lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[normal sedge]

i mean hes probably doing something with the game

[thin rose]

Yeah he is

[normal sedge]

just doesn't feel like replying atm, maybe its not ready

[halcyon basalt]

guess this is gen chat #2 ok

[thin rose]

Slower and less aids than gen tbf

[normal sedge]

anywhere with d**t issue becomes genchat

[fiery mason]

we still answer questions here

[normal sedge]

yeah lets not talk about that here

[halcyon basalt]

Then i'd appreciate a hint towards my question

Because this is the same over in endgame talk not gonna lie

[fiery mason]

noone has a list

[halcyon basalt]

Everyone bussing over the update

[fiery mason]

might change if lava ever reacts

[halcyon basalt]

Not my issue i just want my question answered

If you think nobody has a list then u got me covered thank you

[fiery mason]

well noone has ur list it seems 😄

[normal sedge]

its on wiki

[versed cypress]

talents that use materials that use resources that go into your storage

[halcyon basalt]

so if i upgrade my atom this will go up

[versed cypress]

RESOURCES it needs to be a material that goes in storage

[halcyon basalt]

pf

took me a while to register thanks

[thin rose]

Copper for mining efficiency would be an example

Or tree leaves for tree chopping

[halcyon basalt]

and leaves for chop eff

yes

[versed cypress]

copper oak and leaves, and red salt

[halcyon basalt]

alright

[versed cypress]

i think thats all the power of 10 that use resources

[muted bramble]

also green souls i believe

[halcyon basalt]

See Gareth, someone did have an answer ^^

[versed cypress]

ohh yeah green souls for worship

[halcyon basalt]

Thank you :)

[fiery mason]

so atleast we are not genchat

[versed cypress]

dont we have one for critters too???

i dont remember if we have one for frogs

[halcyon basalt]

we do

[versed cypress]

then that would be another one

so thats 6 talents

[versed cypress]

6 talents, not really that amazing considering its the most expensive atom upgrade to max out xDD

[halcyon basalt]

Sounds like a bonus that matters though

[versed cypress]

it helps

[halcyon basalt]

Everything helps in IdleonTM

[versed cypress]

every little boost counts

[untold arch]

it helps, but the costs scale up a lot

[versed cypress]

cost goes up by power of tens as well xDD

[steady turret]

Yes but not by a lot from what I've seen.
Like the last bubble for the non beginner bubbles has a massive impact on damage

I should probably resample now that I've got doot

[frank harbor]

Oh so just link to any god and then go to lab and I’ll get the exp/points

[untold arch]

yeah very strong for samples

[kind mulch]

What's best strat for unlock last mutation?

[versed cypress]

calim ever 0.3% or so and do as many rolls as you can

[untold arch]

the cat helps

[versed cypress]

the more you roll the more chances you get it

[untold arch]

if you can check in frequently****

[kind mulch]

are you sure?

[kind mulch]

yeah, already use it

[versed cypress]

you get around 0.3% chance with 40 DNA to get 0.5% you need aorund 150 dna and thats close to where it caps

[kind mulch]

oh, ok, thx

[versed cypress]

this is like the artifacts for sailing, you dont want a high chance, youw ant to roll a million times on low chance

[untold arch]

took me months btw, hope that doesnt discourage

but didnt use cat the whole time

[versed cypress]

yeah it took me also almost 4 months of constant rolling to get it

so its a long tedious process

[fallen torrent]

@kind mulch every 0.1%-0.2% claim it to be honest

[versed cypress]

you can get lucky fast or you can take a while but keep at it

[fallen torrent]

it took me 2 month or so yeah

[green eagle]

think i'm just going to us ES to farm the starter hats for slab

[steady turret]

How's your slab now?

[green eagle]

mainly obols missing atm. working on those, but some i never bothered to make (obviously) lol

[steady turret]

Try doing the baba yaga one?

[green eagle]

farming w1 colo is just not what i want to do atm hahaha

[steady turret]

Fine I suppose, shouldn't be too difficult to get tho.
And obols shouldn't be too difficult?

Especially with the str/agi/wis ones

That DR and pop should be super easy to do

That's 6 slots

[fiery mason]

u got fragments ?

[green eagle]

i use up those fragments literally as i work on those last 24 obols

well 22 are craftable

only have 28 atm, had 2k when i started making my dice and pop page

[steady turret]

It's basically farming some obols and extra fragments then a bit of bubo for obols I think.

Bubo will take a bit cause waiting for daily reset

[green eagle]

why bubo? dk for frags?

[fiery mason]

the skilling obols are only from alchemy i think

[steady turret]

Bubo to farm liquid for the obols from shop

Because that's how you get mining obols and such I think

[elder oracle]

Absent dev still absent?

[serene latch]

ye, the game seems ded

game died for lava sins

[fiery mason]

how long does eldr fury take ? worth to 20 book some stuff ith ancient fury ?

also shouldnt this say shaman lol

[radiant geyser]

I hope not. I'll give it another week then hit the road. Maybe just stick them in lab until everything bounces back.

[fiery mason]

seems to be doing fine

[slow lantern]

Ig newer players don't know about the bs update.

Who is going to outright guess what Doot does.

[round elk]

You kinda forget guys that we are not the mayority of the players

[slow lantern]

In what sense.

[round elk]

Like that the people that hang in the discord or even talk might be the 10% of the players base

And that's being generous

[slow lantern]

Hm, fair assumption.

[brittle dagger]

are these the best weapon stones, or is there something better I should use

[green eagle]

went from never having it dropped before to getting 133 at once lmao

[slow lantern]

Those are the best of the best.

[green eagle]

those are BIS until next world

[brittle dagger]

thx guys

[slow lantern]

Np.

[round elk]

Lmao same like 3 weeks ago

[slow lantern]

What are those lol.

[round elk]

Babayaga eggs

You need them to get a chip

[green eagle]

that, but more importantly S L A B

https://tenor.com/view/courage-the-cowardly-dog-gif-25234702

[peak patio]

es is the best class to farm rare drops like lab rings right?

got it ty!

[slow lantern]

Which chip.

Ig something endgame ish.

[primal bison]

Doot was the best addition to the game and will simply keep me playing the game forever

[brittle dagger]

yeah i bet

[dapper prism]

Just Remember
ES = For drops from the actual mob, DR affects the wormhole mobs a shitton, but not other mobs. Good for cards.
DK = DR from orb affects all the mobs, so you can stack ur orb at like purple mushroom miniboss etc then kill them. So DK for things like crystal mob drops etc.

ES DR is a bunch stronger/better than DK overall. But each has their own situational usage

[green eagle]

why are you blank!?

[ashen marsh]

would you guys buy this?

[brittle dagger]

its cost effective, its more a matter of if the premium gem thing bothers you or not

[iron ravine]

26K people in the discord and 100 that have been banned 😛

[fallow kayak]

reasons

[fiery mason]

better not support lava anymore but it is good value

[ashen marsh]

i wonder when it will go away

[green eagle]

banner packs stay forever

until you buy them, they just rotate

[ashen marsh]

yah, i meant the rotate srry

[green eagle]

that idk, i think lava does it?

[sweet mountain]

You mean the second premium gem right? Cuz technically the blue gem is also premium.

[peak patio]

ty for the reminder!

[stiff prairie]

And vman for bosses since DK cant boost the droprate well there

You could potentially boost orb to 20 in nightmare chizor but i wouldnt recomend trying

[bright quail]

is there any vial for just pure damage?

[thin rose]

pet damage, sure

overall damage, no

but rat tails and kraken gives WP

so close enough

[bright quail]

oh okay thanks

i meant damage%

[fervent solstice]

Idleoninsight will have all the bonuses if you want to search

[bright quail]

can u link me?

