#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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still missing a few points on my journeyman to make him maestro, whats the best way to get anvil to 35, mining to 32 and chopping to 33?
You won't be able to increase strength through library, it's through later tab talents / vman
For crafting: craft many items
For the rest: Candy and baloons
Keep the killing
its like 100k xp for 1 mining lvl and i get 15k mining xp per hour candying
to be fair chopping is super easy
i feel like for chopping you can get away with actually waiting
i was able to
Kill cristals then lvl up skills
huh?
He's not maestro yet, no access to crystal countdown
i dont have this skills
that's maestro talent...
need more point for 3d print
I know
so time candy and ballon is the way
I put more for vman talents
where are all your talent points
is alot of candy
Make sure to max your xp skill % (talent, golden food, etc...)
golden food is good idea
any trick to do this? 100.000.000 in storage its show as 100M, i can't know if it rounded or exactly....
Also, try to max out efficiency too
Bit by bit
Retrieve 10M at a time, and put it in another stack
Withdraw 100m via split stack feature, make a new stack in bank
Was gonna say you can't really carry 100M at a time, but actually
what did you wanna see if it was sailing or gaming claim get real
which card should be 5 star first? and can i get 5 star card without reach final rift?
how do you get that free spice?
chaotic troll
is it better normal Kattle or Chaotic for necklace
what abt blood bers page
You can 5* using gems -chaos troll is the best first card
oh my im so dumb, i missclicked
free spice is from the converter pet
Max out the green ones, put a handful of points in the yellow ones (so you can use them), max orange after green, avoid red for fighting
(I completely brainfarted with spice spillage)
its ok lol they are like the same thing tbh
i wanted to make the 100% divinity thingy i was saving points for it and i accidently braindmg clicked the left button after claiming afk gains
Déjà vu
yeah, i stole it from someone else, i think you know who 
bones
So, how does it compare with full magma? How much stats you lost?
My damage went up overall but I'll have definitely lost some base stat
I didn't really check how much
wheres the guide for w1 worship thingy
!guide
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In there
cheers
that taste talent is a waste of a talent
like it was useless even before recent cooking buffs
once you have all spices it is literally worthless
Hey we're still missing one spice. Maybe one day itll be mega pog
It won't be, but yknow
more pet territory battles 🤢
what difficulty did you farm
Might roll a 90k ratt in preparation lol
For the necklace I farmed normal
Was getting cards and just got lucky
how 2 make siege breaker
soon 1k
So good for active if u are not farming coin on bubo?
Yeah, solid for like ES/DK
cool
Strong for afk too cause of the respawn
oh yeah, good to know, gonna craft 1 for my ES
yeah more than good
How does the maple logs achievement work? Says I need a 200k stack but whenever I make one the achievement doesn't activate - is there some trick with it?
👍
getting the stack and waiting little bit
I find you need to linger in storage a bit for it to proc
i love vman samples lol
I open and close storage til it pops
guy is a monster for vial maxing , like wtf
Create one stack of 200k and move it
Ty friends will give each of these a try
isnt it weird that this is has insane boosts to your acc and is also the worst/forgotten area in the game?
Been a while since I did the last sample on vman, do you have to kill the bosses before the samples or is the skill enough?
Bosses for the respawn too
yes, each boss killed = more base mob respawn. I kill 3 boss on normal and sample
Cool
u can easily reach chizoar if u just ignore everything and push
Acc is pretty useless
i just lost 700 divinity points because my misslick T_T
make sure to use skill before sampling lol, first time i did i forgot and had to wait a whole day D:
I know that pain
claimed afk and afked clicked the left option when i had 100% on the right option xd
NOOOOOO even worse
gus it happened!, after 2 weeks of clicking it showed up
i had 100% but i failed ^^
You still have to unlock the gods for the blessing
As you can't level up the blessing without the god haha
Nah Idts, I’m getting omni perks on all my chars but don’t have that god unlocked only got up to goat
But yea still working on unlocking all gods so I can upgrade blessings
Got everyone in lab rn so I’m working the div altar simultaneously, atleast til Friday when I get back home
what would be the first thing i should prioritize getting to book 245 on different characters? so many have 220 now that i'm not sure where to start lmao
do i use these for my journeyman for skilling mining?=
i mean
The tab 1 skill efficiency, symbols, elite class efficiency, and all log samplers talents for sure
do you have any 1 hour candies? it should take like.. 4 max? to get to level 30
idk as that was a long time ago
i get 16k xp/h and i need 140k/xp per level
i need 3 more mining lvls and 24 more chopping lvls
i'm not good for your early game advice then
i still got 21 minigames, thats like idk 50k mining xp too
my vman gets too much exp for me to tell you efficiently
if you have minigames do those first
they basically give the equivalent of candy exp
Black Pearls are early game items. Don't be like me and have tons of em for no reason.
just do the minigames on the furthest mining node you can get exp out of
Yeah, there's really no reason not to use them if you're at the last few levels before 30
kk, ty guys
Yea I’d say use your black pearls
After skill lvl 30 on your chars they’re useless anyway
you can always toss them, but like you have much faster ways of doing things
oh wait, they stop at lvl 30 i just realized lol
they even mention it xd
well, need 2 more mining lvls now
i get 4x12h candy as reward when i get chopping and mining lvls. idk if i should invest this time tho
Is there a list anywhere of best talents to level to 220 first? Some of them just scare so badly athigh levels
*scale
is there a task to defeat nightmare kattle in 30 seconds? Or is that only for normal and chaotic?
