lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[atomic wing]

At this point he'll be lucky to not be cussed out enmasse as soon as he pops up

[hexed crescent]

Maybe that's why we haven't heard anything from him yet - he wants to 'clear out' the negativity first

[high hearth]

This isn't the sort of thing you wait out. You face the music and then the negativity fades if you handle it well.

[hexed crescent]

I feel like the negativity has already faded considerably over the past couple of days

[lunar reef]

Versus the first day it's pretty tame

Even steam reviews kinda reflect it

[summer finch]

It's hard to keep the energy up.

He's just waiting out the fire.

[high hearth]

It's simmering now. People are unhappy, only takes a spark to set it back to burning again.

[summer finch]

🤷

[cobalt oriole]

The most negative people have been banned or left of their own accord

[high hearth]

Being negative is absolutely no reason to ban someone.

[hexed crescent]

True

[lunar reef]

It is for lava

[cobalt oriole]

Steam reviews are probably more a case of "you can only make a negative review once" so everyone who cares enough to do it has already done it

[high hearth]

Yes.

[cobalt oriole]

It is funny tho that the "gambling" tag got removed finally

#endgame-gen-chat message

[kind shore]

Ain't sure tho

[cobalt oriole]

if you set it to be your own tag it will still show

[high hearth]

I was mostly just annoyed by Doot itself, full of things we've been wanting, being paygated. And not just a one-time purchase paygate of say, 10 dollars which would be fair. Means we won't get those things any other way. But the removing people who disagreed really just tanked my opinion.

[kind shore]

Ah must be it

What will be even funnier is the switch from mostly negative to straight up overhelming negative because of the 24 not being counted anymore

[cobalt oriole]

This is what I see

[kind shore]

And that for probably a few weeks

[atomic wing]

That'll hurt him some at least

[cobalt oriole]

Yeah idk, I feel like the thing about doot is that the effect should have been like, a w6 buff, if I could buy the doot buff for $10 it'd still feel pretty bad to me just from a game design perspective

[kind shore]

The whole update and how it's been handled as been an exemple of how you shouldn't treat playerbase lmao

[cobalt oriole]

it's a fine buff once we have other stuff to micromanage but I'm annoyed at how it overwrites an ES skill

[stiff prairie]

And at this point, if he nerfs doot, there would be a riot.

[hexed crescent]

I personally won't feel bad for those who endorsed this update with their money

[frosty pike]

doot should have just given all characters an extra god connect, and guarantee a new companion each week. would have felt much better

[shrewd nexus]

yeah there cant be any roll back/nerf at this stage, too many whales paid for an advantage, he cant take it away without losing his money farm

only possible middle ground would be to not rotate after 10 weeks, would remove fomo and maybe not anger the whales too much?

[kind shore]

Already has happenned tho, don't think he's one more
Thing is if he removes whales will stop spending, which is the majority of spender and his income so he'll never do it

[lunar reef]

Daily spin on reset, problem averted

[stiff prairie]

Theres no real way to reverse the state of the game rn, the damage has been done, the most that can be done is a band aid like improving the f2p accessability to companions

[lunar reef]

Getting all things before reset would be a lot more reasonable with a daily attempt instead of weekly

Still a problem mind, but a more reasonable one

[summer finch]

I feel bad for the ppl who don't know any better. I don't feel bad for the people who are to narrowminded to see other people's perspective and badmouth them. Though honestly that applies to both sides. People got way too heated/obstinant to have proper discussions on the matter before the great yeetening.

[shrewd nexus]

feels like that would anger the whales that bought into it on the understanding it was weekly

[stiff prairie]

Or make it a guild upgrade theres 2 unused slots

Make it like guild gifts, but companions

[summer finch]

mfw still no guild box trophy

[shrewd nexus]

yeah, i was more awnsering the theoretical of if he decided to fix it is it even possible

[civic hornet]

in a few years you'll get the "should I make another update for that game, you remember? A final one?"

[hexed crescent]

I don't think thats true. Guy seems to have a big ego and I suspect he did this out of spite (obviously knowing he would get paid in the process)

[stiff prairie]

Hell, make killroy have a 40 skull companion pull

[shrewd nexus]

i really dont think its true or fair to say he did it out of spite, lets call it what it was, a calculated money grab

[summer finch]

Fair. He does other things out of spite 😔

[kind shore]

If he cared about legal bases he would have done something better, I'm 90% sure the game can be considered illegal in some countries such as belgium with the new update and the lack of tags

[stiff prairie]

At best, its a bad miscalculation. And worse its an intentional cashgrab

[hexed crescent]

He has been getting some negative feedback on the god thing, it's not like he have handled negative feedback well in the past, so completely denying the spite theory seems far fetched

[civic hornet]

in belgium it'd be illegal, regardless of tags, just look at lost ark

but since it didn't "release" (although it's still "early access") in such a format, I don't think it'll be banned in the end

or maybe just for new users, but I doubt that'll happen

[kind shore]

Yeah same for netherlands from what I've read, I think it needs to be reported as such tho, not sure

[shrewd nexus]

that would be such an abused loop hole, that id have to imagine it doesnt work

[stiff prairie]

Just a wait and see moment.

Im hoping for at least something tomorrow, a week after companions, but im not expecting it

[civic hornet]

mhm, I don't get much into legal stuff, but imho it doesn't sound too farfetched.
and anyways, damage has been done, only thing you could do is damage control, good luck keeping a game out that's hosted on a website (theoretically the ip could just change the whole time)

[bright current]

tomorrow is day 6 lol

[kind shore]

Will delete game tommorow if no update, guy's just been running it to the ground, don't wanna waste more time on this

[shrewd nexus]

i dont think he intends to comment until tensions die down, which i mean isnt great, but also isnt the worst idea. he would only be pouring vodka on the flames at this stage

[stiff prairie]

Oh yeah, i keep thinking its Friday

[civic hornet]

mem leak from wiz also seems to have gotten worse 😂

[young blade]

Hey guys I agree with all that I see here so just remind to keep respectful towards him, keep criticism to the game and the decission without attacking the person behind directly

[civic hornet]

anyways, I'm off

[fervent flame]

the fact he hasnt said anything is the worst thing, its not hard to just let us know what he plans

[civic hornet]

tbh it was a conscious decision

for most things he leaks some pics or tries to hype the update

this one was total silence

[kind shore]

Other than saying he has a big ego and is greedy I don't think there's been such a thing as attacking the guy

[stiff prairie]

Even a quick "i messed up, a fix is planned soon" would've done

[bright current]

sort of correct. thats assuming he isnt gonna try to make this better in any way, which he isnt lol

If he by some chance genuinly wants to step it back somehow, waiting this long to even acknowledge it is the worst idea imaginable. good thing thats not the case

[fervent flame]

it just feels like hes waiting for us to forget about it

[civic hornet]

also calling people out because they should not "attack people" depends on pov and how you choose to interpret wording

can't make communication safe for everyone

[young blade]

Yesh of course, i'm just not a fan of going hard against people directly. The guy had an exploit a weeks algo, and maybe he's just figuring shit out as life goes as we all do

I expect an apology and a rectification

And I'm sad and mad, dont get me wrong

[civic hornet]

don't expect anything and you won't be disappointed

[bright current]

i wouldnt get ur hopes up

[civic hornet]

anyways, really off now, have funsies

[shrewd nexus]

there isnt a realistic way to wind back/nerf without majorly annoying those that paid, so at this stage its kind of stuck. since he cant really take action on it, not commenting is not a terrible idea

[bright current]

yea but if he was in anyway remorseful of how he handled it, he would have acknowledged it by now. even if theres no way to actually fix it in the short term, he doesnt have to provide a solution in that scenario

but he almost certainly meant to do it like this

the only thing thats still odd to me, is why the actual shit did he stream the launch. it OBVIOUSLY wouldnt go down well

[fervent flame]

if i had to guess, hes begrudgingly making it slightly better

[young blade]

Nah, I'm mad and sad because I like the game and the community behind his games and this update could fuck this all up.
He's not pointing a gun to anyone to but this shit so if people lose money on this its their problem. Did he fucked up the game with the decission? For sure

[shrewd nexus]

i mean it seems 100% intentional, he realised there was too many free blue gems around, so made a new currency, somewhat ironic after giving us 500 gems and an easter event

[bright current]

if you like the community go to the banned discord, cuz thats where most of the big names are now lmao

[shrewd nexus]

how do i find the band discord? also im 50/50 a lot of the more annoying people seem to be banned

[young blade]

True

[bright current]

its okay im still here

[young blade]

Also would like to know about the banned dc

[fervent flame]

can you send a link?

