lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[gilded orchid]

Just read it a lil

and get back to me

[ashen marsh]

sorry im super hungover right now

[spare sigil]

hello

whats the fastest way to farm deathnote?

[gilded orchid]

With a siege breaker

[opaque sun]

use candy on ES

[gilded orchid]

eh well, both correct

[opaque sun]

Using candy on siege breaker is more recommended for more value

But since the question was “fastest”

[gilded orchid]

It gives you the production from anvil

Yeah

@spare sigil all depends on what state your account is at, what level / damages your characters have and which of them gets the highest kill per hour

[opaque sun]

ES gets more kills via mana is life which is basically like an additional trilobite artifact

[granite grove]

SB candy also good for bar forging, tho ES has more Mk buff

[gilded orchid]

His ES might not be juiced up by stamps, we would need to know more @spare sigil

[spare sigil]

hmm im just in w5 for like 3-4 weeks, im trying to make a voidwalker haha

[vocal ibex]

Gonna take some time and or candy 🍬 😋

[gilded orchid]

It's probably best for you to test it with each of your characters to see which gets the highest kp/h

So like your "main" SB, ES DK give them a test

[dapper prism]

You know you very quick and easily hit forging bar cap with like sub 2mins

[hexed crescent]

I just noticed #welcome-faq still says this

[vapid wraith]

That's a typo. It's supposed to say "FOR gamers to spend money"

Not sure why it isn't fixed yet.

[granite grove]

oh yeah forgot the miniscule forge cap in comparison to end game Kph rates

[raven fog]

!cookingchart

[dapper prism]

How damn rare are directional XP cogs....

[vagrant mountain]

there are direction XP cogs?

[dapper prism]

yes and they multiply ontop of your current xp rate, so they are super strong, but i feel like they are just super damn rare xD

[vagrant mountain]

only ever seen BR and FR personally

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/G7IKwsJ.png

[vagrant mountain]

how many green crystals do I need to buy

[dapper prism]

Lol

Gotta keep those cogs coming:
https://i.imgur.com/vaKc14C.png

[vagrant mountain]

heh. I just started making red cogs

[dapper prism]

Just always check every directional cog, make sure u keep it if its directional xp

Besides that, make sure everything has XP on it is the other thing

[vagrant mountain]

yeah Ive been farming XP cogs and trying to point every build rate cog at my DKs

[dapper prism]

You can also aim speed to flags (not flag rate) at your flags:"
https://i.imgur.com/Oh667ne.png

[vagrant mountain]

even though I'm in w5, I rushed the hell out of it, so this is how I feel in this chat

[dapper prism]

Flag rate increases the flag rate from your alts on board. speed to flag opop

[dapper prism]

Lol

Gotta get those account wisde stats

I rushed the same thing, started 3/11, w5 by 4/3

[vagrant mountain]

I'm trying to convince someone that doot let me into w5 off the bat

is there a way to check my start date?

[dapper prism]

Mhm, not fully except:
If u started on Steam, check your file dates.
If u joined discord right away at the same time, check your discord server date which is may 20th for you.

[vagrant mountain]

ty, pretty sure discord is accurate because I can't remember if I started on android or steam

dang I got w5 last week so it was literally 1 month

u quick boy, I thought I was fast

you did it in 3 weeks

[dapper prism]

I love to min max, already on day 1 I was asking a ton of questions 😄

[vagrant mountain]

[dapper prism]

Also always hanging out in the question channels, reading some stuff, before hitting new worlds already browse them to get the most out of it. Love myself a challenge

[vagrant mountain]

I love to min max too but I think iwas just messing around the first few days

[dapper prism]

I was already answering/helping people on like day 2-3 based on the info i got

[vagrant mountain]

I should have been in discord more, I watched a lot of YouTube at the start

[dapper prism]

Helps remember the info easier when you repeat it

[vagrant mountain]

true

[granite grove]

also do note to not finish early game quest on all chars, you will eventually want that Dog Bone green stack from Amarok key quest

[vagrant mountain]

I realized a week into the game that most of the info on YouTube is outdated

[vagrant mountain]

thanks, I would have totally completed that quest without a second thought

[dapper prism]

Greenstack, sadly didnt know about that back then xD
https://i.imgur.com/UDNcTci.png

[granite grove]

make like 9&10 char complete minimal quest as possible to farm 10m quest item later

[dapper prism]

Had to get those free keys and slabs

[edgy sorrel]

why is this damn resource so rare compared to everything else

i get like 10k of everything else without issues, but i get none of those damn trees

[vagrant mountain]

almost done w1 chows 💀 might just say fuck it let him cook after this

[signal lava]

doing chows first when you don't have a higher multikill is the hardest way you can do them

[raven fog]

U never did skull on othe characters

It’s 1mil each woth bb only

I am seeing some weird accounts

[vagrant mountain]

my account is 9 lab 1 bb chowing

😆

[raven fog]

But i cant say anything he has doot

He will beat my acc soon

[raven fog]

Average doot user

Jk

[vagrant mountain]

heh

say what u want, u can't prevent me from enjoying doot

[young locust]

How many pulls for doot tho

[vagrant mountain]

the green pack plus $20 green crystal pack

[granite grove]

is it worth to have 9 chars in lab just for BB chowing tho? i mean could push to w5, get bear to free other chars then have BB for chow

or if already have w5, use bear and have other chars do other stuff

[young locust]

Thats so good

[vagrant mountain]

I have 9 characters in lab farming lab exp and mantra exp for div

[granite grove]

ok fair so goat god

[vagrant mountain]

gonna hit LVL 40 in under 2 days and then everyone will be on tranqi

and I will have 10 chars unleashed

although my short attention span can only realistically handle 2

[young locust]

Not sure what I would do if i had to manage all 10

[vagrant mountain]

farm nuget cakes obv

[young locust]

would have to manage my last 3 toons

victims of neglect

[vagrant mountain]

the last ones are the worst frfr

[magic ginkgo]

Is it not this kill that counting
To chow and super

[dapper dome]

https://i.imgur.com/uiZyNDt.png

Should I burn a majority upping plant limit, or bump up other stuff first?

[young locust]

Pretty sure plant limit is the best to raise first

[sweet mountain]

Okay, It has been almost 2 weeks now and I only follow Discord, don't know if Lava has any other social media he post updates. Was there any word about the last update, or he is in radio silence mode still? Really wanted to hear what he has to say about it.

[dapper dome]

Radio silence

no point in waiting. he's gonna pretend the outrage never happened

people are still playing, people are still spending. no point of even acknowledging it at this point lol

[sweet mountain]

Well. That sucls. I'm okay if he stand his ground. But ignoring is pretty much invalidating our opinion.

[young locust]

Just ignore the 26% steam reviews XD

[dapper dome]

oh damn, next plant is 19T after this

[dapper prism]

The only post he can get away with is a post that's good news

Like, no point posting anything else really

More like a "here is W6 btw" everyone forgets about everything else

[dapper dome]

i personally dont even check steam reviews , ive played plenty of games ive enjoyed that had negative recents idk

[dapper prism]

And all google and apple reviews are still at like 4.5/5

[steady token]

I failed to level snail to lv7, for the first time

[young locust]

The whole game is really good still

[steady token]

is there a snail guide?

[vagrant mountain]

yeah even though I'm not vehemently opposed to the companions update like everyone else, I'm not spending more money if the next update is another money grab

[young locust]

I was holding off on spending for doot until he posted some more info

[dapper dome]

idk ive played a lot of p2w shit, so this still isnt really bad compared to what im used to

im enjoying things still

[young locust]

In terms of other gacha games I've played its pretty brutal

[glossy dawn]

rift tear drop chance

[young locust]

at least he doesnt cap AFK gains

[glossy dawn]

rift 2

[vagrant mountain]

I agree, but I also know what happens when every update is a must buy to stay relevant update

[dapper dome]

i meannnn, people been letting plenty of p2w slide lol

extra card slots, extra food slots, second printer for each character, card packs, chips, jewels

[young locust]

You can farm gems though so technically its F2P

[dapper dome]

free pet per week

its trash, but free

[vagrant mountain]

yeah, I am a whale/dolphin in most games, I have spent more than I'd like to admit on gacha and games but in that same sense, I have no sense of sunk cost phallacy anymore 😀, if I have to whale to have fun, there are more fun games to whale in heh

[young locust]

https://tenor.com/view/ksi-horror-scared-reaction-gif-20205668

[sweet mountain]

Not the ones from the new mechanic. That's a huge problem.

