#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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and daily reset had happened
and i didnt know
and i killed like 5 at once so all the crystals spawned
lol
and then the giant randomly too
💀
so now im just gonna have to cry
if dying to crystals, its a sign that you should boost your def (fmj) a bit soon anyway
well that character isnt really equipped for w5 yet
17.5k/h 100% survivability afk tho
so i was just getting that third area done real quick
cuz i wanted the board
so i can see what i need to do ahead of time
And barb usually have better things to do at home than to push through w5
it was just gonna be for like an hour max
then back to zowing
all my other characters in lab/divinity atm
hes already setup for zowing so i took him to afk for an hour
like ladle making would boost lot of your stuff while people lab
his cooking is slow still
i havent fixed it up yet
he needs zow/chow atm
15 zow 1 chow
finaly
the blessing, or the minor link?
snake blessing is okay considering its like lv5 of 5 skill eff shiny pets
its not the same XD
they are on dif multipliers
How much does this go up by
5%
Is it worth?
it's 20% reduction total, so definitely if you're using atoms
That talent pt one = rip xD
I have the collider but I haven't used it yet
probably prioritize other stuff then
🥲let's just say I read that those stats don't multiply after I did that
sailing is life
Sailing shoulda been before stats or talents o.o
Prolly😭 but im at 12 loot pile and all ships
Wym
neverending chests bad
How so
Because you sacrifice 1 loot pile with it AND your 20 ships won't stay at dock with an extra chest
mmm if you don't skill it, then when you're at max capacity, you get [shipnumber] extra chests to loot
Without talent, once your pile is full all boats go out one more time and return with an extra chest past loot pile and remain at the dock
Never ending chest is basically -X% chests for +X sail exp
I didnt know they all return with an extra
its actually a sail exp talent despite what it may appear to say
Oh... well... guess I learned something tonight...
so if you have 10 ships and 20 chests, you'll be able to loot 30 chests
You can't turn it off tho right?
you gotta respec out of it
respec
Should I? Or should I leave it?
respec unless you're afking >24 hours at a time
If you need the artifacts, then remove it
if lazy, its not that bad to use it
Just dont expect to use it to improve chest chances
but then....wouldn't you be losing on upgraded chests and more rewards? Also.... Is rarity selection worth it?
upgraded chests 
not really, [ship amount] more chests is generally more worth it
😭are upgraded chests not worth it?
only if afking for days or more
quantity > quality
The chest upgrading part is almost negligible for the amount of wood chests it costs
Do yall have all the chests
Just got a 5h proc from hampters or bubble, now im at 50 chests instead of 29 chests
It is an okay talent to maximize the sail exp tho if used for that purpose
Might be good early on for tusk that increases arti find chance based on sailing lvl
since you fill ur cap anyways, or idk when the xp would really hit good
I just like artifacts xD
Or end game when you done with eldritchs
Being done with eldritchs.. gonna take at least a day or two
With doot i got tons of eldritch this week
Mhm, i was already equipped with omni and sail alch bubble on all xD
Im only left with giant eye and the extra po box thing to eldritch
I feel like they are proccing a lot more though
Feels like i get 2x procs each login
The sheepie big bubble is nice synergy
My artis are going pretty good:
https://i.imgur.com/LoJPSIq.png
Allows wars to get 100% sail proc, and noticeable boosts on others along with occasional gaming proc
wars?
Warriors
what are you supposed to focus on early in sailing? just farming boat levels?
Pre sheepie, warriors were like 80-90% chance
With sheepie, its a solid 100%
Early is like getting more ships and sailors
figured
And like have one guy always open new islands
getting a captain with speed+cloud unlock can be nice early on
More able hands is like the important start
I have speed and cloud on diff caps
Same cap for the purpose of unlocking new islands.
But else, speed and/or loot value is the other captains u want
should/can I use pearls to get to 15 for another cap recruit?
cant balloon/pearl w4-5 except cooking (and lab*)
pearls don't work, and you have to wait until tomorrow even if you did get to 15
I pearled lab on my maestro thinking right hand would work
tomorrow being "your next daily reset"
u can pearl lab?
oh wow, always thought u cant. what about baloon?
nope
cook and lab allows exp items like balloon
I tried balloon on lab but had to use pearls
wish breeding would work xD
Originally on w5 release you could even candy, but lava took that away when he noticed the exploit of goat god
people were able to speed divinity by using candy on goat god
ballon doesnt work at lab, tested.
pearl also works for cons but not balloons or candy
Too bad cooking ladles were hit by collateral damage of no candy for goat lab
imagine newbies getting doot, with bird god and having thousands of red pearls before hitting w4-5 xD
I guess since lab and const exp is not technically “skill exp”
doot doesn't work until you sit on the altar
Ah okay, people on d1 claimed/acted like it did 🤷
btw I found out why one of my DKs was getting 2x my other ones div exp
when w6 arrives, div exp will probably wont allow balloons since that too isnt skill exp
he was getting invisible talents from my shaman
invisible talents?
Like some glitchy thing when logging in
does this mean actually 1, 7, 10, or does it mean I, VII, X (ignoring the big bubbles)?
Old time when bubbles used roman numerals
Just got eldrich rift unlock. would it be a horrible idea to just send all my ships over to farm fury?