As long as the candy progresses your account as much as you can when you use it it's worth it.
Should I try going for this one first or should I level up my Divinity to 15 first?
alright mining is done. now is chopping
you can sample while in the spd run?
Genuinely curious, is the subreddit being extremely moderated?
Oops, wrong channel
yes. Pretty broken
The process is:
Kill as many bosses as u can with your strenght, then swap your stuff to mob respawn or whatever, get to a map use the multikill skill to get extra multikil and sample as many maps as u want. Then repeat if skill effect ends
can get stuff like this
The gestapo is in charge of moderating the subreddit
it looks really broken fuck i have a sample from a year ago its (700 from w2) and i didnt even bother changing it since i thought its shit
yeah i swapped this week. Pretty insane results
I wasnt even sampling anything on my maestro since forever
soo with ES active wurm farming how many keys are you guys getting an hour?
yes i understand what you mean
soon
Mhh, didn't really measure, but I have farmed around 730 already (and had 7hours downtime tonight because of a crash), so quite a few
I've just used my keys, i'll check back in an hour
that is the best captain ive seen
thanks, if you would be kind to also tell your portal score and DR 🫡
I haven't gotten a good captain in ages
Yesterday, all my captains only had cloud discovery 
i would rather use a 2% boat speed than cloud discovery
Damn my luck is horrible, can’t get suggmas recipe to drop at all but can get two lucky lads within the same week 😞
Sounds about right
soon another accomplishment
im telling people, that drop rate on lucky lads is weird
i just realized i havent done this quest on my SB lol, and he isnt even my last character
guys why is mob respawn important
lol
like bubo already uses his skill to respawn so what bonus does mob respawn give
Btw congrats
mob respawn is better for AFK kills per hour
Gud captain
It's good for AFK, and for vman/BB active too
am i unlucky that ive been killing the big poop guy for 2 months and still havent dropped this max? or is this normal
Unlucky i'd say, at least I got it pretty fast
mine is 96 and i killed him like 10 times
@fathom lagoon i heard that doot doesnt give minor link bonus though, if you havent unlocked it
2months, everyday, no luck
can give minor link bonus if you havent leveled it up at all
i wish lava changed doot to only give bonus of unlocked gods. That would be fair
i agree
it doesnt make sense to do what it does
even though I abuse doot, I agree 😆
i either advance further, or continue farming for t6 plants 💀
t6 plants are hard to get. Either u are very lucky or u brute force
so doot gives minor link bonuses as well? without having it unlocked?
just to be sure, you mean the ones for mage, correct?
NO
sadge buff doot
I've basically skipped the part where you grind for gods because I got all the major links right away
becuause it cant give a bonus that you havent leveled up yet
doot needs a buff
Yeah beef up all your mage chopping talents and wisdom stuff on that page
we still in business
just made it to w5, are there any worth while things to buy with gems. I have one kitchen and one egg upgrade per tier list...anything worth investing in tier A to jumpstart w5? Have 1200 gems,
I read it but forgot it, is there some trick to divinity where at some point you can get both lab and divinity xp and not have to leave them at alter?
Any other tips starting this world?
there isnt anything of that kind worth buying in W5, pretty chill gem world
Can I ask the question how the fuck does people get their Vman like 1b damage and I did only 32m damage
Is there a best char to farm skulls on, in rift?
I like the sprinkler
whats the most important talents for vman in speedrun?
wow, that beat nightmare kruk on all 10 is going to be tough mission
Slug chests are nice, the sprinkler is nice, extra divinity exp is nice, but nothing there has any impact as other worlds
cool
BB and Vman are the worst offenders
what is the divinity level where you can get both divinity and lab xp?
It does need most of the gem shop items for w5 and All of them is needed except for the useless ones
My BB has been sharpening his kitchen knife for a while now..... he's got this
W3 still has the most "mandatory" gem purchases in the game
BM is not very bright either
Totally, vman took about 15min on chaotic, so no way no way
????????????? u can skip whole W5 shop, what are u on
there is nothing necessary to buy on it
BM takes a while but it's easy, you can use the manually aimed arrow to clear 90% of the adds
Lke 3d sampler from w3, 1 kitchen from w4, liquid cauldrons and cauldron w2, anvil w1
Endgame 
ahah endgame u max all gem shop, no matter waht u are buying

dont even check u just click buy
yeah it means i actually have to care about leveling up some of my characters lol
Before buying
im farming the 12 5* cardifiers now
I will say maxing the divinity bonus and slug chests were super helpful for early w5
but kinda expensive
slugs u can postpone
cuz there is no reason to get more chests than boat for a while
u buy chest as u progress on sailing,
I was at a point where I'd max my loot pile in 2 hrs
so I said FK it and maxed slugs
the 2nd god you unlock lets you be active in lab without being in lab, but you don't get xp, i think there's a later god that makes it so you get divinity xp when you're in lab but dunno which one it is
does skilled dimwit for divinity raise divinity points and lower xp as I would expect?
my bb was doing well killing him
The maxed sprinkler is VERY strong also '.'
it just takes a ton of time, and i don't have it lol
his combustion buffs help a lot
but you spend a lot of time running around killing moles
but u max in 4h tho, each ship can make 2 travels iirc
so we can get 40 loot with 20 ships + 10
Will these fill up on their own?