[fervent solstice]

Has premade sets also

On phone

[bright quail]

actually nvm i wont be lasy

lazy*

thanks

[fervent solstice]

Just idleoninsight. com

[bright quail]

yeah im on it

[fervent solstice]

Top right is presets

[ashen marsh]

does troll armor suck?

[fervent solstice]

Other wise you can just type whatever and it will search

[bright quail]

no damage preset, just crit damage

[fervent solstice]

Troll builds to w5 armor

[ashen marsh]

no crit chance right

[fervent solstice]

I would just search the word damage

[bright quail]

chance and damage

[fervent solstice]

If you are familiar with the operators you can make some complicated searches like in the presets

[bright quail]

okay thanks

[fervent solstice]

Excludes terms etc

[bright quail]

btw should i push sailing islands? or just keep going for an artifact that im going for?

like im only on island 8 bc im tryna get gummy orb rn

[paper sail]

More islands means more ships with enough speed to reach that island

Unlock more as your fastest explore round trip is 4hr or less I'd say

[bright quail]

yeah some of the artifacts are good aswell

[fervent solstice]

Depends if you play actively or not

[paper sail]

Sure but 20 assigned ships finds artifacts faster than 5

[bright quail]

i have 13 ships

and yeah i play active

it takes me 20 hours on average to get to next cloud :/

12 is around my fastest

i assume thats not worth it?

[paper sail]

Stuck until you work on more speed then

[bright quail]

alright

[fervent solstice]

Yea unless the next arti is super helpful just stay on 2hr

[bright quail]

yea rn ill have everyone on unlocking materials for speed

[fervent solstice]

Unless you don’t have the rift for eld and you have ancients already

[bright quail]

i only have a few ancients

and dont have the rift thingy yet

[green stone]

which characters are best for the kill all before any respawn rift?really struggling on one of those

[bright quail]

bubo

pirate guy

es

[fervent solstice]

Don’t use flag etc

[green stone]

wow I must be doing something mega wrong then lol, did it easily on my dk and struggled on all those 😦

[near goblet]

Pirate guy

[bright quail]

im not here to remember names 🤷‍♂️

lmaoo

whats his name again?

[fervent solstice]

Sb

[bright quail]

oh yeah

breaker#

[cursive flare]

I wonder when I'll stop coming back expecting a lava response

[bright quail]

just dont check for a week

[thin rose]

Now hopefully

[bright quail]

and dont start this update thing again please 😭

[fervent solstice]

I mean, he’ll have to post an update at some point

Just for future stuff

[cursive flare]

...does he?

[fervent solstice]

(If he doesn’t quit)

But yea any time from 1-4 weeks

[round elk]

yeah not enough to influence the influx of players

[fervent solstice]

Depending on a persons patience

[bright quail]

if he doesnt have a summer event and just dips ill be so pissed -_-

[fervent solstice]

Summer event unlikely

[bright quail]

i need the candies tho :(

[fervent solstice]

We just had one

[bright quail]

want*

not need

lmao

[bright quail]

its never enough >:D

[thin rose]

I'll take candies, need my DN kills up

[bright quail]

is there any way to lower the roll i need for a new vial? instead of 99 all the time?

[fervent solstice]

But yea if anyone is looking for a fun game try factorio

Has a free demo

[fervent solstice]

You know how to do the spam drop technique right?

[bright quail]

nah i got a game im good, idleon is just a spare time game

[bright quail]

nope :D

well i just figured that out there by myself like 2 mins ago

[fervent solstice]

Get single item stacks in your inventory

[bright quail]

for different items tho

not the same

[bright quail]

ohh yeah gotcha

[fervent solstice]

Then drop them all at once to take advantage of the epic moment thing

[crude oxide]

Some epic 🍝

[bright quail]

ill have to wait till tomorrow again :D

anyway im gonna head, good luck, tell me if lava comes back from hawaii or something 👍

[ashen marsh]

is pendant worth getting?

[iron ravine]

ive asked people why they dont stop playing in this discord and people responded with theyre waiting for a response. ive stopped playing the game for more then 5 mins but some people in here dont wanna lose GAINS

[ashen marsh]

is this the scarf?

[thin rose]

Yes

Scarf >>>

[bright quail]

chaotic scarf yeah

[noble mesa]

Yep

[serene forum]

Does elderich get harder the more you have or does it get harder the higher island your on?

[fervent solstice]

?

[serene forum]

For example, if i only have 2 enderichs will steak be easier to get vs if i have 8 elderichs already?

[mossy sluice]

The harder the further the island is.

[serene forum]

Okay thx

[mossy sluice]

No problem.

[fervent solstice]

Each artifact is relatively independent chance to get

The chance for getting both in one chest is so small it’s not worth feeling missing over

[random lake]

hey guys, any updates?

awe

[serene forum]

Also is it normal to not have second to last bit plant? Ive been doing it at 0.3-1% for months still nothing

[fervent solstice]

Just keep at it every harvest

[serene forum]

Already about to hit billions of green bit stack

Are my odds bad? In that regard

[fervent solstice]

When did you start gaming

When w5 came out?

Or did you get to w5 recently

[green stone]

almost everyone I've seen took ages to get 2nd to last then got last the next day

[fervent solstice]

We’ve had some ppl who were unlucky take till now to get chem plant who have played w5 since release

[crude oxide]

Guilty of that

[sacred frigate]

I got evergreen yesterday after rolling on 1-2% for about 3 months... not looking forward to the next 6 months of chem grinding

[radiant geyser]

Oy we're in Dice 1 if people want to do dungeon

[honest spoke]

Try the plant at .1 more likely to get it faster

[sacred frigate]

Thanks for the tip

[green eagle]

finally a decent captain

[ashen marsh]

does this stack in dungeon?

[crude oxide]

Additive but yes

[green eagle]

it's still nice keep stacking it

[low nymph]

Is using the cat in gaming overnight worth it or only when playing actively?

[near goblet]

Only when active

[slow sky]

Hey all, got weatherbook, but not ancient, once I get that, will essentially my bits multi be doubled?

[random salmon]

sheesh... so how do i actually get reasonable quantities of frigid souls? i'm in w5 but frigid soul totem thingy only drops... like... 13 souls so i still haven't had enough lifetime drops to get anvil tab 4, or gray gatsby

[untold arch]

Better waves on Td unfortunately

[random salmon]

yee that's the problem, i still can't make it past, like, wave 13 😂

[untold arch]

There are some various boosts to soul gains, but you're just multiplying the base and if the base is low, there really isn't much of an increase

yeah its brutal all i can really recommend is ideally raise poison tower, but boulder also works

[random salmon]

"raise poison tower"?

[untold arch]

and focus on getting construction level up as well i suppose

level up the wizard towers

level up the poison one

[random salmon]

wizard towers?

[untold arch]

ye, these dudes

pulse mage in particular is fairly weak/gets outshined by the others

[random salmon]

what "poison one"?

[untold arch]

also starting TD points help, stamp & vial

[green stone]

poson one is the green one further along

early on your best bet is to just level up the boulder roller

[random salmon]

ah you mean this one

[crude oxide]

Boulders are definitely a cheap route though depending on your cons. You can get by the dreaded 40 wave with a half decent lvl

[green stone]

it will oneshot everything if you basically just use that and level it up a lot

[fiery mason]

for noww dont focus on psn get ur boulder to atleast 25 thats enough for wave 50 frigid

[random salmon]

yeeee about that...

[fiery mason]

psn is to expensive for now, boulder is cheap and effective...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w00CmPEvs5Y&t=10s

[ashen marsh]

whos this one good for?