[coarse parrot]

Same

[young blade]

Not in here just in case

[coarse parrot]

Mods already writing down names lol

[bright current]

my formal statement is that i am not allowed to discuss this topic here

[whole sinew]

he will milk the fomo then just abandon it. calling it

[kind shore]

I think so too

[shrewd nexus]

...so can you tell me the banned discord, just so i can be super sure to avoid going there?

[young blade]

I understand the decission and apreciate your respect for the rules

[coarse parrot]

You should definitely not send me anything about this discord, especially not the link or some other means of access

Lavagod2

[shrewd nexus]

kickbot.... hmm seems like a trap

[young blade]

Totally suscribe that

[kind shore]

Right you shouldn't send the unique code in the invitation somewhere accessible

Nope

[young blade]

Yesh you totally shouldnt do that

[kind shore]

Just so you know there's no log for deleted messages, that shit became illegal some time ago, a modder enabled it and the guy got sued

[bright current]

i definately should not, and would never tell people to check their DM's

i respect the rules of this discord and do not wish to promote other discords of outlaws here

[fervent flame]

i definately did not receive the link you sent

[bright current]

i have no idea what you are talking about

ive never met this man in my life

[fervent flame]

who are you? what are you doing in my house

[coarse parrot]

How did I get here

[fading dust]

When do unlinks reset

[bright current]

on your weekly reset

[young blade]

Yeah at the same time as other stuff

[fading dust]

Great thanks

[young blade]

I usually check It on gems

Idk why

[fading dust]

I got harriep, but it still used up an unlomk

[young blade]

Unlomk

[bright current]

when u get a new god ur unlink resets

also u get 2 per week now

[fading dust]

Oh

[young blade]

Yup

[bright current]

only good part of the update

which doesnt even matter if u got doot lmao

[fading dust]

Kinda happy about sheepie ngl

Just got card stamp while im farming cards rn

Real nice

[bright current]

to be fair, the companions ARE new content

oh no im losing them

ahhh

[molten kayak]

gotta have that single div change so the update isnt entirely just a gacha system

[bright current]

we finally got what we were askin for, more unlinks

wow

[coarse parrot]

Who needs unlinks when you have Doot?

[bright current]

[coarse parrot]

Oh cool, spellcheck finally recognizes Doot as a proper noun

[atomic wing]

Who needs like 10 percent of the game when you have doot?

I'm just salty cause I'm dootless

[maiden blade]

mantra is 1 exp for everyone even if not doing divinity?

[bright current]

ye

[fervent solstice]

Yes. But just an FYI it only counts full hours and nothing in between. It also doesn’t benefit from double exp effects like biggie card etc

[maiden blade]

ah ok, would you say its worth it?

[stiff prairie]

Is it best to have all chars use mantra or all but 1 and rush 1 of them to lvl 40?

[fervent solstice]

I choose to do vitality instead because of those two things with only slightly smaller exp and since it gives points also

[coarse parrot]

Depends on if you’ve got some characters who won’t be diving

[atomic wing]

Proceeds to double cost of green gems

[coarse parrot]

Might be worth Mantra to get your non-div people to the passive one

[maiden blade]

i see

[fervent solstice]

The only use case for mantra otherwise is having someone on vitality and having everyone else on mantra

[stiff prairie]

People in w5 have people not in div?

[fervent solstice]

Pretty slow but yea

But it’s an equal amount of time in terms of man-hours

[atomic wing]

Most of my guys are over 80 div

[fervent solstice]

Whether you do it on a few, or all

[coarse quartz]

does anyone got what to start maxing first for atom collider?

[hybrid halo]

Boron

[atomic wing]

Is that the no bubble left behind one

[fervent solstice]

After you get tranqi

[hybrid halo]

When a bubble has a cost of 100M or more to upgrade, you can instead spend particles. However, you can only do this 38 times a day, after which the cost will return to resources.

[coarse parrot]

I got all the implemented gods, put my fellas on tranq, and haven’t touched div since

[coarse quartz]

ah okay makes sense i was also thinking of maxing helium or getting it higherlvl for same reason

[hybrid halo]

Helium gets expensive real quick, got mine to level 5

[coarse quartz]

ah yea makes sense didnt see the scaling

[hybrid halo]

688K for level 6

[vernal iris]

bruh unlocking vman just gives you every map cleared by your highest character + 2m kills on him when you do your first speedrun?

[versed cypress]

fucking finaly geeze coudl have been better but its a freaking start

[vernal iris]

cause my boi was so far behind

[vestal delta]

why is unending loot bad for sailing?

[ember kite]

Why is someone telling you that it is

[vestal delta]

I checked "the spreadsheet" and it strongly recommends against it unless you're afking 24 hours +, but I don't understand why it would be a negative...

[atomic wing]

So the worms at the end of w5 1 shot me initially, now they don't?

[ember kite]

checking every 2 hours (current max speed for boats) is better than letting your loot pile up for 40 hours ect.

[atomic wing]

So are the worms at the end of w5 kinda like the blood bones of w3? Way beyond everything else

[versed cypress]

unending loot i smostly used for when you only claim long afk sessions 10h+ that wy you wont realy lose loot from boats just sitting on your dock, its also a matter of how much you are checking vs what you want, if you are tryign to gain artifacts, you want as many rolls as possible so unending loot is not th ebest option

but wheneve ryou want actual loot from the chests, or you are goign to be away from long periods of time unending loot is much better

[vestal delta]

that makes sense, but let's say I check every 2h, would having unending loot actually reduce the sailing gains vs. just not having it at all?

[ember kite]

no

[versed cypress]

no

[ember kite]

passive better loot per point invested in the talent

[vestal delta]

ok, so they're mostly talking about a playstyle type of thing

[versed cypress]

if you check ever 4h you might lose some, i fyou check ever 6h then yes

between 6 and 10h checks you are probably losing from havign unending anything over 12h+ claims unending will grant you better loot but less chests

[vestal delta]

ok I think I get it, thanks :)

[ember kite]

level it up manually

[glad ibex]

Does anyone know why i didnt got the achievement?

[ember kite]

not no bubble left behind

[glad ibex]

Ah ok tyvm

[opaque sun]

the achievement was made before nblb was a thing

[versed cypress]

np, if it gets a bit confusing just follow this rule of thumb, if you claim less than 6h you dont need unending loot, if you claim more than 12h you need unending loot

[deft grail]

Yeah they're definitely a defense and gear check, would recommend getting the FMJ Bubble, defence talent, and Chizoar or greater gear. Using a DK on the map first is good since he has the best defence options of any class.

[ember kite]

Back in the day I made a maestro defence build for the peanut boss fight

[deft grail]

Also worth mentioning that Unending Loots synergizes well with Captains that give +%Rare Chest Chance.

since you're banking a lot of hours anyway might as well proc better chests

[bright current]

how did u make a MMan without an MMan 🤔

[deft grail]

Cheating detected!

Please Doot to continue

[ember kite]

The same way I have a journeyman trophy on my Elemental Sorcerer

[versed cypress]

yes and no, you get better chance to gain higher loot to stockpile once they have maxed the chests, but once unending loot triggers the chests stockpile look based on a % of the chest that would have came in and add it to a chest, once the loot ammount passes a certain point the chest upgrades to the next tier,

[ember kite]

It just works

[versed cypress]

i wonder how much you have to claim to actualy create a miracle chest xDDDD

[bright current]

equipping it before choosing class? u got 2 MMans?