[dapper dome]

dayum, old school KSI

imagine if he did his R face nowadays, cancelled in seconds

[glossy dawn]

how to get through rift 6 need how much damage and drop rate

[young locust]

Just active there for a bit

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/The_Rift

Rift 6 spawns skulls on enemies when you kill them

[glossy dawn]

like rift tear how much drop rate

2

[modern plaza]

oof im only getting about 20 pens/hr on snelbies... guess it's actually kinda decent 😄

[dreamy merlin]

id prob get 1 pen every 20 hours lol

[modern plaza]

ton of dices flowing in tho

[young locust]

Have to check in every now and then though

otherwise you come back to 500 obols

[glossy dawn]

rift need how much damage and drop rate to get rift 6 14

and i dont know active

is it auto

[young locust]

Click AFK info it says the enemy HP

[glossy dawn]

is minmum or maximum damage my character should get

[modern plaza]

minimum damage determines the first multikill breakpoint, then max dmg determines the breakpoints once you get that

[glossy dawn]

whats breakpoint is max kph

i mean active

[simple palm]

For the "real" active kills you Just need to always one shot the mobs

[serene forum]

Do i need to unlock starsigns for infinity starsigns to work?

Nvm I already know the answer just am really behind on starsigns. Didnt even do w3 ones yet

Another question. Whats best character to have a second one? I have one of each class. And 2 void walkers

[edgy sorrel]

DK?

[serene forum]

Im guessing dk as well

Is ES better than DK when it comes to farming pens?

[edgy sorrel]

Dk > Es for crystals for pens

[opaque sun]

im sure the first multikill is to get your max damage of 2x hp of mob

Min damage doesnt do anything for multikill calculation

Unless you mean kill cap/speed cap of a zone

[gilded orchid]

I did my pen farming at the skeleton dudes in W3 it was great

[raven fog]

Guy’s if i get like 2500% from fungi finger does money card really matter ?

[gilded orchid]

Yes for your bubo

Your bubo will produce the highest amount of money out of anyone by an incredible margin

[vagrant mountain]

money buys happiness

[raven fog]

But is 25% added to 3500 really matter ?

[gilded orchid]

Yes

[raven fog]

Or is it multiplactive

[gilded orchid]

There is a lot more bonuses for money than just 25%

[raven fog]

Am i not better off using other cards

[gilded orchid]

Of course, use the cards applicable to what you're doing at the time.

Don't run around with money cards on all the time, you will use them in select situations

[raven fog]

Yah but u get me right like the bonus from card looks so small compared to lab

[gilded orchid]

It looks small, I can't say how its calculated but you still use them regardless.

Probably additive tbf

[median shale]

Wouldn't make me forget spending all that money for nothing tbh.

[raven fog]

How many gmush kills u got

[gilded orchid]

Over 100billion now

or 10b w/e it is

Ill check now I can't remember lol

[raven fog]

What how many kills u get per hour

I do like 2.6 mill

So at this point should i be farming the eldrich skulls ?

[gilded orchid]

Ehhh how many total gmush kills do you have?

[raven fog]

Just got my eldrich skull

So 1 bill

[gilded orchid]

So you're about the same as me yeah

[raven fog]

Is this 1000 bill

[gilded orchid]

fked if I know honest im blazed out of my mind

could be 1000b to me

[novel scarab]

Can anyone send me list of how much companion cost?

[raven fog]

Nooo

It’s 1 billion

[raven fog]

700$ for king doot

Average

[sick wharf]

Some of them are additive in groups and the groups themselves are multiplicative so every % matters

[novel scarab]

I need to much how much per pull~

[gilded orchid]

how much per pull?

250 green gems at max tier

Yes the price increases 150%

[novel scarab]

i heard it gets more expensive as you pull more

[gilded orchid]

.

[dreamy merlin]

all ik is base 100 max 250

[novel scarab]

250? ouch

[gilded orchid]

.

from 100 to 250

as you do more pulls it gets more expensive

[opaque sun]

you get 3x odds, but yeah costs 250 per pull

[gilded orchid]

3x odds what a joke, its always 50/50

get it or u dont

rest is just shit to make u spend more

[novel scarab]

true

im backing out i guess

[gilded orchid]

Dont spend on it

you might lose hundrds

[opaque sun]

and is the whole reason doot vs frog trade will happen because you can miss getting a common rarity pet

[gilded orchid]

possibly hit a thousand dollars without getting doot

[gilded orchid]

I've started working on the next 1b death note for the skull, they are strong skulls.

[runic token]

Damn, I got chemical plant AND eldritch fury in the same day 🙏

[gilded orchid]

Huge grats!

[modern plaza]

HUGE!!!

[modern plaza]

u'll probably get a free one ❤️

[gilded orchid]

just logged in and finished 1,000 books checked out

[dreamy merlin]

i wish i did

not even at 100 though lol

[gilded orchid]

max level is 220 right now

for books

so 245 I will be when I finallyyyyy get an eldritch fury

[ashen marsh]

damn, i'm stuck here

do I just need more damage to defeat the healing ones?

[dreamy merlin]

yea basically

[gilded orchid]

No

[ashen marsh]

yeah it keeps on healing

[gilded orchid]

You need a voidinator

It removes their special effectw

[ashen marsh]

ahhhh the last tower right

[gilded orchid]

Place one in front of the boulders

and it will save ur run

[ashen marsh]

I havent unlocked it yet lol

[gilded orchid]

Then you've reached your hard cap

[dreamy merlin]

if they cant beat this i doubt they have void

[gilded orchid]

I dont even recognize where he is up too in the waves, just going off normal stuffz

[ashen marsh]

wave 60

[gilded orchid]

yeah ur hard capped at 60 then

[ashen marsh]

rip

[dreamy merlin]

i was able to reach it without even kraken,lost to it,but reached it

[gilded orchid]

until voidinator or u level up boulder roller enough that it just mega slaps them down

Make sure you put only %exp cogs on your cog board, gotta get the level up no matter what

Exp > everything construction related

High level con = winning

putting build rate / flaggy rate on cog board = big no

[ashen marsh]

yes, I think 90% of my cogs have exp

[gilded orchid]

Awesome, happy idling

[dreamy merlin]

what abt build rate buff cogs

[ashen marsh]

if I forfeit the TD will it count my max wave?

[gilded orchid]

at the last set of 10 waves u complete, u leave 69 its 60

Wait no, it should go 68

I think what I'm talking about applies if you spam click waves

because if u spam click and lose to the waves, it will only count the last wave you actually fully killed all monsters

[ashen marsh]

yeah I just forfeit and my max wave is 58

[gilded orchid]

yep good stuff

[ashen marsh]

good thing it didnt go to 50

[gilded orchid]

Also for a disclaimer, the directional flaggy rate cogs ARE good to use, you must have them sitting somewhere where they hit all of the flaggies you got going

And also the directional build rate if im not wrong, @dapper prism knows more of the topic he could help

[dreamy merlin]

thats what i asked but you said no now im confused

[gilded orchid]

I thought you meant just normal build rate cogs

The directional ones* are good

[dreamy merlin]

Ik. Thats why i said "buff"

[gilded orchid]

yeah sorry 🙂

If trickz is awake to see the tag then he can definitely provide a lot more in depth information about it, I don't know exactly the min maxing for cog board

and I could care less spam exp cogs and win game

[dreamy merlin]

Best strat ever

[lapis cloud]

So any one know why void speedrun skill sets all kills to 2m?

