like 3k hours of the past 10 years

[dreamy merlin]

since its alr high i might as well get good dk for it to be good

[thick arrow]

for the rift trapping bonus, since i placed all the traps on my BM i'll only get exp on that account?

[open lava]

Nice

[thick arrow]

is there anyway to turn that feature off if so

[dapper prism]

XP still goes to those classes. also XP traps are placed by vman, not bm

[lapis mesa]

it should still function like eagle eye and deposit xp to the individual characters

[thick arrow]

no vman yet but ill place on maes

[open lava]

@dapper prism you are not ready to see my acc trust me

[thick arrow]

silly question, is it just lv150 needed to unlock vman? is that when youre able to see the other things you have to grind out

[dapper prism]

My question is just.. why? like wtf

[lapis mesa]

its lvl 150, and 1 mil on all w1-3 deathnote

and then its 12 or 13 mil gmush kills

[open lava]

The name? Right

[dapper prism]

Everything, you arnt w5 though?

[open lava]

Yep working on that

[dapper prism]

May want to work on your w1 stuff 👀

[open lava]

Like?

[dapper prism]

Everything..

https://i.imgur.com/7wgcGp6.png

[north juniper]

12m and also killing chaotic chiz

[lapis mesa]

ah yeah forgot about chizz

[open lava]

Stamps overrated no?

[lapis mesa]

im like 50 levels off the first req so im not even stressed

[open lava]

Minimal bonus 🤮

[lapis mesa]

Stamps are huge, not as big as alch, but still major

[dreamy merlin]

insane bonus

even more with 2x stamp node

[open lava]

Rly from the stamps I have i don't really see it tbh maybe once I get more

[open lava]

Which ones that

[dapper prism]

u dont see it because your stamps are level 5.

[dreamy merlin]

the book 1

[dapper prism]

It is literally free for you to upgrade those in terms of cost

[dreamy merlin]

tf is wrong with your keys...

[open lava]

Why lol

[dapper prism]

IE doesnt display world keys when you have 0

[dreamy merlin]

oh ok good

i was worried for a sec

[open lava]

Well anything else that's severely lacking

[dapper prism]

everything

Literally

[open lava]

Damn

[dapper prism]

This looks like a troll account tbh

[open lava]

Rly that bad?

[dapper prism]

Sorry but.. more than half your bubbles are level 1

I dont even know how you're in w4 at this point xD

[open lava]

Yea I got no mats to upgrade em (I think)

[opaque sun]

typical “faster to list what you have worked on”

[open lava]

Me neither plus basically everyone is 100 plus idk how

[dapper prism]

Still looking for that

[slate cloud]

Anyone got any tips on beating kruk with maestro

[open lava]

There is nothing I've worked on

[dapper prism]

They are working on sigils, dont do sigils until alchemy bubbles are done

[open lava]

Alr

[dapper prism]

Looks like youve just been running your IdleON afk for 1+ year at like 50 kph per portal to hit w4?

[open lava]

No?

I ran it afk for 389 days 7 hours and 38 mins at the sandcastle map since then I'm not rly let it afk too long tbh

[lapis mesa]

extended afk riding the wave of xp to push through without the needed mechanics.. yeah i did that to. i just afked in world one for 2 years lol

[open lava]

Damn

Well I went from level 50 to level 100 in basically ally chars in the freaking sandcastles map

[frigid swift]

i did something similar at cakes. ill never need another nuget 🙂

[open lava]

Oh yeah one of my chars did cakes went from 50 to I think 97+

[lapis mesa]

i ended up witha level 90 barb that cleared me through basically til the end of w3, and then the rest of the game caught up to me

[frigid swift]

i dont recall what level i startted but when i came back they were 84-87 on my 4 chars. except my miner... who i am now struggling to catch up to on mining with my maestro

[open lava]

Same dude but I went further I went with my barb to w4 elite class and still didn't use any of the others until finally I started to get all my chars to elite class and i realised how fun the other classes were

[frigid swift]

Not allowed to have fun in this game sorry. can only hate how long it takes to get through portals

[open lava]

The 300k for the final map of w4...

