lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[raven vale]

unless you hit the lottery

[vapid wraith]

kattlekruk?

[obsidian flicker]

Guess I’ll stay gone then at least he added a pity for those that stay though

[heavy yoke]

506$ to pity

[weary hinge]

the pity is still for the whales.

[heavy yoke]

Only 8 AAA games worth of money

[obsidian flicker]

Glad he managed to break my addiction to this game lol

[raven vale]

There's a reason all major games companies love mobile

[weary hinge]

did he address the outrage of the last update or?

[dapper prism]

or that all major games add ingame purchases now.. like nearly every single game has stuff (unless its singleplayer)

[heavy yoke]

I still remember "Do you guys not have phones?"

[edgy osprey]

That note of his sure is one of the statements of all time

[raven vale]

Assassins creed is basically single player, still got MTX

[weary hinge]

rainbow horses, yes.

[heavy yoke]

Nah, called the ones who still play his true community and moved on

[obsidian flicker]

I don’t mind MTX when reasonable

[weary hinge]

oh.

[heavy yoke]

You can read it, it's in the future content blog

[narrow cloak]

if i've done the red headband quest with all characters and sold them all am i never getting it for slab?

[worn pasture]

Is Mob respawn trinket worth it

[raven vale]

I dont mind dopamine for dollars either, its just lame when nothing comes from your dollars

[raven vale]

Much good

[dapper prism]

very wow

https://tenor.com/view/meme-doge-much-doge-very-skill-very-meme-gif-5207405

[weary hinge]

i did, but i just cant. i have several questions, still

[heavy yoke]

You actually release more dopamine when it's uncertain if you get the reward 🙂

[raven vale]

Then it rapidly evaporates when you get nothing in return

[heavy yoke]

Click button again, get a new dose

[grand karma]

so gambling addiction basically lol

[near goblet]

gacha is high risk high reward, you feel better if you get something after 573 attempts rather than you know you will definetly get it after 100 attempts

[raven vale]

give it to me

[echo hare]

Wait for character #11

[dapper prism]

I got my doot at like 3.5k green gems, wasn't even going to buy the extra ones but someone in voice chat dared me

[narrow cloak]

oof, thanks. how often does the dev increase the max character count?

[dapper prism]

Nice dopamine

[raven vale]

hahaha grats

[lusty thorn]

What he say ?

[echo hare]

It's random , as it is with all his decision as of lately

[near goblet]

nice

doot haver ew

but nice

[heavy yoke]

Yeah.
Before I never really understood (more than conceptually) how people could get so addicted to gambling, whether mobile games or casinos.
After this update I have a better understanding.

[dapper prism]

Think someone was claiming 12 in total by w8 release at least. Due to some reason i forgot but it made sense when they said it

[heavy yoke]

Probably to get all classes?

13 if we get 6 new elite classes makes sense

[dapper prism]

The worst part is i know some people who spent 200+ bucks, and like today another 100. then fully quit. It's like, The game doesn't really change in a negative way for not having doot, and that money was then just wasted for nothing tbh, ruining what you've been playing or doing.

[dapper prism]

But the new classes are promotions on the current classes

[heavy yoke]

Is that confirmed?

[dapper prism]

Based on dungeon and the icons there it's very linear. Plus also linear in family tree unless ui would be changed.

[raven vale]

BB respawn mechanic W8 incoming

[dapper prism]

Even the family tree looks like:
https://i.imgur.com/Si9j4IN.png

Could potentially add 2 in each upper one to make it more interesting. would force people to not have classes then xD

[median oxide]

why did green gems increase in price

[grand karma]

he will still be cooking 3 worlds later lol

[raven vale]

lmao

[heavy yoke]

It's because we will get outran by everyone with doot.
It's a social game where we compare ourselves.
Plus what if w6 stuff is balanced around getting for example refinery omni procs on all your characters to rank up salts?

[zinc torrent]

yea, he said he is making money so the haters are obviously wrong

[raven vale]

We'll have a new companion to cook for us by then. 5k green gems

[bright current]

Could be that he lets you choose which of the final you want, its only locked to class not sub class

[dapper prism]

I get that part. But with W5 alone RNG is so damn heavy that it's already hard or bad enough to compare. Since a lot is barely skill or strat.

[raven vale]

Eg: Gold Nuggets

1 lucky roll of the spade and boom you're way ahead for the next while

[heavy yoke]

Pretty sure my nugget is what's preventing me from getting to the next fun mechanic in snail

[dapper prism]

E.g. I've been so damn lucky with artifacts, things like Fury took me a few days, others were stuck on it for a month+. I have nearly every single eldritch artifact soon (3 left) and i started the game 4 months ago. Yes I min max, but a ton of it was also lucky af early on with my nugget, then Sailing artifacts left and right, only like 2 or 3 proper dry streaks that came back with extreme luck streaks.

[dapper prism]

And Snail now too

Big boi rng

[raven vale]

Yeah its overall difficult to compare to anyone because you could just be lucky/unlucky

[scarlet bay]

is log game just pure rng? i was trying to follow the stars as the cards flipped but i definitely got a skull on one that was a star when it flipped lol

[heavy yoke]

Yes

[raven vale]

There will always be disparity because of min max but it's lame when people don't have a chance to be even at all

[serene forum]

Gg

[serene forum]

Whats your damage?

[dapper prism]

And the other is time played. The amount of times people say "why is ur alch so low" and it's like.. Because you cant compare people who play for a few months vs over a year on stuff thats time gated like alchemy (daily atoms and NBLB procs) for example. It does get a bit rough.

I love the comparing aspect, and i am/was with people in dm's a lot. we'd post pics of the artifacts etc. but then as said, I'd get like 4 eldritch within 2-3 days and vroooom im gone.

[opaque sun]

log card flipping is just cosmetic

[dapper prism]

ES 500b +/- probably higher now (depends on card thats doubling blitz troll + MK)

[serene forum]

Im having a hard time figuring out how people do 100 alch a day

[serene forum]

How dd are you getting 500b?

[raven vale]

cranium cooking and mad 3D prints for materials

[serene forum]

Ive bee playing for 2 years and only at 1000m. I akf a lot. But still should be close to a 4 month

[serene forum]

But dosent alch atoms bubble perk max at like 50 a day?

[weary hinge]

am i tripping or the cost of orange slices/nachochips reduced by a zero on the last digit?

[serene forum]

Bro how are you getting 500b rofl. Posts like these make me feel like i missed a game mechanic

[scarlet bay]

yooo got a traffic cone off lampars

[dapper prism]

I just min max a ton.
At 15k+ WIS, not sure in AFK setup atm so only at 386b dmg atm
You setup stuff like this?
https://i.imgur.com/xlEEmEN.png

[scarlet bay]

easy +1 slab

[serene forum]

Is it good? I dropped it and seitched maps

[dapper prism]

just a slab unlock, the starter hats

[scarlet bay]

it's just a starter hat lol

[serene forum]

What the fuck? 15k wis wirh 4 months playing? How are you timegated bro

[weary hinge]

he has tooth ache. that might be it.

[dapper prism]

My main stat bubbles are still "low", just squeezed out anything else i could find:
https://i.imgur.com/VcLiy9D.png

[serene forum]

And how is this even possible. Make a guild please. Or share the one your using

Also whats your alch generally looking like?

Nvm

[scarlet bay]

finally spent the little bit of green gems i bought back when companions dropped, was holding them until the next update lol

[serene forum]

My main stats are around there. I average around 200 across all bubbles

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/NKu3Nd6.png

[scarlet bay]

i sure do love molti

[dapper prism]

Need to touch up some of those bubbles so NBLB doesn't hit them

[serene forum]

So im trying to understand how you have 15k wis. I only have like 5k but my alch is similar to yours.