Not mentioned anywhere that i know of

[gilded orchid]

Pretty sure it only resets your Maestros death note kills?

[lapis cloud]

Yeah

[gilded orchid]

So you can't stack insane levels of death note using vmans multi kill ability

[lapis cloud]

But even afterwards?

[gilded orchid]

yeah nah fk knows why it doesn't come back

[lapis cloud]

Lol

Fair enough,

[gilded orchid]

Just how it is, don't do death note on vman

[lapis cloud]

Yeah, noted.

[gilded orchid]

Death noted, perhaps?

[opaque sun]

vman shares same portal progress as the most progressed guy. Reason is lava couldnt make normal portal count and void portal count separate

It used to reset to 0 kills, but later lava made it to carry a static 2m kills for a purpose of deathnote

[sick wharf]

Is idleoninsight not working?

[gilded orchid]

The owner probably took it down like the others have been doing in protect of the gamba

[sick wharf]

🫡

[deep oxide]

Insight is still up.

[leaden karma]

i need help. this dude didn't give his token after finishing his quest, did i do something wrong?

[deep oxide]

If I recall click him a few times and he'll drop it.

[leaden karma]

ohhhhhh it works! tnx a lot

[acoustic karma]

Hey guys, i just got this artifact and for some reason it says 0% even though i have over 100k construction. Does anyone know how to fix?

[low snow]

Relog

[dusty sand]

Change the map do it can count your bonus

[acoustic karma]

ok i got it now

i have 27% now

thanks

[deft grail]

I just want Kattlecrunk so I feel like the game is done

[modern plaza]

haha 😂 watch how expensive the craft will be

[gilded orchid]

Game is done

[modern plaza]

Early Access is done. The real game has just begun

[dreamy merlin]

unless lava quit from the hate

[modern plaza]

just needs a vacation is how i see it.

[quartz pollen]

how do you guys farm skilling cards?

[low snow]

Vman

[quartz pollen]

Does skill efficiency matter?

[opaque sun]

Only up to 100% accuracy

[low snow]

Afaik only for fishing. Not sure tho

[quartz pollen]

I see, thanks

[opaque sun]

for fishing it helps to get more efficiency as since there are 4 fishes in one pool, it actually calculates rare drops per amount of fishes

[low snow]

Also goes for exp while fishing. At least a little help since fishing exp is terribad

[opaque sun]

On other single material nodes, feel free to use transfusion if you can maintain 100% accuracy

[quartz pollen]

What about mob cards? ES?

[gilded orchid]

Mob cards?

[west slate]

Anyone else having weird issues with the anvil and the slab? A lot of my items that I have unlocked and used multiple times since then won't let me craft it from inventory like it's a new item and a lot of my items aren't showing up on the slab and I have to re-obtain them is this a known bug or what

[gilded orchid]

What are mob cards

[low snow]

Cards from mobs

[quartz pollen]

monster cards

[opaque sun]

ES for mob cards as cards are also counted as rare drops

[gilded orchid]

Oooh

I thought u meant a set of cards

Yeah ES

ES for everything but statues and crystals

and money* e_e

[opaque sun]

ES works great for w3 skill statues as those are drops from the mobs and not from crystal btw

[west slate]

Because for a lot of my items on the anvil I've had to recraft just for them to not work crafting from storage again 😐

[narrow cloak]

are there any non-w5 cards that can help with getting div points or div xp? seems like skill xp and afk gains cards don't work, i'm guessing only biggie hours?

[hollow wasp]

hello, i just unlocked w5 now

[grand karma]

only biggie

[low snow]

W4 and higher skills are excluded from normal skill exp increases for some reason

[bright current]

probs to try make end gamers who were ready pre world launch and people just making it to that world a... slightly similar i guess?... experience

[dapper prism]

@gilded orchid And here i was thinking i wouldnt get an artifact for like a day...
https://i.imgur.com/N329r0c.png

4 more chars to login.. lets get that eldritch

tempted to gemshop it tbh

[viral snow]

havent seen an artifact for 5days now

[odd radish]

If I got a king doot pet... do I still need to link to get the minor link bonuses?

[untold saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/old-boomer-history-84years-many-years-ago-gif-18534104

[dreamy merlin]

No

[jagged barn]

Only to purr div

Just 1 char

[stoic verge]

Anyone have any tips on getting the lava skulls on rift 17?

[bright current]

doot

also

dont use DK

bubo is alright, ES can be annoying if a skulled mob despawns

SB is good

[sacred frigate]

Does the snail for gaming only collect mail on daily reset or can it be sped up with chem plants?

[strong socket]

reset

[opaque sun]

purrmep needs physical link or else the minor link specifically doesnt active even with doot

But you still get the div 2x regardless tho

[vocal warren]

I can see what happened in this channel 2.5 hours ago without scrolling.. wheres everyone?

[opaque sun]

in our hearts

[bold quiver]

only 4 more

[noble mesa]

So close , yet , so far

[bold quiver]

took me so long to get eldrich fury back with all boats going there =/ slowed medown a lot

[tacit tulip]

Banned or quit, mostly

[narrow cloak]

anyone ever try to figure out what the chance is to get an upgrade/downgrade of the 2 options when spending divinity points?

[bold quiver]

how do u get an downgrade?

[vocal warren]

Was there another banwave in the last few days?

[pulsar cliff]

Nice! I'm at three left

[narrow cloak]

you press 50% and it downgrades to 25%

[bold quiver]

never seen that

[narrow cloak]

or you press 5% and it goes to 1%, happens all the time, just don't have enough sample size to figure out what the chance is, wondering maybe somebody already did the work

[bold quiver]

i just know that there is a chance to roll on each %, there is nothing about downgrading or upgrading haha

u can keep rolling 50% a bunch of times depending on your luck etc

[viral snow]

Isnt leftside always 1/5/10/25 or so ?
So from 25 you can only go down and from 1 only up

[bold quiver]

tehre was a time when i got a streak of 25% on that W5 boss god...... pain

[narrow cloak]

it's 1/5/10 on left 25/50/100 on right

[bold quiver]

25% is on the left also

[next locust]

Yeah I don't think the previous % has any effect on the new %. Maybe a bit higher chance to stay same at most

[bold quiver]

it doesnt

[narrow cloak]

i'm just interested what the chances are for it to change or stay the same so i can calculate the best way

[bold quiver]

there isnt man, its completely random haha

[strong pendant]

Hey how tf does excogia work?

does every quarter have the "boosts everything" buff?

[bold quiver]

probably on wiki u can check the odds of each roll

but each row has no relation to the last roll, they are independent

[narrow cloak]

i checked there isn't any odds in the wiki, and there is a difference in average points spent based on the strategy you take

[prisma vigil]

Which god do I link my ES talent to when skillfarming?

[bold quiver]

u are trying to find a logic on something that is only single roll with no corelation to the last roll

[pulsar cliff]

Yes

[strong pendant]

harriep and arctis or goharut if u are putting them in the lab

[lost beacon]

Have Doot - Focus final Eldritch or push Big P to Atomable?

[bold quiver]

they are not like the rift skulls where there is a chance to evolve to next tier, its just random

100% has the lowest rate of appearing

and so on

[narrow cloak]

but you have a choice of pressing left or right and statistically those choices won't cost the same, i'm trying to find the path to getting a god with least points spend on average

[tacit tulip]

The average cost of each type of roll is the same, most players just roll for 100% so RNG doesn't screw them

[bold quiver]

u might not have noticed but the cost of 100 1% is the same as 100 %, and sso on

2 50% cost the same as 1 100% '.'