[random salmon]

"cheap" is debatable 😂

[fiery mason]

well its the cheapest tower to get you there...

[random salmon]

it's 10 hours just to get the build points for one level i mean xD

[fiery mason]

yea and how many for psn tower 😄 you will need your psn tower to be lvl 20 + to be even usable

[golden gust]

Any advice to help get t5 bush?

[fervent solstice]

Or grinding t6s when your snail resets. Depends on your growth cycle a bit also

[random salmon]

sooo what i'm gathering is it'll take about 3 more months to be able to unlock anvil tab 4 😂

[green eagle]

it is time young one, there is a nice cove somewhere for retired sailors to go sail peacefully.

[random salmon]

nice balancing 👍

[fiery mason]

not really you must have neglcted construction i suppose how old is your account even ?

[fervent solstice]

Nothing

[fiery mason]

you can probably already do wave 40 with 10 boulder

[ashen marsh]

no specific class?

[fervent solstice]

It’s crap

[ashen marsh]

true, it is crap

[random salmon]

probably around when i joined discord server, so start of may?

[crude oxide]

It was halfway decent before dk if you could reliably (lol) stack 100% block

It's really outclassed by the new elites

[green eagle]

that one is actually very nice after you have foal. you do monster damage with your spells/one auto every 2 minutes

[fiery mason]

all thing look like they will take eternal at the start but you will be swimming in blue souls not far from now

[fervent solstice]

What’s growth cycle?

[fiery mason]

you can active dk if you wwanna improve ur build rate

[fervent solstice]

Ok time for ✈️

[fiery mason]

construction obols also help

[random salmon]

also i don't think i've neglected it very much? imean haven't been going super p2w but i have 6 build slots all running pretty much consistently?
like i realized how shit diminishing returns on gears are so my chars still haven't reached level 40

[golden gust]

How do i check?

[random salmon]

i have one of those on my account

[fervent solstice]

On the fertilizer tab

[fiery mason]

do you have your cogs all exp ?

[random salmon]

??? imean i'm using cogtimizer to focus on xp, yes?

[golden gust]

13 min

[grand karma]

cons bubble?

[fervent solstice]

Evo chance around 19%?

[fiery mason]

show us ur cogs with filter for exp

[vestal delta]

all your cogs should be highest exp%, ignore build and flag rate

[golden gust]

18.3

[fiery mason]

i mean your account is just pretty new thats why

[fiery mason]

people get to w5 so fast now its crazy

[fervent solstice]

Should only take a day or two for t5s

[scarlet bay]

Cogtimizer doesn't use directional xp cogs correctly

So it's not recommended to use it

[fervent solstice]

Less than a week ig

[fiery mason]

he doesnt even have red cogs

[amber dagger]

Okay im back has Lava said anything

[golden gust]

I have did log/chemicals/bubbles 6 days of progress with these bushes no luck but got chemical and cactus randomly

[fiery mason]

you just have to give it some time

[amber dagger]

How long must we wait 🥲

[zenith fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/egold-egld-elrond-network-crypto-krypto-gif-23374229

[random salmon]

imean.... i did it less strict earlier, but 1x build, 20x xp, 2x flag is my setting now,
but i only realized today how wasteful waiting for gears is

[timid panther]

https://pharma.idleonefficiency.com/

[zenith fiber]

If you still have hope it will change, then you probably haven't waited long enough

[fiery mason]

most of your build rate will come from high lvl squire

upgrade the bubble and active dk

best you can do

[bold quiver]

wasnt this 50 before?:

[golden gust]

No

[green eagle]

has always been 30

[vestal delta]

Honestly just get all your cogs to atleast xx% exp. It should be easy to try to aim for at least 800% total exp gain from your current setup

[random salmon]

why "active dk"? doesn't the faster const xp still work afk?

[bold quiver]

got it thanks, its been so long since i did a speed run that i couldnt tell

[fiery mason]

check ur build rate on dk and check it on other, ofc gotta skill the talent

[random salmon]

again, like i said, a big issue is that i didn't appreciate how extreme diminishing returns on cog production rates are

[fiery mason]

thats just obols u can snap afaik

[bold quiver]

was there a hidden portal at giang frogs w1?

[crude oxide]

You can still get somewhat ok rolls on lower tier cogs as a temporary stopgap

[vestal delta]

hidden portal at wode boards, snelbies, neyeptunes, etc... Basically all thepre- boss maps

[random salmon]

like every gear doubles the time until the next gear, and any points gained after the breakpoint halve in value (IE 300 pts = 1 gear @ 200 pts + 50 pts progress to the next)

[bold quiver]

wode isnt hidden '.'

cuz i remember there was a hidden portal at w1 so im assumed it was at bullfrog

[untold arch]

Slimes have a portal for sticks that doesn't show a portal count

& sticks has 2 portals

[vestal delta]

Iirc wodeboards unlock frogs and also the hidden boss portal

[random salmon]

eh, i could also just click the "collect" button every 5 minutes and 30 seconds, and refill the whole inventory in about 3 hours, where not collecting gives you about 3 gears in that same amount of time

[thin rose]

I wonder how well having 1 of each elite class and having 4 vman would work, would all 4 vmans buffs stack?

[bold quiver]

no, only bnefit is gambling everyday on 4 printer go brr

[vestal delta]

I just followed this and got high score of 50~, assumed they weren't lying 😂
https://old.reddit.com/r/idleon/comments/13mhamu/spoiler_vman_guide_for_highscore/

[random salmon]

like, here's my progress for xp just today after figuring that out

[thin rose]

eh it was a genuine question

[untold arch]

yeah cog pulling is fairly active sadly

[bold quiver]

4vman its kinda dumb imo, u dont even need that many atoms until rly rly rly late game dude, late game where u dont even have anything else to do on alchemy

[thin rose]

So eternal str, agi, wis and luk wouldn't apply to each character?

like I'm thinking off right and left hand stacking 4 times

would be kinda nuts

[vestal delta]

That's some good looking progress dude

[bold quiver]

it would

[thin rose]

idk about you but that sounds pretty cracked

[vestal delta]

Nice, anyway yeah in the first comment they claim all the boss zones have extra portals so it's probably at wodes not frogs

[bold quiver]

yeah very nice. I still woudlnt create 4 vman tho, kinda sad

[thin rose]

I mean I already have all 10 char, but I kinda would've liked a 2nd beginner class as my 10th

but chat said go sb

[bold quiver]

Sheep!

[thin rose]

think I might make an alt with 10 beginner classes

for le memes

[bold quiver]

My only reason for getting 2 SB was because 2 BM sucks and i didnt want 4 mage class =[

[vestal delta]

If you have 2 bb can one's chow stacks apply to the other? Or is it still per-character?

[thin rose]

I feel ya on that

kinda wish I got 2 dk's instead of 2 bb's

[bold quiver]

tough acc D=

[bold quiver]

u can get it tho, just buy the token swap before it goes away from limited

[thin rose]

don't have the gems

[bold quiver]

Just farm them on x1 boss runs. 1 key = 1.15 gems (if u use excess keys

[thin rose]

I totally don't keep buying miracle chests

[bold quiver]

why would u buy miracle chest? thatseems bad

[thin rose]

cause if It hits

then big gains

[bold quiver]

hmmm

what odd do u get from a normal chest vs miracle chest

[vestal delta]

like 50x the loot

[thin rose]

^

also 30x artifact chance

[atomic kiln]

thats terrible

dont ever every buy that chest lol

[bold quiver]

but what is the rate

normal chest vs miracle chest

cuz normal late islands rate i around 0,02% (eldrich)

[thin rose]

mine are like 0.8% rn

[atomic kiln]

once ur high in lvls and boat speed + arti chance, u can claim the value of 100 miracle chests daily or more

[bold quiver]

with a miracle chest?