[ember kite]

If it's a quest to get maestro and I make a build for the quest
It's a maestro defense build
even if it's on a journyman

You can make a boss build without being a boss

loot build without being a loot

;/

[bright current]

ill make a wizard build on my warrior tthen

[ember kite]

ok go ahead

you didn't think that through

did you

[bright current]

weapon doesnt = build lol

[opaque sun]

so bubo is basically a vman

[bright current]

Vubo best class

might reinstall just to level my 10th guy up finally

get him green gloves and then make him a wizard

[ember kite]

Wand dosen't*** = mage weapon or part of mage build then ethier I guess

Go tell harry potter he aint a wizard harry

[bright current]

[ember kite]

I'm willing to respec. my div knight just to prove a point

you want a mage I'll give you a mage

[ebon olive]

anyone has the guide to cranium farming skill placement wise

[bright current]

respec him with what? mage talents?

[ember kite]

Mana wisdom ect.

[ebon olive]

!bubo

[bright current]

but those are also useful to warriors

[bright current]

lemme check 4 u, 2 secs

[radiant geyser]

!fullguide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk

[radiant geyser]

Thats has builds for each if you don't know what to do yourself

And you can adjust and tweak as needed

Always starts from the farthest tab on the right

[dapper prism]

CC, rezz, aura, fart, gas, on very multi-platforms u want aura later

[bright current]

left to right on ur bar

CC > rez > aura > ghost

[bright current]

ghost is usually enough on its own i find

[dapper prism]

Not early game

[bright current]

tru

[dapper prism]

Depends on their dmg and also the map

[ebon olive]

for citringe?

[dapper prism]

citringe is so flat and small* aura should basically be enough

[ebon olive]

got it

thank you so much guys

got 6 auras

[dapper prism]

Never have the blue thunder ability on your bar btw

[bright current]

nah do it, its funny

[ebon olive]

removed everything per your instructions

[hybrid halo]

Switch Rez with aura on tremor worms

[dapper prism]

Reason is some abilities can only be casted on an enemy, like blue thunder thing. So your bub would be stuck on it until it hits something with it, and wont use insta rezzz and stuff

[hybrid halo]

No?

[dapper prism]

Idk i'd never move rezz further back

like, why would one want to slow down respawn

[bright current]

give it extra time for mobs to catch up

theres SOME use case to it

but difference is very minor

but usually u want rez first

[dapper prism]

idk i've tested a few things previously and rezz just always came out best. (i guess as always, probably depends on dmg etc too)

[ebon olive]

only got 400M

so i'll stick w that for now

[bright current]

does ur poison 1 hit the mobs?

[vestal delta]

anyone have tips for getting class lvls on vman? it's soooo slow compared to everything else

[ebon olive]

no

[opaque sun]

crystal farming for any class levels

[vestal delta]

any particular good w4/5 maps for it? just the flat ones?

[dapper prism]

i dont recall what my dmg was during testing but now pretty suer 1 shots

[opaque sun]

vman actually on the faster side to level due to way more crystals

[dapper prism]

XP nearly always the furthest map possible, highest world/zone. Focus on Crystal spawn + active xp rate

I like these cards, doubling crystal:
https://i.imgur.com/HjeQofa.png

with choco, xp goes vroom

[opaque sun]

Mman doesnt really care with map layout

[dapper prism]

couldnt farm wurms, had to do 2nd last zone on vman but took like 1-2 days from 300ish to 400

[opaque sun]

Its not like he got shockwave

[vestal delta]

I'll give it a shot!

[bright current]

I have reinstalledd to make a cursed character

how do i unlock auto on

i went back to town and i have it now lol

[vestal delta]

I kind of feel like I do dong for damage, what's a realistic DPS to be aiming for?
https://i.imgur.com/5GZOGCv.png

oh shit I forgot skillage, nvm

#respec problems

[signal osprey]

If exp is your main goal I'm pretty sure doubling moonmen card actually averages out to more exp per hour than doubling the poop card. Genie is still the 1st priority assuming only 1 card doubler

Also there's an event card with active exp as well which you would want to include in the above card set if you have it

[hybrid halo]

Don’t crystal mobs give more xp overall?

[opaque sun]

the active exp amplifies the exp of crystals

[hybrid halo]

Good point.

[signal osprey]

Keep in mind thats also for pure exp only

For most farming doubling both crystals is better

[opaque sun]

Usually its best to double the two of the highest, than double a highest stat and double another with lower magnitude

[vestal delta]

is active xp a multiplicative modifier? I lucked out on a C.Kattlecruk card and it gives 40% xp vs. like the 9% active I have from the event ghost

[opaque sun]

yes active xp is a separate multiplier

[vestal delta]

ok so probably better than the flat 40%

[opaque sun]

That is why kattle and efant sucks to use up a slot, but moon moon and flies are good

[vestal delta]

gooootcha that makes sense

actually baited by bigger number 😂

[opaque sun]

ghost is kind of in the borderline of “that stat category is good, but the magnitude is bit too low to spend a slot”

[signal osprey]

If I'm not mistaken the moonmen gives 48% at 5* which doubles to 96% with the lab chip so that card alone nearly doubles your exp gains

[vestal delta]

that sounds pretty cracked

right, guy is setup...bit better than last screenshot 😂 thanks for the help

https://i.imgur.com/P2YIAt0.png

[bright current]

mans needs better gloves lol

[vestal delta]

waiting on snowflakes 💀

[patent surge]

[signal osprey]

Mine needs better gloves too

[patent surge]

update

[floral garden]

Stupid w5 gloves recipe won't drop

[vestal delta]

dude the active exp cards...I'm getting like 5% per crystal

[bright current]

shud i make funny punch wizard have green gloves for % damage, or purple ones for % style?

[opaque sun]

magma glove wizard with maxed flask talent, later turned to bubo is meta

[bright current]

too late

behold

the cursed wisard

[hybrid halo]

I got around 18K seconds more of alchemy progress using Rez>aura so I guess I’ve been doing it wrong

[signal osprey]

I still haven't made W5 gloves for my vman but you better believe if there was a way to get them on my bubo my ass would start farming hampters asap

[hybrid halo]

Haven’t even gotten the recipe yet

[bright current]

my vman has em but i cbf farming hampters

i just wanna make this guy a bubo and log off again lmao

[hybrid halo]

It does show up as a drop on the slugma card, does that mean it dropped at some point? I remember it worked like that with w2 recipes.

[bright current]

if u can see the recipe in the list

you dont have it

[opaque sun]

The icon lits if you obtained any recipe with same thumb nail

If its completely gone, you already redeemed it

[hybrid halo]

Oh right. I missed the part of not seeing the other obtained w5 recipes.

[fathom lagoon]

Yo

No update?

[opaque sun]

we probably need to suggest lava to blink his eye once for “no” and twice for “yes”

[signal osprey]

If he hasn't made a statement by now I doubt he will until the next update assuming he bothers to make a statement at all

[sweet mountain]

is there a way to filter out the drop of the crystal monster stamp card? It keeps cluttering my inventory when I leave my game on to farm kills.

[vivid garnet]

Isn’t that from a quest? Just abandon the quest for now

[vestal delta]

just complete the quest

[vivid garnet]

Or that too

[vestal delta]

it's the piggy at w1 pop frogs

[tight ridge]

is this the last bubble?

[vestal delta]

yup

[tight ridge]

lets goo my first last bubble xD

[pliant sluice]

Does doot work for all characters yet?

[tight ridge]

i should remove all chars from the cauldron now right

[vestal delta]

if you have lvl 170 or whatever on cost reduction

[tight ridge]

theres a max?

[vestal delta]

170

[fiery burrow]

So, in Gaming, do I leave the cactus on the screen to get it's bonus or does the bonus activate when I harvest it???