oh, I didn't know it was 2 travels max, I had like 10 loot pile and 7 ships, it just felt super bad
The first one will fill up then start making atoms
how did the last 3 fill
It's for the skill efficnt talents
gotcha
/tts its for the bonus tatlents that depend on resources
I swapped a 1 log into the spot where logs go when sorted, guess I have to rotate them out in a couple hours
any idea if the treat tier will carry into next companion batches?
no, because then white would become impossible
i would think that it cant because it rules out the lower pets
yeah makes sense
also you make more money if you continually reset it
plz lava, add a "harvest all but chemical plant" button
Next legendary companion skill
had to mouse over to see if the laughy face was from lava
"harvest all but chemical but do cactus first" button
exactly lol
I am still hoping for a new automation arm skill, add filter for plants that will automatically be pruned
Can anyone help me understand why when I put my +50% chopping eff gear on it makes my samples LOWER than my normal troll gear with %all stats?
maybe in w6
the eff didnt hit a new tier so did nothing,so all you did was lose stats?
skills are effected by main stats, if you have a lot of +eff from other sources the +all stats can have more impact of total efficency than + effeciency.
Wild, I notice that now. So basically the outfits are worthless later game?
not worthless if your hittign a new tier i think? not sure
or look at it that late game +stat is king
whatkind of main stat you at?
Fr?
until you reaching w5
i didnt expect smithing the hardest skill to lvl, lol need 3 more lvls for maestro
Mini games helped a lot w that
spam soul candies or tab 5 bullets if you have them
minigames smithing? what where
i think so ye
I just craft bullets and 30 secs
i think i dont have both
also i need lvl 32 > 35, im sure tab5 would be way beyond lvl 35
Craft the most advanced item (in term of tabs) that you have many ressources for. Might be fishing food or even mining bags
i could craft 6 of these, worth?
Damn well I’m missing the last 3, working on unlocking them anyway
worship gum still way better
Critters are kinda hard to get, especially at the beginning so i'd focus on maybe mining pouch or chopping pouch. They'd probably give the same xp
dont have the recipe, is 1:300000 or smth
with my luck it will take a whole year to farm neclace and cape XD cant believe people already got those XD
oh, was thinking u misspelled "gum" with "gun"
i was thinking about splice gun upgrade
It's lvl 36 to craft anyway, try it later
ye to high
@fathom lagoon sadge
tbh youd maybe be better asking in w3/w4 you might get more applicalbe advice given you dont have much unlocked
totally done with sailing rn 
Can you craft many of this? Gives me 57k xp (with a 6.37xp multiplier)
i unlocked almost everything for my smithing lvl.
Get that last useless artifact rn!
i dont have any plat rn... ^^ i made 3 plat axes
id encourage you to as w3/w4 instead of asking late w5 players and reapetedly saying "i dont have that"
This channel isn't exactly full of late W5 players lol
They're all gone 
But W5 should not consist of "I do not have 7500 plat ore"
as i said. im smithing 32 rn and for that lvl i have everything unlocked tho. and i got a general question like for maestro 32 > 35 whats good to craft. its not especcialy a w3 question or smt h:D
not fully 
nah that was totally uselss
If the only thing you're missing is the eye then yeah you're done
U can buy all Anvil Points u can. Equip Anvil Big Bubble and produce the first 3 Items. Will also increase your level over time
I don't even think it works
It does its just completely useless
^
It might as well not work
They might as well be to me
I try to hang out in here, but then I realize I'm so far behind in lab/div/everything
Used to be a lot more. Late game/End game suffered the biggest casualties during the purge
if you have 7500 plat, then your good
Yeah, I was here for a few weeks before that happened
would need a late game channel ahah to late game for W5 but too early for endgame
I primarily stay here because I'm not as sweaty as endgame, and like to answer questions
Reading hard (for me)
99.9% of end game talk isnt actually end game
Most of them arent even playing the same video game as end game
you consistently give good adivice and have way more patientce than i ever could
How do I get better captains?
Wait
And pray

Wait for Daily reset and higher sailing levels can give better captains
The captain you can get are based on sailing level but it's pure rng
they are like the cogs of people
thats the neat things you dont get good captain
Except you can't play captain clicker
Same, it's been like 150 levels since last time for me
I think I might play some today to make one of those fun gifs Tony used to make for gen chat
Trashing 3 full pages of 100%+ exp cogs
How do i get ancient artifacts? 
I think the chizoar blankies gif hurt me more when I first saw it
Get Artifacts a second time
Same way you get normal ones, just rarer. Same island for the ancient
Wait harder 🗿
eldritch you need rift unlock
I don't know what eldritch is 
Third tier of artifact
seethe stony things in the above vid
They are even harder to get 
can see normal, ancient, and eldritch here
Does the Fibers of Absence prayer (X% for deathnote and PORTALS) work with speedrunning on vman?
Yeah but it's generally a net negative to kph if you can multikill
It should, but it's probably a loss
As it'll often drop you a tier and lose more than you gain
how do i sell keychains? they say can not sell and they mess up my storage
Ahhhhh fair enough
Dump em on the floor like the trash they are
Just drop them on the ground and reload map
good idea, ty
Feel myself rapidly ageing waiting for this darn number to go up
BUT IN THE END YOU ARE GONNA BE THE TRUE PIRATE
is the idleon wiki down rn?