Can you please look at my IE?

[dapper prism]

Write in DM's and I can do some side-by side screenies of our tabs

[serene forum]

Not even close to to 500b in def probably missing a game mechanic

[sweet mountain]

Huh.. can you lower a bubble level?

[gusty belfry]

Anyone else lose some damage after the update?

[left igloo]

Too afraid to use the new upgrade stone

[drifting swan]

2500 xp and 724 laaaary?! In 4 months?!

[weary hinge]

its so satisfying to 1shot kattlekrunk, but i still need doot. dammit

[dapper prism]

Why lower?
No I look at NBLB and if it hits something that's easy to farm like this then i would rather grind the mats on ES quickly and do a bunch of lvls in it so nblb hits something harder like salt or trapping cost bubbles
https://i.imgur.com/e0JvOfs.png

[gentle furnace]

you upgrade them so they are not the lowest and nblb doesnt hit them

[dapper prism]

Just active on Bubo?

[dapper prism]

I went from 2k to 2.5k GT today alone? Would be more if i wasn't focusing on Capacity

[scarlet bay]

ES portal mobs can't drop rare drops right?

[dapper prism]

Do you all not CC?

[scarlet bay]

so DK is better for farming them?

[drifting swan]

Holy fuck I need to start using Bubo

[dapper prism]

I get an alch skip like this every 15mins
https://i.imgur.com/SrqExqX.png

that's 101h of alch every ~15mins

https://i.imgur.com/dJWlPgp.png

First i went to Level 100 Rate to min max my water gains

Then GT (i did do some GT early on)

Min max bubbles => Focused Larry first to net the most out of other bubble upgrades. 🤷

[serene forum]

I only get like 15k seconds max holy shit

[drifting swan]

Yea I need to push my Cooking roadkill bubble

1 every 15 minutes is mad

[serene forum]

I sent you my ie https://slarror.idleonefficiency.com/

[dapper prism]

Whats your aura/Tente like?
https://i.imgur.com/O16qWie.png

ah ill browse your IE

[serene forum]

Lmfao

[dapper prism]

First issue, why 7 minibosses?

[serene forum]

Okay man

You weren’t playing when you said min max

Elderich fury?

[sweet mountain]

Oh. I see. Still useful tip. I asked about lowering so I could lower the useless bubbles to below 5 so they never are chosen by NBLB

[serene forum]

Fuck i am ashamed of my ie

[dapper prism]

Fury?
https://i.imgur.com/EUIsnSi.png

[dapper prism]

Nawh but thats why you can keep some bubbles like this at 1
https://i.imgur.com/hNozhQM.png

So that your Atom NBLB hits the cooking stuff so you can atom the cooking bubble easier/quicker

[sweet mountain]

But you are not considering that I was stupid and sometimes leveled up bubbles just for the sake of leveling them up before even knowing NBLB was a thing >.<

[dapper prism]

Gaming, unlock mutations of plants, do NOT let your genes stack up too high. There's very rough diminishing returns.

[dapper prism]

Yeh, that yellow one is the only one i have at 1

[serene forum]

Can you share your IE?

[feral hemlock]

Decent right 😉

I wonder if its good enough for my first ship

[serene forum]

Feels like im missing a mechanic. How are you getting 1000 skills and 15k wisdom with a 200 avg alchemy?

[dapper prism]

Split your golden hampters, more on warris with gold food talent. I ran sailing bubble and 6-7x omni for a while.
Get easy hampters while bubo CC with maxed crystal chance stuff.

[cedar zenith]

! Gear

[dapper prism]

I don't update my IE anymore since else any progress is blamed on doot.

This is my IE on 6/11 (3 month idleversary)
https://trickzbunny.idleonefficiency.com/players

[sweet mountain]

okay. I guess will take at least a few weeks before I can afford the next upgrade now 😦

[cedar zenith]

! Gear

[dapper prism]

I will put our IE side by side (with my present one) and take some screenies on important pages and DM them.

[nova river]

Been lurking post-Doot release to see what kind of comment Lava would make on all the upset.

[dapper prism]

but for starters, if your CC is only 15k that's already a big issue itself

[nova river]

Don't know why I'm somewhat surprised to see he's totally unapologetic about it

Goodbye everyone, hope everyone who's staying has fun.

[dapper prism]

Gz, snail will help

gotta afk for 10-15min

[near goblet]

What are your guesses, how much rng will world 6 skills have

[deft grail]

considering w5 progress is entirely RNG based already, all of it

[barren veldt]

Is new boss armour worse than magma?

[serene forum]

Thanks!🙏

[hollow wasp]

dont we love rng

[barren otter]

im 2 short of 245 max talent lvl and can not figure out where the last 2 levels come from

[lean thistle]

how do I check slab?

[barren otter]

anyone know of anything that gives +1/+2 to max talent lvl?

[near goblet]

salt upgrade?

[patent surge]

So

Doomge update

Or copable

[barren otter]

oh yup thats it

ty

[near goblet]

he didnt change much about the main issue

[patent surge]

Dejj

[sweet mountain]

Yeah. For me the main issue was that it uses a new type of currency and that free rolls can't be cashed in for scrapped gems. Those problems remain.

[hollow wasp]

200 try guaranteed doot

[near goblet]

508$

[hollow wasp]

so is only 100$ or smth for doot 😛

[near goblet]

yes thank you

[hollow wasp]

whut 508 rly

[near goblet]

100$ for 200 pulls? what game you playin

[hollow wasp]

i have 40 pulls with 47$ i think

or 42$

[near goblet]

yeah but cost scales up

[hollow wasp]

hmmm ye you right

[fallow pawn]

w5 boss boots better than magma core? losing 4% all stat seems bad (craft once for drop rate setup i guess)

[sweet mountain]

Maybe that was because of the bundle that was cost effective and the cost also scales up

[hollow wasp]

also does the chance 😛

[near goblet]

having cost increase

is the most disgusting thing i ever seen

i'd rather watch gore than that

[hollow wasp]

😮

[narrow cloak]

do i need to put in 10 points in polytheism to have snake as my 2nd link on es? i have 0 in right now, it says i have snehebatu 2nd link but i don't think i'm getting the 30% afk

[hallow flint]

I'm going out with a laugh, been fun though

[dapper prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1081405137207169115/Idleon_Polytheism_GuideV2.png

[hallow flint]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/14npupx/i_added_a_fun_new_gacha_feature_to_my_game_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[narrow cloak]

0 ends in 0 but i'm not getting the afk gains i think

[dapper prism]

You should be, easy to test, change talent, to 1, reload map/gemshop for ui changes, then check afk info again

[narrow cloak]

73 with 0 in the talent and 60 with not 0

i only lose 13 % so i'm not getting it,

even tho it does say linked both on the god and on the talent

[ashen marsh]

should i always put it on speed?

[quartz pollen]

So as an f2p player, I can get doot in 4 years? pog

[raven vale]

No ,it'll rotate out before then

[bright current]

thats not the best way to look at it

you cang et him in ONLY 4 years

there u go

[quartz pollen]

[narrow cloak]

in at most 4 years

[bright current]

almost certainly 4 years

200 pulls is below the average i believe

[ornate sail]

Anyone else lost their pets? Keeps saying loading time for my free pet and lost the others I’ve got

[quartz pollen]

Without the guaranteed mechanic, it was around 30+ years if you put doot drop chance in a guaranteed drop calculator, though it isn't including the treats lvl

[dapper prism]

Off to bed, gn and gl on your gains!

[narrow cloak]

0.28% is 1 in 357 so it was 6 years and that's ignoring that odds increase

oh you mean guaranteed, it's 6 years average

[heavy yoke]

The last roll has to be paid FYI

[narrow cloak]

lmao, you have 200 rolls without doot and it won't let you free roll?

