lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[thin rose]

General chat is so aids rn

[distant bronze]

200 before a guaranteed doot

that's still like 4 years worth of pulls

52 per year

[surreal silo]

so brushing whole companion thing under the rug LMAO

4 years to guarantee doot (if there is no rotation)

damn, was really hoping I had reason to not uninstall but... o7

[thin rose]

cya

[distant bronze]

I've spent so much on this game already, I feel like it's so much for doot alone

[safe relic]

or >225 usd 😦

[tranquil surge]

yeah the cooking ive just ignored kinda level wise but lab i went hard in

[summer storm]

focus cooking asap

with bb

[bleak gazelle]

i kind of skipped lab and am now stuck in div, oops

[safe relic]

trying to get my bb to 150 first and then get a few cooking effi items

[tranquil surge]

i went Haaard with lab as soon as i got w4 cause the buffs are nuts

[safe relic]

I got just up to multi kill with like 8 chars in and pushed with the other 2

then got some baseline divinity progress and have just been grinding gaming, sailing and lvling

[tranquil surge]

yeah same boat

so you

pushed w3 portals to neptunes on most characters?

[rustic garnet]

King Doot companion is now guaranteed if not found within 200 treats
Oh so 4 years, COOOL....

[tranquil surge]

wait

200 level treats? or

[safe relic]

honestly can't even remember, I think a few characters are missing

for some reason I put that off

[gentle furnace]

200 pulls

[rustic garnet]

and that's ignoring the other broken pets anyway

[surreal silo]

200 pulls, >300$ USD apparently

🤣

[rustic garnet]

yep

[spice void]

got my first boss key wooo

[safe relic]

I appreciate the pity system at the very least but 200 pulls still is pretty crazy

[rustic garnet]

It is so ENTIRELY SCUMMY

[bright current]

love that its not retroactive either

[rustic garnet]

I can't believe Lava actually typed that

[bright current]

so its essentially just another level of cash grab

[surreal silo]

it's there so he doesn't get sued lmfao

[rustic garnet]

and thought 'oh yeah, 200 weeks sounds good'

[tranquil surge]

oh so kattlekruk only just got released?

thats the boss yall talking about

[rustic garnet]

Yeah, and more to the point, he's not fixed Doot

[tranquil surge]

i had the cards just didnt realize it wasnt in game yet

[rustic garnet]

and he's going to lose a lot of people now that his answer was 'gacha'

gacha literally follows this system

a ridiclous amount of pulls before 'pity' kicks in

[bright current]

dont forget theres a good chance he rotates shit out

[safe relic]

I was under the impression that rotations were every 10 weeks

[rustic garnet]

$$$$$$$$

[spice void]

ram is still one of the best quality of life imo

[safe relic]

might be wrong

ram is nice but stats 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑

[spice void]

true but now if you have afk'd for a year you can still claim all your loot

[safe relic]

actually didn't think about that

[bright current]

ram is the best pet cuz hes cute and helpful little guy

actually good for gameplay? not rly...

[spice void]

i have sheepie following cause same reason

[safe relic]

doot worst follower, too beeg, get in way

[spice void]

oh man the armor upgrade stone from new boss is... neat

[wispy sapphire]

wait the followers aren't passive buffs?
you can only pick one at a time?

[cold jackal]

custard has helped a ton for me, the ram too means you don't need to get bags as soon

[spice void]

no they are passive but you can only have one following you at a time

[wispy sapphire]

oh ok thats what i though

[safe relic]

as a cosmetic essentially

[bright current]

imagine if they were cosmetic only

woulda loved that

[wispy sapphire]

my apolcalypse zow is showing 9 but apocalypse chow is showing 0, are they different or do I need to do something special?
I've changed maps already

[safe relic]

chow is 1 mil

[bright current]

something special? yea an extra digit on ur zows

[wispy sapphire]

ahhhhhhhhh

reading hard

[safe relic]

relate

[gaunt meteor]

why tf cant u use candy in w5

[safe relic]

I remember when I didn't know the p2w tab existed in alchemy and I 2000% my speed in 5 mins

[gentle furnace]

cuz w6 isnt out

[safe relic]

nah its too hot there

candy melt

canon

[sharp wind]

Damn 200 treats for doot is still impossible

[crisp silo]

does the 2x kills from nobi count to this mole kill task?

[sharp wind]

Thought it will be like 30/50

[strong socket]

200 weeks.... thats 4 years kek

[crisp silo]

woah thats now lined up with the estimates

[spice void]

the quest? no

[sharp wind]

Dunno if i will still play after that

[umbral tapir]

Love that the update is "Guys, I made so much money on the last update I could sponsor another video. Anyone who's mad about this game getting more players isn't a true part of the community"

I'll continue to play but, the messaging needs work.

[versed cypress]

200 treats... yeah thats still just a shit as the previous one

[spice void]

honestly lava should probably avoid talking about followers anymore, its there and people will have their opinions both good and bad

[sharp wind]

Well its good that at least he shared his opinion

[crisp silo]

so does nobi count towards the 6M mole kill quest

[spice void]

no

[sharp wind]

We know where his point at🫠

[crisp silo]

man

[sharp wind]

Monehhh

[spice void]

cause those kills arnt death note or portal

[strong socket]

Is this quest repeatable?

[vernal iris]

they are if you afk the character

[versed cypress]

quest kills will count all of the kills as long as they come from afk

they do not count for active

[noble hound]

Anyone else cant sign in since the update? Forced me to logout and now when i sync up nothing happens

[tight ridge]

does it show the doot pity count anywhere

i wanna see that 2/200

[vernal iris]

check your dooter

[spring ingot]

anyone knows the w5 boss card bonuses yet?

[heavy moth]

yea it shows

[tight ridge]

they were already in the game

[tight ridge]

where?

[modest warren]

If yiur at tier 5 treat it shows

[coarse parrot]

Lava has returned

[coarse parrot]

Pretty cool

[spring ingot]

ohhh ive already got one of the cards...

[heavy moth]

at the bottom

[umbral tapir]

I mean fair enough. I'm happy the guy is making money, but I guess this is just what happens. Game got big enough that he took a risk, and found a bigger audience for his game. The ones he lost probably amount to a drop in the bucket now.

[magic fjord]

Though apparently as a chud.

[tight ridge]

so the pity count only starts when you reach tier 5?

[heavy moth]

cant say was Tier 5 before pity count

[modest warren]

No it's your total rolls

[umbral tapir]

Maybe so. But this is just what happens when games get bigger and bigger.

[bright current]

[tight ridge]

im tier 3 but dont have the counter

[modest warren]

It will be the correct amount when you get to 5

[magic fjord]

Yeah, principles are apparently just a temporary inconvenience.

[sterile bison]

It’s how they account for increased costs like more staff and…oh wait

[cyan granite]

Griffy’s chat is a shit show dude

[coarse parrot]

Doesn’t really fix the issue for F2P fellas, if the rotation goes by 10 weeks doot will be long gone by the time we reach 200

[rustic garnet]

Are we now back to rolling stones till we get lucky on armor?