1, 7, 10. else it wouldnt affect your cost reduction
kk
thats why once u get bubble 15 you need to use proper class to level bubbles, like orange bubbles from a warri
Not sure how the math/scaling works with bubble 17 that affects bubble 15 along with bubble 2 affecting both 15 and 17. either way, its nice
ngl I just kind of nobrained all my bubbles up without thinking if it worked 😂
hmmmm, it should work to get your costs to like 60m with warrior, then switch to something random to atom it since it'll cost like 100m?
also turning off the vial lab helps to adjust cost to atom
yes, some things are better to atom from another class
also its more like 10-20m from warri and 100m from another class 
Ffs i hate obols..
Saved up 1.4k fragments. went for Dementia (14% chance at 32 cost) spent 1.2k of my fragments
I don't even want to math how many fails that was, but it's too many
@dapper prism could you please update your IE profile? It's been almost 2 weeks
I've been looking for someone to compare for ages and you were as far into the game as I was
Most others I looked up quit with the update
You got doot?
Yeah. That's another point to look for now, no sense in comparing a doot with a dootless 🥲
Yup, my IE was at my 3 month milestone (3/11 to 6/11). Shows progress without doot. Nowdays everything and anything will just be blamed on "you have doot" kinda thing
I don't mind chatting in DM and showing progress and comparing there if you want. But i do have doot
It's happening!!
Omfg Gratz!!
Mind sharing your Gaming multiplier? and show that nugget+snail lvl?
are you f*cking kidding me?
Is terror worm beat for xp ? In the afk menu it shows it’s less
Same happen as me but i got worse, bloque
And why farm terror worms btw
That means your damage is not up for it
I got 3 rams
Well at least it’s useful
I Hit multikill
How to check leaderboard on ie?
4 billion dmg
active please
Want to see top players
Yah just double checking it’s nest active there for xp
Um does your percentage just reset at divinity?
you can't compare exp between active and afk
those are different
Ok so that means it is best for active xp on sb es and bubbo
when you active, you got way more exp than afk, maybe x10 x20 or more
theres a lot that affects your kph and xp when offline. have you tried using movement speed pots?
actually bubo and Dk are best
Even with regular classes?
lol, can easily be around 100 to 1k times more 
No never
But idc about afk xp
My Bubo went from level 300 to 352 in 4h 8mins online. If afk it would be 35days and some hours
Because active is much better
yes? but classes with respawn mobs are too much better
yes, because you cant get crystals from afk, and they give most the xp, crystals with choco and active xp cards will do wonders
Yes, for big maps it can make a huge difference
Nvm i see the bar movie much better om the last map compared to the one before it
Ok different subject how many time should cranuim cooking happen per day
I Hit around 2000000 seconds so u guys guess my cooldown
I assume you mean 200k not 2m ?
I was getting 300k's+ every 16min 45s
Was a nice way to get all my water rates to level 100:
https://i.imgur.com/8FT6RvZ.png
My CC was never high but i was getting 180k every 30 min
Yeh, depends on if you have PO boxes and the level on roadkill. Big factor will also be ability order and using fists etc.
Yeah mine was just a low bubble level, had only just started working on it.
But none of it matters really now 
Think my buble was only like 120 or something
is something wrong with the pet companion? im trying to get my weekly free one and its not working
Click Buy
Snail lvl 3, nugget is 37k
man ive been stuck at 12k for months
Last time I checked my multiplier it was like 800t
I'm still waiting on CHem
Chem is crucial
maybe one day. i havent even seen something get close to 12k
is there a trick? do i just leave it for a week
Pure rng.
Try every hour for the most chances but still all luck
Sacrifice your first newborn for a good nugget (not clickbait)
ah good ol rng never fails
kinda like getting 2 bloach ice creams as free pets. feels reeeal good
i need to hug you, oh god i didnt know this was a thing
how does the king doot pet work? for divinity?
Must be in lab to get xp and points
who do you guys use for farming mob cards?
I use my ES with card doublers
aight cool. thanks!
card doublers?
snapshot cdr when entering zone and active ES gets cards real fast
from lab
ah
sheepie + level up gift on all 
Haha you're welcome 😄
I honestly also only realized it really late xD
ES = Mobs that come from the portal have huge DR. So great for rares and cards
DK = Mobs that are on the map, great for crystals, minibosses and stuff like that.
Maestro+ = Only one with actual DR benefits for bosses, so bosses.
I realized as I got later in the game that I could use the wrong color matched character to push the resources past 100M for Collider discount
Yup, works great too.
ive actually been getting mad, not understanding why my orange and green bubbles seemed so much more behind, because i was always checking Alch on my Bubo

turning your 3 into an 8 
https://i.imgur.com/rhG4OXd.png
that could hit the spot, i need 160 more hampters to finish up my bags.
I did have the mob drop filtered a lot of the time though
imma do that, im close to unlocking ruby cards so im getting ready
Ruby cards, thats a rough one to farm xD
lmao yeah, im trying to get god rank 1 then dispose those slab sitters to farm cards
mhm, why r1 really?
does the dmg scale good? (based on the text it sounds so little)
coz some peeps are already sitted and getting div pts, so just get one and im done for god rank.
Just remember that afk(offline) ES etc won't be netting as much cards at all since stuff like wormhole/dk orb don't work when offline
if plunder had a chance to apply to giants, sb would have had the chance of “gamble with giants at start of the week”. Too bad he doesnt
Yup, obviously xD
Sand is life
im there too
Looks like you are on your way to a sand paper factory.