[heavy yoke]

Not me, someone else

It will probably let you roll, but won't give guaranteed Doot unless you pay for the roll

[quartz pollen]

50% is 4 years, 99% is 31 years

[noble hound]

Wow he got to 200 rolls already? Im at 100 and still no doot. Costing me a fortune

[quartz pollen]

lol, guess i'm not getting doot then unless I have unbelievable luck

[serene forum]

ROFL

[heavy yoke]

Same

[patent surge]

what the ufck is this man

[serene forum]

Holy crap that has to be a troll

[weary hinge]

but its not

[viral snow]

maybe try gettinng some bad luck IRL so you can be lucky for doot
Like getting hit by a car or so

[heavy yoke]

Do you not like RNG and having to remake armor????

[patent surge]

bro i can't image trying to make another set of pants just for more damage

[viral snow]

Thats an armor upgrade stone

[patent surge]

ig i finish 23 more hampter and let es/dk afk at moles

[haughty cove]

can some one send the picture of new chizore blanked

the red one

[patent surge]

9

[torn dune]

4 armor 4 weapons and a pendant

[narrow cloak]

looks like you need to put at least 1 point into polytheism for it to work, having 0 says you're linked to the snake but doesn't give the bonus

[zealous niche]

10 is the lowest level to get snake

[zealous niche]

Oof

[narrow cloak]

yeah i didn't realize that, noticed today that my afk gains are way too low on es

[zealous niche]

iOS have temporarily lost their pets, they’re still there but just need to connect through another platform

[tropic kiln]

is es better than bubo at farming boss keys since they are on tremor

[thin rose]

Yeah someone said yesterday once they logged in on steam their pets came back on ios

[weary oracle]

is the new boss gear better than magma?

[timid belfry]

Yes, but u also need magma to upgrade to the new boss gear

[opaque sun]

ES should be better at keys

[weary oracle]

I'm pretty much full magma, but my bubo doesn't need respawn increases at all so surely the %stats would make magma superior?

[balmy solstice]

how do you get the new trophy?

[opaque sun]

only reason bubo wins with money is he gets most crystal kills

for active, you only need head and boot skull armor

Body and pants doesnt do much for active

[unborn niche]

Is boss key in loot table without any requirements?
Or need to have quest?

[opaque sun]

For afk, body and pants are good, and head and boots also good if drop related

[weary hinge]

lootable

[opaque sun]

just look at the cards from moles-wurms

[unborn niche]

OK nice
My bowman is in cumsocks afk 3 days lol

[hexed pine]

so

anyone already kileld kurtakakaktu or smt yet

[opaque sun]

everyone but you, yes

[hexed pine]

dawg im just askin

[sinful granite]

i dont want to waste keys, so i killed them all. but what happens if the moles reach me or the boss?

[hexed pine]

no need to drag me into this

[opaque sun]

Its just a stationary totem that summons big moles

[opaque sun]

Mole just deals same damage as normal mob. And if it touches kattle, it just heals kattle

[sinful granite]

thanks

[opaque sun]

only way to die is if for some reason you are weaker than mole

Lava just went “nobody cares of a boss fight, its just a dps check”

[acoustic canyon]

wait this boss is a joke

[opaque sun]

its just an oversized amarok healing totem

[valid ledge]

does this effect afk?

[teal lynx]

I am not even sure what the Boss does. I just hit it 3 times and it dies

[valid ledge]

it spawns mobs around it and if those mobs touch the boss, then it heals
so its an insta kill if you have enough dmg ig

[opaque sun]

boss itself doesnt do anything

Moles just spawn and head towards kattle to heal it

[teal lynx]

Well maybe on Nightmare i can finally see those Moles

[opaque sun]

the merit task requires you to wait till it heals so you will see it

[teal lynx]

Oh okay. Still need more keys to go through the Tasks

[opaque sun]

There isnt much point just killing it since most of the benefit is the recipe than the drop itself

[dim silo]

Can i have goharut linked on es, and with the skill be linked to arctic

To gain divinity without being in lab or divinity?

[void ivy]

you dont get divinity unfortunatley

i think

[dim silo]

Ah

Cuz arctic states u dont get lab exp spesifically

[opaque sun]

goat requires physical presence in lab. Its just that simple

arctis doesnt disable lab exp. It just means it places a decoy instead that cant produce lab exp if you are away from lab

[fair root]

ye, you can for example still get lab exp from bubo talent

[thorn marsh]

is there an optimal class setup for endgame labs?

[opaque sun]

Doot

Class and lab doesnt have much relation by the way

[thorn marsh]

uhm, bubo?

[viral snow]

would recommend a bubo for lab tho

[elder shuttle]

the feeling when u leave ur char active overnight but forget to click auto on

[opaque sun]

you place bubo on far right of board. Done

End game you dont even care lab exp

[thorn marsh]

well there has to be some strat when comparing divinity bonuses for the specific classes

I'm not talking exp I'm talking endgame bonus setup

[opaque sun]

6 man lab has nothing to do with class

only mildly class related is bubo on far right to activate his skill exp bonus to everyone on the left

and “optimal” lab is doot to light all

[thorn marsh]

o'rly? :p

[opaque sun]

6 man lab to light everything but cooking jewel and orange damage jewel, or just get doot

[near goblet]

wait, which?

[opaque sun]

Like class got nothing to do with lab setup

[opaque sun]

Like around chaotic boss one

Says to kill kattle after being healed by moles few times

[near goblet]

atleast its not as bad as the do 20 tasks from the troll

[opaque sun]

so you would have to intentionally wait around for the moles to reach kattle and kill him

[hollow wasp]

good morning all

[opaque sun]

Last one is “kill nightmare kattle on 10 char in order”

Which means farm 700keys

[near goblet]

ew

[viral snow]

will doot be mine soon ?

[opaque sun]

Yes in 4 years minus 2 weeks and 55 min

[red slate]

I'm so close to this step

[red slate]

soon, just need to wait 198 rolls

[opaque sun]

and pay for cheapest gem pack available in 2027 june

[balmy solstice]

or just get lucky and get it quick

[viral snow]

https://i.imgur.com/CNVazRc.png
really need to get mine up

[opaque sun]

That requires to save like 500k puppies in real life to build up your karma

[red slate]

this helped me a lot (around +25%)

[balmy solstice]

I got doot from the pack, only one im missing now is the rift boi

[teal lynx]

I assume lava is gonna reset the Pity with each rotation. So the Pity is not gonna do anything for f2p

[red slate]

he said that rotations will not happen soon so who knows

[viral snow]

gotte reach wave 80 arena for that right ?

[teal lynx]

Oh i did not know that Information. But 4 years to implement rotations? Idk about that

[glacial venture]

hm...is the kruk gear even worth it? i mean i lose on 4% all stats by switching...hm

[sharp wind]

As long as it could be im sure its not gonna be as long as 200 weeks

[red slate]

no, it's based on VIP library, so just the plates you unlock. I'm not lv50 in arena yet

[viral snow]

damn really forgot about that garlic bread

[bright current]

we could be looking at it all wrong. doot is now a "standard pull" kinda top pet, being available at all times.

So the future ones might be WAY stronger

ide believe it

cuz green gems are funni munni

[deft grail]

Who knows what horrors beyond our comprehension the next rotation will have

[red slate]

not sure, maybe the top ones will always stay there and only lower level ones will rotate. At least I hope so because being f2p I'll need more than 3 years to get doot so if he adds more it's purely pay to win

[sharp wind]

Every talents x2

[opaque sun]

Generally for fighting the dr is better than stats

And respawn is effectively fight afk

But magma is better for mining/chopping samples

Archers are pretty much fine to go full skull gears

other miner and choppers may want to consider making a separate mining/chopping magma before making them into skull gears

[grim rock]

whatto buy

[opaque sun]

For active farmers, they only need the skull head and boots

Get the 1 gem item first

Rest is up to you

The respawn keychain is the only brand new item, rest are retuning items

[steady token]

does the new npc give w5 boss keys daily?