[tight ridge]

how much money is 200 pulls

[rustic garnet]

~500$

[crisp silo]

we could

[cyan granite]

Everyone be worshipping lava for his great achievements

[tranquil sedge]

wow

[tight ridge]

damn thats alot

[tranquil sedge]

That's basically nothing as a statement

[tight ridge]

the pity changes nothing about it

[modest warren]

$500 usd but as a Canadian it's more like $700

Rip me ig

[rustic garnet]

if anything

the pity probably means some more people are going to buy it

[heady scaffold]

read the rest of the stone

[modest warren]

I guess I'll wait another few months

I got rift slug today tho

[heady scaffold]

theyre worse than w5 stones on average because you lose slot on fail

[tight ridge]

idk how i feel about his response, added a pity for the whales, bragged about how he used the money for sponsors then added the w5 boss to distract and move on

[rustic garnet]

But they are great if they don't.... that's my point

They are nearly double the strength

And with Bestone....

You have a 76% success chance

to roll a perfect piece

[leaden karma]

what's the best character for farming skulls in rift? its too slow for my bubo.

[tranquil surge]

where do i find a build planner to respec for my blood berserker?

i want to make it purely for cooking

[heady scaffold]

the extra success chance from those things are already included in that 68%

[rigid cloak]

i always use es

[rustic garnet]

fair

but still

they are nearly DOUBLE the value

[rigid cloak]

5k kills skulls take a hour to 2

[rustic garnet]

so you'll absoutely see people rolling them

if you get 5 out of 8 rolls on chest, it's better than 8/8

[spice void]

still that means massive power gain with perfect rolls

[tight ridge]

do the bb changes make him viable for active play or you guys think it does nothing still

[leaden karma]

ok, tnx!

[bright current]

ES can be problematic if the good skulls get despawned from portal expiring. but usually good

[heady scaffold]

8/9 doesnt look like double of 6/6

[rustic garnet]

That's 80 defense and 48 main stat

[rigid cloak]

the good skulls almost never land on the portal mobs

[spice void]

your also missing the weapon power bonus

[crisp silo]

ah yes 1wp

[tight ridge]

theyre meant to give the endgame players something to work at while they wait for w6

[rustic garnet]

40 main stat and 5 weapon power (5 out of 8) is going to beat out 48 main stat

[tight ridge]

recraft gear and roll stones on

[rustic garnet]

and if you roll 6/8 (very possible) you got a better item

[crisp silo]

i cant wait to craft another pair of lava legings

[rustic garnet]

sure... maybe not pants

but the rest of the items? Theya re incredibly easy

[deft grail]

Fortunately for all of us, the truth is that the game is as fun as it was before, as evidenced by more people playing today than two weeks ago, and with continued hard work on my end and constant engagement with the true community who simply want to have fun playing and appreciate the dedication I've shown over the years, the game will only get better and better and community grow larger and stronger.

[rustic garnet]

you could roll 10 or 20 shoes easily

[rustic garnet]

Well, straight lie for starters

[heady scaffold]

5 wp isnt necessarily better than 8 stat

[crisp silo]

shoes are prob ez

[deft grail]

Fortunately for all of us, the truth is that the game is as fun as it was before, as evidenced by more people playing today than two weeks ago

[opaque sun]

that stat of skull pants kind of underwhelming. But good on active bb i guess

[crisp silo]

helmat as well

[deft grail]

????

[grizzled elk]

I waiting for the "I've listened to the community and changed free companion pulls to daily, and set the limit to 180 so that even if you're a free player you should be guaranteed every pet every ~6 months" 🙄

[tight ridge]

who are you

[rustic garnet]

3k less players versus before the update

but hey shill away

you do you dawg

[opaque sun]

also i guess gmush farmer likes the skull gears

[deft grail]

i mean lol

lmao even

this is just so flawed and there's nothing we as players can do about it

[tight ridge]

we can stop playing

which alot of people did

[crisp silo]

anyone got pics of a full set?

[rustic garnet]

Sure there is -- scream, put up the reviews, not pay

[deft grail]

from his msg it's clear that he's really happy with the game staying in Negative review mode, so no that doesn't seem to do much

[rustic garnet]

But Almonds, why did you put that comment up about 'more players playing'? What motivation do you have for saying it?

[deft grail]

bro i just quoted the blog lol

[sick sentinel]

it was taken from lava post

[rustic garnet]

oh jeeeeze

holy shit

[sick sentinel]

just not quotation marked

[rustic garnet]

realllly?!

[deft grail]

cuz its hilarious and triggering to post it without quotes

[rustic garnet]

Sorry dude

[deft grail]

it's just so egrigiously flawed

[rustic garnet]

yeah

[deft grail]

ur my first victim lol

[sick sentinel]

maniac

[rustic garnet]

fully agree

[umbral tapir]

Agreed

[grizzled elk]

"More players playing than after the worst update ever on this game" yeah great achievement pal

[rustic garnet]

is the blog on this server?

[crisp silo]

in the futre content blog

[thin rose]

#💖future-content-blog

[deft grail]

If Doot were totally free I would still be very annoyed at it being in the game. It egregiously warps progression and trivializes a major part of W5 progression. It's a W6 gradually-acquired passive bonus at minimum.

[grizzled elk]

That's like saying my arm doesn't hurt as bad as when it was first cut off

[deft grail]

It sets a terrible precedent for ALL future updates, and the fact that Lava is too single-minded to see this has me really worried:

CREATE THE PROBLEM, SELL THE SOLUTION

[rustic garnet]

It's absolute lunacy that he believes that enough to TYPE it

This reads: He knew just how great Doot was and how absolutely predatory and tempting it will be

[deft grail]

yeah, and 100p went thru with it

[signal osprey]

That was obvious when the update launched

[rustic garnet]

what he's not realizing: He put a LOT of money into adverstisement and he STILL lost 3k players

He's in serious trouble

[signal osprey]

Anyone sitting around hoping for a fix is delusional

[deft grail]

I don't doubt that most of the income is put back into the game, but at what cost man? severing the trust of your entire p[ayerbsae?

[rustic garnet]

This is going to spiral

[deft grail]

ive ever seen a game go from very positive to mostly negaitve from one update

[tight ridge]

bro what

thats like 10K maybe on the sponsor

and 100K in the pocket

[rigid cloak]

doubt its 10k

[tight ridge]

i dont blame him for being greedy hes doing buisness lmao

[bright current]

hey its this guy again

[rigid cloak]

you could offer 3k and most would take it

[versed cypress]

i mean the issue is already there, he created it and then made a mess of things, this update was not the soluttion and while im happy to see the w5 boss.... fuck the companion situation, 200 rolls for the final pet is just complete an duther insanity

[tight ridge]

but if he wants to keep milking this cow he should do something compensatory to make us chill

[rustic garnet]

a 200k view video costs maybe 2 or 3k

[heavy moth]

just realize how weak the dude was in the video he post XD not onetaping boss

[tight ridge]

i think the 200 pity is his answer but thats just bs

[orchid ferry]

so nothing changed concerning companions?

