#Senpai Events

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nimble zephyr
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no!!! you have too much ego for making new players suffer!!

mighty venture
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And learn all the tips and tricks from others

halcyon topaz
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dude i can get frustrated at anything in life

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does that mean i shouldnt live anymore

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idgi

mighty venture
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Like if people asked me for help I’ll gladly give them advice and all the stuff I know

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If they don’t wanna learn? If they’re not hampering my ability to clear then I don’t care

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If they are hampering my ability to clear I’m kicking them lol it’s not my fault I put in the time and effort and someone else wants to be babied to endgame

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And put in o effort at all

west zodiac
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a tutrial doesnt give up on ppl

mighty venture
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Most players don’t give on up others

west zodiac
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only ppl give up

mighty venture
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Unless they’re actively going out of their way

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To not wanna learn

west zodiac
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which is what i want to prevent

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because if not they get filitered by the game

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rather then the community

halcyon topaz
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you arent gonna prevent people giving up by adding a tutorial

mighty venture
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If they don’t wanna learn? They don’t wanna learn. A tutorial dungeon isn’t gonna help them.

halcyon topaz
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theyre just gonna give up on the tutorial

west zodiac
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then so be it

nimble zephyr
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if they aren't willing to learn then they are gonna give up at tutorial anyways

mighty venture
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Yeah. Then so be it.

west zodiac
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atleast they didnt ruin others runs

sage locust
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the tutorial dungeon might not "give up" on them but they're not going to complete the tutorial

nimble zephyr
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like then it's net 0 impact

sage locust
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your end result is still the same

halcyon topaz
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wdym 'then so be it' isnt that the entire issue you wanted to solve?

sage locust
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new person doesn't know mechanics

halcyon topaz
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if your solution doesnt fix the problem then whats the point

nimble zephyr
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this entire thread is literally addressing the issue that senpai event has

mighty venture
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If they ruin my run the worst is I lose a little bit of time but at least I don’t mind explaining mechanics and whatnot

west zodiac
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it's not like normal

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or story

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you cannot be carried through

sage locust
mighty venture
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Like if someone wipes my party it’s literally whatever as long as it doesn’t happen multiple times

sage locust
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unless you're telling me the game is gonna jail players in tutorial and not even allow them to quit

mighty venture
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If they want a refresher or someone to explain the mechs I’ll gladly do it

sage locust
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xd

west zodiac
mighty venture
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But your point is just a contradiction

west zodiac
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but cannot continue on past

halcyon topaz
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then that does nothing

west zodiac
halcyon topaz
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those who clear wouldve cleared on their own anyway

mighty venture
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If they don’t want to learn that’s simply just a case of they don’t want to learn and want to be babied to endgame and a tutorial dungeon quite literally does nothing

west zodiac
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it wont ruin other ppl exprience

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just that single person

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that doesnt wanna learn

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which i mean heck you all said it

mighty venture
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If they don’t want to learn

west zodiac
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they';d be kicked anyways

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so why not let the game do it

mighty venture
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It’s the party leaders responsibility to either teach them, or hear me out… kick them

soft jungleBOT
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salttracer has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

west zodiac
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because they'll have done it

mighty venture
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Yeah it’s a waste of time but everyone in the party has learned a valuable lesson… not to take that person

halcyon topaz
# west zodiac server pow wow i see

just because people come to the same conclusion does not imply 'pow wow'. you are just lacking the necessary logic to defend your point. if your point is airtight enough then it wouldnt matter in the first place either if it was 'pow wow' or not

mighty venture
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Dude are you ignoring the part where I’ve said multiple times that I’m willing to teach them if they’re willing to learn

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Sorry but I think you’re literally tuning things out

west zodiac
mighty venture
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Ok so what are you saying then

halcyon topaz
mighty venture
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You’re literally saying the opposite of my point

west zodiac
mighty venture
west zodiac
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now you'll remeber the name

mighty venture
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Should’ve been willing to learn

west zodiac
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and even if they do get better

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it's rip for them

nimble zephyr
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yo no way I just got into a job but I wasn't willing to learn and didn't get better and they fired me
they gave me multiple chances but I ignored all of them
it's company's fault for not giving me more chance!!!