[narrow cloak]

ok the average is the same i'm trying to minimize deviation

[bold quiver]

the average isnt the same. The cost is exactly the same

[viral snow]

just get 100% after new god and save for that

[bold quiver]

4 25% is the same as 1 100%

[whole dome]

the cost is the same, but 100x 1% isn't the same odds as 1x 100%, so that's why everyone always goes for 100%

[bold quiver]

the safest route is going for the lowest values until u get 100%

cuz u can gamble 10 times on 50% and lose

[narrow cloak]

and the route to getting a 100% depends on what the chance is to get 100% to pop up, that's why i'm asking for the chances

[bold quiver]

how many gods do u have man?

[narrow cloak]

1

[bold quiver]

so trust players that have finished gods when they say it doesnt matter

they clicked that shit for months

[viral snow]

just do what feels right
that should be the best guess

[whole dome]

idk if anyone even actually knows the % odds for changing the offering, just go for the lowest value til you hit a 100% then save for that

[viral snow]

maybe rub on a buddha statue for extra luck idk

[bold quiver]

specialy when what everyone say is the same

there isnt a magical route to make the 100% chance appear faster, it doesnt exsit

[narrow cloak]

i trust but i wanna verify with math

[bold quiver]

just need to data mine the game then

[viral snow]

then crack source code

[bold quiver]

and its not even that hard lol

[narrow cloak]

will do, was just asking if anyone already did so i don't have to, but i guess not

[tacit tulip]

Then...do the math

[bold quiver]

yeah cuz it doesnt matter haha, cheapest is always clicking left until 100%

[narrow cloak]

i don't know the chances for the percentage change

[tacit tulip]

It doesn't really matter

[whole dome]

from a purely statistical angle it's just the cheapest option because it can mitigate bad luck, and lava doesn't bother with pity, so you could be stuck for a long time if you don't go for the 100%, even if it might take a while to get a 100% to show up

you could theoretically get it earlier if you go for 50% for only half the price, it might also just end up costing you like 6 clicks and then it's 3x the price of a 100%

[bold quiver]

its not like we have 10 choices for each try there isnt much to think

[upbeat trout]

it never reset choices when i click left, at least from what i tried, i got 3 gods with 25% rolls...

[bold quiver]

lucky

[tacit tulip]

Depends how many 25% rolls it was :p

[bold quiver]

is the fastest way to get 1B copper bars to keep doing 2m claim with 2 SB 1 BM?

[tacit tulip]

It still takes ages

[bold quiver]

hmm i can get 1.5M on 2m (around tht i think) oh lord

will they automaticaly be deposited when itss filled or would i have to walk and do it?

[tight ridge]

guys how do i unlock the w4 critter, i finished the duck quest but it didnt unlock it

[next locust]

Do the blob quest in w4

Forgot what zone exactly but about halfway in

[tight ridge]

damn i have to push with my bm

[bold quiver]

why?

u can just get the quest with anyone

[tight ridge]

its global?

[bold quiver]

yes

rewards are too good

[random lake]

yo

any news?

fak

back to gmushing so

[solid schooner]

where to farm pens?

[acoustic karma]

is drop rarity the same as drop rate?

[tacit tulip]

DK on bloodbones is the best spot

[solid schooner]

@tacit tulip dk wich choco chip or without?

[tacit tulip]

With, you want as many crystals as possible 🙂

[cerulean wasp]

Did lava already abandoned this game?

[tough horizon]

hasnt said anything since 17-06

😦

[cerulean wasp]

Since there are no update in #💖future-content-blog , it's could be a possibility

[untold arch]

Alpha out rn

He's just refusing to type anything for some reasons

[rotund smelt]

got the steak

[cerulean wasp]

Ohhh

[tight ridge]

can pop obol become square

[untold arch]

Well, type anything publically, that is

[cerulean wasp]

What the update about?

[untold arch]

[tacit tulip]

Either he's big mad we don't like gacha and is sulking

Or he's working on a big update to fix the issue/distract us

Or he's waiting for it to blow over and pretend nothing happened

[tight ridge]

i vote 1 and 3

[tacit tulip]

Obviously id prefer 2, but either way the lack of communication is annoying

[cerulean wasp]

I don't know if there even a way to fix the gacha thing since lava already got the money

[cerulean wasp]

So i guess it's the third

Just wait for everything to calm down

[zealous niche]

Yes, but dice are better for drop rate in your square slots

[spare ocean]

Its a game of chicken

[tight ridge]

so circle pops and other shapes dice?

[tacit tulip]

this is your goal

[trim folio]

If I need an artifact, Is it a better strategy to open as my treasure chests as possible or wait until rare chests?

[tacit tulip]

quantity>quality, open lots

[trim folio]

thx

[jagged relic]

I haven't got a damn artefact in weeks!!!

Damn it's so frustrating

[viral snow]

Just open more chests

[jagged relic]

🥲

[lilac granite]

useless!!

[steady token]

👀 have anyone tried to farm rare monster drops offline?

like how many hampters will I get per hour if i put 8 characters at stiltmole

[patent surge]

Less than es active in 1 hour

[prime imp]

I got 1/h

9 chars off + 1 active I am making around 300-400 per day, based on my luck

why I cant post pictures in this chanal? :/

[steady token]

ty that's exactly what I need

[viral snow]

Depends on your kph
Just need double the amount liszed in droprate for it to guarantee a drop

[hidden sphinx]

How many hampters are you aiming for?

[steady token]

I cant only acitve one es but I have 9 characters offline

[hidden sphinx]

Was it 200 per magma weapon or only 100?

[steady token]

100 except fist

[hidden sphinx]

How much is fist? I don’t have the recipe and cba to check wiki

[hidden sphinx]

So that’s 3400 hampters for crafting max mat bag and magma weapons for everyone. Idk if it’s needed in another craft

And then the rest go to vial

[steady token]

I still need 2900 hampters

[bold quiver]

huge craft, extra 0;1% dmg

[hidden sphinx]

Eh may as well try craft last possible gear in a line of crafts while we wait for new gear

[bold quiver]

yeah, i'll start on my hampter journey after i finish 1B all material vials with es

[hidden sphinx]

Besides the orange slices and wurm chunks then that’s gunna be easy to do

[steady token]

just use vman and sample them

[hidden sphinx]

Ahahah what

[bold quiver]

yeah will skip those (until i get to trillions of dmg

[hidden sphinx]

You wanna get to 1B mob drop through printing

[bold quiver]

haha i dont have the patience for that, i just slap ES and farm

[hidden sphinx]

Same

[bold quiver]

my maestro is printing fluffly sheep wool tho

[hidden sphinx]

My mman is printing fish

[bold quiver]

progress better than i would expect tho O.O

[hidden sphinx]

My beast master is the one printing mob drops

[bold quiver]

oh im done with fish vials and have 1B saved for stamps, so im chilling there

[hidden sphinx]

Soon you’ll have the vial maxed

[bold quiver]

yeah and i started printinting there 3 days ago, didnt expect to get it so fast

[hidden sphinx]

I just finished goldfish vial

[green wyvern]

Btw stefan, the chances of you getting that was .000000002048%

[bold quiver]

oh congrats dude

[hidden sphinx]

Please tell me you have doot, if not imma cry

[green wyvern]

Or 1/48,828,125

[bold quiver]

i do not hahhaa

[hidden sphinx]

I went through and got all skill vials to lvl 10 before going back and tryna max them

[steady token]

👀 why farm 1b mat if u can print them

[hidden sphinx]

I’m crying fr fr

[bold quiver]

why man, D=

[hidden sphinx]

My spore cap samples are 34k

Tiny

[bold quiver]

oh thats tiny. my sporecap with vman is 1.9M

[sick sentinel]

you need to try vman speedrun samples

[hidden sphinx]

I need to mob sample on vman then

[green wyvern]

Getting all four captain the same is a 1/625 chance, and the chances of getting 7/8 stat types the same is 1/78,125, so 625 × 78125 = 48,828,125 chance

[steady token]

just sample during speedrun

[bold quiver]

the sheep wool is at 850K thats why i got almost 1b so fast

[hidden sphinx]

The fish samples are useless burnt BB also sucks at fishing rn so I wanted some extra prints at least

[lean thistle]

How hard is vman to unlock,

[bold quiver]

Did u know that technicaly BM can prit the same amount of materials than SB??????????

