phasmo-chat

[eternal iris]

oh thats good

if they change the tools again im dying

[quaint forge]

No they aren't going to do that. Just make the game more spooky like bonbon said

[ocean laurel]

Does the Obambo also switch it's speeds? Or is it just the aggressiveness?

[dusky pasture]

How to read the tier 1 thermo better

I cant find ghost room without mirror

[stuck ember]

remember those old thermometer grandma had? with the mercury in them? exactly the same

[wind gate]

is dots bugged?? it never counts for me in pics? can u not take pics of ghost in dots?

[stuck ember]

follow the red line and the digit on the right if you use C, or the digit oon the left if you use F

[stuck ember]

you can, it may be a bug if it appears clearly in the photo but didnt count

[ocean laurel]

its honestly just waiting and hoping the temperature goes lower than in any other room

[fast raft]

anyone using reshade?

[azure rune]

Wdym

[wind gate]

yea apparently its a bug from using 2 dots projectors

[lost dome]

What is the "moneybags" card and how did I get it

[fast raft]

i want a reshade preset for visibility like nvidia filters for phasmophobia

[dusky pasture]

It's hard to tell cuz it updates so slowly

And the ups and downs make it confusing

I only got my first ghost right cuz there's the mirror and it did an event

[gentle fog]

Hi guys, has anyone noticed a glitch in tanglewood, I’ve not got any evidence the ghost will not step into the salt, the ghost will not hunt! I’m on 0 sanity! It did this earlier! I don’t know where to report it at

[dusky pasture]

It might just not want to hunt

[gentle fog]

I get that, I generally thought it was a shade and it wasn’t it’s a Obake! I’ve on presitge 6 I know how to play the game! But for the life of me it’s not doing anything! I don’t even have a ghost room at all!

I give me ghost orbs in the back bedroom! Not doing anything been a ( shade) but I’ve been in this house for half an hour stood in the dark and it’s not doing a thing

Not given me evidence, it’s glitched

[dusky pasture]

Does the sprit box red light mean the ghost picked it up but chose not to respond

[lost dome]

I am pretty sure it means the box understood and tried not that the ghhost was there to hear it

but it could have and chose not to respond

[umbral orbit]

is anyone looking for a squad?

[gentle fog]

It just giving me spirit box, finally in the hallway But hasn’t step into the salt, no ghost orbs in the hallway but in the “ghost room”

[prime elk]

Please keep 'looking for group' requests in our designated channels. Check them out, Investigator: #lfg-eu | #lfg-na | #lfg-as | #lfg-sa!

[main meadow]

Ghosts roam.
So yes you can get box in hallway even if orbs are off in a side rooms.
You can get every evidence outside of ghost room except for orbs

[gentle fog]

Okay thankyou

[vernal plover]

Why no achievement tracker for the challenger trophy that goes from 5-10 challenges completed?

Least I got five done now

[lost dome]

More proof Prestige does not equal knowledge of game

[vernal plover]

What are you on about, I’m talking about the challenge trophy regarding completing weekly challenges

Not prestige

[lost dome]

wasn't directed to you

[unkempt heron]

Thank you

[cursive phoenix]

Have the new ghost types got trophies upon discovery?

[desert trench]

No

[cursive phoenix]

Aw shame

[wild reef]

u get it for spending 100k money aka unlocking break the bank achievement

[opaque oasis]

during a hunt, an onryo suddenly slowed down, why could this be

[fiery lily]

Slowed down?

[opaque oasis]

yeah

[fiery lily]

You sure there's not UV?

[slow spade]

was this in multiplayer?

[opaque oasis]

yup

[slow spade]

were you the host?

[opaque oasis]

yes

[fiery lily]

Slowed down how?

[slow spade]

weird then, I was going to say it might of been lag but idk. Has the game ended yet, like can you confirm its an onryo?

[opaque oasis]

i was looping it, then i suddenly ran into it because it had slowed down

[delicate flint]

On what map? I’ve been having issues with ghosts looking slower cause they got stuck

[opaque oasis]

tanglewood, round kitchen counter

[fiery lily]

Did it pop up as onryo on the death screen?

[opaque oasis]

yup

i guessed obambo cause it was sudden

[slow spade]

t3 salt?

[fiery lily]

Weird...

[opaque oasis]

i used t2 specifically so it doesnt slow the ghost down

[crude edge]

does the mimic turn into a female model or does it just mimic Banshee as a male?

[fiery lily]

Did anyone use a smudge around it at any point?

[slow spade]

I would guess it just mimics banshee as a male but I haven't tested

[opaque oasis]

nope

[fiery lily]

Must've gotten stuck on the corner or smth

[opaque oasis]

hm

[opaque oasis]

dont believe so

[fiery lily]

Yeah, guessing what Ker said happened

[opaque oasis]

anywah gonna prestige for the first time soon!!!!

[fiery lily]

Nicee

I'm gonna get whiplash from having to use t1 stuff again soon

[leaden yarrow]

can wraiths teleport between floors?

[wise oyster]

yes

only Banshee has the same-floor stalking restriction, and even that has exceptions

[eternal iris]

guys ask the monkey paw "i wish for knowledge"

[final elk]

Sup. I saw somewhere that phas will release ghost variants for winter update, is that true?

[wise oyster]

yup, happened last Tuesday

[spice rover]

Jokes on you i get 5 seconds grace

[final elk]

Are they permanant?

[wise oyster]

yep

[final elk]

bless

[leaden yarrow]

oh, not even phantom? inch resting

[solemn stream]

*interesting

[wise oyster]

yep, Phantom will walk itself all the way up or down Point Hope to get to its destination

[leaden yarrow]

... it's a play on words

[leaden yarrow]

oh normal LOL thank you !

[quasi sonnet]

where can I report issues, as my phasmo keeps breaking in steamvr where I launch it and then it tells me failed to connect to my host and my pc becomes really laggy until I close down phasmo

but the thing is I got a high-end PC and running latest version so I don't know what could be the issue here

[prime elk]

If you are experiencing a technical issue in-game, please make sure to check #1413597137815470110 for a solution to your issue.

If you need further help, visit the Kinetic Games Support Portal and one of the Kinetic Games support agents will be happy to assist you!

To report a bug or translation issue that is not already listed in the #known-issues channel, please visit the #bug-reports channel.

[spice rover]

Idk how vr works but

If the game windows isnt matching the resolution it can create sm lag

[quasi sonnet]

ahh okay, ty

[eternal iris]

do non p2p servers ecist?

[quasi sonnet]

honestly that might be the issue as I'm gonna check now

[eternal iris]

me and my friend are literally on the other side of the planet

[spice rover]

I mean it was the issue for me

[quasi sonnet]

ye fe

[opaque oasis]

how do i prestige

[solemn stream]

On the main menu top right of the menu

Under your name it’ll say prestige if you’re lvl 100

[opaque oasis]

ty

wait arent i meant to have an extra loadout slot

[wise moss]

-trello

[prime elk]

Kinetic Games has a Trello Board! There you can see potential upcoming updates, features, and fixes. You can find the Trello @ https://trello.com/b/9QrnqQ1j/phasmophobia.

[lost dome]

there are a lot of things that dont refresh without reloading game/lobby

[fluid zodiac]

During a hunt how to tell the difference between demon and Obambo?

[wise oyster]

obambo will be faster or slower, close to Twins speeds

[lost dome]

speed of obambo will change in between hunts slightly

[fluid zodiac]

LOS?

[lost dome]

both have los

[spice rover]

Obambo can only be a girl right???

Like dayan

Or am I wrong

[odd vale]

It can be either

[wise oyster]

Obambo can change mid-hunt, too.

[lost dome]

ok yeah it is time based

[spice rover]

Wait then who is the other one with dayan

[wise oyster]

Banshee

[odd vale]

Banshee

😆

[spice rover]

Alr good thing I haven't ruined someone's hunt yet bc of my stupidity

[fluid zodiac]

Think we ever get a weeping angel like ghost? Only moves when you don’t look at it?

[solemn stream]

Peanut the scp is not coming to phas

[gritty veldt]

I HATE GALLUS
I'm doing the new challenge
First time, we think it's Twins
GALLU
Second time, we thought it was Moroi
GALLU

[fluid zodiac]

Being from the uk I’m surprised they haven’t done it yet

[gritty veldt]

I HATE GALLUS AAAAAAAAAAA

[fluid zodiac]

Weeping Angels came first

[solemn stream]

But did you check the salt?

[leaden ivy]

Oh hey, the "Spirit selected by default" bug finally got fixed

[gritty veldt]

We used incense but no salt and crucifixes

[solemn stream]

I know but peanut is funnier

[fluid zodiac]

Just imagine a ghost faster than a 0% sanity moroi running around the building

[leaden ivy]

Deogen on the other side of sunny meadows from you

[subtle sky]

watching insym is always fun

[solemn stream]

Always use salt. If nothing else it’s just easier to rule out wraith

[bitter nova]

Why does the regular badge say toy soldier but the animated one say winters patron (the same title as last year’s)?? I want both to say toy soldier☹️

[solemn stream]

We don’t know. Might’ve been an oversight

[leaden ivy]

There's already a bug where you can lose the original version of the badge

[bitter nova]

I hope they fix it when they fix demon/deo

[solemn stream]

Lol

[bitter nova]

I only have the animated one, if you’re supposed to keep both I am a victim of the bug

[leaden ivy]

There's no reason we shouldn't be able to have both given every other instance of regular/animated

[solemn stream]

You’re only supposed to keep both if you got the animated one before the static one

[leaden ivy]

There is no way thats intended

[solemn stream]

If you got the static then the animated, it’s seen as an upgrade and you only keep one

[bitter nova]

That’s weirdly specific I’m with megaman on this one that has to be a bug

[languid field]

does anyone have a good strat for grinding event points

[solemn stream]

I got no clue man I’m just repeating what mods have said

[leaden ivy]

High mult/short hunt time/music box/pick a map with music box close to entrance, bring incense and loop ghost, ID it based off of that hunt and leave

[uncut flower]

what animated badge... i need this...