halcyon topaz
west zodiac
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or we could prevent it

mighty venture
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If they do get better then good job I’ve seen multiple people come back to endgame improved

west zodiac
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from the get go

mighty venture
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And leave some people’s blacklist

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If they don’t want to learn they deserve to be outed

west zodiac
west zodiac
mighty venture
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How would you feel if I was in your serp party and wiped your party 200 times and didn’t apologize or ask for help on certain mechanics?

west zodiac
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better then not knowing at all

mighty venture
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And then if they’re confused about something they’re not gonna ask for help regarding that mechanic

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Oh boy we are back to square one

nimble zephyr
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yea hes gonna be like

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"same argument again wow"

mighty venture
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Yeah cuz it is

nimble zephyr
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yea cuz you never answered them logically

west zodiac
sage locust
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they're also still gonna hit a wall the moment they see content w/o tutorial dungeon

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assuming kog has the resources and is willing to implement tutorial dungeons at all (which i doubt)

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like at best i think maybe they'd update text prompts in solo/story mode or something

west zodiac
mighty venture
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My entire point is as long as they try to learn, even if it’s scuffed I do not mind helping teaching them learn. When they don’t want to learn it’s an issue, and if they don’t want to learn in the first place they’re not gonna use a tutorial dungeon or ask for help with community resources

halcyon topaz
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like theres no way his arguments A and B were
A: “we cant know until it’s implemented.”
B: "it'll help future proof content and relieve community pressure"

and when i say A and B contradict so unless you agree that we can know to some extent before its implemented that itll be a bad idea

he goes, so we agree that im right because we know itll help future proof

mighty venture
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If you need extra help you’re always free to ask the community

west zodiac
mighty venture
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Most people in the endgame community have dedicated a lot of time polishing their mechanics and getting better at raids and the game, and most people I know including me personally are willing to help as long as we are asked and can point to others

nimble zephyr
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yea some people are just having fun, some people wants to clear dungeon, and theres nothing wrong with either
and there is nothing wrong with intentionally not playing with certain individual that doesn't want to learn and deters you from clearing the dungeon too

west zodiac
west zodiac
mighty venture
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Idk it might just be me but I’ve never seen someone wipe a party and then they get insta kicked

west zodiac
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just wanna add a system to make it so you dont even see those players nor have to deal with them

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if we look past the babyfeed

mighty venture
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Even in the random parties I join

nimble zephyr
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yea and if they don't want to learn, it's not the game's responsibility to force them to learn

west zodiac
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even if we just say it'll filter them

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now you dont have to block

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now you dont have to ask

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but no one gets their day ruined or exprience fried by those types again

halcyon topaz
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ok but is els a singleplayer game

mighty venture
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So what now if there’s a tutorial we just assume they’ve done it

halcyon topaz
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you're basically saying to not interact with the community ever

west zodiac
west zodiac
mighty venture
halcyon topaz
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whenever theres any interaction between different people there are going to be disagreements

west zodiac
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you've already cleared all major content

mighty venture
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Even then it feels limiting

west zodiac
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you would never even have ot ruin it

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limiting with a purpose

mighty venture
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Like just something to explain skill tiers would be fine, all the extra stuff like a tutorial feels limiting as a new player

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Especially since 90% of mechs aren’t even seen nowadays in older content

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And again it’s just an experience thing lol

west zodiac
nimble zephyr
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you literally said

mighty venture
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???

west zodiac
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and it may be content that is ignored

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but we still need them to interact with it

nimble zephyr
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challenge raid is an exception because it is supposed to be a "challenge" and you give example from a challenge raid

west zodiac
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for later down the road knowledge

mighty venture
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You just said challenge is different as it’s supposed to be challenging

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And give an example

west zodiac
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challenge is different

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but rosso is still rosso

halcyon topaz
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LMAO

west zodiac
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no matter what content it is

mighty venture
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Ok but normal rosso and challenge rosso play completely differently

west zodiac
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they still have some staples

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even just preknowing the mechs