[sick sentinel]

depends on your account progress. newish hard, older easy

[hidden sphinx]

Do you mean for mobs? Or skills

[bold quiver]

cuz BM gets 50% of SB prints by default, BUT since BM is always at lab and SB is always gmush farming, u will have equal amount being printed

[kind mulch]

check wiki

[bold quiver]

catching stuff

[lean thistle]

How?

[bold quiver]

people dont realize that but BM get 50% the sample size of SB, that is alctualy a lot (plus lab 2x, its 100%

[hidden sphinx]

Damn, I mean doesn’t count for me cause of doot and cause BM is printing skill-less I just mob sample

[lean thistle]

Do j need to kill 12m gmush on the majestro or can it be my es?

[bold quiver]

indeed but then its still 50%, thjats huge for anyone that hasnt maxed vials

[hidden sphinx]

Only hard thing about vman unlock is the mob kills I’m pretty sure

[bold quiver]

its a waste to leave BM printing monster mats D:

[sick sentinel]

mman

[lean thistle]

💀💀💀💀💀

[bold quiver]

?

[kind mulch]

whoops

missclick

[hidden sphinx]

Makes sense, I need to redo my prints anyway now that I got doot

[lean thistle]

Ty

[bold quiver]

yeah make sure to print catching stuff on BM until u finish those vials

[sick sentinel]

the first step is deathnote kills from anyone tho so it aint bad

[bold quiver]

its a waste keeping him on moster mats

[lean thistle]

Its easy since its just w1-3

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah, and switch vman to mob drop printing rather than minuscule fishing prints

[bold quiver]

huge dude

[hidden sphinx]

I also need to switch my bubo to log printing now that getting atoms is where I need to take my log printing

[noble mesa]

Print during a run after u kill a boss or 2 , and use the erea atack and theb 3d print

[hidden sphinx]

Is it in pins?

[noble mesa]

It will be big print

Dont know

Its from my brain

[hidden sphinx]

Big brain

[noble mesa]

[bold quiver]

i wonder if i can get 3 boss kills without nobisect on vman speedrun D: , my max score is 56

[hidden sphinx]

Yk I wonder how far I can speed run since I last did it a few weeks ago

[hollow wasp]

Do I understand it correctly? Whenever I click one of these. This are my chances to unlock a god. Right?

Or does it has to be 100% first?

[bold quiver]

i'd say extra 5 portals

[bold quiver]

odds to unlock god

[hollow wasp]

KK, Ty

[noble mesa]

But remamaber to save time to 3d print in the run , so u will not gonna get to your max portal

[bold quiver]

and make sure to use skill before printing............... ehe

[hidden sphinx]

Nah it’s the chance to unlock god, they cost the % of the 100% cost tho, like it’s not any cheaper to chose the 1% chance 100 times and get it on the 100th than it is to chose the 100%

[brittle dagger]

What 2nd god to use with ES when using Goat to train lab+divinity?

[hidden sphinx]

That’s fine, I’ll do the printing first cause I’m maxed all my account helpful vm talents until I start booking them

[bold quiver]

none

[fading cape]

My lab monkey ES is main on purrmep and secondary on goat.

[bold quiver]

cuz if u are already on GOAT u have to either be at lab physicaly or divinity physicaly to get divinity

[fathom lagoon]

The left side has 1, 5 & 10% options

Right side has 25, 50 & 100%

Anytime you roll a side, the other side has a chance to change the % roll option

General advice is to keep rolling the left hand side until you get the 100% option on the right and then save up for that

[bold quiver]

goat doesnt combo with bear

[noble mesa]

Good luck my man
Mey god doot be with u

[hollow wasp]

Thanks

[brittle dagger]

They will be sitting afk in lab

[hidden sphinx]

God doot is equipped so follows me around like a lost puppy

[bold quiver]

so IMO pick omniphau as second link

[hollow wasp]

Also I don't understand this. It said 2h but it's atleast 3h ago, does he idle back and fourth all the time now on its own? He gave me 2 chests tho

[noble mesa]

Very noice

[brittle dagger]

I dont have him just yet, does Smehebatu afk gains apply to lab/divinity?

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah goes back and forth until chest storage is filled up

[bold quiver]

Only for lab, nothing else boosts divinity (besides divinity stuff itself) ( but yeah , pick the snake then, good choce

[hollow wasp]

Thanks I see. I upgraded Speed of the boat with my first gold

[brittle dagger]

Okay thank you!

[fathom lagoon]

Guys I deserve some clown emojis. I bought green gems last night to try and roll for Doot

[hidden sphinx]

Speed means you can get to other islands (once they’re unlocked) within the min possible time to complete a journey

[noble mesa]

Noooooooo

[bold quiver]

no clown, its great to support the developer XD

[hidden sphinx]

I really hope you got him

[bold quiver]

better than giving money to billion dollar companies

[fathom lagoon]

No update to my name

[noble mesa]

I will give u 1 for free
I have 3

[fading cape]

My free roll today got me a bored bean. which I didn't have. So I'm happy

[fathom lagoon]

Good way to look at it I guess

[fathom lagoon]

That’s like giving away $300 for free brotha, put them Doots to good use!

[noble mesa]

Yep

Just i dont have..🥲

[bold quiver]

where is lava with a new update so i can decide to spend for doot or not!! i need to know if he is alive

[noble mesa]

He is alive just in his privet jet sens last update

[bold quiver]

ahahaha i found out that some private jets could cost 40M euros thats insane

i cant even count that long

[noble mesa]

He heve thet amaont

[noble mesa]

Loll

[narrow cloak]

you guys were right, i found the chances for getting certain % values in divinity, it's 3.5% for getting 100% and 17% for 50%, it costs 100 +-65 points to wait for 50 and always press it and 100+-60 points to wait for 100% and press it so waiting for 100 is best.

[fading cape]

That's just the buy. You then need to pay for housing, maintenance, air control, licensing, serialization, etc etc etc

[hidden sphinx]

Rip

[untold arch]

fuel costs

[crisp silo]

nah lava made enough

[bold quiver]

cant i just buy and leave it there? wash with some soap on the weekends, light some barbecue

party on a private jet without it flying!

[hidden sphinx]

Depends what country you’re in and if you have a friend with a private airfield

[bold quiver]

oh man it keeps getting worse. i wont buy a jet anymore!

i'd rather buy a boat, the ocean is free

[crisp silo]

ocean scary

[hidden sphinx]

You could go to paris for lunch in a private jet tho

So like up to you

Boat is cheaper baseline but has the same need for storage, cleaning, maintenance, fuel and certifications

[bold quiver]

ill just have a bike

[crisp silo]

still gotta pay for cleaning, maintenance, fuel

[bold quiver]

wtf is that bike running on

[crisp silo]

your calories

simple, just dont move

dont even breathe, we can save more money

[fading cape]

yea but boats are financial traps. Unless you're going to do insane maintenance after leaving it in your yard on a trailer, the dock fees are more than the boat

[bold quiver]

being rich seem tough!

being poor i only have to worry about buying food and paying living costs :[

[heavy moth]

anyone can review my IE https://pazuzeus.idleonefficiency.com

[gray thicket]

What do I do?

[acoustic karma]

does this talent work on second squire?

[acoustic karma]

do 25%

[gray thicket]

I got it!

[acoustic karma]

nice!

[fading cape]

I'm from a pretty rural area. Only poor people buy boats. Haha. Everyone I knew turned 25 and said, "I got a boat!!" took it out once, and a month later said, "Wanna buy a boat? Fresh paint!"