Thanks 
gotta vman void ur samples 👀
https://i.imgur.com/qJoxRAs.png
thats my bs
Slabbing the treasure hunt items and found treasure hunt 3 can only be completed with an archer! My vman is missing out on that quest chungus boost 😦
it counts for all players i think
Vman looks at “completed quests” and TH is account wide progress
Quest Chungus is account wide?!?!?
No the TH quest specifically is account wide
So quests that only appear once, like the task board quests, are account wide
Quests that appear for everybody, like... bandit bob quests. are not account wide
I see
can this display any higher?
No
ty
What is required for Vman
1m kills on dn w1-w3
lvl 150, 1m deathnote from w1 to w3, 12m gmush (on quest start)
And then 12m kills on gmush with mman
you have to 12m gmush on the quest accept but you can use candy
After the quest starts yeah
1m part can be done by any one
I would suggest doing it with your bb since you'd want to get 1m kills on him anyways for the chows..
better yet, 100m for superchows 
meows is far away from him for now lol
will get there eventually, but man thats tough on candy reserves
ive done up to w4 already, just for bb to sit in divinity and get points 
lol
I'm done with w1-w4 chows and he's now sitting in the kitchen being the good cook that he is lmao
he be zoomin after you max vman cooking talent
ik
I just got fury not too long ago and it's already starting to go brrrr
not the best but starting to climb slowly
i wish i kept farming ladles, im too busy getting godrank 1 and not to give a damn anymore lol
lol
I'm waiting to summon purrmap now on a 100%...
still about 100k behind on that
holy i got a free rift slug
now I can farm meows but that's gonna take too long with his poor poor dmg lol
wait does the +25 talent lvl apply to all talents automaticly or to books?
Immediately
cause it aint applying to my Vman stuff
Vman stuff isn't impacted
mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Isn't impacted by stuff like Arctis either
maaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Does nobi affect gene gain?
it should, havent tested yet
hey guys should I throw away every armor except for w5?
I'm trying to free up some space
you could but I wouldn't do that if those are easy to obtain stones...
at the endgame you'd want as many resources to greenstack as you can for more dmg from the lab..
youre not in the right mind if you really want to greenstack those poopstones, but if you really want you can do it
thats insanely hard to do whatever poopstone it may be
should I just toss them?
i tossed mine, for storage
im at 121 greenstacks and can push more with w5 mats/foods.
that's just my opinion
you can absolutely do that, its just gonna take way too long. like way way too long.
i honestly tried storing those stones but i cant affort to greenstack them. could take me years
Same boat
Is there much benefit to active farming in lower worlds with my afk kills/hr being in the tens of thousands?
I usually just keep the C one. But that's traume for needing it to craft something and not haaving at the time >.<
deathnote points, more multikill for that world
is the B one useless?
i think its just defense boost
yeah B is basically bummer
i do store some of them to, just not really able to stack em up huge
maybe i should trash some 
its used at something i forgot
its used for a defense ring
ah yes that one. the rest dump em
for efaunt set
ahhh
that too. but only needing 1 for slab
I wouldn't worry about that too much though
dr helm still bis in some situation
I haven't made it yet tbh
i dont use dr helm, im doing my life wrong
royal turban and efaunt helm both still have uses which is amazing for a w2 gear
youll be just crafting 1 then forget it 
should I focus this?
true lol
good idea to give efaunt helm to your DK, ES and vman that does active/boss
youll eventually stop here, its increase is so low at this point
well, that depends on the activity on them...
nooo i dont wanna grind doot just yet 
than don't do that yet..
save up more
yea i only got like 7 of the eye components, so low
why do you do it once a month?
I buy the ingredients every day and make the recipe daily
I just summon them once a month to get the loot
ahhh got it
Mhm, minibosses starting to look good with loot (13.83x dr + stacking orb)
https://i.imgur.com/g7lomnY.png
honestly it’s increase is low since 15% haha…
it is, but somehow youll stop getting upgrades on that and focus on other stuff.
Mine is getting close, was also going for 20% xD
https://i.imgur.com/2peWU4k.png
But barely worth it
keep this one about 20x behind the others as it offer little progress but when it is cheap then it is worth it. and then the timer and points one should keep the points one about 3x-5x or so ahead of the timer one
but yeah progress will be much slower if you keep it head to head with the other 2
What to change
A N or?
any in purple
Yay another one down
https://i.imgur.com/Qve1aeJ.png
I cant even get the 4th normal artifact 
have you got the tusk looking one?
No
oh 
I got cube, cat and moai but not tusk
tusk is bonus arti chance, thats a hard one
tusk increases arti chance, so a good one to focus on getting early on
get the same arti a second time
I assume it is far more rare
yeah ancient ones have lower chance
Hopefully I get tusk tomorrow
You should try get tusk?
you actually need to get tusk first. or its preferable
it helps with your arti chance
What is the absolute max talent book level you can get, with rift bonuses and eldritch?
if not considering pets, 245.
it says there is a bonus in the construction mastery at rift 41 of +100 max talent library
it only increases refresh speed per upgrade
I think most of us initially saw that and thought the same. Sweet! Then, oh 🤣
what map if i want to farm for bubo? my fog dmg is only 2-4m
are you on w4?