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is better then not

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imagine having to rerun normal rosso

mighty venture
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The issue is

west zodiac
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cause you've never seen it

mighty venture
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If u try to do things from normal rosso in challenge rosso

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You’re just either gonna heal heal boss

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Make a hole

halcyon topaz
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knowing mechs beforehand is very beneficial

mighty venture
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Die

halcyon topaz
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yes i can say that for sure

mighty venture
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And wipe the party

halcyon topaz
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from personal experience

halcyon topaz
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yet still learned craid mechs just fine

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so whats the issue

nimble zephyr
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im still pretty new to the game

west zodiac
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he is but one example yumi and that's great to hear you've done well for yourself

nimble zephyr
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yea and I wanted to learn

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so I learned

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from resources that I have been given

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whats wrong with that?

halcyon topaz
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theres numerous examples of people ive seen join way after rosso era

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and then learn crosso mechs just fine

mighty venture
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Also has been helped through content and the newer players have actually put in the time to learn the game

west zodiac
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ive got a person i know who no matter what know's mechs and everything is the go getter type and yet still struggles but is the shut in type

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doesnt like to ask heck they dont even use their voice in vc a total mute

halcyon topaz
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im gonna use your argument against you

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just dont be like that lmao

west zodiac
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it is but one person

mighty venture
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If they don’t like to ask, I’m sorry but that’s on them. I hated to do it too at first but it’s an mmo. You’re gonna have to interact with people regardless

west zodiac
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dont be sad

halcyon topaz
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dude was that not your own argument

nimble zephyr
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lmao

mighty venture
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If they don’t wanna ask a question and they ask you and you don’t know, you should help them by asking in their place. I’ve done that multiple times as well

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but unfortunately that’s just on them

sage locust
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we have chatbox in game

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NA just doesn't like reading.

mighty venture
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True.

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Hey man I read chatbox too

west zodiac
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it is what it is you can have both community and in game but ive said that peice i just feel like you guys want community only which isnt helping at this current time and point

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will it wont it

mighty venture
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I mean yeah in game

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The guide is pretty messy so updating it is fine

west zodiac
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i want that book they have in there

mighty venture
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But again adding stuff like a tutorial mode and let’s say the person has a question about it

west zodiac
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that's not used ever to be filled and usefull for more then basic stuff

mighty venture
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Regardless they have to go to the community

sage locust
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i mean i think it's fine for them to add pages introducing skill tiers in the book

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i just don't see why they need to make a whole new mode for people to use

mighty venture
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Like yeah stuff like skill tiers should be explained

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But not a whole new tutorial dungeon

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When solo raids exist especially

sage locust
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like if anything they could update solo/story mode w more text prompts maybe

west zodiac
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sadly solo raid is just as good a teacher as story which isnt very much from the pov's ppl be talking from

sage locust
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but i don't see a reason to implement an entirely new mode

west zodiac
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perhaps epic npcs

sage locust
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yk we have guides with gifs right

mighty venture
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I mean

west zodiac
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to show you where to stand?

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if it's a stand here mech

mighty venture
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Solo you can quite literally just not DPS the boss and wait for a mech lol

west zodiac
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hp thresholds

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and the buff gets stronger

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the longer your inside

sage locust
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if you rly wanna see mechs alone

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u could yk

west zodiac
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you could literally skip\

sage locust
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take off your weapon

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until you get mech

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💀

nimble zephyr
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yea and if you wanna learn you don't have to dps the boss

mighty venture
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Hp threshold mechs aren’t rly relevant until serpentium

hollow stirrup
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@wanton cradle this true?

mighty venture
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Otherwise it’s just a minor change

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For example 15-6-3

halcyon topaz
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also back to the argument about knowing mechs and having experience in dng helps a lot.

i was pretty late to join craids. i think it was around near the end of 2023 when i started with craids which was after the first set of nerfs due to personal reasons. i literally spent the few hours before running my first crosso studying up on guides and asking more experienced players clarifications on mechs.

i ended up dying less than people who were way more experienced in the pty anyway.