[thin rose]

without

[bold quiver]

o.o

[radiant geyser]

Miracle cheats have given me a lot of artifacts fyi

[bold quiver]

oh well i guess u just have gems to waste haha

[radiant geyser]

I'd say a 1/3rd of mine are just from that

[atomic kiln]

there is a lot more else u can buy with gems then miracle chest

[thin rose]

same here

[atomic kiln]

or save the money, or even try and get doot øpø

[bold quiver]

al my eldrich artifacts were without miracle chest lol

[radiant geyser]

Yeah I tapered down now. Doot is making it more bearable

I do get the potions every now and then just for that extra kick

[atomic kiln]

the first tier artifacts are easy with miracle, but once u go eldritch its just a waste of gems

[bold quiver]

what doot has to do with that

[broken oar]

They see me Rolling they hating

[bold quiver]

u can use 10 omni without doot also and not lose anything

[radiant geyser]

Afk proc

[atomic kiln]

dont be a moron brave

[vestal delta]

"not lose anything" 😂

[bold quiver]

was trying to understand what doot had to do with making sailing more bearable haha

ive joined omniphau cult long ago

[thin rose]

I don't need doot, I got my ice pop

[bold quiver]

so ive beedn running 9 omni for a while

[radiant geyser]

Oooh that makes sense

[atomic kiln]

well, okay let me explain. it was a message to med that i would rather use my money on doot than miracle chests

[radiant geyser]

Yeah I got omniphau but doot came out when I was going to link my peeps over

[atomic kiln]

if i was in the position of spending money

[radiant geyser]

I stopped at my elephante to focus on lab again

[thin rose]

well I only get miracle chests with my free gems

doot costs actual $

[bold quiver]

u can farm infinite gems also =/

Every 1 key on a boss is equal 1,15 gems (if u use excess gems)

[thin rose]

I don't have a sugar daddy like prism to get doot

[bold quiver]

same :[

[atomic kiln]

im sure u can use the free gems better

[bold quiver]

but i have faith i'll get my doot with rngod help

[atomic kiln]

do u have everything ?

[thin rose]

hmm

prob not

[bold quiver]

yeah u should swap your BB to DK, not doing so is dumb

there is no reason to have 2 BB as the game stands

[atomic kiln]

i mean, over time u will get artifacts if u want it or not... but things that are permanent account upgrades from gem shop is a must to buy first

[bold quiver]

and first token swap is cheap

i doubt u dont own 600 keys from all bosses put together...

[thin rose]

nope

[bold quiver]

so just get keys from colo 3. 600 keys is 5 runs so 15 tickets

[thin rose]

600 keys is 5 runs

what

[atomic kiln]

that was 30 chests from the last island on 10 hours

[bold quiver]

u do w3 with dk, many keys gg

[atomic kiln]

ouch lol

[thin rose]

I strive to have a pirate army like this some day

[atomic kiln]

i never bought a single miracle chest bro

[thin rose]

yeah but you've also prob been playing 5x longer than me

:^)

[thin rose]

damn

[atomic kiln]

yeah, but it gets faster and faster, just have patience

[crude oxide]

Interesting how the other sailing problem pretty much goes unheard of

[thin rose]

I'm still confused on how brave would get 600 keys in w3 col in 5 runs

[icy quest]

Could someone help me do Cattleprod's quest

[atomic kiln]

what other?

[crude oxide]

Rememberable orb count ups your Dr, that effects number of keys in chests

The quick-esc

[vestal delta]

Dk orb gives you about 300% increased DR by the end of colosseum

[crude oxide]

Granted not nearly as bad as the gold bars but there was substantial time to make use of it

[thin rose]

I see.

[zealous niche]

No it doesn’t, it’s been brought up a lot since pet update

[crude oxide]

I must miss a lot 🤣

[atomic kiln]

the esc trick yeah i used it

[crude oxide]

I just meant in the sense there was no real reaction from lava about it or those that chose to use it. It was just patched out. That was it

It was interesting at least to see the tonal shift on the gold bug

[atomic kiln]

he knew about it and said it was going to be fixed in the next patch, he also adressed it was fine that we used it

[pallid quail]

Just hit w5, anything I should focus on first?

[near goblet]

Sit on rock

[atomic kiln]

lava hasnt said anything today? any mods?

get doot and ur done ;D

[thin rose]

[zealous niche]

The meta is to focus divinity until you get the second deity

[next locust]

16h until your doot gz!

[zealous niche]

Sailing and gaming are long term goals, the second deity lets you get characters out of the lab and active again

[thin rose]

never leaves my side

[atomic kiln]

long term:

[zealous niche]

I was more meaning that there’s no way to rush sailing or gaming that’s useful

Rushing second deity is useful

Rushing to get what though?

[versed cypress]

nop nothing yet and last actual info even from the mods was the message that lava is working on something

[zealous niche]

Pushing hard for what goal

[atomic kiln]

ahhhh this is worse than waiting on a major update... lava is probably just spying and laughing rn

[thin rose]

I was told to give it a few days last time I asked them

[atomic kiln]

u dont know that

[torpid oasis]

Ah nice

all 4 in a day

[atomic kiln]

knowing lavas ironic side... he is most likley just laughing while making a new update and some troll msg

[versed cypress]

dunno if he is doing that ill give the benefot of maybe he is working on stuff still but yeah its getting really bad with the lack of comunication

[versed cypress]

well its been a few days already but i can understandthe mods telling us that, hopefully whatever it is will be worth it

but damn we just need a little reasurance

[atomic kiln]

im starting to think he does it on purpos to keep us waiting cus he know we are and he thinks its funny

[zealous niche]

I hope not

[atomic kiln]

thats lava u know, its the first time he does a major thing like this, but he has done several smaller things in same path before

[green stone]

doot is beyond ridiculous though, I bought the pack and one lot of 4100 before looking in this chat, I figured I had a decent chance with that before realising that the more you roll the more expensive it gets, unironically that's just predatory

[versed cypress]

again the system is the problem, and yes it gets really bad the more it goes, the system doesnt have a way to limit spending and there is no way to properly guarantee f2p and paying players to actualy get the bonuses

the system is FOMO and predatory to the extreme

[atomic kiln]

thats what i did, i got doot abefore i spent the 2100 and i thought it was like that for everyone

[viral vigil]

Lava still hasn't said a single thing?

[green stone]

I didn't even get him after buying an extra pack on top, I don't mind spending money on this game but no guarantee even after buying multiple of the top pack is just lunacy

[atomic kiln]

thats true

[versed cypress]

i mean the game doesnt need doot or any other bonuses

its a massive bonus yes but its not a NEED

[viral vigil]

At least no one is complaining, lemme check the reddit

[green stone]

this is the most dumb defence I've ever heard

[viral vigil]

Whoa no complaints at all, that's AWESOME

[versed cypress]

but the problem is that the whole system paywalls the entire feature of the pets under a p2w bullshit

[viral vigil]

Nemu fren, why don't you make a constructive feedback post on the subreddit? I'm sure nothing will go wrong

[green stone]

probably easily doubles your progression speed, if not much more than that

[viral vigil]

Efaunt alone on all characters already boosts it more than that

[versed cypress]

i dont use reddit, and i have made plenty of critism here, a lot, i dont defend the update, i find it predatory as hell and one of the shittiest systems i have seen

[green stone]

the fact he literally has just abandoned the people who loved the game and played so much for a quick buck is honestly just disgusting, genuinely never saw myself giving the game up before this, now I couldn't care less and I'm certainly never spending another penny on it

[royal cliff]

I did the 12 mil gmush kills and am grinding death note with my blood berserker should I ditch lab for vman?