[opaque sun]

just one time. Rest are farmable from moles-wurms

[edgy osprey]

Is it me or is the amount of kills bb gets shit compared to.... everything else, basically?

[stoic verge]

Do i have to have every artifact on ancient befor i can start on eldritch?

[opaque sun]

During afk? BB Shouldn’t be that shit

[edgy osprey]

250k/h on lamps

[stoic verge]

So i can start on eldritch even if i dont have all artifacts?

[opaque sun]

either you have wrong prayers or you just neglected bb

[edgy osprey]

Neglected is a strong word. His skills aren't top, but they aren't shit, gear is the same as dk, do that can't be it....

[opaque sun]

like just compare the rest of the afk info (mk tiers, afk gain) with others to know whats wrong

[zealous niche]

You need the ancient form of that specific artifact before you can get eldritch of it (provided you have the eldritch rift unlocked)

[stoic verge]

Im about to

Im at the last rift before it

[edgy osprey]

Although it is only 150k less than on my SB, which is prolly best of the bunch, so dunno

[zealous niche]

Nice

[opaque sun]

compare the afk info of BB and afk of another better guy and you can see whats missing

[zealous niche]

So any artifacts currently at ancient can be farmed again for eldritch

[stoic verge]

And i dont have all artifacts yet but all i have are anchient

Nice thank you

[opaque sun]

If mk tier is low, its just lack damage (ignored doing zow for example)

If afk gain is low, the sb has better chips or gears

If mk tier is same, but low mk, bb has less mk per tier bonuses

[quartz fiber]

Hey! Best card to cardify??

[edgy osprey]

My zow is (except for W5 mobs, maybe) done
Chips are switched
Mk....should be the same? I think?

[opaque sun]

As i said, check the afk info and compare the afk info

That is the best summary to see what he lacks compared to sb

[edgy osprey]

Well then, let's see

[hollow wasp]

i want my main pusher to have highest tools aswell due the stats right

[opaque sun]

yes and no

when you dedicate a pusher, tool stats isnt really that detrimental at that stage

And by the time you can start min maxing stats via tools, you should be in the position where you dont care of having a main pusher as you would open portal on all

[pulsar cliff]

Finallllly

[hollow wasp]

okay i see, ty

[hollow wasp]

theres a max of stuff 😮

[pulsar cliff]

More so meant the 100% chance to double statues but yeah level 13 is 1b of a mat

[hollow wasp]

still not super sure what i should do rn. i still have 8 chars on divinity as i need 130 more hours for baer and my ES is slowly pushing w5 with idk 1200kph

[hollow wasp]

lol

[gentle inlet]

Pain, more than two weeks i'm try to get the ancient version

[dusty sand]

Someone be so nice and help me with the peak gaming quest with chars with letter P and S? Maybe?

[bright quail]

is lava back since theres a new update?

[gentle inlet]

Sure find me in pizza server 1 in world 1 town

[zealous niche]

#💖future-content-blog

[barren otter]

failed 4 stones

[heady scaffold]

and this is why you use normal w5 stones

[tropic kiln]

no all stat ?

[glacial venture]

hm...somehow my sb lost about 50% dmg....

[barren otter]

i was feeling adventurous

[heady scaffold]

adventurous on an expensive slab item

[barren otter]

its still useful for ES

[safe tangle]

Is magma still best?

[heady scaffold]

best unless you very specifically want dr and dont care about losing dmg

[safe tangle]

Fair

[heady scaffold]

kattlekruk is less stat, so pretty sure its a dmg loss

[opaque sun]

for farming head and boots are nice active

and full set is okay for afk farming archers

Miners and choppers may want to keep magma until you can make a separate set

[runic girder]

How do you fail kattlekrunk...

[patent surge]

2 more and i'm done until i decide i want the weapons

[heady scaffold]

have shit dmg maybe?

[near goblet]

You dont

[runic girder]

Still would get you the kill eventually rifght?

Just takes a second

[heady scaffold]

the thing supposedly heals, idk how strong the heal is

1 shot all 3 difficulties

[runic girder]

I cant even get keys

Took like half an hour to get 1

[near goblet]

If you cant even get keys probably ignore the boss

[runic girder]

Well i easily killed the first difficulty

[patent surge]

i feel likei get 10 keys a hour

orom sehting

[runic girder]

Just waiting for the dungeon mini boss dropping like 100 keys

[heady scaffold]

i had chars at the last maps, so basically logged on to a bunch of keys when the update dropped

[opaque sun]

if you can die to a mole, you can fail kattle

[near goblet]

Sad life

[heady scaffold]

currently doing the quests and farming keys for the last task

[tacit tulip]

finally unlocked 5* cards

[near goblet]

Lava could have made it slightly more challanging instead of being a damage sponge based on your progress

[runic girder]

Off to a decent start

[severe trout]

I prefer that then an other troll like one 😅

[heady scaffold]

nightmare has 1q hp, enough for most players i think

[near goblet]

Reading hard

[teal lynx]

Active ES or DK for Recipe Drops?

[edgy osprey]

How do you get the new trophy?

[zealous niche]

From the new mole quest isn’t it

[runic girder]

Okay that might be a bit out of my league

[edgy osprey]

Ha, shit

[zealous niche]

You can’t fail it though 😉

[runic girder]

Actually depends how much it heals, i can do a few billion per hit with abilities

[near goblet]

(if you can die to mole, yes)

[heady scaffold]

billion, trillion, q

[runic girder]

I skipped trillion

Yeh nvm what i said

[viral snow]

Doot time ??
https://i.imgur.com/L2aKCFS.png

[near goblet]

Sandy pot

[viral snow]

https://i.imgur.com/8CWndX8.png

[runic girder]

Lmfao

[near goblet]

I called it

[viral snow]

Wizard

[severe trout]

Sad life

[teal lynx]

I got Bloque

[left fossil]

Is it me or does the new quest to kill biggole moles not account for multi kill when playing active?

[runic girder]

Got 6th sheepie

[near goblet]

It doesnt

[left fossil]

Then it's correct my SB and BB got over 1m kills for quest in 1 hour and active my ES hasn't reached 80k in 3 hours >.>

[tacit tulip]

Every quest works like this btw

[left fossil]

never noticed

[viral snow]

I got sheepie first free roll atleast

[near goblet]

Lava code moment

Oh right I can do my companion pukl

[stiff geyser]

Stones look okay but it's going to be annoying playing Russian roulette for min maxing it

[foggy kindle]

goodbye fellas, i was banned on redit for posting this

[true kestrel]

I can't wait for next week for my 4th bean.

[near goblet]

Will I reach 10 Sandy pots? I hope

[sweet mountain]

This is going to take a long ass time >.<

[near goblet]

#1124636900062408744 message

[strange tendon]

I like how I can't play the game on my phone for the past 2 months and he no one fixes it

Becuase I crash instantly

And I reported it alot of time

[near goblet]

Uninstall, Install, delete cache, tried Everything?

[strange tendon]

Yeah

[near goblet]

What phone you got?

[strange tendon]

Android Samsung galaxy s20 fe

I know the crash is linked to the atom collider

[viral snow]

thats your issue buying a samsung

[honest timber]

Where and how would you farm as many obol shards as possible?