mighty venture
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^ also when I was struggling with cross thorn I went into rosso story with a friend and we practiced cross thorn until we got it down lol

halcyon topaz
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if you see a disparity in how good a player is in the game

west zodiac
halcyon topaz
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most of the time

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its an effort diff

west zodiac
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only after now do i play it but that's because it actually will eventually pay out

halcyon topaz
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not a difference between whats available to them either

west zodiac
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and as for 15-6 dont have hp weapon and honestly heard to many things from so many ppl majority of them in that content are the ppl who would talk behind your back as soon as you left VC im good on that

mighty venture
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Haven’t rly heard much of that lol

west zodiac
mighty venture
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If ur in those groups that kinda sucks but cant rly relate personally

halcyon topaz
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i dont think ive used an hp weap in 15-6 challenge

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ever

mighty venture
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Who knows I could do better with my time then talk trash about another player, especially someone who’s willing to learn the mechanics :)

west zodiac
mighty venture
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I try my best to be nothing but helpful but if they disregard the help I’m giving someone I could care less because I would rather use my energy doing something else

west zodiac
mighty venture
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I know I’ve been talked about behind my back too but I literally don’t care enough

vestal nexus
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Hi dannie that other guy 🗣️

delicate coral
mighty venture
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🗣️🗣️🗣️

delicate coral
mighty venture
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Honestly ever since 8 man buff share hp weapon kinda whatever

west zodiac
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i do remember that talk of making challenge 6 man with you still

nimble zephyr
west zodiac
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it could be the increase in difficutly your speaking of

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less buffers

mighty venture
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Just give me challenge ran 🗣️🗣️🗣️

halcyon topaz
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like atp anyone can clear 15-6 challenge as long as they:

  1. have a good shot caller and listen to callouts
  2. have good pathing
west zodiac
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but to much work

halcyon topaz
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myb og

mighty venture
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I wanna do harder jump rope and see ppl not know how to fast fall again

west zodiac
mighty venture
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🤣 that sounds fun

west zodiac
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up xing like your life depended on it

vestal nexus
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Will in game guide make the game better? Yes, of course.

How cost effective will it be? Low.

Is it realistic? Nope Shruge

soft jungleBOT
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screentear has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

west zodiac
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is it realistic no which is why it's just a suggestion and if it doesnt happen which it seems plenty of ppl have been for and against i do hope something comes outa this

vestal nexus
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L bozo

mighty venture
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Oops I can’t type

west zodiac
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happens to the best of us

vestal nexus
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I mean smthing did come out of this yeah and Raiden forwarded the thing

mighty venture
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I’m too old

west zodiac
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lmao atleast we hope

mighty venture
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All I can really say is they really need to explain skill tiers

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As that’s not really explained well and it comes up even now in endgame for example 21-3

vestal nexus
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I wish they change the skill trait especially “critical” trait 💀 and the other one that guarantee crit but reduce atk power to 80%

west zodiac
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if lets say the removed the p1 of berthe normal and replaced it with the cberthe version without the skill bans would you think that would be enough to justify removing the skill bans

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copy past

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with removal of a mech

mighty venture
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Cberthe version has even worse skill bans

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40 bars it bans every tier except actives

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Oh

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Nvm I know what u mean

soft jungleBOT
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zerato has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

mighty venture
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My bad

west zodiac
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all good

mighty venture
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I feel like that would be a huge diff spike tho

halcyon topaz
mighty venture
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But yeah they could… but then p2 still has bans and even p3

vestal nexus
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Skill ban is the most unfun thing ever and I hope they dont ever do that again

mighty venture
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True

west zodiac
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p2 isnt as cancer if you proc

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well depending on dps

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but even foj's can do it

mighty venture
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Just skip 4head

west zodiac
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or the +10 vos can

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without event

mighty venture
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Yeah lol

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Tho yeah making it have cberthe attacks for p1 even without bans feels like a massive diff spike

halcyon topaz
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meanwhile p1/2 are pty wide and rng

west zodiac
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or perhaps he gets one stack everytime he is idle but he hops on his backlegs using that same animation to like precast it while not receiving another stack of the debuff till he is on all 4 again

mighty venture
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I LOVE PLAYING ES AND PERMA 2 BAN