The wording isn't poor, sources of talents are just "talents". Talent Library is the name of the building
yeah
ok tnx
Why is my IE worship stuff so off with ingame?
https://i.imgur.com/XI36pqF.png
How do i unlock the ability to buy more than 5 boats?
scroll to the right
Ahh that bar is a little hidden on the phone🤣🤣🤣
Omni pros - is the real time of procs given always accurate to the afk time, or is it actually rounded like the popup text suggests?
everything is listed in hours, but minutes are taken into account. Not sure how the displayed rounding works
Oh boo, so I can't get a cheeky hour sailing proc from 2 minutes of afk
It's definitely not a full hour for 2 minutes, but it might be a bit more than 2 minutes also.
I'm real bored of not getting chemical
I'm at a point where I'm easily getting 10T+ green bits, yet no chemical plant...
Like, you didn't unlock it yet? Or it's just not spawning?
Haven't unlocked it
Wtf
Same man. I feel like my 11k gold nugget is holding me back quite a bit now too.
am, is this some more?
Are you clicking reasearch as often as possible?
Every harvest yes
Holy shit that's some giga bad luck then
I swear I'm gonna get to red bits before that fucking plant appears
you've unlocked every plants before green bits...
I was in green bits before I got evergreen too
And here I stand with my mils green bits and no evergreen
???
atleast ya got a 85k gold nugget, thats quite lucky isnt it
Do you guys check in on your garden once everyday or something?
Same
Is there list of kills required per portal somewhere?
So i can see if i have the budget to push to w5 rn
wiki has it? i guess
Don't think so
there is.
Ah, my bad
do a search under the wiki
i didnt know it has one lmao
Sock portal is 10m kills if that helps
i think he meant for w4?
greenstack it 😂
Thanks
So what's the first thing I should spend my precious few nullo salt on? I'm assuming 1 of each Diabolic weapon, then tab5/troll armor
atom collider
Can you show your carpenter bubble and DK level?
I just spent 71k atoms and lost 1b damage 
So I should permanently use a slot for atom collider and keep upgrading it as often as possible?
No it's gonna be way to slow, just upgrade it once at the beginning
No, just unlock it
You'll know when you're ready to push it further
If you're barely making nullo the building upgrade is not at all worth it, just unlocking it is enough
carpenter 555
Ok, I already have it unlocked, so was wondering what my next thing to use nullo salt on was going to be
should I try to unlock atom asap
lvl 1100 wtf. Is that from exploiting back in the day?
No that's from high level Bob bubble
But i'm having trouble understanding how it can scale so much, is there a scaling that's not linear in there?
My carpenter bubble is 99
Gained a lot of lvls since lvling bob. In ~two weeks from 210ish to almost 400.
Pancake is 1 of the few stayovers from the endgame exodus, his entire account is jacked
He didnt answer tho
Yeah but that was discussed many times in the past
which skill scales off of having normal logs?
ahh ty ty
and chopping scales off of w1 leaves
Ok I just bought a few yang cogs, that's the secret. I just x6 my build rate with 4 yang cogs
It's a pretty nice feeling to be getting around 1.3m resource per portal, those w1 vials gonna be easy
no exploits
i didn't even get directionals while that thing was available (and everyone who did it quit/got lazy so they're noob now)
Pancake's account is the sort of account that gen chat would start witch hunts against claiming there's no way to get there legitimately 😂
cool
https://i.gyazo.com/c767dccbe8e79c9b71b13a7597bc5d06.png
can i make 10 stored max stacks to boost this skill?
yeah but catching, lol
Yeah
When it comes to sailing, can i get ancient relics before i've obtained all the relics?
Then is it worth focusing on certain islands first before moving on?
not really needed ...you will return to earlier islands anyway to enhance earlier boats after a while
I just unlocked w5, what are offerings at divinity?
hey guys any updates?
almost there pog
well actually closer than you think, but thats not cool
If i accidently sell something to shop is there a way to get it back?
dont think so
What did you sell
yeah true
guys i dreamt lava put out a new patch pretending nothing happened and everyone forgot
And that’s exactly what will happen
Thats what he did with auto loot browser ver bug
Guys after i unlocked alchmic plant ppl tell me fill ur storge with them than keep gathering is that it or what should i rlly do in gaming at this point
"No more praying" Is it that all characters on my account need to get rid of the prayers to work as intended?
Banana🍌
Wait are you talking about the gaming superbits bonus?
Yeah
It's character specific but rarely almost never useful
i know this question might not make sense, but can someone give me an idea what is endgame. as in what do i need to do or have to be considered im in the endgame
Nope he will patch the new update probably creating restrictions after making sure p2w enjoyed the bait before the switch
Bc i feel sometimes i feel im there, and then i realise i dont have basic stuff from world 2
No curses means that you don't get giants, also you lose out on the specific buffs that you really want
I see, thanks ^^
Generally all rifts, elderich, and prints. If u can atom and print over 50-100m for insane atoms your pretty much endgame because of the alchemy loop. More first bubble equals more damage and etc.
There is no clear cut.
But I'll give a checklist of sort:
Have you unlocked all prayers?
Have you reached last rift?
Do you have more atoms than you can spend on bubbles/day?
ok looks like im no where near
Maybe you meant late game
late game would be more accurate yeah
Guess star signs are worth doing aswell, depending on how active you are.
when you speak in class levels, its early game.
when you speak in damage, its mid game.
when you speak in particles/samples, its late game.
When you speak in some arbitrary stats that only you are obsessed about, welcome to end game
well i consider myself kinda late game i think.
I just got eldritch so my grind has only begun 
i had prints 50k basic logs
and just found out i can update it. and it prints over 2million
So there is alot of stuff i havent been doing at all
Nah prnts need to at least be 100m+ after you reach the cap of 1050m all prints will automatically turn into atoms.