[leaden ivy]

personal event progress bar

[bitter nova]

Unlock it with personal rewards

[wise oyster]

just 300 event points

[uncut flower]

how many do i need to do for that

oh okayi feel like i have that

[languid field]

might be a dumb question but does the regular mult affect the event point mult in that case?

[leaden ivy]

Its +1 event point per 1x of mult

10x mult = 10 additional event points

[languid field]

oh sick

[bitter nova]

You can check on the event board. If it says 100% but you can’t see the animated version just change id card then change back, that worked for me

[leaden ivy]

If you get killed by an Obambo a text splash should show up saying "Thanks Obambo"

[quasi sonnet]

good news, I can launch the game up in steamvr but now it's extremely choppy

[leaden ivy]

Also it's 3700 points for final trophy upgrade right

[azure rune]

I’m at 25k points after 19 hours of playtime is that good or do I need to grind more because I’m trying to get better

[wise oyster]

3600, but any remainder from finishing each tier gets dropped

[leaden ivy]

log off and touch grass unironically because damn

[azure rune]

Wdym

[leaden ivy]

25k event points in 19 hours??

[azure rune]

Yeah is that bad

[uncut flower]

yeah i do have it

[leaden ivy]

I mean it's a hell of a lot

[uncut flower]

thanks

[azure rune]

Oh it’s actually 20h of playtime

Wait I could be on the leaderboard soon that’s cool

[leaden ivy]

Yeah lol

[azure rune]

All I do is 12x so maybe that explains it

Oh my gosh bro I could really be on the leaderboard that’s so cool bro

[leaden ivy]

Meanwhile I'm dragging myself to getting the third trophy upgrade

You can't suicide for event points anymore which sucks

[azure rune]

What is that

[wise oyster]

True, but it does make sense

[leaden ivy]

On one hand yes, on the other its more annoying to grind

the trade off was faster event points but less exp

imo a fair exchange

[azure rune]

Wait my name is dorito dragon so if I get on leaderboard people will see dorito dragon wow 😂

[azure rune]

Wait so do you have tips to get on leaderboard

[leaden ivy]

There's not really any tips other than what you're doing

[azure rune]

How did you get so many

[leaden ivy]

What do you mean how did I get so many, you're the one with like 25k points

[languid field]

also what happens if you have any rollover points at the end of the event past the final trophy upgrade, will it just save the point progress for next year?

[valid galleon]

pls help multiplayer time out clinens

[midnight forge]

Anyone already did the weekly challenge?

[prime elk]

If you are experiencing a technical issue in-game, please make sure to check #1413597137815470110 for a solution to your issue.

If you need further help, visit the Kinetic Games Support Portal and one of the Kinetic Games support agents will be happy to assist you!

To report a bug or translation issue that is not already listed in the #known-issues channel, please visit the #bug-reports channel.

[dusk field]

Yeh

[midnight forge]

Any tips? Only had one ghost correct 🙈

[dusk field]

Hide run and loop the ghost

[midnight forge]

Yeahhh hide and run I got that down just not loping the ghost 😅

[dusk field]

If u don't know how to loop the ghost use the cheet sheet for the steps and what each ghosts does

[midnight forge]

Know what the ghosts do it’s just really hard to find the ghost room

And T1 equipment is challenging

[wise oyster]

You can outrun pretty much any ghost in the weekly.

[dusk field]

Well use parabolic to find the ghost room

[jovial cloud]

are no no trophies yet for the new ghosts

[midnight forge]

Well if they don’t have LoS

[dusk field]

Unless it's a young thaye

[wise oyster]

even that, we're 150%, ghost is 100%

At the very least, you're fast enough to outrun it enough to break LoS around a corner. Figure out where the ghost is hunting from, do a big loop around a section of the school to lose it, set up stuff in the ghost room while it's off hunting.

[midnight forge]

Welp I had a ghost I couldn’t outrun with LoS in the long run

[wise oyster]

Maybe a Moroi if you let it see you all the way down a long hall.

[midnight forge]

I had a Dayan that was the easy one after that LoS ghost a lot of banshees and yureis

[odd vale]

There are no new trophies for these ghosts.

[wise oyster]

Our walking speed is 2.4m/s and our sprint is 4.5m/s

[odd vale]

Doesn’t mean there won’t be. We just don’t have further info on it.

[wise oyster]

You could feather sprint and outrun a normal ghost with full LoS

[midnight forge]

Gonna try again later today

[wise oyster]

That's the spirit (har), you got it

[midnight forge]

🙈😋

[leaden ivy]

I spoke too soon. The spirit by default bug is definitely not fixed

[wise oyster]

yup 🤦‍♂️

[dusk field]

I can help of you need it

[leaden ivy]

No it isn't, because if you don't change the ghost to something else and back to spirit, the game acts as if you got it wrong

That's the bug

[dusk field]

Yeh I was going to say that lol

[midnight forge]

Dunno if you on later ?

[dusk field]

I will be on from now till 8.30pm gmt

[midnight forge]

Will look for you on here when I try again. Thank you

[dusk field]

No problem

[hallow iris]

Allow us to take a photo the ghost less annoying during a hunt

[eternal iris]

i reached level 50 !!! :3

[uncut flower]

this would make ghosts with blink traits harder to identify

[dusk field]

Nice

[red crest]

.

[queen lintel]

I just realized something; I have a little over 900 hours of phasmo

[mellow ibex]

Phasss

[queen lintel]

I wonder how many days of me playing phasmo before I get 1k hours

[analog widget]

-trello

[lost dome]

you broke it

[prime elk]

Kinetic Games has a Trello Board! There you can see potential upcoming updates, features, and fixes. You can find the Trello @ https://trello.com/b/9QrnqQ1j/phasmophobia.

[analog widget]

I think I trelloed too much

[torpid condor]

Hi, pls what's the best way to earn points in the xmas event?

And, can I make points in single player? Cuz I've tried and I didnt get any

[strong kettle]

hey im kinda new does anybody wanna play with me?

oh mb i didnt see the lfg

[lost dome]

get ghost correct-do objectives and pop jack in boxes- yes single player is fine

[opaque oasis]

ive prestiged for the first time omg

[lost dome]

congrats back to tier 1 for you

[torpid condor]

I only get points if I do objectives right?

[last drift]

Objectives
Santa sack
Ghost ID
Krampus boxes

[last drift]

Do any ez objective, fill the sack with correct items, open krampus boxes, and if possible, ID the ghost.

Donwhat you can, leave the rest behind, and then close the van

[torpid condor]

tysm guys!!! ❤️

[dusk field]

have fun hunting

[swift gust]

Just a quick question, I've had demons now twice that has had massive speedups for some reason, has it been updated or something cause I cant find anything on this?

[dawn mist]

how do yall earn the tarrot trading cards

[lost dome]

if you are talking about the trophy case you need to pull it in a game to unlock it there

[uncut flower]

maybe just los?

[median lintel]

Yo

[dawn mist]

I meant the trading cards on steam

[lost dome]

play game to get a few then buy from store

or trade friends

[swift gust]

Yeah potentially but what confuses me is that it seemed a lot higher than just los

[main meadow]

If you fail the gift bag ghost get faster like it's a blood moon

That's another possibility some people don't know about why faster ghosts

[prisma laurel]

15%

[swift gust]

neither of our games had a blood moon unfortunately, how much speed does los give now again?

[main meadow]

Not have blood moon just putting wrong item in bag in event maps

[wind gate]

guys is there a place i can see how many times ive identitified each type of ghost not jus total

[dawn mist]

oh im assuming you cant get all cards from just playing?

[lost dome]

not unless you unlock packs somehow-I have never got any

[main meadow]

takes 13 seconds to hit max I don't have per second off top my head

[south violet]

any mod try to help me lvl up?

[prime elk]

Modifications and cheats can have an adverse effect on the game, yourself, and other players. They are capable of corrupting your save file progress, and cause all sorts of issues which we are not required to assist you with in such a case.

Any actions involving modifying the game in any way violates Phasmophobia's EULA, and if detected or reported, will lead to a Multiplayer ban.

The server and game does not support the use of modified lobbies or cheats, and will take action against anyone advertising or attempting to access them!

[prisma shale]

When is double xp ending like what hour?

[vernal jacinth]

It ain't that hard rn. Play a 3x reward difficulty on an event map. I average 2.5k xp without a perfect game. Otherwise I get about 3.5k

[solemn stream]

12:00 gmt 23rd

[prisma shale]

Thank you!!❤️

[dusk field]

Modding the game bad but people can help u level up

[south violet]

no like game moderator

[solemn stream]

moderators don't usually play with people they don't know

actually most people don't play with people they don't know

[odd vale]

There are no game moderators like that

[main meadow]

Can help you learn here ya go.
We have a couple of places to learn about ghosts and abilities.
#1254568921110024254 for ghost info, cursed object info and more!
And
Check out the Cheat sheet to help learn ghost info, speeds, map info and much more!

[zinc coyote]

[quiet fulcrum]

Anyone fancy helping a girl out with the challenge

[main meadow]

-lfg Hey there if you want we have some LFG channels to find others to play with! Try clicking the blue text below!

[prime elk]

Please keep 'looking for group' requests in our designated channels. Check them out, Investigator: #lfg-eu | #lfg-na | #lfg-as | #lfg-sa!

[vagrant roost]

Stranger danger. We were all taught it 🥲

[south violet]

yes there is

one js help me out

i got lvl up to 41

[uncut flower]

was the character customization room always this visible

[odd vale]

There aren’t any game moderators that is part of their duty if any sort. 👍 @south violet

Like there’s no position like that or anything

[south violet]

then what was that kid on stream

he got 100M

[main meadow]

a kid lying.