[strange tendon]

Probably becuase he reseted my atoms when the ship bug with gold trade happend

[near goblet]

Cant help a Samsung

[strange tendon]

Nice

[viral snow]

atleast it didnt explode in your pocket (yet)

[manic elbow]

I don't know who said it'd take me 107 days but
Rank 6 mushroom babyyyy

[strange tendon]

I have played a long time on my Samsung it's not that

[viral snow]

just buy a 3k Gaming pc for idleon and roblox
you will be fine then

[strange tendon]

It's a problem with the game code and save file

Everytime the game tries to save to the cloud I crash

On my pc I can play

But that trash

I wanna play on phone

[viral snow]

Cant you just close the game on phone?
it should save to cloud anyway then

like force close or w/e its called on android

[strange tendon]

I tried that

It's not what I mean

Like every time the game cloud save I crash

If I log in and don't crash from something that force save it

I crash from periodic save

[near goblet]

lava code is lava code

[strange tendon]

Yeah

[near goblet]

what do you expect from a game where you can edit the js and your stats

[narrow cloak]

are the divinity gain bonuses from the different god blessings multiplicative or additive?

[sweet mountain]

really, didnt even knew that... wow, that's lame.

[zealous niche]

Use DK, probably w2 crystals, either sandy pots or snelbies, or w3 crystals, bloodbones work nicely

[opaque sun]

w2 obol are much worth more frags due to more silvers and gold

[ebon thunder]

What does the infinite starsign mean? Is it like passive?

[near goblet]

yes

[hollow wasp]

should i use time candy to get maestro?

well nvm

[next iron]

did lava change doot pet to only give all bonuses after unlocking them now?

[covert sphinx]

i just lost like half my construction speed, went from 120m to 70m, anyone know why?

[hollow wasp]

just remembered its 10kxp/h and one lvl is like 80k

[near goblet]

dk?

[covert sphinx]

yes

[ebon thunder]

So that means that no longer have to align the starsign that is infinite to get the bonus?

[near goblet]

yeah, but you still need to align them if you wanna use starsign doubler

[fallow pawn]

maybe most of your red salt is gone? @covert sphinx

[ebon thunder]

I see, tq

[opaque sun]

You dont even have to unlock the starsign to get the effect if infinite

[covert sphinx]

figured it out, my other dk didnt have red salts leveled on his other tab

[hollow wasp]

arent mistery stones super trash?=

[opaque sun]

its okay to get a deathlycluster pendant of respawn 12%

[fallow pawn]

oh never thought of it, i should do that @opaque sun

[opaque sun]

its pretty much the only use now with mystery stone aside from all stat stamp

Mystery 2 and 3 has no use as it just has a chance to fail when you only care for a misc +1 roll

[graceful island]

Can anyone else confirm that levelling you vial talent no longer carries over to your other loadout?

[opaque sun]

deathly cluster 12% kind of now outdated tho, as we now have kattle scarf

[near goblet]

why would leveling a talent carry over to a different preset

[fallow pawn]

is there a screen of all the new items? lava only posted like 4

[zealous niche]

Because it used to

[graceful island]

The vial one that boosts other skill level supposedly did

[near goblet]

what

[zealous niche]

The vial talent added max levels and those stayed added without levels in the vial talent

[graceful island]

So I'm right in thinking he patched that this update?

Or was it semi recent?

[solid frost]

no, only active skils(with star talent Attacks on simmer) and buffs affect afk.

[covert crown]

Does each character's Box of Gosh (worship P.O. box) boost divinity gain for all other characters or just for them? I just put a bunch of boxes into one character's and while I didn't check what they were at before I did so, afterwards they are still putting out the same amount as all other characters on the same alignment.

[zealous niche]

Should be just for them

[opaque sun]

its just for them. You can even check their multipler to make sure

[fallow pawn]

damn that new w5 boss obol is juicy

i want 20 of them

[opaque sun]

tough choice to replace dr sparkle with afk gain

[fallow pawn]

so many kills/h more, big samples etc, its insane

[gilded vault]

doesn't dr affect samples more ?

[opaque sun]

but generally should go fill the family and skiller’s sparkle with kattle i suppose

[fallow pawn]

it doesnt at all

[opaque sun]

The lost dr can kind of be made up with new dr gears

[fallow pawn]

you can just adjust depending on activity, sampling/deathnote farming 100% afk obols

[opaque sun]

dr affects the physical drop, but doesnt affect samples

Im not going to min max switching sparkles every time i claim characters

[gilded vault]

... My whole life is a lie T_T

[fallow pawn]

dont need to really, i would only use family drop obol when farming something like boss kills/arena etc

[opaque sun]

dr family while active, kattle family when claiming is the theoretical mix max move

but else ill just stick to kattle on family all the time

[fallow pawn]

yep m2, its really good

[opaque sun]

Ill just suck it up the 3 sparkle dr worth of loss

[fallow pawn]

i wanted to candy 1b eldrich skulls soon, now ill focus on getting those obols first i guess

[jagged relic]

200 times before we get doot.....how much money is that????

[fallow pawn]

400-500

[smoky sky]

Is the new gear less damage? Due to no %stats

[jagged relic]

So that makes it even more P2W cos you know if you spend it you'll get it

[opaque sun]

Slightly less damage, but the dr and respawn utility is nice

[fallow pawn]

at least you dont need to spend 1500 😄

[jagged relic]

That's true I suppose

[opaque sun]

overall for active/afk combat skull gears are good

Magma still good for mining/chopping

lava needs to stop with wasting misc slot on total damage

[fallow pawn]

boots only have like total dmg / drop rate, i dont think ill use them. more 4% all stats also gives more kills

[gilded vault]

200 is a lot of draws but the situation is an improvement, I don't get your point.

[fallow pawn]

ill just use them for dk/vman with dropchance

[opaque sun]

for active that dr alone is worth it. Like damage shouldnt be much an issue over a gear slot

[fallow pawn]

but its also less kills, because more main stat = more kills per kill through talent

[opaque sun]

very very very slightly

And kill per kill doesnt contribute to drops

[jagged relic]

Knowing you could spend like £1500 and still not get him might put people off. Now people know it takes 200 attempts, so they might be more likely to spend it

[fallow pawn]

unless i have 1b in all deathnotes i value kills relatively high

[jagged relic]

It just makes it easier for whales

[opaque sun]

Mk type of kills gives more base mats, but kill per kill is just for dn

[steady token]

👀 mining/chopping need magma?

[jagged relic]

F2P players still don't have a chance

[gilded vault]

but it doesn't make it more P2W, just more tempting.

[opaque sun]

yes, you should have been using magma head, body and pants for mining and chopping

[jagged relic]

Okay more P2W might have been the wrong choice of word

[steady token]

iirc, only mining need a chest

[fallow pawn]

its just more tempting because you know just a few more dollars

[opaque sun]

the skill boots are still better than magma tho

[gilded vault]

well yes they do ! it's "only" 200 weeks !

[opaque sun]

magma head performs better than Viking

[near goblet]

Well they don't actually

[opaque sun]

The stat% gives more boost than the skill specific boosts on mining and chopping

[near goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/rotation-smol-spin-gif-26347720

[opaque sun]

200 weeks of f2p where you have to buy the cheapest gem pack anyway on the 200th week

[graceful rivet]

Does gemshop limited specials reset with update

Wondering if I have to reset

[opaque sun]

Resets when lava feels like

[unborn niche]

How many Hp new boss has?
My es has about 8000m dmg

[near goblet]

1b/1t/1q

[opaque sun]

Previous limited item didnt rotate with companion update

[gilded vault]

nightmare has a lot

[near goblet]

wait was it 100b

idk

[leaden shuttle]

I think its 100b

[tiny citrus]

100b/2.5t/1q

[leaden shuttle]

Do minions scale?

[unborn niche]

Think i can only kill chaos then

[near goblet]

no

[fallow pawn]

noo, do i actually need to play the mechanics on nightmare

[covert crown]

Awesome, thanks for answering!