[rigid cloak]

nothing

[rustic garnet]

He put in 200 pity so Apple IOS would let him go through

[versed cypress]

if we get daily free rolls instead of weekly yeah

[rustic garnet]

if anything, Lava just confirmed he KNOWs he's screwing us

[tight ridge]

yep ^

[iron jolt]

anyone have thte new gear recipes?

[signal osprey]

He confirmed that when he launched the update 2 weeks ago

[crude zephyr]

you should check our QAnon, i think you would be perfect for it

[signal osprey]

Yall are wild thinking he was gonna fix it

[snow hamlet]

200 pity if it were 100 gems per pull would still be yikes

[bright current]

and doot didnt rotate out for 200 days. which wouldnt shock me if he does

[rigid cloak]

it just came out lol

[rustic garnet]

You should collect your shill paycheck

[sharp wind]

Wth my companions all gone

[snow hamlet]

Should be a 10 pull per week if it’s 10 week

[iron jolt]

i assumed end gamers would have some of them unlocked?

[crisp silo]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[versed cypress]

based on this update he prety much confirmed that doot will not rotate

[rustic garnet]

A fool and his wallet are easily parted

[crude zephyr]

using my shill paychecks to get my doots baby

[rigid cloak]

you still need to get enough keys to do boss

[snow hamlet]

How?

[summer folio]

hmm wait or gamble

[sharp wind]

I have everything except doot and crystal

[stoic tiger]

It takes 4 years of free rolls to get pity doot

[versed cypress]

200 rolls to guarantee a doot, means there is more than likely not going to be a pet replacing the ultra rare doot bonus pet

[rigid cloak]

literally 0 gatcha systems dont rerotate things

[crude zephyr]

a fool cries about something happening in a game to people he doesnt know on discord

LOL

[violet star]

Did any smart people already figure out how much cash guaranteed doot is now ? :P

[rigid cloak]

600$

[tight ridge]

or more likely its just gonna rotate and the enw one has 200 pity aswell

[versed cypress]

yeah and all gacha systems normaly let you farm the currency they use for rolls in the game itself for free and yet here we are

[bright current]

idk. if its following other gacha games, its only guarenteed untill hes not there anymore

[rustic garnet]

No tears here, just reality, the fact you triple edited your post says a LOT though 😉

[rigid cloak]

fam you can get a job and get doot faster than grinding out any premium currency

[still apex]

That would only benefit p2w he wont keep it for the 4 years f2p players would need.

[crude zephyr]

what does my correcting typos say to you? lol- youre grasping bro.

[crisp silo]

just wait goat is big at that stage

[tight ridge]

gacha games are actually "fairer" than this, atleast their currency is obtainable

[violet star]

Hm okay still too much for my taste but thx :)

[rustic garnet]

It says you are absolutely dedicated to gargling on this patch

[little elbow]

Can someone help me with the Crystallin quest I have 116% Crystal spawn rate and still no crystal spawn

[rustic garnet]

This game was built up around a dev that built a community

[summer folio]

does doot only work for gods you've unlocked or all?

[versed cypress]

thats not the point, the point is Gachas MUST HAVE both a pity system to limit spending, AND a f2p way to guarantee the rewards if you play enough

[rigid cloak]

noone can help u get a crystal spawn u just have to afk

[crude zephyr]

in your mind, if someone corrects a typo, it means that they are 'dedicated to gargling on this patch'.

LOL

[rustic garnet]

this discord exists as a community because people suport him

[gentle furnace]

all even if you're not at w5

[rustic garnet]

It's ok, we all see your flaws

[crude zephyr]

you're fking 10-ply bud

[sharp wind]

Anyone companions gone too?

[summer folio]

ok seems a little buggy on some charaters atm for me

[rigid cloak]

no mine are still here i would submit a bug report

[rustic garnet]

It's a feature. You have to pay to unlock 'permanent pets'

[crude zephyr]

man up and stop crying about a video game.... bruh how old are you?

[sharp wind]

Already done it

[tight ridge]

did you update your game maybe

[rustic garnet]

Bruh? Lol, not your bruh, you are a weak troll at best

[autumn rivet]

no way to get green gems, just weekly rolls

sad..

[rustic garnet]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[crude zephyr]

bruhhhhh- you're crying about an idle game... doesnt get softer than that.

[autumn rivet]

yep :<

[rustic garnet]

You're defending a gacha game, doesn't get more cringe than that

[little elbow]

@rigid cloak not help me like that I meant any advise I afk for 1 full day with 116% spawn rate and still now crystal

[versed cypress]

you are figthing over an idle game with no real point other than telling someone else they are crying over it... i wonder which is worse

[little elbow]

No crystal

[tight ridge]

this is an insult to gacha games its worse

[crude zephyr]

i'm not defending anything- im pointing out that you are throwing a tantrum over a video game. LOL

[rigid cloak]

what are your kills/hr

[versed cypress]

what ar eyou trying to get??? sorry i missed your question

[rustic garnet]

Hell, Gacha games usually don't scour you for $500 before pity

[tight ridge]

crystals take a long time to spawn if your crystal chance is that low

[rigid cloak]

its impossible to not get a crystal after a full day

[rustic garnet]

You certainly are defending this update, you were mocking people who were speaking out against this practice

Neat, buddy, you deserve this game

[versed cypress]

nate stop feeding the troll

[crude zephyr]

if you don't get what you want in life, do you cry this much too?

[rustic garnet]

I've already blocked him ;-0

[little elbow]

@rigid cloak where is best place to afk for crystals

[rigid cloak]

anything u can kill fast

[modern plaza]

new patch!?!?

is it lit??

[tight ridge]

@little elbow if you use idleonefficiency you can see your crystal spawn chance

[rustic garnet]

Don't expect any fixes to doot

it's not lit

it's pretty weak sauce

[strong socket]

dam, kattlekruk is weak kek

[signal osprey]

The update is actually pretty good

[modern plaza]

oh w5 boss??

[little elbow]

@tight ridge is that another app?

[rustic garnet]

you'll probalby one shot it

[heady scaffold]

boss gets 1 shot as usual

[tight ridge]

its a website

[vocal flower]

Ok so the real question is can I get kruk keys before killing 6 mil moles?

[tight ridge]

very useful

[tight ridge]

they should drop from the last 3 mobs i think

[rustic garnet]

It's pretty much a repeat of troll, armor set, even easier boss.... Didn't seven see the boss do antyhing other than die

[vocal flower]

Thanks

[signal osprey]

Not seeing the boss do anything is a good thing. Fuck the troll fight

[tight ridge]

i havent gotten there yet but i have the card and it shows it

[obsidian nacelle]

Ahh see lavas alive

[rustic garnet]

the troll fight was annoying

[vocal flower]

Lol ilogged in on a char on worms and got 6. Answers that

[rustic garnet]

He was just working out how to get money via IOS

[strong socket]

the boss doesnt attack?

[heady scaffold]

pretty sure the armor is worse than troll for dmg

[sharp wind]

nvm its back

[rustic garnet]

is there damage %?

[sharp wind]

i think ios problem

[heady scaffold]

damage% on armor is shit, and it lost allstat%

[signal osprey]

For damage yeah probably a loss but damage is also overrated. That DR is more than worth the loss

[tight ridge]

what armor does the new armor beed to be crafted with diabolical? magma?