I already bricked the family PC with limewire and bearshare so my status as true pirate is already secured
seems to be so, cant open here either
Wiki opened fine for me
how do you minor link
god i am an aetheist
sorry im incredibly new to w5, if i linked my character on a god, it also gains the minor bons?
what skill should vman work on guys
I got the emerald relic but I can't fid the blobulyte anywhere
sick, thanks cool peeps

Re enter w5
No Problem. We are here to help :)
Reload the map, relics apply after a map change
hmm when should i start to put my BB in the kitchen
hes only chow up to w4
Heelo guys, can we switch bundle of gem shop ? i didnt buy green gem bundle and i wish to take it but it is not the one i wawnt in the gem shop, any idea ?
Wait or buy out everything
The bundles rotate periodically
It cycles
If you do not need him in Lab and do not want to Chow W5 you can afk in kitchen
nah i dont want to pay for useless bundle xD
i only have 38 chow on him
anybody have a checklist for maximising income of coins
so should i let him cook or continue to chowing
Yeah it should cycle out eventually, not sure on the timers
Let me check mine really quick. I am no expert on BB. I hate him
depending what slot your BB is you'll want him to push w5 cuz of boss task
#endgame-gen-chat message To open link, go to #👀read-me Click peanut
@bold quiver @placid mural Seems like I get around 20keys in 1h with ES (105B max dmg, 11.46DR, 126 portal score)
But its a full sheet of current money multipliers
I got 58 Chows. 10 in W5 so far. So u are definitely missing some
hmm i'll let him chowing then
Higher Eff means more Ladles. So it might be worth to farm chows (depending on how fast u can chow)
Are magma barrels worth it?
it's cheap so why not
damn thats wild
That's literally all the money I have
then no ig
focus on the stones for now, as you get better lab you'll be able to unlock the nod that turn gmush kill into money
iirc a full stack of those is still in the dementia coin bracket
pushing w5 should still give you good income even without the big bonus from gmush
my gmush bonus is 2% 
Kat artifact is like 732 or something since i just found the ancient yesterday. i can finally level some stamps 
it build fast with a dedicated sb at gmush
i'm still in div/lab prison 
thats a lot
once u get your SB out of there u throw him at gmush for eternity
That's pretty close to what I was seeing as well
how do we get this`?
You have to kill the Biggie smalls boss while holding the aged Pete
What's the actual strat for Vman at kattlekruk? Attack and use skills on ads? Pray?
Coin is good in a giant pile but otherwise: yes
Dang
I believe someone said at about 200b sheet damage you can afk through it
But that's a big ask for vman
Yeah kitted to the teeth I'm around 40.
Better people than me lol. Cause that just seemed awful.
I did do BM at 40bil and that was also terrible
Oof yeah I just did BM but at ... a lot more than that and didn't enjoy it.
at wurm ? maybe i need more dr only getting 26 at 2.5 T dmg and 142 portal but 10.57 dr
I don’t get why the biggie moles quest is 6m without multi kill
That takes so long even for those in late game
Multikill counts afk doesnt it
Kattlekruk Vman is a skill issue
You need to focus more on adds and proper usage of skills on them
The new AoE gives you precious seconds to damage the boss
But mostly focus on adds
Yes
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1097854304469127288
Use this (box on the left), set multikill to 0 and get an idea of how your drops increase. It estimate drops really well
So what's a good place to actively farm for instablabs? Cause i have way more subs and clouds so I may as well finish it off lol
Rats probably?
Ty
No reason to use ES anyway. Most of the current testing done is showing more keys per hour on DK at wurms
Really? Damn, i'll have to give it a try. I was looking for a reason to use DK for more build speed anyway
Sailing: you kind of need to set your boats to islands that take a while, so you dont overflow your loot pile, before you can collect it. BUT you need to keep collecting treasures from the early islands, to spend on upgrades & stuff. ⛵
Those islands have short travel times; so they fill the pile quickly. so....what are you supposed to do?

Yeah wurms has always been a decent DK map. He can pretty consistenetly get 700-800 orb count
And ES scales better at higher portal count so wurms having the highest hp in the game means the lowest portal count so its techincally ES's worst map
so something like that ?
Yup
Is the drop chance correct tho? Show some more digits to make sure
You're good then
From what I've seen so far the current expected averages at 16-17 DR are roughly 30/40/70 keys per hour on bubo/ES/DK
who has 17 dr on a crystal build?
does this really mean 4 days = 100% shiny?
they add up the orb
Anybody gotten their gaming snail to lvl 25 before?
How Giants eye artifact work? does it really make 4 days = 100% shiny?
i have 1 5 star card upgrade left, but my choatic troll doesn't 4 star, what should i upgrade? or wait for troll card?