[tight ridge]

do the other ones have max

[vestal delta]

yes, but they're basically irrelevant now that you have all bubbles

[signal osprey]

Even cost reduction is kind of whatever now too

Lower cost means it takes more to get to atom range so it kind of cancels itself out

[tight ridge]

well its at 77 so i can get a good chunk in it

imma put my chars on other cauldrons for now to get all bubbles unlocked

[real surge]

im at world 5 and am working on divinity when can i go back and level up my lvl 90 scrubs

huh

but it feels sort of wrong

[dreamy merlin]

Once your w5 do whatever you want tbh,enjoy the game

[signal osprey]

Just get doot and skip div altogether

[real surge]

i feel like lvl 15 divnity is going to take forever

[vestal delta]

your div will get faster as you get more upgrades across alchemy and stamps (from deeper into w5)

so if you care about time effectiveness, grab more div xp instead of rocking that sweet 1xp per hour 😂

[real surge]

i feel like im super far behind in everything

[vestal delta]

def worth catching up then now that you're in w5

just keep on top of gaming + sailing while you do your other things

[tight ridge]

i put 7 on divinity

1 active char, 2 catch up chars

[real surge]

oh that sounds good

i think im gonna deviate for the night to get lvls

for my 10th char

[tight ridge]

and id alternated them based on what goals i meet with them

[vestal delta]

if your lab rats have enough line width to connect to the end, put them on div until you unlock the bear, and they can be div rats instead

[tight ridge]

when you get mantra it feels good cuz they still get xp which is nice

oh yeah i got them all to bear first though^ having everyone on lab is awesome

[vestal delta]

also when you get far enough into sailing, there's also a bubble (pious at heart, purple#23) that gives huuuge div exp

but even before then, you can upgrade it to like level 5?ish on a mage for free with 90% cost reduction

[umbral tapir]

Daily check in: any update or news?

[vestal delta]

it's like 20 or 30% free exp at that point

[zealous niche]

You could just look at #💖future-content-blog

Or even #patch-notes📝

[dapper prism]

what do you mean "yet" it always has, no?

[pliant sluice]

I saw a lot of bug reports saying it didn't work.

[strong nova]

you need login all chara first after unlock pet to enjoy benefit i believe,

[umbral tapir]

Totally fair, but I don't follow other of his social media. Just making sure that he didn't update anywhere else.

[fading dust]

!merit3

[obtuse orbit]

Put 1 point in Telekinetic Storage.
General path: Max Respawn rate --> Talent books --> Sample size.

If you only have 2 food slots, put 2 points in the build/food merit after Respawn rate, otherwise max it after Sample size.
Put 1 point into the salt merit. If you want to push refinery ranks, put points in as applicable. Otherwise, after Sample size.
Max Telekinetic Storage after everything else.

[summer finch]

[iron nymph]

did anyone else get automatically refunded

[placid mural]

How much did you get refunded?

[iron nymph]

$37.03 cad which was the price of the gem pack

I just randomly have it sitting in my account again

[grizzled elk]

What did you purchase on? Steam, mobile, etc..

[iron nymph]

steam

[opaque sun]

My steam wallet seems still empty so i guess not

[hybrid halo]

And you haven’t requested a refund?

[iron nymph]

Nupe

might just be a visual bug with the new steam ui idk

[lament lynx]

actually i just checked i have minew refunded as well

[hybrid halo]

I see. Surely you’d get a email about a refund?

[rotund gull]

No refund on my steam account

[grizzled elk]

Nothing on mine either

[opaque sun]

which if it did come though, im just going to buy the gems again

[iron nymph]

weird

[hybrid halo]

This is either a meme or the start of a redemption arc

[opaque sun]

FOMO refund to bait for a next mtx

[vestal delta]

oh I also have my steam credits refunded

[opaque sun]

“This new pack seems shady as fuck, but i might get refunded again like last time!”

[vestal delta]

redemption arc? 👀

[hybrid halo]

Being optimistic

[tender pine]

If I get 2 Divinity points per hour, does that mean I get 1 every 30 minutes or 2 every hour?

[opaque sun]

Ill just check again later as it might be one transaction at a time getting processed

[molten kayak]

ayo

[vestal delta]

i last paid for something the day after release and I now have stream wallet back

wait a minute...

[cobalt oriole]

hmmmmmmmmm

[hybrid halo]

Look in purchase history

[vestal delta]

ah yea, no refund. looks just like a steam visual glitch

[round elk]

But you asked for a refund? @vestal delta

[vestal delta]

no

[round elk]

Ummmm

[vestal delta]

sadge, hopes for redemption arc just decreased by 90%

[round elk]

Redemption arc is not happening that way

If it happens

In my opinion the only way it happens is that the pets can be obtained like the chips, but like after a few months after they are out

That way whales can spend and the average guy can still get the pets after a few months

[vagrant mountain]

I've spent more on chips than doot and I still don't have choco chip

[round elk]

Why didn't you craft it lol?

[vagrant mountain]

I only been playing like a month

is there a schedule or something

[vestal delta]

well you're in luck, the next choco chip is only 6 months away KEKW 😂

[vagrant mountain]

yeah that's why I'm buying chips 🙃

[round elk]

Damm buying chips is rough

[vagrant mountain]

21 chips dry atm

gotta get it next one right?

[round elk]

Nope

[vestal delta]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ohtWMLT4NzBuVyqcXoEvkCMPXuYGWrRWUAmBOTdZCrQ/edit#gid=1945859978

[round elk]

It's random

[vagrant mountain]

yeah it was a joke

[cobalt oriole]

There is a schedule

[vagrant mountain]

honestly think rolling doot is easier than rolling specific chip

[cobalt oriole]

Good luck ever getting the specific one you want tho

[radiant geyser]

The good news is that you'll still use those chips one way or another

So it's not a complete waste

[cobalt oriole]

Wooo 10% defense gooo

[vagrant mountain]

need choco chip for crystal farming 🙃

[radiant geyser]

Hey at least it fills a slot for that achievement in W4

[vagrant mountain]

hehe yes

speedrunning that achievement

[radiant geyser]

Yup

[cobalt oriole]

I think .83% or whatever is still lower than 3.7% (there's 27 chips right?) but I understand what you mean

[radiant geyser]

I'm just waiting on my Nutto issue to be fixed so I can go to Vman. Then I'll go back to skilling

[cobalt oriole]

At least you can recycle paid pets you don't need

[radiant geyser]

So for now I'm just playing FFXVI

[vagrant mountain]

at least I'm not gated by 7 rolls a week

[cobalt oriole]

lol

[bright current]

atleast u can use earnable currency to buy chips

[radiant geyser]

Let's be real. The jewel buy is the real gem here.

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

Well aren't you all chips off the old block

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[vagrant mountain]

the earnable currency equates to 1 roll a week lol

[bright current]

not even remotely close

[vagrant mountain]

I can maybe make 500~ gems a week but I feel like that's because I have a lot of quests I can do still

[vestal delta]

you can still make 500+ gems per week even without quests, there's a few yt videos about it

just a little bit sweaty

[vagrant mountain]

at the same time, I'd rather buy 500 gems for $2.50

[alpine ferry]

is it worth to sit in divinity only with 1 character?

[vestal delta]

if you have nothing better to do, might as well. they don't really affect eachother until level 15 anyway. quicker you get to 5 on each character the better

[leaden karma]

does this mean all the exp will go to my beast master only and the others wont get exp?

[empty glade]

No it means each character that placed a Trap will get thé XP from it

[leaden karma]

ohhh good, i thought my beast master would get all exp since technically he's the one who put all the traps

[empty glade]

He's thé one collecting them but not placing em since u gotta use each character to place its own trap

[honest spoke]

The silence is so loud

I was having fun until the patch now I’m contemplating if I should find another game

Any good suggestions

[leaden karma]

you can now place on one character for all traps

[hybrid halo]

Idle skilling?

[honest spoke]

Beat idle skulking to broken literally can’t hit w1 first mob

[hybrid halo]

I’m surprised no one really talked about idle skilling. Pretty much the same thing happened there with after realm.

[empty glade]

If thé hunter is thé one that placed em all then i'd assume hé gets thé XP then, if u want your other characters to get thé XP then ig you gotta mainly place em all

[opaque sun]

use vman to place exp traps, use BM to place critter traps

[honest spoke]

Place traps with maestro for exp, and hunter for critters

*vman

[opaque sun]

Only thing each individual need to do is have royal trap to get maximum number of trap slots

[radiant geyser]

If you place the exp traps with Maestro/Vman for the first column, everyone gets their fair share of exp

And then M/V's row as well with exp so he always stays ahead

[fervent solstice]

It just lets you use the snapshot of Hunter, but for other char

Why would the rift be shitty

[tulip quiver]

Finally a response from lava:

[dapper prism]

Yay my 2nd t6 plant 😄
https://i.imgur.com/PPmN220.png

[tulip quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-okay-thumbs-up-melt-lava-gif-9214446

[true obsidian]

still no update from Lava?