[lapis mesa]

i just pushed 4 char through w4 with candies, took about a weeks worth i think

[frigid swift]

idk nothin bout that. im still spending basically a whole day to get from map 1 to elite classes

so far ive managed to get DK and ES. now im pushing 4 more through all at once. then ill go back to pushing the actual world

[open lava]

Same i got all the elites in like 3-5 days time just through active grinding a bit and candying still haven't gotten either of the archers there but they are so shit anyways idk if i can (or even want to)

[lapis mesa]

yeah your account shows that, its ok though. just some time to kinda figure out the basics and youll be up and running. relook through w1-3 for the systems they have in place there and get your extra characters up and running

[open lava]

Yeah i grinded w3 got all the buildings done and stuff and will probably work on prayers and stuff next altho I got the best prayer alrdy (giant monsters one)

[frigid swift]

bowman is pretty good for afk and hunter is pretty good active. for moving forward

[open lava]

Ofc w2 only has 1 real thing alchemy will work on it when I finally get crystal printer

And lastly i still can't believe freaking stamps are good so ig I'll kinda look into that see which stamps are ACTUALLY good cos the stamps I have rn are just not that good

[frigid swift]

its not great to print monster drops. they are super low for a long long time. its better to print resources like oak, bleach logs, copper, iron, flies. things you need for the early bubbles

[lapis mesa]

its one of those theres where some bonuses add or mulitply off other types of bonuses, so yeah 10 attack may not seem huge, it does funny math down the line

[open lava]

Yea I am printing those wood,ores etc just printing drops to fuel my furnace

Salt refinery *

[frigid swift]

yea i saw those. you are gonna have a hard time keeping up with that for a while unless you take an ES to do some serious grindage 🙂

[open lava]

hey intep what stamps are good and how do i get them

[lapis mesa]

since you have doot you really dont care about div points, your gunning for xp really for levels to upgrade minor links. well.. i guess maybe you wanna get the gods unlocked but its kinda secondary

[open lava]

well i ry wanna work on my es but he doesnt have great dmg rn plus isnt like bubo better or grinding for even dk better?

[lapis mesa]

i dont have an answer as to specific ones being good.. ive just tried my best to just get them and level them as i can. the wiki gives a list of all of them/their bonuses and how to obtain them

[open lava]

alr

!stamps

[frigid swift]

not for grinding mats. ES is king at mats

[lapis mesa]

ES is the best character for basic mob materials

[open lava]

......

[lapis mesa]

?wiki stamps

[verbal canyon]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/stamps

[lapis mesa]

aha!

[open lava]

ty

[frigid swift]

these cubes were like maybe 20 mins at frosty flakes.

i spent an hour at giga frogs and got like 15k horns.

[opaque sun]

seriously get a mat bag

[frigid swift]

and i litterally just got my ES and have him in shit gear atm since i moved his gear to other chars im pushing

yea i need to before i go to bed.

i got distracted in chat

[open lava]

how can i have 70k melties in my inv at the same time what bag do i need for that

[brave tinsel]

what are the best cards to 6 star firts (using the 6 starifier and normal farming)

[lapis mesa]

material bags cover monster drops, such as the cubes

[open lava]

yea but can the void one house all 70k melties?

plus 2 bandage wraps?

[frigid swift]

There hows that 😛

[lapis mesa]

the void one? i can hold 16k of each mob material with that so yeah you should be able to get 70k in your inventory

[opaque sun]

Still very pinchy for an overnight farming

[open lava]

alr lets see

[frigid swift]

its the best one i can make lol

[lapis mesa]

my ES cant even make it an hour, its so sad

[frigid swift]

im not even in w5 i just hit w4 the other day. i just came here because w1 was cringy and w3-4 chat was dead at the time lol

[opaque sun]

get bigger bags guys seriously

[sharp jacinth]

Wht affects the rare drop table from skilling? Is it just dr

[lapis mesa]

im working on it!.. stupid green salts.. and batteries.. and not enough smithing level

[opaque sun]

Cap size is a very important stat many early gamers underestimate

[open lava]

howd u get ice age discs or something again?

[frigid swift]

mammoths iirc

[open lava]

alr

[frigid swift]

yup mamooths

i got fairly lucky on those pushing through them with like 8 chars i picked up 12 discs lol

didnt stop to farm just clearly portal

[open lava]

i didnt get any

well i can feel it anvil level 45,deuscythe and so much more are just 2 hours away

[worn sonnet]

If you really push it you can get to w5 pretty easily

Pushing through w5 is not worth it on an early account though

[open lava]

rusing to w5 is the move ive heard

w5 apprently has huge bonuses

[worn sonnet]

Yep

All w5 skills are timegated

So the sooner you start the sooner you get them juicy gains

[frigid swift]

the time gating sucks but im not rushing. i already had to play catch up when i came back from a long break

im still catching up on alch lol. since im gated behind water

[worn sonnet]

Fair

Trying to fight the troll without being able to 1 game it would be painful

[frigid swift]

besides i have no where near enough candy to force push through w4

[ancient quail]

You'll need 16k acc and approx 2m dmg to reach w5, set that as aim and you know what you're in for

[frigid swift]

yea im not even close to that acc lol

[ancient quail]

Aim for improving your alchemy along other things, the first 2 bubbles help alot

[frigid swift]

yep im workin on that.