[gilded vault]

100b

[strong socket]

theres no mechanics kek

[near goblet]

the whats?

[fallow pawn]

i dont know, i didnt see any yet

[leaden shuttle]

Idk my 300m ES oneshots all the incoming moles anyway

[near goblet]

you wont see any either

[leaden shuttle]

So its just time ig

[fallow pawn]

if its only time no problem, i just cant oneshot it probably

[covert crown]

Thanks! I didn't think to check the multiplier (I just used the Info tab on altar to see their gains/hr), so I'll definitely do that.

[opaque sun]

kattle itself is just a healing totem

[near goblet]

tbh its sad how low effort kattle is

[gilded vault]

yeah I was disappointed

[opaque sun]

Its a good thing kattle doesnt have any shields as we going to be farming it alot

[fallow pawn]

at least he has a lot of decent loot

[near goblet]

when first seeing kattle card I thought that skull is just placeholder 💀

[fallow pawn]

what does nightmare card do?

[opaque sun]

His cape is kind of meh, but his trophy that requires it is amazing

[fallow pawn]

only have normal and chaos currently

[opaque sun]

And pendant that becomes bis afk gear

[fallow pawn]

ah, his nightmare card is just money%

[gilded vault]

so many more storage space needed 😢

[tacit tulip]

I was actually surprised we didn't get the new gods with this, as kattle is one of them

[hollow wasp]

bruh, i just made some math and it still takes 19h till i got bear ._.

[gritty needle]

hey all, what are some of the best talents to use a max talent book on bubo?

[opaque sun]

Kattle card rate is really bad even at normal

tenteyecle is good for max book if you have enough max book to get 200+, but on its own not 20 books worthy

Not like bubo specific, but the tab1 efficiency and tab2 log on logs are the max book worthy ones

for bubo/shaman specific, cranium cooking is probably worth 20 books as you will be using it alot and want to squeeze as much milage out of it

overall, you get better results just using book normally 20 times unless its for a specific talent with a certain break point you need

[unborn niche]

More power on

[stuck pasture]

Ummm wtf lava

[ancient vine]

In almost 4 years we Will have doot 🥰🥰

[stuck pasture]

Is this a thing? I had all but doot

[viral snow]

log in on steam and all pets should be there again
there have been some with the same bug

[stuck pasture]

Argh… that’s such a pain in the ass with talent points etc lol

[leaden shuttle]

Are kattle stones even worth it?

[zinc torrent]

No we wont

F2p doesnt get pity LOL

[ancient vine]

Why

[zinc torrent]

Greed

[leaden shuttle]

because we are ugly :(

[thin rose]

You could always just ignore pets and keep playing the game

[keen rapids]

Probably not

[ancient vine]

Doot is a very good QoL

[zinc torrent]

Qol?

Man its broken

[thin rose]

Quality of life

[zinc torrent]

Infinite progress

[ancient vine]

For me is for lazy people like me

No needed to change god between week

[zinc torrent]

Dont worry lava sponsored a video it makes up for everything

[keen rapids]

Yh but how much you spending for it :/

[ancient vine]

I tried the Green gems lava put in the store with the wings

I just got crystal and rift Monster so far

No more spend on that

[kindred surge]

Just woke up and seen that Kruk has dropped. On a scale of 1 - 10 how tough is he? 🙂

[tough horizon]

I dont get why he just doesnt fix i t

1

[zinc torrent]

Doesnt move or do anything

[keen rapids]

bruh you'd have to spend about 330$ to buy it for sure ;/

[zinc torrent]

Not creative at all just a tanky statue

[viral snow]

maybe get another one and try again

[zinc torrent]

YEP

Give lava more money w

He deserves it

[keen rapids]

Why is the recipe so cheap :/

[visual lava]

Surely he will spend it on an employee that makes the game better

[sleek tree]

where to drop the magma shoe recipe?

[zinc torrent]

Surely once he has enough money he will focus to make people happy

[coral canopy]

@sacred coral I sincerely wish you the best and hope you find in life what you are looking for. Recent events made me decide I cannot and will not support you or your games anymore. Hopefully you can wake up every morning and look in the mirror not regretting anything and thinking you did good. Enjoy your 'true community'.

[wispy hound]

magma is cheap to make

[zinc torrent]

Banned

[bright current]

anyone elses game crashing since the update?: only noticed it on ES so far

no i wont check bug reportgsd

[zinc torrent]

Nope

[viral snow]

nope my es is active afking for 3hours so far

[zinc torrent]

Just normal crashes because samsung s9 sucks and cant have discord youtube and idleon open at same time

[keen rapids]

Haven't unlocked the other devious divine stuff, but this recipe seems oddly cheap

[viral snow]

how can u be running a s9

[zinc torrent]

Im broke

Jobless

[viral snow]

does it even support android 3 ?

[zinc torrent]

LOL

[ancient vine]

I feel you

[sick sentinel]

Mine did overnight for the first time in a long time, on es as well

[zinc torrent]

Somehow android 10

[ancient vine]

😔

[zinc torrent]

I screenshare on discord at -1080p

[viral snow]

might aswell play on a smartfridge tho

[zinc torrent]

W

[lusty wedge]

S9 only came out 5 years ago, it really isn't that old

[zinc torrent]

Its really bad tho

Its so slow

Nokia faster

[viral snow]

damn thought it was like 10years old

5 years isnt that bad yeh

[dense crater]

Is the tired mole an account quest or quest for every character?

[visual lava]

daily key quest

so for everyone

[zinc torrent]

Im so glad lava giving us f2ps time to get king doot kind man

[steady turret]

Don't worry I'm on a more modern phone and it started lagging when I active a few updates ago

[hidden sphinx]

200 days

[weary hinge]

dude 200 wks is 4yrs

[opaque sun]

Actually you have to pay on 200th week

[hidden sphinx]

Wait no it’s wkly

[steady turret]

In 4 years you'll have your free doot

[weary hinge]

still not worth for f2p

[zinc torrent]

Not true f2p pity doesnt exist

[opaque sun]

if you completely f2p, you dont get to cash in the pity

[visual lava]

still not even f2p

[weary hinge]

still gonna be based on luck

[versed cypress]

its not a daily key quest, its a quest to get massively lucky and get a super good thropy on all characters

[distant idol]

He has it in 200th weeks but only if he isent forgetting to pull

[opaque sun]

The 200th pull needs to be a paid pull to cash in doot tho

[zinc torrent]

Wdym

[viral snow]

in 200 weeks doot will be shit anyways
you will mostlikely get him way earlier if odds are increased through new pets

[zinc torrent]

LOL

[distant idol]

It needs to be 200 paid pulls, ...... ok i think i never get him

[opaque sun]

Free pulls counts towards the meter, but on june 2027 you have to buy the cheapest gem pack at the time

[zinc torrent]

I wonder why f2ps complain so weird....

[hidden sphinx]

What’s kattlkruk health?

[visual lava]

100b/2,5T/1Q

or something

[tough horizon]

just got doot im not mad anymore, you guys just have to pay up

[viral snow]

100b for normal afaik

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah 1B seems a bit low

[visual lava]

dont remember, 1shot anyways

[opaque sun]

Kattle is just a totem with no attacks

[viral snow]

no green gem pack in rotation

[visual lava]

just like every world boss release

[opaque sun]

only way to die is if you can die to the mole mob

[steady turret]

amazing

[hidden sphinx]

Sorry mr “I’m ahead of the update curve”

[zinc torrent]

Yeah

[steady turret]

But what for? Bubo doesn't need it, dk doesn't need it, maybe ES but not really

For active beastmaster?

[visual lava]

siege/hunter gmush

[opaque sun]

afk combat is real big

[steady turret]

Ooh yeah forgot it affects afk

[visual lava]

you still have 9 character afking

[dense eagle]

Do we know what is the last 2 recepies?