Should I respond to a dude named troller god 
yes, idk if legit tho
+100% shiny == doubled chance, not shiny chance set to 100%
i actually don't know how it work...
thank you
Almost every 25 snail I've seen has been a confirmed save scum
Maybe there is someone out there who has done it legitimately but the chances are incredibly low
just unlocked vman, can anyone suggest what i should go for next? can link efficiency if anyones interested
thinking about going for 100% crit but not quite sure how to approach that
How do you do achievement 9 on the new boss? I done it with bubo but it didn't count? I need to kill him nightmare without him getting healed
i mean whatever you do, focus on alch i guess, you should do speedrun and get the statue talent, that helps a ton with getting over 100% crut
a lot of your crit chance comes from statues
100% for crit or 100% for megacrit??
how much does the vman talent give? in %
you have meal that give crit (can get around 25~35% crit by this) and statue
dont have that meal yet i believe
Also overaccurate crit gives a good amount when u have good acc
yeah im far off that talent aswell
then focus something else
and i dont have choco chip to farm statues
yeah all 9 in w5 now
just infinite afk at w5
get lv 300 if you can
Crit chance dont need more than 200%?
im at 60%
yeah...you just need to grind lv now
ez enough i guess
buy exp potion from w5, afk to get more and more lv
if you can, try to active bubo
For constant mega crit ye
but at w4
Until we get giga crits
u mean for cranium? i feel like i dont get more than like 5k seconds on that anyways
which is not even 2hrs of progress
active mainly on ES rn
this is great spot for bubo active pre-w5, even if you not have choco chip
bubo dmg too low?
uhm...tbh, this game need a lot of patient, even when you low, you still need to do it, lv your grind time bubbles as much as you can
good enough for w4
you will slowly grow
ye been doing TVs mostly
unless you have this magic item || 💳 ||, you will need several month to grow(i mean more than 6 months)...even if you have, it still 2~3 months
ultra rare drop chance
what do i upgrade on my vman?
8 best bubbles using monster mats
I’d drop bubo afk on w5 to lvl 200-250 for talent points at some point
But they’re probably not going to be getting that much active time until a major cc push
lucked out with 30 dollars
well...you beat most of us
Mhm, this is weird, anyone ever have this?
Was gone for 8.5h, yet my kills barely went up a few hours for the quest (offline)
https://i.imgur.com/rjgPPl9.png
dam lol
rip no sheepie
lucked out is an understatement
Show tier and progress on tier? 😄
WHat do i upgrsde on my vman???
cause this was mine
https://i.imgur.com/FUz1DxR.png
now just get you ass on divinity and sit there until you got all 10 gods
i think ill lvl them all for a few days since i get like 2000M xp afk now
u dont need to unlock gods
which is best class for pushing the last few maps in W5 that require millions of kills?
depend on what you need, but mostly you need class lv first, for talent points
get all the things anways
You do for blessings, and purr minor
Too high
ok just get some gems to test my luck... can you say doot doot doot XD and omfg is to op O-o

is this a huge boost for cooking
I have 300 points left after upgrading portal
you need, you really ned
with 3 free spins
If you have +30 plates yes
yep, need more class lv
🙁
I have 42 most void and I've been saving for it and don't know if I should get it or just get oxygen first
doot doot doot
what class is best for pushing last few maps in world 5 that require millions of kills
not Blood berserker, Beast Master and Vman
Account progression
ugh give me snail🤓
actually really want sheepie hahah LF trade
For vman (for void runs)
Max talent 1, 2, 3, then 14, 10
Make sure to have at least 1 point in 4
Situational, talent 6 depending on your class lvl
@peak bane
should i put vman on skilling or class xp? lowest skill is 30
but is fking fishing which takes forever
We're you active?
Vman redo speed run + samples
trust me, you just need unlock all 10 god now, and Doot will do the rest
No, i wrote offline, so mk should count, it worked on every other class
anyone got a good bubo active guide, or tips, for focus on cranium cooking, i wanna max alchemy bubbles? I have:
Chocolatey chip
lvl 200 tentacleye
350m damage
up to oranges opened
What about aura lvl?
Don’t u basically just setup ur hot bar 200 cc and aura, boost cc perks and mana box and let it rip
exactly the type of thing i wanna know, what talents i need at what lvl, etc
Most kills will come from aura, since it ticks faster. especially on a very flat map
i don't care for gold or exp atm, i just wanna get the most of cranium cooking and then reset its cooldown as soon as possible
Use close range weapon for aura like gloves
The range of aura increases in 35's, so 70/105/.... /210 etc
i think it not count multikill kill...i feel it strange too, my quest growing very slow too, but some how Blood Ber got it very fast, it done 2 quest and other not even 5m
it just wierd
what kind of lvl do i need for what kind of breakpoint?
MK works if offline, Doesn't work on quest kills when online. I just did this on 10 chars, and it worked for all except vman
does kpk*, multikill, etc. count for cooldown reduction from tentacley and/or cranium cooking?
They said 35s, the highest u can get
Also remember stuff like PO box, Mana/alch for cdr and longer cc
wdym?
both maxed already
Use gloves, the red gloves with spike on it. Remove everything else from bar except picture at the top
Keeps u closer to mobs
won't i lose out on a ton of dmg from wand?
will it be a good ide to resample now? did it yesterday but got doot now
or do I just need to instakill anyways?