[opaque sun]

Time to downdate

[dapper prism]

Anyone know if there's any real hard/soft cap on crystallin stamp?

Wondering what the best option is to use my 95% discounts on

[true obsidian]

definitely not Crystallin stamp

[opaque sun]

crystallin, multi tool, food effect, gold food effect, w5 stat stamps are some options

[true obsidian]

use it for skill eff/multi tool or carry cap

gold food effect too, since you can farm ton of it now

[scenic comet]

does this skill actually work afk or just active

[dapper prism]

yes afk works, but remember each login the max bars it can make is based on ur ore capacity in furnace

[scenic comet]

wont the automated arm fix that or no?

[dapper prism]

the auto arm then refills all the ore upon login ONCE, so it doesnt mean if u afk for e.g. 10 days that u will get a shit ton, it would be same as 1 day, or honestly in most cases barely an hour

[scenic comet]

that a little shitty

thanks for the info sir

[dapper prism]

No, the auto arm only refills it once empty, so in easy words:

If capacity is
10k Ore for 1k bars
You will make 1k bars, no matter if you are afk for 5h, 50h or 500h. On login it refills

[tulip quiver]

better than nothing but that’s not saying much lol

[dapper prism]

basically at end game u can login every 2-10mins on ur SB

[tulip quiver]

does it trigger on a candy claim?

[dapper prism]

Not 100% sure but i think it does?

Someone go test it xD

[fervent solstice]

It does

[tulip quiver]

I haven’t logged in in like two days

[scenic comet]

i would but i just used all my candies chowing

[dapper prism]

Also if u candy, remember to loot ur anvil

[fervent solstice]

Just remember to claim anvil items and soul charge

[tulip quiver]

And worship

[scenic comet]

i always forget worship.... that would be nice automated

[dapper prism]

Just level all alts properly and ur storage will be good enough for weeks

[fervent solstice]

As long as you don’t let it get above the max you don’t need to micro it

[languid vapor]

Should i put my characters in divinity now or wait till i get all the divinity bonuses first

[fervent solstice]

What

[scenic comet]

unless u have doot how are you getting div bonuses without puttin them on the altar?

[fervent solstice]

Oh you mean bonuses to get more dog points/exp?

dog….

fucking phone

div points

[iron ravine]

Doot moment

[scenic comet]

id say chuck a few guys in personally

[fervent solstice]

Depends where you are yea

[scenic comet]

but im kinda new but thats what i did

[fervent solstice]

Get to bear

[dapper prism]

get to goat

[fervent solstice]

Then get dog artifact from sailing

[main raven]

come back in 32-33 business days

[fervent solstice]

Div

Then go for goat etc

[languid vapor]

Yea srry for confusion

[languid vapor]

LMAO

Just stop at goat?

[fervent solstice]

Also, you can look up the divinity bonuses on idleoninsight.com

[languid vapor]

When should i go past goat

[fervent solstice]

Wait till you get some of the better stances/ancient artifact

[languid vapor]

kk

[fervent solstice]

Then go to purmeep etc

[scenic comet]

there isnt much that boosts your div xp gain besides the gods / sailing arti and like 1 stamp right?

[dapper prism]

es talent

food

[scenic comet]

food works with that?!?!?!

[fervent solstice]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=(divinity (gain|for|points))%7C(gives.*divinity)

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/IocOAog.png

lol bear me to it

[fervent solstice]

Can search a lot of stuff on that site has presets on top right also

[scenic comet]

why am i only seeing this sight now😭

[dapper prism]

your promp so complicated o.o

[fervent solstice]

Preset

[dapper prism]

i just do https://idleoninsight.com/?search=divinity ex lol

[dapper prism]

It's on the !guide sheet

[fervent solstice]

There is one for exp also

[scenic comet]

i only recently just started using this discord

[dapper prism]

Dont focus on divinity XP when unlocking gods, just stay on level 10 stance for 4 pts. until you get more exp buffs:
https://i.imgur.com/cly1B2R.png

once ur exp multiplier gets a bit better thats when you can probably push for some better stances

[scenic comet]

ive already unlocked elephant and am not farming points atm just got a few chars on mantra passively lvling all my guys

[dapper prism]

Mantra? or TranQi ?

[scenic comet]

will push for the last couple when everyone has better styles

[dapper prism]

pretty sure mantra doesnt give u xp if u arnt on div

[vagrant mountain]

just hit w5 😀 do I shove everyone into divinity now or what

[dapper prism]

and if u care about xp then in most cases vitalic will be better than mantra

[scenic comet]

yeah only like 2 of my guys have vitalic so far

[dapper prism]

Yes, all on divinity, once u get to bear, you can take your main pusher (probably Bubo > ES/DK) out

[dapper prism]

Ah okay

[scenic comet]

but mantra does work all my guys been lvling up div passively

just using the guys in labs to have mantra on with the div linking god

[vagrant mountain]

okey

[scenic comet]

while i got you here i have a sailing question

so im on like island 9-10

ive unlockedmost of them ancient

but my guys are slow to get chests while im boosting speed whats the best method to get higher % chances on chests

[low snow]

Quick check in on devs sleep schedule

[dapper prism]

NEW TO W5: (DIVINITY) (My opinion)

All Characters go on Divinity!
Yes, this is annoying, but toss everyone on divinity, take a quick break until you get bear (arctic) god.
You can be active on 1 char, preferably after bear
(If you only have 7 alts, get to at least 8 or better 9+, more alts will help a ton)

Divinity Notes:

• You can unlink your gods twice per your weekly reset
• Unlocking a new god will reset your unlink count
• When Unlinking, you must click all alts you want to unlink at the same time in the UI, then hit the unlink button.
• When trying to unlock gods, there's 2 options, a lower % and higher %. Each failed roll has a chance to change these %
• Safest bet is to use the lower % (left) until a 100% shows up on the right and go for that
• Once you have Yellow Alch bubble 24 (Chance to not consume div points) it may be more efficient to always use the lower % one. (optional)

**TO DO: Place all characters on divinity altar. **

• At Level 5 Divinity: Change stance to Chakra
• At Level 10 Divinity: Change stance to Focus (Stay on Focus until core gods are unlocked)

GOAL: Unlock Gods, you care about divinity points, not really XP. The only time divinity points will be better than Focus (level 10) will be Zen (level 60) and Mindful (level 80).
Even if you aim for XP through XP stances like Mantra (level 15) or Vitalic (level 25), you will not get to level 60 in time for the main gods you want (with your current low XP multipliers). Therefore you will be more than halving your points/gods progress for no proper reason.
Check what each god unlocks here: https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Divinity

GUIDE - A step by step: While keeping the above in mind!
Your gameplay changes once you unlock Bear (Arctic), Insect (Nobi) and Goat (Goharut).

1 - You unlock Snake. Can link to it, won't do very much right now. Wait for Bear
2 - You unlock Bear. This allows linked chars to be active in lab. (No lab XP, but gain the node benefits)
3 - Depends: This is the step where you can now remove your main from divinity for W5 pushing, or you could rotate your alts and grind out some xp/levels. Alternative, stay on divinity until Nobi (next god).
3 - A) If Active pushing, use Bear(s) on all.
3 - B) If Offline pushing, use Bear(s) on all except Pusher, use Snake.
4 - You unlock Nobi. (Once Nobi, use Nobi on main pusher in Step 3A and 3B)

Nobi is a game changer, 2x kills. This stacks with lab node 2x kills, making it 4x kills.
Can rotate around main pusher (Nobi) to alts to gain XP.
The next 2 gods are Bunny (Harriep) and Goat (Goharut). The main goal would be Goat for the next game changer.
Goat allows alts that are active in lab also be active on Divinity (both gaining XP!)