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I LOVE 15-6-2

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😭😭😭

west zodiac
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it would simplify the mech but i mean heck it'll lower the insta kill rate

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or make the stacks 3 instead of 5

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to justify the change?

halcyon topaz
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i think the best way to go about teaching new players to not instawipe in berthe raid is just to teach what skill tiers are

mighty venture
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I honestly think it would be fine if they explained the importance of skill tiers and whatnot

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And then continue discussion from there

west zodiac
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agreed

halcyon topaz
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like i think atp the list of things the game can/should teach the player as onboarding is

  1. skill tiers and their uses
  2. how different gear systems work
  3. potentially about the game being about skill spam
  4. at least briefly gloss over erp/pots/pty list/collection/syn
mighty venture
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I agree lol

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Would make everyone’s life easier

sleek flicker
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I d like to see in game tutorial for systems. Since it doesnt need resources and getting hit by 5 system at once is kinda confusing I agree.

still mica
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first of all the "buff" over time doesn't actually make you all that much stronger, players still take like a whooping 12~14 minutes ... solo

which is a lot of time you have to learn the content inside as you try to beat it.
secondly, I don't see what's wrong with players missing a mech and retrying, that's part of what makes you learn

Mistakes are the best teachers, because you'll for sure not want it to happen next attempt
but I have seen so many case in many games where when games handhold people, people actually feel a lot less inclined to actually learn because they'll just say "yeah the game'll do it for me"

sleek flicker
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And tbh I think everyone is tired atp. Because we re looping same thing

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We ll say, tutorial shouldn't be added for various reasons. You ll say it should be added for the reasons insert something

mighty venture
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Mistakes are there to teach you, it’s normal to make a mistake, hell I make mistakes sometimes too in raids. As long as you learn from them it’s chill

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Me after messing up prophecy TeeHee

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And dying

sleek flicker
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I and others ll never ever agree to add tutorial and salt ll always insist on adding. So this convo will go on for how long god knows

mighty venture
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Lesson learned to not do doom half asleep

still mica
sleek flicker
west zodiac
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it's a stalemate

mighty venture
sleek flicker
west zodiac
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one that's been said and done

sleek flicker
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Approved

west zodiac
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new topic

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please

halcyon topaz
mighty venture
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Not my first rodeo when it comes to mogging ppl in 21-4-1

sleek flicker
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I still couldn't clear 21-4

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I have another try tomorrow tho

mighty venture
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Gl

sleek flicker
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wavekawaii I hope I can get my first 100%

west zodiac
sleek flicker
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7

west zodiac
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ive seen it drop at 8 so GL to you

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speaking from exprience 21-4 is the gatekeep

sleek flicker
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Thx

mighty venture
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21-5 so easy

west zodiac
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least you dont gotta sit through 45-hour plus runs

mighty venture
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And boring

west zodiac
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for 21-5

mighty venture
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Thank god

west zodiac
mighty venture
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Nah I’ve been slacking

halcyon topaz
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i cleared week 2 and have dogma

mighty venture
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6 weeks behind cuz of IRL and a month of crap internet

halcyon topaz
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pre split was balls

mighty venture
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I’m more annoyed about not having a 2nd acc than not having dogma.

west zodiac
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luckily for me i dropped medal and book and pity'd bot peice

mighty venture
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I’m uninstalling

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I’ve dropped none

west zodiac
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wasnt day one cause i just assumed it was gonna be like abyss or serp where there might be attempt parties so didnt ask around nor do i go out in the community myself

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so i ended up being left behind as i wanted to do the raid

nimble zephyr
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Unfortunately we can never really get the true day 1 experience

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Cuz we get a lot of information from kr

west zodiac
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honestly god bless them on find the diff

mighty venture
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True day 1 sounds awful lol

west zodiac
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and how 21-4 works at all

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p2 wise

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imagine finding out about simon says day one

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getting wiped cause you assumed to f1

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40 mins in

halcyon topaz
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no but imagine

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how much testing they had to do for rocks

west zodiac
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oh god

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i assume they get hints from the Community manager or devs sometimes