Generally you want to harri diety both your miner and woodchopper and stick them in lab for x6 prints per hour for even more atoms
2m samples isn't really lategame, late midgame maybe
damn. is it ok if i link my page, and then you can tell me what im missing out on
Once you can easily print over 10k atoms a day id say thats the start of getting to endgame
I still don't consider myself lategame with 160m log samples, though I might be there now
Doot kinda obscures it
As id say it gets exponentially easier after that. Base stats get insane when you can boost the bubbles hundreds per day.
bro i want doot so bad
it makes everything 100x easier
good thing i get paid on the first
then i can spend 20€ and pray
Until you unlock chem plants, what's the best thing to dump bits into?
Just don't give into the gacha when the <5% odds of hitting doot in that amount results in no doot
Especially if you don't have the money to spare
0.3% right?
i know
but your telling me theres a chance
I got sheep on free pull
$400 average for a 25% chance to get it, $1799 for a 99% chance. Odds are you wont
but i do have odds?
Doot dosent seem too op considering future updates will likely nerf or change the pet mechanic
^this - i'll personally only buy green gem packs & do free pulls (as far as pet companions go)
It's like doing the lottery otherwise
You might get lucky, just don't give in to the "just 1 more pack" if you cannot afford it
Tbh I half just want to buy the bundle for the cape
My brother in Christ lava has disappeared, what new updates?
Hes going to come back with a huge content update the glaze the server.
Future content being stronger doesn't negate how absurdly strong doot is in the current state
Surely 
Will be filled with fixes, new content, pet updates etc.
Nah im pretty sure.
If anything it's a herald of doom to come. More insane boosts hidden behind pseudo-forced p2w
I also can't get doot, but slime is literally impossble
I got slime about an hour ago 😆
All worships
I can see how not having doot would make you think that
You're high lmao
Additional accuracy, defence and damage
Is slime all worships?
bro it helps a ton
Additional levels
Okay you are blatantly wrong
Nah doot is good for sure but it wont cap me to endgame
Slime is +25% gold balls in arcade
Doot is broken.
Doot has quite literally given me more than a months of non-doot progress in the week since it came out
sure, but it could make stuff that would take months. to a week
elphant god.
It helps your account progress a lot faster, but it's not like you won't get there without it. Just longer
Tons of ppl were already wayyyy past end-game without it
I pretty much am at the point where my only barrier to endgame is atoms
Every time you get an afk proc, you get an afk proc in 1 of several random situations
Like, easily a month. Probably more like multiple
Yea its good but for me it wont take me where i need to go totally
Went from less than 10k atoms a day to 50k-100k depending on omni luck with nothing but doot
It's factually incorrect to say that doot isn't absurdly strong
Maybe irs because i dont have it. Might be too many bonuses
Probably am coping
Nah man, you got a good attitude about it. keep it up - everyone clownin on you's got fomo
It's definitely because you don't have it and are coping that you think it isn't as strong as it is 😛
Has lava broken his silence anywhere?
for example if you get 3d prints from one character being 24h afk
Its strong but im pretty much moving to endgame
tier3 treat, free companion=frog ;_;
Need elderichs ant prints thats all
I've got fomo with my 2 doots, you got me 🤔
wait you have 2 doots
hope so
But seeing people get like 500k atoms a day or way over 1b prints makes me feel as if doot simply wont get me there
hei there buddy. how has ur day been. wanna be my friend
I'm not saying the mentality you have isn't good if it's helping you not touch the hellscape that is gacha, but it's a thought process you probably don't want to say in Discord if you don't want to have your temptations tickled
So: snake god, +30% afk gain. more prints, also accuracy and defence for pushers (not reevant)
Bear god, char permanently in lab, so x2 prints, also +talent levels, so potentially more k/h.
bug god, x2 for deathnote and +%damage, which ends up boosting kill/h.
Bunny god, x3 prints, also coins (not relevent).
Goat god, The most useless of the dooted gods
elephant gods Additional refinery, or prints, or cooking, or sailing, or gaming, or breeding when claiming afks.
So +prints = more atoms. +cooking = more stats = larger prints.
cat god: useless.
flutterbe: fairly useless, helpful for skill leveling to get better skill levels.
But sure. doot doesn't help
Bruh flutter is actually amazing with doot wym
Did you know lava is going to add a trading system sometime
flutter doesn't help, with prints.
He will. Everytime he goes silent he just drops an update. Its like what music celebs do after getting exposed for something. Drop then speak on the issue afterwards
I'm getting enough red pearls in a few days to push each character to 50 cooking real easy
Which is his point.
You realise goat god gives 60% all afk gains
Doing that means the noise will likely be more positive as people are distracted by new content
Also thinking Lava is going to backtrack on the monitization is a hard cope too
Doot will make you an endgamer in 1/20th of the time the base endgamer used
isn't goat +5% for all characters? unless you mean it's +5% per character, so +50%?
His monetization has been slowly getting worse since w3 launched
I thought it was 6% and yeah its per character
Nah he wont but will pretend next few updates are holy just to switch with another p2w system
Ok yeah it's far better then
Better than the hard pessimism that won't result in anything but make you feel worse about the situation.