Unlocking more gods may get hard without the proper multipliers. To get through bunny, goat or higher you will want and need more divinity point multipliers. God Blessing bonuses (Snake, Bear, Bunny) or PO box have % div gain and Artifacts "Ashen Urn" from Island 4 (cloud 3) Rocky peaks and later "Jade Rock" from Island 7 (cloud 6) Toxic Bay.

5 - You unlock Bunny. (Can link ES talent to it)
6 - You unlock Goat. (Big game changer)

Depends on line width and lab levels, try and get all lab nodes:

• Move 5 or 6 alts to lab, with Goat. (They will be active in both lab+div for xp/pts)
• BB can be Bear, while in kitchen for laddles. (Nobi when chow/zow)
• Main(s) / pushers (Nobi) to unlock w5 zones easier for higher XP. This is a good moment to rotate out alts for xp for more Talent points to max out those Gaming, Sailing, Div talents on 2nd DK/SB/ES.
• Bubo is the most important to get to last zone W5, rest is "irrelevant", needed for CC + amazing money.
• SB Nobi gmush
• Situational: Can change Divinity stance for XP, I'd say wait until you get to tiger. You still care slightly about the next 2 gods Elephant (Omni) and Tiger (Purrmep). But they arn't as huge of a game changer like previous gods. They still help!

[lilac vapor]

Is there a secret boss in world 5?

[lilac vapor]

Or just get doot and all gods are active. (Insert derp here)

[dapper prism]

A bit situational:

• Depends on things like Captains etc.
• Don't send all boats to the same low islands. Else you are wasting your speed potential of your fastest boats.
• Your fastest boats should always be going to some of the highest islands else you get stuck.
• Captains should be Speed and/or Loot talents.

[dapper prism]

Still want to unlock the gods for their upgrade passives, plus levels so the minor is better

[scenic comet]

would u reccomend claiming often or letting sb talent build up?

[dapper prism]

DO NOT USE SB BOTTOM LEFT TALENT

[scenic comet]

oh?

[dapper prism]

Unless you login like... once a day if even

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[scenic comet]

i do login once a day but it seems like it would be more beneficial for those that dont?

[zenith fiber]

The secret boss is gacha.
Very hard to beat

[dapper prism]

Basically, with SB talent, especially the more boats you have the worse he is

For me I have:
30 Loot pile
20 Boats

With SB talent i only get 29 chests. (with a slim chance to upgrade one)
Without SB talent I get 50 chests. 50 > 29

[scenic comet]

so the chest upgrade just isnt worth missing out on a couple extra chests

[opaque sun]

Bluntly, using the SB talent gives you more exp while not using it gives more chests

[dapper prism]

Yeh guess the xp can be fine at times

It's a hard one to balance

but if artifact hunting, more chests > xp + potential to upgrade a chest

Forgot about this weapon, last upgrade 🥳
https://i.imgur.com/Hi3sNqT.png

[scenic comet]

damn hampters

[dapper prism]

yeh, stacking em for the bags atm

5/10 cap bags done, (6/10 with those leftover ones there)

[scenic comet]

i just started farming em and im up to like 20 😂

[dapper prism]

Just dont farm them to early

New weapon got me to 200b dmg 😄
https://i.imgur.com/l3R3LzU.png

[scenic comet]

jeeeezzzz

[dapper prism]

My 3.5 month progress 👀

[scenic comet]

youve only been playing 3 months?

[dapper prism]

3/11/2023

[scenic comet]

how do u get that much dmg in that time wtf

[dapper prism]

I like to min max

Always asked questions before I was even close to unlocking new content/worlds

Also, (only like 1.5ish month+ in) i started to Active farm overnight which is a huge game changer.

As a comparison,
Level 300 to 352 on Bubo took 4h 8mins Active.
AFK the same level would have been 35 days.

[vagrant mountain]

ty I'ma save this

[scenic comet]

still wild though i been active farming es bubo sb and dk for like a month

and my dmg is nowhere near yours

[vagrant mountain]

Im just about 1 month in

[dapper prism]

Yeh fresh W5 is a little bit boring at start due to the afk div. also check our chat a bit higher about SB talent bottom left.

[dapper prism]

Also what you can do a little if you need (depending how many character slots you have) is to do some active w5 farming 1 by 1 to get their levels up. Don't forget to accept the quest in zone 1. XP rate each next zone gets a huge increase

[vagrant mountain]

I hard pushed W5 lol, only have one character that can kill suggmas

I have 860 total

level

[near goblet]

No doot was mentioned in the past 5 messages, the chat chat is healed?!

[vagrant mountain]

this is w5 chat

go to gen chat

[near goblet]

Id take that if it wasnt all doot the past days

[vagrant mountain]

I found out you can hide channels, I have gen chat hidden 😆

[primal bison]

Doot is by far my favorite update

[vagrant mountain]

way less fud in these chats

[near goblet]

Yeah hiding channels helps

[vagrant mountain]

yeah I like companion qol but I'm a bit of a dolphin/whale

[bright current]

QOL?

[vagrant mountain]

quality of life

[bright current]

i know what it means

do you?

[outer fox]

🧢

[vagrant mountain]

bubble and ram QOL

[bright current]

ram is QoL

[vagrant mountain]

doot qol

[dapper prism]

?

[primal bison]

Doot goes hard fr

[bright current]

doot is NOT QoL

QoL is easy of access

not straight acocunt buffs

[near goblet]

I dunno why people call sheepie and doot QoL, they are literally buffs

[primal bison]

💯Doot💯

[bright current]

"buying gems and getting every gem shop item is my favourite QoL feature"

[vagrant mountain]

zzzzz you know what I mean let's not turn this into a doot chat

[obsidian flicker]

its qol because you dont manage swapping gods anymore but its also a straight buff

[bright current]

nah lets honestly

[bright current]

those 2 things oppose eachother

[primal bison]

Only the realist got doot yerd

[vagrant mountain]

have a good night guys enjoy your doot echo chamber

[primal bison]

Lava the sexiest man alive for adding doot not cappin fr

[near goblet]

Considering how good his anti cheats are.. if we get a full p2w gacha game

[bright current]

ah yes, the good anti cheat

[primal bison]

Ima throw a couple bands on this game one fiddy why not we goin up

[near goblet]

I probably shouldnt mention any of this topic further least I get hammered

[bright current]

idk who you are, but i like the cut of your jib

it is (i think?) but that doesnt mean the pets it can buy are lmao

[bright current]

sorry, 'buy' here meaning 'pull from loott boxes'

[near goblet]

Only thing secure server sideness solved is that cheated pets cant go in trades, they will exist definetly

[bright current]

im informed that pets manually cheated in are not flagged as untradable

[zenith fiber]

Yeah lava didnt have enough room for all his money, so you know what he did.

He took down a wall because nothing stands in his way

[bright current]

so trading will be a shit show as it stands

check out my cursed wizard i made today. he was a silly little lvl 1 beginner ide left on div for months this morning

thats unrelated to doot

i just like him

[near goblet]

Awesome name

[bright current]

my favourite Vman

[outer fox]

Link idleon efficiency

[outer fox]

Or 🧢

[bright current]

i bought the bundle on launch soon as i logged on. didnt realise how scammy it all was till after

[outer fox]

Way more realistic

[true obsidian]

Does cog quality scale with cons lv?

[bright current]

i was never affraid to throw a bit of dosh at the game. untill this happened

[true obsidian]

mean higher lv = better cog

[dapper prism]

Lol, you could even just check my discord messages and filter by old, see how many questions i already asked on day 1

[true obsidian]

still, 4500 gems and good looking wing, i accept that

[near goblet]

Tbh I was like, 'I get the pack, hopefully I can get most stuff below rift, maybe even one of The purples too! The wing and some gems were extra so id say it was good enough for me

[bright current]

Im a simple man

i saw a pack

i bought a pack

hadnt even read patch notes

[near goblet]

"I saw I bought I complained"

• idleonners

[true obsidian]

@dapper prism i saw your IE, you really need to upgrade alchemy...

[dapper prism]

It's a lot higher by now

[bright current]

ive genuinly been a staunch lava defender up untill this update

[outer fox]

@dapper prism not only that, then sigils don’t lie. 😂

[near goblet]

Wasnt that green gem thing a bit weird

[outer fox]

🧢

[dapper prism]

What?