[heady scaffold]

magma and teeth

[rustic garnet]

if it was like troll -- nothing is needed

[signal osprey]

All the new gear crafts out of existing W5 gear. You need magma sets and W5 weapons

[vocal flower]

Lmao tasks easy af when you just 1 shothim with an auto attack

[versed cypress]

well for sapphire a loss of stat % is massive due to how high her main stats are

[strong socket]

boss equips are free
but most of them are a downgrade

[rustic garnet]

hmmm, all stats versus mob respawn?

[cyan granite]

He even made sure to finally tell us iOS can gamble on his new system too! Oh golly so excited!

[rustic garnet]

10% drop chance... 30% total damage

[lunar reef]

Oh lit max doot time for f2p reduced from 7 years to 4 years how nice

[tight ridge]

thats the whole point of the 200 pity is for ios to allow it lol

[vocal flower]

Rip task 3. My 2nd character and 4th are lab and cooking slaves 😦

[signal osprey]

You knew that would be a task though

[cyan granite]

Lava trying to cover up his last update: also lava making them a downgrade either way but hey it’s a FREE update

[signal osprey]

Every world has had a task for reaching the boss on X characters

[rustic garnet]

in order

I unlocked w5 on all charcs cuz of it

[tight ridge]

cant wait till we have to buy w6

[rustic garnet]

you won't have to buy w6

[cyan granite]

1 in 1K chance

[rustic garnet]

but you won't have enough power to do anything without buying

[little elbow]

@tight ridge afk 12hours 7'000 kills and still no crystals 🤦🏾‍♂️ is my game broke?

[strong socket]

like i wouldnt upgrade bc i wanna keep magma for prints

[cyan granite]

Dawg crystals spawn active

[signal osprey]

Crystals only spawn during active play

[tight ridge]

you have to be active

[versed cypress]

are you doing active afk or afk afk

[tight ridge]

crystal

[little elbow]

@tight ridge good damn 🤦🏾‍♂️

[sharp wind]

dont open in ios, my companions is gone in ios

but when i open on my pc its back again

[tight ridge]

i stopped playing ios when it reset my card set

my pc hasnt turned off since

[cyan granite]

It won’t even matter if I open it on my iOS, what will I lose my 2 Moltis?

[sharp wind]

😂

[sharp wind]

i think its not that ios reset ur card set, its just card set linked to each device

well its better to play 1 device tho

[crisp silo]

card set is saved local cache?

[tight ridge]

well yeah ik but it pissed me off so i stopped using the app

[serene kiln]

iOS is always broken

[tight ridge]

even though i liked checking in on my ipad

that was before i discovered active play

now my brain has to play efficiently

[rigid cloak]

wait is w6 open?

[pliant elk]

Did he literally just go all the TRUE fans stuck around

[autumn rivet]

:D

[pliant elk]

Jesus Christ that's pathetic

[rigid cloak]

gotcha

[pulsar cliff]

Lmao that obol.

[rigid cloak]

gz

[crisp silo]

holy

[floral garden]

That was quick

[crisp silo]

on what diff?

[pulsar cliff]

First chaotic run, so RNGesus is gonna be out for me.

Chaotic

[thin rose]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-kylo-ren-i-know-what-i-have-to-do-i-know-what-i-must-do-adam-driver-gif-26011680

[crisp silo]

do it, i have some basic aaaa hats on my guys

[floral garden]

What's his health on chaotic?

[thin rose]

it's either farmer brim

[lunar reef]

TL;DR “I don’t care it worked, so anyways, update guys”

[thin rose]

or w2 cowboy hat

[crisp silo]

2500B

[pulsar cliff]

One hit? Lol I didn't really pay attention

[crisp silo]

w2 more clean

[pulsar cliff]

But Freedumb is smarter than me

[crisp silo]

its in the cards i think

[floral garden]

Cool thanks

[crisp silo]

nightmare is 1Q

or 1000T

i am finally getting my god damn afk prayer

[thin rose]

it's a meh bonus for nightmare too unfortunately

[untold saffron]

a 1/200 100% chance doot roll really does nothing to fix the issues right?

[pliant elk]

No lavas a piece of shit still

[rigid cloak]

it makes it so you dont need to go to 1.9k

[thin rose]

well its not an issue really, it's a luxury

[pliant elk]

If that wasn't obvious

Lmao

[pine pond]

Gains

[crisp silo]

its guranteed after 200 rolls, 200 weeks 4 years

[untold saffron]

how many rolls was it on average before

still around 200 or less init

[thin rose]

700 or sum

[pine pond]

Idk I got it within 40

[rigid cloak]

500$ was the number going around

[pine pond]

I got all mine in under 200 rolls

[thin rose]

wasn't it 700-750?

[pine pond]

[crisp silo]

yo giimme

[rigid cloak]

i thought it was 500

[crisp silo]

ill give u a frog for 1 doot

[pine pond]

Maybe for some

[left robin]

https://i.imgur.com/sL3mUnw.png is this any good?

[thin rose]

apparently it's 350 at most now

[pine pond]

^

[rigid cloak]

did he change rates too?

[crisp silo]

not rly

[rigid cloak]

if you have nothing else use it

but pretty ass

[left robin]

what kind of rolls am i looking for when it comes to keychains?

[pine pond]

If you don't have better afk, or all Stat % no

[tranquil surge]

what happens if u buy a gem in the lab and you've already got it?

[thin rose]

% stats

[crisp silo]

you wont get a gem u got alr

[tranquil surge]

oh

i think i bought that gem with gems

and yet its in the shop rotation

[rigid cloak]

shop rotation is set

[rigid cloak]

theres a google sheet somewhere

[thin rose]

ngl can't wait for these classes

[rigid cloak]

the levels on those will probably bump up

[crisp silo]

2M hp left till afk prayer!!!!!!!

[rigid cloak]

no way they stay 200 lol

[thin rose]

lava telling us we're getting 8 worlds is pretty dope

[tranquil surge]

should be here by 2025 med

[thin rose]

3 elite classes in each too

[tranquil surge]

😉

[thin rose]

I dont mind waiting honestly

[tranquil surge]

i was only kidding hes pretty active with updates tbh

[crisp silo]

now to get eldrich

[rigid cloak]

still trying to get my eldrich fury

[thin rose]

to be fair when it comes to updates

he does quite alot of content

[crisp silo]

im tryna get my eldrich steak

[thin rose]

Imagine if lava had an entire team behind him

we'd be swimming in content

[rigid cloak]

eah

[crisp silo]

prob be slower cause they would conflict with each other

[rigid cloak]

theres only so much content u can have with a idle game

[thin rose]

nah

[crisp silo]

1 man team says fuck it we ball

[thin rose]

Cause they'd be working for him

not with each other

[crisp silo]

true

do i max the afk prayer?

[raven fog]

Huh guys what’s up woth the surprise updates

[thin rose]

Ofc

[raven fog]

Amd how much does king doot cost now ?