[ancient quail]

I had the +agi bubble at 50 and shaq at 25, bargain tagged everyday for shaq

[frigid swift]

https://cptbear.idleonefficiency.com/world-2/alchemy

all of my bubbles were level 1 like 2 weeks ago

mostly just gated by water regen atm

[ancient quail]

second purple bubble will give you an easy boost as well

to dmg that is

[lapis mesa]

yeah water is an issue until you can turn bubo into a walking super cauldron.. im still not there either

[ancient quail]

lol my water is always full

i do have the gemshop cauldrons though

[frigid swift]

yeh im tryin to bring them up to 20 in order for 2nd bubble. then 25 then 30 etvc

[ancient quail]

and mman + bubo on first liquid cauldron

[frigid swift]

i have the first one. the 2nd one didnt look like it did anything for tier 1 water so i didnt get it

[ancient quail]

the second one is for tier 2 water, rather useless

if you're pushing on ES, try moving your chars to the purple cauldron

there's some nice unlocks ahead that really help

[frigid swift]

im not pushing on ES just farming on him atm.

im not sure who i wanna push on yet. i really like ES. but i hear DK is easier to push

[ancient quail]

it's a mistake not to push on es tbh

the dmg and speed is unrivaled

might be a personal preference issue on my side though 😄

[lapis mesa]

DKs respawn is probably better

[frigid swift]

it does seem great for it. i would have to respec out of rift tho. since its time wasted that doesnt count to portal

[lapis mesa]

though i did my pushing on an ES as well

[frigid swift]

DK respawn is nice. but his dmg is kinda low. from my understanding he is solid until like mid way through w4 then drops off for pushing compared to others

[ancient quail]

smart boi talent is easier to farm, so you'll get a lot more talents for ES than for DK sooner

[frigid swift]

ill decide on my pusher prob by the end off tomorrow when i get my other 4 elite classes that im working on

[ancient quail]

it took me 2 weeks approx

from arriving in w4 to getting to w5

[lapis mesa]

i have done something that has drastically improved my cooking speed and i dont know what.. but im happy about it

[ancient quail]

just for your reference, it probably can be done quicker lol

[pearl rover]

Just slam ES pushing, take 1 out of lab to make elite, rest in lab.

Then swap once theyre elite.

[ancient quail]

I had 5 in lab, was enough to get to shrine bonus

there really isn't a wrong way to go about it, just depends on how fast you want to reach it :p

[frigid swift]

Or i can push them all together with shrines to get all their elites around the same time instead of spending a week and a half doing them one by one

all 4 of them should be elite around end of tomorrow or early the next day. since im locked behind how long portals take

[ancient quail]

pushing with your es will make farming faster as well

don't you have an mman to farm on in the mean time?

and you most definetly shouldn't be mining anymore

the 3d printer should be your main source of skilling mats, otherwise you won't be able to keep your mman highest skilled for all skills

[frigid swift]

i was lacking hard on iron so i threw him in there.

my mman is already 10 levels below him and is not catching up anytime soon lol. my mman is 38 mining and he is 48

[ancient quail]

yeah so stop mining on him lol

[frigid swift]

i hate my mman atm. he is capped out at like 26k /hr mining xp

[ancient quail]

once your mman catches up, you get more than 75% eff boost on your miner so your sample will be a lot bigger

[frigid swift]

the only way i see my mman catching up is iff i go hard active on him for a while and farm crystals

for the exp reduction. but then im not active on others i need to push with

[ancient quail]

you don't need to farm crystals until past lvl 50

and you shouldn't without a cookie chip either

simply increase your alch bonuses and he'll get there

[frigid swift]

yea but at 26k an hour mining xp its like 2 days per level

[sharp timber]

Divinity question: all guides say to equip mantra on all characters once unlocked but from what I can see id get more experience using Charkara?