[bright current]

i didnt een rly read the pack lmao

[near goblet]

[dapper prism]

Bubbles now after i camped active bubo for close to 2 weeks:
https://i.imgur.com/i9ipGcN.png

[true obsidian]

you have all vials now? i saw you missing hampter and bloat vials

[dapper prism]

yup, all now except ball pickle

[bright current]

I wish u the best of luck

[true obsidian]

2 weeks? you really need to care about your alchemy more

[dapper prism]

Yeh, getting hampters atm then back to alchemy

While checking out vman samples every now and then to try and get mob drop vials to 1b

[bright current]

cardinal fucking sin

[true obsidian]

i don't know what time is this but if you got this and reach what you post in 2 weeks, you slower than Lava respond...

[dapper prism]

That IE push is from 10 days ago

[bright current]

collect ur fuckin arcade

[dapper prism]

lol, yeh my main goal during the push was to level water rate first:
https://i.imgur.com/Xa5Nf9z.png

(thats with lab liquid)

[true obsidian]

and 4 in sigil

why you need push water rate when you have bubo?

[dapper prism]

Makes bubo even more efficient

Rate first, now it's double than what it was before at least. Thing is, i was going to do an extra week of actual bubo while doing bubbles more and not liquid rate, but havn't been able to active enough to make bubo worthwhile

And since water fills up within like 30-40mins if even it isnt worth it if i can only check every 4-8h atm

[bright current]

oh yea

well im working on green stacks

so far so good

[dapper prism]

So ES became the priority for Hampters right now

Some day right?
https://i.imgur.com/GxMe7NO.png

[true obsidian]

if you can only check every 4-8h hours, why you raise water rate...raise water cap, or just leave there, lv up bubbles first

[true obsidian]

nah, still bubo, leave hampter for afk char

[dapper prism]

Water rate was barely worth the return, would cost 1-2k and only netted me around 8 extra water per slot. Meaning i'd have to hit the max of that water 200x just to break even kinda thing, so i've had lab liquid cap off and better rate, which decently fills up.

[opaque sun]

No real point to man liquid

[true obsidian]

i know i have 2 bubos, gonna change the 10th char soon

[opaque sun]

Thats just wasting potential sigil hours

[cerulean wasp]

Is lava really said that?

[true obsidian]

you need all your cap you have, water cap always needed

[atomic wing]

It's not fake

[opaque sun]

Just check “from:” with lava and you will see

[bright current]

idk, he has the tendency to delete his messages

[dapper prism]

Yeh and as said, i was planning for another week of bubo,but at the end math wise it would not have been efficient for right now. after this weekend ill probably return to bubo

[opaque sun]

Like its still there

[atomic wing]

This channel is becoming a regular channel again, got to post memes to remind people why we're here

[bright current]

nah no reacc u can have a full size one

[opaque sun]

#1119655394285998182 message

[dapper prism]

I still don't get that pic. it's so random and just doesn't really seem to make sense

[bright current]

i enjoy it

[opaque sun]

getting it the sexual way sounds like a simple STD

[near goblet]

Lava irl

[bright current]

except i stole it from a terraria shitpost

what WILL beer brewers think of next.

These MF's made a fuckin Tim Tam flavoured beer

those crazy hipsters

[near goblet]

Since I started playing terraria ive been seeing too much terraria memes

[bright current]

seems pretty worth it now

[atomic wing]

Looooooool

[outer fox]

Last sentence is a double negative. He meant it’s worth being scummy

[opaque sun]

following the “many” is a wise decision

[atomic wing]

Trucido you need to put a lava skull on that gif

[bright current]

i aint doin that. everythin im makin is on native samsung editing shit cuz im fuckin lazy

[hybrid halo]

I suppose we kind of should have seen it coming when auto loot was introduced.

[near goblet]

What does auto loot have to do with this

[hybrid halo]

Not available to free to play?

[bright current]

I find this funny in light of the current state of things

cuz u KNOW he was genuinly considering it

and it wasnt a joke

[atomic wing]

I don't expect full effort meme for lava. Actually lazy as possible meme

[steady token]

is this dmg bonus additive?👀 i wan to know if i should go greenstack mob materials or to farm hampter

[atomic wing]

That's why he's been talking about free updates lately

[near goblet]

Coping over an 5$ purchase, cope harder

[bright current]

if you can do it in a timely manner, its worth it

[atomic wing]

I'm coping over doot atm

[near goblet]

Everyone is

[hybrid halo]

I bought it. I’m coping fine. But in my case experience, it was the first thing that make people quit.

[bright current]

i mean, i can see the 100% F2P arguement for auto loot. but it DID provide quite a lot of value for the money

even if it was just $5 for the function its worth (a lil annoying u gatta pay, but still)

but it came with other shit too

[hybrid halo]

It still was the first real p2w implement.

[bright current]

yea

i agree

but also

[near goblet]

You can Always introduce a weaker/slower auto loot in f2p obtianable ways though

[bright current]

like ive said about this entire thing, its really about tollerances for it

[hybrid halo]

Should’ve make it purchasable with gems. The blue ones.

[bright current]

nah

new red gems!

grape flavoured gems

[near goblet]

Next update from lava: removed gems and inventory bonus from auto loot pack, increasing price to 40$

[bright current]

auto loot now a .1% from pet gamble

[near goblet]

Forged from blood of the f2p

[atomic wing]

Trucido, this u?

[bright current]

nah

im a dolphin at worst

[atomic wing]

I have bought every special pack, what's that make me

[bright current]

im happy to splash some cash at a game i enjoy for something i want. im fortunate enough to have some disposable income is all

[atomic spoke]

hellooo 🙂 has anyone made/seen an atom collider tier list? (like the one for the gem shop)

[noble mesa]

Just go by order

[atomic spoke]

but for leveling them up?

[noble mesa]

And upgreade some on the way

[noble mesa]

Unlocking

[atomic wing]

How long would this take

[thick arrow]

has anyone ever seen that tool that looks at your cogs and helps show the best way to set them up?

[dapper prism]

I can show you mine xD

[noble mesa]

Upgreade the staff u need the most

[near goblet]

Cogtimizer

[dapper prism]

https://monoblos.github.io/cogtimizer/

[noble mesa]

Depend on total progres

[dapper prism]

Mine atm:
https://i.imgur.com/IRAVXqR.png

[atomic spoke]

also this ? https://github.com/automorphis/Cogstruction

[dapper prism]

At the end of the day, most cogs are irrelevant, since all you want to max is having a ton of XP cogs.

[bitter finch]

Are there any good updated salt levels charts? The calc i use wont let me input a third null salt level and im trying to see what i need to aim for.

[thick arrow]

i just learned that today, ive been building it all wrong lol

[dapper prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1121152659437666437/salt_ranks.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1121152659769020436/salt_ranks_2.png

[thick arrow]

and thank you

[bitter finch]

Thanks. That pin was removed feom the w3/4 chat

[dapper prism]

yup

[dapper prism]

Yeh all you should care about is xp cogs, most important are directional xp cogs

I mean, still have the regular directional stuff from afar, check !guide stufdf

afk

[thick arrow]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

Here's a guide with loads of essential information about the game. Obols, Pets, Gems - all of it! Check it out!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[opaque sun]

Exp (levels) are the best source of build speed

[zealous niche]

What sort of print amounts do you need to sustain that top infinite salts?

[lament solstice]

It took about 5 months for me (from the release of W5)

[solid python]

best class for solo w1 dungeon?

i never get enough drops to summon 4th boss even tho first 3 bosses finished with like 5+ minutes

either some trick i dont know or bad rng

[ashen marsh]

when should I click on the shovel?

[near goblet]

Whenever you can

[sweet mountain]

Squire/Holy Knight or whatever their name is.

[near goblet]

Divine Knight

[agile pagoda]

So uh..... anything new regarding Lava and his new update?

[ashen marsh]

Is there an optimal time when I should click on it?

[near goblet]

As soon as possible

[ashen marsh]

okay

i only got that much

[agile pagoda]

Uh.... is it normal that my Vman with better equipment, better stats, better skills has 4k less hp than my journeyman with no skill points invested?