If u use wand u dont spread your aura, so your aura will always be center and not as effective
So you want stuff like:
https://i.imgur.com/C0iL4u3.png
Enemy HP /10 = dmg u should aim for for bad maps
Flat maps is a lot easier due to aura* having more a lot more dmg
I can get my aura up to 180 which is 6 auras
or 200, but it would need more books. next breakpoint is 210 tho and i cant reach that
also make sure to NEVER use this ability on bubo (can use it on bosses or stuff, but else no-no, so easier to just not use it
https://i.imgur.com/NAurlpc.png
yea i already saw some images and stuff of what the action bar needs to look like
i'm more curious about what I need now in order to start, with the focus on just straigh up cranium cooking
Yeh tet some people still add that talent for some reason xD
like what map, whats needed, etc
the gloves tip was great i didnt know that yet
I'm at around 350m damage
(max damage)
Your dmg is/should be high enough for citringes
Just try it out. Use an aura at citringe and see if they insta die
Set up on citringes and see how it goes. Not a big deal to “waste” a cc since if ur setup is viable they’re frequent
Citringes is incredible if tenticleye is at 200+
Also tiny tip that can help tiny. When u get to a map (if you ahvnt been active there already) i like to manually place a bunch of gas, aura, rezz them, place some more. before hitting CC
what if I don't one shot enemies?
like the oranges or the crystal capibaras
wouldnt it be better to be on a map that one shots?
Crystals doesn’t matter
i just want as many kills for cc/reseting cc cooldown as possible
they don't c ount for kills?
should be nice for the first usage but i plan on leaving it afk for hours and then coming back to spend on new bubbles
They do but but they’re not affected by respawn mechanics so it doesn’t matter if they’re 2-3 shots
Be sure to filter out drops if ur bag fills up
Well first goal is to 1 shot oranges, maxing our your Crystal rate and having choco chip does help a lot as long as u still 1 shot the main mobs there
So first goal is to 1 shot the mobs. Then worry about crystals
i have as much crystal rate as I can get atm
I’m not sure if it’s better to 1 shot with wand vs move down a map
I’m around where you are and I push w5 maps untill my cooking cd is up then I go to the jellyfish on w4 to proc Cc I get around 30k seconds if I stay at oranges and 77k if I go to Jellyfish where my poison can oneshot and the crystal mobs don’t hold up my character
But might as well just go and use an aura before worrying about that
https://vncn.idleonefficiency.com
Here, check my ES gear/stuff, its what goes to the bubo
Also worth timing how long 1 CC cycle is (start CC until next CC is available again that starts.
Bubo stat shot would be a better comparison imo
Im not at home atm, dontg have ie here
There’s a cranium cooking calc in the tips and tricks channel that’s very helpful
Fucking finally. Killed Kattle on my Vman. Never again
on nightmare?
Yeah
How much dmg and how long did it take?
Anyone know how many lab jewels there are in total?
Think 18, coulda easily checked on wiki or IE
But it was basically minimize how much he healed between DPS phases from Viud Raduys
Void Radius* even
Yeah I know I’m using the discord as a crutch lol
80B more than enough tho its a long time
Thanks btw
20 minutes i guess?
That was the 20 ish yeah sorry.
Sure wasn't seconds nor hours lol
Lol, yeh havnt looked into Nightmare yet, jut heard someone once say that it would take them 7 hours 
it just sucked whenever I butchered my rotation and watched him heal up several phase worth of prog 😦
7 hours how ahah only million dmg probably
do ES portal kills count for next area portal count?
I think just the kills from the respawned
so bubo is probably a bit better for pushing than ES is
Damn so I’m still missing 8 gems. 4 more weeks
I wish lava would change the DR chips to not be limited above 5.0DR
I would say more likely 4-6 months for world 6
2-3 other things before w6
Wonder if player housing is still happening
lowest i could imagine would be like 1 month maybe xD
w5 took quite a while, but I think idle skilling aftermath happened between ios launch and w6
what's your crit dmg on your vman?
One moment please!
I'm attempting the boss, but man it's a slog. feels horrible to fight this thing lol. and I'm at 20bil so quite a bit less than you
Heard people doing nightmare ~30b, but it's a slog for sure.
yeah...i was told yesterday someone did it at 10bil
is the new armor even good
thank you sir
No worries - Hope it helps!
just confirms for me I need to get way more luk stat LOL
could be possible i did with 23 bil in 20 min approx
dayum. 20min? with that damage i'd expect it to take longer
I messed up a lot so my kill took it's sweet time.
took more time on my BM than my vman
wow. I had no issues on any other character. my vman is the only hold up here lol
bb and BM were easy.
my BM was like at 30 bil dmg only
guess I really need to just get good and patient lol
on vman is was fun, focused on killing mole and when aoe was ready attack the boss this the mole get close and poped it
for some reason I have a hard time keeping the moles at bay inbetween phases
its a marathon not a sprint
like it feels inevitable heals will come in
drop coin on the floor to there feet so it bounce on multiple and not on head
atom collider make gains hoo vroom
is there max upgrade costs on bubbles in terms of atoms available yet?
Can someone explain to me how it could be better to have 2 ES instead of 2 bubo?
2 es allows for the double link gods shenanigans if you dont have doot
Because bubo has 0 benefit at all.
2x ES = 2x a second god link, more div gain. Better mk
2 bubo does the same thing as 1
Ok but what if I have doot
Bubo is good cuz you get faster alchemy and better lab tho
2 es still better for afk play since afk bubo doesnt do much
2nd ES/DK/SB is great for their tab 4 skills:
ES = Div
DK = Gaming
SB = Sailing
Can keep your 2nds in lab etc on those tabs to always have bonuses, never worry about switching
Alchemy is done within a few days once you get your CC setup properly.
Hmmmm okay I’ll switch my second bubo to ES then
Lab is also done very quickly
Lab ends, and 1 bubo does more than enough
CC?