[dusk field]

there probably modding then

[main meadow]

If you mean that room that you can look through and see the ghost wigging out yeah ever since they changed the lobby

[south violet]

he show proof tho

[odd vale]

Sounds like they could be a cheater.

[dusk field]

and a kid cant be a dev or staff

[gritty dove]

There's no proof they could show because it's not a thing

[drifting dust]

This sounds like a classic case of “my dad works at Xbox”

[dusk field]

hi renegade and swift

[dusk field]

sound so true fr

[dusk field]

what lobby you in i will come in and talk to him

[glacial gust]

hey guys, can i ask a question about settings?

[dusk field]

go ahead

[hard relic]

Im lookin for 2 people to play im alright at the game

[main meadow]

-lfg Hey there if you want we have some LFG channels to find others to play with! Try clicking the blue text below!

[prime elk]

Please keep 'looking for group' requests in our designated channels. Check them out, Investigator: #lfg-eu | #lfg-na | #lfg-as | #lfg-sa!

[glacial gust]

every time i look at a screen, and look back everything is dark, and it takes a while for it to be light again - how can i turn that off? i'm on playstation and don't have the same options as PC

[dusk field]

hi stoneeeeeeeeeeeee

[hard relic]

Thank you

[main meadow]

Eye adaptation I don't think it's toggleable yet on console

[dusk field]

it prob isnt

[main meadow]

You know how your eyes actually work in real life where you see something bright you can't see in the dark that's eye adaptation

[muted axle]

correct me if i am wrong, but if a ghosts name is David Doe, does that mean that it will have a male ghost model

[glacial gust]

aaaa damnit, do anyone know when it's coming as an option? cause i really don't like it😆

[muted axle]

and if true, would it disqualify banshee and dayan?

[main meadow]

Probably sounds like a male name who knows

[main meadow]

yes.

[main meadow]

-trello for all the stuff they are working on.

[prime elk]

Kinetic Games has a Trello Board! There you can see potential upcoming updates, features, and fixes. You can find the Trello @ https://trello.com/b/9QrnqQ1j/phasmophobia.

[main meadow]

we never know WHEN we only know if they are working on stuff

[zinc coyote]

I suspect tanglewood is next personally

[glacial gust]

thank you sm!

[hallow iris]

Should i do perfect games or no

[opaque verge]

Can someone help me where is the coal in Tanglewood the triple one I found the bathtub one

[zinc coyote]

Yes

[unkempt nexus]

When does the event end ?

[mossy mason]

If you mean the rocks, they’re in the garage

[opaque verge]

thanks

[tribal flame]

Where can I find snowmen on Tanglewood

[muted axle]

Thanks, because i got so confused when my friend said she saw dots, because it said it would be a banshee then, but she actually didint

[opaque verge]

Ensuit

[solemn stream]

Mater bedroom en suite

[opaque oasis]

I FEEL LIKE A GENIUS OMG

[tribal flame]

Do I have to do naughty list also

[solemn stream]

yes, you must do the entire list

[tribal flame]

Ok

[opaque oasis]

i half guessed half thought it was a mimic and i was right in a 0 evi 0 sanity run

[solemn stream]

if it's 0 ev the mimic will have orbs, it's an easy one tbh but gj!

[pastel dagger]

Hey, where can i post issues in game? And has anyone else had the same issue as me? I’m on bleasdale doing 0 evidence and got 2 yurei’s in a row, both came straight over to where I was hiding despite not having mics on, electronics etc. it’s the room to the left as you walk in, past the one with the plates. The ghost seemed to instantly know where I was despite being in a hiding spot that I’ve never had issues with before

[opaque oasis]

didnt even look for orbs, looped it around a counter for 2 hunts and said it was a mimic and idk how i came to that conclusion

[solemn stream]

ghost naturally path to hiding spots

[stoic sequoia]

Hello fellow Ghosthunters

[pastel dagger]

No I know that, but it came straight over and walked into the hiding spot both times, and both times it started its hunt from upstairs

Which I’ve only ever had that happen when there’s been electronics on

[opaque oasis]

sure like headgear wasnt on or smth

[pastel dagger]

I don’t bring it with me so definitely wasn’t headgear

[solemn stream]

did you turn your flashlight ff with the button or did you switch to it in the inventory and manually turn it off

[sharp bolt]

hey anyone willing to group up for a game?

[pastel dagger]

Switched it off with the button and didn’t have it in hand, but that’s how I’ve always done it and never had any issues before

[solemn stream]

When you switch it off with the button it stays on in the inventory

Best to manually turn it off or just drop it

[eternal iris]

is there a way to make shades do ghost events 😭

its so quiet i also need to make it HUNT ME

[solemn stream]

Stay outside of the ghost room

[pastel dagger]

Hmm, I’ll give it a go and try that hiding spot again. Hopefully that works out but just seems strange as it’s not been an issue before when I’ve done it with the button. Thank you

[eternal iris]

thank uu

[prisma laurel]

[eternal iris]

ghost room is halway so its really hard to stay out of it

and also record the ghost\

[wet stream]

hey i have a question about jinns, do they have the ability to turn off the breaker in nightmare mode?

[solemn stream]

Only if they turn too many lights on

[wet stream]

oh i see thank you! i ruled out the jinn bcs it turned off the breaker but turned out to be one

[solemn stream]

It’s always good to keep as few lights as possible on

[prisma laurel]

Erm nah, I would rather have the lights off

[pastel dagger]

Just done bleasdale again and used the same spot, no issues that time, only happened with 2 yurei’s in a row

[sinful dagger]

Can someone explain what the naughty & nice list does please

[solemn stream]

A guide to the Naughty/Nice symbols

[south violet]

is tanglewood still getting re worked?

[solemn stream]

yes

all the maps with unity assets are getting a rework

[south violet]

which maps are those

[solemn stream]

house maps, highschool maybe prison i don't remember

[south violet]

alright, thanks

[merry yacht]

Is a mist form for every ghost?

[dusk field]

it rules out oni

[merry yacht]

Only?

[dusk field]

yeh

[solemn stream]

only oni

[merry yacht]

Mkk

[dusk field]

hi kris hows your day going

[solemn stream]

meh

[sinful dagger]

Ty! But what does putting the items like even do

[vague widget]

when t2 firelight gets blown out does it count as 1 or 3 blows?

[solemn stream]

If done right it’ll give you a present that might help with investigation. If done wrong you get coal and +15% ghost speed

[sinful dagger]

Ohhh tysm!

[rancid ivy]

Putting in all the correct items gives you event points and a present. The present could be a snowball gun, a cookie that restores sanity, or a random piece of equipment of varying tier. If you play in a group then everyone gets a present.

[sinful dagger]

Ty!

[solemn stream]

Oh yeah 10 event points too

[kind knot]

I guessed so. No worries x)

[uncut flower]

... and lose my sanity ?🥺

[analog widget]

sanity doesn't matter

[dreamy magnet]

I just want it them to get rid of the floating books on sunny meadows basement, rework that

[uncut flower]

you underestimate the immense terror i have of hunts

[analog widget]

pathetic

[uncut flower]

im level 89 and still try everything to prevent it from hunting 😭

i don't even get scared from this game much anymore it's just the mental block in my head

[vast crown]

play customs with setting to keep items after you die, and just let the ghost kill you 50 times. after that, start trying to loop it. eventually you won't care that it's hunting anymore lol

[remote viper]

Why did they put sanity meds on weekly when it does nothinf

[vast crown]

trololol

[teal sundial]

is double xp over now?

[last drift]

Tomorrow

[teal sundial]

thanks!

[uncut flower]

yeah I've lately been doing the camp woodwind xp farm thing to practice my looping and get prestige 1 at the same time

[last drift]

<t:1767700800:F>

[uncut flower]

I haven't died once so far so it's going good i think

[remote viper]

Do the weekly on any map. Won't loose anything if you die and it's an auto hunt cuz its 0 sanoty

[edgy echo]

where are the sticks in bleasdale?

[lime token]

In the little garden area, the side path

[zinc coyote]

I gotta do this weekly before double xp ends

Is the weekly on a event map rn?

[lime token]

Tis on brownstone

[vast crown]

brownhigh stoolschool

[zinc coyote]

Now I dont wanna do it lmao

[vast crown]

just go spirit until you get it lmao

[zinc coyote]

True

Eh I'll probably do it, might be on shitstone but free 10k xp

[lime token]

The weekly rewards are far too low

[sick path]

Almost had it TwT apocalypse 3 wraith

[dreamy magnet]

[vagrant leaf]

what is the weekly challenge for this week

[lime token]

Tag! You're it. On brownstone

[rare valve]

does anyone know if there is like an event cause like 4/6 games I played I had a blood moon and i just want to ask if its my terrible luck or an event i wasnt aware of

[hushed wasp]

dayan cant be male correct?

[remote merlin]

yes

when does 2x xp end?

[odd vale]

Check pins

[fading jackal]

fake patch notes:
new equipment item: lotion sensors can detect when ghosts throw lotion bottles. great for detecting when the ghost is near the shitter!

[odd vale]

🤨

[opaque verge]

Where is the Candy cane and Sticks in Blesdale?

[fading jackal]

...well i thought it was funny.

[lime token]

Sticks are in the garden side patch

Candy canes in the tea room

[opaque verge]

I just found one as you said the tea room

[stray forge]

hii, just wanted to ask if i need a xbox gamepass subscription to play phasmophobia with friends

[vagrant leaf]

I dont think so

[odd vale]

Yes

Same as PlayStation needs PlayStation plus

[stray forge]

damn thats pretty evil

[peak blade]

how long is 2x XP still active?

[odd vale]

It has to do really with the platform

[odd vale]

Check pins

[stray forge]

needing subscriptions to play onlin e is honestly so so dystopian

[peak blade]

pin says the date. but not the time?

[vast crown]

PC 🙂 anyways

i ❤️ Moroi

[odd vale]

I’m not 100% certain on the time which is why it was not posted. If it is at the update time, it would be at 4 AM Pacific.