[thin rose]

350 at most

[pliant elk]

"only" $350

[raven fog]

350 daim

[versed cypress]

yeah "only"

[pliant elk]

Lmao

[crisp silo]

do we have an afk gains chart/checklist?

[versed cypress]

we really need daily free rolls

[raven fog]

I mean better than few thousands

Honestly can’t complain

[pliant elk]

Can't believe I waited 2 weeks for that response

[radiant harbor]

It's only half my weekly payroll.

[pliant elk]

What a joke

[thin rose]

I don't see why people are complaining still tbh

[tiny tree]

Daily might be a bit much, but I do agree that 1 week is a bit long

[rigid cloak]

what were you expecting lol

[pliant elk]

Him to die

[tiny tree]

but hey 🤷‍♂️

[rigid cloak]

imagine

[thin rose]

Tbh if lava even lowered to 100 people would still be complaining

[versed cypress]

200 rolls tops, thats 4 years for f2p ppl

[pliant elk]

Yeah I'm fucking not coming back

Fuck this gacha shit

[thin rose]

Cya

[rigid cloak]

assuming pity doesnt reset every rotation

cya

[versed cypress]

even a daily its close to 7 months

and rotation is supposed to be between 10 weeks and 4 months

[thin rose]

Ngl people act like pets stop them from playing the game

I personally don't understand it

[tiny tree]

Ok bye 👋

[rigid cloak]

because they feel like they're falling behind in a singleplayer game

[thin rose]

Keyword, single player

[versed cypress]

i do agree that the companions dont stop you from playing, but its a whole side of the game, with quite massive buffs tht is locked behind an impossible f2p system or a paywall that for many is quite strict

[tiny tree]

I don't have Doot and I feel fine

hot take

[thin rose]

Same here tbh

[pliant elk]

The sheep

[versed cypress]

im most likely going to come back to play properly soon

[pliant elk]

Amazing

[rigid cloak]

i legit understand the true f2p being pissed off no auto loot

[versed cypress]

doot wont stop me but its a bonus that for many its too game breaking

[crisp silo]

new companion should give autoloot for free tbh

[tiny tree]

I agree the doot bonus was ill conceived

[versed cypress]

this was a bit of a slap in the face to be honest,

[wanton gazelle]

So... who got thier "free" doot today? Lol

[thin rose]

If it was a common pet that would be pretty cool

[tiny tree]

kinda removes the purpose of the elemental sorcer ability

that lets you link to 2

[rigid cloak]

coulda legit done a quest that unlocked the system that gave it lol

[versed cypress]

is not ill concieved, its just somethign that should not have been given untill w6 was out and you can work on making previous world systems redundant

[broken oar]

Hey someone alredy get till kattlecruk

[crisp silo]

could have replace the sand pot

[tiny tree]

Good point

[pliant elk]

Donuts timing was ill conceived

[thin rose]

What's sand pot bonus again?

[pliant elk]

So it's

Goddamn fat fingers

[crisp silo]

+15 base stat

[thin rose]

That's not bad

[crisp silo]

it aint bad but it aint the best out there

[modern plaza]

wow king doot guaranteed now nice

[versed cypress]

yeah but 15 stats is not really somethingi nteresting at all, still, you should get free auto loot with ANY pet

[thin rose]

I didn't mind paying 5$ for autoloot

[versed cypress]

like it should be a thing that you get just by rolling the pets and getting any of them

[thin rose]

See what kinda confuses me

People don't complain about bundles

[modern plaza]

it’s only $5 lol

[versed cypress]

i didnt either, but the companions was where lava had promised to give f2p players the free autoloot

[crisp silo]

bundles are normally ok

[tiny tree]

I like the bundles

[thin rose]

Yeah but they're all paid exclusive items

And they're pretty awesome too

[rigid cloak]

its because it was gatcha

[tiny tree]

Free auto loot might be on a different pet rotation :/

[modern plaza]

i want the mage hat and sailor hat back haha

[crisp silo]

i think its cause it was a new prem currency

[versed cypress]

because bundles are good value and offer a way to support the dev with a premium currency that you can farm in game f2p if youw ant and give you access to quite nice premium features

[thin rose]

Sailor hat is back

[rigid cloak]

sailor hat is back

[versed cypress]

while companions came into being a gacha with no pity and a predatory FOMO sytem, and still no way to f2p farm the green gems

[modern plaza]

let’s goooo!!!

[thin rose]

Well the premium currency was already explained by lava

[modern plaza]

need that high dr haha

[broken oar]

Someon can make till kattlecruk

[thin rose]

Which I personally understand it being that way

[tiny tree]

The only thing I PERSONALLY don't like about the update, is the second currency. I think there wouldn't have been any backlash if you could use normal gems

[modern plaza]

its a 1.1x multiplier right?

[tranquil surge]

call me when smittys hat comes back on sale

[crisp silo]

few ppl have killed em

[tranquil surge]

only mad flex i want

id pay BANK for it

[rigid cloak]

no its additive

[versed cypress]

the i dont want cheatters to get it is irreleveant cause cheaters found a way to activate all companion bonuses wiht out having the pets so

[broken oar]

I still locked in citringe

[thin rose]

That's only temporary it disappears when they log off

[zealous niche]

On iOS all my pets disappeared..

[modern plaza]

what that one video creator said it was multiplier

[crisp silo]

ios pets broke, come back to pc/andriod

[zealous niche]

Pets won’t be gone there too?

[wanton gazelle]

Tbf it's only temporary until they relog if I recall

[versed cypress]

still they broke the system and didnt mattered, i get the new currency is backed up server side so he can controlit it better, but if thats so then he should change all blu egems into green, backthem up in the server side, and let us use those gems for everythign including the pet rolls

[thin rose]

Nah lava hates ios

[crisp silo]

sailor hat pog

[thin rose]

That would be virtually impossible to monitor

[rigid cloak]

cope

[crisp silo]

how do yall get above 200% afk gains?

[thin rose]

Also serverside = can't drop

As in not an item

[versed cypress]

that sounds like bullshit to me but i dont know lava coding that well so i wont say either way

[thin rose]

With how the game works it wouldn't work

Also I hope I don't get muted again because last time I talked about this I did

[versed cypress]

then lets not

[modern plaza]

does world 4 ring work in rift??

[versed cypress]

still there are ways he could have made both the pity system and a f2p way to roll more accessible and less insane, the pity system is still quite heavy money side and the free rolls are just imposible to guarantee

[zealous niche]

Logging into steam after iOS brought my pets back

[raven fog]

How many tries have i fone i bought tje pack that’s it

[versed cypress]

iOS still seems to be buggy with the companion stuff

[modern plaza]

mob respawn keychain oh gigity goo

[thin rose]

Apple fighting back

[versed cypress]

i think i remember ppl mentioning that it should since its on w4 but im not 100% certain

[modern plaza]

ohh i have 1 ring let me check

[zealous niche]

Definitely remember people saying it works for the afk

[heavy moth]

yea it works

[thorny token]

Is the candy not being usable on world 5 something that's happened with the furthest world each time?