[tacit tulip]

That was poor advice but gz on being lucky :p

Skill buffing talents like that typically take the highest one of the two

[past bane]

I can scarcely think of a less correct statement than "being rich seems tough" LOL

[brittle dagger]

If I use goat+bear god, since my character is always active in lab, does this mean I can get divinity gains while not being on the altar? (even tho I wouldnt get lab exp?)

Or is it only if im physically in lab for goat god to work

[tacit tulip]

Nah, there's an exception put into place to stop that

[brittle dagger]

unlucky

If I have bubo in lab and my lowest level lab character has bear god linked, do they still recieve exp from the bubo lab talent? Or does bear prevent that?

[tacit tulip]

They'll get it yeah

[brittle dagger]

sweet

[tacit tulip]

The exception for exp there is youre in lab, but don't get the exp for it

If you manually put a bear character in lab they still get exp

[brittle dagger]

Thats what I was trying to figure out yea

thank goodness for that lol

appreciate the info

[tacit tulip]

There was early worries that linking lots to bear would make it a pain to level lab, as you'd need to unlink everyone

It was extensively tested cause of that

[young blade]

cauldron capacity increase sources?

i have to check too frequently

[fathom lagoon]

We got a saying down here in Florida

Know what’s better than owning a boat? Having a friend who owns a boat

[rigid cloak]

The lab one is all u really need

Once u get a bubo going

[quartz fiber]

The trick is to talk a lot about having a boat between your friends, and then if one gets a good amount of money, cling cling cling

[rigid cloak]

Subscribe the richest one to boating magazines

Get into their yt acc and autoplay boat content

U need adsense to be on ur side too

[fathom lagoon]

My fiancés dad owns a boat, best case scenario

[rigid cloak]

Its all midlife crisis ppl

Either a expensive car or boat

[fathom lagoon]

Facts, he never even takes it out lol

[rigid cloak]

Exactly

[fathom lagoon]

And he’s retired so no reason not to

[quartz fiber]

my lawyer friend gets dizzy in boats, i got unlucky

[rigid cloak]

All boat crisis ppl are like that

[tacit tulip]

My midlife purchase was just an expensive laptop

😄

[rigid cloak]

Ur probably like 20

[tacit tulip]

32

[fathom lagoon]

Oh wow nice, my ppls, I’m 30 this October lol

[rigid cloak]

U arent old enough to midlife crisis

[fathom lagoon]

Quarter life

[tacit tulip]

Pfft like I'll be alive at 60

[frail mauve]

Relatable

[tacit tulip]

We have 30 years of it getting hotter every summer to go 😄

[rigid cloak]

When u need to convince urself of needing x thing because ur bored and have shit loads of cash thats a midlife crisis

[fathom lagoon]

My dad and his motorcycle basically

[tacit tulip]

Tbf we're looking at buying a house rn. That much was a surprise for me

[fathom lagoon]

Ended up selling it less than 5 years later

[rigid cloak]

Classic midlife crisis

[fathom lagoon]

To the T

[low snow]

Well. I can understand the selling. Don't wanna become a meat crayon is a good motivation

[rigid cloak]

House isnt a midlife crisis

Thats just the typical grind

[fathom lagoon]

Goodluck and congrats, we just bought our first house too

My moms midlife was a cherry red 328i drop top. Now my brother drives it

[rigid cloak]

Lol

[tacit tulip]

My hopes are I won't have a proper one

[low snow]

1. Let parents have midlife crisis
2. ???
3. Cash in

[low snow]

Hoo buddy.

[fathom lagoon]

Just take the money and go see a therapist lol

[viral snow]

rather spend it on doot than therapy

[rigid cloak]

Doots cheaper than therapy btw

[fathom lagoon]

Doot = therapy tbh

[low snow]

Maybe when the time comes for you midlife lava comes back

[fathom lagoon]

Not if insurance covers it lol

[rigid cloak]

Doot is also far cheaper than most midlife crisises

Ur rates are still going up and still a deductable

[fathom lagoon]

I think it depends on the company you work for. All mental health is covered for us so it’s just a $20 copay every time

[viral snow]

or be like this guy
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/12/california-man-spent-1-million-playing-game-of-war/

[rigid cloak]

U not in america?

That sounds too functional

[fathom lagoon]

I am, In Florida

[rigid cloak]

Sheesh

[green eagle]

i'm liking doot for all the omni procs, but do you really no longer gain div exp? all the guys i had on the god who gives lab exp and div exp for being in lab now says 0 div exp upon logging in, and that's really annoying 💀

[rigid cloak]

I dont think bear gives exp

Unless u in lab

[green eagle]

bear doesn't give lab exp

[rigid cloak]

Goat doesnt proc

[fathom lagoon]

I work for a Fortune 500 company though so maybe it’s just better than normal benefits

[rigid cloak]

Bear doesnt count u in lab

[rigid cloak]

Thats probably it

[fathom lagoon]

With goat and your char in lab you get lab exp and div points but not div exp right?

[rigid cloak]

No u get both in lab

[fathom lagoon]

Oh sweet didn’t realize you get xp too

[rigid cloak]

Every one of my chars are currently pumping lab and divinity to hit 40

[green eagle]

that's who my current character is linked to, and upon logging in he got 0 div exp

[rigid cloak]

Are you afking in lab?

If u arent you arent connected to lab

[fathom lagoon]

Yeah I think you still need to be in the lab, even w doot

[rigid cloak]

It was like that for es too

I dunno why everyone thought bear which gives 0 lab exp counts as a lab connection

[green eagle]

yes i had him in the lab.. i've been here in w5 since release

this char is at 92 div atm

most of my perma lab/div slaves are at 115 atm

[rigid cloak]

U might be bugged out then

[green eagle]

have only ran into this issue since getting doot

[rigid cloak]

Because im getting exp just fine

I have it at 1bil

Just because i want the extra x10

I started at 100m to start atoms tho

[tacit tulip]

If it's a resource you can't get high, you don't want it to get juiced into atoms, as you can't replenish it easily

[low snow]

As soon as you have a 100m+ sample on logs etc 1bil is the best conversion point. You can go and work on vial mastery then

[tacit tulip]

So go 1b, and use oak/copper for your atoms

[graceful remnant]

What's the extra 10x benefit? Why is 1b resource better than 100m or 10m? Beyond the utility of having more stuff

[sick sentinel]

so you can use it for more things than just atoms. bubbles/vials/stamps

setting it lower limits what you can do

[graceful remnant]

Sure ty, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing some other passive benefit from fat stax

[sick sentinel]

ye rn there's just greenstacks rly, but eventually you want to max vials which cap at 1b for the last lvl

and stamps cost skyrockets

[hidden sphinx]

You do

[hidden sphinx]

Also having 10 stacks oft 1B oak and copper helps with mining and catching sampling

[sick sentinel]

oh yeah that too

[graceful remnant]

Yeah I suppose I should care about that but haven't bothered yet. Don't have vial mastery and don't care for the diminished returns yet. Yeah good point about the pow10 skills too. Ive been focused on some of the early gains from atoms at this stage

[hidden sphinx]

You do need to make sure you have the space in your storage for it tho

Honestly I wouldn’t go for atoms that intensely until you’re getting half an atom per char print an hour

Get the first 1 or 2 pow10 atom upgrades and a few stamp upgrades but besides that you’ll have to save up atoms for a while to get much use from them imo

[vernal wolf]

!w5

[graceful remnant]

Yeah I'll have the cooking speed atom buff soon which is meh but something, then I can make the piles bigger

Thanks for the feedback & advice buds 🐷

[hidden sphinx]

I have a few lvl 30 plates and the first level of the cooking buff doesn’t feel that helpful ngl

[graceful remnant]

Yeah it seems like almost nothing, but my plates are getting to 30+ so might as well nab it. Then I can justify not focusing on atoms for awhile

[burnt panther]

Curious of people's refinery cycle time? Mine's 1m8s for combustion atm.