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but if they do it off rip gods

halcyon topaz
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they also didnt have dng split when they got rocks so each time they were over 1h into the dng before they could even attempt it

proven dust
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as some pointed out, the main issue is communication: people don't listen or people don't answer. there is no way to remedy this.

so, me, personally, would like to have a guide because of this miscommunication error.

if ppl acted as they are supposed to, then no, a tutorial wouldn't be needed.

west zodiac
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challenge mode doom apoira is just per nerf apoira no changes

proven dust
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make raid runs viewable. it would be exactly like watching a video, but there would be some sense of community with in-game chat.

no this can be completely skipped, with voice channels in discord and such, though...

(And please make raid text last longer and a more prominent font...actually, that may solve most the mechanic issues)

sleek flicker
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Btw I wanna give one more suggestion. Please if u re gonna make guide events instead of doing it after raid is released for 6 years. Do it when raid os newly released

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Bcs doing abyss guide event this year was straight stupid. Raid is released god knows how long, a lot of veterans finished with it and some doesnt even bother doing it even for weekly abysstics.

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Instead of that do doom aporia guide event when it was released

proven dust
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wouldn't say newly released though, maybe after a month so the runners can have time to study the mechanics

halcyon topaz
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most of the rewards went to int ptys iirc?

sleek flicker
west zodiac
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ngl it was plain said the before ib changes most of the community couldnt enter

sleek flicker
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Still better than this abyss guide event I think

west zodiac
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D3 serp

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or D3 doom on release

halcyon topaz
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i was in the 2nd pty to clear d3 (current d2) in na and someone in pty made a guide but we never got anything for it

sleek flicker
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They can do the event after some months of release

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When regular clears becomes more frequent

west zodiac
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that would be now then

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instead of this event

sleek flicker
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For doom yes

west zodiac
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ok how about this help ppl clear get more pity progress for acc box?

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or exchange for T slots chips or that rng reset thing

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just in case your full acc

sleek flicker
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Idk about exact time, since I m not guide maker. So for details I believe people like yumi d give better perspective. I just believe if they ll do guide events anyway, it d be better to do it for newer raids where community is more focused on

halcyon topaz
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i think

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if it were up to me id make an event that has people create guides on raid release

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and then have community vote on which guides work best and then feature the top few on the website

sleek flicker
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I d vote on this one. @formal oxide I hope u forward this too bunnynod

halcyon topaz
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and then for being in the top few spots there can be rewards and/or just simple participation rewards but idk how you would enforce this while avoiding half baked submission

sleek flicker
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I think that much is for kog to find out

west zodiac
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yeah who's to say even if community voted it had all content they'd need to know fully but at that point they'd have a guide already lol

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just share it atp

nimble zephyr
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Like I personally did a lot of peer editing for the serp and doom guides when they were making it from kr runs

west orchid
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🔥

halcyon topaz
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💀

sleek flicker
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Bro nah

nimble zephyr
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I understand Korean so I helped the people who were making guides understand what mechs were and stuff

halcyon topaz
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yea i mean its not a perfect suggestion but its something to consider i guess unless theres something that im not seeing here that prevents it from being productive

west zodiac
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im, more afraid of it ending up like what they did for the art contests where the money wasnt worth the effort

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and they had that whole big stink about it

halcyon topaz
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it's definitely a possibility

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you could also just have a repeat of the serp guide event where day 1 we were like

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yea we'll make a guide its free kc

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then we never heard back again about the event

mighty venture
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:3

halcyon topaz
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i think the event at least had the right idea

mighty venture
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And the ppl who cleared way after us got all the KC

halcyon topaz
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even if the execution wasnt great

mighty venture
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And people who did d2 got some of the stuff too

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Even then throughout NA and INT iirc there was only 2 parties to clear the raid in d3 day 1 and neither of us got anything

sleek flicker
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skill issue tbh u should have pressed "send" better

mighty venture
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I was a great event on paper but the rewards were super lackluster even to the people who cleared 1st on the server they didn’t get anything not to mention us as well being the only 2 parties to clear day 1 lol

mighty venture
halcyon topaz
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my fault og