[nimble socket]

You buy the pack thinking it's gonna be 20 rolls (treat costs 100 and nothing says it rises in price) and then treat rises with tier, and in the end you get 12 rolls. You got robbed 8 rolls, that should 100% fall under scam

[viral vigil]

all characters on div
all characters on lab
all characters gaining efaunt
all character samples doubled
all minor link bonuses
400$

I'm legit wondering how we're not banned yet

[versed cypress]

not even 400, try like 1500 for a lot of ppl and som edidnt even get it

that is the prime mayor issue of all this

[green stone]

I find that so hard to believe considering how much he seemed to care about it at the start, I know there was the chips debacle etc. but that never really felt that bad, this is just beyond the pale

[viral vigil]

If you're quick at refreshing, you might get a glimpse of the subreddit posts

They are deleted SO FAST

[green stone]

honestly at this point I don't care if I get banned, will finally convince me to never spend another penny on any lava games, which is genuinely so sad

[versed cypress]

no pity system no way to guarantee anything, no way for f2p players to either gain the bonuses or farm the premium currency, this system is like one of the worse gacha predatory even when gacah was unregulated and starting

[fading cape]

technically quintupled. Arctis keeps you in lab and harriep is on.

[viral vigil]

No no its 6x

[versed cypress]

it is 6x

[viral vigil]

ur riht

[fading cape]

Toolbox seems to think sextupled.

[nimble socket]

And it's gonna get even worse once the last two gods get their bonuses 💀

[versed cypress]

yeah its been confirmed for a while that harriep and lab multiply each other

[crude oxide]

You got cons?

[nimble socket]

Crap, almost got the image, saw it for a sec

[versed cypress]

if al you are concentrated is the dr obols frag away, if youw ant to work on the slab obols id say just grab some push them all the way to dementia make sur they get register inthe slab then trash them as you continue with the dr obols

with DK orb talent he benefits a bit more from a cons set of obols than from a set of DR obols but its personal preference

skilling obols are farmed with a bubo farming liquid

cons obols are from w3 if i recall right so easy to farm in blood bones with a dk

skilling obols come exclusevely from the alchemy liquid shop

so they take a long time to farm due to the liquid shop scaling

[atomic kiln]

soon god rank 3 😄

[versed cypress]

yeah basicaly thr skilling obols you will eventualy farm them when you active bubo and it takes some days to get enough

most other obols you can easily just break into frags

[atomic kiln]

i never run out of frags

[versed cypress]

getting a cons set for dk a worship set for your ES are dependant on if you want to make that effort for them

[viral vigil]

damn fren did you follow the gemshop tierlist

[versed cypress]

everythign else is basicaly slab obols

yeah you can frag the gold obols from stats you can get by normal farming

[atomic kiln]

nah, i followed my own steps way before that list

[viral vigil]

based

[versed cypress]

th eonly obol that is stupidly hard to slab and get are the card obols cause those come from the premim packs only

[haughty cove]

what is these mean? i mean the reward what its gonna do?

[atomic kiln]

yepp

[versed cypress]

you get an extra 10 upgrades with atoms on your bubbles a day

[nimble socket]

Atom collider upgrade. Is to use atoms to upgrade bubbles with 100m+ material cost

[haughty cove]

ty

[haughty cove]

ty

[versed cypress]

if you put it on the DK you dont really need to give the DK a DR set to be honest

they give you more benefit by having the con set

[versed cypress]

DK has massive DR active already with his orb talent they dont need the set

same for ES thy already get massive dr for their portal mobs that they dont care for having a dedicated DR set

[nimble socket]

Btw speaking of that achievement, I held off the atom upgrade for a while, to see what happens if you get the achievement before the upgrade. Turns out you can't use them without it.

[versed cypress]

in case of ES you would want either a logging set or a worship set

[atomic kiln]

obols are a game changer

[versed cypress]

or a dmg set

[zealous niche]

Reasonable

[atomic kiln]

slowly getting there

yeah, but its kinda messed up.. some chars i havent focused on

[fallow pawn]

if i want to farm cooking clogs, is DK or ES better?

[versed cypress]

ES

[atomic kiln]

i use them on several chars

[summer storm]

anybody else not getting any sailing captain xp?

[fallow pawn]

so dk just for rare table drops right?

[viral vigil]

[versed cypress]

no DK is for crystal drops

[zealous niche]

ES is for anything on that specific mob’s drops

[versed cypress]

DK will still give you a huge ammount of rare drops fromthe base mob, but ES bonus is way higher than DKs

[whole sinew]

bruuh lost my 30% exp cog to death :((((((((

[solid python]

ok now that seems like a really solid one

did i finally get a decent captain 😭

[versed cypress]

but DK bonus only affects portal mobs while DK bonus affects every mob

decent indeed

[solid python]

W

[atomic kiln]

like my DK with obols dr

[fallow pawn]

ok so "rare drop" on purp mushroom is differently valued than rare drop table from crystals? in terms of dk?

[atomic kiln]

also this is with crystals cards

[solid python]

my previous best was 5 and 13 😂

[versed cypress]

yeah but youa re too OP zindre

[zealous niche]

ES only boosts the drop rate of its portal mobs

DK boosts drop rate in general

[atomic kiln]

thats also true

[versed cypress]

basicaly if the drop you want is in the mob card, you want ES, if the drop you want is in the crystal mob card you want DK

[atomic kiln]

i didnt need doot in the first place reallt

[zealous niche]

So if you wanted clogs or the rare drops from that bag the ES is best

[round elk]

ready to get one more frog tomorrow bois?

[versed cypress]

i wnt my free sheepie or ram please xDDD

[zealous niche]

Trading slime for doot

[fallow pawn]

sounds good, so es was the right right choice thanks

[shrewd nexus]

hopefully, last time i just got some ugly ass mummy thats got the worst %

[versed cypress]

given that if you get tier 5 treat you cant get white pets anymore... the first 4 pets might become the most needed trades for some xDDD

[obtuse rover]

No, because the droprate is 200x higher on crystal mobs, so it's better to use DK which can scale the DR on crystals.

[atomic kiln]

we cant trade yet, if i ever get a second doot, i promis i will give it for free to a participent in one of those spin wheel thingys

[versed cypress]

can i get a free doot xDD

[dense crater]

Where is the maccie constelation? I cant seem to find it

[zealous niche]

If we can pick people

It may be a trading board style of the offers and requests

[solid python]

wait im not supposed to have points in unending loot :?

whys that

[lyric sequoia]

ew DR obols on cons boys

[solid python]

am i expected to play every 2 hours or something

[zealous niche]

If you collect chests frequently enough them stopping in dock gives you extra chests

[versed cypress]

if you check saling constantly under 6h claims you dont want unending loot

[shrewd nexus]

full boats wait at dock without it 40 > 20

[versed cypress]

if you claim every 12h+ unending loot is your best friend

[solid python]

ok i dont 12h minimum

hahhaa

sometimes 24+

rarely

[zealous niche]

If you gain more than 40 chests in between checks it can be useful

[solid python]

so yeah ill keep it then

[atomic kiln]

he isnt in con

[lyric sequoia]

ew even worse

[versed cypress]

yeah if your sailign claims are long afk sessions then you want unending

[shrewd nexus]

yeah but, incase you didnt follow the math alst time 40 chests > 20 chests so dont use it

[obtuse rover]

Just snapshot con obols and swap to DR

[versed cypress]

if you claim sailing every 2 or 4 h thenyou dont want it

[zealous niche]

What

[solid python]

HAHAHA

ok sir that will not be happening

i dont even cut my sleep for responsibilities im not cutting it for a game hahahaha

[zealous niche]

Can’t tell if joke or not

[solid python]

im not THAT invested

its called an addiction actually i think

[obtuse rover]

I spend less than the cost of a doot each month to hire a team of IT specialists from overseas to check my idleon account for me while I'm at work or asleep so I can keep on top of my gains.