[hidden sphinx]

I’m getting 36% from first upgrade that means 36 total levels above void

[graceful remnant]

I'm like 2m20s for combustion. Haven't really felt the need to do much for cycle time. But twice as fast is twice as much eh

[hidden sphinx]

6m9s 😦

Pretty sure I’m missing some easy upgrades, my stamp I’m upgrading when I have the money, lvl37 atm

[inland gyro]

im guessing the biggest buff there is construction mastery from rift?

[hidden sphinx]

Probs

I don’t have the mastery yet

[graceful remnant]

I do not have that either

[inland gyro]

and your at 2 min? what else am i missing

[hidden sphinx]

Swear the only other two upgrades are the stamp and the vial right?

[graceful remnant]

Maybe my math is all wrong lemme look >.>

[inland gyro]

salt lick orange salts and DK family buff

[hidden sphinx]

So either you got really good money farm or you been spending a lot of red salt

[hidden sphinx]

Ah forgot about salt lick cause I finished that a while ago, and forgot the dk buff cause I’ve been active on es for the past 2 weeks

[hidden sphinx]

IE still calculates it accurately

[graceful remnant]

...idk what that is 😇

[hidden sphinx]

Idleon efficiency

[graceful remnant]

Yeah 2m 20s for combust

[prisma drift]

Shiny pets have refinery speed

[hidden sphinx]

Oh yes forgot about them too

[prisma drift]

It’s small but it’s there lol

[hidden sphinx]

Are they additive or multiplicative?

[prisma drift]

I couldn’t say because I didn’t check before hand

[hidden sphinx]

Fair enough

[prisma drift]

Im also not smart enough to calculate a single source like that to tell

[hidden sphinx]

I’m sure it’s additive, multiplicative would probs be too big of a bonus for lava to want it in the game (for free that is)

[dry sparrow]

How do I unlock critter blobfish?

[graceful remnant]

My stamp is at lvl 5 lol, vial at 5....why I'm faster then? Salt lick maxed

[hidden sphinx]

There’s a quest in w4

[hidden sphinx]

What lvl is your dk?

[graceful remnant]

I think it's a quest from the npc in that room, which requires prior critters

[inland gyro]

construction mastery and shiny pets are the only ones i know im missing and im much slower then you guys

[graceful remnant]

DK is 339, which is 32% family bonus to refine speed. I don't do shiny pets for refine

[dry sparrow]

Now that im getting traps automatically every 24h whats the best trap setup to use?

To get lots of critters

[graceful remnant]

Royal traps give a lot, and you can set royal for everyone from 1 character who has them

Idk what's optimal but that one stikes a good balance for me

[deep lodge]

Just choose the best 20h trap that gives most critters, place with your BM

[dry sparrow]

My best trap is Meaty trap atm

[velvet mural]

This is more of an all world question but what characters do you guys use to push 1 bill death note?

[dry sparrow]

I was using wooden 5 days 200x qty

[pulsar heart]

ive gotten more slush obols than slush skulls 😢

[graceful remnant]

Y'all have the lab bonus for 3x refine cycles right?

Then I assume that one gets cranked by full lab too

[vagrant thicket]

Around how much time will it take in breeding from round 1 to 200

[hidden sphinx]

I’m not sure how you’re 3x fast than me then, I’m missing something but I can’t think of what

Maybe I fucked up my lab,

[dry sparrow]

maybe meaty trap 30h (40x qty 40x xp)?

[graceful remnant]

I'm always afraid of someone disconnecting in lab without noticing @_@ sometimes I feel like they jiggle a pixel off

[vagrant thicket]

Once I got it I only use this one

[vagrant thicket]

Hmmm

[low snow]

30h is kinda mediocre. You miss the proc by 6 hours

Im in the camp of 20 or 40

[vagrant thicket]

Miss the what?

[low snow]

The collection of the traps

[graceful remnant]

Sigil bonus + sigil buffs from sailing artifacts too. My sigil for refine is unlocked but not gold

[dry sparrow]

But theres not many 20h options for me atm

Unless I use wooden crate

I mean cardboard

[low snow]

A 30h trap is collected the same amount of times as a 40h

20 is good for exp. 40 for shiny and amount

[vagrant thicket]

Coughing

[deep lodge]

It depends on a few factors. I'm doing royal 10h since I can check in twice a day. Basically, you want to divive qty multiplier by number of hours it takes for a full trap cycle (with 30h, it's gonna be 48h if you only let the rift upgrade collect your traps). At 40x That's 0.83x/h. Just gotta do the math for all traps pretty much, and choose highest number. For reference, cardboard box 20h at x20 qty would mean 0.83x/h, which would be the same as the 30h.

[low snow]

If you check obv all this gets shifted

[dry sparrow]

Maybe this one then?

[graceful remnant]

I used silk boxes 20hr until I got royal, cause I was more limited by shiny than lvl or normies in any of my needs 🤷‍♂️

[dry sparrow]

Ops this feels better

[vagrant thicket]

Coughing intensifies

[deep lodge]

Honestly, just push for royal 40h, that's probably your best bet

[dry sparrow]

Atm I need more critters then shinies but that one feels good

[low snow]

Is kinda sad that you'll most likely miss the shiny chance from hunter since logging in first daily is best done in squire

[graceful remnant]

Breeding level feels like the slowest and most frustrating thing to me ATM which I have the least control over. Takes forever

[dry sparrow]

I havent unlocked blobfish yet, thats why I dont have royal

[deep lodge]

Then work on it asap, it's also the best xp source for your vman -> better trap and souls talent

[low snow]

Depends on your build my cough syrup requiring friend. If you have the meta 6 setup that isnt using mono its an hour max

[dry sparrow]

I though I had to complete the hunter questline to get it, just delivered 70k honkers for nothing

[vagrant thicket]

Dieing from coughing

[hidden sphinx]

My lab isn’t active

[graceful remnant]

Rip, comrade

[hidden sphinx]

Apparently doot isn’t activating best god

Wtf

Bear*

[vagrant thicket]

Dies from coughing

[hidden sphinx]

A while

[rigid cloak]

Doot works on bear

I have doot and it works

[vagrant thicket]

Gets resurrected

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah but I only have two chars active in lab and only 1 node and 1 gem that’s working

[vagrant thicket]

What do you mean

[rigid cloak]

Did u just get doot?

[green eagle]

btw i figured it out, the character i was on had the wrong stance/style on

[hidden sphinx]

You talking about breeding lvl? I’m lvl 64 and I’ve been in w4 for since October last year

[dry sparrow]

Ill work on it now, probably that 20h trap that gives shinies will help me with those 200 shiny scorps and stuff to unlock blobfish

[rigid cloak]

Nice

[deep lodge]

Do you use the shiny prayer?

[hidden sphinx]

Nah got it the day of the update

It was working before that point

Oh Ik the issue

[green eagle]

purely depends on your computer and what arena layout you have going on

it took mine ~35 minutes to get to round 200, but my work laptop took 1.5 hours to get to round 170 due to the lag

[hidden sphinx]

Lab is working properly, im out so can’t check my pc so im using IE which hasn’t been updated for the pet update

[deep lodge]

Arena layout? You mean team comp, or am I not aware of something?

[dry sparrow]

I havent unlocked it yet

[hidden sphinx]

So IE isn’t correct

[green eagle]

yes, whatever team comp you are using in your arena layout

[deep lodge]

It won't be updated for pet update anytime soon (until lava statement at least), Idleon Toolbox is up to date tho

[rigid cloak]

Yeah ie has been fucked

[deep lodge]

Don't remember how hard it is to get, but it's really great to get shinies. It's not really hard to push 100% shiny chance even with it, especially if you don't level it up

[dry sparrow]

I might beat goblin wave 81 to get it, is a good prayer?