[opaque sun]

Like you will at one point have a dedicated gmush farmer if not already

[tacit tulip]

for afk sb should be second behind ES

but you don'ty wanna waste ES on gmush

[opaque sun]

Last 2 recipe is vman gloves and pendant I think

The pendant real strong for afk combat

[weary hinge]

is that 20m?

[visual lava]

ye

[tacit tulip]

Well I don't gotta worry about that, stupid 50m recipe

[weary hinge]

damn

[opaque sun]

wurm 20m is piss easy

[steady turret]

W5 boss armor seems worse? Why did we lose the stat %

[visual lava]

also new speed tier

[opaque sun]

As you will be farming him almost always

[dense eagle]

I have 850m lol working on the 1000

[sick sentinel]

Cause lava doesnt know what is good and what isnt in his game

[dense eagle]

What is the last one then can someone send?

[opaque sun]

magma pants cost got reduced by the way

10m crumbs to 1m

[tacit tulip]

oh shit nice

lava counted his 0's

[steady turret]

I guess I'll try to make it eventually just for the slab

[steady turret]

He's not going to be refunding my crumbs I suppose?

[stiff prairie]

I might get doot once i unlock elphant god.
who knows, lava might make a better pity system by then

[stuck pasture]

Well FML, just made my first ones this morning 😂

[zinc torrent]

Yeah!! Sponsorships!!

[opaque sun]

Lava needs to stop adding total damage, that misc stat sucks

[tacit tulip]

damn, lava didn't count all the 0's

[zinc torrent]

Fr

[dense eagle]

Yea agree we dont like that

[zinc torrent]

We?

[strong socket]

Yes we

[zinc torrent]

Theres no we

Only lava

[opaque sun]

If skull gears had all stats% for the misc2, would have been perfect

[zinc torrent]

"We" have no say

[viral snow]

Sounds like communism to me

[zinc torrent]

Only lava

[steady turret]

Total stat good.
Damage multiplier good

Additive? Meh!

[fathom lagoon]

Ya boy finally got Doot, time to change the name

[cedar zenith]

!gear

[dense eagle]

The respawn still worth if you wont lose dmg tier

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[steady turret]

How much did you spend

[opaque sun]

The misc1 of skull gears are all good

Its just the misc2 total damage that sucks

[fathom lagoon]

Bonus pack & 2 of the $45 packs

[steady turret]

Endgame should have doot and sluggo

[fathom lagoon]

Oh and a $22 pack so I think close to $150 total lol

[dense eagle]

Yea i think the point is to make it another set for us to use both so we wont replace magma totaly

[opaque sun]

lava needs to make so gears can get more misc stats, or stop with the total damage trope

[sick sentinel]

Endgame should also have a credit card

[fathom lagoon]

I am now a dooter

Still iOS peasant tho

[zinc torrent]

Its a must

Or dream luck

[steady turret]

Why not just change total damage of w5 armory onwards to be damage multiplier?

[dense eagle]

@opaque sun do you have the last receipt mate?

[opaque sun]

receipt for what? Steam purchases?

[steady turret]

Recipe

[dense eagle]

Oopsi lol mb i mean recipe

[opaque sun]

Still working on the nightmare kills

Currently 4/10

[dense eagle]

Oh kk

[opaque sun]

Mainly waiting for the 700 keys

[tacit tulip]

lol my damage before/after shoes is the same. but 15% drop chance is nice

[chrome tiger]

what's the math on 200 pulls in terms of $

[opaque sun]

Last recipe needs 10 nightmare kills in order

[tacit tulip]

the 45 pack gets you 16 pulls when you're at max treat

[opaque sun]

560$ or 450$ ish if including recycles to pull 200 times

[chrome tiger]

yikes

[opaque sun]

You can also choose to wait 200 weeks, but the 200th pull needs to be a paid pull to cash in guaranteed doot

[tacit tulip]

worse part about this update is my bloody BB isn't at moles yet so I can't do the challenges 🥲

[steady turret]

My 4th char is a regular barb and the situation is more or less the same but he'll get there today

[edgy osprey]

Active bb isn't worth it, right?

[tacit tulip]

oh yeah it won't take me long, like 400k/h

ye, never worth active barb

[steady turret]

The only active barb needs is to use ladles

[dense eagle]

@opaque sun btw after all the boss farm you planing on sitting at gmush with all, or on worms for for more keys abd for lvl 450 all?

[undone steeple]

bruh lava just straight up decided he's done with community huh

the triple a aproach i see

[fierce hearth]

boys, what is this number? i assume it's to do with the deathnote looking at the diffrent skulls on diffrent cards, but what is the number about? Kill count for THAT character specifically?

[tacit tulip]

yep, that character specifically

[fierce hearth]

coolbeans tyty

[grizzled elk]

Skull represents the deathnote rank from total kills on all chars

[grand karma]

thats why i pushed all of my chars once i got enough kills

[solemn mason]

question for anyone w doot - can you toggle the gods off?

[sterile sundial]

Bro his “I’m a game developer, I don’t do politics” is fucking crazy too

[tacit tulip]

always active I believe

[grand karma]

why would you?

[solemn mason]

lab xp

[grand karma]

you can put your chars in lab for exp no?

[tacit tulip]

you still get lab exp if you physically go in lab

[solemn mason]

shit that makes sense

[tacit tulip]

you the "bad" to arctis is you don't get exp while out

[undone steeple]

I mean 200 guaranteed just makes it even more cash grabbie imo. f2p still can't get it and now you're literally putting a fixed price tag on it

lol

i guess this is to appease the whales that didnt get it

[sterile sundial]

I disagree. Good Gacha systems have a pity system. However, I think he is copying the Genshin/Honkai model that has way more going for those games then what Idleon does.

[near goblet]

Genshin/Honkai are more generous than this thing

[undone steeple]

I've played a ton of gacha games and you could always get to the same point of whales within time as f2p

[sterile sundial]

In the sense you still get the 50/50 at 70 pulls, but the guarantee is the same price of 450

[undone steeple]

200 guaranteed for f2p is 200 weeks, even if there wasnt rotation it simply aint happening

[tacit tulip]

I think the belief is it's the lower pets that will rotate, and doot stays

but yeah, not good odds.

[near goblet]

but you can save up a 5* in roughly a patch, and getting a 5* in genshin wouldnt give as great bonus to your account as a doot.

[undone steeple]

Id rather have seen a nerf in both sheepie, doot and the +talents one. to me they're busted and boring even if I did have one

[dense eagle]

The funny part is even if f2p player wait those 200 weeks just to see he need to buy the last one 🤣🤣

[random lake]

• King Doot companion is now guaranteed if not found within 200 treats. This works retroactively for those this would have previously applied to!
What does that line mean, it works retroactively

[near goblet]

if you already had 200 pulls before

you get him

[tacit tulip]

like, if you did 150 pulls before this update, you're on 150/200

[random lake]

Ohhh

[undone steeple]

200 weeks bruv

[sterile sundial]

That’s just not true. You barely get enough to do 20 pulls (in Genshin)

[undone steeple]

what i meant by this being more cash grabbie is that

if f2p has like 100, 150 free pulls

[near goblet]

Skill issue

[undone steeple]

they will def be tempted to buy the last ones

[sterile sundial]

Good one

[pliant arch]

Pity system is good and a must. But Lava just completely ignored the fact that doot are op =/

[undone steeple]

I do think pity system is a step in the right direction

I just think doot should be nerfed to 2 gods instead of all

so this way ES gets 3

and also add ways to get treats as f2p

[near goblet]

Meh that's very rare in gachas, many gachas f2p usually just gets to clear PvE content, Whales take leaderboards in both pvp and pve content. Even rarer when f2p can content for top leaderboard in pvp and pve.