[shrewd nexus]

you shouldnt be using the talent even if your checking every 12 hours

[lyric sequoia]

That's a waste of sleep, 6 hours is a good frame so fill up chest and dock, assuming you've got all the treasure upgrades

[shrewd nexus]

the upgrades are not worth double chests

[obtuse rover]

This has been the meta

[solid python]

😂

[atomic kiln]

@lyric sequoia con

[solid python]

so should my 2 fastest boats be discovering new islands?

[solid python]

univer seman 2

[nimble yarrow]

when do you pick your chemical plants?

[solid python]

🤭

[atomic kiln]

very funny 😄

[obtuse rover]

When I hate myself and want to waste an hour of my life in the gaming garden

[round elk]

the best way to progress in the game is not by playing it 12 hours a day is to work 12 extras hours a day for a month and get a doot xD

[solid python]

lmao

[stiff prairie]

Is there a way to deactivate a shrine?

Because the "respawn mobs" one will interfer with rift every now and then and i think i goofed

[atomic kiln]

remove it

[stiff prairie]

i tried, i couldn't click it off

[atomic kiln]

use the star talent

[stiff prairie]

I'm probably just doing it wrong because i tried that

[versed cypress]

use the talent grab the shrine and move it to a place it cant be planced and it will disapear

[lyric sequoia]

Good lord finally... Back to fury I guess

[shrewd nexus]

what % was that at?

[lyric sequoia]

Was what at

[shrewd nexus]

your avg chest for that island

[atomic kiln]

the claim chance

i know mine is between 0,04 and 0,12

[shrewd nexus]

im currently rolling 0.1% chests for ancient fury

[atomic kiln]

it scales fast

[lyric sequoia]

0.34 for a base chest with nothing unlocked, chain got the base and ancient in 1 group

[stiff prairie]

I can't grab the shrines after they've been placed. i have to reselect them in the shrine arcitect skill, which doesn't remove the shrine

Maybe it's because of one of the sailing relics?

[atomic kiln]

he dooted it

[lyric sequoia]

Eldritch fury is 0.02 or 0.03 per base chest tho

[shrewd nexus]

ouch

[lyric sequoia]

Hence why I gave up after 5 weeks of non stop searching and went to fill out the rest of my ancients first

[atomic kiln]

i hope the leaderboard gets back up

[shrewd nexus]

maybe lave should just have sold eldritch upgrades if he wanted cash, would have gone down a lot better and proabably sold well

[atomic kiln]

doesnt have to include doot stats tbh...

[lyric sequoia]

Got 2 achievements out of that fucking lantern, good for bits

And a bit of damage I guess

If the ancient thing in the gem shop unlocked eldritch too I'd have been buying 2 of those each week for a while now

[atomic kiln]

sludger said he wont put the leaderboard back up

[low snow]

Soon it'll be a week 🙂

[lyric sequoia]

Lantern gave my DK 10b damage (or 5b per tier I guess), so that's nice

Not huge huge, but nice

[shrewd nexus]

*10000M b doesnt exist

[atomic kiln]

10b total? 😂

post ur full DK stats bro

[lyric sequoia]

10b extra from what he had before lantern yeah

[atomic kiln]

i need to be digged down under ur stats

[shrewd nexus]

what damage is needed to get to the last rift unlock (lvl 46?)

[lyric sequoia]

Got through it with about 30b minimum on my DKs and ES's

[atomic kiln]

are u afraid?

[lyric sequoia]

Of what?

[atomic kiln]

posting dk stats

[shrewd nexus]

ah nice, im stuck on the "clear the map before respwn one". ES does it no trouble, but couldnt on my SB or BB, ill need to work on my DK

[lyric sequoia]

Why do you care so much

[shrewd nexus]

im at around 20b so i guess its doable

[lyric sequoia]

Your numbers are bigger dawg no need to get your panties in a bunch

[atomic kiln]

i love too

lol

[lyric sequoia]

I don't play this game as a dick measuring contest

[shrewd nexus]

but hw can he whale on you if you dont show it?

[atomic kiln]

i do 😛

[lyric sequoia]

Do you have 2 ES? DK was definitely the easiest, but ES a close second

[solid python]

so should i just start purely skilling on my mman now

hes a bit low

number 1 in all except mining fishing woodcutting i think

[sacred verge]

he is very very low

[solid python]

no wait lab and worship too lmao

[shrewd nexus]

nah i ended up with 2 BB, might save for a swap token. ill workshop my DKs they kinda neglected. thanks for advice

[lyric sequoia]

Lab 27? I'd put him in lab or div for a bit first tbh, at those levels it's quite hard to get enough exp going to make levelling easy

[solid python]

hes been in div

i was taking him to 25

but im gonna need some catching and trapping done for progression

so i figured i might start there

need to finish w3 deathnote

[lyric sequoia]

2 bubos? Eh, even with doot I'd recommend 2 ES. There's more progression utility in a 2nd ES than a 2nd bubo

[solid python]

only have 1 and 2 done

it does take long

[shrewd nexus]

yeah but i made my chars when BC existed and was the best thing

[solid python]

my bb only gets like 30k k/h

and i dont have the candy to brute force that

[lyric sequoia]

I hope you mean bubo when you say BB and not blood berserker 😛

[solid python]

dont have time to active

no i mean blood berserker why would i say bb

[shrewd nexus]

ha yeah typod it, 2 bb no thnks

[solid python]

ive got a bit of a way to go

[lyric sequoia]

52 hours of sailing progress is too much sailing progress for 1 character, god damnit ombi y u no prof refinery D:

[zealous niche]

Not too long

[zealous niche]

sad elephant doots

[lyric sequoia]

MK obols are like real bad, why does that recommend them D:

The non-fomo shop ones anyway

[shrewd nexus]

are the obals flat or tier

[lyric sequoia]

Regular MK obols are base rather than per tier, so only a smalll boost

[zealous niche]

Flat

[solid python]

i have like legit 3 of these things haha

[shrewd nexus]

eh not worth it imo for flat

[lyric sequoia]

It also doesn't have at least 3 woodchips in that image, which are a vastly better use than respawn

[frosty pike]

its added after, not per tier :/

[fading dust]

What are the top 3 chips to gamble for?

[lyric sequoia]

Doublers

[solid python]

thanks for reminding me about afk gains bonus tho

i have sleepy cap and angel wings

they are on my mman i can move to bb for now

[fading dust]

Which doublers are the best? only got one roll hahaha

[solid python]

i always forget they arent just cosmetic

lolol

[shrewd nexus]

if you got one roll why does it matter? you cant pick

[solid python]

does basic attack speed have any effect on afk gain or only movespeed

[fading dust]

im a gambler but dont know whats good

[lyric sequoia]

card, trophy, starsign

[shrewd nexus]

if you get one thst looks like a cookie or a black one be happy

[fading dust]

card doubler seems good

More bonuses there than starsigns

[solid python]

do you mind if i dm you with some questions you seem pretty knowledgeable

[lyric sequoia]

Sat looking at a ship wondering why it has a 6 day travel time to fury island, realised that is the ship that takes the red cubes that I've just never got because I unlocked that artifact in like 4 chests lmao

[solid python]

but i dont want to trouble you

[lyric sequoia]

So it only has 2k sailing speed

[shrewd nexus]

so... is everything going to kick off again tomorrow when ppl get there free roll dont get doot?