I don't remember him having hp so low... and either way it doesnt make any sense

[near goblet]

That shouldnt be normal

How about the Star Talents

[agile pagoda]

nope

[sweet mountain]

Every hour I would say, but that's not realistic. You get your first nugget in 1 hour, then the second nugget takes longer. So Every hour is the optimal choice.

[near goblet]

Ah forgot to mention that

[sweet mountain]

I would say star sign. the one that reduces life by 80%

[agile pagoda]

.....dammit you are right!!!

That's it!

[near goblet]

Theres such Star sign?

[sweet mountain]

Yeah. It gives 6% afk i think

[agile pagoda]

The forsaken -80%hp, -50% defence, +6% fight afk gain

I was using this for the Rift

[raven fog]

How much does dr matter for rare drops

[agile pagoda]

since enemies just... don't deal damage at all

[raven fog]

I am trying to farm them on half of my characters so should i go all out dr

[ashen marsh]

is rift worth doing?

ive only done the first two challenges

[raven fog]

100%

[agile pagoda]

very

like... insane buffs

[ashen marsh]

wow...

[agile pagoda]

even just the second one

[raven fog]

Yap as strong as doot

[agile pagoda]

.....

[raven fog]

😂

[ashen marsh]

where can I check the buffs?

[agile pagoda]

please don't mention this myth

you have to unlock the skill box

[raven fog]

😂😂

[near goblet]

It needs high damage tho

[raven fog]

But guys should i go all out dr to farm rare drops on my characters

[agile pagoda]

then when you unlock it you click on it and it will show you the buffs given depending on your global skill level

[tough tusk]

no way

[agile pagoda]

Do NOT neglect the rift

[tough tusk]

only at the later stages

[near goblet]

In #1084911530417606656

[agile pagoda]

https://idleon.guide/rift/

[near goblet]

If you just reached w5 you probably wont have enough

[agile pagoda]

Uh...... u sure about that?

The thing is, with rift, you can't only use one character

[tough tusk]

well yes cus for some reason people rush to w5 with less then 100k dmg max

[agile pagoda]

you will need at least 4-5 good characters

[raven fog]

Yap i have 3 billion and idw push now

[agile pagoda]

mostly DK, SB and ES

[near goblet]

Show me someone like that

[ashen marsh]

damn I can't unlock anything

im barely at rift 3

[agile pagoda]

what's your next challenge?

[ashen marsh]

Kill all mobs without any respawning on 3 characters

[agile pagoda]

do you have a Vman?

[ashen marsh]

no lol

[tough tusk]

your serious? do you not know how many people do it?

[agile pagoda]

With ES just use the purple energy ball and wipe the map

[ashen marsh]

I have 3 months playing.

[agile pagoda]

With SB just don't use the flag

[ashen marsh]

yeah I can only get it with my ES right now

[near goblet]

Yes I am serious, show me someone like that

[agile pagoda]

With DK just don't use the hand

[ashen marsh]

my DK is weak. like less than lv 120

[agile pagoda]

with Vman you can just wipe the map with his main skill

[ashen marsh]

my ES is like lv350

[agile pagoda]

leave your ES alone

focus on your DK

and on your SB

[ashen marsh]

ahhh really?

[tough tusk]

just look at the chat for someone that ask questions about w5 and ask him for is max dmg

[near goblet]

I mean you can, Cause that skills revives enemies when all are dead

[raven fog]

Yap impossible

[agile pagoda]

first of all my SB has a lot less lv and hits way harder, DK will help a lot with other stuff

[agile pagoda]

oh right

[near goblet]

I Spend a lot of Time in w3-4 chat and people are often above 2M in w4, never seen someone with <100k in w4

[winged lance]

I did it with about 250k on my BB

[agile pagoda]

my point stands, stop neglecting your other classes

[near goblet]

The not playing the game path

[ashen marsh]

ahh I was trying to get to the end of w5 with my ES

[agile pagoda]

doesnt mean they have to stay behind arms crossed til you remember they exist

[near goblet]

Not really worth

[agile pagoda]

trust me

they are worth it

[tough tusk]

dunno i seen some people just ask about what to do the moment they go to w5 and people just bark at them to go back to w4 and get more dmg

[winged lance]

Why i did catch up on many things later on nothing wrong with that Path

[near goblet]

Okay let's stop this discussion of having early w3 damage in w5

[agile pagoda]

I arrived at world 5 with around 5-6m damage

[ashen marsh]

I was going to make chizoar armor for my ES right now. I wonder if I should make it for DK or SB now?

instead of my ES

[agile pagoda]

Definitely get them the scarf at least

and focus on helmet and chest

the two other pieces don't give total damage

just mastery

[ashen marsh]

ahh okay

[winged lance]

Its not about the damage lol u can just use all worlds benefits to catch up on everything.
I took my time to learn the New mechanics of every World and then pushed on

[ashen marsh]

so just get helmet and chest

[agile pagoda]

that's what I recommend

at the very least

[tough tusk]

will just say it doesn't mean that everyone does it but i seen people do it. just looked at the image search and seen someone showing less then 1m and if i will keep looking i will see even more

[ashen marsh]

should I get for all 3? ES, DK, SB?

[agile pagoda]

oh I believe you

[agile pagoda]

Why not

[near goblet]

[zinc torrent]

Tony's last gemshop tierlist 🫡 #idleon-gen-chat message

[agile pagoda]

With SB buff his speed-based damage talent and throw some high tier speed food

then add some food effect buffs and witness the magic

also invest in his speed buff skill

[ashen marsh]

like the golden food and speed pots?

[agile pagoda]

going at over 300% movement speed is super satisfying... without even considering the damage it gives

there's no movement speed golden food

give him 3 different green potions then one type of food then let him go AFK.... or active so the plunder mob can proc

[fervent solstice]

just highest persons level, not the sum or anything

[green eagle]

yet

[tough tusk]

golden grilled cheese nomwich give spd about 4% for me its pretty good

[agile pagoda]

isnt it like the stat % golden food?

even then, aint gonna be good with his low SB stats

[fervent solstice]

the only advantage I have over you now 😎

[tough tusk]

yes so i gain about 2700 agi from 280k of them and it gives about 4%

[agile pagoda]

yeah but your stats are high

they don't have much value with lower stats

[ashen marsh]

daum what lvl is your main

[tough tusk]

i know it was a joke

[agile pagoda]

my main? 268

my ES

[fervent solstice]

do journeymode or whatver it is called, cuts the grind on having to mass craft stuff

[ashen marsh]

wow

[tough tusk]

tho there is a another food that gives spd other then potions

[agile pagoda]

my highest has been farming a bit yesterday... went from 220 to 275

[agile pagoda]

yeah yeah the chocolates...

[ashen marsh]

i need to lvl up my other characters huh. I was doing divinity with all of them

except mman

[near goblet]

my first ever run was a calamity run with Expert and Revengance on

[radiant geyser]

Can anyone do me a solid and go kîll a nutto and see if it registers in your death note or it's card?

[tough tusk]

yes while it is kinda bad it still might be better then other food at some point

[agile pagoda]

If you have Maestro, work on getting Vman too

[ashen marsh]

should I do that first. get to 1m kills on ES for every monster

[cobalt oriole]

It's so funny with terraria every time I try to start being like "ok last update just dropped I'll play it so I can put it away for good" they make a new update

[tough tusk]

what god did you unlock until now?

[agile pagoda]

you get huge multikill, stat, damage, statue and exp boosts for every character with it

[agile pagoda]

I'm close to unlocking the Goat

[near goblet]

and also a massive cooking boost

[agile pagoda]

yup

[radiant geyser]

You're the perfect specimen! Can you go kîll a nutto and see if it counts towards the kill count?

[fervent solstice]

ehhhhh?

[radiant geyser]

Even if it budges at all

[tough tusk]

oh then your at good point to leave the divinity (not entirely leave 1 or 2 in it BM probably)

[fervent solstice]

i use dk

[near goblet]

The original poster of it was hammerered

[ashen marsh]

sure

[agile pagoda]

Guess you can

[fervent solstice]

[agile pagoda]

Just unlock it, it's very very good

[patent surge]

Which nutto