[modern plaza]

ok so having 2 of them is poggers

[modern plaza]

yes

[thorny token]

ah gotcha

[versed cypress]

im just, a bit dissapointed that this was lavas answer, but oh well ill continue to enjoy the game as i have been if i get doot cool if not, ohh well ill keep playing with the gods as i have been xDDD

[raven fog]

Are they worth it ?

[thin rose]

It could have been initially added better sure, but once it was added the damage was done

[versed cypress]

ijust hope he will reconsider at least the f2p rolls and make it a few a week or daily

[thin rose]

Once people spent any money on it, it was game over

[versed cypress]

and boy did ppl spent

[cyan granite]

Well sure didn’t fix my motivation to hop on daily tho

[modern plaza]

idk, i feel like there is some dead time on ES where is is worth it

[versed cypress]

i hop daily in just 1 character,

[thin rose]

I feel like daily is a bit much

[versed cypress]

just ti claim my base rewards

[thin rose]

Twice a week would work

[versed cypress]

is still 7 months to get doot,

[cyan granite]

I just hop on every 2-3 days claim sailing and call it a day

[versed cypress]

if we get pet rotations 7 months to get it all will still make ppl use money to get them earlier

daily is fine with the current system

weekly is too llow, maybe 3 or 4 rolls a week

[thin rose]

If I was lava

I would've released them all as dlc bundles

[cold jackal]

i would have released them as a battle pass

[thin rose]

That's why you're not a dev

[cold jackal]

battle pass is ez cash

[fathom lagoon]

Holy shit boys we got an update!!

[thin rose]

Who puts a battle pass in a mmo game

[cold jackal]

everyone now?

[versed cypress]

honestly the battle pass system would have been the worst idea ever xDD

[thin rose]

Show me a MMORPG with a battlepass

I've never seen one

[versed cypress]

you spend some type of currency for exp for the pets level and you get a pet after the levels etc

[thin rose]

Especially an idle one

[snow hamlet]

Why would it be the “worst idea ever”

[cold jackal]

leaf blower idle added a battlepass recently

[snow hamlet]

I would be so much less upset over that than this

[untold saffron]

its not an RPG but does world of tanks count

[versed cypress]

ups meant to say wouldnt have been

[snow hamlet]

Also Diablo 4 is mmo-esque

[cold jackal]

battlepass would have been cheaper for everyone to get doot at least

[thin rose]

Wut

[untold saffron]

^

[lunar reef]

Lost Ark

[thin rose]

I feel like he would've made a lot more money putting them in bundles or paid dlc

[versed cypress]

i mean now a days live service games are considered MMOs xDDD

[thin rose]

LMAO

Funny

[lunar reef]

[versed cypress]

how would you have divided them??? like 1 bundle for the green and white one for the purple and one for the slug and doot??

[cold jackal]

but yeah, fortnite battle pass style, you either get the battlepass within 3 months or you can never get king doot again.
ez cash

[thin rose]

Put each pet in its own separate bundle

[versed cypress]

hahahah that would have been even worse of a comunity outrage

[fathom lagoon]

Wait did we lose all our pets?

[snow hamlet]

Um. Lost ark very much is an mmo. Not sure what the LMAO is directed at there

[lunar reef]

Though seriously though it does have a battlepass with premium and free tracks earned via exp

[versed cypress]

no, but iOS seems to be bugged

[lunar reef]

And is an MMO

[thin rose]

I said mmorpg

[raven vale]

Still over $2000NZD for guaranteed doot. fml

[fathom lagoon]

Ah ok whew

[snow hamlet]

It’s also an rpg

[versed cypress]

lost ark is very much a MMORPG

[thin rose]

I must be getting confused

Ark

As in

The dinosaur game

[versed cypress]

no

[lunar reef]

No

[cold jackal]

no lol

[thin rose]

Wtf is lost ark?

[lunar reef]

Lost Ark as in the MMORPG game

[versed cypress]

search lost ark on steam

[cold jackal]

korean mmo

[snow hamlet]

Lost Ark is a arpg-style mmo that came out in the west in the last year

[lunar reef]

Diablo had a baby with BDO and Lost Ark popped out

[thin rose]

The only game ark I can think off is the one where you tame dinosaurs

[versed cypress]

its a korean style MMORPG tht is considered the best to come out in the last few years cause its actualy semi decent

[thin rose]

Is it anything like idleon?

Oh it's another bdo

[snow hamlet]

Not at all, other than free and connected to maple story through its Korean roots

[thin rose]

[snow hamlet]

Much less scummy than bdo

And plays like Diablo, kinda

[thin rose]

BDO wasn't that bad

[azure spindle]

does anybody know off hand how much each tier of treats is and how many to get to the next tiersÉ

?

for pets to be clear

[thin rose]

It's been changed

So no

[azure spindle]

trying to figure out how much 200 treats is in gems/real money

[thin rose]

It's apparently 350$ for doot

[snow hamlet]

Isn’t the snail in this game based on a system that BDO also has?

[versed cypress]

5 from treat 1 to 2, then 10 for treat 2 to 3, 20 claims for treat 3 to 4

[tawdry steeple]

it's $500 for doot

166/200 was only $375 dollars

[azure spindle]

oof, so basically he took the communities calculated average and made it a guaranteed average

[rigid cloak]

i dont see the 350

[snow hamlet]

I thought like 250$ was average?

[versed cypress]

th fact that 45 bucks is not even 20 rolls is a bit insane

[rigid cloak]

no because the treats cost more and more

[azure spindle]

I had heard 500 was average and like 1700 was guaranteed

[rigid cloak]

anyone saying 350 doesnt know that treats start costing 250 at max

[versed cypress]

before doot average was around 500

pretty much

[cold jackal]

it was never guaranteed

[versed cypress]

they go up in price as the treat level goes up

1700 was like 99% chance to get it on average

[azure spindle]

I mean 99% or something, from what I remember on the discussion

[cold jackal]

yeah still not guaranteed, you could do a million rolls and still not get it xd

[thin rose]

Atleast it's guaranteed now

Which isn't necessarily bad

[versed cypress]

the treat price if i remember right is 100, 120, 150, 200 and 250 correct

[azure spindle]

but 500$ is still rough

[thin rose]

True

[cold jackal]

its also 500 usd, so big oof if you aren't american

[azure spindle]

worse as for me cause that's in usd

[snow hamlet]

It’s ridiculous, depending on how long it is between rotations

Lava should just makes pet rotations permanent

[thin rose]

I wonder if lava will ever change the currency

[azure spindle]

what do pets recycle for or is it one of those not worth mentioning things?

[thin rose]

Because if you lived in turkey for example 500$ is like the equivalent of 2000$

[snow hamlet]

Move doggo to world 6 when it launches and doot is the w6 chase pet, then have 1 season per world. 1 pull per week on each season. Still 4 years f2p, still stupid, should be 5-10 pulls per week, but then fomo is cut back on

[thin rose]

World 6 will be Atleast 3-4 months I imagine

[haughty path]

So what's the story with Vman and second spec? Do you need to do speedruns in both specs to get differing points values?