[lime token]

Ghost go zoom

[odd vale]

Otherwise, it would be midnight UK time

[main meadow]

Right that's the whole event

[lime token]

It's ending afternoon tomorrow UK time

[vagrant leaf]

any tips on the weekly challenge I don't play brownstone

[peak blade]

ty 🙂

[past leaf]

be careful. that place is haunted.

[vagrant leaf]

ok

[zinc coyote]

No one likes brownstone

[heavy nebula]

Does anyone know the hunting treshold of a dayan?

[zinc coyote]

check the cheat sheet

[lime token]

The cheat sheet has the values, I think it's different if ur moving or not

[zinc coyote]

Moving and proximity iirc

[vagrant leaf]

I know and does anybody know if brownstone is going to have double XP tomorrow

[fierce vector]

did they add new sounds for ghots events jesus christ-

[lime token]

There's new ones for krampus

[zinc coyote]

All maps have double xp until double xp ends

[worldly agate]

Wait so is the trophy not gonna change from year to year?

[modern mauve]

Atm, no, we get trophy upgrades and the points roll over year by year

[worldly agate]

Yeah but the are upgrades different from last year's? Cuz I maxed out last year.

Though I will say that this year's ID decoration thing is awesome

[modern mauve]

Last year only had the base trophy

[gritty dove]

There were no trophy upgrades last year

[worldly agate]

Ah, got it.

[opaque oasis]

the hope of sanity increases sanity

[opaque verge]

MY FIRST NEW GHOST IS A OBAMBO!

[opaque oasis]

congrats!

[odd vale]

Me too!

[vast crown]

damn lfg dead for no evidence lol

[sharp valve]

So uh, the Double xp is ending in 15 hours?

[opaque oasis]

WHAT?

[vast crown]

yeah

[sharp valve]

Im asking

[vast crown]

check the pins

[sharp valve]

Aight thx

[opaque oasis]

i just prestiged as well

[vast crown]

we got someone from prestige 16 to the middle of 19 in a couple hours with the double xp, it's so nice

[sharp valve]

Im planning to prestige rn as well

[sharp valve]

How is that even possible lol

[amber gyro]

bro what is this weeks challenge mode

[opaque oasis]

genuinely worst oat

[vast crown]

14.47x on cww when it's an event map with double xp gives like 12-15k per game where we can get the ghost correct

[sharp valve]

This challenge is difficult but because of the map

[sharp valve]

Dang

[modern mauve]

Reminds me I should do a nice 15x and get that sweet payout

[vast crown]

i noticed the cheaters are still running sunny meadows like idiots lmao

[sharp valve]

I mean, the ghost can get LOS when he is in the other point of the hallway making it difficult to see its speed

[vast crown]

recommend parabolic mic to clearly hear the speeds when it's not close enough to you

it's my crutch, i have bad hearing so it's my #1 item lol

[sharp valve]

Thats what I do, I brought flashlight, incense and a parabolic

[vast crown]

i usually go in with parabolic, smudge, salt, lighter

[desert spade]

Can the Gallu changed From Weakened to Normal or Normal to Enraged during a hunt?

[sharp valve]

Well, I cant see sht

[vast crown]

then next items to bring are always motion sensor, crucifix, and firelight for tests past the first hunt

[sharp valve]

That would be my picks as well if I saw smth

[vast crown]

i got nvidia filters

[sharp valve]

Not me

[vast crown]

console?

on amd you can use reshade but idk how to configure it properly

[sharp valve]

Nah, Im on laptop but have nothing downloaded to make the game brighter

I have Intel

[vast crown]

ahh integrated graphics

[sharp valve]

Yup

[vast crown]

damn that sucks (at least for this purpose) lol

[sharp valve]

My laptop is not designed for gaming

I play in it tho

[vast crown]

yea i got the latest macbook for when i'm not at my pc, just bc i wanted to experience what all the other devs at my office are using, tried playing phas with crossover but didn't really work the way i wanted it to lol

should run the game fine but the mouse controls are borked

[sharp valve]

Dang

[vast crown]

still may be able to use reshade with integrated graphics lemme google that

[sharp valve]

Mind telling me what settings are u running?

I might need to grind tonight

[sharp valve]

Maybe, I have not looked for it that much

[vast crown]

looks like it's possible but with frame rate drops. but you're playing phasmophobia, so who knows. maybe it'll work out

[sharp valve]

Ill try

[twilit portal]

Why i can't see any servers?

[sharp valve]

Idk

[vast crown]

it's apoc 3 but medium length hunts, no kills extend hunts, since that gives you no money having it turned on, and 75% player speed. it's rough tho. annoying solo bc you gotta bring all the stuff in yourself. you basically set up just inside the map, at the front gate. let the ghost come to you and just keep it t3 smudged the entire time while you take pics/videos/sound recordings and then leave whether you know the ghost or not.

[main meadow]

First make sure Crossplay is enabled in your game settings under Game.
Then restart the game after you hit apply if servers are still not showing up

after that do the stuff below

[prime elk]

If you are experiencing a technical issue in-game, please make sure to check #1413597137815470110 for a solution to your issue.

If you need further help, visit the Kinetic Games Support Portal and one of the Kinetic Games support agents will be happy to assist you!

To report a bug or translation issue that is not already listed in the #known-issues channel, please visit the #bug-reports channel.

[sharp valve]

Damn

[vast crown]

yeah check the population, if it's super low either you're on the wrong servers, crossplay is turned off, or both.

[twilit portal]

alr

[vast crown]

if crossplay is on, and you're on the correct servers, then it just means all the lobbies are in-game, not in lobby waiting for people to join

[main meadow]

or not updated correctly.

[vast crown]

yeah that's a big one

[twilit portal]

I might also look some tutorials and hope it works

[vast crown]

do you have any filters entered in the server list?

[twilit portal]

Nope, it just happened suddenly and i tried to redownload

[chrome mirage]

What does the T3 EMF detector sound like a Microwave?

[twilit portal]

i'll try it

oh nvm it worked thanks

[torpid condor]

guys prob im stupid I know but even if I open boxes, id the ghost and complete the 3 objectives I dont get any event point

I never had issues with the past events

[zinc coyote]

Are you on event maps?

[torpid condor]

yes

[main meadow]

must be at least x1 difficulty

[zinc coyote]

That too

[torpid condor]

tysm!!!

[main meadow]

And if yer looking at the event board or leaderboard its slow to update, what matters is the end of round page tellign you how many points

[torpid condor]

I was on custom to be faster thats why

tysm

[zinc coyote]

I just had a wraith on the challenge mode, got back to the truck, forgot to mark it lmao

[tawny juniper]

omg i just tossed a smudge down beside a lit firelight and it burned my smudge. .

[main meadow]

2 am last night i did that twice and went to bed upset.

[fallow bear]

im in a solo run, this ghost keeps talking into the spirit box but i hear an old man and also a woman. what ghost type could that possibly be?? (they're like talking actively at different times)

[zinc coyote]

Happens to the best of us lmao

[tawny juniper]

could be any ghost with Spirit Box as evidence. You can't narrow it down with that info from what I've been told

[main meadow]

fire working as intended

[tawny juniper]

indeed but dang

[main meadow]

The only special thing you're going to get on Spirit Box itself is if it's a deo and you hear the wheezing

[fallow bear]

im between mimic twins and onryo

[fallow bear]

nvm there was orbs it was an onyro

[main meadow]

so does mimic be carfull!

[torpid condor]

you're my hero fr ❤️

[main meadow]

lets take phascoin bets if its actully mimic.

[tawny juniper]

give it the old Onryo test or try for a 4th evidence for Mimic

[zinc coyote]

Ugh, and i reinstalled drivers so now i gotta redo my nvidia filters

[main meadow]

every fuckign update for me... but i do clean instal so yeah

[vast crown]

night mode is so good

[zinc coyote]

Oh i did a full nvidia driver reinstall, was having issues

I love making brownstone at night look like daytime

[vast crown]

and sunny meadows, it feels like the days pre-ascension lol

[zinc coyote]

If only I could still see well on grafton

Even with filters its so damn dark

[vast crown]

yeah i noticed i can see fine on bleasdale when i first get inside but after the first hunt it goes dark

[hollow umbra]

will this game ever be playable on mac?

[zinc coyote]

ewwwww mac

[vast crown]

you can play using crossover but it costs money

[zinc coyote]

on foggy its fine, anything else nope

[vast crown]

i noticed heavy rain actually makes the lighting better because the moon is in a good spot or something

[night gazelle]

what counts as freezing in the freezer in nell’s diner

😭

[vast crown]

i'd say same as any other room

[night gazelle]

since ik it’s alr so cold in there

[vast crown]

0 for t1, < 1 for t2 and t3

celsius tho

[zinc coyote]

Got touched by a thaye

[vast crown]

you turn to stone

[zinc coyote]

myling, thaye. lets see whats next

[night gazelle]

brutal

[night gazelle]

thx!! i knew 0 but didn’t know less then 1 was counted towards freezing !

[vast crown]

yeah just depends what tier thermo you use

[night gazelle]

3

[vast crown]

yeah anything less than 1 C is considered freezing for you then

[night gazelle]

oki ty

[zinc coyote]

myling, thaye, moroi. ez

[lime token]

Nice group of ghosts

[loud mural]

Do obambo in enraged hunting have red eyes ? Or is that just blood moon specific

[zinc coyote]

Blood moon

[loud mural]

Thank you

[tawny juniper]

I hate having to search the journal for the ghost now that they've added 3 more lol. I'll get used to it though

[lime token]

They've also changed the order to make it in alphabetical order (ignore deo and demon lol)

[tawny juniper]

I didn't realize

haha i like how those two are out of order

[zinc coyote]

Threw off my muscle memory at first

[chrome hornet]

Does anyone else have an issue with the game resetting the settings every time you open it? I just want to see if I'm doing something wrong.