"this game's getting worse... omg" continues to play while bashing it
Also +1000% more coins because of bunny god
He's gonna ignore any backlash from this patch and release a new one that boasts about how he's giving so much free content
Why do you think he was constantly going on about it prior to this patch
He will make false claims that he is a good person, he banned every single person who has proofs against him
What was his reason for the currency, "harder to cheat in"?
He only thinks of money
It's based on div level, easy to go over 5%
What more reason do you need wdym
Yea this. But next update will definitely be filled to the brim so it will distract from the long silence and noise
Yeah, dont need to cheat in gems when they can just activate the companion's
Varies between characters
He hired a shadow writer to write him a dramatic sad story that its all endgamers fault and not his
I hope he wont correct the chatgpt mistakes
And let the typos in
wait is lava a bad person?
No, his reason that he likes money. Server backed means absolutely nothing when 2 hours into the patch there was already people posting screenshots of their cheated 40/40 storage of doots, showing they can just spawn the pets in
I dont want to say what you can do by using not legit ways
But Lava showed me that he wants people to not use legit ways to get blue gems
And use money for the green gems
Thats what I understood from his stance.
If he meant something else, idk.
They can't add green gems to their account, but turned out that didn't matter
Yea, it dosent at all.
It's almost like unless every single thing updates about an account is processed through a server for validation, he can't do anything about it
Lava doesnt know coding, I understand that. But being such a greedy person. Literally devs who said "idc if you use illegit ways to gain power or buy my packs, thanks for playing the game"
Go further into the future
And he decided to ban every single person who's names are on the spreadsheets
Like wtf bro, where the public relations at
Well no, he pretended he cared about cheating and used it as an excuse to fuck over every single other person that plays the game
Kim Jong Un style public relations
The only way Doot is manageable, is when newer worlds come in. And there are other stuff that we must focus on.
But this contradicts it, because it will mean that we dont need Doot almost at all.
Therefore he shouldnt release it even more.
more like if new worlds come in and the gods dont have much effect on them
In Idle Skilling his updates had the same pattern.
Something gamebreaking on one update was almost useless 4 updates later.
more likely new powerful pets come with new worlds tbh
Yes but when more broken stuff come out, you will be in a place where in some weeks of grinding you will break the wall
Constantly releasing massive power creep isn't good for the long term of a game. Plenty of games have made that mistake
If his development pattern is the same as Idle Skilling, this was a very bad timing of introducing Doot
Hell Lava made that mistake in IS lmao
I know xD
But his mistake wasnt that big of a deal as this one.
Because his timing was better.
What is this?
goat
Divinity in W5
Is that coharut?
But you dont have to use TranQi because another god makes you count as you are on the altar, am I wrong?
You are wrongn't, if you have Goat then being in lab is also being on altar
other than that there are no gods which make you be on altar!
maybe the last 2 gods when they release
If you have doot being anywhere is 6x printing 
and what does that have to do with what I said 
witthout doot i was using 7 omniphau already, with doot i would have only 3 more , cant see how that is so strong
bear/goat combo as ES didn't work, I'd be surprised if it did with doot
and considering omni has equal chance of procing in 6 areas thats extra 4h of each average per day per character, so 12h of extra atoms with companion doot vs no companion doot . Cant see how that is insanely broken *atoms only
goat needs physical presence in lab, and bear doesnt count as physical presence
ahhh ok sry
You wont have infinite points
You will oonly have every single God until you unlock it
You will have semi-infinite points
Even after obtaining doot, you would use lab to raise div pts/exp
div levels are much important with sheepie and doot, so actually leveling them became more important
Doot is nice if u are new to W5 and all, but like for me that is done with gaming, sailing, breeding, divinity, its only W1 deathnote, its only an extra source of 3 omniphau procs per day for atoms =/ . Good quality of life also
That is the biggest cope I have ever seen in my life but you do you man
previously div level only affected one minor link bonus, but now it raises 8 different minor link bonuses at the same time if you have doot
but like, what would i do with doot effectively? im done with everything, im just sitting getting atoms to upgrade bubbles for the sake of it
You get a hell of a lot more atoms for one
and i already get 7 omniphau procs per day, while all my main skillers are on goat /lab for x6 prints
if you were using 7 omni before that also means you have rabbit on 7 more characters too. Assuming you have the standard split of characters (3-3-3-1) that means you have 3 more characters printing logs/ore at 6x rate than you did before, which is still fairly huge gains.
Your actual samples will increase too, as everyone has +100% afk gains and bear god active at all times
i have 5 characters on rabbit + 7 characters on omniphau
You could have 10 and 10
I saw people saying they have 303 in skills my highest is like 299 what source could I be missin' ?
Not to mention harriep is a massive money multi that stacks so it would double all your money output
Doot
Div levels cap their bonus at 80 right?
Everyone gets the free levels from bear alongside everything else too
Stop deviatin from the topic im saying that i only need atoms
Or maybe wurms to push 5k family level
atom wise, dont care about other stuff
Okay that is a u problem
So your arugment is that doot isnt that good because you're choosing to ignore other game mechanics
Get better at the game and print more in that case
Wait, there's some dumb people who don't think doot is ridiculously OP?