[ancient quail]

mantra gives exp to all chars, even those not in divinity

10 chars = 10 exp per char on mantra

while chakra is 2 for that single char

[frigid swift]

i guess i can park my DK in lab until im ready to put him back into w4 maps

[ancient quail]

I would only switch once you have the bear though, so you can move your chars from lab to divinity

[sharp timber]

I have 9 on mantra and 1 on chakra as he is level 4. All mantra characters got 36 exp in 7 hours and the charaka character got 72?

How does that make sense

[ancient quail]

it only shows the exp you get from your own char

if you're looking at the afk window

the exp you get from other chars on mantra isn't shown directly

[sharp timber]

Damn that is confusing

[narrow cloak]

Go items -> skills -> divinity and compare multipliers

[ancient quail]

36 is half of 72, so that explains perfectly the 1x exp for mantra and 2x exp for chakra

[sharp timber]

Then why use mantra at all?

[ancient quail]

because of the exp ALL your chars get but isn't shown on the afk windows

lol

[lapis mesa]

so if char 1 is using mantra, yes it shows that he gets 36, but all 9 other characters got 36 as well even though it didnt show

[sharp timber]

Ahhhh

I see

[bright current]

10 characters giving 1 to all is 10 exp per character, total 100. 10 chakras for example, js 20 total, 2 for all

[ancient quail]

the "problem" is that is doesn't show on the afk claims window

[sharp timber]

So for leveling to get to 25 is strictly is better?

[ancient quail]

mantra is strictly better yes, since 100 is better than 20

[opaque sun]

the shared exp doesnt get the double claim tho

[ancient quail]

(Lvl 25) +7 Divinity EXP, +2 Divinity
If you have all 10 characters on divinity and over 50% x2 EXP chance, use Vitalic. Otherwise, continue using Mantra to level all characters until TranQi is unlocked.
If TranQi is unlocked, use this style until Zen (Lvl 60) is unlocked.

[sharp timber]

Yep I get it now. Thanks

Just doesn't show when claiming

[opaque sun]

And sort of debatable if its worth to halt the div pts progress to level or get div pts as you level during that important god unlock phase

[sharp timber]

Yeah I am up to elephant anyway so the div points needed are so high

[ancient quail]

better to just stack them bonuses first then, while leveling div

[bright current]

Usually better not to sac long term progreas for short term gains

[opaque sun]

on my progress, i had mages do vitalic while the others did mantra to push those mage levels a bit than others

general thought of better to have few specialists, than a band of mediocre dudes

[sharp timber]

Yeah I just want to power level to get vitalic basically

[dreamy merlin]

once i get voraci what order should i collect plants in gaming

[zealous niche]

If you’re not at max tier for you, cacti then everything else

If you have maxed out plants, everything but cacti, sprinkler, cacti, everything else

[humble flume]

Can someone share a highlevel idleonefficiency players link?

[molten scarab]

+1 slot on craft then 100% success with all the kattlecrunk stones

[compact anchor]

quick question. ignoring the damage bonus does the 2x kills from nobisect also increase the xp?

[molten scarab]

Only really gonna effect AFK but if more kills on afk check, then more xp ye

[compact anchor]

so it does?

the 2x kills alone

[molten scarab]

you will barely notice, exp is from crystals and active

[opaque sun]

no

[compact anchor]

ok thats what i needed to know

[opaque sun]

xp is based off base kills

[compact anchor]

ty

i made the right decision then

[molten scarab]

or what he said

[gaunt island]

get dat biggie hours card if u want extra exp, if u afk long hrs it might be useful

[dreamy merlin]

Is it possible to get 200 tent without fury or slug?

[gentle furnace]

need normal fury atleast

[dreamy merlin]

Ok

I assume you technically could without but getting fury is just easier

[opaque sun]

With 160 book, and symbols, arctis with big p, and high es, i think it can go 200

But at that point, you would already have fury

[dreamy merlin]

Yea ofc

[gaunt island]

wait u need 200 or 220 for 2sec

[opaque sun]

200 for 3 sec

400 for 4 sec

[dreamy merlin]

Which rn still isn't possible

[opaque sun]

At most its around 315 or something

[molten scarab]

is this true

[gaunt island]

mhmh

[dreamy merlin]

Yes but not possible

[opaque sun]

based on the current formula of tent

Like wiki has the lv simulator of skills

[molten scarab]

I thought it was like 700 or something , somehow

plus 400 must be damn close , with this pet etc

haha

[dreamy merlin]

Imagine how insane bubo with lvl 400 tent would be

[molten scarab]

never imagined that a year ago , 3 seconds was wild shit