Cranium Cooking, bubo skill
If you dont care too much you can leave it
I should probably start pushing harder with CC ngl it’s been a struggle
Gets easy once you hit 200 tente (fury artifact)
Yeah I’ve got max level 245 for talents
```You need at least 594 defense to take 0 damage from Biggie Hours.```` 💀
Yeh rip, then your cc is way overdue xD
(like, should have all bubbles in no time)
I do have ALMOST all bubbles tbf it’s just a matter of having enough liquid to upgrade
bubo does liquids too
Oh beautiful
My plan is to unlock all maps with all my characters (at least until kruk) and then do some divinity pushing to get that extra damage
Sound good?
why not get the dmg first so pushing is easier?
I also gotta put my bubo back in the lab to get my characters the last chip slot
Like, there's not much benefit of unlocking kruk if you still lack dmg etc for it
So I can craft the kruk gear, they all have more than enough damage for it
Only thing they struggle slightly with is nightmare which takes about 5-10 mins depending on character
Ah okay
Rn I have div rank 1 and I’ll push for it afterward, maybe it’ll help me with rift 44
Yessssssssss.
Omg how did you do nightmare on vman
I need to setup my god ranks 😄
https://i.imgur.com/mBQqwps.png
Pain mostly.
Setup?
unlock them still
💀 how much damage does yours do? Mines only at like 4B
Oh I wasn't sure how that would paste - sorry.
Yeah idk why I’ve never put much effort into rank
But my Vman post kill
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST HOW
That’s higher than my highest levelled character which is SB
Just wanted to get this up, leveled it not long ago:
https://i.imgur.com/9KKTiwn.png
Clever very clever
So might keep it at 30%, but don't have the talent pts to max out the talent on es atm until i respec, which would require a vman respec too
haha been around for a bit.
So my chain of prep was basically to max out 245 all the talent books that give +WIS to tab 1, then ill respec vman to do my ES stuff
Just because im too lazy to respec them all multiple times
70B max damage on vman seems impossible you really are him
At least now this should get to 1.1k+
https://i.imgur.com/vF2LaJ2.png
I feel vman jumps a bit in dmg every now and then
What’re all the sources that increase the max level for this?
Tab 3+4 talent 7. + Vman wis talent
Im being slowed down so much by library recharge rate man, 20 books takes so long
Setup killroy, dont loot the books right away from him, any time library is at 16 or 18 use killroy for the last 2-4 books. Skips a lot of time..
Where do I file a bug report? I play pc and iOS and I checked my pets and they are all gone after playing on my phone for a bit.
Yeah I do killroey every week but that’s a clever way to do it
Not a "bug", known issue, IOS thing for everyone, think there was also an announcement on it
Wym setup? Is there a specific build for Kilroy haha
Good to know, thank you.
Sorry just meant to keep ur skulls from him and do the whole book stuff that way. (be sure to spend all pts before weekly reset though)
final read the companions section in the Guide Sheet.
hmm is something changing the daily reset time? I've cloudsaved multiple times but my reset time used to be 3:47pm, now it's 3:58pm
who knows, mine went back like 50 minutes over the past few days
Does doot change the recommend number of each class?
dont think so, but its not as bad having 2 bubo after. still not as good as 2 es but not so drastic
I'm rocking 4 warriors 2 archers, it wasn;t by choice but it still works out good
shouldnt be bad especially if we get more chars
So 2 ES still recommended?
u r god tysm
i would say so but it could be more preference now
Should Hunter and Vmann be the only ones to be Monster sampling? Seems like a waste of atoms to have anyone else do it.
pretty much
How is 16 DR even possible??
The DR equipment (and the new Boss Equipment) + Custard + Event Card Set + DR cards
Doesn't the boss/nightmare set have a better drop rate than the event set?
The Premium DR stuff (Cape, Hat, Keychains) can be worn with new Boss Set.
I was talking about the card set bonus
event card set scales higher now, but idk if it can be reached with as many cards as there are to get rn
the... the big yellow one is the sun
They can if you use the 5 Star cardifers to get 5 Star Event cards. I am one away to getting 5 Star set.
Anyone here know what the cattlekruk kill tasks after the first nightmare kill are?
best score!
125 Nugget
big snip incoming
Second to last gives the scarf, I hope?
my Jman isnt fast enough in coloseum to get to biggie hours and i dont have the mats to craft the goggley eyes <.< xd
last does
Fuck
does anyuone know if that npc wil take my scarf and wings to craft a trophy?????
no it doesn't
thanks jesus
But seriously, it says "equip" and "get", so duh
the cape just has to drop on that character
u never know, i've learned not to trust those npcs!
10 capes lets go

wish i had some luck XD 250 boss kills and not even a necklace
nop that might be my probleme ahah'
how much?