Just because you have a shitty perspective doesnt mean doot isnt busted
It means you're viewing the game wrong
sour grape syndrome
Link the message where i said doot wasnt good please
More money to boost stamps to boost samples to boost atoms 🤔
"I don't have doot so it's bad"
And besides even if you really do only need atoms which simply isnt true doot would still give you more
Literally here
Doot is good QoL 🤡
Okay you said 'nice', but Doot is a lot more than that
so where did i say it wasnt good
For just “getting a bigger sample”, rift slug probably affects samples more than doot, but real boon of doot is that it also buffs many other things which synergies power and utility
If you only need atoms are you sitting here telling us all your worship statues are max level, all your plates are max level, you've maxed out all your building levels? 🤔
Snek - perma 30% afk gains . Assumed you already had this - easier to resample = more atoms
Bear: Higher talent level = more atoms
Harriep: 6x prints, on more characters = more atoms. More money = easier stamp levels = more skill eff = more atoms
goat: afk gains on all characters = more atoms
Omni: Omni procs on all characters = more atoms
Flutterbis: More skill exp = more base skill efficiency = bigger prints = more atoms
I mean you get 9 people to give you afk gains that's a shit tone of afk as no one outside leaderboard flexing went fully focused on on char to sample
yeah still didnt see where i said doot wasnt good sorry
No guys I think he has a point. If you choose to put blinders on and hyper focus on one specific game mechanic choosing to believe the others arent relevant then yeah doot is only kinda good
Just ignore all the other stuff he does and hes not OP anymore
@opaque sun What is your skilling afk gains at at this point with doot?
Doot is nice if u are new to W5 and all, ... its only an extra source of 3 omniphau procs per day for atoms =/ . Good quality of life also
That's you, right here #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
now link where i said it wasnt good
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message Ok sure, your message that started the entire thing
Can't see how ithat is so strong
yes now can u try linking the message where i say doot isnt good?
You also said you only need atoms because you're done with everything which is one of the most early game takes I've heard in a long time
cuz if u are saying i said doot wasnt good, u will surely be able to find it right?
You said hes not strong
Like 300%+
Not that different
Oh gotcha, unless you quite literally said those words you've actually won the argument, didn't realise we were playing that clown show
Not to mention using 7 omni meant that more than half of your family is in the lab, with doot every character is free from the lab which with boost gives you essentially 1000%+ afk gains in what ever you want
are we talking about subjective interpretation here based on each ones views?
The nuance of speech. Saying Doot is broken is a fact. Saying Doot is good is close to a fact. Saying Doot is ok or nice is not a fact
I'm not sure if you've used languages before, but if you argue that something isn't very good, and someone goes "hey, this is good, you're wrong", you don't get to invalidate their entire argument by going "actually I didn't use those exact words"
Theres really nothing subjective about doot though
You just think there is because you're making the concious decision to ignore game mechanics
Your arguments are that it's not actually that good. You didn't say "doot is not good", but you implied it, that's how words work
You said all you need is atoms because you're done with everything else
“doot is not that great since i dont have it” is a brokenly good cope reaction
Thought that was how subjective interpreation worked
Yeah if you choose to ignore every other good thing he does and just look at one thing then sure hes not that strong
But thats also very disingenuous
Maybe this is naive of me, but if people at Pancake and Topbird's stage of this game are telling you that doot is busted, maybe you don't have a leg to stand on even in your very hyper-specifically defined use case
Also they arent even done with all the game mechanics besides atoms
So not sure what you've done to reach that point
Is lvl 60 plates a reachable endgame goal yet?
For early meals its already been done
Maybe they are done with their personal goals? But then their takes are purely on a subjective scale
I think thunda had the first page of meals at 60
Or at least close to the whole page
Hot damn
Sheeesh
people are questioning doots impact on the game ?
Always have been
Maybe it's a good thing gods don't have a direct boost to meal cooking speed
i think he had until cabbage
no wait yeah
should be whole

i guess i'll do it now for fun too
Is Thunda still playing, or did he skidaddle skidoodle too? I don't really go in endgame talk all that much as it's too big brain for my pinchy account
wtf
he got banned

F
It's the meme. Sorry couldn't resist
He quit less than an hour after the patch dropped and then got banned a few days later
W6
Just 9 more weeks until the next pet that breaks the game 
When we give more money
2x alchemy power
We have to summon Lava with a pile of cold hard cash
2x alch power and then zelbs game breaks because of gold clicks
Neah to weak, better make it 2x for log of total bubbles whilst working with atom 
2x bubble effects (ignores effect caps) would be broken doot tier
big game hunter doing infinite giants
the cap would probably be the bubble effect, rather than a hard cap like prowess has
Wouldn't be strong because Lava doesn't want to use blue gems anymore
Oh fuck yeah imagine 100% chance on big gamg hunter
but shitloads of candies
Rolling in gems forever
You'd get an absurd amount of candy though
E39 on first table lol
1.6x diamond chef...
At 100% chance you would never get past the first giant spawn rate. Literally a giant every bubo respawn lol
I assume if we get something like that it would essentialy work just like doubling your bubble levels fundementaly. Meaning if you are on 90% for the main bubbles you wouldn't even reach 95%. Only thing that would be insane is linear bubbles
and makes DK the best mob farmer with infinite giants dropping big mats i suppose
Infinite candy
198% chance to not consume food. Using food gives you new food, instead.
and stuff like carpenter and diamond chef super buffs if 2x
Double GT
2x gt kind of weak considering other 2x
double cranium
Free event food 
600% multi ore/log/fish/bugs sounds nice
Can finally greenstack nomwichs
Wait we forgot about double larry. Guaranteed +3 with 10%-20% +4 
are you discussing a pet which doubles big bubbles?
What other stuff would be worth doot tier buffs
Doot tier pet that doubles all bubbles
Early access to new worlds 
Why stop at big bubbles 
did lava leave the server?