[zinc coyote]

Are you on pc?

[sonic fog]

When does the 2x multiplier end? Tomorrow?

[zinc coyote]

Yes

[sonic fog]

Cool, thanks

[lime token]

Turn off auto optimization on the nvidia app

[zinc coyote]

Its also in the pins

[queen nest]

bro my literal first round of the day and my third round post update
first time encountering a gallu and i got it right with just 1 evidence

[lime token]

Noice

[queen nest]

im cracked 🔥

do the new ghosts have trophies yet?

[lime token]

Nope

[queen nest]

sad

since the gallu is a variant of demon it could be one with horns and an 💢 symbol on it in gold

cos its the "enrage" ghost

[still flower]

Will there be a Convai-type AI in ghosts?

[leaden ivy]

a what

ghost behaviors right now are pretty simple there isn't really any external AI involved

[echo musk]

Be respectful in the server please. Trolling brings out the morons yes, but we can all chose to ignore it. However, you nor anyone in here really, has the right to command someone something. Mods and Admin are the closest who have even a smidgen of right. almost finishes the decor for @glacial stag so excited

[glacial stag]

🛌

[wooden badge]

anyone wanna play

[vestal atlas]

guys where is the coal on tanglewood??? I'm so blind I can't find it

[prime elk]

Please keep 'looking for group' requests in our designated channels. Check them out, Investigator: #lfg-eu | #lfg-na | #lfg-as | #lfg-sa!

[ornate stag]

bathroom

[wooden badge]

bathroom at the boys room

[wooden badge]

wanna play?

[vestal atlas]

ty kind soul

[vestal atlas]

also in group rn sry mate

[wooden badge]

oh alr

after if u can maybe?

[leaden ivy]

Server should rename Goblin Tea House to Gallu Tea House

[spark zenith]

Anyone having trouble with multiplayer?

[glacial stag]

Goryo Tea House

[lethal ridge]

is anyone a noob and wants to play with me and my friend

[glacial stag]

-lfg for all ur looking for team mate needs

[prime elk]

Please keep 'looking for group' requests in our designated channels. Check them out, Investigator: #lfg-eu | #lfg-na | #lfg-as | #lfg-sa!

[plush oak]

bloodmoon tanglewood christmas event lets go

[frail wharf]

I just had a demon burn a cruci at 75% sanity and it didn't count as an ability used

[feral saddle]

Is the weekly challenge actually judt the ghost hunts instantly

[random roost]

I´ve had an idea for phasmo but idk where else to post it so here I go.

When loading into a selected map there is a small chance that there isn´t a ghost at all and the evidence is being made by either wild animals or natural phenomena.

[clear hazel]

"Holy crap it's a demon!!!" "Nah you idiot...windows open." Lol

[odd vale]

To be honest, it’d make me dislike the game if it was an option.

Just because I feel like I’d be doing a round and not get any $ lol

[random roost]

Maybe a setting that you could toggle on or off?

[pliant coyote]

guys i need Help, i have done my personal Goal in the Event but i
don't receive the better ID-kard

[desert spade]

Bring that up with the Devs, put in a bug report or something
Maybe try Reloading the game, or booting in and out of an actual game

[pliant coyote]

have done my Goal 3 days ago but didn't receive it yet

[desert spade]

Meanwhile I have two questions
Can the Gallu changed From Weakened to Normal or Normal to Enraged during a hunt?
And does the Obambo, when in Aggressive state, interact much more often? And similarly, when in it's Passive state, will it not interact as much? The Non offical Phasmo website doesn't say anything about it

[desert spade]

Bring that up with the Devs, Put in a bug report, Get your Screenshots, Including how many points you have on the point leader board

Do you have 3600 points?

No wait that's for the trophy

[lime holly]

1. yes
2. other way around

[pliant coyote]

Idk have first goal 100% and second 30%

[desert spade]

Wait so the Obambo will interact more when passive, and not interact more when it's agressive it'll be less active outside of hunts?

Thanks!

[lime holly]

np

[desert spade]

Then it should be working? I'm not too sure why it's not, I forget what the point goal is for the Badge
Again, bring it up with the devs, and provide Screenshots of your case

[pliant coyote]

ok

thx

[desert spade]

Yw

[modern mauve]

You sure you don't have it? It's the nutcracker card, the animation is a little subtle

[pliant coyote]

dont have it

[lime holly]

The biggest difference is the foil one has those little nuts

[desert spade]

Yeah the Special badge has Foil nuts, the other one doesn't

[wise oyster]

Nutcracker emoji when

[wooden badge]

anyone wanna play

[prime elk]

Please keep 'looking for group' requests in our designated channels. Check them out, Investigator: #lfg-eu | #lfg-na | #lfg-as | #lfg-sa!

[brazen river]

This is either the most stubborn dots or freezing temperatures, i can’t tell because this ghost keeps switching favourite rooms

[onyx pagoda]

So, is ombambo broken?

I spent the last 15 minutes trying to figure out a ghost. Moved my DOTS 2 times. No DOTS projection. Lots of thrown objects. Very few hunts. So, I assume with writing and UV must be Poltergeist being stubborn to give spirit box.

[last drift]

no

[onyx pagoda]

Nope. It's an obambo. Which is absolute bs because I never once caught DOTS evidence over 15 minutes of waiting. This game feels buggier since the newest update.

@last drift Nah got to be read what I just typed out.

I spent FIFTEEN MINUTES

[last drift]

ok, thats just RNG. Dots is a state the ghost goes into via RNG

[onyx pagoda]

And it barely even hunted over a 30 min session.

It hunted like 3 times.

[last drift]

thats like "it didnt roam into the foyer ONCE"

yeah that can happen

[onyx pagoda]

This game needs a rework. Absolute dog shit.

[last drift]

ive spent over 45 minutes waiting for freezing

[gritty dove]

That makes sense for Omambo and how it functions

[last drift]

cause ghosts roam

[gritty dove]

Gotta remember it's hunting threshold changes depending on what state it's in

[last drift]

i think people are forgetting it's supposed to be an investigation, not a raid

[onyx pagoda]

Not according to it's description. "Agressive" "Quicker to hunt", "Calm" "Easier to track" "Slower to hunt". It barely got agressive. Barely hunted. Barely was trackable. Barely anything. It was like I was trying to find a shade 2.0.

Absolute nonsense.

[gritty dove]

It switches between both on a timer. I want to say 2 minutes

[onyx pagoda]

It did nothing except throw objects. Also, highly doubt. Again, it only hunted twice in a 30min session.

[gritty dove]

Yeah, that makes sense. Even if you didn't take any meds whatsoever, it's still stuck in it's calm state for half of the time

Which has a very, very low hunting threshold

[onyx pagoda]

So it's just a shade reskin. Impossible to get evidence for. Cool.

[drifting dust]

It’s a very RNG heavy ghost, that’s all

[last drift]

yeah and gallu is a reverse demon

[drifting dust]

You got bad luck

[gritty dove]

I haven't really struggled with Omambo so far but like swift said, it's an rng heavy ghost

[ocean laurel]

Obambo is the one switching every 2 minutes tho? or am i wrong?

[gritty dove]

Yes

It is

[onyx pagoda]

Which is nonsensical. I'm sorry I shouldn't have to spend a 8 hour shift trying to decipher one ghost, figuratively speaking.

It's a game, not real life.

[ocean laurel]

Factually wrong

[drifting dust]

Process of elimination could’ve helped here, testing for a polty bomb if it was really liking throwing stuff woulda been easy

[onyx pagoda]

Process of elimination. Ah yes. When teo of the evidence is rng based and the other is spirit box. The 3 I had to figure out.

I had 2 down already: UV and writing

[drifting dust]

I didn’t say anything about evidence, I said polty bomb. There’s ghost abilities that coulda helped

[onyx pagoda]

Not much of a process when it's "rng".

[onyx pagoda]

Whatever those are. The game doesn't really tell you much to go off of.

[drifting dust]

If you’re stuck with shitty evidence as your options start eliminating abilities

[ocean laurel]

It does tho. If you get slow/fast hunt speeds in a regular pattern, that's your tell

[onyx pagoda]

Not really? I've had many ghosts do that

Of many types...

The game literally is so trash ass backward that it expects people to just learn it without much of a tutorial or much info given.

[last drift]

yes really, most ghosts have a fixed base speed. and if that speed alternates between hunts....

[drifting dust]

Its an investigation game, you learn as you go, see patterns, get them all down

[edgy echo]

Does the ghost treat the tier 2 firelight as three separate candles for each individual chance to blow them out, or does the ghost just treat them as one whole unit?

[drifting dust]

It’s not meant to be a “know everything when you go in the door” game, you evolve as you play and learn

[last drift]

its an investigation, not a raid. you're an investigator.

[last drift]

one unit

[ocean laurel]

I think you might not be getting the point of the game.

[onyx pagoda]

The game is like leaving a baby chlorine and ammonia and being shocked it died to chloramine because you thought the baby should have inherently just picked up hidden contextual clues to not mix the two.

[last drift]

maybe this game isnt for you. thats ok too.

[drifting dust]

If you don’t like the intentional puzzle aspects of the game, watch videos to learn, or use stuff like the cheat sheet pinned in #fan-creations

[ocean laurel]

If you taught the baby that DOTS means poison at first, that metaphor would work.

[onyx pagoda]

What's funny is, even real investigations still have more info than what this game provides.

[slow spade]

Depends on the experience of the investigator 👀

[onyx pagoda]

No, not really. Books, fellow investigators, etc etc. This game? Here's a shit tutorial on the items, good luck.

[gritty dove]

I think a thing to remember is, you're not meant to win every game

[ocean laurel]

How come thousands of players are pretty well off with the "shitty" tutorial?