13
hmmmm yeah thats low
not that i have any idea how much more drop rate would influence lol, just messing with u ',___,'
i wonder whats the math like necklace is 1/28K on chaotic how much 13 dr reduce that number
what would be the formula ? ahah
just divide by your DR
damn thats simple ahah
but since there isnt a guarantee drop for active, it doesnt matter lol
statsticaly u wil get 1 every 2,15k kills
yea i know got receipe for molten knuckles at 500 mil kill XD
just use a spear
with my luck its more 1 eevery 10k at least
u could also drop 10 necklaces after 21k kills, that could happen and the math would still check
yea thats why i need pity systeme XD
i like drops like that, make it more rewarding when u get
so how does increasing the nugget multiplier work exactly? I feel like I've plateaued for a while now
yea had more in mind doot or artrifacts
drop are fine cause you can just grind to get
tthey arent that timegate
big multiplier, u get stuck on gaming if u dont have big nugget
PTW
so just pump that import?
thx
make sure to level that import to your BITS range
like now im leveling mine to 10kish, which is my bits range
but i got my big nugget long ago, kinda sad
been stuck with a 2k nugget since release of w5 pretty much 
it sucks =/
considering the possible range, yeah
sorry what do you mean by bits range?
for example: I can easily farm 10k bits, but i cant farm 100k easily
Wouldnt be worth leveling my shovel or any other stuff that isnt the bit multiplier over 10k
cuz i would have to spend too long trying to get 1 lvl on something that is not influencing my bits gain
like here: No point trying to level the sprouts growth above 12.8k, not before i can start to easily farm around 50k or more bits, got the idea?
where do the new weapon recipes drop?
thats how i level my bits stuff
yeah thanks
task board merit and task
u see? this is very underleveled, cuz i can get 1k bits in a few claims
so i'll work on that later
wiki says armor is task 2-5, does that mean weapons are after for 6-10?
thata basicaly how u catch up when u are "stuck" on bits
yes and the scarf is in the latter half
thoughts on the respawn keychains?
10/10
best in slot for afk fighting
nice for the classes like bb and bm
yeah, BIS for deathnote farming
So worth for doing super chows?
id say
i got it for slab
if u have the gems ye
BIS for drop rate also
but otherwise, only a bit better then the other DR hat
might not seem much but sometimes u are just a few points away from DR breakpoints
thats true
didnt know there was another premium DR hat
theres another DR hat?
and drop rate in premium hat slot is nice
😮
efaunts helm is what i was talkin about
ah, different slots
Who is the best for dropping cards active and afk?
i had heard afk bonus above 100 only counts of your 150%+ anyone know for sure?
so get the Respawn chains for BB & SB gmush farmer and DR hat for ES yeye?
Im on rift 41, thinking of going to 46. Thing is my BB only has 4m kills. Think it's even worth superchowing rift?
My kph on bb is down to like 500-600k now
Is it Vman or DK?
Or bubo?
Active is ES and afk is probably vman
Might be question for #endgame-gen-chat I feel like you way ahead than most of us 😂
All OGs banned 
I'd do it, it'll only be harder later thanks to that scaling

All hail
Unless w6 dmg scaling is as brutal as w5. "oh you have billions of dmg? well here's quadrillions"
what can i do for active play
if my only two non ancient artifacts are opera mask and socrates is it worth using gems on? I havew 3k gems left
ES get rares, cards, greenstack, farm w5 boss keys.
Bubo active CC, money, easy alchemy.
DK, farm some statues, pens etc. ?
Farming crystals, using bubonic for water, or ES for monster mats are the main active stuff
greenstacks are stacks of 10mil right?
what level should cc be when i start using it
As high as you can, but not if it interferes with being able to one-shot things
Every little but will help, so low level is OK just not ideal
Yea that's fine, remember to equip the big bubble too
The last w5 map is best, OJ is second, and floms is third
For Bubo CC read this:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
i got all big bubbles equipped with the pet
I should probably actually update it and put in more effort into it but it still gives some basics of where u can cc
finally xd
WOOT WOOOT!!!!
were you in w5 when you got it
yup
gg
Impressive
just asking, why didnt you get it sonner?
i never cared i guess. once i reached w4 i just had all my chars except 1 in lab
after i reached w5 i had all my chars in divinity
and i only played the ES since w4
Yeh Maestro* id suggest getting by w3 or so already. since it will help 3D samples a lot, which makes w4 easier. etc.
Logi did push through w4 very quickly though
isnt VMan W1 W2 W3 100k kills on all mobs? ^^
Do you mean mman?
Wow the pace of the game has picked up a lot
I'd be so overwhelmed if I started rn lol
well i paid 125€ since then
it boosted me quite alot early game
bundles op op
Bro you and I are legit the exact same story rn lmao
Started in May, got to w5 in a few weeks, basically kept everyone in lab/div and only played my ES. Got my maestro in w4 tho lol
I did the mistake of using DK, accuracy was such a struggle when rushing xD
(for the +50% for dk dmg)
Sheesh nice lol
3 more eldritch till im done with sailing and can add another date to the list 😄
Yeah riftwalker wings basically made w1-w3 a breeze and then w4 doable
Plus all the candies from the spring event
Ez money
Damn that's better sailing than I have lmao
Yeh, i started right after the valentines event and missed out on that, was praying for easter one which was also "skipped or replaced" by the later spring one 😦
Those candies would be really nice, just overall those drops, the skilling pearls all that stuff makes 3D prints more op
Cant compare my sailing with anyone, as i've been super lucky throughout
Take the luck where you can get it
Dude w5 is hard, (I'm w2)
Hardest part of w5 is all the rng
my bubo on phone make around 75k sec and on pc around 180k. Do u have idea why?
is snail or fist recipe worst
What phone?
oneplus 8t 😄
Could be companions being broke on ios and not giving you the bubble?
Check out those dates:
https://i.imgur.com/ZeT81ZU.png