If it was all bubbles, then doubling bubbles 7 and 2 is pretty strong
no?
I had issues finding his username as well earlier still here tho
ah
but you can always just go to #💖future-content-blog or something and clicc his name
Would something like multiply all stamp bonuses by 10 be a doot tier pet?
I would say so
10 is a lot
like really too much
10x multitool is absolutely insane yes
10x Crystal chance
10x refinery speed sounds fun too
Ma printer boutta work overtime
All cards doubled/passive would probably be another contender
Oooo that sounds very brolen
card 2x & passive doesnt offer much new mechanic, so its slug tier at best
Actually not that broken
I have a general question, when I afk for 1h 30min and log in in divinity, I get 1 exp and 1 point, but does it reset to 0min 0sek bc I logged in or is there a hidden exp bar or so
or just give w6 and there can be given some new insane boosts!
Gotta wait at least 6 months
All cards passive sounds like the new sheepie tier
Just lock W6 behind a new pet. Access to 3 new skills is probably doot tier
new class unlock tied to pet 
Baba Yaga “unlocks update 1.XX”
took a lot of ladles lol
Holy
🧑🍳
Jesus christ
Who let bro in the kitchen
Master cook
Mastechef
Who let Pancake cook
marrow must be looking high numbers
pancake maxed pancakes, all is good in the world
that's what i thought when i maxed it
finally i can embrace the pancake
How many ladles would it take for you to max out sausage atm Pancake?
Sosig
a lot
it's 1k even for only going to 51
Not even vman can help sosig
So like, 500k? Probably like a week of afking for ladles for you then 🤔
nah a lot more, each lvl is a big scale
Level 70 max meals when
It'd be a lot more. The scaling on meals is absurd
New pet, unlocks new artifact tier
New Pet, doubles all artifacts effect (so normal is 2x, ancient is 4x and elder is 6x)
New pet, doubles all pets
Damn ok, have you got much more room to decently push your cook speed, or are you realistically as high as you can go atm?
i'm at 19 fluoride
i could do some more superchows but it's less than 2x of what i have now
Maxing all plates would probably need another source of meal speed then, is what I'm hearing
To get it in a realistic time frame anyway
yeah but i think he'll need to increase max lvls too
can't let a skill die
so it needs to be unmaxable
I farmed some spare gems and I could buy one of these, what would you recommend?
sprinkler
👀 how many gods have you unlocked? and do you have 20 loot pile ?
I just reached w5
so currently 9 chars in divinity and 1 is slowly pushing the first portal
1 sprinkler might be best for you
why push tho 
idk what to do else haha
I could farm cards with my ES and send my DK to divinity too
Greenstack ladles
ah my bb hasnt even a single zow or chow stack, I forgot which one is for the 1mio
sluggo and spark are both good imo, i'd buy spark to unlock bear faster
100k zow, 1m chow
but I think it might be best to wait for the god to give him that x2 deathnote count
Should get on that, w1-3 should be easy at minimum
BB gets loads of KPK, can do without nobisect
hmm, but I can active a character until tonight, would it be a good idea to active bb for kills
Have you had them in lab too, or ignored that as well
Chowing is either a candy or afk process, no point doing it active because the class sucks at active killing
never active bb
so if you could choose between farming card drop% cards with ES vs w5 leveling/pushing with DK, what would you do?
bb has no mob respawn talent and good aoe talent
only time is maybe if you need to class level on crystals for few hours at best
You wouldn't card farm with ES regardless
oh really?
There's also little point in trying to push the w5 zones yet
cards come for free from the real task for ES - green stacks
Ignoring 5 star cards anyway, but you're way off that
ES is also best for mob cards wdym
i'd push until unlock w5 task
but I probably want a higher ES than lvl 120 for that, right?
Oh yeah best for it, but you're likely not specifically card farming for 4 star regular mob cards. They're a side effect of getting the stacks
I would try to get 3star, not 4star rn
Its nice to farm some impactful ones like poop, genie and dr cards
maybe farming pop obols with ES?
yeah but for that I really want to have good card% cards first, right? haha
other mob cards would max when you 100m/1b deathnote with candies
I got this
👀 really? i always use slice when doing deathnote with candies
what are pop obols?
oooh
I could get these horns for my refinery, the obols and cards at the same time, sounds good tbh
you want to do dice first before pops
you will need 24 sliver pop obols if ignoring slab
just because pops being in w1, doesnt mean you should do pops first
how does purrmep work with doot do you still have to link him to an archer\vman?
ES made pops a lot easier so it isn't as big of an issue now
dice is faster if you have choco chip
still have to link 1
Especially if you don't have choco chip which makes dice way slower
cool thanks
Still no reason not to dice first that gives more easy and bigger dr quicker
but i dont have choco chip at that time, I did pop first
where can I get dice?
Any W2 mob since its from crystals
oh
which card layout should I use
to be fair, without choco chip i think pops are faster with es
as much dr as possible if dk
does this look alright?
do you not have mr. brightside card or the doot cards?
that snake card is an accident
👀 wow you actually have event card that I dont have
I dont think so
well then you can just put some card drop chance instead of snake for cards too
I never killed doot haha
crystal carrot card is not that hard to raise with Maestro
only like 100ish cards for 4x
do you have the crystal chance special talent yuu?
you should get that, it helps quite a bit with crystals and its easy to get
how to get it?