[sterile sundial]

I think we just ignore the fact that Doot is OP at this point. I don’t think he’s nerfing him

[pliant arch]

Too late for a nerf I guess.

[near goblet]

You can! One weekly

[undone steeple]

I was top 50 in summoners war before they added a shit ton of p2w content, being completely f2p

[zinc torrent]

No one wants a nerf we want a way for f2ps to get it without spending 400$

[viral snow]

cant nerf stuff so bad when people put in lots of moneys

[undone steeple]

you actually can though?

[near goblet]

Not really

[undone steeple]

if you nerf for everyone you're not taking anything from anyone in particular

it's a matter of perspective

[viral snow]

ofc you can
like you could chop of your leg right now, wouldnt do any of that

[near goblet]

But The whalers are Lava's true community

and he wouldnt want to dissapoint

his true community

we f2p peasants

[dense eagle]

Imagine nerfing it after people spent so much money for it

[near goblet]

can go suck----

[sterile sundial]

I think this was an issue that World of Warships had where they were against nerfing Premium ships because of the potential lawsuits. I don’t think it’s possible for a lawsuit to actually happen, but yeah

[undone steeple]

I know at least 3 "whales" that paid enough for doot that agree with a nerf

[pliant arch]

I'm fine with whale getting like 100% extra progress, etc. But doot is like 1k% or maybe 2k% 😂

[undone steeple]

there are plenty of h4cks out there where you can just get whatever you want in the game

[near goblet]

love how we are discussing something that has 0% of happening

[undone steeple]

cliche but this game is not about the destiny its about the journey

[undone steeple]

been discussing it since the release of the update lmao

[near goblet]

wanna bet that pity resets when banner rotates?

[pliant arch]

Well, very likely 😛

[undone steeple]

it really isn't that hard/bad to fix companions in a way that allows everyone to eventually have all of them

pay to get ahead is still something whales desire

[viral snow]

doot wont be that crazy good in a couple month realistically
There will be new stuff thats even better

[undone steeple]

didn't one of the biggest spender/streamer delete all his stuff live?

I saw him delete a bunch of premium obols

[visual lava]

how are you this delusional?

[undone steeple]

I'm just saying: adding pity timer for doot means he is trying (in the smallest way possible) to appease part of the community

[viral snow]

game gets updated
gotta put something new in the next updates
Its just my guess tho

[near goblet]

And the boss is just a damage sponge with 0 mechanics

[sterile sundial]

I figured since he was mega gone for 2 weeks, he was actually just fixing the pets by releasing all of his pets in a huge list so no rotations and dupe protection. So I’m very disappointed we waited 2 weeks for this.

[undone steeple]

pity timer is not for f2p

[visual lava]

"stuff that is even better than Doot"

do you even realise how much needs to be pushed to make that statement true

[opaque sun]

always have 1 SB on gmush, active farming on wurms, and 2 other archers that used to be afk farming w4 keys / glass shards are now farming w5 keys at wurms

levels are already 450+

[near goblet]

I cant see how lab fully active without anyone being there, Omni procs on everyone will ever stop being 'very good'

[pliant arch]

idk what would be better than doot. Doot alone is like "You get x5 effect of w4/w5 features"

[near goblet]

not even mentioning the minor link bonuses

[opaque sun]

Doot still have potential to be even more powerful with badgur and kattle god

[pliant arch]

Unless new pet let you enter w6 portal 6 months earlier than f2p player lmao

[near goblet]

next doot tier pet will be w6 early access

[pliant arch]

That's possible but not directly.
He could set w6 access requirement to be so big/high that you likely need doot to progress, etc.

[lean thistle]

How do i pump this more?

Is 1b xp/hr a lot?

[visual lava]

[opaque sun]

early access? Sounds like wishful thinking. More like exclusive access

[visual lava]

[strange raft]

random question, does skilled dimwit effect divinity exp gain

[hybrid geode]

all equiped obols give bonuses

[pliant arch]

OMG. Is this where the "the truth is that the game is as fun as it was before, as evidenced by more people playing today than two weeks ago" is from? People are spamming new account? 😂

[near goblet]

your eqipped obols dont give you bonuses?

[lean thistle]

How many free pulls would u need for doot?

[hybrid geode]

just for one character

[lean thistle]

Only 200?

[opaque sun]

even if all personal obols works family wide, thats still like rift slug tier

[lean thistle]

200 seems low

Wait did he add pity system?

[twin token]

Newest update

[near goblet]

199

[lean thistle]

Im at 20 pulls so i only need 180 more?

[near goblet]

and 1 paid

[sand lagoon]

anyone can show me the new recipes for armor pls?

[near goblet]

molten armor + kattle drop

[opaque sun]

200 weeks of f2p and minimum gem purchase made to guarantee a doot semi f2p

[lean thistle]

Its only like 300$ to max gem shop

[lean thistle]

Is that new boss gear?

[hybrid geode]

if current is 2x (personal + family) all personal + family would be 11x

[frigid acorn]

only worth if youre going to do 1b everything

[sand lagoon]

what about the weapons are they the same

[near goblet]

they need mob drops too

[lean thistle]

Ye ik most games are p2w trash 😂😂

[pure meadow]

with the new armor you lose a few %stats and get drop rate% mostly, right?

[opaque sun]

Still thats rift slug tier, doesnt change how you play the game

[frigid acorn]

nope , just resp and total damage

[opaque sun]

Doot tier is power and a noticeable utility

[twin token]

How to I make cogmitizer give me the most build speed

[frigid acorn]

for armor and pants

[near goblet]

with xp

[hybrid geode]

fair

[twin token]

?

[near goblet]

xp translates to faster leveling which translates to more build speed

[lean thistle]

U cna easily make 500 gems a week if ur active as f2p new worlds are spaced out enough for dedicated players to max important gem upgrades

[near goblet]

it is a waste to go for build rate cogs

[crisp silo]

theres a bubble that scales build sped on XP

[twin token]

Yeah I been doing that since early w3

[crisp silo]

change the weitage

[twin token]

In saying how do I make cogmitizer optimize the cogs I alr have for most build speed

[lean thistle]

It will never be green gems

[near goblet]

we probably need w6 to have a doot tier worthy pet

[opaque sun]

If like say “wearing skill obol makes respective skill sample to automatically reach 1000m samples” then maybe doot tier

[lean thistle]

Idk i think doot isnt that big of deal unless ur hyper competitive 90% of ppl who are casuals dont give af

[visual lava]

green gems arent either

[lean thistle]

Sp why did he add new gems instead of patching ways to cheat blue ones?

And shouldnt they be same price

[hybrid geode]

sampling is such a bitch most people just do it when they feel like it

[velvet mural]

What's the stats on the boss armor?

[hollow wasp]

been afk a little, damn looks good x)

[visual lava]

money.

[hybrid geode]

doot makes sampling way easier

[lean thistle]

So doot is qol and u dont need to juggle gods

[pliant arch]

eh, it's not just qol

[visual lava]

doot is a little more than just qol

[opaque sun]

“Can use printer to print anyone’s sample” maybe doot tier

[near goblet]

Not sure how he would patch blue gems

[pliant arch]

instead of having your 4-5 char in lab, you can afk them all. So that's at least x2 progress.

[visual lava]

6 in lab

[lean thistle]

Doot is for mega sweats idc about it lol might be more of a big deal for discord spreadsheet maxers but gacha is kind of dumb

[opaque sun]

doot also gives around 30+45% afk gain and 1000% money from minor bonus

[lean thistle]

Doesnt everyone who is end game have infinite money?

[near goblet]

it looks like infinite money to you but high level stamps cost infinite^2

[opaque sun]

And also many dootless doesnt notice but its very powerful to have 10 omni