[versed cypress]

when you have a community that wants the best biggest bonus on day 1, you dont need FOMO

ppl are still going to spend mayor money to get the pets on day one even if we had like daily free claims

[versed cypress]

if lava sticks to his usual update schedules between releasing a boss and the next worls, we will probably see nw6 early next year with a good teaser on november or december

[thin rose]

Hopefully this one's a bit quicker

[versed cypress]

with how he works i dount it will take him less than 6to 8 months

caus ehe is quite indecisive when it comes to world skills

[thin rose]

Well he said earlier he's only focusing on content now

Which is good Atleast

Did you see him in gen chat earlier?

[versed cypress]

what did he said???

[thin rose]

People were just being rude and clowning him, was super unecessary tbh

[versed cypress]

and well at least he did posted a sort of push on the road map

thats ppl in the gen chat for you

as with many things, the worst most toxic part of the community thends to scream the loudest

when they dont get their way

[azure spindle]

I mean that's also what you get when you don't respond and do any pr

[thin rose]

Nah

[azure spindle]

not justifying it but that's at least partially due to own actions

[versed cypress]

NOTHING, NOTHING, excuses the behaviur some ppl take and took the past few weeks regarding lava and the mods, going as far as to go into death threats...

[thin rose]

It's bad enough the mods were getting harassed and getting death threats on the daily

[snow hamlet]

Where were there death threats lol

[versed cypress]

i dont care how many you are about the update, nothing excuses th ebehaviour many ppl took

[thin rose]

Hotair even had people coming into his twitch chat giving him death threats

[snow hamlet]

He deserves to have mad shade thrown, that’s all I saw

[thin rose]

Mods

Not lava

[snow hamlet]

Ah

[azure spindle]

yeah that's fair, there is a line and death threats is too far. Wasn't aware it was to that degree

[versed cypress]

lava got his fair share of those on the release stream too med

[thin rose]

Not surprised

[versed cypress]

and all the mods got harrased badly

[quasi galleon]

Death threats on multiple occasions

[thin rose]

Yeah here's hotair

[quasi galleon]

I saw several people permanently lose their twitch accounts

[versed cypress]

hey hot

[thin rose]

Mods shouldn't have to deal with stuff like that

[quasi galleon]

Howdy

Nobody should have to

[versed cypress]

im glad they lost it, nothing excuses such behaviour

[quasi galleon]

But like, what the fuck did I do to anyone?

[haughty path]

Not a single person involved in that has any rational thought.

[thin rose]

Like I understand being upset over a game feature but holy did this community show how immature and childish they were in the past 2 weeks

[quasi galleon]

And now we're in round 2

[primal bison]

Gen chat the worst kinda people fr

[versed cypress]

my favorite was how much ppl were pushign to be assholes to th emods and lava, get banned then all go together saying ohh i got banned and i dont know why

[thin rose]

Like, I'm x years old I can't imagine going out of my way too harass or give people death threats over a video game

[ashen marsh]

should I unlock both of these?

[haughty path]

Round 2 won't last as long I would speculate. Lava answered, it wasn't what they wanted and no-one is saying "an update is coming"

[versed cypress]

geeze >< i do hope things dont go to such lenghts, >< and im really sorry you and th eothers have to go trough it

[quasi galleon]

yes

[round furnace]

since when did gaming communities start taking death threats seriously lol, Ive gotten hundreds over the years in dogshit console lobby's. never thought twice about it

[quasi galleon]

Unlock all the superbits

[grand dagger]

what is this?

[versed cypress]

if you have the bits to spare sure

[thin rose]

Shovel that gives you nugets

Nugets multiple your bit gain

[opaque sun]

Yeah you are fine with your room mate taking $1000 from your pocket and come back 2 weeks later that he bought a new ad

[quasi galleon]

I mean, most money from the game goes towards advertising

That's how you're here

[ashen marsh]

or should I save for oceanside package? It will take me about 12 more hours

[thin rose]

Talking like lava robbed us what

Dude didn't sneak into our room and take money

[azure spindle]

I'm just reading through all the lava comments now and I get probably were in response to a lot of people crying in gen chat but oof

[zealous niche]

Been here from day 1

[thin rose]

We give it to him

[quasi galleon]

You're also not the person I said that to lol

[opaque sun]

“I took 1000$ from you and was considering paying back if you didnt eat yesterday, but since you seem to be healthy im not giving you back any”

[quasi galleon]

They joined in 2021

[worn glade]

which of the limited specials goods that is worth to spend gem with?

[versed cypress]

if you still dont have a flow of bits to get the ammounts the super bits need easily, continue levleing and unlocking the boxes etc superbits will come latter easily

[zealous niche]

Keychains look nice to me

[round furnace]

atleast after 4 years you can get your doot

[thin rose]

The sailor hat is also pretty nice

For the 10% drop rate

[ashen marsh]

okay sure I'll wait and buy it

[worn glade]

aight thankss guyss

[zealous niche]

And aesthetics

[thin rose]

True

[opaque sun]

respawn keychain better than IS keychain for gmush farming

[thin rose]

I need a second sailor hat for my 2nd sb

Tbf I also wish I had a wiz hat for all my characters

The 5% all stat is pretty sweet

[umbral tapir]

Anyone feel like ripping me a new one? https://ice_beaver.idleonefficiency.com

[haughty path]

I'm surprised you've not gone postal to be fair Hot. Plenty of people deserving bans have survived a long time in the last week

[thin rose]

That new trophy looks pretty nuts, 35% dmg

[opaque sun]

the dmg is what ever

[quasi galleon]

I'm pretty level headed, I feel.

[opaque sun]

Its the dr

[thin rose]

The lvl 450 requirement is rough

[quasi galleon]

Years of being a streamer and being an admin in various communities have lead to this point for me

[opaque sun]

42% *2 basically replaces current bis lucky lad

[snow hamlet]

Everything I’ve seen with you agrees with that Hotair

[zealous niche]

It’s fair

[modern plaza]

damn i was really hoping that trophy was in the bundle lol

[snow hamlet]

You’re the only mod I’ve seen talk lol

[thin rose]

I guess

[opaque sun]

450 is easy when you can farm wurms

[modern plaza]

it shits lucky lad to oblivion

[snow hamlet]

Geez 450?

[thin rose]

Reshaken and reko talks often enough

[raven fog]

Guys i have lvl 41 poision and still cnat do round 120 i want the afk prayer

Do i need higher lvl or what

[quasi galleon]

It'll be far harder to get the trophy than it will be to meet the requirement to wear it.

[snow hamlet]

All in all, the content of this update looks pretty hype, can’t wait until I can craft 10 sets of troll armor 🙂

[tranquil surge]

https://srslybro69.idleonefficiency.com/

can someone do me next

not after a roast just where im going wrong

[versed cypress]

hotair you have the patience of a saint, i just took a look at gen chat and ohhh boy.... i cant with some of those comments

[versed cypress]

im really curious about how we would aquire it

[crisp silo]

after the tasks right?