[crude oxide]

Where was that t6 plant calculator, anyone remember? Can't seem to find it.

[bright current]

Nah probs not, cuz then people can just purchase some affordable mountain dew gems and try again

[fading dust]

fuck movement speed 10 % chip

i shouldve never gambled

[shrewd nexus]

10% move speed is not a real chip?

[shrewd nexus]

you learned a valuable lesson this day

[fading dust]

thanks gdog

imma farm up some more gems

[bright current]

does anyone have a funny png on the funny green gems btw?

[fading dust]

and do it all again

[bright current]

for no particular reason

[serene brook]

Just unlocked w5 with main pusher, but all of my other characters can't teleport to it? Do all of my characters have to puch through w4?

[lyric sequoia]

I'm gonna get my third doot, you mark my words

[bright current]

they need to be manually moved there the first time to be able to teleport

[serene brook]

Ah crap, thanks. Everyone is only halfway through w4 😦

[bright current]

they dont need to finish W4

[shrewd nexus]

w4 home to w5 home...

[bright current]

they just need to go thru the portal in W4 town

[serene brook]

Ohhhhh thanks so much!! Always appreciate the community being willing to asnwer questions

[patent surge]

What the ratio for the 2nf pages salts, when my green is 14? 14 7 4?

[shrewd nexus]

my altar has produced 0 div even after months, is it bugged like the alchemy cauldrons?

[wise wharf]

Which mode do you have em on?

There are some that only produce exp

[proud swallow]

is there a max amount of wood chips you can buy? because it went to buy this weeks and it said soldout....

[wise wharf]

Think you can only buy 1 each per refresh cycle

Should say when it refreshes at the bottom

[sacred fog]

witch one should I upgrade first?

[versed cypress]

you have to have someone sitting in the altar with a meditation style that produces divinity points for you to generate the points

[grand dagger]

do i max out main stat on turban with w5 stones?

[leaden epoch]

i think loot pile would be good

[proud swallow]

i know that , i meant like per account, you'll only be able to buy a set amount.

[sacred fog]

nice

[modern plaza]

lol why lava not talk about how dope the update is yet

[serene forum]

Whats the best shiny bonuses aside from shiny chance, infinity star sign, and critters per trap?

[serene forum]

Reached the point where i pretty much have 1/1 chance for every shiny and thinking about maining other shinys like meal, or something else

[crude oxide]

There's mk/tier shiny, bloque I think?

[versed cypress]

refinery speed is a good one as well

[lyric sequoia]

God 5 star cards have a god awful multiplier on them

[serene forum]

Which is better, Is artifact chance, multikill, or meal effect shiny

[zealous niche]

Why do you have to choose?

Oh I see, nevermind

Whatever you’re working on

[shrewd nexus]

probably best to cycle them all up to level 3 or something, rather than focus anything inparticular

[serene forum]

Trying to main one. But it seems some are more useful than others. I heard multikill one isnt that good. But never heard of meal effect

[zealous niche]

Shinies soft cap before 10, so there’s only so far you go before diminishing returns

Pick some and an arbitrary level before ten, then have them there until that level

You can put all of the ones you’re asking about simultaneously if you want

[lyric sequoia]

Get your fenceyard to 24 slots, then do 4 pets at a time, get them to llvl 5 then swap for the next

[fading cape]

For infinity stars to get all currently available infinities you need 5 of all and 6 of one

[lyric sequoia]

I got bored figuring out the "best" ones to level once I sorted shiny speed and star signs so going from top down

[vocal flower]

Dat exp tho

[manic elbow]

Progress so far on getting tier 6 mushies.

[fading cape]

noice

[serene forum]

Okay thanks. Might just main meal effect and skill efficency

[shrewd nexus]

you can better arrange your stuff to herd plants together, helps cactus radius

[fading dust]

y is choclatey chip so good

[manic elbow]

Ehh... once I get 20 mushrooms as soon as I get tier 6 I plan on getting the next plant to tier 6

[shrewd nexus]

75% to spawn a crystal when you kill a crystal, also that crystal has a 75% chance to spawn one when you kill it etc

[manic elbow]

I've got the kitsune rock on :p

[fading dust]

is that for maestro or something?

[shrewd nexus]

is your question basically"why would a shit tonne of crystal mobs have any use"?

[fading dust]

ya

im noobie so I havent gotten to that point of wanting to kill crystals yet

[shrewd nexus]

they will be 90% or so of your active exp on any char, and the drops are nice

[serene forum]

Pens also for pen farming

[manic elbow]

Lowers skill xp requirement to level up a skill by killing crystal mobs when using maestro/voidwalker

[serene forum]

Thinking of farming pens soon tbh. Not sure if im ready yet though

[fading dust]

fuck I got a potato chip

[serene forum]

4.75dr without cards on dk

Feel like i need at least 6

[vivid garnet]

Nah that’s ok

[serene forum]

Definitely need to reset post boxes and add dr box

And around 700m damage might wait till 2b

Not sure if multikill counts though

[shrewd nexus]

i wouldnt bother reseting, wait till you see how many pens dk gives you

[serene forum]

Average a day?

[vivid garnet]

Like per few hours maybe to start

[shrewd nexus]

several hundred

[serene forum]

Hm dosent sound bad at all. I could probably max boxes in a week

If i can get at least 800 a day

[lyric sequoia]

Assuming you have the resources to spent the pens

If you're not flush on w1 resources then spending 100 per day is the realistic thing

[serene forum]

Pretty much can greenstack most resources is that enough?

[shrewd nexus]

im assuming thats trivial by w5, but maybe not if they rushed here

[serene forum]

Im probably okay with 100m right?

[shrewd nexus]

lol doesnt sound like it will be an issue, watch out for copper bars thou

[lyric sequoia]

100m what

[manic elbow]

20/20 mushrooms. Now I wait.

[modern plaza]

right with atom collider it just easy daily boxes no effort

[frozen prairie]

the day that my nugget gets higher than 4k

probably scream and piss

[manic elbow]

I was at 4k before I got my 20k multi

I almost threw my phone 😅

[modern plaza]

i just want chem lol

[manic elbow]

Same o.o

[lyric sequoia]

The collider auto pen is actually bad

[shrewd nexus]

i got 13k, 26k 1nd 33k all in the same session

[lyric sequoia]

It doesn't take into account any free use rolls or boosted box chance from sailing

[modern plaza]

makes it so i don’t have to click on my mailbox at all lol

[shrewd nexus]

its a nice end game feature when your stacking that 1000,000 box, but yeah is better to click them through by hand if ou can be bothered

[lyric sequoia]

100 auto pens is 100 boxes. 100 manual pens is 270+ boxes

[modern plaza]

ofc turning in resources is always better

[manic elbow]

At least you still get your cards from the trapping rift bonus. Sucks though when you're aiming for shinies.

[modern plaza]

no dispute to that

[serene forum]

You dont get shines from trapping rift bonus?

[shrewd nexus]

can you dispute it a little? i enjoy arguments

[lyric sequoia]

If you've not maxed all the boxes that aren't myriad you want to leave that bonus at either 0 or 1 max, otherwise it's just wasting pens. Doesn't even take into account the bonus boxes from streaks

[modern plaza]

gosh maxing out all PO boxes must be so nice

[manic elbow]

Do the bonuses from the sailing artifacts that increase chances to double your PO box gains additive or seperate?

[modern plaza]

haha it’s more efficient on a clicking standpoint 😄

[serene forum]

I need the first order mat rotation tbh so i can prepare

Not showing up on wiki

[modern plaza]

i get a bigger dopamine hit when i open the mailbox and see there’s 1000 boxes to spend

[manic elbow]

If it's additive you get a 150% chance at an extra box if it's separate you have 3 separate instances and a chance to gain 4 boxes from one delivery.