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my fault AND kog's fault

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🗣️ 🔥 🔥

mighty venture
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🗣️🔥

sleek flicker
halcyon topaz
mighty venture
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Me neither lol

sleek flicker
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tbh I believe they used the poll website

mighty venture
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Only 2 parties to clear day 1 got nothing so Shrug

halcyon topaz
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but i think an event like that could do well especially if they can feature the guides on their website or in this server or something

sleek flicker
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thats compilation of our suggestions in the end, so hope and pray we go like we always do

halcyon topaz
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theyd just have to find a way to incentivize players to make good guides too while keeping the rankings at least some semblance of fair

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which i realize is much easier said than done but one can hope ig

mighty venture
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I much prefer written guides so square

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Maybe next content do a contest for written and video both

nimble zephyr
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I also prefer written guides for raids too

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As for characters I think its prob best to ask veteran players how to play said class probably

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Kr also gatekeeps their class guides and stuff pretty hard

halcyon topaz
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Tbf i wouldnt write a guide for my class because theres a lot of case by case things i feel like people would misinterpret

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not like i even get asked that often

nimble zephyr
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Same

mighty venture
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I’m too lazy to make one so I just correct ppl if they say anything wrong because I’m lazy

jagged turtle
proven dust
nimble zephyr
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I mean

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Some of them are made for pvp specifically and have no reason to use in pve content

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And all we can say is that skill is useless so dont use it

halcyon topaz
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Theres p much always a 'best' way to play a class in each diff content

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Deviating from that just gets you called out for being a bad pilot tbh

nimble zephyr
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Like I'm always gonna tell people to never use binding circle in pve content

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Period

halcyon topaz
# proven dust make raid runs viewable. it would be exactly like watching a video, but there wo...

Also i can agree to the fact that raid runs being viewable might be beneficial but theyd have to be smth togglable in the first place like the entire pty would have to agree to it being publicly viewable and idk how kog would go about coding it

I can also def agree to the raid text issue. Its not just visibility either i mean sometimes the character flavour text popups give actual hints on the mechs but then they end up showing up after the mech starts anyway??? Which makes no sense. One example is in simon says in 21-4-1 the text hints you to press f1 only if your tower lights up but that shows up after like the second wave of simon says

mighty venture
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LOL yeah

halcyon topaz
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Also about the recorded raid runs, implementing it might cause more performance issues in raid + im not even sure how many people would agree to setting their runs as public

proven dust
halcyon topaz
nimble zephyr
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Honestly at that point it might just be better to record the runs and post it on YouTube or something

proven dust
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The point about performance issue? but the run can be a regular run

halcyon topaz
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No performance like

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Fps

nimble zephyr
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Doom is already super laggy rn

proven dust
proven dust
nimble zephyr
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Yea I have some runs with myself in doom raid uploaded by one of the static members

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On youtube

halcyon topaz
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The game just isnt super optimized rn and adding more to make it even less optimized is not something most people would wanna see

nimble zephyr
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Yea I alr struggle in doom due to performance issue

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If they can make it optimized and also make it happen it might be worth it

halcyon topaz
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But thats hoping for too much as theyve not really optimized in the past.... Idk too long

nimble zephyr
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surprisingly enough I think they did optimize it a few times

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it's just still bad

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lmao

halcyon topaz
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Did they?

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I feel like even if they do it gets counteracted by the stuff they add each patch

nimble zephyr
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yea I mean do you remember when rocks xigncode thing

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that did get patched eventually

halcyon topaz
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Like i feel like my fps just gets worse every patch

halcyon topaz
nimble zephyr
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@mighty venture did they ever fix that

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or do we not see it because the runs got quicker

mighty venture
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What thing

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@nimble zephyr

nimble zephyr
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the rocks checking xigncode

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every few frames or something

mighty venture
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Idk

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I think they did

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Because before change I wasn’t lagging as much lol

soft jungleBOT
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meeles has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

cunning jewel
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Breh how I get perma bad words

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Oh oopsie

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Like ppl who truly want to get to endgame are interested in and ask questions and push for it.

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Another friend also rejoined late and are running all endgame content.