[gritty dove]

No one is 'surprised' when you lose or die because that's just part of the game. You play, you lose, you learn, you get better

[drifting dust]

This is a poor example as you are comparing using your own experience in the game, to using outside resources in real life. You can use outside resources in both the game and life, or choose not to in both as well

[last drift]

pokemon go didnt even have a tutorial

[drifting dust]

There is “books” and fellow investigators for this game as well

[last drift]

you learned it all from other players.

At least we have #1254568921110024254

[ocean laurel]

that's wild bro xD

[gritty dove]

And if you want more directed information, well there are people in the community who have that covered. Check out the cheat sheet pinned in #fan-creations as well

[last drift]

"you teach me and I teach you POKEMON!!!!"

[gritty dove]

Don't make me sing it

I'm too tired

[last drift]

im making you sing it

[deep harness]

guys, I got a question. How can I get the doom slayed achievent on steam without driving my self crazy?

[gritty dove]

Dangit

[ocean laurel]

Gotta catch 'em all hey

[last drift]

"I wanna be.. the very best.."

[slow spade]

Drive your self a little crazy instead

[onyx pagoda]

I shouldn't have to resort to outside resources to play a game fully. This game requires that. It should naturally provide players info on exactly how the items work, what is rng/what is not, ghost abilities, etc etc. We ahouldn't resort to outside sources for most of that. It makes the game pointless at that point really.

[last drift]

it does not

[drifting dust]

Best advice? Dont try to get it. Just play and let it happen naturally eventually

[last drift]

it requires you to take note and pay attention, and make your own determinations from investigations.

[ocean laurel]

You can play the game until a certain difficulty level without having knowledge of the game

[onyx pagoda]

Arguable point.

[ocean laurel]

by using equipment as taught in the tutorial.

[deep harness]

the funny thing about it now is that with the new update the possibility of a demon spawning is actually less xD ;-;

[last drift]

we know nothing about the three ghosts from devs and the community unlocked most info in like 24 hours

[drifting dust]

I didn’t use outside resources for almost a year after I started playing. I never felt the need. It’s a puzzle game. I love puzzle games.

[gritty dove]

I only started using outside resources when I wanted to learn 0ev and do Apoc. And then this community was so helpful

[last drift]

lemme repeat that

DEVS SAID NOTHING ABOUT WHAT THE GHOSTS DO

but we are pretty confident in what we know from multiple investigations and testing

[solemn stream]

the only outside resource i use is a stopwatch cuz like why not, everything else is just time and effort and knowledge

[rancid ivy]

Well I figured out why I was stuttering so much. Apparently the cameras, and paramic to a lesser exetnt, are tanking my performance.

[onyx pagoda]

That’s not a defense. If the community had to reverse-engineer core ghost mechanics and solved three of them in 24 hours, that shows the systems are either shallow or poorly communicated. A good game teaches its mechanics through play. Requiring external guides to understand basic functionality isn’t depth; it’s a design failure.

[solemn stream]

(isn't that what we did with the thaye tho?)

[desert spade]

Is there a Suggestions channel for the fanbase?

[bold trail]

Anyone have the difference in upgrade levels of the winter trophy?

[solemn stream]

no

[brazen river]

About to have beef with this ghost, it’s either dots or freezing temps and it keeps changing rooms, it’s between revenant or thaye, i think it’s rev because it’s been over the salt and ghost writing without dots but it could just be stubborn rng

[last drift]

-suggest

[prime elk]

Feedback channels for both major and minor updates will be released occasionally, most often a couple weeks after its release. Please refrain from using other channels as an area to request or submit game ideas until then!

[gritty dove]

How do you think people figure out the mechanics? Through play. There are some dedicated people who enjoy spending their time testing ghost mechanics

[last drift]

And then sharing it with the world

[ocean laurel]

To be fair, the difference between reward multipliers for professional and nightmare should be a bit greater. On nightmare you already need some knowledge of the ghost types and their behaviours. On professional it's pretty much collecting evidence and locking in 😄

[drifting dust]

???

The community managed to solve the intentionally vague ghosts in an intentional puzzle, again it’s a puzzle game

[last drift]

And not gate keeping it behind a paywall

[gritty dove]

But you don't have to use their resources. You can do your own tests

[last drift]

They didn't reverse engineer anything , they just did constant testing.

[solemn stream]

the journal is vague on purpose so new players can learn as they go, that's literally the point of the game

[last drift]

It's kind of hard not to notice that the ghost Suddenly doesn't walk through salt when it's moving much faster

[drifting dust]

As much as I recommend the cheat sheet in #fan-creations I have never used it more than a handful of times, and that was just to have a better understanding of what I’m recommending

[rancid ivy]

I primarily use it for the stopwatch feature or when I need to remember a certain room on a map.

[onyx pagoda]

Yes, but there’s a difference between learning through intended gameplay and systematic brute-force testing. When understanding requires hundreds of controlled tests, spreadsheets, and probability tracking, that’s no longer normal play. That’s players compensating for missing or poorly communicated design.

[ocean laurel]

I even coded my own "Phasmophobia Timer Helper" to fully profit xD

[onyx pagoda]

A puzzle game still provides in-game logic, feedback, and constraints.
If the only way to solve the “puzzle” is out-of-game aggregation and mass testing, then the puzzle isn’t designed for the player, it’s designed for the community as a hive mind.

[drifting dust]

This game provides all of that?

[solemn stream]

but that's what the game is. test, learn, die, get better, test more

[drifting dust]

I legitimately think you just might not like this game, and that’s fine

[rancid ivy]

The puzzle part is already given, that being the primary evidences. The behaviors are there to help identify it when evidence isn't present, and that is generally considered advanced knowledge/gameplay for many players.

[onyx pagoda]

If it provided sufficient in-game logic and feedback, the community wouldn’t have had to document hidden behaviors that aren’t explained anywhere in the journal. Evidence types are explained. Ghost mechanics largely aren’t.

[gritty dove]

You don't have to do any of that. You have gather information on your own, as you go. As you do more contracts, you'd eventually figure out on your own that hey, that ghost just changed into a different model for a second. Or Hey it's changed speeds. Wonder why.

[solemn stream]

because you're meant to figure it out as you go, that's the puzzle part

[gritty dove]

And you don't even need to learn any of that. If you just want to do 3 evidence, you can totally do that. And yes, sometimes evidence is more easily gotten than others. That's part of it being a game

[onyx pagoda]

That still supports my point. If behaviors are used to identify ghosts when evidence isn’t present, then they’re part of the core puzzle, not optional flavor. Yet the game doesn’t meaningfully teach those behaviors in-game. The journal provides an evidence checklist and vague descriptions, but it does not explain most conditional mechanics, hidden traits, or how to reliably observe them.
In a puzzle game, “advanced gameplay” usually means applying known rules in more complex ways, not discovering entirely new, undocumented rules through trial-and-error or external resources. When players have to isolate variables, run repeated tests, and aggregate results to understand how ghosts behave, that isn’t mastery of the puzzle, it’s reverse engineering the system.
Evidence alone isn’t the whole puzzle if the game is balanced around behavior-based identification. Labeling those mechanics as “advanced knowledge” doesn’t change the fact that they aren’t communicated through gameplay. A well-designed puzzle escalates difficulty by increasing complexity, not by withholding information and relying on the community to document it.

[rugged tundra]

bro what

[ocean laurel]

It's like choosing to play Resident Evil on Nightmare and then complaining about getting less ammo. If you stay on professional and below, it's all chill. If you play above, the game requires some experience first.

[solemn stream]

you want to be handheld in a game that throws a curveball at lvl 30 players just because?

[last drift]

If behaviors are used to identify ghosts when evidence isn’t present, then they’re part of the core puzzle

its actually not. The core is getting the three evidences

you SHOULD be learning ghost traits to possibly eliminate or confirm other ghosts earlier, or in later difficulties.

[onyx pagoda]

That analogy doesn’t work. Higher difficulty assumes mastery of known systems. Phasmophobia’s “advanced” gameplay relies on undocumented mechanics. That isn’t difficulty scaling, it’s withholding information and expecting players to infer the rules.

[gritty dove]

It's an investigation game. It wants you to figure things out instead of spelling it out for you

And it's totally fine if that's not for you, that's why people provide resources. As I always say, whatever playstyle you prefer is valid

[onyx pagoda]

Investigation still requires clues. Figuring things out means interpreting information the game provides, not discovering undocumented rules through mass testing. When the only reliable way to learn mechanics is community aggregation, that’s not investigation, it’s reverse engineering.

[rugged tundra]

why are we complaining about ghost abilities

[drifting dust]

The journal descriptions of ghosts provide all the clues you need

[tiny summit]

[gritty dove]

But again, it's not. You could absolutely figure out ghost mechanics as you go. It doesn't need the community resources. Those are just there if you want them

[onyx pagoda]

Honestly, you all defending the game just because you spent time figuring out undocumented mechanics is a sunk cost fallacy. Spending effort does not make the design good. It only shows that you worked around poor communication.

[gritty dove]

Oh I had nothing to do with things like the cheat sheet. I just play the game and have fun

[onyx pagoda]

Sure, you can learn mechanics on your own, but that requires guesswork and repeated testing because the game doesn’t teach them. Optional community resources don’t fix poor communication.

[gritty dove]

This is correct. An investigation game requires you figuring things out as you go

And you're totally valid for not enjoying that, but that's what the game is

[solemn stream]

it's not poor communication, it's purposefully vague

[ocean laurel]

The fact that this is the case makes up for (i would say) 90% of why people love this game.

[onyx pagoda]

Hold up… did you just prove my argument for me?

[gritty dove]

I never claimed you weren't allowed to not enjoy a certain type of game

Not all games are for everyone, and that's okay

[last drift]

Optional community resources don’t fix poor communication.

It's not meant as a "replacement"

It's a "resource"

This is like complaining your teacher didnt give you all the resoruces and sent you to the library

[onyx pagoda]

Enjoying the process doesn’t change that it’s a design flaw. Making players do guesswork and repeated testing to understand core mechanics is still poor communication. Liking it personally doesn’t make the systems well-designed.