[modern plaza]

instead of watching it go up 1 or 2 at a time while knowing i’m losing resources

[lyric sequoia]

It's additive with all sources of extra boxes

[manic elbow]

That's unfortunate 😕

[serene forum]

Post office sounds easy to max just dont have autopickup

[shrewd nexus]

good point

[modern plaza]

yeah you get what 40% more if you dont break streaks. and then bonus from sailing gives 75% more or something

[manic elbow]

Getting 4 extra boxes in 1 go would increase dopamine.

[fading dust]

what are the best cards in the game?

[modern plaza]

this is true i’d like a couple 4s

[manic elbow]

If you have the eldritch form of those artifacts then you have 150% more chance to get more boxes

[modern plaza]

but i do need better pen production. that i am lacking

dk on oranges?

[lyric sequoia]

Shove choco and crystal cards on whichever character you're active with, some is better than none

[shrewd nexus]

i like dk on w2 first map, cause statues as well

[modern plaza]

wish i had choco 😦

[shrewd nexus]

pens kinda just happen while you statue farm around

[serene forum]

I heard bloodbones is best for dk

[shrewd nexus]

w1 beans, w2 sand pots, w3 the skelton things

diffrent world, diffrent statues

[manic elbow]

If only water had the extra function to give cycles to a random plant per droplet if your garden is full...

[lyric sequoia]

Guess I got my anvil capacity up a bit

[serene forum]

Sounds dootish

[manic elbow]

Dang almost got a green stack in capacity

4.14m to go :D

Also the ending number....
Nice.

I wish I had doot.

I've got teh Ram.

Still nice to have a global chest

[chrome tiger]

What governs anvil capacity again? Just material bags?

[manic elbow]

Too many items?
Not any more with your pocket chest.

[zealous niche]

Still need capacity for crafting, I also wonder if you lose items from picking up a stack larger than your inventory capacity

[manic elbow]

o..o 20 days to go

So, question: if you have a doot pet you're connected to all the gods?

Absurd o.o but amazing

Keeping the Ram pet active tho if I ever get doot since it's adorable >.>

[shrewd nexus]

we should stop talking about how good doot is. we need to convince ppl its terrible by the time trading comes out

[manic elbow]

By the time trading comes out there's probably gonna be several people with like 50 or so Doot's

[opaque sun]

Then that means we dont have to worry in our lifetime

[manic elbow]

XD

[fathom lagoon]

Yo no word from lava?

[shrewd nexus]

frog is def the best pet, but im a generous person so willing to trade it for doot

[leaden epoch]

so generous the mr beast of idleon

[zealous niche]

Can check #💖future-content-blog and #patch-notes📝 whenever you’re curious

[serene forum]

To bad only p2p can trade

[cursive flare]

Gib laba munny, number go up

[solar sphinx]

ok, other than the current lengthy afk period(i just logged back in gimme a break), what AM i doing wrong in this that needs catching up? i feel like i'm at a bit of a wall to get more damage and money...
https://squishytm.idleonefficiency.com/

[cyan granite]

I somehow feel like this just “blew over” and lava won’t do anything abt the doot situation

Only me or anyone else feel that

[lunar reef]

Just wait for a response

Regardless of what he says things will explode

Such is the way of the internet

[dapper prism]

Could have at least done the basics like getting ur books and doing minibosses before posting 👀

[crisp wave]

he will change identity and make another game like this

[solar sphinx]

i forgor

[dapper prism]

wrong reply

[crisp wave]

yea sry

[crisp wave]

either way

[severe maple]

some of your damage stamps are just waiting to be leveled

[dapper prism]

I want to go through your IE honestly, but you really didn't do the bare minimum anywhere. Could have just gone through each page 1 by 1 and done the basics quickly...

• Do minibosses with DK, remember to stack your dr orb before spawning them to max your loot.
• A ton of your stamps are very low, barely worth talking about it, you have 1b copper ore stored bu stamnps at like 40 that cost like 50k or less.
• Loot your anvil, do the basics before posting. Also a ton of those day timers for your anvil seem huge af. Be sure to buy daily whetstone w3 store and max out speed. 5 chars arnt producing something.
• 70/70 arcade balls unclaimed.
• Both Squire Refinery skills arnt on CD, same as 3D print.
• 80% of your 3D prints are empty. Just sample the classes skill stat (mage = wood etc) and use vman for mob drop samples inside void with the mk buff. will make insane samples. (after killing w1-2 bosses)
• Ton of your Death Note is super close to the next tier, but hasnt hit it, so you're losing out on MK/Tier because stuff like glublin is 4.88m/5m etc.

[summer finch]

[crisp wave]

https://69_xd.idleonefficiency.com
This is my profile what should I do?

[dapper prism]

Small W5 Divinity tips/guide:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

• You have Divinity gods like Goat, yet everyone is on bear/snake. Guess you're pushing for w3 daily key atm? If so why not nobi. Also get w2 daily key
• Sailing, u have a ton of gold bars, get an extra captain/boat, early on each one is great

[crisp wave]

Im greenstacking book checkouts

[severe maple]

all the green ones are ready to level and you have materials and money to upgrade

[crisp wave]

Thanks for actually opening it, but it was mostly a joke

I havent opened the game to play for quite some time

[dapper prism]

Please at least get your w1 daily boss keys.. Even w2 should be very easy/quick to do :/

[crisp wave]

i retired

[dapper prism]

Then at least clean up the very basics before posting the IE

Honestly, it's a bit annoying when people want feedback on their IE but don't do the minimum.

[crisp wave]

I must be having like 20 stamps

[solar sphinx]

thanks for all this, btw!!!

[dapper prism]

#1087257720043876372 message

[solar sphinx]

ill keep the stuff abt cleaning up before posting in mind oops

[dapper prism]

When people don;'t do the bare minimum, it's 99% the same issue/stuff they need to change

[severe maple]

😄

[dapper prism]

I am proud of you and your 0 library book.

https://tenor.com/view/hat-tip-gif-11048773

[crisp wave]

Not these. The discount 90% stamps

[solar sphinx]

also i didnt know stamps were that powerful so ive been neglecting them for...

probably since ive started w4--

[crisp wave]

Generally cooking was very strong for me

Stamps helped with everything

But cooking and alchemy were bigger MVPs.

Just remember to buy new bags xD

I remember bags softlocked me on some stamp levels

now its easier too

just be careful with the anvil materials

casue some of them are being used by chips etc

Dont use something you need

For example I never break a greenstack

Or if i feel i might need these mats, i dont level that stamp

[dapper prism]

Good Keys, Book, and 0 boosted runs, good constellations.
i like.

• Could easily unlock a bunch of Anvil points with resources if you need/want.
• Finish up that Drop Rate obol set you got on family then 1 for character (just a side goal)
• 200+ unspent PO boxes on most chars, Dont do "Fight" do what will help you on the grind. Such as Crystal Rate (drop) or Mana for CDR to get your obols easier/faster leading to more pens for more PO boxes faster.
• Try and get your breeding done, with Snelbie you should be able to unlock all spices.
• 3D prints could use some work.
• Check your Alchemy Tab, look at the arrows, do NOT let NBLB (free bubbles) hit easy/low cost bubbles Like EXP (GT) or mob drop ones that are cheap. You want nblb to hit stuff that's hard to grind and keep up with.
• Don't touch sigils until all bubbles are done, this will be super easy once you active bubo CC.

Also Remember to only upgrade bubbles with the proper class.
Orange bubbles when online on warri, etc. Yellow doesn't matter.