[quasi galleon]

It's okay, I'm apparently someone who deflects the issue constantly just because I point out assumptions and correct misconceptions lol

[thin rose]

Gardevoir is the only sane gen chatter

[zealous niche]

It would help

[quasi galleon]

The quests

[raven fog]

But what id the minimum

[heady scaffold]

the armor looks worse than magma for stat and damage, and the lose slot stones just arent worth imo, otherwise the boss update seems ok

[raven fog]

Am o doing something wrong

[versed cypress]

ahhhhh well i have a long way to work on those xDDD, im finaly goign to be comming back to the game properly since work is thinning out now that con seasson is wraping out xDD

[haughty path]

I've been competing for least sane dissenter over the past week. I was hoping that could end, but I've got at least another week of fun in gen chat.

[thin rose]

My dumb ass thought it was a kattle drop

[snow hamlet]

Wait, really?

I just saw the scarf and salivated

[modern plaza]

wait thats the legendary trophy?

so we do the mole quest on every character i guess?

[heady scaffold]

armor as in the 4 slots on the left

[quasi galleon]

Good luck doing the last quest on each character lol

[thin rose]

Just go in and say "hey I just got doot for 300$" if you wanna cause a havoc and get 20+ clown emoji reactions

[latent chasm]

what is the iou quest item for

[thin rose]

Gen chat is an actual piranha pool

[quasi galleon]

It's for the W6 portal stone

[haughty path]

Ah, that's too easy. Better to make the opposite arguments of the upset and watch as they tell me all the issues with the argument!

[heady scaffold]

weapon is better, scarf is better by a lot, trophy is good

[tranquil surge]

yeah bet

[rigid cloak]

is the full quest on the wiki yet?

[snow hamlet]

What are the quests?

[versed cypress]

welp time to farm keys cause we are going to be farming this boss a lot it seems xDD

[opaque sun]

Iou is always given for killing the last boss before a new world

[strong socket]

everything is on the wiki i think

[versed cypress]

not yet

[rigid cloak]

baited

[versed cypress]

it just came out wiki takes a while to update with all the new things

[rigid cloak]

yeah thats why i asked lol

[opaque sun]

takes longer if lava says “no spoiler”

[strong socket]

n

[modern plaza]

haha ok 9/10 characters?

[quasi galleon]

Good luck on 1/10

[snow hamlet]

Okay but what’s the quest

[willow sorrel]

Anyone on iOS confirm if kattlecrukis there cos I’m on ios and I can’t see it at biggie mole

[rigid cloak]

oh it is on the wiki

[strong socket]

everything is posted already kek

[modern plaza]

no one even has the final quest unlocked i imagine

[willow sorrel]

I can’t see the npc either

[thin rose]

Have you done any of them yet?

I'm curious to what they are

[lusty stratus]

ios always have update delay

[quasi galleon]

My rng isn't that good

[opaque sun]

get cape while equipping kattle scraf

[modern plaza]

Hotair probably beta tested haha

[thin rose]

What's the first one

[willow sorrel]

Weird cos I saw the lava message of kattlecruk being there in game

[quasi galleon]

First quest?

[snow hamlet]

Oh, it’ll be easy for me. I’m just going to kill the boss a bunch

[quasi galleon]

6mil moles, same as it takes to get to the next map

[thin rose]

[quasi galleon]

Then 10mil crawlers, same as it takes to get to the next map

[snow hamlet]

That’s considerate at least lol

[thin rose]

[opaque sun]

best done afk as like suggma quest, active doesnt count mk

[quasi galleon]

Then you'll find out the next when it's shared by someone else

[thin rose]

Well then

[modern plaza]

kill Kattlecrunk nightmare mode 100 times

[thin rose]

Give Gardevoir a day

[tranquil surge]

@quasi galleon can you enable slow mode in general for a laugh? XD

[quasi galleon]

Only Lava can change slowmode

[opaque sun]

6mil moles > 10m crawlers > get cape drop with scarf equipped

[tranquil surge]

ahh

[quasi galleon]

I can on the IS server, but not here

[thin rose]

Rip

[dapper prism]

New keychains basically a bis?

[modern plaza]

idk how but my crit chance is 170%, creeping up to that always mega crit woot 😄

[dapper prism]

More accuracy = more crit (from the star talent probably) as its easy to get accuracy over time in w5

[modern plaza]

for everyone other than Bubo and Divine Knight i imagine

[opaque sun]

for gmush farming, fomo 20% respawn was better than IS afk gain keychains for me

[quasi galleon]

Better for Vman speedruns than others

[dapper prism]

at least we get a 1 gem slab instead of 250 😄
https://i.imgur.com/kQ0n6I0.png

[opaque sun]

not like you really need respawn for active tho

[quasi galleon]

Yeah, finally got that slab slot after all these years lol

[dapper prism]

Vman sample run?

I imagine dmg keychains would still be more important for portal run

[quasi galleon]

damage keychains are bad though

[opaque sun]

Respawn doesnt do much for the speed run, but helps withe the samples

[modern plaza]

wait so for the Vman talents.... i can max out 1 of each of the stat increase and jump on every character and max out there stat, then reset vman and repeat??? 🙂

[dapper prism]

yes

[quasi galleon]

Technically yes

[dapper prism]

Do that, and repspec all skill trees, worth it:
https://i.imgur.com/xlEEmEN.png

[modern plaza]

insane accuracy boost too

[dapper prism]

And thats without even having the max Wis books in my other tabs

[quasi galleon]

Two bosses at once

[opaque sun]

If you can afford, keeping that base stat talent adds more, but just for raising the max levels you only need to do it temporarily

[spring yarrow]

So are the pets going to rotate?

[azure spindle]

it does mean that other things that increase the max value of talents are useless for those skills though if you respec'd the vman

[spring yarrow]

So even now that king doot is 100% after 200 pulls, its still p2w if next rotation its not going to be there?

[dapper prism]

Only until you go back and respec him back and forth again 😄

[azure spindle]

yeah was just meaning in general

at least it's a decent use for all those respect items that just kinda stockpile

[modern plaza]

ahh, so max out 245 all the talents that max other talents then do this

[lean beacon]

whats the new cape?

[dapper prism]

There's a new cape?

[quasi galleon]

boss cape

[azure spindle]

Pretty much

[opaque sun]

afk 3%

[lean beacon]

it said they added a new cape for kattlekruk

[opaque sun]

Its like a f2p afk cape, but more importantly for the trophy requirement (or more like a receipt of the trophy)

[azure spindle]

that trophy looks nuts

I've just been using megs on everyone so will be a nice dps update

[lean beacon]

new trophy?

whats it do / look like

[opaque sun]

42% dr trophy

[opaque sun]

Effectively 84% dr with doubler chip

[lean beacon]

thats pretty broken

[dapper prism]

Lol, upgrade slots used up even if failed 👀

[opaque sun]

replaces lucky lad

[azure spindle]

yeah that's gonna be rough

[sharp wind]

So 10/10 completed then the trophy drop? Or each complete give u 1 trophy(which in total can give u 10)?

[dapper prism]

but 74% not too bad

[quasi galleon]

You can get a trophy for each character

potentially

[modern plaza]

is it rng based?

[quasi galleon]

Very much so

[modern plaza]

fuuuu

[latent chasm]

wait how do u get the trophy?

[quasi galleon]

Quest

[latent chasm]

oh ok