[last drift]

Not liking it doesnt make the systems poorly-designed

[ocean laurel]

You don‘t need to do guesswork to understand how a DOTS projector works

[onyx pagoda]

Optional resources are fine, but they don’t excuse the game failing to teach its own mechanics. A game should provide the fundamentals in-game first, not outsource them.

[last drift]

it does teach you the fundamentals. thats the tutorial.\

[solemn stream]

just uninstall the game if you hate it that much, then you can go about your day unbothered by "design-flaws"

[gritty dove]

The base gameplay was actually 3 evidence. Lesser evidence came in and that added a lot to the gameplay but you're not forced to play that way. But yes, part of playing on lesser evidence is testing, figuring mechanics out as you go. That's investigating.

[last drift]

the game is positioned as a social puzzle game. you're supposed to do your own research because the journal itself is vauge and can be misinterpreted

[onyx pagoda]

The in‑game tutorial teaches you how to use tools and gather evidence, but it does not teach most ghost behaviors, special traits, or how to interpret conditional mechanics. Players often have to figure those out through repeated play, testing, or external resources because the game doesn’t explain them fully in‑game, so saying the tutorial covers the fundamentals is only partly true.

[last drift]

The in‑game tutorial teaches you how to use tools and gather evidence,

The literal fundamentals. you arent required to "know" any of the ghost behaviours to "stay in the lgiht keep sanity high, hide during hunts, and gather three evidences"

[onyx pagoda]

Being a “social puzzle” doesn’t excuse the lack of in-game clarity. If players have to misinterpret, guess, or research externally to understand ghost mechanics, that’s a design flaw, not intentional depth.

[ocean laurel]

So every other game spoonfed every single item/mechanic/.. to you ingame?

[last drift]

intentionally building the game as a social puzzle game isn't a design flaw.

[onyx pagoda]

Not every game spoonfeeds, but good games provide clues and feedback so you can learn mechanics in-game. Phasmophobia largely doesn’t, which is why players have to test or use community guides.

[gritty dove]

And you don't have to do outside of the game research. If you want to do lesser evidence and don't want to use the knowledge of those who came before you, you can absolutely do what they did and figure it out through trying things.

[solemn stream]

phas does provide clues. vague ones that you have to figure out the meaning of

[last drift]

pokemon go didnt

[onyx pagoda]

Social puzzle or not, the game still has to teach the rules. Leaving them undocumented is poor design.

[last drift]

you didnt learn how to get three evidences?

you werent taught that staying in the light maintains sanity better?

[ocean laurel]

There are tons of games which aren‘t even designed to be a social puzzle and still do the same.

[solemn stream]

you must hate subnautica then

[onyx pagoda]

[ocean laurel]

what other games do you play regularly if i may ask?

[last drift]

If this is his review for phasmo, i'd hate to see him try Space Station 14, or Dwarf Fortress

[onyx pagoda]

This also smells like effort justification. People defend the game because they spent so much time figuring out undocumented mechanics, convincing themselves that makes the design good.

[solemn stream]

dark souls, hollow night, subnautica, shadow of the colossus, outer wilds, and limbo all do the same; throw you in the deep end and leave you to figure out the ropes on your own. are they also "flawed"?

[ocean laurel]

Who judges whether a design is good or not?

[last drift]

Rocket League doesnt teach you jack except where the boost button is and how to steer

[thorny gorge]

I love how buggy this game is sometimes, just got a Jinn which turned off the breaker box

[last drift]

Noita is notoriously undocumented

devs dont tell you shit

[ocean laurel]

Noi-what? 😂

[solemn stream]

jinn can turn on one light too many and overload the breaker

[last drift]

Noita

[gritty dove]

It doesn't occur to you maybe people enjoyed that time, and it's what they want out of a game?

[thorny gorge]

we played on medium map and only had like 3 lights on

[onyx pagoda]

Those games give you feedback and consistent rules so you can learn organically. Phasmophobia doesn’t teach most ghost mechanics, so figuring them out requires reverse engineering, not deduction.

[last drift]

2D action rogue-lite/platformer, but every pixel is alive and simulated

[last drift]

no, dark souls teaches you how to swing and dodge, you dont get detailed hit mechanics for damage calculation without going to the internet

and some bosses you just NEED to talk to someone about to figure out their "pattern"

[gritty dove]

Honestly? I think my favourite part of the game was when I didn't know most of the things and slowly getting better. It's why I enjoy seeing new people learning the game now. Everything still being new and being surprised by mechanics is so fun

[last drift]

sorry but no. I fucking hate dark souls for how punishing it is to new players

[solemn stream]

it probably turned on small lights you didn't notice

[onyx pagoda]

Learning Dark Souls’ systems is intentional; figuring out ghost behaviors in Phasmophobia is reverse engineering because the game doesn’t explain them.

[last drift]

"ghost moves fast when it sees me, otherwise it's slow" doesn't really need reverse engineering

it took the community 24 hours of note taking and observations to detail the three new ghosts

[solemn stream]

subnautica says "hey this place has scary creatures" and then you die. that's not feedback or a rule

[onyx pagoda]

That’s true for obvious behaviors like basic speed changes, but most ghost mechanics aren’t that simple. Things like how and when a ghost hunts, interaction with environmental triggers, rare abilities, and behavior variations are not explained in-game. Players have to test and aggregate data across many sessions to reliably understand these mechanics. That’s what qualifies as reverse engineering, not noticing a single speed change.

[brazen river]

Hollow knight’s tutorial is literally how to move, attack, heal, read lore, hidden walls exist and equip charms. It doesn’t teach you pogo and that is a required skill in some areas of the game

[ocean laurel]

But you don‘t need all that to play the game.

[last drift]

also in about 1 week the developers themselves will drop full lore,

[onyx pagoda]

Subnautica’s systems behave consistently, so you can learn them in-game. Phasmophobia’s ghost mechanics are mostly undocumented, forcing external testing or guides to understand the rules.

[last drift]

they literally let the community Investigate first.

thats not "poor design choice"

Thats "letting you play the damn role"

[onyx pagoda]

The fact that the developers might eventually explain everything doesn’t change that the game currently forces players to guess, test, or rely on community resources. Good design teaches its systems through gameplay in real time, not by postponing explanations until later. Waiting a week for lore doesn’t retroactively fix the poor communication players have to navigate now.

[ocean laurel]

But that‘s not true

If you hate it that much, there is three difficulty levels to play on. Noone forces you to play with less than 3 pcs of evidence

[rancid ivy]

The ghosts in Phas behave pretty consistently too. Wraiths don't step in salt, Revs are slow when not looking for someone, Banshees target only one player at a time, Goryo DOTS can't be seen without a cam, Shades stop existing when in the same room as someone, etc.

[onyx pagoda]

Playing a role is not the same as hiding core mechanics. The game still needs to teach its rules so players can interact meaningfully, not guess or rely on community resources.

[last drift]

man i get it, it's not in the game and you dont wanna visit a wiki or read a walkthrough.

Poor design choie.

all games should be fully documented upon release.

[onyx pagoda]

I’m not asking for full documentation. I’m saying the game should teach its core systems in-game. Phasmophobia doesn’t, which forces reverse engineering—that’s poor design.

[last drift]

god Mortal Kombat would've pissed him off.
They didnt tell you what the secret button combos were

[brazen river]

Also, the two ghosts it was between for you was poltergeist and obambo? It literally says in the journal “strengths: can throw multiple objects with great force” under poltergeist and for obambo that it “changes between agressive and calm states” “hunts faster when aggressive” and “hunts slower when calm”. I had an obambo a few rounds ago and you could clearly see it switch between states on the activity board and “hunts faster/slower” is a pretty clear reference to sanity threshold .

[elfin musk]

Is the tier 2 head gear worth 10k if I only got 13k

[solemn stream]

No

[red oracle]

yeah it's pretty good

[last drift]

save it, i prefer t2 but save it

[onyx pagoda]

Secret combos are optional content. Ghost behaviors are core mechanics. Hiding essential rules is poor design, not a clever secret.

[solemn stream]

Like I said. If you don’t like how the game is played, you can just not play it.

[onyx pagoda]

[elfin musk]

Tier 2 is the one with the flashlight right?

[red oracle]

yes

[elfin musk]

Dang I kinda want that 🫠 but id be so broke ig ill waittt

[ocean laurel]

It‘s the point of the game to not be „spoonfed“ every single thing.

[last drift]

all the special moves are optional?

[red oracle]

funny reading this comment I JUST came from the subnautica discord lol

[last drift]

like all of them? they didnt tell you how to do scorpions harpoon or sub zero's freeze. you had to learn on your own.

[gritty dove]

Part of what people enjoy about the game is figuring out how a ghost functions. You may not enjoy that, and that's totally okay. But it is an intentional part of the game that people enjoy. A large part of the community enjoys investigating instead of getting handed the answers. And those that prefer a little more documentation then tend to use the results of the investigations done by others.

It's totally fine if you don't enjoy it. There are many games where I don't enjoy how they do things. Doesn't mean it's a bad game, I just don't like how that particular game is intended to be played

[honest talon]

I can hardly wait for the Switch 2 port of this game to launch. Gonna have so much fun playing on this game on the go.

[last drift]

im terrified it'll be locked to 30 fps

[gritty dove]

Eh

I could work with that

I used to be grateful if I got a game to 25 fps

[honest talon]

Meh. I couldn't care less about the FPS. 30+ and I'm comfortable.

[onyx pagoda]

Enjoying figuring things out is fine, but it doesn’t change that the game doesn’t teach its core systems. That’s still poor communication, not clever design.

[solemn stream]

Games are art. Art is subjective. Games are subjective.