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So imo for endgame content and having “access” to it, it’s important to stay hungry and drive for it. Not a lot of ppl r gonna accept you with open arms and that’s okay, we all start somewhere. I started with a hybrid party spending hours running 12-5 and failing. Sure u can you say I have experience for this + experience for that, but imo it builds on each other. Having experience in crosso helps gain experience in cberthe which helps gain experience in doom

mighty venture
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What is this guy talking about

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Type ****

halcyon topaz
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you get used to it

old nexus
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Unrelated to the tutorial stuff and about the event itself:

Idk it was just me but I found some of the wording confusing. I thought the weekly quests meant you had to be registered as a senpai and you had to play with a kouhai, but it seems entirely cp based instead (?). And I guess the senpai/kouhai stuff is only for the board ranking. But since it's worded like "senpais go play with your kouhais" it sounds like you have to be registered to do it.
Or am I still misunderstanding it (I can't do the 20m one and I haven't bothered to try the berthe raid one yet, I assume I can as long as I'm above 15m cp.)

I also wish there was a better way to assign the quests to people? Like maybe it only shows up on your account if you login to a character who has 20m (15m for berthe) cp?
Because I don't have 20m cp and I think it's annoying for the quests to show up on my account when I literally can't do them even if I wanted to.

halcyon topaz
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you can do the event quests without signing up as senpai/kouhai

old nexus
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Yeah ok I thought so, thanks. Then yeah I think it's confusing wording.

halcyon topaz
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i have not signed up for senpai event because the ranking rewards feel useless but at least the event quests are nice

cunning jewel
lavish meteor
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The 1 person per point per day rule is so annoying. Yes I know the goal is to prevent farming with the same 5 ppl over and over to egt points. But I think it should be more than one time per day. Cuz what happens is that if u want to farm points, u have to reject ppl that clearly needed help just because u cleared them before on the same day

halcyon topaz
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i think the point of the 1 point per day per person is to prevent you from farming 1 person over and over

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the idea is to carry multiple newbies through content

delicate isle
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Helping newbies is one thing out of the staff's hands, but the reward for being top 50, only 3 modules is pretty sad, not worth the stress to compete for points and the skill issue you suffer in raids from your teammates.
Make it 10 modules foe top 50, 15 for 10 - 4, 20 for 3rd place, 30 for 2nd and 40 for 1st place.
Those numbers sound crazy? Just as crazy as how bad the new atma stones are.

lavish meteor
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I got 3 Core Data backup modules from last period and man those disappear very quickly. I think the reward is good but 3 is too little dont u think?

mighty venture
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Way too little lol

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I can’t even be bothered to do it

proven dust
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someone made a thread that may solve the "tutorial" discussion:
#1062909054181183549 "Trial Raid option"
I think it could work with some kinda reward tweak

real pecan
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In my honest opinion of the senpai event:
Its a nice warming event that highly depends on the community on how smooth it tends to be. Your’re simply rewarded for helping lower geared players clear raids(and later dungeons), but a certain % of players(cant speak for everyone so can go by what i experience) just lower their combat power on purpose to clear content which negates the purpose of the event(excluding alts in this case since theyre usually lower cp).
A major flaw for me is really just the players strictions for the event. Im usually seeing party finders that demand people lower than 15million CP instead of just a gaunt. And the reason behind that is because of having a full party of 15m- players, leads to only requiring 1 gaunt to be done with the mission. In other words its mostly just “Youre here to give me rewards thats all”.
Abyss its harder to be as strict because of requiring to do 2 gaunts to finish the mission even with a full party of kouhais(2-3 kouhais, not 1)
This is usually what i see mostly but this doesnt apply to every player, only most from what i’ve noticed.
TLDR its a good event but highly depends on player contributions to make it not feel so awkward

As for the rewards of doing so(not including ranking rewards): I think its pretty solid, as it helps with players resources

The ranking rewards could be better as its= to 60m/1 full doom gaunt clear reward so its nothing special considering how little people could use that item currently

Obviously i could be wrong /misworded things cause im bad with wording but thats just my take of the event ThumbsUp