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah I shouldn’t have been trusting it, i knew it wasn’t working with my cooking speed which isn’t even related to any of the companion updates :/

[deep lodge]

You tell me

[dry sparrow]

[green eagle]

assume you got all those while going for penguins for salt lick lol

[hidden sphinx]

There we go. The accurate refinery cycles

[deep lodge]

Not even close to being done too

[hidden sphinx]

Ignore red salt on 10% my green was level 8 for ages

[green eagle]

ye it's a huuuuuge grind

[dreamy merlin]

what should my es farm/do while im gone for 4 days

[hidden sphinx]

Rare mob mats

Either hampters or glass shards

[deep lodge]

4 days active without checking computer?

[green eagle]

i'm temporarily paused with it, only level 135/250 atm

[dry sparrow]

Can I use the trapper drone on my BM to work on traps? or it has to be on his skill?

[green eagle]

wanted other critters again lol

[dreamy merlin]

Yea im going somewhere for a tournament

[dreamy merlin]

why glass shards and i cant do hampters yet

[deep lodge]

Probably hampters yeah, but make sure to filter out basically everything so you don't come back to a lag fest with 99% desync time

[hidden sphinx]

Glass shards are used to upgrade the carry capacity stamp

[green eagle]

well unless you have the largest bag space possible, i suggest filtering stilt poles/clam shells and farming hampters/pearlers

[hidden sphinx]

Batteries could be useful but you only need 2000 of them for 10 w4 splicers

[green eagle]

otherwise glass shards are always in style

[hidden sphinx]

So don’t need to farm them for 4 days

[deep lodge]

Aint nobody got time for that, 200 is enough lol

[hidden sphinx]

Oh yeah pearlers is good for the stat vial

[hidden sphinx]

Nah bro you gotta get that stat stick

[green eagle]

stats

[dreamy merlin]

i am far earlier in the game then you guys think i am

[deep lodge]

I'm not in Warframe, there are so many better ways to spend my time haha

[graceful remnant]

I just spent awhile with everyone on hampters to get dem big bags

[green eagle]

you asked a question in #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 👀

[deep lodge]

Max damage / Drop rate on ES?

[dreamy merlin]

25m and 3.6

[hidden sphinx]

It’s why you should get dreadlo tools for fishing and catching on everyone and poop for mining and chopping

[deep lodge]

Ah yeah, I see. Hampter might not be a good advice then

[hidden sphinx]

Farm with DK then

Just statue farm

3.6 dr isn’t worth rare drop farming

Or money and alch farm on bubo

[deep lodge]

I doubt they have a good bubo setup at this level

[hidden sphinx]

The early w4 bubo setup is still good enough money farm

[green eagle]

yep, i have all dreadlo tools, but only up to w3 splicer on all but my SB who has w4 one

[hidden sphinx]

For where they’re at

[hidden sphinx]

SB is the only one you’d need it for but completionism

Max every tool/gear upgrade

[dry sparrow]

Can I use the drone to setup my traps with BM or it has to be on eagle eye?

[hidden sphinx]

Drone

[deep lodge]

Honestly, given the DR it might be a good idea to park ES at gigafrogs with everything but pop obol filtered out to get personal and family pop obols setup

[green eagle]

sounds like you'd be better off farming glass shards if you're dead seat on farming with ES. you're probably better off farming statues at beans/bloodbones on DK though. just filter things you don't want, and filter obols cuz otherwise you'll have LAGGGGG too

[hidden sphinx]

3.6 dr is too high dr for obol farming for 4 days

[green eagle]

not for 4 days imo, he'll fill up on bronze pops by day 2/3 probably and desync

[hidden sphinx]

They’d run out of obol space within the day

[green eagle]

yes, well said. my completionism will get there eventually

[hidden sphinx]

Even if they filter out pop obols they’ll fill up on crystal obol drops by that point

[deep lodge]

Filter them out too

[hidden sphinx]

Obol farm by filtering out all obols

If that gave you obol frags that would be insane

[green eagle]

obol farming is only really good if you are able to check it

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah, obols fill up super quick

[green eagle]

he's best farming on DK for statues and filtering out obols and drops he doesn't want

[dreamy merlin]

I could do dk but i dont have chip and crystal chance is shit so i wont get much

[green eagle]

[hidden sphinx]

If you’re gunna obol farm for a few days no checking do w2 sand pots, filter out all obols but gold luck and square dr

[dreamy merlin]

1/600 crystal chance

[deep lodge]

Is Steam Remote Play possible when not on the same network, but over the internet? That'd be a great solution to most problems

[hidden sphinx]

Holy fuck

No wonder you said ES active

[dreamy merlin]

yea

dont even have crescent shrine

[green eagle]

this is best if you don't have choco then. take this advice. you'll get glass shards to upgrade bag space, obols that give you a good amount of frags eventually

[hidden sphinx]

Pretty sure it is it’s laggy af tho, especially for a game like this

[green eagle]

and they don't drop enough to totally lag you out i believe at that DR

[deep lodge]

Just need to be able to press telekinetic storage tho, I can do that at 1 FPS when I come back to a night of desync with full inventory

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah 5 dr farming dr obols and I wouldn’t fill up within 4 days I don’t think

Especially not with crystal chance that bad

[deep lodge]

Yeah, that's probably the best choice

[dreamy merlin]

so sandy pot with dk or es?

[deep lodge]

I'd say DK, those dice obols are more important for your account progress than the glass shards

[hidden sphinx]

True but there’s no point obol farming unless you can actively check on them and frag the ones you don’t want

[frigid acorn]

statue DK , drops ES

[hidden sphinx]

You need to dr obols for sure

[deep lodge]

Do you have some DR chips to get you up to 5 DR?

[undone steeple]

Should I stop picking my plants and let them evolve to progress the log book?
I have the bit by bit bubble

[hidden sphinx]

Id suggest DK, you’ll get statues, obols and some glass shards and atm statues and obols will provide the bigger account bonus

[green eagle]

let me get you the link

[hidden sphinx]

If you’re gunna get the 5th stage on all of them then turn on cat

[undone steeple]

good call

[deep lodge]

Meh, at best you could spend some time with Kitsune to get T5, but no more. Probably wasted time

[green eagle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t7tj1KOwpVAAWgiucgs8oJ2B3iqp0KHT/edit#gid=1742532979

go to the tab for tier 5 and you can look at tier 6 as well if you want

[left locust]

how do i farm resource cards effectively? i aint doing 1 in 13 hrs

[green eagle]

put in your info like it tells you

[crude oxide]

Is that pinned anywhere?

[deep lodge]

This link always makes me sad

[undone steeple]

is this with kitsune active

[green eagle]

and then it will tell you ~ how much time it will take to get to that tier with your current levels

[deep lodge]

Drop rate, card drop chance, ES active / high fight afk %,

[deep lodge]

Just input your minutes as they are shown with kitsune

[left locust]

i mean like chopping for example

[hidden sphinx]

I have 18.5% chance of evolve and 11 min sprout timer (with cat) it took me about 4 hours to get 5th evo on the bit tree thing with a full garden of them

I can’t remember if that was an ingame 4 hours or only real time 4 hours plus omniphau bonuses

[dreamy merlin]

I might be able to get 1

[crude oxide]

Oh damn, I shouldn't have looked at the t7 tab

[undone steeple]

ah ok i didnt know it would update that number

[green eagle]

it doesn't matter if you have kitsune on or not for it. it asks for your time and levels

this is what my current chance for a tier 6 is

if you are going for plant evos you ALWAYS have kitsune on

there is no reason not to

[deep lodge]

Pretty much same, but full AFK. Use Vman with max card talents, give him one of each boost food, maximum AFK%, (maximum DR?), and check on him every 24h to use printer talent

[green eagle]

i have one tier 6 and i'm not trying for more as i just plan to continuously upgrade

[solid python]

what's the prio for w5 merit

[green eagle]

you still have a chance to roll lucky and get one

[deep lodge]

Loot pile capacity > Respawn/stat overload

[tacit tulip]

Respawn is ace as with every world. Loot pile is 10/10 purchase, atoms are good if you're doing atoms, otherwise the exp stuff

The tab 4 talents and star talent are both fairly trash