[red oracle]

your name color is sooooo pretty :0

[solemn stream]

Just play something you actually like

[last drift]

now do a write up about pokemon go

[brazen river]

Switch 2 can run things at 60 fps, it’s more the switch 1 that’s locked at 30 fps and based on the advertising it’s a switch 2 exclusive iirc

[ocean laurel]

It teaches you how to use all the equipment in the tutorial and never forces you to play a mode where that alone isn‘t sufficient to make progress.

[gritty dove]

The core systems are: Ghosts have evidence you can find with equipment. You also have protective equipment. Ghosts also have other mechanics, and those are vaguely referenced in the journal. That's the core

[last drift]

wait til i tell you about Skyrim for switch 2

[honest talon]

You're having a hard time with this game? Really? I learned all of the mechanics pretty much right away and that was years before the 1.0 launch.

[last drift]

its locked at 30fps.

[last drift]

they're upset theres no documentation about the ghosts

[solemn stream]

Um it’s not in 1.0 yet

[brazen river]

I said can not will but fair

[onyx pagoda]

Sure, the journal lists evidence and protective equipment, but most ghost behaviors aren’t explained. Players are left guessing or using community guides, which is poor communication.

[honest talon]

Oh, my mistake. Guess I figured it should be by now.

[last drift]

it can. but thats why im scared, that it wont be

[onyx pagoda]

Odd how everyone is different right? Almost like that's basic science and psychology.

[honest talon]

There's plenty of documentation in the Journal for me.

[last drift]

to be fair you're the only one making these comments over the past hour

[gritty dove]

Because again, part of the core gameplay is figuring out what those mechanics are. You're not meant to just have all that info

[solemn stream]

I’m expecting 1.0 to probably release this time next year

[gritty dove]

Man I miss when I didn't know all the info. The first time I identified a wraith without evidence was so exciting

[onyx pagoda]

I’m fine being the minority here. I’m criticizing the design, not the players who enjoy it.

[rancid ivy]

There is one thing that I wish the journal did, and that's allowing players to have a "Detailed Notes" section at the end. When you've figured out a ghost enough times, possibly when witnessing a ghost trait/ability, then the player "records" that per each ghost. This way you're slowly discovering more about the ghosts.

That would probably be the middle ground here.

[honest talon]

Sweet.

[ocean laurel]

Who says that the design is bad though?

[solemn stream]

There’s nothing wrong with the game. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s bad

[little mica]

what channels has drops?

[gritty dove]

No drops are active

[last drift]

Currently none of them

[solemn stream]

I don’t like broccoli. That doesn’t mean broccoli is evil and should be burned

[onyx pagoda]

I do, based on clear design principles. A well-designed game teaches its core systems through gameplay and provides meaningful feedback. Phasmophobia leaves most ghost behaviors undocumented and forces players to guess, test, or rely on community resources. That lack of in-game communication is objectively a design flaw, not a matter of personal taste.

[last drift]

And again , you're the only one in the last hour......

[little mica]

oh

[dusk field]

Broccoli is green like grass

[onyx pagoda]

I’m not saying the game is bad because I personally dislike it. I’m saying it has design flaws. A game can be enjoyable while still failing to communicate its core systems effectively. Phasmophobia leaves most ghost behaviors undocumented, forcing players to guess, test, or rely on community resources. That’s objectively poor communication, not opinion.

[red oracle]

@gritty dove I like your profile theme!

[ocean laurel]

It doesn‘t have design flaws if it is designed to be like this.

[gritty dove]

Thank you!

[onyx pagoda]

Whether I’m the only one saying it or not is irrelevant. Arguments don’t become wrong because they’re unpopular. If the design communicated its mechanics clearly in-game, you could point to that instead of pointing to how many people disagree.

[solemn stream]

*subjectively. It’s your opinion and therefore subjective

[onyx pagoda]

Just because something is intentional doesn’t mean it’s well-designed. Leaving essential mechanics undocumented is still a flaw, even if that was the plan.

[solemn stream]

We’re going in circles

[onyx pagoda]

Design critique isn’t purely subjective. Leaving essential mechanics undocumented is objectively poor communication.

[ocean laurel]

Name a perfect game then.

[solemn stream]

Its objective if a decently sized group is saying it. Its subjective when you’re the only person with this view

[onyx pagoda]

I’m not saying games must be perfect. I’m saying Phasmophobia has flaws that force players to reverse engineer mechanics instead of learning them in-game.

[onyx pagoda]

Design flaws aren’t subjective based on how many people agree. The game either communicates its core systems effectively or it doesn’t.

[ocean laurel]

And that‘s completely fine. But you have had a handful of people tell you that it‘s designed to be like that and 3 hours of playtime to refund the game on Steam.

[rancid ivy]

A nice middle ground would be for the journal to have a "Detailed Notes" section at the end that players fill out as they investigate specific ghosts more and more. The added details don't need to be hyper specific, but it would give more context for specific ghosts.

For example, the additional notes don't need to specify "Twins are actually just one ghost with two different interaction ranges" but it could mention that one twin hunts faster than most ghosts, and the other is slower.

[honest talon]

Honestly, this is one of the thing I love most about the game. It doesn't hold my hand. It forces me to think about my next course of action.

[minor merlin]

i can get behind that, but I think the game is more of learning with peers and on your own, not being taught every little thing
thats how I learned a lot of the little silly things, it forces you to think for yourself, its why i like it
but im also a big fan of games that dont hold your hand

kinda how I feel about cult of the lamb, teaches you some stuff before you have to learn mechanics and tech on your own

[onyx pagoda]

You've had time to learn this isn't my first rodeo. Yet, unlike me, you fail to do research. While I am out here researching.

[ocean laurel]

What research did i not do?

[rancid ivy]

I will say this. There are definitely some things in the game/journal that could be clarified better, but we also just shouldn't give away everything because then there's no real mystery to the ghosts anymore.

[onyx pagoda]

In a game like Subnautica, the core system is survival. You learn through exploration, but the systems themselves behave consistently and predictably. In an investigation game like Phasmophobia, the point is to investigate, but that should still happen based on known or learnable rules. Leaving most ghost mechanics undocumented forces players to guess or reverse engineer, which is fundamentally different from learning through consistent in-game feedback.

[minor merlin]

I disagree, but I respect your comparison/opinion, some people just have different thoughts on what is effective and what isn't and that's all the convo is

criticism is important for a game to receive either way, even if the public has disagreeing opinions on it

[honest talon]

But the ghost mechanics aren't undocumented. They are literally in the rin-game Journal. They tell you how the ghosts act and what kinds of evidence they exhibit. It's pretty straight-forward. The only wild-cards are Mimic and The Twins.

[onyx pagoda]

Fair enough. We just see what counts as good design differently, but the points about undocumented mechanics still stand

[tame bloom]

What are the maps for winters jest today?

[round oasis]

Don't rely on the notebook for hints, it leaves most the valuable stuff out

[minor merlin]

I think they're referring to things that aren't documented- such as speed, or for example, how many times a candle goes out till an onryo hunts, etc.
the notebook isn't all that useful imo, most of what i learned was from actual game mechanics, not the notebook

[onyx pagoda]

Yes, the in‑game Journal lists evidence and basic ghost traits, and you can use that to identify ghosts. But the detailed behaviors, special interactions, and hidden rules aren’t clearly taught in‑game. Many players discover those through testing or guides, and even the Journal descriptions are considered vague by some. That’s why people often use external resources.

[honest talon]

Ah. I get ya.

[minor merlin]

tbh as much as I did learn a lot off of just gaming..
yeah I use the cheat sheet
the mimic is my number 1 nemesis tbh

[ocean laurel]

I hate to repeat myself but you can play the game without knowing all this.

[honest talon]

I suppose the Journal COULD be better.

[onyx pagoda]

The real issue is that the game asks players to remember and track too much information without providing enough in-game tools or feedback to do so effectively. That’s objectively a poor design choice. People defend it not because it’s well-designed, but because they’ve already invested time learning the mechanics on their own. Enjoying that grind doesn’t retroactively fix the underlying flaw.

[ocean laurel]

Ye the journal is made in a rather „narrative“ view

[dusk field]

Mimic is the worst unless on zero evidence it's a good one

[minor merlin]

absolutely agree
I DESPISE mimics and raijus, just because raijus have always screwed me over.
like alright dude. I have a few devices on and you're already tweaking out </3

[gritty dove]

It doesn't occur to you people might defend it because they ENJOY that time invested in figuring things out?

[ocean laurel]

You can play the game without any sort of research. If you wanna play at a certain level, you gotta put in some effort.

[onyx pagoda]

Sure, some people enjoy the process, and that’s fine. But enjoying something doesn’t automatically make it well-designed. A game can be fun while still forcing players to guess, test, and track mechanics without proper in-game guidance. That lack of communication is objectively a design flaw, even if the grind is enjoyable.

[dusk field]

My worst nightmare is a young ass thaye

[onyx pagoda]

Playing without research is possible, but the game still forces players to figure out undocumented mechanics. That’s poor communication, regardless of the effort involved.

[honest talon]

There are two ghosts that absolutely scare the bejeebus out of me, and that's Demon and Revenant. They can both initiate a hunt any time they want. I had a demon kill me like 2 minutes into a match once. That was nuts.

[rancid ivy]

Well I already posted a suggestion for the journal to reach a middle ground there but it seems like people are just going to conveniently ignore it.

[ocean laurel]

It doesn‘t.

[graceful goblet]

Have there been changes made to the sanity drain rate? I feel like it is different now, we've had cases where our sanity is much lower than I think it should've been and the ghosts haven't been anything that would effect it. Although we've also had sanity higher than I thought it should be

[ocean laurel]

It doesn‘t force you to do ANYTHING.

[minor merlin]

you're so based... I remember opening a door once, immediately getting flashbanged by a bunch of thrown objects and then a few minutes later getting a ghost event. oh boy. I immediately called it a thaye and left, I'd rather take the gamble of getting it wrong then deal with those little shits